Newest Adventurers:RaphaelloLegendary Human PriestReminiscence BannerSheli - Legendary Elf Mage>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphneCurrent Events:>Curse Doll questUntil 2025/9/28>Old Castle Beta Season 3Until 2025/10/152025/8/28~2025/9/24Ardent Kingslayer Galbadus Banner9/18(木)~10/14(火) Raphaello BannerFREE 800 Gems of Org (one time) + 50 per week on their official web currency store: store.wizardry.infoFanguides:https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)General Information:https://rentry.org/x5xxitrzTavern/Camp choices:https://rentry.org/2gngvv2nFriend Code:https://rentry.org/SavoryRiskI.V checker and Other Stat Calculators:https://wizardry-daphne.mcwild.net/init_status/Previous: >>539492779
>content is at such high levels that nobody even cooks a thread since everybody is busy
Be reborn...
last bread didn't even last a full day why so fast
>>5395949032h weapons being meta was the least expected thing
>>539594780You just need to understand that half of the thread's population is lazy, jobless, phoneposting "people" who live south of the equator who are physically and spiritually incapable of being a productive human, and are just here to shit it up.
>>539594461I just got home, what am I in for
>>539595061no need to be racist
>>539595079Rev up those 2Handers!
>>539594797I don't want to
im going to be smart and hold on to all my ores until the next item shop bonus
>>539595061uh oh wagie melty
>>539595061What do you have against Australians?
I need thief CC for Rinne so she's usable
When's the next Extract 300 Junk Mission?I have approximately 4000 pieces of junk I need an excuse to process...
Post your beat 2H.
>>539597029does the def pen on axes even matter if the numbers from 2hs get so high now?
>>539597029
Were bows also buffed or just real two-handed weapons?
>>539597304All of them.Even Staves. My mages regular wack things for triple digits now.
>>539597304They where, so now Thiefs are better than Ninjas. But Spears are still better for backlines if you don't need a chest opener.
>>539597496Except Thieves still don't have a single good attacking skill unless you're a whale with 9 Gandolfos to spare.
One-handed axes...One-handed maces...One-handed staves...Forgotten...
>>539597029behold, the necrocore raper 9000. it still has an alterable slot, too.
>>539597749Those all do different things. 1H staves are for healbots that want the extra defense of a shield and don't need the extra stats for damage. 1H maces are for inflicting status effects. 1H axes are for taking all the good stat rolls from the good weapons.
>>539597749Wands are still preferable for backline Priests
is stunbash lv3 comparable to hs3?
>>539598171No, it does less damage.
Does the mad alchemist powercreep Alice?Please say yes
>>539599253lol lmao
>>539599115thanks, idk why they both have same desc that they deal moderate phys dmg
>>539597749i want to beat up this goblin
>>539599289that's not a no..
>Castle messages showing up everywhereDrecom...
umm 2H hammerbros??
>>539599418ask yourself, "what he would do better than alice?"make a list
>>539599520That's just gerulf I'm sure.
what was the point of nerfing promise swords when they were going to buff 2handers like this a week after
>>539600101Because it was stepping on the toes of a paypiggy weapon.
I see I can change the BP of all my merged charactersSooo Flut... IQ or Spd?
Ok, the numbers do go above 999 good to know...
The good: Abenis hitting 1k surety normal attacksThe bad: she was charmed...
>>539601959MASKETTO NO
>cant enter ninjer cave without zooming in the map now
>>539602228drecom vibe coding
>>539602228it makes sense due to how crowded it's getting
>>539602024circumcised abenis...
>>539602392yeah but it doesn't even remember your zoom level(like half the fucking settings in the game)
>>539601959is he okay?
>>539602392unless you play on pc, then the zoom feels even worse
>>539601037a slow mage is a useless mage
When was Wild Strike buffed?
>>539603863awhile back but nobody cared at the time since it only does 1 hithowever, with the new 2h buff...
Chloe 10 BPStr, Dex or Spd?
>>539604087And it's still shit.
>>539597716Poison Attack, Sneak Attack, and Precision Strike are all good.
>>539604164luck
Has anyone confirmed if SUR resistance has been raised?Also, should knights with 2H be using damaging skills or just auto attacks?
wake me up when wild strike doesn't nerf your spd
>>539604273The soft caps on all of those are still dreadfully low with no easy way to level them.
>>539604164str or spd
Did the 2H buff also strengthen bows? It did right? They too have the Strength-Based effect.
Is Iarumas good for the old castle or should I go with 4 fighters?
>>539605151Yes
>>539605246tzalik still has its uses for being able to hit anything unless you're using bows
Rinne status?
>>539604273sneak attack is dogshit, having to spend a turn to hide for that piss poor damage is ass.
>>539605246Idk what your comp looked like last time but I'm running only 1 M(P) this time,as long as you got a few cleanses ready on more than 1 person go for it
Last time we had old castle there was no more nyontent until it ended...
>>539605151yes
Is it worth it to reroll for lana/yek/alice or should I just roll with whatever I get?
>>539605947Unless you get completely fucked, i'd just roll with whatever. You don't need any character.
>>539605947yek or alice yeah
>>539604229wild strike lv1 has heavy attack lv3 damage for 4 less sp, and the speed penalty is irrelevant if the battle ends before the user needs to act again. it supplants heavy attack for every fighter besides berkanan.>>539604395>Also, should knights with 2H be using damaging skills or just auto attacks?half the reason 2h weapons are good now is because they enhance skill damage modifiers. give whatever knight you're using heavy attack or decisive torso strike.>>539605246the insane buff bows got have made him harder to justify fielding but tzalik still can't miss, which can be useful for getting guaranteed kills on back row succubi during the last few floors.
>>539605947I would just go for favorites as f2p desu
>>539606137I have 800 Attack and Wild Strike 2 is dealing less damage than HA3.Your gear must be utter shit.
