Funny criminal man edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>539490598
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>>539554192
First for Paradox!!
Mina would have been better as a werewolf.
>>539554439Your mom would have been better off with an abortion
>>539554626Unfortunately for you: I'm making her lack of foresight your problem.
>>539554439Kinda looks like a rat, I'd like a rat too
>>539554484mina LARP lol
>>539554282>drifter standing right behind you completely lost>no shooting, no melee, no abilities>jumps up so the turret keeps shooting himimpressive, you really showed us the power of paradox
>>539554282amazing clip, for the paige that is
vgh.... kino....
>>539555112I will play vyper once they remodel her and change the voice
>rank?>what rank?>post rank>what is your rank?>post the match id at least>RANK RANK RANK RANK????????All you need to know is that I am skilled in this game
how can i check my winrate with a character
>>539555301dm yoshi on the forums
>>539555268arcanistbro btw
>>539554192A classic
>>539554192>Thanks, I didn't finish biting my fingernail
>>539554192>>539555541kek
>>539555215Lol this one's good
A bit of freezeframe cinema.
Seven mains must feel so good when no one on the enemy buys knockdown
>>539554484>>539554514>>539555215>>539555541>>539555591Jej
>>539555347actual mina larp
>>539555591haze would definitely say this
>>539555213being a coomer isn't a personnality
>>539556154Yes it is.
Mokrill seems weak
>>539556316the character is supposed to be a bullet sponge, it better be weak
>>539556316imagine if the beefy rat that can shrink his hitbox and stun/disarm you for 8 million years was also capable of doing high damage
Im addicted to playing as Drifter
>>539555347imagining Mina pinching one off right now
>>539556316you just build for ultmaxxing, kill anyone that you catch as long as there's anyone else near you and then sacrifice yourself to prevent your retarded carry from dying alone in the jungle at 35 min markalso gigafocus on THEIR carrythis is how i win when i play them
MOMODON'T BACK DOWN
>>539556775a big dry vampire shit
>turn on rapidtrigger and snaptap>can instantly tell who's aimbotting nowThis is impressive...Also the number of people with "sub-10ms reaction times" is also impressive...
>>539557187>rapidtrigger>snaptap?????
>>539557373Hall effect keyboard features.Rapidtrigger releases the keypress instantly when you let up on the key rather than at a set actuation point and snaptap allows keys to override each other.The end result is strafing left/right is essentially instant and throws off most people's aim.
>>539557575I should note that snaptap is banned in CS.
>>539557575how do these cheats help you tell that others are cheaters
>Troubador? I'm gonna rip the bark right offa you boy
The black wοman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWΟ different characters.
>>539557843Because people who can keep up with flicker-strafing like that are clearly aimbotting.The absolute limit of human reaction time is 75ms.This allows you to change direction in increments under 10ms (to the limit of ping which is usually ~20 for me).Anyone who keeps up with that and lands their hits consistently is aimbotting.
>>539558159game needs more cuties like paige or mina
>>539558216>Paige>Mina>Vindi>NuGeist>NuWraith>NuIvyWaifuchads are eating good in Deadlock.
>>539558170doesn't movement in this game lean too heavily on momentum for INSTANT direction changes?
>>539558370Nope.Shit like helldivers 2? Sure.This one is vety snappy though.
>>539558334>>NuWraithit's a little bit better but eh I don't like her design, gameplay wise she's fun though.
>>539558334>VindiWhat about nuVindi?
>>539558580Wait, Vindi changed?
this isn't holliday's final voice right? sounds too young and nothing like a sheriff
>gun PaigeDies repeatedly and contributes nothing.>spirit PaigeUseful and often farms well.>support PaigeAbsolute madwoman who literally carries her team.
If Lash is the alpha male of Deadlock who do you think he had sex with?
>>539558768She cute though
>>539559041Literally everyone.
>>539558968paige ass or boobs though?
>>539558968this but in the opposite order
>>539559228Paige thighs
>>539559041Not Vyper
>>539559228Paige EVERYTHING.
Ideas to make Trophy Collector viable:>remove the bonus stats from Veil Walker (+175 Bonus Health & +10 Spirit Power) and give it to Trophy Collector instead.OR>Make Trophy Collector a Tier 2 vitality item, making it 1600. To balance, either make the stacks cap at 18-20, or reduce the effect of each stack.There, done. Hire me Valve.
>>539557843>cheatsLiterally evety Eternus player is using a HE keyboard, anon.
Lategame Billy is fun until you find yourself 1v1ing lategame Victor
>>539559737All top players are cheating. Many such cases.
>>539557752Only because of how Counter-Strike's archaic movement system works. Characters basically glide in that game and don't immediately stop when you let go of a movement key.
>>539559821buy spirit snatch and steal your spirit res back, assert dominance.
>Get to ritualist>Matchmaking becomes unbelievably shit
>>539559935He heals so much though and his rez is the real clincher...Even when I go full grug on him with bottle HE JUST SUCKS ME OFF AND I DIE or it takes too long to kill him and I get ganked to death.Sad
>>539560057Should have stayed in Initiate, anon.
>>539559718nothing will fix the item, its too expensive for the soul generation and games are too fast. even in a perfect scenario where you farm a ton of assists as soon as you buy it it's bad.
>>539559718just make farming troopers give a small fraction of a stack so stacking it is at least somewhat reliable, on top of implementing a cap.
Why does the base layout favor the attacker more than the defender?
>>539560102I have no trouble with Victor as Abrams. Have you tried heavy meleeing? They usually don't parry.
>>539560708This one did
>>539559718its good on mo and krill :D
>>539560997>BO AND GRILL:DDDDwhat da fugg
>>539558580Downgrade. Was cuter before.
>>539561132You should be locked up and studied
>>539559718Literally all you need to do is make it a 1600 item. It's not complicated. The item is good but just too expensive for what stats it gives you immediately, an item that wants you to be in a lot of fights shouldn't make you farm up after lane to get it just for it to not give you much immediately.
>>539559228Titties and thighs
Whenever I play Lash I feel useless because my team never fights around me but if I look for fights proactively I just fall behind
>>539561209Faggot detected.Her glowing hair and eyes look retarded. Put her in dota or revert the changes. Outfit is fine though.
>>539561132>putin-faced feetdicta was better
>>539559105really like this image
>>539561581post her old face
>>539561485>Faggot detectedUh bro you're supposed to point the sensor facing AWAY from youHer glowing hair and eyes look hawt like she's blue mountain dew flavor I just wanna put her in a cup and drink her
>>539561581>Putin out of nowhereOk bro. You're definitely mentally stable.
Redpill me on Cold Front, I feel like every chungus build has it but it doesn't feel /that/ goodAm i retard?
>>539561795It does okay damageIt's AOEIt slows the enemy gamers so they cant escape, are easier to hit, and can't move away from your abilitiesGAWDLIKE ITEM
Kelvin is the best character in the game.If you want to play gun you can.If you want to play support you can.If you want to play spirit damage dealer you can.>>539554192Was this Mcginnis? If so why did they change her??? She looks better here
>>539561795>Unavoidable free damage that also does CC>and is AoE
>>539562014McGinnis looks like a brisket devouring hog no matter what so not like it matters
>>539558768>>539559105Are the voice actors confirmed yet? because she sounds exactly like femV
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!
warden is the most dishonest hero by far it isnt close.
We need a Bosnian hero
>"yeah I'm the stoic sherriff just here to solve cases">launches womanlet body 50 ft in the air and throws donkey kong barrels at you
>>539558768>sounds too young and nothing like a sheriffIsn't that the whole point?She's young and inexperienced, she only had to sheriff for a small town until The Troubadour did a killing spree on her town and that inexperience caused her to be scarred by it and wanting revenge.
>>539562803She's like late 30s early 40s, she even mentions a first marriage when upgrading the barrels sometimes
>>539562751She's here to literally murder some random criminal she hates>>539562803Been married more than once
The dumbest part about Holliday is she's a cowboy sheriff from fucking Illinois
>>539562906>>539562983Newsflash anons but you can marry someone at 16 and divorce them at 17, specially almost 100 years ago in fucking Illinois.She even references the fact that the first marriage was unstable which should tell you what happened, hell one of those husbands could've gotten killed by the troubadour so she might not even need a divorce.She doesn't sound nor look anywhere near late 30s or early 40s, being married doesn't tell you anything.
>>539563247Would be pretty funny if the troubador just keeps killing her husbands
>>539558652yes she is cuter now>>539561132how so
>>539563343Wait he is named the troubadour.We might be onto something here
I don't get people who play these games and just get extremely angry. Especially if you're a "high level" player. This metro guy is just non-stop bitching the second anything goes slightly wrong
>>539562803>youngshe has been married like 7 times
we need an italian mafioso
>>539562363this motion needs to be adopted
>>539563676Sorry, here's your second yakuza mob boss
>>539563571Ego mostly but sometimes they're right and that fuels the former
>>539563247Fair, but looking at her background:There are people who spent their whole lives dreaming about moving to New York. Holliday isn't one of those people. Content with being a Sheriff in a small town, Holliday enjoyed a career where the only time she had to use her gun was when trick shooting at the county fair...then the murders started.Grisly and inhumane; the bodies were found with their ribcages ripped open... their innards picked apart as if by birds. Holliday tracked down the killer, a travelling folk musician that the media dubbed "The Troubadour", but when she confronted him he exploded into a murder of crows and flew away.That was 6 months ago, and while the murders in central Illinois have stopped, Holliday's investigation has not. She believes that The Troubadour is travelling to New York, and when she finds him she's going to kill that evil son of a bitch.It sounds like inexperienced could also be she was in bumfuck nowhereville where the only crimes committed were cow tipping
>yeah you want to test a squeashy champ? Here's a spamming doorman player
>>539563385Bitch looks like a night elf. Glowing eyes and hair are not cute unless it's a pure fantasy world like WoW.Graphically the old face didn't look good. But all they had to do was keep the general style whilst improving her graphically. That and the current outfit would've looked way better.
>lategame>teammates want to bait rejuv for some reason even though the enemy comp is a lot better at contesting it>whatever I guess>midboss roars>enemy team coming in>my entire team without communicating to me, all immediately leave to defend walker(????)>die, enemy takes rejuv and wins the gameok then
>>539564272in these situations I pause and force them to explain what we are doing (usually nothing)
>>539563247>dude the most obvious explanation is she got married at 16
>>539564203>unless it's a pure fantasy world like WoWShe's literally a fucking GHOST SURROUNDED BY MYTHICAL CREATURES
>>539564376UOHHHHHHH
>>539564467Deadlock is not fantasy you fucking retard. It's modern and mostly takes inspiration from horror. Ghosts are very generic and don't belong in any genre.
>we're back to ten minutes between postsour glory was short lived.
