Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #8655 - Skin Tones Edition==NEWS==>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition TrailerEN: https://youtu.be/1nIhfo2X0oIJP: https://youtu.be/BVoDsexw0NM>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - The Animationhttps://youtu.be/5ocBa8jTXUA>TailsTube #13 - Pit Crewhttps://youtu.be/GiYfo0Wy2NA>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk #8 | Silver & Blazehttps://youtu.be/CNZgW0480go>Mobile card game Sonic Blitzhttps://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay>Paramount Developing Movie Spinoffshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 22 October 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - December 2025Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zonehttps://tails.kicks-ass.net/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OCs:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixels:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>539685768
Some images have been used too many times in OP
>>539723272Silver needs a new 3D model
I love Shadria...
I don’t see it
If Sonic Team made the perfect Sonic game nothing would change for most of you because you don't play the games.
Boys! ^-^
>>539723272Sonic: 1488 Race Wars
Decemeber /sthg/ will get their second 911First one was when they were confirmed for Forces
>>539723460Well I doReceding hairline is one thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3YdgkFtSOI
>>539723549How cute <3
Since we were talking about Superstars >finally unvaulted after over 20 years >gets his own comics and animations >he went back to being forgotten What went wrong?
Douge
>>539723713There wasn't as much interest as everyone had anticipated
>>539723416Just make his quills rest to make his head smaller, feels like that's the big deal to why westerns see him as young
How do we save your favorite character
>>539723713He wasn't playable in what was supposed to be his grand return
>>539723764If chili sauce won't stain Sonic's gloves, there's no way coffee would stain Shadow's.
...what?
>>539723713Ian blew it with his retarded headcannon (and tantrums) againLike he always does
What's the most unpopular Sonic game that you actually enjoy?
>>539723713He's carried strictly by the novelty of being a Glup Shitto. In his actual execution in Superstars, he's just another disposable Eggman goon like Metal or Infinite. You could replace him entirely with Metal and nothing changes in the story since his "relationship" with Trip is so phoned in that you could cut it and nobody would miss it
>>539723713Superstars being an uninteresting game.
>>539723416Shiruba looking cool Still think this CGI is where he looked the best. Love those 06 long models
>>539723708I wish Kit was brought over to the games. He's not even in mobile ffs
Post something weirdCrazySurprise me
>>539720971What the fuck is that cringe ass IQ test? It's gotta add at least 40 pts to the real score lol.
>>539723920He's already saved lmao. There's never been a better time to be a Shadowfag except maybe during the early 2000s.
https://youtu.be/Z5zxuVA85LE>It's shitYup, knew it.
Here's a Tang mention.Tang.
>>539724090Shadow the Hedgehog
Are we in Renaissance Era of Sonic?
>>539723920My fave is a mainstay at this point but he needs something cool to do in the next game
>>539724071what did you do anon?
Rouge owes me sex.
>>539724485No. We're still in the nostalgia pandering meta era.
>>539724164True :cIf it's true that Whisper and Tangle are getting in CrossWorlds and they'll keep the game updated, I feel that will be his best if not only chance. I doubt it's going to happen though
>>539724195
NINTENDO GOT ARROGANT
Do I beat my dik for the 3rd time today?
>>539724284>the early 2000sSA2, Battle and Heroes?Battle and Heroes contradicted each other, Battle said Shadow survived with his memories, but Heroes had Shadow not care if he was the real one or not and left the possibility that Shadow was still dead open.
Why is the master emerald suddenly in egypt in SA2?
>>539724104It's sad because it actually does quite a number on the L O R E. >retcons Chaos from being the dragon of prophecy in S3&K >retcons Super Tails and Super Knuckles >introduced Trip who is now Amy's other best friend >introduced the SunGazer clan as another set of guardians of the Chaos Emeralds >introduced Metal Tails, Metal Amy, Metal Trip and Metal NiGHTS
>>539724618Tails…
>>539723713he was wasted in superstars and got carried by shipping he came back with this themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBBgb3UEAKUdogshit right? meanwhilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeffSsO_U7ci know people that are fang fans because of that gameat least he got an animation , new merch Other characters don't even get that
>>539724686What happened now?
I have something to say
>>539723920An FPS game.
Everyone shortens the noses of female hedgehogs in fanart, but Amy is the only female hedgehog who actually shows up in the games. Amy had a long nose in the classic eera and unlike Tails's snout that never got retconned in later games. If you play as a female hedgehog in Forces, you still have an elongated nose even though the character models are distinct for both genders.
>>539723713Fantasy Zone is still dead>we will never see Nack's father>we will never see Nack's schizo counterpart from another dimension >we will never see him take on who killed his father
>>539723920>LanolinI don't think she's very hard to save. Just keep her away from Tangle and Whisper for a bit and give her a more in-depth backstory. Also next time they give her an arc it should still let her develop but have a lesson with a little more nuance and depth than just "Not trusting friends absolutely = Bad!". Maybe should've focused more on, I dunno, the communication issues where the team doesn't talk to each other at all? For as bad as the Duoshit was they could have salvaged her portion in it pretty easily if they tried and weren't obsessed with being in twitter's good graces.
>>539724719Rouge stole the Master Emeralds from the shrine and Knuckles chased her all the way towards the desert area of Angel Island
>>539724730>retcons Super Tails and Super KnucklesThat was Sonic Heroes
>>539724823Sonic Channel art confirms that Amy straightens her quills like hair. She could have gotten surgery to reduce her nose so she could look cuter.
>>539724719Rouge stole it and brought it there before Knuckles caught up, as explained in the game.
>>539724540whoa... so...... deep.............
>>539724485No, we're in the same rut as Dragon Ball fans, just without a franchise-stalling lawsuit
>>539724823You know that jaw shaving surgery some women get? Amy did that for her nose and her back spines.
>>539724920Superstars takes place before Heroes in the timeline
>>539724918It's not said to be a part of Angel Island, and it doesn't seem to be from the map either. You are right about the rest though
>>539724920Superstars double retconned it no thanks to Iizuka
Redditbob won
>>539724920>>539725121Sonic Heroes is without a doubt the most influential game in the franchise. Even in 2025 with Crossworlds we still feel its impact
Has Knuckles ever managed to stop the Master Emerald from being taken?I don't mean him getting it back, I mean him stopping it from being taken in the first place.I guess there's Fang, but Fang is a joke, he was supposed to be shorter than Tails and his only power was his spring tail.
>>539724341seethe harder rushschizo
>>539724145Same
https://files.catbox.moe/jqxkk3.mp4
>>539725221PUT SHADOW IN THE BURGER MOBILE
>>539725373Knock Knock
>>539723713Really thought they'd do an episode fang dlc for superstarsI'm surprised there aren't any classic characters in crossworlds
>Super "Powers"Holy SNOOZE
... Are the Prime counterparts of Knuckles also the last Echidna? Their worlds are completely different.
>>539725514Sega is hellbent on keeping all classic characters away from modernbut classic sonic can show up whenever
Is Sonic a hobo-sexual?https://youtu.be/2KOhC5UczsU?si=sYr-t6nQurimsg59&t=431
Kuwabara kuwabara
>>539725292Not your epic boogeymanImagine remaking an already decent game when you can just get someone to de/recompile Rush to PC instead without all the extra unneeded modern slop like Red Rings.
>>539725650Renegade Knux's backstory shows him being Knuckles in the past, it just doesn't elaborate on why he's not at Angel Island or concerned with the Master Emerald, it only shows him and Rouge being the first line of defence against the Eggmen, because, allegedly, Sonic is the one and only thing standing between Eggman and world domination.
Is the sound mixing in the demo of or something?
>>539725292>you-you(re Schizo about me!Retard it literally the same fucking thing but louder, while the xwitter account is having a melty, it's kinda shit
>>539723920It's over, chief.
>>539723920Fire Ian.
Sonic character for this feel?
>>539724164do you have more cute, and hopefully happy, kit pictures that aren't from just this artist?
>>539725284He successfully protected it from Mecha Sonic and Heavy King
>>539723920Please don't kill him.
>>539726502Not him but that's probably the biggest Kit fanartist. I do have a few from other artists though
>>539726809These characters should be grouped, ideally into Heroes Teams, that was the point of this X-Men cover goddammit
Kitails
I'm getting filtered by Sky Canyon..... and my pride isn't letting me switch out Sonic.>>539726502By "Heremob"
>>539726805Oh believe me, I know. I just wanted more to my collection that wasn't entirely made by that japanese artist, that's all
>>539723713The actual answer is that Superstars came out when most of the Classic Sonic fans already dropped the franchise or moved on. Had the game released in the late 2000s or somewhere in the 2010s(Preferably around 2011 to 2016), it would be seen as one of the greatest Sonic games of all time and true return to form for the blue hedgehog after those "icky Modern Sonic games".
>>539723920>KnucklesIt can't be done. I've given up hope.
>>539723920we don't.
Shadussy
>>539727206>filtered by Sky Canyontold you so that level needs a lot of cooldown and tricks to even get to the goaland then be careful with the boss unless you want to do that again
>>539723272If it isn't the 4th wheel
>>539727206I don't like Sky Canyon either. I was disappointed by Advance 2 in general unfortunately. The bosses are also annoying, especially that oneThe level design just feels off for some reason. I like Advance and I remember loving Advance 3 forever ago, I hope I'm not disappointed when I eventually replay Advance 3>>539727215She's one of my favorite fanartists so that's not a problem at all for me that she's done so much, but yeah it would be cool to see more
One way Dream is legitimately the worst song in the franchise.It sounds like it was sung by a YouTuber and not a professional
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPLn0Qj8ZkI
>>539727424Has tamers gone back to SU yet?
>>539726498the d6 but if they were actually deadly
>>539727515thank you for your service, kit is cute
>SuperstarsDoesn't this game prove that Sonic Team is willing to mix Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic in the same title?
>>539727536It was literally sung by a YouTuber musician, there's no way you randomly guessed that lol>the worst song in the franchiseWorse than the CrossWorlds opening song?>>539727647Yupppp ^-^
Yar har, feedle dee dee.Artist: why_z3033
>>539727263>most of the Classic Sonic fans already dropped the franchise or moved onShit that never happened
>>539726654Sky Sanctuary isn't on Angel Island, as shown by the whole island tilting back and forth while it's there.You are right about Heavy King though, Knuckles even thought back to Eggman taking it in S3&K and ensured Heavy King couldn't just do that again.
SHE LOST HER ASS, TOO
haven't played frontiers so i only have limited reference to how she was written therebut i'm torn on sage being eggman's haughty little princess and her becoming more curious about the world outside the empire and developing as something more humanthe former is an entertaining dynamic in and of itself, sure, but her not going the latter direction feels like a waste, as if she wanted to stay as shallow as any other AI
>>539727651which game, crossworlds?
They both look like boy kissers.
Kit! Yay!
>>539727917Anon, what happened in round 3? What's going on champ?
>>539727919Why can't she do both?
Tangle sex
"Mumidraws" is one of my favorites, he con go between Cute to Moody and I love it.Back to Advance 2......
>>539728135i mean i can absolutely see it happeningbut her building bonds with the outside world might conflict with the directive of conquering it
>>539728012They should kiss each other
>>539728259They must first scream at each other to assert who is the dominant foxboy.
>TailspedosGoodbye
^-^
Sonic but David Lynch
>>539718646BREAKING DISCOVERY: UPON CLOSER INSPECTION, SONIC RACING: CROSSWORLDS DOES NOT USE THE (FINAL?) DREAMCAST VERSION OF SONIC ADVENTURE IN THE CREDITS.THIS IS AN UNKNOWN SCREENSHOT THAT RESEMBLES THE DREAMCAST VERSION BUT TEXTURES DON'T LINE UP AND AND THE ANGLE/TIMING SEEMS OFF.PROTO? MOD? EMULATION? LEAK? WTF!
>>539728234If anything, that'd strengthen it, loving the world the way it is and knowing Eggman seeks to improve it even further once it is under his rule.
I should stop being lazy and finish my own Kit drawing from like a month ago why do I always waste so much time(don't expect it to be particularly good lol)>>539728602Didn't the Tails screenshot in Frontiers also have a weird angle or something off with the textures?
