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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8646 - Krack WonEdition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Animation
https://youtu.be/5ocBa8jTXUA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk #8 | Silver & Blaze
https://youtu.be/CNZgW0480go

>TailsTube #13 - Pit Crew
https://youtu.be/GiYfo0Wy2NA

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
EN: https://youtu.be/1nIhfo2X0oI
JP: https://youtu.be/BVoDsexw0NM

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>/sthg/ OP template:
https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone
https://tails.kicks-ass.net/
>AoStH
https://youtu.be/playlist?list=PLySo2SlSHPSOOGZM3_2Qun52hCaRNYW9y [Open]
>SatAM
https://youtu.be/playlist?list=PLVLLjN9wKHROAG1F4wnFFqp-cie7Wa-S0 [Open]
>Racing dialogue datamine:
EN: https://pastebin.com/kAx2DP5c
JP: https://pastebin.com/0vg53isp
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:
https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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First for Kurimu!
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FIRST
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>>539431690
>then Sonic the Hedgehog is not "Cool".
He is not
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CHARLIE THE CLERK???
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>>539431861
Yeah I'm thinking she's THE WIND
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>>539431901
He is though.

Sonic the Hedgehog is inherently cool. Always has been, always will be. The very concept of "Sonic the Hedgehog" as an idea is pure, raw COOLNESS incarnate. Genuine, actual coolness. The kind that can't be artificially replicated or forced. The most authentic kind of coolness.
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I'm very family friendly.
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Kirby is cooler than Sonic.
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>>539431968
Always has been
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FIRE GIGI
HE SHAT ON CHARLIE KIRK!!!
CHARLIE KIRK WAS KILLED BY A BIBI'S PSYOP, A TRANNY-COERCED MAN!!!
FIRE HIM!!!!!
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>>539432016
I am applying your logic
> if you push Tails down and treat him like just a wimpy loser nerd just to prop up Sonic as the cool guy
This is what happens
>then Sonic the Hedgehog is not "Cool".
Conclusion: he isn't
it's all a larp, he pretends to be cool and we pretend to be impressed.
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ARCHIE MADE SONIC THE BUTT OF THE JOKE

ARCHIE MADE THE SONIC FANDOM 100000000000000000X WORSE

YOUR SHITTY CHIPMUNK RETARDED WHORE WILL NEVER BE CANON

I WILL NEVER ACCEPT IDW AS WORSE WHEN ARCHIE LITERALLY SHITSTAINED THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE

ARCHIE WAS POOP

SHIT

LITERAL SCAT MATERIAL
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>>539431824
He was gay, Tails Prower?
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Did anybody else play this mario 64 romhack? it was pretty short but it was fun and you can tell it had a good amount of effort put in
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>>539432129
What about Satam? Isn't Archie more like the games than Satam?
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Question
Could Sonic still be like the wind if he lacked his super-speed
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We only fuck plants here.
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>>539432196
Honestly a cream solo game platformer would be fun as fuck.
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Hahahahahahaha. Even the OP. Even the thread theme. No one wants to talk abiut Sonic right now. Holy shit things are bad for this franchise. Crossworlds is right around the corner, but because its a boring Kartslop microtransaction fast, drama around the fucking comic is talked about instead. You can't make this shit up. Holy shit, Sonic fucking sucks dick these days, worse than normal. We could at LEAST have the thread be about SAGExpo 2025, if we're gonna be off-topic.
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>>539432129
As long as I have to deal with IDW fans trying to claim it's in character I will have no respect for IDW or people who defend it
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>>539432448
Sonic media is on topic in /sthg/.
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>>539431901
>FaggotxFaggot
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However, even though Sonic as an idea is inherently cool, he has still been severely mishandled. The prime candidate being the meta era, and any other case where "SONIC IS COOL" is focused on so heavily that it destroys itself.

You can not elevate Sonic to simply be "the cool one" at the expense of everyone else. Sonic the Hedgehog is a symbol. An ideal. He inspires us simply by existing. Tails & Amy are characters that directly represent the influence Sonic has, they've become stronger because of him. Knuckles exists to directly challenge and compete with Sonic, as the counter-argument against Sonic's core thesis. Blaze is the 'Sonic' of a parallel world. Shadow, the dark mirror of Sonic. Silver, light mirror of Sonic and the 'Sonic' of the distant future, representing Sonic's legacy. Cream is a sidekick to Amy, a role that can only exist once Amy herself has grown into a Sonic-like figure as well, thus further highlighting just how influential Sonic is, for a girl that at first was simply just a cheerleader for him now leading her own team with her own kid sidekick following her.

Sonic claims to not be a "Hero", and yet his own coolness is directly reflected by the very existence of the Sonic Heroes.

>>539432106
>This is what happens
Not always.

The classic era to the adventure era didn't push Tails down, it lifted him up. Same with everybody else. It's only when the rest of the cast got attacked by critics that this stopped happened. And this directly hurts Sonic's image, especially because the games had to put so much emphasis on Sonic alone while directly hindering everybody else, and the writing quality started suffering as well, that Sonic at some point just stopped being "Cool"... Meaning, Sonic at some point stopped being "SONIC".
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>>539432451
Kill yourself, Richmunk. Go back to grooming Krack.
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why is idw sonic such a little bitch
why do idw fans defend this little bitch
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>>539432506
By all means, discuss away. It just shows me Sonic is definitively on the same tier as Undertale and Homestuck. Its not about the source material anymore and it shows. Funny stuff.
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IDW Sonic is just Archie but inclusive and nonbinary
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>>539432426
Thats basically what the romhack is
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>>539432603
I don't care about what things are "supposed to be". 06 was supposed to be good. I only take what I see. and I don't see what you preach for.

>>539432515
Have some Inutrasha then
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>>539432605
Gyatt damn Cream mogs Amy lmao.
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>>539432129
Archie Sonic never ruined the mainline games. The idw troons want their shit in the games for whatever reason. This is despite the fact sally is and was infinitely more popular
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>>539432867
Kill yourself Richmunk.
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>>539432826
So you've never played a pre-meta era game?
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>>539432867
Don't reply to the rage baiter
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I hate to be that guy but Sonic fans all make terrible voice actors. They all just try and emulate the inflections from modern day anime dubs or WORSE they try and imitate the 4Kids Sonic X Dub.
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>>539432196
>Fun re-imaginings of Mario enemies as Sonic enemies
>Multiple costumes
>NiGHTS crossover
>Bump, Sage, Bait and Hocus cameos
>Retarded, but endearing and fun excuse of a plot
>A lot of neat continuity fanservice (pic related)
>The flight mechanic doesn't break the game too much
I love it
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>>539432723
*but lame and for steven universe faggots
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>>539432647
>Its not about the source material anymore
It never was, /sthg/ was always about Sonic, generally, not specifically.
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>>539432913
He's correct, tho.
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All this effort for snca
The absolute state of IDW autists
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>>539432826
>06 was supposed to be good
See, I was the type of guy who saw 06 stuff online and thought it was cool. Even knowing how criticized it was, I didn't care, I liked what I saw. And when I played the game myself and experienced the bugs and glitches first and... I still thought Sonic 06 was cool.
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>>539432921
I only play pre meta era games. I like to pretend anything after 2005 never existed.
But if we take the present status quo into consideration which is the direction sonic team are moving into >>539432106
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>>539433021
>>539432995
>>539432723
Kill yourself.
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>>539432647
No. Outside of your gay online bubble. People only care about the games.
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>>539432826
>06 was supposed to be good.
And it is.
>b-b-but I was told it's bad and also I am transgender and a nigger!
So?
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>>539432448
We've got bad actors stirring shit since early morning and bring off-site drama.
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>>539433029
its a cute design thoughbeit
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>>539433127
Cry about it, doesn't make it not true.
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>>539433029
god forbid being autistic about this franchise
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>>539432129
Scat jokes are based IDWtankie
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>>539433160
>it is
you also think drinking loo water is good?
>tranny lol
not everyone likes cut their peepee like how you do. scram
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Someone falseflagging as an IDWfag acting as if IDW has the capacity to have purists is pretty funny actually. Keep it up.
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>>539433235
Vlad and tkos is behind this too, aren't they? The former is pretty buttbuddies with Sparky and Slashy.
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>>539433235
You'd think the jannies would do their job in purging off topic threads, but their not here, there hasn't been a Tailsfag spamming yet, so theyre likely asleep.
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>>539433114
The thing is that the "present status quo" is largely not even "real".

