>>539475590
i fucked up, previous thread >>539428495

Magicka warbond y/n

the summary execution of the Gucci Diggers strain

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this thread is sponsored by meguming

>>539476206
Peepee poopoo your pants elsewhere, there are no japblock fighters for you here

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>>539476206
I will explode to her after diving today i guess.

>>539475953
Too unrealistic.
Anyway, here's a legendary Warbond with a medium pen autoshotgun that makes gas clouds on hit.

>>539476206
Shit girl, shit gimmick, shit series, and shit weapon type. Get better tastes, faglord.

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I like our cute mascot.

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>think about exo missile being bad
>wonder how it compares to the recoilless
RR HEAT: 3200 contact, 150 splash, 3m radius
RR HE: 750 contact, 800 splash, 7.5m radius
Exo: 1200 and 400 at 2 meters
>check them out in blender
>the exorocket is 50% fatter and more than twice as long
god the patriot is done so fucking dirty

>>539475156
>predditor strain
>any better than rupture
Hi Alexus. Do we need to lock you up again?

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>>539476338
fuck he knows

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bots or bugs D10 steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244186521588/76561198088743007

>>539476763
kill yourself

>5 weeks to fix 3 enemies

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>/hdg/ trying to justify their insane contrarian love of Diggers after bitching about them incessantly for weeks

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>5 weeks

>>539477378
writing new bugs takes time too

>>539477074
2/4

>>539477074
full?

>>539477815
nah still at 1/4

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>/hdg/ and reddit get filtered by Diggers
>Arrowhead forced to literally lower the difficulty for them
ngmi

>>539477074
full

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>>539477846
then its just failed

>539477897
>/wtg/ poster
i shan't pretend your opinion is of value, nor give you my reply

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>>539477854
awoga

>>539476879
But predditors literally are one of the best sub factions we ever got. They had no real problems exclusive to the sub faction that any of the other ones got. Compare that to the Rupture Strain where it had genuine problems AND had non-stop bitching from release till now. That's why I always balk at people trying to misconstrue complaints about an enemy or sub faction being faggy or annoying as being "Too hard"

Well what about fucking predditors? Predditors are genuinely one of the hardest things in the game and everyone loves them. Why did people stop bitching about about them after the first two weeks if the narrative is that "People hate difficulty"?

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Why do I see so many retards on D10 taking solo silo (esp on bots) is it even that good?

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Rupture strain was removed due to CPU (SEAF performance) and FPS (Firepower per Second) issues. It has nothing to do with dificulty.

>>539478064
takes one to know one

>>539478320
>good
not really
>fun
yeah, extremly satisfyinh

>>539478086
They actually have a host bug too.
They can animation cancel to do all of their attacks simultaneously, even in death and stagger animations.

What the fuck is the Epoch for?

>>539478329
If so, has anybody's performance improved since their removal?

>>539478770
lol
lmao

>>539478649
nobody knows. the very best case scenario is that you hop onto elevated terrain and buildings with hoverpack and pick between hvts and blobs. it still takes ages, and the game has essentially zero respect for the sanctity of elevation due to dogshit pathing.
its a piece of shit like most of the weapons in every and each bond.

>>539478649
firing weightless ammunition

>QUICK, REMOVE ENEMIES FOR 5 WEEKS SO WE GET GOOD PR
>A-ACTIVATE THE REDDIT DEFENSE!

>>539478582
NTA but I'm also pretty sure PredHunters don't do their vomit attack when the host isn't nearby either

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Already tired of botslop. Can Joel attack Hellmire already?

I'm having even more fun with the Solo Silo by comboing it with the Hover Pack. Even on Clasa with the great trees the Hover Pack is really helping with getting LOS on good points to target from a long distance.

>>539478649
Come back in 5 weeks for the answer.

>>539479254
Silo is cool, shame it only works on the easiest faction in the game.

>>539479231
>bugchaser crying hes not the center of attention again
>again

Reee I wanna explore cool alien environments not some generic fucking forest

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lol
lmao, even.

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>>539479181
See, this is why any company needs to stop taking its feedback from fucking Reddit because pic related is the kind of cretin complaining about game balance

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Clasa lobby
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244188059936/76561198163621377

>>539479976
full?