>>539727816You say that but it's very obvious that many Classic Sonic fans that used to rule this community(and franchise) with a iron fist are outright gone now. Not a single soul is shitting on Shadow Gens for being "Ow the edge" or Frontiers for "being too serious".
The Deadly Six are confirmed 仲間を.
>>539728790People absolutely shat on Frontiers' story
>>539728851Deadly Sex
Sonic and Surge should hold hands
We're all going to laugh when we see Silver LEGO figure
>>539728602This I mean. From FrontiersI remember when the game came out some were speculating that the screenshot was from an upcoming rerelease or something, or that they used mods. I don't remember what was different though
>>539728602Looks like either an early dev build of the gamecube version back when it was a more straightforward dreamcast port, or a new rerelease/remaster is in development...>>539728693I think that one was taken from a PC version.
>>539728640>Eggman seeks to improve it even further once it is under his rule.this is where the conflict would kick inwe've all seen CD's bad futures and the environmental desolation in forces - if sage still supports eggy's actions at that point, she'd be locked out of forming human emotions such as empathy and worry, at least for anyone but him
>>539728883Yes. But obviously not in the "Sonic shouldn't have a story" or "What happened to Sonic being a goofy hedgehog" way of complaining.
>>539727263>Be gen x >Cry and scream for more than a decade about muh green eyes and shit>Sega finally complies to their dogshit tastes>They fuck off right after that, like the disgusting parasites they areI wish nothing but suffering to these assholes
>>539729216Most classicfags weren't against Sonic having a narrative, they just didn't want it taking precedence over the gameplay. They also just felt the 2000s stories sucked in general. The crowd asking for Sonic to not have a story at all were mostly journos
spreading cream cuteness
>>539729623This is a blue board anon
sonic is for blaze
>>539729461They would have loved Sonic Advance if that were the case. Be real, they didn't care about gameplay that much, they cared more about superficial things like eye color, and they were satisfied for a good while when they got Generations, despite it not having accurate physics at all.
>>539729854i like the bigger hands in this drawingmakes it really look like ohshima's work
>>53972985480% of sonaze art
>>539729479Cute :)
>>539724730Chaos being the dragon from the S3 manual was also a retcon. The "dragon" was Eggman, who came out of an (death)egg, steals jewels, and becomes a fire-breathing monster at the end of the game.After the dragon concept got dropped, it was supposed to be an allegorical representation of Eggman.
>>539728602I hope we get a proper rerelease of the Adventure games. This would be a good time while we wait for whatever Heroes-focused project they work on next.
>>539730159>>539729854Fuck off.
>>539727979Sorry I came here assuming you guys would be talking about that but yes, Crossworlds.
>>539728602Maybe its the engine? The same shit happened with one tailstube and gens
>>539730632What do you mean it's the engineExplain
>>539730006They did like the first Advance, Advance 2 and 3 are the more contentious ones. And the physics stuff was mostly in relation to 3D games, which also suffered from heavily automated level design
>>539729854and males are based for this. maybe hit the gym you can get a body like that, hm?
>539730810>i am a pathetic OOC offmodel consoomer that don't care about the characters just generic porn sonazetard..?
>>539730682Most likely he's saying it was rendered on a different engine
>>539730682maybe its how it looks on HE2 lighting unless its from a version pre release
nobody wants you here
>539730898or you can deflect and keep being 75% twinkies, no bother to me.
>>539727651>>539730529They put Classic in Modern but they don't put Modern in Classic, unless it's to give Classic Sonic a Shadow onesie for some reason.>>539730754>They did like the first AdvanceNot really, most drew the line at muh 3&K and muh STK, Advance was either ignored or hated.>the physics stuff was mostly in relation to 3D gamesNo, it was about the 2D ones as well. I won't say it was entirely baseless given Sonic Genesis actually existed, but they took it to an extreme, until Generations gave them their black eyes and they shut up.>which also suffered from heavily automated level designThis is also a meme complaint that never amounted to much. I would love to see these people get S ranks in Unleashed first try or something.
the fact that japanese silver doesn't sound particularly childlike makes me sad. We really are fucked in the west. His entire character has been chewed up and spit out because it says "Young" in his character bio.
Sonic fans suck at playing video games.
Cream's victory jingle proves the brain never forgets music associated with good memories.
>>539731006But neither Sonic Adventure nor Sonic Generations use Hedgehog Engine 2
>>539728012>>539728259>>539728380Can boys stop kissing each other
>>539731097Well, it makes sense since Modern is supposed to occur after Classic, so classic can't REALLY reference Modern since...it hasn't happened yet.
The Advance series games were all very different from one another anyway, that's to say nothing of how different they were from Classic Sonic.
>Sonic and Blaze's rival dialogueThe Sonaze agenda is still going strong. Also what's up with Charmy?
>>539729096You're right. Here's a comparison with the DC, GC, and PC releases. The Frontiers screenshot most aligns with last, but Tails's tails are positioned similarly to the DC original.It could be nothing and they're just custom screenshots for some reason, or maybe they really are cooking up a restoration...
>>539731319Not even as a side bonus thing? Like, you know, the Shadow onesie they made a weird exception for. It would be cool to see a Classic Cream or Classic Blaze or something, there is no real reason why that can't be a thing. Same goes for something like Modern Trip or Modern Mighty.>>539731425The classic games are also very different from one another. Sonic Advance is similar to Sonic 2.
NOOOOOO STOP DRAWING SONIC GIRLS WITH BIG ASSES AND TITTIES
>>539731181>An Empty Blitz Beyond His World
>>539731319>>539731598This is why Classic should be its own universe, so crossovers can be more accessible.
>>539728380More boy kissing!
>>539731468Hopefully something good comes out of this>>539731719True, if they have to be two separate brands the alternate universe approach makes the most sense. But Forces handled it so badly everyone hates it and wants to hear none of it
>>539731242i don't know but the crossworld one is not even afternoom but day the sky is not even purple I think a compilation its comming
(Man, memes aside, I forgot how much better the Dreamcast version looks in general.)>>539728602It's like the Dreamcast version but brighter, with blue skybox and DX windows..>>539729096>>539731468.. yet the lighting on Tails is closest to the middle.What the hell is going on with Sonic Adventure?
Well that's the thing...Classic Cream probably doesn't even exists, chronologically. But there are definitely Classic references in Modern Sonic. Just not enough, really.
>>539732008I didn't even notice the sky...I hope you're right
>>539732078meant to reply to>>539731598
>>539732078>Classic Cream probably doesn't even exists, chronologicallyThe Classic characters are the same ages. Sonic has always been 15 since 1998. Or at least that was the case before they decided to hide the agesEither way "Classic characters look different because they're younger" is nonsense because Cream is younger and doesn't look like that
>>539732078If we go by the theory of Classic being at least 4 years before Modern...
>>539731107His english voice and dub changes amplified 2006's problems; those issues are still there regardless of language and did too much damage to have made a difference.
>FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION Ian can cope all he wants He lostClassic after gens is an AU at this point
>>539732392Yeah I thought about this. She either doesn't exist or is literally a baby.
You guys still don't get it. The age number, the actual birth age, and the physical appearance are not linked.Classic Sonic is younger than modern Sonic. Even with ages removed they are teenagers. Even if the characters clearly recognize the physical changes, it's more like family guy characters recognizing that they looked different in season 1. Years can pass in-universe and the characters will still be the same age.
>>539723920By continuing to make fan content for them that does them actual justice as opposed to what we got by Sega themselves.
>>539732614I want to agree with you but almost everyone wants it to be the past even though that creates problems
>>539732771they want to add even more filler when we could have 2 cakes with modern and classic classic just added fang back with trip and lore
>>539732693Ok so as I said there should be nothing stopping us from getting Classic Cream.
>>539732771>>539732614That's cause Gens tells us Classic Sonic is past Modern Sonic from the past. Though they say different dimension in different material, that isn't really contradictory. By bringing Classic Sonic into the future they open a new timeline that doesn't originally exist. Changing the past doesn't change the future. It's for this reason. So, this Sonic actually is from an alternate timeline, or an alternate dimension. It's not contradictory, and it doesn't change the fact that Classic Sonic is a younger version of Sonic.
>classic BlazeClassic only exists because Shadow and Silver, this is the exact opposite solution. Shadow and Silver need their own gritty subseries like Mega Man X.
>>539724080what headcannon specifically?
>>539732869Or we could just have Sonic and make Classic Sonic games and Modern Sonic games as we like without being afraid of crossing over lore between them.
>>539733040Classic exists because people who outgrew the series spent an entire decade crying that Sonic didn't have black eyes anymore and wasn't having sex with Sally.
>>539732918Yes. She would still be a little girl but just "younger" than she is now in a vague sense that wouldn't make sense if you tried to apply real standards.
Is Silver like Sonic '99?
>>539733050Hooligans
>>539733154Enough with the fucking persecution complex. Shadow and Silver are shitty Mary Sues, some people don't like the tone change, get over it.
>>539733231ye he miguel
I'm starting to warm up to Zavok.
>>539733345They were complaining about how the series was ruined because Sonic was saying "Eggman" instead of "Robotnik" regardless of Shadow or Silver. They were complaining about the eye color, or the American continuity being dropped, long before Shadow was introduced.
What the fuck, Storm is simping for Amy?
>>539733345>muh mary suesSONIC is a "mary sue".
>>539732771>>539732869I think the fanbase likes the idea of having a sort of "kid Sonic" and wants to explore Modern Sonic's pre adventure past, but using Classic Sonic in this way is a point of contention. This is further exacerbated by ST still seeing Classic as a spinoff series rather than part of the mainline(Modern) series.
>>539733628Its an Ian thing at this point He did the same with Bark That shit is pathetic an someone need to stop these faggot and his headcanons
The Classic Era exists to pander to people who do not like the modern era. As such, the lore implications of the Classi cEra are almost as devastating as the lore implications of Prime being canon. They simply make no sense.The characters in the modern era openly recognize the physical differences between the past and now. If you want to take this 100% seriously, at some point in time everyone's faces and bodies just morphed into the modern era. Not to mention that logically, Shadow's time on the ARK was during the classic era. But it's in the "modern past" so it's just different. The infant Eggman (who was likely a baby at the time of Maria's death or later) was born with irises that he would not retain into adulthood and then regained again because Eggman is too closely tied to modern era characters.In Pokemon terms, this is like how Mina is canonically 14 in Gen 1 (Thanks to Lets go) but also between the ages of 11 and 19 in Gen 7 (Which is set 13 years later at a minimum). This makes no sense. But her physical appearance is the same in order to keep her recognizable. Wally is also identical between Gen 3 and Gen 7 even though Gen 3 takes place at the same time as Gen 1. The characters iconography overrides any continuity.
>>539725514>Really thought they'd do an episode fang dlc for superstarsthat would have been cool but I wonder how that would have worked story-wise.>I'm surprised there aren't any classic characters in crossworldsthe fact that there's is a northstar island map in the game yet Fang and Trip aren't gonna be playable feels like such a slap in the face.
>>539729854I draw Blaze with large hips and little to no chest. If I wanted to draw big boobs I'd draw Rouge.
not reading that
>>539733681Maybe they should make a Baby Movienic game to satisfy that audience if that's true>>539733754It's so stupid. Classic being an AU makes a lot more sense and allows it more freedom to explore and evolve in its own direction
Rouge is a whore.
>>539733952>Baby characters on Extreme GearHmmm...
>>539733952SONIC DOESN'T DO LOGIC
>>539733665No Sonic is the main character, not some tryhard angsty edgelord faggot who needs a trauma pet to die for him to prop up his character
>>539734118stop
>>539733231Isn't Miguel more directly inspired to heroics by Parker-man compared to Silver?
