>”someone else will bring anti-tank weapons”previous: >>539185649>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets and their patience, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit and their colleagues. With Joel's blessing, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player is based if they combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/>MAJOR NEWShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7Sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw>LATEST PATCHESSep 02 1.004.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516345493302805199Sep 04 1.004.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516346126609155527
>sharty "content" OPdisgustingOP you're a bona fide faggot
what a dogshit OP
FUCK YOU SWEDEN MAKE NEW STRATS AND BUFF SOME FUCKING GUNS
>>539222267gem OP
lobby doko desu ka
>sharted OP
Low quality threads require low quality ritualposts.
OP sharted all over this thread before anyone else could make a postimpressive
I shoot randos right before extract...
>>539222719This is just your normal ritualpost though
>>539222267Don't care, my AC kills everything
>>539222823delete this or backpack sissy is about to have another melty about >muh 2 slots
>>539222719please anon, not another liberator variant
17 hours until I can finally buy the machete
>sharted>sharted>shartedI have no idea what you guys are talking about I just thought the pic was funny and topical since shitbeards are always bringing Redeemers and Gas Grenades and Strafing Runs and Laser Cannons then when something huge shows up they can’t kill it and I have to. If you’re that scared of chaff just bring a thermite or bring a 500 and skimp on one of the gay little things you like so you’re not soft-locked out of killing half the enemies.
TWOSLOTS
>shartyKINO OPbvsed...
>>539223107heh
>>539223063Sure thing incel
WE'VE GOT A LOBBY!steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243979147082/76561198120804312BOOGS (moon kino)
>>539222823the only reason I take the AMR over the AC is because I like the jetpack too much
Does resistance level affect spawn rate?
>>539223293So it’s a bunch of trannies seething. You look at a bearded soijak and see yourself instead of the woman you pretend to be online. Eat shit you dograping troon.
>>539223396is this what people make now instead of halo x linkin park AMVs
>>539223443I wish I could care about a backpack that much but I just don't. Maybe once the climber backpack hits.
>metaslave is a projecting troonimagine my surprise>>539223602but anon there is no vertical base to scale
>>539222823ok then why are we being swarmed by 4 chargers and I’m leaping around thermiting them, Autoasshole? Why do I have to pop the squid shield and blast it with an ultimatum, where ARE you?? bring fucking something else next time ffs
>>539223001I don't think it's coming this rotation anon..
>>539223735yes well they'd have to figure out how to make genuine canyons, mountains, and skyscrapers first but still I'd really like it. shooting up and down would give the gunplay like a whole nother dimension n sheet. and once it works well enough, aerial vehicles could come into play. baby pelicans.
>>539223501So you ARE from sharty
>>5392233962/4 JOIN FAGGOTS
>>539224325no
>>539224093You’re from fucking sharty no idea what that means. Go shart yourself wtf? You must be a tranny unironically using “in cel” you gonna call me a chud next? Seriously go fuck a dog and don’t respond to me ever again freak. Why are you even on this site if wojak triggers you, seriously.
>>539224486
>>539224486back in my day trolling was a art
>>539223396>20 fucking minutesWe could've finished a mission already. STILL 2/4! WHERE THE FUCK ARE (you)!
>>539224486Why do you get so angry at getting called out for being a wojack posting faggot?
>>539224592Neither did any of the playerbase
>>539225274I’m just in awe at the backlash. It was a funny pic of some bison and suddenly all this seethe. Jesus Christ.
>>539225189Working, it's a weekday.
>>539225415lurk moar until you realize wojaks are only used by undesirables
>>539225415Wojacks look gross which tells me only bad people like them.It also has nothing to do with helldivers.
>>539225414I've been complaining about since the mechs were first released, though. Granted one schizo isn't going to get their attention. But now that the underground planet got people to use the mechs maybe others will start to realize that it's a giant oversight for above ground. Not being able to call down other stratagems from within the mech is just such a liability.
I decided to get Borderline Justice instead of some other Warbonds I wanted, for the Deadeye, but I'm not really sold on itMake me either regret my decision or justify it to make me feel better since it'll be awhile till I can get another one. Can be about the deadeye or the warbond as a whole
>>539225937It has the hoverpack who the fuck cares about anything elsetake to the fucking skies faggot, it's the funnest piece of gear in any of the warbonds
>>539225937Dynamite is an addclear grenade
>>539225415next time you gotta use MS paint and draw your own version of it
>>539225678> Wojaks look gross which tells me only bad people like themtfw
>>539225937It's a great warbond.Deadeye is goated, so is the talon.Dynamite is alright and can be used for playing hot potato or other shennenigans.I find the hoverpack to be shit, but some anons seem to get niche use out of it.
>>539225937>I decided to get Borderline Justice instead of some other Warbonds I wanted, for the Deadeye, but I'm not really sold on itIt needs some kind of speed loader and it would much better. But even then, it's basically a worst scrotcher
>recoilless rifle>rocket turret>eagle 110m rocket pods>anti tank minesany changes to this anti tank loadout?
>>539225937deadeye is one of if not the best marksman rifleslots of ammovery good vs squidsit's the slugger if it wasn't shityeee haaaw
>it's a sharty thread
Any guesses on who is getting updated next? Squids or Bots? My guess is that it’s gonna be squiggas as we’ll get the start of the whole Meridia shenanigans thing and that will end once either the DSS or the Black Hole is destroyed, then we’ll be “distracted” from the Illuminate once we’re at our lowest (presumably no DSS) with the reveal of the Automaton knock-off Death Star, which will be a middle arc of sorts between the destruction of Meridia and the Cultists appearing (if it doesn’t get pad out by more bug fuckery).
>>539226305Also the tube magazine could just be detachable as well.
>>539224486Wojaks are a bit dull most of the time but it's fine. Garlicjaks on the other hand were never board culture and have been rightfully banished from 4chan. Imagine being so fucking shit that when even /mlp/ got a board, you haven't. Fucking furshit is more tolerated than shartyjaks.
>>539226365remove rockpods and go with 500 for bile titan holes/bot constructs
>>539225937it's ok. has some stagger on it so you won't get buttfucked while you try to aim around phantom hitboxes
>>539226365take 500kg, airstrike, gatling, or even the damn orbital precision instead of rocket pods, those shits love to miss, do no dmg, and/or target the wrong enemy
>>539226365>anti-tank>eagle 110mm rocket pods
110m rocket pods works on my machine
>>539226365how about you take some useful stratagems you one trick andy so you don't get bogged down the picosecond anything else than a charger shows up within your fovthe game barely ever spawns enough heavies for you to need more than just the RR
Why doesn't Super Earth use tanks?
>>539226527ANOTHER TEN BILLION UNITS FOR BUGFAGS
>>539225937Shit warbond, the best thing about it is the niche armor passive and the heavy armor's look.
>>539226527squiggers have had the cultists since forever, while bots have nothing, so I would assume squids are next up>>539226681shut the fuck up alexus
>>539226545>garlic sharty jacs You completely lost me.
>>539226770They did in HD1. The devs probably can't program one that doesn't get stuck on the terrain. They should just make hover vehicles or something.
>>539226527>Any guesses on who is getting updated next?>dispatch says to retake esker which is 2 planets awayit's bugs, the game is about bugs, 2 more weeks of bugs
>>539226639>anti tank>it actually kills tanksWhat's the problem?
I wish the slugger was more like the N7 Crusader
>>539226950Don't worry, after you lurk more you'll get the hang of it. Try not to bake in meantime.
>>539226860>doesn't know that cultists were removed from the game's files like over a year ago
>>539227029the tanks are not tanks retard
>>539226748how about you call your mom and tell her you love her
Repasted my soul machine 3 (PS3) and i'm going to buy helldivers 1.
>>539226748why the fuck would you need stratagems for anything that isn't heavy armour
>>539227029The problem is that it randomly does not kill tanks through no fault of your own
>>5392185983/4 Commander Rimanah needs (You)!
>be me>always run the same thing>liberator penetrator>senator>recoilless rifle>rocket sentry>orbital strike>eagle airstrike>works against bugs, bots, or squidsthe only time this HASN'T worked is against the new bug update, which is actually impossible even if I don't get weird stuttering
>>539225937hoverpack fun
>>539227290you should pirate it instead, narrowhead does not deserve your money, since most of hd1's content is dlc locked
>>539227365Full!
>>539227290Arrowhead patched hd1 to brick it and replace the main menu with an ad for Helldivers 2, you can't play it anymore
>>539227290As much as I love HD1, be warned that it has an extremely cancerous pay2win model. So get ready to buy like $30+ of DLC on top of that since there is no super credit farming. But also it has much better and more varied strategems and weapons. It's also on Steam now as well, though I'm not sure if its crossplay. I'd only really recommend it if you got some friends to couch coop with since that was what the game was designed for.
Speaking of HD1, I missing being able to double up on the same strategem. For example I would bring in 4 napalm airstrikes and make a square of fire around the objective. There was just some fun things you could that you're now just more limited on.
wtf the talon is better than most primaries this thing slaps and claps, rapes and gapes
post yfw the APC drops, and it's so top-heavy that simply turning will make it flip, and no amount of explosives will be able to upright it
if i join your lobbies can you promise not to make fun of me or judge me i'm emotionally sensitive
>>539227979no
>>539227979it's all bants homo
>>5392278594 eagle strafing runs would make me soooooo happy
>microphoneThat's a kicking
>>539227979I will cluster bomb your mom, gaymo
>>539228226Exactly, and they can't have you being happy. You might become content and stop focusing on the next new warbond.
the mother of all hotfixes is needed
>>539227979post hole
>>539228258I keep it muted and not totally disabled just so I can kick people on mics
>>539227942mfw they will never release the APC and/or tank.
>>539227979I won't judge you or make fun of you, but in return you will have to ERP as a prostitute i pick up in my FRV.
>>539223884what do you mean... we are currently in the last rotation so it will switch back to first one
>>539227441For me it’s>500>Laser>Napalm>Supply Pack>*whatever primary I’m currently leveling*>Ultimatum (my real primary)>ThermiteEvery game. Every faction.
Is there any yellow player background card things?
>>539228837they're called asians you racist
>>539228505come back.... please....
Lvl 9 almost 10 new playerStarting to get into harder matchesWhat are good warbond things to get?I like sentries and explosivesI use the orange armor that gives you extra grenadesMainly use R63 Diligence with machine gun/ grenade launcherI just like being the one taking out bug holesI know using EATs is handyIs there a way to get extra stratagem slots or is that it?
>>539229315The default sentries are your best sentries, no warbond has good sentries in itDemocratic Detonations is focused pretty squarely on all that and even let's you get extra grenadesIt has explosive default weapons which can close bug holes evenNo
>>5392293154 slots are all you get. If you enjoy explosives your best warbonds to get are Democratic Detonation, Servants of Freedom, Urban Legends. Roughly in that order.
>>539229315paypal me ten dollars and you get a fifth slot
>>539229315>Is there a way to get extra stratagem slots or is that it?not bringing your own support weapon/backpack and stealing shit from your teammates instead.