The Raped

>breaks game
>immediately goes on extended vacation AGAIN
>all while having made $1,000,000,000 in sales

tell me again why i should be paying for supercredits

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I had a thought last night. Joel really didnt expect us to defend Super Earth and didnt account for Chinese nationalism. Every other faction has their "fortified" sector. Bugs have the Coom, Bots have Cyberstan, Squids have..... Alamak I guess? I say this because I was thinking about how were going to get bot forge worlds with cyborgs and Siege bosses. But I couldnt think of what world thats unique enough to even matters for illuminate to get their magic squids and potentially unique biome.

>>539479976
failed to join - full?

>>539479976
full or fucked

>>539480291
SEX with robot girls.

>>539480231
>>all while having made $1,000,000,000 in sales
All spent and surstromming they consumed in a month, btw.

>>539480231
You shouldn't, just grind

>>539479976
I'm going to give this doll a balloon! And then I'll turn her womb into a balloon filled with my sperm, filled to the brim.

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>>539479607
>Game is an unstable shitheap? But look at how funny the words on the screen are! XD!

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fear not brethren, I will host a non failing lobby

D10
Whatever

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244189149116/76561197999417031

>>539480169
>>539480361
>>539480406
>>539480448
something is fucking wrong since yesterday. Now I have to experiment with crossplay on
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244188059936/76561198163621377

>>539480706
failed again

>>539480659
Huh, so they really are removing them for performance fixes. I was under the impression it was just an AI and visual redesign.

>>539480696
insta full.... no tranime pics needed

>>539480706
i'm in (full)

>instead of getting defeated in battle every new enemy just gets bitched about on reddit until it's either crippled or ceases to exist entirely
too bad real wars don't work like that
imagine the Ukraine war would be over already thanks to relentless NAFO shilling

>>539479596
>exact same playercounts
>but one planet has 40% more librate
>it's the one that mathematically can't ever be won
>probably not even if the entire playerbase dogpiled it
unless the liberation algorithm by players online and lib gating by % of overall player count in a location also has additional arbitrary weighting modifiers for how many people are on an entire factional frontline and not just how many are on specific planets out of the total playercount, it's being manually rigged and it's really obvious that it's rigged

>>539476206
Only when in form of the robutt and with black as night skin (she only gets fucked by big white cock).

>>539480706
>>539480789
>>539480889
I fucking swear, if my IP is marked for death...
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244189524166/76561198163621377

Railgun buff when? It’s cool as fuck but it just can’t keep up with all of the new shit/high spawns of massive enemies anymore, it’s pretty much completely pointless when you can take a quasar and kill things faster and this safer with no ammo concerns, and it’s cool down isn’t far off how long it takes to kill a lot of new big shit anyway.

>>539481406
3/4

>>539480291
>squiggers are stopped short of crashing the Meridian black hole into Super Earth, more or less as planned
>but they then job it and lose the invasion before the EBIN Super Presidential defense mission in New Stockholm due to chinks
>swiggers seethe internally about it
>they know that bugs will NEVER reach Super Earth at this juncture without Joel going completely mask off
the only way they can get their destruction of Super Earth story beat is to make the oncoming Botstar black hole 2 event (un)subtly impossible through fudged numbers and fake minor orders on the other fronts that aren't actually possible to complete but also completely necessary for MO success. They're going to do it to get revenge on the playerbase for succeeding within their managed narrative where they are nominally supposed to be able to succeed. Gucci will spam incessantly about the forced loss as if anyone is at fault but swedes, get ignored, and post child porn. Alternatively, the community will somehow force a victory, he will seethe about how botniggers 'finished last,' and then still post child porn.

>>539479596
>have a not reach planet
>xbots try and take it back
>actually doing well
>turn the invisible dial so they can’t do it
Literally what is their fucking problem? I can’t fathom how you could be such a joyless cunt

>>539480291
It's either going to be Alamak or Alairt 3, but even then I don't think those planets will be significant faction planets for the ayys. Maybe just places where the new units are coming from, since they both have a ton of cities, so "lore wise" a lot of humans to play mad alien scientist with, but not the stronghold world.

>>539481802

the "unsafe" mode is a stupid gimmick and it should be removed and just have full power in safe mode. maybe add an overheat cool down if you hold the trigger too long

>Remove the enemies cause the game runs like shit with them
>Game still runs like shit
cant wrap my head around this one

>>539482230
>cant wrap my head around this one
need to eat more surstromming.

>>539482230
How many more times does it have to be said that this game's devs are absolutely retarded?

