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Previous thread: >>539262938
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>I suppose he will bring with him an army of 19 landships!
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Thanquol? More like Fagquol!
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Thanquol soon, friends!
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I've never played Kislev or Cathay despite playing every other faction for years. Is their DLC essential like some factions, what mods should I use and which lords are fun to play as?
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>>539524872
>DLC
Nope. Kislevite warriors from SoC are batshit and insanely strong, but not needed at all.
>cheats
No.
>LLs
Any, doesn't matter much. Ostinky is the most unique arguably of Kislev. I'd only softly advise against playing Kostaltyn first as people tend to overextend too early and get punished (they do this with all Kislev and fail to realise how overpowered Kislev is as a result). Cathay doesn't matter much either, they're all pretty samey, but Yuan would be the most different of the lot too but again not a big deal.
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>>539524872
>Kislev
No, and in fact, most of the additions for the DLC feel vastly different from the faction they originally sold us, only thing you miss out is on hag magic, the generals that buff shitstacks and Kislevite Warriors
>Cathay
Yes, adds a lot of fun tools which Cathay lacked like SEM units and a proper martial Lord because the other 2 are not that good for that. Roster still feels lacking with some unit choices even with the DLC and without the feeling of that gets worse. Dont play Yuan Bo however, hes too easy (most of the Cathay factions are easy but hes actualy too easy)
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behold - the pentagon of death
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>>539524872
you dont need dlc for either they play the exact same as they did at launch
the stanky dlc adds units you dont care about as regular kislev factions and yuan bo is just a powercreep lord with shitty sem units and crows whose role the peasant riders can fill just fine
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DELAYS OF TORMENT
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>>539526109
>crows whose role the peasant riders can fill just fine
>when theyre actually both better being used together
Flying makes crowmen better by default but better AP and offensive stats besides charge confirms it
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>>539526705
you arent going to get crows because they become available too late
literally a pointless unit
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Orks fucking steamroll every time and I'm sick of it.
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>>539525251
>>539525320
>>539526109
That's nice, I dislike monster/solo units and like using infantry units. Are the DLC generic lord/hero units good? The base game ones for Cathay lack ANY unique skills compared to what daemon factions or ogres get with the ascension and name system...
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soo are non-arkhan tomb kang campaigns less of a bitch now at the beginning?
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>>539529506
yes
Khalida's is at least
the BONER giant is nice
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>>539530462
hehe giant boner
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>>539523890
I'm playing Mannfred and his whole army has barrier yet I don't see any items or traits or anything that grants barrier to army, is this bugged?
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>>539531316
mannfred is bald
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>>539531316
mannfred doesn't have hair
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I kinda feel bad for Treehitler.
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>>539532337
poor guy need drycha sex correction
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>>539532556
who doesn't desu
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A courteous reminder that I, Mannfred von Carstein, have never been wrong about anything, ever.
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>>539531316
bald
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>>539523890
new warhammer 3 player here, why is it so fucking hard to make the ranged crossbow/bow units to do what i actually want? Sometimes they face a wall upon an order, rotatiting them 180 is ass (especially when you have to do it mid combat) and sometimes they feel like rearranging their whole formation when i order them to attack a certain unit/fire at will even in guard mode
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>>539533141
the game engine is basically moon landing tier lost technology only a few guys know how to operate. you just have to get used to it and know all the little annoyances that prevents troops from shooting.
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bow ushabti are my favourite unit
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>>539533327
what your second favorite
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>>539533327
I love the way Ushabti look except when they're doing that ninja run with their arms out
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>>539533476
tomb guard to keep the enemy in place
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>>539533643
yeah they are cool too
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what's the strategy with Gelt and its wizards? so far the most useful seem to be the heavens (reset movement), life (restore hp of entire army) and maybe shadow ones (stalk stance).
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can't even post... things are grim...
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>>539532960
Uglier than Beastmanii
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>>539524872
>Cathay
Cathay needs the mod that makes their units unisex so you don't have trannys with male bodies and female faces on your armies.
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Start Bretonniaposting
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Easy win.
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>>539535528
thats a dinosaur
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>>539525584
Do troops fight to the death when completely surrounded like in older titles?
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Hey 40k and Med3 are coming, hope you like it!
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>>539536402
Half truth.
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Sack this shit game off, lads. Bannerlord 2 1.3 is out. CA should have upgraded their own engine towards something more modern like bannerlord years ago.
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>>539536545
All true actually, see you in December.
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>>539536690
Half a lie.
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Post drawings of saurus warriors
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>>539535528
Result of Alberic's uncoventional treaties in Lustria
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>>539537187
Welcoming warmblood adventurers...
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>>539535557
>tiny army
>3 casualties
>moderate kill count considering the odds
>Dwarfs have 0 casualties barely any damage at all.
>Most of their kills coming from their flame weapons suggesting at least one of those dead bloodletter units was blown apart

How did you win this again? Capture point shenanigans?
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>>539536653
Is bannerlord good now
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>>539537476
Last thing bretonnian squire sees before being vored
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>>539537476
why would a lizard have breasts?
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>want to play as morathi
>don't like corruption graphics
I wish she had some option to not be a slaneshi whore. I mean, she can still be a whore, I just want her to stop shitting out corruption.
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w-what's the downside?
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>>539537567
its fun, kinda broken though, like going full 2h axes and throwing axes means you and your troops with axes like sturgians, obliterate shields and you can take out gates and siege towers with throwing axes because theyre coded the same as shields
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>>539537792
is the only way to increase the cabals power level through the '20 or more LL defeat traits' thing?
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so warsphinx is anti-infantry and necrosphinx is anti-large, what's the hierotitan for? single targets?
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>>539537792
you have to play multiple campaigns to get it to work to build up the cabal's power it seems. So think of it as a buy one get one free coupon. You keep the building in the first campaign you see it and your fourth or fifth campaign you might get some cool ability.
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>None of the TK changes are actually implemented
I'm tired. Maybe the best course of action is to shelve this game untill endtimes dlc...
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>>539537650
To tempt warmblood visitors to Lustria.
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>>539538005
kek
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>>539538221
It's there to display your superiority
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>>539538221
To make you seethe about Khatep losing his.
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>>539537792
Seems like a lot of work and multiple playthroughs, just to have some OP random chance effects
It'd be more fun if they were just retarded bonker abilities, like having your past-self as a Hero or some dumb shit like that. Something that'd make you WANT to replay the campaign to experience it, instead of "play this campaign again...but it's easier now!"
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>THE GREAT OUTDOORS
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>>539538287
actually hilarious
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>>539538685
What did he get instead?
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>>539535641
Of course not, they rout THROUGH your formation, taking almost no casualties in the process.
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>>539537187
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I have easily played around 600 turns in the past 2 to 3 months of different Empire factions, the last one Markus and now playing Gelt. Not a single time I have gotten a Hochland Scopes trait with a Master Engineer lord or any other lord for that matter, and I am regularly fishing for it. At this point I genuinely think the Devs are just fucking with me, I am a real victim of gangstalking.
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>>539540146
Version control is suffering. The worst part of mistakes like this is that the build which had those changes is probably already lost or irreconcilable with the live version because deeper technical fixes weren't implemented yet and the two versions can't be merged without crashing.

So now some poor intern is going to spend the next few days redoing all of the edits manually.
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>>539537650
They canonically have breasts and nipples
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NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS
https://x.com/totalwar/status/1968630465486549398
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>>539540980
I have to say, I have tried every possible mod, like better imperial traits frequency and stuff like that that should skyrocket the odds, as well as another similar one; active and disabled for long periods while actively fishing for it, tried all kinds of combinations and as I said also no mods at all.
I have a friend in the Sorbonne who is undergoing his doctorate in Mathematics and I want to present this case to him to just give me the odds, I might not win the lottery but I will be the fucking 0,000001% in the entire TWW3 playerbase to never get the Hochland Scopes trait.
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Do you anons think that ToT will be good or will it be mid like Omens?
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ToT is never good..
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vlad standing in march stance and doing nothing is also part of the AI bug? or just templehof tends to block him somehow?
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>>539540873
So much stuff is just lost technology in total war.
Just like betheseda, the worst part is that they're literally the only company doing this kind of games so it's a virtual monopoly.
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>>539541957
Empirefags whined again.
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>>539541771
We really don't know much about it aside from units and classic CA *wink wink* style hinting
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>>539540980
>Trait fishing.
HOW BOUT YOU GO EARN YOUR TRAITS YOU LITTLE BITCHBOY! PLAY THE GAME TO MAKE YOUR CHARACTERS BADASS INSTEAD OF EXPECTING THEM TO BE GOOD RIGHT OUT OF THE OVEN?!

