Where is his damn matchstick edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Trackerhttps://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>539171696
Mo is enslaved by Krill
>____ does nothing but farm the whole game and becomes OP and runs down everything>"Sounds like bad design to me">"HURR, THAT'S HOW MOBAS WORK, YOU CAN'T CHANGE HOW A MOBA WORKS, JUST ACCEPT IT"
>>539255304Kill this guy Mo
>>539255304massa krill skin when
I want a hero that has a different stamina/dash system.An Anti-Mage style hero that teleports instead of dashing would be cool
>>539255157I love the cap covering his eyes so much, proper goon
Ok bros, do you think melee oriented front liners should be allowed to become raid bosses? Or should characters like Shiv, Calico, Abrams etc just continue to fall off a cliff late game. I'd also like thoughts on Hotpoos characters, it seems like his experience in pve games is worthless because he's made 2 characters that are fun but terribly annoying to play against.
>>539255304proofs
>>539255451We need the yellow skinned audience
alright geist just clicked with me. why dont i see her more often? she has insane team fight damage
>>539255451Would be a good design if those heroes were *actually* weak in the early gameBut nope
>>539255526inshallah
>>539255157>tfw I forgot to change the "edition" taglinenobody nooootice
>power cuts mid match>get a 25 hour ban from playing the game
>>539255513abrams becomes one of the best anti carries in the game with phantom strike thobeit.
just played with a victor that i set up hard to win, won the lane for him and then let him solo farm while i took all of the enemy's slot machines and jungle camps.he was 15k ahead of everyone else in the game and just... kept farming while they took all of our objectives. he was just standing there farming the big camp in a sidelane as our last blue walker fell.the only time he got to join a fight was the last fight in the game where he died instantly because his build was fucking dogshit.imagine afk farming for 31 minutes just to lose before you even get to play the game.
>370mb nothingburger
https://gamebanana.com/mods/620442geistGODS...
>>539255815The first quit ban is 10 minutes, so it seems like you have been ragequitting.
>>539255946>not green>grotesque neck
>>539255986I quit 2 matches with no penalty then 10m and then 3h. Idk how many he did to get 25
>>539255986>literally don't ragequit>get a ragequitter penalty
>>539255157>get home>370mb updatealright whos asshole got gaped by the balance hammer this time
>>539255946post it Im not logging
>>539256371they didn't post shit so we don't know what changed.
>>539255909An anti-carry needs a lengthy hardstun to account for the possibility that the carry will be very tanky. I think Abrams' stun is too short and conditional
>>539256392just hit the proceed button bozo
>>539256323>have shitty net>leave games all the time>get penaltythe 3rd worlder does not understand
Character concept: Checkers, the Interplanar Taxi Driver. Kit is built around trying to have as much ultimate uptime as possible. >(Gun) Gritty Hornet: A Tommy gun/submachine gun best shot at medium range>(1) Hot Wheel- Start charging up a kick, then kick forward a burning tire. More charge = more distance. At low charge, knocks up, at max charge, stuns. At higher ranks, leaves a fire trail that grants allies a speed boost.>(2) Smog Screen- Start channeling, releasing smoke from a canister. The canister follows your path and hits enemies near you, causing them to choke, dealing DOT and increasing cooldowns. At higher ranks, it also reduces accuracy. The button can be pressed again to throw the canister as a projectile.>(3) Scrapyard- Passive. Around the map, Checkers can find pieces of scrap randomly laid about, adding to his scrap meter (see 4). He can also get scrap from dead enemies. In addition, he can find one-use items in the scrap, such as “Nitro Fuel” (Healing Rite) and “Fire Slick” (Alchemical Flask).>(4) Keys to the Bumblebee- Checkers gets in his spirit taxi. Instead of a cooldown, he has a meter he has to build by collecting scrap (see 3). The taxi grants a barrier and speed boost, and lasts until the barrier is destroyed. His (1) is replaced by “Spin Out” while active, which knocks enemies back. Allies can get in the taxi and shoot out the hood.
>>539256392Just click proceed you stupid nigger I just looked at it without issue
>>539256428thank you yoshi very cool
>>539255946Holy fucking giraffe neck>>539256392You don't need to log-in to see it, just click on "Proceed"
>>539255304Shut up Doorman
>teammates takes urn fight while enemy has rejuv and all get wiped>enemy takes patron & leaves>still have rejuv>team gets wiped a second time and we loseI hate this
>>539255946these marvel rivals ports are uncannyonly good one is the squirrel girl outfit on paige
>>539256598Why is this hag dressed like Luna Snow
just fought shiv. not fun hope it isnt a regular occasion
>>539256490>>539256551You could have posted it instead of bitching
>>539256467Not if you build gun. Enemy carry can't kill your team if its brains are coloring the nearby walls a nice cherry red>>539256524Why put 3 fire trails on a single hero? Also how is his ult going to work with the vertical mobility?
>>539255946Default outfit does a good job of hiding how contorted she is
>>539257060all test bots spawn in contorted for some reason, she isn't that bad
>that Paradox death sound>EUGHHH
>>539257034im not spending 2 minutes to post a fucking image you could have seen in 5 seconds if you had a braini will berate you however
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!THE DOORMAN FORCING YOU DOWN AND RIDING YOU UNTIL HE'S SATISFIED!!!
Doorman can put doors at spawn again.
>>539257047The tire fire trail doesn’t deal damage, just gives the speed boost, and the smoke trail doesn’t linger very long. The taxi can jump and wall jump like normal, it’s kinda a bouncy/toonish taxi.
>>539257435Doorman is a service top.
>>539257450>cant place all the way in the backeither way thank god it's back.
>Another patch with no notes
>>539257435Would you kindly kill yourself at your earliest convenience
>>539257407lazy nigger
>>539257596he's whatever is asked of his beloved guests to provide impeccable service. which may include being a top but that's not what my post was about this time
Want to climb to Eternus and do good on ladder, realistically how many characters should I learn? Just 1?
>>539257457Exactly, you're painting the map with multiple trails which all have different effects, how do you expect people to know which is which? I'll be honest, this doesn't look decent
>>539257964Seven, warden, infernus
>>539257964The easiest way to rank up is to play while you have a vibrating buttplug in your asshole (just make sure not to cum during a teamfight)
Is Drifter a vampire or just a crazy cannibal?
>>539258107I main doorman but also play viscous, unsure if I need to learn more but those two are already difficult
>>539258209crazy homeless vampire
>>539257596Damn imagine Geist using him like a living dildo
>already 1000 games injesus fuck
>>539258226Even eternus players can't win with doorman, viscous is comparable if you grind 500 games on him though
>>539258209homeless vampire leaning into the whole "creature of the night" thing
>>539257964depends which one characterif it's someone with very high use rate like haze, mina, infernus, lash and seven then you should learn 2-3 characters at minimum (also depends on the second character's popularity)if it's someone no one plays like mirage, sinclair and calico then yeah you can probably get away with just learning 1, but if it ever gets buffed you'll get it less often and get fucked so you should probably learn at least 2before the patch i only ever played ivy (not a very popular pick) and i got her basically 100% of the time, my second pick was lash (pretty popular) and third was mokrill (middle of the road)
>>539257964Use the tard-wranger 4000 inator to drag your teammates back when they are about to get picked off.Ez Eternus
So if Drifter is a Gangrel what’s Mina
>>539258680ventrue or toreador cammy scum
Billy sure is fun
>>539258061I understand your point but I feel like a tire track on the ground and a smokescreen look completely different. There’s already characters with 2 “ground” effects in the game (Paige, Kelvin)
>>539258226Doorman is incredibly reliant on his team so he’s dead in the water if the pendulum isn’t swinging in his favour, he has the highest mobility in the game so abuse that to push like a madman with the easiest escape in the game
>>539257047Gun is actually easier to build resistances against. One day you'll fight a team that builds those and your punches will deal no damage.
>>539258992Punches? Me? I have a cool big gun, I'm shooting a cool big gun.
>>539258992spirit/gun abrams are actually fairly viable. not strong enough to make him a real carry, but enough to disrupt their team when he's phantom striking their carry
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>539258209Old vampire who doesn't care about vampire politics and just wants to kill people
>>539259143Melees count as weapon damage, bullet resist applies to melee.
>just using Slow Hex on Mina bro>meanwhile she just out-trades you and any other gun character with her retarded ass gun + 3 passive healing her
>>539259234>3 passive healing herit doesn't
>>539259234>Retarded gunWorst gun in the game>3 passive healingDoesn't exist
>>539259234Then you sneeze on her and her liver flys out of her ass.She’s a squishy that stays squishy the entire match, as much as she annoys me she needs something going for her otherwise she’s just a whiny piñata with a retarded playerbase
>>539255645Are they on par with everyone after they've farmed or are they also broken OP?
>>539259523yea, I fucking hate mina but if she wasn't playable then the game would just devolve into whoever gets the mina on their team. her pickrate has not changed much either.
Why exactly is Mina so popular? Her kit isnt particularly interesting.Are waifufags really that simple?
>>539259171Memes aside is Haze even black? I understand she’s literally black but her actual race isn’t necessarily black
>>539258209>Is Drifter a vampire or just a crazy cannibal?there's a difference?
Who is the strongest and who is the weakest character lorewise?I figure The Doorman is the strongest and Billy the weakest.
>>539259232>Melees count as weapon damage, bullet resist applies to melee.wait, really? then what the hell is this dedicated "melee resist" stat, just a further bonus against it? does this mean stuff that lowers gun resist raises melee damage?
>>539260045Paige is a better waifu so no, just goonerfags play Mina
>>539260262Exactly. Melee resist is only for melee, but gun resist is both melee and gun
>>539260025I'm sorry for you man. I had one of these a while ago but Yoshi blessed me with state-mandated wins eventually.
game needs an item to counter barrierspaige is so fucking obnoxious
>>539260262>does this mean stuff that lowers gun resist raises melee damage?Yes, quite a significant amount
>>539260518Your Capacitor?
>>539260045She's unironically the best character in the game assuming you play perfectly. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is a low mmr retard.
>>539260696this item is bullshit
>>539260045>Her kit isnt particularly interesting.her 1 feels very satisfying to land, the heal + increased damage as their health lowers means that you can go from being in danger to suddenly getting a 50% heal from a creep wave/jungle camp which feels very cool and vampire-like. its melee range balancing out with her literal worst in the game health gives a pretty interesting risk/reward to it as well and you can even use it to do funny momentum stuff in the air her 2 beyond its obvious value of dodging CC also resets her air actions after every teleport. mina also recovers stamina faster then any character in the game so with superior stamina/kinetic dash you can easily do 6 airdashes in a row and fly around the mapthe sounds on her gun and her 3 are very satisfying and again it rewards you for being close with the squishy character while also helping you creep, its one of the more thematic abilities in the game as well. mina the fledgling vampire who literally gets stronger as the game goes on/she gets used to her powers which leads into her ult which is a more interactive seven ult where you can do different patterns of movement with it by airdashing before it, use it for a group silence or to nuke 1 guy/tower that's out in the open but also you're squishy as shit, it doesn't actually increase her defence like seven so you can just kind of shoot her out of the sky/knockdown her out of it if she's not careful with itall of her moves are interesting with room for skill expression, she wants to build all 3 types of items for various reasons, and she has different moves you can focus on that are all pretty good. compare this with mirage who has a similar "I just M1 on you and you take a lot of damage" but the rest of his kit is very linear
>>539260696>-36% firerate and -24% bullet resist>AND more health and rotation speedSo based how T3s are better than many T4s.
>>539260045She's unironically the worst character in the game assuming you play perfectly. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is a low mmr retard.
