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>News
Agent Record | Yidhari
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205
Agent Record | Komano Manato
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172
Agent Record | Lucia
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818
Version 2.2 Special Program
https://youtu.be/-WZRmhZWcfU

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/QKJj_AUOMTY (EN)
https://youtu.be/B42cNUVgzWU (JP)
https://youtu.be/yVudzVUiBBQ (EN)
https://youtu.be/pqOJai2C7S0 (JP)
https://youtu.be/LENKDAuyIwc (EN)
https://youtu.be/67IxXAtJelE (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.2
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/159176
All-New Program 09/03 - 10/14
Floral Voyage Into the Unknown 09/03 - 10/13
Band of Brave Bangboo 09/05 - 10/13
Wish Bottle Adrift 09/05 - 09/29
Spotlight Showdown 09/13 - 09/29
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 09/18 - 09/23
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/24 - 10/14
Problem Soldier Boot Camp 09/24 - 10/09
Rhythm Rave 09/29 - 10/13
"En-Nah" Treasure Hunt 10/04 - 10/13
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/09 - 10/14

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ22OBOLSQUAD

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://interknot-network.com

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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Reminder: We are nooticing, and your shilling and trolling is obvious.
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I'm still very concerned about Wormano potentially worming Lucia and Yidhari
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1 season = 16 limited characters
We know 8 of them at this point
This leaves us with 8 'unannounced' limited banners
3 of them are idols + Zhao + Ye's sister
This means that there are 5 more possible limited chars. I'd say it's highly likely that Ye is one of them, which leaves us at 4.
Who are they?
Remember that one of them might be an S-rank alt of existing A-rank character.
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>>539193479
Komano loves you the most.
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>enter thread
>type "seed flopped"
>leave thread
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They need to start teasing the next void hunter and expand the hollow zero.
Otherwise we won't make it to the next anniversary.
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>>539193704
>>leave thread
You don't though
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>>539193512
Ew fugly
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>>539193704
>wake up
>dilate wound
>struggle to use restroom due to mangled genitals, make a mess of myself
>finish crying in mirror
>log into pc and post this
Yup, it's time to play Honkai Star Rail!
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>>539193430
Ok I can't prove that I'm not a jeet because I am a swarthy south-yuropeon creatura and posting hand probably wouldn't help my case, BUT I can easily prove that I'm not a freeloader
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>>539193742
>Otherwise we won't make it to the next anniversary.
we will make it no matter what
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>>539193696
Bullshit he loves me the most
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S rank male characters right now!!
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>>539193881
only after relaunch
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Obol Squad is the hottest faction and the hottest M6es
Prove me wrong
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>Yenless Yen Zero
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>>539193803
>poo-tao image
try not to shoot up any school kids before you rope okay?
don't forget to include all the posters here in your suicide manifesto
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>>539193512
I think the first sign that the game was dying was it losing it's anniversary to Wuwa

Seed flopping is just a continuation of the symptom
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>>539193516
Those things are awfully unaware and very proud of being part of "next superpower".
They simply can't understand that everyone hates India. Maybe some of the more internet savvy hide the fact and even pretend to not be a jeet.
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Anyone who seriously thinks ZZZ or wuwa for that matter is in any danger of EoS is a huge retard
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Sanby buffered biggerly
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>>539193927
I cant
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>wuwa zzz and genshin all flopping
yep it's over for chink gacha and that's a good thing
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>>539193704
>>539193803
>>539193932
KA
[-]
BOOOOOOOOOOM
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>run LV with Alice, Jane (trial) and Yuzuha
>get Alice and Yuzuha m2 resonia
I can see why this team is OP and I didn't even have Jane's. Pretty fun to play too. Shame Jane rerun will be on hold indefinitely now.
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>>539193932
i wish you were better at trolling, it'd make enduring your stink easier
You will never be a woman
i know who you are :)
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>>539194021
At least if Korean gacha take over it will actually be goon content. Not safe horny for tourists like ZZZ
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>>539194186
Korean gacha are trash
Goon content is cringe
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I think Koreans and Japanese are better than the Chinese and it's not even close.
Just look at what they produce.
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Funny thing about wuwa is that I only know it exists thanks to this thread
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>>539194232
Stinky Chinky
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can we have a BRS collab? it would unironically go really well with ZZZ's aesthetic
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Yi Xuan is a transgender man <3333
Sisters we have the best representation!
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I wanted to try Wuwa back during the anniversary event thing
Rolled on the beginner banner
Got the white lion fag
Grinded open world until I gathered enough resources to get Phoebe
Lost the 50/50 to ANOTHER white lion fag
Alt+F4 the game, uninstalled, never looked back
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>>539193928
Go eat your pasta that you store up for a week and your rice pudding instead of shitposting in zzz all day long!!!
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>>539194290
Need my schizowife
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We wouldn't be flopping if we had more males
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>>539194505
we need more transgender representation like Yi Xuan for us to come back, we need open dilation minigames and pride flags
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>>539194505
I know you're shitposting, but it's actually true
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>>539194403
You should be sleeping right now instead of shitposting all night on YYZ!!!
I'll be streaming Seedo's story after work same hour as yesterday!!
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We wouldn't be flopping if we had more male robots
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>>539194505
Flop this!
*unzips dick*
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>buffing Sanby
>not buffing regular Anby and S11 in the process
Lame.
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>>539194597
>S11
travesty
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>>539194557
i think we need FTM transgender robots if we really want to capture the right audience. the posters here cant be wrong!
winning!
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>Scamby Buff
I ALWAYS LOVE SANBY! I NEVER REGRET ROLLING HER AND HER ENGINE
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Hiiii~~~ fellow Yi Xuan lover here<3
I'm new here fellow sisters! Can I please get an invite to the discord :333 I want to own the chuds too!
Wuuuuuuuuu~~~ :33333
Trans rights are human rights!
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>BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW BUFF THE CHARACTER I PULLED SHE NEEDS TO BE MIYABI TIER IT'S NOT FAIR
Any dev who listens to this shit deserves to fail. This game is never going to be anything but mediocre. People will drop this when the upcoming gacha games release, unless they shit the bed of course.
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I'm trans
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>>539194863
Sanby was a rushed job and the devs know it.
Hell, enemies could knock her off her ulty animation.
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>>539194924
My only complaint about someone whose most used agent was Sanby for the ani is that her wipeout animations suck, she just keeps moving during them
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>>539195025
Noticed that too now that I've used her to farm disks. Her E pose isn't very good and it moves.
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>>539195025
Eh I think they are cool.
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one of these days they'll slip up and im doxxing the entire trannycord that crossposts here
patiently biding my time
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I'm trans and my favorite character is Chinatsu she's literally me :3
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>>539195153
It's very rare to get wipeuts that are not her dashes for me and those are kinda meh, she got some cool poses outside of that I'll give you that
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>>539195185
yes we know trannies hate lolis you don't have to remind us xister
go ack elsewhere
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Kekby officially redeemed, sniggas losted along with trigbrick
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>>539194556
ok, i will be up then and i am going to bed so see u soon!!!
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>>539195270
Trigga is part if the gang. Sniggers are alone crying in the corner.
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>xhe rolled seed
>instantly powercrept by Sanby
kek
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Sanby not telling S11 the truth after the reset is so stupid and wastes time. Especially now that shes works with Obol Squad on the side now. The only reason I can see them pointlessly stretching this out is for an eventually S11 focus with an alt.
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GOOD FOR YOU! GOOD FOR ME!
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>>539195439
uwaa she is literally me I hope she comes in 2.5
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>>539195270
>>539195378
>>539195397
I have all of them, not poor so it wasn't hard. I understand your position though, only making 10$ a month is pretty rough.
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Seedkek status?
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holy fuck thank you zzz gods
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Don't care about Sanby. Tired of these flashy speedster characters whose animations look the same.
>press one button and just teleports all over the stage with million slashes cutting the opponent and a million special effects that just cover the entire screen
Her a rank had such a nice flow and weight. What a fucking shame really
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>>539195563
Noice
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>>539195435
Tron Bonne is what Seee should have been. That stupid fucking scooter ruined everything
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Shifu... LOVE!!!
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Nobody rolled Seed aka the biggest flop banner so we welcome Sanby buffs.
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>>539195801
Omg she's literally trans like me! I'm so glad China is pro trans now! I can't wait to move there and be with my sisters!!
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>>539195725
That would have been tight. Imagine Seed having an animation where she opens the middle of the cockpit and fires a laser gun or something,
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Seed Sanby Trigger is now the premier electric team is that correct?
Where does Orpheus fit into any of this, her numbers are bad and fire/electric do not gel
Are they gonna hotfix the Sanby changes into second half of this patch or is Orphie just a meme character
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>>539195501
Nah, I can afford Seed. I just don't roll garbage designs and it also saves money, which I can then drink away
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2.X characters should just all flop. Not a single interesting character design wise and gameplay wise. Usual 2.0 versions are usually the patches in which the devs show some progress and introduce some cool ideas but it's like the reverse with this game
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>Butcher will be 160 million HP next patch, 50 million more HP than before
How can you faggots not see that this is a problem?
If your Yanagi could 30k butcher before, you might not even 20k this time.
And say goodbye to your A-Rank only clears, it's not happening lmao.
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I will run Seed on a rerun after enough cool mods have come out.
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>>539195602
Her A rank is definitely better but SS is still Anby.
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I think the only 2.x character I don't like much is jufufu
Everyone else looks cool or has near gameplay
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>>539195602
I do like how her and S11 have "similar but different", ryu/ken dynamic in their animations.
I can't make that little silver bitch work for the life of me though. She just seems so bad, at least with no ascensions.
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I already have a max limit lip gloss, which premium battle pass wengine should I get next?
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Fufu has grown on me
Her fan art is great and she is fun in Hollow Zero
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>>539196025
Not only does butcher not appear next patch but they are merfing the HP of ever DA boss
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>>539196025
I have never struggled to get 9 stars after I got it the first time.