DROP AND GIVE ME 20 PLAYTHOURGHS OF YOUR LEAST FAVORITE FACTION SOLDIER!
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>I AM THE SUPREME LEADER OF THE PATRIARCHY
what did CA mean by this?
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>>539542235
I wanted to play empire seriously for first time now and him conquering 2 villages and turbing his brain off kinda soured it for me
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>>539542603
He means that he is the supreme leader of these reactionary landowners..
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>>539542926
God, what an awful reddit-tier description.
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Did the beta patch fix lizard AI not making any units?
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>>539540146
Hotfix for a hotfix when? I think I just won't play until ToT of Torment.
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>>539537567
yes. I had a lot of criticism for Taleworlds too but they have redeemed themselves somewhat. I've dropped everything to play the latest beta and they have done a lot of work. It's only a beta at the moment but well worth checking out.
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>>539543123
You don't like it?
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>>539542926
This is why I don't read unit descriptions anymore.
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>>539541771
It's taking them a whole year to make, it's gotta be amazing right?
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>>539543505
The word reactionary makes no sense outside the materialist dialectic rhetoric which has no place in Warhammer, not even in Kislev. It's too modern, too vague, too stupid.
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>>539543871
It's just awful writting loaded with ideology done by dumbass reddit milennials.
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>broken beta fix for a beta that's broken
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>>539542926
Reacting against what exactly?
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>>539537792
I never defeated 20 enemies LL in any single campaigns, do you guys play 200 turns campaign or what ?
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>beta for a hotfix
>ToT moved to November
Just stop already. Shut down the offices and dust off the resumes, CA chimps. It’s over.
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>>539544385
the socialist revolution of the unghols or something
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>>539544385
Being ruled by Katarin(female) who favours Ice Witches(female) over the Great Orthodoxy(male).
>They may look like patriarchal misogynists who are unhappy to be ruled by a woman but they'll put that aside to defend Kislev itself.
In my opinion the inclusion of "landowners" alludes to a potential brewing class war.
The description could be perfectly fitting for nuKislev, the problem is GW have sat on their hands for so long that we still know NOTHING about nuKislev. Reminder that Kislev was the face of Warhammer 3 but then campaign statistics came in and opinions about rosters and mechanics were expressed and the countries they're based on became a divisive topic leading to GW pivoting to Cathay as a safer bet, especially considering they technically "won" the piece of shit that was SoC.
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>Lowered the number of Hydras in the Underworld Sea Entrance to 3 instead of 7. It was 7 as a reference to the Dark Elf Doom Gate, but yes we’ve heard your feedback that 7 is a few too many Hydras even for huge Hydra fans
D-druchii ???
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Imagine if after the Siege of Hexoatl, Kroq-Gar and Tiktaq'to raided Quintex to stop Morathi. They reach the city and encounter her naked and she attempts to seduce them both. Then Kroq-Gar and Tiktaq'to then pound her together.
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I boughted Malagor and his spell selection really sucks
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>>539545510
Far more likely they'd just slice her in half.
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>>539545306
IRL the Rus have had multiple female rulers over the centuries and it's never been that much of an issue.
They tried to pull something similar in that shitty Catherine the Great show and had Peter III scoff at the idea of a female ruler despite his own mother being Empress before him.
The rules are different in the East.
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>>539543871
>>539544000
I think you might have /pol/ brainrot friends, reactionary just means someone with strong reactions
i.e. an old angry man protecting his home from chaos
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>>539546064
No it doesn't.
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>>539544972
All hands on 40k train!
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>>539546064
There are many discussions that occur itt that are the result of political brainrot but the meaning of the term "reactionary" isn't one of them.
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>>539545573
Slice her with what? It's either penetrating her with their long spears and pounding her with their girthy clubs.
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>>539546064
Don't play stupid.
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>>539546413
That damn /pol/ brained von Metternich
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>>539546064
>>539546413
oh, I see. my mistake then
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>>539546413
And especially in the context of Kislev, KISLEV, which is basically Russia/Eastern Europe, a landowner from Kislev is a "reactionary", so basically a Kulak. Yikes.
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>put gelt in ambush stance
>he starts screaming
>AAAAHHH
>AAAAAHHH
wtf
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is it even possible to lose a battle with Gelt and a few mages in your army? You have over 200 winds of magic and you can spam Gehenna's Hounds non-stop.
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>>539542926
>>539543123
>>539544385
You must root for pinked haired Chaos in Warhammer and the bugs in Starship Troopers!
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>>539547297
unironically this
being evil is cool
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https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/7-patch-notes-amp-announcements/threads/11329-total-war-warhammer-iii-hotfix-6-3-1
>beta 6.3.1
Now
>6.3.1
September 23rd
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>>539547297
This. Why do transformers always root for chaos?
>You must support the human sacrifices, chud
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Well done TCLAP, well done.
However...
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>>539547898
Fuck you dude I like transformers. Yeah they're old and nerdy, but I don't need your permission to like something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaVcpfncOWs
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why is CA so messed up. is the hyenas shit just now catching up to them.
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>>539547292
No. And the more mages the strongest you get.
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Anyone have that list of what's been confirmed for each faction in the DLC so far and how many unit/hero/lord slots are still open?
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>Opt-in beta for a hotfix
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>>539549662
an incomplete hotfix released weeks after the update
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>Opt in beta hot fix for a patch that had an opt in beta to detect problems
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>>539537792
If you upgrade it in 9 separate campaigns, it destroys every single faction in the world and replaces every settlement with a Tzeentch super faction, with you only having the settlement with the cabal location.
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>>539549305
>SLAANESH
LL
>Dechala
LH
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Lord
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Hero
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Units
>Pleasureseekers
>Champions of Slaanesh
>Devotees of Slaanesh
>NORSCA
LL
>Sayl
LH
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Lord
- trailer seems to have a Great Shaman Lord
Hero
>Fimir Noble
Units
>Chimera
>HIGH ELVES
LL
>Aislinn
LH
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Lord
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Hero
>Mist Mage
Units
>Oceanids
>Sea Elemental
>Skycutter
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>>539550271
Mazdamundi's worst morning of all time
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If they don't turn Surtha Ek into a LL with massive bonuses to chariots I will be mad.
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>>539550271
Cute in theory, but the ai def. overloads and idles out. You can easily take a continent back before it even starts recruiting anything.
God forbid we finally got a tzeentch end game crisis.
What happens after that campaign though? It resets?
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>>539549662
This is probably just a time-buying stunt because they're taking too long to actually complete the hotfit.
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>>539550893
the entire 6.3 operation is just a time-buying stunt to hide the fact that they have 5 people working on ToT
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>>539537423
>pic
IMAGINE THE NTR
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>>539537423
Never to happen due to natural aversion rates
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I asked yesterday but figured I'd ask again. I don't have any specific instances, but does anyone have any high level army comp tips? I'm not sure how big to build an army, what units to include/not include, etc. I know it's faction specific, but was curious if anyone had any tips.
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>>539551359
>what is settlement trading
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>>539551375
19 star dragons
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>>539551375
>What to include
Your factions good units
>What not to include
Your factions bad units
hth
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>>539551415
Ah, fair enough, I was doing computer to computer analysis
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>>539551375
Silverin Guard Pikes in front. Sisters of Avelorn Archers behind.
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>>539551375
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>>539551375
it's more than just faction specific, it also depends on your enemies, location, faction, stage in the game, and personal preference
most units in the game are fine to use as long as you use them right, and with appropriate campaign buffs
if you don't know there is an in-game unit browser so you can get a good look at every races roster and see what you might face in battle
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>>539551375
Single Entity Spam
Artillery and Hero spam
Elite archer or shart style unit + hero spam
Monstorous/Elite Cavalry spam with aplicable factions
Hero spam
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>>539551375
As a general rule, you don't have to, nor should you, micro every single unit in your army. Most of your units should be 'passive' with a small section of heroes/SEMs/cavalry that you can focus your micro on.
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>>539556150
I only focus on lords/heroes and special units like cav/chariots and some sems if I have them, the rest is locked group in formation and right click.
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>be dwarf player
>want to try lizards
>0 idea what I'm doing
why is there 20 different melee units
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>>539551375
If you can't figure total war games by yourself, you are probably low iq idk
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>>539556497
Lizardmen are more fun if you don't know what you're doing.
Don't try to figure out what to do and just build units that look cool.
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>>539556497
Get some javelin skinks and some basic ass bastiladons. Cheap and effective. And dinos get wallbreaker now, I personally love this change.
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>The Tides of Torment are rising - our new DLC for Total War: WARHAMMER III lands upon your shores later this Summer
>still pinned
>still not changed
https://x.com/totalwar
I only now bothered to pay attention, but damn that's lazy
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>>539557527
Summer ends on the 31st of december, right?
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>>539557816
The times truly are grim.
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>>539558489
Grave, even.
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>>539557816
Global warming and its consequences have been truly devastating...
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>>539523890
Anyone here used creamapi/smokeapi or any sort of DLC unlocker for total warhammer 3? I want to know if they're banning steam accounts/putting a VAC if you use it in multiplayer with friends only, and i dont feel like spending 200 bucks to get every dlc in the game
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>>539557816
They meant southern hemisphere summer, still looking good for a Jan release.
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>>539551375
do this
>>539522856
>>539523370
don't do this
>>539554168
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NO PIECE
JUST WOR
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>>539561481
Legendoftotalwar here and today we are murdering a misinformation spreader trying to trick players into playing suboptimally. This murder is sponsored by manscaped, I will use this razor to flay the skin off his balls after I break his legs and arms with a sledgehammer. I will use the manscaped electric thingamabob without the black part on top to drill out his eyes. Now after that the superchats decide what I cut off next.
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>>539557527
The games only have a skeleton crew left because almost everyone was moved to TW40k. Its a bad kept secret

>>539562618
Reminder he was right about the pivot and without his sacrifice maintenance mode for the gamewould had began a year earlier, right after SoC.
Basically you can thanks Legend for the great ToD and the (less) good OfD
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>>539563776
Nah, it was total bull
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flat earthers are saner than pivotfags, unironically
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>>539563883
>>539563893
>They hated him because he told them the truth
You own Legend an apology. If the Pivot stuff wasnt real, the he was banned for life from any collaboration with CA?
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>>539564327
*then why he was banned
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>>539564327
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>539564327
I don't argue with ESLs that capcha though damn
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>>539541118
Neat
Genoa
National Trait - Italian Unification: if nation controls all of modern Italy, +20% research speed and +5 town wealth growth, +10 town wealth saturation mitigation & -25% clamour for reform in Central Italy, Liguria, Lombardy, Savoy & Venetia.
Looking at it all the Italian states have the trait
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>>539563776
And they couldn't have at least gotten the last chaos dlc done before jumping?
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>>539559487
bump
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>>539564917
Hyena basically almost killing CA forced them to Pivot again to rush 40K and M2
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>>539537650
The Old Ones were degenerates.
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>>539564327
Good morning saar you benchod bloody bastard
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Total War 40k? What nonsense. Space Marines and Eldar don't fight in big unwieldy hundred-man regiments you know. It would be a terrible fit for the franchise.
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>>539559487
>>539565142
Few days ago, some anon here said that creamAPI no longer work for them but smokeAPI will do.
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Best thing Legend did was make sure we didn't get the Lords of Shang Yang dlc desu but I wouldnt put it past CA to have repurposed the DLC for their "big update" next year
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>>539565948
the best thing legend did was breed his submissive and docile asian wife
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>>539551375
>1 Lord (mage or ranged)
>2 Heroes (1 melee / 1 mage)
>3 bolt throwers
>8 spearmen
>6 bowmen
That's what I use in general, I may do some "thematic armies" too.
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Delves are so boring, just shadesmanni spam. I hate beasts like hydras to be honest.
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>>539566529
>>1 Lord (mage or ranged)
>>2 Heroes (1 melee / 1 mage)
>>3 bolt throwers
>>8 spearmen
>>6 bowmen
That's usually what I do too. I keep wanting to chuck in a phoenix or dragon but I don't know how to make them work with the other units. I don't want them to get shot by my own archers.
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>>539566529
>no cav
DISGUSTAN
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>>539565941
i do have a working version of smokeapi, i just wanna know if i get banned for playing multiplayer on cracked dlc's
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>>539566824
No one is forcing you to do that
It's not even the most efficient just the laziest
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>>539567713
I have unironically started using cold knights now that they are not trash. Idk, I look at the Helves and they have so many more types of units, kinda jelly.
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>>539565664
Guard do. SM will be the Ogres of 40k. Eldar infantry will move like Cavalry because of Fleet of Foot and have cavalry-sized units.
>Guard
M2 style campaign. You pick one of several sub0factions based on sectors. The Emperor serves as the pope surrogate, occasionally giving you missions. You fight xenos to gain influence and gradually confederate the rest of the Imperium, or turn traitor and map paint while venerating chaos.
>SM
Horde faction, with their fleets serving as army and settlement, with a home sector containing your chapter/recruiting worlds that must be defended. You are automatically allied with all loyalist Imperium factions and go around joining battles to help the Guard, earning income and progressing your tech tree by earning battle favours from fighting alongside them, or by destroying traitor factions.
>Orks
Traditional TW map painting campaign. You blob and snowball from world to world with mechanics that actively reward you for building momentum or punish you for letting it stall.
>Necron
First phase of the campaign, they function like Coast. You have limited resources and go around searching for Tomb Worlds that you 'activate' like building Pirate Coves. Tomb Worlds lay dormant once activated while you gradually develop them, before finally awakening. You can only occupy fully awakened Tomb Worlds, so you first seed the galaxy, then return to reap it later.
>Tyranid
Traditional horde campaign. Your empire is your hive fleet. You find world, you eat world. You must eat to survive and race against time to keep your fleet fed as it grows.

You get the idea.
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>>539568489
Yeah see this is the issue with the delusion
5% thought about how the factions will actually fit into the battle side of the game, 95% thinking about the campaign side
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>>539568489
I don't really give a shit about 40k tw but I'd play it if my boy Bluddflagg is in.
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>>539569086
No one plays the battles. We just auto resolve.
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>>539567953
I feel the opposite, whenever I play Helves I wish I was playing Delves instead
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>>539568489
No one was talking about the overworld map stuff, obviously that would work fine
It's telling 120 guardsman to go somewhere that's going to look dumb
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Luminark of Hashish
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da boyz were too apgroo to lose
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>>539570092
Yeah, a Total War where by default every soldier has an automatic weapon...not happening
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>>539534890
Life so you have like 8 helstorms 8 life wizards to heal themselves while they hold enemy at bay while helstorms unleash. gg no re
Incase the joke isn't obvious, I don't suggest or even do this. I don't like Gelt armies or plays that have a bunch of wizards, despite his buffs to them.
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>>539570798
Gorduz ruins the chorf campaign
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https://youtu.be/HjWi7LiDy7E
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>>539571221
Only if you're a joyless neurotic who thinks the game is 'over' by turn 20. Also, Drazhoath has one of the hardest starts in the game, without Gorduz he wouldn't stand a chance.
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is total war good?
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>>539571193
this is my somwehat "thematic" Gelt army I'm sending to conquer Lustria, I should probably change the warrior priest for a life wizard but I love these bald niggas, Also, I'm gonna get raped with menaces from below with this army I just fucking know it.
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>>539572972
Is Total War good for you?
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>>539572972
no. But it's the only thing that scratches a very specific itch
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>want to play with Cathay early gunpowder units like bombers and iron hail gunners
>by the time I get the infrastructure up I'm already two provinces away
>Spamming cheap not ashigaru spear and archer stacks is just to good to bother
>global recruitment takes to long and am trapped in the "gotta take a settlement every turn or I'm losing" mentality
>lvl 40 faction leader dragon demigod with elite but basic army of peasants
>lvl 3 general with elite infantry and artillery nepo baby has to march for ten turns just to get to frontlines

Every campaign man I just can't shake this, then half the time I just cannot be bothered to play any of the battles anymore, I just wanna play with the endgame shit but by the time I get to it I'm already bored because I'm auto resolve spamming victories against offensive siege battles.

