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>News
Agent Record | Yidhari
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205
Agent Record | Komano Manato
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172
Agent Record | Lucia
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818
Version 2.2 Special Program
https://youtu.be/-WZRmhZWcfU

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demo
https://youtu.be/-m6kXWPwlls
https://youtu.be/QKJj_AUOMTY (EN)
https://youtu.be/B42cNUVgzWU (JP)
https://youtu.be/yVudzVUiBBQ (EN)
https://youtu.be/pqOJai2C7S0 (JP)
https://youtu.be/LENKDAuyIwc (EN)
https://youtu.be/67IxXAtJelE (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 2.2
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/159176
All-New Program 09/03 - 10/14
Floral Voyage Into the Unknown 09/03 - 10/13
Band of Brave Bangboo 09/05 - 10/13
Wish Bottle Adrift 09/05 - 09/29
Spotlight Showdown 09/13 - 09/29
Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 09/18 - 09/23
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/24 - 10/14
Problem Soldier Boot Camp 09/24 - 10/09
Rhythm Rave 09/29 - 10/13
"En-Nah" Treasure Hunt 10/04 - 10/13
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/09 - 10/14

>Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZ22OBOLSQUAD

>Resources and useful links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://interknot-network.com

>/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread):
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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superc&c <3
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>>539808642
finally a based OP
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>>539808642
finally a good OP
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Komano love!
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>>539808660
I don't have wengines...
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Sex with Wise
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Is it thread time?
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I love my cute, genki, FAT-ASSED wife Burnice!
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How many ORPHIE rolls do you have currently
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>>539808642
FUARK
MY COOL CHARACTER
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First time I've baked bread, hope I did alright and didn't mess up the links.
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Bunny cunny!
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>>539809010
that anon is lying anyway
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Thank god, a good OP that isn't a chink bitch, based billybro.
seed is good too
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>>539809010
Even if you had them, they're not taking you from 20k to 55k
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>Yenless Yen Zero
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'tis new Lighter/Orphie gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1HBwoiPoeA
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>>539809034
Manato...
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>>539809034
Daily.
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>>539809090
One of the two EN voices I like alongside Belle
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will Orphie & Magus be able to defeat Iuno?
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>>539809034
calm down Astra
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>>539809050
whores > prudes
i would take an american bimbo over a sensitive do nothing afraid to hold hands in public asian prude of a woman
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Orphie and Magus Best Builds

Orphie and Magus DPS Build

Best W-Engine
ZZZ - Bellicose Blaze Bellicose Blaze
Alt. W-Engines
1. ZZZ - Severed Innocence Severed Innocence
2. ZZZ - Gilded Blossom Gilded Blossom
3. ZZZ - Marcato Desire Marcato Desire
4. ZZZ - Lunar - Noviluna Lunar - Noviluna
Drive Disc Build
Shadow Harmony IconShadow Harmony (4-pc)
Swing Jazz IconSwing Jazz (2-pc)
Disc Main Stats 6: Energy Regen
5: ATK
4: ATK or CRIT Rate
Disc Substats CRIT Rate, CRIT DMG, ATK
This build focuses on Orphie and Magus' Aftershock DMG. Energy Regen is needed to increase the ATK buff from Orphie's Core Skill. As for her other stats, ATK and CRIT are nice for her personal damage.


Is this true do I need to farm energy regen
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since i'm skipping sneed, orphie, yidhari and lucia. might as well build my harumasa.
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>>539809289
Im getting her day one
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>>539809289
Did you get this from an AI? Why does your post read like this?
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>>539809034
He is to be cherished.
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>>539809034
Every girl in New Eridu..
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>>539809034
*and Belle.
I look like this and say this btw.
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>>539809395
No I copy pasted a wiki page i found
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>>539809503
woa...
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>>539809503
You look like Belle?
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HE is online, discussing the orphie buffs 3 days before release
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>>539809660
HIM?
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>>539809186
So 30k against priest and 40k against Pompey. Maybe another 5k each with optimal disks and rotations. Pretty decent, honestly.

Not big on the choice of music for this one, though.
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>>539809409
>>539809503
Me on the right
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>>539809660
>>539809804
HIMOTHY WILLIAMS
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We never saw Blaze before in ZZZ?
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>>539809523
> Pulls a turd out of a toilet.
> "HEY, can I eat this???"
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>>539809289
she converts energy regen to attack
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Can I date Magus?
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>>539810008
BIGGER
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>>539809157
hello, are we still having the anime watch stream???? Also are you skipping all the future character???
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Grok type me a fanfiction about Anby and Soldier 0 fighting over what to eat for dinner then having passionate sex
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we need more agents that look like this
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>>539809059
Way more than enough, but I only ever roll for characters once and never roll for engines.
I'm getting her even if the gacha fucks me over, though.
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HP inflations is quickly killing this game
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>>539810075
Yes close your eyes
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>No more collecting HIA medals for Sage in a Barrel
>No more Officer Mewmew tasks
>No more side commissions for Venus
There's nothing to do in this shitty game
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seedbwos i wanna pull her, but i cant because of the heckin japan ios charts
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>>539809523
That explains it. Anyways, yes, you want ER. But you can only get from main stat on 6 or a weapon
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>>539810225
How so?
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>>539809883
How else and I supposed to get information on how to build characters
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>>539810483
Inflation is a shit fetish therefore HP Inflation is shit and should be removed
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>>539810354
anby wouldnt say this she eat burger and be happy
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>>539810354
>no more TV
>no more hard versions of missions for more poly
>no more urban aestheic outfits
>still zero answers about Fairy's origins
>still zero mentions about the OG VHs
>still zero mentions about the fucking moon
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>>539810398
Too bad bwo, unless they charts make over 5 Zenzillion bucks you're not allowed to roll
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>>539810354
The game lost its way a long time ago, they're parading a carcass around at this point.
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>>539810225
I don’t know how bad it is for others, but I’ve gotten filtered by the hp bloat in this patch specifically. I could feel it creeping up in 2.1 and now they’re accelerating to HI3 speed powercreep. My 1 year old achefly teams and 2-3 year old genshin teams still clear everything in the other games.
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>>539810008
The perfect woman...
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Why waste money on pulls for a virtual character when you could have them in real life?
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>>539810483
My Seed is a brick that's how
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AIEEEE!!! ORPHIE BRROOOSS!!??????
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>>539810960
thank to HIM
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>>539810819
Imagine being stuck behind her in the pipe and sniffing her ass while rubbing your dick on her feet. That would be so funny hahaha
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>>539810483
A rank agents and 1.X agents can no longer clear and thats gonna kill off the morale of most players to keep playing
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>>539809059
140 plus I'm buying the big pack on her banner. Mostly to save it, but I'll spend it on her if I need to. I don't think she really needs her ball though since gilded blossom is pretty good for her.
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>>539810960
It's just a small quality of life buff concerning how her abilities lead into quick-assists. It's nice, but not really a game-changer.
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>>539810851
Hp inflation is not real and A ranks can clear just fine.
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>>539811086
You're not jstern25. I don't have to listen to you!!!
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>>539810960
She has a bunch of anti-synergy that needed ironing
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>>539810893
That has very little to do with HP. The current buffs just favor SS Anby and Orphie over her.
And even then, it's easy enough to get 20k points with a teammate that barely uses the buffs too like Harumasa.
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>>539810096
I don't know about the anime stream... I was too tired and ended up reading manga in my bed
Now stop shitposting and play the game!!! As for future characters I'll wait!!!
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>>539810867
I got tired of the maintenance, and I live in a dry environment so dust build up happens too quickly and too often for my liking.
Maybe when we get self-cleaning robos or home sanitation pods that don't cost $30k+, I'll think of it.
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>>539810657
>the moon
That's just Kianna, don't think about it too hard.
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>>539810483
Bricking 1.X characters when your 2.X characters are all vastly inferior designs so far is going to alienate the majority of the remaining playerbase eventually
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>>539811189
But my Seed can't win. My seed can only buff another attacker to win, who I do not own.
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>>539811046
Calm down anon
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>>539810851
The buffs are awful this DA round
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SEEDS SLOW ASS BRICK BANNER IS *deep breath*
KILLING THE FUCKING GAAAAAAAYYYYMMMMEEE!!!!!
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>>539811097
Even the cunning hares clearing YouTuber acknowledges that the powercreep is bad. He could just barely shell out a 20k with perfect builds and doesn’t expect to get a 20k in the next rotation.
https://youtu.be/CfwWK9iUMCo?si=OExQ1mwTu4IfnAB9
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>>539810657
Sunbringer has been mentioned a few times in the last few patches. Seed even implied she's still alive but she probably wasn't being serious.
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WHY DID I WASTE 5 MONTHS BUILDING A 5-STAR DICKSUCKING LIPS WHEN
FUCKING SOUKAKU NEEDS 5-STAR GAMEBALL
FUCKING LUCIA NEEDS 5-STAR GAMEBALL
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Belle looks really cute when she's sad
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Tick tock zoocucks, humiliation is fast approaching.
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>>539811549
4th flop in a row? lol