I don't see the point of doomposting. If the game ever does turn into star rail, then I'll just quit. Your stupid posts have no impact whatsoever. Hopefully Chasing Kaleido Rider is out then.
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>>539195979
>Not a single interesting character design wise and gameplay wise.
I think Yuzuha, Alice and Manato are great
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Fufu >>>>>> Yi Xuan
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>>539196113
The support one
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The Big Problem is, that BetaMales Testers are already using old Units with the New Set. Alot of Casuals still have Nicole on Swing Jazz or Qingbot on Shockstar Disco.
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If my entire life was shitposting on a 4chan /vg/ general for a niche Chinese Gacha game I'd kill myself.
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>criticism is shitposting
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>>539196209
TY
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>>539196237
Nicole has new set? Im stil using swing jazz with her
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What's the qrd on Yixuan shitposting, why does it trigger the schizos?
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>>539196025
The problem is that you dont read all the fights conditions and think you can just bruteforce every fights with void hunters
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>>539196402
based retard
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What shitposting?
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>i will spam my criticism every thread a hundred times a day
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>>539196351
>shiticism is critposting
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>>539196490
I love my shifu's massive tits and ass
I don't care about her story tho
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Shifu is made for Wise to breed
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Shifu is made for Howl to breed
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Belle is for Howl to breed
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>>539196123
Good, good, the fufuganda is working.
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shifu please have sex with me...
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2.X characters likability ranking so far
Yuzuha > Orphie > Komano > Alice > Pan > Jufufu >>>>>> Yixuan > Seed
This is an undisputable fact.
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>>539197129
Where's Magus?
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>>539197172
Equal with Orphie
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>>539197129
For me it's seed>Orphie>Komano>Yuzu>Jufufu>Yi Xuan>Alice>panda
And I skipped both Alice and yuzu but I found them to be pretty good chars
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>>539197129
According to the polls Shifu is the most beloved 2.X character thoughbeit
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>>539197230
Yixuan won the Bugmen Choice Award.
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>>539197129
I think you like dick more than anything else faggot
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>>539197330
>Likability based on personality/dialogues
>He still can't stop thinking about dicks
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over
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>>539197330
Got him
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>>539197457
Yeah, he's fucked
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>>539197457
AAAAAH RED IS BAD
DOOOOOOOOOMED
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>red is actually... le good o_O
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>>539197457
I don't know what did we expect. They can't let A-rank clears to be a thing in the future. ZZZ is in its whale-milking phase, and making Komano good is antithetical to their philosophy of "forcing people to spend money"
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>>539197309
She is chinese and has massive tits so understandable. Astra is up there at fifth too. Vivian at 4th is only one who's placing I don't understand.
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[ZZZ 2.3Beta]
Vivian related story content has been removed.

>By the way, quest name is "Blue Sea, Fine Sand, and the Belated Summer.”

>Maybe miHoYo just deleted the story to cover things up,
after all, there wasn’t really any need to test it, right?
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>He's shaping up to be a solid A-rank
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Wu
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I've been playing since launch and the only unit I regret skipping is jane. I never play with quinyi but i don't regret pulling for her becasue she's waterkuma coded.
dick rollers were right.
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>>539197670
>great characters are at the top
Nothing weird about it
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>>539197781
Genshin and ZZZ are the "pull who you want" games because you can always just get the fuck out of the way when an enemy attacks. HSR is purely the "you will pull who we tell you to" game. BiS units that go in literally no other teams because they're dogshit anywhere else. Disgusts me.
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>>539197781
I wasn't playing when she first ran, but I regret not getting Jane on her rerun. I play Alice, Jane and Yuzuha in Lost Void and it's great fun.

Jane will likely not get a rerun for a long long time now because of how broken her m2 is in that team.
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>>539196909
keep it up
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>>539197457
Wait, that's it? That's what people were having a meltie over?

He's still fucking ahead of his v0 multipliers, you absolute retards.
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>>539197682
noooooooooooooooooooo
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Orpheus looks incredibly weak? even in a sanby team you would be better off with Seed as a quickswap with her huge multiplier nukes, electric weakness and +1000atk/30% cdmg
orphie ult has like 2000% multiplier for god sake
what other team does orpheus fit into?
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>>539197908
Yeah I'm pretty sure he's going to be a SOLID A-RANK and a VIABLE BUDGET OPTION, an A-RANK WITH AN S-RANK aura even!
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>>539197682
did you forget Yuzuha and Alice skins changes? it should be tested if it really exist
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>>539197997
He was already a solid A-Rank and viable budget option in v0, he's just not going to be getting any ez 60k clears now.
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>>539197908
This is absolute cope. He's nowhere as strong as the average S-rank now, which is proof ZZZ devs are trying to kill this game by making A-rank clears impossible in the future.
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>>539198175
Alternatively, they just don't want to waste resources on a faggot designed for people who don't even play this game anymore.
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>>539198235
>they just don't want to waste resources on a faggot designed for people who don't even play this game anymore
They've wasted money on seed, though?
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>>539198235
I mean, they already put the resources in. Plus he's still he main character of 2.3.

It's almost like you're retarded.
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>>539198235
No, that's not the alternative. After all the resources you're speaking of were already used up on his animations, voice lines, official art, etc. The only thing left is his numbers.
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>>539197682
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>>539196402
Yes.
If you play a Anomaly Team or a Seed Full Attacker Team with her, you see her 4-P Swing Jazz Buff (Chain Attack) every 2 weeks.
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Don't worry, Manatobros. Remember 300 voicelines, we can still cope with that.
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gay men and annoying women still won't get the hint that this game isn't for them btw
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>>539197570
Red is good in China, retardbro.
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>>539198443
Nobody knows who this game is for anymore
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>>539197781
You can play Green Jane Doe soon in Genshin.
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>>539198175
You can go look at his multipliers against Yidhari. He's got comparable numbers, especially when you factor in that he's typically a faster-paced character.

You are comparing him against other Rupture units and not Attack units, right?
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>>539198443
Yeah, the game is clearly for footfags since the devs are willing to pander to an audience that doesn't spend money.
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>>539197781
I regret pulling Chinki. This game hates stunners.
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>>539198537
It's for nobody now so that's the reason it's perma flopping.
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>>539198649
Oh, for sure he'll still be the strongest A-rank even after nerfs. But we need him to be as strong as possible to elevate/carry the rest of these A-rank bricks. Even now, content creators would film for HOURS AND HOURS with their M6 A-ranks... only to get 20030 score. If using Komano would only raise one of the clears to, for example, 22000, that is nowhere enough to deal with constant DA powercreep until 3.0.
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I regret skipping Sanby Lawrence
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>>539198878
"That full A rank clear doesn't count because they have disks"
t. someone in this thread
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>>539198443
They're the ones with money.
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So I just saw the upcoming SAnby buffs. I did not pull for Seed because I already have SAnby and also I did not like Seed's gameplay for some reason. Did I luck out with the SAnby buffs? I have her and Trigger.
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>>539198878
I always figured the point of playing A-Ranks was that you really liked a specific on-fielder like Corn or Piper, so you pushed them as hard as you could with an S-Rank Support or whatever. Like that guy who got 60k on Butcher with Corn/Astra/Trigger a week or two ago.
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Lucia design was a mistake
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>>539199089
and they can go spend it on cameraman fagslop
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>>539198878
If you don't pull any premium characters you are playing the gacha wrong.
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>>539199202
Everyone pulls S-ranks because you need to pull at all to get to M6 for the A-ranks in the first place, so you will INEVITABLY get one.
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>>539197949
BRO IM SO FUCKING DONE WITH OPRHIES IMAGINE MAKING A CHARACTER WHOSE ENTIRE MECHANIC IS YOU SHOULDNT BE FUCKING PLAYER HER AN ATTACKER
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I'm happy I skipped Sanby.
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>>539199189
Please tell me you don't actually want the MC pulling some Solo Leveling "aura farming" "hype moments" bullshit.
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>>539199342
Solo Leveling is gay Korean slop and "aura farming" is for niggers
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>>539199143
seed will be the better than orpheus for sanby so its weird? seed and sanby owners both wonnered
orpheus wanters are left scratching their heads especially with 10 more days to go
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>>539199179
>>539199202
A-Rank clears are more of a testament of how skill-based and F2P friendly a game is. The damning thing is that A-Rank clears in ZZZ still allow M6 to be used. I remember back in Genshin's first year people would only use free characters (no constellations) to clear Abyss 12. In fact, Enviosity became famous thanks to his F2P (free characters only) clears.
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>>539197949
Doesn't Orphie+Trigger mean that all your Aftershocks are ignoring 50% Defense?
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>>539198809
yea, she just wants too much field time in a game that times you.
ju fufu and trigger are the future of stunners being viable.
on the field briefly and does most of their stunning via aftershock. And thats if seed isn't the future of attackers and doesn't make them totally obsolete.
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>>539199415
Wouldn't the comparable clears be 14k in ZZZ, based upon reward payout? From what I recall, the Abyss required you to get maximum score in order to get the full payout of shinies.

Could be misremembering, though. It's been years since I touched Genshin.
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https://streamable.com/ec6gfb
mmm feet niggas
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>>539199616
Sure the rewards beyond 14k are non-premium currencies, but the entire point of F2P clears is to prove you're not locked out of all rewards and achievements in the game as a non-spender, no matter how insignificant they are.
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>>539199721
>click video
>hear japanese voices
>close video
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Rolled Seed on a whim because despite the shitposting she is fun to play in all these demos
Hopefully she is good with Sanby and Trigger all W0 because I don't have resources for weapons or Orphie
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>>539199809
But a F2P should be expected to have at least a handful of S-Ranks, shouldn't they? You get around a hundred rolls per patch or something.

I could understand if the metric was, like, 1 S-Rank and 2 A-Ranks per team or something.
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>>539199817
As a weeb I have to agree the JP audio is pretty mid. Rather KR or CN
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>>539200057
Both of those languages sound terrible, and Korean names especially are a fucking blight to hear. I swear, some of you would be going to bat for the fucking horrid throat noises of SEA just to feel special.
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>>539199995
*And not the currently-shilled S-Rank, I should add
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>>539199995
a patch is barely enough to get any on banner character if you lose the coinflip and standard agents are dogshit
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>>539199995
>hundred
>per patch
Yeah no, fuck off if you dont play the game
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>>539199995
No, because obtaining those S-ranks are RNG-based and limited-time banner based. The aim is to clear endgame content with the least amount of RNG possible, hence "free characters only" (in Genshin this used to mean Noelle, Anemo MC, Amber, Kaeya, Lisa, Xiangling, Barbara, and Aloy only). Some people were also aiming to go all-in C6 for specific future 5* character, hence why those F2P guides are so popular.
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I think now I understand why people who play Hoyo games fucking hate Hoyo
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>>539200146
Still preferable to the flat as fuck Japanese audio.
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(you) marrying _____
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yixuan
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>>539200404
Belle. It's legal in New Eridu.
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>>539200418
Teacher student relationship is banned in China
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>>539200404
lighter please put baby in my belly
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>>539199721
how below 1 minute? show damage numbers
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>>539200289
The average has been like 100-120 per patch.
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>>539200404
>>539200418
BASED
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>>539200496
Harumasa...
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>>539200547
Lol no
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>>539200404
Miss President.
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>>539200651
Alright, how many do you think we get average per patch, smart guy?
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>>539196157
Can you fucking read? It clearly shows a 160 million HP butcher there. And the "Nerf" is toning him down to 150 million which is still 40 million higher than the last one, instead of 50 million you absolute fucking moron.