>>539482179
Unsafe mode is fine if it did a lot more damage and actually had good visual and sound design for when it’s at the red line.

>>539482540
the epoch beeps, whatever happened there?

>>539480659
I think "Firepower Per Second" is just a joke, I don't think Arrowhead meant it as a comparison to frames per second. They didn't say the rupture strain were causing any performance issues, just that they're basically supposed to be tagging clients as reliably as they were tagging hosts.

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In three weeks Justice will allow us to reach firepower per second levels previously thought impossible.

>>539481406
2/4...

>>539479596
havent fought squids in a while ya know maybe ill help these guys out

>>539482630
The epoch beeb is okayish, you can let go a split second after it goes high pitched. But the railgun needs to be charged a decent bit more once the pitch maxes out, and the lights blur the fuck out at 80% so they don’t help much. For both once you figure it out it’s whatever you just go by feel, but what absolute dog shit game design.

>new content taken offline for 5 weeks
>took their sweet time getting it out
Holy fuck, does the sw*de know zero shame?

>>539482034
If the xbots very slowly take some of the currently held planets off MO now, how will they have the big Illuminate cult reveal event revolving around taking those planets back and fighting the new units that aren't vootless zombies?
>but why not have the squids start consolidating towards the untaken planets on the galactic rim to compensate, aren't squid ruins more plausible to find the further away from Super Earth we ge-
it's very racist of you to assume swiggers can think

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>>539482975
Justice made more sense in the first game where helldivers were more grizzled tacticiool brits.

>>539483142
do you think devs with shame would constantly release broken content and use their community as beta testers?

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>>539480659
>That’s gold lol !

>>539481802
>>539482179
>>539482540
The Railgun is nothing more than a reverse Eruptor, they need to bend the knee and just make it a primary already and then replace it with a heavier shoulder fired Railcannon support weapon. Everything to do with Railgun not being good enough is solved by reverting all negative changes made from its original incarnation in HD1 and making it a primary like it was in HD1.

>>539483359
The sw*de truly is a vile beast

I will now post the ultimate "help lvl 15 players with d6 bots" build

Eagle strafe
Commando
Expendable antitank
WASP (thats right, you heard me)
and whatever medium pen primary you like

Why dont I have a 500kg? Because you are showing them how to not be a bomb/barrage chucking retard. The wasp is show them all the medium armor bots they run away from can be beat.

>>539483149
It would be even easier
>let them keep fighting for not reach
>if they do good job guys you had your moment
>but the squids have taken notice and are consolidating, looks like they’re planning something big dun dun duuuun
But no, let’s just stop them from doing something neat on the anniversary of halo reach with hidden modifiers. Fucking hate fighting squids but seeing them retaking the beach was cool

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>>539480659
r*ddit is truly something else
remember to thank AH for removing broken content instead of releasing functional content!

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Posting ITT and not in the one on /vg/ because I am retarded.
In general I find myself gritting my teeth when I play this game. The tone annoys me, the gameplay annoys me and feels aimless, I'm fine with the community, but I never come away from this game feeling happy, or even really satisfied. Is it just not for me? It's one of the only games I can currently play with my friends in any significant numbers.

>>539483590
go take your meds, retard.

>once again, there is now LESS content in the game than there was a few days ago

>>539483386
But the scamming faggot in charge of balance doesn’t want primary weapons to be good, he’s simply too retarded to understand that explosives are strong so the only strong primaries we have are because they blow shit up.
>shoulder mounted
Na, I want more powerful regular rifle style weapons because we already have a bunch of strong shoulder mounted ones. Just an even longer railgun would be fine, and a big ass bolt action WW1 style anti tank rifle for the AMR upgrade.

>>539483701
And performance still sucks

So losing this MO will give us the Chrome bots, right?

Is into the unjust the worst major update so far?

>>539482034
the resistance hasn't actually changed, it's more that the halodivers took their city and moved on which dropped them below the population threshold needed to keep the progress from rotting away
this said it doesn't change how arrowhead seems to hate any hint of player agency outside the content drip railroad that is MO slop

Im out of touch.
Who won here?
Nerftroons or Bufftrannies?