>>539229189you'll get it, and it'll die from a single rocket devastator
>>539229315I know level 150's who use all the basic stuff. it's all about playstyle, there's no wrong way to play the game. there is no way to get an extra strategem slot.
>>539228620Has it really been that long that we're at the last rotation?
>>539226365replace 110 with eats
>>539229581Ah figured defaults were the way to goThere's so many bundles so I didn't look into all of themAlso sucks its 4 forever but that's just fun game design I guess>>539229624OK I'll look into those>>539229634Sent! Thank you!
>>539229315You just get 4 slots. And I never know what to tell people to get when they don’t have all warbonds unlocked already. You have to leap into a d10 to see what you really like and need before you make your choice.Grab a medium pen AR from somewhere because that’s a good all-around kind of gun to deal with any of the factions >diggers>most bots>stingraysThose are the main things you have to worry about so get a medpen AR. And thermite. If you get the Penetrator from Helldivers Mobilize then prioritize whichever warbond gives you thermite. Thermite kills literally (virtually) anything.
>120mm>380mm>eagle cluster>airburst>eruptor>ultimatum>pineapple*siiip*yep, it's accidental tk'ing time
>>539227979u suc lol
>>539229189I don't want a gay ass APC with the other 3 fags in it with me, I want a single man tank.
>>539229693I never bring a support weapon there’s always machine guns and AMRs littering POIs.
>>539225937The deadeye is a meme because the only breakpoint it hits is Overseer heads vs the DCS and regular Dilli which both mag reload and can be dumped in semi-auto. The only decent thing in the Warbond is the Talon which is a decent secondary to whip out, pop a few bot heads, and then put away without having to reload but it's more or less a Verdict sidegrade.
>>539229694t-thank you sweden
any other Helldivers literally diving into the soil and swimming under the earth glitching the fuck out?
>>539229961>accidentalheh...
>>539230483>no bubble shielddeserved death
>>539229861I got Democratic Detonation like the anons above said and it has ThermiteIll keep this strat in mind
>>539230486uh yeah every time an explosion goes off if I’m near a slight incline I get thrown under the model of the hill/rockspinzone, another explosion will free you if you survive and you’re basically invincible under there
>>539230436Deadeye's overkill damage per round makes it surprisingly powerful in close quarter combat. It's been called the better Slugger often. Plus if you're in the business of VERY long range shots you can't bring enough damage.
>>539227942I feel bad for secondaries that don't have the preorder stuff, but not enough to ask arrowhead to release them for everyone. Heavy armor sucks anyway
>>539230483w-why didn't he schut?
>>5392308491 big bullet is less damage then 2 slightly less big bullets, anon, and in CQC, the year long reload is going to hurt even more. The Slugger is shit, but at least it leans into it's niche with the bigger mag and fast reload vs the Deadeye
>>539227441>>539228702>light commando armor>liberator carbine>bushwhacker (set to volley) or machete>recoilless>Eagle napalm>gatling barrage>machine gun turret>experimental infusion>Vietnam-era music playlistI will play no other way.
>>539226527Either squid cultists subfaction or bot homeworlds, squids are more complete
>>539230967God I wish Heavy Armour had a threshold like HD1 (or the enemy armour system) where chaff just couldn't fucking hurt you.
>>539230483What did Sweden do this time looks like you just got raped by a bunch of missles.
>>539226527next major patch is game awards 2k25, they're going to try and do the ayy thing again, this time releasing the rest of the unitsuntil then, it's gloomdiving
>>539230967Are they really secondaries just because they didn't paypig for skins? Especially considering the absolute state of the game?
>>539231189That sounds kinda based……
>>539231113replace recoilless with the commando, poser>>539231203they made the armored exosuit out of tissue paper and glass. remember when shooting your own rockets while turning made them explode inside the tube, instantly killing you?
>>539231368https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmPElekhWrUJust imagine wading through shitters and not giving a fuck.
>>539231090killing things in 2 bullets is always less funI just never took that much issue with reloading, rounds reload is easier maintenance than anything else
>>539231516>replace recoillessStopped reading there
>>539231242The preorder skins didn't cost extra, though. They were a reward for being a true arrowhead patrior. Also the game was more fun at launch than it is now, so not sure what you mean by 'state of the game'. It's their patch pace that broke the game due to trying to rush content and patches every 2 weeks
If a stratagem requires a support backpack, it's useless. I'm not not taking a drone
>>539231516>remember when shooting your own rockets while turning made them explode inside the tube, instantly killing you?Lmao yeah. And then to try and fix this they disabled the ability to shoot in any direction other than "forward" and unlinked the aim from the minigun reticule, so you had to aim to the right of a target to hit them or shoulder swap whilst firing the minigun, and couldn't rocket anything even slightly above/below you.
Halo pistol isnt actually bad I guess. Even faster (I think) reload than verdict and lower recoil makes quick shots more effective, probably a better "in a pinch" gun.I wish all handguns had faster switch speed, though. The character should just put the primary/support weapon in the left hand and fire the pistol one handed like in Max Payne 3.
>>539231612What exactly do you think you're killing in one shot vs multiple when compared to the DCS, anon? 300 damage is not enough to one shot Devs anywhere except their heads, while the DCS at 200 damage is still enough to one tap raiders and troopers to the body.
>>539231823The best part is that still didn't actually fix it completely. Your rockets would still just sometimes glitch anyways and explode for basically no reason.The absolute best part is they nerfed the rocket damage in there and it's still dogshit to this day instead of being able to one-tap Biles and Chargers in the head. FUCK these Swedes.
>>539231806Drones are just diaper shield for people who can't aim
>>539231874>I wish all handguns had faster switch speedthey made the gunslinger armor for you
>>539229315Other anons have mostly answered, but welcome to the war, newdiver. Grab democratic detonation, it's all good and good explosive RP. Servants of Freedom has a portable Hellbomb and a secondary that's basically an Orbital Precision Strike. It also has armor that explodes when you die. Just keep playing and experimenting and run what you want. Join SC farm lobbies when you want a new warbond, or just buy them I'm not your mom, but plenty of people farm on here and elsewhere.
>>539231806>won’t take a backpack of ammo for a heavy weapon>will take his robotic comfort blankieLmao
>>539231806what a retarded take
>>539232053>>539232332Yes, and?
>>539232053>isn't utilizing the sheer power of Plasma Punisher + Gun Dog on rupture strain Adapt or die.
>>539231806Guard dogs are boring. I consider them training wheels for weapons I'm not yet comfortable with.
>>539232759So how do you kill roaches?
>>539229719According to wiki yes, this is the last rotation
>>539232053>t. charred corpse from walking within a zip code of me and my jolteon
Is there any reason to take medium armor for the inherent benefit of the medium armor itself and not the passive? Like does it make it so you can take 3 hits instead of 2 or something? It seems I'm running light armor on any 40 minute map, and heavy for the smaller eradication/defense maps where you aren't moving anywhere.
>>539232180I like peak physique too much...
>>539232778Facts.
>>539233001any medium armour with an extra armour benefit is the threshold you actually want to hit for survivability increases. Literally, 101 armour rating, that's what you want. Anything above default medium.
>>539225937Deadeye is good or bad completely depending on map spawn RNG.>map spawns give guard or spewers everywhere great>map spawns gorillion hunters and predsshit>map spawns a lot of overseersgood>map spawns a lot of fleshmobs and zombiesshit>map spawns a lot of rocket devs or hulksgood>map spawns a lot of tanks and troopersshitOf course there's no way to tell what the map is going to spawn, certain biomes and mission types has higher spawn rate for some enemies but it's still RNG and we're not memorizing that shit. There's still the universal consensus that the round reload speed on it is dogshit
Thoughts on ODST (lean)?
>>539226545>Garlicjaks on the other hand were never board cultureS*yjaks are older than the kids posting them. You will never be an oldfag. You are an election tourist twisted tranime into a a crude copy of 4chans perfection.
>>539231780Preordering cost extra
I like how the news is telling us->hey go take Esker NOW or it will be CONSUMED by THE GLOOMAnd the entire playerbase doesn't give a fuck because it's a pissfog planet.
>>539233118There should be a lv6 ship upgrade that gives you intel on the enemies on the map and maybe even what the secondary objectives are.
>>539233305
>>539233187gyat
any good youtube videos covering the history of HD2's galactic war so far?
>>539233118post full
>>539232850Quasar.
>>539231780>They were a reward for being a true arrowhead patrior.should have given me an award for being an HD1 veteran
>>539233470https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx2Z5ZD_Rbohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBt6igmiwUIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL9zw_YVuT4
>>539233470It's probably better to just read the wiki article
>>539233592I can't read things while I work, but I can listen to them
>>539223396Lobby broke for me guess I got some kind of aidsGGs bros
>>539232902this makes me sad... my cat's still a skittish asshole despite all the space I give him and all my attempts to encourage play
>>539226545I tried googling garlicjak and the result was this thread lol
>>539233334>not a major order>nobody cares and nobody reads the dispatchesTell me friend how new art thou?
>>539223396>finish 2nd mission>infinite black screenSWEDEEEEEN!>anons leave>just the two of us now2/4!!!! COME BACK ANONS!
>>539233708that's why I stopped giving my cat space and I just pick her up and let her cope that she's going to spend the next 5 minutes in my lap getting loved on no matter how much she wants to go do cool cat shit on her own.
>>539233421If it wasn't on sale, it by default cost extra
>>539233892tried that, cat either turns into a chainsaw or jumps away immediately, or both
>>539234195sometimes you gotta take a few claws to rub a fuzzy belly my man
>retards wasting time on the mega nest on a blitz>get bug breach dropped on me when I'm near extract>2 minutes on a blitz>randoms wasting time with the mega nest bug holes done>i tell them to call the fucking extract>green calls me the retard saying we're doing that when I did it already>as soon as time runs out he and I die due to the bug breachesOnly guy I ever kicked holy shit
>>539233805NTA but I'm very new, what do you mean by this?
>>539233056Same. After adding the flash hider and a vertical grip to my libcarb I cal burst bug heads from way of and hip fire full auto with no issue if I need to
>surrounded>with a positive decay modifier >with a quarter of the playerbase>Victory in 2 fucking days Yeah Narrowhead fucking tell me again how this fucktarded liberation system of yours isn't broken as fuck. These circumstances should warrant a half a day at most to clean this planet up. Especially because Joel is going to cock it up with a new MO tomorrow that has nothing at all to do with this. He could be merciful and give it a minor order, but that's not part of the railroad so fuck you.
>>539231113machete with the weapon toggle glitch is pretty darn fun. turns into a blender
>>539233187OvertlyDumbSkinnyTwink
>>539234297unfortunately there is basically no opportunity to do so as every ounce of the cat's being is dedicated to fucking offI'd have to hold the cat up by the scruff of the neck and then go for the belly, but that wouldn't be good for anyone :(
>>539234485>weapon toggle glitchwats dat
>>539234334The planet is not on the Major Order or Minor Order window, therefore nobody will give a fuck about it. Also, historically, absolutely nobody reads the dispatches sent out by Arrowhead/Joel. They give us info updates that would make winning MOs super easy and zero people pay attention to it because it would involve reading something for half a minute.