>>539196169
I'm doing 110k-120k every DA, retardbro. The last of my worries is 9*. But a 50% increase on all board means that I'll lose 30k of my score from HP inflation alone.
Another one and I'll be at your level.
You would be already dead by then though.

>>539196445
>Bruteforcing with void hunters
That doesn't have anything to do with the discussion at hand, retardbro.
Your score will be decreased by at least 30% regardless of how well you play, void hunter or not.
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>we get this much per patch
>um, no, we get THIS much per patch
Do any of you retards know people actually go through the entire patch and tally up the rolls, or are you all just fucking with me this early in the morning?
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>>539200804
Before every patch there are usually autists who count out exactly how much poly and how many reels and boopons we're supposed to get in each patch, including events and shit. Some of them even put up infographics on social media.
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post zzz feet
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>>539200804
I think the guy who used to make income graphs for ZZZ already quit the game...
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>>539200920
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>>539200404
Soukaku
intense daily feeding
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>>539200534
ult left, ground smash right
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>>539197457
>Buff manato's numbers across the board
>Nerf his numbers below what they were pre-buff
Melty incoming
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>>539193682
>S-rank alt of existing A-rank character.
Billy. Big Daddy. 2 S-rank Vanquishers and 2 A-rank Vanquishers.
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Is this game negro coded?
the music clips sure looks like.
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>>539200920
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>>539197682
This is disappointing. I want to see Vivian's swimsuit.
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>>539201486
Yeah, it has a lot of jazz. Damn negro saxophones put the devil in my feet.
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>>539200651
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTiSx8OSyx-BZktnpT-fh_pQHjjkD8q3sp3Csy2aOI-8CV_QroqxzhhNjiCZNV4IdzhyK3xbipZn9WD/pubhtml#
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Absolute Seed death
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>>539199721
whats your seed's stats, skills ,etc
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Did Anby get any new moves, or did she just get her numbers tweaked?
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>>539201486
Yes, it has Jazz and Rock.
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My wife
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>>539201880
One new move, plus grouping on her BA3 and allies aftershocks now refund one stack every 5s. Also, her Ult and Chain attack do aftershock dmg.
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>>539201985
>grouping
That alone fixes her. The rest is just a bonus.
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>>539201880
It was mostly her mechanics getting improved rather than any number buffs
e.g. like how now when the targeted mob with mark stacks dies, it moves the marks to the nearest enemy now instead of being deleted
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>>539197457
That's grim. Glad Lucia and Yiddy are winning though
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If seed flopped despite being meta what's to say nu-lucia won't flop either?
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>>539202101
I hope she flops even harder.
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>>539202101
>seed
>meta
I will continue to use Astra.
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>>539200920
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Why haven't we introduced this li'l nigga to Excaliboo yet? Every knight needs a king to whom he pledges fealty.
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>>539202163
You're the only one saying this hagfag, but lucia is still shit because she bas obese thigs despite evoking hebe elf magician vibes
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I hope they remove sanby's stupid jump back sword throw move, that would be the biggest buff in my eyes. What a dumb animation to include for someone so reliant on staying in the enemy's face and fishing for dodge counters.
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You guys look at character kits before they release?
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>>539202274
I hope Seed and Lucia both flop.
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>>539202284
>jump back
>enemy moves an inch in any direction that isn't towards you
>follow up doesn't work and she jumps in place without moving at all
>forced to dodge out of the animation and manually chase the enemy
Such a shit move
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>>539202225
Slurp slurp
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>>539201669
Not reading that fake sheet of she
It
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>>539202274
I'm not a hagfag
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>>539200709
Im still not at the level i was before i rolled yuzua in 80 rolls.
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>>539202329
Yeah
>design/personality
>animations
>combat/kit
Anyone that checks off 2 out of the 3, I'm rolling.
Few exceptions where I like the design so much that the rest stops mattering
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>>539202571
Well ia asked for the kit specifically
I do look at design and animations but I never cared much for the gameplay aspect because I never had trouble clearing endgame
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>>539200404
Pulchra
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>>539202498
disgusting
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>>539202525
Are you actually doing dailies, events, and other content? Because 2.1 had like 110 rolls and 2.2 has maybe 90?
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>>539202719
Gameplay is a big thing for most. Clearing endgame has nothing to do with whether a character is fun to play or not, their kit is directly tied into it
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>>539202329
I only roll purely for kits if they do something very unique like Nilou in Genshin, hasn't happened in zzz so far
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>>539202225
Her feet must be stinky.
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>it was Soldier 11 all along
what the fuck, what A BITCH
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>>539195435
The amount of disrespect Soldier 11 recieves from her own teammates in favor of Anby is actually insulting. Even her own captain just rolls with it even though Anby is an outsider.
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>>539202498
I like Zhao but find the dog hideous due to her black muzzle.
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first time I've ever gotten this occurrence
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>>539202993
Agreed, I don't care how autistic you are, that's such a fucked up thing to do
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>>539202101
No feet shit, for starters, and the average player wont feel like they got cheated since they dont know about the nun, meanwhile Seed(Flora) was just shoved in, the teaser had everyone hyped for the robot not some autistic brat
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>>539200652
She is so cute
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big bro...
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>>539203046
I thought you got it automatically if you do a max disturbance run?
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how long will this mechtard's melty over seed last
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>>539203102
You'd have to be completely out of touch if you'd think out of all playable agents revealed there that robot Seed was the popular choice outside of a loud minority.
Know what game you're playing and what ZZZ's target demographic is
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I cried at Seed's character story ending
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>kill robot
>kill sales
MechGODS own you.
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Boo
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>>539203221
Most people prefer robots over feet, anon. Thinking everyone with an opposing viewpoint is actually just one guy is a symptom of paranoia.
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>>539203306
>what ZZZ's target demographic is
No one?
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>>539203019
She's retarded. This dumb bitch was messaging Seed pretending to be Big Seed for no fucking reason. She's a literal autistic retard.
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>>539203306
ZZZ's target demographic has been people who wanted an urban aesthetic and character designs that weren't like every other Hoyo gacha, which is why they advertised 1.0 with designs like Anby and Billy and Lycaon.
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>>539203363
We are getting new leaks next week right?
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How does it make you feel Lycaon is arguably the best written zzz?
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>>539203379
>>539203475
Overwhelming majority of male players that play this for cute girls, combat, and decent amount of fan service with a bunch of pandering.
Thinking otherwise is excused at launch, not a year into the game, that's called being retarded
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>>539203635
Men in this game are generally rather well written
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>>539203363
No Miss Zhao! I'll promise to minimize the child labor.
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>>539202019
I also forgot, but the stacks from a dying enemy now moves out to the nearest enemy.
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>>539203673
Post launch? Only Harumasa, who ended up thirsting over you all the same
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>>539203662
>male anime fans don't like giant robots
What kind of special needs take is this?
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>>539203673
>Men in this game are generally written like women
ftfy
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>>539202284
The worst part is it was added right before release, it wasnt in multiple beta phases
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>>539203306
He absolutely would've
>target demographic
Kek, as if the average man isnt more into cool robots than feet fetish
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>>539203794
If they don't make every male for (You), a certain demographic inevitably starts shrieking about cuckoldry with the female characters.
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>>539197513
Yuzuha!
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>>539203812
just browns, they hate everything that's not a generic bland anime girl
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>>539203306
>DOOD NOBODY WANTED THE ROBOT
>alienate bot pullers
>alienate fag dick pullers
>appeals to no one
>WOW WHAT HAPPENED
but this is why NEETs who don't spend money like you shouldn't be allowed to speak on anything other than what work camp you're being forced into.
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>>539203910
>trans filename
Go outside instead of samefagging for 16 hours a day
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>>539203812
>>539203910
>built up the majority of their playerbase around cute girls with decent fanservice, etc
>noooo why did they include a girl with my robot
You're not the target demographic and that's fine
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>>539203989
>nigga letting troons live in his head rent-free to the point he freaks out over a transformer
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>>539197682
base based BASED
total DOGSHIT death
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>>539204079
You spam a sub 100 ip thread for 16 hours a day for google play cards
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>>539197682
BIG day for the equine adjacent
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>>539203314
I love this sexy gremlin
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>>539203961
>alienate bot pullers
>alienate fag dick pullers
Good, you've alienated a loud minority for the sake of the majority that are playing this for cute girls
>appeals to no one
Clearly did >>539166578
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>>539199437
not exactly because the math doesn't work that way. 25% of the damage fully ignores the defense while the other 75% hits an enemy with 25% less defense
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>>539204157
Destroyed that freak
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>>539197682
Damn I don’t care for Vivian but this is pretty sloppy of them
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SEA hours really are when the general turns to shit, isn't it.
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>>539204052
>built up the majority of their playerbase around cute girls with decent fanservice
That's not what they did at all NEETykins but go off, you got nothing better to do lmao
>>539204157
stop, you'll make the faggot thirdie NEETjeet cry!
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>They gave Sanby a Zeus smite
Jesus fucking christ she is not coming out of beta like this
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>>539204263
I pray she does. I want Sanby to be super meta after everyone mocked her.
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Is Excaliboo strong?
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>>539204325
Cope bellion for your mary sue team
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>>539204261
>no argument
Keep crying and seething over cold hard facts. Everything post launch has primarily been nothing but different flavors of sexy cute girls that pander to you. They've long since decided what their main target demographic is
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>>539204263
She will faggot and i can't wait to LAUGH at you stupid faggot retards skipping her
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>>539199189
And they do. Why do you think they have so many players
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>>539204052
>You're not the target demographic and that's fine
Considering how much the game is flopping I'd wager there's no target demographic at this point
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>>539204325
A rank boos are all shit.
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>>539203673
Hugo is a mess.
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>>539204205
Anon, Defense Ignore and Defense Shred are treated the same mathematically and stack additively rather than multiplicatively.