Classic is notthe past
Songs to play when mom and dad are fightinghttps://youtu.be/3CR6kKsy_LA?si=AHnMbikBL6gLAPDLhttps://youtu.be/cEVxcJ4byN4?si=uDVONjCcZcULtJjohttps://youtu.be/yWbXFdPQr-I?si=MtNQDQLRIY2JdzjV
>>539734181If anything Shadow having a traumatic backstory is a weakness that proves he's not a mary sue. And Silver is also repeatedly called naive, which is another flaw. Sonic is THE "mary sue" of the series. Being the protagonist doesn't change that.
Silver is Miles
>539734378>Shadow having a traumatic backstory is a weakness that proves he's not a mary sue
Santiago should be the third member of Team Dimensions
>>539734247BUT TAILSTUBE CONFIRMED MY HEADCANON!!!!!
Iantube its legit dogshit and not canon
>>539733441>>539733231Spiderman 2099 is strong assertive and masculine, silver is.. Not that
>>539734462Meanwhile Sonic's weakness is uuhhhh he can't swim (except in Colors he can swim just fine there). You can't seriously call Shadow and Silver "mary sues" and pretend it doesn't apply to Sonic.
>>539724540Tanabatakino
I'm so autistic that I couldn't enjoy a Knuckles Mina porn comic because I kept thinking about how Knuckles super strength would make sex with her very uncomfortable from her perspective, especially with her frail and thin frame. I need Sonic porn that is fully in-character.
>>539723713Removed the idea of him having a gun and changing his title because of censorship. Plus, when people wanted the character to return, they meant be reintroduced in the Modern games so he can be another bad guy who isn't Eggman.
>>539734247Yeah I feel like ST especially sees Classic as its own thing, even back in Adventure days. SA1 was a new start.
>>539734247Listen to me very carefully. Peezuka said that no one reacted to Blaze in 06 because they all got amnesia.Shut.The fuck. Up.
>>539732040The lights on the missile also aren't broken anymore. On that note...>>539720117... All the Sonic Adventure 2 screenshots seem to be the GameCube version, except for the scene of Knuckles saving Rouge (in the Dreamcast version, his eyes are more narrowed, as shown in CrossWorlds).And if anyone is curious, I'm pretty sure the Sonic Heroes screenshots are the GameCube version, which iirc had the most developed shadows.
>>539734585sonic fans and not playing the fucking gamesname a better duo specially with women
>>539734726He didn't say that. I checked the actual interview. He was asked a generic question about the characters in the game, and he said that they end up getting amnesia, which is something that happens in the game at the end of the last story.
>>539734623Sonic has moments of weakness, he gets flustered and surprised, he acts like he knows it all and repeatedly reveals he has no idea what he's doing. The games legit never take a moment to point and laugh at Shadow. If Shadow trips and falls flat on his face on day, I will take back everything I said about him being a Gary Stu.
Iizuka is never wrong.The moon turned.There are two worldsSonic Prime is canonEveryone forgot BlazeIDW is also canonTangle and Whisper are iconic characters There are still two worlds
>>539734667>Implying Modern Fang wouldn't be working for EggmanBesides we already have a Modern Fang.
>>539728883That's not a trait of a classicfag. Frontiers' story simply sucked.>>539729461You clearly were too young to read old (and now dead and deleted) forums where classic fans would state Sonic was better when you just ran around and fought Eggman's robots and not have complex stories.
>Idw in the crossworlds creditsbros…
What is your favorite of the Sonic games that can run on Windows XP?
>>539734970yeah they are basically confirmed at this point december will be wild
>>539734786Rivals Silver is more masculine than 06 Silver who does nothing without asking Blaze first
>>539734884Play the games. Shadow couldn't handle the Super form at the end of his debut game and fell. He also gets defeated by Sonic multiple times. You also said the same thing about Silver even though he constantly gets mocked for the scene where he gets hit in the head in his debut game. Sonic has never had such a big humiliation moment.
>>539734896I'm not saying he wouldn't be working for Eggman. It's just that he'll be another villain. He also wouldn't work for Eggman all the time since Fang is greedy and self-centered.And Clutch sucks. He was basically some weird and poor attempt to recreate Mammoth Mogul and the Archie version of Breezie.
>>539735084is this really all you have to look forward to in life
>>539734857Don't lie to yourself. He was asked whether Blaze was from the future or another dimension. He said she's from another dimension first then came to the future. Then he says the reason no one remembered her was because they all got amnesia.Listening to this advanced retard makes you a sonic advanced retard.
>>539734970>>539735084I thought IDW didn't own their OCs? So why would them being in the credits indicate anything about the characters? Sega doesn't need to work with them or have permission for that. Not to mention the people who write and draw the comic are freelance, not employees.
>>539734890There logically have to be at least two worlds because Unleashed and Forces very noticeable take place on two different planets that are also completely different from the planet in Sonic 1 through Shadow 2005Forces was designed to take place on a different planet from Unleashed. Everything that says otherwise is headcanon or retcons>>539735178No, the question was very broad and brought up multiple issues, the last of which was why Silver and Blaze didn't recognize each other. At the end of the original game, everyone's memories is wiped, hence why Iizuka responded that "everyone had amnesia"
>>539724080>Instead of giving Fang a cool or fun story for the miniseries, Ian spent all the issues seething over breaking up the Hooligans.Why the fuck do they still hire this man? Just how cheap is he?
>>539735137>Shadow couldn't handle the Super form at the end of his debut game and fell.This was the game pointing and laughing at Shadow? Don't argue in bad faith. He's a drama queen through and through. He's a Gary Stu, simply put.>You also saidNo I didn't. You were talking to someone else, I haven't spoken of Silver at all today.
>>539734780This is all so strange. What's the purpose of the screenshots being a mix-and-match hybridization?>>539732008This has to be a WIP of..something, all right.Shuffle acknowledgement=Dreamcast compilation?
>>539723272TANGLE WHISPER AND SURGE SOON!
>>539735592>You were talking to someone elseAlright then.I don't know why you need the characters to be made into jokes, but whatever.
>>539735616This just means the promotional comic. Sorry, bub. Your non-canon characters are not getting in.
>>539735163you sound frustrated anon i don't really care about the idw characters at all and i gave up after i saw official japanese art with those two in them>>539735270this is good news. It means the two are glued to IDW and its a separate universe inside the sonic one.
>>539735461Pull up the clip then. This island chink has a whole section to himself in tv tropes for continuity errors.
>>539735616It's actually Tangle, Whisper and Belle, peep the motobug Tangle's riding.
>IDWfags gleefully ruining the characterization of countless beloved character just so they can play as shitty ocs that can't even talk
>>539735743>non-canonStill with this cope?
>>539735616>>539734970wait these are just logos you can put in your car becaue sponsorshipSTILL 2 characters without car or EG its a giveway its them
>>539735876Where does Iizuka call it canon here?
>>539735596I like Amy's fat cheeks
>>539735723desu I don't. But Shadow is a Gary Stu that's for sure. I mean when Sonic falls flat on his ass or gets his head stuck in the ground or something we don't think Sonic is less cool for that. Sonic isn't a joke, he just isn't a character who has to maintain that untouchable aura to be loved.
Whisper’s fat ass in a car
>>539732008>>539735596Would it really take them over 3 years to develop it though, assuming the Frontiers screenshot also came from this compilation?>>539735616I'm starting to believe it again now>>539735823https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBBQgTgGF3c&t=334sThe question is why Silver and Blaze don't recognize each other in Sonic Colors DS. The answer is because at the end of Silver's debut Blaze was separated from him and everyone got amnesia
>>539735270They don't own them. They're just giving credits to be nice.>>539735768>this is good news. It means the two are glued to IDW and its a separate universe inside the sonic one.Is this your new cope? Tangle, Whisper, and Surge are too damn popular for Sega to only have them in comics.
>>539735768>you sound frustrated anon>projecting
>>539735931Tangle and Whisper are NOT in the game for the last time.There is no actual leaks about them being in the game.Tangle doesn't even use her alleged designated car in the promotional comic.You're setting yourself up for disappointment.
>>539735876post any idw plot happening in the games, until then it's non canon
>>539736039That is not the clip. The clip I'm talking about is in reference to a question asked about Sonic 06,not Sonic Colors. It was a guy who asked the question, not a girl.
>>539735616Nothing ever happens idw cuck
>>539736059>Tangle, Whisper, and Surge are too damn popular for Sega to only have them in comics.You'll get them in mobileslop. They're not part of the game universe or its narrative. Sega doesn't care about OCs. If they cared about "popularity" the Freedom Fighters and Cosmo would've been in a game a long time ago.
>>539734890t. Iizuka
>>539736221Then it's up to you to source your claim. I think you're probably misremembering, because the answer Iizuka gave would be the same, and the question would be different. But if you're sure of what you're saying then go ahead and find this interview you're talking about. Until then the only one that verifiably exists is the one I linked
>>539736059>Surge japan is not even close to 50 anon let it go that trash character specially after she got redeemedAlso yeah i agree its why they are now in sonic forces , merch and soon maybe in crossworldsStill a different world from the games
>>539734462
The IDWfags don't actually care about the characters being in a game out of enjoyment, they just want to "own" the gamefags who say their characters are non-canon (which they are). It's all for gloating. Spite.
>>539736381Surge gets more Japanese fan art than Tangle and Whisper combined anon. >>539736298Your cope when they're all in mainline games will be legendary. I WILL be laughing.
>>539736381IDW characters in CrossWorlds wouldn't necessarily make them the same world. Or do you think Spongebob is the same world as the Sonic games?
>>539736542IDW characters are in the same canon as the games because>Tangle literally confirmed in Frontiers>Iizuka literally said the comics are canon to the games
>>539735743Is IDW featured in Frontiers' credits? There is a prequel comic for it.
>>539736464I'd disagree by pointing out I love the IDW characters but actually play the games and mod them in... However I'm also not one of the people who get involved in these stupid spat fiestas so who knows if that type plays the games?
>>539736519>fan art HOLY SHIT ANON I AM SO SOOORRY I DIDN'T KNOW!!....Holy fucking retard , Tangle and Whisper are on actual japanese soj art. Cry me a river about your dogshit waifu that is not even in the comics there.>>539736542That is my entire point , there is a difference between Rings and Crossworld portalsRings means a different univere INSIDE the sonic IP. Crosss is from outside.
>>539723713>What went wrong?We already have a morally dubious Sonic character with a gun and a bike, and he's exceptionally popular.There's nothing interesting about Fang in the modern Sonic era.
>>539736542It'd be funny as fuck if IDW characters are put in the game (they won't be btw) and they're rendered to being from another dimension (IDW dimension). They'd be officially locked out of the main game universe.>>539736645The only reason Tangle was even mentioned in the japanese version was because only the main story script was localized. The extra, optional stuff was directly translated.And Iizuka never called the comic canon.
>>539735137Shadow dying makes him more of a Mary Sue. Silver getting kicked is actually the worst example of Silver being a Mary Sue; he immediately gets back up and uses Chaos Control just so Shadow thinks he's cool.>>539735723>jokesI just think it's ridiculous we needed an entire subseries to get away from these fuckass author's pets and I'm just tired of them.
>>539736262You said that before Tangle and Whisper made it into speed battle. You said that before Surge made it into speed battle. You said that before Surge got her Valhalla skin. You said that before Tangle, Surge, and Kit all got official merch that sold extremely well.For "nothing happening" there sure are a lot of somethings. Even on random other gaming forums and sites I see people wishing for Surge in Crossworlds.
>>539736683But why would they be in the credits when they don't own the characters?
Every other fandom loves obscure spinoff characters but Sonic fans seethe at the idea of CURRENT comic characters making it into the games like they're afraid IDW characters means Uwuver will become canon
>>539736789>Tangle and Whisper are on actual japanese soj art.And yet the Japanese fan base cares more about Surge and Kit than Tangle and Whisper. Curious.
>>539735876This...literally says nothing about canonicity.
>>539735137They all got.............blown away
>>539736645>Nikki is canon because Sonic>Ovi Kintobor is canon because Eggman>Green Knuckles is canon because KnucklesThat's how fucking stupid you soundDifferent versions of the same characters can exist for different fucking universesJust look at the Prime charactersEven if the series was canon, characters like Nine or Dread are explicitly variants, and not the "main ones"If your oh so precious Tangle becomes canon (she won't), it won't be the crying lesbian; it will be a skinwalker
>>539736789>Rings means a different univere INSIDE the sonic IP. Crosss is from outside.Yes, and that can mean Tangle and Whisper can be from another dimension. That is, IF they're in, which they won't be.
