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SteamFrame announcement pushed to 2026
>>539603223So, I take it better save up some more and get a completely new VR headset on the holidays.
>>539603391source?
>>539603223SIGNUP SHEET FOR THE TED TALK EVENThttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RViyaZ3S7MWUP5EixE9jGpVpgMHB51SItKNMdVPNYnM/edit?gid=311795384#gid=311795384remember you only get 15 minutes for your presentation. I WILL ACCEPT LAST MINUTE SUBMISSIONS.SEPTEMBER 20th19:00 UTC for EU9:00 PM EST for NAREAD PLEASE>how do I powerpoint1. make your powerpoint in either google slides or microsoft powerpoint pirated or not2. save your powerpoint to PDF file type3. google "convert PDF to video" or similar keywords to convert your presentation to an MP44. upload your video powerpoint to YoutubeEssentially the powerpoint presentation prefab in the world lets you click between the individual frames of the video like a powerpoint (hahaha) but you can also play regular videos on the prefab as well.I hope this clarifies some things.
>>539603715Yeah new Quest 3 discounted during holidays is best imo
>>539603391I couldn't care less until we get some proper info. It's been too damn long.
>>539603087let me guess, is the one where the guy is selling it with the rubber protections and bobovr, right?go for it
>>539604824This is the OQ2 in question.
>>539604930You're going to need to buy a proper head strap, so factor that into your pricing decisions. Since the quest 2 is last gen now, hopefully they should be at a good discount.
>>539604440>eu: diet and exercise, complex topics, old internet memes>na: surface level politics and lgbt hateare NA people allowed to sign up for an EU timeslot?
>>539605035I think I better wait a bit longer 'till holidays.at the moment we are in the middle of an election period with fucks up the whole economy, so maybe by that time everything is more settled.Is the Meta Quest 3 and Beyond 2 the only one that excel in the market?
>>539605113yes
anyone know of a 3d model similar to the meta glasses?
>>539605251elecciones = sube dolarbeyond 2 is an overpriced meme, remember that it comes with no controllers or base stations, and quest 3 or any meta headset you buy it is highly recommendable that you buy a battery pack / strap.check the rentry if you want more info: https://rentry.org/vrgheadsets
How many early adopters glasses would a Luddite have to yank and stomp on it order to make the new meta glasses fail?
>>539605954Given that the last pair failed and they're muddying the waters by releasing two models at once it would be a miracle if they succeeded so the answer is zero.
>>539605707Yeah I was just checking their website, it doesn't even comes with the sensors for tracking.My main objective with the Quest 3 would be using it as an extra display for my PC, that would be quite a trip.
So- best high end standalone VR headset (1500-2500 $) is>Pimax Dream Airor>Play for Dream?Is PimaxDream Air even a standalone? Did PfD fix gasket?
Sushi ben is actually fun! Best performing and the most stylish looking Unreal Engine VR game. The 3D manga panels really add to atmosphere and look quite cool. Japanese voice actors did a really good job. It's mostly dialog based adventure game and I just only started getting mini games, but it's cute, funny and enjoyable.
>>539606843Dream Air is only standalone if they deliver on the random Puck idea they mentioned lol
>>539606843For standalone headsets, you ought to wait. In a week or so snapdragon is announcing more chips.
>>539606945AND the landlady is very nice!Btw, npcs which walk with you match your speed properly
>>539606982so nope lolSo that leaves PfD as only current high end standalone?>>539607085Yeah, but then months for a headset release.Maybe that Asus Meta cuckheadset they will combo doI found good battery and face gasket for PfD, which should fix all shit for it. Idk, kinda wanna order. Or wait Asus? I'd like to have one in the next few months
>>539607238>So that leaves PfD as only current high end standalone?there's always Apple Vision Pro with PSVR2 controllers :^)
>>539607289Yeah, if money really is no issue, then there should be a m5 revision coming out before the end of the year. And there's Samsung also coming out with a headset in October which ships with controllers.
>>539605113> lgbt hateThey're pretty funny titles anon. I don't want to be rude but have you considered returning to reddit?
>>539603223update our divegrass logo to the newest one pls
>>539607665with stars in the middle? Sure thing!
anyone ever stim on these?https://rebocap.com/$200 for 15 trackers that last 30 hours and are SteamVR compatible
>>539607742ya each star on a team's logo represents a cup win
>>539607625I still remember when it wasn't gay unless the balls were touching
The current VR "happening" slate:>Snapdragon event September 23> Samsung event for Project Moohan October 21st, selling immediately after>October Apple event >All BSB2s sent out before the end of the year
>>539607238>So that leaves PfD as only current high end standalone?Pico 4 Ultra
is NSFW GoGoLoco any good? I can't really tell without a demo.
>>539608065That's kind of hot though, it's only gay if you're bottoming. Frotting is pretty straight
i rly need a headpat to fall asleep ngl.
>>539605251I'd go Quest 3 after things settle down or try to haggle that guy down some on the Quest 2 price and save up for an upgrade later whenever something new finally comes out.>>539606161If you mainly want it as an external display though, I'd probably avoid the Quest 2 or even 3S. Clarity is a lot better on the 3, and that helps a lot for reading text. Even with that, I never really found it to be something I liked enough to use over an actual monitor though.There are some "AR" glasses with displays that might be good if that's all you really want it for, but I don't really know much about those.
>>539609654You're a grown man.
>>539609654put a headpat slut banner above your head and go to a cuddle world
>>539609654I can help you with that.
Hi
Walkabout Mini Golf lobby is up, room code is VRG
My Quest Pro face tracking broke due to sweat, just bought a Vive Focus Vision. I know the lenses are worse but can't justify buying another 4 year old headset which already broke on me. What am I in for focus chads?
Thursday PyPy is up,room code is https://vrch.at/zphmyz8m
>>5396111295/8
>>539611129>>5396114456/8 Venice
>>539605113you can show up at any time you want, this isn't arstotzka lmao.
>>539611275display port connectivithy, very sharp image in the middle of the lens, shit at the periphery, low fov due to eyetracker requiring a lot of distance between eyes and hmd lens (the lens can have quite high fov, but you need to come very close). Slightly jank but functional software, top of the line face tracking.