It's not
>Defense = 1 x 0.75 x 0.75
It's
>Defense = 1 - 0.25 - 0.25

The only difference is whether the effect is on your agent or on the enemy. Penetration is what is counted multiplicatively with Defense Shred/Ignores which is why it has diminishing returns if those two are present.
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>>539204375
Got his ass
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>>539204406
>how much the game is flopping
>... according to headcanon and meme lists
>>539166578
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>>539202101
Seed is meta? Will she still be good past her shilling period?
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>>539204263
At this point I hope she keeps everything and more
So far I remember her being way stronger than miyabi in the first betas before release and that was with no trigger
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>>539204394
I didn't skip her though? I always at least get 30k with her in Electric weak DA's. But this is insane. Orphie was already good with her and now she's quite literally insane for Sanby
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>>539204479
that anon was sarcastic
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>>539204406
>trans filename
He spends so much time sitting at his computer like a fat neet and repost the same shit so often he’s afraid of “getting recognized”. And yet it happens anyways
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>>539204325
Excaliboo maxed out is like a damage substat worse than fully kitted Boolion. So yeah, he's great, especially if you don't want to pull for Boolion dupes.
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>>539204182
Sure does look like she's popular alright. Must really appeal to the game's core demographic.
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>>539203910
Reverse 1999 tried all sorts of quirky characters and they all earned less than the typical female banners. Not sure what your narrative is by reducing seed's whole character to just being barefooted?
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>>539204576
>filename
OH NO NO NO NO
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>>539204419
NTA but i think hugo had a good thing going until he got whitewashed into a goody two shoes that out-planned everyone, 1.7 was a shiwshpw for a lot of things and hugo being ruined story wise is one of them
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Why is he seething over filenames now?
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>>539204576
>please please pleaseeee ignore actual irrefutable, reliable sources like the one here >>539166578 and just trust my made up JP mobile list
Pathetic, sad and downright embarrassing
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>>539204605
If footshit isn't her only character why don't her fans talk about anything else?
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>>539204426
Ah that's good to know. I guess then my example only applies when the enemy buffs it's own defense mid fight like via miasma shields
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>>539204694
LMAO the resident schizo is vagueposting one now, the final step before scat spam
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I keep pulling for engines because my characters feel incomplete if they don't glow
I may be retarded
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>>539203454
And it was a mistake to have her be flanderized to this extent. The only way she can be redeemed is if all this memory loss is actually foreshadowing to a future plot where she's physically breaking down because of her cloning process, and Anby has to come save her for a second time since she's the only character left that knows about Project Silver. But I doubt the devs are that smart to come with something like that.
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Alright, I'll bite. Is there some new meme about filenames I'm not getting?
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>>539204770
It's ok anon
I'm the same
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>>539204694
>>539204795
Holy KWABOLA
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>>539204795
No, retard's new narrative is 4chang default filename is le bad.
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Just read Sanby's buffs, I won hard
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>>539204770
Nah, I also feel compelled to give every character I pull their signature engine. Not so much for the glow, but just because it feels right. I'm also F2P, but I only roll on the characters that appeal to me (which have thus far been 100% Fire element).
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>>539204874
All proud S-Anby owners won
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>>539204263
maybe it will just be on her lost void gear?
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>>539204795
I like how your terminally online tranny filenames get called out and the samefag spam about muh charts muh mech muh feet coincidentally stops

16 hours a day. Hundreds of posts a thread. One life wasted.
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>>539204605
The devs reduced her entire appeal to feet in the drip marketing and promotional trailer.
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>>539204263
whats a zeus smite
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>>539196157
seems like they got the memo and the creep will slow down.
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>>539203306
You are the type of retard that thinks ZZZ target demographic is the same as Nikke's or Snowbreak. You have fallen for the gooner game meme as well as some retarded fag in the hoyo managment.
ZZZ appeal was persona-like and early 2000s era anime. It is why Seed is flopping and why those two rejects in 2.3 will fail as well.
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>>539203989
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>539204052
Explain her selling less than Lighter then, smart ass. And its not just because they added a girl, they added a girl that is pure feet fetish shit, wich is niche, and her personality isnt even that likeable either. She was a fumble on all fronts
>>539204605
-This isnt R1999
-She is selling less than Lighter
-I'm not reducing her, almost all of her animations, even on trailers, are her shoving her feet on the screen, and her personality outside of that is just being a "I'm so quirky" retard. She is probably the most shallow character so far, hard carried by a tear jerking companion quest. Compare her to any other obol squad character and she doesnt even come close
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>DOGSHIT SKIN WAS NEVER REAL

HAHAHAHA...
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>>539204970
Nigga it's an actual buff, it's on her base kit
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>>539196157
Daily reminder they're going to buff all bosses' defense from 2.3 onward
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I took a break from this game for a bit but I was determined to come back for when Orphie releases because her design is so good. What teammates does she want so I can start looking into builds?

Also as a regular HSR player coming back and seeing a billion events is both overwhelming and humbling lmao
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>>539204996
Anon, I literally just downloaded that image from an OP that was up two days ago. The filename is unchanged from whatever it was uploaded as.

It's just a string of numbers. What are you chimping out about?
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Fine morning you faggots
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>>539204868
Hey while you’re samefagging here you’re not samefagging about jeetcharts

Terminally online bitch wasted his life in a sub 100 ip thread
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Yeah 2.3 will be even worse then 1.7 but then we will have void patch kino that will fund this game for another year.
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Oh no
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>>539205134
I don't think it'll work this time...
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>>539205127
It's not a fine morning because the leaks brought back the schizos
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>>539205117
>>539205041
See
>>539204996
This pathetic cuck unironically spends to much time sitting on his fat incel ass he’s “afraid” of getting recognized.

He’s going to die early as fuck due to suicide
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>>539205090
>What teammates does she want so I can start looking into builds?
Trigger and Sanby
SEED too I guess, but the "aftershock" part of her kit is wasted on SEED
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>>539205090
Orphie wants Silver Soldier Anby and M0W1 Trigger. Trigger is available now, Orphie is the next banner, and SSAnby should be available in 2.3 (next patch) if you don't already have her.
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>>539204874
Real question is do i pull Sneed engine for my Scamby?
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>>539205040
>You are [HEADCANON]
Not only thick as fuck but extremely retarded to boot. Cute sexy hot girls with decent fanservice, not on NIKKE level but fanservice regardless that goes along with good combat
You can keep coping all you want, majority of post launch agents have been exactly this
>muh flopping again
See >>539204704 and seethe more
>>539205041
You too >>539204704
Coping sad salescucks
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>>539205207
I thought the "faggots" was a clear enough sarcasm indicator
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>>539205279
Why wouldn't you just pull S-Anby's engine?
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>>539205041
>hurdur my trannoid filename meme charts
Nobody cares that’s why the threads are so slow nowadays. You can repost made up shit over and over again and you’ll never pass
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In order to secure Sanby, I will need to swipe. However, financially supporting this game during 2.3 is the worst thing a person who likes ZZZ could do. Thus, we (I) must top up during Orhpie's banner. Buy as many rolls as possible and save them for the characters you want in 2.3.
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>>539205279
No Sanby's is better
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>>539205228
If only those mihomo jews didn't remove Seed's aftershock, i'd be more than happy with the entire squad. (i pulled them all anyway)
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>>539197682
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
KYS DOGSHIT
DIE
DIE
WORST HOYO CHARACTER EVER MADE
FUCK YOU
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>>539205326
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>>539205305
The funny part is he’s in every hoyo thread this miserable cuck is not making it past two years
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>>539205079
Ellen's changes were different initially
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>>539205438
Based
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>Wake Up
>See Sanby buffs
>Synergizes even more with Orphie, on top of damage increases and QoL
Devs really waited 2 weeks to rugpull all the Seed pullers. Can't say I didn't see it coming though
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>>539205369
I haven't rolled since like 1.5 or 1.6 so I have plenty of stockpiled resources to get Orphie+Sig and Zhao+Sig without contributing anything to the Seed/Lucia/Yidhari banners.
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>2.3 is LE BAD because devs got bitch slapped hard and has to rapidly damage control to make the game better
damn brown turd shills are working overtime
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>>539205305
>not on NIKKE level
Seed is Nikke level fanservice.
Persona and Early 2000s era anime had plenty of cute girls which was their appeal. Which was the initial release in essence.
You are just too dumb to realize old era cute anime girl =/= 2020 era gacha slop
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>>539205279
Sanby's should be better on her and also more generically good
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Don't care
Skipping Orpee
Will roll the new Attacker that's designed to work with SEED
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I hope notLucia and jeethari flop
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>>539205497
Literally everyone who wasn't retarded saw it coming. Footniggers get what they deserve anyway.
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FUCK IT WAS SO CLOSE
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>>539205254
>>539205228
What really? I figured Orphie and Sanby wouldn't really work together since theyre both attackers.
I actually have Sanby and her signature weapon.

How worth it is Trigger to roll for if I have c6 Pulchra? She's who I've been using on my sanby team so far.
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salesposting can never be done in good faith unless you own shares in the company so treat every salespost as a shitpost and report
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>>539205541
>oh nooo a hot cute girl
All within their target demographic. If we suddenly got more fanservice the main ones crying, aside from the usual cucks like yourself, would be fujos, troons and faggots
Cute hot sexy girls for a primarily male dominated audience is what ZZZ's main demographic is
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>>539205497
What's the best move now if you got Seed? Get Orphie anyway?
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>>539205618
Lucia will probably do well purely on the basis of being the new meta Rupture Support.

I can't see Yidhari doing well, though. She has to compete against both Miyabi and Yixuan due to being Ice Rupture. Plus they're already giving you Manato on Lucia's banner.
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>>539205662
If this is for Lucia, you already won the substat grind for hp
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>>539205674
>off-field aftershock sub dps support won't work with now THE on-field aftershock dps
retard
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>>539205662
Those new disk are rotten, i still dont have a single set to upgrade any characters
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>>539205715
Pretty much. Otherwise you're just hoping the devs release another character exactly like Orphie but better
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>>539205674
>since theyre both attackers
Orphie was specifically designed as an off-field attacker to complement on-fielders like Sanby
>How worth it is Trigger to roll for if I have c6 Pulchra?
I don't know man, just realize that if you choose to pull Trigger you have to also pull for her ball because unlike most other signature w-engines there's a whole part of her kit locked behind it and she's basically no better than Pulchra if she doesn't have it
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>>539205715
>What's the best move now if you got Seed?
uninstall and rope obviously
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>>539205674
Orphie is an off-field sub-dps/buffer hybrid. She can be played as an on-field DPS, if you really want, but it's not really recommended.

Her whole thing is building up a heat meter while doing off-field aftershocks, then you swap her in to dump the heat on an empowered EX skill. Also she buffs the team with +ATK and lets everybody's Aftershocks ignore 25% Defense.
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>>539205854
this
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>>539205438
Mindbroken lol
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>>539205843
>2 (two) tails
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We need calcs on these Sanby changes. Sanby was only 20-25% worse than Seed before, so how does she compare now?
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>>539205809
I mean that has happened before, it just won't happen in a few months and Orphie is cute enough for me to roll as a "waste" because there aren't really any good alternatives to her anyway right?
Thank you.
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>>539205715
Yes and presumably the next attacker will also work with her

Seed is an indirect buff to other attack characters, people are obsessed with treating her like a carry even though she HAS to be ran with another attacker
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>>539205942
What makes youy think the other one is a tail and not a giant butt plug?
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Is sanby, Seed, ju fufu a viable team?
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>>539205891
That schizo lives and breathes Vivian, mindbroken and rentfree ever since 1.6 and won't stop till Eos and beyond
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>>539205805
skill issue
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>>539205041
Are you a footfag in denial or what
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>>539205731
>>539205662
400 Shy assuming no engine and 3 Hp% disc drives. Any disc with hp% at all would take you over the edge though (even if there are no rolls into it)
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>>539205951
Sanby wonnered bigly, but it's difficult to tell exactly how much until someone puts out a showcase of her with Orphie/Trigger.