>>539605947Just get 1 Sheli or 2 with as little gems as possible so you can start saving for the anniversary The rest will come to you eventuallyLana will make the early game much easierYeka will make the second dungeon easier Alice is a brick
>>539606137Berk learns wild strike too. Tzalikman doesn't, but he's got Tzalik.
>post without any capitalization or periods>nothing but disinfoEvery fucking time.
>guy that can't reply whining about stuffEvery fucking time
>>539605246I didn't even bring him this time(used debra with a bow instead), too often he's just sitting there doing nothing because you're saving every last drop of mana for fists, and even when he's blasting you still have to hold back during the boss rush, otherwise you'll be quickly oom(unless you want to dump pots into him). But, like >>539606137 says, it can't miss, and there was a few times I was like "Fucking debra, stop missing" this run.
lulu sucks and stinks and is a dumb wench
>>539606137Can you just Porto the speed penalty away?
>>539597429for real? I'll reinstall and check it out. i've been craving to come back, I got walled a bit at Gurada and stopped after the collab event.
>>539605947lana's heal passive is very nice early on, I survived without the others. You can always guarantee at least one from the bone picker in town.
>>539605803post bow
Post bow with Thief or Ninja Skills.
This is fun.
>>539606768You're not getting numbers like that without attack buff circle jerking at Lv2 regardless of gear, which is likely why that key part of the interface is cut off.
>>539606768
>>539606582>too often he's just sitting there doing nothingNow more than ever frontline Iarumas makes sense, since you can swap him out with a backline bow/spear fighterThen at least he can HA3 spam when you aren't tzaliking
>fighting scorp lady in boss rush>only scorp left alive>spin attack>samkat charmed>samkat goes next and 1 taps MCfuck, now I gotta do it again
>>539607680thats cat love
This can potentially unfuck some characters can't it?If you are lucky enough that they already had an alt.Fuck is Yeka's summer banner still up? I might need to roll her.
>>539607750>This can potentially unfuck some characters can't it?yes
>>539607750>Fuck is Yeka's summer banner still up? I might need to roll her.Wait a few months for rerun :^)
>>539607750Yeah my Flut had Vit points invested on her that I can change into an useful stat now
>>539607852But the maintenance is in 2 weeks...
>>539607126>you won but i'm not owned i'm calm
isn't this coming a bit late? welcome, but late
>>539607881FUCKI never did manage to get Warrior Lana.I am gonna be fucked AGAIN
>>539606316post proof or die and accept death.
>>539607968Half the fun of the game is the ongoing clown show that is Drecom's management. Note that there is no stat called "agility" in this game.
>>539608114hahahahaha i missed this place
Investing HA3 into knights that don't start with it is cancer...
I didn't think about this until now, but doesn't this latest balance pass kind of brick Iarumas? He does less damage than just bringing a real fighter now.
>>539608693we were just talking about this scroll up
>>539608756Yeah I felt silly because I forgot to update the thread before postingThat said he feels pretty shitty without a class change now, the lack of passives really hurts
I regret spending gem on brickrumas
The seasonal player passport...It had been over a month since I last opened the game, is that the trigger?
>>5396088951. the 2h buffs are undeniably getting nerfed2. he still has a niche even now despite how strong 2h are
>>539608693Yep the update was rough for him. Now he's kinda like a bow fighter that can't miss and that ignores the physical resistance undead have at the cost of being half as resource efficient.
How much does samurai stance hit their def? If I give Shiou enough HP will she stop getting one shot?
>>539607143it's just buff from gale(atk up when evade) and lana. but sure, here's without lana.
Which characters even got an alt so far?Only Lana, Flut, Adam, Chloe and Yeka?I think I only got Flut and Chloe...
>>539610093and marianne
>>539610309Right, thanks.Didn't get her either.God damn it, I have wanted to unfuck my Lana for so long, and it is the SECOND CHANCE, and I still can't do it.
got it done, gonna try to make number go down on saturday I guess
>>539611060Where's the lvl 1 hackerGOD when we need him...
>>539611060>top 10 still using Shiou2h bros...
>>539611483I also used shiou, if she doesn't get charmed and kill you.lvl 3 bamboo slicer does 4k x2 surety on the bossesthe 2h buff is a badass change for backrow bow users though
>>539611060>~10k party power in 1 and 3How, multiple bugged 0s?Also did they nerf the scorp? She didn't charm me at all either fight
>>539605947rerolling was only worth it from the first month of game launchbuy resource starter account for like $5 and start with two sheli
>>539612026>Also did they nerf the scorp? She didn't charm me at all either fighi'd assume you either evaded or got lucky, my shiou got charmed every single time(the others didnt)took off her wep for first round and hit the boss with batilgref and the issue was gone though
>2h changes>this gen: le shiou is le shitou now!!!!!!>appearing all over top teams in castleermmmmmm I thought she's worse than 2h fightees now gwos?????
>>539612442Only retards could think a ton of damage every other turn is somehow better than a ton of damage every turn Sam are still high risk high reward just as always
>spy on leaderboard MCs>lv 14 passive everything up>lv 7 literally every inheritable>lv 6 all legendary skillswhales really are playing a different game.
>>539612396Nah she hit my whole front row turn after turn after turn in both fights, zero charms, meanwhile the succ behind her was Charming me just fine
So what's the two-handed weapon tierlist now?
drecom... tag or class change event doko...
>>539612862Bows/Spears - Axes > Sowrds > Hammers
What dictates who shows up on your leaderboard team?
>went through the optimal route on ninja quest>still got blown upah so the first time is just forced then even if you did it right? God damn, I was just happy about finally finishing the fight
>clicked mc on accident before drinking relicbrew>he didnt drink it NIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>539613376highest power as far as I can tell>>539613576>the first time is just forced then even if you did it right?yes
>>539608693is there anywhere to farm sabers for him yet?
