A Bridge Too Far - EditionPrevious thread: >>539169225>Official sitehttps://warthunder.com/>Fan created contenthttps://live.warthunder.com/>Wikis with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanicshttps://wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Pagehttps://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old forums archive:https://pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEChttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivershttps://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfA https://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFU https://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ https://youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc >Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:https://youtu.be/AsmGiyODPuM https://youtu.be/vUJJ94NwH_g https://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk >Guided weapons statisticshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78>What tanks have thermals and their generationshttps://thunderview.net/thermals/>All manner of statistics and datahttps://statshark.net/>Someone sending you runes?https://translate.yandex.com/ocrReminder: Remember what the general said; we're the cavalry. It would be bad form to arrive in advance of schedule.Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP34btpjeok
nation for this feel?
Can't be bothered to screenshot the entire three pages of datamines from today, this seems the most important part. The T58 is also getting APCBC and the Buk had its speed gate changed (should be harder to notch now).
Today I will remind them
Korea for Japan!
im saving the white race in warthunder
>>539428515The perfect subtree... but instead we got ladyboyslop
>>539428598blud is broke </3
>>539428598nice post uberslave
>>539428391>statpadding against Soviet "pilots"
>>539429126VFTF?
>no devblog yetcould it be around the corner?
>>539428391>fw 190s literally farmed sovietniggers irl>in game all so(y)viet fighters are UFOs that run circles around focke wulfs
>>539429295anything israeli
>>539429963What was the weapon used here?
>>539430202wired antitank missile ACKEd a ka52
>>539430202ligma-pp
>>539428678ww2 gamewhere were korea in ww2?
>>539431186Anton knows, I hope
Fuck Anton
>>539431529>Yes Anton>Yes pidor>Add Korea to Japan immediately
>>539431804such cute eyes
>>539429963was that a tow?based
is toptier just mbt vs mbt slops?where are all the diversity?
>>539433072sometimes you get killed by helicopters and planes
>>539433072In the 9.3-10.3 area where there are dozens of 2000s ifvs and light tanks that should be at 11.7tams > 11.3-11.7type 16 >11.7sprut > 11.7cv90 > 11.0 - 11.7m1128 > 11.7patria > 11.72s38 > 12.0
>>539433072in the bottom six tiers
>shoot IS-3 cannon at M41>shell ricochets off the engine deck, then ricochets off the bottom of his turret>then nonpenssome looney tunes shit man...
>>539434218forgot pic
>>539430202Stugna
sakosniper said 9.3 is a great br since it doesnt get uptiers that muchis this true?doesnt sound like it
play 10 games and report your findings
when are the tech tree rearrangements going live?been waiting forever cuz itll allow me to skip over a bunch of useless british slop
>>539436325after the updateMight not even be on the day, since even in the dev server the tech tree changes aren't applied yet
>>5394362089.3 gets you uptiered into soviet 10.3 premium spam>t.9.3 german premium enjoyer
why is the US tree so fucking boringthe US has made probably 10x the amount of wacky shit than anyone else but has less stuff than Germany and USSR
I finally got the Falconthis thing is actually fun AF first thing in the british tree I like SPAA just makes so much sense for how fucked this game isI think it basically cuts down on how much you get gaijined which is the main pointI think the rigging of shells to be good one match, then bad the other is actually like, you shoot 30 shells which perform normally, then the game is coded so the next 20 perform poorly, so just having a mass of shit to fire essentially removes how the game is riggedalthough i did bounce about 40 shells off the side of a Turm III yesterday so maybe the rigging is per match idk
um....i think i just found out why these things are impossible to killthey didn't model the ammo in them
>>539438410hover over the bright red thing
>>539438063told youthe savior of british isnt foxits falcontoo bad ZA is now 8.7 but you can still easily uptier falcon all the way to 9.3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtY2eDK7ZA>The 82 Accusations against GaijinDamn, the Chinese community is going Martin Luther mode against Gaijin, it's like the 95 Theses nailed to the church door>they are directing their anger at War Thunder's creative director, BVVD (Vyacheslav Bulannikov) even though he is apparently "pretty awesome"Chat is this true? Is BVVD worthy of praise?
>>539439239>the battle of ai slop vs chinese slop
cant wait for VT4 on thai tree
>>539439239>NOOOOOO JAPAN CANNOT HAVE CHINESE VEHICLE THAT CHINA HAS NEVER USED AND MADE PURELY FOR EXPORT!gaijin should just go nuclear on chinks and remove all japanese/ussr/usa vehicles from chink tree:)
>>539438509ah
AHEMI have decided to play Germany today.
>>539439239>KF-41 goes to Hungary but not Germany>VT-4 goes to China but not Thailandhmmm
>>539441146>germany saffers because we don't get another autocannon niggerwagon
>>539428598but you're not white...
>>539428598but you're playing the USSR?
>>539441146Isn't the KF-41 like, just the Hungarian Puma?
>>539439901If the western playerbase doesn't chimpout as much as the chinksects you are not getting this one
>>539442224Yeah, but it's still a vehicle made by Germany so both nations should get it
>>539442474Probably, but the KF-41 is redundant in the German tree.
grant I from the BP shop worth getting?i wanna grind levels for these
>>539442537>T30 and LosatbasedLosat is a meme that is only good on long range maps though.
>>539442537sure, it's just a Lee with slightly better turret armor, rapes in downtiers and gets raped in uptiers
>>539428598wrong hand
update whenare the mossies getting FM updates or are they just being copy/pasted five times
>>539443028what do you think?>We is of give you lot of tech tree vehicle this update yes?))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I wish there was a custom map so I could practice aerial gunnery. Like a furball of 20 AI planes, flying around at different speeds angles in directions, so I can just fly through back and forth making passes trying to gun them down.