>>539261286oh yeah despite my effortpost for whatever its worth I wanna point out that I'm not a waifufag, just really into vampires. drifter is tons of fun as well, being able to hear a thump thump of someone coming and dodge a gank only to come back and devour their ass under nightfall for a permanant stat boost is a more satisfying vampire chunni experience then most actual vampire vidya has offered
>>539260734actually this, she's giga bullshit and only held back by the retards piloting her
Does melee resist apply to abilities that say they do melee damage? Or does it just reduce damage from regular melee attacks?Im assuming it applies to the melee portion of this ability but not the spirit component.
>>539261302competing with t3 pure damage items, berserker, warp stone, knockdown, fortitude, etc
Which characters are for sure getting new models? I only know of Talon, Shiv, Viscous, Sinclair, and Warden.
>>539262419Yamato????
>>539262534I knew I was forgetting an obvious one
optimal goo nigga build?
>>539262613Support with a little bit of spirit damage. Your job is to make plays with cube rescue beam punches and good movement. If you want to burst people pick another hero.
When the fuck is Mo and Krill getting a remodelThey are by far the ugliest looking model in the game besides maybe Yamato
>>539258990>>539258429Is doorman really that bad bros
>>539263130no, just overly reliant on getting his cart stun to make real plays other than pushing people into walker
>>539263042mo looks great thougheverbeitall they need to do is make krill into a new york rat with a shotgun
>>539263130Yes. He's a gimmick hero.
>>539262613Tanky spirit punch niggaTanky spirit punch nigga with support items if you trust your team.
>>539263130Hard characters aren't for people to play occasionally. Mina and Doorman are the hardest of the new heros and they're both on par or harder than Visc /Holliday /Lash /Pocket. I expect there to be even more difficult heros down the line based on dota. I always preferred the harder characters to play like Invoker Enchantress or Earth Spirit
>>539263130Dont play him in solo queue unless you want to sufferMy winrate with him is like 33% despite me stomping almost every game. No matter how good you are with him, you can't carry. You still have to rely on your teammates not being retarded if you want to win.
>>539263581mina ain't hard, mina players are just shitters
>it's another your victor is diving their guardian when your abilities are on cooldown episode
>>539263130Bells are whatever, doors and cart need max upgrade to be good, the ult is alright to counter-initiate or pick. Overall he's not particularly strong, he isn't a carry and can't be the main playmaker most of the time.
>>539263605I have a 70% winrate with him going gun doorman, bell build is a honeypot.
>>539263637mina is one of the hardest heroes in the game
>>539263784no
>>539263720Yeah but I cant aim well enough to make Gunman work. Maybe if I built gun and just split pushed the entire game.
>>539263720I have yet to see a single example of a successful gun Doorman
>>539263784Ehhh maybe like top 10 hardest but she's like 6-10
I’m like 16-8 on doorman but 8-14 on viscous The slime seems way harder to make work but maybe it’s my build? I never build any tank items on him at all
>>539260334Fag. Both are hot as fuck but Mina is slightly hotter.
here's why mina isn't hard. all she does is shoot people. occasionally go in for a rake to finish people off. double fuck off blink when she's in trouble. then use ult during team fight, counter initiate, or take objectives.that's all she has to do, she's not a hard character, sorry.
>>539263637Mina is widely considered to be one of if not the hardest character in game currently. She has a negative healthpool and a kit that requires you to play perfectly or feed. People that think she isn't hard are also people playing in initiate 1 and finishing the game with +6 stacks while thinking she's an ult only bot.
>>539264131Viscous is top tier but he's also harder to play
>>539264341>all she does is this and that and that and that and that >and you need to be constantly maintain perfect positioning or you're doing nothing/dead in a millisecond
>>539264131Viscous is a broken hero but requires a specific playstyle and mindset.
>>539264406Feels like I never do any damage at all
>>539264368>Mina is widely considered to be one of if not the hardest character in game currentlycounter point: she's played by gooner waifu retards who over extend constantly and don't know what positioning even is
Mina is hard because I refuse to purchase a single health item
>>539264487If you purchase health items you're doing nothing on her.
queuing my first game today sooni'm so scared going on with haze infernus paradox and seven selectedi'm so nervous
Mina is considered hard because the porn brained coomers that play her suck at the game normally so they have to consider her hard to pretend they aren't just dogshit at this game.
>>539263042mo looks pretty decent, i do like the idea overall so he just needs touch ups instead of a redesignkrill is kinda ugly and really doesn't fits in the game's aesthetic, he should probably get a full redesign
>>539264464What’s the play style and mindset anon?
>>539264538Im not telling you to play tank. Im asking you to level vigor so the boss stops one shotting you.
>>539264557>haze infernus paradox sevendaring today aren't we?
How come Mina gets all the coomer this and coomer that seethe but not the rest of the women
>>539264706The issue is all your vigor items are actively griefing your build. You're not supposed to survive if you're caught, you're not supposed to get caught in the first place.
>>539264731>whinging about character choice at all>but for a new player tooYou've won the biggest faggot award. inb4 you reply with a wojak
>gooner plays character with low health but best escape in the game>DUUUUUH IS THIS THE HARDEST CHARACTER IN THE GAME? THE HARDEST CHARACTER EVER CREATED IN A MOBA??? DUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
>>539264731I prefer supp in mobas and I haven't really tried carry much yet
>>539264951if only all escape abilities weren't countered by a 1600 soul item
>>539264751>why does the only attractive woman in the game get attention
>>539264368You would lose your mind playing Vyper if you think Mina is hard beause of this
>>539265128Geist and Paige are cuteAnd Ivy eclipses them all in sheer porn quantity
>>539264951why are we being persecuted for playing heri just like vampires and think cute girls in cute outfits are cool be nice to me...
>>539265298because she's not weak and the whining is becoming obnoxious
>>539265215Vyper is just a dogshit character.
>one zoomer nigger seething about "gooner" charactersJust stay in your pisslow lane. No one is talking about her design but you, and you're doing nothing but seething. If attractive women scare you so much maybe stay off the internet. The rest of us are discussing her kit.
>>539264634Whatever the fuck it is that Viscous players do. Most likely just duo queue lol. I think he's a good initiator and assassin, he's just unkillable if he wants to be with the punch movement, cube and ultimate, he can't get ganked at all.
>>539265347There’s a difference between hard and weak
>>539265367viscous is hard. sinclair is hard. vyper is hard. mina...just has low health. she's not hard, I'm sorry. not weak either.
>>539265215>VyperShe's not hard just requires you to spam slide. It's a playstyle most people who already play Seven or Haze would be able to adapt to immediately. Vyper just needs buffs but she's the type of character to terrorize bad players
>>539265367zoomoids becoming a gay lefty version of boomer "traditionalists" regarding sexuality is so hilarious to me. As the most degenerate and sexually depraved generation in human history, no less.
>>539265298We aren't shitting on you for playing her, we are shitting on you if you try to gaslight people into thinking she's hard to play and/or weak
>>539265598all the top players think she's hard to play but very strong
>>539265525forgot to include holliday. yea, holliday requires a lot more skill than mina by a lot, and I don't even play the character
>>539265665>and I don't even play the characteryour average /dlg/ takes
>>539265546it's just bantz mate
Why doesn’t Holliday ever mention that the town is not big enough for the both of them, is she a real sherrif?
>>539265661are all these top players in the room with us right now
>>539265525>>539265598Show your stats in game on Mina.
>>539265849the matchmaking might be bad but i doubt it's that bad that you'd ever see them, no
>>539265735>gun passive that relies on headshots in a game with everyone slip sliding around constantly>ult that requires followup and is a skillshot>jump pad and barrels that take great positioning to do anything withyea no. holliday is a lot harder. also just got nerfed.
How do you know if you're supposed to melee vs gun attack with someone like Drifter?
>>539265902>and I don't even play the character
>>539265917>How do you know if you're supposed to melee vs gun attack with someone like Drifter?Never melee unless you're desperate or they whiffed a parry and ran out of stamina. That hero has no stun and he has no way to stop them just dashing away or jumping as you wind up to hit them so just use your gun
Paige is the hardest character in the game
>>539265849Currently Ascendant and people in my lobbies consider her one of the hardest to play characters. Her stats and damage potential are absurd, but her winrate js extremely low, so the gap is clearly in how hard she is to play.
>>539265661I'm a top player and think she isn't hard to play nor weak.
>>539266071I'm sure you're regularly speaking to these Asc players that you play with and discussing Mina on the daily. Extremely good arguments, I am convinced.
>>539266092but you have 0 games played on her anyway
>>539264751paige absorbs all the support hating seethegeist gets all the hag memesivy draws the anti-furry seethewraith/haze get hate for being picks for the mouthbreathing retardsmiku gets the muh stronk female seethecalico gets the muh purple nigger seetheyamato gets the muh dogshit neon prime model seetheparadox and holliday don't seem to be that popular in neither good nor bad way except when they are broken so no one caresthat just leaves mina and vindicta to get the anti-coomer seethe, vindicta was the premiere anti-coomer seethe target before the update
>>539265902NTA but I am a Holliday main. She's only hard until you learn the barrel tech. The only difficulty in her kit is how badly things interact on the map atm. Jumppads not working or being placed on a different Y axis from you. Your lasso sometimes bugs out and drags you backwards if they're in a corner hiding in a room. Your barrels have random amounts of momentum at times. She's not hard just doesn't work. Also her bullets are massive I'm not an aim player but crackshot isn't hard to land especially if you barrel them first.
>>539266294>vindicta was the premiere anti-coomer seethe target before the updateshame they censored her feet
Is there something more tilting than having a leaver and yet only barely losing, you try for 50 minutes, you the game really was winnable despite the setback, but nah, you just barely lose by a hair. GOD.
>>539255909>anticarry copejust play mo or parakek at that point
>>539265886Still waiting on the one zoomoid tranny here seething about how "easy" Mina is to play to post Xer in game stats on the character. Surely you have a 100% winrate across 10+ games with a 5kda. Show us how easy it is faggot.
>>539266294Yoshi, release a third conventionally attractive human woman. We are ready
is infernus actually a based black character in modern gaming?
>>539260145Vyper, Billy and Mo are all goon tier, i'd have them all tied for weakest.Doorman is obviously the strongest since he's some kind of god. Drifter and Seven are probably strongest after him
>>539265902barrels knockup letting you line up a free 2-300 damage headshot and she has a half dozen of them
>>539266602Based on what?
>>539265832New York is too big to be considered a town
>>539266602If you find murder and arson and being an asshole to play against based, sure.
>>539266602He's got a good design, good voice, fun and annoying to play vs kit. Even as a racist I think he's a good character. Calico on the other hand is an ugly nigger. Her voice and personality are fucking great, her interactions with characters are fun but her big ass fucking forehead and terrible hair ruin it.
>>539260696>buying this on gunymo so its easier for people to shoot and kill during my black holes
>>539266837>>539266794>>539266728if he were white and designed like pic related youd main him
>>539266837I hope they rework calico's model soon
>>539266912I find his kit boring, so no thanks.
This is the first time in fucking forever that I've played a game and I liked a character both for their aesthetic and their skill level.I just dont get why she's a midget
>>539260145>weakestAny steet tier human like Holliday or Warden who's basically just a guy with a gun>strongestDoorman or Dynamo. Turning into a literal blackhole in a lore stance is enough to make me think no one would ever fuck with you. Gravity based powers are always bullshit.
>>539266837>i'm a racist>except when I get to know someone and learn that race is skin deep!>oops i forget this lesson the next nonwhite i seeIt must be exhausting being this stupid>>539266912Ecoli my beloved
mina is one of those characters that have she just had a 30% pickrate of one tricks she'd have like a 53% winrate. in reality she's at like 90% and it's full of retards who think a low health character is bad.
>>539267049It’s cuteAnd fits her kit to launch herself all over the place
>>539266912No I wouldn't because I don't play characters that require aim. Which is why I want them to make Calico less disgusting. >>539267049I wanna know why she has a mexican accent on some words
is there a point in leaving a creep alive when counter jungling?