How do I fix this lads? One turn recruit, growth, construction, and 9,999,999 income per turn cheats so I can just do what I want?
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>>539573106
Why not ultra scale units?
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>>539573527
toaster computer
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>>539573559
ok fair
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>>539572972
I don't know...
Where am I? What are you doing in my house!?
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>>539573164
no it makes me angry
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>>539567510
Ellyrion Reavers in that one Ellyrion-thematic army led by a Princess.
Silver Helms in Tyrion army.
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>>539573807
>le heckin theme
Just use the fucking units
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>>539573243
Imagine being a peasant shit with a basic spear and seeing your dragon demigod leader wiping half the army by herself and then she says "good job everyone"
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>>539573708
How do you know if it's your house if you don't know where you are?
Fucking stupid nigger.
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>>539566824
Consider the following:
-Beasts (human slaves)
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>>539574035
I can fix her.
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>>539573243
Triple growth cheat for sure, CA saw player metrics were quitting before turn 90 from the shitty campaign AI and thought they could squeeze more engagement by delaying the good units. Instead of fixing the campaign AI they slap a different bandaid on and worsen the entire experience. Gobbos and marauders only for 40 turns is horse shit, I'll go play historical if I want to watch chaff spears vs chaff spears.
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>>539574020
Rude...D:
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>>539574017
and then she sucks them all off individually as payment
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>>539573243
I can't imagine using an army composition I don't like instead of just stopping for 4 turns and remaking my entire army.
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>>539573243
Stop building up newly taken provinces just slap a gold building down
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>>539574775
you underestimate the autism of some players
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>>539570092
Guardsman actually do fight in units that big. They canonically fight WW1 style, in 100-man companies split into 50-man platoons.
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>>539481337
update: i won
the AI is actually fucking retarded even on very hard
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>enemy artillery keeps hitting the trees
>wait for them to run out of ammo
Classic
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>>539575376
Yeah spread across a trench not line-firing like it's the Napoleonic era
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>>539575868
Hellcannons are fuckers with the homing
Still shameful display to cheese that hard though
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>>539575868
When the first cannonball of demon fire hit the tree to no effect, Chorf autism took over and they began an impromptu field testing. By Hashut, surely this cursed tree must fall sometime.
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>>539573243
>mfw playing modded cathay with romance mod by deer24 and Nagash mod
>it's turn 90+
>Miao is fighting doomstacks of chaos invading china and Nagash's legions
>3 units of peasant spears who fought everyone, starting with rebels ending with heavenly kings, Nagash himself and tribes of chaos are still holding the line
>mfw Miao getting together and pregnant with one of those veterans
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>>539575746
AI is always retarded. Difficulty just gives them cheats.
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>>539576958
-N-O-
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>>539574093
There is nothing left to save ...
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How are Lustria campaigns now in the hotfix? Do ai Lizardmen put up a threat yet?
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>>539566529
>>539567149
you are literally retarded if you aren't using cavalry. you are also cucking yourself out of ap by not using dragons/chickens.
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>"ARE YOU A GOD?"
Translates to
>"Are my dad?"
for me for some reason.
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will i get banned for creamapi in multiplayer
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>>539573106
>6 heroes
>2 (two) melee infantry to screen 4 ranged infantry and 4 artillery
disgusting

>>539573243
>am trapped in the "gotta take a settlement every turn or I'm losing" mentality
just stop doing this. forget that you ever watched legend.
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>>539577032
> romance mod by deer24
Oh dope does that make the cathayans more three kingdoms loo-
>It's just armor porn for the empire
>Literal and I mean literal fucking sigmarines with hussar wings, a flaming lance and a zweihander in either hand
I hate armor fetishists. They just don't understand that if everyone is giga-armored Dark souls niggas then nobody stands out.

>>539568489
SM wouldn't be horde aside of black templar kinda shit. More is that it'd be like WoC where you have a limited option of what you can have as a chapter world, elsewhere you just get the VC/Tzeentch style mini settlement if you own it. I'm not abreast of the more recent shit but I'd wager some SM are even more territorial outright like I assume if they kept the not-WRE/ERE divide going that Donte el exterminador de demonios up in the northern half actually has his bangles directly control rather than just letting sissy bitch governors run it like nothing new has happened.

And of course Ultramar. Which would be an easy way to make the Ultramarines a more accessible SM faction -
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>>539581884
No
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>>539581884
>multiplayer
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>>539573892
I suse all of them, but not all of them in all armies.
Allastair = White Lion.
Allarielle = tree and sisters
Saphery = Archmage + many mage + Swordmasters + Loremasters
>>539581263
Bolthrowers and Sisters of Avelorn are the AP.
Also my ranged kill every routing units without need of any cav.
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>realize that the AI won't have a faction declare on you while you're at war with another nearby one and you can declare wars on factions weaker than you to avoid being declared on by stronger ones
>game solved
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>>539581884
mpiggers get banned anyway
>from where?
heaven
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>>539582207
Doesn't work 100% of the time I'm at war with Khalida and I had Skarbrand and Mannlet declare war on a few turns apart.
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>>539580774
They didn't fix the AI lizardmen not recruiting units
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>>539582207
Abusing diplomatic relations is cheating.
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>>539581987
>>539582023
playing warhammer3 campaign with a friend so i wanna know
>>539582243
dont bully im not a ranked nigga
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>>539581935
Didnt finish the thought. Ultramar letting you actually hold and govern territory proper, not just hand it off to the guards.

>>539545306
Never forgive CA for not going with Ungols. I don't give a fig about ethnic division (They should have it but they are weenies, fine), but at least HAVE the ungols. "We're united in chaos" not "We don't even distinguish between one another anymore".

>>539535512
I only tried cathay briefly but I was made to understand they were male melee female ranged. When it turns out in fact they are male and female melee, and female only ranged. So it's more like 75% women. Still cannot understand the unholy alliance between ryona and guro fags and yasqweeners. Unless it's amazonian types like witch elves who are already ride or die I'm not exactly thrilled to be seeing women march off into the charnel house of war but I guess I'm a le heckin patriarchal bigot
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>>539582128
bolt throwers are pretty trash outside of a few niche cases. cavalry is important for way more than just chasing routing units.
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>>539582429
why even release it then
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>>539582429
lol for fucking real
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>>539566529
Do you really need more than one bolt thrower? They really aren't that good for anything other than large SEM.
I only ever bring one if I don't have any other units with Siege Attacker.
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>>539566529
I don't see a need for 3 bolt throwers, I can see two at a max but why do you need three? Do you really just evicerate enemy SEM or artillery with them?
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Sky junks are actual GARBAGE what the shit? This thing is more inaccurate than a rank 0 helstorm rocket in WH1, deals way less damage and is a single entity that you can't properly defend from getting sniped due to always flying and being so slow.
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>>539583413
>All in all, the Sky Junk is a true powerhouse end game unit, part of the formidable Cathay artillery range that can win you a battle before the enemy even gets close to you.
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the throng is mustard
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>>539584408
boobs too big
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>>539583413
disable fire at will
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Minotaurs of Bretonnia
zaa zoo
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LegendofTotalWar here, just came to say that your favorite unit is shit.
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>>539583413
>name of the unit is JUNK
>anon expects it to be a good unit
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>>539582641
>>539582717
>>539582429
6.3.1 is not out yet.
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If Medieval 3 was a thing, would War of the Roses be a campaign expansion?
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>>539584408
Alarielle looks like THAT ?
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>>539585724
this
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>>539583413
Deal with enemy archers first, then shoot their melee guys point blank from behind.
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>>539582532
>>539582806
>>539582898
I need 3 bolthrowers to kill Black Dragons as quickly and as far as possible
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I really like these
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>>539587748
same, spearmen are an underrated unit
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>>539587748
why did they think the native american deer man was an appropriate unit for the slav faction?
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>we need to hotfix the beta for the hotfix for the beta of the patch

Do they have like 6 people working on Total War at CA?
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>>539588024
Isn't it an Ostankya unit and she starts in not-native-america.
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>>539537423
Cute
Also based for killing rats
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LegendofTotalWegh 'ere and todayz we'll be savin yer dizasta battle. Diz onez wuz zent in by a git named Milkunkukiez.
We are playan az da pointy ear gitz verzus 'Iz Immenzity Grom! Wuz's diz? Dat army doezn' look 'ard 'ta beat at all! Maybez dere's sum 'idden problem..Hmmm terrain loaded everythin' luukz normal.
Alrigt I'll juzt zet up the line of pointy stickz and set my arrerz behind 'em, let em kham at me. Alrigt 'dere we go stand still an' stick doze wagons un Grom wit arrers! Hold da line ya gitz, 'ere have zum spellz. Alright, datz da hard part done da fast boyz are dead. Now just stay put an' shoot.
Guud a decisiv victoreh. I dunno how ya fukt diz up diz badly, it'z eazy. Anyway I'll send ya back da file ya worthlez git!
NOW SQUARE FETCH MA ARMOR STRETCA, VENRIZ'Z SLAYA GITZ NEED KRUMPIN'!
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>>539588127
CA ditched WH3 and left the corpse to Sofia. When a new team comes on there's always a period of chaos while they learn how to unravel the knot of spaghetti code that the previous team had learned to hack around. That this transition has been such a prolonged mess just speaks to how absolutely fucked the state of the game's source code was left in, and probably how little onboarding the new team got before getting left to the wolves
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>>539588530
uh based
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>>539588162
>juan bo should get an obsidian jaguar unit because he starts in lustria
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>>539588024
They needed some big monster model for the consoomers and it CAN be summoned by humans, so there you go
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>>539589414
>Cathay should get something cool for a change
Sure. Give them a fun and not-retarded LL for a change too please.
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can any fucking horse unit hit a routing SE?
you think they would fix this shit given 70% of the factions use the same dogshit horse animations
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Stock Market Crash התרסקות שוק המניות Black Tuesday יום שלישי השחור The Great Depression השפל הגדול Rampant Speculation ספקולציות משתוללות Hyper-Inflation היפר אינפלציה Abolishment of the Gold Standard ביטול תקן הזהב The Federal Reserve הפדרל ריזרב The International Monetary Fund קרן המטבע הבינלאומית Stock Market Crash of התרסקות שוק המניות 1973-74 Energy Crisis of the 1970s משבר האנרגיה של שנות השבעים The Secondary Banking Crisis משבר הבנקאות ה Steel Crisis משבר פלדה הלטינית Israel Bank Stock Crisis of 1983 משבר מניות בנק ישראל De-industrialization דה-תיעוש Outsourcing of Labor מיקור חוץ של העבודה Sweatshops סדנאות הזעה Negative Commodity סחורה שלילית The Long March Through the Institutions הצעדה הארוכה דרך המוסדות Dot-Com Bubble בועת נקוs Energy Crisis of the 2000s משבר אנרגיה משנות האלפיים September 11th Stock Market Crash 9/11 התרסקות שוק המניות Subprime Mortgage Crisis משבר משכנתאות הסאב - פריים Mortgage-backed Securities ניירות ערך מגובים משכנתא Collateralized Debt Obligations התחייבויות חוב מבוטחות Rating Agencies סוכנויות דירוג Jewish Cronyism קרוניזם יהודי The Revolving Door הדלת המסתובבת Lobbying Firms חברות לובי The Hedge Fund Rent-Boy Scandal שערוריית שכר הדירה של קרן הגידור Brexit Stock Market Crash התרסקות שוק המניות של הברקזיט Cryptocurrency Crash קריסת מטבעות קריפטו 2018 Stock Market Crash of קריסת שוק המניות 2020 Naked Shorts מכנסיים עירומים Fails-to-Deliver נכשל במסירה Market Manipulation מניפולציה בשוק
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Non-Herdstone related history is for FAGGOTS
RAA ROO
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>>539591294
Cool it with the anti-khazalidism
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I dont have the victory achievement for wood elves or high elves. Who should I get it as? Using victory conditions overhaul cheat
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>>539594091
Why do you ask, anon? Just pick whoever takes your interest. You managed to do this other factions (supposedly).
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>>539594091
>wood elves
drycha for unique experience
otherwise the twins
orion is lowkey overpowered for being able to get to 0 upkeep for his entire faction
>high elves
prob alarielle or tyrion for comfy campaigns desu but just hold off until dlc is out bc they may be a rework
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Every time I run into Golgfag, he's oddly polite and amicable to whoever I'm playing.
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>>539594091
I thought Durthu was really easy to play in WH1 but maybe that's changed
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>>539588127
wh3 engine is from 10+ years ago made by people who have not worked at ca for 10 years jury rigged by incompetent retards for 10 years then given to a completely new team that mostly built new games entirely from the ground up with the exception of rome 2 dlc that fixed a lot about that mess of a game
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>>539594442
I've never been attacked by any ogres, they all just want to trade, no matter what faction I'm playing.
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>>539596308
play Drycha or Ku'Gath and enjoy Ogre Pain
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I'm playing Settra and Wurrzag is busy fucking steamrolling and already at strength rank 1 at turn 10

how fucked am i
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>>539596767
you have to kill him once his waagh runs out and fast
otherwise skarbrand will demolish you when he discovers you
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>>539596767
just be friendly to him.
Do you want to ally thorek and volkmar or something?
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>>539590682
>>539591294
pay no attention to these posts
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it has never been more over
it will be surprising if they actually release tides
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>>539596478
they had it coming
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>>539597621
Which Sister is the Blonde and which is the Brunette
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>"Defeated Lord Mazdamundi"
>Trait: Leadership aura size +25%

