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Thank you

LAST TIME ON /dbg/: >>539438662
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>>539631350
Breakers was such wasted potential.
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>Check daily shop
>One (1) capsule for free
>Singular (1) capsule
FUCK YOU! I DON'T CARE ABOUT SKINS! I NEED ZENI!
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I'm on the verge of quitting the game if I can't find people to play with. I can handle a lane, but we lose because of other people.
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>>539630062
>Female shotacons tend to be into Kid Goku too
Probably ship him with Bulma more than anyone else. Or GT Goku with Chi-Chi in case they want to make it less taboo (Since GT Goku is an adult in a kid's body).
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>>539631803
I'm still mad at that dude who got 3K zenis for free
>>539632015
Based
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>>539631859
Just open a group here when it's a bit more active. We had some great groups.
Shame there's no guild or friend system.
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>>539632180
Issue is when I feel up to playing, nobody is online.
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bros you're clearly online and replying yet you wont make a room.....
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>>539632893
I don't know for anyone else but I'm on the thread while doing other stuff, I can't play right now.
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Holy fuck do the queues take forever for DPS. At least I finally got S-Rank DPS. I'm so sick and tired of queueing fill and always getting Technical, this role is fucking miserable.
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kale is surprisingly fun
goku and krillin farmed my top lane but they knelt before the gorilla queen
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>Switch GS to Japanese
>Kid Gohan sounds strained
Sometimes I forget how old Masako is. It took so long for her voice to start to sound strained, and the most noticeable case is just kid Gohan, Daimaku still sounds fine (Probably because his voice is not as high pitched).
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>>539632015
GT Goku x GT Chichi is so underutilised in doujinshi.
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When are they adding HER?
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>>539629578
Women have their preferences, right? (and incels hate that)
Biologically speaking, men are protectors and women are nurturers. Men want something to protect, and women want something to nurture.
SO when men encounter "evil girls," or cold girls, or masculine girls, or thing like that, there's a desire to "fix" her because of a sense that she just needs someone to make her feel vulnerable and worth protecting after being wronged or abused.
Women, conversely, see "bad boys," or evil boys, or violent boys, or arrogant boys, as needing to be fix as well, by showing them affection and hoping they realize there's something worth protecting rather than simply going through life destructively.

Problem is, sometimes a person is just bad and abusive and has no interest in protecting or being protected.
But Bejita is the female fantasy come true: a complete and utter dominant overbearing asshole who does nothing but fight and kill people indiscriminately, and the female brain goes "I can fix him"
And it worked.
Vegeta's now a docile hubby father of two so in love with his wife that he is kowtowed by a threat of not taking baths with her, and actively admits he loves his son and dotes on his daughter.
You could write an Amazon romance novel about Bejita and Bulma and wind up causing a flash flood from all the gushing 30-something horny housewives and make good bank in the process.

It's like me having the chance of scoring a chance at claiming Princess Leonor if she was also Vladimir Putin's chief general and making her a doting loyal housewife.
There was an image of a girl gushing over Vegeta I had somewhere but I can't find it.
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>>539636170
Yeah. Just the sheer amount of fanfictions between Vegeta and Bulma in the 3 years between Trunks killing Freeza and androids showing up is an indication of women liking Vegeta.
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MAKE A TEAM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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With cheelai being a playable character in xenoverse 2 odds are one of the costumes is gonna be her outfit without the huge bag on the side.

someone remind me, could Cheelai even fly in the movie? her flying in xenoverse 2 is weird then again Panzy couldn't even fight in Daima yet Sparking Zero made her a playable character and Videl legit can't make ki blasts yet xenoverse 2 allows her to fire them
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goku nerfs.......
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>>539637737
>could Cheelai even fly in the movie?
No.

>her flying in xenoverse 2 is weird then again Panzy couldn't even fight in Daima yet Sparking Zero made her a playable character and Videl legit can't make ki blasts yet xenoverse 2 allows her to fire them
Tapion couldn't fly in his movie, yet he could fly in BT games (Likely because anyone who couldn't fly were from OG, and they're treated as comic relief). Sometimes DB games make exceptions.
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>>539631803
>today's freebie was 50 Zamasu memories
>yesterday's was 1 capsule
>day before it was 50 Krillin memories
AAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>539637181
Make it yourself, anon
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>>539636170
the joys of being a man with more yin energy than yang energy; I cannot find women who want me
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>>539638015
He tanked that
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>>539638017
so she can't even fly yet suddenly she's capable of fighting?
She's got the typical "Just been in a fight" look on here that most characters who were in battle have in xenoverse 2 cutscenes since they arent allowed to show blood anymore, like we knew Cheelai would be in the game in some form since several years back a datamine showed her dialogue box but man, just how long were they holding on to her before deciding to use it here? I bet you her moves, the basic ones anyway will be using Videl and the female earthling's animations especially with her being a rookie fighter, she might have some of GT Pan and Chrona's animations as well definitely nothing like Kale, Kefla, Caulifla, female saiyans, 18, Ribranne and 21
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>>539638746
There's a bowling ball-sized hole in his chest
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>>539638961
But a flesh wound.
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Moves base broly could be given
Gigantic Omegastorm or as Sparking Zero has it, Gigantic Cannon probably his first Ultimate
Planet Crusher, named Gigantic Ball in Sparking Zero probably his second ultimate

His super attacks will likely be stuff his LSS self has his wrath state is probably a unique awokening for him i doubt they'll fork it over to CACs let alone let saiyans be LSS's
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>>539638769
It could be just a story thing, like she just tagged along and got mixed up. The game is obviouly giving you the base Broly (Super) and Freeza (Ultra-Super-Duper-Hyper-Mega Villain) which is already the minimum of two. Obviously we usually have more, but it's already enough to say Cheelai being in isn't a given.
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>>539636170
In reality women IRL would be disgusted by Vegeta because of his height alone. It's why Super retconned him to be taller than Bulma
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>>539639796
You can say so, but I saw plenty short men pulling women. Obviously they prefer taller guys, but it's not as much a deal-breaker as some people cope.
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Make a room. Stop being faggots.
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>>539639932
It works better if you make a room and ask people to join
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>>539639796
Height is not that important dude. What lies have you been fed?
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The Twitch Skin for Goku is optimal because it hurts to look at, making your opponents less willing to stuck and pursue you while reducing their accuracy.
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>>539639995
You're telling me I have to make every single group?
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>>539640671
I'm just saying you're more likely to find people to play with during slow hours that way
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>>539640671
if you're the one begging for it then probably
everyone else is either finding games already or asleep
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>>539640778
I cannot play with actual retards anymore, these threads are more American.
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This place has turned into a wannabe league thread overnight
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>>539641123
>dragon ball games thread talks about the newest dragon ball game
NA-NANTO?!
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>>539640556
it's consistently the most important thing women consider for attractiveness.
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>>539642042
how is it even through she's not in any current games she still gets fan art? meanwhile nobody gives a fuck about Towa
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>>539641931
I'm talking more about the raging I see here.
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>>539642042
I'm surprised by how little blowjob art there is for that scene and the following one where she just shoves it into her throat without chewing.
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>>539642220
Towa was pre social media and 21 has a slightly better design
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>>539642228
To be fair, after having to endure the average braindead homunculi that are my teammates in this game, I'd say LoL players were right.
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>>539642357
It can't be that bad. You're overreacting
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>>539642220
The real question is why Bamco keeps ignoring her in light of her obvious resilience
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>>539642424
They literally ran into the GoD's death circle twice
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If you're playing solo queue never fucking complain here again. I keep asking. Do not ever complain your team sucks. If I see your name I will personally feed and ruin your match.
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>>539642595
that's a good question, she'd definitely sell if she were in breakers and sparking zero and if xenoverse 2 put her majin forms in good and evil even evil with cell absorbed especially now that they've exhausted their Brolys, the only way I see them using more of him is if they give him an ultrasupervillain form
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>>539642595
>>539643048
Bamco burned bridges with arcsys and they are petty. That's all there is to it.
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21 is SHIT
the only "people" who care about her are COOMERS with SHIT TASTE
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>>539643335
Shit, why'd you do that, you just reminded me of that idiot anon from another thread 3 days ago who got his ban by spamming mating press porn of white guys fucking various different colored girls saying that's how the world should be.
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>>539643615
He sounds based, we should invite him here
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>>539643615
Which threads?
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>>539641123
Maybe I'm just sour grapes because I'm not playing this game in particular, but I feel like back when Breakers was in its heyday there was much more interaction here, screenshots, clips, stories, and playing together
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>>539642042
>21 has seen the kpop memes
fuck, its ovee
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meanwhile I'm over here just bomb throwing because xenoverse 2 won't give me LSS as an awokening this DLC even through it's broly focused
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>>539643335
Only meds are like that, with their insatiable list for diluting their own bloodlines into nothing
see: south america
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>>539643678
>>539643680
Fuck off no racism
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>>539644895
This isn't your safe space, faggot.
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>>539643335
Filthy majinfucker
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>>539644643
I'm a German-British mix and I feel an impetus to colonize.
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>>539645642
>Germa-British
>white
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>>539646007
>t. LAZY SHITalian swarthoid
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>>539646007
>>539646403
>The side characters are fighting for second place
Le laughing.
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>>539639796
most sure, but not all. I personally know some that mingle with literal goblins and refuse to budge
it's the issue with constantly pushing expectations on people imo, some eventually cave in and try to do what they're told to fit the mold while others start liking everything that has to do with subverting those expectations, including mates
tldr even if you're a short guy you can find a girl, but she's likely gonna be fucked in the head in some way
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>>539646619
...cried salagir as muslim french citizens blew him up while he was smoking a cigarette and crying.
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I tried playing Xenoverse but the cutscenes are super corny. Does it get better or worse after the first hour?
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>>539644504
Are you a console player? I can't think of any other reason you wouldn't make it in
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>>539642042
Why does majin 21 have knife ears anyway? I don't think she has the cells of anyone with them
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>>539649557
Piccolo.
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>>539650719
>The only contribution Piccolo's cells make are pointy ears
I guess it looks better on her than head hole "ears" like Frieza or Buu
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>>539651663
Well, what could he even cotribute? His stretchiness and regeneration are completely outdone by Buu's.
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>>539647861
The corniness is there all the way. Chronoa carries the game, becuase listening to either Trunks or Elder Kai speaking through the microphone filter is so damn annoying (there should have been an update to turn that filter off but I feel that's just the way they recorded the voices)
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>>539631350
Note is pure!
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>>539642991
>Vegeta straining to get Goku out of his ass
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>>539651905
I guess she has his super hearing along with his ears, can materialize stuff like clothes if she wanted, and probably turn giant if she wanted to. Christ, 21 really is just the ultimate fetish character
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>>539653674
Buu has magic powers too, he can materialize cloth, I'm pretty sure. Though maybe turning giant is something unique to him.
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>>539653674
>21 really is just the ultimate fetish character
Was it intentional?
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>>539655151
Tits, ass, and vore.
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>videotoys
Gs...
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>>539655589
Jiren lost
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>>539655151
have you seen the way she acts over food? of course it's intentional
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>>539655708
noooo T_T
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https://x.com/DB_Squadra/status/1968993487900303648

We might be getting info on our next character soon
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Tech roster is so lame no wonder the queue is instant
>fat buu
>kid gohan
>krillin
>17
>(s)hit
Are these ANYONE's favourite characters? Who wants to play as these losers?
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>>539657410
Guess I'll hold off the survey just in case.
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>>539657418
We all love Kidhan and Hoverza.
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>>539657418
Everyone loves those characters
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>>539657418
It's instant because all the shitters refuse to play it.

Good lord farming that +10 bonus missions shit isn't worth it.
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>>539657418
Hit is very fun to me, I really like how he gets a free basically no cooldown blink, he's got great tools to fuck with vision (better than krillin because it's basically infinitely sustainable), plus he's got cell's bearhug with a slightly smaller range and no directional requirement.
Clouds and bush draws are both basically giving hit free reign to shit on ANY other tech.
His damage isn't great but with a half decent damage dealer you're keeping someone locked and not allowing them to fight back due to fear.
I like buu but he's shit. They completely gutted his charge.
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My current paypig counter:
>3 armored Caulfiflas
>2 suit Krillins
>2 tanktop Trunks's
I'm suprised I didn't run into a single tattered Goku.
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Nice matchmaking, why not just put a bot on my team?
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>>539658982
Hit is just overpowered. I see him literally every match in high rank now. His s3 is impossible to punish since it has no effective cooldown.
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>>539659208
Yeah, that's what I mean, he's a really fun character, very powerful though and I expect a couple nerfs in the new season. I think cell and 18 see some too, they definitely made them busted, and their price reflects it.
I wonder if we'll get new characters. Almost certainly, I'd think, we still can only barely hit 160 star level.
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>>539659294
No one's hitting level 40 before the new Battle Pass, and if the rewards are as stingy as now, I don't expect anyone hits level 50 within the next one either.
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>>539659740
I'm 41 right now, google play points gives out zenni as a reward and I maxed it out.
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>>539659785
I constantly forget it's also on mobile.
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>>539660138
Yeah there was a PS+ pack initially too that gave 10(?) S capsules, which is 700 bonus points, close enough to an extra bonus. 40 is pretty doable right now, even free. 50 is probably stretching it though without paying. I genuinely think we see some piggies hitting above 100 with s1 launch, cause there sure as shit isn't anything else to spend capsules on. Only costume I bought with my 10k gems has been pickle dicks, I got lucky with prem capsules and got purple animations for my main characters and everything.
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>>539631350
Hey thread, how do you think Gekishin is going to address new playable characters?
Hypothetically if they were dropped on batches of 3 with each part of a class. Which would be your top 3 picks?
Mine are.
>Damage: Teen Gohan (SSJ2)
>Technical: Adult Gohan (Beast)
>Tank: Great Saiyaman
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>>539638769
Cheelai is a ex frieza force soldier she at least can fight in some way.
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>>539660417
anything else to spend gems on* rather.
Capsules are really kinda shitty with how little EX you get, even a fucking yellow is 5, and a purple is 10, that's ONE HUNDRED purple dupes to get ONE alt costume, and they all look worse than the bought ones (except goku, but his twitch costume has better coloring than it anyway and it's free).
I'm basically just sitting on a fat stack of 2500~ gems on ps, mobile and pc each, waiting for new chars or something to spend on, though I figure battle pass will probably cost money and not gems, which is annoying but not unusual.