>>539234327>>i tell them to call the fucking extract>>green calls me the retard saying we're doing that when I did it alreadyif you did it already then why are you telling him to do it?>>539234334he's saying you're new for not knowing that nobody gives a shit about the 'campaign' because it's literally rigged
>>539234732I told them to but they weren't so I rushed through the breach to try and start it so we had some stratagems
Bot lobbysteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243986626925/76561197960404530
>>539234529sucks man. Cats vary so much. I've had a couple that are lapsluts but my current one only likes to lay on me when I'm sleeping, but at least like I said she'll tolerate it for a few minutes.Honestly there are very few better feelings than a cat purring happily in its sleep in your lap man. Can't wait to harass mine when I get back home now.
>>5392233963/4
>>539234604>options - change bindings - combat - open weapon wheel - change to "release"for pc its when you hold R to get weapon options. so it bricks that function but if you spam R and attack you will machete as fast as you can click
>>539234604gay>>539234681zero people pay attention to it because it's rigged
>>539234681Also, nothing happens if you win or lose the MO, except for getting 50 medals (actually 0 medals).
>>539233191Holy mother of projection. No, your precious tofujaks aren't older than kids posting them unless the kids are literally 8 years old. They are the very definition of election tourist culture.
>>539235008Aren't major orders the story? For example if we failed the defenses the gloom would have spread. Or if we lose Hellmire our base is fucked to do further explorations into the gloom
>>539233191>t. 20-something whose entire personality is 4chan
>>5392348402/4>>539235242don't like this
>>539235242
>>539233736It's just a silly way of saying soijak, don't give the triggered troon any more (You)s brother
>40,000 retards on cirrus even though the planet will now auto-capture on its ownI’m playing squids tonight. I’m sick of bugs.
>>539235115I'm sure we could have stopped meridia.And I'm so sad at all those times we lost MOs and because of it we lost.... uh...
>>539235454We want that sector gone anon
>>539235454giga-rare squidGOD
>>539235295>t. over 30 posting on 4chanyikes lets unpack this...
>>539235242What is bootleg huntress from risk of rain doing in my copy of helldivers, apart from becoming a victim of imminent sex?>>539235115If you fail the gloom would have spread. If you won the gloom still would have spread, just to another planet than the one you defended. Nothing matters.
>>539235115in concept it works like that, in practice lmao no we have zero agency.
When does the game get fun?
BIG PATCH TOMORROW LADS LET'S GO WOOOOOOO YEEEEAH BABYYYYY THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT
>>539235537Unpack all the dongs from your ass first
>>539235295Unc be yappin no cap
>the MO's don't matter fags are back>after it was confirmed that they planned for shit like even us losing super earth
>>539234840FVLL
>>539235642>homosexual fantasy projectionnot a good look, no cap
>>539235597when the swedistanis start focusing on performance fixes, like the month-old giga memory leak, bots crashing people to desktop, infinite black loading screens, and straight up locking up people's PCs
>>539235597When you equip meme items and go help newdivers who srill have the sparkle of democracy in their eyes.
>>539235719You mean the short shitty slapped together video of using losing super earth that was only planted for dataminers to find as "proof" that MOs matter? lmao
>>539235597when you top score and start feeling superior to your pussy faggot teammates
>>539235608At best we get a warbond trailer this week or next week for a warbond coming out in octoberI checked my magic 8 ball, it will be less good than dust devils due to "people" crying about the coyote
Imagine unronically thinking
>>539234404I mean that's a fairly Lewisham playerbase %, isnt it? Similar percentages on other planets were like a week or week and a half until libteration
>>539235719>confirmedWho's gonna tell him...
>>539235956but what if you had to think to imagine
>>539235537boomer website, youngn
>>539235719Anon the losing super earth video tidbit wasn't even voiced or finishedYou are a massive swede cum guzzling nigger faggot dbz spic and should promptly nosedive out the nearest air lock on your super destroyer
>HD1 had a lightsaber>HD2 has a metal swordbooo
>>539235719Nothing in this stupid fucking game matters
>the gas effect doesn't stop bugs from calling in a breachnice CC faggots
>>539235807Only one more dinner...
>>539236126>Lightsaber in HD2>still only med pen>doesn't light things on fire
>>539236034dont you have a family to provide for and a retirement to plan unc, posting on 4channel at your age is kinda skibidi...
>>539236163Fucking good. I live for gassing the breaches. Nothing makes me as rock hard as dropping gas and napalm right on a bug hole and watching them all come up confused and disoriented as they melt and burn
>>539235608Mein Helldiver... the patch...
>>539236163let those bug fuckers climb into my braps and take the deepest of sniffs, I'll tank the breach for the rest of my group as they're all solofagging random POIs
>>539235719>literally had something like 12 MOs in a row where we were going to lose and then got a "uh, ahkshully, we found samples under the bed/extra corpses/the planet lost all it's resistance! MO targets lowered!">Still believe they are not riggedThe average IQ world wide is going down. And you are here to remind me.
>>539236350What fucking break???
>>539236350geez, AH, another break? You just had a two week vacation
>>539235925A warbond just came out Anon, it's still another month to go at best and they've said they're focusing on bugfixing and technical work, not content so it might be even further away.
>>539235719Oh boy, i'm sure sad we lost the MO for AT mines, TWICE.So sad we can't have AT mines, oh wait, we did get them.
>>539236163if I were a bug and someone started gassing me i'd also call in a breach
>>539236485Yes, but what about the second break
>>539236482Dinner, of course!
>>539236485they need a break from the break they just had. please understand
Average swedish work week>Monday-Thursday: Break>Friday: 9-11am, followed by second breakfast, then dinner
>>539236430You are in a sharty general and are complaining about average IQ, idk what to tell you
>>5392362944chan is a retirement home lil bro
>>539236485never underestimate how fragile and lazy euro's are
>>539236485>spend two weeks every two months in vacation>plus weekends>plus long weekends>plus post-patch breaksI know it's unhealthy to work too much, but these assholes don't work at all.
>>539236886Did these cucks know how much work a live service game is?
joined a /hdg/ lobby yesterday and everyone but me was level 150, felt very stressed and under huge pressure
>>539236557The one (UNO) good thing I can say about not having any choice-MOs to unlock stratagems for such a long time is I don't have to watch people delay them for months on end for the meme.
>>539236886these faggots are speed gonzalez compared to fatshark manthese retards actually regularly add content, just never fix the content, which is a lot better than the absolute fucking dregs down the street from them
What exactly does Dinnams Jordinner even do as a CEO? Authorize vacations? Why doesn't this stupid motherfucker crack the whip? They've lost 70k players in less than a month
>/hdg/ getting mad at easily verifiable ragebaitthe mitchimus faggot hasn't posted in a week
>>539237104But do you get new paid cosmetics every week?
>>539236774Uh-oh, trannie melty continues! ywnbaw
>>539237104The duality of the Swede. Literally no reason why you can have content and good performance aside from pure incompetence
Can the Sterilizer handle chargers?
>>539237208Sweden's labor laws basically restrict the ceo from doing anything other than personally sucking off every single employee and getting down on all fours to be a human foot rest.
>>539235496>We could have stopped MeridiaIt was leaked like a month before it happened, but the singularity would have happened no matter what.
>>539237224He's clearly on a break.
>>539237224>mitchimus faggotThe what now?
>>539237469>>539236350
>>539235496hey man there was that one time we lost detroit and its auto-manufacturing and they tried to nerf the FRV but couldn't
>>539237386Maybe if they allowed whip cracking their streets wouldn't be flooded with criminal migrant gangs from Morocco or Chechnya or Somalia
>>539237487Am I supposed to know and/or care who that is?
>>539237385not while they're charging at youstun grenades would do the job betterthe halt might be able to stop them?
>speargun can close holes with a piece of rod and whatever firecracker-tier charge to spread poison>huge explosion of fully charged epoch can't
>>539237385Sterilizer is a gas dispenser not a weapon if that's what you're asking.If it dies from gas grenades yes sterilizer can kill it at about the same rate.
>>539237959The rod and firecracker have weight, you don't understand physics.
>>539238078How heavy is a nuclear detonation? Following AHs """realism""" nukes shouldn't be able to level a fucking fence.
>>539237959Spears have weight!
>>539237959>epoch can destroy fabs>but not a fenceThis game has no real consistency.
>>539238202They should rename the plasma weapons to "illuminate black fluid squirt guns" then they can do whatever the fuck they want with them, since it's a made up fictional load.
>>539238294This game doesn't even have FAKE consistency.
>>5392348403/4
>>539222823>kills everythingmeanwhile Recoilless and EAT does this but better
>>539237959epoch will never be good broski
>patch tomorrow>we've used liberty to fix the speargun arrow floating bug>we've administered democracy to fix a random bug where one of you NPC crew doesn't blink properly>everything else added to known issues>added 4 gigs to game file sizeBest of luck democracy doers! We love trannies! t. AH
>>539234840rfull again
>>539225415wojaks have been universally hated, even moreso when /qa/ got nuked
>>539238564Lel, what a self report.
>>539238402fabricators have HP on top of the hatchesyou can only destroy them through the hatches if your weapons has enough demoforceBut if you can force your way through the HP with enough raw damage you can destroy them too.Epoch destroys fabs by depleting their HP because it has no demoforce.Which is even more retarded because it means the Epoch isn't destructive enough to destroy a fabricators vulnerable internal systems, but at the same time has enough destructive power to blow up it's heavily armored outsides.
>>539236350What fucking break??? They just had summer break! The game is fucking charred what the fuck are they doing????
>>5392348403/4 again (chicken bag caused this)
>FRV about to flip>if you turn INTO the flip while accelerating, the front tire will make contact with the floor and force counter-flip the car, straightening out the landingI'm not sure if this is more correct than other games, but it's sure different.
>>539234840fulkl
>>539238818that's nice bakahead, now just try and escape this chainlink prison
Will this game be more fun in a year?
Are they actually having a break or was that bait
>>539238954kek
>>539239264a little over a year ago I stopped playing and wondered thatit's not really now. maybe another year is what it needs.
>>539239318>>539237224
>>539238620>fixed a bug where the coyote was dealing more damage than intended>fixed a bug where diggers would sometimes miss>fixed a bug where the dragonroach would tale too long to respawn>foxed a bug where hellmire was not being attacked often enough>fixed a bug where flashlights were too bright>fixed a bug where helldivers were taking too little damage>fixed a bug where chargers were not accurate enough>fixed a bug where alpha commanders were not summoning enough warriors>fixed a bug where weapons were doing too much durable damage
>>539239264we'll be lucky if it still fucking works a year from now.
>>539239495in a year's time the game will be 300GB and only 12 people will be able to play it without it crashing to desktop.AH will still not bugfix.