>>539484095
Bugs are the best faction, btw

>>539484239
Jon won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS7cCYsgNUA

>>539484229
nerftroon I guess? He was on a pretty long crusade pretending that diggers were totally fine and everyone was just having skill issues

>>539484389
Oops meant to reply to this: >>539484229

>>539484095
In terms of technical difficulties, for sure.
But as far as the content goes it's my favorite.
That entire Oshaune MO was pretty fucking top notch, really fun and difficult.

>>539483824
>But the scamming faggot in charge of balance doesn’t want primary weapons to be good
well that's easy, you just fire him, or better yet you riot firehose him with surstromming like he's a 1960s protester getting Nickelodeon Slime'd until he dies

>big ass bolt action WW1 style anti tank rifle
nonsense, that's the Autocannon 20mm-chambered single shot breach action primary, AMR just needs to get buffed with deadly incendiary tracers that turn it into an anti-material sniper Coyote with some very nominal blastwave splash. a slightly snubby .50 cal pocket bolt action can go in the primary slot for all your primary AMR needs.

>>539484823
A big ass anti tank bolt action sniper you need to go prone to fire without being flung back would be cool, give it thermite rounds.

We need more powerful single shot rifles. Like the constitution but good. Just feelsgood

>>539484931
they'd have to actually fix thermite for that to work first and we all know that's basically impossible

>bots are doing a mining operation
This means we'll get bot cave missions...........................right?

just saw a guy refer to the ah devs as swiggers in the wild your influence is spreading

>>539485430
are you sure it wasn't just a containment breaker?

>>539484915
is that Rich Evans on the left? I thought he died of AIDS

>>539484931
>thermite rounds
tungsten core 20mm HVAP exists unfinished in the game files. rather than thermite sticky bullets, you give the primary 20mm breach action rifle the same APHE as the normal Autocannon without the ability to rapidly lay fire down, but instead of altfire flak you give it an AP5 super velocity round that does moderate to high single target damage like a poor man's un- to low-charged Railgun with the handling of a normal instant fire ballistics weapon, letting it chip heavies if poorly and maybe squeak some gradual kills on low HP weak spots.

>>539482179
It would've been better if Unsafe was something other than "le actual damage haha", because why even have a Safe mode at that point?
Like, if I were to design it, Safe mode would be just a bit under what Unsafe currently is. The Unsafe would ramp up the damage a bit higher and add some sort of other effect, like a damaging shockwave or being electrically overcharged or some shit. Where there is a benefit, but not so colossal of one that you'd always choose it over Safe mode.

>>539485583
>damaging shockwave
>electrically overcharged
The original Railgun fired stun bullets once upgraded, and since it would overpenetrate crowds until hitting something it can't penetrate effectively left a stunning shockwave in its wake.

>>539484931
I support this. Reminds me of the tank hunter kit from battlefield 1. Giant ass single shot bolt action rifle. Max armor pen, high damage.

Bots D10
For the extra challenge, we are going to be playing poverty divers.
EATs are the only kosher stratagem, no eruptors or crossbows.
Good luck
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244192376541

>>539483306
Only good rifle in that game other than Paragon. The Unstoppable quality makes it have unending blowthrough and AP-ammo lets you kill brood commanders who are very tanky.

Railgun would still be S tier if enemies actually had good weekspots, against all of the launch bots it’s great minus factory striders (which AT emplacement wipes out like they’re nothing and also fucks up bot drops and bases so it’s not like you’re sacrificing anything). Issue against bugs is muh durable damage and the charge time since we fight pred and now rupture so often, there’s just no time to charge the thing. It could be good against squids if it would just one shot body shot overseers.

>>539484915
>Leaked footage of 2 new arrowhead hires needing to pass the surstromming test.

>>539486184
>all the cool shit in HD1 that would punch through entire conga lines
>the fucking railgun in 2 doesn’t pierce through a single grunt
I just don’t get it man

>150 employees
>can't push out one (1) update that doesn't break something
how do they do it
this is the one studio where I fear every patch because they always fuck something up

>>539486492
Nerftranny influence never really left.

Let us rid the galaxy of aliens cum.

>>539486492
I still want my fucking rep-80

>just got home
>check hdg thread
>check previous hdg thread
>see gucci slippers had another melty

never change hdg

>>539485505
looking back that seems more likely

>>539486501
Quotas. Half of the positions are occupied by women who have no idea what they are doing.

Just took the crossbow/eruptor pill against bots because they are rag dolling pieces of shit. Man I should have done with sooner, now I can take whatever nades and support weapons I want without being worried about closing fabs or getting jumped by 20 little fucks in an alley way.