>>539660642
Probably like you say, one of each role at a time, so they can put a new tier on the star level pass.
I'm thinking we see that fat faggot villain from daima as a tank, broly as a damage dealer, and then I don't know for tech, I think they'll do something funny and semi-subversive like janemba as tech, since we know he's coming.
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>Super Start
>Skill 1 damage boost
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>>539661825
I hate super start so much.
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about time i got one of these, honestly kinda surprised i got so many points considering hit sniped 2 of the bosses i got down to 1hp
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>>539660710
Just like the mobs on the map
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I wanna fuck monkeys
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>>539662009
they never stood a chance
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Is it just me or is Trunks a shit hero? I don't play him but he feels too squishy to really lane well and it's really annoying having to baby sit him.
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>>539662920
He's very much glass cannon, meant for top lane with a support that can line enemies up for his ults. He pairs really well with 17.
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These queues are literally longer than Breakers. What the hell is going on
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>>539663420
Don't bumrush your ranks so fucking high, retard, there's basically no way down until you're at Z, and it gates you off once you get too high.
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>>539642424
If you're not complaining about your teammates, then you are that teammate
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weird, i have 25 gems on my steam client, but just opened the mobile just to get the free daily, and it shows i have 10.
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>>539663532
ALL gems are platform specific, even free ones, so don't play on multiple platforms unless you know you won't accidentally get weeklies/battle pass gems outside of your main platform. It's really shitty.
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>>539663514
Nigger I'm C rank at tank and B at damage and the queues are ludicrous too, I'm queueing as any
And quick battle is the same
The queues are just broken
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>>539663660
wow, that is complete garbage, then i guess i should have 35 instead of 25.

wonder why they made it stupid like that.
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>>539663751
I'm having 0 issues at C1 main, all roles the same, queueing all, maybe 30 seconds at longest. What region are you in?
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>>539662920
His burst damage is insane. Dead in the water if you don't get resets but pops the fuck off if the enemy team is stacked up.
Late games GoD defense benefits him well since you can just jump onto the enemy team and hit them 6 times with you shit. I've 1v3d a few times with him.
Granted it's nothing Spirit Bomb doesn't already do but hey fuck it.

I thought Dabura was bad because everyone using him was doing it wrong. Don't go after dps with him, go down bottom and lane against the tank. Stone Spit is an insane tool for dealing with people who think they can drag out a fight.
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>>539663821
Beats me, it's common for platforms to demand paid gems remain specific to their platform, but for free gems to be kept hostage too is really a bad choice and just makes one of the big selling points of this game, the crossplay, worthless. You never want to play on anything but the first platform lmao
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so Hit is completely unsurvivable let alone unkillable until you get the double vanish card and even then he can just go invisible and leave whenever he wants and you can't do fuck all about it
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Who you hitting the gym with?
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About time

https://youtu.be/RsrbOrCaTBU?si=pD9zt2SKdyIXHnPl
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>>539664517
>daipa
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>>539664651
>taco opinion
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>>539664517
RIP Sparking Zero
20 more DLCs to XV2
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>>539664517
the tamagamis... forgotten...
also it looked like vegeta actually transformed there, so that's promising
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https://dbg-squadra.bn-ent.net/en-us/news/emzzbxda4qc

I'm still not buying those memory points though.
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>>539664517
how much do they charge for 6 characters?
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>>539664148
Celipa would be good. She's the only one there who could keep up with a human male.
>>539664517
What's with everything updating and coming out all of a sudden? It was a complete dry period for a while there.
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>>539664148
which one is the one that may force or inspire my fat ass to not give up on the gim?
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>>539665221
TGS, bro. Everyone's been saving up for TGS.
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>>539664148
i feel like videl's the only one who'd actually know how a gym works
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>>539665316
Any of the Saiyans would drag you if it came to it.
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>>539665221
>What's with everything updating and coming out all of a sudden? It was a complete dry period for a while there.
you must be new here
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So we're just not getting the Tamagamis AT ALL even though they carry 60%-70% of the fighting of the whole series. Also no SSJ3 Miniku...
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>>539664517
The models look great actually.
>noses don’t take up half the faces
>hair looks nice
>facial expressions are on point
Why the hell did it take them so long to figure this out?
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>>539664517
>0:27 ; 0:29
What's this supposed to be? He's already SSJ but transforms. I thought he was going SSJ2 but clearly not.
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>>539665019
>buffing piccolo's only ability instead of making hellzone trap better
>daima goku buff is a nothing
>frieza buffs to just make him better at what he's already good at instead of addressing the severe weaknesses in the kit
I feel like this are ill omens regarding the future of balance adjustments
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>>539665836
It's clear they're being fucked over by the network errors, it's decimated the playerbase and any and all discussion of it is about them. I'd be shocked if they did any looking at numbers, I figure these are just easy tweaks to shit out.
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>>539664517
>No SS3 Mini Goku
>No Taimagamis but fucking Panzy
>No SS3 to SS4 transformation

lmao, but new stage I guess
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>>539664148
I'm lazy and Launch looks the best, so I'd probably go with her. She'd get frustrated with my lack of progress pretty easily and agree to hang out somewhere else instead. And if she switches to Blue Launch, getting out of it would be even simpler.
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>>539666127
>I inhabit the thread with LAZY CRETINS like this
What would Vegeta say about you skipping training?
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>>539667687
he wouldn't care, we're not saiyans.
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>>539665357
Vados would be the best if you're wanting a no-nonsense instructor to help you get to your best, she has millions of years experience in training people, but she probably wouldn't be very empathetic to you. I think Videl would be a good instructor and also morally supportive. Though you might want someone else like Bulma if you're just looking for a casual workout to break a sweat with. Saiyan girls would berate you and call you weak for not being able to bench a single ton
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>piccolo picks hellzone trap first
>keeps fighting the enemy tank in melee range instead of focusing daima goku who's 20%
Taking a while getting technical to C rank because of shit like this
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>>539667827
My thought process is the Saiyans are the ultimate hypemen. They are the closest thing to a gymbro which are more important than an instructor desu. Doing your workout hard is a bit more important than doing it "right". Therefore Celipa and Caulifla are the best ones there. All of the human girls are hot garbage.
>>539667807
You are pathetic. Goku would NOT support this.
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>>539668496
>not taking arm first
holy shit I want to die when I see retards playing him just completely and utterly wrong
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>>539666069
>>539664517
There was clear space for Tamagami in the IDs... so they appear to have been cut out. How much did they gut Sparking Zero team if that's all they can manage to do?
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>>539665836
Daimaku's buff is a very obvious one, his rush damage was total shit even though his passive is centered around it
And there's no removing Frieza's weaknesses without fundamentally changing the type of character he is
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>>539669864
significantly. It's on par with the xv team now. And a big number of those team members have been working on the switch port to try and squeeze more money out of SZ.
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>>539670418
I was exaggerating but it still follows the pattern of just tweaking numbers on their best traits.
Granted, his abilities are unique enough and the pubbies are just using them like shit

I'm not in A rank yet but I've had good success with Frieza so far. Cooldowns are a bitch but he's definitely workable.
He wasn't on my list for people who need buffs, Cell is in a much worse spot
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>>539664517
So they gave Tienren 2 forms but couldnt make a single tamagami
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>>539671116
Never watched daima, are these designs real? And why is that dude dressed like Jiren?
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>>539671116
I think they managed to let down everyone. Some people were skeptical about Tamagami, but no one doubted SS3 Miniku would make it. Literally below bare minimum.
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>>539664517
Looks neat but I hope we get the Tamagamis down the line.
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>>539665019
Buffing Daimaku's rush damage is great IMO.
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>>539664517
And it only took them 1 (O N E) whole year! Thanks Bandai!
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help, i picked zamasu as my first tank and i'm sucking shit
he moves so slow
am i meant to combo skill 2 into ult? i never seem to be able to get it to work with the smallish radius
am i meant to spend time farming npcs to build up regen meter?
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>Duu made it in AND can go SSJ3
Based. I always believed in my boy.
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>>539672831
>am i meant to spend time farming npcs to build up regen meter?
Yes. Also wail on them mid-fight if you're starting to run out.
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>>539664517
>one full year
>no Tamagami
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>>539672887
Goku having the flaming kamehameha is neat too.
SSJ3 Vegeta and Goku SSJ4's ultimate look meh tho. I hope Gomah has his giant wand move.
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>Sharting Zero continues to disappoint
Was anyone surprised
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>>539664517
Oh my God it actually exists!
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>>539673284
Goku would probably use Ultra Ego better than Vegeta.
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>>539664517
>No SSJ3 Goku
>No tamagamis
What the fuck
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>>539664517
I feel nothing
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>>539673284
It is a shame how much DB fanart is on twitter/deviantart and is untagged.
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>>539673818
I've found completely untagged masterpeaces on there
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>>539673818
Yeah a lot of it just appears on my feed. Jap artists especially hate tagging their stuff
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>>539664517
Are we getting a new arena?
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>>539671985
Yea they're real. There's no relation to Jiren that's just how they made him look. Should've made him blue.
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>no Super 17
>no Pikkon
>no Zangya
>no Fasha
>no Devilman
>no Android 21
>NO ARALE
They couldn't even give us the same amount of content BT3 had

3 million copies in one day and this is how they thank us. DISGUSTING.

Sparking Zero is a Tenkaichi in name ONLY.
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>>539675878
no pikkon was a huge one for me. I was ride or die that surely he was coming as like a free character with title update 1.
Nope
I just look like a fucking optimistic idiot.
Really sad stuff. I don't think I'm ever going to preorder again.
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>>539675878
>They couldn't even give us the same amount of content BT3 had
This sold it for me. Genuinely why? It's not a game worth buying
$100
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>>539675878
BT3 always had a ton more replay value than Sparking Zero
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Fuck sharting zero
Atleast he'll be a future shartdra tank
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>>539671985
SENILEyama forgot he had already used the design on a previous antagonist and none of the yes men dared to point it out.
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I'm glad Super 17 gets shafted, hate that gay ass nigga
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>>539676198
/dbs/ is that way.
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>>539676198
>yes men
These niggas kill the series btw. Under no other circumstances would pic rel have happened
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>>539675878
>How dare they satisfy the huge majority of fans instead of my niche retarded demands?!
Never ever listen to a dragon ball fan and you'll succeed.
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>>539676473
That's the thing, they didn't satisfy a huge majority of fans
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>>539676418
>Toriyama: Here's this silly mix up about the name we had.
>Random hood weeb retard: THE FRANCHISE IS DEAD, THIS RUINED EVERYTHING!
The movie was a massive success, anon, calm down.
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>>539676473
Sparking Zero may have sold well but many have turned on it
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>>539642042
penis
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>>539676473
People wanted GT again and we got Daima, proof that GT fans deserve less
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>>539676545
>Millions in sales
>90% positives on steam
>Millions of views on thousands of videos, all with overwhelmingly positive likes to dislike ratio
Seems satisfied to me.
Hell, even Gekishin is satisfying people clearly despite the 60% positive reviews
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>>539676624
>Many
Small brown communities don't matter.
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>>539676664
>t. Just got dunked on by Miniku
He feels so much better to play with a stronger rush.
I wish GT Goku used the nyoibo too.
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>>539676769
but... the youtubers say it's a letdown...
just ignore how they celebrate every fucking small announcement and keep on playing it haha
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>>539677054
I would rather bash my balls with a Vegeta figurine than watch an anituber.
Japanese MADmakers excluded, I love Paragus.
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>>539676280
Tell me a reasonable explanation for why Goma wears the same clothes as Jiren.
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>>539676221
Super 17 will be back and you WILL lose.
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...That's it?
THAT'S the final DLC???
THAT WAS JUST A BUNCH OF CHEAP PRODUCT PLACEMENT!!!!
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>>539677045
No I don't, that's stupid. GT Goku doesn't need to go back to Nyoibo just because he's small, that's just nostalgia pandering. It amounted to nothing in Daima anyway.
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>>539676473
>Daima
>fans
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>>539676620
And Pokemon Gens 7, 8, and 9 are also huge successes. The Avatar movie was also a huge success. star wars episode ix was a financial success.
Unless you think all of the above are the peak of their mediums, then amount of money made doesn't equal quality.
The best Dragon Ball Z release (Level Sets) was cancelled due to not selling well lmao. Meanwhile the orange bricks were a huge success.
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>>539677335
He doesn't, it's a jester's outfit that looks like Jiren's when he get all buff, that's the joke. 'Super Heroes are dressed like clowns' is an old joke.
Black and Red have been the Demon Mage outfit since Towa, which Toriyama always had a fondness for.
Daima didn't invent any of it.
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>>539677531
>0 drop in success and popularity doesn't mean the majority like it!
Cope
>>539677508
The justification about shorter limbs made more sense than anything in GT and was a cool OG callback about the fight with Roshi.
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>>539677827
It seems you're the one coping hard as you could not refuse my point. I accept your concession.
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>>539677531
Americans love their low quality releases, that's also why they love their dub.
But that has nothing to do with the current topic.
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>>539677335
Why does Jiren wear the same clothes as the members of Shocker?
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>>539677343
He will cry because he LOST as SUPER 17, and is a LOSER
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>>539677651
The more pressing question is: Why did Gomah have Mister Satan's cape?
Did Toriyama really make the Mister Satan's cape look the demon king's mantle? If so that's funny.
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Gomah is the most boring final antagonist in franchise history.
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>>539677969
>refuse
Minor spelling mistake, I win.
>>539678071
That would make sense since Toriyama is a big sentai fan.
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GT Goku a STINKY
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>the enemy decides to go 3/1 on us
>leaves #17 in the other lane
>"easy peasy, just withstand the three with my Cooler and the victory is ours"
>as a matter of fact, not
>the other lane fucking LOSES agains lone #17
>predictably it snowballs into the entire game being lost
My lane partner was a Piccolo who kept running head first into battle and dying btw.
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>>539678221
You misspelled 'Bojack', anon.
>>539678298
How is that possible?
Also I had an enemy Zamasu that keep walking into our GoD somehow. Without a Zeno around. I was confused.
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>/dbs/ shitflinging over nothing
Kill them.
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Yeah, I'm thinking KINO is back.
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>>539642595
would they share in some way the rights with Arsys? not that they own her, but having to give a little part of the share to them for their contribution?
i dont know really. considering how Daima, maybe they dont know what are they doing.
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Is there a point to continue the missions after finishing the battlepass?
>>539678528
>would they share in some way the rights with Arsys?
Very unlikely but not impossible. DB has always firmly been owned by Toriyama in terms of rights.
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>>539678487
It's such an ugly color
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>>539678487
Cheap uglier copy
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>>539678597
The hair? I like it. I hope the blurays are good.
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>>539678579
>Is there a point to continue the missions after finishing the battlepass?
no but do your dailies for max amount of memories
Hopefully season 1 BP will be longer and have more zeni
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>>539655336
we need more vore characters.
imagine we get boo that gets inside of you and make you fat, that would be funy wink wink
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>>539678597
I got used to it pretty quickly. The only thing that still bothers me about the design is his lack of an obi and his fur not reaching all the down to his hands
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>>539678579
>Very unlikely but not impossible. DB has always firmly been owned by Toriyama in terms of rights.
that would be his son now?
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>>539677531
Gen 7 was kino
8 and 9 were unfinished slop that only sold well because they were switch games
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>>539678672
It's too purple. A fire red would be a lot better. The design has too much of it too. It looks like the old paint bucket recolor SS5 designs.
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>>539675878
It's worse than BT2 and 3 by a mile
But at the very least, if they ever do a Sparking Zero 2 now we know to skip that shit
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>>539678691
Good to know. I'm really running low on zeni
>>539678487
Shame it wasn't a ryuken. Still was cool.
>>539679052
Technically it's his entire family but the son seems to be the one who stepped up to manage the estate.
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>>539678487
I was so disappointed during this scene
All that beautiful animation and build up thinking maybe it's gonna be a new move or a dragon fist or something
And it was just a Kamehameha
Not even a Kamehameha x 10
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>>539679803
Agreed. They played it too safe with Daima.
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C rank!
Onto B rank!
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>>539679803
We got baited when we saw him raise his fist...
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>>539679803
This really made me convinced Goku need more moves.
Don't get me wrong, it piercing the demon realm was great but come on, you could have at least made it a flaming kamehameha that turns into a red kamehameha or something.
Ryuken would have been PERFECT for that whole thing too, especially with the Neva power up and all.
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>>539673487
Since when has Goku ever been happy destroying stuff (and lives) for fun?
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>>539679974
Congrats, anon.
>>539680064
Or a Mega Oozaru punch.
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>>539664517
Fucking nice, new stage too
No mini SS3 Goku sucks too. Not like anyone would use it when there's mini SS4 but still
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>>539680184
>Ehhhh? A tournament where if you lose your universe is erased? SUGOI, THAT MEANS EVERYONE WILL FIGHT WITHOUT HOLDING BACK!!!!!
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>>539680184
I was talking about using it better in a fight, not the mindset behind it.
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>>539679803
>Not even a Kamehameha x 10
You know that's quite literally the same move as a normal Kamehameha right? You are just meant to believe it's stronger, but there's not a single difference
>inb4 but this superficial...
No. The first time he used it he made it mixing two balls of ki and it was blue like any other kame, then it became a normal kame but red, and it's not even the first time they change a kame's color (see Gohan's yellow one against Boo's egg). Kamehameha x10 is literally just a Kamehameha but Goku tries harder, it's literally the same as the flaming effect Kamehameha Daima SS4 used
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>>539678671
Yes, that's what GT 4ku is
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>>539669864
I guess no more DLCs for Sparking Zero
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>>539680641
Objectively wrong dickhead
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>>539680358
If he doesn't have the mindset he clearly can't use it better, just like Jiren is stronger than UI-less Goku but wouldn't use UI better than him because under his collected facade he's just a ragetard
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>>539679803
I'M SICK OF KAMEHAMEHAS