>>539736804Shadow's infinitely less entertaining than Fang though and I'm tired of the series retreading Shadow's backstory over and over again.
Windfags are too silly to realize they'd win when the comic ocs get in the games because then they'd have Japanese versions of said characters.
>>539736805>The only reason Tangle was even mentioned in the japanese version was because only the main story script was localizeExplain why Sticks was excluded then and Tangle kept. >>539737002The schizophrenics no /sthg/ don't represent the sonic fanbase. Most sonic fans very much want certain IDW characters in the games.
>>539736847>I just think it's ridiculous we needed an entire subseries?Shadow is nowhere to be seen in Advance, Advance 2, Advance 3, Rush, Rush Adventure, Unleashed, Colors (Wii), Lost World.Shadow only has a very minor role in Heroes, Colors DS, Generations.Shadow is only heavily focused on in a handful of games, mostly right after his debut.This hatred for Shadow stealing the series or whatever makes no sense honestly. He just had his spinoff game and a focus in like two main series games.
>>539737145>Explain why Sticks was excluded then and Tangle kept.I literally just explained why, retard.
>>539737118Please don't kill yourself when IDW characters are added to mainline games. >>539737131The wind always loses.
>>539737145>Explain why Sticks was excluded then and Tangle kept.Nta but they literally just said why. Kishimoto rewrote the MAIN story. Tangle got through because she's a missable line
>>539736894And still nothing ever happens
>>539732614>>539732993Silver's future is also called another dimension.
It's gonna be a huge humiliation ritual for IDWtards when their OCs are confirmed NOT in the game. Gamebros/Windbros won't be light on them.
>>539736804Shadow misses the crucial element that makes Fang Fang, he's not a funny cartoon character who's open to comedy. Modern and Classic Sonic have difference senses of humor, and Shadow is completely divorced from what humor Modern Sonic has.
>>539737334A lot is happening actually.
>>539737423...in your coma-induced fever dreams.
>>539737385Either way, /sthg/ will be on fire and I'll be entertained
>>539736039>Would it really take them over 3 years to develop it though, assuming the Frontiers screenshot also came from this compilation?The old timeline leak with Sonic Rangers suggested that Sonic Adventure remakes were planned at one point, projected for 2025~2026 I think. Maybe this is what became of them?Sega probably doesn't have the Dreamcast build sourcecode anymore, hence why every rerelease so far has been a port of a port with diminishing returns. The new Amy screenshot >>539728602 looking a lot closer to the Dreamcast version than the older Tails screenshot >>539729096 may have been a slower process than you'd think since they don't want to retread the code/method used by fan-mods.
>>539737343Cute and Canon (to the games). >>539736519>Surge gets more Japanese fan art than Tangle and Whisper combined anon. Why does Japan love Surge so much?
>Iizuka literally said the comics are canon to the gamesHOLY SHIT TARDOS LEARN TO FUCKING READ >"bringing the comics and games a little bit closer together"means SYNERGY not that they are canon to the games
>>539737167Shadow got minor appearances because they benched everyone and floundered for years because of Shadow and Silver.
>>539737563Everyone loves Surge. She's the most popular IDW OC, even people that hate IDW like Surge.
>>539737563>Why does Japan love Surge so much?From personality to design Surge is a very Japan coded character.
>>539737693The same applied to Scourge from Archie. Even the japanese loved the character. But he never got a leap in the games.
>>539737698The original Surge wasBut fucking Evan Stanley cannot write for shit (or draw humans)
Shadow can transform into a Doom Dildo with Doom Butt Plugs for hands
>>539737352..because the future keep changing?i accept the concession
>>539737879I'm >>539732993and that is exactly what I said. Sonic being brought into the future from the past alters his timeline. The future literally keeps changing. So yes you may concede now.
Nobody likes Whisper unironically. It's either Tangle or Surge.
I just think the characters are cute
>>539737536Windfags are coping because they actively see the walls closing in on them. Tangle, Surge, Whisper, and Kit are getting closer and closer to being in main line games.Sega has been teasing them for ages. >Speed Battle with Surge getting a new skin the fastest out of the IDW characters>Tangle and Whisper being in official Sonic art (the fire fighter thing)>The success of the Tangle, Whisper, Surge, and Kit merch>Large fan demand for them both in the west and even Japan>In CrossworldsYet windfags keep coping and being like "n-not happening" when signs are VERY much pointing to it happening lol.
Lanolin beat the fuck out of Whisper's sorry ass.
>>539737872Shadow sez: I make do with whatever I can
>>539737867Surge could never stay a villain with the whole kidnapped, modified, and brainwashed thing. It took away her agency. Sega should've just let the idea of her being an android through. That way she can be evil without the drama.
>>539736948I don't know, anon, that's why I'm asking the questions here.Why is IDW Publishing in Crossworlds' credits if they weren't in Frontiers' credits? Why would they do that?
>>539737969oh you are right then nu classic its an AU
>IDWfags antagonize archietards>IDWfags antagonize Windchadsit's like you guys want the entire fandom to hate you
>>539737413Yep. Fang is a silly Wile E. Coyote slapstick toon who gets caught in his own traps, trips over himself, and uses a cork popgun. Shadow was designed to be complex and shit.
>>539737784Because Scourge had the stink of Ken Penders on him. Surge actually has official merch they're not the same. >>539738124>Sega should've just let the idea of her being an android through.Terrible. Terrible idea. The best thing Iizuka ever did was make Ian scrap the android idea.
>>539738090There is no cope. We KNOW it's not happening.
I don't even know if I ship Knuckles and Rouge anymore.
Have you guys ever noticed it's really just the Tangle crowd specifically that starts this shit?
>>539737438just wearing shockwave's decapitated head around her neck
>>539737423IDW in the mainline game isn't one of them
A gary stu is a character without flaws, plain and simple.Rey from Star Wars is a Mary Sue, she is better than everyone at everything easily.Sonic can run on water, he can jump higher than Amy, he can run up walls, he's better at combat than Knuckles is, he can hack ancient technology, he can run through dimensional barriers, the emeralds show him special treatment for no known reason, he always knows exactly what to say, he beat Sir Lancelot at swordfighting without a lick of experience, he isn't mentally affected by Dark Gaia at all unlike everyone else, he's the only one that remembers 06, he survives falling from space unassisted, he's inexplicably just as fast and powerful as someone who was engineered to be "the ultimate lifeform" and everyone who isn't overtly evil just likes him. Fuck Sonic, he wasn't like this in SA2, now even his impatience is made to seem as a blessing, he's the only one who ever gets shit done, oh praise be Sonic the messiahog. Shit makes me ill.
>Wants to use the Chaos Emerald to make the planet a better place.>Applies Chaos energy to a living being creating Sonic, but goes insane in the process.TFW Gerald Robotnik is just the ST's canonization of Ovi Kintobor from the American Sonic bible.
>>539738091She did!>>539738267Coping this much in the face of overwhelming evidence is a sign of mental illness anon.
>>539738247>Terrible. Terrible idea. The best thing Iizuka ever did was make Ian scrap the android idea.Well, now she's some poor tragic baby and will eventually be redeemed and become just another rival.
>surge every singe time lmao
>>539738217>muh fandom opinionDon't care I've been here longer than all of you zoomers. Also I'm a Archiechad, a Fleetwaychad, I'm an everythingchad A.K.A a real fan.Also Windfags already hate everyone including themselves so who cares what they think.
The sonic fandom will achieve world peace once IDW is dead and buried
>>539738383>evidenceKek. Is that what you're calling it?
Sega is removing Cream the Rabbit in the meticulous director's recut of Sonic Adventure and replacing her with Jewel the Beetle.
Shadow has no love interests of his own, they're all stolen from Knuckles
>>539738397villains don't stay villains for long in this franchise unless they're eggman or the deadly six. they either die or get redeemed
>>539738625>Shadow has no love interests of his ownEnd the sentence there.
>Think we can just wait till December for the IDW is canon/not canon shit to end>Realize no matter which side "wins" in December people will argue about it anyway>There's no escape, ever
>>539738353This is because his supporting cast was such a ball of scraped up feces that Sonic himself was seen as Jesus Christ from heaven himself so the writers glazed him til kingdom come. Give him a better fucking cast.
>>539738625Shadow loves me
Tails!
>>539738737the forces reveal threads were funny because of thiss specially richmunk melty
>>539738625He might do. but it got nothing to do with Knuckles
>>539738516Freedom will be waiting when the IDW comics die
I just don't want the IDW characters to be canon because they're fucking dumbster fire characters. But I'm conflicted on this because I actually love the monkey.
>>539738737what happens in december?
>>539738516...no? we said the same about fartchie look at us
>>539738737you could just leave the general and not come back.
>>539738625Dude, Maria...?
>>539738996That's assumedly when the two free DLC characters without a vehicle show up going by datamines and what little we know of the scheduling. People speculate they're Tangle and Whisper because they have vehicles which fit them in the game already. So it's likely that by then we'll have a decisive answer on whether or not they get in.
>>539739116Stolen from Knuckles.
You people doubted him but he was right on every front
>>539734247Ugh...Sonic Forces and its consequences...You know, literally nobody had an issue with Classic being Sonic's past before. Like when Metal Sonic came back for revenge, it's generally understood that he is the same character from Sonic CD. There was nothing wrong with the way it was before.
>>539739220
>>539739238Neo Metal should be in
>>539738397>Well, now she's some poor tragic baby and will eventually be redeemed and become just another rival.Good. She fits in even better with the Sonic cast then.
>>539739238I'm pretty sure post-Generations everything classic was supposed to be from a split timeline. The Modern games still had classic stages in them like Green Hill Zone and classic Badniks.
>>539739220>>539739317someone should draw Maria X Knuckles shipart
>>539739238that is something really funny we all tend to forget....the past this, the past that....what past are they talking about in Sonic Heroes when it comes to Metal Sonic? If Classic isn't canon to Modern then there is no past, this is his first appearance.
>>539739238I like it because we can get classic style games and aesthetics completely separated from modern Sonic. Though the way they're going about this isn't the best
>>539738516>>539738927Lol no. I've been in this fandom since Sonic 1 on the genesis. If there was no IDW you zoomers would just be whining about something else. >>539739023Exactly. If it isn't IDW it would be something else they would seethe over.
>>539738675>>539739374So what does Surge bring to the table besides being another Knuckles/Shadow?
not only surgefags are delusional but also patheticthe biggest entitled fanbase in the comics>how dare THEY invited him and not meee!! AAA!!bitch you are filler compared with the OG of IDW
>>539739023Archie will always be remembered more fondly than IDW ever could
>>539739376You're correct but it's still the same Sonic as from the past, just now on a different timeline because a new timeline is opened up if ever you fiddle with the past.
I want IDW to be canon just to piss off the purists, vindicate everythingfags and to set fire to the entire fucking fanbase.I am prepared to suffer the continuity contradictions within IDW like it's version of the Deadline fight, I still believe it's worth doing.
>>539739507We quite literally don't have an edgy female rival that isn't serious 24/7. Rouge comes the closest but she more on the feminine spectrum. Surge has the Tomboy Niche. Blaze is a tomboy rival but she's just female Knuckles and is super serious. Shadow is edgy but in a serious stoic kind of way.Surge literally acts like Fleetway Sonic. That is an edgy Sonic.
>>539739475What about Sonic 4?In that game, Metal comes back for revenge... after Eggman... finds... him... in Little Planet... after Sonic CD... a classic... game...Damn it
>>539739238Does Heroes have any direct references to the Classic games, or is it like DBZ where it only gives enough context for the player to understand the current story, but glosses over the history behind that story.
>>539739221This so much this, randomfox is the last remnants of a true autistic unapologetic sonicfans
Maria and Rouge making out while Shadow watches from the kek cage
>>539739563>bitch you are filler compared with the OG of IDWSurge is more popular than Tangle and Whisper both in the west and japan anon..