>play TA 152 H-1>by 6.3 P-51's are already 1000m above me by the time I see them>Hornets are already 200000m above me by the time I see themWhat the fuck is the point of this thing? Am I just meant to get dabbed on by Hornets and P-51s?
>>539444161set up a test flight of slow planes for your allies and enemies, and then take something more advanced and you can do just that
>>539444368You're supposed to spawn it in grb for free kills when you get 1 assist and die
>>539443028afaik they're all basic bitch mossies, at most they have slightly different mounting points for ordnance or trade MGs for a (useless) radarso even if they bother to give them different flight models based on those modifications, they shouldnt be too different from each otherdont think there was any mention of updates to the FM for the mosquitos in general
>>539445058the H-1 doesn't have AP belts though?
>>539445357At 6.3 there are still tons of open tops
>MiG-21S (R-13-300) — S-24 rockets and bombs have been removed from the outer hardpoints. The UB32 pod has been removed from the inner hardpoints. Still doesn't fix the core issue with this thing, the base bombing.
>shoot at an AD-2>see his munitions blow up under his wing>hit???I think I hit an HVAR which is like 5kg+ of explosives, how the fuck is that just a '''hit''' gaijin?
>>539446851there are a lot of planes(bombers) that get that even when exploding their bombsno idea how or why
>>539447007feels like Gaijin just flips a coin when you blow up their munitions on whether or not it will do anythingit should do something 100% of the fucking timenot a single plane in WW2 is surviving having over 5kg of explosives blown up directly under their wing
in for quoi
>dev server changelog updated>"In sessions with a Battle Rating of 10.7 and above, the airfields are now protected by ItO 90M, Strela-2M and ZSU-23-4 vehicles.">ItO 90MHoly nice.
>>539447876absolutely breaking the balls of every other jet you encounter with FRENCH superiority
>>539442537I broke down and bought GE for upping crew skillI don't regret itabout 300 GE got me from level 9 to level 40
What can I do for you king /wtg/?
>>539448308remove the a-7d from the game so I don't have to play that genuine piece of shit anymore
>>539448308Buy me an is7 and obj 296 coupon
>>539446851munition detonation used to happen a lot more often but I guess subhumans bitched until a*ton fucked it all uprather than cucking you with a gigantic explosion 'hit' every time you manage to hit them, they should give munitions a chance to explode instead or just say fuck bomberniggers and chinks and make them blow up all the time>>539448308delete China from the game
>>539448487it seems like big bombers ALWAYS blow up if you punch into their bomb bay, but strike aircraft dont always do so
>>539448487is this some funny business like the bombs being "armed" causing them to react this way or was all the luftwaffe needed were some API rounds for their bomber intercepting?
>>539449045I mean, IRL those bombers would be flying in formation and escorted by dozens of allied fighters
So we have no devblog todayEither the announcement is tomorrorw 7 in the morning or in an hourOr am i coping?
>>539449330oh yeah I'm not arguing that bombers in this game shouldn't be getting raped from all sides but the consistency of that clip seems a little weird
>>539449505They reopened the dev server, that can only mean the update isn't coming this week.
>>539449505You are coping.
i can't fucking believe that a over third of all EELs were lost to fire
>>539447992I'm sorry what did you say again? Al I see is food for me J-10CE
>>539450775>jeet incompetence means the system is badkek
>>539450775Good thing this is a video game!
>>539450894incompetent enemy vs incompetent enemy
In a battle of retards vs retards luck, chance, FoW dictate everything.
>>539450894>jeets trained by the french suffer a humiliating loss (like france)>jeets trained china wipe the floor with themrafaile clearly is a shit jet, even the philippines didn't allow rafaile to show up at the new aircraft contest
Reminder that clouds are client side so cannot be used for cover.
>>539448487>munition detonation used to happen a lot more often but I guess subhumans bitched until a*ton fucked it all upIt's not realistic to blow up bombs by shooting at them.There are only a few accounts of WW2 bombers suffering a sympathetic detonation of their payload. "Catastrophic kills" happened to tanks all the time because propellants are made of nitroglycerin and nitrocellulose, which are sensitive. The explosives themselves were all based on TNT which is extremely insensitive (TNT wasn't even realized to be an explosive until 30 years after its invention because it's so difficult to detonate). Aerial bombs also had thick metal cases which incidentally acted like armor.
this is the only non-coomer thread on this entire board
>>539451149>>539450989>incompetentPaki's are far less incompetent than jeets because they are less corrupt.India is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, from top to bottom, so they are FAR more incompetent than Paki's.
>>539450775
>>539450775please maintain a harmonious atmosphere!
Is it going to be worth it at 8.3 with its new reload?
>>539451924what is the new reload at?
>>5394520802.6
>>539452232Oh shit that's nearly it's IRL reload speed lmao
"Fucking finally have this tank researched, been playing for weeks.. Let's buy it, 300k ain't too ba-""You must purchase the previous vehicle before you can buy this."AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>539451534wtf!? So thats why others were able to aim at me. Fucking Anton fix you game
>>539451924>Another amerimutt niggerbunkerEven with a 2.5s reload, these subhumans will manage a negative K/D with it.
>>539451534proof?>>539452505high possibility you're getting nigged by some guy chasing nametags while in a cloud because team spotting is cancer
That one korean youtube channel posted a vid about the coelian getting improved pen Anyone more online than me know if that change is still on?
Dumb frogposter, they're 50% off in 6 weeks.
>>539452528>8.3>niggerbunkerAre you retarded?
>>539452345It's 2.58 to be exact on the dev server and it received the T30's APHE shell. No HE shell however.
can you answer this >>>/v/720903486 to me?
>>539452828higher tier vehicles don't play like low tier ones
>>539452528>RHS at 8.3-9.3>niggerbunker
>>539452828There's no point. High ranks are lame and gay anyway.You play the vehicle you have fun with, all there is to it.