Is this the worst possible LL defeat trait?
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>>539598687
Some will only reduce one specific kind of attrition. Those are probably the worst
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>>539598523
>Which Sister is the Blonde
The light haired one
> which is the Brunette
The dark haired one
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>>539588832
>Ditched
I guess in the technical sense of the word yes but you guys act like it was going to be a +10 year life cycle game. It came out in 2022, it was the last call of content for a game from 2016. Like I would prefer we get some lizardmeme improvements but it's also just be realistic here.
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>>539598687
mannfred, orion, noctilus or lokhir come to mind
like to the point where you actively want to avoid fighting them but ya mazdamundi is bad too
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>>539594091
Tyrion is mega easy, I might play him again soon just for a braindead campaign that lets you get reach superpower status quickly.
>conquer ulthuan and naggaroth
>break the ordertide by souring relations between couronne, reikland, and karaz-a-karak
>war of the beard 2 entirely of my volition
kino
Orion is also quite strong and I enjoy using him in battles - kind of a hybrid do-everything unit but not mega tanky. The ability to raze and then hide is so slept on, although obviously 0 upkeep on everybody is great. The campaign is kind of a snooze fest once you clear out athel loren's threats, then you pick a few forests and deepstrike into what is no doubt bordering a mega empire (malekith/morathi in the witchwood, the gelt-cathay alliance, oreon's wood surrounded by dawi, orcs, or vamps, lustria khornate, rat or druchii hell) and smash endturn for 100 turns while doing pointless crusades just until athel loren gets healed enough then roll the final battle.
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>>539596478
Drycha's ogre pain is the worst imo
>2 units of dryads in front of your archer unit? let me walk right through lol
>dryads engaged? let me charge into the side of them and wipe 60% of their health lmao
obviously it's over quick but facing lategame ogres as Drycha without treemanii would be miserable
They're also annoying to fight as chorfs but mainly since they'll just dogpile you with anyone else you're at war with, instead of being chill. I do like fighting them as Ku'gath or Ghorst though, they're actually kind of lame in melee in the AI's hands, and the constant routing lets your healing be more effective.
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So does Ikit just get ONE Doomrocket as an AI total or does he get one every battle? I've never fought him if I could get away with it without just having enough force to autoresolve my way through his settlements because I cannot be fucked unless I'm an unga bunga faction to fight against Skaven
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>>539602969
iirc he gets 1 which he will always save for his first battle with the player, then you won't see one again.
Possibly gets another if he's resurrected as the endgame crisis or if still alive when the endgame crisis triggers - iirc only if he's resurrected.
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>>539602969
i've seen him make another if he survives long enough but its rare
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havin fun but my borders are looking kinda weird, barbarians pushed down from the mountains and conquered Assur so you know I had to go up there and conquer them in revenge
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>>539588127
Think it's just one actually, the guy who writes the patch notes in ESL.
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>>539598523
It's easy: you have the Nice one, Naestra, and you have the Angry one Arahan.
Also because Arahan is the slutty one they gave her some makeup.
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>>539606480
>long-term commitment Naestra!
>one-night stand Arahan!
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I wanna play Vampire Counts but I don't have the Grim and the Grave DLC. Am I going to be missing anything major without it?
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>>539609128
Yes, you're going to miss a grim amount of units and your playthrough will be very grave indeed.
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>>539606480
Arahan is a gyaru. Naestra is a good girl. I get it now.
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Is Teclis an elf-supremacist ? He is talking about great remplacment here ...
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>>539609128
>no corpse cart
>no mortis engine
unironically bricked
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>>539545653
The fun thing is that, in Warhammer lore, Boris was more of an exception than his daughter. Ice queens are sort of dime a dozen in Kislev's history, the Orthodoxy is the upstart new religion trying to overtake the old order.
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>>539537423
delete-remove this
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How I sleep knowing that within just over a month I will be playing with Aislinn.
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>>539551238
>delf sorceress runs off from her husband to chase squire dick
i'm imagining
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How I sleep knowing that within just over a month I will own the Tides of Torment DLC and start another Franz campaign for the hundredth time
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>>539609128
It's worth buying just for Volkmar tbhwy.
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>>539610860
>male helf
pass
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>>539609339
Ulthuan has fallen. Billions must die.
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What do I do? I love playing Tehenhauin but I'm so bored. I haven't even unlocked Saurus Scar Veterans as a recruitable unit and I've already achieved Short Victory. All the Lizards are dying and thanks to Legendary Lord Recruit I'm picking them up without any effort. And all the Skaven in Lustria are already dead.
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so glad they fixed sieges
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>>539612032
whoops wrong thread haha
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>>539612185
Funnyroo!
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I didn't try the siege beta, what did I miss?
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>>539613024
Literally nothing, nothing was fixed, nothing was addressed
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>>539613024
Couldn't climb walls anymore, had to siege at least 1 turn to build ladders, siege attacker traits removed.
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>still fighting sieges
>instead of just removing walls and buffing garrisons
get with the times granpa
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>>539614259
>posted this so many times now others are following suit
Holy. Honestly for those who dislike siege/walls etc at all, try it. You can additionally remove minor settlement battles too if you like.
>inb4 but vanilla field maps suck
Cheats fix this too.
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>>539602969
he gets one to start with but it is never used in autoresolve so that means the player always gets hit with it the first time they manual battle ikit
dont know if he can actually make more
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Missing string? More like, missing a rework KEK
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>>539599923
>you guys act like it was going to be a +10 year life cycle gam
Well, why not? It's worked for basically every paradox game to come out in the last 10 years, and they are unironically CA's main competition and the only other big fish in the strategy eurogame market right now.

CA's tendencies to bail on their cash cows after an arbitrary dev cycle or after 1 singular DLC sells poorly is a failure of management. The very fact that thousands of people have bought TWWH three times and still play it religious despite the marginal differences between each "sequel" speaks to their longevity. CA just doesn't seem to understand how to capitalize on that.
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>>539612185
too soon man
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>>539615186
Bretonnia is fine. She doesn't need a rework. Fuck off.
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>>539616249
don't misgender bretonnia
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>>539604834
that's going yo be fun trying to defend from invasions later on
do you get bonuses for fighting along the river like egyptians do?
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>>539615186
>>539616249
KEKAROOOOOOOO
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>Laurelorn counts for 100 Imperial Authority
Gay, the Laurelorn Elves are the most friendly towards the Empire and do not like their Athel Loren brethren, willing to coexist and many female elves make their way to Reikland looking for a mate.
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>>539618421
yeah I don't know why the trees count for it, seems a bit odd.
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>>539618421
>and many female elves make their way to Reikland looking for a mate.
Elaborate on this.
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>>539618639
Its odder when you factor in that The Eonir colonized Laurelorn Forest before the Aserai did Athel Loren. They hold proper claim to the area.
>>539619256
Laurelorn elves set up a camp near Altdorf ever since one of them got mindbroken by Reiklander cock after spying on the College of Magic that Teclis set up and wondering why he picked such a shit location in Altdorf when there was a better location nearby. Seeing this group is a common sight in Altdorf.
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>>539619256
plot of vermintide
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>>539616337
I'm not, Bretonnia is a beautiful lady, graceful, sweet, kind, she is a lovely rose who inspires the noble to fight and protect her from those who would wish her corruption.
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>>539615186
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>>539621792
bretonnia is a cock-gobbling whore
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You're laughing. Warhammer 3 is literally dying and you're laughing
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>my first tehenhauin campaign
>battered and bruised but cleansed the local area of rats
>ikit claw pops up with 3 full armies on botes
FUCK OFF
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>>539618421
I usually let the elves keep their little forests, they make good pets
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I wish morghur actually did anything so it wouldn't just be ikit taking over that corner every campaign
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>>539630382
Beastmeme AI and AR is a joke
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>>539584408
was hoping she was going to get assassinated or something
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How do people even want sieges to go? I can't imagine this community ever being happy with and looking forward to them.
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whats longma
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>>539631237
nobody actually knows how to fix sieges, they just think they are shit and unfun and want them to be better
they are fundamentally awful in a way that just cannot be fixed at this point
the ai is awful so you can cheese the shit out of them offensively
unit pathing is awful so playing them correctly feels like cleaning shit out of a carpet, units constantly get stuck (sometimes permanently), barricades make it even worse
like literally everything to do with them is full of bugs; walls, gates, platforms, barricades, towers
how do you fix that
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>>539631237
I was happy with the siege beta and think it's a step in the right direction. In fact I won't play until the changes are brought to the live patch
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>>539629001
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>>539631237
I never liked the siege supply shit
Ramshackle towers and barriers being whipped up in a minute under a cloud of smoke is too cartoony for my liking
It should have just been a resource you have a set amount of before battle starts to spend in the setup phase

Also I want to be able to put ARTILLERY ON THE FUCKING WALL
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I wonder if they paid those who went over the top first more money than those that followed
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>>539632352
this but the campaign AI beta, shit was perfect and they ruined it for karl franz normies.
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>>539635686
They were paid in not being called a fucking pussy. I am absolutely certain that social shame brought billions of men to certain death through history.
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I'VE GOT A HOCHLAND SCOPES

I'VE GOT A HOCHLAND SCOPES

BLESSED THEE GOD, JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT

BLESSED THEE VIRGIN MARY
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>>539637937
>Otomo clan upon first getting guns from Eurochuds
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>>539540980
>>539541524
>>539637937
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>>539638162
What does it do?
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>>539638213
Gives 10% more range attack for guns.
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>>539637937
Kinda tempted to do a run stacking hochland scopes. Yes I can be that fickle where a random anon post brings me to play a specific/retarded campaign. Has happened a handful of times before.
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>>539640278
i thought they made it so you can't stack the scopes anymore
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>>539640541
"can't" in what way? Because as far as I'm aware, you can stack a basic recruitable unit like that no problem, anon. Unless you mean "can't" like, it's a bad idea and you'll lose eventually. Then yea probably, it doesn't sound great.
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>CA needs to hotfix the hotfix
what the fuck is going on
sole qa person laid off?
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>>539640648
can;t stack lords m8
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>>539640278
>>539640648
hochland scopes on lords gives range to the army
however hochland scopes on engineers has been nerfed to only provide range to himself, but it used to stack for army range on release of thrones of delay
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>>539640761
>no longer army wide
Did they apply the same logic to other non-legendary hero army-wide shit, too? Or do they just arbitrarily pick yes to some and no to others?
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>>539640889
i feel like wood elves used to have a similar issue but ya it's arbitrary on what stuff the tcaluk lets you stack
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>>539641027
Ah, figures. I haven't hero stacked at all in TW3 and think I only did once in TW2 (dookie master). My bad, didn't know they done some changes to what does and doesn't stack.
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Yin-Yin Never Ever