MOVE ON

WHY CAN'T GOKU LEARN NEW SKILLS?
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Honestly I was more impressed with the Mini SSJ4 than the adult Daima version
Mini acted more like an actual monkey and it was fun seeing him be creative with his size
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fucking ape goku ignores the 3 people jumping our hit while i'm inside his body to go for the 6 seconds left zeno
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>>539680513
Ok
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>>539680727
Incomplete transformation. So clear they messed it up they had to redo it with Gogeta. And then Heroes tried to fix it. Finally Toriyama saved the design.
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>>539680820
>Mini acted more like an actual monkey
because his body is small and he needs to move fast
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>>539677335
cause it was actually the demon person outfit before it was pride troopers', hell even fucking Sandland has it
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>>539678435
Bojack has AURA thougheverbait
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Whenever I see someone try to argue with me over something I think is dumb I don't even bother anymore. Just hit em with the "Ok." "Alright." "Whatever." and move on. No point in engaging
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>>539680937
It's not a copy you dumb piece of shit and it's vastly superior to Daipa's rehash in more ways than one
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So Toyotaro is a gundamfag too huh
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>>539681262
Toriyama was a Gundamfag, he loved building plamo kits, Gunpla included
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I like both ssj4's
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>>539680513
NTA but it would have been a good moment to make it something more. Like the Kamehameha normally moves like water, making it flaming and basically turn into a torrent of flame would have been a cool variant.
>>539680937
Based and true.
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Daima's future died with Toriyama
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>>539681480
Based? Based.
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>>539681480
me too
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>>539680937
this, becoming more red is the correct evolution
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>>539681262
Looks like shit
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>>539681480
Even more based.
>>539680820
The monkey run is iconic.
>>539680804
Goku HAD other moves, like the Janken and the eight arms thing or even all the shit he did with the nyoibo even within Daima itself. He just doesn't use them for some reason.
At least it wasn't a Genkidama.
>>539679986
I think this is due to animators being in charge of different parts of the fight and they clearly had a lot of freedom, like the animator that just decided to make Goku do a monkey run.
One animator was probably going for a Dragon Fist and set it up, probably thinking the guy in charge of the next part would get it and the next guy just didn't think of it and did the weird cut to a kamehameha.
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>Z transformations "GRRRR I'M ANGRY GAAARRRRR SCREAMING!"
>Super transformations "GRRR I'M CALM OF ALL EMOTIONS, GARRRRR SCREAMING!!!"
>GT
>actually attempts to be peaceful and emotional and beautiful
https://youtu.be/28_1B9a_mxU
Yup, GT chads won
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>>539681784
>like the animator that just decided to make Goku do a monkey run
I wish he did the same in his adult form
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>>539681239
Nah, inferior, incomplete, needs fixing, GOT fixing.
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>>539681896
But enough about Daipa's SS4
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>>539681858
>Literally just walked around until he sold a fight that was already won and job.
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>>539681858
So you must love Super Saiyan God huh
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>>539681858
>peaceful
Didn't fit the tone of the Baby arc at that point at all
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>>539678435
>Also I had an enemy Zamasu that keep walking into our GoD somehow. Without a Zeno around. I was confused.
Might be a network issue. Delayed execution of input leads into character acting erratic. Happened to me.
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>>539681896
True. The pose after the transformation was so cool too.
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uniform red ss4 >>> black and red ss4 wtf yikes
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>>539681858
>xhe hates Z
Sinking to new lows... sasuga, GTfags
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>Yup GT Chads w-AAAAHHH BABY SAMA PLEASE NO HAVE MERCY
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>toriyamafag and gtfag are about to spam another thread to death on another pointless back and forth
Janny, for fuck's sake...
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>>539682059
Nta but yes, yes I did. I always liked SSG ever since it first leaked and even more so when I saw BoG
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>>539682120
Oh, that would make sense.
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>>539680937
All of that would be true if the original didn't look the best, which it does. Heterogeneity > Homogeneity.
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>>539682059
SSG is a great form and everyone agrees there should've never been a Blue
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>>539682208
God Daipa SS4 is so ugly

>>539682306
None of that hurt him btw
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I like all of Dragon Ball actually.
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>>539681480
Kill yourself
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>>539682448
>Coughs up blood
>"N-None of that hurt me btw, I-I won!"
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get me out of this godforsaken hellhole
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>>539682561
>None of that hurt me btw
You're goddamn right it didn't
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>>539682448
And yet he still found a way to job... GTku is a Vegeta
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>>539682070
Low IQ. Goku's control and overcoming his hidden nature complemented Baby's descent into him becoming what he hated the most, Goku via the earth and his familial ties was stronger than Baby and stolen power.
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>>539682562
That Trunks hard carried his team, how did you even lose?
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>>539682621
Daipa 4ku couldn't even defeat Goma
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>>539682621
GTku defeated more main villains than Daima and Superku combined
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Low IQ is hating Z
Shows GTfags are not worth considering
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>>539682620
>it didn't hurt
>Lose the fight
I'm not convinced
>>539682704
What's up with your diaper fetish and why are you making it our problem?
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>>539682521
I am not fond of the pilaf arc however everything after is well crafted and executed.
I am fond of all of Z except for some of Cell. Buu also has many flaws however I appreciate its strengths.
None of the original Manga is bad in my opinion.
I do not believe GT is good overall however it is extremely nostalgic to me and I quite enjoy it even to this day.
I do not believe Super is good however I did enjoy watching it weekly with my friends and found the movies to be quite entertaining.
I care not for Toyotaro's manga, I cannot read it without comparing it to the original's work
I was quite disappointed in Daima, and won't be watching it again however if they were to make a movie or try again with another season I would give it another fair shot.

This....is my opinion...
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>>539682335
>>539682413
this, especially the "there should've never been a blue", at least not that soon
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>>539682704
>>539682761
>deflection tactics
Can't deny the truth, so must deflect, crying, seething
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>>539682521
NOOOOOO HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO HAVE POINTLESS ARGUMENTS ONLINE THEN
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>>539682694
The fuck do you mean? Do you expect me to carry 3 deadweights as 17?
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>>539682312
>toriyamafag
Objectively correct thing to be, Toriyama was the best.
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>>539682521
Shit taste desu
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>>539682562
>0/6/1
I feel your pain, bad DPS can ruin a match easily
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>>539682839
Concession status? Accepted