I mean, like, 'Internally' Sonic Team considers the classic to adventure era stuff to be the core of the brand and all the characters and whatever haven't "Changed" since then at all. It's largely a bunch of external factors that all hold the franchise back from being what it used to be.

Like how Sonic Team will describe the characters and lore on Sonic Channel as if nothing has changed since back then, but the actual games are so heavily influenced by either western writers or the critics that don't even like Sonic, or SEGA as a corporation holding back Sonic Team because of those critics or game reception or whatever else, that the end product we get is alien to what Sonic Team envisions the franchise to actually be, creating mass dissonance between everyone involved.
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>>539433029
>Neck
Fucksake man. I hate the IDW fandom.
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>>539432723
So it's Archie but lame and gay?
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>>539433285
My peepee is perfectly intact and big and sexy and attractive and (You) want to suck it (I won't let you though), which proves your mind is just too small to appreciate a fine game.
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>>539433382
tl;dr: "potential"
business as usual in the sonic ip
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>>539433440
Such is the trend for all modern comics. Absolute Batman has been good tho
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>>539433235
I remember this guy saying " I tried to redeem krack but I can't *sobs*" this guy is such a faggot lmaoo
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>>539433510
Potential that's based in what actually did exist before, until external factors caused it to implode, and so all we want is to go back to how things were, and Sonic Team feels the same, but it's difficult actually making it happen again. But not impossible, and that's what keeps the "potential" alive.
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Genuine question. IDW is extremely controversial for game pursts. They hate it for two main reasons
>The world doesn't resemble the games
>Everyone is out of character ("Vulnerable")

Fans of IDW have straight up given up on defending the characterizations and just get mad at game purists for continuing to push the subject.

We have a manga, but people only seem to use it to shit on IDW for being off brand.
We are 80 issues in. Do you believe that IDW can turn things around and appeal to hardcore fans of the games? Would that be a good or a bad idea?
IDW has an audience, and if Silver is any indication, suddenly shifting the art direction/tone to match more closely from the games is off-putting to longtime IDW fans. The comic has been running for nearly a decade after all. It's only reasonable that there are people who are fans of the characterizations it put forth and wouldn't like to see them replaced.
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Douge
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Fans wants X
Sonic Team also wants X

But what we all get is Y
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>>539433382
>>539433615
bullshit, Sonic Team loves "modern" Sonic, especially 06.
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>>539433654
At this point we may need to have another reboot. I don't see them recovering from the sparkledog tranny oc
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>>539433654
>Do you believe that IDW can turn things around and appeal to hardcore fans of the games?
Not after what they made Sonic say in issue 50.
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>>539433750
Sonic Team wants X
Fans want X
The public as a whole wants X
SEGA wants Y
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Kill all Archiepedos.
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>>539433654
Nah IDW fucking sucks.
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>watching SAGExpo 25
>3D games flash by
>like 6 of them are just wireframe rooms
>bunch of engines that I legit forgot about
>they use boost
>kill me
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>>539433767
This answer is one of the reasons why I wonder if the idea of "Fixing IDW" is a lost cause.
Let's say IDW issue 85 onward is 100% in-character with no deviations from the games whatsoever.
That's still 80 issues of "new interpretation" of the Sonic characters where Amy is tougher, Sonic and silver are "more grounded" and Shadow is nerfed.
It runs the risk of losing the IDW fandom to appease game fans who are already so pissed off that they'll never tolerate the setting of IDW.
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>>539433756
06 is just more Adventure era stuff, when you really think about it. That's why the fall out of 06's failure practically killed everything the Adventure games did and we ended up with the Meta Era.
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>>539433339
How many cancerous niggers do you guys got in this general?
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Archie will never come back
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>>539433909
Exactly.
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>>539433978
Yeah, that's a huge investment for something finally in character if they even could pull it off. But to be fair, its not like fuck all happens in IDW. It could be an Archie situation where you tell nobody to start at 160, so they dont go through the torrent of dohshit before it.
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Are IDW fans rare in these threads? I see people shitting on it constantly.
The last namefag to openly defend IDW was run out and called a non-fan.
The greatest defense I ever see of it posted here is "At least it's not doing the things Archie did". Fair I guess?
I dono't see people eager to see what happens next. Whenever I see people speak positively about IDW, it's almost always about how they wish to have sex with the OCs.
Scrapnik Island is the only IDW content I ever see unconditional love for around here. Am I wrong?
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Sonic Team versus SEGA

Who wins!?
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>>539433996
Oh I thought you meant Adventure like Sonic Adventure for the Dreamcast.


So yes I agree, Sonic Team only cares for the classic era (including Adventure) and the Maekawa era.

>>539433909
>>539433750
Fans want "X".
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>>539433953
Boostshit and it's consequences.....
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>>539434221
Where you tell noobs*
Really don't know how that error snuck in.

>>539434230
People REALLY don't like when crying lesbians get the spotlight over cool adventures, as it turns out.
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>>539434230
>"At least it's not doing the things Archie did".
You could literally apply the same logic to other Sonic shit.
"At least it's not 06!"
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>>539433750
IDW wants D
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>>539433953
why anyone would make a boost game is beyond me, they all play the same.
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>>539434234
Always SEGA unfortunately, they are the higher ups.
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>>539434403
Why would that be the case, when IDW has all the "lesbian" characters?
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I don't care.