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>reddit cried so hard that an entire subfaction got deleted
Just pack it up at this point. This game is a complete fucking joke.

>>539487161
>im-fucking-plying this very general wasn't crying just as hard

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>>539487161
>this is fair

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steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244193341880/76561197995866779
bots, d10 Clasa

>>539487231
I hate how 99% of Terminids are just flying hitboxes

>>539486170
2/4

>be gucci slippers
>forget to take my meds
>start schizing out in lobbies
>get banned independently from hdg lobbies
>start schizing out in threads
>scream about some fictional tale about a trooncord
>forced to solo dive or pubs
>doesnt take the time to reflect and change my behaviour
>blames hdg as a whole
>posts CP to get hdg deleted
>fails
>cops a permanent ban
>reappear like a schized out hermit if someone mentions my name
>call everyone a tranny and brown
>be mexican

>>539487260
canceled in favor of >>539486170

>>539486170
3/4

>>539487279
>bug swarm faction
>classic of the genre, blast away trying to hold the tide back while they push closer and closer
>can’t fuck it up
>haha make them jump 50 meters through the air to instantly close the gap
>make the dig then sprint under ground to close the gap
Incredible stuff

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>>539486170
full

Just tried arc grenades for the first time, they seem fucking great but it seems like it’s kills don’t register at all. Very odd, chucked on down an alley teaming with boys and it killed them all must have been 20+ but I didn’t get the kill feed and my end of mission kills felt low too. Is this a thing?

>>539488160
yeah, they dont give you kills despite killing
take the good with the bad

>>539487231
>botniggers always say that terminids get countered by pressing S
>arrowhead releases unit that doesn't let you press S
>botniggers instantly throw in the towel
Really makes you think.

>Jump Pack and Hover Pack consume stamina to activate
>Warp Pack is free
The design bias is so fucking blatant.

>>539488224
Pretty stupid they still haven’t fixed that. Probably why I never see anyone use them, these things fucking ruin bots especially in the cities. Think I might even run them over thermites

>>539488420
Would it matter? Warping around blinking through walls going full hit and run is just more fun than a jet pack, only time it’s close is jump packing off a massive hill. The bad part is warp pack is locked behind a warbond filled with terrible shit and you have to get that terrible shit to unlock it on the last page.

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Did they make hulk eyes harder to hit with the AC at some point in the last year or so?

>>539488751
it staggers different but that's it

>>539488751
yeah, when they nerfed the hulk body armour from 5 to 4 so now you can't tell when you're barely missing

>>539488489
they're pretty nifty since they'll also stagger hulks and striders for a bit like a spicy stun grenade

>>539486184
>>539486492
you forget one understated if very based part of the OG Justice; the extremely pointy stick on the end of its long ass SA80-EM2 frankengun barrel, pointy sticks which got shafted hard in the sequel
>literally every single normal assault rifle plus the Constitution received a bayonet as a straight upgrade with no real drawbacks except slightly slower repeat melee strikes and almost always instantly stabbing your teammates to death if you swing wrong
>if you were using an Assault Rifle, you had a bayonet, if you didn't you were using something short or energy based or explosive or snipery or weird with no possible mounting point, I was ready to say even the Punisher pump action had a bayonet but it did not
>it was actually pretty damn deadly overall even against the largest chaff or sub-elites, easy finisher option if you softened them up a little as they mob in
>now bayonets don't exist except on specifically obsolescent meme guns, not even as an underbarrel or muzzle option, and while useful to have aren't on the same level they were
in short I HATE SWIGGERS

>>539488384
>implying botniggers are playing bugs

>>539488965
Yeah AH fumbles the bag constantly and we could have way cooler items than we do, who would've guessed
I still cope for ammo type customization so I can put toxic bullets on the Amendment and pretend it is the Paragon

Eradication is just a better defense mission
You wont change my mind

>>539488965
Well in helldivers 1 you could dodge dance with bayonets, I frame weaving through shit to stab things in the face if you were skilled enough. Like a fun video game or something. Helldivers 2 copy and pasted MGSV gameplay and then decided “hey, you know what that game was missing? Enemies knowing your exact location at all times running at you in a straight line and chain rag dolling you around”

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>>539487231

>>539487161
>>539487231
>gucci diggers are cheating little niggers that force you to pay a stim tax
>gucci niggers is a Sephardic-Jewish creatura
>medieval Jews were routinely employed as universally despised extortionate taxmen who used funny math to steal extra from the peasantry and then skimmed the take to enrich themselves
>gucci diggers are suddenly and without any warning violently unceremoniously removed from the game in a single patch
>Jews are-
W-wait, hold on a minute...