>>539267132When "they" stop doing stupid shit at exceedingly high rates I'll stop judging them. I'll be here alive when you end up the next subway stabbing victim.
>>539267451No that's something league players do. It's retarded to leave free money sitting around ever.
>>539267262No idea, but she sounds exactly like femV from cyberpunk
I'm really surprised Warden doesn't have any conversations at all.
>>539267804He's been S tier since release. Yoshi mains him and Seven.
>>539264341Sanguine > dash > cold front > shoot 5 times > Rake > Sanguine > dashCan you do that combo?
>install stinktor mod>now the 1/12 victors on my team shit their pants constantly while they're feedinglore accurate
>>539264341they need to nip int he bud her ult on objectives. shit is fucking retarded. can solo take a walker at 15 mins in around 4 seconds
>>539267920Yeah but the only thing we know about him comes from his backstory about him being a raised superhuman to fight the supernatural which should at least give him a conversation with Grey Talon or something right?
>>539267509>exceedingly high rates>subway stabbingyou come off as an anxious neurotic when you put these two sentences back to back.this is like saying I am racist against while people and if you're not you're going to be the next walmart or school mass shooting victim
>boxes stop abrams charge but dont stuneverything about this character makes him so frustrating to play despite how strong he is jesus fuck
MINA HAAAAAARISE UP AND TAKE WHAT YOU DESERVEEEEEEE
man this player resurgence really saving match making
Mina isn't super hidden OP freelo pick, but she's not bebop-tier unplayable either. Perfectly balanced.
>>539268220The Doorman has begun his great work.
>>539266602I hate that he's a bartender. Super boring day job, seeing him run around with his shaker is just super lame.
>>539268443bartenders are cool
>>539268201his charge is just a buggy mess. >get charged into wall>parry himalso>get charged up a flight of stairs into open air>for some reason im locked for 2 seconds and cant move or press a button
>>539268201Get Phantom Strike
Deadtroons, is this what you want your community to be?
>>539268632videogame tats are so tacky
>>539268632oh my god you're telling me that of the millions of players there's *gulp* homosexuals among them?!?!?!
>>539268632I heard that trannies breathe air, you might want to stop doing that
>tfw I stopped caring about rank and focused on enjoying the game
>>539268462they're cool, but not in like, a battle or war context
>>539268463For some reason they entirely removed Abrams's base charge guaranteeing a heavy melee when he honestly is one of the worst laners in the game already.
>>539268632You lost
>>539268443bartender is a night job doe...
>>539265525>viscous is hardwhen did this meme start getting spread around? he's not really that complex at all
victor is miserable to play as when teammates are giant retard pussies
>>539268892mfw the strong mid and lategame hero doesn't also instawin lane :00000
>millions of players
>>539268892you want a real dogshit laner play victor
>>539268892that is a good change, walking into lane and getting instantly chunked for 3/4ths of your hp kinda sucks lol
>>5392690180.15 millions of players*during the voting event....0.09 millions of players!
>>539268632>Tattooing the placeholder logo for a game in early developmentDoodleniggers
>>539268892at least abrams is tanky and has a good gun for shooting souls, drifter needs extremely stupid enemies that rush into him or very specific lane buddies or he does jack shit but defend tower the entire time
>>539269256is it a placeholder? seems like it's the finalized logo they're going with for the game
>>539269352Everything is in development and subject to change>>539269317
>needs 30k souls to be functional>needs 2 of his abilities maxed to actually do anything>has zero lane presence >90% of his kit is countered by walking away from him>almost zero agency, super reliant on his team to start the fight so he can get in>has to wait until enemy team uses all their important cooldowns to not die instantly >still gets melted by gun heroes>his aura does a gorillon damage to himself while tickling the enemy heroes Victor is in desperate need of a rework. He's overpowered in shitter MMR but worthless against any lobby with half a brain.
>>539269410true, they might make abrams green
>>539269256>>539269352they already changed it though
>>539269452well what would you do to him?
>>539269452This. They need to give his aura to Bebop, then they also should give Mo's ult to Bebop. Then rename Bebop to Pudge
>>539269452This game really needs to move away from tank characters.
>>539269497it's the same
>>539269468or black
>>539269916Nigga already got that DSL though
cube support viscous seems like a huge meme
>>539269497>valve shop shut down>all the kino merch from deadlock won't happeni just want that on a shirt bros
>>539269898no, it's chunkier and the circle part is pierced in an X pattern instead of in a + pattern
>>539269452sounds just like infernus
gun warden FUCKGING SUCKSS
>>539269983Playing a hero with that much damage and carry potential as a support is trolling as fuck
>>539270000it's the same, nice quads btw
>>539270106i paused to write this btwthanks for saying exactly that i just said bro
>>539269984I unironically miss the Valve shop. I missed my opportunity to buy an official Mann Co hat.
I don't know what they're done but the quality of matchmaking the past few days has been absolute dogshit. 2 games today, two stomps against my team. 40 minutes long. I called for midboss on the one chance we had and nobody was interested too
>>539267959I play fighting games, that isn't an impossible to execute combo. get real.
>>539270247the only thing i got from it was the bonk replica can for a christmas present years ago but that was it
>>539269984Why the hell did they close it instead of just outsourcing it
Would slowing bullets on abrams make sense over cold front?
>>539270253>40 minutes>stomp
>>539270460that's more due to the fact that shitlow players cannot close games even if their lives depended on it
I don't really get how I'm meant to play characters that are great at 1V1ing once we get in the endgame.Laning phase and mid game is fine, but once we get to the 6V6 fights I just can't do this, there's no isolated blokes anymore for me to duel.
>>539270106
>>539269984I bought some DOTA2 mini things back in the day and got a golden Doom. I think I'd rather have the normal colored Doom, but at least the figure paid itself with some extra bucks when I sold the code included with it.
>>539270459slowing bullets works on abrams, but NOT over cold front.
warden is so boringplain rice of deadlock heroes
>>539270326I bought a bunch of Dota stuff before they moved Dota stuff to its own store. That being said, I'm excited to see the kind of merch they make for Deadlock, especially with the existing design philosophy behind it. I know that's very consoomery of me, but I haven't spent any money on merch in years, and Deadlock is really the first game to grab my attention.
>>539270536you jump into a teamfight and focus on one enemy
>>539270536flank or try to get behind them to disrupt backline
>>539270253I've had the same problem>play support hero, nobody does any damage and we lose>next game, play carry against similar enemy team and we win because I hard carry itI just want to fuck around and win instead of being tryhard...
>>539270404valve hated sharing money with the people that ran it and closed it down
How do I splitpush as Abrams because my teammates are retards? Do I just buy heroic aura and only ever use ult to escape?
>drifter passive works even when you're inviscool balanced hero
>>539271127you don't, pick another hero for that
BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER BOMB THAT PUSSY CLANKER
>>539271302how can you hate playing bepop
how do you respond without sounding mad
>>539272018I pause when they come back to take my own pee break
shop update ruined this game
>>539271096they couldn't handle the 30% cut
>>539272406yeah I loved wasting all my money on boring 500 soul items because otherwise you get statchecked by people who did
>>539255157>go to play bebop>every single fucking build is this veilwalker retardation>the one build that I had got overriddenbruh how the fuck do I revert this shit back this fruity ass shit is NOT the bebop I know fuck every streamer who did this
>>539270253the streak continuesI seriously hope the ranking system in the final game prioritises individual performance, including walker defending which isn't covered by the current metrics. I can have a shit game and get carried by my team or be the best player on the losing team and get nothing. It's silly
>>539272406>not being forced to buy 4/4/4>a bad thingyou are gay and retarded
>>539270253>>539273046>gun viscuouswat
>>539255946lmao this mod author has issues
>>539258331>almost double my games but only half the commendsBet you play like a nigger. >8,075 deniesthere it is.
>>539273697Probably because I played hundreds of games before the commend system was implemented.
>>539263130Dynamo's kick up does twice as much damage as his bells with a quarter of the spirit investment. Hes cooked.
>>539273338I'm trying out a recreation of the old Viscous which focuses on Splatter + Gun. It's felt pretty decent in these 2 games that I've trialed it and the stats reflect that in that screenshot
so many trannies on this game and they dont even try to sound like a girl lmfao wtf is this shit bruh
Post leaks
>>539269984>>539270247Glad I got my Ellis hat and T-shirt before it got shut down.
>comms banned>everyone can still see my messages>my teammates can still hear my voice>but since I'm banned I can't get rebanned>i can say whatever I wantthanks valve
>>539263042Krill should be a smaller mole on top of Mo
>>539274136Wrong board>>>/pol/
>>539274454you're right honestly this is not the board to be venting about "identity politics" and i'm childish for whining about such things on a video game board
>>539274454circus freak spotted
lich hero when? even if they just straight up port lich dota2, we need to up the skeletons
Most of my games I play are either quick sweeps or hour long matches. I sometimes feel being a good support in low elo is actually detrimental. You give your team incredible sustain but you only postpone the inevitable.
>thread slows to a crawl as soon as 1 tranny zoomer stops seething about "gooner" charactersYou just know. samefagging getting out of hand.
Guys is victor really that bad? Im only like a huge winstreak with him but i only started playing the game like a week or two ago. I feel like building spirit/tank and just farming for a bit lets me like 1v6 their team. does he just fall off as you climb?
>>539274724xi jinping disliked this post
does drifter scale?
>>539274886Even if you're planning to support, you have to build at least 1 or 2 items that let you take objectives. You can't count on your team to do it.
>>539274985yes, he is
Your victor for the match, sir
>>539263130>playing Doorman>buy Headshot Booster first>bully the lane even harder>take a Walker by the 10 min markit was all downhill from then on, not deathwise or anything (only died once, we won) its just that every part of his kit falls off a cliff onto mid-late game, by the end the only thing of value is the portal and that doesnt matter if you cant do anything personally or your team doesn't care about using them. had to wait until the team was done farming for 20 minutes while all the enemy walkers were dead and we had a 55k soul lead because while Doorman has fuckall options when it comes to big ass teamfights or anything beyond sneaking someone and spending most his kit assassinating ONE (1) person
>>539274985Victor is very good even after nerfs. A character that can heal a ton and have a second life or even more with rejuv/items is EXTREMELY valuable. Even if your damage is low, if you're sitting there distracting 2+ enemies, you are giving your team time to respawn, rotate to the fight, or give them the space to push other objectives. Victor also scales extremely well into late game, becoming harder and harder to deal with
>>539263130is there a term for a reverse snowball character? Doorman is a sandball(?), starts sturdy but flakes away immediately
>>539275408Thats how i feel but seeing everyone here doom about him makes me confused. I scale so hard i usually carry the game and people here say hes just basically the equivalent of an afk teammate thats why i ask
>>539275627That's just an early-game hero.Doorman scales like shit outside of echo shard stuns or max rank doors for mobility.
>>539275627don't think there's a specific term for that but yeah doorman definitively scales like shit outside his CC and doors, like pocket
i can't stop telling people that beat me to kill themselves
How the FUCK do i deal with poke heavy cancer lanes>just don't get hit>just farm under guardian>buy extra regen and other 800 survivability itemsANY OTHER ADVICEGeist/kevin and dynamo/whatever lanes have been fucking my ass raw and i'm starting to get a bit tired of the bullshit 200 damage at level 1, making me choose between dying and missing farm, being effectively the same thing with extra steps.
>>539276237You deal with it obviously. It's not like losing lane is the worst thing in the world. Just don't get killed and farm up
i am like 300 games into this and i still dont know if paradox is good or absolutely horrible.
>>539276237Literally fucking step back, make sure you hang around the healing trooper too
>>539276237There's no magic solution you fucking retard you already have most of the ideas down. Hard shove the wave spend your money on monster rounds or something that gives you wave pressure. If they have to hit the creeps they're not hitting you. force shove the waves in then harass them under the tower instead. Those charcters are usually worse at all inning.