>>539452928what's the difference?
>>539452828the first post gave a good response I feel
>>539452957so i should just stick with 3.0? that's where i've had the most fungoing up just feels bad cause everything is unupgraded again>>539452974how does it change? is it more fun or more strategic?
>>539452828top tier is best because there is no uptier. modern vehicles are much more fun and badass.
>>539452971low tier = funhigh tier = not fun
>>539452473>lion problemsThis is how Gaijin convinces people to become naval chads
>>539453280>top tier is best because there is no uptierbut it takes ages to level up to that. its just weird that i have to spend months, only for the chance of not having someone 1 tier above my tanks>>539453339what makes high tier not fun? if it gets worse with tier, why does every steam review have over 3k hours?
>>539453442>what makes high tier not funrussia
>>539453516russian vehicles or russian players?and how?
>>539453593boththey suck to play against
>>539453269>is it more fun or more strategic?Depends on what tier you're asking about. For me, there's different kinds of fun to be had until about br 8, where everything turns into fast vehicles with guns that can penetrate anything. Some people find that fun as well I guess.
>>539453269>so i should just stick with 3.0? that's where i've had the most funYou should do what you want. I have, for all intents and purposes, all vehicles unlocked, and I play mostly from 7.7-10.3. I play ~2br vehicles more than 13br vehicles.
>me sitting in a bush with my zealot looking through binoculars and shooting down anything that flies
>>539454505Why are you so fat?
>>539454617he's gluttonmaxxing
vftf?
Hope we dont have to wait for the esport to end like last time for update to drop
>>539454617he's simply enjoying life
>activate get 5 kills wager>proceed to have 4 of the worst fucking games of my life in a rowI'm fucking WASHED bros...
>>539453442>what makes high tier not fun? if it gets worse with tier, why does every steam review have over 3k hours?The majority of players with access to high tier vehicles didn't play enough to access them naturally, they paid for access. The loud minority of people who complain about high tier are the minority who actually played the game enough to form an opinion, and they play whatever they want to play.
>>539455119activate 500 boosters
>>539453374I spent everything on the arbuz gacha yet i'm over 10kk already thanks to the bote needful.Also pulled Yuudachi from it.
>>539456047Ok now in English, please.
someone talk me out of picking up mudsucking where i left off a couple years ago and finishing the italian tree (i got to rank VII)
>>539456350Ok now in English, please.
>>539442537It's worth it to add another 75mm vehicle to the very solid 2.7 lineup the US has plus it gets a smoke launcher so you don't have to carry smoke shells.
>>539456350tanks are gay
https://youtu.be/4YuIR6MeeJk?t=540>Spookston gets a flamethrower kill over the hillsideCan flamethrowers actually be viable weapons by arcing the flames over an obstacle to score an indirect fire kill?
>>539457201Yeah, if you play 20 games a day I'm sure you can get one or two kills that way
>in drone>chinky chang in AMX-30 Super>scout him>notice where he is aiming>he's looking directly at my tank that has 3 fucking houses between me and himWhy are they so blatant in their cheating?
who is paying porkies in reddit to deny russian bias? also why do people get so worked up and their blood pressure so high because of pixels on the dev server? >BUKM3 waiting room
>>539457498bro there's only 360 degrees for him to look.....
>>539454505This but with Type 93
>
>puts nato to shame
>>539457502Remunder that russshit tanks are extremely overpowered and anyone denying otherwise is coping
>>539457502>porkiesThey're in constant denial of Russian bias IRL.
>>539458597i hope you like getting CREAMED
>>539458687I'm sure this is true in your head,.
>>539451593high quality postit would have been better if there was a pee stain tho
>>539458743I'm not sure if it's that gaijin has convinced themselves that it's true or that they make it so for funding and support from the russian gov
>>539458743everyone who voted against crew stun should be euthanized (in Minecraft)
>>539458743did you try being less racysisst?look at you assaulting poor innocent russia player while he doesn't know you're there...
>>539458597squidley boat
>>539451924It will be OP in good players hands, dogshit in average players hands. Prepare for youtube sloppers deluge of OMG LOL THIS THING IS CRACKED LOL vids
>>539460460the fuck are (you) going about, you know damn well that you are a shitter and you get hit 10 times for every shot you hit on the enemy, so we saved you with the voteYou don't even deserve it
>>539461348... i will forever be dark green
>>539458743how does anyone explain ammo turning black and it not killing the tank?
>>539461439i believe in you anonbrobecause you believed in me
>>539461348I do not understand thunderskilli have better stats than a lot of players rated higher than me on it
>>539461651RNG
>>539461790Because they use the comparative rating system.If there's a guy that did 10 matches and has 10 wins and nothing else, or a guy that has 50k kills and 200 deaths in the lowtier german flakbus, they are higher in comparative rating than everyone else.It's a flawed system but for the average playerbase it's pretty solid,When you check numbers about comparative rating, always check number of matches and *what* he plays to get a more clear window.A "Very good player" that plays everything and every tier will always shit on a player that is "exceptional player" but only uses to sealclub lowtier shitters or maybe only play in squadrons, even if it's not like this on paper.
finally, time to fuck around with it in test sail for hours
man after a couple of weeks into /hdg/ and Helldivers in general i understand that Gaijin are way more competent than we give them credit for
mig-23ml is pretty fun except when i have to fight f-18c premiums like holy moly it's unfair, PD radar with IOG + DL sparrows is insane, i have two fuckin IOG SARH missiles over here and a janky radar, cmon
>>539463509guess im glad i only put 20 hours into that game then
>>539428385Damn, if only the 155mm APCBC shell wasn't one of the most ridiculously gimped things in the game I might be more excited.