>>539611275>just bought a Vive Focus Visionoh no
Does Virtual Desktop not go on sale often?Got my Quest almost 2 months ago and I've yet to see the price drop a single cent.
>>539612301It will go down the day Valve announces the Deckard.
>>539606945>>539607108played the demo, I think the second time is going to be my last because it doesn't seem to save progress and I had to quit because back pain. The game had me fish, sit through a boring conversation listening to a bad mediocre actress, then fish again. Also it appears not all dialogue is voiced or mine broke, which was jarring. Is this some kind of visual novel? I think you're expected to sit down when you play this. The music isn't good. And it sounds like you'll be hearing the town theme most of the game. I don't think I can pick this one up.Great looking game though, a lot of work goes into those 3d comic panels. Hopefully the game is better than the demo, but demos usually show your best cards.
>>539612301Steam VR Link, ALVR, and WiVRn are free :)
>>539612301Just use steamlink with xs overlay
Do you guys use VR in the bathroom while taking a shit?What's the experience?
>>539614108i do it's chill
>>539613467Yeah but the quality on VD seemed higher when I gave it a try :/>>539613674>xs overlaywhat that?
Will Zuck cancel quest 4?
>>539614570What do you normally do with it?Scrolling socials, watching content, porn, gaming?
>>539614108i play vrchat, nobody knows i am shitting.
>>5396147582027, no. They've spent too much time working on the AI generation systems.
>>539614945Please don't shit when you're talking to me friend
>>539615037wrong anon>>539614862
>>539614862Do you disconnect from your body when using it? I use the phone on the toilet untill my legs stop working, I fear the day a clot is formed and I die or I suffer a stroke.I'd imagine it's far worse with VR.
>>539615205no i have quest pro and vive ultimate trackers, i am unbound by the need to be in a specific room
>>539615317I know who this anon is
>>539615513hello :p
I finally have some free time, what do I do? World hop and not talk to anyone like usual?
>>539617306it's what I'm doing
>>539617306I was hopping public worlds. I went up to a group of people and they asked to to go away :(
>>539618093Damn that's mean. You wanna post your instance?>>539617726My only issue with it is that I wanna take my girl avatars for a spin, but it feels very wrong being an anime girl around a bunch of 9 year old boys in military avatars. I wonder if I should just use normoid avatars in public worlds to fit in better
>>539611129Good golfing golfersGot unlucky on a couple holes, but better luck next time I guess.>>539611721RIP to the anons that died along the way
>>539604440who do I dm with questions? I'm new to this and i dont have anything prepared yet
>>539618350>around a bunch of 9 year old boysAs someone who only goes to jp instances, which are mostly devoid of kids, I have to wonder how can you people endure such hell.
>make a fun dead by daylight clone in VRC>delete the entire world once it gets popular>reupload it but make it locked behind a patreon codeman
>>539619760Is it cool to join jp instances if my japanese sucks? I can hold a basic conversation but it's still pretty grueling (moreso for the japanese, I imagine)> I have to wonder how can you people endure such hell.I don't, I joined a world and left immediately once I heard them and I was the lone anime girl. Kids are fucking terrifying.
What hardware do you ned for hosting?I have a Ryzen 3600G, a RX6650XT and 16GB of RAM, is that enough for 4-8 people?
>>539622009great post man
>>539611282nice week of pypyin' pypyers
>>539620694For hosting what? I can't really think of any VR game I've played where hardware mattered much for hosting as long as your PC could run it.
>>539608591It's really good I use it all the time and place it on all my recent avatars.Very easy to install
>>539607665Updooted!
>>539630715sick, thanks
>>539603391Huh? It's two weeks away, not 2 months.
>>539622457cute pypy
>project moohan was supposed to launch September 29>now delayed to October 21 because of "coordinating internal marketing strategies" Steam Frame is 100% getting announced at or shortly after the Snapdragon event on September 23(maybe it was even supposed to launch September 29 since Valve likes to be cheeky like that).
>>539634341
How does the Quest 3 responds to you looking down at your own dick while stroking it?
>>539635524DO you have hand tracking on?
>>539635669I don't have a headset, but I'm curious.Does it gets censored, being naked while using the pass-through gets you in any sort of trouble?
>>539635857no trouble
>>539635524the front cameras have a very wide horizontal FOV but a pretty narrow vertical FOV so you'd have to really be bending over to see yourself>being naked while using the pass-through gets you in any sort of troubleit's all on-device. I don't think even the zucc could get away with live streaming video footage like that, given the median age of the quest user
>>539635942thanks jackie chan i love you~
>>539636490>given the median age of the quest userOh shi--- you got a point there.
>>539636490>I don't think even the zucc could get away with live streaming video footage like that, given the median age of the quest user@grok can i get an early life history cross-reference of mossad asset epstein and mossad asset zuccerberg
Friday Night magic today at 22:00 CEST (9pm UTC+1)Come and play Magic in VRChat! 3 tables today so more people can play!
>>539620176Yes, a long as it's not one of those you have to answer questions to get in, since you're expected to know how to speak in those.A lot of Japanese people want gaijin friends to practice their English, so it's easy to get along with them.
>>539607289>>539607529Apple products are for idiots. PSVR2, controller or full are a joke.Samsung might be a good option, depending on quality.>>539608480Not really a high end...Barely more (if that even) that Meta Q 3I'll order PfD and wait to see what drops till end of year, then resell if something better.
>>539635524it recognizes your dick as a third hand and starts tracking that as well
>>539640327https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=8aL1JxO3T&h2=AFrYs9TCpI mean, it beats apple shit for sure. And is cheaper. Unless you're a brainwashed moron, you would not buy apple.
>>539638968cool
>>539635524measures length and grith, sends it to meta server, then server decides whether you're a target audience for penis enlargement pill ads, or maybe you're better off with hot singles in your area instead
>>539635524If you wish for real answer:It does not respond in any way (that is shown to you).Meta DOES use snippets and data from ALL sensors that exist in Meta Quests and uses them for many purposes like:>AI training>data analysis>AD service>government/police assistance>software/hardware R&D and updates>probably moreSo you looking at your dick is definitely used in some way by meta.