I’m sick of the mech and factory strider spam, give it to me straight. Does the AT emplacement really fuck as hard as i’ve heard? I don’t have the war bond and i’ve spent all my medals, will it make the pain go away?

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>Had a lobby earlier where we all had Warp Packs

>>539487161
>/hdg/ and the redditroons are about the same at this point
what a time to be alive

>>539489471
It rapes. Throw a shield generator down to cover the ATE and you can sit in your throne and demolish everything.

>>539489391
>this makes the bugchaser seethe because they know bugs are shit

>bots d10
>mission is going well
>we converge towards extract after everything is done but one side obj
>one guy discovers lidar station near the extract
>I run to the extract to call it in so we don't have to wait and can extract once lidar is done
>get kicked after calling it in
what makes people be the way that they are?

Diggers are not fun because they are the consequence of a terminally swedish dev mentality. I am glad they removed them until they're fixed. If the game isn't fun why bother. This simple statement will make contrarian NPCs lose their minds.

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>>539489780
pattern recognition
It happened too many times in randoms lobbies, someone is doing an objective or is far away and a nigger just enters the pelican and goes "te-hee!"
Hell it happened once in a /hdg/ lobby as well with 4xlvl150

If you had communicated it it wouldn't have happened
>captcha: PWN0D

>>539488836
Knew something felt off. Gotta retrain I guess.

>>539478649
It's the cope cannon

>>539489751
Very tempted, especially since I can’t stand being a slave to the RR, much prefer running railgun/AMR with warp/jump pack for actual fun gameplay.

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>>539478649
It's the prime "GUYS THE EPOCH IS GOOD" (but not) weapon.
Everyone shills it, but you need double the effort to do the same thing that anything else (as a weapon stratagem) can do.
So basically that's it's thing. Jack of all trades, a bit shit at everything

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I just noticed that it's "straw man news"

>>539490057
>two shot pretty much everything you’d want it for
>3 shots per reload
It’s a level of incompetence I can’t understand

I love the Epoch
It sounds cool and the big AoE explosion on full charge feels really satisfying
That's my only reason for using it, it's just as shit as everyone says it is

>>539490301
>less damage than the railgun, an already not so great weapon
>with a tiny AOE that won’t hit shut
>and way less ammo
Any other case of just why?

>>539490301
how the fuck is it an eat at max charge when it doesnt oneshot anything heavy?

>>539490772
Epoch two-shots titans and one-shots behemoths. Unlike the Railgun it can destroy bot fabricators, and probably more, I would imagine its performance vs. factory striders would also be better.
Railgun three-shots titans if you are a client and takes forever to kill behemoths

>>539491152
Correcting myself: railgun does destroy fabricators, but it takes about 50 fully charged shots to do so
And the titan three-shot is for hosts, clients two-shot titans

>>539491152
True, but crossbow takes care of bot fabs no problem and ultimatum takes care of shit like biles on one shot for bugs. I want to like it, it just always feels like it takes one shot too many, kind of like the railgun gun really.

lobby doko ;-;

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>>539490326
It's like Alexus was being actively malicious in litterally every facet of its stats.
>need to charge it like the quasar.
>but the breakpoints generally need two hits, which sucks because the quasar often gets away with its lengthy charge because you can do some running and dodging to get just enough distance to score a single lethal hit on things before you'd otherwise be torched/squished/etc
>sometimes you can score a ohko if you snipe a precision weak point
>even after the accuracy buff, it's far from being a precision weapon
>the common 2 hit to kill breakpoint often conflicts with the 3 round magazine
>reloading in the heat of battle complicated by the stationary reload. RR gets away with stationary reloads because you can get ohkos with 1 shot. Quasar gets away with charged attacks because it kills with one shot. Epoch has to stationary reload and charge twice
>the overall ammo supply is rather small
>the explosion visually looks like it should damage chaff and medium targets within a rather substantially large area
>the actual damage radius is very small
>overcharge is potentially lethal like the railgun
>the grace period before exploding is significantly shorter than the railgun
>also the visual cue indicating entering an overcharged state isn't actually synchronized with entering an overcharged state.
>has less demo force than a laser cannon beam because of... Uhhhhh.... "Realism"
Litterally EVERYTHING about the weapon fights the user with drawbacks and shortcomings at every turn, and the payoff is that is kinda mid at actually killing anything.