Archieshit will NEVER COME BACK

Let it go.
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>>539434289
>>539434415
I see people actually defend the fucking mechanic like it isn't just a run button. It has to be like a Stockholm syndrome thing at this point.
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>>539434230
These threads were once just idw troons. They've been a decline over the bad state of the comics and they fact these people don't care about the games
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>>539434415
Unleashed and Colors play nothing alike beyond the very superficial moveset that all work differently anyway. Neither of them has the trick system that's foundational to the original boost gameplay in Rush and Rush Adventure.
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>>539434367
>"At least it's not 06!"
this felt like a gutpunch
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>>539434484
I don't have to like archie to call the idw comics faggy. Its called being a fan of sonic and the games
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Just finished beating Fantasy Zone
Where's his father? Was Nack a former member of a specific army?
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>>539434654
Fuck off diaperfag
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>>539433953
>>539434289
>>539434415
>>539434539
What's wrong with the boost?
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>>539434559
For real. If you had to actually earn boost like in Rush, I would have much less of an issue with it. Like it can be easy to earn, I get that. Kids play the games and such. But these new boost games the meter is so ducking easy to get it's not fun to play.
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Why is someone trying really hard to force the idea that IDW is an improvement over Archie? Yeah no shit. Nobody in their right fucking mind thinks that annoying romance drama has any place in Sonic. That doesn't change the fact that IDW is grossly out of character and it being canon is straight up more damaging than Prime.
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>>539434704
Thats nasty. You idw troons project your gross shit at others.
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Making a Tangle rn
uuuurgh
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>>539430109
I'm more interested in Sonic Escape. It has him fighting Madara Uchiha and Goku Black.
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>Nobody in their right fucking mind thinks that annoying romance drama has any place in Sonic.
'06 did that too.
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>>539431759
dogshit op, go kill yourself
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>>539431759
amazing op, keep yourself safe
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So we all agree the Frontiers Spin Dash is better than the boost and should be the default going forward, right?
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>>539434849
Fuck me man lol
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>>539434849
06 while bad, wasn't about romance. It was more about Sonic caring about elise through its natrual escalation. It released at a time when the youtubers and reviewers were acting like fags at the thought of there being story or characrer work in these games.
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>>539431759
I'm indifferent to this OP, do what you want.
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>>539434849
Classic fags back in the 2000s wouldn't give a shit about the romance if it was Sally or Amy kissing Sonic, let's be honest now
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>>539435040
>It released at a time when the youtubers and reviewers were acting like fags at the thought of there being story or characrer work in these games.
Just like they did the same to Archie?
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>>539434731
Boost Mode was better and skillful
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>>539431759
Am I insane, why does she look like Evan
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>>539434869
Don't get angry. You types get all sorts of violent and lash out
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>>539434858
You are probably looking for actual sexually gratifying content but this is how it feels watching sonic underground
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>>539435137
Well no. Archie shit is just bad. It was given to people who didn't want to work on Sonic. At least its not as awful as the idw crap. Thats like steven universe tier shit.
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>>539434925
Yes, absolutely. I actually enjoyed using that a lot.
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>>539435196
Because of Sonia? Also I was asking which character would say the thing in the image
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>>539435298
>It was given to people who didn't want to work on Sonic.
Like 06?
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>>539435141
She's a gremlin version of Evan who is somehow more miserable
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>It was given to people who didn't want to work on Sonic.
That can be literally applied to 85% of all Sonic shit. Iizuka himself especially with Shadow game.
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>>539434849
No one liked that either.
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>>539434731
I have explained many times, but no matter. Boost is bad in its current modern form. Not only is it a skilless way to get speed, it incentivises developers to just make linear hallways, with enemies lined up in a row. I will admit Frontiers slightly improved the boost, but its hard to give it accolades when the levels were just straight ripped from other, better games. It's lazy. On all counts.
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Kinda wished Ian opened his trap during the Charlie Cancel
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>>539435408
Despite it all. Sonic 06 handles its characters and cast well. The story and its style was to contemporize it with the games and releases of its day. Reminder that games of the time inspired and shaped that generation. Its why unleashed went the way it did to show they were not going to do that again.
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>>539435346
But isn't it basically just the boost except it launches you up in the air when you use it on an incline? The move that Frontiers calls "boost" ironically works less like the boost than the Spin Dash does, since it doesn't give invincibility like the boost does, or like rolling has always done.
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>>539434559
>>539434731
It's still mostly rollercoaster level design and the sections that aren't rollercoasters suffer from poor controls.

Colors, Frontiers, and Shadow Generations have a lot of 2D sections, but its all stiff and wrote. Shadow Generations has some 3D platforming but the controls and physics makes it feel like ass.
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Who's stupid fucking idea was it to hire a bunch of Archie writers for IDW?
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>>539435713
>Sonic 06 handles its characters and cast well.
They made Knuckles a retard, a flanderization that carried all the way until just very recently. All because they wanted him to fumble that fucking cardkey.
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>>539435518
I don't like evan but in no way i compare that monster of gigi to her.
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>youtubers acting like fags over shit :|
>youtubers acting like fags over japanese shit >:(
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>>539435713
06 did everyone except Sonic, Shadow and Silver dirty.
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>>539435760
Comic writers see Sonic as a blank slate and vessel to push ideas, politics, and messaging with. We're stuck with these talentless faggots until sega finally realizes nobody reads comics.
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>>539435652
Ian "Killing is always bad under any circumstances even if the victim is a terrorist" Flynn? You expected that from him?
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>>539434849
Why are westerners so weird about romance? Amy chasing Sonic was seen as annoying, and Elise being even somewhat romantic was treated as weird and icky-coded. My god these people are gay bro
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>>539435730
I really don't have a lot of time on Frontiers, so you might be right.
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>>539435121
It's as if the games they got were always good, so they didn't really care about that.
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When are we getting the next Mario and Sonic at the Olympic games?
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>>539435812
Knuckles has been that ways since adventure 2 honestly. I'd say they made closer to his Sonic X version.

>>539435881
It was fine. Amy did her job in introducing and endearing the player to silver as well. I am basing this off the jap script since thats how I played it though.
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Sonic never had a good comic/manga, outside of pic related, and Sword of Courage
>Nikki manga
The gimmick was irritating
>Archie
Too much weird shit, cheap drama, and OOC moments
>The french one with the female Knuckles
Too short, and too shallow
>Fleetway
Too much spinoff stuff, and not enough Sonic (also, ugly OCs)
>IDW
Gay as fuck, and also OOC
>Shadow's CoroCoro manga
Too rushed and schizophrenic
>What about Boom and X?
They were Boom and X, 'nuff said
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>>539435986
I'm gonna stop you right there chief. In the last year I watched the top 100 romance anime on HiAnime and I can tell you right now JApan isn't much better than us.
I can recite japanese romance plots in my sleep at this point.
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>>539435408
06 was screwed over by Naka being fired and getting rushed to be released on holiday.
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>>539435652
Heh, you little rascal you
me too
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>>539436076
The olympics terminated the contract. They want phone games and other games now
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>>539435546
I fucking wish. Someone is unironically defending 06 poop plot atm.
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>>539436181
So was Sonic Boom, but that gets relentlessly shit on anyways.
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Shadow = Sonic
Rouge = Knuckles' power + steals M.E. shards

Knuckles = Anti-Sonic

Rouge is a government spy hired to investigate Project Shadow, in SA2.