>>539276207someone you know will kill himself/attempt to kill himself one day and you'll feel terrible about all the times you told someone to kill themselves
>>539275321that was mefuck you fags for never helping in team fightsworthless pussies
>>539276207you're just based, my son
>>539276380See that's the thingthat's what i do, except when i'm late on the game i have to rely on team to do anything, which is wildly variable.>>539276415i tend to do that, except then i apply no pressure and they come all the way to our guardian and dive. this is the outcome im trying to avoid.>>539276529except it always turn out bad because somehow they have more wave pressure. Is it a teammate in lane issue? I acknowledge that i'm not good, but also i go through the steps to be careful and not dying, though i get blasted trying to farm and i can't escape the fucking cycle of>get creeps>get poked>either die or leave>lane gets worse>repeatit's a escalating issue that gets worse and from where i can't fucking escape.
>>539276529That sounds like a problem that future me will have to deal with. Present me is living his best life.
>>539276237Stick to your heal trooper. It heals 40 every 6 seconds, which is effectively 6.6 regen. Obviously if you already took a ton of damage you don't have that option but the trooper can heal behind walls and the heal will bounce from player to player too so as long as one person is in range to receive the heal, your teammate needs to be in equal range of you for it to bounce to them. When your troopers first drop it will heal you immedaitely if you're low. You need to recognize matchups too. Do not send two low damage supports to one lane. Send the dynamo or pocket or w/e to the bebop lane. Recognize what good or bad lane matchups look like so you can understand if you can push or you're on the backfoot and play accordingly BEFORE you take that poke damage.
>>539275627>>539275872there should be a term for early game characters though, in general
Just got my bussy beat up by Bebop, is there anything I can do or build against a Bebop who's good at hooks?
>>539275872>scales like shitall of his abilities have utility outside of their damage regardless of level, that hero specializes in not letting you interact with the gamehis 1 fucks up your accuracy, his 2 stuns and throws you away, his 3 allows easy escapes and his 4 is just another long ass stun, it doesn't matter how many souls or levels (other than maxxed cart) he'll always have these utilities
>>539277063we can call them two-pump-chumps since they finish early
>>539277167debuff remover, counterspell, ethereal shift, reactive barrier, divine barrier
>>539277316why is dynamo op
>>539277063flaccid
>>539277316we postin arbitrary tier lists? here's my "how well their abilities fit in with their stated lore/character" one
>>539277408needs to be a noun
>>539277385long ass AOE stun that only be removed by outside actors
>>539277580i just don't get how you're supposed to get into the middle of that many players without getting blow up
>>539276915If you are in a tough lane your job isn't to apply pressure, throw your abilites out to last hit and make space but most importantly don't get caught outThere's really nothing else you're supposed to do in such casesThis also is a bit hero dependent, which ones do you play?
>>539277063its hard to come up with a opposite to "Snowball Character", its just a perfect description
>>539277789there is lots of optionspeople no matter what rank fall for bait so easily, and even getting just 2 people in blackhole is enough to win a teamfight easily.
is the damage/death recap just completely fucked up for anyone elseit shows the entire lifetime for whatever reason and sometimes damage from my teammates too
>>539277047hard zoning matchups just ruin meGeist/kevin is the latest one, because you can't all in with kevin around so she just pokes you at rangeI try to play wraith currently, bullet characters arent really what im used to and i just can't do it the moment a poke comp happens, they just do the damage in a fraction of the time i need to return it early game, leaving me having to extend if i want to continue the skirmish.there's game sense here, and there's "what the fuck do i do when i need time and all lanes are dying/blue lane comes to camp too"
>>539277316>Doorman>just fine>when we're currently trying to come up with a word to describe characters usefulness falling off a cliff
>>539277385Every ability he has is ridiculous>Teleport which makes him + allies invincible among other buffs>Insanely impactful ultimate>Useful sustain ability for lane / skirmishes which can heal his whole team>Knockup move which can do a crap load of damage and travel far as shit
>>539277173>1 fucks up your accuracyhalf the cast doesnt care about their accuracy>his 2 stuns and throws you awayat level three and it still needs to have some sort of range upgrade>3 allows easy escapesyes, when Valve decides you're allowed to put a portal down (unfair of me to point out, I know theyre fixing that issue but its really annoying)>4 is just another long ass stuntrue but thats his Ult
>>539277816as I said >>539278041 shortly after, im trying to play wraith.I've been playing burst/utility characters (dynamo/bebop) but being at the mercy of my team to carry if i don't get my stacks or my engage falls flat pushed me to play classic carry characters a bit more.Except i have to relearn how to play
>>539277316i wouldn't want to play a version of the game where Abrams is weak
>>539278628Lucky for you he's been consistently good or broken for literally every patch
anyone get hand pain on their right hand when playing? I have like 9k hours in dota and never experienced it, 1k hours across other various shooters like OW, tf2, cs2 etc and also never had a problem, hell even a lot of hours in melee and 0 issues yet one game of deadlock and its like im putting too much street on my hand
>>539278673and thats a good thing!
>>539278673people say this but i haven't seen an Abrams not go 1/12/5 in 6 months
>>539276237monster rounds to fight back waves more efficiently, rush enchanter's emblem or bullet vest to deal with their pokes. spirit shield is also a strong answer when combo'd with some other green.
>>539277316I’ve barely encountered a McGinnis in 60 matches are they really that annoying when played well?
>>539278908Yesendless push and grind of your lane
>About to kill an enemy paradox>Doorman comes out of nowhere to ult herShe was fucking dead!!! You fucking ginger fuck!
>>539274985His pisslow winrate remains strong.
>>539278795shoot ur gundon't melee unless they stunnedshoot building
>>539277316>lane against mcginnins>most unfun dogshit garbage games ever>have mcginnins on my team>negative kd always
>>539274931or maybe I'm actually playing the game ya dumb gooner
>>539279539this way of showing text chat is probably the best thing to come out of deadlock
>>539274454he's right.
>>539279420>enemy mcginnis traps you under your tower by shredding minions>lane partner mcginnis wastes all her ammo on missing her harass
>>539279753>towerGUARDIAN>minionsTROOPERS
>>539255157anyone ahs a good kelvin build?I tried one focused on his freeze beam and it was fucking garbage. i was useless the entire match
>>539277063I keep trying to find a word to describe it and I just can’t>Eidolon | Idol and Spector, there is nothingToo archaic>Gold Calf | False IdolToo religious>Fraud | dishonest personNot really applicable, it’s more of a FGC term and Doorman is Honest he just turns to shit later on>Deadender | One who has no prospects for the futureReally like this one, bit wordy but it fits enough
How it feels to die to get your lane partner fed and end up being a bitch support all game
>>539278908Yep, a McGinnis who has a solid grasp of what is safe positioning based on the rest of the map is a fucking tick that just slowly and patiently sucks an entire side lane dry. She's either going to immediately bail with absolutely no hope of catching her because of perfect wall placement, or she's going to dig in her heels and make the trade completely awful, forcing you to back off and now you can't contest her pushing an objective without pulling in another teammate because you're stuck hanging too far back or else she just mows you down from range. And when she's done, she moves on to the other side lane. Now, mind you, it does seem to specifically be side lanes she excels at. Mid she can still be a huge nuisance but she thrives when she can see the other team on the wrong side of the map to stop her from pushing her position further.Also she wins lane for free. Literally for free, even the most braindead McGinnis players win their lane for free.
>>539277063we should call them roses, because just like them, they wither as fast as they bloom...
>teammate flames me for something I supposedly did wrong according to him>another teammate butts in and says he's being a fucking retardalways gives me a smirk
>>539279724>one day we will have a mod that uses A.I to instantly turn the chat into character voice linesit will be kino
>>539278908Yes, she's a fucking rat who most characters can't 1v1 and her entire kit is built to annoy you>>539279928Max frost grenades, get rapid recharge+healing booster, win early fights by healing people and snowball
I legit never won as Kelvin>>539279420dude, I just laned against a Infernus and Haze combo and they basically denied 90% of the souls. by the end of the lane they had DOUBLE what me and wraith had, i was kelvin and Wraith was no and couldn't deny for shit
>>539280525>teammate flames me for not doing something (i did it)>tell him "bro but i did that, you literally were there">actually stops flaming me and starts flaming the other lane instead
>do well>team fails me>team does well>I fail my team
>>539277789>teamfight starts>walk around where the fight is taking place to avoid being seen>jump into the middle of the fight>press 4
>>539280718Even Drifter can't 1v1 her at the same amount of souls lmao. God forbid the Drifter is at a soul deficit.
>yellow lane shiv and viscous feeding>other lanes win>move to help yellow out after they've been chimping out in chat all game>feeding shiv taps 4 on all kills the rest of us would've had>"see this is how you play when you aren't feeding"is this how people get a skewed view of their own skill
>>539280870I know they say there isn’t hard 50/50 win rate matchmaking but this certainly FEELS like a 50/50 matchmaker
>>539277505>vindicta need a buffgood bait
>PLAYING against sinclar as victor>he always has my ult but better and strongeri fucking hate this game
Holly shit, I knew something was off with those 2 fagsDudes didn't miss 90% of the souls in a low ranked game and now I know why. the other one doesn't even have 70 hours on the game.https://tracklock.gg/players/245966964https://tracklock.gg/players/973989649
>>539278608wraith is bad dont play her
>>539277316>needs nerfsgay talon (100% winrate in every comp game since his last buff), infernus, seven, warden, drifter>needs a reworksinclair, vyper, drifter, victor, bebop, mirage>needs a buffvictor, vyper
>>539281983Completely change Victors T3 upgrade on his 2 and then we can talk about buffs for him.
>>539282296Agree, no characters should have debuff removers. Viscous cube still is the only ability that cleanses ultimates btw.
mina is sleeper fuckin op why is nobody speaking up on those dumb buffs
>>539282583*slowing hexes her**oneshots her*
>>539282583Spamming this every thread won't make it true, shitlowbro
>>539282583>any silence connects>dies instantlyyeah bro so OP
>>539282746>>539282671found the tranny chasers fat ugly pigs go take a shower
>>539277316Screams Pisslow
>>539278908her healing is absurdly OP but everything else not really
>>539282671>>539282746>>539282836>messages 1 minute apart all saying the same thingOnly low elo retards think Mina is bad. Everyone in higher MMRs knows she's broken even more so since the buffs.
>>539282869You probably metaslave as Seven or Warden which is far more troon coded
im so tired of these games where i get literal ai teammates. just had a game as victor where its late game and we are all ready for a fight. i say im going in and they just wait. i literally go through THREE FUCKING DEATHS and they finally decide to jump through once im on death CD. in the same game we took mid boss, we won a fight with three of them down and we still need two walkers. THREE NIGGERS GO TO FUCKING YELLOW TO CATCH THE BIG WAVE OF MINIONS FOR FUCKING FARM.
>watched new friend get shit on for 40 minutes by an obvious smurfi wish i could have tagged in and raped him but alas
I've been playing Shiv and he is really fun. He's literally the perfect occultist for me just run in like an ape and hope for the best.
>>539283042>>539283042You are having a tranny meltdown because a glass cannon can actually do some damage now, she's still shit regardless and completely falls apart with one 1600 buy. Being emissary doesn't make you high elo btw
>>539283042the post cooldown in /vg/ is 90 seconds retardbronot only a clueless shitlow on deadlock but also one in 4chan, sad!
Theoretically, how would I work on improving this?
>>539282296I fucking HATE fighting victor because most anti-heal items simply don't work of of how stupid strong his 2 is. items like toxic bullets and inhibitor stop working as he using his heal. Decay becomes literally pointless because it's a single cast. Pretty much only healbane works against him because it's the easiest to apply only needing any instance of spirit to start working.