>>539463594that entire BR range is fucked and only fun if your plane can dogfight everything or you have ARH missiles>mig23 vs f18c early>f18c early vs f15c/su27sm/gripen/f2
is the gepard with SAM's worth getting?
can someone explain to me why a BMD-4M barrel/mantlet eats 120mm APFSDS and takes no damage without it being ussrmonkey premium bias?
>>539427627hello comrade would you prefer english or russian
>>539464585yeah, it is fucked. the f18c early gets a lot of downtiers where it just fucking slays though. I have it and regularly get 4-6 kill games. honestly, it feels kinda criminally undertiered at 12.3 when the mig-29 is at 12.7 with less missiles. like sure it gets an HMD but damn.
>>539465491Yeah, you can find spots like that on any given tank basically
>>539465491Due to infinite calculations, the round bit you hit has to be penetrated lenghtwise, so you are looking at 40cm of line of sight armor
Now that they figured out the differential steering with trailers thanks to the Elde, i WANT AND DEMAND my 2S39 MAGNOLIAGAYJIN GIB PLEASE
>>539466115>>539466165Maybe i am just racist but I feel like an aluminum box shouldn't get this calculation lol
>>539466605Aim literally anywhere else.
>mfw is-4 side armor(exactly where the driver is) eats my T34 AP shell without any damageok gaijin,i didn't want to play anyway
>>539467164did you shoot the upper side like a retard, or the lower side like a smart man
>>539466904it was the only part I could see and shoot, and I did not know they had weird calculations like that
>>539467241>the driver sidecome on bro you can figure this out
>>539467164game detected your racyism :)
>>539467876flat 160mm or angled 160mm bro
>>539466904>>539467713i saw a Lada car bouncing off a 152mm HEAT shell in real life
>>539468071Anon...
>>539468730I don't know man, I need to ask him. Maybe he made the mistake of shooting for the upper half of the hull? If he aimed for the lower 60% of the hull he should've penetrated the armor, maybe he did and got gaijined? He could also just be a retard
>>539463509qrd?
>>539466605There's a high volume of aluminum there.
>>539452612>Proof?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSy6oFmNxfIDifferent clients show different clouds in the same match, you can have full cloud cover and the enemy will have clear skies.
>>539469182They put down a new strain of bugs called the "rupture strain", called "The Diggers" by the community because they burrow underground and shank you.Basically, if you were the host, it was IMPOSSIBLE for you to dodge their attacks and you needed to pay the stim (healtpack) tax, no other way.The other 3 players in the lobby wouldn't be affected by this and they would dodge them normally.Today they tried to fixed this behaviour... and they fixed it so much that these enemies now cannot dodged by anyone and unless you have a 360° constant explosion-bubble you cannot evade them at all.It has gotten so retarded that they removed the whole faction today and said "lmao sorry we'll give it back to you in 5 weeks"Also they discovered that every helldiver armour is loaded on you, but all of them (excluding the one you chose) are made invisible, so a single helldiver has millions of polygons for no reason at all.There's a ton of other things tho lmao, saving grace is the game is actually fun
>>539451534This is also the case with sandstorms on sandy maps in ground forces
>>539470324Does this affect ground battles too? cuz i swear i've used cloud cover to hide from enemy aircraft
>see slavebeast truck running around>load HE>fat nigger crests over the hill>fire at him instead to blind and load APHE>gets evaporated???>move on>inna niggerwagon, match about to end>fire APHE at plane>explodes into dust>mfw didn't even hit himthis was after getting 9(nine) full uptiers in a row in ARB btw)))))))))))))))))))
>>539470605you might get lucky and have clouds in a similar position, but it's not reliable and seems to be another way gaijin can rig RNG.
>>539470514>Also they discovered that every helldiver armour is loaded on you, but all of them (excluding the one you chose) are made invisible, so a single helldiver has millions of polygons for no reason at all.Do they hide them by scaling the verts to [0,0,0]? Because in that case those millions of polygons aren't drawn by the GPU as they have no area and no normals to calculate. So it's not really a problem other than making the character model file bigger.
IFW?
>>539470324https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--MxLmOFr7QDamn it even changes the brightness of the map making things more visible.
I unironically only play war thunder for the SPAAs.I crave SAMs.
>>539470605I had a very suspect sabre once who I figured was cheating managed to keep track of me perfectly through thick clouds in GRB, turns out it may have been this.
>>539473509it is pretty fun to launch a SAM and see an oblivious plane get smacked out of the sky, or to see them try to pop flares too late
>bonus RP is calculated from base RP>inefficiency penalty is calculated from total RP earned))))))))
>>539473998house always wins
>>539473998>>bonus RP is calculated from base RP>also doesn't count towards modification research or crew RP))
>>539463509The helldivers devs are utterly bottom tier in ideas, the core game is the only thing they landed and if you couldn't see this in a the first few months, like by march, you are probably also retarded. They managed to drive away almost all of their players by repeated bad balancing and communication, the game was bugged and updates were slow. From over 400k to 10k, it really is an achievement.
>>539473998>>539474564>this small change could literally take this game to 1 million monthly players.
Does loader skill affect ready rack reload speed?
>>539472212SAM rat but you will be annoyed by the stock missile.
>F-15C is deemed better than E just because it's at a lower BR so it doesn't have to fight rafales as often, and C5s dont matter anywaydark days usbros...
>>539477762I mean they would get a SEA Eurofighter or Gripen E (if they bought it kek)
>log in for 8 days in a row>daily login counter is still stuck at day 3What the fuck
>teammate shoots me down>still have to pay the repair costsHuh?
>shoot AIM-9M a bomber nigger in a F-15E>for no apparent reason, a random F-16 flies into the ground a couple of seconds later>get kickedwhat
>don't log in>winit just twerks
>>539479119You shot a target your radar was locked on
Did anyone get banned for thee bp glitch?