>>539682927
Daipa 4ku has no kills. This is a fact. Majin Kuu > Daipa 4ku
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>>539682954
He was carrying 3 dead weights too and your deadweights seemed less heavy by those stats.
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>>539682975
...at creating flops for pedophiles.
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*sniff* *sniff* Ahhh yes anee-san!!
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>>539682208
>right
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>>539683013
You should go back to /dbs/ instead of shitting up our thread.
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>>539683110
NTA but no way in hell is a level 11 17 going to last more than 5 seconds against a level 14 Trunks
There was actually nothing he could do there
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>>539683349
Nah, keep seething
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>>539682208
Unironically yes.
>>539683138
Goku isn't that fat.
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>>539683110
Okay bro just let me outduel the hyperfed level 14 dps as support
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The only way to save Dragon Ball vidya now is to reuse all the Sparking Zero assets into an actual fightan game a la Super DBZ or Budokai.
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>>539682208
>red
It's pink, which makes sense cause the form is super gay.
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>>539683459
You're literally the one spamming the thread angrily replying to everyone. Multiple times even. Just go schizo scream in the schizo scream thread with the rest of your people.
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>>539683138
Goku should be that fat. Fatter, even.
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>>539683630
More than one person hates the trash that is Daipa 4ku bud
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>>539681450
>>539681262
BASED
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>>539683013
You should stay here and enrich our thread.
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>>539683630
He doesn't have a choice, /dbs/ doesn't like the GTfag either and he shows up here whenever he gets banned or bullied too hard there.
It had been a while since we saw him though.
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>Piccolo getting buffed for literally zero reason. When he's already a top-tier DPS.
Sure why not I guess? He's my favorite DPS to play anyway.
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>>539683770
Nice headcanon
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must be a slow day for /dbs/
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>>539683770
Off-topic babble, but anyway you lost the argument Daipa baby
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>>539683559
GT 4ku isn't red. He's salmon pink. See >>539682448
>>539681858
>>539678671
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>>539683712
>More than one person spam and scream my overly specific nickname that come from another board
Not really, no.
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>>539683938
You're still seething
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I don't know how to explain it but comparing Goku's SS4 forms from GT and Daima is like comparing Goku's models from XV to SZ. Like comparing nuYamamuro stock art to Shintani's DBS BR. Only one of them feels authentic, only one of the two makes me think "yeah, that's Goku".
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>>539683903
It's not as blatantly gay as Daima's pink shade.
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Why do you keep engaging with the idiot? You know what to do when you see off topic shit.
And afterwards don't reply to him
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>>539683835
>>539683890
>If I reply to you 5 times, I win the argument!
You're actually just shitting up the thread in a rage.
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>>539683903
And it's infinitely better than Daima's version
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>>539683903
Actually that's because of film degradation. It's red in reality.
>>539683938
More than one person uses daipa kek.
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>>539683972
Make another 100 posts screaming because someone reminded you of the newer better version of a form that was shit in GT to show how it's everyone else who's seething.
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>>539684127
It was way pinker is GT
People called him Pink Panther
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>>539684127
>muh film degradation
Vegeta's fur was red. Gogeta's hair was red. Stop with this nonsense, every game gives him that pinkish color.
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>>539684127
>More than one person uses daipa kek.
Not here, no. It's really obvious you're a transplant who has no idea how things work here.
>>539684236
I remember that fanart, it was funny.
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>>539684236
https://x.com/seedofmight/status/1571193711521841154/photo/1
It was red. Vegeta's looks better than Goku's imo.
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>>539684235
Post this again but without the tears this time
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>>539684045
>shiny, ugly, inconsistent colors
NuYamamuro, GTku
>not plastic, better proportioned, consistent colors
Shintani, Daimaku
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>>539683559
>>539683903
They are both shit. Daima had the opportunity to fix SS4 and make it CHAD GOLD, but even that it managed to fuck up.
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>>539684380
Only 99 screaming fits left to go, good luck.
>>539684436
Yes, that's what he was saying, anon.
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GT broke him
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>>539684380
Proof that 4ku needed fixing, they made Gogeta 4ku but with RED hair
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>>539684045
>right: Your hero Son Goku, brave and gleaming as ever, the only thing redder than his eyes is his indomitable human heart which boosts his unavoidable saiyan fist.
>left: Frederik Norton, came to the set drunk half the time, the other half it was coke instead, registered sex offender, hasn't been seen since that whore appeared dead in his lawn
I almost pity GTfags. Almost.
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>>539684602
And somehow Daima still fucked it up even with the red hair
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>>539684480
Golden SSJ4 always looked terrible to me, I don't get why there's so much art of it.
>>539684602
Gogeta just being an adult Gotenks in personality was so weird, he even had the same 'unfuse at the last second' gimmick.
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>>539684602
Insane. They gave him a different design because they wanted him to look different. His fur is brown.
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>>539684623
Please tell me that's shitty fanart because that looks awful
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>>539684693
It looks terrible because of the pants. Give it EoZ Goku's pants and this would look amazing >>539684480
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>>539684568
>even Heroes made SS4 look better despite using GT palette
Shameful
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>>539684623
Goku's so cute
>>539684827
I never even noticed EoZ Goku had different pants than usual.
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Sigh, Another thread ruined because people are too stupid to realize that closing tab and NOT replying to the fucking troll makes them go away
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>>539631350
i look like this
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We should return to fanficposting if we're going to let the seething /dbs/ reject keep shitting his pants like this
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>>539684568
Daipa 4ku is their inbred relative
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Fuck SS4, fix SS3 and give it eyebrows.
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>>539684986
Nobody's replying anymore and he's still going.
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If you suck as tank do everyone a favor and just uninstall
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I for one was entertained by the dbsbro. Keep it up.
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>>539684623
Not a good example of the form looking good if that was what you were aiming for.
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>>539685301
Uninstall
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>>539685301
That tank seems to have done pretty well?
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The God Who Sold The Worlds
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>>539664148
gine and the u6 girls would know how to push me without completely emasculating me at lifting
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>>539685301
I am still waiting for a tank I want to play with. I don't like any of the current options.
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>>539684568
Ok I guess GT made SS4 Goku looks ugly now
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>>539684986
You do realise they almost always start argue with themselves after awhile, right?
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How old are the U6 Saiyans?
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>>539685486
Hot
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>>539685457
I was the tank and I carried that game with my eyes closed, so no one has any excuses
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>>539685610
13
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>>539685610
Early 20s
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>>539685610
Probably in their early 20s
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>>539684986
Choco21...
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>>539685486
>>539685531
Cute
>>539685668
Good job.
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>>539685203
but then how to differentiate Raditz SS?
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>SSJ4 is its own character
Shame. I wanted to see him throw his gi away and transform into it.
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GT, Daima, I welcome both, BOTH I say, for it allows me all I need to satisfy my DESIRES. The desires to PULL the TAIL of Goku and see his face twisted into a confused, flustered, surprosed, aroused, and unheroic state! To see him get HARD from having the tail SQUEEZED and TUGGED and STROKED! TO MAKE THE MONKEY CUM CUM FROM TAIL PULL GRAB! PULL TAIL! PULL! TAIL! YES! YES! HAHAHAHA!
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>>539664517
so what's different between the two SSJ4s?
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>>539685486
Does this mean Aeos is the real boss? Or Chronoa killed her and fell into a 9 year coma, had her dna stolen, produced 2 children (clones) and got killed by the superior (inferior) one?
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>>539686091
same
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>>539686012
The same way you tell the difference between SS and SS2 Vegeta - lightning.
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>>539686091
That would have been neat indeed.
>>539686128
Based
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>>539682208
>fur sleeves
>Goku with disappearing "belt"
ugh
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>>539685486
YOOOOO
That's sick, thanks drawanon
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>>539686215
How to differentiate Raditz SS2 and SS3 then?
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>>539686091
Is it confirmed it's not a costume? Because that's fucking garbage, if so. I'm glad I didn't buy the Ultimate edition, like I planned to at first.
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>>539686364
Nope, EoZ doesn't get the Daima outfit sadly.
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>>539686350
Longer hair
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>>539686267
>>Goku with disappearing "belt" >>539686091
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>>539686350
He will turn into Rapunzel as SS3.
>>539686461
This game was such a disappointment. And you just reminded me that they still don't have the EoZ gi in the game ffs
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>>539686091
Imagine if we didn't already see Goku turn SS4 before this.
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>>539684827
Not him but no, hell no. It's an improvement but this is far from amazing
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>>539686575
When was the last time we saw Goku with EoZ outfit in a game?
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>>539686575
>And you just reminded me that they still don't have the EoZ gi in the game
I was very offended by this.

>>539686736
XV.
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>>539686706
It's better than I thought it'd be. It's not bad now.
>>539686736
Does sparking not have it???
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>>539686706
Now turn the gold red like Toriyama's SS4
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>>539686838
Iirc EoZ Goku's only outfits are his base gi, the battle damaged variant, and Saiyan armor(?) (which I never understood why even in BT3 they gave this to EoZ Goku and not Goku Mid).
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>>539686736
I used this costume all the time in BT3, whenever I used (End); but I mostly used (Mid), as I liked the SS design better.
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>>539686736
It should be in every game.
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>>539686964
Wow sparking zero is such a piece of shit. The outfit goku ends the original manga with isn't in the game.
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>no SZ what if where this happened
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>>539665019
>Zeni prices of Memory offered in shops will be lowered
I NEED ZENI TO SPEND TO BEGIN WITH
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Metal Gear lore is more confusing than power level scaling
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>>539686706
That color looks off (should be more blue-ish). It's still an improvement over the current SS4s imo
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>>539687190
That would require them to care about DB.
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>Gekishin Squadra
>Have 2 characters for level up
>No zeni
>Daily reward is a blue capsule that i get 1 EX coin for it

How was your RNG anons with the gold capsules from twitch rewards?

>>539677448
>Majin Doo
>No Majin Kuu
>No that bug looking guy with the sword

Actually surprised
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>>539687190
They shat all over OG DB. That would be amazing, even if not so we could have a SS character with a fucking golden tail in the game.
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>>539687260
I don't think MGS is confusing at all, it's just plain silly.
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>>539687475
>How was your RNG anons with the gold capsules from twitch rewards?
Absolute garbage, almost all of them were dupes.
>No Majin Kuu
Kuu is already in the game, anon.
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Is there any big franchise more mismanaged than this one? Dragon ball z doesn't have a single available good home release, games that are the absolute bare minimum, and had a not even monthly manga before Toriyama died.
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>>539659089
Is it me or are all gokus bots right now

They just float around circles and once or twice attack mobs then go straight to die
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>>539687602
Lord of the Rings
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>>539687754
Cute & canon.
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>>539687754
Cute.
>>539687830
XV2 threesome with Cheelai and Broly confirmed btw.
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>>539685610
Probably in the 20s like the others have mentioned. Compare how Caulifla and Cabba are drawn compared to like Gine and Tarble. Caulifla's brother is also this old retired dude, while the age difference of siblings can be very wide it kinda implies she's not like super young.
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>>539677180
>I love Paragus.
Bulma...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4hf0a9hykQ
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>>539685668
>There are people who don't use cards
Why are they like this
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>>539686160
I wanna say the latter
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>>539687963
>Caulifla's brother is also this old retired dude,
He's not retired, he has a broken leg.
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>>539685610
Caulifla's gang has been around for a while, Kale joined it later, Cabba is a well established soldier in the military, the girls are their age and they aren't chibi like Goten and Trunks were when they were under 17 so Caulifla, Kale and Cabba aren't under 17 either.
Her behaviour is modeled after the Sukeban, not a teenage girl. Sukeban are girl gangs filled with female delinquents. The first ones were founded by highschool girls, but that's not where the story ends. Some grew to even rival smaller Yakuza clans. Many "girl bosses" in anime are modelled after the Sukeban. It is not an age restricted thing.
They are adults
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>>539687963
Name a character more forgotten about than Tarble. Even Lunch showed up in Suepr
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>>539687963
I didn't even know Caulifla had a brother
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Why do my medals keep turning gold?
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>>539687260
It's pretty straightforward when you play them all together
Now Kingdom Hearts, that's the ultimate "not even the wiki can explain this shit to me"
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>>539688296
Tarble exists again, Vegeta mentioned him in Broly but yeah we're probably never gonna see him again
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>>539688427
Cabba went to him first for the ToP but his leg was broken. Cabba then went to recruit his sister instead.
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>>539688525
Medals have different tiers, the more you do their unlock conditions, the higher tier they get. Gold is the tier above what you had before.
>>539688607
Apparently the fucking mobile game was vital to understand the third game.
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gohan is to busy learning about bugs
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>>539685486
>You will never be brainwashed into becoming a Bossu double
why live
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>says my twitch account is connected
>still no free capsules
fug this
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>>539688935
whomstve is the ginger
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>>539686959
Better imo, Toriyama was right.

>>539687306
See >>539687072
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>>539689223
Actually looks pretty good
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>>539688607
>>539688842
Kingdom Hearts is easy!
First you play the first game. Then chain of memories which is a sequel. Then II which is a sequel again. Then 358/2 days which is a prequel. Then Recoded which is a sequel to the sequel. Then Birth By Sleep which is a prequel to the first game. Then Dream Drop Distance which is a sequel to the sequel of the sequel of II. Then go back and replay ALL the games but in their updated HD final mix versions to get more vital lore and story bits, then the online web game which is the most important game story wise and is a prequel to everything, then the Gacha mobile game which is based on the online web game. Then the prequel movie which is extremely vital that takes place 1000 years prior to the series. Then the 2.8 prequel to III which is actually a sequel to DDD. Then III. Then Melody of Memories which is the sequel to III. Then go back and replay III ReMind for the new vital story and lore which originally led into the mobile Pokemon go game that would've been a sequel but got cancelled so now we wait.

That wasn't so difficult.
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>>539686091
Vegeta’s scene in the trailer was obviously a transformation. Maybe Goku will have one too
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>>539688296
>Lunch showed up in Suepr
I don't remember this. She did show up in the tarble special and heroes but Super?
It's not that Tarble is forgotten, he's just beyond irrelevant. Any purpose he may have had was thrown away when his spiritual successor (Cabba) came around.
>>539688721
He's mentioned in the BoG movie too.
>>539688427
Are you a manga only guy or have you never seen Super at all?
>>539689223
The color for the nekomajin manga is done by interns not tori himself right?
>>539686959
Is there any proof Tori designed Daima's SS4?The sheets said Nakatsuru designed it. It might be marketing fluff calling it "Toriyama's SS4"
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>>539689210
NTA but that's a version of April O'Neil I think?
>>539689471
The fact there were multiple mobile games / web games is very confusing.
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>>539689471
...maybe arguing over whether Daima is canon or not is a blessing in disguise
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>>539689210
I assume it is april o neil from the tmnt 2012
if you ask me why... I would not know
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>He's mentioned in the BoG movie too.
>>539689471
Fucking kek. Dragon Ball is simple compared to this.
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>>539689561
It's not just the colored Neko Majin Z manga
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>>539669864
literally every single daima related content has flopped so far, of course they are going to cut down on shit nobody wants to play as like fucking tamagamis
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>>539689561
>Is there any proof Tori designed Daima's SS4?The sheets said Nakatsuru designed it.
I'm pretty sure the translation was off. Nakatsuru designed the original SS4, but Toriyama drew the new one. It was called "Toriyama's SS4".
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>>539689875
>Flopped
>Literally sold above average for every Daima DLC so far
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>>539689471
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o1ieehttdA

>This is an accurate enough explanation of the franchise
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>>539689471
>fake fan
They literally released an official order of the games and the collections make it easy.
>buy KH 1.5+2.5
>buy 2.8
>buy 3 with DLC
>MoM is irrelevant so ignore it
That's all
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>>539690034
gotta recoup the costs of all of the other shit flopping hard i guess
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ok here me out humans in xenoverse 2 get the tuffleization as a awoken skill.

Where the humans look like baby vegeta 1 then turn to baby vegeta 2.