>get vyper>immediately gg wp, he does nothinglove throw picks>>539283308>waifushitter now calling other people trannieslmao
>>539281697ERM I'VE NEVER SEEN A SINGLE HACKER IN MY 20,000 GAMES SOUNDS LIKE A PERSONAL ISSUE LMAO
>>539283163All mobatards are like this. They rather farm then finish the game which is what separates good from bad players. If you're a good player you'll have to play the carry and or OP character to get to the rank you think you deserve then you'll be able to play who you find fun.
>>539283396I don't play Mina though, I play Doorman, Lash, and Wraith. Who do you play that you struggle against her so much?
>>539277316>Infernus and Wraith>Literally the most oppressive laners that will also hyper farm and become OP with zero opposition>Just fine>Just fine
mirage is actually fun wtf
>>539280512That’s pretty
>drifter on enemy team>team feeds solo like crazy>get drifter once>people in pairs of two ALWAYSno one can play against this hero except when im on it, fucking hell
>>539283308>2025 and he thinks people don't know about F12seething beacuse you're the only person on the planet who thinks Mina is weak is retarded. It's fine for you to have a pisslow opinion but go spew it on reddit instead of shitting up the board. That bottom surgury won't make you a woman but hopefully it makes you commit suicide.
>>539283509wraith is one of the worst laners in the game though?
>>539281280>I can't read
is the mina schizophrenia one person or is /dlg/ genuinely this dogshit at the game
>>539283042nigga you is having a meltyalso i have a 4chan pass
>>539283749Bro this game has 19,000 players, its just one big gaslight chamber
>>539280845>>539280525>playing doorman>5 minutes into lane teammate says "have you tried using your bell?">used the bell off cooldown every chance I had>tries to argue with me that I haven't used the bell onceretarded teammates are just par for the course. they used to get me angry now I just tell myself I know better than them otherwise I'll have an aneurysm
>Minatranny trying to accuse the people rightfully calling out her bullshit as being samefaggotry when the reality is the "people" defending of her are samefaggingACK already
>>539265367>Step 1: have every idiot coomer play a single character for a week>Step 2: watch as her win rate drops lower than its ever gone for a hero before>Step 3: Receive massive amounts of buffs because Ice Fraud has no idea what hes doing>Step 4:??????>Step 5: Profit!I kneel, minacoomers.
>>539284016You know having a higher sample size means her winrate is more accurate to how strong she actually is right? Why is her winrate also shit in Eternus if she's sleeper OP?
>>539283640>sprays bullet damage to poke you>gets cards that also do lots of spirit damage and never miss for more poke>buffs fire rate of her and partners>has a get out of jail free card so can't be punished>insanely powerful ult that's cooldown is way too fast for what it isuh huh, yeah sure
>>539284121You realize half those people were completely new players who got smurf stomped and uninstalled the game, right? The steam forums lit the fuck up and the player count dropped back to normal.
>>539284135Her gun is weak early, her poke is less consistent than other abilities, and her ult is pretty easy to avoid and dodgeable by a good chunk of the cast. She isn't the weakest laner but she's one of them.
>>539284236You going to answer what hero you main and why her winrate is shit in Eternus if she's sleeper OP or are you just going to keep having a deranged melty
>>539284135you say a lot of pros but the stats on her shit is just awfullike a third of the characters in the game can just ignore her ult too.the stats in her kit just suck absolute dick.
I'm actually struggling to think of a weaker laner than Wraith aside from maybe Ivy or Dynamo
>>539284359Its literally what happened, the objective truth. I'm genuinely giving you praise right now and you're still being a nigger lmao.
Everyone says to build gun on doorman but I haven’t seen a single post of proof that this works out
>>539284524V*ctor?
>>539284524AbramsNeither of the characters you listed are even close to being the actual worse laners.
>>539284602Yeah I forgot about him
>>539284245barely that weak, she buys QSR and Tesla to get free extra damage and dodgeable? what game are you playing? even at the max range that she can use it from, it'll catch up so fast and spray you down no matter where you are>>539284364on paper, maybe, in practice, not at allyeah, sure, ignore her ult, get lifted into air, let her bullet hose you and even after the lift itself is over, you still can't fight back while you pelts you with cards, good luck ignoring that
Mina should've been a pretty white lady instead of a dog-eating gook.
>>539283359>souls per minute: 1003>average denies: 1.8I found the problem
>>539284737>posts dog-eating nip??
>>539284670Even with QSR her cards are still weaker and less consistent than basically every other form of spirit poke, also no matter how much you try to gaslight her gun is dogshit especially early game there's a reason people build mostly spirit on her. If she's fucking you up that bad somehow get spirit shielding.
>>539284740So how would I work on improving that? I try to run around getting crates or jungle if lane is taken after 10 minutes. I doubt more denies are really going to improve my farm but they're low because I struggle to multitask in lane phase already
>>539284670When i'm talking about ignoring her ult. I mean literally just iframing it. Viscous, Pocket, Ivy, Dynamo, Calico, Yamato, and Mirage can literally just completely ignore Wraith's ult. Even if these characters also have to spend their own ult to beat Wraith's they still come out on top since they'll have the advantage of actually using their ult.
>>539284524Ivy and Dynamo cannot possibly be weak laners
>>539284737The character in your post is a dog-eating gook, anon. Where the fuck do people get the notion that Touhou bitches are hwhite
enough about minapost chatbubbles
>>539285214are you retarded? like genuine questionby all obvious observations, and even by all statistics, they have historically always been the terrible laners even in patches where they are overtuned
>yamato is nopanwtf hot
I fucking love chucking barrels and doming skulls
>>539285498>t. misses every barrel and rarely lands a headshotyeah bro, sure, now lasso that bitch Infernus here so the team can slap some sense into him.
>>539285474>muh scienceplay the game
>>539285664I JUST had a good game and I'm mildly proud of myself so FUCK YOU dude
>>539285214>Both have an iframe>Both have healing built into kit>Kits are filled with AOE>Half decent guns, Ivy's is actually very goodNo. They are not weak laners. Dynamo can't actually play aggressive and will have to depend on their partner but has healing and can dodge easily. Ivy using her 1 into 3 to making people take like 200+ damage from sitting in her ivy does such an incredible amount of damage. She also has good trooper clear.
>>539285281Only non-youkai are ethnically japanese in 2hu.
>>539285743>actually hit close to homeIt is ok bro, I'll leave you be, congrats on your match>>539280718does his grenades actually heal players? because it seems that the heal is very small. also do you have a build id?
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO characters that can say nigger
>all my high priority picks are on the enemy teamThis shit is so ass
>get pocket>win>get mina>losejust like in real life i win with twinks and don't understand girls
>>539286025Thank youI'll pay it back eventually for all the games I was useless
>>539279420is it just me or does this website have an excess of people that think putting nigger into everything somehow makes it funny>its always been like thisnot really
>>539286619Because Pocket is Mina if Mina's abilities were AOE nukes instead of single-target.
>>539285018Become the biggest piece of shit you can and just sit there waiting for souls to pop then deny the enemy team until you just starve them of souls. Bonus points if you have a gun with 9000 bullets and they made the mistake of playing any other hero. Just remember its not bullshit or encouraging people to play like actual niggers, its """"skill expression"""
I'm about to queue up. Who should I play?
>winning so hard someone on the enemy team abandons and we just winI'm gonna lose so many fucking games after this
Did they abandon calling heroes "mystics"?I don't really like either term tbqh
>>539287380Vyper>>539287407>they quit and the match doesn't count
>>539287380Paradox
It took me 300 hours but I've finally given Paradox a try and I'm in love bros.
>>539282869>instant seething after getting called out
>>539287407that's what I do when I'm losing lane
>>539287380doorman-kun
Why does this game attracts more female artists than male artists?
>>539287808I don't think it does.
>>539287808incredible husbandos, lacklustre waifus.
>>539287430because it will be a class of spirit focused heroes.Assassin, Brawler, Marksman, Mystic maybe but im thinking this guy needs to go in "nigger"
>>539287808cute girls rather than incredibly sexual ones that are BVILT for breeding + ez fujo material
put more vampires in the game>but we just got twoyeah and i want more
>>539287956So gay artists?
>>539287512vyper it is
>>539288323>we got two vampires and frankenstein's cancerous monster before a single werewolfowari da....
>mfw sending the Doorman to the baroness hotel as sinclaire
>>539285471(I was Bebop!)
what hero and build do I play if I want to be antifun
game needs a pick phase so badly
>tfw too old for Deadlocksucks being 27
>>539288574There are no werewolvesOnly weremoles
>>539284810Remilia is canon romanian, therefore white.
>>539288813he wanted to larp as a wagie, he's going to be forced back to work after his unpaid break like one
>>539289017i'm almost sad we didn't get this abomination shiv... almost.
>>539260048It's hard to tell. She's had two different voice actresses play her and nether one really sounded black to me but it's hard to tell with all the vocal filters and pitch shifting effects on her voice. Her features could go one way or the other. She reads as a creepy glowie white chick caked in smoke to me more than a black chick.https://youtu.be/S2WOtfO1BwI?si=tZLh4KYP1uvljqdkhttps://youtu.be/KGsHQKw3vcQ?si=xwYSl_11X4AIN59P
They need to fix matchmaking asap, when the enemy team has Wraith, Drifter, Haze, and Ivy to destroy towers, and you only have some retarded gun Warden it's so over
Some niggas downloaded a version of the game without a fucking minimap in them I swear
>>539288548K nevermind. Our vindicta dced, never came back and the feeding dynamo and bebop just left. That's anticlimactic.
>>539289578It's like this even in Eternus games. It doesn't get better.
>>539260048No, but I'm quite certain the Sinclairs are. They've got extremely dialed in accents placing them as northern USA black.
>>539289439Has she really had two different VAs? I'm pretty sure it's been the same person, they've simply changed the pitch shifting like 3 times.
>>539288323we need an insane malkavian vampire and a nosferatu rep
>get to oracle>everyone is either an eternus smurfing or a literal aimbotterwow this game is unplayable
how do I stop getting so angry at this fucking game
>>539290204stop playing after 2 losses, for a day or however long it takes to reset your mental.
>>539255157This game is actually unplayable I have top dmg top kill every game and still lose cuz my team in this dog shit mmr is horrible. Such a waste of time to queue up a game and no matter what you do you just lose cuz ur team is full of retard NIGGERS
>HEY I KNOW WE JUST RELEASED NEW CONTENT FOR OUR GAME>I KNOW LETS PUT EVERYONE IN THE LOWEST MMR SO ITS COMPLETE GAMBA IF YOU GET THE SHITTERS OR THE OTHER TEAM GETS THE SHITTERSI want to enjoy this game but whats the point of even playing if you are just forced to lose cuz u have retards every single fucking game.
>>539290330I had one of these for like 10 games in two days a week ago. Find a friend to play with and the matchmaker becomes better somehow.
>>539290542I have no friends who are good at this game.
>>539290003>malkavian>lane with him>your hero says something general about vampires >he just responds ranting like an incoherent schizo about wallpaper and the taste of rabbit blood
>>539290627based and malk pilled
Who should I play next? I just played vyper in a game where I achieved nothing because our vindicta left the game early. What's next on my Deadlock experience?
>>539290715I said Paradox
>>539289015holy unc status...
>>539289015I'm 30 and i'm Emissary VI, i'm still hanging in there!
>>53929116223-30 is big bro
>made auto parry faggot rq abrams gang keep winning
>>539290330>>539290471>he thinks killing bad players as drifter makes him better than the trash he's paired withhate to break it to you but if you did nothing with all that money you're just as useless as the niggers with 0 kills.
FUCKING NERF MINA
Hello. I've played dota for 15 years and CS for 20+ years and finally decided to give this a try because it's the only game Valve gives a shit about at the moment. Is there anything like dota2protracker where you can see what other people are building on the heroes? Or should I just go with whatever the default recommended build is until I learn the game.Thank you.