both zzz and wuwa are dying
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Should we have a Bocchi the rock watch party
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segs with shifu...
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>>539811046
>t.
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>>539811053
Anby is 1.X. So is Trigger, Vivian, Miyabi, Yanagi, Astra, Evelyn and Lighter.
Nicole is good, people still use Soukaku, Pulchra is pretty competent. I've seen people beat the Defiler with Seed + Billy or Corin.
The game not being too easy does not mean that you can't make the best of what you have.
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>>539811272
You don't have a 2nd attacker (e.g. Nekomata or Harumasa)? When did you start playing? DA is end game, you could always settle for 14k points for now.
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>>539811549
Isn't Iuno shaping up to sell less than Alice did, at this rate?
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They should give Fairy a body already
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>>539811435
You know why...
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>>539811275
>>539811702
I NEED her so fucking much… okay I’m swiping and saving her banner
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>>539810008
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>>539811272
You don't own Harumasa?
Still, you can even use Nekomata to beat that particular boss. As long as you know the mechanics.
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>>539811827
only if she bullies belle with it.
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>>539811694
that's a man
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>>539811435
What exactly is an attribute counter?
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>>539811235
At this rate we will never have our anime stream again!!!! Are you making 1 week worth of food again???
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>>539811918
Goodluck!
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>>539811389
That's sad. The cunning hares should be the standard for which mihoyo balances all content. If they can't S rank clear or 3 star it or whatever the metric is, the hp bloat is too far.
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>>539811616
>both zzz and wuwa are dying
You talk like they're the only ones.
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>>539811549
>SAAARSSS
lmao
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>>539812341
>big tiddy elf flopped
I know gacha is dying but that's still pretty surprising. She had some decent hype for weeks.
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>>539810856
Fixed
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>>539811940
We need this for ZZZ.
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>>539812234
I don't agree that 9 stars should be balanced around a full team of A-rank units. This is a gacha and they need to make money. However, if it's not clearable with an M0W0 limited S-rank unit, then we have a problem.
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Only Honkai Star rail remains ……………. the true revenue makers for mihomo
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Even redditors are tired of the devs shit.
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>>539812530
Why are you guys even pretending that iOS sales are everything? Limited to Japan at that. And with these games that barely play on mobile.
Genshin's banner has been doing so solid on Playstation that wuwu's couldn't take #1 even on debut compared to their week old one.
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>>539812819
why were you looking through reddit for a comment to post
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i wish the singapore chink would kill himself already and stop flooding the thread every day with falseflags and bait
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>>539812593
ZZZ
I miss 2010 giant bomb :(
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They buffed Orphie because Seed underperformed and it’s their last gamble to boost revenue because they know next patch is a skip until bunny wife which they want to make at least 15+ mil
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2.0 is the sacrificial season, phoned in with reduced manpower so they devote most of their team to main g 3.0 good.
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>>539812831
I don't think that iOS sales are everything. I do think that iOS sales are a valid sample size of player base and you extrapolate a decrease in revenue overall when indicated by such a chart.
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>>539812903
we should let britian die to muslims and jeets for teaching them and SEA english. they've cursed their great grandchildren to suffer them
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>>539811549
NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>539813060
Not pulling Orphie because you're actually pulling for Magus.
Stupid talking gun does 80% of the talking, and 90% of the fighting. What even is the point of Orphie?
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>>539812593
Why are all Kuro games characters always monochromes with a bit of colors?
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>>539812152
Weakness.
If Lucia damage "ether weak" opponent with ether damage, she buffs Yixuan with 20% crit rate, Yixuan then destroys the etherweak.

If Soukaku damage "ice weak" opponent with ice damage, she buffs Yidhari or Miyabi with 20% crit rate, they then destroy the ice weak.

Tip:
Agents like Lucy can apply both Fire damage and Phys damage, so she can apply Gameball buff to both Fire weak opponents and Phys weak opponents.
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>>539812530
Pricing is fucked for Genshin in Japan bwo. It's kind of amazing they even manage to beat us despite that debuff.
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>>539813114
>they made their game worse for an entire year on purpose!
That's pretty unreasonable. I'd rather assume that there was internal restructuring and the new creatives joining zzz in year 2 merely need some time to find their footing
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Lucia should have been an Oni
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>>539813463
Lucia should have been a big tittied nun.
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>>539812632
I think end game should be balanced around my own roster. It should be difficult enough to feel challenging, but not so difficult that I start to struggle.
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bros...wuwa...won...
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>>539813626
Why do all wuwa characters look the exact same?
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>>539813726
because you're trans and you have a gaping open wound where your dick should be
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>>539813626
Kino...
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>>539813901
I'm not trans and I think they all look the same. Why roll on the same looking boring character? Do wujeets even question this? Don't you want your game to be better?
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>>539811787
>Alice out of nowhere
It'd between Iuno feet and Seed feet, and Iuno is tracking way more than Seed.
Sit down and be fucking humble.
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>>539813626
>>539813901
>>539813980
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>>539812632
Any content that rewards polychromes should be clearable with the starter team imo. Roll for agents to get faster clears and higher scores and other lesser rewards and oftentimes the agent's gameplay itself is an incentive to roll, so I don't think there's an issue there. You're right that 9 stars isn't necessary though since you only need 6 for the polychromes. Still, if you let hp inflation continue then you're bound to lose even 6 stars for f2p teams eventually.
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do the wukeks know we play both games and this is pointless
i have the elf already i don't need iuno
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Tell her she's allowed in.
Do it.
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>>539814041
you sit down, wuwajeet
cant even beat hoyo gachas lmao, failure
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>>539814184
she'll break all records (and my dick)
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>>539813726
Why do all ZZZ females look the same? The males look different, but they're all gay furries which is fucking insane lol.
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>>539812632
>they need to make money
there's a dozen ways to do it and they only bank on new units.
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>>539814269
Bibi love!
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>>539814184
The idols are going to save ZZZ.
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>>539814098
300 polys every 2 weeks is nothing. Deadly Assault is dogshit and not worth the effort. I get 9 stars, but is it worth redoing a fight over and over struggling? Fuck no.
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>>539814269
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NVIK_rpihiA
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>>539814276
This is the dumbest angle you can take but then I wouldn't expect whatever flavor of brown or third world you are to understand that
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>>539814269
>red as fuck eyes
that's gonna be a no from me
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>>539813726
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He says.
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>>539814276
>Wh-ACK
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>>539814440
He's right thoughbeit.
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>>539814417
Sex with Nicobibi
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I only fuck Thirens
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>>539814480
wujeet owned
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>>539814576
based
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>>539814462
Is this the AI generated design era of ZZZ?
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are they ever gonna stop talking non-stop in the middle of combat? I play with JP audio so I have to dodge enemies and hide to read this shit in the story
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>>539814658
SARRS!
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>>Why do all wuwa characters look the exact same?
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>>539814480
The actual craziest part is that the left designs genuinely look more alike than the right.
It's the clothes. They're different, but... Not?
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>>539814642
Blessed Cipher
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>>539813121
You can extrapolate a decrease in mobile fucking players when the other platform clearly shows that the revenue moved there.
Why would someone with money to blow on gacha choose to stick to an awful phone instead of buying a cheap PS4/5? Not even counting PC.
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Chaos Jazz is really good for Seth AP build.
I wish people told me sooner.
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>>539814720
>>539814703
kek
wuwajeets are hypocrites
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>>539814576
Based and same
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>>539812819
> -7 votes
The hive mind did not seem to agree with him lmao.
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>>539814691
Don’t talk shit about Ciaccona.
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>>539814915
How do they tell all these samey characters apart??
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>>539813327
Orphie is only good for her body.
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>>539814691
Galbrena alone will mog the entire ZZZ 2.X characters bro
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>>539814670
This has been an issue since release. I doubt they will ever think this through. I wonder why they even bother to records those lines if normal gameplay simply results in skipping them anyway.
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>>539812980
I fucking love ellen
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>Why do all wuwa characters look the exact same?
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can ellen say thigga
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>>539814915
for me it's
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>>539812579
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>>539815087
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>>539815156
Ah yes, the clones and the theorized relative. Daring today, aren't we?
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What does Orphies icon look like
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>>539815156
my wives
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Maybe if we got second half story missions back again then we could have more to talk about than wuwa and sales charts.
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>>539815156
>>Why do all wuwa characters look the exact same?
take the L wuwajeet lmao
so easy to BTFO you mongols
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Wuwa won
Wu won
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>>539814915
>all the cool looking men and women are a rank minus Alto
There's no way I'd play this game, also why is the angry redhead girl with a giant flaming sword a fucking wind element.
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>Orphie is unironically weaker than fucking SEED
>even in a Sanby team who she was specifically designed for
LMAOOO
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>>539815150
How is she still getting some of the best art to this day? Not complaining
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>>539815156
Shitposting aside this webm shows that all three are visually distinct despite sharing a color palette and that's a pretty good sign of good designers
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>>Why do all wuwa characters look the exact same?
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>>539815312
It looks like Orphie.
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>>539815509
> He doesn't know about the S-Anby buffs
I guess the orphie slander will be coming early
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>>539814915
wuwa sidegamer here. here are the good characters. hope this helps
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>>539815168
I don't think Eleanor Jaws is urban.
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seed GODDAMN fucking flopped
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>>539815587
>>539815156
>>539814703
>>539814462
Wow, calling you brown and thirdworld really caused you to spam this cherrypicked shit. Taking your game doing poorly as a personal insult doesn't say much about your life lmao.
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>>539815716
good news
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>>539815564
Because she is actually a fan favorite
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hold the fuck up niggers you all said seed was bad
must be the prydwen troonies
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>>539815587
>>>Why do all wuwa characters look the exact same?
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Giving back massage to Shifu
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>>539815974
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>>539815509
I said it before >>539591550 >>539590315
>Sanby Seed > Orphie Seed = Orphie Sanby
>The funniest part of Sanby and Seed shitflinging is that after Sanby's buffs, they're best used together. Not Orphie.
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>>539815978
How would she scold me if I sniffed her ass?
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>>539809034
hugo and lycaon at the same time...
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>>539815724
>Taking your game doing poorly as a personal insult doesn't say much about your life lmao.
Day 3 sales vs day 16 sales.
You zoocucks just love being humiliated, you even set it up yourselves. Priceless
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Why they don't put these insert songs inside the game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuUmQLXoy_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuUmQLXoy_U
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Bros...Im in love.
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>>539816145
ya im skipping orphie and picking up sanby on her rerun in 2.3 unless they reveal a better attacker for seed in 2.4
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>>539816385
aww look the widdle zoomie jeet with no life thinks this hurts me lmfao
newsflash brownie, I don't give a shit I just wanted to point out you're a loser, a failure and your game's designs suck
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>>539816145
>The funniest part of Sanby and Seed shitflinging is that after Sanby's buffs,
False. Pee buffs I can see that happening, post buffs, Orphie is much better than Seed for S-Anby
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110 impact
111 AM
305 AP
That's the best I can do for you littlebro.
Yuzuha's buff and i own buff can do the rest.
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>>539816561
This is pre-HP nerf >>539808660
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>>539816561
Forgot to mention, because I know it will come up, the orphie comp is all M0W1.
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>>539815582
Technically, Shifu is gold while Harin and Anby are orange.
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>>539816568
I just built him full attack despite playing with jane
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I will never forgive the zzz community for making Alice flop
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>>539816534
NTA but I gotta say you're pretty good at shit talking. How do you do it?
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>>539816772
ATK is for when you want big shield. It's the best build for new players.

