Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith./ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0>General Info on Final Fantasyhttps://finalfantasy.fandom.com>What version should I play?http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicleshttps://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w >Final Fantasy XVI Infohttps://na.finalfantasyxvi.com>Launch Trailer "Salvation"https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs >DLChttps://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfchttps://youtu.be/aveDvd66clk >PC Trailerhttps://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4Is >Final Fantasy VII Rebirthhttps://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw>Final Trailerhttps://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG >Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisishttps://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omniahttps://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visionshttps://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8>Final Fantasy Brave Exviushttps://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD>Final Fantasy XIhttp://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtmlPrevious thread: >>539111591
Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.
XVI a dogshit lmao
>>539714958BASED FIRST POST BEST POST
>>539714849UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH KRILE
>>539715106FPBP
>>539715741>the retarded resident shitposter is blindYou're so sad and pathetic
>>539715741Kek based
>>539715741BASED
After 3 days of relative bliss, it seems we once again must unfortunately suffer hostile shitposters who have recently broken out of prison and crossed borders into the /ffg/. We will not stand for this. We needs must Make /ffg/ Great Again. Send these tourists back to gaol where they belong!
Before you make negative remarks about Yoshida, XIV, or XVI, I want you to remember that Naoki Yoshida is a human being.
>so insecure that he needs to samefag his own shitposts multiple times>>539716206>>539716510Yep. I wonI think we're done here.
>>539715741>>539716206>>539716510You guys made someone extremely upset with this. Extraordinary.
FFXV is underrated.
>>539714849OP never misses. Loli is the best. Ironic how it keeps the pedos out.
>>5397168023 days of peaceIt was so beautiful
>>539714958FPBP>>539717152>>539720334>these ritualposts appear after a 3 day periodHmm...
>>539628243I only asked once, but now I'll do it again.>Anyone care to reupload these?>https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy3pixelremaster/mods/79?tab=files&file_id=193>https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy3pixelremaster/mods/31?tab=files&file_id=90
>>539725095>pixel remasterCan they mod the games so they are identical to the NES version?
My wife Eiko is super cute!
>>539725095Why not just make an account and download them yourself though
>>539717152A very stupid human being.
Claire is The Final Fantasy, Queen of the Moogles, Savior of Franchises, Mother of all Men, and Princess of Sales
>>539725674The best
>>539729527Sadly true
>>539716802You struck a nerve, the fatherless immediately posted about Yoshida right after your post.
At the end of the day, XVI is still a bad game.
>>539735029 here, I made an oppsie, I meant XIII.
No bad game could live so rent-free in the shitposter's headWe can only conclude thatFFXVI was 10/10 all along
>>539720334only thing it's under is a pile of shit
>>539726087I'm lazy! I'd rather someone else just re-up on mediafire or something.
>>539735029>XVI is still a bad gameFraid so.
Posting Aerith charm for good thread.
>>539729948The webm that saved /ffg/.
You know whats really sad? The nier general had the decency to admit they are dead and quietly cease. (You) all just keep autistically shitposting.
>>539736285And yet I never beat the Wyrm...
>>539735029All the game has caused in me is do more drugs and hate trannies
Why is there no Final Fantasy thread on /v/?What am I supposed to do with my Friday night?
>>539684310Vanilletruth. That's why I'd say that the series should return to the approach that Sakaguchi used up to and including IX. There should be a quantitative balance of new and old elements. If the series decides to be an anthology, it must find that balance of new and old so that each new project offers enough new elements but still has enough traditional characteristics to avoid losing its personality in the eyes of the audience. The differences between games of the series after X are too drastic, which simply from a marketing standpoint hinders audience growth. Experience with III will help a person learn VI, VII, or IX, but experience with XII won't help a player learn XIII, and so on. People who loved XII's experience will never find anything like it in the series again, and a huge portion of them will leave the series after a few iterations because of unmet expectations. Now let's imagine this happens with every new game in the series, every time. It's a marketing hell. One can flatter themselves all they want with Sakaguchi's “FF's identity lies in constant change” slogans, slogans that Sakaguchi himself didn't stick to too much in practice during Squaresoft's time, but that's not going to create a clear brand vision in the audience's perception.The Squaresoft era had a much more rational balance of new and old elements than the Square Enix era. We need to get back to that.
>>539736285While I absolutely agree with you and that this general should die so the schizos can finally disperse and I wont be compelled to suffer them anymore, the Nier general was much deader than this one. It was being kept alive by literally one guy necro bumping the thread from page 10 with art every time it got there, with maaaybe one or two other people occasionally commenting. It also didn't have schizos to my knowledge, at least not in its very late stage form of dead thread. This thread, however, is being kept alive by its 1-3 schizos who make hundreds of posts where they do nothing except say:>"I hate the game that I've decided my bogeyman aligns with, here is a shitpost because my bogeyman is all I think about, stop samefagging, no u"and they've been stuck in this loop since the gacha days when I made the terrible mistake of coming here.
>>539741237Nice fanfic lil bro. Where can I subscribe to your blog?
Aerisu!
>page 10Dead threadDead generalDead seriesThanks Yoshida
Remake is pefect pacing-wise.As the first game, it hasn't been too deep into the main conflict of the story, so it is fine to go around a bit. Also, exploring Midgar is cool since we get the actual size of the city that we didn't get in the OG.Rebirth should be trimmed into 2/3 of its current size to fix the pacing.
>>539751667Wrong, incorrect and retarded
>>539751667Agreed.
>>539741237You are a miserable person, making up stories about why people hate you, instead of owing to your obnoxious fatherless spam.
>>539751625Obsessed...
>>539729948When we die, we'll turn into Moogles and Claire will pat us on the head in heaven, won't she?
>>539761360cringe
>>539761509Claire
>>539758771>You are a miserable personYes you are are
>>539762140>you are areTry again, in English. Fatherless ESL.
Final Fantasy is a Motherless franchise...
>>539736245>>539729948>>539761360Good morning cultists. Do you wear pink robes too?
>>539772526As for me, I am not a cultist and I do not wear any robes. Other outstanding questions?
>>539751667>perfect pacingLMAOhallways and walk-talk and bloat out the ass
>>539751667>Remake is pefect pacing-wise.Another funny thing about the Remake conversation, just like the whole thing with how the Whispers died and everyone is a doomer, is how back when Remake was out everyone was shitting on it for being a padded, bloated, walky-talky mess of shitty sidequests. In particular, I remember people making fun of the cat sidequest and how shit it is, when I didn't even mind it at all. How far the "conversation" has come. The Whispers are now a good thing, actually, and Remake now has perfect pacing after people Rebirth.
>>539781073I get to have my own opinion and not parrot the crowd. Also they're wrong.
>>539781073Similarly some people acted like Remake was flawless but as soon as Rebirth was out they were happy to talk about Remake having plenty of flaws just to claim Rebirth improved or fixed them all. This way they would hope to convince anyone who had issues with Remake that Rebirth was the real flawless one. I wonder how they'll treat Rebirth once part 3 is out. Probably the same routine.
>>539781624Any remake negativity was from doomers and haters and shitposters. Until rebirth came out and all those doomers and haters were actually right.
>>539781624>>539781073Thanks jimbo“I like remake but I like rebirth even more”
>>539781812See >>539781819
>>539781819Not your bogeyman, little guy.
>>539772526You struck a nerve, the cultist immediately got very defensive.
>>539781819Do you have anything to contribute other than namefagging and schizoposting? If anyone is saying something you disagree with why not just say so instead of doing this?
As long as no one makes negative remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, or Remake, we will be fine.
>>539782934WelpThanks for "protecting" us from the shitposters, anon. You're doing a great job of improving the thread. Everyone will think twice before talking about final fantasy here in future.
Vanille is the best.
>>539782810>>539782448It took this person four minutes to screenshot, crop, and switch devices.
>>539784365sad
Horrible thread.What happened here?
>>539784365>this personHe prefers to be called The Night Sky Prince
>>539785937It's because people keep complaining about Remake/Rebirth when they should be happy that the game got a remake treatment (and it's good).
>>539786546Oh. Someone wasn't positive enough about 7R so we had a melty.A common tale of late.
>>539786546Whenever I even consider badmouthing either remake or rebirth, I think about how lucky we are to have gotten anything at all. I wish others could do the same.
>>539787042At least they're being mask off with their melty instead of immediately deflecting to another game, like usual. I'm sure that will begin shortly though.
>>539786180Not ffg related >>539786514Enjoy your vacations
>>539781812this post seems to have been the last straw. its accuracy must have pinched someone's nerve particularly badly.
>>539785937As usual, someone said something slightly negative about Remake/Rebirth. Now we're bogeyman schizo shitposting.
>anyone saying they liked remake and rebirth is the same person saying anything bad about them>also they're the same person from this youtube channel and this twitter and this steam account and this gamefaqs account and this /v/ post from 2019>please take me seriously
>>539788436>and this /v/ post from 2019It was a Reddit post, actually.
>>539736245>>539738796>>539739156>>539739472>>539761360>>539761548>>539762510>>539775042>>539783419Now THIS is Final Fantasy.
>>539787752Nah, think I'll hang around.
>>539789531Which final fantasy is your favourite?
>>539785937Just the fatherless shitposting as usual.Nihil novi sub sole.
>>539789338That's a man.
>>539789623FFVI
Proof of purchase of the most recent mainline FF should be required to post here.
>>539790579I wish I could refund XVI
The ability to discern that XVI is not really FF should be required to post here.
>>539787183>At least they're being mask off with their melty instead of immediately deflecting to another game, like usual. I'm sure that will begin shortly though.Prophetic.
>>539790579
>>539790579The fatherless would fake one.
>>539789370chat is this real
>>539793000Literally shit.
>>539790579Based!
Remember when that XVI fag admitted that he didn't even own the PS5Good times
Remember when this thread was good?No? Me neither
This thread is just fine when people post heroines
>>539793971What other FF heroines deserved to be main characters?
>>539794118Jill definitely deserved better, the fact that Gentiana Shiva in FFXV is still so much better than her is a slap in the face. She should be playable, Commandable from the D-pad, with a Synergy team up attack and a fully controllable Shiva boss fight.
XVI Shiva's design is also very underwhelming and bland. Doesn't really honor the legacy of Shiva in my eyes. Ultimately, it's just forgettable
Vanille is the main character
>>539790579You post yours first weenie.
>>539793692lol
>>539758771Based
When are we getting playable Jill and Cid? The game did do well enough on PC for this to happen, right?
>>539793692Hey, that was me! I should inform you that you (and Barry, do you enjoy being associated with him?) refer to multiple people as "the XVI fag", as if it's only one person when it is actually multiple. Anyway, I never even said anything about XVI, I only ever commented on the fact that there are a small group of people who have been shitposting about Yoshida for hours of their lives every single day for the past several years, and I appropriately called them the Yoshida hate cult. I know shitposters don't care about facts or logic or reality or what actually happened, but I'm telling the truth. I never even attempted to pass myself off as someone who had played XVI, I just commented on the status of the 1-3 person hate cult that has obsessed with Yoshida for years even before XVI launched, and that the people shitposting XVI are exactly the same people who shitpost XIV.