>>539563825A lot of the teammate/enemy lines reference her father/a legacy to uphold, which gives more even more weight to her being young.https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/conversations/261a7c5d7ac0169c4b5b5187cdbf4c4c/https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/conversations/0caaeb04fb99043e3d1f0b45a6d0f683/>>539564376Pray tell, WHAT is the most obvious explanation?>She looks young, sounds young and marrying very young as a woman (all the way down to 13ish years old) was the standard not very long ago, her first marriage is confirmed to be unstable and there was also a mass killer on her hometown and she's looking for personal revenge, it's very, very likely and supported by her lore that she could've easily gone through 2-3 husbands by her mid 20s, maybe even younger>She also has a shadow and legacy to live up to, with feelings of inadequacy Or>OH ACTUALLY THE MODEL, VOICELINES AND VOICE ARE COMPLETELY WRONG AND ALSO SHE HAS GONE THROUGH LIKE A BILLION HUSBANDS AND SHE'S 45 YEARS OLDI'm not saying she's literally like 18, but mid 20s feel like the perfect spot where her inexperience and legacy to live up to match her voice and model.
>>539562081Well I'm an architect so she's perfect.
>>539565524It's low fantasy
>>539565565she comes off as late 20's/early 30's to me
>>539562014>Was this Mcginnis? If so why did they change her??? She looks better hereShe didn't actually look like that
>Almost win the game>Russian goes to split push and gets caught and killed>Lose the gameSuch is life in Alchemist
>>539563778>sometimes they're right and that fuels the formergot a good example of this from watching his stream now. Team makes a terrible mid play but he goes absolute fucking nigger rage mode over it https://streamable.com/kjsixe
>>539554439Why is drifter a vampire and not a werewolf? It would make more sense, unless they plan another hero as werewolf.
>>539565945Heesh, that's a hard watch
>>539563571I don't know why I get angry honestly, it just happens. It's not a rational reaction
>>539565945>open stream>rainbow seven modHe's a massive fagg->His team hard forcing mid boss with 2 people dead on his team against a fucking infernus wraith haze with ult ups>He has the highest souls and carrying the teamCompletely fucking validated and his entire team needs to be hanged and flayed.
>>539565945this guy should unironically kill himself
>>539559718its already viable on some characters who get a lot of assists/kills. making it a tier 2 would make it too accessible to nearly every character
>>539566082>>539566287I see you guys blogposting about your team doing this kind of throw plays every 20 minutes here and everyone circlejerks over those retards but when a streamer tells them the truth now it's....le bad?
>>539565945I remember tuning in to him a year ago, watching him dangerously farm a T2 camp on a rooftop near his lane after his guardian was destroyed with no vision on the enemies. I thought>man this guy has no gamesense and is gonna get gankedAnd lo and behold, 2 enemy heroes came and blew him up while he passive-aggressively said his team wasn't good. He's an annoying faggot.
>>539566450Are you retarded
>>539560057i started in emmisary and the games were good but had a bad loss streak one weekend. got put down in ritualist 5/6 and it actually the worst games ive ever played.
>>539566221him screaming into his mic and insulting his teammates is just deranged behavior. Like that anon said it's an ego thing, even if he's completely right that taking mid there was terrible, the insane rage is just unnecessary, especially all the screaming about ranks. There is no reason to get this upset. It's really obnoxious when your team makes horrible plays like this but raging over it only sheds years of your life when it's solo queue for an alpha for a video game that isn't even publicly advertised yet, that doesn't even have a seperate casual/ranked mode yet.
>>539554006
i came back to deadlock recently; am i just really bad, or is billy just a bit harder to pick up?
>>539566354It's only good on Dynamo. Mo & Krill need too many T3 items to make room for it, Paradox needs to build gun items to not become ranged creep, and Lash can't afford the slots when he wants Majestic Leap, Stamina Mastery/Extra Charge, and whatever Spirit and Utility items he needs.
>>539566723Billy is a trap pick because he wants you to be aggressive but if you're inexperienced with his limits you'll end up being TOO aggressive and getting assraped with him or just turning into a glorified kamikaze fighter every brool
>>539566723Billy is one of the most ignorant brain off characters in the game
>>539566723wdym man you carried and was rich af
>>539566723billy is really hard to play well because it's very easy to punish you but you can't play safe and be effective
>>539566756you dont buy it every game like a monkey. you buy it to snowball your lead
Am I crazy or is Midboss a giantic Honeypot?
>>539567035hahahahahhaa
>>539567197Yes they do, the contemporary usage of "incel" completely disproves this
>>539567153maybe but I think urn is the bigger scam>OOOOOOH 500 SOULS, TIME TO DROP EVERYTHING, IGNORE MY LANE, FEED AND DIE OVER ITevery time
>>539566450>typing some generic grievances on an anonymous board is the same as audibly chimping out to an entire audienceyou should kill yourself too
>>539567504>Just a urn full of souls here!
>>539559718>>539567101>you dont buy it every game like a monkeyI have a friend that rushes rebuttal and trophy collector every single game, on every single character no matter what, and then endlessly coin flips brools over and over and over again, if there's no brool he will force it even when we're extremely behind.As a result he either goes like 12/3/10 or 2/18/8, absolutely no in between, he's addicted to the high of pulling stuff out of his ass when everything goes perfectly.Absolute mental illness and he's probably gonna read this, stop, seek help.
>>539567163he keeps rolfstomping you because you are a shitlow, of course he's braindead good against mouthbreathers that don't know how to punish him
>>539565945https://streamable.com/qebwotholy fucking shit. This match is insane. >Bitches about team making a mid call when only one enemy is dead>Does the exact same thing almost 10 minutes later and team loses rejuv entirely
>get utterly shitstomped by momo>he's like 20-30k above our highest player>everytime I try to go for a pick or collapse on someone he's there>torment pulse+scourge+escalating exposure+scorn deletes me in 5 seconds flat if I go in and I have to go in as calico>feel the blackest hate in my heart>next game, he's on my team>swap to his lane>watch him play, he's actually good, confidently trading 1v2 while I'm afk>don't have it into me to actually feed and it would only give him the entire wave xp to snowball>build split short support slide shiv and fuck around the whole game>he still carries and coordinates the team to a win which is surprising since there's like 2 more problem cases besides meI still think most mohammed players are gormless niggers though but this guy was ok
>>539567939If you are reading this you're based
buy decaybuy decaybuy decaybuy decaybuy decaybuy decaybuy decay
>>539568007STOP CRITICIZING THE ETERNUS CHUDDYSOTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
>>539565945>why are you listening the oracles don't listen to the oracles instead of methere's an antiquity history meme there but I'm well read enough for it
>>539568017>confidently trading 1v2of course he is. the nigger is unkillable and heals like 300 in laning phase with a button press on a 8 second cooldown
I love being a Mina player I'm so happy to be alive for the time that I can be a Mina player I'm so happy rn
>>539567653>45 minutes into match>pushing enemy base and trying to finish>THE SPIRIT URN IS WAITING TO BE CLAIMED>mfw full-build players split off to go do the urn that provides 0 benefit at this point in the game>push fails because team is split apart>throw game
>>539568270but lets focus, mina is the real problem here because she can eat creeps for 40 health each if she last hits them with her 1
>>539568371I love carting Mina's after using knockdown on themHer healthpool is so small they just blow up with a couple o' bellsAhhhhhh so good
I miss the old item slot system because I never got stuck with a full spirit team.
>>539568270truly an urf character
hey I finally decided to try Deadlock after having it rot in my steam library for over a yearWhy do I need to pick three heroes to queue up? Why can't I pick new heroes as one of those three? How long are heroes "new"? I literally can't find three heroes I want to play if I can't pickone of the new ones. wtf Gabe
>>539568017>>539568270Yeah you literally can't deal with a mo 1v2 if he has the smallest of leads, he's impossible to catch, you can't fucking shoot him and heals out of the ass yet they refuse to nerf him for some reason.It definitely feels like some characters are the devs pet project, Mirage and Shiv get assassinated whenever they're even close to being good but the most braindead overbearing characters are allowed to run rampant.
>>539568052i would rather buy metal skin against 0 gun heroes than decay
>>539568270I don't really understand why he gets the best heal in the game when other characters who have similar abilities don't. Like seriously the range on it is insane including vertically. If you're in the side lane bridges he can go under you and hit you to heal and then lets not forget burrow which is the easiest baby mode escape in the game that really has no counter other than pre-emptive slowing hex and JUST FOR FUN it also knocks you up when he comes out.
>>539563571>The one anon who implies he doesn't get angry playing competitive games lul
>>539568492shes the 2nd strongest laner imo behind mo but they both are leagues ahead the rest of the characters. Mo desperately need a spirt scaling nuke to his kit. mystic burst and quicksilver should not allow his borrow to nuke for 300+ damage in lane
>>539568852Notice his wording "extremely" you subhuman apeGo work a blue collar job and die of lung cancer
>>539561694I'm not the one defending Vind's old mug
>>539564203>like a night elfthats hot>Glowing eyes and hair are not cutethey are specially her hair, looks flufflier and thats top cute
>>539568598>I literally can't find three heroes I want to play if I can't pickone of the new ones. wtf Gabeif you set priority picks on the ones you wanna play and only have one regular pick, odds are you'll get your priority pick
>>539568903maybe we should just have all the heroes do no damage and we can just fight the creeps all game.
>>539568052there's like 2 character you buy decay for and they both suck right now so theres no point
>>539568935You're angry already little tranny.
>>539555213>new modelUnderstandable>Change voiceGet the fuck outta here, she’s one of the best VAs on the cast
>>539565565>ACTUALLY THE MODELwell it's still not the final version of the model
>>539565565>Ivyfag defaulting to child marriage under no pressure whatsoever
>>539569139Keep defending acting like a monkey over a video game, I bet you squeal real nice when you lose a team fight
>>539569110Right, is there any stats site for seeing hero popularity? So I can get an idea of how contested these characters will be if I want to play only them?
>>539565945Damn what a classy mentally stable gentleman, I'm sure his Eternus rank is also legit and not boosted whatsoever
https://streamable.com/irnjkr
Give me a good beginner's guide
>>539560878'hwa my beautiful wife...
>>539566221>knows its a bad play>goes anyways and dies like a retardno, just as retarded as his team
>>539568052why would you waste an active slot on an item that's mogged by healbane and toxic bullets?
>>539569110>>539569345Nevermind, I looked in the OP for the stats site.>Every hero I like is dogwater tierIt's over before it even begun.
>>539565565she was a scifi cowboy in neon prime and got retconned into the granddaughter of doc holliday, who died in 1887the game takes place in 1949still hasn't received a new model since then
>>539568007it's not the worst mid call but ivy should 100% be there with the stun
>>539564203Why would the world setting affect how attractive a character is?