>>539739221why does this read like a ragebait despite being true?
>>539739475>what past are they talking about in Sonic Heroes when it comes to Metal Sonic?The same kind of past that Sonic and Silver have in Colors DS should Rivals not be canon.The off-screen kind.That or the flashback Amy has in SA1 when she's thinking about Sonic.
I'm going to lay it down as simple, short, and direct as I can: I don't want your crappy comics in my Sonic games.
Shadow and Rouge are just a very extremely smexy couple, that's just how I feel about it.
>>539739238>Like when Metal Sonic came back for revenge, it's generally understood that he is the same character from Sonic CD.Yes? Its even shown in SONIC ADVENTURE the thing is Generations changed Classic into a new timeline.
>>539739854You don't get a say in this if you were born after 2000.
>>539737662Shadow got minor appearances because he is a Sonic character, and Sonic characters appear in Sonic games. Other characters got minor appearances all the time.>they benched everyoneDidn't happen, unless you mean in gameplay starting from Unleashed, which has nothing to do with Shadow.No seriously, there's no way you actually think Shadow's existence somehow ruins Heroes, Rush, Unleashed, or Generations, and other games where he either doesn't appear or has a minor role just like tons of other characters, all while somehow the Classic brand is saving you from Shadow's influence or whatever. This makes zero sense anon.
What if Shadow had massive milkers?
>>539739475The past still happened, it was just Modern Sonic's past which was similar to but distinct from Classic Sonic's.
I'm going to lay it down as simple, short, and direct as I can: I don't want your crappy westshit in my Sonic games.
>>539739717The latter. Which is always going to be the answer for Sonic especially that era since it's just DBZ the Hedgehog.
>>53973960525 years of advantage IDW meanwhile fumbled at the 4 one but they got the most representation of any comic
>>539740009Would've saved Maria via Black Arms milk.
>>539739927Sonic would unironically make a better romantic partner for Rouge. As he can be playful, fun, and flirtatious. Shadow just broods. He's boring.
>>539737559Those are fair points.>Sega probably doesn't have the Dreamcast build sourcecode anymoreThey probably do have the original source code. But I imagine it's hard to work with Dreamcast code when they already have a PC port. It's worse for us, but it's probably easier for them to work with the port's cleaned up code that isn't tied to the original hardware
>>539740009Milkers bounce when you run, and get in the way when you try to do acrobatic shitSpeedsters need to be aerodynamicThey need to be flat
Sonic girls are NOT attractive
>>539740076except alot more interesting things happened on archie's first 4 than idw's first 4.
the only cure for maria's space aids is shadow's semen, no blood doesn't work it specifically has to be cum and it needs to be in her vagina to work
>>539740037The concept of Classic Sonic didn't exist until Generations.
>>539740173people compared archie vs idw 50 on a poll and idw mogged
I'm going to lay it down as simple, short, and direct as I can: I don't want your crappy modern games
>>539740214shut the fuck up, woman.
>>539740247The concept obviously existed. People knew that starting in Sonic Adventure many aesthetic and stylistic changes occurred in the Sonic series, and that green eyed Sonic was not the same as small chubby Sonic. This perceived distinction is what led to the official separation by Sega in 2011
>>539739238"Classic Sonic" being another dimension does NOT mean that the original trilogy and CD didn't happen in the main universe>>539740037It doesn't have to be distinct either. The 90s games are just Sonic, the new Classic Sonic dimension and characters came later and are (or should be) their own separate AU thing that has no effect on the past and legacy of the original Sonic from 1991
>>539740263>on a pollthose can be easily rigged
This does not confirm Tangle and Whisper are in the game. IDW made the tie in comic.
>>539740247>>539740419People just called it "3D Sonic" and most didn't care, 3D was the new craze and Sonic was just doing the same thing as Mario like always>t. lived through it
>>539740476>coping againThats all you people do.
>>539740156I bet you feel stupid now.
>>539740419Modern Classic Sonic misrepresents the real classic Sonic from the 90s.
>>539740485Does Frontiers credit IDW for its tie in comic?
>>539740419It was just an art direction change from Adventure to Generation.
you guys seen any cool OCs recently? can include your own OCs
>>539739830>That or the flashback Amy has in SA1 when she's thinking about Sonic.Oh yeah I forgot about that. Models be damned that was a clear reference to Sonic CD.
>>539740485They've already been leaked as free DLC in December.
I'm going to lay it down as simple, short, and direct as I can: Modernshit is trite, contrived, mediocre, milquetoast, amateurish, infantile, cliche-and-gonorrhea-ridden paean to conformism, eye-fucked me, smegma-slurping, affront to humanity, resolutely shit, lacking in imagination, uninformed reimagining of, limp-wristed, premature, ill-informed attempt at, talentless fuckfest, recidivistic shitpeddler, pedantic, listless, savagely boring, just one repulsive autistic and laughable shitfest after another.
>>539739605Anon, outside of /sthg/ people remember Archie as that weird comic with the pedo skunkFair or not, deserved or not, Penders has done so much damage to Archie Sonic that it's all normies see
>>539740485429pbpImagine looking at that PUMA thing and immediately thinking "holy shit, like the Movienic shoes, we are so fucking back"IDWfags are delusional as fuck
>>539739478What if I want a "modern" game with "classic" world aesthetics again?
>>539738761Maybe if the adhd-riddled nintendo-reject retards at sonic team made sure sonic's supporting cast weren't shit-stained genre shifts and were actually as fun as sonic when they appeared, they wouldn't have been lambasted and sidelined
>>539739980>didn't happenYes it did. The removal of the cast was deliberate. That's explicitly why Sonic 4 and eventually classic happened.My issue isn't Shadow's existence specifically, its the entire tone and aesthetics of modern being wank that started with Shadow.
>>539740691No they have not.
>>539740037You made that up though. Since Sonic has a past prior to Sonic Adventure, the only past to refer to would be the one that already existed, not the imaginary timeline you just yanked out of your pooper.
>>539740419Anon, I have the classic collection on DS, the boxart and titlescreen uses the modern designs.Yes, there is a gallery with classic art, but that is not the first thing you will see upon starting the game.They were the same characters, they just looked diferent back then, like how Mario's overalls used to be red instead of blue.
>>539740606Cope more>>539740636An art direction that most people thought was inferior to the original games' aesthetics. Plus it wasn't just art but the storytelling also changed
CLASSIC SONIC BEING A DIFFERENT DIMENSION DOES NOT MEAN THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY + CD DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE "MODERN" UNIVERSE
>>539740762...how is project hero and utopia doing?modern means 3Dclassic its 2Dits two gameplay styles that dont overlap
>>539740672I saw a cockroach one that actually managed to be cute and well designed, I didn't save a picture of it though and I can't remember where i saw it unfortunately. have you seen any cool sonic OCs recently anon?
Could you imagine being a 30+ year old, Shitdow loving, chinless, mouthbreathing, incel who does nothing but sit all day in a lukewarm, smelly, humid room "playing" dogshit video games made by directionless and clueless hacks that are universally and unanimously hated by anyone that has a brain larger than the volume of a walnut and having the audacity to claim your said dogshit video games somehow saved the franchise even though it went down in gaming history as one of the most embarrassing and catastrophic modernshit disasters in franchise time? You are a total and utter failure of a human being. Do your parents a favor and relieve them of the burden of ever conceiving your sorry, manchild ass you total and complete utter waste of space and oxygen. Wipe yourself off the face of the planet.
>>539740119There's nothing smexy about a jock dropping corny one-liners on a sultry seductress and you know that. Shadow and Rouge being all dark and mysterious is just hot, simple as. Sonic and Rouge don't compare.
>>539740869You didn't understand what I said. OFFICIALLY the distinction occurred in 2011 but back in the 2000s everyone knew that "Modern" and "Classic" Sonic were different. Because they were. It was this perceived difference that caused Sega to split the brand, not the other way around
>>539741034I'm 28 and I have many chins
(You)
>>539740802So you were talking about the characters not being playable. It has nothing to do with propping up Shadow.>the entire tone and aesthetics of modern being wank that started with ShadowAgain, mind explaining how that applies to... most games in the series? There are only like 3 games that focus on Shadow, and only like 1 or at most 2 games that go for a darker tone to suit him. It seems like you just want excuses to be mad at Shadow for some reason.
what if shadow chaos controlled his cum into sonics balls and then sonic came shadows cum
>>539740738Whatever Zoomer
>>539740875Cope about what...? Modern Classic Sonic doesn't have the style or storytelling the series used to have. This is a fact.>An art direction that most people thought was inferiorI guarantee you wouldn't be here without the redesigns. The series would have ended in 1996 if Sonic Adventure wasn't a success, just like all other non-Mario platformers stopped being relevant and stopped getting games.
>>539740672I grabbed this cool crab from a random thread here a few months agoDoes that count?
>started with shadow Chaos doesn't match classican we had the dragon ball stuff since forever
What's the point of an SA3 existing? SA2 ended on a good note, even if it was originally meant to be the very last game in the franchise, so what else could be done with a third Adventure game?
>>539740785I mean I agree with you
>>539741179
>>539741318Because it would be fun and I want to play it :)
>>539740987So I guess Sonic Advance and Colors DS are classic then, got it>...how is project hero and utopia doing?Abandoned lol
>>539741359this image is older than you are
>>539740747Not true, they remember Archie Sonic as "oh remember that Time Sonic has a comic with that chipmunk girl that's kinda cool" Meanwhile IDW Sonic is like "what is IDW??"
Why isn't she in Speed Battle yet?
It's discussions like this that make it clear the Classic branding should just be killed off. Most people have already forgotten it since it got stale after Mania. Let the series continue to evolve, and if someone has a problem with that, they can be stuck in the past replaying those old games they claim to love (but constantly disrespect).
>>539740247It's likely an unpopular opinion, but Generations has done more damage to the franchise than Heroes, '06 and Colors combined. The whole Classic/Modern split thing is an utterly awful and illogical idea.
>>539741290The redesigns and art direction changes were completely unnecessary. Sonic Adventure was a success because it was a Dreamcast launch title, and the Dreamcast sold well at first until being gaped by the PS2. Even then if Adventure was a classic style game it would've done just as well. Also I never said anything about the redesigns
>>539741514not a real character
>>539741087They weren't, I grew up in the 2000s, I thought they were the same and I had no idea what Tails meant by "Doctor Robotnik" when I played Generations as a kid.People didn't think about it too hard, I watched X on those dinky DVD players to the shops and I didn't think "hmm, is this canon?" I just thought it was more Sonic, I thought Generations was referencing X with Perfect Chaos because I didn't play SA1 until I had a Steam account.I understand what you are saying, but what I am saying is that you are incorrect.
>>539741179This probably happened to Masonic during one of his competitions with Sutekh the Set Animal.
>>539740672Quit trying to sneak OCs into the thread Woefag
>>539741304I give credit to whoever the creator of this OC is, a Horseshoe crab is an unorthodox choice of animal to base a sonic OC on and it looks decently good too.
>>539741543Generations also stuck us with endless nostalgiapandering (Green Hill and Chemical Plant especially).
>>539741594>Didn't recognize RobotnikSo you just missed the SA2 arc in X?????
https://files.catbox.moe/wttszp.jpeg
>>539740747>>539741494You're both wrong, people only remember Archie Sonic to powerwank him in vs battles.Proofs: google "Archie Sonic" and look at the suggested results.
>>539741669Yes, I didn't have all the DVDs back then.
>>539741318I don't care if it's called SA3 or not. I just want some adventure gameplay and a modern Chao garden with proper Internet features. Some times I fantasize about a what if shadow gens were instead of 3D and 2D stages it was 3D(modern) and 3D(adventure style).
>>539741318""SA3"" means we are back to old school gameplay without boostshit because 06 its already SA3 in everything but name and chao garden
>>539741572What were you talking about then? Adventure on the Dreamcast still had the classic aesthetics beside the Uekawa redesigns.>completely unnecessaryLong running series get redesign changes all the time. Even Mario had redesigns as another anon said. It's normal, and they do it because it IS necessary to keep the series fresh. Sonic wouldn't be around today if Sonic Adventure wasn't the great game it is.