AP Seth is for edgelords who want maximum damage for Yanagi and Jane.
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>>539816513
Mickey-mousey character
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>>539816886
Alice won though wuwajeet
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ZZZ deserves to flop. The rates are shit. I lost 4 50/50s in a row.

Fuck this game.
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>>539817004
Kek, reminds me
>12 ANNIVERSARY BANNERS
>VS
>1 VIVIAN
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>>539816983
>maximum damage for Jane.
you run DOGSHIT and Yuzuha for that
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>>539816513
Zhao, my beloved.
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>>539816513
Sonic-ass character.
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>>539816698
What does that matter? I'm showing the same player doing the same boss with a higher investment Seed than Orphie and she still can't go above her. You can make the argument that the seed run was ass if you want, but your pic doesn't really say anything in of itself
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>>539817146
If you have them, sure.
But also if you just wamt some gameplay variety.
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i always knew wise has aura
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>>539817364
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>>539816534
You seem to give enough shit to mass reply a bunch of cmts and then post this.
Wuwa broke you, inferiority complex bro.
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>>539817318
nta but literally it means the player making the videos has a severe skill issue and the orpheus team is easier to play thats all lmao
the seed sanby astra team already has a 65k kill on youtube before sanby buffs
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>>539816513
https://files.catbox.moe/2i726i.mp4
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>>539816145
>This lie again
Seed is bis for no one and that will never change
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>>539817445
>Wuwa broke you
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>>539817353
Seth sucks shit to use
You know that gameplay is shit when supports feel better to use
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>pulls phone
>waves surge
>tumbles onto wise
>weewoo weewoo arc flying
I had to reread once twice and I still don't understand what this is supposed be
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Shifu rabu
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>>539816941
Because I say this shit irl to people and have been in fights. I can tell when what I say bothers somebody and I can tell when who I'm talking to is a gigantic bitch.
The other part is if you know your life is that much better than the guy you're talking to it comes through with what you say, for example you really think some thirdie whose whole life is shilling wuwa lifts or gets laid? You think they can even afford to roll in ZZZ? The answer is no lol
tl;dr
get good at life, get good at reading people, get good at talking normally.
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>>539816983
i play crit seth tho
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>>539814480
WHACK
always gets me, like swatting brown shit flies.
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>>539816983
How's Seth's anomaly buildup? I've never given it attention, though I noticed he has a few things that increase it in his Mindscapes and I think engine.
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>>539817595
>So mad he has to open the /pol/ folder
Yep, concession accepted.
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>>539817318
This >>539817448 and the run is ass
>wastes time with Seed ult pre-daze window
>cancels 2 chains to eat up Sanby's mark
>Astra ult when the window's ending
All this just a 3rd through. Seed Sanby is harder to optimise and play than any Orphie team the same way that it's easier to play Trigger than lets say Nicole
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Know the difference.
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>>539817804
>concession accepted
glad we agree that wuwa is garbage lmao
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>Nicole
>NTR
Incredible how you managed to fuck it up with the very first pick.
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>>539816513
they cannot contain my lust for long, she better be in 2.4
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ENTER
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>>539817757
Damn. I guess I have to stop being a neet then
Thanks for sharing <3
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>>539817935
nta but using Seed's ult before the stun was the correct move, it'd only give him a 15% damage boost and take up too much field time that Sanby would rather have
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>>539817445
wuwa sucks so bad i can only stomach it for like 2 weeks at a time and skipping half the dialogue.
currently left off on elf and skippaaing all of that stupid dead bitch phrog
dont care glad she died lol
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>>539817951
Caesar is vanilla coded
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>>539818019
Glad we can agree that zoo is so garbage that we both spam off-topic pictures in its general all the time.
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>>539818085
MY HEROES... and Soldier 11.
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>>539818260
Torigah...
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>>539818216
>b-but your general
nice dead general then wuwajeet, that tripfag on /v/ is doing his best to shill wuwashit lmao
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true chads don't pay heed to the whispers of lesser men
i do what i want
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>>539818119
Usually the best way is during one of the chain attacks or even have it be the attack to trigger it as it also means that you can squeeze an additional punch in if the meter gain post ult fills it up the whole way.
The other big thing that the tester isn't doing is throwing Astral on Seed and Moonlight on Astra which ends up being another huge buff to Sanby without gutting Seed all that much
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>>539818214
Most artists disagree with you.
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>who am i
>why am i here
>can we go eat hot noodles
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>>539817951
Vivian is obviously NTR-coded. The idea is that she finds someone bigger and better than the proxy phaeton, who was just starting to return her feelings.
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did anyone manage to export this image? its cute
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>>539818515
Artists disagree because of her body, not her character
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>>539818629
The whole quest was kino
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>>539818519
At the end of sanby's story they said s11 was back to how she was before she got injured and then when she appeared in 2.2 she was retarded as if she was still being treated for the injury
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>>539809186
Ill use him with Lucia hope its good
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Do you think NTRcucks are even aware of any of the characters' personalities?
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>>539818768
>>539818545
NTR has to do with bodytype/aesthetic, not personality.
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>>539818545
That's not even why she likes Phaethon in first place though
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>>539818967
NTR doesn't need to make perfect sense
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>>539817443
why is Belle so stacked here?
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>NTR coded
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>>539818967
>engaging with pure raw delusional cucks
>expecting any kind of canon
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>>539818194
Know this is story telling!!!
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>>539818932
>NTR is just a braindead gooning fetish for retards
Alright, thanks for clarifying
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>>539818519
rape coded
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>>539819051
Finally, art where Wise looks like me
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>>539808642
Best thread with best bot.
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>>539818869
Apparently not
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>>539819282
So far this thread has been pretty fucking shit though
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>>539819159
tfw no gf
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>>539817951
astra is very obviously ntr coded. Famous beloved idol, who goes on fancy meeting with producers and evelyn has to drink in her place since they keep trying to spike her drink? There's not a more UB coded character than astra
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>>539810008
built for extraterrestrial beings
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>>539808642
Based for making footrannies seethe.
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>>539819508
You're right but the same time it depends on how you look at it. Is it Astra being ntr'ed from Evelyn or the other way around? Traditionally, characters like Everlyn are more represented in ntr stories, she has all the checks of a ntr heroine (stuck-up personality, insta loss bait, pawg, hot blonde, etc) but overall I think Astra is mostly in line with characters like Vivian, though she indeed shares the ntr bodytype with the others.
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do you think we'll get a special survey this patch with tons of Seed related questions with which the devs try to understand why she flopped so massively?
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>Release a support for 2 dps agents
>Those agents are better together than with said support
Bravo, another giga flop.
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>>539818085
I LOVE THEM
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>>539816513
You'll get the soundpost right next time bwo
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>>539820010
She obviously didn't flop. Seed did more than well on the platforms with more players.
The fandom liked her a lot too.
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Astra is appearently NTR bait because... she has someone who makes sure she never gets raped and also because she's canonically in love with the male protagonist. Makes sense.
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>>539820181
that's huge
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>>539820181
israel
it's more important that it starts up faster and leads into ba5 faster though
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this FAT WHORE keeps snacking when no one is looking!
correction is necessary!
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What about second rerun?
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>>539820456
I hope he does in 2.5
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>>539820326
Do you even know what ntr entails? Because that's the perfect scenario for an impactful ntr.
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>>539820491
Why would TOPS do this?
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>>539820491
I find it funny people don't meme it with Eren's shot in the neck
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>>539820584
>it's a perfect scenario because it cannot happen
Yup, makes sense to me!
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>>539820314
This. It's the same for Lighter, he's definitely the the most sold character in the platforms with more players.
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>>539820369
It already lead pretty fast to the last hit of her BA chain. Though a nice thing that I recently learned is that her special without energy hits decently hard, so it's better to use her energy on-field. And using her this was also generates more energy, thus letting her use her meter more often.
Orphie is going to be strong.
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>seed
>orphie
>lucia
>yidhari
this is the worst string of banners in zzz history
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>>539820791
>"counting or not counting gang violence"
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>>539820836
This. I love my bros Lighter and Hugo, both very successful banners.
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>>539820601
>>539820810
What are they feeding the teenagers in New Eridu?
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>>539820916
I'm glad you understand but you said some words wrong
>AFTERSHOCK without energy hits hard
>using this way generated more HEAT
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>>539820929
its like they knew i needed trigger and evelyn's engines kek
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>>539820491
>“Do you know how many people died to Ethereals over the last 10 years?” the man asked.
>Sarah leaned forward and picked up her mic before setting back into an upright position. “Counting or not counting illegal Hollow raids?” she said.
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>>539820601
>>539820810
They're 14. Stop trying to put a child in a child
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>>539820836
I know Lighter did pretty well, but I can't say I paid attention to Hugo.
Not that I ever go out of my way to check, but it was posted how he was doing way better over there. It was a trend with the SoC how they consistently sold worse on iPhone, but better in Playstation.
And now we have Xbox too, but that's definitely the lowest platform.
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>>539820314
The thing is devs expected her to blow up as much as Miyabi and Yixuan. They even gave her 2 models in 1 character and a 7 minutes animated short. Well her banner blew up, but into smithereens.
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>>539821076
Yes, her off-field special. Sorry.
But I did mean energy. Her BA should generate some, which should be a significant improvement over letting her use all of her energy with her aftershocks.
Though her EX aftershock also groups, so it might help more against mobs.
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>>539821580
This game does a terrible job at hyping the characters. Yixuan's entire hype is "she's miyabi tier" and that's it.