>>539640327>>539640612>the chinky is at it againsorry, shilly, the apple is objectively the best hardware AND softwarenobody is buying your barely working bootleg crap, especially for $2k
>>539643212Well, I do intend on watching porn while setting up pictures on 1:1 scale of my waifus as If I'm being watched.
>>539643370based
>>539643250AVP has horrible smearing, promotes walled gardens, is super fucking heavy with the shittiest strap imaginable and doesnt even let you use the advertised facetracking features. Its overpriced shit
>>539646632Don't know what you're on about with regards to the strap, printed out some adapters and got one for my BSB, it's incredibly comfortable. Granted, the stock BSB strap is dogshite.
>>539647017>Super heavy headset>No top strapYea, nah
>>539648661Makes sense for it to be shit on the AVP then, I guess. For the BSB's 100-something grams it's a perfect fit.
>>539649318>No audio Dont tell me you additionally put on audiophile tier headphones on top of bsb+AVP strap, connected to bsb usb-c
>>539647017Everyone knows that Vive Deluxe Audio strap works the best for most headsets.
Does the Meta Quest 3 supports Android APKs? Has anyone tried installing summertimesaga or any other WEG in it?
>>539634341Please let go anon, this is self harm
>>539650802Thought sidequest or adb commands, after you make a developers account. Should have bought pico, there it just works through built-in file browser.
>>539646632still miles better than chinkshit you shill
>>539651026Im not that anon.Im not shilling for overpriced unknown chinese hmds, but also neither anyone should buy AVP.
>>539651231what aliens vs pretador has to do with this?
>>539606843I don't think Play For Dream is worth shit since it's way to weak to send a video stream at native panel res
>>539649995no but I have working headphones I use, might switch them out for something else at a later point
>>539650802Yeah it should work. It spawns 2D windows and you can use the vr controller or your hand to click/pinch/drag.I used tachiyomi for manga reading on mine
>>539651339AVP? Yeah, it's a bangers game. Just wanted to mention it.
>>539651339Nobody cares about your schizo naming rules
>>539649318>>539646632What aliens vs predator has to do with this?
>>539652660Oh sorry I was actually talking about ActiVision Plizzard
>>539646632>>539647017oh for reference I meant the single (solo?) knit strap or whatever they call the wide grey one
new strap is coming with vispro2 btwN1 chip is limited to 160MHz, so only 2400 Mbps, not good, not terriblethe last critical feature that is missing is eye/face access, it will make or break the second versionfingers crossed, maybe they just didn't have enough compute in the first one to provide it (coping)
>>539653185>160MHzwhy are they so gayespecially for something that's gonna be a glorified movie watching machine you'd think you'd want highest throughput possible
>>539653361broadcom are also 160but yeah, it sucks
the FCC finna steal my 6ghz bands5ghz not an option for me where I live, I get pinged and it swaps to DFS multiple times per daydream air save meI kinda like wireless thoughis there some kinda dongle or some shit that's like, not-wifi but would still be able to push at least 200mbps av1?
>>539653185>maybe they just didn't have enough compute in the first one to provide it (coping)Lmao, what a retard
>>539654312>autistic retard missed the joke>calls other retardedmany such cases
>quest 4 not happening>asus headset not happening>poohan is underpower xr2 trash>deckard is eternal 2 more weeks, outdated on release>vision pro doesn't give devs access to eye and face tracking2025 looks very sucky vr wise so far.
Did you remember to make your pirate avatar for talk like a pirate day?
>>539655019I keep saying VR is dying and people don't get it. If the deckard and quest 4 ever come out they're going to be the last generation of headsets.
>>539655882>If the deckard and quest 4 ever come out they're going to be the last generation of headsets.yeah, I don't see thatwe have at least a couple of gens in the pipeline already, as in factories are getting built
>>539655882You are wrong. Its there is no point releasing a new headset every year.
>>539655019Quest 4 is 2027, Asus is 2026, Deckard doesn't exist in any meaningful sense stop caring about it
>>539655882AR-chads rise up>meta orion gen 2>racing UI when you're in car>ad-hoc multiplayer comms, lap times, etc>watching youtube while your boss calls you a distracted retard>waiting at the dmv/court to pay multiple traffic fines and you see another dude with Orion's on>challenge him to 1v1 quake deathmatch and start running around the dmv with finger guns like a retard>shitposting 24/7
VR will get nowhere for a long time but once all the monkey game kids are grown up we'll get a VR revival. We only have to hold out for two more decades.
>>539656217>millennials grew up during the best gaming era>yet make abysmal dogshit games>zoomers are also brainfried by social media and chatgptit's going to be "vibe code some soulless slop" at best
>>539656217Monkey game kids will get a painfull shock when they switch hmd vendors and loose access to all their quest games
>>539656058They're moving into AR headsets. Chinks are going to follow the meta from Meta.
>>539656489what games?they only play f2p>>539656547nah, delusionalthe only way to make a proper AR headset is to make an awesome VR headset
>AR headset filters that turn brown people white or normalfags into anime girls
>>539657281who cares, the "insides" are still shitit's like forcing furry change the avatar, it's not going to change anything
>>539656547Meta is already fucking up the game by killing the low end the same way they did with the quest. $700 is not a reasonable price for that hardware. I have many critiques of valve, but I respect them for not ever dropping the price on the index without a replacement.
I really like the idea of AR to be honest. Projecting a virtual reality onto the real world, or filtering the real world replacing it with anything you want is awesome. >>539657582And that's my main problem with it. Meta is going to burn infinite money putting in uncompetable hardware just to lock everyone into their shitty walled garden when instead of choosing your own augmented reality, it's just an ad projection device that spies on you to project better targeted ads. Completely worthless, and a complete waste of tech.
>I really like the idea of AR to be honestI don't. What is the point of "augmenting" shitty real world, when you can create a perfect virtual world instead. Seems retarded to me.
>>539657810It's not even AR, it's literally just the AI RayBans with HUD. Same shit as the G1 glasses but to normalfags that are buying a bitch basic voice assistant integrated into brand shades it's like magic and they will keep buying it. Like it or not, the retarded smart glasses are much more popular than any VR HMD ever was and Zucc wants to capitalise on that.