>I have never said anything about xvi >but here’s an accompanying image the pro-xvi shitposter always posts
>>539797506Saying that:>"there is a 1-3 person group of shitposters who have been obsessed with shitposting about Yoshida every single day of their lives for the past several years, and that this exact same small group of people were shitposting about XIV for hours of their lives, every single day of their lives for the past several years since even before the lead up to XVI"is not "pro-xvi", it is anti-schizo.
>>539797506I don't care about Yoshida, but I must defend his honor at all costs.
>>539793692Correct! I don't own a PS5 but I will defend XVI and Yoshida with my life.
>>539793692the fact that he still didn't play XVI is quite funny, seeing as how he proclaims any mild criticism of anything surrounding XVI as being part of a hate cult.
He’s here.>im not a yoshida defender>but watch me crash the fuck out any time someone even slightly criticizes yoshida
FFIX remake isn't coming soon enough to save this general
>>539798207>FFIX remake isn't comingThat's old news.
>>539798075The Yoshipiss cultist themselves admit they haven't played his game until recently. Who are they to judge?
>>539798074>>539798141Correct! I'm not a Yoshida defender, but watch me crash the fuck out (at literally any time of day) about my imaginary 1-3 boyfriends who have all been making fun of Yoshidaddy for years.
Again, all I've ever done regarding XVI is comment on the fact that Yoshida has a 1-3 person hate cult who has been literally obsessed with shitposting about him for hours of their lives, every single day of their lives, for the past several years. It is a true and observable (and insane) fact. I truly don't understand how commenting about the existence of schizos is a "defense of Yoshida" or a "crash out" or "pro-xvi". I just think it's insane that you guys have spent hours of your life every single day doing this for the past several years, since even before XVI released, so it truly is a Yoshida thing and not at all a XVI thing. Like, I'm not a fan of Kingdom Hearts, but I don't shitpost about Nomura on even a weekly or monthly basis, and when I "shitpost" about him I keep it factual and relatable to my personal opinion and experience. I don't just spew vitriol for the sake of spewing vitriol like you guys have been doing, and that's all I've ever said on the matter.
>>539797354>>539798862Hey dumb fuck Yoshill, I bought a PS5 to play Final Fantasy games, I bought FFXVI on launch day. And guess what? The game is a complete stinker. So I get to say whatever I want about the product I purchased and am unsatisfied with
>XIII-kun crashing out again over better gamesvery sad to see
>>539798927>So I get to say whatever I want about the product I purchased and am unsatisfied withNo one has ever told you that you can't. If anyone has, it wasn't me. If you are not part of the 1-3 person hate cult who has been shitposting about Yoshida for hours of their lives, every single day of their life, since years before the lead up to XVI, then you are not who I am talking about. However, I have a suspicion that you might be the exact person I am talking about.
getting angry at posters over a videogame you didn't play sure is bizarre behavior.
>>539798927Reddit disagrees with you. Some people just can't handle the truth.
>>539799353I've been trying to get him >>539798927 to play it instead of just taking screenshots and crying but he just won't budge I'm afraid...
>>539799082They/them returned from their 3 day vacationAnd now we all suffer
>>539799738What proof do you have that he didn't play it?
>>539798927>The game is a complete stinkerSad but true
>>539799082You've lost countless times already, I'm afraid>>539799146I've been posting in here since April of 2024, which is extremely recent compared to (You). I've never posted anything in this thread until after I had completed FFVII Rebirth and FFXIII. And no matter how many times I've said this, with all the accompanying proof, people like (You) have dismissed this simple truth outright. You dismiss it in order to push schizo conspiracy delusions month after month for over a year straight now about how "the newfag XIIIkun is secretly the oneguy shitposter Paulie. He just fabricated a new persona" These people fabricated this fantasy out of thin air, all because I'm openly critical of XVI in my posts. Don't you think that's pretty weird to do? And here you are, doubling down that mean Yoshi posts only ever come from "1-3" posters.
>>539800151>>539797354>>539798475
>>539800151They have cope. That's all. I didn't play it twice so I could unlock super secret real fan mode, and I also "didn't even have the intention of giving it a chance". There have been many copes, never any proofs.>>539800461I think you're mixing up who is who. More than likely deliberately
>>539800461You didn't even quote the right poster. Anon, at this point, you're just embarrassing yourself.
>>539800781So you have no proof, got it.
>>539800781>I didn't play itThanks for confirming
>>539799353>getting angry at posters over a videogame you didn't play sure is bizarre behavior.The entire situation becomes quite clear once you realize there is cult-like devotion to Naoki Yoshida. Like any cult, they must support and defends the leaders name with religious fervor. Suddenly in this context, every outburst makes perfect sense. It's just that these types usually aren't willing to admit that this is what they're doing, and so the cognitive dissonance deepens and creates further and further tension amongst dissenters.People wouldn't really care that much about it anymore if these people just admitted the truth. "Yes, I don't own the products but I do defend the name of the producer every single day because I have an emotional attachment to him. What are you gonna do about it?" If they were honest, these people could come to terms with their fragile emotions surrounding him a lot easier, and they won't have to get so personally offended every single time anyone makes fun of Yoshida on the internet. They can come to terms with their own position, which would help stop them from being so sensitive about it
>"plays" XVI once on easy mode>whines about difficulty endlesslyWhat causes this?
>>539803116>"plays" XVI once on easy modeSakaguchi and at least 90% of everyone who ever reached the end credits all played the game the exact same way>whines about difficultyWhere? XVI stinks regardless of whether or not it's easy to play btw. It's packed with poor game design decisions
sad state of yoshitroons
I don't need to explain why XVI's combat design is good, it's self evident for anyone who plays it. Any criticism, however, is illegitimate unless the player has completed the game 3 times and proved at least one WR Ultimania speedrun.
>>539803408Most people don't care about difficultyIf you do, XVI has difficult challenges you can undertakeIt's packed with great game design decisionsFFXVI is a true Final Fantasy for fans and first-timers
>>539803796prophetic
>>539803796You should at least try to experience all the content the game has to offer before judging it.It's pretty evident that those with the least playtime are the most critical of XVI. (Those with zero playtime being the most critical)Those who take the time to get to know XVI well can appreciate it for all it has to offer.
>>539804332The same can be said of XIV.Most that are critical of it have never even attempted most of the content in the game, including its harder content like Savage and Ultimates.Most whiners haven't played it or play some of the easy early game and quit.Yet they will still talk about it endlessly online for some reason.
One true love and lovely hugs! Canon and cute couple!
>>539803796Good God.>>539803889>It's packed with great game design decisionsLol, LMAO even. You cannot be serious about this in the /ffg/ of all places.So desperate to hand waive all criticism that you just copypaste what someone else says but invert the adjective? Chatbot tier.What is one single example of a good game design decision? Can you talk about something, anything of substance as it relates to the game design?The disconnected hub? The sidequest spam? Disconnected fields that you CANNOT move between on foot? How about the MMO cooldown spam?Or maybe the 4 hit combo that never changes? It's a good design that Clive has no Limit Break attacks to learn? Cheap Devil Trigger knockoff is good?How is only having one playable character and no party to command a good game decision in a mainline Final Fantasy title? How the hell is removing all the stats and damage types and elements and statuses a good game design decision?How in the everloving fuck are braindead QTE's in every cutscene (in 2023) a good game design decision?
>>539787183Well would you look at that
>>539803889>It's packed with great game design decisionsThis is why no one takes Yoshipiss cultists seriously. They actually believe this.
>>539805489It's their first action game, please understand.
In the end, FFXVI is a failure.Not just because gameplay gets really boring and repetitive without anything to break up the monotony.Not just because the story gets really boring and repetitive without anything to break up the monotony.Not just because the RPG decisions are gone and there's no reason to ever play the game again.Not just because the world and lore is a confused and jumbled mess of foreign inspirations.But because it fails to make a lasting connection with the player.
>>539805489I'm reminded of this sad, lonely screenshot whenever anyone poorly attempts to praise FFXVI's game design.This isn't cherrypicked either. This is basically every single field area in the game. Trash mob, trash loot, nothing to interact with, nothing interesting to see.
>>539806112>getting filtered by atmosphereshame
>>539806840>atmosphereExtremely bland. That's the point. It doesn't have any good game design, and it doesn't have atmosphere either. It's just nothing.
>>539805771 here, I misswrote FFXIII.FFXIII is a failure.
>>539807305You'll have to try again.
We really need to find a way to deflect to VIIR again or else things are going to get nasty.
>>539807305Very pertinent answer. FFXIII is a failure that killed Squaresoft and forced Enix to buy it out.
>>539807570Ohnonono! What does the cult mean by this desperate projection?
>>539807570You struck a nerve, the fatherless had to deflect to something, anything to try to take the heat away from XIII.
>>539807570>>539807956what the fuck are you retards even talking about lmao
>>539807562I loved Remake, but I loved Rebirth even more. They aren't perfect games, but they are truly packed with good game design decisions.
You're striking *my* nerve? The way you fucking shitpost, you're gonna die of an aneurysm by the time you're 50!
>>539808053VIIR sucked. Entire game is literally just dangling keys in front of a ADHD kid.
>>539804332>>539804640>gameplay hours directly correlate to number of shitpostsThose who are ignorant, shitpostThose who are wise, enjoy Final Fantasy
>>539807048Looks like a mobile game.
>>539808097
>>539808134big if this can be explained in a non-schizo way.
>>539808274Stop answering yourself, sis. It's cringe and you're literally fooling nobody, you are only embarrassing yourself.
>>539808274Keep posting, king. Your posts are a much needed respite from this general.
>>539808134Based and truePure slop
>>539808274You triggered them.
>>539787183
Well crafted gameplay design that honors tradition with strong spectacle, timeless character designs, instantly iconic dialogue, and interesting boss mechanics that updates classic FF content with modern sensibility? Jingling keys for children, nothing of value, not even Final Fantasy. One button QTEs that never change the entire game, over the top shonen anime moments, gratuitous violence and bloody hecking MURDER with FUCKING swearing? Mature, for adults only, intelligent content, 10/10 classic Final Fantasy.
>>539809172Hehehe
>>539781073Hmm... so this was the post that caused today's meltdown. Interesting.
I lost. I'm sorry...
>>539808139Sakaguchi said it best. Final Fantasy is not about retreading old paths but of forging one anew.Final Fantasy XVI (and XIV) did this successfully while paying tribute to what came before.
>>539808262It really does. I think that's why they used the "super serious and gritty 3rd person over the shoulder big budget Sony game" camera angle, instead of the typical action RPG centered camera angle like in this image. When Clive is in the center of the screen, it REALLY looks like a mobile game.
>>539809508XVI-kun...
>>539809610No more remakes. Except Tactics Remastered please buy that one. Then definitely no more remakes after that.
Perhaps a remake of FFXVI could save the game.