I love coop games
>>539239039That's how it works with real car tricks too. Imagine it in slow motion. The front tire turns, putting more surface area under the point where the weight is being distributed to. Let's assume it's an AWD vehicle. Accelerating starts grip on the front and rear tires, pulling the front of the car towards the tipping point and pushing the rear of the car forwards. The inertia of the vehicle is still going straight, so while the tire side is being pulled outwards, the vehicle body now wants to be pulled downward due to the change in direction. It's roughly the way a drift works too, where you turn opposite to the direction of the curve then suddenly whip the car into the turn, letting the car weight send the car into a drift instead of driving straight.
>"oy vey we are just a smol indie studio please be patient ;__;">150 people>owned by fucking Sonyuh ok
>>539232053laser dog is useful for rupture in caves because it shows you where you're being flanked from
Epoch now apply plasma DoT damage ( stronger than heavy burn and last longer )
>>539239983If it's enough to finish off the tank enemies it can't kill with a single shot then I guess it'd be cool.
>>539236350When will discord and soidivers notice and chimp out? also check out steam forums
>>539239983I'd honestly rather it just not feel like garbage to use
>>539239983Turning it into a different weapon isn't the solution
>>539239264>>539239318Flip a coin
>Rupture warrior's being completely unavoidable if you are the host is the intended gameplay experience.When they fix that shit you can expect all these people who have never hosted against the diggers will be pissed.
>>539235719The MO doesn't matter, the game will keep going. You're not going to gather enough people to flip expectations unless it somehow insults the chink bot swarm again
>>539239983Just make it into an upscaled purifier instead of whatever the fuck it is.
>>539239828150 is small these days.
>>539239603And those 12 people will be lying.
>>539223842Why waste an ultimatum on a harvester? Its toes are weak to pyrotech grenades.
>>539239426at this point it's not even shitposting. they literally are Shitpost:The Reality
Is Planetary Resistance an actual like mechanic that's interactable with/influenced by stuff, or is it basically just a knob for the devs to tweak to slow down or speed up planet campaigns?
>>539239983>buffing a top tier supportBetter spend this brainpower on buffing the AMR or MMG.
>>539240174but currently it's a bad QC and RR, so why not make it into something "unique"?
>>539239318bait
>>539240396It's not a big game despite the file size. 150 people is plenty.
>>539235719This post is clearly doing something right since it's triggering the appeal to triviality niggers that infest this game.
>>539240601Yes.It's based on supply lines until Joel turns the knob.
>>539225937The talon is probably the best all around sidearm for just shooting things. The hoverpack is fun on bricks missions to just perch yourself on top of something stupid while you rain down hell. Well, as much fun as can be had in the snorefest that are bricks missions. I think that the hoverpack will still be useful there if they ever get around to increasing the enemy spawn rate by 30x in bricks missions.
>>539240694It's human instinct to correct someone who is wrong about something. That's why attention fags think "I'm retarded" is a troll.
>>539240469metafaggots are something else
>>539240639Anon, you missunderstand what it is.Epoch isn't AT, it's a aoe based medium killer that happens to be quite good at killing heavies.
>>539240601So about that. I was going to post this anyway but its related. Seychel beach was at 0.22 earlier and now it's at 0.11 for some reason.I really don't think any of the galactic war works unless Joel is hard at working turning knobs.
>>539240601It's only influenced when Joel intervenes. So, it's not anything we can control directly. It's a knob, used by a knob.
>>539240639It already is unique, it's a backpackless plasma rocket launcher with a railgun charge mechanic, it just sucks assGiving it some random gimmick isn't gonna make it any better in the same sense that giving the spear a dumbfire mode or flak or some shit would make that weapon any good
>>539240625>top tier>have to use it perfectly for an incredibly mediocre C-tier outcome
>>539229315>What are good warbond things to get?I'm going to reiterate to get democratic detonation. Xbow/Eruptor/grenade pistol/thermites are all staples that can be used in a variety of strong loadouts. People will almost universally tell you to get this warbond first. After that opinions will diverge wildly. I'd vote "control group" exclusively because of the warp pack.
>>539240906How is he wrong about it. Unless Arrowhead literally stated it doesn't matter then you do not have evidence that it doesn't matter. You are not the authority on what is right or wrong about MOs. You are just a nigger. Do not respond to me again.
>>539240981>is AT>is quite good at killing heaviesidk anon sounds awfully like AT to me
>>539230281>I never bring a support weapon there’s always machine guns and AMRs littering POIs.I tried this once vs squid megacities and it was a shitshow because no support weapons spawned and my team completely shat the bed until finally I looted an autocannon from someone that died.
I LOATHE the unpaintable orange on dominator
>>539241015Well, they are paying joel for something and it ain't his GM skills.
>>539240981It's a heavy killer, there are much better medium killers and its AOE is dogshit. It may kill 2 spewers in one shot that are clumped and beat the railgun/AMR, but it's still worse than the GL at this
>>539240625>MMGWhy would they buff the already best machine gun? If anything it's Stalwart that needs buffs.
>>539241501both the MG-43 and Stalwart should get weapon customization and that's all they need
>>539229773>>539229581The laser sentry is "ok". It's aggressively mid and needs some buffs before anyone sane would pick it as their first sentry, but it's "ok". I use it sometimes in situations where I'd like to have two MG sentries. Two MG sentries would be vastly preferable but you can't do that without cheating. The gatling sentry is another option for bringing a "second but worse MG sentry", but people like to go hug the sentries and the gatling sentry tends to instantly cut teammates in half while the MG and laser sentries just tend to waste a stim.
>>539241392But gl sucks vs hulks, tanks, dogs or warstriders.
>>539239983Epoch just needs 4 shots instead of 3, and a much larger max AOE at full charge
>>539240601The only mechanical part of it is that a planet that is surrounded will be reduced to 0% resistance. Otherwise its completly arbitrary.And if resistance isn't enough to railroad, then Joel isn't above just deleting all our liberation progress.
What are the Automatons up to?
>>539240625All these bullet based support weapons need is better durable damage (and better opticals)
>>539241348>swedish DEIthey are obsessed with replacing the white
>>539241501Stalwart is way better though, atleast on bots and bugs.
>>539241639So it's a heavy killer that happens to be OK at killing mediums then?
>>539237959>>539238078Alexus unironically argues that the epoch shouldn't be able to destroy chain link fences because it lacks mass. Meanwhile orbital laser shatters detector towers.
>>539241698soundbug crashing your game into the dirt. Bots have adapted to find new ways to win
>>539241831Or a medium killer that is good at killing heavies.
>see people on Reddit saying "Haha where are the bot divers saying bugs are the easiest front now!" >log in after like 8 months>bugs even on diff 10 are INFINITELY easier than either other factionWhy do bugfags still cope about this? The new walkers the bots have in particular are total aids.
>>539241825is this bait?
D 10 whatever steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243994759204/76561198088743007
>>539242002the problem is it's actually a medium killer that's only middlingly good at killing mediums and even less middlingly good at killing heavies thoughbeit
>>539241874He is absolutely right.
>bugs are not that fun (gameplay is just run away n spam stuff sorry)>bots crashing games and not difficult enough (why do so many troopers still spawn in reinforcement waves in d10 bloating up the maximum unit count lmao?)>illuminate not difficult enough (boring dps checks, no interesting enemies yet)Sadly I'm gonna have to take another break, hopefully liberty day will inject this game with more good content
>>539240968Honestly, why waste a pyrotech on a harvester? It takes ~2 talon magazines or so to pop a harevster shield. 2 shots each to its horns to disable the shield generator and arc thrower. Then 10 shots to a toe to destroy the thing. Just get in close where it can't adequately target you with the heat ray and it can't do shit.
>>539242146how do explosions break fences
Steeled Veterans, Polar Patriots, Freedom’s Flame or Servants of Freedom?Why?
>>539242098They're talking about the diggers, not standard bugs
>>539242178you'll get a cape and child's wooden constitution that shoots rubber bands
>>539241831That's not what the general agreed on.>I disagreeCope. (You) had your chance, should have voted differently.
>>5392421283/4
German dub > English dub
>>539241501stalwart has a niche already, they need to give back the higher RPM to the HMG so I can rip and tear titan asses with it
>>539242352What does this tier list have to do with how we classify weapons
>>539242296Viper Commandos
>come back after a year+ hiatus>solo some bots for fun>get instagibbed by a fire shotgun shieldnigger from 100 meters awayGood to see arrowhead are still completely retarded.
>>539242107No, stalwart shreds everything at high rpm, low recoil, and doesn't need stationary reloads.And there are extremely few armour 3 enemies in the game.
>>539242689>not one of the mentioned warbonds from the questionNow let's try to get an answer from someone who's not a complete retard
>>539242767as much as I fucking hate arrowhead and they've done a lot of retarded shit, shotgun devs are based
>>539242818This brings fear into Stalwartsissy heart.
>>539242296Polar Patriots has the Purifier doesn't it? That and the Tenderizer are fun.
>>539242352>epoch not even on the listRetard.
>>539242818it's aids against bots bro.... it limits you to killing troopers and popping heads (IF they are facing you ) which is what any primary already does
lore reason why explosions don't affect underground rupture strains?
>>539242689I’ve got that one bro
>>539242931stalwart shreds that thing if you literally move your cursor you nimrod
>>539242296servants of freedomfunny nuke backpackthat is all
>play bots for the first time in a while>get short freezes whenever bullets start flyingIs anyone else dealing with this?
>>539242994learn to shoot their waist or legs dude, you don't have to remove their heads all the time
>>539242994You know devestators only have armour on the chest.Tummy and legs are all lethal and all light pen.MMG struggles way more vs heavy dev spam.
>>539242352>11 votes, all me btw
>>539242818Stalwart is a waste of a support slot with all the primaries that can emulate it, MMG's AP3 is useful against AV2 as well
>>539237959They really should stop spouting stupid ass nonsense and just say it with their chest that they don't want a AP support weapon with no backpack that can also close holes.
>>539243025they do?
>>539242297Still cant compare at all. Hunter strain is kind of annoying but I would rather queue 100 hunter planets than having to deal with strategem jammed outposts full of walkers
>>539243181yes. allegedly it is the sound bug. Probably won't even be acknowledged by swedes in the next patch. Get used to bugdiving
>>539243153>Stalwart shreds that thing if you literally move your curso-ACK!
>>539243181Yeah, its a common issue ever since the bug cave update
>>539243181yes the game has been in a broken state for over a month. bots crash your game. game has a persistent memory leak that makes you start stuttering after around 1hr 30min. audio bugs. numerous other performance bugs.
Speargun is kind of fucking amazing ngl.
>>539243252>>539243270even if you're spraying legs through walls of fire coming back at you congrats you still gimp your support slot to only killing mediums and below....
>>539242128full
>>539243584>Shittier railgun
>>539242931>can't even effectively run any MG on diggers because they're a loadout check for explosives.Try again.