>>539658515When google did it it was creepy and nerdy. When facebook does the same but with a normie brand marketing its hip and cool
normalfags don't care about that shitthey might buy for fashion, nobody cares about those meme featuresstop talking like normalfags are going to throw money at shit, they are retarded but not that retarded
there are unironic retards in this thread that want VR to become mainstream
>>539658728you don't know shit about normalfagsmy parents and all their family friends in their 60s fell for the smartwatch meme, use ai constantly to ask questions those glasses with live translation on them is gonna be a game changer for all those boomers
>>539658515it will have instagram/social media integrations allowing you to record then upload from the glasses so every social media normie will get one eventually i can see business people and adventure travellers buying thembut for everyday use for the everyday person it's not going to do very well I don't know why Valve or HTC or anyone just makes a better indexJust do everything the same but better screens, eye tracking, face tracking.You could keep the light houses exactly the samekeep the form factor exactly the samekeep the index controllers exactly the same except for thumbsticks that don't breakand you have every index user and every serious PC VR player from sim gamers to vrchat gooners buying itif they can come up with a light house that's cheaper that would be even better but it's not necessary
what worse can happen if vr becomes mainstream?we are already at the bottom, it can't get worse
>>539658894Normalshitters ruin everything they touch. VR dying completely is a better fate than going mainstream. Just look what they did to the internet.
>>539658854I showed my deaf grandma that it does "realtime" subtitles and she freaked out.she whipped out an AARP magazine that offers a similar product for $5500 that she's been considering buying...
>>539658854>smartwatch meme, use ai constantly to ask questionsyea normies did fall for those unironically but granted it's almost exclusive to apple and apple sold the world on "hey Siri" well before we had actual LLM ai so it kinda doesn't count facebook could throw this and it won't be picked up until Apple does it and then google follows just like with talking to your phones AI and smart watches
>>539658854smartwatches are different, they actually provide "value", because the phones are xboxhuge these daysglasses are going to be fashion first and foremostif normalfags were truly retarded, vision pro would be selling like hotcakes >>539659053ruin what exactly, answer the questionthere is nothing to ruin
>>539659128>there is nothing to ruinThey will make something just to ruin it.
>>539658894nothing, PC gaming is mainstream for a long time and the expected happened but we still get good games some people in this thread just like complaining and getting mad at imaginary problems
>>539659128dude you don't understand the usecase for their smartwatchessms and email notifications and showing off their pulses or some basic sync bullshit with their garmin apps to show you they totally burned 600kcals doing a 30min bike rideits all pointless garbage toys>>539659058i'm not too sure about it being critical that apple needs to offer the service for it to be succesfulthey've only got a huge market in the USA and a little bit in the UK but the rest of the EU its barren and 80% androids and mac pcs are a meme
I like playing vr games. I like hanging out with my friends in Vrchat. I like exploring what enthusiasts make in vrchat. I like making 3D content from time to time. I have been vring every day for like 8 years now and I see no reason to stop. See you in the next lobby!
>>5396587272015 is not 2025. People have gotten way desensitized to public recording over the last decade>>539659128>smartwatches provide "value"And these are basically smart watches you don't have to lift up your wrist to see. The appeal is obvious>>539658791VR will never become mainstream because it's inconvenient. Obscuring your field of vision will never be worth the tradeoffs for the vast majority of people. That's why AR has much more potential appeal.
>>539659128>if normalfags were truly retarded, vision pro would be selling like hotcakes>Introductory price >US$3,499If the vision pro was US$1,199 like the iPhone 17 Pro Max it would actually sell like hotcakes.Normalfag intelligence kicks in at certain price points but there's always a price window for everything apple makes to sell like hotcakes. Vision pro just isn't there yet.
>>539659451>Get to read sms without pulling out the phone>Useless toyYoure a cynic with a mind of a demented 90year old who yells at any new technogoly
>>539659451Apple sets the cultural tone and makes certain products not an ick to women who are the main driver of all human consumption.
>>539659128>ruin what exactly>no more VR, XR only>tied to a mandatory social media account>to acces the store you ne a ID verified store account (for age verification)>forced standalone>subscription based software you need for PCVR>sends facial tracking images to corpos in order to "learn" (and to sell your data>sends external camera recordings to corpos under the guise of "quality and safety" or some shitJust look at what normalfags willingly put up with nowadays with smart devices for a perceived convenience.
>>539659736>normiesyou know where all that (((bullshit))) comes from man c'monvalve doesn't put you through that but (((meta))) constantly tries to get away with as much of that shit as possible really makes you think
>>539659736This has nothing to do with normies and everything to do with profit and control. That ship sailed the moment Luckey sold Oculus to Facebook.
>>539659451>dude you don't understand the usecase for their smartwatches>sms and email notificationsthat's what I said, have trouble with reading comprehension? >>539659606exactly, smartwatches provide actual value for normalfags>>539659517nah, it's not the price>>539659736not a big deal, we would get much better niche headsets by someone who simply repurposes the already made components from mainsteam headsets>>539659980yep, the original sin of vr
>>539658727The branding and form factor is the only thing that makes the difference here - it's RayBans (brand recognition) and it looks like normal shades rather than some warehouse barcode reader attached to your glasses.>>539658862It already has social integration and can be used as budget DJI camera which is one of the reasons why it sells well.>and you have every index user and every serious PC VR player from sim gamers to vrchat gooners buying itSimmers never gave a fuck about Index, lighthouse tracking or motion controllers, they're the main reason Pimax and Varjo are even a thing still. Serious PCVR is market too niche to develop for on any meaningful scale and VRC gooners are ignored at best or outright hated by literally every major VR manufacturer except for HTC and Bigscreen because that's the only consumer market they have.
varjo is not a thing anymore btw
>>539659854>>539659980Yes, because when things get mainstream, companies try to force shit into it to widen the profit margin. Something they will not do when things do not hit the mainstream market.Congrats, you can connect the dots.>>539660085>not a big deal, we would get much better niche headsets by someone who simply repurposes the already made components from mainsteam headsetsI don't think I have seen this with the tech that hit mainstream.Like, what are the niche and much better smartphones? What are the niche and much better cars? The niche and much better smart controls for your home?
What's on the EU VRFPS menu tonight? Hyperdash to try out the sword update?
I just want Bobo 3 with eye/face + wifi7.
>>539660401Boba you mean? The ultra wide fov one?