The lore around it can be about that your time patroler is a desendent of a human who has been tuffleized and your character now holds the potential to be a reborn tuffle.
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>>539689471
>>539689635
>>539689590
It's really just following release order, just substituting with remakes whenever applicable
The most confusing part is Union X, the "multiple mobile/web games" is a misnormer, it was initially a web game, that was then transitioned into a mobile game, and then renamed, it then had a second story bolted onto it, Dark Road. It's all really an issue of naming/presentation
As for its current importance, while seeing the UX cutscenes helps understand a couple of things in KH3 and is generally recommended to do so, it didn't actually conclude before the release of KH3, so apparently even Square didn't think it was important enough, it'll moreso be important going forward
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so why do pooskins and spirituallypoo spam slop so much on channel nowadays?
always from toasters too
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>>539688842
Oh blue is silver not platinum
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>>539689852
>One has red
>The other has orange
Kek. Tori stated he doesnt have set colors and uses whatever that one time. Yellow dodoria is real
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>>539690182
>other
What other? Daima made money as an anime and as video game DLCs, there no 'other stuff'. Unless you mean the figurines but that's just selling normally at worse.
Namek SSJ Gokus still sell the best somehow.
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>>539689471
Don't forget that every game was on an entirely different console except for 1 and 2 both on PS2 so unless you owned like 3 different handhelds you had no fucking clue
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>>539662426
Same
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>>539689980
Nakatsuru drew the sheet. No artwork has come out for what Toriyama drew. I'm thinking that was marketing fluff.
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>>539690201
they should get a keyblade awoken
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>>539690293
Yeah manga artists tend to be incosistent with colors. Those are still Toriyama's choices unlike the anime palette
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>>539689561
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>>539688935
>>539689663
Hot
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>>539689852
>>539689223
I was going by the anime, which is what the games usually base the colors on. The anime has a bluer shade, which I think meshes better with gold.
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>>539689223
This is pretty meh ngl. Looks better than the Daima version though.
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>lane partner is Krillin who insist on taking every single enemy head on
>will attack boss when he's close by
>will attack GoD no matter how well guarded
>will attack players at first sight
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Just give him his fucking belt back and it's all good.
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>>539690414
It's pretty obvious for anyone who watched that shit that SSJ4 Goku/SSJ3 Vegeta were last minute rushed additions, they kinda just exist in a vacuum for the 3 episodes they appear and for the rest of the series it's like they don't exist
The fact they didn't reveal Toriyama's artwork of them makes it pretty clear he had jackshit to do with either of these and they were 100% Toei additions
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>>539690405
Okay I know we love to pretend and all but seriously, don't stick your dick in a Saiyan female
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>>539690865
>schizo
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>>539690746
Krillins have been awful whenever I played with them.
Gohans are hit or miss.
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I love the Daima outfit
The untucked shirt makes it so good
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>>539689223
That color is not what Toriyama went for. Some of you keep insisting on red, when it's a shade of pink.
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>>539690865
Trvke
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>>539690554
>Marketing fluff
If he designed it art would have come out.
>>539690865
Yeah this is 100% what I'm saying. If your only proof is "This guy said he did it!" in a medium where you can easily release artwork posthumously like they did with picrel, then that guy is lying.
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>>539690865
I disagree. Daima was initially pitched as a homage to GT so I believe SS4 was always intended to show up. Toriyama might have taken over and rewrote everything, but the core plot points of Goku turning back into a child and going on an adventure for the Dragon Balls and then transforming into SS4 remained.
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>>539690767
yaoihands saiyan 4 will never look good.
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>>539690405
everybody forgets Nion
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>>539691354
...is what I would say if she was a Saiyan, which she isn't and as such she doesn't belong with the rest of them.
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>>539691294
They’re ape hands.
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Speaking of, how did you guys feel about Daima Goku in general?
I personally felt like Daima Goku from EP 1-9 was the best Goku we've had in years. No Tardku nonsense, no endangering innocents, no "Meditating? That ain't trainin!" Bullshit.
Then he kinda falls down after that
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>>539691242
>If he designed it art would have come out.
We still haven't seen Toriyama's Beast Gohan or any of nuBroly states. Stop being in denial.
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>>539691470
>Bossu gets a fake tail to have it pulled
You monsters corrupted her!
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>>539691584
>I personally felt like Daima Goku from EP 1-9 was the best Goku we've had in years.
He fun, aside from the "I'm so hungry" jokes, they were way too repetitive.

I don't think he falls off afterwards, from beginning to end he was the same imo.
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>>539664148
Lazuli, Mai, or Erasa
they seem like they'd be the least pushy and aggressive
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>>539657418
buu is cool but he's unusable ass
all the technicals are bad besides krillin
haven't unlocked hit yet but I heard he's good
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You guys think future heroes will be added to the current Star Reward list or will they be permanently locked out of it?
I can see bamco's shit being so clunky they can't just add them to the Tier VI, III, II, and I shit
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>No Tardku nonsense
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NU7WZwqFbXg
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mg8fGrBDSNQ
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eo31zKVNHSk
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zQUlf-LsFt0
Repeat the above one 20 times (never once is it funny)
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>>539691470
>>539691632
Pull... boss tail... yes, yes!
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>>539691083
Same
>>539691242
Nakatsuru isn't a marketing guy and could have easily just claimed the design like he did for GT.
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>>539691354
>Blue hair
Not a saiyan
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>>539691354
made for footjobs and nipple torture
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>>539664517
>Nadolny doing a gruff SSJ4 voice
kek
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>>539692007
>You guys think future heroes will be added to the current Star Reward list or will they be permanently locked out of it?
I think they'll add them there or on their own seasonal unlock pass or something like that.
>>539691584
>Speaking of, how did you guys feel about Daima Goku in general?
He was adorable, which is what Goku should always be, even as an adult.
His fights were fun and you could really tell he was enjoying himself, which again is important to portray Goku right.
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>>539692064
kek, that's our tardku
classic
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>>539692064
What a filler podophilic scat fantasy show
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>>539692064
I never got why people act like the fart joke makes him retarded
He farted, tried to hide it, then got caught.
That's no where near the same level of retard that Super Goku pulled with his "EHHHH, DOES THIS MASK MAKE YOU SUPER STRONG THEN????"
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>>539691252
The entire transformation sequence makes zero sense, specially with the reveal that he actually trained off-screen for it before Daima began. No way they had "Goku WILL turn into SSJ4 here" in mind from the start and that's what they came up with.
I think it's very likely from the giant episode/that one episode where they lose to generic soldiers while refusing to transform that the original idea was to have the entire cast being utterly powerless, but at some point they just decided to just rewrite a large portion of it to just have their powers to be pretty much the same and added SSJ3/SSJ4 at the end when even that didn't fix the plot
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>>539657418
Good Buu literally is one of my top 3 favorite characters. He just unfortunately fucking sucks. I never liked Frieza too much but him calling people monkeys and ordering around Zarbon and Dodoria has made him slightly endearing to me so I certainly don't mind playing him.
I would play Krillin more if I could stand him. 17 is kinda cool I guess, his English voice is whiny though. I think Hit's power is cool but I don't like playing him. I don't feel strongly on Kid Gohan or his moveset.
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did anyone like Glorio?
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Remember how people insist that Vegeta actually has Dark Brown hair
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>>539691354
She's cute. I didn't know she had a name.
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>>539657418
>Buu
>Gohan
>Krillin
>17
>Freeza
All S tier character
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>>539690968
>don't stick your dick in a Saiyan female
She will force you to train until you're stronger than her and you'll like it!
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Man 17 is a pretty fun technical to play.

Shame about his barrier knuckle though. Complete garbage, I'd sooner just save that level 7 point for when I hit level 8 to get my level 2 super and a level 3 barrioer kick.
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>>539692465
Retarded toei filler doing what it does best. To this day most people depict Vegetto with dark brown hair.
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>>539692462
I did. It's a shame he had to have all his screentime cannibalized by fucking Vegeta again.
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>>539685531
Caulifla and Selipa would enjoy doing that just fine
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>>539689471
Good thing the cringe of this series filtered me out before I even tried to play these games.
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>>539692138
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>>539692593
Fucking stupid
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>>539660642
>Damage
Android 13
>Tech
Meta-Cooler
>Tank
Bio-Broly
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>>539680184
UE is about ego. feeding desire. Goku's variant of it would be him falling to the temptation of his battle lust; waku waku taken to its logical conclusion.
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>>539692172
Rom...
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>>539692661
Do girls like it when you pull out a butt plug?
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Every female character should have a saiyan armor
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>>539692608
>It's a shame he had to have all his screentime cannibalized by fucking Vegeta again.
Not like Glorio was doing anything before Vegeta took over anyway.
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>>539692403
He was particularly retarded in that chapter for some reason lol
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>>539692807
Crazy this isn't official. Every wife should try on their husband's battle suit at least once so they can sell figures for it.
>>539692462
Literal nothing character. Half baked with no arc or emotional moments to speak of. In a series that thrives off of character interactions no less.
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>>539669368
I take Light Grenade first in the case I end up at level 2, then Arm, then Hellzone Grenade at level 7 when I have to after leveling up the others to 2.
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>>539692964
I don't mind a gag of Goku mixing up some random guy for 17, but it's so weird for him to think the mask makes 17 stronger. Should've noticed the guy has ki to sense too.
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>>539692462
he's the type of character that should have gotten a backstory, but they'd rather show us how the mcguffin eye got lost (dabura just told some cockroach to hide it, no reasons why) and how the multiverse was created (doesn't matter because daima is its own thing)
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>>539683138
>Goku if she designed by Robert Crumb
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>>539642220
>meanwhile nobody gives a fuck about Towa
The amount of fanart 21gets is basically in lower end of the main girls cast
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>>539683138
Would
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>>539692793
girl here, yes
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>>539691470
>>539691632
what a fucking slut
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>>539693294
Why?
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>>539692871
He did a few cool thing, like threaten the inn guy and stuff.
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>>539693402
it's a rush of excitement and pleasure
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>>539693243
Why's this listing not including game characters? No Chronoa or Towa or any of Heroes demon girls. Can't be because of amount of porn, since Chronoa has more than Zangya. No Pan too...
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Remove all Vegeta stuff, use that screentime to expend on Glorio's backstory, Arinsu connection and split loyalty.
There, fixed it.
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>>539693639
You aren't a woman
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Daima Kai when
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>>539693762
correct xhey aren't
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>>539693639
Do you wear monkey tail butt plugs often? Do you enjoy getting them pulled?
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>>539693702
Cute
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>>539685486
>>539688103
>>539691470
>>539693702
It's kinda surreal getting fanart of my mod, but definitely appreciated
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>>539693579
IIRC the most he did was in the second and third episodes, and the fight with Goku. Afterwards he's just there, acting suspicious since he works for Arinsu, and occasionally Goku forgetting his name.
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Wait a second... what if tail puller anon is a woman??
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>>539665019
>Piccolo, Daima, and Freeza buffs
>No Cooler or Spamku or Trunks DMG nerfs
Ok
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>>539692712
Metal Cooler will be our Meepo
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>>539694072
Nerfs are lame, everyone should feel very strong since this is a DB game.
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>>539692647
>Cringe
More like kino
You had to be there
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>>539687190
it's a good way to get SSJ kid Goku outside of GT, but the problem is he'd be totally OP in terms of power compared to what else he has to face from then on. He'd nuke King Piccolo and the 23rd Tenkaichi. Raditz would then show up and get obliterated before he can transmit anything useful to Vegeta and Nappa. They might show up anyway just to see how Raditz got killed so quick, only for themselves to get obliterated instantly. No Namek or anything.
I guess it works as an alt story but it doesn't go anywhere interesting. Maybe Vegeta Raditz and Nappa offer a partnership to kill Frieza as a foursome, so you can storm the Frieza Force with all the remaining saiyans together?
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>>539660642
>Damage
Chichi
>Tech
Bulma
>Tank
Videl.
>>539694147
Who?
Also V-Jump scans are out.
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>>539694156
Everyone should feel strong but matches in the second half shouldn't be decided by "okay, do I engage or- oh nope nevermind I just got spirit bomb'd"
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>>539693892
I do and yeah of course!
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>>539694072
Trunks is a pubstomper.
Against a decent tank he can have a rough early game, and if the enemy DPS and technical doesn't show up to fights at half health he can have a little trouble getting resets.
Solid Barrier keeps him in check more than anything. Trunks wants to go in fast and hard because when everything's on cooldown he's shit out of luck.

Cooler's entire shtick is being aggressive. He should be rewarded for going ham on shit.
I think he's great and probably a little overtuned but a lot of it is that people are just playing right in to him.
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>>539694348
Dodging the Genkidama is easy IMO.
If anything Trunks tend to be the one who delete me in the endgame.
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>>539692159
it's dyed
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>>539694072
Nerfs are low iq, you always buff weaker characters first and go from there
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>>539694286
Androids would still happen. Either a YamchaTrunks or someone else goes to the past or maybe just normal Trunks since his timeline is different or maybe no one goes to the past and Goku dies of a heart virus. Assuming they get the aloof but not evil Androids and 19/20 instead of the evil Androids it could be interesting seeing how they handle them once Cell shows up, assuming he still does. Would basically be a Cell Saga without Goku or Vegeta. Or just one without Vegeta. So it ends at Semi-Perfect Cell. Then Buu happens. No Vegeta so he doesn't get revived and they kill Dabura after training... then Beerus happens... and he doesn't fight them because no one upsets him... no Res F... then U6 happens and Earth gets swapped but they can just use the Namek Balls to get out of that one... then Goku Black happens and they all die maybe? ToP probably goes fine since the Pride Troopers clear and Toppo probably wishes the universes back. Then everyone finally dies for real this time when Cell Max goes loose. Or they blow up the planet and put it somewhere else after reviving everyone with the Dragon Balls.

Anyway that's the story of SSJ Kid Goku!
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>>539683138
artist?
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One thing I realized about playing Gohan or Buu is that if your partner leaves, is AWK, or is just an idiot is that you sacrifice the lane altogether and go to the other one. Trying to mount any sort of defense by yourself will be a waste of time even if there'a a mental barrier to giving up "half the game like that".
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>>539695018
https://x.com/susumeyagisawa
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>>539694072
I'd like to just see a CD nerf on spirit bomb. 90 seconds is way too short for such a powerful super, even kale's super has a longer cool down.

Make it like 2 or even 2 and a half minutes.
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>>539694286
>>539694964
The real answer is that Goku would probably just average out since he probably wouldn't get stronger in base much.
The problem then become that without the massive SSJ boost on top of a massive base power, Goku get hard stopped by Freeza.
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>>539694286
>He'd nuke King Piccolo and the 23rd Tenkaichi.
You can make a point he would kill King Piccolo even before he spit an egg, no Piccolo afterwards.

>Raditz would then show up and get obliterated before he can transmit anything useful to Vegeta and Nappa. They might show up anyway just to see how Raditz got killed so quick, only for themselves to get obliterated instantly.
Ironically, if Vegeta can go Oozaru, he would win.

>Maybe Vegeta Raditz and Nappa offer a partnership to kill Frieza as a foursome, so you can storm the Frieza Force with all the remaining saiyans together?
Goku wouldn't really have any reason to accept it.