>>539479731nta but what if
>>539479731>>539480363let me re-phrase.1. I shoot a 9M and kill friendly F-15E thats going to bomb targets, not play air to air. 2. A couple of seconds later, a F-16C that I did not target or shoot at all (not even radar lock him or target him with IR HMD btw) crashes, he flew into the ground.3. I get notified about a second teamkill, pay my lions and get inmmediatly kicked from the game.first time this has happened to me.
>>539480620>tk dude for just enjoying his strike aircraftsub 1.0 kd shitter detected, dude probably gets a higher score than you just by killing ground targets
Realistically, what is the next nation to get their own tree?
>>539481083Turkey
>>539480763Please spare me your seething, theres a perfectly balanced game mode for air to ground missions. kill yourself.
>>539481241>perfectly balanced game mode for air to ground missions. (x)Also lmao getting butthurt some dude is ground pounding, you should go pound your asshole more. Pic related
>>539480620Imagine being this bad
>>539481635Being honest, I never tk for this petty of a reason but we had not even spawned in yet and he was already spammingthe reason he was bombing instead of doing air to air in all chat (no one asked btw).He was on the opposite team next game so I killed him before he could drop his bombload again. I love cucking retards that do air to ground.
>trying to play without STABholy fuck this is AWFUL
>see unverifiedly tank-shaped mass>press rangefind>PANZER->BANG>-ZIEL ZERSTORTanyone else?
>>539483935No, only you.
Gaijin's balancing is in a shitterAre you really telling me these tanks are equal?
>>539486905yea roughly
>>539486905Gaijin's balancing is solely about player statistics.
>missclick trying to open the friends list>picrel
>>539486975Come on nowT-62: LRF, composite armor, great round for 9.0 (pretty much a faster M833), decent mobilityObj 435: KPVT, decent mobility.... that's it.T-62 is better in every important metric
>>539483935Yep, funny how the crew calls out the range in half the time the rangefinder does
>being blind and flying above trail level>lobs r-24rkek
>>539486905I'm not sure why the 435 is 9.0 now tho unless they upgraded it's ammo since I last saw it had the same ammo as the normal T-62 (read: heat and dogshit steel apfsds) meanwhile the T-62M-1 (used to) have thermals and apfsds good enough to take into 10.3-10.7 matches as a backup vehicle.
Servers broke
>>539489514Works on my pc
>>539488026It's fun learning numbers in languages you don't speak. I was pretty good with Hebrew numbers up to ~1500 in 50m increments, but then I didn't play for 2 weeks and forgot hem all again.
>>539486905the second tank is actually better14.5 rapes LVs
>>539466206Do the russians ever make good vehicles
>>539486905I agree with you t-62 should be 9.3, t-62m1 should be 9.7 and t-72a should be 10.0
>>539491293>Omg russian tanks are so SHIT no wonder they're losin-*They put a roofmounted KPVT or Dshka*>based Ivan pls take my kidneys
I realized spading the soviet tech tree is not enough, gaijin at some point added the current day modern dark green camo russians use, and its triggering my autism real bad seeing my BVM with ugly ww2 era greenNow i have to grind the zov camouflage which is on every single tier 6 and 7
>>539491876The commander's .50 on american tanks are great for air defense in low tier. They (usually) have excellent elevation
Is there any good british tier 7 non-premium aircraft?
>>539492935>good not really but the 2 jaguars are alright
>>539492602*great at any tier,also they don't have the amazing elevation of the Dshka,that shit goes almost 90 degrees but the bad thing is the ammo,it really goes fast
>>539466206Where Nonas?Where Vena?Where Lotos?
>>539492935The Phantom FGR.2 and FG1 are very good if you are not a base bomber retard and know how to missle truck
>>539492935ehhhhhhhhhhh there really isn't much there in the first place and two of them are identical.
>P-63A-10 gets grindable silverplate camouflage, extra faux-Soviet red target camo in addition to stock pissplane target camo>P-63C-5 only gets pisscum paint and nothing else, not even community skinswhy?
>>539493307NOW we are talking quality here
>>539493443Aren't they just worse version of american ones with aim-7f's?
>>539493307>more dogshit to bloat the tres (even more)(You) are part of the problem
>>539493783In my experience, Skyflash (DF) are better than sparrows. I spaded all the tree Phagtoms and the A2A Tornado in the game so i had my fair share of Sparrows and Skyflash (DF)It's a shame they don't get the Skyflash SuperTEMP but still
>>539493307We need them sooner than later.
>>539494260There's no such thing as "bloat" in this game.Why the else would you play the game if not for unlimited (*) wacky vehicles in existance? It seems like you are in a race to reach top tier and everything that is between your RankIII premium and RankVIII is "bloat"That's retarded. TT is literally what you DON'T play
>>539494649>wackygarbage that's going to be forgotten in a month after release like the object 775
3BM59 when? same lenght as 3BM60 but its made out of DU
>>539494839>object 775kino
>>539494419How are they better? They are just same missiles but with less range
TML is back
is camm-er still broken?
>>539457201Bro gets put into the most braindead bot lobbies and then has the audacity to say "nuh uh gaijin doesnt give me bot lobbies, I have only pure skill carrying me" Like we get it bro your teammates are danila and grisha, age 9
>Dogfight P.400>Critical hit>Critical hit>Critical hit>Critical hit>It still won't go down>Run out of ammo>It chase me for four minutes all the way to the run way, firing the entire time, without stopping>Still flying perfectly the whole wayCritical hits shouldn't count as crits unless it's a fatal shot.
>>539498875The times I get enemy teams like that is like 1 out of every 10 games or less. Otherwise I have to play like a fucking rat to get more than 2 kills per death.
>>539452828That's not the gameplay loop. You should play what you find fun. For me that's mostly ~5.7.