>>539569345deadlocker has hero pick rates iirc, but even if you're picking a hotly contested character you get them most of the time. my only double priority is mina who has like an 80% pickrate or something and i only get pocket (my only single priority) maybe 15% of the time. my two other no-priority picks i have yet to be given in a match
>>539563571High learning curve games always have a community that's 50% the chillest guys out there and 50% manchildren
>>539569560Based still a padawan compared to mason.
>>539569592Please only use Deadlock related images
>>539569560can someone give this man a beating in minecraft
>>539569560Why would he be so mad about winning, shouldn't he be proud of carrying this much
>Get memed into buying suppressor vs Infernus>literally does dick diddly against him
>>539569560>https://streamable.com/irnjkrI hope this is a bit, otherwise this guy needs meds
>>539570160>MY TEAMMATES DIDN'T DO EVERYTHING I TOLD THEM TO OR PLAYED EXACTLY HOW I WANTED!!!!! THEY NEED TO BE BAAAAANNEEEEDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!
>>539570331buy rusted barrel instead
>>539570043Lol get bent retard.
>>539569870NTA but the tone of the setting must affect the character design, otherwise heroes would feel out of place. Idk why is he mad about Vindicta tho when Billy, Mina and Paige are much worse in this regard.
>>539570415Forgot the best part is that he's specifically mad that his teammates are the same rank as him, this is important because it's a big hit to your ego that you brag about being the highest rank in the game but then play with people who you deem bad players who are in your exact same rank
>>539570438I got suppressor because they also had a drifter in lane
>lane against mina>buy rusted barrel, she can't trigger love bites and gets bulled out of lane instantly with 500 healthWTF ICEFROG PLEASE NERF THIS HERO!!!
>>539570528There's no need to get aggressive, we're all deadlockers hereExcept the Mina players
>>539569589Deathy, without a hint of irony. His guides on macro specifically, ignore hero guides. Also there's a lot of movement guides and map movement examples on yt, most are fundamentally the same.
The entire soul economy is basically based around pairs of 800 souls...so why the fuck are your actual levels/boons staggered to be between that?
>>539569589for what? game as a whole? heroes? movement?
>>539570954To level the powerspikes
>starting to recognize the players in metro's gamestime to do the funny and queue into himI fondly remember one time we were on the same lane and we went 0-5 and 0-6 in like 8 minutes, the only time I've heard him stay quiet and humble
>>539570954Slower snowball effect I assume, it’d be a little fucked if someone got their key piece of gear AND their best upgrade at the same time
>>539567939no I also go 20/20/13, have a name foreshadowing my plan, and that you have a very small weiner
>>539571139I ran into him all the time when EU and NA were all on the same servers. the guy lost his shit over everything and he was one-tricking wraith when she just murdered everything easily
>yeah so Deadlock is harder than Dota because...>>NO, Dota is harder, much more items, objectives, heroes, learning curve etc>right, Dota must be harder than Deadlock...>>NO, there's no movement in Dota, no proper shooting mechanic, no...So which way deadtards?
>>539571339It’s whatevers funniest to say at the given moment
>>539571339Two games can require different skillsets, anon
BALANCE PATCH TODAY???
when's new heroes?
>>539567939>he's addicted to the high of pulling stuff out of his ass when everything goes perfectlyThat’s exactly how someone should play games
>>539571480tomorrow
>>539571339fortnite is actually the deepest game
who should i play to get hella kills? I don't think I've had more than a dozen kills in a game so far
>>539571841Shiv is designed to kill steal
>>539571841Right now? Infernus
>>539571019The basics, obviously>>539570845I'll check it out
Best character to lose games without throwing?
>>539572415Victor is B at best now.Drifter is A at best.This is clearly from before the nerfs.
>>539572560viscous, calico, holliday, paige
>>539572560Mirage
I'm so tired and sad even though I'm alive for Mina :[
so why does paradox get two ultimates?
>>539573198cause she is cool
>>539573198she has 0 though
>>539572415>victor Si know what elo you are
what should i do as a seeker player? rn im just trying to play every hero at least once
Remember when healing reduction resistance was a thing?
>>539573461stick with three and get really good with at least two. preferably one tank and one carry so you're slightly less team reliant.
>>539573517wasn't that just on healing booster? that item feels pretty useless now
>>539573571i don't want to be a mainer right off the bat
>>539571339Dota has more complicated macro with a much more fleshed out map with stuff like jungle camps, camp stacking, bounty runes, river runes, wisdom shit, team outpost, tormentor....etc. Also the entire concept of warding. The way gold+XP is handled, laning phase is more complicated because last hit/denies and how lane aggro works not to mention safe/offlane dynamic and vision mechanics. Some characters are also far more complicated because of having to handle multiple units. But at a more general micro level, deadlock is more complicated and takes more skill. I also think right now it's item system is better and more complex. Dota itemization is EXTREMELY simple and there are really only about 50 items that are actually important and like 2/3rd of those have deadlock equivalents. You can only have 6 items active in your inventory at a time and most of the match you're just farming up for 2-3 core items not counting any consumables or obviously components that build into your core item.
>>539572415what the fuck is this? Skill or pube amount this shit doesn’t make sense regardless
>Infernus shouldn't reset afterburn duration with just 1 stray bullet>HURR JUST USE DEBUFF REMOVER>Use Debuff remover>he reprocs it anyways because of mass fire rateGod these people are retarded
>>539574023Just slowing hex xd
>>539554006>Doorman and Paradox ult a guy at the same time>doesn’t go to the hotel and takes max damage by default>still gets pulled>still teleports to same position after six secondsChrist its maximum ganking
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DIE OUT OF LINE OF SIGHT WAAAAHHHHH!!!!!I love infernus seethe. How DARE the m1 carry hurt you with his m1.
if I buy an item to 'counter' you then you should be useless for the next 15 minutes
>>539573517i fucking hate healing reduction as a mechanic in mobasit's impossible to balancehealing characters are always either giga useless, giga OP or (the most common) giga OP in shitter ranks and troll tier in higher ranks
>>539571339Dota is harder to play because it makes my eyes glaze over and I'd rather play something else.
>>539572415>that entire S row
>get new hero>paired with absolute lobotomites>they dont push>they dont farm>they dont take objectivesi dont understand what game these people are playing, its like they dont existim winning 1v2 and almost 1v3 midgame but they just stand around the map and wait for creepcamps to respawn its insane
>>539574757They should let subway surfers play on the right to keep you in
>get disarm and slowing hex to stop infernus from being ungankable and unkillable for 3 seconds>UHHHHHH YOU WANT THESE TO BE STRONGER? UMMMMMM YOU DON'T WANT ME TO PLAY HMMMMMMMM?
Reminder that a hero with a 60 meter hook on a 10 second cooldown will never be bad as long as you can use your microphone
>>539574820Playing Doorman feels like this all the time
Jesus vampiric burst is way better than I thought it would be. Feels like this is a must have on any gun carry, wonder if it will get nerfed. I don't see it as often as I probably should. I made the mistake of thinking burst wasn't that amazing since it's just a defensive item but the fire rate + the ammo just lets you burst people down SO quickly and the lifesteal basically exists to let you get away with taking very little damage.
>>539575465strong, but countered by hard CC
>>539575465My theory of why that is, is that lifesteal is weak the moment your enemies buy antiheal and so people prefer to spend in the highest damage.
>>539574820People have been uploading troll builds on the build browser to fuck with people so new players are extra useless.
>>539575427Had a game the other day where our bebop was going bomb build and did LAUGHABLY low damage, like 16k damage while everyone else had 25+ but he was the most important member on the team because he was very consistently landing hooks and throwing them into the team
why do I get yanked from full ass around building corners by Billy ult?
Almost every hero has an early game spike. However when I think of Victor I don't see it. There doesn't seem to be one at all.
>>539575775because he doesnt. hes not a character until he has like 34k
>>539569589https://youtu.be/l3BxwvYoTj8
>>539575775He is like a mid to end game carry
>>539575836He has half the health of Mo&Krill but he has spikes quite early and play potential. Why is that?
>>539575775he's not that bad. his laning is actually pretty stable thanks to his strong gun and building around his 2 for hp regen. mid-game he can stabilize as a big meat tank. then he turns on and becomes unkillable stinktor
>>539575990>his laning is actually pretty stable
>>539575595The point I was getting at is that I thought vampiric was bad when I was thinking about it as a defensive item but when I switched to looking at an offensive item, I realized it's really strong, especially with it's relatively low cooldown for an active item
why does seven hate kelvin so much
>>539576067his gun is good with more range than either mo or abrams. his 1 burst can definitely take out people who don't respect him.
holy shit this bitch is so fucking broken and all the waifufags really tried to downplay her because they suck ass at her
>>539575776UGUUUU HE'S GONNA TURN ON THE LOVENSE UGHHEUUEHH
>>539575980because victors ult lets him create space by wasting the enemy's time/ultimates so he isn't allowed to be strong
>>539575716That's the point of Bebop. When draft comes and people start making use of hero roles, Bebop will be a permaban, as hook heroes tend to be. He'll be a hard or soft support, mostly buying utility items.
>>539576193his gun had mediocre damage at best, slow fire/travel rate, and random bullet spread, his 1 burst happens once in a fight maybe and require excessive damage to gain back, his aura does more damage to himself than his opponent. The only thing he can do in lane is regen and heal back a few hp points with stim. Victor is unironically the worst laner in the entire game
>>539576454wrong
>>539576279How does his ultimate create space? I don't think it does. The AoE never hits anyone and he only spawns with half of his health. He's very easy to kill twice early on so if he creates space it's not a spike early and later it's easy to counter too. Doesn't make sense.
what are the core billy items? it seems like the obvious stuff is lifestrike/spirit snatch and then just a bunch of ammo/fire rate but I dunno if theres anything more nuanced
>>539576549>no refuteill take the W
>>539576124He's probably Edrick, one of Kelvin's old colleagues that presumably got shafted by him before Kelvin went to the Arctic and got his team (and himself) killed
laning against mina as bebop is an awful experience
>>539576556you have to spend an extra 15 seconds to kill him
>>539576618take this with you *whips it out*
I'll miss Neon Prime Seven when they finally get around to updating his aesthetic
>>539576994to be fair you can just mod it back in
>>539576994he already has been
>>539576235no shit, thats why she has the highest winrate in the game. doesn't take a genius to look at statistics and see she is broken
Why play Lash when Holiday is just better, more mobile lash with better damage?
>>539574475Keep downplaying him apologist.he doesn't hurt you with m1he hurts you with the bullshit spirit damage he didn't earn
>>539577263Dude what?
>>539577263because I don't play w*men
>>539576279>>539576716I implore you to check the spectatable matches every now and then and choose Victor as the hero. Almost always without fail the side Victor is on is losing in push or farm.