>>539612442Shiou has always been bad in part because shes too hard to build compared to everyone else and that comparison just got so much worse for her. Whales and grindmaxxing NEETs succeeding with her doesn't mean she's actually good.
Seems like fleeing gets heavily penalized in foray speed now, got like 130 extra from fleeing two fights and avoiding the mobs against just fighting straight there.
>>539614309nigga mine has a steel katana and I have beaten almost all of the harder content minus superbosses first try partly because of hershe deals retarded damage even if not built well
>Old Castle so just Auto attacking everything to save resources>All 3 of my 2H chads hitting for 800-1k auto attack crits>They double hit half the time>Shiou/Lana doing a pitiful 250, sometimes 400 on crit x2/3Samkat bros...
>>539612679pumping up MC that hard is mega based
>>539614537>Shiou/Lana doing a pitiful 250, sometimes 400 on crit x2/3post your atk value for lana and atk/mag for shiouI'm assuming they're comically low
>>539614537>enemies in old castle have a gorillion hp and def in higher floors>1 handers hit for nothing in comparison to 2hunless youre purposefully using shit 1h, makes sense to me
abenis is top2 for castle, guess she's more meta than samkot
atk substats going half as far on anything that isnt a 2h fighter is retardedaint no way they wont nerf this shit
>>539616898yeah this is way too much.
>>539616898I just hope they don't go too nuclear on them because 2Hs needed this since forever.
>>539617629That's a good party if you like them
>>539617629assuming good/neutral mc, based on what I seelana elise MCany yeka thiefturn lana into a fighter laterreally you can use who you like, gear + invested skills can make any character strong if you really like them, weakest would be D0 limiteds
>>539617380They probably won't. Honestly just scaling back the multiplier for blessings would be fine.For what it's worth, my twin daggers absolutely compete for damage on ninja. But that's 4 hits vs 1, and I can't compete with wild strike.
>>539618205what's so good about elise? I have enough copies saved up to get disc 3 if I wanted but I thought armor break might be better.
Damn I trampled this castle. The anti charm gear made sure the last boss was a joke. Prayer of Rebellion too op also.
>>539611060Praying for our lord and savior to show up
>>539611060WTF people told me not to roll for sheli
>>539620323Fell for it award etc. She is the best mage so far.
>>539620072she has a 10% boost to neutral character in her row, so bery good for dmgmaxxing.
>>539620437is there a serious tier list so I can avoid the meme advice?
>>539620532column* not row
>>539620570This is somewhat rightI don't agree with the position of some characters thohttps://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/877271
>>539620532my MC is good. I should probably mention Iarumas is D2 Berka is D1 and my frontline are all using the dragon 2hander from the collab. i'm trying to figure out where I should farm out more gear. Gonna try to do the elf quest first tho.
>>539620570It's all meme advice because there's no real reason to pull for anyone while the game is easy enough to not need a single LimitedIf the game ever evolves to the point where you DO need someone like 90% of other gachas, it'll be a new character that does something beyond our imagining at this pointGet who floats your boat or just hoard
>>539607158give me that
>>539601959Farmer vs the ruler of Chloroa (visualized)
My Savia did over 700 sur damage with a normal attack I know it isn't a lot but it made me happy
>>539620570No. You really just have to learn to build teams. Unlike most gacha games there are no big losers to avoid, you just look at what classes they get, what element they are, and what their innate ability is. Everyone in the same class does the same thing outside of innate and legendary skills, with some stat differences that can be largely geared around.>>539620975Yeah see, these tier lists are crazy. Elda/Sheli/Eldorado is the tankiest back row you could ask for against anything that uses dark magic which is currently EVERY SUPERBOSS.
>>539621112eventually we will get a limited buffer that will break the game. it always happens.
>>539622176>no big losers to avoidKid named Adam:
wow that was actually so easy this 2h buff has me hitting for 500-700 all day
>>539622225Beware the Dancer class
Bards exist in the extended wizardry classes (wiz. 6-8) apparently. We still lack Lord and Bishop, if it even makes sense to release them.
is there any reason to level up the wanderer class? stats or skills or anything?
>>539622903The other classes will probably be something different from what we'd expect like with sam, they will just have some unique mechanic going for them
>>539622981They're allowed in all the trials, but so far have been worse than the actual classes. Basically, just do it once you've maxed everything else.
>>539622990the passive skill will increase the aspd of all party members trust the plan
>>539622981Level it til you get all the skills from it, but no there's nothing hidden or interesting, wanderer is effectively just worse fighter. They're technically a jack of all trades but not really.
>>539622981Allowed in all the class-based proving ground event, no real gameplay useIt's for the semi-casuals that levels up MC fighter to 60 and Wanderer to 60 for proving grounds.
wanderer being at 60 will be the only way to unlock lord. trust the plan.
Do 2 handers hit skill softcap faster or is the cap higher for them?
>>539625338bigger caps apparently
>class of heroes 3 suddenly drops out of nowhereok
all i know is killing gorgons
>>539591798SpearsYou could think it will be axes, but again def is flat damage reduction, so 30% def ignore is literal nothingburger once you stack 10k damage, most endgame enemies have like 200-300 damage reductionSo the difference between sword, axes and maces is literally just base stats, and mace gets a bit higher miss damage and can stunSpear can just hit backline if it's necessary>>539625338Higher cap and higher scaling, also all atk in gear and buffs is multiplied by 2
Man I just saw thief Savia and she looks really cute like that and almost makes me want her, but she cant even use her passive in that class right since it needs spear? Really silly
>>539627970She still gets an evasion bonus from wearing light armor so it's not completely wasted.
>>539628114Ah I thought she had to have both, still shame it would be cool if characters like this got to actually keep profiencies regardless of class as part of the passive. Even if spear thief sounds silly too in its own way but it would be unique
>its been 1 day>2h still isnt nerfedare we safe?