>>539810028XVI Final Mix on Switch 2 will make up for Rebirth's mediocre sales
>>539810028We can only hope
>>539809912FFIX Remake too.Please buy Remakes if they are high fantasy kino.Do not buy Ubisoft trendchasing Remakes/sequels to any VII compilation slop
>>539808053>I loved Remake, but I loved Rebirth even moreOnly someone who hates the games would say this.I promise you this makes sense somehow.
>>539809610>not about retreading old paths but of forging one anew.Yeah, like designing worse QTE's than the games from 2005 that pioneered itDesigning worse action genre combat than the games from 2001 that pioneered itHaving the absolute worst RPG elements, exploration and itemization of any big budget game ever made
>>539808139Seems so.
>>539810607Paulie used to say that he loved XVI even more than its fans, that's why he shitposted about it so much. Then he "soured on the game over time" as he spent every day shitposting about it, and most recently he has said "it's terrible", and he also still calls it a 7/10. There is a lot of very, very, very revealing information here about what his bogeymen do that angers him. When you observe his own behavior, it becomes clear that the very worst shitpost you can possibly make is to say that you liked a game and that it was a 7/10.
>>539808139>>539810924Are there any steam reviews with 500 hours of XVI played? By this logic, they should be positive.
>>539811298I don't want the opinion of someone who has put 500 hours into a game that only takes 100 to 100%.
>>539811298Correct.There are many 10/10 FFXVI bros like picrel
>>539810607I love VIIR because it's a great video game with some amazing characters. It's also a game that has allowed me to connect with multiple family members in some fun new ways by playing it with them and experiencing the story. It's also something that to me represents a fundamental value, and it does it in a way the original game does not. "How do we honor our traditions from the past and the ones who gave us those traditions, while moving the traditions forward to our children so they aren't left behind?" VIIR project is honoring the legacy of big budget toy box game design principles of the FF PS1 era, to regift it to those who come after. That's classic feel good shit. And though the multitude of ideas it presents to the audience throughout can be a bit of a mess in totality, I appreciate any and all game creators who have the courage to boldly go off the deep end. That's what I play video games for>>539811008I've never, ever said "I love FFXVI". I definitely don't. I said that I enjoyed many things about the game though, hence a generally positive and better than mediocre "7/10". But I do hate XVI at this point. It sucks. After seeing so many extremely baffling defenses for the game on this board, it seems only natural to oppose what it represents. XVI is other games and other IPs grafted onto the FF franchise through force. XVI is antithetical to my ideals on what Final Fantasy as a series is supposed to be. Everything about it is just wrong, in the end. And I think most anyone who actually cares about Final Fantasy moving forward into the future for our kids to play, knows why that is.It's like they all saw FFXIII's biggest mistakes of movie-gameism, and said "NOW WATCH THIS!" Doubling down on many of those massive game design mistakes, without ever having the courage to actually do something interesting with Final Fantasy to compromise the way that XIII did. I'm not alone in thinking this, either.
>>539814530VIIR good, XVI bad. Simple as. If that makes me Paulie, then you can call me Walnuts. But that's still not my first name
>>539814671
7R is Kingdom Hearts
FF7 Remake is getting a Demo on Switch 2 in October, it carries over save data.Unlike the PS4 Demo it ends instead right after the first whisper attack.And Xbox demo is planned but is coming later.
>>539808990It has occurred to me that FF11 is a lost cause. There are millions of fans who have at least given 14 a shot at some point and many of them have completed at least one of the main stories, though by ptw. FF11 does not have the luxury of even being worth installing for most fans let alone even completing the first few missions. It’s an agonizing game with a gargantuan cast of characters that nobody cares about. Imagine getting mogged by FF14
>>539817309Blame SE.They could have remastered the game any time in the past 20 years but chose not to. You can't blame the fans for not wanting to install EverQuest in fucking 2025.Even if they wanted to get people playing XI, they don't want to because the infrastructure cannot handle the influx. SE actually actively tries to stop XIV players from trying out XI because it would kill the servers.They could make it free to try and advertise it on the XIV Launcher but they don't.They could devote resources to a remaster or remake but they won't.SE killed FFXI.
>>539817309The problem with Retail XI is that the game has pretty much nothing in common with the version people liked. Even assuming SE worked on infrastructure and marketed the game, it simply isn't really interesting for most of the market compared to XIV. Its best bet would be some sort of XI Classic, but I think the PS2 interface would automatically filter 99% of the population anyway.
>>539817309>It has occurred to me that FF11 is a lost cause.Why do you say that? It's a 23 year old, barely maintained and horribly archaic MMO that is still played today by ~100k active characters. A fair amount of those seem to be 1 account multiboxing itself for... endgame content? but 100k is still a good amount for how frankly miserable it is to actually play FFXI. >though by ptw.?>It’s an agonizing game with a gargantuan cast of characters that nobody cares aboutThe literal only thing holding FFXI back is that it is AGONIZING to do literally ANYTHING in that game. Every single insignificant minor thing is something that you absolutely require making a macro for or using an addon just to make doing that insignificant (possibly repetitive) task bearable. Even something as simple as opening a chest or even just actually attacking an enemy is a nightmare. It is nigh unplayable. >>539818313What addon displays the cutscene text like that? >SE actually actively tries to stop XIV players from trying out XI because it would kill the servers.That is not true even in the slightest. Pic related is in the XIV launcher, and this is the second time it has happened, and like the existence of the XI alliance raids at all is proof that they don't *not* want XIV players in XI. I do think it would kill the servers if they received an Asmongold level influx though. They had to shut Asura down to new players, which is a pretty crazy thing to think about for something so impenetrable as XI. >They could make it free to try and advertise it on the XIV Launcher but they don't.They are doing pic related, and I wish they'd do a Classic WoW type situation where you get XI for free if you sub to XIV, but I guess the thought process is that XI's servers (and the guy(s) maintaining XI) are costing SE money, and XI still has 100k active characters, so why make it free if people are still paying for it?
>1730009263598826.pngThe addon is called Balloon. They are only doing the discount campaign because we begged them for years to do it.If they did a real event tomorrow that was free access for all XIV players and made it easy to login the game servers would die under the load of millions of players trying it out.If they really cared they'd remaster. If they cared slightly and beefed up the servers, they'd do a free login for XIVggers. They are just maintaining bare minimum service instead.Retail XI is actually great and plenty would enjoy it.It would be easy to beef up Retail with a UI refresh and have an XIV Classic like OSRS though if SE actually gave a fuck.
>>539821320>They are only doing the discount campaign because we begged them for years to do it.This discount campaign is not what I am pointing out. The fact that XI is being advertised, wholesale, both in the Dawntrail Alliance Raids and with crossover campaigns that are advertised in the launcher itself means, at the very least, that they don't *not* want XIV players to play it, whereas you said that SE actively tries to stop XIV players from trying out XI, which is simply untrue. >If they did a real event tomorrow that was free access for all XIV players and made it easy to login the game servers would die under the load of millions of players trying it out.I already agreed with you about this, but I guess you didn't read it. >It would be easy to beef up Retail with a UI refreshNo it absolutely would not. The issue with XI has nothing to do with the UI but rather the fundamental game systems. Honestly, playing XI made me realize that all of the so-called "spaghetti code" issues plaguing XIV that allegedly cannot be fixed - like nearly all of them originated in XI. There are so many like "why does XIV do [thing] this way, it's so stupid" and literally the answer is just "because XI did it that way". And when you look at XIV 1.0 footage... it just looks like a prettier XI. And then apparently XIV was built by heavily modifying XI 1.0... which, in essence, means that XIV is just a very heavily modified FFXI. That's crazy to think about. If they fucking change anything in XI, it could all fall apart. They can't even put Cornelia and Matsui-P both in the game at the same time because the amount of Trust slots is full and they apparently don't know how to add 1 more slot to make them permanent. Shit needs PS2 dev kits to maintain and update, like no the fuck it would not be "easy" to do ANYTHING with XI, and the UI isn't even the problem, it's the fundamental game engine and its systems.
>wall of text
The amount of braindead retards who feel the need to leave their wall of retarded text here lately is rather concerning.
Please forgive me. I had the audacity to post about Final Fantasy in response to a post about Final Fantasy, in the Final Fantasy General. It wasn't the more appreciated schizophrenic bogeyman shitposting usually done here, so of course you didn't feel the need to read it.
>>539825818You're supposed to break it down into at least 3 posts wherein you reply to yourself each time, rizz yourself up and take shots at your Boogeyman along the way.
>>539821320That thieving cat...This is MY crown.
>setzer, relm, and Celes appear in the second half of FFVI x Octopath Traveler. I know Mog, Terra, Edgar, and Locke are in, but will there be an eighth?
Why is everyone a total dick in FFXIV.>oh hey we created a door to another world>let's invade them
>>539814901Final Fantasy VII has always been Kingdom Hearts.
>>539841487It is only right that I should take your realm. For none among you has the power to stop me!
>>539841487So glad XIV confirmed that open borders are indeed bad.
>>539837539As you are a mercenary of Salaheem's Sentinels, what's yours is actually Naja's.Just be glad that her finders fees aren't higher. She's doing you a favor, really.
>>539841626So is XV. We're all part of the same family and soon KH itself will turn into Final Fantasy.
>>539844272
>>539844182That's right!
>>539844272Oh sweet! A new image to add to my filter list!
>>539814901>>539841626>>539844272I think I just threw up a little bit
Feelings were hurt once again.
>want to install ballistas on a train>G'raha suggests installing cannons insteadTruly a man after my heart...>>539843416I still hope for a Final Fantasy strategy game one day.>>539843585And Kingsglaive confirmed that refugees hate the country that greet them more than the country that forced them to run away.>>539844182What about my anal virginity?
True Final Fantasy fans would never conflate FF with Kingdom Shartz. This is exactly the kind of nonsense Nomura shit that is killing Final Fantasy
Kingdom Hearts has good action combat, unlike Final Fantasy.
>>539814901kingdom hearts is final fantasy
>>539847426Such acts are not permissible within the Aht Urghan Empire. Come with me for interrogation.
>>539848445both are the same brand of melodramatic slop that I love
>>539837539>>539845195
playing FF13-2 for the first time 15 years after I played 13 to see if I missed anythingturns out I didn't, same shit combat, claustrophobic maps outside archylte steppes, 5 minutes of gameplay for 10 minutes of cutscenes, stupid zybourne clock tier story about time travel and how everything is about toriyama's poochie, caius also looks stupidnoel is an okay deuteragonist I guess
>>539714849Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.
>>539808262You're being too generous. Mobile games are better than that in graphics and gameplay.
>>539849343you set they/them off
>>539848649>Such acts are not permissible within the Aht Urghan Empire.Oh, good. Space Kings made me see spiked maces in an unpleasant light.