>>539660291you perception is distortedyou don't know what phones would look like if they never went mainsteamanyway, phones were solved a long time age (iphone 4), cars too, from then on it's just gradual degenerationvr is not solved in any way shape or form>>539660561yeabooba 3
>>539660809The argument was that my examples don't matter because we would get better niche products.I brought smartphones and cars up because they are without a doubt mainstream, yet I don't see better niche products in that regard.If phones and cars are not working as an argument for you, tell me something that had a better niche product after something went mainstream. You must have brought it up because you have seen it somewhere.
>>539660318Yes, we HyperStab.
>Go to DJ event>Everyone standing around talking>Only one person dancing and facing the DJEvery time
>>539661113>yet I don't see better niche products in that regard.are you even looking? check out what chinkshit phones with open bootloaders can do these days and tell me you need more
>>539661350link please
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1922010/Breachers/ Breachers is 34% off
not only that but multiple people laying on the floor
>>539661405i'm not a pajeet, so I couldn't care less about phonesi just remember some vulkan devs raving about how good and powerful cheap phones these days
>>539661332Sounds like typical NA event.
>>539619291Greglomaniac
>>539661716>dude trust mewow what a surpriseSo you can not provide a single instance where tech hit mainstream all the while BETTER niche versions came out.What a great example, anon. Fuck you. Unironically mad that I again thought anon would provide anything of substance.
>>539661995i'm not going to bother spoonfeeding you common sense, sry
>>539662348because you literally can not
>>539658894>we are already at the bottomhell no, i love the current state of VR. we get a new headset every now and then, the technology keeps moving on at steady pace (years ago people would gather around to witness a dude in FBT, nowadays even face tracking is slowly becoming a standard among enthusiasts), vidya is here even though obviously we need more. And most importantly, we're still free from shitty AAAslop shaping the trends on the market: vrchat content sells like hot cakes, very janky vidya with one good gimmick can still earn enough money to justify its existence, VR-related components and unity assets are nearly as commonly recognizable as finished products. We still keep trying out something new to play every now and then, even bocce lobby of all things finds an audience. If this is "bottom", then bottom is where I belong.
how to recommend dances for pypycan anyone add one?
>>539661869Its 9am. The Americans are at work or sleeping if unemployed.
>>539662420yeah, because I can't help dumdumslearn what supply chain is and what affects it
>>539662905You are incapable of providing an example. While I was able to do and could go on.Be better.
>>539662879you just queue it up on the player
>>539663007>While I was able to do and could go on.lolin your dreams?
>>539663197Provide examples then.
oh they're making carrion vrhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/953490/view/545616987916599740
>>539663349fairphone
If I wanted to upgrade my FBT setup (currently have 3 vive 2.0 trackers), should I go Slime trackers or wait for something else? I like to dance and also wanna be comfy in FBT under a blanket.
What games did you buy?
>>539664825I was thinking about getting the vampire masquerade game but I've already got too much shit to play
>>539630715nice
>>539664825
>>539665551wait, I thought monkey game is f2p?
>>539665843only for questGODS
>>539664825Behind the frame, Sushi Ben, Gorn2 and Ghost Town
>>539665452The vampire masquerade game is dog shit tailored for mobile, aka quest, devices. I was looking forward to it when it first released and bought day one. Maybe my expectations were too high but I don't think I ever was so disappointed with a game before. It's just bland vrslop, with no dept like Saints and Sinners, but worse graphics and mechanics.
>>539666138Why are you comparing saints and sinners with a bomb defusal type dexterity game? It was marketed as that. Seems like the only retard here is you.
>>539666814I mistook it with another vampire game lol.Masquarade was a good hitman type game, you seem to have dogshit taste
>>539665843It was free on PC but the dev couldn't stop people from modding the game and cheating so he raised the price. People still mod and cheat on the Quest version but making that paid would lose even more of the playerbase than it already has due to competition from other F2P games.
>>539667835Modded gorilla lobbies were so good, especially hl2/gmod maps
interesting article comparing mobile shit (q3) against modern midrange desktop gpus: https://www.evolvebenchmark.com/blog-posts/learning-about-gpus-through-measuring-memory-bandwidthmoral of the story: kill all standalonelets
>>539669312not scrolling through all that nerd shit
>>539669312If you want standalonelets to die, then ask daddy gaben to get off his fucking ass and greenlight some games
>>539669448drooling gorilla nigger retards are not the target audience of that postmove along
>>539619765What's the author name
>>539664825Nothing, I pirate it all.I have Pico 4 Pro can play Quest 3 games with patches or there are ports, even for exclusives.Almost no VR game on PCVR have actual DRM worth mentioning.VR headsets are already expansive, no need to waste money on dying market. Even if everyone was vying 10 games a month, it would still be dying.Good place to start with piracy (pico, but also for other non meta) is herehttps://phoenixplace.xyz/ https://ppdata.uk/
Volleyball will be hosted at 21:00 CEST!That's in roughly 99 hours and 20 minutes from now.
>>539671953based ESL nigger unironicallythe devs should only make eroge and online multiplayer vr games
>>539671953>piracy>.ukokay glowie
>>539672423You are brown nigger. I am white. And English is my 5th language.>>539672503Just an information web site, nothing to download there. List of game and some information about it working or not. 100% legalUnless you have extension for adding download buttonhttps://phoenixplace.xyz/showthread.php?tid=2786&pid=3810#pid3810
>>539669312i became sexually aroused looking at this...is this normal?
>>539672940>And English is my 5th language.brownwhite esl's have english 2nd at worse
>>539673516why do you have to bring race into it?
>peak looks vr but isn't vr>goblin cleanup looks vr but isn't vryep vr is abandoned why bother
>>539673657because you are blatantly promoting unapologetic "stealing"and everyone knows which group of people are famous for it
>>539673516English being fifth means I have 4 other languages I speak better than it.My NATIVE language is not just 1 but 3: German, French and Italian. I speak them all natively.I also speak Russian better than English, but not natively. You are a some subhuman-asian species of yellow/brown monkey.
https://youtu.be/vpSIZy_VZrgI have a dream
>>539674037piracy is not stealing, failing to understand this means you are brown
>>539674416nobody asked, nigger thiefgo eat bananas
>>539674457and Pimax has a new scam to sell you.
is there any way to, i guess with a shader, have have your avatar render in a way that is or appears low res / without aa?