>>539576253
>have to afk at beginning of match because of a work call>tell my team>takes like ~5 min>get back, every lane has gotten shit on somehow>vindicta calls me a fag for leaving>i roll the enemy team anyways despite starting 8k behindsay youre sorry
>>539575651Actual larp
>>539555541In-character Bepop post
>>539577581>only characters i like playing are f*maleits fucking over for me i might as well just start the transition
>>539554192More ingame LARP
>>539577724>vyperi bet they did most of the work and you were just spamming your gun too finish off an enemyseen one to many vipers like that
>i'm gonna play one quick game before bed!>get this.
>>539577970yeah thats why i had most damage
>>539556712Did they make Drifter a Vampire because they genuinely wanted both Mina and Drifter to be Vamps or did they make Drifter a vampire so that people can't make Warwick comparisons. Cause why the fuck do we got Drac/Stien and no Werewolf.
what is the cure for this disorder
>>539577991Didn't censor Warden, the alchemical flask is now rapidly approaching your location
>>539578130he's got a censor built in
>>539578081
>>539577991>over farmed mina>can't finish the game instantly with her
Guess the hero by their skill upgrade alone and test your knowledge. Reply with an upgrade of your own.
I couldn't help but notice that Mina is in every single game and she usually gets very fed, on either team. It sucks because she's hard to lane against, as she has a hard hitting passive and the best escape in the game. I wish Valve would do something about her already, but I imagine they don't want to upset the majority of the playerbase right now.
>>539578401Forgot image. Shit.
I think last night I had a dream I was trying to run down a Mina who just had infinite Ws
>>539578613victor 1
>>539578401Hard one or maybe easy one.
I wanna try Lash, or Viper, which one is easier to learn and play?
>>539578065I doubt they know anything at all about warwick or any other leaguebab hero
>>539578674Ding ding ding. Little too easy I guess.
>>539575775I don't know why this guy has such a high rate of retards in my games, he's not even easy elo
>>539578858lash presses all his buttons and either dies or fucks off until his cooldowns come back upyou have to aim as vyper
>>539578452Yeah Mina always has a soullead everygame unless they are a lobotomized player.
>>539578806dynamo ult
>>539578806Aren't there multiple heroes with this?
>>539578081Paige players are incurable
paige's big fat fucking tits
>>539578862>Acting like devs aren't constantly looking at other similar games for inspiration in design.Drifter is Nocturne + Kha'zik + Warwick in terms of gameplay.
>>539579279>my friend was a mcginnis spammer>now he is a paige player>was also a LoL player who spammed SorakaWhat mental illness is this because he also is really mechanically skilled and could farm people on haze if he wanted too.
>>539579381ult is nightstalker. 1 and 2 have nothing to do with either of the leaguebab characters unless you consider a cone-attack a league ripoff
>>539579517chastity cage mindset
>>539575775dunno why people sleep on pain battery so much
>>539561332Day 3
Is rebuttal on abrams an item that makes sense?
>>539579974if someone on the enemy team is slap-happy, sure, why not
>>539579381The only "rip off" I can think of is that Mo and Kill Niggers has Warwick's ult.
>>539579974against billy it is pretty good. some people are playing melee viscous as well
>>539580085It's just Pudge's ult, every moba has one
>>539580085its pudge you fucking BITCH
>Hook some McGinnis from across the map into my team>They somehow fail to kill her>Enough time passes that the enemy team shows up to help her>We die and loseI guess it was my bad.
>>539580247yoshi put down the gun
Has there ever been a bigger drop in pick rate in the history of this game? They went too far....... I bet if you included his post nerf wins only his win rate would be absolute shit tier right about now.
>>539580297>holliday lassos someone>runs away
so why dont they just nerf Seven? He's been OP for 95% fo this game's existence
>>539576994See >>539577190They'll 100% be keeping almost every part of his design and enhancing them. It'll be the Abrams remodel again.
>>539580462Or bounces away so nobody can aim and they get away. God I fucking hate Holliday.
>>539580462Holliday really needs to take notes from Momo, he understands the assignment
>>539580494Yoshi's favorite
>>539580425all new heroes start with nearly 100% pick rate
>>539580425He's still strong, he just requires farm.
>>539577917Ironically, Lash flirts with Geist and Holliday in match start dialog.
>>539580494>>539580598You guys forget how shit he was before shop updateAnd the fact that even souls seven is ASS
is pocket the only character with more depth than>left click goodor>do the combo your kit doesor>spam CC lmaofeels like #2 but you don't just mindlessly do it unlike with bebop, billy, yamato
>>539580770His WR was never below 50% shut the fuck up
>>539580876Pocket is just a character that does his combo though.
>>539580876high tier billys don't need to spam their combos, he's unironically stronger when he's doing his gun/melee and then finishes off or disrupts for teammate ult/synergy
>>539580106>tfw a combination of poor reaction time and Wi-Fi internet makes parrying almost impossibleI sometimes even see the parry effect appear, but then the melee lands anyway, and the effect doesn't show up in the replay.
>>539580770>And the fact that even souls seven is ASSwhat a dumb point to make when his kit is intentionally designed to be good at farminghe's literally built to be ahead
>>539579517Cowardice
>>539554006People are absolutely braindead following the builds without thinking about counters, this is infuriating. Last game only me and infernus had anti heal items to fight overfed Victor. We lost because they kept chasing him while he just outhealed all the dmg.
>Viscous baffled in all chat when I capacitor his cube every fight Guess people don't know what this item does
>>539581181Over half the playerbase is at the lowest rank anon, they literally just copy the recommended build every game without putting any thought into it
>>539578667What stand is this?
>>539580598He said 'seven' not 'infernus'
>>539580462I always try to bring them under turret in this game and I get the rude reminder that turns suck ass in this game
>>539579381He is literally Dota2 Spectre you dumb nigger
How do I stop falling behind on farm constantlyI only really just follow recommended guides, I don't think I rush the items that improve farming quickly enough. For example, played an Infernus game and made Ricochet one of my later pickups which I regret, bought that and started AM-battlefury farming like crazyAlso, what heroes are good at ricing, building for gun, then being a lategame carry? Only Wraith satisfies this itch from what I've tried.
>>539581181Victor is the reason I can't play any spirit characters because I feel like it's an auto loss if I'm not buying crippling headshot and enough gun items to melt him.
>>539580725He's masking his true self
>>539581807He needs to be bob up and down on Bebop
>>539581665>literallynot even figuratively Faggot
>>539581372What's up with that anyway? How are like 60% of the players in initiate
>>539582293Isn't that pretty standard in a lot of games, unless it's really really easy to climb like with shields or something
>>539576994the current version is already a translated neon prime design, he'll probably be samebut i think they might change his seesaw dash animation, since it was more fitting of a ninja or something
>>539559718>increase the total stacks to 25>reduce thee stats per stack to stay the same pre-change>now you can gain a stack by doing the killing blow to x amount of creeps/neutralsyoshi needs to decide the X number based on average creeps killed of all matches
>>539582428Ranks shouldn't really work like that if they're an actual skill distribution, there's no way everyone in Initiate 1 is exactly the same skill level
>>539582598Maybe, but also isn't everybody auto ranked? So if you even own the beta you're just plooped there
I learnt today that Kelvin's ult over the rejuvinator completely freezes it. He didn't know either. Just new player things yaknow?
>>539582668That's what obscurus should be for, for people the system doesn't have a good idea of what rank they are yet
>>539582428Most games have a bell curve distribution, this game had it for some time. but now it's extremely bottom heavy, most people are stuck in the lowest rank for some reason
fucking nerf billy already
>>539582907nerf what
>>539582902Isn't there also some pretty heavy deterioration? Have a friend in Alchemist and he dropped to Initiate because he stopped playing for a few days
>>539583079>>539582902I'm new so still learning and shitting it up, but most losses be it my team or the other is whoever has the leaver.
>>539583079a few days is enough for you to start decaying? wow i should stop giving a shit about my rank then lol
why does shiv even wanna kill monsters whats his M.O.
>tfw terrible at this game but my oponents are somehow even worse.
I'm so glad this game has voice so I can flame my retarded teammates who make bad plays. I hope they uninstall.
>>539583525Clean his name, start anew.
>>539583525It's fun.
>tried the fat wacky Black Mesa man>expected some boring Enigma/healer supportcuckHoly shit this stomp is so fucking goodThis gun slaps
>>539583887>This gun slapsYeah I'll have no idea how an Anon couldn't win with Dynamo he is retarded strong in lane.
>>539583525needs the bounty money so he can buy more pomade and elvis impersonator outfits
>>539581063>I sometimes even see the parry effect appear, but then the melee lands anyway, and the effect doesn't show up in the replay.this is because this game uses the same "you are rewarded for being brazillian" netcode as every other valve game. on the guy who's punching screen he already hit you, this is what also leads to stupid shit like dash jumping away and getting hit by the punch anyway because the server didn't update your hitbox position when juan.gonzalez.2011 pressed Q
>>539583930how much of a master debater would lash be
First ever game as Mina. I won. My lane was rough since I had Dynamo as partner and enemy was Haze + Sinclair. I noticed I couldn't get many bites on them since both stayed so far away and both just poked at me mostly and my Dynamo partner never ulted or did any harass. She's still stupid strong and very easy imo to utilize but the enemy Drifter made it hard for me to do much in some matches. Stupid strong. Will keep playing.
>>539583525>>539583840>supposedly hunts monsters for a living>has no special skills besides using serrated knives and a rinky dink shotgunYou'd think the dude would have an elephant gun or a gigantic axe or some shit, not run around with a pompadour
>>539585079>my Dynamo partner never ulted or did any harassyea, when you play new heroes the MM puts you with fresh install people who act like guns have limited ammo
It's legit impossible to lose a lane as Mina unless you fuck up insanely hard or your partner is a drooling ape that kills himself constantly, bitch has better sustain in lane than everyone else
it's good
>>539584303I pretty much exclusively play with other Russians, though. Most of us are concentrated in the same general area of the country, so I'm, not sure why I would be deprioritized like this.
>>539585402Nah mina is easily beatable in lane
Buff Geist's chest, nao!
Alright smart fella, who is the WEAKEST laner?
what do I do with the ball of souls at my belt???
>>539585857VictorWithout his 1 his damage in lane is pathetic
>>539586009feed them to the enemy team.
>>539585857Wraith
>>539585857unfarmed haze
>>539586009you run into my base and give it to me
>>539585857victor
>>539586009Cramming
>>539586079You can drop unclaimed souls?
>>539586295yes
>>539585857dynamo as always
>stalker's mark is just the drifter throwing one his turds at someonegross
>>539586420bloody turds
>>539585857dynamo, ez
>>539586420Drifter has a strong sense of smell, makes sense he can track someone by throwing his poopoo on them.