>>539850051not my plan to trigger anyone, but it's really a mediocre game, absolutely not touching LR after I'm donethe premise feels so forced too, 13's story was pretty self contained, there was no need for that time travel bsand SE knew 13's reception was middling at best so they either pumped these sequels to recoup their investment or toriyama is the most charismatic mf in japan and managed to convince the entire board to let him do a full trilogy about his waifu
>>539849343>>539851930>caius also looks stupidYou've gone too far
>>539849343You triggered the fatherless loser.
>>539851930Square Enix was in disarray at the time with Sakaguchi leaving so they went to Toriyama and asked for a sequel to recoup their XIII costs, despite the middling reception of XIII, yes. They didn't have anything else in pipeline at the time. This is when they asked FFXI's Tanaka to get to work and create XIV 1.0 with zero oversight as well.
>>539852674Why did he do it bros? Was Matsuda the most retarded SE CEO?
The FFXIII series generated over a billion dollars in its lifetime, nearly 10 million copies were sold at full price within just the first 3 years
>>539853791When are we getting the next girl only FF game?
>>539853791XIV saving Final Fantasy once again.
>>539855340>They're all free accounts
>>539852674>>539853791Regrettably, the reality is that the XIII trilogy caused significant decline for the Final Fantasy series as a whole and tarnished the brand.>>539855385pure cope lol
>>539856687How many players are paying for a subscription?
>lil bro's breaking out the lucky bancho and playerscopeuh oh
>>539857265This is too consfusing to decipher, tell me.
>>539857634less than 1 million active accounts
>>539857737And how is this calculated, how do you track all players and know whether they are subbed or not?
>>539858215It's not accurate and never has been. Shitposters just like to use it to cope these days about XIV's success and its millions of active players.Sad to see it.
>>539814171>VIIR project is honoring the legacy of big budget toy box game design principles of the FF PS1 era, to regift it to those who come after.>XVI is antithetical to my ideals on what Final Fantasy as a series is supposed to be.many hold this belief
>>539859073Funny, essentially I hold the exact opposite belief.The 7R trilogy represents everything that Final Fantasy isn't and never will be. Luckily, they're just low budget spinoffs so they haven't done any damage to the mainline FF series.Even Tabata's attempt with XV was more deserving of the Final Fantasy name, to be honest.
>>539853791>nearly 10 million copies were sold>within just the first 3 yearsNow let's look at Claire's full power. See >>539807496
>>539859407>low budget spinoffsThe level of coping is simply unimaginable.
>>539859428We've already seen her full power. It was found wanting. See >>539856687
>>539859407>7R are low budget KH spinoffsSadly true. Many are saying this since Rebirth underperformed. 7R3 is expected to sell even less.
>>539858215>How many players are paying for a subscription?I asked you that first, I'm afraid. In lieu of a current hard total subscriber number, it can only be inferred and guesstimated. 90% of all XIV accounts aren't paying for anything, that's to be sure, based on all available evidence that can be gathered. Multiple sources claim between 20-40 million "players", but the "active non-trial players" count has never gone far above 1 million accounts and is currently below 1 million accounts. Let's be generous and double the figure and say there are 2 million active subscribers on average on any given month who are paying for a monthly subscription.Is 2 million players anywhere near "24 million copies sold"? Wouldn't the other 22-38 million accounts they have tracked automatically be considered free trial accounts or even lapsed customers without anything concrete to state the contrary? 20+ million people have bought the game and said "yeah, this is not for me".>>539858917It seems to be accurate, which is why Yoshida celebrated the highest player counts in 2019 (over 1 million), and also why SE openly said they are concerned about XIV's player numbers in 2025, which is less than 1 million, a 6 year low
>>539859770SE has never stated those numbers that you've inserted. They did celebrate 30 Million XIV players not long ago though, hope that helps.
>>539859623>first week sales >(in japan btw, these are only Japan numbers)>full powerMy Beautiful Goddess, as you can see, they are afraid. They are very, very afraid.
>>539859770fwiw the player-numbers also have two factors, both of which are bubbles>WoW basement dwellers leaving (happened somewhere between beginning of endwalker and beginning of dawntrail)>COVID player boomboth enormous population explosions saw a corresponding enormous fall, afterwardsSE says they're worried about XIV's player count, yoshida himself meanwhile doesn't seem to actually give a shit and still advises players to go away if they're bored and come back later
>>539859884You can't honestly believe that there are more than 2 million people paying a sub every month, can you?Where are you getting this information from? "30 million players"? You can't be serious, right?
>>539859972How strong is she really though? Could she take on full power Clive? I don't think so.
>>539807828They'll make up any lie they want. Or maybe they just don't know Square's history at all, which is understandable, since they're not true fans of the series.
>>539852674Based Final Fantasy record keeperYou've upset the ignorant XIIIfag
>>539860217>Following the tremendous success of multiple Kitase/Nojima/Toriyama/Nomura led video games, negotiations resumed and the merger went ahead on April 1, 2003Thank God Squaresoft was forever saved by Nomura and Toriyama led FF kino, otherwise the franchise may have truly died forever before even reaching the HD era.
>>539860147>Where are you getting this information from?Square Enix. Where are you getting your info from? Oh right, hearsay and conjecture.Nice try though.
>>539860582>30 million adventurersthis means over 30 million characters were created boyo, it does not mean 30 million active playersevery single MMO uses slippery language like this
>>539860209Strong enough to kill the Creator God of the world she lives in, not some autistic ayyyyylmao transformer alien.
>>539860209Clive only lost to Barnabas (a gay guy)Claire only lost to the embodiment of Chaos (a real nigga)Claire also doesn't need to become a giant rock beast man and do shonen just to get you to feel something, so she wins based on her emotional complexity alone
Yeah, this is why Nomura can’t stand this guy. He’s got neither passion nor any real creative vision for games
what happened that all of the autistic nomura hate transmuted over into autistic yoshida hate
>Sakaguchi makes a Hollywood bait movie for theatres and vaporizes 100 million dollars, the film has nothing to do with FF at all, zero influence over the future of the franchise>Nomura makes an FF movie direct to the consumer and generates 100 million dollars, influences the future of the franchise for the next 20 years straightHeh, nothing personnel.
>>539861651I like Nomura's games, but they aren't Final Fantasy.There's a reason he's been relegated to low budget spinoffs.
>>539861497>he said this yesterdayWhy can't he stop saying stupid shit every single week
At the end of the day, Sakaguchi games are still much better than Nomura games. Even all his post-Square Mistwalker games are all really good and punch way above their weight.No one can really match Sakaguchi.
Kitase games are much better than Sakaguchi games.
>>539864020They really aren't. Kitase did well when he worked alongside Sakaguchi on games like FFV though.
>>539864020Truth
>directs FFVI>directs Chrono Trigger>directs FFVII>directs FFVIII>directs FFXWhat a hell of a run. Kind of unbelievable, really. What a rockstar
>>539807496Uruwashiki megami yo...
>>539864991Giving Kitase credit for Chrono Trigger is wildShitposter tier
>>539865338I guess Sakaguchi, Hori, Toriyama, Squaresoft and Enix are all shitposters for giving Kitase credit. Keep going, I wanna see how far you'll go.
>>539863938I liked Fantasian
Vanille May Cry will save Final Fantasy by the way. In case you all didn't know.
>>539863938lost odyssey and the last story are kino, I’ll give you thatthe rest? not even worth pirating
>>539865045new Goddess photoshoot coming soon
>>539865338>Shitposter tierYou are indeed speaking to the shitposter.
>>539870229Now there's the true Dream Team. Kitase could never.
>>539870120Damn, Nao's heart won't let go.
>>539870312Kitase is a madmanSomehow Nomura is actually more grounded than him
>>539870229>>539870312>NOOOOO KITASE DIDN'T WORK ON CHRONO TRIGGER!!!But he directed the game. Seethe about it forever?
>>539870501He was irrelevant. Matsui-P even had more involvement than him. You love Kitase too much, shitposter-kun.
>>539870594>Sakaguchi, Hori, Toriyama, Squaresoft and Enix are all shitposters for giving Kitase director creditPretty desperate. He will remake Chrono Trigger next and you'll die mad about it lmfao
>>539870501Takashi Tokita is one of the best Square's directors and creators. Give him money for a AAA game.>but what about The Bounc-Even geniuses have their mistakes.>but what about Parasite Eve Tw-Sometimes there is more than one misatke.
>>539870435Singlehandedly doing more to manifest the FFXIII remaster with her cosplays than any other person on this planet is capable of
>>539870762I would trust Nomura to do it more. He did a good job supervising the SMRPG Remake for example. Nintendo didn't let anyone fuck with it and it was a perfect 1:1 Remake like 7R should have been.
I miss when the shitposters were still pretending that they didn't immediately evade their bans.
>>539870781Why not? Give him the Rebirth system, 20 million dollars and a team and let him make Parasite Eve "Replicate". Square Enix has no excuse to not be making a new AAA horror game
>246 filtered postsJesus Christ why
I'm finally going to give the ff7 remakes a go. Sub or dub? What is the patrician way to play?I guess same question for ff16 in the future...
>>539873059because you’re soft
>>539873059>using filters on a Prussian pottery forum.Just go to Reddit
>>539871632>let him make Parasite Eve "Replicate"Legal hell. Sena, as the author of the novel, probably owns the rights to the original story, elements of which were used in PE1. Sena is rumored to dislike the games in the series, and for this reason, the project may not take off: they didn't call the third installment "The Third Birthday" for nothing. On the other hand, there are interviews where he speaks positively about the first game. His attitude towards the series is not crystally clear.Then, Kadokawa owns the redistribution and publishing rights for the Parasite Eve IP. Now now, since Feb 2025 Sony is partnering with Kadokawa for strategic purposes, so let's assume that this somehow magically allows them to take control of the brand and release games in the series without Sena's approval. Assuming the premise is correct, it would take Sony's willingness to make "Parasite Eve 1 Remake" or smth like "Parasite Eve Kiwami: Aya's SEXY Town Building Journey (Featuring Goro Majima from the Yakuza series and Kotaro Katsura from the Gintama series). SE, in turn, just owns the rights to the games only.Basically at this point it is an absolute legal Vanilleclusterfuck, involving at least 4 parties. The situation is probably even worse than with Xenogears. That's why we don't see HD-2D remasters of those games or anything like that.P.S. I would also point out that creating a new game in a series that doesn't share much elements with the original novel is a significantly easier task for obvious legal reasons.
>>539870501Delete this
>another wall of text
>>539874642>Sena, as the author of the novel, probably owns the rights to the original story>probablySo you're talking out of your ass AGAIN.Aren't you ashamed of constantly making your mediocrity known to all?
...That's a BLITZBALL in the background.Literally the Blitzball from FFX.This is in FFVII: Ever Crisis.Kitase going all in on the "Nojima really did link X's Spira with VII's Gaia, the Shinra kid in X-2 is *the* founder of Shinra, Inc."To be clear, this also isn't to say FFVII's "The Planet" is (was?) Spira. No. But in the X-2 Ultimania(?), it's heavily implied by Nojima that Shinra (the young boy) *leaves Spira*, and settles a colony on another planet, intending on mining its resources...What that implies most of all is that the worlds the Final Fantasy games are set on, at least somewhat, are within the same solar system, or possibly universe.…Wait. Materia are crystallised Mako SPHERES.Mako is the energy siphoned from the Planet’s (VII’s) Lifestream (memories/spirits of the dead).Spheres in X/X-2 were visual recordings (memories).Shinra (the kid) was a member of the Gullwings, a group of sphere hunters.