>>539629049lol no
Does doing the ninja quest and the final kill for class change alligment shift you towards evil as a non-evil?
>>539630470ye I become neutral
>>539630470i stayed good, but it most likely does shift you towards evil
>>539629049getting nerfed first thing Monday
it's either1. getting nerfed2. this amount of damage is actually what will be needed for the start of abyss 4
someone give me an actual argument to why it needs nerf that isn't >Whale Seethingor>I hyper invested in samurai/1hand
>>539631135sword of promises was nerfed in less than 24 hours and it did worse damage than what axes do currently
>>539631135If they don't nerf it next abyss boss will have 100k hp, 300k+ for superbossesIs that argument enough?
>>539631135It's gonna end up with a fuckton of HP bloat in Abyss 4, which will force the game to be played with 2H FPS spam and nerf even further other ways to play. Not like things were much better before, but still, my Shelli could compete in terms of DPS with Zelos lvl 3 and now she's completely left behind because my Elise can bust out 2.4 k damage every 2 turns using a suboptimal spear. My Lana with the Dragonslayer shits out 1.8K Heavy Attacks lvl 3 every single turn, and that's without criting.
>>539631135Abyss 4 will have to scale to it and it outpaces Mages too much, it trivializes the content we have incl. superbosses, the 2H damage distribution among the 2H weapons by themselves makes no sense and bows are out of control despite having infinite range, Axe -def doesn't matter because def doesn't matter at all vs Big Number, advanced classes feel less worth investment now
>>539631298Gatekeeper is already at 50k. We're half way thereIt wouldn't be a superboss if it wasn't cancer.
You now remember thisYou now remember how bad abyss 3 completion rates are.
>>539631539grade exams introduced enemies that are basically immune to phys. If they introduced actual immunity to phys. mages still keep a niche. It would also help if they made staffs that do magic damage on normal attacks.
>>539631135I honestly don't see an issue. With no shield you are not getting high EVA on any Fighter. You are significantly less tanky and you get more damage. The tradeoff is fair IMO.>Fighters are the king of Auto.>Sam still out scales them if you just burn SP with Bamboo and Shiou's Unique skill.>Ninja still gets a bajillion EVA and are immune to all damage that isn't un dodgeable.>Knights are still better tanks if you need some one to cover your squishy glass cannons. Or shield nukes.Outside of the outliers that people posted of the scaling hitting ridiculous levels like 40k hits, it's fine.
big number FPS is coolbut when my Olive elf deals 2k damage with basic attacks (follow-up + two sureties), I smile and feel happy
>>539631979>we have one build that is so owerpowered it deals 5000% more damage over other builds>so we have to add physical immunityNever work in gamedev
>>539632017>With no shield you are not getting high EVA on any FighterIf only EVA was meaningful these days lmao>all damage that isn't un dodgeableSo all damage in latest caves
>>539631774They shouldn't have been bad for a while now unless people are just not trying or you're talking about Good/True End which can be obtuse if you aren't using a guide, Doll isn't hard anymore>>539631979That's retarded pardon my french, the numbers are still way out of line now>>539632017>With no shield you are not getting high EVA on any FighterUh yeah you are, wear cloth shoes, my bozos are all around 160 w/o shield
>>539614309>too hard to buildGwigger didn't farm sabers. Everyone laugh at him.
>>539632249>Wear cloth-Yah no. I'm not dropping below 300 DEF on a frontliner.
>>539632371>caring about a dump stat, everngmi
>>539632249>They shouldn't have been bad for a while nowWhat changed then?I haven't played in about 3 months.
>>539621112>It's all meme advice because there's no real reason to pull for anyoneany vids with superboss clears using unnamed adventurers?
Okay, JD. So... legendary Fighter/Thief fracking when?
>>539632438I did see one with morgus
>>539632429Massive powercreep+a lot of anti-charm gear but it's just for bad ending
>>539632498I am asking massive powercreep from whatIf I started playing again now, what and where would I need to farm to clear abyss 3 easily?
>>539632438There's a Morgus one with generics somewhere>>539632438Sam + new caves = triple the damage potential, and Doll lacks HP
>>539632438>>539632475Here it is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsNN6o2rMF
>>539632602uhhhhh
>>539632557You'd farm Arna's asshole for anti-charm gear + 4* Ebon and ninja cave for ~3* samurai swords>>539632669The jews did this
>>539632669whoops cut off too much of the url.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsNN6o2rMF0
>>539632557>massive powercreep from whatLegendary character abilities, and new samurai class, and then 2h buffs yesterday>If I started playing again now, what and where would I need to farm to clear abyss 3 easily?If 2h unnerfed, you just play 4 fighters+2 priests and kill the doll before it even gets it's turnIf 2h nerfed, you reroll for Bugen+Sheli, and he clears the game for you
>>539632725how does he have all those lv3 skills without rolling? did some events give madios and latumfosis books?
>>539632863I have Sheli, but who the hell is Bugen?
>>539632867>madios and latumfosisEat your Emil and Marianne?
>>539632943Strongest weeb
>>539632991ok fine I guess you can mausoleum them so it's not rolling
>>539632863>>539633014samurai still deal more damage than fighters/turnand bugen has HP+ATK disciplineso if anything the new 2H buffs only fucked Shiou over
waiting for a livana alt so I can fix her cursed 80 fort.
>>539633291>samurai still deal more damage than fighters/turn
>>539633291>samurai still deal more damage than fighters/turnGwo...
>>539614309i have old saber and she was fine
>>539633445That's 2000$ dollars worth of damage.
>>539633445It's finally Livana's time.https://files.catbox.moe/aehmxq.jpg
>>539633579swo?
>>539633014Guess I gotta roll for one of the new dudes and hope I get him then?Which one would be better, new priest or the lion?
>>539633291>samurai still deal more damage than fighters/turnahahahahaha
>>539633445>over 700 hpanon plsthis is f2p teritory
>>539633692>Guess I gotta roll for one of the new dudes and hope I get him then?anon I...