>>539664673With the requirement of tracking working under blankets, Fluxpose is probably the only option that isn't just-another-slime-tracker.They are, of course, just slime trackers, but at least they've mostly solved the problem of drift by including an EMF beacon and a calibration process to compensate for other EMF sources ( e.g. metal beams )
>>539674951you can pixelise the texture, you can round the vertex positions, I think that's about it
>>539675662maybe im describing it poorly - something in this realm https://x.com/KeyframeChef/status/1959563148161417279
>niggas need these trackers so they can do fully immersive lapdances for other men on vrchat while making a twink voiceyeowza
>>539675662>you can round the vertex positions,and what that's going to accomplish?and you don't need to "pixelize" the texture, just lower the resolution and switch filtering to nearest neighbor >>539675936that aliasing is an artifact of rasterization, unless you are going to rasterize manually, i don't know how it is possible to replicate the effect
>>539675936you can do a pixelize censor effect on the grabpass texture and stencil check it so it covers just pixels rendered by your avatar. I'm not aware of a premade shader that'll do this, but any of the mainstream AIs in current year can slop one up.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/635700/ZIX/Co-op VR Dungeon Crawler dropped yesterday, looks OK, would anyone else be interested? >>539664825Sushi Ben (Japanese Audio)Blade & SorceryGorn 2YUKITrombone ChampMystRivenUnderdogsBudget Cuts Ultimate
>>539675291All those IMU tracker scams never work properly
>>539676175nvke
>>539676175fr?no cap?
>>539676509>you can do a pixelize censor effectcan you?the last time someone posted a working implementation it looked like shit
>>539674457
>>539673898Play Quantum Void. Too bad there's no sound on 4chin because sound and music design is absolutely top notch, haven't had the shivers like that since Alien Isolation. Too bad the enemies are not scary in the slightest and combat is barebones, if this had proper xeno horrors it would be pretty near perfect. But solo dev project so can't expect miracles.
>>539676849>Co-op VR Dungeon Crawler dropped yesterday, looks OK, would anyone else be interested?Lobby today at 18:00 UTC (in 1.5h)?
>>539677489Sorry I'm the bloke who's still away and wouldn't be able to play till sometime next week.
>>539677292these dudes are about as reliable as bigscreen with their shipping dates
>>539676849ZIX was out on Quest for while, it's cool for parkouring and if you like procedural generation but combat is waglan wet noodles tier.
>>539674457I have a play for dream.
>>539677552Even king shilltuber MRTV said there was no way their headsets were coming out before Q1 2026
>>539674457I want it so badis pimax play as bad as I think it is?I've only used a Q3, I assume the big boy dream air would look like real life
>>539677778Sucks, thought it'd be like a VR gunfire reborn to be honest.
>>539677551>anyone interested in playing? oh, i wouldn't be able to play until next weekn word>>539677778heck, i'm no longer interested
>>539677778>combat is waglan wet noodles tierdesu i havent played a vr game where i cant just waggle for meleehows the ranged combat?
>>539677291It depends on how you want the effect to actually look, especially in VR since there's not a straightforward translation of "low-res pixels". Should it be screen-space-aligned pixels that rotate as you move your head around? world-space aligned pixels that are fixed to the model origin? ray-marched voxels? "optical cameo"-like mesh covering the avatar with the pixels on its surface? All possible.
>>539677840https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDQd2b5Eyioking shilltuber got invited to see this and not deckard it seems
>>539664825https://store.steampowered.com/app/1481440/Guardians_Frontline/This looks interesting, and Sushi Ben... I lost all appetite waiting for Sushi Ben to come to pc after 2 years, if I'm still feeling it I'll grab it by the end of the sale.
>>539678230>it depends on how you want the effect to actually look,are you retarded? the task is literally "emulate aliasing from rasterization"i wonder what you want the effect to actually look like
>>539678170I didn't mean immediately jeez.>>539678372It's utter trash, it's pretty janky, I liked it but haven't played much of it. The vehicles are wonky. It's easy to lose track and get ganked in strategy view/building mode. The difficulty is poorly scaled.
>>539678192Guns are alright, bow is definitely the most fun but that's because it does the whole Sairento "double jump, backflip and shoot five arrows" dance.
>>539678372The game is good mechanically but like the other anon said the difficulty is all over the place and not in a good way. It's very obviously balanced around coop and some missions are just outright retarded with the enemy spam.
>>539676175My third tracker stopped turning green so I gave up on it. I'm half body now
>>539678689and? how would you translate "emulate aliasing from rasterization" into VR then? It's easy to do screen-space pixelization which will look exactly like the effect in 2d screenshots, but IMO it looks kind of stupid in VR when you pitch your head around and the pixels follow.
>>539679374> how would you translate "emulate aliasing from rasterization" into VR then?you just check what native vr aliasing looks like and replicate the look"what (not "how" btw, take notes, esl) should it look like?" is such a braindead questionyou know exactly what it should like like
>>539669312>graphics is the reason I hate video gamesQuest 3 graphics and power is adequate for games. You're just an idiot who found a "scapegoat" in a form of performance.
HyperDouche in one hour, prepare your triangles.
>>539676849Sushi Ben english audio is unbearable, but japanese seiyūs really did it's justice. Great selection of games (I've played all of them, and had fun)
>>539680289you are a retarded bootlickerquest shit has an absolute garbage cpu and low end gpu, so the games get buck broken right in the design phase simply because they need to be able to run on standalone shit
>>539680036you think you're smart but you're retarded and are downplaying valid questions. Just downsampling an area in screenspace will look awfull, and you don't even understand that it seems.
>>539680623>playstation 2 era games got buck broken in the design phase simply because they had to run on underpowered cell
>>539680762you are not asking valid questions, you are asking retarded questionsyou shouldn't be asking what it should look like, the correct way to phrase it would be "it's impossible to implement exactly, what tradeoffs are you willing to make"you know exactly what it suppose to look like, retard
>>539680917ps2 games didn't need extreme levels of interactivity which are baseline for vrthat's leaving extremely high rendering res aside
>>539680917>celland cell is ps3, you retarded zoomerps2 used emotion engine
>>539675936I wrote a shader that does this back in 2020 and it's still the most cursed shader I've written. Multiple passes, multiple GrabPasses, not really something you should do.