I know it wouldn't be functional, but do you guys thing Victor has a big hog?
>>539587813His creator gave Victor a micropenis which is why Victor is so curious to meet the person who made him. Why go through all the effort to make a monster out of spare parts and give him a tiny penis? He must know why
Who is the most honest main?
>>539586374His stomp obliterates in lane once you add extended range
Hello, this is your Haze.
>>539585373I noticed Minas zoom is rather short. I do have increased FOV but damn is it hard to hit further targets without your nose glued to your screen.
>>539588007Ivy
>>539588007Holliday (me)
Good Mina build? Notice optionals. I'm quite bad with Mystic so I might skip it for others. Headshot booster also seems like a wasted item on her, no?
>>539588007viscous and it's not even close
>>539555213TRVE!
>>539588805I would personally get kinetic dash way earlier then you have it, the extra bullets and firerate are really good for landing love bites in lane and it boosts itself into the mystic burst threshold so you don't "need" more spirit power right away
Calico Bebop suicide bombing just wrecked my bussy
>>539585162he has that rage mechanic and that afterimage doesn't he?anyways all the baxter society member are getting aa rework and chamge in their lore in the future so don't think too hard about it
>>539583525>why does shiv even wanna kill monsters whats his M.O.He used to be a ruthless killer without direction, Grey Talon is the one who set him on the path to hunt monsters instead
>its a gun game>but all the guns feel dingy as fuck to shoot and do no dmghow will valve overcome this obstacle?
>>539589553Pick Drifter, the moment someone is alone you obliterate their testicles.
>>539585545assistchads rise up
>>539589553all the shotguns feel pretty good in this game
>>539589553skill issue, gun is easiest to play and carry with
>>539589960Mo has a terrible gun>b-but Not up for debate, we've decided this already
weird game
>>539588007Abrams
>>539589553It just loops back round to the original gun games - arena shooters with very high time to kill where an encounter with an enemy actually lasted more than 5 seconds and involved lots of movement and use of different weapons
>>539589321But why is he monkey coded?
>>539590323raised by monkeys
>>539585545Literally the only reason I can carry with doorman.
>>539588007There's only 2 "dishonest" characters in the game. Haze and Paradox, both because their entire playstyles are hitting a single ability and then spending the next 15 seconds in a situation where you're not allowed to fight back unless you have huge movement or hard CC
>>539565945>>539568007chances of him getting banned (if he wasn't already)? not by this game but i feel like the fag is one shitty infernus away from calling someone a nigger and telling them to kill themselves
>>539590174Is this what high ranking games look like? Everyones just too scared to fight and the game ends in 30m? No wonder there are so many smurfs.
>>539555213VA is top tier you zoomer cuck.
>>539590614Infernus is the most dishonest and it's not even particularly close
>just played against a good MinaUhm... what the heck, I'm so used to fighting ass mina players I wasn't expecting to get my shit rocked
Vyper being a goat fucking skank ruined her
>>539565945>2025>/dlg/ is STILL seething about metro somehow
>>539590798Erm what the sigma
>>539590910>Hes never rage fucked a person beforeYou wouldn't understand
>>539590614This but add Mo&Krill, he's the only character with multiple 10-0 match ups in lane and is literally retard proof.
>>539589841>>539590491all i have to do is fly over any team fight with my level 3 arctic beam, spread debuffs like a faggot in cali and get stacks for free. Extremely cozy item
>>539590910Dude why isn’t my grimy petty thief a pure angel
>>539590614>>539590779>>539591050Being overtuned is not the same as being dishonest.
am I just being enabled by retards or is alchemical fire pretty sweet on billy. gun damage, bullet resist, and your ult and multiple popups keep people standing in it. also gives him some wave clear/from downtown poking
>>539591163define dishonest
>>539588609I made this post
>>539591258alchemical fire is one of the best items in the game fr fr
>>539591264Sure thing.
>>539585545I use it on support Paige, get it early, stack up, rotate as fast as possible get more stacks and assists, say "Good Job" on every kill
>>539591258the real question is why people don't build it on warden along with echo shard flask for triple alchemical flask
>>539577258that's not seven, though.
>>539589049gotcha, but I do enjoy extra stamina upgraded. Bad to pick both?
I feel like Stamina Mastery is always the best choice instead of the two cheaper hybrid ones
>>539591264I define it as a character that can still fuck your games even if they are behinda 0-20 infernus is useless besides the occasional ult that may land here and there and even then he has to use some braim to set up his stun, not dishonesta 0-20 mo can still combo and or disarm you while tanking and it takes him 0 effort to do that, just press a button
>Mina the most picked hero in the game.>Not overpowered.
>>539591841dash is good for the ammo and fire ratesurge not so much because the buff duration is so short
my mouse arm goes numb whenever I play this game anyone else? I think im applying too much pressure or maybe its just the constant clicking
>>539592097surge can provide insane value on a few heroes
I'm a Paige and McGinnis main, the heck is this Paige build? I feel she's too fragile to be going for gun even if you invest in extra HP. In my experience, your biggest advantage is that the enemy doesn't know where you are when you cast your abilities, so camping rooftops is a good choice.
>>539592235name 1
>>539592410warden ult
>>539592170You might have your sensitivity too high. I tend to get that soreness when I have to stabilize my mouse or pen for long periods of time. Try lowering it and see if that helps you! My second guess is posture, try to find a different seating position that you may find comfortable.
>>539592368gun paige is shockingly effective since her projectiles pierce
>>539588007Dynamo
>fighting mina>she ults>scramble away>20 seconds pass>she ults again>20 seconds pass>she ults againwhat the cock is she doing
>>539592032pick rate is not indicative of power level you dunce.
>>539592097I dunno, 15% can make a huge difference sometimes, especially combined with Superior Duration
>>539592170you're being too tense while playing. stretch and shit when you die.
>try to follow new build guide>realize 30 minutes into the match that it sucksfuck lol sorry team
>>539592368She has a HUGE bullet hitbox and has the only base piercing shots which for other characters costs like 6400 to achieve. Also decent gun damageBasically you take advantage of like base fights where there is lots of creeps around to proc ricochet and split shot to spam tons of projectiles around, does a lot damage.
they should bring back yamato invulnerabilityher ult is so fucking bad now, the only thing its good for is a debuff-remover and dodging shit
>>539593371nothing of what you described is for what the purpose of Yam's ult is. It was always just meant to be a refresher that buffs your moves
>Laning phase>Rusfernus holds W into Doorman and Grey Talon>Rusfernus predictably dies>Gets mad at me for "not being aggressive enough">Does it again>And again>And againWhat is wrong with these people?
>>539593552I have no idea. people doing this shit on infernus makes even less sense since his mid-range is even stronger than flame dashing like a tard
here are your teamates, bro
>>539578065100000% what happened was that Joe Artist at Valve thought >"Man you know what would be a cool and original idea for a vampire? A smoothtalking cajun murderhobo. Don't think anyone's ever done that before!"Then John Boss walked in, slapped a rigid outline of Mina's concept on Joe's desk, and said "Make a sexy cute vampire bitch now">"But I already made a vampire""Okay it's an occult setting who cares there can be two vampires just make the dumb hot bitch and shutup">"Oh. Okay"I like Mina but she's so different from the rest of the designs that it's obvious she was made because "We need that type of character in the game to attract bigger audiences" instead of any stroke of inspiration from the artist.
>>539591427>>539591163is gray talon dishonest?
>>539593371when did the invincibility get changed? I just started playing a week ago and the description read that she’s invulnerable during the transformation
>>539593878his ultimate crossmapping a stun, an execute and a whole 2 second long cooldown is quite dishonest
>>539558768I hope it is. I fucking love her voice. I love how pissed off she sounds at everything.
>>539593878yes, but he is chief manygame so I will forgive it. nothing honest about infinity range, retardo damage, and vertical mobility.
>>539592698Interesting>>539593280I see. I don't tend to do well with aggro playstyles so my builds tend to be heals and survival oriented.
>>539593878Friendly predator missile inbound
>>539593862>We need that type of character in the game to attract bigger audiencesThey should make more characters like that.
>>539593991she's still invulnerable during the transformation, but back in the day her ult made her invincible for the entirety of the ult's duration
>>539593878>charged shot looks like it missed>hits you for full damage anyway I'm thinking yes.
>Empty a magazine into a orb floating right in front of me>Fucker denies it with a single shot from high ground one screen awayWorst feeling in the game
>>539593862drifter - gangrel sabbat membermina - toreador/ventrue sexy vampseems all pretty VTM inspired, especially mina's lore
>>539593991hes talking about when yamato gained immortality for the duration of the transformationshe used to just not die when at 0 hp which had a lot of interesting effects, like if she was at 0 hp all lifesteal against her would not work.
>>539594239>>539594189I see, thank you for the education, honorable elders. I will continue my training
>>539593878>stupid nuke that if it doesn't kill you stuns you>retarded arrows that can still hit you with the splash damage>charge shot that can still hit you even if you dodge itvery
>>539590614>>539588007>>539591264There are no honest or dishonest characters. There are honest and dishonest players. Dishonest players flock to whichever character is overtuned and slightly broken at that moment because they are desperate to grab an advantage any way they can. They are entirely without moral fibre
>>539593773
>>539582816i wouldn't be surprised if obscurus is literally just obscuring an actual MMR behind it, with the rank charts not factoring that in. i know in marvel rivals if you don't ever touch competitive you're still considered bottom of bronze (even if you have higher MMR) which is why most charts have a HUGE chunk of specifically bronze III
>>539594202>aim harder.
>>539594173Like I said, I like her. Shit like "The artist should have all the power!!!" leads to crap like Concord where it's obvious the designs are a dumpsterfire but no one from overhead stepped in and said "Wtf cut this shit out and draw some characters that actually look attractive".A healthy balance is good. Too much and you get shit like League where 90% of the roster look like they belong in a KPOP band.
We need an ice hero. No, not kelvin or some shit. Literally just a block of ice.
Ignoring infinite scaling abilities and items, which hero would be the absolute strongest with infinite souls to spend? Who is the hardest carry in Deadlock?
>>539593552Got confused, because I was an Infernus against Talon and Doorman, but I never rushed at them, tried to play back, still got chunked by their huge ass never miss abilities with 4 charges each. Definitely never blamed my team mate for not being aggressive.
>>539593773Im afraid Im going to have to message these people on Steam and let them know that you have exposed their match score with username attached on 4chan. Its quite a serious data protection breach
>>539594649kelvin (battleborn)
>>539594173Same. Waifus draw in, but playstyles keep you playing.