>>539633707>needs 2 turns to charge>deals the same damage as bamboo splitter??????
>>539633783Is Bugen a legendary? Didn't look like it...I thought he was like Kiriha.
>>539633859why would you roll bricks instead of Sheli
>>539633859regular like Kiriha
>>539633895I said I already have Sheli...But if they are that bad, then I could go for a Sheli dupe I guess
dont look samuraibabies
>>539633992then just save for anni, not like you could make Bugen useable in 2 weeks with how shit kat drops are
>>539633992>rolling before anniDon't do this, just go pick up some Ebon 2Hs
>>539634092I want a pool cue weapon.
>>539634106>>539634119Oh yeah, I completely forgot one year anni is almost up.
based
>>539634765>find unicorn>kill it
>>539634765Evilness is a spectrum>I will wear this crown to save my realm>I was sold as a slave and have trust issue>I was kidnapped as a child and trained to be a killerTo>I poisoned my parents and commit mass murder for my god>Domestic violence
>>539635302unicorn horns are great for fertility
>>539635302hnyessss *falls over*hmyneowmyneowNYONTENT?
2-hand nerf isn't needed because of samurai (they still outdps fighters + they can abuse elemental weakness) or shields, its because it kills off non-attack scaling damage on future characters.Who the fuck is going to roll for anything that isn't abusing a weapon scaling skill with 2 hander? It'd kill all motivation to roll new characters.
>>539635996>me = tiger>you = old airbed
>>539636115>Who the fuck is going to roll for anything that isn't abusing a weapon scaling skill with 2 hander? anyone that isn't a metanigger
>>539636115>they still outdps fightersThey aren't, post 7k damage bamboo 1>they can abuse elemental weaknessExcept it doesn't work like that, play the game>samurais don't have light/dark element fusion>some enemies don't have any element and has to be hit with type weakness(demon/undead/beasts)>you can find anti-type 2H, but there are no anti-type katanas
i am going to rollon your bedand leave my fur on your freshly washed sheetsthen i will take a shit inside your favorite vasethen i will proceed to lick my paws and take a well deserved napmeow
>>539636410FPS is 2 turns, bamboo splitter can be used every turn after stance.
>>539636534you do realize samurai are taking increased damage while in stance right?i dont give a shit if FPS takes time to charge if i can deal the same damage at least i wont die lmao
>>539636534And bamboo can't hit backlineAnd dps per sp is still lowerAnd bamboo stance makes you take increased damage
Alice is the only legend adventurer left from launch without quest right? I guess we get it near anniversary and then they start rolling some for the post launch characters for year 2, but will it be in order or random... I really want to see some of them alreadyI am actually kind of excited to see what next month brings.
>>539636445calm down furball, no need to behave like sea monkey>>539636634just bring knight and cover samurai ass
>>539636769>just bring knight and cover samurai assor i could just bring 2 fighters instead of 1 knight+1 samurai and deal double the damage?
>>539636872sure, bring whatever you like, like I dodunno why you raging like that, did samurai slaughtered your family at nanking or what?
I will bring 6 knights
Waiting for generic Sam so I can run all Sam and Nin
>>539636984>actually, samurais are still better than fighters>gets proven wrong>just bring whatever you likelmao
>>539637208you can already do that, Bugen, Samkot, Rinne, MC, Human-Nin, Kiriha
>>539637107only six?but honestly, now it would be viable especially if they have good choice of support classes>>539637249you didn't prove anything, and I wasn't even the og anon you talked to
>>539637292I was thinking 3 of each class, but yeah Masketto can be ninjer now I skipped Rinne
So whats the meta now for Fighters? Someone show me the Chloe build
>>539637458fighter/thief with a spear
>>539634765Peak female fantasy.
>>539637560>>539637458spear if backline axe if frontline
>>539638006retard
Did the update change samurai stance attacks? I think my shiou is now getting follow up attacks on it.
I noticed Astral Break was doing slightly more damage, so I decided to swap his dagger to a good bow and see how much more damage it doesThis is at 390 attack power, Astral Break at level 1.
>>539638483bricked
>>539638006What skill do you use for thieves with two-handers?
>>539639259heavy attack 3
>80 fort>IQ boonwhat do I even do with this
>>539640295so whats the deal with the half boner body? dont tell me thats part of his wife...
>>539640295Feed him to your mage.
>>539640650>deals damage and heals based on PIEi dont think thats very useful on a mage gwo...
>>539640448if that's his wife's bones...does he masturbate with his right hand or recieve a handjob?
raffaello looks like THIS??
Thinking about it, if you give 5 7PIE bondmates to Raf, it will increase his skill damage by 350. By 250 if it's 5 5PIE bondmatesOverall scaling is not so bad, if he was released in first half of the year instead of second half.Obviouslly needs pie boon 10 points to make most of it, much more than any other character in the game
>>539641989bondmates only give stats once swo you cant stack em
So Chloe good now?
>>539643019Always was (for my dick)
>>539643019Chloe was always the goodest.
>>539643509wtf chloe is a vile trap????
>>539643616
>drecom giving out masketto fans at tgs
>>539644258evil female elf with a fan for anni confirmed
So are Gerulf, Livana, and Aboris all buffed from the two-handed weapon buff?
>still no nerfsamurai lostfighter won
Imagine if Livana thief cc...
You must NOT inherit Raffaelo's skill onto someone else
>>539645016wtf, that's like 1/10 of his heal
Its so kind of JD to give us so many skip banners before anni
>you can zoom out too far on the map, which will make dungeons like ninjer cave disappear Bravo Drecom
>>539645668can't wait until the anni is a skip banner too
>>539645825It's intended to not clutter the mapWhat Drecom doesn't realizes, is that the play has to grind exact same dungeon->you have to rezoom after resting in tavernNot a problem for botters though
So I am doing second run of the ninja cave to not blow up this time, going the optimal path. But the game said I should clear ninjas now that I know their locations. But I skipped the other group on the first floor, only killed the one that was on my way through the optimal route and then ambush cutscene killed the second. Thats not going to fuck me over and give me the back ending again right? I already got to the boss door...