Manato is how you hype a character and they lost money by making him A Rank
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>>539821767
I wanted to laugh out loud the moment I read Manato, but... yeah, they did more to hype him up than Seed (or Lucia or Yidhari).
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>>539821580
>question related to animation
>replied with how Miyabi Yixuan and Seed were challenging
>"devs expected her to blow up as much as Miyabi and Yixuan"
Are all salestroons this retarded
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>>539820398
They're so cute.
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>>539821580
Someone already explained that to you, but Seed was compared to those in how challenging was for the devs to make her visuals perfect like they always want to.
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>>539821914
Is his tongue a dick? What the fuck am I looking at?
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>>539820394
I will enable her
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>>539821914
i don't like this image very much.
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>>539821914
what the fuck is happening here
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>>539821292
Ellen's about to graduate, so she's 17/18. No idea about Alice or Yuzuha
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>>539821914
This makes me uncomfortable
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>>539822213
>so she's 17/18.
is that supposed to make it better? Stop trying to put a child in a child
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>>539821883
>>539821937
Except the interview was explicitly about how people highly anticipated Miyabi and Yixuan, so devs put in similar effort to match the community hype. Or did you really believe that... they invested time and money into special 3D rigs for Seed Sr and Flora on her scooter, plus an animated short, for a character they expected to just do "average"?
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eye cleaners
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If she can bleed she can breed
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>>539822067
bro is pain from naruto lmao
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>>539822313
I have no skin in this game, I'm simply correcting wrong information
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>>539822316
>doomjet cant read AGAIN
kek
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>>539822316
>match the community hype
What hype? The turd was utterly shat on for multiple days straight the nanosecond the drip dropped, in fact it's still being shat on 5 weeks later but apparently shills get off to public humiliation
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>>539822316
>doesn't post the question which would instantly prove you wrong
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>>539816145
>>Sanby Seed > Orphie Seed = Orphie Sanby
Do you have any math to back this up? I only trust spreadsheets.
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>Everyne saiyng they just buffed the shit out of Orphie in the betta
>Aniamtions changed and everything
>Nobody posting animations or numbers
Leakers are so dumb
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>>539822574
>Seed has a lot of anticipation from people
>So we put in more effort into her
>Miyabi, Yixuan, and Seed were adjusted multiple times
>Also, here's an animated short for Seed
>BUT DON'T WORRY, WE EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN. IT'S FINE IF WE WASTED MONTHS OF WORK FOR AVERAGE REVENUE
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>>539822615
Dad! It's over bro!
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>start zzz last year
>S11 is my first S Rank
>really like her
>look forward to Obol squad
>Trigger drops and really like her too
>2.0 trailer
>Seed and Orphie hype at max
>Seed and Orphie patch
>don't want either of them
what a let down.
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>>539822067
Yuzuha is barfing in his mouth
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And this is before Orphie's buff, you antiobol bitches are going to shit blood.
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>>539822316
An animated short is not unheard of for a first banner character.
If Lucia is nothing special, I fully expect whoever's next to have one.
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2.2 has been skip patch and i'll skip 2.3 as well.
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>>539821642
The knife is like 3 energy. It doesn't really matter. I'd say it's better to not randomly swap her on field for just that. If there's time for it anyways, sure, but otherwise you just lose out. Gotta do it 10 times before you get one extra use of her ex..
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>>539822960
Is this after the S-Anby buff?
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>>539822960
literally nobody cares, you can clear with A ranks
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>>539822518
Do not post the superior Bob in those hideous halls
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>>539822798
>Aniamtions changed
But i liked her animations
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>>539822960
>Trigger 4p kos
Invalid. Calculations that assume things that aren't possible are nonsense. And yes, it's not possible for Trigger to use the Fufu set with permanent uptime.
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So is Orphie fun now? or still EX pump and dump character?
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>>539822960
>SAnby BTFO Seed that hard
What the fuck. I thought she was only closer, but still below Seed.
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>>539822990
>An animated short is not unheard of for a first banner character.
Guess what? The other two characters with animated short films are Miyabi and Yixuan.
https://youtu.be/MSncQJ-pRbM?si=YnUNdTCLpXZyrpeq
https://youtu.be/dJe0zuy7_6s?si=1DNXiW2WQQ9a1c9f
Seed's animated short film is even longer than Miyabi.
Zhenyu Li also mentioned they worked on Seed so much that even when attending an award ceremony, he still got on call with his team to work on Seed.
So much time and money were put into Seed, and retards still believe they expected her to do just "okay"?
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I will never forgive this playerbase for skipping Alice the bestest cutest loveliest zzz ever maded
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>>539823254
They're not calcs, it was some guys show his best score and letting you know what he was using lmao
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>>539819051
Melon22 = God
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If they made Seed more like Firefly and you control the mech in combat and maybe add like her cockpit in the top right corner more people would have rolled for her. It also didn’t help she is a dual DPS and not a primary powerhouse like Meebs
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>>539823063
Ah, then it's not like Ellen's BA. She generates so much energy it's crazy.
That's another reason she's pretty good with Seed.
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>>539823586
>So much time and money were put into Seed, and retards still believe they expected her to do just "okay"?
Obviously, retard. I don't know why they built her to fail, but they clearly did. And if I don't know I know (You) don't know.
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>>539823932
>She was set up to fail!
Really?
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use POSITIVE phrasing
>instead of "seed flopped"
>you should say "iuno won"
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Are CCniggers really salty about changes? fuckers are just gonna make other clickbait video for free fucking content.
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>>539822818
The question was
>Of all characters you've created so far, which one was the most difficult to create
Not
>"Except the interview was explicitly about how people highly anticipated Miyabi and Yixuan, so devs put in similar effort to match the community hype"
Disingenuous retard
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>>539823571
>SAnby BTFO Seed that hard
S-Anby is clearly weaker than Seed in the relatively same teams but this is before any S-Anby buffs or the recent Orphie Buff. S-Anby should be equal, if not slightly greater than, seed in the same Orphie + Stunner/Support team.
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PLAPKAKU READY!
120 AM
308 AP
With gameball 1-star, enough to give Mibibi 12% crit rate.
Low ATK, buff will only be at 849. Did I focus too much on AP, and not enough on ATK?
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Oh god I can't wait until Orphie banner so all the "Seed flopped" shit ends and the threads become normal again
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>>539824361
>When it comes to characters that people have high expectations for, we have to make a lot of adjustments during production
Means "When it comes to characters that people have high expectations for, we have to put in similar effort to meet their expectations."
Also read the text below that. He practically worked on Seed all the time.
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>>539824239
Think it's fire % optimally but atk % isn't that much of a loss
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>>539824520
> Press "x" to doubt
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Manato would have sold better than Seed btw
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>>539824572
No, it will be replaced with "Orphie is a brick and she's completely useless" discourse
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you guys are all retarded lmao
the actual seed BiS partner will come during her rerun, wait 4 patches
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>>539824582
>X were particularly difficult characters, and the development team made many adjustments to them
>2 flagship characters with a ton of effort into their animation and a 2 in 1 character for combat unlike anyone else up to that point
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I UNINSTALLED ZZZ on my phone because it took up so much space but still play it everyday on my puter
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>>539824895
based
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>>539824674
that's not a very high bar
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>>539824816
You're almost there. For what reason did they put so much effort on these characters? What determines how much focus a character gets?
Here's a clue:
>When it comes to characters that people have high expectations
>Characters with high expectations
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>>539824239
If you're using an attack buffer, DMG%. If not, ATK% is better.
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>miyabi
>animation effort
She looks like crap
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where da hwite hoes at
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>>539824239
I'm actually going with atk, and surely my lifestyle has something to do with it because mindscapes will alter the matchup.
you pick what you have less of. and she skips atk on 6, plus she has 100%dmg bonus when you add up core passive and 2x shadow harmony.
this "seems" like it outweighs the 700atk buff. but in my case she gets another 60%dmg from m1+m4 but only 20%atk from m2
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Axe agent when? Piper probably feel a little bit alone.
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>>539825209
trig is my aryan queen
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>>539824674
no he wouldn't. He would be the biggest flop like Lighter.
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>>539825257
Bwo they literally just showed Yidhari
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>>539825051
Not the question at all.
>>Of all characters you've created so far, which one was the most difficult to create
If they thought she was that anticipated they would've wanked her hard even before release. They're strictly talking about DIFFICULT characters to CREATE.
Seed being a literal 2-in-1 as well as on a scooter is up there with Miyabi/Yixuan in terms of all the fuckery with her animations.
You can act like you're braindead and retarded all you want. There's a reason disingenuous faggots like you are purposely spamming that picture without the question in it
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I hope orphie gets a comfy hoodie mod
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>>539825314
> Axe
Where?
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>>539825151
Compared to CBT Miyabi, she's on another level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVErGLzrtwk
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>>539825309
Damn, that a lof of cope in one low-quality jpeg
You lost btw
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>>539825252
I didn't read that but I wanna breed orphie
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https://files.catbox.moe/b6l0yk.jpeg
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FYI the character in patch 2.6 that is BiS for seed has the following passive:
electric attacker, whenever your teammates do an instance of electric damage restore 0.5 energy
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>>539824608
imagine being so brown you miss the entire outpost renovation for half a year
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>>539816568
Looks like I had my priorities warped.
I swapped their disc 4 and 6. AP stayed the same, but ATK got transferred to Soukaku, because her buff is better for amplifying the DPS.
Soukaku will now buff Mibibi with 925 ATK. Much better balanced.