>>539498875His stats are honestly shit if you consider the total battles played and the amount of those in which he is playing only a single vehicle and you really cannot reliably win with only 1 vehicle just due to all the bullshit that can happen in any match, and like all youtubers they only show the clips where they're doing good in and never the ones where they get their shit pushed in which is more common than not.
>guy named "Ariete Certezza" that only plays that tank>chink flagIs this some sort of trend chinkbots have?
Why is the Spitfire so OP?
>>539499486I really prefer BPA_Jon when it comes to youtubers, he's a way better player but also tends to show those absolute bullshit moments more often. Spookstons whole attitude just annoys me a lot of the time.
>>539499513For some reasons it's ALWAYS chinks that name their accounts after some kind of specific weapon/military vehicle. They're all probably just extremely autistic with the added downside of being a bug creature.
>>539499486There are a couple content creators that don't exclusively show collected footage farmed by leaving tons of matches early after something doesn't go right, usually with just one vehicle. _fofo for example.Bad stats are also subjective. Spookston, and pretty much all content creators for that matter, are easily in the 98th percentile, just due to how bad the average player is. Shit, everyone in this general is probably above 95%.defyn is an interesting outlier for air (that mode doesn't suffer from early leaving anyways though). He's very good at reading matches, resulting in him performing better than most of the tournament/sqb sweats that are better in terms of mechanical skill.
I was thinking about how they said they would never add missiles to this game and then one day they put out the flaming arrow patch and bam we have missiles.I thought it was just a few years ago but nope. That shit was close to a decade ago.Insane to think I already had thousands of hours in this game in 2016.
>>539500005>loses to a yak3
>>539493783Aim9e-2 and skyflash start to turn immediately off the rail So it's much better in a head on 9f and super temp have better range but they need 1-2 second before they start turning
>>539442537LOSAT single handheldly wins you ground assault which is a free 300% RP/SL booster everyday
I watched the oddball guy stream once. It was just 30 minutes of him seething and getting shit on. Completely different than his youtube videos. I wish more people streamed.
>>539451593where's the discharge stainswhere's the pee stainswhere's the sweatyou just know a virgin drew this
>>539501186Yeah funny how different livestreams are than the videos they put out
>>539451534clouds ARE client side but the server uses the same seed for everyone, in theory the clouds should be at the very least similar minus desync and graphical settings>>539452828you get more rewards per kill/actions as you go through the ranks (but the required RP to unlock things increases too)it's not really about getting stronger, but just advancing through "time">>539453269>so i should just stick with 3.0? that's where i've had the most funit's all up to yousome people grind up to top tier because they like shiny new toys every update but then return to their fun space (usually late WWII - cold war BRs) to actually have funsome other people actually enjoy the clusterfuck that is top tiersome saw a vehicle they really liked so they want to unlock itit's all personal preference
>Go too fast>Plane nose starts corkscrewing like crazy>Can't even hit a bomber flying in a straight line when I'm right behind itI hate how going fast just completely fucks your handling even worse than if you're stalling.
>>539458743>be in autocannon>see him turning his turret your way>not shooting his breechthis one is on you lil gup
>>539463509gaijin at the very least does resemble an actual company. You rarely see dev servers in other games nowadays. They announce BR/balance changes beforehand and will usually correct them if enough people chimp outhell we even had the roadmap and the APHE (rigged) vote, at the very least, this does give the illusion of free will to playersgaijin may be utterly abysmal in some aspects, but credit where credit is due
>>539501647>some people grind up to top tier because they like shiny new toys every update but then return to their fun space (usually late WWII - cold war BRs) to actually have funI don't know why I keep doing this. Will probably get the AH-64E this match, do the atrocious grind for the JAGM, play the thing two dozen matches and then go back to 6.3-7.0. I dont even do badly at top tier, it just doesn't stay fun for more than a week.
around WARTG never relaxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOMl9MpzWv0&t=295s
>>539502104Same. I like the feeling of spading top tier vehicles, but once it is spaded I won't really play it for a while
>>539502134based
BERSAGLIO CORPITOTARGET DESTROYED
>>539500245There was a time ruspiglets had a squadron called 3OF26 back when their HE shell was instakill anywhere
>>539501647>clouds ARE client side but the server uses the same seed for everyone, in theory the clouds should be at the very least similar minus desync and graphical settingsDude that >>539473047 is not a matter of desynch that's entirely different results, the replay files on the server all use the same seed (which is different from the client seeds if you download them).
>>539502134>HEROIC [WARTG] CHAD shits on a beta cuck content creator who whores xherself for some monthly handouts by gayjinbased. That's why that faggot spookston has the privacy option ON
>>539502957>the replay files on the server all use the same seedso what's the chimpout about then? who cares if the replays have a different cloud?
>>539503413because they are different in game as well, the downloaded client replays show this the ones hosted on gaijin's servers use a whole other one to cover their tracks and make them appear uniform.
>>539503562so you got no proof other than replays? got it
>404 had a squadronWhy are you lying? The squadron is Chinese, members are almost all Chinese and there's not a single cyrillic username in the roster, Liden & Denz is a foreigner language center apparently and i'm pretty sure a native would find errors in the description text for all i personally understood is that it's not free for all and currently requires friend recommendation/invitation to join, they're Russiaboos is all.
>OIIINK BLYAT ITS A LIE PIDOR OINK OINK SQUEEE!!! ITS JUST CHINESE BLYAT
Ok now in English, please, i don't speak oplot.
>>539504615The second video posted about this is clearly not replays, you have not earned your 0.000001 GJN.
But oplot is based & redpilled though?
>>539505635this, it mogs the tranny-90
It's a T-80UD after all, designed by Nikolai Popov of Ust-Labinsk.
>>539506095
So when is the next big update supposed to come out?