... What if instead, Rouge was hired to investigate AND POTENTIALLY ELIMINATE Shadow, in SA2? Or whatever? Like, Rouge being hired as the only one powerful enough to actually KILL Shadow? And her own obsession with the Master Emerald becomes very useful because it can neutralize Shadow's Chaos Control. What if this was the basis for Rouge's role in SA2, as well as their eventual alliance as teammates, and then Rouge proclaiming that she'll stay by Shadow's side forever after 06?
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>>539436225
I'm not defending it. Debate and discuss things without acting like a huge faggot. Even bad things can have some merit to them.
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>>539435760
Archie fans gaslighted people into thinking they understand Sonic, even though Archie was the furthest thing from Sonic. The world wasn't the same as the games, it had characters who didn't exist in the games, and the canon characters acted different from the ones from the games. It was Sonic in name only.
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>>539436062
Well, anyway, it's just something I noticed. I do think the Frontiers Spin Dash is fun, though maybe a bit overpowered. I think the bigger issue isn't really the boost, but rather the quick step and the level design relying on it so much. Like all those 3-4-5 lanes hallways where you just move left and right while running forward. You could completely remove the boost and those would still exist. Rails have the same issue. It's lazy and they need to fully get rid of it at this point.
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>>539436105
Thank you for being honest.
I'm getting tired of IDW and ARchiefags constantly being like "But we're the good one!" no you aren't.
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>Can run almost as fast as full speed Sonic
>Can fly as fast as full speed Sonic
>Is as durable (sensitive to pain debuff)
>Is genuinely a better acrobat than sonic (flight hax)
>Can swim
>Can generate bubbles for breathing
>Can heal not only herself but her friends
>Can lift upwards to a metric ton while FLYING
>Can understand Chao (deep connection to chaos energy)
>Has a pacifying aura that calms people down
>Cute
>Like really unreasonably fucking cute
>The cutest, even, in the entire franchise
>Can drive
>Only Six before Sega got rid of canon ages
Busted ass character when you really think about it.

Didn't need to verify btw
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>annoying romance drama D:<
>annoying romance drama, japanese :D

Not beating allegations these weeaboos lol.
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>>539435713
>Sonic 06 handles its characters and cast well.
Knuckles has no in-universe reason to go to Soleanna and the only thing he accomplishes is getting one of the emeralds in the last story.
Blaze's presence in the future is entirely unexplained, she doesn't talk to any character besides Silver, no other characters acknowledge her existence and all she accomplishes is doing what Silver couldn't and then maybe not-dying, question mark.
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>>539436351
>>539436357
They're both shit, but the archie comics never interacted or affected the games. That makes those tranny rags worse.
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>>539436395
I already admitted defeat what do you want from me
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>>539436228
That's because one game is good and rightfully has defenders, and the other isn't good and thus doesn't have defenders.
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>>539436228
Nobody wanted Sonic Boom. It was a poor attempt to appeal to westerners and replace Modern Sonic.

>But it wasn't going to replace Modern Sonic
The money Sega sank in Boom is not how you treat a mere spinoff. They wanted it to be the new face of Sonic.
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>>539436338
>Even bad things can have some merit to them.
Like Archie?
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>>539436395
Such is the case for every topic for JP Purists. They're just fucking weebs. Always have been.
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>>539436431
Yeah, I think the silver chapter is the weakest by far personally. Shadow walked off well, but that was to be expected seeing how shadow the hedgehog sold well and people like thst version of him.
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>>539436081
Nah even Amy was terrible. Like every other non-SSS character she disappears and reappears from the narrative.
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>>539436498
>Nobody wanted Sonic Boom.
Who the fuck wanted 06??????????????????
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>>539435137
I been on YouTube since it's golden years and nobody ever shit-talked about Archie or even really discussed it. It was always about Modern Sonic being "bad" and that the classic games + SatAM were way better in every single way. Didn't even know what even Archie until 2011, which was only because someone brought it up on Google+.
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I miss when the fandom hated Sonic X for being severely OOC. Now we've gotten so many OOC comics that people think Sonic X is a "Decent attempt" fuck off.
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That japanese guy said it best. Archie should be seen as its own separate entity because it's so drastically different from Game Sonic in every way.
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>>539436485
>>539436498
I wanted Boom and it could have been good, fuck you. It was fucked over by SoJ mere months before release to hit their stupid Nintendo deal. A game meant for higher performance consoles gutted so it would work. Anyone would fail that. Stop being disingenuous, faggots.
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>>539436617
>It was always about Modern Sonic being "bad"
They were right.

>and that the classic games way better in every single way.
Yes? And SatAM is not good, but WAY more bearable than X and Chris.
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>>539436519
I guess. I care about the games mainly, and I'm sure you can find a good thing or two in both the archie crap and idw troon fest.
>>539436593
What more is she to do? She's the cute girl who cares and helps. She's not fem sonic. Her role with silver was fine
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>>539436607
People were excited for 06 until they had to actually play it and find out what a mess it was. Nobody asked for whatever Boom was doing. Why not spend those resources on Modern Sonic?
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>>539435137
idk about Archie but for whatever reason youtubers LOVE Satam. I've given it a try and it isn't even that stunning or great. Just feels like X season 3 with worse animation and a derivative art style..
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>>539436781
I wanted Boom.
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>>539436660
>it's so drastically different from Game Sonic in every way.
Why are you seeking Archie in the first place if you want just Game Sonic?
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>>539435812
Knuckles has always been a fucking retard. His first appearance is him getting easily tricked by Eggman, who's obviously causing chaos on Angel Island and even set it on fire during the first zone of Sonic 3.
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>>539436617
I remember old forums bashing Archie because of the romance drama and bad art. Archie had a bad rep in the fandom until Ian and Yardley showed up.
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What does satam do differently from archie? Actually asking. I just know Satam has a better eputation in the "normie" space than a lot of Sonic media despite being extremely offbrand and controversial among true Sonic fans.
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>>539436384
There's also the whole thing about her LUCK POWERS if you take Chronicles as canon (before the Pendering, at least)
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>>539436685
>I wanted Boom
You didn't. You don't play the game, you don't discuss it. No one talks about its gameplay, or its story, or its music, or its scrapped features, or anything else. No one is making fan remakes of it. No one is making a PC recompliation. No one is asking for an official rerelease. No one is porting its stages to other games. You don't bring it up outside of this conversation. You don't care. If you like the game, prove me wrong and actually show it some love, because for the past 10 years since its release it has received none.
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>>539436620
Idw made these characters so lame and gay that prior media is cool again
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>>539436863
I don't seek Archie, it seeks me because its fans keep whining that they were robbed because it was cancelled.
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>which was only because someone brought it up on Google+.
>old forums
You guys were bullied out for being pretty fucking annoying and autistic and underage btw.
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>>539436957
You're not me and dont get to decide what I want or like. I dont discuss the game because people only shit on it and never see the potential of what could of been.
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>>539436762
>her role
Yeah she helped Silver and then vanished. Allegedly she was going to help fight Iblis but that got scrapped. Maekawa did a crap job of writing a story to actually use the supporting characters. It's obvious there was cast bloat and favoritism.
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I didn't like the Sonic Boom show either. It was a prime example of something covered in 10 layers of irony. It was when the franchise would make fun of itself in order to appeal to the people who hated the franchise.
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>>539437090
Blaze and Marine should be called "no one cared"
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>No one is defending 06 stop being paranoid
>btw EVERYONE TALKS IT ABOUT THE GAMEPLAY THE POTENTIAL THE PC REMAKE and one of them was a good game and fans still defend it and and and