Expect Seed's sales revenue to tank even harder now than it already was, now that people will realize Seed was a rugpull designed to bait footfags.
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>>539205994
What makes you think it's not just a dogshit AIslop picture that needs fixing?
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I just hope my 4 -ost Komano team will score 45k on Pompey mane
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>>539205706
>Cute hot sexy girls
When they try so hard to make Seed sexy it stops me thinking of her as character. It's so cynical and obvious that I can't even imagine how goon brained you have to be to find it appealing. It's pathetic.
Grace or Rina were 1000 times more arousing than this fucking mistake of a design. Anyone who isn't sexless Neet with no money understand it.
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>>539205989
People treat her like a carry because her kit is designed to be a carry. Playing Seed as an Off-fielder who just comes in to EX and Downfall is terrible because you naturally get less Downfalls if you aren't playing Seed on-field. No attacker wants Seed in their team but Seed wants every attacker in hers
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>>539194756
They did say that other obol members are "honing their talents"
So they might buff S11, or release her limited alt soon(tm)
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>>539205951
I dont think solo data changed much. Its more about her synergies with orphie that boost her. The spreadsheet must be done with an orphie partner and a neutral third to be sure.
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>>539205985
It only really happened to Burnice. There hasn't been another case of someone just entirely powercreeping someone's niche yet
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>>539206161
fuck off with this reoccurring training shit, I just wish these flops go away already
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I dont like how oprhie feels to play, but I think seed feels really fun to play.
My question is why did harumasa and Sanby feel like shit to play, but Seed and Orphie and Hugo feel much better to play?
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>Y-YOU DINT GET IT, SEED IS TOTALLLY SUPER POPULAR, ALL EVIDENCE OF THE CONTRARY IS JUST FAKE AND IF YOU DONT LIKE HER YOU A TRANNY
Yeah, I officially feel no sympathy for Seedfags. Keep on smelling your own farts while she crash and burns
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>>539206003
Id rather keep my 50/50 success luck than getting crummy disk luck. Disk dont have a 20 days life duration
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>>539206020
she needs 22k now
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>>539206261
They don't feel like shit to play, you just don't like them because they're difficult to play while Seed, Orphie, and Hugo are easy
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>>539205041
>unironically comparing sales from a 1.3 banner to a 2.2 banner without taking player decline and fatigue into account

are you retarded?
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>>539206092
You're not the target demographic.
Cute hot sexy girls includes all kinds of different flavors. You seething and crying over it constantly means fuck all to them as they've successfully done what they set out to do.
Next girl will be a different kind of cute hot sexy, we go from hags to hebes to lolis to Zhao, etc.
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>>539206287
don't use my wife to shitpost, you fag!
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Remember when the Burnice song went viral and Burnicefags though she would sell well?
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>>539206290
Cope, the new support set is bullshit and won't be powercrept until mid version 3 at least
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>>539194756
>Scamby
Fucking right, I've literally never felt so fucking cheated in gacha before. It's the only time I felt like mihoyo actually robbed me, even losing the 50/50 and getting kot feels better than realize you just pulled for a fucking brick, no other character has made me feel so bad afterwards.
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>>539206338
Ok, compare her to Alice then
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SEED FUCKING FLOPPED
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>>539206287
I struggle to imagine Seed having even half this many defenders if she wasn't footbait, yet none of them want to admit that it's her only appeal.
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>>539206416
And that's a good thing!
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>>539206338
Why other banners don't have this then, shill and follow the usual patterns? Seed sold like trash because she's trash, simple as
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Seed flopped so hard on my cock and no she won't leave me, HELP!!!!
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>>539206332
So that's it. does ZZZ have a in game diffculty rating like other games so I can know in advanced?
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>>539206374
There is no shitpost
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>doomjeets watching from their chair as they desperately try to stop people from liking things they don't like
The ultimate cucks
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>>539205826
Okay hear me out. Which of these teams do you think will do better?

>Orphie
>Sanby
>Pulchra

>Orphie
>Sanby
>Astra Yao

>Orphie
>Sanby
>Trigger (forma de no exclusive w engine)
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>>539206261
>Harumasa, Sanby
High skill floor
>Seed, Orphie, Hugo
Low skill floor

It's really just a matter of mechanical complexity. Some people like it, some don't.
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Do you guys use any auto daily check-in extension?
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>>539206495
No you pretty much just have to try characters out or watch videos on them
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>>539206382
I remember burnice disks set to work on 2 elements but then they never released anybody else that could use it. Same with caesar disks
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>>539206516
Use seed, orhpie and seed exist to buff sanby.
>>539206581
no I forget to do it. link it.
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>>539206516
Orphie, Sanby, Trigger
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>>539206292
It does? I only saw that the buff increase starts counting after 10k instead of 9k
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>>539206587
>burnice disks set to work on 2 elements
Yanagi
>caesar disks
Seth
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>>539206347
>as they've successfully done what they set out to do
They sure did succeed
>void hunter level of expectations

>You're not the target demographic.
I think soon no one will be if this is your response to any criticism of the game.
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>>539206261
Sanby feels bad because of the beta changes, they basically remade the character 2 weeks before launch and she launched bugged. Now they're gonna buff her and resell her.

Seed feels good to play because shes a modern character with lots of iframes, her only problem is they fucked her by removing her aftershock synergy with the rest of Obol Squad and reducing her personal AND team damage so she doesn't buff benchwarming attack agents like NEGROMATA into usable attack agents. Other than that her only "problem" is a long ass animation on her ult (that used to be cancelable but they also removed that).
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>>539206587
Technically it worked on Mibibi slave Nagger, but yeah.
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>>539206520
>Harumasa
>high skill floor
Don't you have to just EX + charged attack + auto-attack chain?
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>>539206338
>comparing a first-half female banner with massive shill campaign against a second-half male banner placed immediately before the first Void Hunter
>and the male banner still wins
Alice also managed 400 as a second-half banner while Seed will struggle to hit 200.
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>>539206587
I use it on Yanagi
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>>539206516
Technically trigger but iirc m6 pulchra is really close especially without the weapon
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>>539206587
>I remember burnice disks set to work on 2 elements but then they never released anybody else that could use it
Chaos Jazz?
It's the best set for Yanagi.
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>>539206681
>back to the flopping argument
I'm here to help retarded cucks with dementia like you >>539204704
>I think soon no one will be the target demographic if they keep releasing cute hot sexy girls like they've done post launch
Not even trying
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>>539206697
That's his bare minimum. You can easily optimize more dashes than that but it requires you to really understand his kit and play on manual
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seed flopped.
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>>539206516
Orphie, Sanby, Trigger now that we have confirmation of the Sanby buffs. Though if you don't have Trigger's engine, it's conceivable that Astra could be a bit better.

Seed is a rugpull meant to drain footfags of their money. Turns out they don't have much.
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>>539206697
NTA but harumasa has an on field gimmick which enhances his attacker or something. But unlike every other unit with a gimmick he doesn't have a secondary bar tracking it. Or didn't on release, I don't play him any longer.
So you had to do all the calculation of his prism? Or prisons in your head.
Like imagine if instead of oprhie having a heat gauge tellling you when to lazer, she dropped mines on the field with no number tracker, and you had to pay attention to how many mines were on the field by looking around or counting her rotations.
I'd say that raises his skill floor.
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>>539206287
don't be mean it could happen to your most anticipated character
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>>539206681
>void hunter level of expectations
Funny how shitposters keep repeating this even thought original quote was different
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>>539206841
HSR is primary mobile game, what even dogshit cope is this. People who say Seed flopped compare her performance against other ZZZ patches, because partial data can be useful to see trends. Direct comparison between games with that set of data doesn't really make sense.
But sure, I'm gonna let you cope. Seed is selling amazing and everyone loves her
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>>539206684
Seed's biggest nerf was making her buff only work on active agents, so now it doesn't work on aftershock attacks. So she's in this weird position where Orphie is good for her, but both of them kinda don't have that much synergy
I'm sure they'll add a "this character is considered on-field when using aftershock attacks"
(or any new bullshit just for this)
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Jeets on full force today
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>>539207005
Seed was mentioned alongside Miaybi and Yixuan as characters that had extremely high levels of expectations. It's not a direct quote, it's paraphrasing.
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>>539206937
you don't have confirmation of anything until it hits live. These fuckers love to rugpull and they will rugpull AGAIN.
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>>539207005
Of course they would. The original quote related to animations, etc. Seed is very different from their regular cast
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>>539206292
>>539206647
Yeah you're right. Actually makes it much easier
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>>539207080
No it was about how to make them work in combat
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I never really noticed that bot Anbys cover their necks
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what does seed mean when she says wise is like her? is she calling him autistic? when she said he no longer was like her does she mean he was becoming a fucking normie?
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>>539207264
Just finish the quest
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How did Seed mindbreak these indians so bad?
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>>539207209
Yeah because I give them hickies.
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>>539207264
He's an artificial human
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>>539207068
>more cope
>more of "please don't trust irrefutable, non headcanon lists on pc and PS"
Shocking
>no argument to defend the most brain-dead regarding target demographic
Truly the most pathetic cuck, keep up the verbal diarrhoea and hope anything sticks, get called out for it? Quickly move back to salesfagging with meme lists
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>>539207297
>click the go button
KEK
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>>539207309
I know, footslop was destined to fail. It's embarrassing for them to be this humiliated, should've known not to cross mechLORDS.
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>now below granblu a 10 year old gacha
how lower can this banner get holy shit
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>>539207068
I don't recall any other character's fans throwing as big a tantrum as Seed fans about numbers. Lighter, Trigger, Hugo, and Ju Fufu all had relatively low revenue, yet they didn't have such a vocal minority screeching that actually they were actually popular and selling like hotcakes.