The big game they're working on is probably Total War: Age of Sigmar
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>>539615186
Why are you being a dick, anon? Go help Louen find his missing string.
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>>539640761
Use cheats to reverse it to its original state, before mpfags who play mp campaign complained, cried, shat and piss their pants and had it changed.
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>mfw doomwheels
Doomflayers just don't hit right.
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I defeated him with Cylostra Direfin
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Akinator can also not guess Aranessa
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is bretonnia still shit
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>>539642512
ya
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>>539642512
no im ripping up athel loren with them RIGHT NOW
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>>539645161
say no mo
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>>539645546
I look like this
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>>539645546
hell yeaa!!!
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>>539646385
he saved TWG
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>>539640662
White people are just bad workers.
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>>539637650
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forlorn_hope
Specifically for the romans, there was also the mural crown
>The corona muralis (Latin for "walled crown") was a golden crown, or a circle of gold intended to resemble a battlement, bestowed upon the soldier who first climbed the wall of a besieged city or fortress
>As it was among the highest order of military decorations, it was not awarded to a claimant until after a strict investigation.
Like anon said, social status, and on the other hand, shame, were big factors. Very likely first pick of any plunder was also a big motivator.
I don't wanna make any too confident claims but generally it seems that if a city refused to surrender and was stormed, the troops could expect permission to pillage.
Even with professionals like roman legions, the promise of loot seems to have often been necessary to get them to follow the more risky orders.
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how is noctilus always soloing the entire donut of high elves with 1 settlement
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>>539650105
>britain
>white
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>>539650105
i thought the slavs were working on wh3 now?
oh well, they should go back to get ethnic brits to work on it
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>>539650105
More like LGBT people.
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>>539631237
>How do people even want sieges to go
I want them to go away
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>>539650737
I always see him getting wiped out by HElves eventually.
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how do I win this bros?
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>>539652871
yeah... i dont know any of these units...
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>>539652871
Hide in the funnel on the left, hide cav on the trees on the right. Shoot AI as they slowly move in for your army. Use cav to get rid of their artillery and ranged units once the main line is engaged.
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>>539651461
more like fucking g*uls
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>Do a very slow start Ostankya migration into Kislev campaign
>Kostaltyn gets wiped out and Katarin gets pushed down to two settlements
>I slowly keep chaos back and start taking back the Motherland
>Suddenly Franz and Elspeth steamroll the chaos fucking shits and take over all of Kislev
>Have to start settlement trading because I do not want to enter into war with them
Ok, how do I buy Kislev and Erengrad off of them?
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It's weird how much diplomatic emphasis the AI places on how you treat prisoners.
In DEI I tend to ransom prisoners to get some extra cash, and this results in a lot of weirdness like enemies of my enemies hating me because while I've smashed ten of our common foe's armies and taken multiple settlements, all they care about is the fact that I didn't massacre all the prisoners.
And then there's pic related.
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whats the shittiest campaign i can create by starting anywhere with any faction (with no climate)
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>>539654384
Khalida in the Mountains of Mourn.
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https://youtu.be/xAvqMnqC4Bs
LES GET WAFFLIN
>every space marine faction works like Daniel and you get to customize your chapter master at the start
Sounds like way too much work for current CA
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>>539653583
Take a high tier settlement you don't care about.
declare war on them, take kislev and erengrade real quick.
Give them the high tier settlement with a peace offer.
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>>539655058
Eh not too unbeievable, since it will just be weapon swapping and they will re-use animations from the normal units that use them.
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>>539655058
if they want absolutely nobody to play space marines, Daniel is so fucking boring
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>>539655058
>every spess mureen faction will be a carbon copy of the worst TWWH faction
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>>539537792
Speaking of the cabal when are we getting egrimm?
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>>539656124
lol
lmao, even
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>>539655058
>Company of heroes style combat with destructible terrain and buildings.
>Astartes are horde like
>Army painter features, not every space marines faction being like that, just the ability to do that if you want.
>Galaxy map with live updates like helldivers 2
>live scripted events like helldivers 2 like sudden invasions on the map.
>IG, Orks, Eldar, SM factions with maybe Chaos
Sounds good and is probably on a new engine.
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>>539655058
That's because there isn't going to be a 40k Total War.
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>>539656751
engrimm was confirmed to be coming along with the geomantic web rework and the bretonnia rework
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>>539655058
can't wait for the pivot posting and 9 month norsca tier delays
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>>539655058
>every space marine faction works like Daniel
He didn't say that, he said that there's the ability to customize the faction, not that every SM faction is Daniel.
Which would be easy to do since they already have the ground work for it, they just need to the new assets, and it's probably going to be something added together with DLC for other factions.
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>>539617230
what bonuses do egyptians get?
the rivers are a highway that allow you to easily reinforce any province along them, and those provinces produce an absurd amount of food so you can shit out low-tier units to your heart's content
but I don't think they make your troops fight any harder
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>>539657356
rofl
kek, even
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https://totalwarwarhammer.fandom.com/wiki/Prophecy_of_Sotek
>Stage 2: The Skaven War
>Initial Effect: All Skaven are at war with all Lizardmen, +30 Diplomatic relations with Lizardmen, Diplomacy with Skaven is locked
Would something like this would be fun for Bretonnia as part of an erranty wars mechanic?
Imagine declaring an errantry war against a certain Dark Elf faction and that eventually becoming a worldwide crusade for Total Druchii Death involving all Dark Elf factions and all Bretonnian factions.
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>>539658751
What even is the point of the Skaven War when by that time there won't be any lizardmen with Skaven near them?
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I guess maybe Nakai can go to war with Sniktch and fucking die because he's got one army against a dozen rat ones.
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>>539650779
Based Sikh
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>>539615186
Ffffuuuuaaaaarrrkk
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>>539658362
it might be unique to Amenmesse's faction now that I think about it, but he gets a title that gives bonus movement range and battle speed to his army when fighting on the nile, letting your already fast infantry outrun pretty much anything besides chariots
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>>539657123
>Army painter features
This game will so so much and so hard it's not even funny.
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>>539659926
>What even is the point of the Skaven War when by that time there won't be any lizardmen with Skaven near them?
Total Skaven Death.
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>>539659926
one of many features carelessly ported over from previous games
Lustria was crawling with both skaven and lizards in wh2 so it actually made sense (except that they hated each other enough that they would declar ware on each other anyways)
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>>539655058
If true then the campaign sounds a lot less "sandbox".
Does that mean I cannot conquer plannet-X by myslef ? I'd have to wait 14 days and the end of the community event to see who won ?
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10 months for a DLC.
Are we really going to lay down and accept that?
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>>539663170
>Are we really going to lay down and accept that?
Yes.
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>>539658362
>and those provinces produce an absurd amount of food so you can shit out low-tier units to your heart's content
Ehh.
Tier 1 units have half the food cost but they also have virtually no stats and abysmal morale. Even with all the buffs under the sun they don't match basic t2s in direct combat, they're basically only good for feeding to the enemy to absorb a charge, waste their ammo or tire them out since they're Expendable.

From t2 onwards the food upkeep only goes up by like ~5-10% per tier and because of how the game's economy and distribution of map resources is balanced (ie terribly) bronze is basically never a limiting resource, even with full t4 armies. Gold can be kind of limiting early depending on where you start but the fact that Supply Lines doesn't multiply gold upkeep makes t5/6s really efficient. You can support pretty much an entire t5 stack off a single gold settlement.
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CA should reward us with two FLC lords.
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Do people really think there's still going to be a DLC?
Lol.
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>>539598687
Ghorst's is the worse because Poison attacks can override any better contact effect you might have.
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>>539659926
Like >>539662354 said, its been carelessly imported from wh2
I like wh3s lustria in many ways, but as you said, the lizards die way too fast and it is very cramped.
Wh2s lustira, whatever its faults, was quite big and allowed for some breathing space.
You can to some extent ameliorate wh3s lustria problems with a mod that halves movement by 50% but that only does so much
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>>539663715
CA owes you nothing, chud.
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>>539663170
RISE UP GAMERS!
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>>539665868
With how hyenas butchered them with layoffs, I'd say CA does need to throw Total War fans a bone.
Fortunately for CA the fanbase are huge cucks and will throw money at them for scraps
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When do most people finish their campaigns doing if they're winning in Total War Warhammer 3? And like six turns ago I confederated with my legendary Lord sister.
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>>539666513
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>>539666773
average byzantine ancestry
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Posting pictures of ugly people should be outlawed.
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>>539667474
agreed, whe should only post sexy people
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>>539667474
But how will I goon to my ugly bastard fetish then?
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>>539667474
Being ugly should be outlawed
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>>539667474
I think legend looks alright, balding aside desu
Lotta dad energy
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>legend looks
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>>539668906
We cant outlaw 99% of humanity anon
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>>539669026
Her show FUCKING SUCKS
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>>539669041
>uglies
>human
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>>539669164
but she doesn't have a show...
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How much good boy points did you recieve from CA?
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>>539669427
I received one hotfix (beta).
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>>539668932
DILF
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So based on past dlcs, and assuming the late october release date holds, we should get a trailer either next week or in early october.
What do you think the trailer will like?
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>>539669813
it's going to be all 3 lords preparing for battle by saying one-liners in a dark room before meeting in an epic 3 way duel while their armies clash around them
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>>539670175
forgot to mention that it fades to the buy now screen the moment before their jumping attacks connect
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There will be a 4th Legendary Lord.
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>Early game
>have 2-3 units boring units.
>have little to no choice on who you declare war on
>tiny battles with very similar army types

>late game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7Ni6dtQaA
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>>539670175
>>539670327
>all 3 lords preparing for battle by saying one-liners in a dark room
>before meeting in an epic 3 way duel while their armies clash around them
>it fades to the buy now screen the moment before their jumping attacks connect
VGH... KINO....
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Get comfy guys it's a Sotek collab stream!
https://www.twitch.tv/stimpak_vt
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>>539672115
>all that fog hiding the cool battlefield
I hate it
I wish fog didn't exist
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>>539663684
for their cost tier 1s have good weight in the autoresolve bar ;)
>the food upkeep only goes up by like ~5-10% per tier
food upkeep is irrelevant if you have access to some of the best food provinces on the map
it's never your limiting factor, bronze upkeep is
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>>539667970
Why did they have to make Azazel so fucking ugly
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>>539672872
It's comfy af irl though
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>>539672115
>>539672661
Чиcтый ceкc, тoвapищ.
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>>539667970
Her getting captured corrupted followers of Slaanesh doesn't feel sexy to me it just sort of feels like this has sexually transmitted diseases hell that image of her being an offering to Greasus Goldtooth even that feels sexier to me then Slaanesh demons. But what I would like to see is her and nieces and nephews father or mother by her other dragon siblings.
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>>539672810
she is dead to me
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>>539672973
I know this is how it is on the tabletop from the beginning but GW making every single slanesh character ugly as fuck (except one male) always felt wrong. You're telling me the faction all about seducing people wouldn't have ONE conventionally attractive monster?
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>>539674245
I don't have it saved but the concept art for the new snake mount slaanesh is getting is unironically attractive, they literally gave her bedroom eyes
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>>539673332
Mindbreak is essentially the author/artist holding up a character and having it act in a way that makes zero sense for said character, so the artist waves their hand and says "mindbreak!" (magic)
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>>539655058
>campaign is a scripted 'narrative' mess
>can't even map paint anymore
>probably always online
>will certainly kill mods if it's always online
There go my hopes for a good TWW40k
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>>539675135
Theyre inaccurate as hell, but when they hit they cause a lot of damage, Cathays version is basically the same unit but a lot more accurate, im unsure what the fuck they do for accuracy. Same with Queen Bess vs Mortars or Dwarf Cannons vs Empire Cannons.
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>>539672810
Is she going to talk about the game or huffing markers again?
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>>539672810
She's no Clio.
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>>539655058
Wake me up when they build a new engine for TW to run on.
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>Hotfix for hotfix just got hotfixed.
They better give Mazda his fucking wallbreaker like advertised. I'm busy with Khalida now though so maybe next time.
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>>539655058

I would not believe in Total War Warhammer 40K is going to be a real thing until I see an actual trailer.
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>>539672810
I dont get how vtumorfags watch this shit, half the times its either someone playing a fake character and the other times its them hiding their appearance behind a moeshit character. The only ones I ever even remotely cared about were some of the Hololive ones that got doxxed and ppl found out 1 has a huge ass and another has huge tits irl
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>>539676078
Well if you watch vtubers you obviously don't care about their irl appearance
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>>539672810
saarlady has ugly fat bastard fetish I see
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>>539655058
Didn't some anon here say the same shit about how they're using Daniel as a base for more customization a few weeks ago?
Can someone find it? Seems awfully like what he's saying now.
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>>539662593
Sounds like an online mode if anything, I bet the usual offline campaign is still a thing, unless they're massively retarded.
Also could see this tying with the arrival of new DLC and races.
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>>539677203
she canonically has a raroo fetish
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with the dorf holds rework can I just turtle with 1 province?
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sotek is such a fucking creep
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>>539679656
try the Kraka Drak cheat and see
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>Stim: I have to activate the flc what does that mean
>Sotek: ...hold on I have to open up your stream and take a look
this is the man that is grooming our oshi btw
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>>539681101
kek true. we got cucked
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>>539681427
>We
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>>539681302
>stim
not my oshi
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>>539681101
hes gonna impregnate her. how do we feel about this
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Can you vtuber fags go to your designated shitting board please?
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>>539682142
*Heavy voice* NO
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>>539681101
>>539681302
unicornfags leave
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>>539681825
billions
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>sotek as orion and the bitch as enchantress
YOU CANT MAKE THIS UP
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>>539682608
kek
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ok nevermind this dude is way too autistic
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so this is how NTR feels like...I'm just going to start a Karl campaign and kill billions to my quench my sorrow.
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>>539683081
>made her laugh
more rizz than me desu
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>>539683081
we tried to warn you anon
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>>539681101
I thought he was only into ladyboys
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>>539683103
I forget most vtuber watchers are super sensitive holofags
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>made her laugh tree times now
CHADmaster sotek... I kneel...
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>>539683376
he likes dragon girls too, unfortunately
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>Tags: Vtuber, FUB, NTR
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Idk what you're all talking about, but I wanna see dead rats on a hill by the end of this.
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twg
>cucked by CA from DLC
>cucked by Sotek
how can we ever recover
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>Caring about some WHORE
>PEAR
yikes /twg/ without Total War not even once
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>>539684571
>>PEAR
wat
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>>539681101
Don't be jealous. Maybe if you'd like Lizardmen too (the designated girl faction), maybe you'll get bitches as well.
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>>539684642
'tis the face of S*ytek
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>>539684730
i dont get it
like his face shape?
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TOTAL WAR IS FINISHED
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3064810/Strategos/
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>character has a completely different set of voicelines if you win the civil war
that's very autistic of the Sofia devs, but I appreciate it

no wonder they went back and did Alberic's voice lines, it must have really bothered them how the main studio doesn't give a shit about the VA
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Id rather talk about 40k here.
Funnily enough there's no faggot complaining about this schizo NTR talk, but start talking 40k and he appears...
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>>539537567
No
The big update everyone is gooning about is literally just the devs stealing mods and doing them worse
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>>539685216
>40keks talks about cuckshittery
No surprises there many such cases
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>>539684994
>microprose
I'm assuming it's low budget slop then
also doesn't help Age of Empires 2 is getting an Alexander the Great DLC, I think I'll be satisfied with phalanx content for the foreseeable future
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>>539685185
Sofia puts a lot of emphasis on how things "feel", which is why we got things like the vampiric corruption in the tech tree to simulate Nagash's influence
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>>539541118
for the novelty alone i may just buy this
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>Warpstone Hoarder: Gains +3 AP missile damage for Plague Claw Catapults, Warp Lightning Cannon and Doomwheel units.