Weeaboos not beating the allegations, episode 2.
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>>539437054
Its hard to talk about boom because there isn't much there. I couldn't finish it because the characters won't shut up and let me play the game. When you finally do get to it. Its a tad generic beat em up with no real features or gameplay. At least I got it for 25$ after a bit after launch.
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I will simply not forgive IDW for what it did to Sonic, Amy, and Silver.
Fire them. All of them. Fire IAn, Fire ABT, Fire everyone who was ever credited for IDW.
I don't care if they "improve" I don't care if they "Get it now" I don't care that Evan apologized for Uwuver and promised to do better.
Storytelling isn't homework . I am not grading this on a curve. I hate what they did and I want it gone.
>But what about the japanese writ
FUCK THEM TOO? NO HONEST PERSON LIKES KISHIMOTO'S WRITING FUCK YOU!
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SHADOW'S MOST LOYAL COMPANION
AFTER MARIA

SHADOW'S BIGGEST SIMP
AFTER MARIA
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>>539437090
Rouge was lobotomized? was her brain stored in her tits?
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>>539437247
>Idw

Sorry anon. I'm not a fag
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>>539431759
>yellowfagsh
Awful op, please grow as a person.
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>>539437054
Yet that doesn't stop us from doing it with Sonic 2006. I still post about it even when I'm the only fan around, because this is the Sonic general, and if I'm playing or thinking about a Sonic game I like, I post about it here. You don't talk about the thing you allegedly like. You never decide on your own to show the cool things that you love so much about it. You don't defend the game you allegedly like. You don't post fanart of that specific game. If you truly like this game I would like to see you share it unprompted, but it only comes up in this specific conversation as a fake gotcha. I'm not going to believe you like this game because not you nor anyone else have ever shown this game love for an entire decade.
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>>539436260
It's funnier if Rouge is the only S-tier fighter that doesn't have a crazy background.
>Sonic is the Legendary God
>Knuckles is the Guardian of the Master Emerald
>Shadow is the Ultimate Lifeform
>Omega is the Ultimate Robot
>G-merl was built using the data of Ultimate Emerl and was then enhanced by Eggman even further
>Silver is the greatest hero from 200 years in the future
>Blaze is to Sonic what the Sol Emeralds are to the Chaos Emeralds
>Rouge just won the genetic lottery and gets to be the strongest woman from Sonic's world for free
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>us
Not your personal army.
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>>539437247
why didn't eggman pull the trigger on tangle?
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>>539436919
The show had a short lifespan and existed in a time where Sonic wasn't completely defined. It was also better to look at. Archie had tonal whiplash, periods of atrocious-looking art, had shipping drama, had characters act weird, kept going on even though the franchise had been defined since Sonic Adventure and awkwardly tried to add the canon lore to itself. Archie was an alien to the franchise. It's existence was based on outdated concepts. It was also one of the many sources of division in the fandom and distortion of how the franchise was supposed to be viewed.
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>>539437235
For the stare of the game on launch, I dont blame you. Im not saying Boom is good, but it could have been if they got to do their vision. I love different takes on the characters. It was obvious that Roger's voice fit Boom Sonic better and he had a hell of a lot more fun with it. I love looking at BRBs dev footage and wondering what they would have had with the proper time and you know. Not getting fucked over like that. Everyone blamed them to for what SoJ did to them too. I have a lot of love for what Boom could have been, not is.
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>>539437139
Yeah I agree. I don't get why sega never understood the fans loved the earnest story telling and characters. Irony crap was bad, but worse yet is the steven universe era we're in
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>>539434664
You get the rest of the story in Fantasy Zone II. You can play either version, original is one of the best Master System games but the update is one of the best remakes I ever played.
Not sure what Fang has to do with this though.
>>539436181
Didn't Naka quit?
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>>539436620
The fandom hated Sonic X because it wasn't as dark like SatAM and "too anime". There was also many people who were outright passed that SatAM ended on a unanswered cliffhanger while Sega was trying to abandon the western lore in favor for something actually closer to the games.
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>Archie had tonal whiplash, periods of atrocious-looking art, had shipping drama, had characters act weird, kept going on even though the franchise had been defined since Sonic Adventure and awkwardly tried to add the canon lore to itself. Archie was an alien to the franchise. It's existence was based on outdated concepts. It was also one of the many sources of division in the fandom and distortion of how the franchise was supposed to be viewed.
But enough about Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, 06, Secret Rings etc etc etc.
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>>539437297
>But what about the japanese writ-
>FUCK THEM TOO? NO HONEST PERSON LIKES KISHIMOTO'S WRITING FUCK YOU!
At least you're consistent unlike the rest of these faggots
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>>539437412
Okay, I'm done engaging with you then.
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>>539436930
Cute, I want rape shadow in drag
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>>539436384
God I wish she was in more stuff.
>>539436949
And her weird shit with dreams
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>>539437610
>Didn't Naka quit?
No. He was fired when he asked for the dev team to get higher pay. This tracks because Sega gets very pissy when it comes to paying people a reasonable wage.
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>>539437614
Its strange. It wasn't the most popular in japan but it did have a lot of fans. Some kids who grew up watching x over there are still fans. I wish they'd try that expressive style riders had.
T.lived in japan
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>>539437742
Yup, Jason Griffith was in a union and they fired his ass for it. Replacing him with Roger, who works for pennies. (He was like every background character in the 2010s, especially in Regular Show.)
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>>539437638
That all made sense though. Show that to any fan and you know its sonic. Outsiders who would never engage or interact with these games are why we can't have earnest games again. I remember the anger and reviewers laughing at the black knight despite the fact many thought it was cool
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>>539437614
Sonic X had a lot of fans and brought a ton of kids to the franchise when it aired. Only SatAMfags hated the show and some still do to this day and I think it's because it's the show that represents Japanese Sonic and made them feel like they were officially a thing of the past..
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>>539437090
Someone said that if you know anyone from the right it's literally over for you man lol
>>539437804
Niggerman, please save our Sonikku from the clutches of gay white women
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Knuckles uses "Hammer Punch" to cause earthquakes.
Rouge uses "Hip Drop" to cause earthquakes.

If Rouge sat on you, you WILL die.
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>The only person on IDW who is capable of keeping Sonic in-character is a racist black man
This would be funny if it wasn't depressing
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>>539437669
You never needed to engage with these posts in the first place, because there is nothing you can prove here right now. If you are a fan of the game, or even just whatever potential you see in it, then I hope to see you be open and loud about it. Enjoy the things you like. Maybe you can't make some great fan creation yourself, but even just by simply showing your appreciation for the game you can help people see things they otherwise wouldn't have and maybe someday someone will decide to make a P-06 equivalent, or whatever other amazing thing can come out of this.