>>539507197december
>>539507197February
>>5395071972-3 days frenread this until it happens
>>539506095Designed by Kharkiv design bureau
Morozov Bureau, named after Alexander Morozov of Oryol.
And the Kharkov factory was built by the Russian Locomotive and Mechanical Joint-Stock Company established in 1895 in St. Petersburg, Imperial Russia.
i was about to go on but already got banned twice keep it war thunderyou niggers
I just think it's pretty neat!
Holy shit, a discount I'll actually use.
>>539509159desgined, run, and operated by russians, btw
>>539510317>75%Damn, Anton has blessed you
>>539510317I got fucking 5% of the german G.91 earlier
>>539509201>>539509438>>539510327the THREMBOTRVKELEAR TRVKES that destroyed the KEKraine
Ukrainian gameUkrainian board
Why didn't WW2 SPAA have armor that can withstand pea shooters? Did they want to be murdered by planes that badly?
I thought the Russian T-series were bad and terrible eastern sloppa and hohols were going to win with Western materiel instead...? wait. THIS ISN'T WAR THUNDER RELATED AT ALL
>>539513743because most planes aren't strafing SPAA, and SPAA are usually massed, so there's dozens of them firing at planesWW2 SPAA was more about quantity
Donetsk is Welsh btw
>>539513785my eastern european sloppa > your eastern european sloppaaka piggers be pigging
>Vperyod? Yest, Vperyod!
>>539513743Because strafing AA was genuinely the stupidest thing a pilot could do.
>Popadanie!
>>539513743My assumption is that it's because real life war does not play out the same way it does in war thunder. CAS is already far more effective in game than it was IRL.
papa Daniel yes pidorchimping out No pidoropen the threadha ha ha
>>539514048Took you long enough to finally get it right.
How do you actually pen IS tds?
I deserve better bait than this, first hohol /k/riggery and now falseflags of negative quality?
>>539514593What are you fighting them with? Usually the driver viewport is a small, but effective target
>>539514593Which ones exactly, and with what gun?
China
https://ordnance.com/40mm-xm576e1-high-velocity-buckshot-round-with-xm199-aluminum-case.htmlmk19 with this thing on the M1A2 when? i want total dronenigger death
>I got kill credit on a helicopter that was nowhere near me and I never shot at and crashed traveling to the battlefieldwhat?
>>539515334I bought a 30mm practice round for a BMP-2 from this site a year ago kek
>>539515494Might've been the closest one to it
Now i realized its not "boyo", its "poyo" and shit makes sense now, poyo must be russian for "position"still have no idea how papa daniel aka "papodanye" means "target hit"
>>539514593You mean like, ISU-152/ISU-122? Their armor isn't exactly great unless you're stuck with a short 75mm/76mm gun than you're only option is to take out the gun and shoot the side.
>>539515334for what purpose
>>539516523also, zeleny stoshina, when you hear it, it almost sounds like "enemy destroyed" (or enemy explosioned kek)
>>539511258Due to his immense generosity I've decided to not only buy the vehicle but also leave him a tip (I'm buying a skin insted of grinding for it)
>>539516692two words: Recon Micro
>>539515334>>539517356ask gaijin for a stryker SHORAD instead with proximity fuse rounds for the M230, because as far as I am aware no Mk19 has never been fitted to an abrams, unless some grunts decided to pull a fast one and immediately got chewed up by their COon the contrary M109's have Mk19's occasionally
>>539515334>>539517356>>539518171or the air defense variant of the JLTV, with the same M230 and stingers, if you'd like something faster and smaller
>windows suddenly decided to chimp out over my fan control softwarehow come this driver is vulnerable but the exact same one used by battleye is fine?
I've killed like one or two big ass bombers with this thing so far (and missed many more lined up kills) but it's okay because going fast is fun, my first jet is fun, and big gun on a plane is fun
>shoot T-72 with a 9kg HE shell to the turret>overpressure>shoot T-72 with a 9kg HESH to the turret>nothing))))how and why does this happen, if we pretend the HESH spall does not exists, its still an HE shell without the fragmentation jacket
>>539521486because gaijin doesn't model most of the shells in this game correctly
>>539521561i want to assume having both the properties of HE and the extra spall mechanic from HESH is 2hard2code so if you hit something that HESH can spall it stops behaving like an HE shell so if it "spalls" into a T-72s composite and fails it does nothing, while regular HE explodes into the hull roof and killsif this is the case, gaijin should just change HESH into only having the properties of HE, even if bongoloids seethe about it, 9kg HESH = 9kg HE
>>539521486stop being FUCKING RACIST
>>539518171its more like canister shot, like a full auto shotgun
>>539521864well I regret to inform you that the Mk19 isn't even compatible with the buckshot rounds, as they are low pressure 40mm, not high pressure 40mmthe low pressure rounds used in an M203 or other infantry grenade launcher are not the same as the high pressure Mk19 rounds, so yes it could hypothetically shoot it, it wouldn't cycle whatsoever because the round doesn't have enough pressure to cycle it
>>539521486HESH is so beyond fucked it's not even funny>But we bugg fixed itToo bad they couldn't make it perform correctly at the same time.
>>539520897>Fan control softwareDoes it use that antiquated RGB software that is a massive security flaw? (Because some hobbyist wrote it in around the xp era and rather than coding their own a bunch of companies just copied it and never updated it just reusing it again and again.)
What will the 14.3 USA jet be? Super hornet? 15EX? 16V? F-22A?
gotta love the new decals
"let's try coastal battles, first time. i have eagles to spare to buy me a premium. this will be fun!">7minute wait time for a game>finally get inside"oh shit here we go, 3, 2, 1..">I am in full speed 94km/h blasting forward and there's a fucking island 40meters ahead>steer clear and head for the first cap>i come around the island and instantly 5 ships are shooting at me>its like i'm an airplane in a storm of flak, explosions everywhere>see a tiny rectangle heading towards me>shoot at it for a second>its dead>second later I'm deadThat was like 20 seconds total.What the fuck is coastal battle?