>>539880280How does "Blitzball originate from FFVII" improve either FFVII or FFX?
>>539878961Does not change the conclusion. And during the course of the post, a scenario was even presented where Sena's authorship of PE may not be such an important factor. Regardless of whether Sena has the rights to the original story and whether he needs to be asked for permission to create a new game, remaking PE 1 or any other game in the series is fraught with legal difficulties. The question is how many of these difficulties there are: either a lot or a very, very lot.Now please post Vanille or something, or play Fragrant Fantasy XIII or something, or say Serah's name and play her game or something.
>>539881774>Does not change the conclusionWrong. It does. Because if you don't know what you're talking about, it casts doubts on your conclusion as well.And it's sad you're too retarded to understand this.Also I played XIII, worst game I ever played. Even Inescapable was better.
>>539882901The fatherless cannot handle criticism. It always has to move the goalposts and deflect.
>>539882901You need to learn to reason with incomplete information, friend. It's not that difficult: the legal relationships between Sena, Kadokawa, Sony, and SE regarding Parasite Eve are, strictly speaking, a black box, however, you don't need to understand every detail of this system of relationships to understand that it will be quite difficult to legally make a game that was never a humongous hit, that is known for surrounding... misunderstandings between the author of the novel, publishers and SE, and the rights to which are scattered among at least three agents.The SaGA series, for example, doesn't have these problems. That's why we regularly get remasters of SaGa games.Now, if you have something to say about the substance of the problem, rather than once again calling someone on the Internet a retard, I look forward to your response. Have Vanille.
Like clockwork, the fatherless get rekt with arguments, and it immediately deflects. What a sad life to have no father, no rizz, and no real counter arguments.And XIII still sucks ass.
>>539884441>And XIII still sucks ass.THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
>>539884307>You need to learn to reason with incomplete informationAKA "source: dude trust me"
>>539781073>>539781624This
>>539793692So what about all those PS5 screenshots?
>>539794713Gentiana is an even more nobody character.
>>539798141>>539798074>>539798061>>539798475>>539798578Holy melty
>>539802843>offtopic schizo shitpostingGo back to worshipping your goddess, cultist.
>>539814171>remake honoring the ps1 gamesThe older games didn't have bloat, walky talky sections, slow walk sections, bad AI, sloppy action combat, hallways, poor filler characters like andrea and Chadley, and bad writing. It also had a full cast of characters to play as well. Cid, red, and Vincent, anyone?
After watching several Combo Mad videos on YouTube, I'm convinced that Rebirth's combat system is the most complex and deep in the entire series. It combines the capabilities and churayziness of action games, even including the ability to juggle enemies in mid-air, with depth of RPG builds building.
>>539848238This
>>539851930Yeah they needed to introduce chaos in the first and do more with etro or whoever. It just makes the sequels weaker.>>539860209Nah. Clive and Noctis might be the strongest. Maybe Zidane in lore, too.
>>539870501>one of 3>>539870496What a hack!
>>539895564Too bad only Tifa can really realize any of that. Yuffie is fun too, but that's it.
>>539896572Cloud, Tifa, and Yuffie are capable of keeping enemies in the air. It's possible Red can do this too, but I haven't checked. The combos themselves aren't necessarily based on Tifa's moves, as ice spells have a launcher function in the game, the most important in juggling combo mads.
Oh and I suspect Cait Cinema can juggle too. At least his basic attacks are capable of this, but the action functions of specific abilities need to be checked.
>>539873520If pc, play with sub / proper english translation mod
I guess the remake simp is the same as the "newfag 13fag". Keep on thinking it's two people and I go back and forth between one idea and the other.
>>539905361We know.
>>539905361
>>539884307You really pissed off that shitposter good, all because you dared to speculate on Parasite Eve. Really, really weird. But not surprising
>>539909516We could have avoided this if Jimbo could get over 7r
>>539912371>>539912609Speak of the devil.
>>539912745Everyone is out to get you after all
>>539895564>>539897167>>539897319I don't know how, but you also seem to have pissed off a shitposter by simply praising FFVIIR.
>>539912745Yup, he's here.
>>539909372>>539914738>stale xitter shitpostsYou have to go back
>burns 100 million dollars for a flop digital actress waifu at the height of his influenceWhat the fuck was he thinking?
>>539916696He was ahead of his time.
>>539916696>>539916774Yup, he was just ahead of his time. Same reason the Dreamcast failed. Spirits Within is a very technologically impressive movie. It's not bad either, it just should not have been called "Final Fantasy", it should have been like "Squaresoft presents:" or whatever if they wanted the "crossover" audience.
Spirits Within is still better than XVI.
>>539914738He samefagged himself 3 times already. I wonder what he has in store for the rest of today.
>>539916774>>539916993I'm watching this movie and it's garbage.
>>539917608Who? Where?
>>539917681>paused the movie to take screenshots and shitpostreminds me of someone
>>539919136Lord knows this movie is not entertaining enough.
>>539917469No way. XVI is much better than this. XVI still has entertainment value, all things considered
>>539919986Maybe for some. I thought XVI was one of the single most boring pieces of media I've ever consumed.
>>539919136Dude, you actually called it. Holy shit. It literally was him.
>>539920085Lightning succeeded where Aki Ross failed....>>539920243I thought the cutscenes and a few bosses were very good, if not overly long. The "big budget episodes" are all solid in isolation. It's the rest of the game, the countless hours of timewasting and shot/reverse shot fetch quest conversations that brings the whole thing down to an irredeemable level>>539920456Oh my GOD! HE'S BEEN CAUGHT! He said....Spirits Within sucks.....we've got him now
>>539919136kek gottem
>>539917681watch it through at least twice and play all the bonus content as wellbefore you even THINK about bringing your shit opinion here little bro
>>539920751How has anyone been "gotten"? Try to explain in a way that isn't schizophrenic
>>539921046>someone was slightly critical of yoshida.webmlol
>>539921423kek
>>539919136Now he deflected to Yoshida out of nowhere as a samefag to his own post. I don't know how Sakaguchi's Spirit's Within is connected to Yoshida, but he thinks they are. He's going to be VERY busy today at this rate. He might even make over 100 shitposts today.
>>539921868Yes, I am your daddy. Think about me and my imaginary posts all night and day
>>539921983>my imaginary postsThey aren't imaginary, little guy. You're actively making them. You saw how peaceful this thread was when you were pretending that you didn't evade your ban. There was actual Final Fantasy discussion as well.
Spirits Within is worse than XVI
>>539922154Every single post that you don't like was always written by me, yeah we've been here before. You're losing your mind over Final Fantasy
>>539922182>>539923195"Expertly" spaced out, incredibly obvious samefag shitpost. You are a practiced veteran. I'll leave you to it, though. You've got like 13 hours ahead of you still. Maybe if you shitpost hard enough you can roll over into a new thread today and end your Sunday by shitposting about the OP of the new thread like you always do. Praying for you, little guy!
>>539919136>>539921046XVI bros really do be like this
>>539923487What the fuck are you talking about, schizo?
>>539848840Based!
>>539808440It ain't much, but it's honest.
I tried playing Dragon Quest last night...Can now confirm that those games are all much worse than Final Fantasy
>>539924764Yeah I think we know. DQ games are quite boring mechanics wise from what I've seen, with cliche-filled "feel good" stories. Cute iconic artstyle, there's been lots of influential stuff over the years, but nowhere near as global as Final Fantasy is. 90% of it doesn't appeal to me really much at all. I'm ready to be a Dragon Quest fan, but nothing has ever hooked my attention. I'm going to try out DQ I+II HD though and I eagerly await to see what DQXII looks like.
>>539924764DQV is very good. All of the other DQ games are exactly the same, but worse.
>>539925931>DQV is very goodWhat do you think of VII? It looks soulful and it's supposed to be fixing the original games pacing problems
>>539925931Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will now watch the Netflix adaptation
I think DQ3 is really one of those rare games that completely nail JRPG pacing. All of the first 3 are short and sweet but there's something about 3 that makes it very enjoyable to replay.
>>539927275Apparently the movie implodes in upon itself in the last 5 minutes, but Reddit liked it up until then.
DQ is a bit off topic but I don't mind. As long as we're talking about good rpgs made by Square and not trash like XVI.
>>539927635If there's something we can thank XVI for, it's that it at least stopped them from making DQXII actionslop.
We found a way to steer the conversation back to the 10/10 FFXVI
Dragon Quest XII will save Square Enix?
>>539926351That's some real dogshit cover art lol
>Dragon Quest>made by Squarehmm the shitposter is not too bright it seems
>>539928041We always do. It is the single most talked about and referenced Final Fantasy game on /ffg/.
>>539928217え?
>>539927635Why are you like this?
>>539928159small indie company, please understand
>>539928497...and Sazh is there too I guess.
>>539928468People really don't like what XVI didI think you should accept it
>>539928468gottem
>>539928293The company has been called Square Enix for over 20 years now.....don't tell him
>>539929860I don't like XIII but I'd still rank it above XVI. XVI is rock bottom for this franchise.
>>539929860Actually, the majority reviewed XVI very positively.You seem to be a minority.>>539928468He's basically a tripfag
>>539929726He's a great character and you can ride Chocobos with him, go on Hunts and even beat the final boss with him. He's a solid B+ player.
>>539931391XVI had basically everything it really needed to be a great game. If only it was a party based RPG with a satisfactory exploration loop, it would have turned out just fine.
>>539931945Would be cool. XVI-2 with Job system and 4 dudes in a row would be neat
>>539931945I still think 90% of the cast having zero personality is still an issue.
>>539932259but enough about XIII
>>539931945Add a party and exploration to XVI and it becomes XII, the best Final Fantasy.
>>539932157They already had the time, budget and opportunity to make a Final Fantasy game, and they didn't do that. At all. No Jobs, no party, no nothing. So a sequel could only be smaller in scope, not larger. Duh>>539932259Yes, the characters were certainly boring. But if the game were designed as a party based RPG, the main Dominants would have all been given more direct attention when it comes to their interactions with each other. Character interactions would be reframed into gameplay systems and party banter rather than just being various plot points on an Active Time Lore map that you see during cutscenes. It would make everything that they were attempting 10x better. Even though Joshua and Jill are both dry, they could still easily connect to the player if they were playable and had deeper interactions with the player by proxy (how do you outfit them, what skills do you choose, what party makeup do you use) I really liked Joshua in fact and so him being such an afterthought systems wise instead of being a living breathing protagonist with equipment and skills was seriously crap. I'm not asking you to rewrite Joshua and Jill, I just want them to be real Final Fantasy characters, not wallpaper.>>539932885Clinically insane levels of cope
>>539931945Even if they slapped some RPG elements into XVI it'd still just go from trash to mid. XVI is just a knockoff GoT with boring characters and a garbage story that's got zero personality. There's a good reason people call it medieval Naruto because it's desperate for an identity.