>>539243643>crossbow + MMG doesn't existokay
>>539243637railgun can't interrupt a charging fleshmob or charger
>>539243412>>539243445>>539243540damn, alright
>>539243584slower than using railgun with the added bonus that it can close holes/fabs and gets less ammo from supply packs. The gas rarely even affects enemies that it doesn't directly hit due to the swedefucked status affects
>>539243609But it's better than the MMG.
>>539243643bro your frags? your loyalist? your GP? your eruptor?
>>539243609then equip some other grenade or secondary to compensate that your support weapon is only light pen. you have stuff like ultimatum and thermites. hell, you even have other red/green strategems that can kill heavies.
>>539238620>patch tomorrow
>>539243737the speargun cant kill 6 enemies without needing another supp pack
>>539243734Swapping weapons between an explosive primary and an MG is not using either to any efficiency. MG excels when you can just lay down lead and things die; it's sustained fire. The explosives are there to either make them surface or exclusively deal with those threats. If you're using the crossbow, you might as well just kill them as they're coming out instead of swapping around.
>>539243643It sure is weird that AH keeps forcing everybody into an explosive and AT meta
>>539243858ok sweety
>>539243357I could see a stalwart for illuminate when you have an erupter as your primary, but otherwise yeah.>>539242818So I'm a grugbrain, but when I was looking it up I saw that https://helldivers.wiki.gg/wiki/Bile_Spewer says guys are 2 light armor but 3 medium on extreme. Does that mean at extreme difficulties bugs have higher AV? Not that a higher AV type spawns, but that literally their AV increases?
>>539244025The Rupture bugs are also coming up for your teammates too, and they often start unburrowed from breaches.
>>539243153>>539242352I don't know if these people are idiots or trolls
>>539244162Yes, Bile Spewer is (I think?) the only enemy in the game to actually change values on difficulty. Technically the Scout/Reinforced Scouts too but they are mostly different enemies.
>>539241874Then why does it have 100 grams of MASS??? Why does it have a gravity modifier of 200% for it's WEIGHT?
>>539243953>compensatethere we go
>>539244004Neither can the railgun because I can't aim
HMG is easily the worst since they added war striders. In theory it's good on bugs but you can't get reloads off without getting raped
>>539243913>fragsLegit argument except when they catch you up close, long fuse time makes them less reliable and more prone to self damage. >loyalistWeapon swapping to kill a warrior is dumb. Bile Spewers maybe. Even then it's still clunkier than just running explosives to deal with them.>GPNot running Ultimatum if you have a MG support is just silly. Supply pack gives you a lot of charger removal. >eruptorJust kill whatever comes out instead of swapping...
>>539243380>what is EAT
None of the support weapons in the game are good.
>>539244282I'll spoonfeed it to you then since you simply can't understand. The digger has gaps between the armor, just like the hive guard but with even more space, where you can move your mouse to hit another spot that will kill it. You must be one of those pubs that panic shoot everything center mass and hopes it works
RR is the only good support weapon
>>539244308Bro, are you only using RR to kill chaff and never using grenades or primaries?
>>539244572Recoilless Rifle has been solving every problem in the game since it launched
What's the point of light pen on bots when medium pen can also score easy kills via headshots?
>>539244290I said Alexus argues that. I didn't say that he's correct.If you haven't caught on yet, Alexus just does whatever the fuck he wants. He often thinks that things should be deliberately shit, and hates when he thinks something might be too popular. When he can't justify his shit take, he just defaults to claiming that the decision was made because of "realism."
>>539244453HMG can break the the joints fairly well desu. wear recoil reducing armor, preferably fortified.also it's probably the worst of the MGs for bugs
>>539244701What is the point of hamburgers without cheese? It would make it a different thing.
>>539244453Bugs have almost no enemy you actually want to use the HMG against, what the fuck are you talkin about
>>539244635No I'm picking things that aren't one trick ponies so that I'm well-rounded to handle anything I need to
>>539244645>solving every problem in the game since it launchedyou must be a post-60 day patch playerit was dogshit that needed 2 shots to kill a hulk, or 1 to the face. everyone on the bot front picked stun nades + autocannon to 2-shot the hulk's face
>>539244701Shitters who can't handle recoil. Light pen is a crutch.
>>539244453>make heavy penetration weapon>make every heavy armor thing have high durable>make heavy armor penetration weapon have low durable damageI don't understand the logic
>>539244610To be fair, you're not supposed to use supports without explosive damage on diggers, so it makes little difference if you use the stalwart or the AMR against them because they are untouchable either way.
>>539244701med pen cause bots to flinch, meaning you'll likely miss the head more and end up spraying around the head til the torso dies. Light pen doesn't cause flinch because it bounces off armor , making the heads easier to spray/burst. Med pen is stil more universally handy, light pen is more rewarding to someone who wants to aimlarp
>>539244502>>539243380Sometimes I unironically run commando on predator strain missions solely because I want a disposable way to close a bunch of holes while leaving my primary free to be a staggering shotgun, my backpack free for whatever I feel like using that day, and my sidearm for the talon so that I can shoot things beyond shotgun range.
>>539244885So you bring AC, WASP or Epoch?
>>539244701Light pens usually come with less recoil, more ammo, and better ergo. Makes headshots more consistent. I just like them more I guess. Somehow the Adjudicator always feels like I'm spraying and praying but the Liberator feels like I can burst and nail the headshot every time. Or just bring a Diligence.
>>539244882The HMG can spray through every heavy bug's armor....wtf are YOU talking about
>>539244901actually I quit playing after the 60 days patch didn't actually fix shitif you were dropping stun grenades on them (like everyone was) you could use anything to kill them, including RR, since you had all the time in the world to line up the oneshot. It was definitely weaker against launch bots sure, but it still answered every problem. Launch autocannon shit itself on Bile Titans even harder than it does now.
>>539244762And I said he's insane because the game itself says he's wrong. Like, he's literally arguing against the game. For him to be right, plasma would have to have 0g mass, 0% drag and 0% gravity modifier.
>>539245110>shoot heavy dev with my MG>it flinches>still shoots back with 100% accuracy while flinchingI'm 100% sure the suppressive fire only works against chaff bots, and flinching devs is an active downside because it makes hitting weakpoints much harder
>>539245205you simply lack the brain cells, do not reply to me anymore
>>539245291>shooting charger legs with the reloadable EAT
>>539245279>let me deal 35 damage at 750 rpm against charger behemoths and bile titants!WTF are you doing???
>>539244289Warriors and Hunters get increased health starting at Challenging difficulty.
>>539245279how new
>>539245020>not supposed tosays who?>they are untouchable either wayI literally just explained it.... you can kill diggers with anything >>539244610the retards in here today man I swear
>>539245305Alexus sucks at his job and doesn't understand the systems he's in charge of. He has said on record that the players know the game better than he does. It's insane he still has a job but he must have the fucking Epstein file on Shams and Pilestedt.
Non bug divers are pathetic.
>>539245438I accept your concession.
>>53924545960% of the reason I took a year long break from this game were the devs being so fucking retarded to not lean into the "shoot charger leg" meta the community embracedI'm still fucking pissed more guns can't take them down that way. Just make the legs MEDIUM ARMOUR YOU SWIGGERS
>>539242296Servants has the only things that actually change how you play from this list in the Ultimatum being a AP5 secondary and the funny nuke backpack for jammers. Patriots has decent guns in it that are sidegrades to things you've already got in the Tendy and Purifier, but they don't allow you to do anything you couldn't with other guns.
>bugchasers making fun of squiddiversthats a new low, holy shit. even for them.
>>539245608They are untouchable by any non explosive damage while they are burrowing, ergo, penetration doesn't even matter.
>>539245641>doing the MOlollmao, evenget to work wagie, i want those medals in my desk by today
>>539245641imagine saying this after daddy joel had to gift bugniggers a victory in an MO lmao
He's so paper skinned and a pussy to reply directly lmao
>>539245820youre actually retarded
>>539245641Seashell is one of the designated SC farming planets right now
>>539245305He's not trying to make an argument in good faith. Here's what I'm pretty sure happened:>early on, a decision was made that first the Scorcher and later the plasma punisher/loyalist/purifier shouldn't have demo force since it would be kind of crazy if those primary/secondary weapons with deep magazines could destroy spawners.>alexus gets it into his head that this means that ALL PLASMA WEAPONS FOREVER should have fuckall demo force>he does not consider for an instant that there are tons of examples of different types of weapons gaining demo force once scaled up to stratagem weapons>he does not consider for an instant how dumb that it is that a big fuckoff plasma cannon that cracks open tanks is stopped cold by a conex shipping container>he just knows that once upon a time they decided that the smaller scale plasma weapons wouldn't have demo force, so he applies that same "logic" to the epoch cannon.>When questioned about why it does not have demo force, he has no argument to defend the position. So he just starts bullshitting and says that it's due to in-universe realism reasons. Now fuckoff you stupid plebians. He's supposed to be word of god. How dare you question his excellence?They need to spray him down with the water hose again and banish him to the surmstrumung basement for another 6 months.
>>539244289Alright so it's just them, thanks. I was going to be shocked if it was all bugs, but we play exclusively on impossible to super helldive so I can't really recall otherwise. It does explain why spewers are so tanky in my experience unless you go for a doggystyle shot on their ass.>>539244813Yeah, it felt like with bugs that anything really heavy you weren't going to penetrate with the HMG (I expect there's some tiny ass joint that might be worthwhile, but it might be vulnerable to an MMG in that case). I love it for bots, I liked it for Illuminate.>>539245693That was a real peak swigger arrogance innit? Very clever, very reasonable strategy - it makes sense and it's fun rather than just rodeo-clown to the rear. Then get slapped and told "No you play the way we tell you to". I just thermal them and play the rodeo clown, unless it's on hive planets when I bring fire impacts so I guess I'll just run around until someone else takes care of one. Or keep zapping it in the ass for a century
>>539245693I enjoyed stuff like leg meta and belly rubbing dogs.Buffing AT was a mistake.
>>539244610From the front you can see the head legs and arms. Nothing that you can shoot with ap2 unless you go prone. The entire body is light armor but a lot of the time you cant see any of it.
>>539245641The entire playerbase is pathetic. The collective doesn't give a shit about the war, MOs, or what planet is best to focus on. I help new players a lot because they're fun and still have some dumb LARP in em (vets are just burnt out and tired) and while I love them... They're fucking STUPID. Like, the average diver in this game is actually retarded. They're abl bunch of dad and bro gamers that could not give a half a shit about anything other than shooting things until they die and teamkilling for the quick laugh. They will NEVER give a shit about liberating a planet or any other galactic war shit. They barely give a fuck about mission objectives.
>>539245895>no proofconcession accepted, big oof you need to learn not to seethe so easily 'tard.
b___ lives matter
>>539245820What MO?
>>539222267Been playing more bugs and the difficulty that I play at is around d6 and most of the time it's fine, but as of late it feels completely random. It's either a walk in the park or there's so many enemies on screen that you just get instantly overrun. Still winning but it's certainly not fun.