>>539646176the right path is the one that has you end up on the upper side of the boss room
Alt Olive is the banner I'm looking forward to.
>>539646273Yeah I was just afraid because of what lulu said that I should clear the ninjas and one of the groups on floor 1 is in the opposite direction and if I should have detoured there to kill them before I enter the optimal route and on the right boss door
Lulu would never mislead you.
Lana backwards is anal
>>539646610
LADY ELMON NYOOOOOOOOOOOO
ELMON is LEMON backwards
Hey guys i've finally leveled up my ninja wife to level 60! What weapon should i give her? 2 Expulsion daggers? 1 Expulsion dagger with 1 Corrosion daggers? Or should i give her 2 Kunai and put her in the back lane? (I don't have kunais) Are ninja swords better than 2 daggers for ninjas or does a regular 1H sword beat everything above?
>>539648284most based masketto itt and just give her daggers if you want her to do "some" damage, kunai requires way more investment to get to the same point as the daggers with the only benefit of being ranged so you can have her in the backrow and not have to farm for too much eva/giving the frontline spot to a fighter but if you are up to the grind go ahead, forget about ninja swords though
>>539648284daggers do shit damagekunais do shit damageninja swords do shit damage1h sword without anything does shit damagei hope that helps
>>5396487502 Daggers, got it. Is corrosion dagger worth it or should i just give her 2 ebonsteel-tier daggers?Any suggestions for bondmates and inherits?
>>539632249>people are just not tryingThat’s 90% of the gacha game audience.If they can’t auto complete it in 5 minutes of daily play they just don’t do it.FGO has been trying to come up with ways to incentivize, bribe, and twist the arm of its player base to keep up to date with the story for a decade and barely any of it works.
why are you shilling the brick that is EVAif you use 2 handers with high ASPD you will never be getting hit because you kill everything on turn 1as for superbosses evasion is useless anyway
>>539649284>FGO has been trying to come up with ways to incentivize, bribe, and twist the arm of its player base to keep up to date with the story for a decade and barely any of it works.maybe if the bosses didn't have multiple 500k+ healthbars and have cancer mechanics that expect you to have meta shit like castoria people would enjoy the gameplay more
>>539649010>corrosion dagger worth itMore a hassle than goodIt triggers not that often(it was nerfed, before both hands could trigger it, not anymore), so you can't directly setup for it, it doesn't increase damage that much(it's flat def reduction, so flat damage increase), since debuffs slots are limited to 3, you will either run with 2 debuffs most of the time, or will risk overwriting debuffI initially had plans for multi attack build for Kiriha, with 3 def reduction stacking(armor break, corrosion, morlis) but damage is shit and it's just not worth itAlso as a junk it's rare. You legit would have trouble to +15 it, not even talking about +20But in general ninjas are in bad spot right now. Skills are shit, damage is shit, gimmick is shit, needs lvl70 skills to unbrick them
Decided to finally try to slog through Guarda and I'm really wondering where am I even supposen to get my explusion weapons because nothing is dropping in Guarda proper.Is it seriously just grinding the gorgons over and over again...
Armor pierce is better than heavy attack.
>>539650256The 20 hour dispatch that unlocks early on drops a lot of junk.Really, you should aim to have at least one 20 hour junk and gold dispatch running at all times, it helps immensely to gradually and passively acquire gear, gold, and treasure.
>>539650256why do you need expulsion weapons
>>539649691i see.... thanks
>>539650476Ebonsteel tier, that is much easier to get, that is also useful against skeletons
>>539650256Undeads drop them I think, but the rate was very ass. All worth it to dab on negrocore though.Back when I did it we had old Marianne mission, so I was doing a proper trip from 1F to 3F everyday for a week straight to get enough expulsion weapons for my dudes.
>>539650632ebonsteel is already pretty easy to get in arna's cave tho
>>539650256you dont need explusion gear especially now when you can hit undead with 2h weapons so fucking hard they turn into a pile of dust instantly
>>539648284>48 strength dear god. . .
the only reasons your sam should not be outdamaging your fighters are if you1. can't be arsed to grind 10 years for a minimum of 9 ebon katanas in ninja cave2. you didn't give them way of the warrior
>sam scales (atk+mag)*0.65>fighter scales atk*2lmaoooooooo
>>539654585But gwo they take more 2 tap damage but not still enough to 1 tap them or make any real functional difference except against the attacks that were already going to 1tap everyone without 700 HP??????
drecum will give daggers damage boost based on the user's speed TRVST
>>539654585If your sam can outdmg you fighter you have shit fighter
>>539655961TRVKE
Uuuuuh give me some tags with some uuuuuuuuug mmmmh hold on, what do you want lulu? Oh I see, okay give me some tags with a side of iarumas an ainiggi keychains plus uuuuuuh mmmmhmm uuuuuuuuh... what do you think lulu? Alright, your wish is my command, dear. Ok, we decided, scrap all of the above and give us a serving of bnnuy candles with 11 and a lulu stand, for drinks give me cyclops panty juice served in the wizardry mug, thank you.
>>539656216wow wizardry bath powder
Why are (we) so short…
abenis
>>539657869it's the pose, he's like half crouched
HOTFIX OUTno it's not 2h nerf>nerfing sword of promises was higher priority for drecomlmao
Rinne thief havers, nin skills with bow or thief skills?HA 3 is not an option. I already built up the skill that Kahri boosts and have some fodder thieves that can be used to level some of those skills.
>>539658948Yeah because if they nerf 2H now that means they’ll need to give out more castle gibs and reset it again.