I like sonic underground
>>539741005found this snail girl on the /sthg/ OC tumblr, and she's pretty damn cool, dont see much snail OCs
>>539740747>>539741494>>539741725The same test shows that most people googling IDW are looking to maybe get into reading IDW.This sounds good but I don't think it is.It means that a lot of people AREN'T reading IDW and are trying to decide whether or not they should.
>>539741594They were the same "entities" but they were different. SatAM Sonic and X Sonic are different but they're still technically the same entity. If people didn't see "Classic" and "Modern" Sonic as different they wouldn't have made the split in the first place >>539741529Yeah because 2000sfags respect the Classics way more by defending garbage like 06 right? Kek
Sonic Adventure 1 is the last canon game. Everything after is fanfiction.
>>539741934SA2 can be canon, remember it ends in Shadow dying and Rouge fucking off to be government spy somewhere else so it doesn't actually change anything
jet the genie
>>539740942>CLASSIC SONIC BEING A DIFFERENT DIMENSION DOES NOT MEAN THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY + CD DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE "MODERN" UNIVERSEThat's just it, there was no other dimension until Forces made it confusing...
>>539741916>idw sonic comics amazongood for IDW. Now i can believe its one of the most sold together with TMNT (own league)
>>539741139Let me try again: Shadow and Silver were tragic anti-heroes (Mary Sues) and the tone of their characters and stories were so incongruent with everything else in the franchise and people did not like them so Sonic Team had to totally change direction and stop using them. However Sonic Team's vision is more in line with those stories and want to go back to them, like Frontiers. Hence why classic continues to exist.
2000sfags "like" the classics the same way idwfags "like" the 2000s games. They only like the parts that service it. They don't care about the intent behind it and think that the people who do care about those things are annoying purists
>>539740672Here's one
>>539740738T R U E K E
Sex with blaze
>>539742084>Shadow and Silver were tragic anti-heroes (Mary Sues) and the tone of their characters and stories were so incongruent with everything elseknuckles is literally the same
Honestly, as much as I tend to praise the original trilogy, if you look at it objectively there isn't much to those games. That's not to say they're not fun, but they're a one and done arcade experience from point A to point B. You can replay it several times, sure, but that's where it ends. Those games don't even have time attack or ranks, let alone side activities like missions and collectibles (Emblems/Red Star Rings/etc). Compared to later games they feel very small and empty without much to do, very lacking overall. I know some of the rereleases tried to make up for these issues, but it's far from enough when you compare it to games like SA2 or Unleashed.
>>539741802Sega should remaster 06 with better level design and fixed bugs.
>>539741802If the Chao is space 3 sign appears in silver's future that means there was likely a huge gap between 2 and 3. How do you think the third movie was received in world after reviving a long dead series?
>>539741669>>539741768Actually, thinking about it, why would Classic Tails call Classic Eggman "Doctor Robotnik" if he was referring to Eggman's Grandfather, Gerald Robotnik?Not only is he formally known as a professor rather than a doctor, Classic Tails wouldn't know who that is yet.Even if I had the "context" of who "Doctor Robotnik" was from SA2 or X, it still makes no sense for Tails to say that, and even less sense for Classic Eggman to actually acknowledge that as a name he himself went by.
>>539735616>idw is mentioned in a main game>again>this place will say it doesn't count.I'm not even a fan, but for real, why this place have such denial, when idw is directly involved into the games and all sonic social media, And multimedia in general.
>>539740247People were already associating the modern sonic design with the shit games by 2008. Sega decided nothing.
>>539742084Anon I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense. There are also several games, including ones that came out during Shadow's peak of popularity in the 2000s, that are nothing like what you described.
Why do you guys even care about comicshit fanon anyways. None of it is any good.
>>539741903I always appreciate when fans use weird animals as bases for their OCs instead of making another hedgehog or fox. Also I rememeber this anon, they also drew a fanparent OC for shadow. I wonder if they're still around?
>>539741802the chao trio didn't work
>>539741725Yep true. This is what normies think of Archie as a whole, power level stuff or Sally Acorn (if you’re a man of culture). The rapist skunk and Bunnie rape thing are parroted by jealous IDW fans, since they have no selling point except LGBTQ representation
>>539742174
>>539741812"keeping things fresh" You're just a dog that eats whatever new pile of garbage is thrown at you. Changing things for the sake of changing things isn't good nor sustainable. I guess you like the Boom designs too right?The Classic designs were perfect and universally appealing as they were and there was no need for change. I don't even hate the modern designs but I can't stand this "keeping things fresh" mindset. To keep things fresh you should add new elements that build up from old elements in a natural and cohesive way not just throwing anything at the wall to see what sticks
Blaze doesn't know what sex is
>>539742279I think the word you're looking for is reimagine. A remaster wouldn't redesign the stages. And a remake would still have a very messy story.
>>539742207No? He was a trickster character in 3K and turned into a meathead in SA1
>>539742310>why this place have such denialSevere autism and mental illness.
>>539742059However, according to Generations, Sonic was mute, he already knew Tails when he was in Green Hill, and learned to Homing Attack and boost from his older self. I really don't like these inaccuracies>>539742113Wrong, I love everything about Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 and I also like the 2000s games
>>539742409i really hope they are, their art absolutely kicks ass
Blaze is an anal queen
>>539742279they need to fix the gameplay anon and Nu SEGA its incapable of doing the other characters good Frontiers DLC they are barely playable , specially Tails , he is a goddam joke
>>539742492no dumbass i mean he's a mary sue with a tragic backstory
WHY IS THEBYELLOW NOT TAILS?!!
>>539730006They don't like the Advance games because they're actually just CDposers being casual losers.
Where is the femcel characters?
Starline and Tangle are the most creative OCs in IDW
>>539742472They didn't change things for the sake of changing things, the designs were a good evolution and were well thought out and had massive appeal (you wouldn't be here without them, by the way, never forget that). They really need some kind of overhaul right now, at least with their 3D models.>I guess you like the Boom designs too right?The motivation behind them was different, but yeah. I think they missed the mark with Knuckles by making his silhouette unrecognizable, but other than that the Boom redesigns are alright. Boom certainly had bigger problems.
Blaze isn’t a virgin but doesn’t know what sex is
>>539742680
>>539742742>Knuckles>mary sueThere is no possible way to justify this take. He is the assclown of the series.
>>539742251>Those games don't even have time attack or ranksHonestly, ranks always felt like superfluous padding. The original trilogy didn't had any of it and was still way more fun than the Dreamcast games.
Blaze and SIlver had sex in the future but they forgot because amnesia. So yes they are technically virgins
>>539742731Shiruba-san pov
>>539742886are you deadass rn?
>>539732614This is why we call it nu Classic or Modern Classic
>>539738090What will you say when not even one single IDW OC gets in Crossworlds? I can already predict that you will cry, shit and piss yourself.
>>539742902>the Dreamcast gamesPlease.Please.PLEASE.PLEASE PLAY THE FUCKING GAMESPLAY THE GAMES.Sonic Adventure does not have ranks. Play the games.>ranks always felt like superfluous paddingNo, they are necessary because people like you, who don't play the games, will just go through the stage once and think you've done everything there is to do. Ranks give an estimate, they tell you that you didn't get a good time or score, something the classics and Adventure games completely failed at.
>>539742978Knuckles has fallen SO MUCH ever since the S3&K days. It's a shame that he's mostly a joke character now.
>>539742279Sega is not going to remaster 06. A recompile on the other hand is on the way. It'll probably be out by next year.https://github.com/sonicnext-dev/MarathonRecomp
>>53973424SAY IT WITH MET H R E E W O R L D S
>>539743059I don't need to think about that because its obvious they're going to be in.
>>539743001We call it that because it's its own thing that only (very) vaguely resembles actual 90s Sonic material
>>539743104NTA but the Classic Sonic games are literally built around replayability. You don't need ranks. Just play, have fun and get better naturally
I still hope Maria gets to race she deserves it. Her model already exists all she needs is a car so it would be rather easy.
>>539736364https://youtu.be/--6CdAypJsQ
>>539742279The level design is already near perfect. It's the controls and general polish (collision bugs mainly) that need work
>>539741034>tailsfags, knucklesfags and amyfags can dodge the classic vs modern shitflingingkek
>>539743271THE BITCHIS DEAD
>>539742113I've noticed it too. They cherrypick things that are vaguely similar between the Genesis and the 2000s games to force a sense of cohesion that doesn't exist.
>>539743104>Ranks give an estimate, they tell you that you didn't get a good time or scoreWhy is that important for you in a game like Sonic? Ranks should be something OPTIONAL, not obligatory to proceed in a game.
Say it with me seven rings in hand
>>539743271Could be cool to have characters that are already dead, or discontinued.Like maria and tikal, bonus points for infinite.
>>539743335What about Black Doom? isn't there radical highway?
jesus you fuckers don't play the games lmao
>>539743187>because its obvious they're going to be in...Based on absolutely no tangible evidence.
>>539743335And? Doesn't the game take place all across time and space? Her being dead doesn't seem like a problem.
>>539741903i'm sharing a 2nd cool OC because i found it in my downloads folder
>>539741514She flopped as a character.
>>539743487>bonus points for infiniteIs infinite even confirmed dead?
>>539743554If that's what you need to believe in order to cope go ahead.
>people think Archie Sonic is the strongest Sonic when he's not even the second strongest anymoreOkay pussies, you want powerscaling, you're getting powerscaling.The strongest Sonic is Fleetway Super Sonic because the writers for StC said he was still mightier than Robotnik was when he had become omnipotent, that doesn't make sense narratively, but that is how they treated him back then. After him you've got game Sonic because he speedblitzed Reverse Flash and traded blows with Darkseid as Super Sonic.Out of those two, game Sonic does have more potential, but that's obviously only because Fleetway ended with its adaptation of SA1 and only gets more to its setting if you count StCO because the same people who worked on the original comic also contributed to it.
>>539743249They are built around replayability, but they give no frame of reference to how well you played beyond an esoteric "score" that no one bothers measuring, and times that no one bothers to keep track of. I guarantee you almost no one in this general has beaten Scrap Brain act 1 in less than 2 minutes (I'm being generous here) even though that's a challenge intentionally put in the game by the developers. The other day someone called me a "speedrun tranny" because I said an experienced player should be able to beat Labyrinth act 1 in less than a minute. He insisted Labyrinth is slow and there is nothing to be done about it. The classics fail to communicate what the goal of the game is so badly that most people haven't even tried to beat the challenge. Ranks easily solve all these issues.
What's the appeal of powerscaling?
>>539743607Okay, that design is really cool. He actually looks like he could be an offical classic era Character.
IDW won btw>>539743517this thread aren't even secondaries (reads comics/watches the cartoon), they're fucking tertiaries. They don't play the games ,they don't read the comics, they just watch OTHER people play the fucking games or make eceleb bullshit videos about the comics and pretend to be fans.It's disgusting.
>>539743797my hellokitty >>>>>>>>>> your hellokitty
>>539743428I don't know of a single Sonic game in which ranks are obligatory to proceed. Ranks are important because they give a frame of reference of whether you've actually beaten the core challenge or not.
>>539743797Seeing your favorite character objectively be superior to others is satisfying i guess
>>539743797Shipping for Boys / Dick measuring contest/
>>539743335Crossworlds has no story, anon. Even disregarding that, Tikal was playable in SA2. Gamma was playable in Shuffle.
>>539741304>>539743607These are just Mighty
>>539743435This fanbase will hype up the shittiest games of their era and expect to be taken seriously
>>539743952>25 years agothings are not the same anymore
Sonic died with the Dreamcast
Are there more Sonic fanart with this vibe?
>>539743394They will always have more cohesion than Meta Era Classic Sonic slop. The only 2000s game that seriously doesn't fit is Shadow's, and that's because it's explicitly designed to not be a Sonic game (just like Meta Era slop!)
Put Mephiles in
>>539744098He wants to exist!