>>539246069We have not forgotten your failure, bugnigger
>>539245641LETS GOOOOO WE'LL GET IT IN A MONTH
>>539246065>*massive fart sound*
>bugchaser mad that I didnt give him a (You)>again
>>539246065did you know nothing you do actually matters
>>539242852Why are you upset, fagman?
>>539244878a hamburger with cheese is a cheeseburger
>>539246065The person I play with considers an operations aimed if we don't extract, even if we beat the objectives, to the point where they'll abandon an operation halfway through to start a different one if we die
>>539246065didnt read keep seething DOE
>>539246526actually it would be a royale du fromage
>>539245992the crazy part is I've never talked to anyone who didn't like it, because it was actually FUN to do have to do a combo like armour strip > meat removal. If bugs actually had design like that they'd be 100x more interesting.But nope, railgun nerfed because of a bug half the players and all the devs weren't even fucking aware of at the time. You will ONLY kill the charger in the designated fashion and only AFTER you suffer for weeks with no answer to them so we will buff the AT to one shot them.It's kind of funny that the charger leg meta still technically exists but the only place I know of that it's actually the best strategy is the Patriot exo, and that's purely because they assfucked its missile damage from a one-shot for no fucking reason. But hey it feels cool to rocket a leg and minigun the remains. Shame the Emancipator outshines it though and these fucks won't let me take both mechs.
>>539246642Didn’t know you spoke arabic, anon
This liberation system is beyond retarded
>>539246642speak a lil chinese for em derek
>>539246902AHHH PUTAIN*PTOO PTOO*
>>539246995Does Allah know you browse 4chan
>botschizo is back and is still retarded
>>539245812I kill them all the time while they're burrowing with GL, GP, crossbow, eruptor, mechs, etc.....burrowing spewers too. Are you sure you're play the same game? Maybe verify your files and delete your shader cache
>>539246714Leg meta is still sort of useful against impalers when you encounter an autistic one that refuses to deploy the tentacles.
>bugchaser fighting botdiver bogeyman in his head again>again>again
>>539246714I didn't use RG that much on release, i just used EATs to strip legs.
>>539246960>a planet with more people on it makes more progress than a planet with less people on itWhat's wrong with that?
>>539247148the muzzies love to fuck little boys and marry little girls so I'm sure he condones it
Adjust your glasses 4 eyes, lmao
>>539247315>"Sar you need 0.42 liberation impact to do dis. You only have 0.409, sar."
>>539247302I seem to recall EATs being a rarity til the one shot was solidified, so many people were using the RG though it's my memory. For me? It was the arc thrower of rapid firing.
>>539246960Damn botcels are pathetic
>shoot - pushed away>shoot - pushed away>shoot - pushed awaythis feels so bad man they always ruin my day fuck the slugger & every shotgun what a sick joke.Not the M90A though that one is cool.
>>539247525What?
>>539247180>They are untouchable by any non explosive damage>I kill them all the time while they're burrowing with GL, GP, crossbow, eruptor, mechs, etcBait or illiterate?
>>539247287they'll never stop hallucinating justifications for their argument that no one even cares about
>>539247559man, it used to be great. it used to blow off crate doors too.
>>539247180>they are untouchable by non-explosives>"i kill them all the time with explosives!"Take my (you)
>>539247559shoot it's head or legs off numbnuts
>he’s samefagging nowOh wow lmoa
>>539247539I locked in EATs and AC in the first week and have been eating good ever since.
>>539247601>>539247556
>>539247629he same person didn't say both of things. you are the illiterate one. moron. and yes you can kill them while they burrow with explosives. they literally die underground and you can hear their scream
>>539247559>can’t into clipping the legsheh
>>539247559try the HALT
>>539247916I spent a while after they murdered the arc thrower running nothing but the AC. Having gotten back into it though I don't like it as much, mostly because I like the backpack options too much.
>>539248069>Shooting the leg off makes it move faster
>>539248038
This is a lobby.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243999226296/76561198024623656You should join!
>>539248206mmm nyo
>>539247869>"surely there cant be people out there that dont like my schizo episode where I blame all my lifes problems on botdivers!"
>>539247629>>539247853>probably samefag but whatevYou kids are actually brainless... here is what was said in case you can't keep up. >you can kill them with any nonexplosive while they are ABOVE ground>you can kill them with explosives while they are UNDERGROUNDI think you idiots just imagine words to think that you are some kind of 7d chess winner or something. You can't be this retarded and know how to use a computer
>>539248015I dont understand
>>539247559I have a hypothesis that shotguns are falling prey to the "round down to zero" bleedout bug through a combo of excess drag, low projectile mass and low durable damage.
>>539248302>>539245812>They are untouchable by any non explosive damage while they are burrowing, ergo, penetration doesn't even matter.>>539247180>I kill them all the time while they're burrowing with GL, GP, crossbow, eruptor, mechs, etc.....burrowing spewers too. Are you sure you're play the same game?
>>539248314>>539248015
>>539248423Why are you replying like this? I don't understand hoe what I said was incorrect or anything like that
>>539248491other anon is a schizoid, don't worry about it
>>539248491>>539248015
>>539247559>shoot the head off>still hits you
>>539248302>They are untouchable by any non explosive damage while they are BURROWING>I kill them all the time while they're burrowing with GL, GP, crossbow, eruptor, mechs, etc
>>539248345After some soul searching I've concluded that the AMR is the shotgun I want to use on the bugs. Try it you can play duck hunt with the rupture spewers by blowing their heads off.
>>5392482062/4
>>539248345why in the fuck do shotguns have low durable damage anywaystheir entire purpose is to shred meat
>>539237385Harpoon gun will stop it in its tracks. Bonus of the gas makes it turn around you can shoot it through the ass into the thorax for a 1-shot kill. It also fliches titans to keep them from spitting.
>>539248624The marksmen/sniper rifles being the best shotguns is insane and I hate it.
>>539231889>What exactly do you think you're killing in one shot vs multiple when compared to the DCS,overseer heads and voteless chests blowing right through their bleedout HP
>Hes using months old baitThis time people will take it, right?
>>539248728Durable damage is a stat that Arrowhead uses to make our guns suck in practical use for their peashooter fetishes while using the leaked Big Damage numbers on the stat cards to sell warbonds. No, I will not give you my sources.
>>539248602>>539248398>not the same personwow you are that dumb.... I've had to spell out multiple things for you now. I'm done. You will eventually forget to eat and starve yourself to death
>>539248946No source needed for something so true.
Tomorrow's patch will be one of the most defining patches in the games history...
>>539248206Three outta four just need one more.
>>539249012hey cool but you should try reading sometime
>>539249068>scenario A:>the fix dumb shit that no one even noticed or cared about>known issues remain>game unplayable>scenario B:>there is no patch
>>539249265heh, you wish A was going to be that good
Explain durable damage to me...
>>539249012you erased too much off the first post number
>>539249359secondary health pool and damage stat that exists to tell you to use explosive weapons
>>539247539In the beginning it was light medic or scout armour, RG, and diaper shield. It wasn't even OP it was just highly mobile and ignored armour. Even at the time there were better options despite how unreliable all the AT was. Today anyone using that combo is always a turboshitter even less reliable as a teammate than before the buff patches.
>70k players lost in less than a monthDivesisters...
I've been playing BL4 while I wait for a good patch...
>>539249359One off the "50 invisible stats™" that make your gun suck without making it clear why.
>>539249359>>539248728Durable is the "this enemy is only vulnerable to AT weapons" stat. Shotguns are not AT weapons, so they have shit durable. The higher the durable, the more explosive or AT the weapon needs to properly affect them.
>>539249359it's like the enemy has a second secret health pool on the part you're shooting that only lets you do a certain % of your actual damage to it
>>539249427It wasn't OP at all it just happened to be the one weapon that could do damage to everything in the game at that point and had the super duper handy bug of OHKing things when you got a PS4 player in your lobbyThe shield was literally never a problem and their nerf to it was the dumbest fucking shit
Will there be a patch tomorrow? If so, will it fix all the glaring performance issues? Will swiggers continue to be useless monkeys?
>>539249615Maybe, no and yes
>>539249615Ah, shit. Gotta eat dinner.
>>539248206We are full!
>>539249427>Even at the time there were better optionssuch as? I never saw anyone use any other types of armor
>>539249359If your weapon does 90 damage, 30 durable damage and you shoot something that's 50% durable, you get to keep the durable damage and the rest is cut by 50% so 60.If you shot something 100% durable 30 damage is all you get.
>>539249615hold on my dinner's getting cold
>>539249545Look at this loser, playing video games in his schoolband uniform.NERD!
>Shamshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN528JgUtic
>>539249359A gun feels good when you shoot devastator heads then you take it to bugs and it sucks
>>539249615>Will there be a patch tomorrow?Perhaps>will it fix all the glaring performance issues?lol>Will swiggers continue to be useless monkeys?Is this even a question?
>>539249545lay off the e711
>>539249359the shotgun that claims to do 385 damage actually only does 110 or even 55 if you're shooting a durable object because they have separate damage values for those, case in point being halt versus the medpen parts of a tank
POV you asked Shams if there's gonna be a performance fixhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mLyl7ECwso
>>539249449because everyone knows how dogshit and undeliverable swedes are. Even the tourists just show up to try the new thing, then leave shortly after because it's unfun or doesn't fucking work right
>>539249449hey that's meI showed up to check it out again because it sounded like things had gotten better and cool shit was happeningthat was a fucking lie everything is actually not better at all
>took 1 level 20 and 2 level 50 anons from another general>brought them with me in a super helldive operation on Oshaune (they still hadn't played the new patch or seen a hivelord/dragonroach)>by the 3rd mission nobody died, we killed a Hivelord and we fully cleared the operation>then we full cleared a bots ICBM super helldive without dying as 3/4And there are retards out there that think the game is challenging.
>>539249845>>539250009POV you made the same dumb post twice with different words
Brooooos 50 gig patch confirmed tomorrow
>>539249739Better options for the railgun. Armour was bugged at the time to all have the same values except for speed so everyone ran light armour. You just know someone that runs light armour, a shield, and still feels they need extra stims is a shitter though. The whole point of light armour is to not get hit.
>>539249359it don't matter. just shoot the bugs/bots/squids.
>>539250250>50 gigs>no new content>no fixes >3 new NPC crew voice lines
>>539250202What do you gain by making things up?
>>539250202post proof
>>539250378>new audio for orbital smoke
>>539249545where's your cape silly boy
>>539250241Shut up it's funny
>>539250470>new orbital smoke audio now causes sound crash
>>539250476He didn't pass basic training.
>>539250202I don't understand how anyone can have difficulty outside of something like being unprepared for the hivelord and it showing up at extract. As long as you have someone to explain the basics of JUST KEEP FUCKING MOVING D10 isn't hard with a team in the slightest.
>>539250417I'm not making it up, the game is just that simple if you have a good coach and non-braindead players.>>539250457You forgot your soijak>>539250714Exactly. The game is so fucking simple, and yet there are people out there that can't grasp such basic concepts, it's baffling.