>>539694964
>Androids would still happen.
Very differently too, since Gero stopped watching after saiyan saga, so in this case he would have seen the super saiyan.
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>>539695213
He'd never meet Frieza assuming he's strong enough to wash Vegeta hard enough.
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>>539694964
the androids would be tuned for SSJ-tier strength, meaning a YamTrunks would be dead instantly from his first attempt at fighting them. Cell also would be radically different because SSJ Goku would've made the Piccolos look like utter chumps (and potentially never shown off their regeneration abilitt causing Gero to never consider using their DNA). He'd be pure Goku. at this point we're having to invent and create entirely new characters which goes beyond what the What-Ifs usually entail.
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>>539695329
Freeza would become Earth's problem one way or another one day.
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>>539695323
>Very differently too, since Gero stopped watching after saiyan saga, so in this case he would have seen the super saiyan.
Ooh shit
Uber 17 and 18 probably slap the shit out of Cell then unless his timeline is adjusted, or Dr Gero and 19 are so unbelievably powerful they just solo and everyone has zero chance.
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>>539695323
No Piccolo means no DBs tho, that's a problem.
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>>539694286
Goku might have lost to Vegeta in that scenario. Kaio training made him go up almost 20-fold before we even get into Kaioken. And Kid Goku that just obliterates Piccolo might not get any Kami training even which would make his base form even weaker.
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>>539695658
>which would make his base form even weaker.
It would also make him less skilled as a martial artist.
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>>539695485
Depends, if he meets Babidi first he gets slaughtered by Dabura or turned into a minion. That awakened potential could make him Golden or at least way higher than everything else but either way I don't think he has the will to break the mind control so Babidi just wins the setting.
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>>539695157
Truly Scrumptious

>>539695323
Great Ape is only worth 10x power, SSJ is around 50x if we take Toriyama literally. regardless, Goku wouldn't let the fight go that far. He'd go SSJ right off the bat and be so far ahead of Vegeta he'd fire a kamehameha and Vegeta would be atomised.
I'd wager he'd naturally gravitate towards the 'full time super saiyan' thing after he first transforms, because he'd have had access to it for so long by then.
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>>539694286
I think the best I've seen it implemented was that side bit from Tuffle Quest, where it's portrayed as kinda a bad or at least more tragic thing.
>(Path to Power) Kid Goku goes Super Saiyan and kills King Piccolo
>Kami dies with him, no Dragon Balls, Krillin, Roshi, Chiaotzu, and even Tien dead
>Kid Goku ends up going to Namek with Bulma with Popo's help getting Kami's ship
>Has to face challenges there basically alone, Nail ends up a hard roadblock he can't beat ecen with Super Saiyan
>Has to learn how to control that power without losing himself to it, and not repeat killing King Piccolo
>Still implied to be too far ahead of anyone for them to catch up in a reasonable time frame now, so he faces more challenges alone, friends left even further in the dust even quicker
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>>539695658
it would be silly to suggest base form Saiyan Saga Vegeta could beat a super saiyan, regardless of how weak the super saiyan is in his base form. totally trivialises the transformation. (of course, the series itself kinda does that anyway, but still)
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>>539695916
SSJ Goku would actually be weaker than Vegeta. Assuming his base is only half as strong as he was in canon, 200 x 50 = 10K.
Even the 2x from the Super Kamehameha like he used on Raditz would have fall short of Vegeta's 24K Galick Gun.
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>>539660642
>Damage: Gotenks (SSJ3)
>Technical: Arale
>Tank: Majin Duu
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>>539695930
... I totally forgot killing KP would kill Kami and erase the dragon balls
I guess then as a more tragic take on the story there's something there
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>>539695916
Start of Z Goku is merely 416. It's reasonable to assume he'd be actually weaker in that timeline as he might not get 3 years of godly training. I'd say 20k is an upper bound for SS Goku when Vegeta shows up. KKx3 canon Goku in Vegeta's fight is 24k+.
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Honestly? The Conton City Patrol stuff got me hyped, it seems to be exactly the kind of stuff I wanted XV2 to do.
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>>539695323
>he would win.
he could win*. If his tail is cut he'd lose all the same.

>>539695416
>at this point we're having to invent and create entirely new characters which goes beyond what the What-Ifs usually entail.
Yeah. A change as radical as "SS1 Goku vs King Piccolo" would snowball hard.

>Uber 17 and 18 probably slap the shit out of Cell then unless his timeline is adjusted, or Dr Gero and 19 are so unbelievably powerful they just solo and everyone has zero chance.
Yeah. We could also have androids taking longer to happen because Gero spends more time in his lab.

>No Piccolo means no DBs tho, that's a problem.
Yes. Way too many things could change. SS1 that early on could make things grim. Specially a Goku that early getting it. In Namek Goku had great emotional control thanks to Popo's training, even with all of his rage (He tried to spare Freeza twice, and was clearly disappointed he had to kill), Goku as a teen was a lot more out of control whenever he got pissed, he could end up more like a worse SS2 Gohan while transformed.

>>539695658
Oh yes, great point! Popo's training is what really pushed Goku into a great martial artist. Before that he was very good at mimicking, but not at hiding his ki and whatnot.

>>539695916
>He'd go SSJ right off the bat and be so far ahead of Vegeta he'd fire a kamehameha and Vegeta would be atomised.
Goku doesn't really do that. Unless Vegeta did something to really piss him off, chances are he'd let Vegeta transform.

>>539695930
Now that I think of it some more, Goku going to Namek is a little weird, Popo didn't even know Kami's house was a ship, or knew about Namek, before saiyans came around and explained Piccolo was a Namekian... Still more effort put into it than the usual what ifs though, if only because things don't try to line up with canon.
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>>539689517
>Vegeta’s scene in the trailer was obviously a transformation
of which Vegeta though?
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>>539696448
Yeah it's cool that they're still adding in new mechanics like that so late into the game
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>>539696029
It's bad way to look at it. It doesn't trivialize the form, it underscores the importance of Goku's journey before that point.
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>>539689517
Maybe it's a powering up intro, like UI Goku's.
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>>539696461
>Goku wouldn't do that
he would if some psychopath showed up and threatened his family. especially considering, as you noted, no Kami training and therefore more emotionally volatile. Raditz no doubt would've strongly soured him on saiyans (he probably would've rocked up and tried the "bring me a pile of dead earthlings and agree to come with me or I'll kill you and your family" schtick) so when Vegeta shows up and tries to do the same thing, Goku would've put his foot down immediately and not given Vegeta the chance.
I can see Goku attempting to spare Raditz, who tries some sneaky shit like he did in canon (maybe takes a shot at Gohan or somebody when Goku isn't looking) causing Goku to go full No Mercy on anyone else claiming to be a saiyan.
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>>539696915
People tend to forget that the form shouldn't overshadow the character, otherwise you end up with Goten and Trunks, who are completely overshadowed by Gotenks.
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>>539689471
this is a good explanation the same way yanderedev's code is good code
like any other series ever you just do it in release order, chronological order is for people that know the ins and outs of something and want to give it a new spin and that goes for everything out there

though it does remind me of stuff like Ys, i know very little about it but what i know is that every game has the same protagonist at different points in his life, so to make it make sense for new players said protagonist starts every game by being amnesiac or something like that, it's hilarious
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>>539696915
If we're being like that then Goku shouldn't be able to reach SSJ as a kid because he needed the emotional and physical development he had up to Namek to be able to unlock the form in the first place. If we're making concessions for Kid Goku to have the form at all we have to make the concession that it allows him to dogwalk basically every pre-Frieza enemy he faces. otherwise, why even have it? who would want a story where the legendary Super Saiyan struggles to take on Nappa? it would be lame, and fundamentally What Its need to be cool and fun for the player. Bullying your way through a fight that in canon Goku only barely survived is fun. getting the same fight outcome but with different hair really isn't.
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>>539697432
I think it just proves that they understand Kubota's art style better than they do Shintani's.
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>>539697387
>so to make it make sense for new players said protagonist starts every game by being amnesiac or something like that, it's hilarious
He actually start each game by being ship wrecked or having fucked up and lost all the magical shit from the previous game.
It helps that his one actual skill is his crazy swordmanship, everything else is blessing or item based so if he loses the items or leave the blessing's area of power, he's back to 0.
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>>539697230
that's more because Gotenks is technically a separate character rather than just a transformation. it's like if Goku needed to mitosis off another Goku to go super saiyan. SSJ Goku is still Goku, just a lot stronger. Gotenks isn't just Goten or Trunks, he's a third dude
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>>539692712
Can 13 have this as one of his moves
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>>539697761
Nah, fusions aren't independent beings, otherwise a lot of stuff would stop making sense.
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>>539697742
>or having fucked up and lost all the magical shit from the previous game.
this is another thing in common with kingdom hearts, every game where Sora is the protagonist manages to have the game before it have him lose all his powers somehow, to justify him being back at level 1 in the new game. I don't think they do it on purpose, it's just that it happened every time he's the playable character, and it's happening now too going in KH4
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I literally forgot about bio broly
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>>539698157
Yeah but it make less sense because a lot of Sora's powers are inherent, he can't just drop his magic knowledge while Avdol literally can just drop his 10th level Gem of the Dragon God.
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>>539697538
like, there's a reason why the first time canon ever shows a base form saiyan fighting on equal footing to a super saiyan is Broly in the Super Broly movie, and it's such a novel concept that Goku has a line specifically noting it. and Broly can only do it because he's the literal Legendary Saiyan, and he STILL had to rely on a quasi transformation to pull it off.

>>539697945
they are. Gotenks refers to himself as his own guy, and both Gogeta and Vegito talk as if Goku and Vegeta are distinct from him, not to mention the distinct personality (Vegito being levek-headed and tactical, Gogeta being a bit conceited and childish in a way Goku isn't). It's a case of both character's memories and thoughts merging into a new body to form a new unique individual comprised of those fused memories and thoughts. like, you mix blue and yellow paint and get green paint. and when they defuse, they retain the memories not only from the events they experienced during the fusion but also gain access to the memories of the other fusee from before they fused (in the Goku Black arc, after Vegito defuses, Vegeta notes he can remember some form of training Goku did on his own and hadn't told Vegeta about).
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>>539697217
>especially considering, as you noted, no Kami training and therefore more emotionally volatile.
Actually, good point... I don't think he would be permanently emotionally volatile, but if he doesn't train with someone who teaches him how to control his emotions, he'd at least be more irritable as a SS1.

>I can see Goku attempting to spare Raditz, who tries some sneaky shit like he did in canon (maybe takes a shot at Gohan or somebody when Goku isn't looking) causing Goku to go full No Mercy on anyone else claiming to be a saiyan.
I feel Goku would at least give them a chance to prove him wrong, but the moment they don't, yeah, he'd likely just kill them.

>>539697538
I feel that if Goku gets SS1 early on it would change a lot. He can bully his way to saiyan saga and maybe even Vegeta crush Vegeta, but imo, he should be a worse martial artist, and as a result, worse at getting stronger, just so the story has something besides just Goku Mary Sueing his way through the arcs.
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Is there a Z Rank past S in Squadra?
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>>539698613
Nah, otherwise you wouldn't see Goku and Vegeta fight over what they did as a fusion, Gotenks and Gogeta being chill with unfusing, Vegito going out of his way to unfuse or Kibito Kai also going out of his way to unfuse.
I just don't see Toriyama having Kibito Kai basically committing suicide in mind when he made that plot point.
>, Vegeta notes he can remember some form of training Goku did on his own and hadn't told Vegeta about)
I don't think it's in the anime.
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>>539697929
That'll be his legendary rush finisher.
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>>539698795
ultimately SSJ is a Mary Sue form. it was introduced as a way for Goku to utterly humiliate and dominate a guy who up to that point was presented as the strongest being in the galaxy. the androids and especially Cell undo this, but it's because they were intentionally designed to counter saiyans and their absurd power boosts. Nobody before then was equipped to handle a saiyan going all-out. there's a reason why Frieza holocausted them
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>>539698613
>and Broly can only do it because he's the literal Legendary Saiyan
Two different Brolys. Super Broly is just a mutant.