>>539743794I think ranks limit the ways you can approach a level. I don't need to be assigned a performance grade over the way I chose to play the game. I can approach the game however I want.
>>539743736The DC crossover is not canon. At MOST, you can credit that feat to IDW Sonic.
>>539743797It's an entertaining thought exercise, how would this thing interact with this thing if they were to interact in this way?It's also used by writers all the time, the Titans being strong enough to easily beat Sonic is the reason why you need to get the emeralds so often in Frontiers, Sonic isn't powerful enough, but Super Sonic is and Super Sonic is the only available option right now.
I'm actually starting to get disgusted when I see an anon post something and I can tell they don't play the games
>>539744184Yes, and those versions of DC characters are featless
Game Sonic is supposed to be as fast as the Flash. Archie Sonic, by internet consensus, loses to the Flash. So Game Sonic > Archie Sonic.
>>539744170Ignore the rank then. I do that often when I want to prioritize time attack over the combination of time attack+score that Sonic Team usually goes with. Ideally I think the best approach would be to remove the lower ranks and give each stage a time goal, a score goal, and a time+score goal. Forces has the rank for time+goal and time goals for each stage. SRB2 awards emblems for time and score separately. Both of those are very close to my ideal. Either way, the existing ranking system is great and it's way better than not having it at all
>>539744285Krack is a deranged lunatic. Someone should report her to the police.
>>539744184If I'm counting the crossover and the fucking fan continuation of a dead comic series, I'm counting IDW as game Sonic.>but I don't!Then don't, I will continue to because either way I'm still right about Archie Sonic not even being the second strongest Sonic, theoretically he's not even in the top 3 or 5.
>>539743974...is it bad that I think the hercules beetle OC looks cooler than Mighty?
>>539744285what a retarded faggot, being transphobic is awesome
>>539743435I would like this game more without the the on-rails system...It's cool.
>>539744372Base sonic runs at the speed of sound super Sonic runs(flys?) at the speed of light simple as.
>>539744454You got bitch slapped by ken penders, stfu krack
You want me to get along with IDWfags when they openly admit to bringing trannies to this place to have some war with a namefag
>>539744285Why is this autist fighting with randos on twitter?
>>539744409 (Me)>Forces has the rank for time+goal*time+score>>539744518I think someone is remaking it as a P-06 mod or something, maybe check that out
>>539744546not everyone is your boogeyman retarded faggot
>>539744285Profoundly midguided and lost person.
>>539744454You're going to jail Krack
Actually, Super Sonic flies at almost light speed, only Hyper Sonic is FTL!I don't like Mario vs Sonic 2.
>>539744427>If I'm counting the crossover and the fucking fan continuation of a dead comic series, I'm counting IDW as game Sonic.He isn't Game Sonic. He's just heavily adjacent to him since they had the same adventures. That means Archie Sonic is weaker than Game Sonic and IDW Sonic.
>>539744590You voted for a pedophile who raped america and rapes your kids, lolYou're more than a traitor to america, you are a traitor to mankind. I hope you're an atheist because you are going to get RRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPEDDD in hell otherwise.
Sonic Generations was a mistake and the series is still suffering because of it to this day.
>>539744569Slashy
>>539743736>>539744427No-diffed by Al and Cal
i hate offtopic shit but krack going to jail would be amazing lol
>>539744545Sonic can go at the speed of light without going Super.
>>539743794>they give no frame of reference to how well you playedSonic isn't a sim racing franchise. There's no need to overthink things about the classics when in their essence they're casual platform games meant to be simple to understand and play. Whether they have a concrete "challenge" or not is entirely subjective to the player.
>>539739854Imagine saying this while posting that pic
>>539744546>>539744634>>539744689>>539744791Why is this troon sperging so hard? Talk to your parents and go outside.
>>539744861kys krack
>>539744805Only while light dashing.
>>539744861We don't want to deal with that hypocritical off topic spammer here.
>>539743394This is a fact. 2000sfags weaponizing "The wind" to force the idea of cohesion is also not good. The original Sonic Team was almost completely absent by the time the phrase "Sonic is like the wind" was uttered. Windnic is the result of Sonic worshipping fans getting hired onto the franchise.
>>539744717Okay but why are you bringing this in the thread?
>>539744861It's actually pathetic. Rope trannies.
>>539744913No. I'm pretty sure it's said Sonic can go at actual light speed -- speed of light.
>>539744884ywnbaw
>>539744285Why is krack so based?
Vanilla
>>539744826This is how I know you've never made a serious effort to engage with the level design of the classics, especially Sonic 1 since it's probably still the best game in this regard. Please stop talking about things you don't understand. The classics, like other games in the series, are very clearly designed to be replayed until you know the paths and rhythms of each act. They don't make the challenge explicit because, at the time, it was thought getting good scores (and in the case of the classics time, since they give a time bonus to the score) was understood as the goal in video games. Ranks (or the mission system in Forces for example) streamline the process, since most people (You) clearly don't understand how the games are designed.
>>539743435>>539744518>>539744573>I think someone is remaking it as a P-06 mod or something, maybe check that outProject Reignition, yeah: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJXjfT3Cxxs
>namefag drama out of nowhere
>>539744861whya re you seehting tranny? are you krack? one of his simps? rope yourself tardo
Stop raiding pls
>>539744285>Slashy trying to make people think /sthg/ loves trannies nowOk we need this faggot gone.
>>539745027A woman who doesn't go along with the opinions of the majority pisses off progressives like nothing else. These retards still can’t comprehend the idea of a woman thinking for herself, so much that they think any woman doing it must be purged.
>>539744973Sonic always had that characterization, whether or not the phrase "Sonic is like the wind" was used to describe it. Now stop with this retardation.
>>539745006Really? I only recall some light dash descriptions menting light speed outside of super Sonic.
>>539745106its unironically krack and his discord trannies the general was comfy and talking about sonic until that dogshit appeared its a fucking raid
>>539744717>>539744285>still salty about a tranny getting told to shut upSorry but inside the mind of a normal sonic fans, transgender is still very weird
>>539745184>le oppressed wymbymYou aren't special. You aren't radical. Your entire life is parroting what men tell you to think in youtube videos. Ironic that you try to like you're independent when you literally cannot deviate from what your talking heads demand you to think
>>539745106it's slashy and his discord troons raiding the sonic general
>>539743290Ngl, i bop with this
>>539745173yeah he's been legit inviting trannies here through discord, it's fucking obnoxious, we're not your hugbox freaks
>>539745229Its stated he can move at speed of light in several guides, and became so fast that apparently his finite ends are in quadrillions of times ftl
>>539745360>i need my conservative hugbox! how dare you disagree with me on an anonymous imageboard!you can't do shit nigga lol. go back to Xitter you dumb lolcow.
Stop talking about off topic garbage. Talk about Sonic Adventure 2's amazing the speed stages gameplay or something.
I love Krack!
>>539744285We're pissed?
>>539745447White Jungle is kino
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>539745449Drugs are bad m'kay.
>>539744285>4chan is pissed at tranny losing a jobIf Gigi actually lost her job, we’d be fucking celebrating
>>539744973We could point out tons of similarities and you'd dismiss all of them as cherrypicked and vague because you are biased against those games.
>>539745235>Slashy gets so pissed off with krack not liking trannies that he invites trannies here>This is krack's fault and not the fault of slashy inviting trannies herePlease kill yourself
So trolls really convinced people Sonic was orignally the spirit of some deceased pilot because it came from sonic gaiden , a short story....LMAOOOOOOOOO the fact that retards like Pariah took the bait too
>>539745447I'm too busy thinking about if I actually like Sonic or the version in my head filled with potential
>>539744717>>539744285>Poosky.socialReminder that your masters are leaning to banning hard porn ala tumblr and they actually don't care about you wacko lefties.>Fell for it award
>>539745593or..its the faut of both? if i had only one bullet i would line them for a double kill
>>539745475It's great, I like the music and how it fits into the narrative in particular, but gameplay wise my favorites are City Escape, Metal Harbor, and Final Rush. What a great game>>539745615It was one of three stories that were written by Yasuhara in 1990 to pitch the series to SEGA, those three stories are what got the Sonic series greenlit and they set the foundations for the games going forward
>>539745615the japanese origin story is ass. but so is the american one where sonic becomes fast because he exercised on a treadmill. but at least it's more sensible.
>>539745351Of course you do, Zestver.
>>539745695Who cares? I'll just go to another website to post my art. I'm not a pathetic goyim who needs to follow the crowd or farm updoots.
>>539745447Metal harbor is my favorite stage in the game and it's also my favorite track (that I've played in the beta) in crossworlds
>>539745315Insane projection coming from a fucking prog
The day krack's disgusting selfies leak and people make fun of that fat lolcow will be the funniest day in /sthg/ history
>>539745836I don't know if it was my favorite, but I did pick it a lot in the ONT. This might be controversial from what I've seen but I like the final lap music
>>539745797Like what bitch? Twitter is the place, period, until you faggots do it right or until Japan stop forcing people to censor penises.It won't matter anyways because jewnited states are going to id people then jail all coomers afters.
>>539745615They really tricked people into becoming everythingfags instead of the game purists they wanted to be kek
>>539745905>The day krack's disgusting selfies leak and people make fun of that fat lolcow will be the funniest day in /sthg/ historyGigi's selfies are already out and /sthg/ is making fun of your precious tranny daily.
Movie 4 is gonna be a mess. Even if they write Amy "correctly" it won't make sense for her to have a crush on the whiny dipshit they made sonic into
>>539745905I'm sure that no matter how she looks, she looks more like a woman than you do
>>539745887lmao the us government is desperately trying to frame leftists as terrorists and revitalize the red scare, because a leftist government (china) is annihilating them in their own capitalist games.Communism turned tsarist russia from a third world shithole into a nuclear superpower that beat the combined efforts of europe and america to space, in less than 40 years. And this was after a brutal war against fascism decimated their population.
>>539745447SA2 is proto linear design garbage only final rush is good
>bestie
>>539746036Sonic was always linear, and there is nothing wrong with linearity in the first place
Why are earth would you name yourself after a tranny zombie?
>>539746079Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
I'm glad Sage won and is here to stay.
>>539746036t. hyped for Prime 4 Beyond
You pathetic children are getting this mad because someone told you to keep Shadow in character? Because she called out an IDW SONIC writer on their heinous behavior? Unsuited for a childrens comic?
>>539746020I look way more like a woman than that fat bitch. She looks like she was the victim of a fucking acid attack, lmao. It's fucking bleak how bad she looks. If she looked good, you do realize she wouldn't be a lonely femcel, right? She looks HIDEOUS.
>>539744285she's making them go crazy again just by existingsuch power
yuji naka the creator of sonic follows trump junichi the voice actor for sonic hopes trump is safesega hardlight deleted their post about lgbt gigi was told by sega to shut up about tranny politics rouge's voice actor is a conservative terf who is antivaxmike pollock supports israel and doesn't like tranniesshadow's voice actor likes posts about sonadow being disgusting sonic is friends with the president in sonic x, who's based on an irl president who tried banning gay marriage sonic is friends with and supports multiple monarchsstop trying to force every space to be your hugbox sonic fans do not need to have your ideology to like the series sonic fans can have whatever belief they want and sonic would support that
>>539746181Sage is based
>>539746082then SA2 got an upgrade with Boostshit
>>539746035>reframe leftists as terroristsThey are. RIP Charlie Kirk.
how did we got some Adventure 2 to Heroes...?
>>539746317Erm.. her entire existence endangers the life of our precious wholesome trans women, you fucking chud
Sonic isn't a religion you stupid wind lunatics. Scrapped concept story pitches aren't ancient sacred texts that everyone must adhere to. Have you all gone crazy,?
>slashy discord vs krack discord/sthg/ is just the victim here
This thread was already bad enough when it was Classic VS Modern shitposting, we didn't need off topic politics as well
>>539746375>yuji naka the creator of sonic follows trumpWhen did he do that? I thought he was in jail for insider trading. I recall "mister Yuji naka isn't alright" memes about it.