I could come up with better traits than this shit
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>>539677418
The same shit gets repeated over and over and has since day 1 of Daniel, newfriend.
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>>539681101
Always has been
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>>539681101
Is he the creep?
Or are you the creep for watching a stream of him and his wife?
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With the changes to spawning in the new hotfix, does Alignment of Crafting now produce more spawning points then Alignment of War?
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Imagine getting cuckolded by fucking Soitek of all people, this is pathetic
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>>539687242
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>>539686009
Its weird how uneven the traits are. When some are shit like "Giant Herder: +2 leadership to Giants when Defending" while others are "Disciplined: +10 MA +10 WS +2MA to all units in army".
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>>539687578
It's a water elemental
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>>539687463
Imagine feeling cuckolded by this lore explaining nerd
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>>539685216
>no faggot complaining
I complained right here
>>539682142
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>>539687836
>nerd
anon you play strategy games
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>>539688183
Yes I'm a nerd too what about it
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>>539687578
Knowing women have rape fantasies, this is nothing.
You might have a point regarding putting a public post with your face about it up though.
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>>539684994
>just like every other Total War rip off
>They ALL forget to add in a simple campaign.
>All they need is a Med 1/shogun 1 style chess piece map
>They all fail to do this and think the appeal is JUST battle sims.
>We had historical, pure battle sims trying to topple total war in 2006.
>More than a dozen and counting

"Muh battle realism"
"Muh terrain and formation autism"

Ok... and? That is half the fucking picture, it always was.
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>>539689035
trvthnvke
they have some nice features (I like the messenger system) but ffs we already custom battles in total war that are about equal and greater graphical fidelity
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>>539685472
You have negative reading comprehension
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>>539688045
i don't know man, you should read the steam page before talking shit.
This looks like EndWar + total war campaign.
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>>539686576
He looks like this
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so what did the hotfix for the hotfix for the other hotfix beta actually do
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40k when?
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>>539691675
After Bretonnia rework.
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>>539691450
It make me answer to reatrds.
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What legendary heroes are we going to get with Tides of Torment?
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>>539691925
soon then
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>>539689035
The one that I think got closest was King Arthur : The Role Playing Wargame series, but they've switched over to making tactics rpgs and TW has since borrowed features from their games.
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>>539692776
this game and its fanbase is heavily troon coded
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Hello /twg/, is there any way to disable this absolute shitshow of an event? I am extremely tired of Tier V settlements being razed seemingly at random. Alternatively, is there any action I can take in-game to make it stop?
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>>539692927
That's from one of the new unusual locations, isn't it? Just pay it away.
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>>539692927
skill issue
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>>539692992
Thanks, somehow in my seething rage I totally missed that it had an option similar to undercities/trickster cults
>>539692997
Eye issue, reading issue, unironically.
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>>539693171
How many tier V settlements did you lose due to not being able to read?
Or were you just being hyperbolic?
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>>539693330
I was being a little hyperbolic, though I did lose one Tier V settlement from it and multiple lesser settlements.
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>>539568489
>no mention of Tau or Eldar's or Chaos
Imperial Fanboy, get out of here, Future Tau mains run these threads
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Grom is cucking Sotek...
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>>539695476
Da bigges gobbo... in more ways than one.
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Walahi I am saved by the bullshit map
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>>539695476
good
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Give me a faction to play.
I never played more than about 30 turns since I finally got pissed off at how shit sieges are and hwow bad AI is at them so I got a mod to remove them

I did pirate all the DLC and a, not going to use High Elves due to the new DLC soon

I'm not worried about winning in the battles, I'm more concerned about getting my shit pushed in on the campaign map since I'm shit at that part
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>>539695883
DRUCHII
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>>539695734
thermopylae cheating ass nigga
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>>539695734
I feel like all of cathay maps are kinda sucky
Like that one map where the AI always defends at the top of a mountain
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>>539692927
Isn't it in one of the tickboxes you can enable/disable on campaign settings? Pretty lame if this one isn't included in such. I think they said they're adding more unusual location-related options for next patch in the settings too.
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>play melee faction
>maps of flat plains and open desert
>play gunpowder faction
>maps of hills and valleys and forests

For fuck sakes man, got absolutely shitfucked by Vlad because the map was some godawful hill forest despite me standing on what I assumed was gonna be a bridge map.
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>>539695883
>I'm not worried about winning in the battles, I'm more concerned about getting my shit pushed in on the campaign map
Greenskins (maybe not Skarsnik though) might be a good choice, because they can't even trade so you don't need to worry about campaign mechanics outside of picking who to kill next, and upgrading your units.
Warriors of Chaos has a similar playstyle, but they are also more complicated for new players because of the warband system.
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>>539696063
If this was a good game the world map would allow for it to be deliberate
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>>539696962
trvthnvke
its high past time CA allowed us to view battlefields before we attack/are attacked
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Nothin' personal Sotek...
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>>539697375
?
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>>539696962
>>539697150
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3065428472
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>>539695623
>>539697375
it's like poetry
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>>539697906
Nowhere near good enough, you should know just by mousing over an area what "type" of map you'll get
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>>539698059
But... you do
Did you not even read anything on the mod page?
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>>539698182
mei ban fa
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>>539696826
>not abusing hills as a gunpowder army
Is this bait?
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Wow Cathay's growth sucks
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>>539696826
I find Cathay gets the best maps for its playstyle out of all the factions
The tiered rice paddies are AMAZING for setting up gun-lines
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>>539698182
wu xing hao ping
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>>539698468
>>539699103
Anime website owned by an Asian
Cope
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>>539699175
>he doesn't know mei ban fa
gweilo, baizuo even
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>>539699175
all i said was 5 big booms
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>>539699175
bait or retarded?
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>>539699402
>>539699641
>>539699797
English speaking American website
Go back
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>>539699402
I want to tickle her feet.
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>>539699951
bait AND retarded
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>>539698680
It's because they actually have something going on other a big field with patches of trees or a bunch of trees with patches of field.
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>>539700563
Kislev and Tomb Kings have some unique maps too.
Technically everyone does but it's 99% carbon copies with some backdrop differences.
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>enemy army has a ton of abilities
>play the battle
>deletes entire units with a single ability
>reload and autoresolve
>take no casualties

Why even play battles if you're just gonna lose a unit of whatever because of some incredibly crazy powerful op point and click ability when your attention is elsewhere
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>>539701065
Because you enjoy playing the game? What sort of question is this?
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>>539542204
That is why you have to move onto paradox. (lmao)
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>>539701065
Faggots like you are the reason this game has gotten so shit.
>Waaaah I have to recruit a unit in a total war game, i should be able to paint the map, take no loses, and turn my brain off!
Cry more faggot.
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>>539696826
>get map good for melee
>get map great for gunpowder
Anon?
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>>539696826
>not being a tactical master and fucking the stupid, retarded, dumb, baby-mode AI up anyway
Map has never been an issue no matter the faction lmao.
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>>539701065
The army ability creep has gotten out of control. Its no longer a real time tactics game. I never want to fight newer factions now because of how cancerous they are to fight. Take me back to wh1.
>>539701159
No one enjoys have skaven spawn in on their artillery or having their grail guardians deleted by a doomrocket or having a dreadquake morter delete 3 units.
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>>539701973
If you think army abilities are bad now, imagine TWWH 40k.
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Fighting skaven sucks ass
>Menaces below your ranged units
>Warp lightnings your elite units
>One of their shitstack units routes and quite possibly routes through tour units for some retarded reason
>Repeat 5-6x every fight
Other factions are also bad but fuck rats goddamn.
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>>539702778
t. cavlet
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>>539702778
>my enemy has abilities as powerful and impactful as mine NO NO NO SAVE ME CA REEEEE
You guys are fucking faggots, I swear to god. Coming back from AOW, and Endless has opened my eyes.
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>>539702778
>Siege map is a literal rats nest with nightmarish path finding + Warp lightning wall towers facing every direction
The Book of Groodges itself can't contain how much I hate Skaven.
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>>539701973
>No one enjoys have skaven spawn in on their artillery
I unironically enjoy it IN MODERATION. It makes me have to play way more defensively and keep a constant close eye on my most vulnerable units. I have to fight Skaven differently than just about any other faction, which is fun as long as it's not all I'm doing. Fighting Skaven as Zhao in Cathay is fun, because there's plenty of other things to fight. Fighting Skaven endlessly isn't fun but as a one-off faction they're great. Skaven and Greenskins when Waaagh is active are my favorite two factions to fight because of how unique the battles are.

>Doomrocket
This is probably the worst of the three things you mentioned, but it's also limited to just one faction in the entire game so you should know to watch for it when you're fighting Ikit, it's not like you don't know it's going to happen.
Also, how are you letting cavalry get hit by this? You KNOW he's going to use it, and your cav are fast enough to avoid it.

>Dreadquake mortar
Chorfs have to build these in their province capitals, you can break them with hero actions. Actually I wish there were more buildings that had big impacts on battles like this, it makes heroes actually useful for a change.
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>>539702778
I fucking hate their warp lightning spam.
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>>539701973
>>539702778
skaven spawns are not remotely on the same level as shit like dreadquakes
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>>539702778
thats why you only units that scream HOLA SOTEK, HOLA SOTEK and adjacent units
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>>539702928
I'm playing Kislev with 3units of winged lancers in my main stack
>>539702979
Sorry anon but the warp lightning spam skaven get access to is retarded and I will die on this hill, What's the counterplay when they have a unit that can spam that spell?
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>>539703121
Dreadquakes delete armies lol. And there is nothing you can do. You have to come in with Chaff when your facing Dawizharr, or say buhbye to your T5 shit.
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>>539703212
attack the unit. rat ai spellcasters just loiter around and iirc don't cast spells while engaged in combat.
>kislev faggot crying about anyone else
you shan't get more wisdom
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Can any mathematicians or witch doctors predict the possibility of Tides of Torment's release being delayed to November?
Thank you, in advance.
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>>539703119
>>539703212
>Oh no I have to change my tactics and avoid super-telegraphed spells!
>Walahi I am cooked!

>>539703121
>>539703334
>There is nothing you can do

This is embarrassing to read
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>>539703171
>skaven ambush and spawn
>it's a beastmen player
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>>539703393
No sooner than 2026
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>>539703447
defend the nukes you /v/ tier git gud faggot
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>>539703212
Counter skaven with Monstruous SEMs that cause terror. There, I figured out the game for you. Skaven have trash mass.
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A reminder that:
Tides of Torment is coming with:
Aislinn (High Elves)
Dechala (Slaanesh)
Sayl (Norsca)
Unconfirmed FLC Lord

Neferata has been 90% confirmed to be coming after Tides of Torment

Creative Assembly will be having a Total War showcase in December where they will reveal:
End Times expansion for Warhammer 3
Total War: Medieval 3
Total War: Warhammer 40K

Good things come to those who wait.
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>>539703447
Why the FUCK did you include me in that second one you bloody bastard
Anyways wasting a ton of agent money to attack it is pointless when you can just move your army up in a spaced formation, wait for the circle to appear, then move that unit
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>>539703572
You dont get it. You are supposed to start a 45 second timer every time you start a battle with Ikit claw and be ready to instantly move the unit thats going to be nuked. Its easy. I love micro managing bullshit in the game I play to watch my dudes bash into the other dudes.
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>>539703572
Easy. They deal 500 damage and only one single faction in the entire game use them, so just bring single entities.
Shit you don't even need to be late-game for this, play as the TRVE KING and curbstomp Ikit with your ghost heroes. You can beat Ikit as Ungrim by like, turn 5.
Or just bring fast moving units and avoid the super slow nukes.

>>539703857
It's not instant the nukes are slow as shit, cavalry and even some infatry can easily avoid them, and they do nothing to SEs.
And yes, if you're fighting Ikit expect nukes.
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>>539703818
>Why the FUCK did you include me in that second one you bloody bastard
Because you were complaining about a super easily beaten and honestly fairly fun mechanic (Dreadquake mortars)
More factions should have buildings that do things like that
>Anyways wasting a ton of agent money to attack it is pointless when you can just move your army up in a spaced formation, wait for the circle to appear, then move that unit
Yes but these old arthritic grandmothers in /twg/ can't click that fast, please understand
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>>539704047
>bro just handicap yourself against tons of other factions with an all sem army also fuck you if you have no sems or they're all high tier
about what i expected from a /v/ poster
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>>539704243
>Yes but these old arthritic grandmothers in /twg/ can't click that fast, please understand
I can. I just don't want to.
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>>539703447
>Oh no I have to change my tactics and avoid super-telegraphed spells!
>Warp lightning
>Super telegraphed
argue in good faith or not at all you anus licker.
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>>539704348
All SEM armies are not a handicap lmao
And you should be actively recruiting armies designed to counter whatever faction you're struggling with the most, that's just basic game sense
And again it's 500 damage per model, you don't even need to go to SEMs for that, most chariots will survive that with only a third of their HP gone