>>539292012Just like Dota you can follow published builds in-game, you do that from the item shop itself.But yes, there's tracklock.gg for one. I recommend finding a Twitch streamer that no-lifes the hero you want to play and copy their build, it's usually 10 times better and more nuanced than top public builds.
>>539291981she's not even that strongher passive is worse than other on hit procs and her ult sucks if there's more than one target
>>539291981*phantom strikes her**oneshots her*
>>539292242ah yes phantom strike that doesn't even cancel her ult meanwhile she's still mowing you down and you're silenced great fucking idea
I just saw good Yamato in 2025It was gun-Yamato
>>539292370>>539292242Not to mention she can just dash immediately after she's been phantom struck
>>539292370>cancel her ultuhhh... it's called a wall...
I just KILLED a dogshit Yamato in 2025I was spirit doorman
>>539292441That sounds so fucking boring actually.I'm playing Yamato to nearly one shot people with my 1 not gay as M1 all day.
>half my team leaves>opponents still say "gg"What about a lopsided guaranteed loss is good?
Is there anyway to private your profile to friends?
i want to kiss Mina Ha!
>Enemy team at our doorstep>We're trading blows back and forth>Go in with huge Haze ult>Whole enemy team turns to deal with me>I die>Where the fuck is my team>They're all sitting back shooting or killing the candle dudesYeah this game is fucking garbage sometimes.
>>539293195>Enemy team at our doorstepTHE WOLF IS AT YOUR DOOR
>>539258781Just like Abrams, hero for lobotomized people.
>>539285471old screenshot but this one still busts my sides into orbit
I think Doorman's ult is the most comfies of them all, I just chill at the hotel and then press CC. Thanks for saving me Dorry
>>539269497Imagine if they go back to Neon Prime!
>>539285471>>539293370why do the chat bubbles make it way funnier?is it because it's as if the character themselves is saying it?
>>539293151all the matches i played today all had a mina on the lobby, can't wait for this whore to get nerfed like bebop
>>539293483>is it because it's as if the character themselves is saying it?that's definitely part of it. if you're not reading chat bubbles in your head w/the character's voice you're reading then wrong
Flying is just way too broken. How do you compete as a groundlet with 3 stam when Mina gets to choose whether shes on the X Y or Z axis at any point and you need to buy an entire item just to interact with them at all.
>>539285471>1.3
The Doorman more like the Cuckman
>>539293195Get gud All Haze players are braindead. If your team isn't there fighting already why would you even ult
What's the current cool ass Shiv build
>>539285471someone paused the game to take a piss (either that or they were joking about it)
>>539293534>Mina nerfYeah that aint happening
>the blood on Mina's face means she sucked someone off like seconds ago
>>539294351her bats bite her prey
I've gotta stop punching with Abrams outside of stun.I got parried a whole one (1) time.Brain wants to whack in close range instead of using the big fuck you gun that brains people.
how does it sort headshot accuracy from normal accuracy?
>>539294351Or she just bit her tongue
i wish i wasn't a broke ass neet so i can punch my fucking monitor
>>539294603that'd probably happen to me if i was a vampirebite my tongue and just push it to the corner of my mouth passing it off as if i didn't just do something brazenly idiotic
so how do vampires work in this setting, anyways? specifically the whole "dying in the sun" part, the sun's out ingame so what are the rules of vampirism here
>>539292726>It was a good game until your team raged
>>539295129if something seems weird lore wise just blame it on the patrons like they do for dotathey just protect the vampires from the sun with magic
>>539295129They're like skyrim vampires, they only have reduced mana regen in the sun.
>>539295129The city isn't real. It's a playground made by the patrons for their little circus their putting on to pretend like they're gods when really they're just low level genjutsu users.
Hmmm........ I want the Mirage on my team to teleport to me... Should I use a mic and ask him? No let's just hope he reads my mind.
>>539286662>nigger isnt funnyok
>>539295129>In fact, the weakness to sunlight is a modern addition to vampire folklore and literature, which only goes back to the German film Nosferatu, making it one of the newer additions to the vampire lore.It's a made up weakness.
the matchmaking HAS to have been developed wrong, as a joke. there is no way they are putting the me in high rank games as the characters the game literally tells me I'm bad at. two down arrows and they put me in games several TIERS above my rank. they're going to revist the code and see some comment that says "haha got you this is all reversed" right? there is no way they actually made something so bad on accident there is just no way I refuse to believe it
>>539294351she's just a drooling retard.
Ixia is not a real country, you're just a demon in a suit
>>5392916281v1 nigger faggot I farm you ez pz
>>539294351haha my peenus cums blood and shes drooling it out!!!
>>539286662https://files.catbox.moe/yw5sd1.mp4
>>539295129The game takes place during a solar eclipse
Who said Geist looks like her son's sister and that she has her son's eyes?
>>539295910>1v1 an initiate playerI think I'll pass I'd have more fun watching paint dry.
rate my ivy build. i just love how tesla applies spirit debuffs
>>539296508so if its so easy why you pussy cuz I would farm you lil bitch boy?
what happened to active reload?I would see it in every build ages ago
>>539296541Definitely looks like one of those 2-8-3 useless ivy builds
>>539296591you would get farmed unc 1v1's in deadlock are shit anyway
>>539295129Mina can endure sunlight because her undying love for pocket hurts her more. She just doesn't notice
>>539286662it's bazinga for the mentally retarded
>>539296637they finally noticed everyone was buying it just to make their passive reload speed faster.
>>539295661>arcanoid 2 player>queue my first doorman game>dropped into an oracle lobbyI wasn't flamed at all but I deserved to be. I was objectively an anchor on my team
I like Vyper but I'm a moba player not a shooter so I cant aim. besides Spirit Vyper who should I play cause I suck and am bad? I've had moderate success as Mo&Krill and Lash but only if the enemy is fully lobotomized
>>539297478you can just get better at aiming
>>539293606>orange lanei miss you
>>539297504No you can't?
>>539297504Yeah let me just set aside 1000 hours doing boring ass aim trainer exercises
>>539297478Try spirit Ivy
>>539296852So if that even makes any sense you wouldn't be a pussy about it and actually run the fade but you won't cuz I would tea bag you on cd.
>>539297478Abams
>>539295480SENDING BEETLES
>>539295129Is there even any proof that they need to drink blood to sustain themselves?
>>539297478McGinnis. the hero is built more for macro than for micro (pvp)
>>539295129mina has a parasol to block the sun and drifter is ancient enough to have enough points in fortitude to ignore that weakness
>get laned with a Seven as Vyper>apparently he doesn't know what a last hit or deny is>just keeps shooting the creep wave nonstop but never the souls>enemy team just keeps denying all ones I'm not able to catch>almost instantly start out farming us>jump enemy dynamo and stun him plus take off half his HP>the Seven is just 8 feet away still shooting the creeps in lane>game ends with me and the seven having 5 deaths because they eventually get to the point they just dive us from full health under tower>"Our Vyper threw the game."
>>539297349I still don't understandso people realized it just sucked compared to quicksilver?
>game ending in 27 mins>literally nothing I can do as victorstate mandated loss or notThis hero is GARBAGE
>put in low priority que because my power cut mid match>you specifically have to win to actually get out>literally every single game someone ragequits so I can't winseems a little poorly thought out desu but there's been some real funny people like a guy who bought an account for this game
>50k haze>20k dmg
>>539299115He's playing the long con
any tips for physically aiming?I hear to have a low sensitivityis it bad to have a wrist rest?
>Pushing 30>Hover around Oracle-Phantom despite this being my first MOBA>Know when custom maps come out and every 14 year old is practicing for hours a day I'll get owned by your average player and probably be in Ritualist or even lowerWish I was young again
>>539299679There are hundreds of guides out there on how to aim.I have a wristpad and it works fine for me but it necessitates playing at high sens.
>>539299696just play the game and stop worrying about this bullshit, christ>>539299115low prio is specifically for people that have a low trust scorei live in a place with terrible power and dealt with 6 hour bans 3 separate times now due to power outages, but i've never been in low prioyou're either calling people niggers in game over voice, intentionally griefing and feeding, being text abusive, hard-abandoning games, or a combination of all of the above
>>539299679it's always personal preference, lower sensitivity always results in more precise aim but if you can't do the sweeping motions to do a 180 degree turn then it's pointless.you also need a gigantic mousepad for low sens. people have succeeded in all types of games with all kinds of sens so it really doesn't matter as long as you are actually comfortable with what you have it set to. experiment and don't give up on something just because you had one or two shit games from dealing with the adjustment period.i would suggest going as low as you feel comfortable with.
>>539256524Name and concept (alien lower class worker) is kino, abilities are hot dogshit.
Sometimes it really feels like the laning phase is too overwhelmingly decided by who can clear waves better. Like, if you're going against a Seven + Kelvin lane where they can kill your entire wave in 2 seconds while also damaging you, it feels impossible to take any trades because you're in a constant state of disadvantage with creeps pushing you.
>>539277505Abrams lore fits plenty; he has a cursed book and is a big ass demon dude who is unkillable. I think Haze is way worse; she can put people to sleep and go stealth mode but is otherwise just generic gun assassin bitch; very little to do with "the sandman" could have just been an evil spy lady. I also think Lash is almost perfect but his whip nuke on 3 feels weird; has nothing else to do with the rest of his character.
>>539300593everyone can clear the waves super fast, you're probably focusing too hard on plinking the enemy for 10 damage instead of just shooting the troopers in the head.the troopers spread out on purpose so that AoE skills can't just immediately clear them all out.
Hero concept based on the red steel 2 guyHe's a zipper guy with a lot of zippers and has a mouth made of zippershe has 4 guns and a katana he stolehe's the bad guy cowboy to contrast HollidayGun: Big Shot, M2 does an explosive shot1: Upward slash that slows enemies2: shotgun blast: shotgun blast3: speedloader passive: shortens reload time. gains spirit damage shortly after reload4: unzip: all the zippers in his coat open to his dimensional pocket that holds a bunch of gunsdeals a lot of damage in a conefinal level adds a sniper that extends the cone by a lot
>>539288323>>539288574I find it so weird Drifter isn't a werewolf.
>>539277385big team fight AOE stun makes a hero meta in every non shit bracket like in dota 2 because it's a team game
Mothman > werewolf
Monster Hunter International Collab when?
>>539300780OMG JOJO REFERENCE
>>539300714>his whip nuke on 3 feels weird; has nothing else to do with the rest of his characterHis name is Lash, how is the attack that lashes your opponent(with the same rope he uses for his entire skillset) out of place
>>539300714>Abrams lore fits plenty; he has a cursed book and is a big ass demon dude who is unkillable. but why the donkey kong slam?
they need to update victor's tags.you can indeed kill him quite easily now.
>>539299953>hard-abandoning gamesI did this once last week (literally under a minute into a game) but the rest of the list not at all. if one intentional abandoned game and one unintentional is enough for me to be permanantly put on the team with a russian who AFK's despite living in fucking america and against a literal aimbot haze.like at least once you think I'd be on the team that's doing moderately okay, but nopeeither way I'm not sure why it insists on putting me
>>539301061They should change Paige's toRuinedTheAesthetic
>>539300971I mean it fits his name but like isn't he in an underground fighting arena? Is he allowed to use whips? The death slam and jumping and dive-kicking (since he refuses to do uppercuts anymore) make sense but the whip just feels a little strange.>>539301031I mean he specifically says "let's see what this book can do!" and it flies him into the air with great power; similar to his 1 where he just opens the book to read it and the pages turn while sucking in life from all nearby enemies; it's very much a Necronomicon situation. It's not the most creative ultimate in the world but given he is trying to keep the book handcuffed to him and away from anyone else and wants to summon the patron specifically JUST to get rid of the book indicates to me it's probably trying to escape or has the capability to destroy the world with spells it has within or something. So it letting him fly into the air and slam down in a massive explosion seems resonable enough. Then his 2 and 3 are moves Abrams has himself.