>>539523403>What will the 14.3 USA jet be?food for me rafalebest jet in the worldsimple ass
Apex predator
>>539521212I will never understand people like you
>>539524528I beg to differ
>>539524575>>539524984how come the real life rafagle could not just pull an insta 180 and outrun the missile?how come the real life rafaggot had a missile lock him up and stay locked from like 120km away without ever losing lock for no reason like it happens in gamehow come the J-10s easily defeated a swarm of MICAsalmost like the rafale in game is made up bullshit
Im sure this will be fun right?
>instakilled by some nigger shitstain with a 35mm spaawhen is the "AP-I" changed to solid shot?
>>539526815hm... we hear your complaints about how unfair this is yes? So we are changing the ZSU-37-2 AP-T rounds into APHE rounds with same penetration characteristic for fairness
>>539527343>nigger vehicles for shitters in almost every nation lose their noskill niggershell>only one (1) russian thing that is a slow piece of shit with zero depressionfair trade anton, i accept, where do i sign for this to happen
>>539527469you is of not understandingevery keep """"""""""AP-I"""""""""" round and russia get APHE too for balanz ))))))))))))))
>>539524897To have fun while failing and learning is the best you can hope for. At least something like a jet lets you fail a little more quickly because of it's speed. I'm just posting because I am happy that I am having fun again in spite of my failures. I hope you are having fun too, anon...I didn't rush it/paypig if that's what you mean. F2P my way here and I have a lineup of the same BR tonks too. I had fun along the way but the grind starts to feel like one around this point once you start looking forward to unlocking new vehicles.
>>539527525ANTOOOONREMOVE ALL 35MM APHE SHELLS, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
WTF are these teams bro AIIEEEEE
>>539527895Had a game like that the other day. 6 people on my team got kills. We somehow won because the top 3 basically carried it.
>>539527895
why am i forced to be permanently opressed by ARH spam in my m4k with just 2 radar missiles or my f-16A with 6 aim-9M?sparrow f-15s dont have it much better either with the eternal spam of ARH either, you have an amraam but cant do anything oppressive back
>>539528018>average cherrypicked footage from a youtuber
>>539527895>1 tank kill>7 plane killsbased CASNEGRO destroyer
>rusnegroid t34 eats 10 shots into the breech, perfectly snapshots me while going full speed
>>539530628ZOV
>>539530628is of historical accuracy xaxaxaxa
>>539530628It's actually amazing how handheld Tier II and II USSR is
>>539531048*Tier II and III
https://youtu.be/eOMl9MpzWv05:00Lmao wartg squadron
>yak9 irl was cannon fodder>in game nothing short of a spitfire or zero can dogfight the thing>even the yak 9k with the massive 45mm weighting it down, magical russian weightless metal
>>539523985take everything you know about naval and make it more retarded, et voila, you have made copestal>somehow 4 BRs isnt enough to decompress from speedboat with a fiddy to speedboat with a 40mm>half the maps are unplayable because the really fast boats can get behind spawns in a minute/ the really slow ones cant get anywhere at all>sea state 9 in every other match>400k RP and 1 million lions for a barge that gets BTFO'd by the filler bots in reserve destroyers>bottom 2 BRs is literally 2v2 and two dozen bots as its even deader than bluewater>80% of the vehicles are useless junk, if you're looking for something to take into bluewater battles, the reserve boat will do just fineits really only good for grindmaxxing eventsfunnily enough it does get one of the more fun gamemodes in the entire game (cap A+B to unlock C for win) but its exclusive to the 2 players+bots BRsthe only reason coastal exists is because anton knew larger vessels were hard(if not impossible) to incorporate into full mixed (air/ground/sea) battles and its the one waterbased thing the russians arent completely useless at
>>539534031Just give everything like 8x the health, smoke rounds. Shit to make cover and survive more than 1 hit.
https://warthunder.com/en/news/9705-shop-special-a-decal-and-p-47-p-51-discounts-for-us-air-forces-birthday-en>https://warthunder.com/en/news/9705-shop-special-a-decal-and-p-47-p-51-discounts-for-us-air-forces-birthday-enhttps://warthunder.com/en/news/9705-shop-special-a-decal-and-p-47-p-51-discounts-for-us-air-forces-birthday-en>https://warthunder.com/en/news/9705-shop-special-a-decal-and-p-47-p-51-discounts-for-us-air-forces-birthday-en
What are the best picks in the warbonds shop?>>539535069Unfortunate that the p38k is only available in the bundle
>>539534031Also the income is so fucking terrible. Copestall SL gain is somehow even lower than Ground AB. And the RP game is even fucking worse somehow.It took me 2 years of Event grinding in the PG02 to max out the Jap tree. And I made less money in 1000 matches of the PG02 than I did in 100 matches of any of my Tier 3 premium planes.
>>5395351946000 yellow chickens for a premium tier IV por favor ))))
>>539535069
>>539535168>Unfortunate that the p38k is only available in the bundleIt was literally just on sale last month for 3416 GEhttps://warthunder.com/en/news/9594-special-shop-decals-and-discounts-on-rare-vehicles-for-us-independence-day-en
I recently picked up WT so excuse the newfag question but about IFW, does this mean information for vehicle or something along those lines? From context that seems to be what it is.
>>539535365sales soon(ish)
>>539535483In For What
Dead website
>>539455160I'm pretty sure they're going to wait for the Mackensen event to end at leastTo avoid any screeching about time lost grinding while the servers updated
Vehicle for this feel?
>>539536438cent AVRE
>>539535474I wasn't willing to dump my coupons on the market at the time
Any reason to get Japanese Tiger now that Hungarian Tiger exists?