But I don't think any of that will happen, because it's been a decade, and I have yet to see a single person do any of what I just said. Until that happens, I will continue to say that no one cares about the Sonic Boom games, and no one has evidence of the contrary because such evidence doesn't exist.
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>>539437742
>that narrative that he left over artistic differences because sonic team was making a totally different sonic adventure 3 than the one in his head
>it was actually just yen
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Who’s this retard jp purist having a meaty over western media this time?
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>Amy, I love you... Will you marry me?
>*Smashes his skull with her hammer* WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH MY DARLING, SONIC!?
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>>539437989
Bring it
I'm suicidal anyways
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>>539433978
>losing the IDW fandom
Literally doesnt fucking matter, theres no real lost sales cause all of those tards pirate it off youtube and the kids that do buy this will not fucking care because they dont think as hard about all of this as we do. Idw sonic is not big enough saleswise to care about losing its current audience
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So everyone knows that "core 4" is fake shit pushed by Sonamyfags to make Amy relevant right?
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>>539438307
>meaty
>when a fat retard is having a melty (possibly simultaneously having a heart attack)
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>>539438307
I dont know. Jannies once again asleep at the wheel though.
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>People are discussing why Archie sucks
>"B-but what about Sonic 06"
Betting it's either a Archie or Blaze fag
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If their never coming back why did they mindbreak you so?
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>>539438436
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles will always be THE Trio. Trying to add Amy to the mix has always been forced as fuck.
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>>539438465
For some reason instead of actually defending IDW, the IDWfags just point out that Archie and Sonic 06 are also bad.
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>>539438526
i dont even give a fuck about archie but man this is egregious
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>SONIC
SHADOW
>SONIC
SHADOW
>SONIC
SHADOW
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>>539438465
Looks like it’s an x fag apparently.
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>>539438436
I always thought it was people who hated the trio-team bullshit pushed by Sonic Heroes.
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>>539438526
I can't enjoy Misty porn anymore because people started drawing Serena watching it and getting fucked. Shippers ruin everything.
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>Less obvious falseflag ever
Less obvious falseflag ever
>Less obvious falseflag ever
Less obvious falseflag ever
>Less obvious falseflag ever
Less obvious falseflag ever
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>>539438436
No.

Core 4 is Sonic, his Sidekick, his Love Interest and his Rival. Tails, Amy and Knuckles are the characters directly linked to Sonic as three primary relationship roles.

Cut out Amy cause you hate women or whatever, and you're still left with "Sonic's Sidekick" and "Sonic's Rival". And Amy can't be removed anyway because "Sonic's Girlfriend" and "main girl character" is a role that HAS to be filled regardless.

And either way, it just adds up to this situation where Tails, Knuckles and Amy have no defined dynamic because the core of their characters is their dynamic WITH SONIC, SPECIFICALLY. This problem still very much exists between Tails & Knuckles as well.
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>>539438741
Trvke..
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>>539438551
Some of the IDW art is nice. Thats my defense for it. Some of the callbacks are neat too but it gets to a point where its like "We get it bro you know some sonic stuff, write a good fucking story". I can appreciate some of the ideas but the execution is really lacking, stakes are either too high, characters act out weirdly just to push the narrative forward, too many OCs (some have nice designs though) its like bro, i'm here for Sonic, the guy the series is named after, can shit start getting cool because right now its looking kinda fucking gay around here.

I don't know how i'd fix it. Probably stop all the crying for starters, people dont ACT enough in a series about ACTING and DOING.
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>>539438136
>racist

Elaborate?
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>>539438697
People hate team shit in general because of the autism it brings
Amyfags hate STK triofags and vice-versa
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BLACK-HEARTED EVIL
>BRAVE-HEARTED HERO
BLACK-HEARTED EVIL
>BRAVE-HEARTED HERO
BLACK-HEARTED EVIL
>BRAVE-HEARTED HERO
BLACK-HEARTED EVIL
>BRAVE-HEARTED HERO
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>spamming stops abruptly
>Btw it was just falseflag guys :)
Noticing.
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>>539438757
Knuckles hasn't been sonics rival since adventure and that was a massive fucking stretch because he was off doing his own thing (with the master emerald as it should be). Why do people keep trying to push this knuckles rival fantasy? ONE MORE THING. Amy has but all but completely written off as sonics love interest, even one sided. Shes a needs'no'man girlboss now and you're going to have to accept that as a fact of life.
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>>539437247
The one he pulls on Tangle looks like a flare gun
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>>539438814
IDW's art is really its only upside. It's the most on-model looking Sonic comic in the franchise.
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>>539438959
Just ignore the spam and do the other thing I'm not allowed to say for some reason.
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>>539438465
>>People are discussing why Archie sucks
People were discussing why IDW sucks, fellow jap purist bro.
>>"B-but what about Sonic 06"
Yeah what about the game that butchered Sonic and we're still suffering with its long term consequences.
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SatAM mogs all the other cartoons.
Archie is bad and shouldn't be lumped in with SatAM.
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>>539439031
>Shes a needs'no'man girlboss now and you're going to have to accept that as a fact of life.
Sonic Channel still says that she LOVES Sonic, and every other IDW writer that isn't Ian writes her as the girl who LOVES Sonic, so...
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>>539438757
Sparky, sister nudes, please.
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>Heres a new character for the comics!
"Eww OC, gross, PITOO, PITOO. *snort, hawk* PITOO."
>Shes got FAT fucking tits
"...Alright, im listening"

I will fall for this every single time.
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>>539438814
I've never been in the camp that something needs Sonic to be good but I agree that the comic needs more action and less crying to be worth reading
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This is genuinely so fucking bad. I agree that IDW sucks but are you really going to look at the current games and tell me this is good? Holy fuck it's genuinely PATHETIC.
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Jp purists are a blight upon this franchise. i get why they exist and in some cases they need to, but in their current form they are nothing but saboteurs to conversation.
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>This is bad, actually.
Yeah, okay. When your comic, manga, or game has the balls to make Echidna Nazis, you call me. But Archie is Kino. Especially when Ken wrote it.
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>>539438526
Only the weirdest, insecure shitppers do this lol