It's okay to like an unpopular character, just admit they're unpopular. Why's that so hard to accept?
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>>539207371
cope
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>>539207502
Not low enough
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>>539206629
I use the LaQoos extension for hsr and zzz. Now it seems to be working for me. https://www.laqoos.com/en-US
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>>539207517
You're a literal punching bag now that can't back up any of your brain damaged, dogshit cuck takes. Cope, seethe and cry
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from Anton's equal to Sanby and SEED' rival

How high will your ceiling go?
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>>539207502
>seedfags will say this is a good thing, actually
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>>539207502
EOS toomorrow sisters!
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>>539207586
you seem angry
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>>539207640
zzz's EOS is scheduled for 2 more weeks
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>>539207502
Grub has the power of weekly scamchas though.
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>>539207505
I'm a Ligher fan and I love joking about THE UNDEFEATED CHAMPION OF FLOPS
It seems like my bro is goint to lose his red scarf soon, though...
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>>539207640
Even Seed's awful banner will still make the team a little money, but I'd hope the devs will realize now that you should never pander to footfags.
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>>539207668
Not at all, I'm not the one here getting btfo every reply without any way of backing up literally any takes when getting called out
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>>539207264
>what does seed mean when she says wise is like her?
stinky asocial neet
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>>539207735
I'd rather hope the devs realize they should never pander at all
I miss girls like Pulchra or Nicole
Hell, even Anby is too autistic to be for (You) and she's all the cuter for it
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>>539205715
She's going to be perfect for S rank S11 variant
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>>539207609
Damn. I should really get around to building my Harumasa.
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>>539207505
I think it's because it proves to some that ZZZ being gooner game was just a meme. Seed can't lose to a male, males are mistake and don't sell, how come our new shiny fetish character is losing to biggest flop of this game. It's exposing them as lowest of lows, especially after Manato debacle.
Fact they keep saying stuff like
>robot wouldn't sell on it's own
>you are not target demographic
They are just exposed
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>>539207908
I know you mean limited agent, but S11 is already s-rank lmao
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>>539207869
>Anby is too autistic to be for (You)
Her interactions are surprisingly wholesome and hearwarming, I'd dare to say that she's for (you) in a good way
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>>539207869
At this point it would be a big shock if a new playable female agent wouldn't salivate over the MCs the moment she meets them.
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>>539207542
Thank you anon.
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>>539207869
True, I'd much rather they make characters rather than panderbait. Pulchra's one of my favorites personality-wise because she actually acts like someone who has crippling trust issues.
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>>539207502
Seed is a gamechanger for ZZZ.
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>>539208005
I actually really like Magus for that reason. Hope she doesn't lose her edge too much in her Trusts.
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So, given Flora's abject failure how hard will the overcorrection be, are we looking at another year of the cock like with Genshin?

SX0KH
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>>539208005
Didn't we already get this in Vivian? Unless you mean more of the "first sight" trope
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>>539208091
Considering devs kneecapped their game because people screamed at them due to TVs. Yeah, they will overcorrect in the most retarded way possible.
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>>539199143
>Seed is stronger than Silver around 15%
>Silver buffs are around 12%
>Seed+Silver and Seed+Orphie are equal or similar in score
>Sanby buffed around 12% so Orphie isnt Bis anymore

They reallt should buff Orpheus. Shes insanely Underwhelming
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>>539208091
I am kinda sad that flora was such a flop according to those gambling online chartsi found her to have the most beautiful agent story and in general character arc in the entire game and I feel like people just skip because she is nowhere near meta
It's always the same with hoyo players
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>>539208105
Vivian started this trope and it is continuing since.
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>>539207929
ZZZ never was a gooner game and people better hope it never becomes one because a high budget triple A game can’t survive on gooner money alone.
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>>539207957
No I meant S rank because S11 is so shit she barely deserves to be called one desu
t. m3w3 coinflip lossGOD
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So is Orphie a brick are not? Should I be pulling for her or SNEED if I want to buff my Sanby/Trigger team?
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>>539207609
It's still insane to me that even Harumasa, a charcter perfectly made for burst style gameplay, goes for Trigger instead of Qingyi.
Yet some will still try to argue that the later is fine as is.
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>>539208209
I don't think it's just the lack of meta potential, anon. There are a lot of things about Seed that make her polarizing as a character.
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>>539208091
The worst timeline is if the lesson they take away to make garbage like Damian and glasses chinaman S ranks. Bring out S Billy you stupid chink fucks.

>>539208209
She's a flop because she literally killed the cool robot people actually wanted.
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I couldn't care less about feet but I love Seed. Her design is the best. I love how clean she looks, her beautiful face and tight butt. Seed love!
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>>539207869
>>539208045
So true sisters, pandering is icky, game should be more tasteful!
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>>539208187
>Orphie isn't Bis anymore
On what world do you think Orphie isn't BiS for Seed or Sanby
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Sanby doesn't deserve buffs over other agents like Caesar
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>>539208239
>ZZZ never was a gooner game
>hope it never becomes one because a high budget triple A
>can’t survive on gooner money alone
....ok
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>>539208372
Yes, game should be more tasteful. Give me more Rina and qingyi
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I hate how the blatant, forcefully shoved (You) pandering ruined Trigger as a character
What the fuck were they thinking?
Ok the stalking meme is mildly amusing but it should have remained this, a meme, with Trigger obsessing over you being implied by her stalking rather than her saying outright "omg proxy you're the most important person for me in the world please come and sleep on my lap"
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>>539208304
>if I want to buff my Sanby/Trigger team?
Definitely Orphie over Seed.
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>>539208091
They literally just have to give us proper ZZZ designs and bring back teams people actually like while introducing new ones and most of this shit game's problems are solved. Introducing a new team every patch, having them dump their baggage on you immediately, and then dropping them completely in the next patch is just insane and the opposite of what you want to do in a game that lives off of player engagement.
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>>539208304
Orphie will be significantly better for a Sanby/Trigger team than Seed, because she will make all the team's Aftershocks ignore 25% Defense and still do her full damage while letting Sanby hog all the field time to maximize DPS.
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>>539208415
Make Caesar shield apply to the whole party and make her be able to party off field without switching to her
There, fixed
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>>539208304
We always knew Seed/ S-Anby / Trigger was stronger than S-Anby / Trigger / Orphie. It looks like the buffs aren't going to change that dynamic too much although I would wait for showcases and testers to try it out before seeing if the comp isn't about equal.

If you want to play only S-Anby, get S-Anby. If you want to play Seed and have S-Anby make an appearance, get Seed.
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>>539208304
Metafags and math theory crafters on her are incredible lukewarm, Shes a niche character but doesnt do a great if a job like Ligther, Seed+Silver is currently the bis. Which leave orphie homeless
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>>539207735
>retard thinks feet caused that
Kek
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Holy fuck the humanoid Isolde fight is ass cancer, yes please i definately don't want to understand what the fuck is going on because the camera has adhd and the boss fights like a parody of elden ring bosses
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I don’t care about Seed flopping, I am just happy that footfags got sharted on
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>>539208341
Qingyi is probably the 1.x character in most need of a rework aside from Caesar. Fuck all the whinny babies crying about Jane of all people needing a buff.
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Grace: Anon, I read your list of requirements for a GF and I check every single box! <3 So you HAVE to date me! <3

Anon: Oh, really? So you have really smelly feet and armpits?

Grace: EHHHHH?! N-No, of course not! I-I-I guess I missed that part! B-But I have everything else, so sh-shut up! (Whispering) They're super smelly but don't let everyone know you baka jerk!!
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>>539208372
Yeah, I want more characters like Jane and Ellen and Nicole.
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>>539208525
>get S-Anby
I mean Orphie
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>>539208605
Based
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>>539208605
Is this sincere, ironic or post-ironic ? I cant even tell anymore
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>>539208372
I want my games to not give me second-hand embarassment
So far the only thing that can compare with ZZZ's pandering cringiness in the "gratuitous wish-fulfilment" meta is this piece of trash
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>>539208394
Did you read my post anon? Seed+Silver is the best parther for each other
Let me explain it to you like you are 5.
Wanna improve your seed?
>Pair her with Silver
Wanna improve your Silver?
>Pair her with Seed

Hopefully you get it now.
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>>539208605
Thanks, this just ruined my day.
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>>539208273
>because S11 is so shit she barely deserves to be called one
Skill issue. Harin's great.
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>>539208470
The stalking bit was fun as long mentions of it were kept off-hand and oblique, so that you'd only realize the implications of what she was saying after the conversation had already moved on.
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>>539208186
This is so fucking funny tho. All those Genshin/HSR CCs trying to protect their ad revenue bags on youtube and twitch with videos like : game is too easy, game is too hard, i can play blindfolded, thanatos is unkillable, gooner game, i hate tv's...
Instead of trusting their process and making corrections they went full overreaction.
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>>539208583
Just target lock the camera?
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Wtf is that HP inflation in the current DA? Are the devs trying to nuke their casual playerbase?
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>>539208470
>gets her face fucked by radiation and loses her entire support system
>Phaethon comes along and helps her out of the emotional ditch she's been lying in
>wants to be a guardian angel to ensure she never loses people she cares about again
>this comes off as being a goofy stalker, which is both funny and cute
>"OMG WHY DOES SHE LIKE PHAETHON SO MUCH THIS IS STUPID"
There's plenty of agents who suck your dick for no good reason, but Trigger isn't one of them.
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>>539208820
they never left
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wew boy he's really shitting up another thread huh?
the obsession with feet is getting weird, you think when we get the pits agent he's gonna talk about armpits all day? it would be funny
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>>539208775
Except if you want to improve Sanby you pair her with Orphie. That's like me saying If you want to improve Astra then stick her with Miyabi over Ellen
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>>539208820
casuals don't do DA in the first place
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>>539208605
this but unironically
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>>539208820
Casuals ignore DA and SD.
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>>539208554
A lot of things caused Seed to underperform. Foot faggotry was just the most visible and repugnant factor.
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>>539208495
But Orphies def shred only apllies to her own Aftershock anon. Thats why shes so weak as an attacker support
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>>539208820
>always consistently get 25k-30k first try without doing anything sweaty
>my entire roster is C0W0
>100% F2P as well
I think you might have a skill issue. I went into Defiler totally blind and still got a 28k score on my first try with Sanby/Trigger/Astra.
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>>539208820
>HP inflation
Nontraversy that CCs made up to stay relevant. They do this all the time
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>>539208893
Even vtuber girls do DA bro, and get 9 stars.
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>>539208963
I'm going to attack support that ass god dam
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>Every single agent needs to pander to only me or I'm going to spend 18 hours a day complaining about it on the 4chan /vg/ general.
I think 60% of this thread is hidden for me.
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>>539208963
No?
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>>539208963
Anon, think about this carefully. Which agent buffs aftershock? Hint, she's an autist that loves burgers and sings her own theme song.
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>>539208820
I gotta be honest anon, i've been asking for harder content every survey, my fault, i'll tell them to hit the brakes.
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>>539208760
I keep seeing this series used as an example of the worst otaku tropes and decided to read its Wikipedia summary and it’s absolutely hilarious. Legit reads like it was written by a 12 year old.
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>>539208605
Based
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>>539207502
>>539208590
Reminder they said seed would be at the level of miyabi
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>>539208605
Wrong characterization aside Grace really is just better than Flora in every way. I already have a smelly mecha autist that's sexier. Why would I want a retard robot killer?
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>>539208760
>zoomer tourist knows only one power fantasy
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>>539208502
>party off field without switching to her
How would that even work/be balanced? It's too OP.
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>>539208871
Are you saying people shouldn't talk about feet during the foot fetish agent's banner?
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>>539208881
>Seed is a bigger increase than Orphie is on Silver.