>>539660213They already fixed Lana 21% buff though
>instead everything turning purple when the graphics bug out, now everything turns red and starts flashing since the updateIs this progress?
Rinne's best attack is her signature with a bow.
https://x.com/MA5lrduKlI77832/status/1968870458075349278Imagine luckshitting a 5 star item only to minimum roll the enhancement roll anyway.
wizg laughed at me before for using fighters with bows backrow... who is laughing now...
What is better to give to a thief w/o fighter CC?Heavy attack or Decisive Torso Strike? I have enough dupes to take HA to level 2 and DTS to level 3.
>Enemy Abenises can just instantly delete you if you don’t have your own Faster Abenis to delete first>if the enemy has multiple Abenis inherits it’s over before it even beganGwos I don’t think this is very fair or balanced…
>>539664113just inherit knights passive to everyone and hope it procs gwo
>>539664113>my Abenius attacks clone masked man>he counter attacks>use Shelirionach to wipe out his team for hurting my wifeMost of the fights are who can pull out a nuke first.
>>539656216I ordered the Chloe bath water and they sent me an empty cup...
>All the 'nerf please' really was samurai shittersI knew it.
>>539665951sorry it was me i drank it
>>539666109Just because you’re hearing voices in your head doesn’t mean we want to hear about it.
>>539666198Anon that's called a thought. Hard concept to grasp im sure.
>>539626790with western comic sfx effects. not even worth pirating just to constantly see "kaboow" and "baguush" and "rumble!" on my screen.
this guy has more money sitting on his wizardry account than you have on your bank account
>>539666668>KLANG>SCHING>KA-KLONK>THUMPkek...what the fuck were they thinking
>>539666867i love the sovless names these whales give their adventurers
>>539666867mm, he looks so happy. money really buys you happiness.
>>539666867JD?
>>539666867>600k jims>buying the $100 pack 100 times>$10kholy shit you're right
cant believe literally the only 5 ojisans left playing this game in jp are fully funding the game
>>539666867This game just can't die
>>539666867People weren't joking when they said Wizardry is an old man game.
I will roll broom girl with my free bone today
>>539668350i believe in you
>>539649284But they got past Abyss 2 Arena, Abyss 3 Bad End isn't much worseThen again I bet there are some people who just can't dodge the FOEs on the final stretch or don't even realize that you can
>>539667393this was posted last thread, its probably even more than that gwo
Where are they going?
>>539666867i wonder what he does for a living. maybe some CEO
good free bones
>>539671678i'm looking for an olive that has an IQ boon on her thief
>>539645194Yeah it's bad.According to people who have him, he does 10 damage per PIE, then heals for 40% of damage dealt. So with 100 pie from his discipline and gacha gear, you'd be looking at 1000 damage, heal for 400 per enemy hit, before applying MDEF.If inherited, it drops to 6 damage per PIE, and heals for 16% of damage dealt. Characters will have between 30-60 PIE without IV or BP. At BEST you're looking at a pumped up Valdor with maybe 110 PIE if you have all the gacha gear and perfect stats, which would be 660 damage, 105 heal per enemy hit (316 for 3 enemies), BEFORE MDEF, which would probably cut that in half.
>>539668665Nah 1000 bones is only 33 30 packs, that's only $2500. Probably closer to $2400 since you'd buy all the cheaper one-time bundles first.
>>539672219sorry i should say non-priest characters have between 30-60 pie. a priest is going to have like 50-80.
>got THREE gear drops today that were actual upgrades compared to my old stufftoday was a good grind day, except they still need boost stones. I run out of def/atk/ack ones for refining
I’ll eat the bonermancer if I roll him with free bones regardless.There’s only enough room for one smelly partially undead adventurer with something on his face around here.
>>539672712surely you can get them from the exchange with how high the extract fail rate is
>>539666867he prob has more on his acc than I will earn my entire life
>>539672994Those ones are only second best rate tho right? But yeah I forgot they added that
>>539672984>smelly partially undead adventurer with something on his facewith a devoted dead wife*
>>539673496>with a devoted dead wife*yeah we have Lulu
Lulu is end game
>bought the 30 bone pack>it was accidentally Raffaello's not sheli's>pulled him 3 timesNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS FUCKING BRICK ATE UP ALL MY LUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>539674240https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awgvpbW5G1Q
>emil from free legendary bonei'm tired of the homo pill
>>539674240Boned
>>539674758Have you tried being lucky and not being unlucky?
...alchemy, devoting all his time and thought to its mysteries. At first, he used remnants left behind in the punishment chamber-Evelyn's blood, hair, torn nails-attempting to resurrect her, but every experiment ended in failure. Next, he added corpses stolen from the Grand Temple to his material components, but once again, Evelyn did not return. Eventually, the priests discovered the stolen bodies, and Raffaello's misdeeds became known to all. The trust he once shared with the faithful crumbled, yet Raffaello no longer cared. Having cast aside all semblance of propriety, he was driven from the temple as a heretical sinner.On the run, Raffaello slaughtered those pursuers sent to capture him. Then, kneeling in their blood, he thanked his God for granting such useful materials for transmutation.In pursuit of even-higher forms of alchemy, he hunted down mages; he killed them for their knowledge and spellcraft. He experimented with every dark art at his disposal, even putting his life in danger by carving away parts of his own body for materials, but Evelyn was not brought back to life. His cries of despair echoed beneath a lead-tone sky-raw and utterly alone.
Gwos... I'm thinking Rafaello is not a very good person...
got him from the free bone too I CANT FUCKING BELIEVE THIS SHITim going to fucking kill someone and its not going to be me
>>539675553I don’t think alchemists are very good people in general going by the ones we’ve met…
>>539675623heh
what are we expecting for anni in 2 weeks?
>>5396762092h nerfs
>>539676209Isnt the anniversary closer to the middle of next month? They are always slow on announcements so I dont expect them to start talking about it until like day before
>>539676209Good human fire fighter.