>>539491152
Doesn’t a fully charged railgun do more damage than fully charged epoch as well as more durable damage?

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>hmg on bots
Viable bros?

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>>539491107
First of all, the only things that the EAT doesn't oneshot are Factory Striders (3 in the eye), Dragon Roaches (2 in the head) and leviathans (??)
>EAT:
2000 Durable Damage
LVL6 Pen (Anti Tank 2)

>EPOCH, Max Charge (99.99%)
800 (projectile) + 800 (explosion) = 1600 Damage
LVL5 Pen (Anti-Tank 1)

Good morning, Quasars

>>539491879
very

Railgun and epoch should hit way harder, anything that has the potential to fucking explode and kill you and worse destroy you long ass cool down weapon should completely fuck anything it hits to death. And by anything I mean the big shit, no one gives a shit they kill alphas in one shit, if I want a support weapon to kill alphas and the like with i’m just bring the GL and murdering every small to mid sized bug before I can even register their existence.

>>539491892
EAT only needs 2 eye shots to kill a factory Strider, or one dragon headshot. If it's taking you 3 and 2 respectively then you're missing once.

>>539491809
I don't know, I just know breakpoints. Do note that it has no explosive damage unlike the Epoch
>>539491412
Yeah but you need to see the vent to destroy fabricators with the crossbow, the Epoch just one-shots them from any angle meaning you could destroy all fabricators from a single vantage point
I don't know about the Ultimatum being serviceable against Titans... I don't even know if it one-shots them anymore, lining up the shot is extremely difficult and risky

>>539491809
Railgun does 1500 at 99%, Epoch does 1600 (800 + 800)
>>539492173
thanks you are just better than me

>>539491107
>when it doesnt oneshot anything heavy?
ones shots hulks to the eye or heatsink
one shots tanks to the heatsink
one shots all chargers with an ass shot
one-shots impaler heads

>>539492343
>>539491809
But i have to add, durable damage on the railgun is shit, it does about 500dmg at 99% charge against durable.

Just give the epoch fucking rounds reload

>>539492193
Yeah ultimatum is pretty a pretty consistent one shot against them, get close and aim just above the head, a head shot knocks them out. If it doesn’t kill you can use your grenade launcher to finisher them in about a belt. Down side is getting close, not really an issue because they’ll close in anyway. Upside if you get to take a grenade launcher and cuck bubble to alleviate the bugs terrible design flaws and simple not engage with them.

>>539492353
>>ones shots hulks to the eye or heatsink
>one shots tanks to the heatsink
>one shots all chargers with an ass shot
>one-shots impaler heads
nigger you just described the fucking railgun, except it doesnt have travel time, has a bigger charge window, faster reload, and 100% accuracy. to equate those to eat oneshots is pure dishonesty.

>>539492353
Aside from the chargers, you're better off just taking strafing run.

>>539492551
>>539492193
I recently unlocked the skill of using the ultimatum as the fastest and more reliable way to deal with dragon roaches. Exhilarating

>>539492343
>Railgun does 1500 at 99%, Epoch does 1600 (800 + 800)
furthermore, railgun does 1500 normal, 562 durable while the epoch does 800 normal, 400 durable on the projectile and a full 800 durable on the explosion. the epoch has the same breakpoints as the commando (except against the front of annihilator/cannon tower turrets and the war striders hip joints where it's 3 and 2 shots, instead of 2 and 1 shots, respectively) so the epoch's damage spread against heavy units is better than the railguns

>>539492665
This has to be bait. EAT is a S tier pick in every D10 run if you need anti tank

>>539492681
Yeah dragon pretty much hit bug build diversity even harder, it was questionable to take anything but ultimatum before, now it’s just retarded. Especially with titan holes in caves. It solves all of the big oh shit moments for your pistol slot. Or you you could run the 100 damage LEGENDARY warbond halo pistol with a LEGENDARY light pen. Kek these devs are so shit

>>539491767
don't forget the vanilla warning beep being a separate sound file instead of piggybacked to the charge audio so it's easier to be completely lost if the sound engine overflows

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>>539478086
>Predditors are genuinely one of the hardest things in the game
Alright wrap it up, I'm done here.