>>539932157Yes, a return to the quintessential FFV approachIt's what the series needs.
>>539933238I would have really been down with "medieval Naruto" Final Fantasy though, that's the thing.8 playable characters, all of them are bijuu that transform into the Eidolons for their Limit Breaks?Real time action hack and slash cuhrayzee gameplay?Dark fantasy aesthetics and FUCKING swearing? BLOOD?The power of FRIENDSHIP in a dark and lonely world?This really has my 12 year old self written all over it. Sounds like a dream game, to be honest.Too bad, so sad.
sex with benedikta my wife
>>539933859Every single XVI character who isn't Hugo...
>budgetReminder that all actual evidence points towards a budget of ~59 million, and the only "evidence" to the contrary it the list of a source that no layperson can check themselves.
Do I believe that FFXVI was cheaper than XIII?No, no I do not.
>>539934510there's what you believeand then there's the 10/10 reality
>Hey grok, what was the budget of Final Fantasy XIII compared to Final Fantasy XVI?Oh.
>>539935321Adjusting for inflation, their budgets are pretty similar.
>Hey grok, what was the profit generated for XIII compared to XVI.....?It can't be....
>Hey, Grok, is it tr-
>>539935772Actually hilarious
>>539935772Someone is getting really emotionally invested nowWonder what that could be about
>>539921046>>539921551>>539921423Uh oh, another melty!
>the faggot who constantly loses his shit over "AI" images which aren't even made by AI now acquires his "information" to shitpost with from AIThe cognitive dissonance of his entire existence must be absolutely unbearable for his brain to handle. I guess the funniest part of this revelation is that even grok thinks XVI cost $59 million USD to make. >>539935772>or just next-level bait?The saddest part is that it's not bait. He's been doing it too long to be bait. Maybe it's a "bit", like how the Jimbo detective disappeared overnight and was miraculously instantly replaced with XIIIkun a week later who kept saying "I'm brand new to this thread guys, I've never been here before", but none of his personality is bait. This is just who he is.
>>539935772Irrefutable, I'm afraid.
>>539934813Your reality and my reality are probably different because my reality taught me that metacritic scores are always deceptive.
>>539933029Your buddy the X-2 fag told me that jobs do not make a FF game.
>>539936302Actually, no, the X-2fag is part of my faction.
>say "XVI sucks">conspiracies get written about you for year(s)Please, do tell us more about how "not" gotten to you are about XVI discourse
>>539933681>everyone needs to be a good guy and playable>>539935612>>539935321>needs AI to tell it how to thinkAnd to think it called others chatbots.
>>539936485>makes up fanfiction about ximself because xe got btfo on 4chanYou are one sad, strange little troon.
>>539921423My sides.
>>539921046Sakaguchi was right about XVI.
>>539936302>Your buddy the X-2 fagI hate the XIII shitposter just as much as you do, don't lump me in with him. He has himself occasionally shitposted using X-2 and/or pictures of YRP, but I am not him and I wish he would leave but he might be even more schizo than Barry is, so he's never going to. He's going to shit this place up until he is literally the only person left, and then he's going to samefag himself and curate his safespace shitpost hugbox unopposed, which is somehow exactly what he wants. Only 9/18 games have the jobs system, and that's if you include X-2, the MMOs, and Tactics. It's 5/14 if you remove X-2, the MMOs, and Tactics. Less than half.
>>539936285Choose whatever platform you want, the reality is that reviews for FFXVI were very positive.
>>539936302Who's my buddy? X-2 is cute and flawed. I think we like Toriyama, fan service, heroines and Jobs here, that's all.He's right, to address your point. "Jobs" don't make a Final Fantasy game, though RPG mechanics do, especially when those mechanics are integrated thematically in new and unique interesting ways alongside the characters. See Final Fantasy IV, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XIII, VIIR. Most of the games don't have "Jobs", even though everyone likes a good system. My favorite recent one is SoP for sure. It was amazing.>>539936735>makes up fanfiction about his ex boyfriend because he was slightly critical of Yoshida on 4chan>everyone who makes fun of Yoshida is the same guySomeone sure is laughing.
>I think we like ToriyamaHmmm... https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/539111591/#q539178906
>instant "Paulie"He sure did do a serious number on you boys.
>>539933510It always comes back to the quintessential FFV desu
If it warks like a Chocobo, runs like a Chocobo, and kwehs like a Chocobo... it might be a Chocobo.
Why am I not allowed to like Motomu Toriyama again?
>>539937252As positive as normies think of hollywood slop, yes.
>>539938054It's too bad that Paulie is not my name. Despite your best efforts to associate me with your ex boyfriend, I've only been posting here since 2024
>>539916774>>539916993...how in the world did these posts trigger the shitposter into melting down about Yoshida all day?
>>539937436>getting mad at your own weird strawman-fanfiction hybrid again Come on now.>>539937805Reminds me of Yojimbo and Yoshida fans. Someone's always talking about them as well.
>>539936514>everyone needs to be a good guy and playableI think that more than Clive needed to be playable, yeahPretty big failure point.>how to thinkThey're just some budget/profit numbers. What are you getting upset about, specifically?Try to explain in a non schizophrenic way
>>539937165Based explorer!!>>539937436Cringe shitposter...
>>539938271Because he got called out immediately here lol>>539919136has been melting ever since
>>539938667Who is getting upset? Don't start projecting now, it's very telling.
>>539938536>Reminds me of Yojimbo and Yoshida fans. Someone's always talking about them as well.Huh. You're right. Let's even take a look at a post like this:>>539938059>Why am I not allowed to like Motomu Toriyama again?No one said you couldn't like him. I haven't seen many shitposts about him, if any, other than to shit on Lightning. Let's flip this question though: what would you think if someone said they liked Yoshida? Would you shitpost about Yoshida 24/7 in response to someone not shitposting about Yoshida? Cuz there is at least one guy here who does that, and yet it's Toriyamafag who thinks he's under attack. Curious.
>>539938054what is the imagery of this scene trying to convey
>>539938785It just doesn't make any sense though. The conversation was: >"holy shit spirits within sucks what was sakaguchi thinking">he was ahead of his time>actually it wasn't that bad, just shouldn't have been called FF...and then he started melting down about Yoshida, like how is Yoshida even connected to this? And before the shitposter chimes in to say "XVI was a flop LMAO!", all actual numbers indicate that it made 50-100mil within the first week of sales. Even his own Grok shitpost thinks that XVI only took $59mil to produce.
>Spirits Within sucks ass, 100 million dollars for a failed digital waifu>XVI sucks too but it's not as bad as this>XIII was a "failure" but still generated twice the profit as XVII mean folks, where's the lie?
>>539939869XIII alone or the entire trilogy?
>>539939306Cloud has Chocobo energy, he's both cute and studly, the ideal balance>>539940037XIII alone, I'm afraid. The whole trilogy dwarves XVI by a significant margin
>>539939493Even if it did better than break even, it still didn't do as well as they had hoped. This is a direct statement from SE themselves.Rebirth too, but that's not part of this conversation.
>>539939869>>539940074Stop samefagging on cooldown, lil bro. Just make one post with your complete shitpost inside of it.
oof. Swing and a miss.
So I guess no one is ever going to explain how 2 posters saying Spirits Within wasn't that bad turned into an entire day's long meltdown about Yoshida.
>>539940074Hello, "my phone". You are highly agreeable today. Shall we execute the "operation" now?Lmfao
>>539940417Yoshida is the main character of /ffg/. The entire general revolves around him.
honestly I think it's because pre XIII the FF name still carried some weight, I remember people being really hyped for it (and Versus) back then, that kind of hype for FF died post XIIIyou could switch the two games and the result would be the same imo, a 2009 XVI would outsell a 2025 XIII
>>539940417Probably because that never occurred, bozoBut 2 posters here do think Spirits Within is good, now that's some sketch comedyWatch someone start muse posting Aki Ross here and then get called out for false flagging as the other side lol>>539940890>ignores Final Fantasy XV>ignores Final Fantasy VII Remake....nani
>>539940074Why don't we make Rebirth part of the conversation. For instance, did you know that the fastest selling PS5 exclusive FFXVI outsold it 2x over?
>>539940890meant for >>539940070
>>539940561So by this logic, all negative posts/shitposts (ex: >>539916696) are just an extension of a Yoshida shitpost, and all positive posts/"defenses" is really that person defending Yoshida. That doesn't make any sense. And there must also be caveats, because there seems to be at least 2 different games (both trilogies, coincidentally) which no one can say anything negative about lest they also become a Yoshida defender. I just wish I knew the rules.
>>539941003>"that never happened">"and if it did it was a good thing">"and also here's a telegraph of my own future plans"Weird flex, but okay
>>539940561There's a difference between a main character and just being a laughing stock.
>>539940890There is at least some truth to this. See: https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/720359989/#q720386545
>>539941034Some say it was 3x over.It really wasn't a high bar to clear.
>>539941003>ignores Final Fantasy XVI unironically refuse to believe the numbers about it, they must be fudged in some way>ignores Final Fantasy VII Remakehard carried by the "VII" part
>>539941943>I unironically refuse to believe the numbers about it, they must be fudged in some wayMy personal anecdote is that I've purchased XV 5 different times (2 collector's editions, 1 deluxe edition, 1 that came with the XV PS4, and then PC), and I haven't purchased Remake, XVI, or Rebirth. I'm a pirate only chad now when it comes to Final Fantasy.
>>539941943>let's just conveniently ignore those ~20-30 million software units, teeheeIncluding FFXIII trilogy with FFXV and FFVII series, Final Fantasy home console game releases have moved around ~40 million units in 15 years. Around 10 million just in the last 5 years for VIIR series alone. FFXIV online boasts nearly ~40 million "players", although there is no hard data on how many of those people have actually bought the game/expacs/subscriptions. It's still a major money maker either way.Modern Final Fantasy can sell copies and make money, but there's an "expectations" game that is not being met with each and every entry, which creates more and more fractures in the fanbase. The next game can bring everyone to the table and unite over the shared vision, or it has to be a game that completely abandons the aging fanbase entirely, the way games like FFXV did.
>>539943219>It's still a major money maker either way.The most profitable Final Fantasy ever, one could truthfully say.
>>539943434MMO's sure do make a lot of easy money off marks, yes.
>>539943547It also sure does make for a lot of retarded underaged fanbases
Paulie has been crashing out more often lately. Shorter fuse. Must have suffered a tremendous L recently and too eager to get revenge or claw back a win.
>>539944939>>539945410....Final Fantasy?
I wish XVI wasn't so boring and dull. Shit sucks, man.