>>539676209Garbage (boy (male))Anniversary pack (only $69.99)
>>539675553>Raffaello resurrected Evelyn, who had died from his punishments, and whenever she broke his teachings, he repeated the punishments until she died yet again. To Raffaello, these were trials meant to lead his wife onto the righteous path. But then it happened: resurrection did not occur, and Evelyn's body crumbled to ash. >Raffaello was overcome with sorrow from the depths of his heart, and he rapidly wasted away. With tears in his eyes, he told the others that she was a brave woman who had succumbed to a long and tragic illness. I dunno gwo he sounds just like us.
>>539676427[Great Value!]
if you used 2h in old castle you didnt win
>>539676490Man I'm glad this guy sucks ass because this is exactly the thing pajeets on 4chan will shitpost over and over and fucking over for years.
>>539676209Level cap increaseMages get a 60+ trait to recast spells.Legendary Fighter with Gacha 3 hit 2H Sword with damage reflection trait on itNinja nerfsSamurai get Light/Dark enhancePriest get a Regen spell that triggers and end of units turn (will trgger at end of fights)Thief gets its first DPS skill in Advanced Sneak AttackKniggers get damage reduction based on def trait
>>539675283this is why your not supposed to drink relic brew
>>539676661I used it and still couldn't beat it
>>539676490Rafaello then ran to reddit, furious, screeching about how the game was bad because he permakilled his waifu.
>>53967634110/7/24 god dam time flies. Launch was a fun mess.
>>539676852>Ninja nerfskeked
>>539677574>10/7/24fuck I missed anni by 2 months
skill issue maybe raf should have waited until his wife's fort was above 51 before cutting her limbs off
>start wizzy>alt+enter>alt+enteroh yeah it's gamin time
The guy should have eaten his wife, like Alice and Agora. Skill issue desu.
the guy should have fucked his wife instead of being a weird creepy incel
Angry kot countersttack!Got usual nothing from free banner bones but at last I am not the that guy who bought wrong packs. I dont think i ever got any legendary from free banner bones.
>>539675623Congrats on your Discipline 2 evil bone priest
>>539675553I mean yeah he's Evil
But was Evelyn hot...?
>>539677885This
Absolute mogging.
>>539678704imagine being a manlet amongst manlets
Why couldn't it have been Sheli?
>>539678827wrong banner gwo, that's why
they will buff raffaelloat least make his inherit good jesus christ why the fuck is he such a brick
>>539678956We got free bones from both banners today. My Sheli bone gave me another Chloe.
>>539679070Because we're two weeks away from anniversary and you're not actually supposed to pull for him. He's an intentional skip banner.
>>539679071>My Sheli bone gave me another ChloeLucky son of bitch.
>>539679070shouldnt have bought the wrong bones
Raffaello? CringeJarmil? Based
I haven't played since the collab. Are these special missions how I unlock the ninja cave? I unlocked Garuda but haven't killed an enemy in there yet, so mostly wondering where to farm junk rn? I see posts about the ninja caves I guess and just Garuda itself? No dispatches available yet.
>>539679517If you beat the first midboss of Guarda, about 1/3rd a way in, you will unlock a quest from Arna that's pretty good for farming.But if you have trouble with Guarda you can continue farming elsewhere.
>>539679517Yeah Paulownia Box Recovery is the one; the Ninja cave's name is Sand Shadow Cave; it's kind of difficult to finish, but you could start grinding it a bit (especially as you could pick up the cursed dolls quest from the capital for some fat experience).
>>539679472This. He started at silver rank.
>>539679517Fordraig is permanent now too so you could go there if you want very easy fights and quantity of good steel junk, until you unlock Arna's asshole for ebon-tier
>>539679472I use both
Rafaello is pretty cool, but I already have dualclassed Alice, Adam and Yekaterina with cool discplines and inherits, and maybe I'll find Sheli's priest book some day.The game system is really fucking weird when you're a f2poor, new characters are not exciting at all. SAD!
Ma always said not to touch my junk all day... I didn't listen...
2 gorgons in a cave just 1 shot me sup with that?
I actually don't hate the shitty drops from castle, I need some beastskin loot for unifying and have no idea how to get them.
>>539680378Was it the cave where they specifically tell you not to go in a direction where the gorgons will one shot you?
>>539680496it's the Elmon quest. Lulu said they have shiny fur it's a stationary monster
>>539680367I probably have that much tooI wonder how much more powerful my team would be if I could be assed to go through everything
>>539680591Confuse them and take your naked mage MC out of the front row then
>>539680591You can actually kill the roaming versions too for the loot (need 3) and its much easier. Still bitch of a fight tho if it spams stone
>>539680591just skip bricken and go to arna's to get ebinsteel weps to +15 or purp gowns
>>539681257will do thanks
>>539680648Same, but I don’t have the patience to extract that much 10 at a time.
cant wait for the christmas alice style
>>539683753Santagora.
>>539681953A double tap center, tap bottom center, wait 3.5 seconds macro is a wondrous thing
I ran out of cursed dolls
>>539679472So is no one going to point out that's literally the new released character
>>539681953Use Space, the default position can be pressed with it. You can even use scroll wheel to do other stuff, as long as the focus isn't lost
He’s literally me.
>>539685130lol you're gay
>>539685130implying a wiz player could get a wife
>>539685130Why did you dye your hair
>>539685130Post wife
what the fuck is wrong with them milkdrinkers...
>>539685574He's the closest thing to a christcuck you can have in this game. What's his reaction to getting absolutely shitfaced?
>>539685713christcucks don't murder their wife usually tho
>>539613342just cause of range?
>>539685130how can he live without organs
I just ate 4 Mariannes
I have grinded like 100 trash from the ninja place but havent seen the boots drop even once and the store bought ones only come 1* white...