How is that hard to understand?
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>>539209142
she's the "miyabi level" of flop alright
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>>539208820
>western CCs
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>>539208605
Chinatsu: Anon, I read your list of requirements for a GF and I check every single box! <3 So you HAVE to date me! <3

Anon: Oh, really? So you have a really smelly vagina and fake breasts?

Chinatsu: EHHHHH?! N-No, of course not! I-I-I guess I missed that part! B-But I have everything else, so sh-shut up! (Whispering) My neovagina is super smelly but don't let everyone know you baka jerk!!
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>>539209197
hes trolling you baka
he's just shitposting to try and downplay seed more, it's thinly veiled thing = bad
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>>539209152
Grace is old and has a swollen roast beef down there.
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>>539209301
grown ass man typed this btw
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>>539208963
Please read pic related.
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>>539209197
Because it's not. Sanby does not do more damage with Seed than Orphie thus Seed is not better than Orphie on Sanby teams
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>>539208495
>still do her full damage while letting Sanby hog all the field time to maximize DPS.
The thing is, this doesn’t really work like how you think it does. The reason why sanby wants field time is so she can build and spend marks. With SEED on the team, SEED gives battery to off field Sanby which increases her EX output. It mostly evens out, because seed does more damage than Orphie. Orphie however is fire, which is pretty much the worst element to combine with electric at the moment unless they rework mech resistances.
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>>539209152
buffs when?
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>>539209181
Well she is THE KING OF DEFENDERS
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>>539208881
>If you want to improve Astra then stick her with Miyabi over Ellen
NTA, but I think a better comparison would be saying put Jane with Alice/ Yuzuha. The core of team is Alice where Jane is really there just to support but if you care about Jane's field time and want to play her more, that might not be the best team for you
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>>539209301
using words like neovagina just lets everyone else know you're mentaly ill anon, you're on the same boat as the troons.
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>>539209191
watch this disingenous troll
[-]
deleted you lol
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How real is the doomposting for ZZZ anyway? The shame shit happens for Genshin and HSR but I know both of those are doing well. Im not sure for this game though, I know its doing worse than the other hoyo gachas but by how much?
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>>539209470
nice cope
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>>539209374
Have you not seen runs? You onfield Sanby and Seed becomes ur Sub dps. Main downside to this team is that you need Astra for the QA. Its a hard team tho being 2nd to mono ice.
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>>539209161
Fuck you
You can make a power fantasy and still have a mildly amusing, self-conscious story
That's not Solo Leveling
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>>539209081
Why is she so smug?
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>whole thread is retarded take after retarded take
damn im going back to .moe
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I like Sneed more than Orphie.
Skipping Orph and pulled Seed + Engine already.
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Not giving them attention is the best thing you can do. Filtering their posts and hiding them takes control of the situation and clears your mind.
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>>539209549
Seed cannot be a sub dps. You are better off replacing her with any other support if you do this because you are severly gimping Seed's damage. Why do think everyone plays Seed on-field 99% of the time?
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>>539208605
This made me smile, thank you for the shit post.
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>>539208209
I skipped because of the feet
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>>539209509
Any doomposting talking about EoS is retarded, because the game still makes more than enough money to keep the lights on give how small their development team and advertising budget is.

The only real concern is about what direction the game will take as we move forward, because there are differing opinions regarding the current and future state of the game's narrative and character designs.
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>>539209587
Schizos or Troon hugbox
u decide
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>>539209673
Like i stated, watch a run with Silver+Seed team, Its a hard team but if played correctly Its equal to Orphie teams.
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>>539207735
>Even Seed's awful banner will still make the team a little money
No becasue the stupid retards wasted far too much on marketing and damage control shills
We are looking towards the first actual red revenue banner
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>>539209161
Solo Leveling is just a perfect distillation of the worst aspects of the shonen genre. It's also very popular in the SEA region and Korea, so is a useful metric for gauging just how shit someone's taste is if they actually like it.
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>>539209821
this
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>>539209628
Based and same
I already had Trigger + engine from her first run, I'll grab Sanby + engine when she reruns
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They won't be able to achieve this shitposting with Zhao or Idols because cunnychads are invincible and immune to propaganda.
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>>539207869
>Hell, even Anby is too autistic to be for (You) and she's all the cuter for it
That's wrong though? Read SAnby's mindscapes she absolutely is for (You)
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>>539209853
Isn’t it huge everywhere?
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>>539209652
The guy who talks the most about filters can't help but also respond to posts he claims to filter. It's weird and performative.
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>>539209509
I'm not doomposting because of muh revenoo, I'm doomposting because devs are pulling off one bait-and-switch after the other to the point where I have zero hype for future banners, and, honestly, I don't even know what this game is about anymore.
Of course this game isn't going to EOS, but does that matter if every banner from now on will be Seed/Lucia/Yidhari? What am I supposed to look forward to, another HSR-tier design popping out of nowhere?
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>>539209628
Based, i'm pulling Orphie but don't let anyone tell ya what to pull . My Rata needs a signature engine soon, barely cleared DA this rotation M0S0.
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>>539210042
>Pisses everywhere to scare everyone off
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>>539209821
>miHoyo is going into the red because they're paying for a damage control shill online force
This one made me laugh, now this is a shitpost. Only a true brahmic IQ could come up with this.
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>>539209509
>How real is the doomposting for ZZZ anyway?
Until there's is new competition worth a shit, absolutely fucking zero
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>>539210042
Mighty Tiger is good for all 3 agents.
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>>539209991
TV haters caused this btw
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>>539210202
true
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>>539209991
Grown ass men acting like this is life or death situation, lol this is a chinese videogame... pull a character you like, enjoy then put the controller down.
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>>539209942
Zhao gives me hope that the character artists aren't all shit. Don't really care about the idols, though - moreso because they're idols than anything. Their designs are fine, just not for me.
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>>539209729
>The only real concern is about what direction the game will take as we move forward, because there are differing opinions regarding the current and future state of the game's narrative and character designs

>>539209991
>but does that matter if every banner from now on will be Seed/Lucia/Yidhari? What am I supposed to look forward to, another HSR-tier design popping out of nowhere?

This is what salesfag do not get
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>>539210395
>trans filename
Pot meet kettle
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>>539209956
Apparently their merchandise sales in Japan are so awful that a lot of stores remain burdened with unsold SL inventories.
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>>539209509
We made close to 300 million in our first year. We have secured income for the next 10 years even factoring in devs, cost, everything. 99.9% of shitposts are copy-pasted.
If you look up some of these doomkeks in the archives you'll find that yes, they make these same posts every thread, every day, for weeks. Notice how Fufu is getting approximately 0 doomposts, when during her banner it was neverending?
Use your head.
These (posters) don't even play.
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shitfufu is so irrelevant that nobody even brings her up except for the usual pedos
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>>539210301
>acting like this is life or death situation
I'm not? Read my post again.
>pull a character you like
That's the point, my dude, with current direction they will run out of 'good' characters eventually and you'll be left with whatever they've been shoveling in 2.2 and 2.3.
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Kafka, Chlorinde, Yelan, Lauma.... home... Ngl zoo characters have zero aura
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>>539210187
>Fufu
>good for Miyabi
horsey...
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>>539210301
>lol why do you even care bruh it's not that serious
Nigger thought process. Just keep shoveling the shit hoyo pumps out.
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>>539210121
>Our game is gonna die because according to this doomjeet they're spending too much money for online defense force counter-shills
CEO level post, this one gets an extra 5$ google play card.
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>>539210475
If I recall, Fufu made about the same as Trigger and Hugo - considering Alice's sales, that seems to be more or less the "new normal" for second-half banner sales, since they've been putting all the meta characters in the first-half since at least 1.7.

I'd say Seed is actually getting more shitposting than Fufu did, because Seed'a banner is doing considerably worse than Fufu's or Trigger's banners despite being in the first half and getting all those first-half bonuses to revenue. Also the additional advertising they did for her.
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>>539210589
My point is that if the direction changes and they run out of characters you just quit the game.
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>>539210631
>>539210589
>>539210648
>started calling people his boogeyman and hoyodrones
he has revealed himself, as always.
always the same creatures behind these posts people.
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>>539209336
Why are we recruiting a full military squad we used to be proxies not fucking war leaders
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>>539210784
I think people are upset because they view it as waste of what the game could have been, given everyone's high expectations back in 1.0.
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>>539210840
nta but you are no different lil bro. It takes two to tango
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>>539210784
And my point is that I would like to not do that because I love the game and I want it to be good
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>>539210587
Shifu saved the day last chapter.
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>>539210775
>sales post about made up numbers
watch this

don't respond to be again Suhkdeep, I don't care what theyre paying you to spam here.
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What are the cope A weapons for Seed, Trigger and Sanby? I don't think I have enough w-engine
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>>539210886
Sorry, brown people were complaining that the MC wasn't aura farming enough and needed more hype moments.
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seed flopped massively
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>>539210936
>lil bro
anybody who uses this term unironically is either horse tranny or somebody worse than him and that poster along with everybody else who doesn't live to shitpost, is better than them, you included lil failure.
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It's over
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>>539210676
jeets really are a negative marketing plague huh? every time a jeet gets internet connection you know you're either gonna get an online scammer, a bobs and vagene solicitor, a paid shill or an unpaid shitposter.
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>>539211061
unc got mad
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>>539210936
>N-n-no don't point us out saar
SAAR PLEASE STOP TO NOTICING US OKAY? WE CLEVER SHITPOST SAAR
STOP RESPONDING SAAR PLEASE I NEED THIS MONEY SAAR
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How many gift cards did they pay you, raj?
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>>539211084
still looks like a wuwa reject
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>>539211084
>nerf her giant ass
>don't actually add anything to her outfit to make her stand out mroe
for what purpose.
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>>539211015
Nobody argued about numbers when it came to Lighter, Hugo, or Trigger. This isn't about how much money is being made relative to other games, this about how well each ZZZ banner performs compared to other ZZZ banners.

Seed's banner did badly, but there's nothing wrong with liking a character who isn't popular.
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>>539211084
I wish they nerfed her design from Honkai to regular Zenless
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For all of you who want to run Lucia without her Sig, I have good news for you. Based on the recent buffs, you can now (realistically) run ER on slot 6 while stilling maxing out her sheer force buff.