I want>standalone but PCVR capable>Comes with controllers>PCVR stream over WiFi 7 / USB-c>inside out tracking>hand tracking>upper body tracking>eye tracking>face tracking>micro OLED>good audio/mic built in>under 2000-3000 $Any help?
>>539681864Crystal OG does a lot of that list but not allgood luck
>>539681864wait two more weeks
>>539681864>>inside out trackingthe last outside in headset was oculus rift>>hand trackingmeme>>upper body trackingkinda meme
>>539681096>>539680623>>539681280you are the most ass, vitriolic, annoying person to talk to. You have some slivers of sensible knowledge, and think it elevates you above the "average VR pleb", but you are retarded and can't apply that knowledge or image things talked about. You are the cancer killing this thread. Shut the fuck up
>>539681096>>539680623>>539681280kys
>>539682260>>539682331trvth nvke
>>539682260>>539682331>says stupid shit>get annoyed when he gets told offlmao
>>539681864retards will rage but Play for Dream covers all of that,Except maybe face tracking/upper body tracking? idkhttps://youtu.be/Jf1BNnq4WSo
>>539682601hahahaha
>>539682260yeah, I always get the "but I did have breakfast this morning" vibe from his posts.
Hello, today is Love Island Friday and we'll be covering episodes 7 and 8 today. The starting time is a little bit in limbo right now as it will either start one hour earlier at 21:00 UTC, if I can make it home in time, or at the usual 22:00 UTC (which is more likely to be the case). It's a weird situation today so I'll make a post later before it starts so everyone knows, sorry for the inconvenience.
>>539682647?
>>539680472I'm more the bongo kind of person.
>>539682654it's very sad that you proceeded to samefag instead of addressing the points, schizoonly smart enough to ban evade, not smart enough to refute anythingno wonder you feel so insecure
>>539682601if buying chink shit, I'd rather buy Pimax Dream Air
>>539683083>midwit thinks only one person wants him gonenarcissism, many such cases
>>539683292i know you are a blatant samefaggeryou gave yourself away again btw
>>539682601Wow, thanks anon, specs seem spot on on paper. Too good even. I will watch some more reviews to see how good it is. >>539683145Not a standalone device and does not have wireless. Not to mention it is not even out yet and is too expansive considering it is PCVR only- but thanks for random suggestion, some might find it useful.
>>539683994eh?
>>539681864Add to that DP over USB-C for PCVR + some good body trackers and you have The One VR Headset to rule over them all.Hope Gabe delivers in two weeks.
>>539684292>Add to that DP over USB-Cmeme
>>539676509will give it a shot, unless >>539681473 wants to share at least for reference even if its messy
>>539684363one of my 4k 144hz monitors is using DP over USB-C
>>539684445just one eye is 1.5x of pixels of 4k monitor
>>539684238Some shizo mentally ill tranny faggot who is either giving BJ in vrc or spamming here or sucking fags IRL when not sleeping.Ignore him
>>539684752oh, okso is he announcing that he is going to start his psychosis hour so we can prepare?very nice of him
>>539684750yeah but the point is you can do DP over USB-Cmy GPU literally has a USB-C port on it for DP 2.1
I wish I got DP'd in my port...
>>539685052>my GPU literally has a USB-C port on it for DP 2.1what gpu has it?i remember rtx 2000 had it, but dp 2.1 is very recent
>>539684363>>Add to that DP over USB-C>meme???? You're an idiot? It literary is not.DP 2.1 over USB-C Alt Mode has the same max bandwidth as regular DP 2.1
>>5396851967900XTX reference model
>>539685156a-anon?
>>539682601If that shit had good QC and real wired connection for PC gaming it would be fucking goat
>>539685205dp 2.1 is not enoughplus longer cables which can push 20gbps are extremely thick and either extremely expensive or unreliablememe overall
>>539685196GPU doesn't have to have USB-C you can hae a dock/converter/linkbox
>>539685309
>>539685156>>539685309>>539686041is this the homo psychosis?
It's time to HyperDash, join EU lobbyJebot's Gamepass 1488
>>539686041poi?>>539686107
>>539686165dirty furry lobbyyikes
>>539686107I'm straight!
>>539686165let's fucking goooooo!
>>539686041>>539686298I want to have sex with this creature
>>539686165why the pass is not "yiff in hell"?
>>539686165>forgot I uninstalled the gamebe there in a few
>>539686107nah, that's homoreasonable. psychosis beings where cute pictures end, and weird emotional vagueposts begin
>>539686458nah, that looks like homopsychosis, they are posting it here yet the posts have nothing to do with vr videogame after alldefinitely psychosis
VR games? Ew! I'd rather be shitposting
>>539686165can I join if I've never sucked off a dog irl?i don't want to be bullied because i'm the only one in the server who didn't do it
how do i
>>539686739>a furry just killed one of the most influential american thinkers and philosophers of all times>"yeah lets join the gay furry lobby xD I love VR games"you belong in jail
>>539686982have sex with men
>>539686165PSA: it's a gay furry server. all anti furry bigoted anons would be kicked on sight!!
>>539687181is this the question or the answer?
>>539687262its both.
>>539687262it's an illness
any cool co-op games in the vr sale?
>>539687385its the cure
>>539687608that's a bullet
>>539687040Exactly! shitposting is more fun than vr games, simple as
>>539687040
cuddling with the bros whilst shitepostan :3
>>539639725Nice, would be really fun to practice my Japanese as I've been too cowardly to actually talk to any Japanese people on my recent trips due to getting older, uglier, and more autistic.
>>539611934>>539611983After lots of pondering and a full day reading reviews, decided to cancel my purchase. I'll wait for Samsung's Vision Pro and check it out before getting a new VR headset, until then I'm using the Qpro like a Quest 3.
It has come to my attention that I could have saved hours and hours of my time if I just bit the bullet and spent 15 minutes learning to weight paint instead of autistically trying to make auto weights work coupled to 10 other workarounds.
>>539692094>15 minutes learning to weight paint
>>539683930Good review from chink whorehttps://youtu.be/Q9eM6gD6EXY
>>539672383Where is it?