Seth's shield shrinking a little bit is okay.
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>>539825257
She got axed
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Is it Looseea or Loocheea?
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>>539825873
First for EN
Second for JP
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>>539825454
10% mibabi moving 90% vfx crap flying around
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>>539824895
NOOOOO THINK ABOUT THE IOS SALES!!!!!!! WUCHADS WILL MAKE FUN OF US AGAIN
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>>539825873
LU - SEA - A
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Surely Zhao will be a new Krampus faction and the second banner will be another member of it.
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>>539825873
>Loocheea?
This one is how Italians say it.
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somethin' about orphie just aint sit right with me
idk whati ti s
but it makes her unappealing
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child sex
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>>539826082
who?
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I'm going to play with Orphie a bit more. I've been replaying her stages every now and then.
I love her combat voice lines, she's so cute.
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>>539826095
That's fine. More for me
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>>539826090
Wouldn't it need to be spelled Luccia?
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>>539826079
The black branch are all supposed to be OP, so they can get away with making her a lone wolf for now.
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Stupid brick only worth it for tail sniffing
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>>539826273
Why does a soldier dress like this
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>>539826082
He needs zhao to save him he’s so fucking mega trash without lighter
>both ice weak recurring bosses in DA are anomaly shills
The cherry on top
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>>539826247
Wormgo, Wormcaon's friend (he appeared in the Wormingbird storyline)
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>proxy saved vivian from ether corruption
>has tried to save 0 people from it since
why are we playing as an asshole?
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So PGR got DMC, what action game would we get a collab with?
Nier? Bayonetta?
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>>539826367
what does fufu tail smell like
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>>539826079
They will probably show up in 2.3 since it makes no sense to release just 1 of a faction member and not be able to get faction buffs from it.
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>>539826414
p sure they don't know how they saved vivian besides hugging and wishing for it rly hard?
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>>539826375
I don't see the problem
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>>539826490
Buttered popcorn
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>>539826414
They don't know how they did it
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>>539826513
so? now that the proxy can enter the hollow in person, they're even more able to hug people and wish for it really hard than ever before. they haven't even tried!
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>>539809236
Hard to say.
Orphie has very hot legs complemented by the erotic garter belt and the retard archetype (good).
Iuno on the other hand is straight up out in her underwear and is a footwhore with a mesugaki thing going.
It's all very close. The battle would be of biblical proportions.
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ZZZ devs released their CP characters way too late and lost out on sales already. Imagine the children if released in 2.0 and 2.1
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>>539826367
>>539826490
Super stinky smelly
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>>539826527
> I only have 48 rolls.
She will surely come home
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>>539826367
Why are the brickiest characters also the sexiest ?
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>>539826498
>and not be able to get faction buffs from it.
If you mean Bangboos, then Robin-type bangboos clearly already exist.
If you mean team synergy, they can just make her compatibilities generalised, like fitting with any stunner or any support.

We are not that far into the story that we need the entire TOPS law enforcers revealed. It's actually better to keep the others mysterious.
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>>539826693
Yeha i could have rolled the entire spook shack if these fuckers released pedo slop early
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>>539825430
>Not the question at all
Except it's very related to the question.
Here's the thing : difficult-to-make characters require time and effort to design and polish because ZZZ characters aren't equally important. For example if you say "Jufufu took as much effort as Yixuan". You'd get laughed at. Yixuan was certainly more difficult to develop than Jufufu, and devs took more care on developing her kit and animations than Jufufu.

But how do ZZZ devs determine which characters are worth the effort? Do they just pick randomly? Or do they rely on certain metrics to gauge interest and potential profits? This is where player expectation comes in. ZZZ devs determine which characters are worth adjusting/polishing by predicting which characters people have high expectations for. Seed used to be one of the highly anticipated characters, so they decided to invest their time and money into her.

So, when you say "it's not related at all" or "it's not the question at all" you dodged the underlying message that is "We intensively work on certain characters based on player expectations, and in return for the difficulty posed by their development processes, we're hoping that they'll sell". Arguing otherwise is being obtuse and shallow.
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>>539826703
>>539826564
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>>539826948
Grace is ugly despite being an entire brick house
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>>539814576
both beast and humanoid thirens?
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>>539827096
Standard characters cant be called bricks.
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>>539824895
jeetbros... we lost another one
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As a fellow ZZZ player you could say I am quite the CP enthusiast myself heh. $3000 set aside
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>>539827191
ok chud why do you keep calling her a brick then?
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>>539827357
I call her my wife.
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>>539826693
>Imagine the children
But I agree.

Releasing Chinatsu after Zhao will make people compare the 2. Chinatsu ends up looking like an adult.
It's the same reason Wuwa launch failed at launch. Their Nahida clone has the same problem Chinatsu is facing.
Nahida looked like a proper potato, the Wuwa clone looked like an adult fake loli.