Dragon spawns so often because Sweden in their infinite wisdom just replaced shrieker patrol with them
I have earned 830 SC just through grinding, normal play and Helldivers Mobilize and own the full Hellbent set and the Dredd helmet, those swedecucks will NEVER get another dime out of me
soi sauce & wasabi are salt & pepper
>>539249545>band geek>gamer>mime>recruit
>>539251181https://youtu.be/C6ORYznSk44
50 gig patch, jesus.
>>539228505They need to fix the terrain for those to work. There is literally like a rock that can roll a vehicle every 15 yards.
I WILL level my constitution up to level 25 and paint it yellow and you CANNOT stop me
>>539251291Is the patch actually 50 gigs because if so I am going to kill myself, no way am I going to have a 200 gb game clog up my ssd
>>539251537no one is falling for it retard, give up.
>>539251264buy an ad
>looked it up>actually 50gb patchIt's so over.
>>539248728>>539249553The problem is when Alexus is retarded and makes certain hitboxes highly durable when THEY SHOULDN'T BE HIGHLY DURABLE. Looking at charger butts, gunship engines, and war strider hip joints in particular.
>>539251576nigga I'm just asking because I'm not on trooncord fuck you
>>539250250>>539251291>>539251537>this is the point at which a shitposter doesn't get the amount of attention they want so they start replying to themselves
>>539247539/hdg/ hosted a devoted cult of EAT enjoyers who became very adept at both the leg meta and the forgotten art of sticking chargers with the EAT beacon to crush them with the EAT pod.
>he doesn't know
>>539251691I disagree on charger butts. They should be highly durable and I like how it works for them. Not gunship engines or war strider hips though, those should get hammered down to reasonable values.
>>539249068Time for a PREDICTIONS postSUPER COPIUM SWEDISH RESERVE >rupture warrior tracking fixed, a well timed dive will get you out of range and there is no more lock on, but it will no longer emerge early like it does with non hosts currently >rupture Spewers can now be staggered while popped up>all rupture bugs have a limited time they can be burrowed and a longer cooldown to when they can burrow again>rupture bugs now have their tails stick up while burrowing, so any weapon can cause them to surface>dragon spew inconsistency fixed and no longer has invisible pools of damage>dragon hitbox synced up and flinch animation removed. >fixes for bot crashes and stutters>fixes for stalker pathing in cave nests >fixes for stratagems and objectives landing in cave ceilings or picking ONE spot to land in a cave hole. >fix for loading screen going to 5fps>fixes for all the sound issues>general performance uplift by optimizing volumetric fog and using proper particle culling techniques to scale with amount produced>file bloat on PC reduced>fix for DoT not working >100m from host>buff to stun and DoT values to exceed their former power levels REALM OF POSSIBILTIY>fix the rupture warrior by making their lock on behavior apply to everyone >fix a few crashes nobody encountered (they made these up to make it look like they're fixing things)>fix the dragonroach spew hitbox but now it does no damage and only sets you on fire so it's really hard to tell if they actually did fix it or not. >file size increase >objectives now path correctly in caves but the extract beacons get worse and pelicans take 1+min to path into landingREALITY>nothing because sweden>or fixes that don't actually work and we wait another week
>>539251910> the forgotten art of sticking chargers with the EAT beaconhonestly you just made me realize I haven't done this in ages. You used to have to considering the sheer fucking amount of chargers D9 would throw at you.
>>539251537>he doesn't just put it on an HDDEvery lobby almost always has atleast one person holding the loading times back anyway, might aswell be you aswell.
why can fleshmobs turn on a dime even after you unload on their stupid little legs
>>539252063>he still owns an HDD that's permanently attached to his computergramps...
>bugsissies: "e-excuse me, mr arrowhead sir? can we get a cape for the cave bug planet. I-if thats okay, I mean...">Arrowhead: https://youtu.be/Mg02NzsXrJk?si=Hq-Ir0gU3PXOjZ4u&t=6
>>539252090same reason chargers can decide to do a 180 without losing momentumfuck you
>>539252090Because FUCK YOU, dinnertime.
>>539251975>tldrswedes aren't fixing anything. Anything they do fix they break something elsewhere. The game is finished
>>539251938I think that the charger butts should be easier to destroy with small arms, but the bleedout shouldn't be so immediate. Alternatively I'd like to see MASSIVE increases to durable damage for pretty much all light pen weapons. Light pen weapons are presumably using hollowpoint or other similar rounds. They should absolutely fuck up anything thin skinned enough that they can pen.
>Arrowhead when someone asks them if theyre going to unfuck PC performance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mLyl7ECwso
>>539251975>>or fixes that don't actually work and we wait another week2 weeks, state mandated dinner break
>>539252142Yes, and i make everyone else suffer for it aswell.
>>539252024I still remember how there were tons of posters in the threads who were insistent that we were either lying about sticking chargers with the EAT beacon, or that it was an entirely impractical feat that was wholly unfit for usage in real combat.
who the fuck said gas grenades were bug meta, you absolute retard!
>>539249068Only because it will fix absolutely nothing and finally kill the game
>>539251691War Strider joints piss me off especially because they're such a tiny ass piece of moving metal supporting a really heavy thing and it requires an unreasonable amount of firepower to break. It shouldn't be anti-tank, it should literally be destroyable with focused medium pen machinegun fire because it's so flimsy.>b-but m-uh balance! it'd be too easy!Yeah then don't design such badly designed opponents. I can't wait for the day where instead of a shitty fucking walker or a tank that is utterly a non-issue due to 1km/h speed a proper IFV rolls up on me, AP4 but with many components durable as fuck (and for good reason since IFVs are mostly empty space and non-critical components inside) and the bratty Stronghold turret on top.
>>539252508they close holes and immediately stop all but BTs... unless they're committed to an animation
>>539249359jesus not a single factual reply. the posts saying durability has represents a separate healthpool are especially wrong.here's what durable damage and durability actually is, mechanicallyevery weapon has its listed normal damage value and an unlisted "durable damage" value. every enemy part has a "durability" value, ranging from 0% to 100%. most chaff have 0% durability so this never applies to them, while most heavies have 70% to 100% durability. when you shoot an enemy the amount of damage you actually do to them is determined by the ratio between your weapons normal damage and its durable damage and the durability of the part that is hit. You can calculate the damage based on this formula: actual damage = (weapon's normal damage*(1-durability as a decimal value))+(weapons durable damage*part durability as a decimal value)Let's use the liberator as an example. It does 80 normal damage and 15 durable damage. if you shoot a warrior in the head with the liberator you will do 80 damage (not taking into account drag and damage falloff but that has absolutely nothing to do with durability), as the warrior head has a durability of 0%, so the liberator does 100% of its normal damage and 0% of its durable damageIf you shoot an charger in the ass you will do 28 damage as the charger's ass has a durability of 80%, as against the ass the liberator does 20% of its normal damage plus 80% of its durable damage, so 16 normal damage + 12 durable damage. using the formula you would calculate it as (80*(1-0.8))+(15*0.8)practically almost everything you shoot at with your primary has no or low durability so non-explosive primaries low durability isn't much of a factor to their performance, while generally everything you need anti-tank weapons for have high durability but anti-tank weapons almost always have 100% durable damage ratios so durability isn't a factor for them either. the importance of durable damage is massively overblown in this general
>>539252269I personally think charger asses being a bullet soak makes sense, even a human can take a bullet to the ass with relatively minor problems, I'm sure they have some bullshit in there but it makes sense to me it's got a lot of non-vital meat that should take a 30~round magdump to pop. I think they should have medium armour on their legs though. And I think stuff like shotguns and SMGs/pistols should absolutely eviscerate durable, while ARs/DMRs have a bit less durable but good penetration.
>>539252583At least they're hiring 3 guys to fix everything
>>539251781xbox got a new pre-update for tomorrow
>>539252745>And I think stuff like shotguns and SMGs/pistols should absolutely eviscerate durable, while ARs/DMRs have a bit less durable but good penetration.I think that this is the core of the problem. There should be weapons with very high durable damage that fucks shit up if it pens. But Alexus has perverted the stat and turned it into an "you don't technically need an AT weapon to damage this, but in practice you definitely need an AT weapon to damage this". Or explosives, since for some reason plain old high explosives is exempt from durability.
>>539252745bugs typically have most if not all their organs in their ass>>5392530171. lol2. lmao3. if those three people are real they'll be incompetent saars
>>539252685>practically almost everything you shoot at with your primary has no or low durabilityinteresting claim, but not actually true
>>539251291>>539251626>>539250378fug u it's only a 23 gig patch
>>539253216Can't be any more incompetent than the swede saars>>53925345123 on console is 80 on PC
>>539252685>while generally everything you need anti-tank weapons for have high durabilityChicken before the egg here. We need AT weapons to take them down BECAUSE Alexus went and slathered 80-100% durability all over the fucking place. Not because they're intrinsically things that should require AT weapons to kill.Back to the gunship example. Jet/turbine engines are PRETTY FUCKING FRAGILE and aircraft have very little mass budget to allocate to armoring components due to them needing to be light enough to fly. There is no reason whatsoever that the mass of delicate moving parts should be god damn EIGHT FIVE PERCENT (85%) durable.
>>539253169>Or explosives, since for some reason plain old high explosives is exempt from durability.because durable damage is supposed to represent how efficient the bullet or shot or weapon is at transferring its energy into the target. explosives are very good at transferring its energy, so as a result explosives do all of their damage as durable damage, semi-explosive weapons like plasma do 50% of their damage as durable, and inert projectiles like a bullet does 25% to 10% of its damage as durable damage
>>539253451>th-this time people will fall for itwhat are you fucking doing with yourself
>>539253695>explosives are very good at transferring its energy,They're not. Explosives waste a considerable portion of their energy on the surrounding environment instead of on the target. If you look at modern munitions for engaging hard targets, they're all either kinetic energy penetrators or shaped charges intended to concentrate all force in one direction.
>>539253695brother you just said the opposite of reality
>>539251975Reality: >Rupture Warriors are now guaranteed instakills for everyone, not just the host>fixed an issue where the Solo Silo could kill large enemies>nerfed the Coyote because fuck you>POI loot now only spawns when the bunker/container is opened, no arrows for you>increased Pineapple grenade stock by 33%>fixed an issue where the Speargun was releasing gas on hit
>>539253315>almost>>539253670>generallynice to see words that were specifically included to prevent making blanket statements are conveniently ignored.
>>539254034reality or "Alexus reality"?
>>539254072>>increased Pineapple grenade stock by 33%man this one actually would suck, cause they'd call it a day and never fix it for a year
>>539254072>SC no longer freely farmable lmao get fucked
>>539254084>practically almost>uuuhhhh the weaseling! didn't you see the weaseling! I used two of them so you could see how weasely I am!Durable damage is relevant to about a third of the enemies in the game retard
>>539254001>>539254034clarification: explosives are good at apply their energy to large volume bodies compared to small, tiny projectiles. the idea is the blast wave makes contact with a large portion of, if not the entire surface instead of only a small portion of it
Latex divers assemble and report for duty
Hellbros...