>>539705072
It'll take a bite out of most infantry sure but it's unironically a skill issue if any of your cav get hit by that
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>>539705338
Stop having fun. Drop some dreadquake mortars on this guy.
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>>539705207
they are against multiple factions. i know that you've probably been trained by dark souls to respond to poor balancing complaints with g-git gud but it doesn't work here. next you'll be defending all the soc stuff pre-nerf or skulltaker pre-nerf
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>>539705207
I'm not arguing about it hitting cavalry you fucking moron I'm arguing about how Skaven can spam that spell. Its basically one of the most cost efficient spells in the game and has a retarded small cooldown so that 'bite' out of most infantry is happening constantly through the battle and the only counterplay is getting the nigger engineer to break or kill it because the second it stops routing that rat nigger is gonna go back to spamming it.
It's a fucking dumbass spell in the context of the AI being able to spam it immediately when it's off CD.
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>>539703857
As a WE main I love run-and-gun archers which makes fighting vs skaven easy. It's hard to go back to regular archers that stand still while shooting.
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>>539705526
people don't seem to realize that beatable =/= good game design
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>>539705856
So kill the caster, ez
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>>539705526
>>539705856
>>539705947
You babies complaining about everything you have to adapt to in any way are why we keep getting shitty overtuned factions in the first place
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>>539706129
no we keep getting overtuned factions because faggots like you keep defending them
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>>539702778
I don't mind any of this fighting but Skaven is just so frantic because out of their 40 units they have like 5 gatling guns which constantly route and come back to the battle and if I miss those fuckers shooting for like 5 seconds one of my SEMs is just dead.
Add to that they damn near always have like 10+ settlements lategame so you spend 20 turns playing the same fucking frantic battle over and over again.
I guess it's thematic but it gets tiring.
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>>539706339
AI Skaven and AI chorfs aren't overtuned, they have clear and easily exploitable weaknesses
If you want to map paint without ever adapting in any way play a pardox game
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>>539706627
The issue is how army abilities make battles more annoying which promotes more auto-resolve map painting instead of engaging with the battle side of the game. The overtuned army abilities make the game MORE like a paradox game.
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>>539706627
>they have clear and easily exploitable weaknesses
so did kislev right after soc but they still needed nerfs because they were overtuned you absolute faggot. like i said, your fromsoft defense force arguments won't work here
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1 Katarin
6 Armoured Kossars
13 Kossars
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1 Katarin
1 Me
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>>539707376
Consecutively, yes
All at once, no
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>>539707056
>The overtuned army abilities make the game MORE like a paradox game.
No it doesn't lmao
Paradox map games don't have army abilities, shit like EU4, Stellaris or CK3 is always the exact same sorts of units formed into the exact same armies to beat everything with zero thought

>>539707153
What the fuck are you sperging on about with fromsoft, nobody mentioned them except you
Also nothing in SoC's launch had easily exploitable weaknesses, Changeling literally cannot lose
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>>539705338
Anon von Crassusberg...
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tomb kings are overpowered
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>>539707727
... in opposite land, unlike regular land where they are balanced
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>Legend confirmed Total War: Harry Potter is next
Magic chads we won
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if ikit only gets one nuke and always uses it in the first battle you fight against him what's stopping you from detaching a hero from your army and using it to initiate the first fight against him so he wastes the rocket on your hero?
>but that's cheating
I bet you fags only have problems with dodging it in the first place because you're corner camping so hard there's no room to dodge into.
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Legend teased that a big announcement was coming in November.
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>>539708108
you can't initiate the fight with a hero dumbass
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>>539708108
Heroes have to be in an army to fight, but you could do this with a lord
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>>539708204
damn rome 2 really did a number on this series
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>>539708379
yeah heroes being able to be lords is such a good idea damn tw has fallen.......................totally not a retard that can't admit they don't know what they're talking about
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>>539707601
Army Abilities lead to auto-resolving over manual battles because when I pull up to a chorf army with 3 different global nuke abilities I already know I will do worse than auto-resolve so I skip the battle. Auto-resolve is supposed to be strictly worse than manual battles but in this case its strictly better. Bad game design that you are defending as depth.
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>>539708379
Rome 2 was the peak of historical Total War... and thus, the peak of Total War.
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>>539708609
>Rome 2 was the peak of historical Total War
With DeI this is unironically true alongside Shogun 2
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When do most people finish their campaigns doing if they're winning in Total War Warhammer 3?
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>>539709101
Auto resolving their 70th settlement.
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>>539709101
I finish my campaigns whenever I have to fight the Skaven or Chaos Dwarfs
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>>539708108
he never uses it on SEs for me
I usually just use a cav unit to make him nuke himself
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>>539709101
I unironically just take screenshots :)
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>>539709101
When it becomes too monotonous due to victory being a forgone conclusion since the AI cannot reasonably fight you anymore.
Or when I actually fuck up and get overwhelmed like my last campaign where I had the mod that lets AI WoC confed every other Chaos faction and Norscan all at once. I was playing as Kislev and forgot about it and was taking it slow...
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Which high elf is the MOST anti chaos - not just in lore but in function, in game. I feel like dropping the donut bullshit and settling Norsca etc.
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>>539710312
Probably Alarielle.
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>>539710461
Too late playing Norse Dwarfs ala Kraka Drak because I realised I just described the new Helf LL...by turn 20 every single WoC and Norsca faction will be under Archaon's banner and I will be dug in with a melee>ranged dwarf hold in the north.

I am going to have fun sending dwarves to die in glory, killing the chaos shits.
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>>539710312
Doesn't aleaf have green climate for frozen? If so possibly him.
>shadow walkers for kiting and shutting down melee
>-1 global recruit time for faster replenishment and reducing chaos attrition taken on a multi-turn scale
>hand of the shadow crown for bonking big scary gayos LLs
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>>539710312
Imrik would be best, A Leaf would be second best, Alarielle would be third best
Imrik treats mountains as suitable climate, Alarielle and Leaf treat wasteland as suitable climate. All Helves treat Frozen as suitable. Norsca is mostly Frozen and Mountains, with a bit of Wasteland
Imrik and A Leaf spawn outside of the donut, so you can avoid it completely

>>539710835
They all do
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>>539710895
Imrik is also too far away. though shadow warriors would be good I thought his bonuses were focused anti delf?
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Will Aislinn be able to win the 1v1 against Karl Franz?
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>playing races who c*nstr*ct b*ildings
AAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHA NO HORN HAVIN ASS RAA ROOO BABY
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>>539711291
Imrik is actually really close because of the Chaos Dwarf sea lane. With the sea lane he's as close or closer than Aleaf
Shadow Warriors would be decently effective against Norscan infantry I think, they'd probably struggle against some fast infantry blenders like berserkers and skin wolves though. The bigger issue for Aleaf would be all the useless mountain settlements, Norsca is like 1/3rd mountains. He'd be able to take Hellpit though, which Imrik wouldn't benefit from at all
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>beastshitter talking smack
What even are beastmen """"achievements""""?
>Khazrak failed to destroy Middenheim
>Morghur failed to destroy Athel Loren
>Gorthor failed to destroy fucking HOCHLAND
What the fuck do they even, besides shitting in the woods and being Chaos redshirts?
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>>539710895
>they all do
Asur = Agarthans confirmed
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>>539712081
But that's good. There should be more minor/annoyance factions. Wouldn't make much sense for beastggers to be some huge force somehow. I wonder if savage orcs are similar to this in lore, my greenskin lore understanding sucks.
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40k leaks inbound
>Factions are SM, CSM, Eldar and Orks
>IG is FLC like Brets and coming close after launch (this faction will receive NUMEROUS DLC, so they want no barrier of entry there)
>Game is more about gear and less about RPG stuff
>Stat lines are now gear lines
>You can create your onw OC character for each faction and make him whatever HQ type you want
>Legendary lords do have unique gear OP though
>Game will feature a new online live campaign, it'll be used to promote new DLC and FLC
>For example you'll get a system defense event during IGs release.
>This mode also takes into account other players movements, so each faction will have a live war depending on how things go
>Offline campaign with random outcomes is still a thing
>NEW. FUCKING. ENGINE. (Med3 also gets it)
Some Med3 stuff
>Back to complex campaign and diplomacy
>battle formations are back and more varied than ever
>Naval battles are in
>gets new engine treatment
Last but not least... they say the end always comes, time makes sure of it...
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>>539712081
Why don't you go """inside""" and think about it with your little books AHAHAHAHAHAHHA
ILL FUCKING KILL YOU AND DESTROY THE DISGUSTING B*ILDING YOU SQUAT IN NO HORN AND IT WILL BE THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY GODDAMN LIFE BABY WOOO LET'S FUCKING GO CHAOS FAYOSH
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>>539712457
Hmmmm...
Nope, nothing's gonna happen
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>>539712457
Sir, we are going to need a source.
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>>539712457
Thats bullshit but I believe it
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>>539712457
>Live service Total War
Ew.
Good thing this is fake.
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>>539712785
That's literally what warhammer already is anon.
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>>539712948
Not with TCAL's rate of production. More like a life-support service game.
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>>539712214
That's like I like about Beastmemes, it's fun playing a faction that doesn't get many lore wins and destroying big ass empires in your campaign. It helps that the mechanics simplify the gameplay to pretty much just manual battles and beastmeme units are super fun to use.
Lore of the Wild is fun too, I like to summon a Cygor and use the army ability that buffs the shit out of a unit but kills it later and have it go to town. It's definitely on the weaker end of lores but it complements the roster nicely.
I do think the Cygor model might be one of the ugliest in the game thoughbeitsoever.
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>>539713135
Yeah, that's the end of the live service.
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Would Medieval 3 actually be a good game? For 2025+ standards I mean.
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>>539712473
Impressive beastanon, you have truly embrace beatmaxxing and brainletmaxxing. Maybe you will become a minotaur one day.
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>>539713350
If the "leak" above has any truth to it, it would.
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>>539711583
bro, your herdstone buildings?
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>>539713609
What if minotaurs had contact damage to friendlies on charge? Could be cool.
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>>539713956
/twg/ would complain and then autoresolve
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>>539714038
Sad but true. They're fantastic units and good fun (assuming you're a fellow manualGOD). They remind me of the minotaurs in AoM, which are also amusing and fun to use, nice display with their ability to launch people. Minotaurs of Khorne in particular, some of my favourite monstrous infantry. Minotaurs of Khorne (shields) when.
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>>539713350
Only if they lean into the most racist anti PC style imaginable. Everyone and everything should be highly offensive in every direction all at once. Muslim lords should be mocking the Christians and how they will take their wives into their harems, Spanish should be calling them less than dogshit and talking about how they will rip and tear in the name of God. The English should be shitting on everyone else in the isles but be especially anti French and vice versa. The ERE should be accusing the Vatican of being heathen degenerates and both accuse the other of buggering little boys and being in league with demons.

EVERY FUCKING STEROTYPE AND NO FUCKING FILTER ALONG WITH GLORIOUS CHARGES, HEROIC LAST STANDS AND THE CITY/FORTIFICATIONS TO SUPPORT THEM. CALLS TO HOLY CRUSADE IN THE NAME OF GOD WITH NO IRONY OR DOWNPLAYED. A GENUINE HOLY ACT AND FUCKING WITH ONE SHOULD MAKE YOU THE ENEMY OF ALL CHRISTENDOM Unless you bribe your way out of it or threaten Rome successfuly.CHRISTIAN SCHISM CIVIL AND INTERNATIONAL WARS. SAME WITH MUSLIMS. POGROMS AND THE CHOICE TO KILL OR EXILE NON CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM/PAGAN POPULATIONS AND NO FUCKING TOOL TIP TO EXPLAIN TO YOU ITS A 'BAD' THING. THE CHOICE TO ENTER INTO FULL SCALE RELIGIOUS, CULTURAL AND RACIAL PERSECUTION AS STATE POLICY.

It will never happen and at best we will get a broader scope thrones of britannia with but through a screen of 'modern' UK government approved, political ideology.
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>>539712785
i believe it
companies still think the live service bubble hasn’t popped
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>>539714316
Total War: Team Fortress when?
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>>539713350
It could easily be a good game but nothing how CA has handled their franchises in the last 10 years inspires any confidence whatsoever.

If you're making history-inspired strategy wargames centered around melee combat and map-painting then you literally can't go wrong with setting it during Antiquity or the Medieval period.