So I'm actually worried about the Idol sales. Lolicons might reject them in the end.
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>>539808642
Femboy or futa agent when?
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>>539827473
Your Chinatsu ?
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>>539827473
Would the CCP even greenlight that?
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>>539826527
https://files.catbox.moe/t4bau4.webm
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>>539827589
idk about the ccp but chinese people love newhalfs/ladyboys especially since theres so much more dudes than women its like an adaptation
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>>539827589
just make up some imaginary futa race
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>>539827589
Not anymore. The era of Venti is long gone
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>>539827016
>For example if you say "Jufufu took as much effort as Yixuan"
If Jufufu's animations had an entirely different model to both fight as and fight along with as well as has a tricycle that she fights on then she'd very much be on the same difficult-to-make tier as Miyabi and Yixuan, who are on a tier of their own compared to most if not all characters, animations wise
>But how do ZZZ devs determine which characters are worth the effort?
1. flagship characters that are going to get wanked hard, IE Miyabi Yixuan
2. entirely new ideas, combat style, models, etc.
I'm willing to put money on that Zhao, by default, takes more effort than most characters because she's using a different model altogether.
They asked him regarding difficult to make characters and he gave exact examples of it
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>>539827596
> They specifically gave her more ass and allowed her to show off more
MODDERS! I NEED YOU!
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>>539827357
This bitch smells
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>>539827596
fat bitch
solod by trigger
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>>539827357
*SNIFFFFFF*
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>>539827772
I meant the cinematic has a better ass and less underwear. Obviously their true vision of the character
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>>539818458
Why do people who draw Piper in a bikini they make her flat?
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>>539827812
Why do you have to project, Rajeet?
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>>539827751
yeah ZZZ devs are even part of the faction that have avoided even shotas so hard to avoid making any designs look playable and not npc gen
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>no more side commissions
>no more story missions with the second half of the patch
why isn't this a more talked about issue?
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>>539827907
Idk, you tell me
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>>539827596
Damnit! Should I roll her C1, or should I save for Zhao C6?
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>>539827596
I LOVE WOMEN
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https://x.com/Bluemoon_cosv/status/1966472624688730221
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>>539828128
>C1
We use MxWx. I have no idea what a C is
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When are we getting this sexy girl as a playable character?
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>>539828227
Link to Ellen porn please Anon.
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>>539828306
just lose the 50/50
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>>539828227
whore
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>>539828306
she already is
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>>539827716
Hermaphroditic slug thirens...
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>>539828278
>I have no idea what a C is
It means this
<-
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>>539827769
>If Jufufu's animations had an entirely different model to both fight as and fight along with as well as has a tricycle that she fights on then she'd very much be on the same difficult-to-make tier as Miyabi and Yixuan, who are on a tier of their own compared to most if not all characters, animations wise
No shit. But why didn't they give her those things? Because they didn't have much expectations for her. They focused on Yixuan instead.
You're so fixated on the 'difficult' part that you forgot the more important question : Why did they bother making difficult characters (Yixuan, Miyabi, Seed) in the first place? I mean, they could have just recycle old animations and call it a day (Yidhari). You know, it's almost like they took on the task of making difficult characters to meet players' expectations and demands, so they can make money as a business.
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>>539825314
She use an hammer, bwo. I like it though.
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>>539828227
https://litter.catbox.moe/c6jfzv.mp4
lazy ass shark
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>>539828531
???
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>>539828104
19 C is not flat.
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>>539828707
What? I thought it was a good ide
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>>539828492
Shifu you're looking healthy today!!!
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>>539828656
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>>539828597
>Why did they bother making difficult characters (Yixuan, Miyabi, Seed) in the first place?
Because they want to
Except in case of sneed the wants of whatever retard in the dev team are entirely unsellable yet the delusional tard insisted on pushing it
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>>539828904
>I thought it was a good ide
a
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>>539828656
This is what she gets paid to do everyday by the way
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>>539828904
>I thought
you are not capable of such an activity
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>>539828597
>No shit. But why didn't they give her those things?
Because that's what they're working with when it comes to Seed, I even forgot to include the first person angle during her ult and inside the cockpit.
Hate Seed or love her, trying to deny the effort that was required for her combat animations is disingenuous at best, utterly retarded at worst.
>Why did they bother making difficult characters
I answered this already
1. flagship characters that are going to get wanked hard, IE Miyabi Yixuan
OR
2. entirely new ideas, combat style, models, etc.
Seed being the 2nd option. If she was the first which you keep implying then she'd get wanked to hell and back, including in the story which she didn't receive any special attention for.
Same with Zhao, they didn't create an entirely different model because "muh highly anticipated player expectations". They created her because she's something new and fresh, otherwise they could've just stuck to the current small model and called it a day
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>>539828904
... How should they look?
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>>539827545
China is straight
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>>539829024
Because they want to... make profits.
>>539829204
Mihoyo is not a charity. They don't realize entirely new ideas without expecting sales in return. I reckon they also expect Zhao to sell.
>Hate Seed or love her, trying to deny the effort that was required for her combat animations is disingenuous at best, utterly retarded at worst.
Nobody is deying the effort that was required for Seed, if anything I'm saying because she is so polished and high effort, with animated short film to boot, they certainly expected her to rain them with money.
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>>539828227
>hag dressing up as a teenager
it's always sad to see
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>>539828227
>hag dressing up as a teenager
it's always amazing to see
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>>539829350
Something like the melusines from Genshin would be a good starting point (maybe not as small). They probably wouldn't make them super slimy because that'd be a turn off for a lot of people.
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>>539828306
Emmie's dad likes them young. If I recall correctly he also made a pass at Koleda.
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>>539829737
>"they certainly expected her to rain them with money"
>minimum part in the story and no special treatment or wank leading up to her release
Also, they expect EVERYONE to sell, from what salestroons call flops and big sellers.
Doesn't mean that they're not going to continuously improve and push boundaries with new ideas and combat. Neither does it mean that those new ideas or boundaries are strictly limited to flagships like Miyabi and Yixuan.
Even in the interview >>539824361
>"you'll understand this once "Seed" is implemented and you play it"
>once Seed is RELEASED and you PLAY IT
She's something new that they can push all kinds of ideas with, which is exactly what they did
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>>539829737
If they wanted to make profits Flora would be removed an hour tops after the drip and reworked into the proper character yet it didn't happen, more copes sneedjeet?
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I’m 846 pounds and I have to eat snacks between hollow zero runs because it makes my blood sugar low
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>>539830440
Pan...
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>>539830440
Qingyi...
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>>539830053
Her dad is just like me fr
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>>539830440
Hugo...
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>>539830287
>Also, they expect EVERYONE to sell
But would you say they expected low-effort Jufufu to sell as much as high-effort luxurious animation new rupture role Yixuan? Come on.
>Doesn't mean that they're not going to continuously improve and push boundaries with new ideas and combat.
While expecting nothing in return? Do you believe Mihoyo is so charitable? The same devs that "pushed boundaries with new Rupture class to push and sell Rupture characters"?
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I’m orphiesexual
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Would magus yell at orphie giving birth
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>>539830287
Wait a minute. Is the out of the norm super animated drip not an example of them putting more effort into Seed in a non-animation/combat way? That's not some new standard they started and it's not something they do for every first half character. They only do it for their biggest hitters.
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>>539828528
>Cat
This is after watching 7710 and Its Cat.
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>They skipped Sweety
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>>539826263
I just tested it, and it's a small but noticeable energy gain. However, it's somewhat prone to miss.
This team is chaotic, but it's so much fun to play.
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>>539830741
>While expecting nothing in return? Do you believe Mihoyo is so charitable?
They have a character duo with a Mech. They can either pick the basic route like every other character or they can go crazy and experiment with it. They chose the latter.
>But would you say they expected low-effort Jufufu to sell as much as high-effort luxurious animation new rupture role Yixuan? Come on.
Refer to the same 2 points I've brought up three times now
>1. flagship characters that are going to get wanked hard, IE Miyabi Yixuan
>OR
>2. entirely new ideas, combat style, models, etc.
Yixuan is a flagship, she's going to get wanked to fuck and they will put effort into her.
Jufufu is an off-field character without new ideas, models or combat styles.
They decided they wanted a new model with Zhao, they're going to put effort into it whether they want to or not because she's something entirely new
>>539831091
>"big hitters"
>no big story role, barely any at all even
>no in-game wank up to her release
The more effort comes from being able to work with a 2-in-1 character
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I could've fixed her.
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>>539830629
I had no idea the characters could get buffs after the version was released
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holy wuwajeet melty look at that reply chain KEKKKKAROOOO
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What is even sneedjeet's game? Nobody is pulling the slop, her banner is over forever. Is the brown creature actually completely mindbroken or it's trying to get every google card possible before its H1B visa is cancelled?
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>>539831471
They always had the ability to do last minute buffs. It happened to Qingyi, she was originally a little bit weaker and then they buffed her right before launch.
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>>539831363
?
The animated drip has nothing to do with how much effort they put in to making her in the first place. Yuzuha supposedly was the biggest pain in the ass to make with the little raccoon and she didn't' get shit.
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>>539831421
Explain to me why being refined by the creator is a bad thing.
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>>539831363
You somehow have this idea in your mind that Zhenyu Li worked endlessly even during award ceremony for some vague feeling of satisfaction and not for profit. That hundreds of ZZZ developers work entirely for the sake of experimentation and fun instead of expecting profits.
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I ordered this after pondering it a month
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>>539831745
>ZZZ developers work entirely for the sake of experimentation and fun instead of expecting profits.
They expect profits regardless and they get profits, regardless.
Doesn't change the fact that if they get the chance to experiment and go all out like in the case with Seed and soon Zhao due to an entirely new model being made, they'll take it.
Why are they making different moves for Hollow Zero exclusive runs? Why go through all that effort when it doesn't sell characters?? Why didn't they take the lazy fuck route and just make Seed a basic character without all the crazy animations and combat? Almost like the devs care about the game and like pushing boundaries, new ideas, experiment, etc, on top of making money
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Imagine being such a sad brown creature than the very idea of people trying to make something experimental for fun is entirely alien to you
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>>539831834
Based if true
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>>539832143
NOOOO IF IT DOESNT SELL THEN NO EFFORT SHOULD BE MADE AT ALL STOP CREATING NEW THINGS AAAIEEEE
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4-cost Uzumaki Komano 44k DA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgWiOXy86Ak
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>>539832109
What was the experiment being conducted by pushing her so hard with the fully animated reveal? The one they've done before?
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Bunny wife!
Happy life!
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>>539832412
How hard can they get shat on after rugpulling
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>>539832376
Hey hey, 44k. That's even higher than the 40k Lighter/Orphie/Komano run on Pompey I saw. This is real promising for the dogboy.
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>>539832412
>playing snippets of her literal ult animation = big effort
Anon....
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>>539832376
Looks fun
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>>539832376
MY FWARKING HEROES
and, uhhh, Orphie is there too, I guess...
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>>539832376
>discs
sure
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>>539832491
That doesn't seem like a very business savvy decision...
>>539832548
>= big effort
>injecting words to have something to fight against
Fighting strawmen again, I see.
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>>539832412
>How hard can we push a fetish before it becomes too off-putting?
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>>539832376
>switch in
>ex
>switch out
holy shit Orphie is so lame
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How are you supposed to get a m6w5 Komano without pulling Lucia
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>>539832109
The birth of new ideas and their realizations always go hand-in-hand with investments and profits. With every new idea comes new shill endgame mechanics (Afterburn, Totalize, Aftershock, Rupture). By investing on animated shorts, they expect the character to go viral and sell better. Otherwise we'd have animated short films for every character in the game.
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>>539832772
Pull on the rerun banner
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I have diabetes
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>>539832772
by using A selector and getting lucky with engines
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>>539832772
you get a free A rank selector every month
he also gets added to the standard pool after the banner ends
like theres 5 A ranks bro do you really not have all of them maxed atp
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>>539832772
Get lucky.
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>>539832772
>pull on wengine banner to get W5
>get one free copy of Komano from even
>buy one copy of Komano every patch until he is M6
There you go.
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>>539833000
it's not free
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I just pulled another Brimstone ball. Do you guys combine your S rank balls or keep them separate for use on other agents?
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>>539833136
You only need two balls. If you have any more that's mega gay.
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>>539833136
I have multiple because I'm too lazy and stupid to remember to swap them out every time.
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>>539832654
yea those are hacked perfect discs kek. the team probably performs decently anyway though
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>>539832731
Your literal words were
>pushing her so hard
Implying that it took any effort at all. If you want the "experiment" then having that was the experiment, kek
Could also argue that they wanted to show off the first person cockpit view during her ult, something never done in ZZZ before
>>539832819
>you can never experiment with something new unless you expect to get as much profits as literal flagships characters
ZZZ has been experimenting, throwing things out there and trying new ideas SINCE LAUNCH.
Finding it strange that devs went the experimental route with a 2-in-1 character is baffling
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>>539831834
damn i'm sorry dude hopefully you can get a real character next time
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>>539833069
Why would I waste 7 rolls for Komano when I could just gamble the tenner on the banner and get multiple copies
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>>539833136
combining S balls is always a retarded idea unless you're a whale or only play one character
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>>539832621
Orphie actually contributes a good bit. Even ignoring her ATK buff, she's recharging Lighter's Morale from off-field while Komano recharges it on-field, and her damage is pretty considerable when buffed by Lighter. Plus she has like 45 or 50% defense ignore for her own attacks, so the lack of shred on these higher-defense bosses isn't a problem between that and Komano being a Rupture agent.
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>>539832376
I love his quick assist. My feral boy.

>>539832772
Hopefully I can get both.
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>>539833000
>you get a free A rank selector every month
You mean the montly shop? It's not free, you need a shitload of residual signals for that.
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>>539833245
>Implying that it took any effort at all.
That is not at all what that implies, dear retard. It just means doing something non-standard. The standard being the usual slight L2D with a little voice clip they do for regular reveals.
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>troonchi no troon
>absolutely beyond fucking retarded post
always an iconic combo
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>>539832772
Remember that we get one copy of Komano for free in 2.3 from an event.
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>>539833415
I gave you both answers anyway which you've got fuck all to say about
>If you want the "experiment" then having that was the experiment, kek
>Could also argue that they wanted to show off the first person cockpit view during her ult, something never done in ZZZ before
The fact that out of all things you're focusing on her reveal clip is retarded already but here we are
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>>539833326
Because that anon asked how they could get M6 Komano without getting Lucia. I don't know why they're retarded, I was just trying to helpfully answer their question.
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>>539833390
It's seven rolls' work of residual signal for a guaranteed A-Rank. I don't know whether that's better or worse, but since buying the selector means you can't build pity off those seven rolls, I assume worse.
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>>539833245
2-in-1 character is not only experimental. It strains their already tight schedule (time that could've been used for 2.3 and 2.4 characters) on top of draining resources for hiring 2 VAs (one being the literal JP VA of Optimus Prime) and an animation studio.
>It's purely for experimentation, devs didn't want her to sell
Is such a shoddy excuse.
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>>539828227
the guy in jap porn is always like some adrogynous homonculus lmao no wonder their birthrates are so low
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>>539833621
The best part is that Lucia isn't even Komano's BiS, so you can save her for Miyabi or whoever else.