>>539947665Skill issue
>>539940561>Yoshida is the main character of /ffg/. The entire general revolves around him.Can we get a (good) Yoshida OP for next thread? /ffg/ truly is more like /ypg/
His name is yoshitpiss
>>539948781According to the rules it would need to be a pic of Yoshi-P as a loli without any references to XVI nor XIV.@grok Does such an image exist?
FFX-2 is extremely underrated.
>>539953697Not really. Cute girls though.
>>539953697FFX-2 is FFV but better after all.
>>539954601*Worse
>>539954601>>539955083The quintessential FFV seems to beat X-2 hands down.
>>539955420Yep. The debate is settled.
Imagine wasting your weekend spamming off-topic and low quality posts while ban evading in a slow and dead imageboard
>>539954601>kino fantasy is better than inferior dragon questNot a high bar tbqhwy
>>539936285The most disappointing final boss and final sequence in the franchise. I kneel before Odin and Ragnarok for being so low and vastly inferior that this is the only way to see them at eye level.
>>539953697>FFX-2 is extremely underrated.I'm not a fan of open world slop, but X-2 is by far the most underrated Final Fantasy game. It has literally every single gameplay related thing that the loudest shitposters here bitch about, and still they claim to hate it. >>539954601While this is not my shitpost, I do agree with it. It's also XIII but better ("same" combat, but more options and no auto battle), and it's also XIII-2 but better (again, "same" combat, also has the ability to put Creatures in the party, and is so cuhrazy that you don't even need to use YRP at all and the speedrun beats the game using only creatures as the party for the story of the game)
>>539955420We've always known this.X-2-kun has just been coping recently as a reaction to FFV enjoyers.
>>539959715>recentlyI've actually been praising X-2 here for years at this point, so if anyone is doing anything "recently" it's Vfag(s)I do remember that someone (not me) said "it's X-2 but better" somewhat "recently", and that's what you guys have been coping about
>>539959715Sad to see it
FFV has no fans.
>>539964209Its popularity is artificially inflated by the Four Job Fiesta, which has since been co-opted and turned into something else.
>>539955420I've heard many are recommending FFV these daysI've never heard anyone recommend X-2
>>539966439>I've never heard anyone recommend X-2That's because it's by far the most underrated Final Fantasy game. Most people who call themselves Final Fantasy fans have never even played it.
>>539966439I'll recommend X-2 for an entertaining combat systemI will never recommend X-2 for it's story.Actually I will never recommend any FF direct sequel. They are ALL bad. (expansions are different and confusing)
>>539966439It’s just different. The “girl power” vibe can be a bit off-putting but the gameplay is some of the best in the series.
>>539965195What popularity? Even among Super Famicom FF titles, IV and VI are popular, but V isn't.
>>539968310>I'll recommend X-2 for an entertaining combat systemAll of the gameplay systems are top tier. It's literally *everything* that the shitposters here say that they want. The story is pretty cute if you go in with an open mind and understand that it's basically Charlie's Angels or Totally Spies. Which, by the way, is another shitpost - that something takes itself too seriously, which X-2 does not at all. X-2 is literally the remedy to all of /ffg/'s shitposts. >minigames (Creature Creator is even the best one in the series)>doesn't take itself seriously>ATB>job system (with job switching mid combat and garment grids offering more complexity)It's even the last Squaresoft game, which beats that shitpost as well>>539968634>What popularity?The "hipster" online popularity. It's got somewhat of a small cult following, which is still more than X-2 has
I'm playing FFantasian tonight.What Final Fantasy games are you all playing?
>>539968941>X-2 is literally the remedy to all of /ffg/'s shitpostsIf only things could be this simple
>SE posting screenshots of the Switch 2 version acting like it’s a new game no one’s played before
>>539974959Nintendrones haven't though.
>>539974959tifa’s cloud kissing lips…
>>539969219>What Final Fantasy games are you all playing?Chrono Trigger
i got distracted with the actual game and forgot about hunts for a very long time and having to back track to all the hunts is gonna make me go insane, im assuming i have to do every hunt if i wanna see yzimat?
>>539979284Definitely a top 5 Sakaguchi game
>>539979284what if they stop making FF titles and suddenly went back to making more Chrono Trigger
>>539979284>>539980915>>539982486Not Final Fantasy
>>539982486>suddenly went back to making more Chrono TriggerIf they made games that were the same quality as Chrono Trigger, that would be phenomenal and in the best interest of video gaming as a whole. However, considering that Chrono Cross and I Am Setsuna and Lost Sphear are what we get when they try to do Chrono Trigger again... well, I guess it's not the worst, but it's not Chrono Trigger.
>>539940070>XIII alone, I'm afraidShe sold billions. She killed millions. She saved vanillions.She and all other XIII girls killed gorillions....
Aerith is my wife.
>>539980915*Kitase>>539870501
>>539992497How does she do it?
>>539992497Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy Remastered soon. Trust the plan.
FF8 deserves a remake more than FF9
>>539944939Three times in the past month someone asked "what was jimbo wrong about?" and not a single member of the 100 man council even tried to answer it. I think this simple act that proved he's the bogeyman of a single obsessed anon here has made somebody a little cranky.>>539994534I do think a XIII trilogy remaster is likely in the pipeline, but maybe putting all three games in one package is too big? Then again most new games are almost 200gb these days.
>>539996206>VIII sold incredibly well>IX flopped>yet, IX is getting a remakeI don't understand it.
>>539996757You can sell it at 70 bucks and make shitllions off of it.
>IX is getting a remakeSource?
>>539938946Why didn't he answer you?
>>539939869>>539953697>>539954601>>539958878Hello X-2fag, see>>539937165
>>539955420>>539959715>>539966439Based V scholars
>>539954601Irrefutable I'm afraid.
Toriyama should have been the director of FFXVI.
>>539994534>>539996757Reminder XIII has the same problem X did where SE didnt keep shit from the original production and a remaster project would only happen with a third party developer literally having to recreate the old game from scratch.
Indeed, we need to recreate XIII from scratch.Final Fantasy XIII Remake (Abandonment Kino Edition)...https://youtu.be/d3KRt1xdRTo
>>540003557True. Irrefutable even.
>>539992497>>539994534>>540003557>>540005992What a truly fragrant morning. Wow, I'm impressed.It's going to be a good day.
>>539794713Okay, I'm just gonna compare what I remember about both characters since I played XVI and XV relatively recently.Gentiana->Spends most of her time standing next to Lunafreya saying nothing>Shows up on the train for a lore dump>Gives Noctis her blessing and the ability to summon her>Shows up during the Ifrit fight to ice himJill->Spends most of her time standing next to Clive saying nothing>Gets captured and then saved by Clive>Gets revenge on her first group of captors with Clive's assistance>Gets captured and then saved by Clive (again)>Gets captured and then saved by Clive (again again)>Gives Clive Shiva powersI guess Gentiana at least has more agency, which is pretty fucking embarrassing for XVI when XV is often derided for its female characters having little agency.
Toriyama >>>> Yoshida any day of the week
>>539796949I still don't know why the fuck he promised this. The design of XVI is focused entirely on Clive and him having a beefy moveset. What would playable Jill and Cid even be? Just Clive with only Shiva or Ramuh abilities usable?
>>540019287>him having a beefy movesetwhich they also failed at
>>540019287>yfw it was only ever going to be D-pad Commands like Torgal
>>539796949>make Cid and Jill playable characters in the main storyThe fact that he put 'qualifiers' on this happening rather than standing up for any sort of 'creative vision', proves this was never going to happen and was quite literally just another lie designed to take your money.
>he only wears one ring>his wedding ringbased real man
>all those hot topic rings>no wedding ringI think I've said enough
>>540019287And WHEN would they be playable? Cid is dead or not in your party for most of the game, and Jill is kidnapped or not in your party for most of the game as well. Would they go through the trouble of creating their movesets and animations just to make a few exclusive stages for them? If you think about it for even a second the whole playable Jill and Cid thing never made sense to do to begin with. You would need to completely rewrite the game to accommodate that.
>>540020112all that jewelry he probably got told to wear so he could appeal to his mmo fanbase.
>>540020112He's married to his work, and his work is an abusive spouse.
>>540020204So you're saying Yoshida doesn't make his own wardrobe decisions? Everything you see about his persona is just a calculated business decision? Good god, you might be right>>540020268I wonder why Yoshida is the only person who is abused by working on Final Fantasy, everyone else seems to love doing it no matter what critics say
>>540020568Nomura very clearly does not want to be involved in almost everything his name gets attached on.
>>539895001>The older games didn't have bloatThey were generally leaner experiences, yes, and I hope they can get back to that at some point.>walky talky / slow walkYeah, these are anal cancer. There needs to be an industry-wide purge of this shit ASAP.>bad AIThe combat AI is mostly good. During some fights, your party members will stand around like retards and eat damage from easily avoidable attacks, but for the most part, they're good at not getting hit in stupid ways and know how to space themselves and guard against attacks. Their AI is also pretty good with using abilities autonomously when you slap the appropriate materia on them. Like Cloud will actually use focused thrust at good moments when an enemy is pressured, characters will only cure you if you genuinely need it and won't burn through their MP carelessly, et cetera.>sloppy action combatIf you're somehow doing poorly at suck to target combat, that's 100% on you.>hallwaysI've been saying it since XIII, but I really don't mind hallways and don't see how random encounter fields are somehow inherently better. Both can work in their own design frameworks.>poor filler charactersYeah, the VII universe could use some pruning at this point. The extended cast of characters is ridiculously bloated. Why they insist on shoving literally everyone from past VII media into the Remake series is beyond me.>bad writingIf you're implying that the older games didn't have any bad writing, I dunno what to tell you. OG VII is better written than the Remake series, but it's not flawless, and "golden age" Square was never a bastion of flawless writing. Their games have generally gotten worse writing wise, but honestly it's like going from a 5/10 to a 4/10. Not really that much worse and it wasn't that great to begin with.
>>540020789I think Tetsuya Nomura just wants time off because he's been working nonstop for 30 years30 years straight, there has been a game released every single year with his name on itHe's not a battered house wife, he's just fucking tired, anyone would behttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Nomura
>>540019931>his wedding ringToriyama is indeed a trad gigabased chad creator. XIII trilogy focuses heavily on family relationships and the celebration of family values. Whole CS1 is known for this.
>>540019931B-but w-what about Lightning...?
>>540020137>You would need to completely rewrite the gameThis. This is what I want.
>>540021576And this is why we play Final Fantasy.>>540021730Lightning is a fictional character. She represents ideals, concepts. She's not a real woman, though she embodies the spirit of the divine feminine. Toriyama has a real wife and child to go home to. He doesn't worship Lightning in his closet, like I do. LOL!
>Lightning is a fictional characterchat is this real
>>540022491There are many real life fragrant heroines out there who can carry her legacy.
>>540019218>marysue creator vs. gary stu creatorGrim.
>>540023789>Mary Sue creatorBut we aren't talking about Sakaguchi
>>540023915>deflectingPathetic.
>>540025587Lightning is not a Mary Sue, we've been over this 100 times alreadyPlay the game and find out. Aki Ross, however.....jeez.