>and he STILL had to rely on a quasi transformation to pull it off.
That semi-Oozaru form was only used against SSG Vegeta iirc.
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>>539698990
they're like Shadow Clones in Naruto. they have sapience and personalities and agency but also are fundamentally aware they're not permanent beings and therefore have no inherent desire to continue living as a unique entity. They're written in such a way that the 'self-preservation' question is never brought up because DBZ just isn't that kind of show.
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>>539697432
They literally look Shintani styled, retard, just compare SS4 Goku model to the other games.
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>>539699375
Kibito Kai IS a permanent being tho. Hell, Elder Kaioshin IS a fusion too.
It make more sense if it works like Namekian fusion as explained by Nail.
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>>539699242
he went into Ikari pretty much as soon as the fight started. his eyes were golden from the minute he took a swing at Vegeta. That's why he was a grunting retard the entire time. there's two separate versions of Ikari, that they never really bothered to explain. there's the regular version with normal hair and gold eyes, then the super version with spiked up hair and gold eyes. the second version is kinda like False SSJ from the Lord Slug movie.
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>>539699242
>That semi-Oozaru form was only used against SSG Vegeta iirc.
Yeah, until then he was in base.
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>>539699571
and both of them are treated as distinct individuals separate from the people who fused into them.
Namekian fusion is different because they can to choose how much or how little the end result is influenced by either of the fusions. Kami and King Piccolo's Nameless Namekian origin was a separate guy from Kami and KP, whereas Nail basically lets Piccolo have all his strength with none of his personality. Vegito isn't just Vegeta or Goku but stronger, he acts nothing like either. the story isn't even consistent on pronouns (might be a translation error, I dunno) because sometimes they use 'we' and sometimes use 'I'.
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>>539700039
>and both of them are treated as distinct individuals separate from the people who fused into them.
Kibito Kai wasn't, he went out of his way to unfuse and it's mentioned as Nahare and Kibito's decision.
And Elder Kaioshin is basically treated like he's his pre-fusion self, just with a witch absorbed.
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>>539700274
like I said, they're like shadow clones in Naruto. distinct sapient entities that understand their existence is transient and therefore have no desire to prolong their existence beyond what is necessary.
Also, Kai fusions are a little different from mortal fusions. Super expands on that. they fuse appearances but with one dominant personality. mortals have fused personalities. like I said, compare how Vegito and Gogeta act.
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>>539699601
I don't know about that. Was there any mention of it development? In the movie itself, Goku notes Broly is fighting in base, and when Broly goes Ikari, that's when Paragus explains what's up. We do have one shot of yellow eyed Broly when SS1 Vegeta punches him though, but they're back to black afterwards, up until he goes Ikari.
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>>539700720
But they aren't transient, like I said.
>Super expands on that. they fuse appearances but with one dominant personality.
Super just said mortals that fused with Potaras are temporary while if a God is involved, it's permanent. It made no other distinction between fusion types.
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>ikari
lmao weeb
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we will find out how far they push skins that change the base model of the character, or just change the colors
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>>539701062
>Was there any mention of it development?
No, none of what that anon said is ever mentioned anywhere as far as I know.
>>539701253
Based rule 63 game.
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>>539700720
Vegito and Gogeta act slightly different than Goku and Vegeta because they're a mixed consciousness of Goku and Vegeta, they aren't an independent consciousness.
It's basically just Goku and Vegeta being mind-melded and piloting a body together.
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>>539701183
again, observe their personalities. neither Vegito nor Gogeta act like either of their fusees. Vegito is cool and calculating, Gogeta is a cocky manchild.
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>>539701507
that means it's a distinct individual. the paint comparison is apt. green paint still has both the blue and yellow pigments in it, they're just mixes to make a new green pigment. You could (theoretically) separate the two and get back to the blue and yellow paints.
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>>539699505
>no overtly curved eyes
>no overtly rounded face
>no skinny body
>no huge nose
>almost 1:1 for how he looks in the anime as opposed to the base game and Super Hero characters who have most if not all of these traits listed
>more faithful to Daima than all the other games, only bested in one aspect by Xenoverse who got the eye shape more accurate
Why are you such a lying ape?
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>>539701923
Gogeta and Vegito act very similar if not the same, they're pretty no-nonsense
Compare Broly, Zamasu, Buu, and Janemba
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>>539702109
>that means it's a distinct individual.
No, it doesn't, it means the opposite. There's no 'Gogeta' consciousness, it's just Goku and Vegeta piloting the body while in a weird mixed mind-state, there's no gap in their consciousness.
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Daima SSJ4's freakish ape arms are gross.
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>>539701923
That doesn't address what I said at all.
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>>539702341
Vegito intentionally riles up Buu to bait him into absorbing him so he can then save the other people he's absorbed. that's a level of foresight and planning that neither Vegeta nor Goku have ever used. Gogeta meanwhile is enough of a manchild that he wastes time coming up with a "cool name", again something neither Vegeta nor Goku would be concerned with on their own.

>>539702484
green paint is just blue and yellow paint mixed. it's still fundamentally blue and yellow paint at its core.
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>>539702817
Gogeta spends all of five seconds thinking he can't go by "Vegito" before jumping into battle, don't be obtuse
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>>539702676
Impressive combo.
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>>539702817
>Gogeta meanwhile is enough of a manchild that he wastes time coming up with a "cool name"
I wonder if this is a fusion dance thing. Goten and Trunks are kid characters having fun, but Gotenks takes that trait way too far, and when Gogeta was wondering what name he should pick to sound cool, I immediately thought he was sounding like Gotenks.
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>>539703228
Maybe the Metamorans were goofballs and their technique includes this like it does their clothing?
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>>539695916
This is the most ooc Goku I've heard of
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The more I play 17 the more I feel this character is just underpowered as hell. His s1 is just a generic skillshot whose gimmick is too situational to ever come into play, s2 is just a shittier version of gohan's kick and s3 is a shield that rarely protects anyone since it's so fucking short (seriously it's insane how weak the shield is since it's literally the only thing this skill does, it's not like it heals or anything, in any other moba this would be considered worthless)
The only extra effect from his passive that is worth shit is the stun on s2 but this requires you to put yourself in melee range as character that is very squishy, it's very risky, it also has a very annoying tendency to miss people who are at the tip but still clearly in range, like it has no fucking hitbox at all. The movement speed on s3 isn't as good as it sounds because using it requires you to stop in place (unlike Frieza's s3 for example).
The ult ALWAYS loses against enemy ults unless you are overleveled, it's fucking ridiculous, his trailer is legit false advertisement. It's fucking stupid that an ult that is reactive in nature loses against the things it's supposed to be countering, and the cooldown is so long too.
He felt good against shitters when I was starting but now that I'm in high rank he honestly just feels useless. I win noticeably more with Frieza, a character that is getting buffed next patch.
I rarely see people using him anymore too, in high rank now it's just Krillin, Hit and Gohan so I guess people are agreeing with me.
Genuinely don't understand why so many people rate him so highly.
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>>539697217
You're completely ignoring the utter mind break Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz would get upon seeing a super Saiyan. They wouldn't even try fighting him. Super saiyans are a god in Saiyan mythology.
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>>539703762
People were jerking off for the last 2 or 3 threads but I've never really seen him do anything.
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>>539703762
17's barrier skill is like Sona's W in league of legends... if that skill required you to stop in place to use it, didn't heal in addition to shielding and also only gave shield the moment you activate it as opposed to giving it to anyone who comes into range for the next several seconds. Yeah, it's shit
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>>539699601
They're the same form but it was a delayed and exaggerated transformation. That was my interpretation.
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>>539703460
Maybe. In that case you could say it affected Gotenks more because he was having fun, while Gogeta just thought a name would sound cool, then went on to fight Broly like Goku/Vegeta would.

That being said, Goten and Trunks were planning to fuck around against Super Buu, and Gotenks just followed their plans... Even so, Gotenks really likes to exaggerate things as much as possible, while Goten and Trunks fought normally the few times they did.
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>>539703228
From empirical evidence, fusion dance fusions are both weaker and dumber than Potara fusions.
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>>539702484
You are the worst listener in this thread.
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>>539703762
Sounds like a skill issue.
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>>539704245
Yeah, I don't get it either. And I didn't post that because I dislike him, I do like him, I've been trying really fucking hard to make him work against competent players but nothing works. I've tried ratlike backdooring builds, full tank builds, damage oriented builds, I've tried to play map control, I've tried pocketing teammates, I've found nothing that works. If you are playig against good opponents he's just bad.
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>>539704945
Your theory is just wrong and doesn't make sense.
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>>539702676
you're crazy. awesome stuff
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Holding hands with Caule
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>>539705301
That was adorable
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>>539705301
This is the second time I've seen it suggested the universe 6 saiyans should have their own version of fusion reborn.
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>>539705301
>inherits kale's shyness and caulifla's accidental flirtatiousness to end up becoming a massive cocktease
frightening...
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>>539705301
Cringe fanfic Janemba would rape universe 6
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>>539705583
So regular Janemba wouldn't?
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>>539705301
>Caule Beast
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>>539705583
due to the unfathomable powercliffing in Super Cabba would solo dunk on every single movie villain combined lmao
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>>539705015
Maybe. I am willing to admit that there might be something about the character I'm missing.
However, I just went to check my battle history. Literally not a single 17 player other than myself in my last 20 games. This is at A1 rank. Instead the supposedly hard to play Hit and supposedly weaker Gohan are very common.
So if there's a secret strength to the character, it seems many people are missing it as well.
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>>539706015
>due to the unfathomable powercliffing in Super
Every Saga in DB always powercliff the Saga before it.
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>teammate on both sides disconnects
>team can't backdoor for shit
>we lose because their goku just spirit bombs each teamfight
I genuinely don't have the patience to sit at GoD for 5 minutes waiting for the enemy to slip up. Wouldn't have worked anyways because all Goku needed to do was show up with spirit bomb to wipe team again. Retard kept trying to backdoor into frieza though.
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>>539664517
Did they do some graphical touchups here or what?
I am not talking about the models. The game (Or stage) itself does look a bit more pretty than usual.
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>>539705681
You're funny
>>539706015
I know. I live inside my mind where that is the case
>>539706124
Pui pui isn't even freeza level. Chichi would lose to 21st Tenkaichi roshi. Mid antagonists like cabbage typically don't powercliff that hard. It hurts more when it's a race we're familiar with.
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>>539703762
Agreed, currently A2 solo queue Tech main here. He's not Buu tiers of garbage but is definitely on the weaker end; can't kill and steal bosses like Frieza and Krillin, not as powerful a pocket as Gohan, and not as good as an rat/assassin like Hit (and for a rat, definitely not as good as Frieza).
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>>539706681
>Pui pui isn't even freeza level.
No proof of that.
> Chichi would lose to 21st Tenkaichi roshi
Official info says she's Piccolo Daimao level.
>Mid antagonists like cabbage typically don't powercliff that hard.
Dabura would say otherwise.
Also Cabba wasn't 1 saga after the Buu Saga, he's 3 sagas later, it's like comparing Raditz to Dabura.
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>>539703762
>>539704245
There were a lot of youtubers predicting he would be broken based on his trailer alone, as if those weren't designed to make the character look good. I guess that's why he is so overrated. To be fair the trailer did make it seem like his super skill was good enough to flat out nullify enemy supers when that's not really the case. Goku laughs at 17's barriers
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>>539707237
Ok
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End of Z with DBS and Daima's events in mind is so funny.
>Goku fought an opponent much stronger than him in Daima
>Obtained SS4, Gomah's regeneration was too much
>Beerus shows up, Goku obtains SSG, not enough to win
>Freeza comes back, stronger than SSB until he runs out of stamina
>Universe 6 tournament, Hit is either a weaker than SSB (Manga) or beyond it (Anime)
>Future Trunks arc, Black is around or stronger than Goku/Vegeta
>Jiren is stronger and a better fighter than Goku
>Broly is so strong he may be stronger than Beerus, and Goku wants to train him
>In the manga, Goku fought Beasthan
>Despite this, Goku hasn't been so happy to fight someone like Uub in a long time
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>Uub goes afk partway through the match
>they have all of their players
>win anyway
LMAO
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>>539707768
The only excuse you can come up with is he's excited to groom uub into being like himself. Uub is someone he feels responsible for and Goku sees as the next protector of earth.
Fairly weak. They should have never made super or daima and GT is shit.
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>>539706794
It's a shame because I like playing support in these games, but the two most support like characters Buu and 17 both feel really weak. Didn’t Buu have a pathetically low winrate in the test? And they still didn't buff him? I don't get it man.
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>>539655589
This
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>>539707768
We will never see Super content post EoZ
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>>539707237
Pui Pui thought being able to withstand 10 times Earth's gravity was impressive, which is the standard for even low class saiyans. Even with his majin boost, he's a shitter. Nappa could probably beat him
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HOLY SHIT STOP GIVING ME CELL JR EX GAMES I HATE SEEING SOMEONE BEING LEVEL 10 BY THE SECOND FUCKING BOSS
>>539708967
Buu was actually good in the first test iirc, then nerfed for the second. He was buffed compared to the second test but still not as good as the first.
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This is still peak Gohan
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>>539664517
Wow this guy is shit, no playable Tamagamis?
Not even Gandalf the Green? Hell you could actually do both in junction, he could be the FighterZ Ginyu of the game.
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>>539709262
...because it will be called dragon ball Ultra
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>>539692357
I want more scat...
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>>539709309
Gravity is just a thing you get used to rather than a power level thing in DB, 10 times gravity was the natural gravity of his home planet and he was right it'd be an advantage if it was against someone who never experienced that gravity.
>He's a shitter
By the Buu saga standard, yes, he'd probably still one shot Freeza, especially since Nahare was worried about him.
>Nappa
Nappa wouldn't have survived a single punch from any Vegeta.
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>nahare
Who is that? A shitty oc?
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>>539709705
Shin's real name according to Daima
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>>539692462
His name is Gorilou
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>>539709742
It's crazy they never gave him a name until now.
How many characters are still nameless? Roshi's one.
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>>539708967
>And they still didn't buff him?
I think they're wary of buffing a healer, but some of the things he has are not impressive
>skill 1, 2 and ult fill up a gauge that increases his rush attack's damage, but it's little
>skill 3 seems more like an escape option than an offensive one. It has uses to push someone away but then Buu himself is at risk
>ult doesn't last that long all things considered, and if Buu eats the opponents, once they come out they can attack him immediately, though he does get healed after eating them, and his gauge is filled
Just sucks how half assed he is...
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>>539692462
I don't care about him
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>>539692964
Left: Toriyama vision noone at Shueisha dared to obstruct
Right: Toei vision Toriyama detested
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>>539709817
Elder Kaioshin STILL doesn't have a name.
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>>539709817
>How many characters are still nameless?
The Namekian Piccolo and Kami used to be. Crane Elder. Elder Kaioshin.
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>>539709817
most of the universe 7 kais still don't have names, king kai being the obvious big one
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Do they need to have names? Feels like over explaining
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>>539709370
Trvke
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>>539710160
Giving a character a name is pretty important, especially if there's multiple characters sharing their titles.
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>>539710223
why is Pan on team Vegeta
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>>539710160
How the hell is naming a character 'overexplaining'?
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>>539710223
>Pan positioned like she's Vegeta's pupil
Who's writing this? Salagir?
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>>539710354
grandpa didn't stick around to teach her sexually so she's siding with veggie out of spite
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>>539710354
She's clearly the protagonist.
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>hit A1
I think I can get S today. These games are getting tough. Barely clutched the last one by Supernovaing Jaco to steal him, wasn't even on screen. Both Dragon Shells were exposed at the end too.
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I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEENI
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>>539710470
>sexually
Based
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>>539710378
Ruins magic of the setting. Like how George Lucas never revealed Yoda's name. Shin's name didn't need to be revealed. That was totally pointless and a waste of time.
>>539710354
A very common idea in the fandom is for Goku to take uub and Vegeta to take pan/Goten and to compete who is the better master. It breaks up the son family a little and allows for a more interesting dynamic.
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>>539709817
We don't need to know their birth names because it literally doesn't matter. Nothing about Dragon Ball will be improved if we were to find out King Kai's name is Fred
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>>539710354
Vegeta's Gohan obsession is creeping onto Pan now
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>>539710160
Names aren't overexplaining. We have characters who only matter for background stuff like Mutaito and Katatz who have names, but not Roshi (Not his name since it's a funimation thing), the being Piccolo and Kami used to be, and by extension, Kami himself...