>>539693007anonread the post 99 hours and 20 minutes have not passed yet
>>539693007In 95 hours and 45 minutes at 21:00 CEST.
>>5396922471 minute learning how to weight paint, 14 minutes figuring out that nothing is working because I didn't know I have to have the right vertex group selected for it to do anything
>>539682116wtf are talking about? beyond shit 2 is outside tracked, so are bunch of pimax shit.
>>539693817We're now going to devolve into an autistic argument about how, despite everyone knowing that you mean lighthouse tracked, the fact the lighthouses aren't reporting location and the headset is means it's inside tracked.
>>539694080lighthouses are inside out, same way that real lighthouses signal ships
>>539694080No, we're not, because you're an idiot and I don't go into arguments with idiots.
>>539693817it's not and you are wrongdon't use the words you don't understandthe last outside in headset was indeed oculus rift lighthouse is inside outnow you can proceed to cope and seethe, it's not going to make you any less factually incorrect though, so i advise you to spare your breath
>>539664825Was thinking about finally grabbing Moss, but it's been cheaper and I still have stuff I haven't gotten around to playing.
A shizo idiot going wild here. Go back to sucking virtual horse dicks.
wow, where did horse dicks even come fromshitposting schizo brain is really weird
>>539695270actually it was psvr
>>539686165Good dashing dashers
>>539695681psvr is more recent than oculus rift?yeah, march for rift, psvr was in octoberyou are right
>>539686165not a fan of the swords
good dashing, i wish I didn't miss the sword mode though.
Good dashing.>>539695945It was obvious it's just going to be wagglan but it's fine for the infection mode.
>>539696208The wagglan at least you have to aim for the head. It actually has way more range than the 3d model too
>>539695945nah it was fun. wagglan wasnt too effective for me.
Going for headshots was optimal but hit detection felt little wonky.
>>539695986>Space JunkiesSucks that it's dead, I think it could've done okay if they didn't mess up the launch so badly.
>>539696775It was honestly a good game. Did the arena shooter genre even better than hyperdash in a lot of ways. I thought I had a webum of the laser swords it had too, but can't find it.
hey I'm back where the vr videogames
>>539697186fail impersonation lol
no friday instance?
>>539697079It came out at the time when tons of multiplayer VRFPS games were competing for tiny userbase. Lots of games from that time met the same fate.
>>539697340Cancelled because of the incident
Friday Night Magic!!Calling all Planeswalkers! Beginner decks available for new players, 3 tables, let's get this rolling!https://vrch.at/4tbynt45
one day I'll host friendslop friday and we'll play RepoXR...
>>539697353iirc they also tried to sell it for $50 along with some """season 1"" bullshit with limited maps. So definitely botched launch. And yeah, it was also when pavlov was still $5 and really popular.
>>539682719Ok its been decided that we'll start one hour early as a heads up so in 50 minutes
Good dashing dashers
>>539697521>let's get this rolling!noi don't roll with gay child molesteri don't want to be in your contacts once police catches you
>>539698461I accept your concession.
incident what
>>539698532enjoy getting raped in jail
>>539698461okay so mr moderator i get warned for "trolling" saying "kill yourself" to this guy but his post somehow stays up
>>539698969i'm surprised you didn't catch a 3 day for a being a dickhead
>>539699114oh but you're nice thengotcha
>>539699168you don't sound mentally well
>>539698969The way in which the moderation in this thread selectively enforces things to where this guys posts always stay up yet everyone else telling him to fuck off is catching warnings and 3 days and posts deletions is always a mystery to me.
>>539699435you dont sound well at all. i would say you sound like a faggot
>>539699471yeah, maybe the problem that you are dox spamming ban evader?>everyone elseit's literally just you from multiple ip's
>>539699764Take your meds.
>>539699471Protip: a post won't get deleted no matter how vitriolic it is if no one reports it
>>539628769Thanks Yuki.
okay, okay, but can we get to the main point, is that dude really gay child molester?if he is, it's only fair to call him out
>>539700365proven child molesters are in jail
what exactly qualifies as "child molester" in the USA?Making eye contact with a woman your age?
>>539700408but does he fit the profile? it might be too late once he is in jailit's very bad optics for vrg to protect such individuals, we need to take a stand as a group
>>539700554no, i don't think that particular individual is interested in women, if you know what I meanthe "gay" part looks kinda important
>>539700554i don't think that's relevant since he's not from the usa
worse than a pedo, he is a f*rry
I love vr games!
my feet are cold...
>>539701637future inmates and suicide victims
>>539701637future leaders, kings and an employed polish man.
>>539701775cringe>>539701881based
>>539701881>future leaders, kingsthat's not happening>employed polish manyeah, definitely not happeninglet's go with suicide victims
>>539702080we're already the aristocrats.
Hey you jungle asian slants, I need a game recommendation.Single player, hunting game, but not realistic. Monster hunting, stalking, jungle, they are primitives, alien, brown, ugly and you hunt and kill them?
>>539702168is this some prison slang I don't know?
like playing games in vr?didn't you forget to ask someone?
>>539702186The Forest VR
>>539702251kek
Friday Love Island watchalong is now live at :https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_0777ec10-c871-4e2f-91cc-1c43287eb16c>Love Island is a reality TV show where contestants of each gender are placed on to an island together and must try to create a lasting relationship while avoiding getting voted off and sucked into the wild events that happen. The prize is £50,000 to the last standing couple and hopefully a good relationship between the two of them.The current couples standings are:Josh/Jess, Jonathan/Hannah, Luis/Danielle, Omar/Rachel, Jordan/Zoe, Chris/Lauren. We had a big shakeup on episode 5 when Lauren ended up picking Chris after he got dumped by Zoe for Jordan. Surprisingly Rachel went back on her pick of Tony and got back with Omar probably to save face. This resulted in the Alberti twins leaving just as soon as they came, but now the new shakeup is going to be the introduction of Naomi and Daisy who are on a secret mission. Unfortunately episode 6 was just a recap filler episode so we're gonna find out what will happen with the two new girls today!
>>539702251>in vr you can create anything! >so let's recreate garage paper games people created to cope when they had no access to extremely fast computers!mental illness
>>539702769what have you created, smart boy?
>>539702981not an argument