>>540025587You struck a nerve, the fatherless answered to the accusation of deflection by... deflecting even more?Yeah that guy is retarded.
Both Lightning and Aki are not a Mary Sue characters, but they were marketed too aggressively.Clive is the closest to Mary Sue archetype.
>>540026080>more deflectingYAWN
>>540026175What I said is not a deflection.
>>540026080Aki Ross is definitely a Mary Sue. Magic powers, perfect doctor, scientist, never incorrect, the only protagonist in the film, the only person in the movie who had any attention paid to them. She's loved by everyone just for existing. 75% of the scenes in the movie are just her standing around in the center of the frame.
>check /ffg/>he's shitposting about Spirits Within again, of all thingsI'm still confused about this and how it relates to his more usual Yoshida shitposting. Then again, it truly is like he thinks that any "defense" of anything Final Fantasy that is not himself doing his usual defense of XIII and VIIR (and Toriyama) is all some weird Yoshida defense, which I can't wrap my mind around. It blows my mind that shitposters can think the way that he does. At least he has taken a bit of his mask off ever since I pointed out that he only grifted to XIII (as a disguise) because Toriyama, and that his true cult allegiance lies with VIIR. That was really just a shot in the dark that I guess at via observing his behavior, but it seems to have been right on the money. >>540000793>Why didn't he answer you?I think we all know the answer to that question. He didn't even do his trademark pussy ass bitch fake reply either. That's how you know it really struck a nerve.
>>540026687>never incorrectI don't remember that flick that much, so if this real, then yes, she may be a Mary Sue.
>>540026997Mad
>>540027109"Baffled" is a much more appropriate word.
>>540027109Do not feed off-topic twitter-tier whining posts. There is a special button that exists for such a posts.
>>540027210>what would you think if someone said they liked Yoshida?If I cared enough to have a conversation with that person, I'd ask them "why do you like Yoshida?"
>>540020568>>540021158>I wonder why Yoshida is the only person who is abused by working on Final Fantasy, everyone else seems to love doing it no matter what critics sayI like how honest Yoshida is, but his honesty is not good for his reputation online due to the existence of shitposting schizos who were, at some point, somehow, completely mindbroken by him. They ridicule truth and relish in lies. But besides that, at least Nomura seems to also be "abused" by working on Final Fantasy. I'd wager most long-term devs at SE are "abused" by their work, they just might not say anything. Japanese work culture is a bitch, after all. Yoshida seems to like the "abuse" though. He's never said "I want to stop working on XIV", and I think he's even said something about how it's his lifelong project. Nomura, on the other hand, seems to be totally over it, but I'm going purely on this one screenshot, because I'm not a mindbroken schizo who is obsessed with knowing about everything Nomura says. No one posts Nomura interviews to /ffg/, they only post Yoshida interviews. The last time someone posted a Nomura interview, it was about Sephiroth's Masamune having an organic quality to it, and the VIIRgin tried to make sure no one talked about it instead of actually examining what it could mean with regards to Remake like I did.
>reads one single joke about Yoshida being a battered house wifeAh, another crash out I see
all that over yoshida getting made fun of again.
>>540028805>>540028975Please forgive me. I had the audacity to post about Final Fantasy in response to a post about Final Fantasy, in the Final Fantasy General. I should have known better. We don't do that here.
>>538774410Ope
I saw that you were correct but I'm gonna keep posting passive aggressively in hopes you don't post again.
>>540027637>pussy ass bitchThat Yoshifag is really, really fucking angry about Yoshida being made fun of onlineNot sure why
Naoki Yoshida: Not a genius, but a businessman who just wants to make money.
>>540019931>>540020112I think these posts of mine are going to age very, very well.
I would like to remind the samefagging (fatherless) shitposter who is responsible for ruining /ffg/ that there is a line between:>ardently defending Yoshida the same way you defend XIII and VIIRand>...simply *not* shitpostingYou seem to think, for some reason, that everything which isn't a blatant shitpost about Yoshida is the same "defense" that you run for XIII, VIIR, Toriyama, Nomura, Kitase, and Lightning, etc. It's not like that, little guy. Sometimes people just want to post about Final Fantasy in the Final Fantasy General. Most of the posts in any given thread are about Yoshida, because you made it that way. Therefore, most replies that are actually about Final Fantasy are in some way about Yoshida. My post boils down to "I'm sure all SE devs are "abused" by their work to some degree" and you thought it was a Yoshida defense.
>>540030032>he's posted three times angrily>over 3000 characters....So what happened to you? What's got you acting this way?
>>540005637Really? XIII-2 and 3 both used the same assets in a lot of ways so I'd be surprised if they made those three games and THEN deleted absolutely everything.Then again, that was during SE's "oops all bad decisions" era (which we're still waiting for them to move on from)
>>540030337>What's got you acting this way?What's got me replying to posts in the Final Fantasy General, talking about Final Fantasy? Well...I think the issue you're having right now is that I'm not shitposting about Final Fantasy. That would be a more appropriate question for you to ask me. "Why aren't you shitposting about Final Fantasy like I do for 18 hours per day?" If you want to ask me that question, which is what you mean to ask me, then I will happily answer it.
>>540029731Simply stating this undeniable truth, one that Yoshida has doubled down on just in the last week, can cause a tremendous amount of emotional anguish across the XIV community.Please, before you make negative (true or untrue) remarks about Yoshida, XIV, or XVI, I want you to remember that Naoki Yoshida is a human being.
>>540028975Good luck this afternoon.
>>540029731If you think this is a negative, this is most likely because you're misinterpreting the interview.
>>540029731Naoki Yoshida: Not a businessman.
Seems like Rebirth is still a masterpiece
>>540038938>"one thing that we found recently is that as graphics get better and better, and as characters become more realistic and more photo-real, is that the combination of that realism with the very unreal sense of turn-based commands doesn't really fit together.">"I personally would say that, if you're going to create something like that, maybe have the graphics fit that system better by maybe going towards a more pixel-graphic type of direction"Why is he so unbelievably fucking retarded?
>>540039142Thank you so much for saying this
>photo-real visuals with Command based gameplayWho could have imagined that people want this?
>>540038938Final Fantasy?
>540047013No
>>539714849Catalog lurker, who is this in the OP?
>>540057670looks like White Mage Krile, Final Fantasy V
>page 10Yoshida killed both Final Fantasy and /ffg/, unfortunately.
>>539993547Pink bush, shaved into a lightning bolt.
Final Fantasy XIII trilogy is worth revisitingFinal Fantasy XV is worth revisitingFNC is worth revisiting
>the schizo necro bumps the dead as fuck thread with a shitpost so that he can keep his safespace hugbox aliveJust let the thread die. You're the only person who wants it to be alive and all you do is shitpost. You made everyone else who wanted to talk about Final Fantasy leave.
>>540071865Hot
>>540072583Shitposters hate him for discovering how to save /ffg/ with this one weird trick
>>540039142True. And you won't find many that disagree
>>540072880I wanna lick her pits
>>540072457Innumerable such cases
>>540073080So you prefer Ubisoft games?Most of us Final Fantasy fans do not...I think that's why that low budget spinoff Redditbirth sold 2x less than every mainline FF.
>>540074012You're very cute
>Rebirth is good>Ubisoft! REDDIT! Sales >:)
https://x.com/FFVII_EC_EN/status/1970186336196755703Almost wish I could go to Commiefornia for this.
>>540079495Why make a new cut out of EC Tifa when you can literally just use the pre-rendered remake Tifa there? Seems like wasted effort.
>>540089763EC Tifa is more attractive than Rebirth Tifa (Rebirth Tifa is less attractive than Remake Tifa somehow)
What do Lightning feet smell like?
>>540090486Well considering the games shes stuck in probably like shit.
>>540090254Did the pre-rendered models even change between Remake and Rebirth? Or are we talking ingame models because I know the hair was made thinner in Rebirth.
>>540091703She's not stuck in XVI though
>>540092130You're right. I forgot it's actually even worse. She's stuck in the FNC so they probably smell like pig shit.
>>540091831I don't know, I'm just talking about how Rebirth Tifa is a significant downgrade in game from Remake Tifa. Pic is both models inside of Rebith.
>>540079495/ourguy/ CHADximillian is so based.
>>540093445I liked Remake Tifa, but I like Rebirth Tifa even more.
>>540096981Yeah, not me. Remake Tifa wins by a long shot.
>>540097062Not even close.
>>540097139>"Tifa is just boobs"Okay, if that's what you think.
>>540098013>Tifa is just her eye texture
>>539795378That's because the design is based on Jill, you think Jill is going to walk around with her tits hanging out?>>539812013Right, I love the game but not by that much.
>>540098132What do you love about the game?
>>540098117he got real silent after this one.
>>540100023The characters and the Eikon battles. The gameplay was fun but the Eikon battles is what made it great
>>540104276yeah the Eikons were cool.
>download EC, put it on lowest setting>can't install update due to 13.2 GB worth of data not on the phone>steam windows 10 support shuts down next month>learned it's been two years since.geniuely I think SE needs to port over The First Soldier.
>>540107513Pretty sure you will still be able to use Steam on Windows 10 even if they don't officially support it
>>539996757>Three times in the past month someone asked "what was jimbo wrong about?" and not a single member of the 100 man council even tried to answer it.Still the case.>>540107513I'm still surprised FS wasn't on PC in the first place. Has any mobile game had an EoS before coming back again later on PC? Or has EoS always meant dead and gone for good?Your English is terrible, by the way.
>>540128065>Has any mobile game had an EoS before coming back again later on PC?There have been mobile games that have EoS'd and then come back later, but I'm not aware of any that have EoS'd and then come back - with a port to PC. It is truly baffling how SE released a battle royale for mobile of all things and without a PC port.
>>540100023It's like a nier game but with FF flavor. Not quite as meta tho.
>>540074984>doesn't counter filler, bad writing, or bad AI Hee hee.
>>540074984This, but XVI.
>>540072178Worth revisiting to fix them and finally make them not crap.
>>540027109Yeah we can see you are, considering the string of shitposts here>>540028975>>540028805>540029818>540029731>540029417>540030337>540030691>540039142
>>540133473Sorry, made a mistake, I meant >>540029818>>540029731>>540029417>>540030337>>540030691>>540039142Getting used to this website but this shouldn't happen again
Why is Redditbirth so bad anyway?
>ff15+all dlc for $10worth it?
>>540147469No
>>540147469Even if they paid you $30 an hour to play it would not be worth it.
>>540147469iirc, it still has Denuvo because back then Denuvo was a 1 time payment not a subscription plan, so if you want to play XV for PC at any point, you will need to buy it
XVI is still shit. Wow.
>>540158753*7R
>VIIR fans under attack againWill they ever be safe?
/ffg/bros... where is final fantasy...?
>>540165475What FF game released in 2024?
>>540165475FF games were there last year but ToTK won
>>540165542>...
>>540165475>MonHun Wilds>"excellence award"lol
>>540165475OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO OH NO
>>540165475Like a dragon pirate lmao