As pointed out, we have multiple characters sharing titles too. Shin and old Kaioshin are both called "Kaioshin-sama" by other characters after all... It's not a deal breaker, just silly they aren't named.
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>>539710632
>The magic of the setting is the characters not having name
Most retarded nonsense I've ever heard
>Yoda's name
Yoda's name is Yoda, that was literally never in question in any of the movies. It's not a mystery.
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>>539710809
>the being Piccolo and Kami used to be, and by extension, Kami himself...
To be fair, at least for the Nameless Namekian, it's not an oversight or not bothering to name him, him being Nameless is part of his backstory.
>>539710642
By that logic, we don't need to know any character's name, Goku's included and yet we do.
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>>539710668
Hopefully Videl's Goku obsession saves Pan!
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>>539710972
A Videl x Pan fusion would be so obsessed with Goku, it'd be insane.
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>>539710946
>him being Nameless is part of his backstory.
Sure, I'm not saying Kami or Piccolo should just know, but we have Guru, who did know of that Namekian, and even mentions his father by name, but not the Nameless Namekian's name? By this point it's just silly.
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>>539710826
>Yoda's name is Yoda, that
Did you know google is free? So he's a mystery character. He's a magical character. He has no background. He comes and he goes. He's the subversive secret mysterious stranger that enters the film and then exits at the end."
―George Lucas, about Yoda[32]
Star Wars creator George Lucas chose to keep the name and background of Yoda's species a mystery.[32] Both Yoda and Yaddle's Databank entries on StarWars.com list their species as "Unknown."[2][11] Interviewed for The Clone Wars: Season Three, Supervising Director Dave Filoni confirmed the show had no plans to reveal Yoda's homeworld, further stating that he believed the world would never actually be seen in any story. To Filoni, giving such an answer would ruin a major part of the fun of Yoda's character: the mystery of his origins.
You're fairly low iq desu. You can't understand the beauty of mystery. You have no higher thinking. Consider talking less.
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>try to go to sleep
>Can hear "UH OH! LOOKS LIKE THE ENEMY JUST HIT A MAX GEKISHIN BURST!"
>"I'LL GO DOWN LOW!!!"
>"NOW YOU'LL KNOW THE HORROR!!!"
maybe I should take a break
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George Lucas was a senile man
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>>539711614
Him and Toriyama share a lot of similarities. No editor interference led to both of them pissing on their work.
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I'm still surprised they didn't try to say Neva was Zalama but split in half or something
Dude was extremely OP.
>Dende "You can't use the Dragon balls, they're scattered around the Earth! And they're just rocks now so you can't find them!"
>Neva "No problem."
>Summons them straight to the lookout ready to go
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>>539711454
>The name of Yoda's SPECIES
So not Yoda's name, who's name isn't a mystery at all and you were full of shit.
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>>539711082
>Their lust for Goku isn't just added together, they're significantly greater!
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>>539711603
Man i mainly play it with no volume in the background so I can't into this
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>update this morning
>A network error occurred
Great game
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>>539711454
>Did you know google is free?
Google doesn't replace the movies, that directly name Yoda, what the fuck are you on about?
>>539711282
It's true that unless Piccolo wasn't named at all (like he was sent to space before his dad could name him), it'd be silly that anyone who knows he's Katatz's son doesn't know his name either.
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I'm surprised they buffed Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon when that's straight up a OHKO no matter who it hits
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Goku, did I ever tell you about glinds? They were good friends
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>>539711603
>>539712107
And that's why you use the japanese voices.
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>>539711603
for me it's
MONKEY
GORILLA
CHIMPANZEE
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>>539712201
I imagine the charging time was too complicated for shitters. AKA me.
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>>539712353
Why is Caulifla racist against her own kind
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>>539711790
>I'm still surprised they didn't try to say Neva was Zalama but split in half or something
>In Daima 2 they'd deal with the evil half
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>hmm my teammate wasn't helping me, I wonder what he's up to
>was it getting a boss?
>was it a fight of his own?
>was it pushing/defending a tower?
>oh he's fighting a cell jr
yeah think I'm uninstalling
I forgot how miserable the dopamine trap of mobas, or any team multiplayer game is
You ride high from carrying or doing a sick play every so often, then you're forced to suffer actual barely sentient sub-humans the rest of the time to make up for it
all it does is make me angry
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>>539702282
Your own pic literally shows his eyes are more rounded, retard, and his frame is less muscular, it's clearly tonned down while in other games he's more of an absolute unit, more akin to how he looked in the anime.
Also no idea why the fuck you think huge noses are a Shintani thing
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>>539712538
she's jealous about being a tailless ape while the standard U7 monkeys have all pulled theirs out like the ungrateful simians they are
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>>539712570
Just play in the Asian server.
>>539712538
U6 Saiyans don't have tails so they don't associate themselves with monkeys, like humans don't.
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>>539712353
>>539712538
I've had her say this against everyone while playing her btw
Everyone is a lousy monkey gorilla chimpanzee, just like everyone is 18 to 17.
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>>539712554
Ah yes, Saruman the Green
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>>539712554
>The evil half forces a fusion with Piccolo to become insanely powerful
Do it Iyoku
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>>539712792
>just like everyone is 18 to 17.
I wonder if this is the case in Japanese? I played with 17 a few times in Japanese and haven't heard him saying Juhachigo. Either I simply haven't heard/noticed, or in Japanese he says more generic lines that were translated as being about 18 specifically.
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>>539695157
Based
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>>539707768
DBS is the biggest Uubpill ever, anon, they made Freeza go from weaker than android 19 to stronger than Goku a year after obtaining SSG, a form above it and training with Beerus' master in RoF, all in only some months because his base power was already SS tier (and then in the manga he trains years and becomes way stronger than Jiren).
If Freeza reached that level just for having SS tier as a headstart imagine Uub with a SS3 tier one, once again even more obvious in the manga where they reveal he not only has kid Buu's raw power but also divine powers inherited from the Dai Kaioshin. Goku has all the reasons to take Uub for a few decades and groom him into UI Majin Mode Uub who can take Whis and Vados at same time (and in a fight too)
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>>539713227
>If Freeza reached that level just for having SS tier as a headstart
That's not why tho, Freeza reached that level because he was a prodigy, the SSJ headstart was just because he was also a mutant.
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>>539709817
Roshi's sister.
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>>539711603
"Look how hard they're fighting!"
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>>539702282
>Why are you such a lying ape?
It's another /dbs/ refugee.
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>>539713227
>DBS is the biggest Uubpill ever, anon
Specially after Broly.
>Probably stronger than Beerus
>Goku wants to train him in particular
>Uub is still the most excited Goku has been in a long time.
Uub's Potential Man powers grow by day, he could become stronger than everyone eventually!

>all in only some months because his base power was already SS tier
Being a mutant and a prodigy is one hell of a combo. He solved Golden's stamina problem by simply meditating, something Freeza never did on his life and likely had to figure out on his own.

>once again even more obvious in the manga where they reveal he not only has kid Buu's raw power but also divine powers inherited from the Dai Kaioshin.
Yeah. Everyone else's power + Vegeta's was only enough for Goku to go SSB, but Uub's was enough for him to go UI, and Vegeta was confused where that came from.

Side note, I don't like how Toyotaro treated the forms as sequential in Moro's arc. Goku going from SSG to SS3 when having his power stolen by Moro just makes no sense.
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xenoverse 2 vjump scans tomorrow

New character fury broly

Super attacks
Saiyan Blaster
Gigantic Cross

Ultimate attack
Gigantic Nova

Gigantic Cross is that charge mouth beam move he fired, basically a weaker version of Gigantic Roar
Saiyan Blaster

Rather than gaining these skills through PQs you gain them with each rank up of Broly and Cheelai's new patrol quest

despite having a base model broly is not playabel in this form only his wrath state
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>>539716465
>despite having a base model broly is not playabel in this form only his wrath state
Again? Weird enough SZ did that.
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>>539716465
>>539716929
I'm assuming it's because Base Broly is for dating and they didn't want to risk female players seething because their husbando got beat.
>Rather than gaining these skills through PQs you gain them with each rank up of Broly and Cheelai's new patrol quest
That's how it should have worked from the start.
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>>539717193
>and they didn't want to risk female players seething because their husbando got beat.
But, women prefer Vegeta and he gets beaten up all the time...
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>>539717373
I've never seen a woman that likes Vegeta. At best I saw a lesbian that liked him on instagram but that's it.
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>>539713227
Uubbros we are fucking IN this bitch! Add on the kaioken, an inevitable Majin transformation, pseudo UI/UE, and a pure heart with crazy control. We are FVARKING broken. Humanbros are back!
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>>539705390
Since Gogeta's already debuted in DBS Broly, a Fusion Reborn like story I guess would be a good opportunity to debut Caulifla and Kale's dance-based fusion
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>>539717193
>they didn't want to risk female players seething because their husbando got beat
they're into the wrong franchise if they can't handle something as basic as their husbando being in a fight
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>>539717651
Well, maybe not overall female fans, but on the shipping side, him and Bulma are pretty damn popular, like >>539636170 explained.
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>disconnected
thanks game! disconnects making you lose points if you lose is bullshit
I just want my S rank...
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Tierlist from the ToP on the chance some characters will be added to GS

While i do like some characters i had to be real for a moment and believe they have no chances of being a character and get classed as helpers

Also didn't want to put all transformations because i really dont want this game to be another goku/Vegeta echo FighterZ
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>>539716929
Not really, Broly's never fought on screen without being enraged so they might as well stick with the wrath form as his default until he gets to fight while in control of himself animated.

It honestly really is ashame they couldn't at least animate the final 3 chapters of the manga that act as super hero's epilogue, they don't need to include Carmine, his flunkie, Goten and Trunks either just make an OVA or do they not make those anymore? that's enough time to have Goku vs Gohan, Gohan vs Broly and Goku vs Vegeta vs Broly vs Gohan, don't even have to do the feast part could even end it all four fighters charging up big moves, Kamehameha vs Final Flash vs Special Beam Cannon Beast vs Gigantic Nova, big explosion and Beerus looking pissed off at the saiyans as Goku laughs with the camera focused on him and iris out, it'd give controlled Broly plenty of moves for games, it'd give controlled ultra instinct goku some new moves as well and Gohan a new animation for going into Beast so games don't have to constantly copy the first moment he did it, the only one who really has nothing to gain from this would be Vegeta, Ultra Ego wasn't used in the manga during this melee to begin with and he doesn't actually get to fight on screen he joins in during the brawl where it turns into a cartoonish fight cloud
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>>539718297
>Kefla
>Already in-game
Is there a special win animation I'm missing?
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>>539718431
Why can't games just invent shit anymore? Videogames used to invent moves all the time. Like the final Kamehameha.
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>>539718431
>Broly's never fought on screen without being enraged
Sure, but he only started using Ikari after Vegeta went SSG, so there is some things to get from it... And like another anon said, making up new moves is fine. 17's "I'll beat you like a rug" is a video game move after all...
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>>539718297
>i really dont want this game to be another goku/Vegeta echo FighterZ
anon i get where you're coming from but there's no way they don't add blueku and bluegeta, at least giving them different roles and moves'll make it feel at least a little better
well at least until UI goku ends up being a damage anyway, because in no world are they ever making him a support
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>>539717905
I doubt Toriyama intended it, but Bulma is a real appealing self-insert for women. She's hot, doesn't take shit even from characters infinitely stronger than her, the richest woman on Earth, a genius and also one of the smartest people on Earth, scores the badboy anti-hero character and actually does fix him and turn him good, while also making him tsundere that he loves her
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>>539718431
>it'd give controlled Broly plenty of moves for games
Moves can be added just fine (Vegeta had Gamma Burst Flash in Heroes, Goku has used Hakai in Heroes and Dokkan), what's off-limits are forms and characters.

>and Gohan a new animation for going into Beast so games don't have to constantly copy the first moment he did it
I don't think that one is a problem to adapt either. Kakarot adapted DBS manga's version of how Trunks dealt with Buu (With a few changes here and there).
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>>539718297
I think the bug who beat Piccolo could be a helper. Kefla is also going to happen eventually. I also see bosses getting character upgrades since they already have work on their moves done. Tien feels guaranteed. Frost and Bergamo I can see simply because they have gimmicks (poison, and rest of the danger trio + getting stronger as he takes damage iirc) that would translate well to gameplay but Dypso I feel might not, considering he would overlap a lot with 18 who already has a pretty generic moveset.
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>>539718576
Something something Bandai something something brand recognition
The age of unique db media died with heroes
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>>539718441
>Update
I did an oopsie anon

>>539718931
100% agree on what you said anon, it's just that i really dont want all the slots for characters be the same character, but hoping for unique gameplay with each goku/vegeta variant

>>539719281
Fucked up with kefla there anon sorry there.

That would be nice for more helpers i agree on that, i felt that with frost was an interesting pick since as you said, poison area skill, and the danger trio only the "leader" would be selected as playable.

Actually considered Dyspo mostly because the top 2 (Jiren and Toppo) felt like guaranteed in the game he was the most 3rd pick in mind (if they chose 3 of the pride troopers)
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>>539718431
>It honestly really is ashame they couldn't at least animate the final 3 chapters of the manga that act as super hero's epilogue,
How would they do that? Those chapters didn't exist until years after the movie.
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>>539718297
Agnilasa is 100% gonna be relegated to boss character duties.
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>>539704217
the only issue is they don't entirely know what a super saiyan even is. Vegeta spends much of Namek assuming he is one simply after a zenkai boost or two
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>>539706681
the daizenshuu books said 23rdt BT Chichi had a power level of around 130, which would put her around King Piccolo level.
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>>539710632
I had the idea of Goku taking on Bulla's training and Vegeta taking on Pan's.



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