>>539295996might wanna get that checked out.by a doctor.
>>539301031>but why the donkey kong slam?>>539301474>I mean he specifically says "let's see what this book can do!" and it flies him into the air with great power; similar to his 1 where he just opens the book to read it and the pages turn while sucking in life from all nearby enemies; it's very much a Necronomicon situation. It's not the most creative ultimate in the world but given he is trying to keep the book handcuffed to him and away from anyone else and wants to summon the patron specifically JUST to get rid of the book indicates to me it's probably trying to escape or has the capability to destroy the world with spells it has within or something. So it letting him fly into the air and slam down in a massive explosion seems resonable enough. Then his 2 and 3 are moves Abrams has himself.The book is handcuffed to him because it tries to fly away. His ultimate is literally the book doing that, in-universe it's not Abrams in control of the bookHe even says>When this thing goes flying away, I'll be readyor something like that
>get mirage for the first time in forever>tornado a mo and krill>ping shoots to 400 for a good 3 minutes afterwards and the ui bugs the fuck outWhat the fuck>>539277789Purposefully getting grabbed by a lash ult while I have debuff remover so he throws me into his team and the stun time is shortened so I can grab his greedy ass in it too
>>539301474He's supposedly a dock worker by day or something, even though his fucking decorations make him seem more like a mountain climberI assume he just flogs shit on the docks/wharf/etc for the hell of it
>it's another team that does really well in the early game then pisses it all away doing fuckall for 20 minutes
>teammate calls to do mid>everyone jerks off for thirty seconds because they have downs and can't figure out what they want to buy from the shop>by the time they get to midboss everyone on the other team has respawned>they contest rejuv lose rejuv everyone die patron taken game lost ooga booga
Heroic Aura and vampiric burst on Gunbrams is criminally good.
>>539263286His muscle definition is totally fucked ever since the shader update, he has weird black streaks on his arms. Concept is ok but Mo needs the Abrams treatment. Krill looks weird and his bullet sling isn't even properly modeled, not to mention the gun itself makes no sense.
>pop warden ult entering midboss fight>spend the entire time getting chain CC'd, can't do shit besides stand there with ult>win anyways because lmao 50% resists+leechhe really needs a nerf to late game strength
I like that Mo is just a giant mole man that beats the shit out of people. No magic, no gimmicks, not a demon, he's just a really big Mole personI hope they never give him voice lines. The moment they give him some stupid grunts or other noises will totally ruin it. I also love his footstep sound effects.
>>539302853the little rat holds them down with a taser tho
>>539303017Your point?
>>539303173magic negro
>>539303223A taser isn't magic bro... plus that's not Mo using it.
>>539303017The taser doesn't qualify as magic. They're basically two goons.
>>539302076>lash works a shit wagie joblashbros...
>youll be fine without me, ms shelly though? she needs mekino line from bepop wtf..?
>>539303342He does it because he enjoys the exercise, he probably makes plenty of money as a prize fighter.
>>539263130No, people just aren't playing him correctly. The spirit build is incredibly predictable and makes it so you can't do anything else. You should build either gun or melee and play him like a ganker. They should be terrified to step away from walkers because of your presence.
Why didn't Ms. Shelly just build a doctor? Is she stupid?
>I've seen my share of whites kelvin, but you? You're a 'menschWhat did the shopkeeper mean by this
>Laning as Abrams with Doorman as my partner against Holliday and Geist>Constant barrage of pokes and AoEs so struggling to survive>We unlock our ults>Proceed to run their shit with non-stop chain CCsThe struggle was worth it
We should create our own lore iceberg and of course fill it with stupid headcanon. Miss Shelly built the patrons.
>Aw man, I just downed this brewski and now Im BLASTED!I think this one was too much on the nose
>>539303453>play gun doorman>plink someone with an express headshot for 1000 damageit's a good feel
>>539303490He says wights not whites
>>539303673McGinnis is actually retarded and all her technology is powered by her own psychic WAAAGH! that she's totally unaware of.
>>539301159were you actually in low prio?it tells you in the bottom left and how many wins you have left
>>539303904Anon... it's a shitpost
which toon is best for doing nothing but shooting troopers all game? mole man can get around and escape ganks and kill them with burrow but maybe doorman would do that better?pls help im scared of confrontations
>>539304183Games!
i like the vampire brat
Man, I am not having a great time.
>>539304260show damage by source, if it's 90% from her ult then kill yourself
Why are the heroes fighting eachother?Couldn't they all just team up alongside one patron to kill the other and then everyone gets their wish granted?Valve????!!!!
>>539304370Also, I hate that they changed Death Slam's area to a spheroid. It's so much harder to land.
>>539304183mirage. just m1 objectives and teleport away>>539304391>I'm only giving six wishes, assholes.
>>539304382
>>539304451>only 6 wishesSo who gets to wish, Mo or Krill?
>>539304509mo doesn't talk much, and krill speaks for both of them 99% of the time and has both of their best interests at heartthey're effectively a symbiotic organism with krill as the mouthpiece
>>539304509They probably want the same thing.
>>539304509mo is enslaved by krill
>>539303998yup, only 1 win left because I got matched WITH the same guy blatantly aimbotting for once
>>539304839fair enough, may your final win be soon inshallah
if one of them died during the summoning, do you think Mo and krill would just blow their wish on reviving the other one
what are your hopes for eventual character concepts that get into the game (not counting stuff like Priest or Cadence that are already datamined)? the setting is varied enough that they could throw in a pretty big variety of heroes and have them all fit well>Jekyll and Hyde swap-style character>Mummy hero based off King Tut's tomb being found in 1922>dedicated Werewolf character unless they make that Shiv>haunted WW1/WW2 soldier
>>539305114that'd be cute
>>539305173Confederate soldier ghost if they had any balls
Any tips on how to handle midgame better? I've gotten to the point that I've gotten sorta consistent with winning lane but I fall hard during mid game. Feels like I don't farm enough. I can still kinda keep up late game by being patient about when to jump in during a fight.
>>539305413Cultist sacrifice is good on every single hero in the game
are the patrons we fight the final form? thats it?
>>539305552Obviously not since they need the other one to die to reach full power
QUESTION: I got raped in lane and lost my guardian quick, the enemy is rotating to other lanes.Should we both go help the lane getting ganked, should only one of us or should we ignore the other lane getting raped and get as much farm and guardian damage as possible.QUESTION 2 : Same scenario but this time two of our lanes got raped. Is the game already over?
>>539305801If you can take the guardian on your lane with the enemy having rotated, do that first. Otherwise send your best brooler and have one person left to get lane soulsTwo lost lanes sucks but it's not the end of the game just yet, just hope that drifter wasn't in one of those lanes and won't farm your team the entirety of midgame
>>539305801Do you see everyone on the map having a massive brool somewhere else? Yeah go push the lane. Losing lane is the not the end of the world, as long as you keep your cool and don't feed you will get the money.
>>539305801Depending on your hero you can just go all in on their guardian and suicide for it assuming you have the damage
Fighting your urge to join the giant BROOL on the opposite side of the map is the hardest challenge of deadlock.
>lane against spirit heroes>build spirit resist, win lane>forget to check everyone else's builds after lane>4/6 of the enemy team went gun all in on gunShiiieeeeeetttttt
>>539305801if you are weak, joining the fight isn't going to actually contribute anything.take advantage of their absence and push the lane, take the objective if they ignore you. when you are poor, dying to the enemy doesn't give shit (to an extent, this is not a licence to feed).worst case scenario: they use 4 players to take one of your guardians while you get one for free by yourself.
>>539306596>pick Victor>5 of the 6 players on the enemy team went all spirit>tell my team to focus the enemy haze who went gun>facetank everyone else and win 1v5
>>539304370Looks like matchmaking pitied me.
Why is Lash called an "initiator" when he is much better suited for finishing fights?
i really want to enjoy this game, i even got an invite early before the massive intake wave last yearbut theres just so much bullshit and crap constantly going on all timemaybe im just used to other mobas (league mainly) but being able to tower dive on guardians just feels wrongusing all my movement kit to disengage but the enemy team can still catch up to me is constantly tiring and exhaustingthe last game i was in had an abrams that could run you down from midboss all the way to your base entrance with nothing you could do even after using multiple dashes and slows and cclosing your guardian in lane basically means that lane is lost because the enemy team can buy items and you canti have no idea how valve is going to slow this game down for the audience that it wants but they seriously need to rip this game apart at the seams and fundamentally remake iti remember thinking that one overwatch webm with 500000000 going on was hilarious but deadlock, a game by valve who autistically craft all of their games to be as accessible as possible, somehow tops that
>even match>running down my lane solo, distracting 2-3 enemies at a time, eventually take down their walker before ours with some help>Paige suddenly goes AFK>pause the game and ask>they go on a rant about how dogshit everyone is for not supporting them>a second teammate gives up and spends the rest of the match yelling at the Paige>we get steamrolled 4v6Why can't I just get normal teammates
>>539306923>leaguetard overwhelmedlmao, the jokes write themselves
>>539305173Silver age superhero. crazy occultist/egyptologist, cyborg monkey, just take a bunch of shit from hellboy.
Trophy Hunter is a shit item not only because it takes like 10 stacks before it feels like it would have been worth it even as a typical 3200 buy but because it makes you MORE team reliant than ever. The amount of times I've bought this item and my team just plays passive as fuck and only jungles is astounding, I'd rather get Cultist's especially because lategame on a supportive hero I'll probably buy transcendent cooldown anyways making its downtime even lesser
>>539306689also to add more advice, if they leave one player in lane to defend their objective against you, you are actually "winning".you're a weak player that's applying pressure to the map enough to keep someone locked in place, essentially trading your low net worth for a higher net worth player.obviously don't fight them, just keep pushing the lane up and taking any neutral stuff you can take without risking getting killed while doing it.this is how you come back from a shit lane.
I like Holliday’s personality but it would be better if she was more of Indiana Jones kind of character with her kit
some guy added me after a game to bitch me out in dms cos i called him a faggot in game kek
>>539307002>my game is overwhelming for the playerbase that the developer is trying to attract>that means im better!
Why does the female annoncer hams it up for Mina
>>539307250Go back, yordle nigger
>>539307232And now youre crying about it here boo hoo homophobe asshole lol
>>539307434i havent had league of legends installed since they removed twisted treeline
Mina is pretty darn cute for a hapa
>>539307323She's got a wish of her own when this all ends.I also find it really fucking funny how drawn out the lines are, you can actually hear her just running out of air at the end of the sentence
It's weird that they started to draw out the female patron voice lines again after they toned down the male ones. I get that it might be meant to make them more distinctive but the old male patron was so much better
>>539307232Based>>539307481Go back, gay queer homofaggot sodomite
You need really high IQ to play Doorman properly, Im gonna turn your match into a mind game that you cant possibly win.
>wow i can't believe the team of 5 mute retards without a single ounce of methodology nor premeditation and 1 guy desperately handling all mental processing his the 5 deadweights ended up losingi hate mute dipshits i truly think there is nothing more useless in this game than dead silent pissweights who contribute absolutely nothing to the global map state besides no calorie kills that result in zero map progress because they were kills gained while they let their objectives be eaten
>>539307232>>539307814Same guy btw
>Pick heavy comp>No proper M1 carry>Team just dies pushing walkers instead of actually trying to get picks so we can push objectives safelyGenuinely the ONLY time I get teammates that want to push objectives is when they are on heroes that actually can't wtf bro
>>539307812True, I miss the senile old guy going "PAWWWKETTTT"
>>539307232this happened to me too, he invited me to his discord and we are now friends
>>539308101When are you gonna suck his cock?