Or just roll on re-run banner if you really hate Lucia, which if does seem like a fair number of people do.
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trig has prefect hair its so hot
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>>539833846
>Miyabi
I mean Yixuan. My brain files them in the same place, mentally, I guess.
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Highly anticipated characters like Seed
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>>539833693
>why didn't the devs that have shown us to be highly experimental since the launch of their game take the lazy route with a 2-in-1 character
Refer to the same thing I keep repeating that you retards can't get through your thick skull. If it's one of the following then they're going to put effort into it whether you like it or not
>1. flagship characters that are going to get wanked hard, IE Miyabi Yixuan
>OR
>2. entirely new ideas, combat style, models, etc.
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>no polearm character
>no bow character
>no crossbow character
>no minigun character
do the devs hate fun or what
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Formerly Anbys
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>>539831421
No but the Proxy could have if he just hugged her.
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>>539833693
They already had a cheaper-to-produce 2-in-1 character with Orphie/Magus, anyway. Why have two characters with that same design theme drop back to back?
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What did that anon mean by "Lucia isn't the best partner for Manato."
I thought her shtick was being good support for Rupture characters
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>>539834049
I don't think I've seen a more obvious "you don't play the game" case than this
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>>539824674
The only character who would sell worse then seed would be S rank ice dps damian
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>>539834171
I think he meant Lighter buffs are stronger than Lucia's
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>>539834049
>no polearm character
Yanagi, Ellen
>no bow character
Harumasa

Are you retarded or just forgetful?
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>>539834208
After he casually admits to groveling to TOPS yeah no one wants to rule for a C U C K
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>>539826272
She should be buffed. Of all characters released since then she one of with the most charisma.
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>>539834036
>2. entirely new ideas, combat style, models, etc
Do you believe they released the Rupture class along with DAs that shill Rupture because they were just experimenting with new ideas? That every DA coincidentally shills new combat styles even though they are oh-so charitable and only in it for the love of experimentation?
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>>539831834
Is it 3d printed resin?
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>>539834171
Lighter is better for any fire damage dealer than any support character is. The problem with Lighter is that your only options for Komano/Lighter are Orphie, Caesar or Lucy.
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>>539834208
I'd roll for him over yidhari
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>>539834171
Lighter/Orphie achieves higher throughout than Lucia/Fufu for Komano. Lighter's buffs are just that fucking massive, plus they also apply to Orphie's not-insignificant damage as well as Komano's own.

Also, Jufufu is a pretty terrible stunner and Komano's kit wants to take advantage of stun windows. Orphie batteries Lighter's Morale from off-field, by contrast, meaning he's got more stun juice.
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>>539834417
>bringing in endgame modes that notoriously cycle through different phases for roles and attributes to the creation of characters with new ideas, models, combat styles, etc
You're special
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Can you craft A rank engines or is rolling on the weapon banner the only way to get komano's ball? Having a rupture cope ball seems like it's going to be necessary soon
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Release a cute/hot female for this duo for fuck sake, I don't want to roll for the faggot, Koleda sucks and Jufufu permanently attached to my Shifu.
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Numbers don't lie zoocucks.
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>>539834669
You'll have to get Komano's W-Engine through the weapon banner or the standard banner (which may not feature his ball until the next banner/patch, I'm not sure). Shouldn't take more than 20 rolls to get one copy, and that's with poor luck.
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>>539834760
Monica soon bro
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>>539834669
The only way to get Komano's ball is from Lucia's wengine banner. In 2.4 Komano and his ball will be added to the standard banner so you'll always have a chance to get spooked by them.
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>>539834610
Holy shit next you're gonna tell me ZZZ is a non-profit organization with hundreds of employees working on Seed's animations because they are passionate about feet
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Which agent would main top lane iin league
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>>539834460
Resin yes but mold injection most likely
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>>539834760
>faggot
Lighter is clearly meant for Belle.
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>>539834803
Wutrannybro come back when the banner is for a character people actually care about and not some punching bag
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>>539834760
How do you powercreep Lighter? He's already pretty absurd.
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>>539834818
>>539834870
Fuck. Hopefully Sanby's rerun is the same banner so I can roll for her ball at the same time
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Senior sister so useless... just keeps eating...
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>>539835024
Nah their dogshit banner is losing to a sales event horizon that is fl*ra this is hilarious
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>>539834760
If you're really that booty-bothered about having a male character on your team, just settle for Trigger. You'll want to get her W-Engine, though, if you're running her with Evelyn.
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>>539832765
Yeah. I'm pretty pissed the character I was looking forward to most from the trailer turned out to be this shit
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Did IWinToLose drop ZZZ? He didn't make a Seed guide and doesn't seem to be making a Orphie one
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>>539834884
You sit down with these guys to discussion ZZZ's current direction, what do you tell them?
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>>539834884
>doubling down
>strawmanning with "a non-profit organization"
They had the chance to work with a 2-in-1 character and they took it and ran with it.
The endgame and role phases within it are to create a problem and sell you the solution, same with Rupture ultimately.
Precisely why it doesn't have anything to do with the creation of a character. They're not selling you a solution by experimenting with a 2-in-1 character or Zhao's tiny new frame, they're doing that to keep things fresh and because they've already shown us since THE LAUNCH OF THE GAME that these devs are going to keep experimenting and throwing things out constantly
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>>539834803
This is very intertesting and funny, why does Iuno have less pages if she has more fanart? Haha.
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>>539835069
That's what cats do yes
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>>539834992
wise keeps him busy enough
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>>539835307
OH NO NO NO WUBROS WHATS THIS
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>>539835046
He's really weak actually. Kinda feels like dead weight in my Astralyn team.
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>>539835307
Do you have NSFW and/or AI-generated art disabled for viewing?
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Calling this unit K-pop void hunters
Astra = Rumi
Evelynn = Mira
Burnice = Zoey
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>>539835251
find the one responsible for pushing fl*ra and slam his face into the broken glass multiple times
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>>539835303
You've got it backwards. They only put in the work because they expected profits to roll in, a.k.a those experimental characters/mechanics would bring in equivalent profits. Otherwise every character would have special roles, elements, animated films, and luxurious VFX.
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After Zhao there's nobody to look forward to. I don't care about the idols
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>>539835419
If you don't notice a considerable performance difference between using Koleda and using Lighter on an Astralyn team, you are doing something horribly, horribly wrong.
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Saw a YT short saying the ZZZ lead looked tired, I wonder if ZZZ is turning out how he thought it would.
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>>539835584
Just M6 Zhao then.
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>>539835106
The only sales chart where your shit game "wins" is the one that never updates the revenue for wuwa. I wonder why that happens over and over. Pathetic.
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>>539835584
Im interested in Yutane out of the bunch but Zhao has a stranglehold on my polys and dick
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>>539835420
don't think, just push the narrative
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>>539835584
We literally don't know who's coming after Zhao. Idols could be in 2.8 for all we've heard.
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>>539834590
>Orphie activates Lighter's additional
>Lighter buffs both Komano and Orphie
>Orphie's aftershock feeds into Lighter's morale
>Orphie's QA gives Komano infinite assist follow ups
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>3k likes
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>>539835779
Fat ugly bastard here, I did that btw.
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>>539835587
My M2W1 koleda does slightly worse than M0W0 lighter but yeah would his ball make a huge difference
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>>539835307
>blocked anything rated questionable/sensitive
retardbro...
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>>539835695
Have we even seen the ZZZ lead recently? I feel like he owes us a Da Wei-style tearful apology on stream.
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>>539832772
I'm rolling her and putting all the poly I get for Komano with a hope I maybe pull her. I want to pull Orphie though so I might be fucked.
>>539833379
>Orphie actually contributes a good bit. Even ignoring her ATK buff, she's recharging Lighter's Morale from off-field while Komano recharges it on-field, and her damage is pretty considerable when buffed by Lighter
What a unique synergy, can't wait to run it.
>>539833245
>>539833693
They should've made Seed Sr the unit, makes no sense and I think the scooter was a half measure to get her out the door.
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>>539835776
/ZZZ/ seeing Zhao’s trailer like
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>>539835307
>Zoocuck is retarded
The sky is blue.
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>>539835319
Pulchra would never.
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>>539835584
3.0 will be after idols. AFAIK Idols are the last prerelease designs, so anything after them will be the post-TV team's work. I'm not holding my breath.
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>>539835779
>Daily Genshin Impact reposted
Can't stick to the gimmick, huh.
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>>539835776
Lighter/Orphie/Komano feels like such a unique team, and the best part is that presumably it's an unintentional synergy because they're not advertising it as a recommend team for any of the characters. It's like they stumbled ass- backwards into the "dual attacker setup" they wanted with Seed, but it happened on Komano.
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>>539835556
You will never convince me that these same devs will see a never done before (in zzz) 2-in-1 mecha character and not take the high effort animation route. Everything up to this point has pointed towards them jumping on the chance to experiment with it
>>539835893
>half measure
Copy pasting what I said before
>Hate Seed or love her, trying to deny the effort that was required for her combat animations is disingenuous at best, utterly retarded at worst.
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SEED FVARKING FLOPPED BIGLY
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It's getting cramped here
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>>539835929
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Which agent can use Physical slot 6 Energy Regen as a cope?
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>>539836146
>intentional synergy
yeah just like Alice/Jane was totally not intentional trust me
>they're not advertising it as a recommend team for any of the characters.
Komano is only releasing in a month retard so obviously nothing is advertised for him, assuming it even will since he's not an S rank
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>>539836770
Piper, but she'd want Anomaly not those substats.
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>>539836501
Cute
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>>539836770
>+1 in useful stats
just scrap this dogshit disk retard
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>>539836146
I think letting beta testers figure out combos like this is part of the point of a beta, so I'm sure it'll be included in marketing or agent trials once the patch drops. Unless of course it's completely unintentional and MHY chooses to kill it since letting an A rank have an unintended successful strategy could be harmful to their chinese kikery.
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hows trigger with box cutter
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>>539836770
Why did you even level up this disc?
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do you ever need W5 or is just having the signature engine good enough?
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>>539836967
I-i-it would have been a good disc if Orphie wass Physical...
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>>539837305
For limiteds, W1 is enough.
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>>539837305
at least w3 is mandatory on most characters
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Licking every inch of Astra's delicious legs and then chowing down on her pristine muff until she's climaxed so many times the sensitivity drives her mad
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>>539836793
If it is intentional, then kudos to them I guess because I quite like it. Very stylish team with the matching outfits and all the fire being shat out.
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>>539837351
No it won't those sub stats are dogshit
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>>539836207
They did jump the chance for Seed, but saying devs didn't have high expectations for Seed is being clueless. You DO know that animated shorts and PVs are part of marketing budget? They are basically ads. Just like a restaurant wouldn't advertise side menus, ZZZ wouldn't advertise Seed (they were even accused of botting Seed's animated short to no.1 spot) if they weren't confident in her.
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>>539831421
At least we still have Ray
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>>539837305
A rank engines should be W5 when possible. For limited S ranks w1 is all you need to complete the kit. More than that is just a higher DA score
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>>539836793
I honestly figured they wanted to keep Lighter away from Rupture agents and that Orphie was an unintentional bridge they constructed.
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>>539835810
futabelle is not ugly or a bastard
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>>539837264
I used Nekomata as EX accessory to Piper.
I was a newbie and didn't understand agents with 1,2 base ER scale bad with ER discs.
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>>539837264
Because there's always a chance that the rolls go into useful stats?
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>>539835937
The idols will be so popular that the devs decide to turn Waterkuma into the game's exclusive character designer. Starting from 3.2, every character will be designed by Waterkuma.
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>>539835556
then why does every character (including A ranks btw) get whole new set of animations unique to them and them only
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>>539837560
They thought about shit like making Pan defense so he can't use Lucia disks do you really think they didn't consider the concept of Lighter/Orphie wheelchair in testing?
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>>539837969
Because that's the basic standard. You cannot seriously compare Pan Yinhu and Yixuan?
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>>539837989
Pan is defense because he's a big body like Ben BIGGA
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>>539808642
Im having fun
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>>539837989
Personally I think they're just retarded and made Pan Yinhu a Defense agent because they realized it was a scarcely-populated role and he's a bear.
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>>539835779
At the end of the day, people really just want a marriage simulator with Zhu Yuan.
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>>539838282
>autistic perfectionist x workaholic that doesn't know how to chill
she would be an absolutely awful wife
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>>539838076
seths elaborate moveset and komanos dmc references dont bring in profit proportional to the effort
so why do they keep showing love to A ranks?
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>>539837461
>They did jump the chance for Seed
Good
>"saying devs didn't have high expectations for Seed is being clueless"
Regardless of an additional PV, they didn't shill or wank her pre-release in-game, they didn't shill or wank her in the story, nor given her special treatment at all, no multipatch story dedicated to her before release like Vivian. In fact, Orphie sidelined her. All of which are marks of an actual "highly anticipated" character.
Experimenting, new ideas, models, combat styles = / = highly anticipated characters they're expecting to do as well as Miyabi Yixuan.
Look at the patch when we they introduced Aftershock agents as well as off-field dazers with Sanby and Trigger. They got sidelined to hell by Vivian despite them experimenting
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Who took the decision to put Magus into a gun instead of a normal humanoid construct?
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>>539838142
I'd like a mod that gives her some form-fitting quilted pants in the same style as her jacket. And maybe a scarf? Not a free-floating one, but a full loop around her neck might be a nice splash of color.
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>>539838170
Yeah i guess Caesar is a dps with that sword and shooting guns in her video OH WAIT SHE'S A FUCKING DEFENDER TOO LOOKS MEAN NOTHING
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>>539838282
Unfortunately homoyo only includes romance in games for women
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is there a vivian rerun soon
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>>539838507
nigga she has a big ass shield
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>>539838516
I want to choke seed to death
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>>539838572
>big ass shield
>caesar
dumbest post of the thread
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>>539838361
Again, because elaborate movesets and animations are part of the standard ZZZ package. You mention they keep showing love to A ranks, but we don't get many A ranks compared to S ranks and their animations are less flashy. Come back to me when an A rank has Yixuan-tier shilling.
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>>539838558
Yes with her skin in 2.3 or 2.4
>>539838572
Could be bigger desu
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>>539835214
gachas are a huge time sink
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>>539838357
Obviously a traitor snitch won't be a good wife
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>>539838730
Nice
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>most hyped character from 2.0 trailer
>only reason to pull her is to activate Lighter on Ydhari/Manato team
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hp inflation killed this game
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>>539838672
thats not nice
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>>539838976
>only reason to pull her is to activate Lighter on Ydhari/Manato team
Only Lighterfags would think like that
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>>539835214
He's been inconsistent on which units of which games he covers. Probably related to to the access (or lack thereof) to the preview servers.
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>there are still people clinging to lighter
LMFAO
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>>539838976
>most hyped character from 2.0 trailer
lol
>only reason to pull her is to activate Lighter on Ydhari/Manato team
metafag cant fathom pulling for anything other than "number go up"
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>>539839056
>baaaaaww please buff my character
Anbyfags, don't talk to me.
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>>539839026
I know... I didn't actually mean it. I never play the evil route in video games because I don't want to hurt the characters.
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>>539838516
I want Seed to teach me bad words in bangbooese
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>>539838686
it makes no money but theyre still doing it
if they wanted to make money they would stop doing it
so what gives?
is paying homage to your favorite media and franchises with the A ranks you make also solely for profit?
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>>539839256
A ranks do make money, though. Just in this thread we have someone wanting to M6W5 Manato without getting Lucia.
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what do flowers taste like
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using lighter at this point is basically the same thing as using a walkman in 2025. he's super old meta that hasn't been relevant for at least 5 patches now
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>>539839216
I wish i was hot like her
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>>539839384
Some flowers are bitter.
But many of them taste like micro carrots.
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>sneed shill gets shat on
>spam picks up
noooticing!
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>>539839194
Don't play Anby. Want to try again? After making retarded statements like
>the only reason to pull Orphie is to activate [insert character's passive that isn't even part of her top 3 teams]
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>>539838458
Magus was on the verge of death and there was no time to upload her personality into anything else.
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>>539839353
seed made money too
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>>539839353
>A ranks making as much money as S ranks
Lmao
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>I'm pulling Orphie to play Orphie!
>pushes EX and swaps out
I don't play WuWa, is it this bad too?
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>>539839794
That's exactly my point though. They are A ranks because devs didn't expect them to sell if they were S.
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>>539839974
then why make characters that dont sell if you want to maximize profits
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>>539839974
Manato would have sold more than Seed and Orphie, maybe even together. Flop squad.
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>>539837351
hose substats are complete fucking shit retard
you should have at least +3 in useful substats
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>>539839517
How do you know she's hot? You can't see her face and the jacket covers her body. Hell, it might not be a her. Anyway, get off 4chan and go work out. No point whining about your wishes when they're attainable.
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>>539840075
They do sell, but not as much as S-rank
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>>539840076
If he was that popular and wanted then chinks and JP would've caused a shitstorm for making him A rank.
In reality only a vocal loud minority cares
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>>539840125
then why make characters that sell less if you want to maximize profits
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>>539839840
Wait for Endfield if you want multiple characters attacking in real time, otherwise don't complain about quickswap ever again
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>>539840076
>the male character would have sold for real this time
Uh huh
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Why are we complaining about A-ranks again?
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>>539840279
are you one of those weirdos who doesn't have social media?
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>>539840104
It was an okayish cope disc for Rina for a while.
But now that disc has finally run its course of life because Rina is able to make full use out of Moonligt lullaby.