>>539492894
Honestly i never had problems with the in-cave titan holes. I just run a charger in there, kill a charger near it or if i have a mecha just park it at the entrance and thermite it. But yeah, it's retarded to not having the ultimatum against the dragon roach, when the other very reliable ways to take it out are either a SPEAR build or an orbital railgun cannon shot with 3mins cooldown on an enemy that spawns ever 1.30 mins

>>539492989
Cope harder, troon.

railgun was made irrelevant by durable, incredible how people still defend this mechanic

>>539485279
>Faction reinforces through dropping units off on dropships.
>Caves.
No.

>>539492497
All the Epoch needs is a proper overcharge meter. Ideally you use the muzzle and watch for when the plasma ball disappears and then reappears, and you'd think that'd be maximum damage, but you have to wait an extra half second after that for the actual full damage, and after that there is only half a second away from blowing you up.
>>539492989
I'm a big fan of this wacky lesbo

>>539493164
the only heavy that takes more than 3 railgun shots to kill is the factory strider

>>539493234
What if they switched from dropships to drills that pop up through the ground in the caves? And instead of a signal flare they fire a thumper or something into the ground.

>>539492563
Negro, play the game, railgun does not do most those things.

>>539493164
its not so much irrelevant as it is the weapon requiring the highest precision but with a motherfucking 1x scope. personally it would be my eternal bot and squid pick if it had at least a 4x scope, the gun is fun and powerful but akin to a sounding rod to use.

>>539493164
>when a newer buddy is excited about the halo shotgun
>thinks it will one shit an alpha commander to the head because it does 600 damage
>explaining why it’s not even going to be a 3 shot kill
Grim

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wow, I'm getting 200fps on the ship, idk what Arrowhead did but they definitely cooked

>>539493919
>standing facing a corner

>>539493802
Shotguns might be the thing getting reamed the hardest by durability.

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>>539493992

>>539493802
>dude it's a direct upgrade to the punisher what more do you want!?

>>539493919
>>539494220
>"Wow! Arrowhead made sitting in a lobby with nothing happening functional!"
How low your bar must be

>>539494220
Specs?

>>539494220
>helldumper cape
That just reminds me how ugly the cosmetics in the halo bond are.
Did arrowhead fuck up or is all the halo stuff suposed to be so ugly?

>>539494335
Whoa the halo pistol does 15 more damage than the base pistol but with less in the mag equaling the same damage per mag, what a legendary warbond. Side grades a a good way to balance a game when you side grade the absolute worst weapons in the game haha

>>539494582
And it still needs the same shots to kill pretty much any weakpoint and not hitting weakpoints with a gun so weak is pointless anyways.
But it's "surpressed".

>>539494475
The cape is neat, it’s the flag they put on the guys grave in the amazing live action trailer. ODST armour is also cooler than pretty much everything else in the game since helldivers ripped off ODSTs shamelessly, but you can’t beat prime bungies art team. Well, a bunch of incompetent Swedes can’t anyway. But no transmog and shit perk so oh well into the shit heap it goes.

>>539494582
You need to be able to customize the weps. Before you could a few months back, the killzone AR was my AR of choice. But without being able to adjust the bullet spread and shit like that it’s creeped out by any of the other guns, like the carbine. Maybe the killzone AR has a fast reload compared to the others? But why can’t you customize them what’s the problem?

>>539494823
And suppressor doesn’t do anything, simply legendary. Not to even mention their fucking “muh realism milsim” shit, a .50 AP round does 15 more damage and has the same pen as 9mm I mean what the fuck are they smoking?

>>539494961
It’s an easy fix too
>Oh but IP licensed can’t change how they look blah blah blah
Just make the attachments invisible, they only effect the stats of the weapon and not the look. It’s so fucking easy. Hardly like the attachment system has any depth to it anyway
>bad ergo
Angles and irons
>bad recoil
Vert and whatever you fancy
>extended mag
Always
There nothing to it

>>539494864
The black armour is about the only good looking thing if you don't count the helm.
I do think the killzone armour looks way cooler though.

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>>539494864
>>539494475
The proportions are fucked especially the helmet alongside the colors. Good thing there are mods that fix it and make it look like the ODST version