>>539438741
Holy shit, lmfao that is sad. They can’t enjoy their ship without feeling inferior. We already had confirmation from the tera-leak that Serena got vaulted for good, all because of shipping shit no less, meanwhile Misty got to come back for Ash’s final episodes, what more could you want.
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>>539439402
there shouldn't be Echidna nazis
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>>539439402
pregnant knuckles....
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>>539439402
UMMMM
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>>539439474
Coward.
>>539439475
We love to see it. Only Ken could give us Mpreg.
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>>539439272
Literally Lanolin and Surge. Thank ABT and Paps for ruining the fandom.
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>>539438753
It’s funny because I remember either Richmunk and/or Alex Hedgefox doing that here or on twitter
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>>539439461
for some reason genwunners have gotten territorial over an anime series they stopped watching 20 years ago
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>>539439556
not coward, it's just stupid to have nazi echidnas when we could have nazi eggs, the superior kind of nazi
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>>539439604
Richmunk is grooming Krack btw.
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>>539438884
Nta but Barnes is one of those "black power" kind of people
Like, it would not surprise me if he tweeted one day some shit about Yakub, or whatever
That's how fucking unhinged he is
Not even a "whitey bad" thing (well, kinda), since I remember him fighting some latino fans back when Prime was airing
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>>539439153
Archie/SatAMfags will always unironically choose Archie over SatAM just for expanding the other characters (for better or worse) even if Sally got butchered in characterization in the process.
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>>539439754
There's nothing saying we can't have both.
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>>539439604
Paps, TheGuyWithThePie, Snick also did that too.
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>>539439936
what are we gonna have everyone be a nazi now? are we going to have nazi blaze? nazi cats? you also want nazi foxes? do you want sonic to be a nazi too? everyone is a nazi now but they all want different kinds of genocides?
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>>539439402
If you think being ridiculed for retarded bullshit and respecting a blight on your favourite series is a good thing in the long run, you clearly haven’t been an archiefag for a long time lol
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>>539438741
>look up Serena on full 34
>Fully fleshed out animation of Serena watching Ash and Misty fuck, getting caught, then running away crying
oh my god the amount of pettiness and seethe it takes to make something like this
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>>539439878
Yeah, I dont get that. Sally is fundamentally a different character in the comics. In the show she was smart capable and sassy. Sure she had a magic fix all computer, but its a Saturday morning cartoon from the 90s. She's so fucking stupid in the comics, and plus wasn't Sonic fucking absent in Archie comics for like 50 issues? Why they choose the comics beyond me. I like the show, short concise, mysterious and compelling.
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>>539439153
>This ugly Disney reject shit
>Mogging anything
I'll take Chris a hundred times over any of the Freedom Shitters, thank you
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mmm Blaze in an Nazi SS Uniform
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>If you think being ridiculed for retarded bullshit and respecting a blight on your favourite series is a good thing in the long run
Just like jap purists exactly do with all the shitty 2000 Sonic games?
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>>539440040
You're saying this like its bad. But I see no downside.
>>539440059
If you take Archie less seriously, it become way more fun to read. Everyone loves my boy mammoth mogul.
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>>539439540
>Oy vey knuckles we absolutely understand you!
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>>539438741
>>539440105
why are you guys talking about pokemon in the sonic thread? can I talk about digimon here?
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You can remove one game from the franchise and fandom discussion forever. What game do you choose?
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>>539439461
>kiss the protagonist
>get vaulted because the older shippers have a melty
many MANY MANY such cases
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>>539440384
forces.
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>>539440267
Yup.
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>>539439713
I’m glad I didn’t interact too much with the fandom when XY+Z was running then, I remember some guy making art of an yandere Misty though. These days I’ve seen like 1 or 2 mindbroken Serenafags on twatter constantly posting about her on official posts over her coming back, I can’t imagine what must’ve happened when they first watched the Journey’s episode where she interacts with Ash for a nanosecond and the reaction later when we all found out why shitppers got shitcanned so hard.
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>>539440384
Sonic and the secret rings.
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>>539440267
Might as well say you don't like Sonic with such a faggy opinion
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>>539440491
Boo boo, cry me a river white boy. Ywnbaj
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>>539440384
SA2.
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>>539440384
Sonic 06
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Removing the IP counter was a mistake
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>>539440631
So you're some gross nog or jeet?
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>>539440105
Holy kek I really, really, REALLY had no idea genwhunners were that pissed
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>>539440267
This really got them mad. Notice how there isn't a single counterargument, its just spam. Sad state these weebs are in.
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>>539439878
Because Archie is more modern. SatAM ended decades ago in the late 90s and characters like the Freedom Fighters only existed in the franchise within Archie.
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>>539440762
Im pure aryan gigachad that understands smiling for other races to their snd your own detriment is wrong
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>>539440384
Definitely Sonic Adventure. By far the game that caused the most damage in the long run
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>>539440384
Murder or lost world

>>539440686
>>539440898
So you're a comic troon huh?
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>>539439461
I've seen JN. It's interesting how justl ike with Archie Sonic you can see that the character dynamics have been affected by things from outside the work itself (Fandom, writers ect)
Serena and Ash behave like they did not kiss. Like nothing significant has happened between them. As if running into each other isn't a massive deal. Meanwhile Misty's return is treated with an unusual level of fanfare despite her having a whopping seven prior retuns including instances from AFTER Serena's kiss.
The episode just has Wallace arbitrarily block Ash from meeting Serena for the entire episode. It couldn't be more obvious that they don't want to have a prolonged interaction between them anymore.

Shippers actually change the writing course of the most profitable franchise on earth. It's genuinely sad.
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>>539440423
Can you name some? Mari is the only other one that comes to mind
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>>539440890
And you believe one Anon's comment instead of just looking it up yourself to make sure Anon is not making shit up?
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Threads have been very high quality lately
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>>539441010
Based
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>>539441013
Again, no argument.
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>>539440105
It was an adaptation of a small comic iirc, the og comic had an alt ending that ended in a threesome, geewunners are still very sad tho.
>>539441013
People are just sick of jp purists and windfags controlling the discussion 24/7, idk what to tell you.
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>>539441010
>>539440898
I know this tranny tier comic bait, but Sonic adventure 1 and 2 gave these characters the lasting appeal and personality that resonated with so many people. I bet you're either a new secondary or worse yet a zoomer. The irony era of Sonic was a mistake and lead to fags like you attempting to take over a great series
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>>539441010
Generations did the most damage. It gave SEGA this idea that a game with zero originality, simplified gameplay and no story, that relies entirely on nostalgia, can be a success, and every game since then has been negatively affected by it to a ridiculous extreme.

>>539440384
Despite that, I would still rather remove Lost World.
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>>539440105
THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THIS SHIT DON'T EVEN TAG IT PROPERLY SO EVEN IF I BLACKLIST ALL THE TAGS THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY GET RID OF IT IS TO BLACKLIST SERENA HERSELF
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This thread is TRIPLE ass!
Do better! Step it up!
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SA2 is still the number 1 on Steam
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>>539441252
Then why dont they write Sonic like that anymore if it had impact?
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>>539440267
Yeah it was shit but that doesn't mean we should let them turned sonic into a tranny
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>>539441048
Anon, I’ve seen the Sally vs Amy wars from the past and even now with Surge/Blaze whatever, shitppers always be shitpping. Surely you know crazy pokefags can get.
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>>539441339
They're incapable to.
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>>539441174
So you hate real Sonic fans? Thats such a stupid mentality and exists only to make yourself a victim. The comics and side media was a mistake

>>539441339
Because faggots are in charge of his characterization. Flynn wishes his constant references were as remembered or loved as earnest writting
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>>539440384
Rush and forces
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>>539441317
Only good post itt
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Good morning, /sthg/. What are you guys up to?
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>>539441317
Cute girls, post more
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>>539441438
>>539441460
They keep hiring Ian for a reason. Frontiers was written by him, most of the player based played in English and Frontiers was very well received. If they had any interest in writing 2000s Sonic they would. Not that it matters because the fanbase shows theyll buy the game regardless of how he's written.
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Some third wheel getting cucked is depressingly normal in shipping art, it's not enough that two people are happy together, someone else has to be upset that they're together too.
You can't just draw Sonic and [insert character that isn't Amy here}, you also have to include Amy not approving of it/coping with it.
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>>539440384
Any answer other than Schoolhouse is just faggotry
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>>539441564
What is this image? what is this sally from?
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>>539441317
source? reverse search is giving nothing
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>>539441702
You understand shippers
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>>539441460
That’s the freaking issue, you treat yourself as the only real Sonic fans, i get wanting TL stick close to the jp media canon but instead of just saying to superior and leaving it at that, you say you yourself are superior for liking it and anyone else is stupid and dumb for not or liking something else. All your doing is isolating yourself and making people dislike the jp canon more.
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>>539441016
It just shows how little they actually cared that they could have their minds changed despite having fuck you money, especially with how they doubled down with Sun and Moon’s more light hearted approach by having Ash act more childishly in comparison to xyz
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>>539441281
It's better than the Adventure games