>>539308197I'm not keen on that
>huge update!>many new heroes!>2 weeks later>game is already deadlmfao, this game is a disaster, it will fail so fucking bad when they launch this shit, they should just gut it right now so they don't embarrass themselves once more launching a game no one wants
>>5393082604/10
How do I stop myself on building Trophy Collector on characters that benefit from ability range, movespeed and health? It's just so comfy.>>539307167I actually never thought about it that way.
there should be an item that makes your bullets homing so i don't have to aim
>>539308671splitshot
I JUST LOST A FUCKING GAME BECAUSE MY GEIST ULTED A 1HP DRIFTER AND HEALED HIM TO 30%I'M SO GODDAMNED FUCKING ANGRY
>>539307481he was being a faggot its not my fault. i just wanted an excuse to post the funny lash image chill yo boots lil nigga>>539307918no its not
>Win slightly too many games in a row>Yoshi sends me THREE games with Vyper in my team>Unsurprisingly all were losses
Any Deadlock channel that is>NOT smurfing>NOT a personality vacuum>interesting or funny builds>somewhat educative>also posts lossesI am willing to forget point number 2 (personality vacuum).
>Built for feral dog knotsVindictaMina>Built for ugly bastard rapeIvyPaige>Built for dominating and humiliating meWraithGeist
>>539310427Midlock
>>539259505>Worst gun in the gameYeah if you disregard the entire passive
>>539310514Hello, Baxter society? Yes, this guy right here.
>>539310541Isn't that guy smurfing? He always has a different nickname when playing.
>>539310837he changes his name to be le funny but he's always at the same rank, i don't think he's a smurf
Do we know anything about the kits of any of the unreleased characters?
>>539306860>jumps in>ults for picks>fucks off>just press 2 and 1 on enemies and repeatyeah initiatior
>>539310918you can access them in the sanbox via a console command
>>539310872Cool, I'll watch some of his vids then.
>>539310581do the math
what is to be done with vindicta?she's just grey talon but worse.i think she needs a total rework(she can keep stake but everything else gotta go)
>>539311046She starts with 51 gun dps and gets 72 gun dps at 2600 souls, hardly the worst in the game, especially when she can increase her weapon dps by building spirit
>>539311365Make her snipe not neutered so she can retvrn and stop being near exclusively a debuff spammer
>>539311365Jar-based karate
Is there a reason haze players don't buy weakening/crippling headshot?
>Guts various fun builds on heroes, guts Vindicta, Bebop, Calico, etc>Slap on the wrist nerfs for seven and warden despite them being god tier for a majority of this games lifespanWhat the fuck is Yoshi's major malfunction?
I've always hated Gay Talon players, Still do.
>>539306860His ult. Are you dumb? Also being able to come in and nuke someone for half their health is a hell of a way to initiate
>>539312028t. john hathorne
>>539310427There isn't too much room for funny builds. Interesting builds? Maybe but they're usually not popular for a reason. You don't want to hear about my support Haze build
>Trophy collector now gives 2 stacks for a killItem fixed
>>539312116>support haze buildLet me guess, you can rescue beam people while you're invis?
>>539312163It's more or less just building more purple support items and then a lot of duration. People don't often know this but Haze's sleep dagger has a "wake up time" which is essentially how long it takes for you be able to regain full control after getting hit and this scales with spirit and duration. Remember that dagger doesn't exit invis either
>>539311365Merge her with gay talons kit and make talon into another heroAssassinate(gets piercing), flight (fast version from old vindicta), stake, murder of crows (talon bird, applies more dangerous crow in AoE, tier 5 applies ancient apparition ice blast shatter effect)
>>539305173Teddy roosevelt with nanomachines, son
>>539312576Don't you dare take grandma aware from meDoes Valve have a history of gutting kits and character presonalities like Riot does? I hated that about League, revisiting the game and seeing oh every character I like is now fundamentally a new and worse character. Did they do that in Dota 2?
>>539311483what about other heroes who can increase dps 1:1 by building bullet damage
>>539312898I'm not saying remove talon himself, just make him into a tracker or something instead of a bowmanHis ulti can be riding a spirit horse bareback
>>539312116Bunny build on Sinclair or Son Goku build on Bebop is funny though.
>>539305173Appalachian moonshiner mothman
>>539305173skeleton gangster
>>539312995they're not building burst damage simultaneously are they
are there more cost efficient items then these for raising the damage of paradox carbine?
>>539305173>werewolfwould prefer a wererapter
>>539313981would prefer Dio on my lap
The lane rapists. Sans Pocket.
>>539313406>RATTLE EM BOYSAl cabone - weapon: tommy gun1) pro bono - throw your head, paralyzing cask from witch doctor2) big boned - summon brute moron henchman w machine gun at target location, shoots at nearby targets and does melee strikes at close enemy heroes. Recasting it orders him to walk to a location, or you can unsummon him to refund the cooldown. 2 minute long cooldown if he dies. Copies your orange items.3) ambush - puts cloaking field on ground that hides allies4) tombstone from dota
>>539307250>Valve trying to attract anyoneLol lmao, you'll get a pandering hoe for every lol/ow/marvel subhuman to latch onto and thats about it
>>539305173>skinwalker>mothman>angel
Why did they remove being able to parry while channeling some skills?
>>539314642>skellingtonswill never be added, thank Chyna for that
>Dreamed I was playing Haze while eating spaghetti I have never played Haze
>>539315463this meme is retarded
>>539315701I am just nooticing things, in fact I'm ready to bet one coupon for free Ivy footjob that Ghost Rider in Marvel Rivals will be the non skeleton version.
>>539315701except it's right chang. Look at Karthus
>>539315640A couple nights ago I dreamt Holliday couldn't barrel punch anymore.
>>539315852i'm not looking at league slop, they re-added skeleton king to dota and that should be the end of that
>>539315852he probably meant china will have a standalone version so it doesn't affect valve's vision
>>539316038>this meme is retarded>what about X>LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOUnot a good look broski...
>>539316127Skeleton king is in dota, go bone yourself
>>539316127yes what about your slop game where every male is turned into a twink and every female into a e-thot whore?has nothing to do with valve
>>539316038>it's a retarded meme. We, I mean they, don't fear skeletons>ok what about this game increasingly going Mao's way>I AM NOT LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE MY EYES SQUINT TOO MUCH
>>539316285I'm not a LoLbab nor a Dotard though>>539316176Wasn't he added back as a FOMO paid cosmetic ?
>>539316325yes, what about *this game that has nothing to do with Deadlock*? please elaborate
I really hope they redesign McGinnis, the character is anti-fun personified. Are there any decent counters to turret-maxxing that I am too retarded to think of? Alchemical fire?
Yamato is fucking unplayable, dogshit hero, worse than Bebop. Does no fucking damage, has no regen, no health, should come close to fight. You can't even farm camps because that bitch has a slow gun and no fucking damage with AOE.Absolute Dogshit of a hero. Her ultimate is a fucking joke that gives you a fucking resist for 3 or 5 seconds, what a trash
>>539315701>>539315827>>539315852protip this was always the overly cautious decisions of western gamedevs. meanwhile that pixar movie about skeletons was extremely popular in china.
>>539316463>check the calendar>it's not opposite day
>>539316546BRO THEY WERE NOT SKELETONS, THEY WERE SPIRITS AND CHINA SAID IT WAS OKAY TO VIEW WITH THEIR EYES. ALL FORMS OF APPROVAL
>>539316546It's just double standards.
I love playing Lash because he relies on movement and positioning instead of aiming.
>>539316789>instead of aimingoh sweet sister...
>>539316463Skill issue
>>539316983post some score with top player yamato let's see them numbers
>>539317035statistically, she's pretty much the Most Balanced character in the game. ~50% winrate in high skill brackets.
>Our Paradox gets stuck in a bush>I tell the enemy team to try to kill her>Yamato responds>We arrange a localized truceThis was a very nice moment.
>>539317269Next time just tell them to type killme in the console
>>539317108this is irrelevant because they all have teams
>>539316463>No AoE>500 damage nuke with short cooldown that hits at least 2 creeps
>>539317302Oh, I didn't know that. I'll remember this.
>>539317269there's an unstick button if you hover over player feedback in the menu
>>539317365Wow, I would have never known that.
>>539317345By the time you go camps it's 320 at best you fuckwit, so you have to use it 4 times (waste 1 minute/camp)
>>539306923>using all my movement kit to disengage but the enemy team can still catch up to me is constantly tiring and exhaustingUnironically learn to move betterMovement in this game has A LOT of tech and a fuckhuge skillceiling, you can totallly break the ankles of movement characters with mcginnis (2 base stamina) if you know what you're doing and they don't. Check some movement guides and routes on youtube and try to replicate them ingame, even if you can't do it in the heat of the moment at first just by trying you'll get better at it
>>539317495This may stagger you, but you can also use your gun in-between abilities.
>>539317547Let's see your best game on Yamato, you're not ashamed of it right?
do you ever think of how many fights you lost because you had to reload when you could have been sliding and had like 30-40% more ammo for that fight
>>539317831do you ever think of how many fights you lost because you had to reposition when you could have been moving and had like 30-40% more stamina for that fight
>>539255815so youve been quitting tons of matches for a reason or another? seems like you deserve it. no one deserves to be teamed up with someone who cant stay in game consistently
>>539317831No, however I am quite content about all the amount of souls I am NOT missing while doing a Sinner's Machine while my team is brooling at the other end of the map.
>>539316463hero is just bad atm and hard to playfun though
what is brooling?
>>539319029getting into fights with no plan or objective
>>539319029brawling
>>539319029Fighting 2+ players constantly with no real progress towards any objective.Usually in mid lane.
>>539319029The never-ending pursuit of FUN
>>539319029Team fight to long that player who died in it had time to respawn and rejoin the fight. This usually has no purpose and gives the enemy opportunities to split push and deliver the urn.
>>53929774390% of aim training is lowering your sensitivity
Does Disarming Hex affect Haze's ultimate?
>>539320147Nothing stops channeled abilities besides stuns, even bnuuy doesn't stop them.
>>539319029constant fighting/teamfightingnote that it doesn't mean 'you guys got into a skirmish but then both sides broke it off to try and do objectives', it means you both keep slamming into each other to the complete detriment of one team or the other with zero regard for anything except kills and performance, basically just running it down mid to the point you can die, respawn, and rejoin the ongoing brool
I FUCKING LOVE ABRAMSI LOVE FIGHTING CONSTANTLY AND BEING OUTNUMBERED AND ALONEYES I AM BEHIND SOULS YES I AM ALCHEMIST YES I AM RARELY THE REASON WE WON BUT I JUST FUCKING LOVE BROOLING SO MUCH
>>539320417...and curse and gt trap
>>539320776forgot pic
Brooling is the most fun part of the game, if they released a perpetual brool gamemode it would be the most popular
>>539321110I prefer splitpushing and dodging fights
>>539320776Based BROOL Bro
>>539321110Maybe so, but in the same a good story/gameplay in a porn game enriches the purpose of why the fucking is happening, the build up and manoeuvring into the big fights feels like you're playing out a story in of itself in a way.
>IT'S A GAME OF BROOLING, FUCK OBJECTIVES>but uh i wont fight till 40 minute without pushing and hit the jungle
Is Witchmail good on Lash? The threshold is pretty low, and so it the delay between procs.
>>539321334Problem is nearly every "story" plays out the same>all guardians down by minute 10 ish>all walkers down by minute 20 ish>game over by minute 30-40 ishAnything that doesn't follow this formula is a stomp>>539321356I prefer launch games where nobody farmed jungle or got mid boss and just brool'd for 20 minutes. A 30 minute game used to be considered long. Those were the days
>>539321494question for the deadlock nerds, the 75 damage is before or after the resistances ?
>>539321632>>539321632>>539321632
>>539320147it doesn't stop the channel but it stops her from shooting
>>539321779So she'll just be uselessly spinning