Wait... perhaps I can still shove that disc in Ben's mouth, and make him cope with it. He is just an EX machine for his crit buff anyway.
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>>539840375
>>539840196
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>>539840240
But they're already maximizing profits?
S-rank Waifu + S-rank Waifu + A-rank niche character that only appeal to subset of people who still spend money but not as much : Seth (male), Pulchra (female furry), Pan (fat furry), Manato (male)
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>>539840302
because one silly anon believes if hoyo makes a character with nice animations or novel concepts then they have to sell like miyabi or else theyre a failure
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>>539840279
sure
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>>539840375
>no no he totally would have sold I swear! the twittards told me so!
Sure
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>>539840375
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So what was the last minute Orphie buff?
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>>539838976
>only reason to pull her is to activate Lighter on Ydhari/Manato team
Really? Right in front of my Anby?
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>>539840498
>maximizing profits by making an A-rank that doesn't sell nearly as well as any S-rank but still have to creat the character and spend resources on them
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>>539840597
>>539840597
>>539840597
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>>539840259
>Endfield
What is that game even going to be? Is it an open world genshin clone? I saw some footage of a factorio mode too. Is it still a TD at all?
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>>539840075
They mostly seem to release A rank when they come up with a new mechanic, or there's a gap they think needs to be filled.
There wasn't much support for Anomaly so they released a A rank anomaly support via Seth
Aftershock was pretty new so they gave Sanby a A rank aftershock stunner option (the real mistake with Sanby was to not have Pulchra or Trigger be either a A or S rank aftershock attacker)
Now they are going back with rupture, and already introducing a rupture support so they need to pair her with a A rank rupture agent so she can have a use for any player who pulls for her.
The next A rank will happen when they start focusing on a brand new mechanic or add a new element most likely.
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Anon cant take a joke
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>>539840498
>A-rank niche character
thank you
A Ranks should be for those nice characters that wouldnt sell as well as S. Theyre doing that already but they can go wilder
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>>539840697
Yes? That's how they're maximizing profits. Resources spent on A ranks are proportional to how well they're expected to sell
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>>539840560
twitter and literally every other social media that talks about zzz. You can go to reddit, twitter, tiktok, facebook, instagram, you'll see that he is beloved by the community
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>>539840957
You should reread anon's post about the vocal minority and then go look up the phrase so you know what it means. Then you should look up echo chamber and confirmation bias for good measure.



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