>>539441252
>Sonic adventure 1 and 2 gave these characters the lasting appeal and personality that resonated with so many people
Except Sonic and co. already had mass appeal before the Adventure games. If anything starting with Adventure the franchise became progressively more niche.
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>>539441894
Once again. You're not a victim, nor are you special.
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>>539441460
No true scotsman.
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Based and Canon trifecta.
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I miss the fankid OC era of /sthg/, that was years ago.
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>>539441778
Iheartstuck apparently. I wouldn't recommend checking out his non-sonic work, he does weird shit.
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>>539442091
oh boy, that sucks to hear...
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>>539442000
Of course, but before adventure is what brought him to the 2000s and made him stand out next to mario 64. Reminder Sonic had worldwide fans uptil the end of the gamecube era.
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>>539442029
Im not saying I’m a victim or special, all people are asking is for you to get off your high horse, jack ass.
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>>539441770
Same place as this
https://files.catbox.moe/2re5dt.mp4
Creator shows up sporadically. I don't have that Sally clip onhand.
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>>539441702
You now understand fujocucks and cuck artists who like making cheating/divorce fanworks, it’s all just bitter resentment masquerading as “haha isn’t it funny/hot though”. I’ve seen it with Deltarune even lol.
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>>539442170
You are though. Stop acting like a fag and discuss what you want. Don't be surprised if people don't like it is all. The majority of real modern sonic fans only like the games
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>>539442000
The most loved parts of Generations are ripped off of the classics and Adventure games. Generations is nothing but an inferior version of what came before it. It's not liked on its own merits, it's a nostalgia game. Sonic Adventure 2 is always the most played Sonic game at any moment in time on Steam.
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>>539442332
Generations is also a hallway boost sim.
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Sonic died with the Dreamcast
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>>539442047
Not surprised. Who’s Tails with?
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>>539442310
Im trying to but every time you or someone else spams shit like “NON CANON, KILL YOURSELF” or something or other. At some point it gets exhausting.
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>>539439228
Convincing fanart.
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DOG-FUCKING MODE, ACTIVATED
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>>539442393
Indeed. And it tries to make up for it by spamming 2D platforming sections nobody wants or likes.
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>>539442424
Obviously.
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>>539442295
>trannyrune
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>>539441817
>>539442295
I believe Sarah Z's videos on shipping are the best material out there for understanding shipping culture, but even then they aren't perfect, there's no one video that explains all the annoying bullshit, there're many and you have to put everything together after watching them all. Sometimes even the police get involved in this shit, some people just care too much about shit.
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>>539442047
>smiling Blaze
skinwalker
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>>539442424
Sonic died in December 23rd, 1998*
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>>539442436
Then stop acting like a victim and ignore them. Realize you're a minority and either talk about it or move to something else
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>>539442291
All of the clips are here: https://anonpaste.com/share/sonic-chronicles-fangame-clips-v2-9f10c521ed
Also not the creator
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>>539442718
What the fuck do you think people have been trying to do?
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>>539442795
You're not helping your case
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Sonic Chronicles 2: Forces.
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I wanna talk about SatAM but I don’t wanna flood the thread with even more spam from the x schizo.
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>>539442424
modernbros, is this true?
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Would it make sense to say that if Amy = "Girl Sonic", then Rouge in-relation to Amy and her own Girl Sonic nature is more like Jet?

Like, in the same sense that Sonic is like the Wind but Jet is the Wind "MASTER"? This is someone of a similar nature to you, but they are presented as the absolute master of this field you yourself are all about?

Amy is the "Girlfriend" character, she's born from the scrapped concepts of Madonna, she's presented as this ideal girlfriend figure with a very intensely loving heart and stuff... But Rouge is "Rouge", she's extremely, like... glamorous and charming and stuff, and her main superpower is really that charm itself, her "feminine wiles" or whatever.

Like, if there was ever any actual basis for Sonic x Rouge as a ship, it would purely exist within a context of basically saying "Rouge is literally Amy, but BETTER". Like, Amy is Girl Sonic, Cream is Kid-Girl Sonic, Rouge is the "Older Woman" Sonic or whatever the right term is. Meaning, Amy is "just" a Girl, Rouge is a "Woman". Like if Amy calls herself a "Lady", that image of a "lady" in her mind would be embodied by Rouge.

Cream embodies pure cuteness and innocence as a little girl, Rouge embodies intense lustful desires as an older temptress or whatever, Amy embodies "Love" itself which encompasses both sides of that as a girl in-between those two stages or vibes or whatever. So, Amy Cream & Rouge as a team would not be Sonic, Tails & Knuckles... it would be Sonic, Tails & Jet, if Jet also had all of Knuckles' strength.
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>>539442453
Just what Maria wanted (she's a white girl)
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>>539443060
I love the voice cast they got for everyone. Jaleel still does one of my favorite voices for Sonic, only behind Martin Burke.
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>>539443094
Rouge is considerably more like a female Sonic than Amy is
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>>539443425
No one wants to hear this even though its true.
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I think it's safe to say that if Amy ever somehow married Sonic, she would not invite Rouge.
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Tails! ^-^
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>>539442689
Classic is boring.
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>>539443583
Yes she would. She would invite Shadow and Rouge would be his +1 but Rouge would drag them both to the wedding.
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Rouge even has her own Donut Lord
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>>539443779
>I have no taste
It's ok anon
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Im aware im probably late as fuck on this topic but why on god's name is Crossworlds 70 dollars on steam? That is an absolutely absurd amount of money to ask for a base video game. Like genuinely how is anybody, especially a kid/teenager (the target audience) supposed to afford that?
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>>539444147
nobody tell wave what her second most popular ship is
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>>539444187
I really dont know why they thought it was a good idea. Even if they were competing against just Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, you cant match that. It would have sold at 40, but asking for 70 is fucking wild when all the characters people actually want to play are behind DLC, which won't even have voice acting. This game is going to flop harder than a fish.
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>>539444147
I call bullshit
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>>539444340
i dont know what the fuck happened to taills but is sonic missing an arm too?
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>>539444447
I genuinely wouldve pre-ordered it if it was 50, MAYBE 60, but 70? Thats a fucking insult and insanely greedy. And theres paid DLC too? Theyre really asking for 70+ plus tip for a game that'll have maybe ten concurrent players in a year. They have absolutely lost their minds.
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>>539444340
my fatass thought his tails were chicken tenders
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>>539444693
Silver X Blaze is what ruins Silver and makes him a UwU shit character
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>>539431759
>Again with political stupidity
hehe
>Krack wo-
Hang yourself.
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>>539444693
I need Krack's simps and manpower to get this beautiful artist officially working for Sonic Team
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>>539444830
For what is likely going to be a buggy fucking mess. It was my understanding they ripped assets from other games for the maps as well, so much for that extra fucking budget.
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>>539444908
That's why Sega need to learn not to employ fucking fans but actual writing and game professionals.
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So what's the general opinion here of those fanarts of Silver in a bad future fighting an adult Sage?
Haven't been here in a while.
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>>539445089
I don't care about Silver.
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>>539445089
its kinda cool i guess.
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>>539445089
It's cool, me want
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>>539445089
Art is pretty but the concept can't go anywhere



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