>>539594173>where’s my muscle mommy valve
>3/13 mina>2/11 pocket>40k souls gap while I am the only one positive (9/3) and most damage in the lobby (50k)It was fun shitting on the team even up to the very end, but this matchmaking is nowhere ready for release. I don’t even get mad at my shitter teammates anymore I just call the enemies niggers while they sperg out about reporting me
Every times I see Paige that actually play support role, it makes me want to thank them by sodomize their rectum.good girl.
>>539594784Doesn't McGinnis count as that? Altho for me she is more drinking buddy type of vibe.
>>539594493>Dishonest players flock to whichever character is overtuned and slightly broken at that moment because they are desperate to grab an advantage any way they can.what if i flock to the character i want to hold hands with and they just so happen to be overturned and sightly broken at that moment>>539594649if regice was in deadlock i'd play him
>>539591718>>539591841at least on mina specifically I like both kinetic AND stamina mastery. kinetic for the firerate and mastery because her bat teleport resets air actions multiple times so you can do 6 airdashes in a row.she also has higher then average stamina recovery so sometimes I even get arcane surge but thats defintiely way too many slots on movement even if having near infinite stamina is really fun
>>539594649>another hero that just gets raped by infernus
>>539594817Your welcome dude
>>539594646Cute Ivy
>>539585545.....at being bad
>>539593878yes, as stupid and overtuned as charge shot is, a low cooldown map wide nuke that stuns is already dishonest but it executing AFTER damage is the fucking stupidest shit ever
>>539573917dota has natural items, facet choices and talent tree choices for "macro", and dota has actual "micro" unlike the retarded league definition, I love deadlock but it has no hotd or manta equivalent that actually taxes skills.
>>539578065one of the most consistent of draculas powers is being able to turn into a wolf, gay furry werewolf fans stay losing
>>539595129you don't need mana as a skill tax because you can move in 3D space and just jump over the fucking skillshots instead of someone pressing Q and eating up 50% of the lane
Given that this game is going for the esthetics of 60s horror media. I hope they added some Alien with retro style ufo esthetics, or a cheesy self rightous obnoxious superhero that says no bad words.
Why do people have meltdowns over glass cannons doing actual damage, do people not understand the concept of a tradeoff?
>billy's free ammo on melee works on fucking sinners sacrifices but not lane creepsI get giving him literally infinte ammo in lane was probably too bullshit, but you think they'd include some text about what it does and doesn't work on
>>539594891she’s not really muscular, just stocky. I’m talking like the new marvel rivals chick tier
>>539593018Yes it is you fucking retard.
>>539595398Usually glass cannons have a specific range they work in but Talon is a character that works everywhere on the mapI do think hes more of an annoying pest than an actually good character though.
>>539595591Is there any retro horror media that has a muscular woman involved?
There are no werewolves in New Y-
>refresher full slow/cc doorman>i'm fucking krillnmoLET ME OUT OF THE FUCKING BARONESS YOU FUCK
>long range icon is a reference to a trip to the moonHOLYFUCKINGKINOINO
holy shit
i hate lash
>>539596412proportions look awful
i love lash
>>539595826He has a low hp pool and a shitty get out of jail free card being able to execute you with bird anywhere is fine due to that, it's also pretty easy to avoid considering how cramped most of the map is and that you can hear the SKREEE coming at you from pretty far away. Would rather try to dodge owl than getting low HP against Shiv and knowing I'm gonna have to leave the fight soon because he'll just autoaim execute me.
>>539596460when will they seriously gut this dishonest heroIt’s not even the damage, it’s the fucking airtime this nigger hero gets
>>539596460>t. bebop>>539596553>t. vyper
>>539596562its is easy to avoid. not because of the dumbshit you said but because in a pick/ban format hes banned every game
The reason infernus is dishonest is because he's a self-heal abusing M1 carry that relies LESS on aim the more items he accrues. It becomes increasingly easier to apply the burn as the game drags on, and the consequences of getting a burn proc on you become astronomically more punishing as well, which means he's double dipping in darkskinned dishonesty.
>>539596540yeah that's marvel rivals.
>>539596386Bros why did Vindicktor shoot the moon
>>539596617nigga slowing hex is right there and its cheap as shit
>>539595856my modded silent hill 2 playthrough with female pyramid head
>>539596702>It is avoidable, not because of what you said that's applicable in game rather in my draft power fantasy!I mean if draft drops I'd much rather ban someone relevant like Seven but you do you lil bro
>>539597074whatever you say
>drifter>doesn't drift??? Valve?
what the fuck is even the play against a haze/kelvin lane?haze any amount of poke gets healed by his stupid fucking snowballs, and any haze that isn't stupid will clear you wave in 3 seconds and force you under tower while kelvin snowballs you out of cover
>>539597194Is this supposed to mean something? Are you regularly competing?
>>539597243push back as hard as you can then, cant get pushed under tower when theres no creepwaveboring ass lane but you do what you have to do
>>539597223they should've taken notes from the black mesa team and let him drift all over the map
>>539597243In your hypothetical scenario we are to assume that kelvin has unlimited snowballs which is not reality.
I genuinely hope draft never gets added and I am not kidding
>>539597276>Is this supposed to mean something? it shows how your lack of actual game knowledge doesnt really mean anything to people who know how to play the game. hope that helps!
>>539597243You thank god it isn't something worse like a Kelvin/Warden or Kelvin/Viscous lane
>THROWING GRENADE>5 seconds later>THROWING ICE BOMBis kelvin honest?
>>539597223>Shiv>doesn’t actually stab niggas, he throws the knife ????? Valve??
so whats Seven's basic bitch easy win build? gun with surge?im sick of playing games and doing ZERO damage
When bans get added I will be banning Mina every game.I don't care how shit she isI don't care how many people play herI don't care if they rework herI will NOT be seeing this character in my game, ever.
>>539597438Except even Eternus lobbies aren't comparable to pro play, why are you pretending you're going against coordinated pro teams as opposed to little timmy soloq on Talon?
When bans never get added I will continue picking Mina as my highest priority every game I don’t care how good she is I don’t care how many people play her I will get mad if they rework her I WILL be playing this character in every game I can, ever
>>539597540This except a more annoying faggot character like Kelvin or Mo
>hmmm these winrates don't serve my narrative so im gonna spam pick/ban rates nowthird party websites and pro play was a mistake
Decided to try to make a non-gameplay hero tier list of my own.
>>539597979the steamcharting of deadlock
>>539597980>another good/bad chartBoring
>>539597613you wouldnt know shit about ernatus lobbies so suggest you just give up now
>>539597531>>539597223>bebop>voice lines aren't him just obnoxiously scatting and bopping all the time
>>539597418casual -> no draftrank -> draft
>>539597223>calico>has a sphynx cat??? Valve?
>>539597980Why do people always misinterpret Kelvin as being a good guy when he's an egotistical faggot at best
>winnrates of character all of sudden matter on /dlg/LOL
>>539598235What did he ever do wrong? He is just a jolly, n(ice) guy.
You can't refute this
>>539598126Why are you still larping that you're going against coordinated pro teams? What hero do you play that Talon makes you mald so much? Are you an Abramstard or something?
>>539597418>>539598215Is draft when you also get to chose heroes you don't want to play against?
>>539598192>mod that replaces hook catch sfx with "Scatman's world...">and replaces uppercut/bomb sfx with high-speed scat breakdowns
welp player drain has begun againETA 10k players in 1 month, see you all again for the next content patch in 7 months
talon, haze, and mina are all broken dogshit their just happen to be high pickrates so it gets dragged down by retardsdilate below
>>539598374went on an arctic expedition to an astral gate that his colleagues warned they were unprepared for, got his research team killed and got off scott free
>>539598436why are you pretending a talon player looking at the top screen healthbars and mini map for 4 seconds is such a hard concept that only a pro team could accomplish
>Kelvin ricochet beams you from the skybox>Mo disarms you from 10 trillion feet away>Warden majestic leaps behind you with lightning scroll and diddles your assholeIdk bro sometimes you see a certain comp and just don't want to even bother
this guy is fun but fuck me the doors just don't place when you need them toif i'm lucky i'll get ONE trolly carting enemy through door into tower per game
>>539598841As disgusting as he is to look at, Piggy is actually really insane with that hero. I rec stealing his setups/ build/ playstyle
>>539598841you put them on quickcast?
>>539598734Why are you struggling against one of the most telegraphed abilities in the game? Oh I see now, you're a Sevenigger that gets hit out of the sky after pressing your press 4 to win teamfight ult so you're seething kek
>>539598978>bind to mousewheel>set to quickcastinstant doors!!!!
>>539597980>putting two black women in the red sectionracist fuck, I'm glad Charlie Kirk got shot
>>539599046its so funny watching you do the implication game because you have no stance on anything you say
what am I supposed to do about kelvin icebeam in lane taking away 50% of my healthbar
>>539598841Just some QoL changes would make him less miserable to play his doors are so janky and I'm tired of his ult tping the enemy to some weird spot, he's super fun otherwise but this shit just kills him for me
>>539599207learn his beam timing and avoid the fight, also buy a lot of healing items (NOT RITE)
>>539597980Fixed.
>>539599207nothing
>>539598215okay this I can accept.
>>539599286>avoid the fightit's lane, avoiding the fight means losing the tower
>>539599202It's so funny watching you seethe knowing draft is ages away and if Talon gets any changes it'll only be buffs, better get good archonbro!
>>539598537Halloween update with priest, boho, druid and new game modes trust the plan
>>539599207Just tank it and kill Kelvin anyway? That's what usually happens when I'm laning as Kelvin.
>>539598192>Mirage>he’s actually real and can hurt you
Why were NA teams trying to get Kelvin+Shiv lanesShiv seemed like deadweight even if they got it.
>>539599478see thats the funny thing. i never said id ban talon anyway :^) I'd ban that nigger mo every single game until the servers get turned off
>>539599618Hey at least we can agree on one thing.
what tournament going on??
>>539599346AVA IS AN ACCOMPLICE
>>539598518yes, both teams go back and forth choosing their picks and bans ideally. league has a blind draft system that lets you pick something and ban something. 2 bans per team would be ideal in deadlock
If they're gonna add all this shield shit they need to start doing some anti shield items.
>>539598597I, am Turok
>>539598597yes, and i am one of those retards, minafags ITT thank me NOW for keeping your hero at a sub-50% wr to keep her from getting nerfed
>Victor>loseshuh?
why do Lash and Bebop hate each other?
>>539600142Bebop and Lash used to have a jazz band and one day Bebop kicked him from the band so Lash had to go work at a shipyard to make ends meet
>>539600142lash got rockem sockemd
>>539597194How did Kelvin become meta again somehow?
>>539599346>McGinnisShe makes machines that probably lead to the deaths of millions and works for a guy known to be evil enough to try to murder his own son for nothing
who should I play if I wanna rat like nature's prophet?