Somehow they managed to completely fucking mangle antiquity with Rome 2 and every historical title since then has been fucking awful. I have 0 confidence.
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>>539714316
it could happen, Pharaoh has some decent racism in it with battle taunts and in-game art
>but they are all brown so its ok
its literally the same thing regardless of who the cultures are
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>>539537623
Bretonnian squires you say?
Miao says they're finger lickin' good...
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>>539713956
Beastmen should have rampage, as well as some units charging without orders. I think the latter used to exist in TW (?) but I havent noticed it much lately, so if it still is, its way too limited.
I get in mp you cant have it, but in singleplayer Beastmen should be borderline uncontrollable in battle, except when beastlords and brayshamans are near to rein them in.
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>click on beastman
>GAYOS OOOOAAA
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>click on beastman
>they shit
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>>539712457
even if it is the most dogshit aggressively monetized live service game you just know 40kfags will lap that shit up
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>beastmen
get with the times its beastfolx
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>dark elves
get with the times its elves of colors
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15 Missile Strength
3 Base
12 Armour-piercing
2 shots per volley
Tier 1 unit

Guess who
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>>539714316
based
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>>539717491
blessed peasant bowmen
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>>539717491
DRVCHII
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Why is CA like this
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>>539718746
40k and Alien Isolation 2 aint gonna make themselves bucko
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>>539717970
>dookie don't trade with empire to get some Sharts (Scoped)
dookiebros please...imagine what could be
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Literally the best part of any Chaos campaign is that you are natural allies with the other Chaos factions. Chaos factions make for the best heckin' allies!
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>>539715080
Let me RP as the unnaturally intelligent Brayshaman/Beastlord/Doombull who manages to whip my based retards into a competent fighting force. Thank you.
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>>539714387
Live service can always be done, but it must be done well, which no one can do, either due to lack of resources or because of skill issue. Closest we got is helldivers 2 but even then it's still flawed
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>>539721902
Isn't that referenced in the immortal empires trailer?
While the order guys are still deliberating on allying, all the chaos guys are just naturally working together?
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>>539721902
The only times I've been able to work with an allied AI against another enemy are when I play chaos factions.
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>>539702778
>routes
>routes
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>>539709101
turn 20 or so
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That's it I'm fucking done with sieges. I'm downloading a cheat to remove them. At least I'm more likely to play out the fucking field fights.
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>>539702778
In my experience units that route through yours get slaughtered. Also I've only ever seen that happen in siege battles. Also I'm pretty sure if you rout a unit 3 or 4 times they break permanently, which is super easy to do with Skaven if you have terror causing units
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>>539717491
the tier 1 unit is shit though its the tier 2 one thats busted because the low range is no longer a detriment thanks to shields
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>>539726283
Based. Join the club. I recommend a settlement buff cheat of some sort too.
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Why can't I just upgrade units that get shield variants into using their shield? Its fucking retarded that I have to separately recruit saurus with shields instead of just being able to upgrade them. Are saurus so retarded they can't just use a shield without being born with the knowledge of how to use one?
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>Can raise them anywhere
>One of them can delete multiple entire high tier infantry units
>Can give them vanguard deployment
>Luthor can make raising them basically free
>Sometimes they just randomly come back after death
Bloated corpses are the strongest tier 1 unit in the game
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>>539727010
Cheats fix this.
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>>539727010
>Are saurus so retarded they can't just use a shield without being born with the knowledge of how to use one?
Unironically yes, Saurus come out of the spawning pools knowing only what they need to know to fight in the unit they were designed to fight in. They're almost emotionless bio-androids created for a single purpose.
They can learn more, but it takes decades to centuries.
Lizardmanni as a whole are so stuck in the roles they're created with that in the RPG a Lizardman pc can't change the class they're randomly assigned at level 1.
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>>539727320
They do, but I feel this is just a situation that CA could fix with a slight update or something since the tech is obviously there. Or maybe they don't know how to do it thanks to spaghetti code shit.
>>539727392
Its a shield even the fucking skinks know to raise the damn thing when arrows are coming their way.
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>>539727472
They weren't coded to use a shield during their spawning, the great plan says no shield, please understand.
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>>539727182
he cute
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>>539728117
lead pipes
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>>539728117
lead pipes and boomer parents
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why do flying units sometimes just start going extremely slow while chasing?
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>>539703171
HOLA SOTEK
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>>539703447
>>539704047
>Nuke apologetics
I would rather tolerate a legitimate furry on this general.
>It's not instant the nukes are slow as shit, cavalry and EVEN SOME infantry can easily avoid them
>implying anything that's not an SEM, is a possible instakill and anything else where you don't react in time is ALSO an instakill.

As a veteran of TWW who has over 5k hours: The primary target of nukes via AI isn't cav or SEM. it's ranged units, especially artillery.

How about ALL units can avoid them? How about you skaven/chorf subhumans DON'T delete my infantry just because your shame was low enough to play those factions? How about you move (you)r units in position to try to kill my units.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3176913893&searchtext=nuke+
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>>539728117
lead pipes, boomer parents, and jewish control
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>>539728117
no government gibs for anxiety like yuropoors
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I mentioned this before but all gunpowder weapons should ignore shields just like artillery. this is how it worked in every other tw so the fact that it doesn't in soihammer can only be one of many oversights.
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>>539727010
pls understand ca managed to add the unit upgrade system to chaos as a dlc which should have been the baseline for all factions to start with
mods fix this
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>>539728556
I just double checked to see if they had buffed it or something because you're all crying about it so much and no, it's actually nerfed. It's not a 500 damage explosion anymore, it's 216. ANY monster infantry unit in the fucking ENTIRE GAME can tank the nuke now. That's not even enough damage to kill Ogre Bulls.

And it takes SEVEN FUCKING SECONDS to even START THE FUCKING ANIMATION.
HOW?
HOW ARE YOU STRUGGLING WITH THIS?!
DWARF INFANTRY CAN DODGE THIS!!!

>But muh artillery
Don't bring artillery against Ikit Claw, NONE of the adjacent LLs need artillery to beat him, any LL farther than that can tailor their army to beat him. And don't give me that shit about "skaven/chorf subhumans", nobody plays MP campaigns.

And as for the Chorf mortar, it's a FUCKING BUILDING JUST DAMAGE THE BUILDING YOU MASSIVE SHITTER GOD DAMN.
If you've played 5K hours and you're still this bad just give up. Play something else. Fuck, that's just humiliating at that point.
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>>539731259
>nerfed the nuke
how could they do this to us ratbros
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>>539731259
it still shits on infantry pushing herohammer even harder
my main problem with it is there being no notification so if you are microing something somewhere else you just lose a unit
a notification would made it fair
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>>539731646
There's a giant blue circle
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>>539731714
that doesnt help at all if you are across the battlefield microing something else like the warp lightning spam or the clanrats obstructing your ranged
menace below clanstone and nuke indicators all look the same to me as well
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>>539731956
Skill issue
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>>539732013
im sure its easy to see all your units if you just sit in a box with your thumb up your ass and wait for him to cast it
I like to actually play the game though
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for me its undivided chaos lords spamming rors in every fucking army
no thank you
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>>539537423
I imagine this is their dynamic
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>>539727010
If CA supposed to do that the DLC will be further delayed, not to mention additional bugs that will show up.
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>>539731259
>bu-buh it was dis numbah but now it's dis numbah
Oh wow the nuke apologist is a spreadsheet warrior. Color me surprised. 7 seconds is not enough time. Especially considering things like blast radius, terrain color, target unit size, pathing, relative movement speed, (just because your guys say they move 35ms doesn't necessarily mean they move 35ms) and my personal favorite: the time it takes to equip/unequip equipment.

You factored all those in your little equation sonny? You wouldn't have to if you played the game.

>Don't bring artillery against Ikit Claw
Fuck you. I'm not catering my armies because two snowflake factions have a gamebreaking mechanic. I'm just going to remove the gamebreaking mechanic. I'm bringing around a special hero (which I may or may not have depending on the faction I play) dedicated to do nothing but roll the dice on a hero action to damage a building (Which might remove the nuke? Iv'e never tried it but, damaging a building doesn't necessarily remove it's effects)

And then there's this shit >>539731714
What if the camera isn't in view of the silent blue circle? What if the white snowy terrain hides said blue circle? What if my brightness isn't right so I actually have to change my game settings just to see the blue circle on the white backdrop.

This shit has happened to me hundreds of times retard, Iv'e heard all the excuses before. Now fuck off with your shit bait.
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>>539733873
>*I'm NOT bringing around a special hero
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Don't get angry about nukes. Get happy about cool campaign map mods

pic related is mordhiem
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>>539733873
>it was dis numbah but now it's dis numbah
It was a number that would delete almost any unit instantly now it's survivable for basically anything other than infantry and cavalry (it's still survivable for those if you just micro at all)

>Blah blah move speed
Dwarf warriors can dodge it from a complete stop.

>I'm not catering my armies
Okay then stop bitching. You were given ways to counter these mechanics and you refuse to use them.

>all the excuses
There's no excuses needed, you're just bad at video games.
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>drop artillery as soon as battle starts
>start running with the crew
>nuke will target crew instead of guns
>crew can just dodge nuke since you are expecting it and already on the move
>zero losses
explain why this won't work
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>>539734746
It would work.
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>>539734543
>It was a number that would delete almost any unit instantly now it's survivable for basically anything other than infantry and cavalry (it's still survivable for those if you just micro at all)
Not good enough. It should be survivable for all. No free unit kills faggot.

>Dwarf warriors can dodge it from a complete stop.
Not in all situations.

>Okay then stop bitching. You were given ways to counter these mechanics and you refuse to use them.
I don't think you know what the word "counter" means.

>>all the "facts" and "factors" that I choose to ignore and call excuses because I'm a ratfag/chorfnigger and I don't want my pet faction criticized.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3176913893&searchtext=nuke+

last (you) masturbaitor

>>539734746
I actually tried this and I'll tell you why: Your artillery crew, according to the ai, is a melee unit until it grabs it's artillery. What that means is it's not going to necessarily target your crew since now it's a melee unit. It will either target something else, or it will wait until you equip again.

Your best bet with nukes is to hold back your entire army in the flattest plain of land you can find, space them out so everything is in view and when it targets your artillery, pause the game (ZA WARDO) and move everything away. It's boring, annoying, and gay, but it works.

oh and don't bring reinforcements because then it might not target your army at all.
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>>539736561
Do you also complain when you fight cavalry armies without anti-large?
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>>539736561
You just aren't good at this game lol. Nukes do no more damage than an overcharged winds spell.
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>>539737707
you mean just winds of death
and vamps cant aim
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The perfidious ratfags striking again this thread
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539736686
Do you also start a new campaign when the autoresolve indicates "valiant defeat"?

>>539737707
Spells have spellcasters to target, they cost magic, they have ranges. Nukes have no such restrictions.
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>>539738724
Explain to me how changing your army to counter nukes is different from changing your army to counter large
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i would never turn them off but nukes just feel dumb
>alright ikit fire off your japmelter 3000 so I can dodge
>okay now we can play the game
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>>539739389
One is changing units to counter other units, the other is changing units to counter faction exclusive abilities. Cav and giants are still units, If I take them out with my anti-large I make that army weaker. I might actually win the battle. Dodging nukes does not put a chip in the opposing army. It's a free shot on their part. Changing the composition to account for an ability, when there is a fully capable army that is still standing there is just foolish in the long term.

Say I take your advice and change all my army to SEM and cav. Do you honestly think Skaven or chorfs don't have an answer to that? That they don't have canons or halberds? It would be easier to fight them with a nice balanced army, but by catering to an ability you have created a glaring weakness that the still standing army can easily exploit. All because you were trying to avoid having entire units wiped.
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>>539742175
Chorfs do not have an effective SEM-killing artillery, no. That's one of their weaknesses.
And Skaven lose hard to terror which is something a lot of single entities have. Also, Skaven love to swarm with infantry, which is easily countered by SEMs + magic.
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>>539743145
>Chorfs do not have an effective SEM-killing artillery, no. That's one of their weaknesses.

The hell they don't. Quit lying to me boy. and they wouldn't need one anyway. They would just need some well protected ranged or anything anti-large. Killing an SEM is not a hard thing to do. Especially with numerical advantage

>And Skaven lose hard to terror which is something a lot of single entities have. Also, Skaven love to swarm with infantry, which is easily countered by SEMs + magic

Shitstacks do. Late game stacks have anti-large stormvermin, lightning cannons, and rat ogres, and rattling guns, they love those. You are attacking them with either slow easily shootable SEM's or cav that can be blocked and shot at with the same weaponry.

See they have all these options that they can adapt to while you are forcing yourself to fit this round peg into a square hole because they have an ability that you must must conform your entire army to. There is a reason why spamming is bad. Do you wanna end up like the chucklefuck who spams pirates and takes record casualties?
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>>539744384
>Bolt throwers
PPPPFFFFFFTTTT
I'm not even going to read the rest lmao
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>>539743145
>Chorfs do not have an effective SEM-killing artillery
hello? +500 bonus vs large?
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>>539744456
Then just give up and fuck off. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about or haven't thought about why having a nuclear weapon in a medieval style warfare game is a bad idea. You just want to rage bait or be a contrarian for (you)'s

I'll take this as your concession.
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>>539745182
Kek you're so full of shit, bolt throwers aren't good against anything in any faction
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>>539745519
Go ahead and use it on a SEM and report back
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>>539745519
(In case it's not clear, 800 AP damage once every 12 seconds is not effective against SEMs at all)
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>>539745519
>>539745153
Ignore the NA shizo . He's just going to deny reality to suit his delusional needs.
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>>539745883
Okay faggot prove me wrong, show me a Deathshrieker killing a SEM in any reasonable amount of time
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>>539745757
thats better than most factions teebeeh
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>killing basically any large entity in the game with less than half of your ammo is bad
what's next you're going to say doom divers are bad against single entities?
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>>539745949
NO FAGGOT I proved you wrong multiple times before. You just pull out some other stupid ass claim and I have to disprove that. You're a never ending fountain of retard.
This argument started because of nukes remember? You lost that so you backtracked to this shit and now I have to argue the next goalpost moved argument is stupid too.

You're stupid. You lost I'm done.
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>>539746147
It's mediocre at best
It certainly isn't a counter to SEMs like >>539742175 was suggesting
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>>539746406
Kek where have you proved me wrong even once? The nukes was an argument you lost, not me. You even gave your own way to avoid them destroying artillery with the dismount artillery thing
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someone make a new thread before these faggots choke on each other's dicks.
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just pooped my pants
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