>Jet enginesshould not be durable>Squishy abdomens full of vital organsshould not be durable>a big pile of fleshy meatshould not be durable>gattling guns with exposed control wires and ammunition beltsshould not be durable, or immune to explosives
>>539254485considering the current state of the game it should have double digit players, but the base gameplay is still too much fun
I've witnessed the game dip below 20k at the height of alexus retardation this ain't shit
>>539254253What do you mean?We fixed s bug that was causing it to have less stock than intended, it's perfectly balanced now. :)>insert discord fags here saying that it's actually the best grenade ever because you can kill a single Hulk if you stuff all 4 grenades up its ass or something
>>539254626god willing we'll head there again by christmas
>>539254485damn the chinks know how to duplicate player numbers now too
>quickplay>City map>quickplay>city map>quickplay>city map>quickplay>city map
>>539254485>downward trendit's mega overEOS soon
>>539254693Shit, we'll probably get there by Halloween depending on how things go. Can't wait for the 90 Day Patch, trust ze plan.
>>539254782>quickplay>bricks mission
>bots>city map>night timeaaaah, gaming time
>>539254884I like the defense, I can just plop down my sentries and browse /hdg/
>never shoot primary>run between objectives spamming warp pack, grenade launcher and ultimatumHow do I stop being so retarded?
>>539254782>No faction filter>No mission filter>No filter for colonies/cities>20 second cool down on searching manually >If you QP, realize it's some trash like defense or eradicate you have to sit through the entire cryopod animation then walk all the way back to the war table >Most of the time it quick plays you into some random mission that's about to endAt least it's cool you can QP the entire galactic war and it will dump you on some bumfuck sub 100 person planet, adds some variety
>>539249553>>539249574>>539249763>>539252685,,,,and where do they tell you about this in game?
>>539255054remove crutch pack
>>539255102
Heavy armor is good!?
>>539254283targets you will typically be shooting at with your primary (or support-as-primaries like the M/HMG) that have high durability>bugsbrood/alpha commmander headsstalkers bodies (but not their heads)bile spewer asses (only if you don't have any medium pen or explosives)>botsgunship enginesfactory strider miniguns>illuminatestingraysharvester leg jointsyou're only shooting charger asses or tank heatsinks with your primary if you're bringing high durable damage semi-explosive primaries like plasma or the eruptor/crossbow. if you're trying to kill a tank or charger with your liberator penetrator I don't know what to say other than what a fucking waste of time and ammo
>>539255102That's the neat part, they don't.
>>539255151It's my favourite item in the game..
>>539255235It's alright but you'll probably want an FRV, Mech, or the Warp Pack so you aren't footslogging everywhere at the speed of slow.
>>539255054remove pocket nuke crutch and replace with literally anything else, preferably not the senator or talon eitherreplace warp pack with jump pack>>539255102>telling you things>devs being transparent with the player
>>539255151TBF all of the packs are crutches.Ballistic shield doesn't count though.
>>539255382>telling you things>devs being transparent with the playerlegitimately what the fuck is with this? When you make a video game do you get contacted by the god of vague bullshit that demands you not tell players what fucking stats mean? Almost every game pulls this shit. WOW COOL MY GUN DOES 90 DAMAGE WHAT DOES THAT EVEN FUCKING MEAN
>>539255382How will this fix my disdain for primary weapons?
>>539255794The only thing that will fix that is the blitzer.
>>5392557151. devs are lazies2. they like to deflect criticism by saying "giving players access to this info freely will let them optimize the fun out of their experience" or some such 'optimizing the fun out' copypasta in so many words3. "giving the player access to that info is unrealistic"4. bonus devcope: "dataminers figured it out so no need for us to change anything ;)"
>>539255794you will no longer be able to ignore encounters as easily
>>539254485>>539254609>>539254743>>539254794>Playercount andies
>>539255715>>539256421let's be fucking real, having that information on its own would do nothing for you, leading you back to the wiki anyway to look at enemy health and body part durabilityAH showing basic shit like base damage, capacity, fire rate, etc. is really all the player needs to get a decent idea of the gun
>>539257020>leading you back to the wiki anyway to look at enemy health and body part durabilitydamn if only we could have some kind of bestiaryif only anyone had ever thought of that in a game beforelike the predecessor to this one
give me a fucking shooting range already you rotten fish gobblers
>>539257020knowing durable dmg in the first place even exists as a mechanic would certainly help spread awareness
>>539255794It won't. Troons think having your support weapon do everything and take a strategem slot is "fun and interractive". Your primaries are your secondaries.Now you might ask what the point of your secondary is, and why you shouldn't just take ultimatum. This will upset them.
playercounts are dropping, release a slopbond NOW
>new primary>two handed melee>heavy armor pen>comes with a overcharge option that lets it become anti-tank for a short bit with stun status effect>penalties: no backpack slot, short range, takes a chunk of stamina with each hit (no stamina halves damage output.)>fast hitting Anons... your opinion?
>>539257394>no backpack slotwhy would you go and make it complete dogshit for no reason
>>539257373>>539256971
>cirrus at 20% liberation alreadybug divers sloooooow dooooown!
>>539257269I understand.Any recommendations for a primary that fills the role of a secondary well?Something with high handling, no charge time and a decent mag size?
>>539255514Based honest shieldGODS
I really don't get the deadeye.Can't keep a proper sight picture with the lever action, no interesting breakpoints and mid ergo with no options for attachments.
>>539257802usethefuckingblitzer
>>539257020>>539257105>>539257113>let's be fucking real, having that information on its own would do nothing for you>Hive worlds release>a dragon appears>the average pubbie doesn't know what durable damage is>they never looked at the wiki>they do remember that red hitmarkers mean that they're doing full damage against the armor>they're HELPING against the dragon roach>the thin membranous wings are 100% durable :^)>even if you destroy them entirely, it does nothing to inhibit its ability to fly :^)>let's be fucking real, knowing these facts about its damage model would do thing for youGet fucked Alexus.
>>539257802Torcher is good for that, stagger weapons are nice, and even the pacifier isn't TOO bad if you're setting up red strats / nades / fire. Usually I just take something that does what my support weapon doesn't.Like plasma kills heavies if I got a shit anti heavy support, or torcher to set fire walls for large groups of chaff.
woohoo got 4x for dominator. anyone here used it on bots?
>>539257787You dont know how the galactic war works
>>539258259Some people really love it, it's a little overkill for most bots though I'm pretty sure. It's overkill for a lot really, you want something else to deal with light enemies or else you're gonna run out of ammo insanely fast.
>>539258259Just use the ironsights, you need any scrap of ergo you can get.Also it beats up bots pretty hard, hitting your head shots is great but it's one of few guns that can also brute force enemies. Gunships are surprisingly hard because of the low velocity. Remember you can defang Factory Striders easily to save your ass.
>>539258206>wings are durablewait what the fuck
>>539258259I can't stand it because the bullets are slow as shitYou'd think rocket propelled bullets would go fast, but nah
>>539255514My jetpack is a crutch but this game feels so claustrophobic and unfun without it that I wish it was just built into our armor.
>>539258259peak physique that's valid, otherwise yeah just use irons. the bullets travel stupid slow so headshotting moving targets is a bitch, but you can center mass a lot of targets pretty easilly from afar.
>>539258730they're also 0% transfer to main bodyeveryone that thought shooting the wings did anything was clowned on by the king of clowns
>>539258743gyrojets were slower than traditional munitions by a noticeable degree, but the dominator is basically just firing paintballs. It's way too slow.
>>539258730and only apply 50% to main.So assuming your gun is 20% durable, you're only doing about 10% of your damage to the roach
>>539258743Which is silly because there is still a sizeable propellant charge (source: it ejects empty casings) that fires the bullet initially, which should make it go pretty fast and the rocket motor should speed it up as it goes on. It's akin to a 40k bolter in that way and not a gyrojet, since the latter were relying solely on rocket propulsion, being essentially low caliber rocket launchers.
>>539258978would you look at that, another 100% durable body part a shotgun or LMG SHOULD be the perfect weapon to annihilate
>>539258730Not just durable. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT DURABLE>>539258778>they're also 0% transfer to main bodyNo. The wings transfer 50% damage to the main body. They are however 80% (EIGHTY PERCENT) resistant to explosive damage. REALISMEALISM
Remember bot and squid divers?
I would very much like a Napalm grenade, but knowing my luck they'll just add another "incendiary with a twist" grenade instead.
I like the missile silo
>>539258978>patch note video tells us to shoot the wings>the wings barely transfer any damage>they're not even fatalEvery day I realize that hating swedes enough is impossible
So where can the hive lords be found?
>>539259191does anyone actually have the time stamp on when they said this?
>>539259172I like the missile. The silo shouldn't die to a stiff breeze.
>>539258487because we were smart and encircled itusing strategy in a war boggles the mind i know
>>539259172you like the missile silo because you think a rocket on the ground you call in is neat even if it's uselessI like the missile silo because I can teamkill everyone on my team at once from across the map while I'm soloing and they're failing to restart a generatorwe are not the same
>>539259235https://youtu.be/dJi8VsvnkoE?t=270
>>539258978It's pretty funny how you can spot very distinctly the diffetence between pre-release and post-release enemies. Most of Illuminate are... "fine", but then there's Fleshmobs. Most of Bots are fine but then there's War Striders. Most of Bugs are fine but then there's the Dragon. It's like the person that was responsible for actually creating different hit zones and weakpoints and everything else was fired and we just got a guy thay goes "yeah 100% durable everything because people complain the game is too easy".
>>539259229They should be on Oshaune.
>>539259315Remember when you all threw archird 3 because you all decided to not dive cities and your adhd demanded you all randomly abandon it afte rit was at 50%?
>>539223396Guys... I was maxing all the primaries and accidently fell in lust with the dickle. This thing is basically a laser HMG. The new dust devils armor is perfect for it as well. You don't need the full 75% resist since you don't usually even actually ignite with vitality. 40% is more then enough and then you got gas/acid/zap resist on top. Ready for dragon roaches, using inc impacts at point blank with impunity, and napalm barrages. It is a pretty tight package.
>>539258730Post-illuminate game design!!
>>539259445Chargers and Bile Titans have quite honestly never been fine and are too centralizing in loadouts from designFleshmobs are stupid but I almost respect what they were going for with it. Almost.
>>539259445>"yeah 100% durable everything because people complain the game is too easy".No. He's saying>Primary weapons are SUPPOSED TO BE BAD. Therefore these enemies are extremely durable so that you can't feasibly kill them with primary weapons.Instead of our primary weapons being our PRIMARY bread and butter.
>>539259172>single use 500/eat in practice>railcannon tiered cooldown>can die to a stiff breeze>will ragdoll you if you're within a ballpark radius of it>laser pointer is effected by stagger making you point it at the ground before dropping it>lacks the demo force of the 500But yeah I think it's cool tooFucks dogs like a better railcannon.
>>539259701>Fleshmobs are stupid but I almost respect what they were going for with it. Almost.Fleshmobs are fine until you trip into ~10 of them