>>539600474Your mom
>>539600474Ivy is the designated rat character
>>539596864>has stamina mastery and every lash learns to wall jump>3 seconds of no 2 oh the horroryou disingenuous niggers deserve the rope
i love playing kelvin so much bros
>>539596617Answer is never. They won't gut his signature move.
>>539596412face of a tranny
>>539600767>i cant kill the guy with less speed, less dash distance (even more with vortex web while it also yanks him to the ground) and no escape button AIIIIIEEEEEEEmaybe its time to look in the mirror buddy
>>539600474Miku Guinness. Own the lane, pretend you’re the heavy weapons guy that can whip mini sentries.
>>539601079>just buy 6400 item>just 100-0 him in 3 seconds midgame when it matters mostnigger listen to yourself
>>539599518even if I land all my shots at his head he just wins the damage race
>>539600474ivy is the best for always being at an unattended lanewraith is the best for escaping the enemies if they collapse on youmina is by far the best at exploiting an unattended lane but isn't spectacular at surviving being collapsed onadditionally there are heroes that are very map-mobile like kelvin or viscous but they lack particularly outstanding structure damage.mcginnis is also a standout pusher, who is similar to mina in that she has to just hard shove lanes manually. however, she does less structure damage and absolutely 0 escape compared to mina (in exchange she is the best lane defender in the game)
>>539601260>6400 itemdumbass nigga
>>539601126what build for ratting>>539600564>mexicanno thanks
good evening i want to assrape and murder mina players
>>539601380>mina is by far the best at exploiting an unattended lane but isn't spectacular at surviving being collapsed onnta but what's a good benchmark for when i should have ult maxxed out if i plan to rat like all fuck
Update was great and all but it's tiring seeing heroes so fucking unbalanced. No fucking patches again. Mina broken. Mo broken. Seven still broken. Vindicta broken despite nerfs. Haze a nigger. Infernus a nigger. Shiv a nigger. Tired. I wanna stop playing until a next big update. So many heroes need changes and buffs but Valve is too lazy to actually play anything other than popular ones and tweaking those. Dynamo still only one ult hero. Lash got his flog nerfed and is a hit and run boring hero. So tired and bored.
>>539601382>vortex web>6400 soulsisn’t it sun down time for your dementia ridden faggot ass
>pick doorman>just run around throwing stuns and shit and being an annoying little faggot all game, eventually get enough spirit to blow people up
>>539601717you're only paying 4800 (tier 3 money) you fucking retard. do you know how components work?
>>539601527you can expect to have it maxed out towards the end of laning phase; get love bites to level 2 and then immediately rush nox nostra to level 3.
>2025>Pisslows still complaining about Mo
I think I should've used smaller images
>>539598607sounds like he wanted to do a good deed and it's just that his previous successes (at making good deeds) blinded his judgment
>>539596617My one and only complaint about him is that his ult's cooldown makes no fucking sense in comparison to Dynamo's. With the changes to dynamo's ult duration Lash's requires far less item investment and he does not need his team to capitalize on it either. I also don't understand why Sinclar can steal any ult but his is back up in seconds reguardless of whose ult he steals.
>>539555215imagining yamato struggling to say this in english but being proud of her joke
>>539601395Buy gun items, rush cultist and tesla, then just get whatever greens you need to stop their team
I've been playing co-op vs bots a bunch, when am I ready to go grief real games?
>>539600474secret calico rat buildconstantly push lanes in ava form at max speed
>>539599346>miku and billymcginnis doesn't give a shit if her inventions are used for evil purposes or if she eventually dies creating said inventions for the second maelstrom, billy is as bad as vyper just dumber. both go on red>miragei will bump it to debatable for now>hazered just for being a fed>vindictaif GT belongs in unfortunate so does she, both are driven by vengeance and hate the friends of humanity>bebopdefinitely very sad, he is just trying to help his mom>doormandebatable, the baroness hotel isn't evil just haunted>viscousi don't trust him, debatable
is gun/melee lash worth looking into ? I literally build the same items almost every game
>>539600474dont listen to these idiotsplay Paige and just Macopyte buildings. Buy the Throwing Alch gun shit for more garbage on the floor.get movement speed to run away or die every time you appear.
>>539602027viscous really is the only character who matters
>>539602550I played about ten or so matches before entering the ass rape zone that is regular pvp in the starter ranks. just learn what your buttons do and what the recommended items do for your hero
>5 forced losses in a rowuninstalled for good, I'm uninterested in games where the enemy team works together, and I just can't carry hard enough with 5 games where the entire enemy team is positive k/d at 20 minutes, and mine isn't.it's always an uphill battle.It's always garbage. I hope nothing but failure for this product.
should side lanes go for runes?
pick phase when please for the love of godgetting drifter one time and every single person on the enemy team has a way to just ignore me or 1v1 me
>>539603063I’m gonna try this, are there any good coomer mods for paige so the experience is more enjoyable?
>>539602550the game's in beta, team comps are random anyway, you can't really grief these games
>Capacitor is supposed to remove all non-ultimate buffs>Doesn't force Krill to unburrownice misleading description shit Dotards
can we please butcher enchanter's emblem and battle vest already?
>>539603671Krill, Warden, and Seven are just the dev's pet heroes so they get special treatment
>>539603671giving those retards counterplay would make too much sense
>>539601126How do you even win the lane as Miku? The turrets do nothing, the wall might get you some denies if you're lucky, the heal is okay at best (until you fully upgrade it) and the gun, while good at sustained fire, isn't the best at last hitting.
>>539603849elaborate, they’re good defensive items that are cheap. or are you trying to say that they’re too efficient for their cost?
>>539603872why would krill and warden pet heroes when they're so fucking boring and basicI'm confident that like, multiple people here could design better ones.
>>539603401I can't believe Valve is actually out to get this guy!!!
>>539604078It's stupid that they give so much value for 1600 each. Everyone's running them every single game and it's stupid. Lash with his inherent 10% gets 25% spirit resistance 5 minutes into the game because of it.
<539597418Ok pedophile
>>539603992use turrets as ways to tax enemy health bars when they try to poke you. throw them on the sight lines that people peek to get orb secures or pokes and just focus on your minions. heal when you can and that’s about it. your gun as a shitload of ammo by default and if you rush monster rounds and cultist your clear becomes unfair since you don’t need to reload
>>539603849the fuck is this from?
>>539604450brazil
>>539603671capacitor should remove all buffs really and interrupt ultsis good on paper but not that good on practice because curse exists
>>539604450I found it on the fanart channel of the discord server. I think it's based on a series of brazilian caricatures
What's he looking at bros?
>>539604634his car that got firebombed
>>539604247I can agree that they’re a bit too efficient but the alternative is having the early game be even more cancerous against certain heroes. I see it as a necessary evil. I don’t wanna deal with a grey talon Qmaxxing and not having some kind of way to mitigate it
>>539604829This just speaks to those heroes being overtuned than anything.
drifter is matt mercer btw
im new. how do i carry as infernus if my team gets really behind? I try to splitpush and get a lot of money for myself but I struggle to not get blown up by wardens/lashes etc. I think my itemization might be too cookie cutter but idk whats safe to cut out and what to swap for in such situations. I know its my job to help carry if im on a hero like this i just dont know what to change
>>539604450
>>539604078anon those are offensive items not defensive
>>539605046I think infernus got nerfed into the ground but I could be wrong.
>>539588007Seven would be honest if he weren't constantly overtuned
>>539604292>use turrets as ways to tax enemy health bars when they try to poke you.A lot of heroes have ways to just delete my turrets with no counterplay. Anything that leaves a lingering AoE means a dead turret. Sure, that means they used the ability on the turret and not on me, but now they're ahead in souls...
>entire team reports someone obviously aimbotting>doesnt get froggedwow cool
the bepop bot is stuck below the map just shooting at the floor...
>>539605106It really was brazil
>>539605861>you can't just report spam someone into a banwow
>>539605928uma delicia
>>539605934What it's supposed to do when you report spam someone for cheating, is check their accuracy in the current game. If it detects a major anomaly (like 80%+ headshots with a considerable sample size), the anti-cheat frogging is supposed to kick in.
>>539605875>bebop bot>there's no bebop
>>539604953I’m surprised they whipped that generic onevoice faggit into doing an accent. the only other role I can think of where I didn’t immediately recognize him was yusuke in persona 5
>>539605928brazilian image but the text is in spanish
>>539604953well, I guess we just have to wait 15 years for this game to go into beta and a semblance of balance to get brought to the cast.
>>539554006Holy shit bro get some new images
>>539599428not entirely. BUT sometimes it's better to give up the tower and farm rather than letting them gang rape you.
holy shit bro, keep posting the same images. I think they’re funny
>>539606187my bad I meant to robot professor
>>539606251Hey I like Mercer. I definitely think he's more talented than a typical vidya VA.
tired of seeing this shiv build already
>>539606782got a better alternative boy?
>>539606817him getting nerfed back to irrelevancy because he's cancer and unfun to play against
>>539606643he’s good, but man only has one voice. the same voice he’s used for years and years with rare few exceptions. he’s definitely better than someone like Liam O’Brian who is literally onevoice and variations of onevoice, that being Illidan “Le Preparations Man” Stormrage/Archer
>>539606906I agree. Did you play back when he was in his prime? Release, nerf, then buffed back into a server admin state, nerfed, buffed back to server admin, then giganerfed, now buffed again into what seems to be a balanced state maybe. But his design is still cancerous.
>>539603671It turns off their damage resistance from Burrow at least.
>>539606906name me a hero that is fun to play against
>>539606782Is this the only hero who actually likes Decay
>>539602864should be reportable actually
>>539602864lash only has 1 viable build, which is spirit nuker from lane to mid-game then ultbot in late gameat some point, gunlash was actually viable, but for some reason it was nerfed into the fucking ground (wasn't even better than regular spirit lash)
Heroes I never see pulling their weight, even if they get ahead in souls:>Calico>Dynamo>Geist>Grey Talon>Holliday>Mo & Krill>Paradox>SinclairAre these heroes just farm vacuums without innate carry capacity, or am I too low MMR for them to flourish? I manfought a 50k souls Sinclair as a 35k souls Kelvin and won.
does duration extender work for shiv rage
>enemies get rejuv>teammate immediately tries running urnForced 50 agents are real
>>539607110gee, let’s give the guy with an execute a>damaging dash>overloaded passive that gives him higher effective hp>poke>and a damage buffall this together is 2 heroes worth of shit on a single character. his kit is way overloaded and the only somewhat balanced thing is that his gun sucks
just played with the most obvious waller ive seen in a gametheir stats weren't even good, i only got suspicious after getting beamed through veil repeatedly by themthe replay shows them damn near constantly pinging exactly where people on our team were even with no vision/infoim tired of every multiplayer game being infested with these niggers
>>539607262i always buy decay against a billy
>Built for feral dog knotsVindictaMina>Built for ugly bastard rapeIvyPaige>Built for dominating and humiliating meWraithGeist
>>539607839This is how powerful they think they have to make heroes with no CC.