The TLDR is that you need to get HP% substat on discs 1,2,3, and 6 where they all at least go +2. If you have flat hp gain, this requirement is less strict. If you also get lucky on some of your rolls for HP%, the others don't need to be +2 for it to work either
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>>539211084
left looks like a ninja turtle, barely a loss.
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>>539211210
>another post about numbers which he made up in comparisons
[-]
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>>539211084
>doesn't change anything about the actual outfit
Who cares, still looks like shit.
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Seed killed the hype.
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>>539211084
Her outfit was the problem, not her hip to waist ratio.
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>>539211084
unironically better
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>the horse xhimself already calling other people horsey while samefagging at the same time
It's gonna be a long day but not for me, I'M OUT!!!
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>>539208605
Cringe. But also kinda hot.
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There was no hype in the first place.
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>>539211010
sorry bro, some stuff is just not in your hands.
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>>539211478
this
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>>539211084
It does look a bit better. Still which they made the face a bit rounder.
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Do you think Seed's banner will get Zhenyu Li to cry and apologize on stream like Da Wei did?
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>>539211084
LMAOOOOOOOO
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>>539211084
It's so fucking over
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Jesas, SAnby buffs are fucking insane. I do not regret skipping SEED.
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>>539211084
Is it real? I didn’t see anyone say her model was adjusted
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>>539211519
it'd be funny
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>>539211084
They made her big hood smaller. That was the one thing I liked about her design.
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>>539211084
>basically zero changes to the Genshin outfit
>nerfed her thighs instead
Holy shit how clueless are they?
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>>539211519
as long as we get freebies idc.
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>>539211084
That looks 10 times better. Thank god the chinks also memed about her proportions.
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>>539211084
They nuked her hips / ass, but at least it doesn't look like someone forgot to fix their ass sliders in PSO
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>>539211210
I really don't get this either
>Lighter
sold really well compared to other banners but not Miyabi tier, If she was an S he's a B+
>Trigger
also sold well, also abot a B+
>Hugo
sold poorly, but this is to be expected as Vivian unironically sol S tier, he was like a C because he came after a big banner and before another S banner who was Shifu He was popular though and will probably do better on a rerun where he's not sandwitched between two desireable units.
>Fufu
Sold poorly but better than Hugo, so like C+ B-
>Seed
Probably the worst selling banner we ever got, mostly because of the bait and switch nature and foot fetish marketing
F grade
If I'm looking at this shit, the two new girls will probably not sell well either. Yidhari will probably be the better seller, but I suspect people will save their pulls for the next banner. Bunner will probably sell better than both of them and sword girl will sell probably like shit too. Up to the two or four upcoming units afterwards to pick up the slack.
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>>539211084
Now if only they made her arms slightly thicker, her tits slightly bigger and ported Yixuan's pelvic cuts in the suit the goat would be diamonds
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>>539211084
I suddenly don't care about her anymore
Fucking retarded mihoyo devs, her only point was the massive thighs
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I choose Orphie over Seed because she is cuter.
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>>539211084
What did they change except the hood size?
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>>539211567
If teammates aftershock filling the mark allow her to get an extra triple EX during her rotation, she will literally be VH level
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>>539211084
This just looks like the same model slightly downscaled. You can even see the height is different
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>>539211519
hopefully the robot killer gets fired
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>>539208963
The only buff that applies exclusively to Orphie is her DMG buff.
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>>539211084
The thick thighs were the only thing that wasn’t wrong with her design.
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>>539211084
Poor Lucia is some new 3D modeler first project. Just like Widebibi had to get corrected into being Mibibi.
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>>539211257
does Nicole Engine work on Lucia?
Decided now that i pull on Seed Engine as Stat Stick because i have Seed and not Evelyn.
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>>539211709
It's crazy that Seed is doing worse than Lighter when Lighter was right before Miyabi, the most anticipated character in the game. He was sent out to die and he's still doing better than Seed
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>>539211084
ass was literally too fat for the game to handle
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>>539211519
I hope so, he can apologize for Manato too while he's at it.
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>>539211084
RIP her breeding hips, but changing the clothes around her neck so it doesn't look like her head is popping out straight from a torso is a win
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>>539211084
It's just the same shit man
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>>539211826
>corrected
Destroying Widebibi is when ZZZ lost its soul
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>>539211753
It basically gets refilled every time Orphie jumps in since the ability cool down is the same amount of time as Orphie jumping in to do her aftershock
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>>539211752
more proportionate thighs and hood and thigh chains now sag
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>>539211819
what about not having a neck...? but i agree being thick was not a problem tho she did look like a pear.
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>>539211519
I hope so. Better do a dogeza too.

>>539211752
The hips, thigh chains. Also the belly details.
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>>539211084
>remove the only thing that makes an agent unique
Why?
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>>539211879
Hugo was also sent out to die before Yixuan, so I guess that means we can expect the next Male S-Rank immediately before the next Void Hunter or Void Hunter-equivalent.
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They could make the goat look like a lump of shit and you’d all still roll because she’ll turn Shifu into the strongest character in the game, sheeple.
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>>539212040
2.4 is Zhao and Damian.
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>>539212086
My senior is so smart !
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>>539212062
Nah, I'm skipping Lucia and making a cope team of Lighter/Orphie for my Komano.
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>>539211863
The good ol reliable will work for her. The only thing you will be missing out from not getting Lucia's sig is the damage buff while veil is active
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>shills are this mad that the goats won and everyone is pulling Orphie and Lucia instead of footslop
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>>539212206
Based and same
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>>539212062
I'm rolling for her because she's cute, and will leave her unbuilt until they finally decide to release ONE rupture agent that doesn't look like shit.
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>>539212062
Shifu is top 2 already tho, with the defense/anomaly buff she might be top 1.
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>>539212062
Yep
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>>539212291
Don't put kino Orphie in the same pot as slop Lucia
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>>539212291
Orphie is selling even less than Seed. Lucia will get carried by being Shifu's buffslut.
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>>539212062
I didn't roll Shifu. I'll roll Lucia because she resembles my wife Ganyu
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>>539210475
imagine being this full of cope
if the game was this secure and doing so well the devs wouldn't have to do constant relaunches, sweeping changes and streams apologizing to their players

face it, the game is underperforming. no amount of "f-first year revenue was good" can deny it when the game is on a death spiral that the devs are desperately trying to reverse.
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>>539212361
Mihoyo doesn't do playable villains.
Best you can get is mind control.
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>>539212406
>Orphie is selling even less than Seed.
damn that's a whole new level of shill delusions
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>>539212361
delet
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>>539212425
Thanks for funding our game, /hsrg/. I hope you guys enjoy all the events, collabs, and new planets your devs give you.
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>>539212062
She gives marginally better buffs than Pan
>900 sheer and 20% increased damage with 30% CDMG
vs
>750 sheer and 30% increased damage from all attacks
I guess with M2 she'd be even better, but it's not by much.
>>539212206
Does that work for Komano, I figure he gets enoguh CDMG as it is.
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Obol shitters be liek: no your flop will flop harder than my flop
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Both 2.2 characters flopping (great designs, interesting kits) and Lucia being a massive success due to her metafag nature will be the coup de grace for ZZZ.
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>hrtpags
Imagine barely beating Alice with their memed banner LOL
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>>539212425
Holy indian (the poop kind not the feather kind).
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>>539212480
>Best you can get is mind control.
nah bro if they do mindcontrol they're gonna get debanked by western payment processors
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>>539212062
This. I need the best for my Shifu
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>>539211084
She looks better in my opinion
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>>539212538
We won't get any of that. Faggot devs shilling his whore Elysia.
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>>539212206
Based
I'm rolling on the rerun banner too
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>>539212480
ISOLDE MINDCONTROL FETISH NOW.
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>>539211084
>couldn't be bothered to remove all the pointless trinket clutter from her outfit
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>>539212554
It doesn't make Komano himself quite as strong, but it means the team as a whole is performing very well because Lighter buffs both himself and Orphie along with Komano, and Orphie has pretty good damage to contribute.

Also it's an incredibly stylish team if you seem them in action, because they all share a similar color scheme and visual effects.
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>>539212504
kek, I actually believe that you believe she'll do better. that's pretty sad, you're gonna be so disappointed
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>>539211084
Just fucking scrap it at this point. Unironically the worst looking character in the game with no redeeming features
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>>539211084
Right one looks better. They need to also reduce her ass size and boobs size.
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>>539212745
Good idea
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>>539212884
>seedpag shill thinks we are getting another sub Lighter flop anywhere soon, especially when the entire 2.2 story was about shilling Orphie
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>>539212947
Should have gone with either urban goth witch or wastelander witch aesthetic.

Also should have made her an oni if she's going to be all about magical artifacts and summoning.
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>>539212664
her tits are too damn big
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>>539212480
>Mihoyo doesn't do playable villains.
What's stopping them?
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>>539213059
boy you're in for a rude awakening
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>>539211084
her breasts needs to go down near her vagina.
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>>539213194
Chinese regulations
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Just roll the entire squad you dumbfucks.
The whole idea is you can mix an mtch thm however you're in the mood for and have fun.
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>>539212554
Lucia got buffed, it's 1200 sheer force now I think
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>>539211084
My dick hated it at first, but she does look better.
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>>539211084
now there is no reason to pull
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>>539213084
She could have been anything and what she is isn't a problem. It's that her outfit is such a visual monstrosity that it taints whatever you put inside it. I've gotten to the point of modding where if I end up pulling her in a 10, I'll try to salvage her outfit
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>>539213373
>roll the full flop squad for mediocre damage
nah
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I've gotten so accustomed to Lighter's extended stun windows that whenever I don't use him, it feels like the bosses recover from stun almost immediately.

How do you all live like this?
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>>539213373
>just roll for shit designs you don't even like, gweilo
I don't think I will.
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>>539213481
>>539213481
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>>539213373
>rolling for slop
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>>539213472
>How do you all live like this?
I don't... I have my bro Lighter...
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>>539213050
They need to remove her completely for another character.
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>>539211919
La luz extinguido...
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>>539213205
Cope harder, retard, i am always correct. Can't wait for your squirming in just a week, pag turd
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>>539213604
relax uncle lol
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>>539211084
>makes genshin design that only stands out because of her thighs generic as fuck
I will no longer defend this character
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>>539213373
its already done.
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>>539212825
I might have to do that, The plan was to cop Orphie and use somebody else to buff Komano, but then I lose Lighter one Hugo's team and don't know who to fill with.
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>>539211084
Genuinely ruined
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>>539208304
Seed is a better teammate for Sanby
Which says a lot when orpheus is supposed to do damage off field and buff aftershocks lmao, just horrific character

Play seed/sanby quickswap style with Seed being the ""main fielder"" because she gives Sanby energy while on-field, whenever you do a mecha slam swap to Sanby and unload her specials



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