Decent people don't support anyone being killed for exercising their right to free speech regardless of whether they agree or even find it disgusting. America is the idea that disagreements can be sorted out peacefully through the open exchange of ideas.t. Harris voter
What would be characteristion of a Sonic fused from Sonics of all continuities?
>his friend
>>539746317Real women make trannies have meltys, just look at JK rowling.>>539746235Post jawline.
Can you retards argue somewhere else?
>>539746484What do you mean>>539746559He didn't go to jail
>>539746560Damn I already forgot what her name was. I actually had to google the name.
>>539746560Shut the fuck up baby.
>>539745070This.It should be taken into account that Sonic games aren't meant for everyone. It takes time for some to become aware of that fact and abandon the franchise for good.
Krack mocked charlie kirk on her discord. Fucking scumbag.
>>539746651Adventure 2 had a cool style to it. Everyone had their own dedicated stages. Controls weren't incredibly slippery. Some neat side content.Then we got Heroes...
>>539746235Rouge says you will never be a real girl
>>539746484If you meant from, that was Iizuka deciding it would be better to make it easier for newcomers to get into Sonic. The original story idea for SA3 was repurposed into Unleashed
this is why fast won
>>539746651>He didn't go to jailSo, mister Yuji naka is alright?
>>539746732Are you really gonna spam this everyday? The thread was literally fine until you started this screencap shot again.
>>539746532Based krack we need to clone her for TTD
>>539746560Rare based Dem.
>>539746559>I thought he was in jail for insider tradingNaka never went to prison for the 5 millionth time.
>long time ago the """"""/sthg/"""""" d*scord shitposted /sthg/ for months begging for people to switch to d*scord>same shit is happening now no way right? is ./fast/ than petty?
Sonic Adventure 2 has the same aesthetics as the original classic trilogy. Sonic was always going for a realistic artstyle with surreal elements in the 90s
>>539746484If I recall correctly heroes was made in response to the criticism of the adventure games being too serious and dark.
>>539744285>>539744717>>539746560This has nothing to do with Sonic.
He's been doing this every day. Just r&i.
>>539746885The existence of a single female makes transvestites who suck cock for money seethe in sheer rage. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic.
are you seriously trying to turn a 4chan general into a tranny hugbox
Report the spammer.
>>539746882Yeah
>>539746484same reason we went from unleashed to Colors. Game was done for toddlersHeroes was going to be more light in nature Reminder these were the original teams
Sirs, please stap talking about charlie the clerk, please post more of that delhi hoochie blez the cat
>>539746843I still post there every day
>>539747091no she explained her thoughts on him in a server she disagrees with some takes & said he made an insensitive comment
Cream the Rabbit
>>539746978>no way right? is ./fast/ than petty?what does this mean???
KrackGOD....
>>539747379Please do not cream the rabbit
>>539747396He's trying to blame the raid on /fast/ because he's mad he was banned from there months ago.
>>539747398Stop hurting transfolks by encouraging bigoted people. /sthg/ isn't a place for transphobes anymore. We will push them out.
>>539747086https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWDozBLKdJ4
>>539747419I'll poop on you if you don't.
>>539747483You’re on 4chan, sir.
SA2trannies? explain?
I haven't checked SAGE in years. Are 2D romhacks still being made or has everyone dumped them for game engines and frameworks?
You guys talk about me more than you talk about official staff like Iizuka and Evan.
>>539747527That would be fudge the rabbit.
>>539747574WOOOOOOAW YEH
>>539747574That video uses it as a compliment if you actually watch it. He says it plays well and it looks as cool as a cutscene, not that it plays itself
>>539747480...no? i barely care about /fast/ its just clear this shit its a raid
>>539747616We talk about Ian Flynn all the time.
>>539747680So why did you bring up /fast/ out of nowhere? This raid is most likely being done by Slashy, who doesn't post on /fast/ at all (you can very easily tell that he's not there, and that he doesn't tell his friends to go there).
>>539747616Why is Evan of all people the second staff member you can think of???
>>539747527Well count me out then.
>>539747681Well, yes, but Ian is Ian. >>539747764Because she's one of the most mentioned staff members here. I'd love if you talked more about Karasuno or Toyoda or basically anyone on the Japanese team, but most of them don't do anything controversial.
>>539747758NoThis started from a random Bluesky post designed to start anti-trans discourse.
>>539747924You should talk about those things instead of your off topic ramblings
>>539747886Scatku...
>>539747934Bluesky posts made by that CtrAltDemocracy guy that you invited here a few days ago.
>>539748090Okay so you cant be reasoned with.Good day!
>>539748187I don't like to blame you, but all the evidence points to it being your fault right now.
>>539747758then who is part of the raid? because this shit feel coordinated in both sidesand just before it started shilling /fast/ jut like d*scord did it back then
>>539748009It's slightly inconvenient to talk about Sonic-related topics I enjoy because someone will recognize me and have some sort of thread-derailing fit where they claim I need to be skinned alive.
>>539748257Slashy, Violet, CtrlAltDemocracy.>>539748270I think they do that even when they don't recognize you.
I can't post loli on /fast/ so why should i post there?
>>539746560>t.nìggërfaggot moloch worshipper voterNigga
>>539748270Horrible excuse
>>539748270maybe people like me want you dead or raped because you talk about off topic garbage instead of sonic? we just had a great thread before the raid came
Mmmmmmmmm sonurge...
THISTHREAD ISTURNINGDOUBLEASS
>>539748350>I think they do that even when they don't recognize you.I guess that's true. Sometimes I click on the thread and it's already completely derailed by someone assuming I'm here arguing with them about Shadow or shipping. I don't really understand why the reaction is so extreme, like I murdered their family as opposed to being annoying/autistic.
>>539748536The thread was mostly shit before the raid already. The Classic VS Modern debate is annoying and tired. Such debates prove the Classic branding should have never existed. Sonic Generations was a mistake that the series is still suffering from.
>>539748703Save us ass poster!
>>539748787>the Classic branding should have never existed...why?Not everyone like modern sonic and thats fine Its like megaman and X
>>539744721Anon, Fleetway Super Sonic is above an omnipotent Robotnik.Above omnipotence.That'd make Fleetway Super stronger than either one of them, possibly both.
>>539748619Sonic, don't sniff there!!
>>539748968Because it encourages this retarded conflict, whereas before Sonic was allowed to have both the 2D and 3D gameplay, as well as serious and lighthearted styles, as well as the characters, without any unnecessary separations. Instead of picking a side, you would just like a game, or its art, on a game to game basis. I'm not even saying they shouldn't use classic or classic-inspired character designs. This Classic/Modern approach has only caused issues over the years, and now Classic is being gradually abandoned.
You know "Omnipotent" is never supposed to be taken literally, right?
NEW THREAD OR I MAKE IT WITH DIAPER SURGE
>>539748968That would be stupid though Rockman and X are two distinct characters with their own memories, same with Volnutt and the battle network guys. We're constantly led to believe that classic and modern are the same character just at different points in their life and at some point sonics world gets hit with an edge ray or something and everyone mutates into their modern form
>>539748968I don't think that's a very good comparison. X isn't all too different from classic MegaMan it's literally just MegaMan but X-tream, and most fans love both. It's not the same as the sonic stuff. MegaMan fans don't cry because of X's eye color. they cry because Capcom won't give them a new game even though 11 was the best selling MegaMan game and the collections all did very well but will repeatedly say "we love MegaMan!" Whenever they're asked about it.
>>539749163>now Classic is being gradually abandoned.they keep doing classic merch and i bet we are gettig another classic game down the line
Nice thread
>>539749630Stop posting a screencap of your own post that got 0 responses. It makes you look massively autistic.
>>539749490....The gameplay between X and classic its totally different? same with the level design >>539749353classic sonic after gens its his own different sonic with new adventures
>>539749505We'll see, they said Superstars was a disappointment after all. I think they kept making Boom merch for a while after that failed too.
>>539749724>>We'll see, they said Superstars was a disappointment after allIt sold 2M in under two years.
>>539749684And if they brought trip into modern sonic and sonic was like "oh hey trip haven't seen you since (classic game reference)" then what? That possibility is always there.
Why is Classic Sonic a mute baby? Sonic didn't behave like that in the 90s
>>539749313Argento...
>>539749171The issue of StC that Robotnik became omnipotent in actually knew the definition of the word, all-powerful and capable of anything, if you read the comic you'd know that.
Eggman is a DILF
>>539749797And SEGA called it a disappointment.
>>539749676
>>539749902Sage is a DILD.
>>539740485IDW is not credited in TSR for the comic. It's worth noting that this section shows everyone they're collaborating with including all the store that are allowing decals for cars. So it's pretty likely we can get an IDW logo as a decal and maybe if they're going the extra mile with the tie-in comic, decal stickers of IDW characters.
>>539750185Daughter I love to draw?
WHERE'S THE NEXT THREAD
>>539750341This is the last one.
>>539750256Not quite.
>who refuse to accept alternative interpretations to the point they'll fight tooth and nail all day longbut we accept them lol you just want validation and cry when people called them OOC because its from an AU/different mediaWith movies and comics adaptations happen the same is just that movietards are the majority so the comicsfags just cope
>>539740942>>539742059>>539740247>>539740037>>539739238>>539734507>>539734247>>539732614Jesus fucking christ when are you people going to understand that in Japanese they use the same word (Sekai) for fucking everything. Whether it's a timeline difference or an actual different dimension, they all get called "another world" because for them that word has different meaning depending on context. The Forces screw up is on the localizers, none of the japanese fans were every under the impression that the event of classic weren't the past. This is a english community only sentiment because when they see the term "world" they think it's literally a separate place. This anon is actually correct >>539737352.Blaze's dimension? SekaiSilver being from the future? SekaiAriem's dream world? SekaiClassic Sonic being from the past? SekaiIt's not about headcanons or any of that bullshit, English is just a fuck that caused unnecessary confusion in Forces that SOA decided to play along with since everyone made a big fuss about it when the reality is nothing actually changed.
>>539750924Alternate reality.
Can I post a picture of Honey? I just have one for now.
>>539750924I don't care. Classic being its own dimension makes more sense because it is different from how it was in the 90s even within Generations itself and making it its own thing that isn't tied to a timeline gives it more freedom to evolve and explore its own direction. If there HAS to be a split that goes beyond their appearances it's better to keep them as separate universes.
>>539750987Is it ass?
>>539750987Yes, you may.
>>539751096No, I think it's pretty cute.>>539751105Thank you.
>>539751049It's fine if that's what you want, I'm clearing up this retarded sentiment that's been plaguing english fans since forces. It may be better to make it be it's own thing, but the reality is it never has or was or was ever changed in that sense.
>>539751105Casual reminder that Eggman is extraordinarily wealthy. Like he might genuinely be the richest person in sonics world.
>>539751178It's good that you point out the language issue, but in Forces they pretty much treat Classic Sonic as its own character though. They acknowledge that there is a difference. I do think they were at the very least trying to make it a split timeline thing to fix the continuity issues Generations creates.
>>539751209Then why hasn't he paid the chaotics yet for the events of heroes? I used to joke about him paying them in forces and that money funded the resistance, but crosswords confirmed he still hasn't paid them. think that also debunks the Japanese script saying he would give them half the world after her conquers it.
>>539751282Treating him like his own character is not the same as changing it so he's actually separate entity from a completely different universe. The game is just not about focusing on the past (despite the overuse of past locations). He's functionally just another pop in and out character like Silver in that game. Someone the rest of the cast already knows and remembers. That being said, if there was intent to fix continuity errors, it definitely was not dwelled on for long and was probably a push from SOA's side.
>>539751432He's a dick
>>539751680>and was probably a push from SOA's sideI doubt it. Pretty much everything in Forces is designed to regain fan trust by copying the games that came before SoA got much more control (Lost World). They just failed very badly.
Sonic needs to stop bullying Shadow
Thread doko?
>>539752079/fast/
>>539749864If he was truly omnipotent he would'nt lose, that's an antifeat
>>539752294>>539752294>>539752294>>539752294
>>539752196Secret extra boss isn't the same as final boss. This also ignores like half of the 2000s games.
>>539723920Get them out of this awful franchise