>>539607485You are too low MMR. Paradox, Gray Talon and Mo are some of the best heroes in the game right now, especially Mo is easily top 3. Paradox debatably.
>enter match>laning with a pocket>notices he doesn't use any of his skills>ask if he is new and he says yes>literally the 5th pocket in a row that is completely new to the game that ends up on my team>other team has people that actually knows how to play>our team also has a mcginnis that walled his own teammates like 3 times>match ends in 20 minutes, they don't even go for midboss>match ends in 20 minutesI am legit considering not playing this game anymore until it is officially released and they fix the matchmaking. I am far from decent but I always get paired with niggas that are completely new or don't know you need to press the numbered buttons to use abilities. Worst of all is that most of the time I don't get to stomp anyone, the good players always end up on the other team somehow. There is a thread on the official forums for people to just bitch about it because it is so fucking bad>>539608012couple of days ago I went against a cheating haze and infernus in the same lane. If you think this is bad you should see CS2, shit there is there. In my region most players have cheats and during casual play if someone is cheating "too hard" they threaten to start using their cheats.
>>539605046Max flamedash, farm with it. Max afterburn, shoot motherfuckers. Play around Lash’s cooldowns. How is warden blowing you up?
>>539603849why? the early-mid game already favors spirit nukers, that would just make them even stronger
>>539598215casual should also add a 1% chance to trip (get knocked down) while sprinting and random crit for abilities
>>539607485>>Grey Talon>>HollidayThose are good DMG heroes. what are you talking about
>>539608586So what? We just see these two armors in every build for every hero forever?
>>539605046if ur too dumb to carry on infernus just get off the game and do something elsenot trying to be rude but the cognitive load doesnt get lighter than that, this game just isnt made for your type if this is an issue
>>539608402Nah
>>539608654Holliday is AOE damage but she eats massive shit to any form of spirit resistance, her ult also relies on her team so if she has mouth breathers she will fall off very quickly.
>>539606782>decay and healbaneam i missing something?
>>539608768you can't think for yourself
>>539608402being a good hero and being unable to carry are not mutually exclusive
>>539608402thisjust because you can a 1v1 someone as kelvin (with the dedicated 1v1 dome) doesn't mean they're not pulling their weight
>>539595129Lets be real. How often do mana issues come up in dota outside of vs characters that specifically punish your mana? the early game consumables fill you up on mana pretty easily if you need it and anyone that wants a lot of mana will get items for that early
>>539608885No amount of whining from you is gonna change the fact Talon is a shit, easily countered hero kek
>>539608768next you'll say mina is bad
>>539608926>Have a 15k soul lead>Can't win a 1v1So what's the point of the hero?
>>539609024probably do other things than 1v1 a hero suitable for 1v1s
>>539608305>Built for feral dog knots>Vindictayes, minei'm a werewolf
Why do my matches get harder with every loss?I'm fucking down to initiate with a 20 match loss streak and I swear these players are better than ever.
>>539609003Most of the cast is better than her
>>539605046It's never just one thing, failure in this game is most often the combination of several issues.You could be unaware of the current state of enemies' whereabouts and intents; you could be itemizing wrong, pushing at the wrong times, not contributing to teamfights despite soaking up all the jungles in the map (VERY common issue for farmed Infernus players); maybe you are not taking the enemy's jungle and slot machines when you can and therefore not pushing your advantage; you aren't prioritizing and grabbing buffs; you aren't ambushing people and forcing their ultimates; you aren't accounting for cooldowns before jumping into a fight, etc. and all of this is compounding to put you behind. All of this comes from playing but also from watching and learning from better players.Ignore >>539608748 he's most likely a shitlow personally butthurt at Infernus' existence
>>539609196no you're notprove it bitch
>>539608305i can see that for vindicta yes but mina is more suited for ugly bastards
>>539609196post tail now
>>539608881knives are constant spirit damage and decay keeps up rage while pushing someone into kill range
You cannot convince me that this entire game wasn't inspired by Hellboy. For fuck's sakes, Abrams is literally Hellboy but blue.
>>539609223HOLY FUCKING SHITTER ALERT LMAO
>>539609260>>539609335you will see it when i'm added to the game
>>539608305i was gonna dispute ivy but that's actually kind of hot when i think it overdefinitively would swap mina and paige, though
Sinclair, Shiv, and Victor can never be allowed to be good because their kits are fundamentally broken cancer. The devs should feel ashamed of themselves for how they designed them.
>>539609392Welcome to the discussions we had a year and half ago when the alpha leaked anon
>>539608465you are the "good" player on your team. they have newbs too.
>>539609457apart from her ult melting objectives (something any m1 can do) she provides zero value to the team >BUH BUH BUH BUH BUH SHE'S REALLY GOOD IF TOP 0.000000001% PLAYERS PLAY ON HER!!!!!!you aren't getting those players in your game nor are you that good yourself, they'd perform well on any hero. seethe and dilate below seekertard
low elo is hell bcs of the smurfs like everytime i see someone playing good i check their acc and suprise suprise no pfp and new account
Reminder they dont want to fix the matchmaking, you are literal lab rats.They combined ranked AND normal matches/ranks just to enforce the worst matchmaking possible and gather feedback from it, you are chasing the cheese behind the door.
>>539602664People aren't talking enough about how much of a bitch calico is at pushing>Wave gets pushed up>She does a million damage to it with her abilities and melee>invincible ults out>You can't do shit about it if you try to fight her directly under your tower>Then she avas away at the speed of soundLiterally the only character that can do this
>>539609748reminder that I do not attach my fun in the game to winning or losing the match, or my rank in a closed alpha test.
>>539609714The only thing thats killing this game is its own shitty community
>>539609817good thing she does barely any objective damage
>>539609702you're coping so fucking hard lmaooooo
>>539609748they'd rather prioritize people actually finding gamesthe player base isn't big enough for 24/7 perfectly balanced games, and the newer players need to get to play too
>>539609817Because no one gives a shit about Calico anymore, she's boring as fuck and the fun parts of her kit are basically just a worse Billy, might as well play him (and they are playing him).I see Calico like one every 10 games nowadays.
>>539609962Ava is the fun part of her kit though
>>539607262I don't think decay is good on shiv anymore. I understand the argument for it but it's not justifiable enough. Also melee builds are gay
>>539609952>they'd rather prioritize people actually finding gamesNigga I was just in a 12 minute queue for an emissary game with like 8 characters selected, that ended up having a potpourri of oracles, archons, emissary and 1 ritualist.Last night I saw my friend on a 9 minute queue at 9 pm east coast for alchemist.
>>539606251TRVE even doe you quoted the wrong post.
>>539609952I'd rather wait 20m for one balanced match. You're probably a smurf ass nigger anyway.
>>539609927why would i need to cope im not the shitter getting filtered by a hero that's countered by a 1600 buy kek.>BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT HER POTENTIAL IS LIMITLESS DUDE SHE GOT PICKED A BUNCH IN PRO PLAY!!!!!!!and if she does happen to get nerfed you'll just go back to whining about haze while refusing to improve at the game. learn to counterbuy and maybe you can peak ritualist if you're lucky!
>>539610228>esports in a closed alphayou're the reason why the game has low population.
>>539610286you're not fooing anyone mr initiate, now make the new thread like a good cuck bitch
>>539610228Most people don't.
>>539609748As Long as i get more casual modes in the future and draft, or at least not this priority picks bs, i'll be happy
>>539610286Instantly exposed yourself as an initiate retard by downplaying Haze, kill yourself.
>>539609952>the player base isn't big enough for 24/7 perfectly balanced gamesThere's literally 36k players online, that's more than the grand majority of multiplayer games except the top 0.1%It is genuinely impossible that the game cannot find a good balanced match with this amount of players on the most populated ranks when there's not even a ranked/normal split.You KNOW it's not the amount of players because this problem has always been present, all the way back when we had 2k players and even when we had 171k players, the one constant has always been Deadlock having the worst matchmaking known to man.
>>539610526>There's literally 36k players onlinesplit across regions and most in a match
>>539610592>split across regions>still get russian names or people with thick russian accents in my game
>>539609621yeah but not on the same level of goodness you know. like i laned against a billy and a seven and even one of them on the team would have balanced things out.
is Abram's charge broken or am I just retarded, it never applies the stun and they just parry me I've got no follow-up
>>539610592Peak hours matter, or are you telling me there's 31k russian players at 5 am Moscow?
>>539610650NA is so dead people get sent to fill nighttime EU matches
>>539610592split across regions and bugged ranks
>>539610878precisely.
Down another 20k players...
This game kind of sucks.20 hours in and every match today (10) have been losses. And not close games absolute shit shows.I can't learn anything like this.
>>539611201too much unbalanced cancer like mina, haze, seven, and the matchmaking is dogshit. was to be expected
this game fucking sucks lmao
I like Paige because I enjoy being a caster and I don't mind supporting, but I want more mobility. Is there anyone quite like that?
>>539611561how do you have so little souls in those long ass games dude
>>539611561>Lower souls than minutes on every single game no matter whatThis is the teammate I get after waiting 20 minutes in queue on my rank up match.
>>539611645I'm initiate and getting my ass handed to me.like 80k+ soul deficits for entire team
>>539611603just build movement speed
This is not a real person
>>539610675it's very janky, but you can only get a guaranteed heavy melee when you have the T2 upgrade for it AND you hold the melee button while you are already charging, otherwise your ass is getting dunked on
New>>539611751>>539611751>>539611751>>539611751>>539611603That's a really broad statement, mobile casters are abundant like Lash, Pocket, Mina and kinda Yamato, you'd need to narrow it down.
>dude posts that he's struggling>berate the nigga instead of offering advicethis is why deadlock will die, no lifers will ruin it as they did dota, tf2, cs, and every other valve game.
>>539611603Kelvin
>>539560286I buy TH for the health and ability range increases.
>>539611864What are we supposed to tell him nigger, win the games?We have nothing to tell with the information he offered except MAYBE farm more.
>>539609925wrong
>>539609196get into the game already you dumb faggot
>>539609392nvr4git the VG's>"I hate Blue Hellboy so fucking much" - Shiv
>>539611561it's just you.
>>539606782>zero sustainI'd replace mystic shot with some leech
Active items and half of the abilities in the game sound and feel like wet noodles.
>>539608718they're both the basic t2 resist items, why wouldn't you? is not getting armor a leaguebab thing?
>>539598841I really like Doorman but being a support utility with such shitty lategame spirit damage like pulling teeth, is Gunman really that good?
>>539602027Fuck this astroturfed covert advertisement "meme"
