Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #8659 - Sonic Playing Sonic Edition==NEWS==>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - The Animationhttps://youtu.be/5ocBa8jTXUA>TailsTube #13 - Pit Crewhttps://youtu.be/GiYfo0Wy2NA>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk #8 | Silver & Blazehttps://youtu.be/CNZgW0480go>SAGExpo 2025https://www.sagexpo.org/>Mobile card game Sonic Blitzhttps://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayedhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay>Paramount Developing Movie Spinoffshttps://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary - 22 October 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 5 November 2025Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 26 November 2025Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - December 2025Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>/sthg/ OP template:https://rentry.org/sthgtemplate>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zonehttps://tails.kicks-ass.net/>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ OCs:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixels:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>539832975
06 still having defenders proves this fanbase deserves nothing
>>539867513Sonic hates Sega too.
>>539867592All it proves is that you're a little bitch who can't handle that not everyone agrees with you even when your opinion is the most common in the world.
>>539867681You deserve nothing
Hot take: elise would be more accepted and more popular if she was designed, as an anime girl like shahra, merlina or sonic x maria.
>>539867739Calm down Willy Wonka, who pissed on your Oompa Loompas?
>>539867739I'm not entitled to anything, however I will continue to have fun with my favorite Sonic games while you seethe at nothing.
Rush sabotaged amy, knuckles, tails and cream so Blaze could be shilled as an equal to sonic. 06 gave the bitch what she deserved.
>>539867592Sounds more like you got upset about the blaze rectcon, thats is still canon as a whole.
>>53986785306 sabotaged those same people so Silver could be shilled as an equal to Sonic
Holy damn the art in GOTF is pretty, i dislike Evan but she can cook
Douge
>>539867880Idgaf about Blaze. Vault her and Silver
>>539867592i like 06. One of my wishes was always hoping someone dedicated took the game and fixed the bugs and other stuff. I got what i wanted sue me Even SEGA as a whole bend the knee to 06 fans
>>539868034Cute N Canon!
>>539867998This is the fancomic where uwu silver originated from. So as well drawn it is, it always have my hate.
Kurimu!Morning /sthg/ what the fuck is up? What I miss? It's the final day! 24 hours till the early access starts! Are you excited? Did you get the deluxe whale edition?Who are you going to friendmax (date) first?
>>539868084Cool to know sega instead of trashing lore from the game, started to make use of it. Im glad they never tried to deny 2006 events as a story, even with haters behind.
>>539868084Mephiles showing up in Shadow Gens and some mobile games doesn't really sound like Sega "bending the knee".
>>539867998The humans still look really ugly
Sonic should have no equal. The only ones who should even come close are Tails Knuckles and/or Shadow. Tails for the narrative purpose of “if you believe in yourself you too can be like your hero Sonic”. Knuckles OR Shadow for rival purposes, but only in a Goku/Vegeta way at best. Silver and Blaze? Fuck off
>bestie
>>539868521Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
>>539868341SEGA its no longer afraid of using 06 stuff There was a point everything 06 was forbidden outside generationshttps://youtu.be/yAkxcP_Vltc?si=ACl63hF0jBhY1kMS&t=2049
>breastie
I want to Bang the Cat
>>539868316If I get the game it will be Tails, obviously.
>>539868084If mephiles could be salvaged, maybe infinite has a chance too.
>>539868717
Good Night.
>>539868341It will only get better. Eventually they will rerelease the original game with some simple bug fixes and everyone will praise it as the best game of all time, while you cope and cry and seethe and pull your hair out and come here to spam NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T ENJOY THE LITERAL BEST GAME EVER MADE STOOOPPPPPPPP over and over and over while everyone either ignores you or laughs at you until you get permabanned from the entire Internet. Silver is getting in the movies and everyone will love him by the way. Cope forever, dumbass.
>>539868968Good night
>>539869030Least annoying silverfag
>>539869030autism but based
>>539869145Silver isn't even my favorite character, I'm just giving you the facts. The game's reception has been on an upwards trend for years and shitposters like >>539867592 can only cry about it. Things will keep going in this direction and the game will receive the respect it deserves.
eat your heart out ray
Okay, let's say Ian is allowed to have full creative control over Amy. What's the actual result?
Feels good 06Gods
>>539869297Cool!
>>539869030I would love for 06 to have a modern way for people to play it but just like Unleashed it's gonna come down to a fan port. I am really looking forward to seeing what people can do with Marathon Recompiled whenever it's released.
>>539869329
>>539869329amyfags find his house
>>539869267>06 is the best game ever>the factsLMAO
>>539869030>Eventually they will rerelease the original gameThey aren't going to do this in a thousand years. The rest will eventually happen (Silver getting good gameplay, getting in the movies, etc). They'll do what they have been doing with 06, and rip out what they want and put it into a better game idea
>>539869329uniornically? Lesbian and retired to make a way for Blazedude its not even transparent about it Oh and Blaze turns into a 1:1 clone of Sally because the dude only writes his same headcanons everytime
>>539869348ikrnot gonna lie her gameplay feels a bit boring though
>>539869030yes please, let's see sega fuck up a re-release 06 like they fucked up the genesis games and sa1
>>539869385Yeah I'm excited for the recompilation too. I want to try Legacy of Solaris and Super Hard Mode
>>539869329Amy will never unseat Lanolin as the biggest boobs
>>539869329This but unironically.
Elise should have been a blobian.I really love what quaver did with her.
in the final level i had to restart the whole game because she got stuck in a place with a long slope and no accelerators or springscosmo can't spin dash, peel out or even roll in this game
>>539869578
>>539869605>cosmofag enjoying the game without any of the standard Sonic moves>meanwhile some amyfags are still crying tears of blood for not having them
>>539869689
>>539867592Sonic 06 IS ETERNAL
>>539869881-LY GAY
>>539869881ffs that picture make's silver look like he has a huge dong just hanging out.
>>539869509Lanolin will always be my most despised letdown for a sonic characters.
>>539869774>2000s amy: a hedgehog, and passionately loves sonic>sega makes her gameplay slow and completely different from sonic>2020s amy: her gameplay is extremely fast and almost identical to sonic>sega makes her passionless and indifferent to sonicwhat the fuck is wrong with these people?
>>539869997To be fair, whisper and tangle are pretty close on that regard.
>>539867592Feels like that's because most people haven't actually played 06, just watched YouTube videos about it or maybe played P06.Playing 06 on a PS3 a couple years ago was a transient experience. You don't know how bad this game is until you actually play it for yourself, no matter how much you already have seen or heard about it.
>>539869329She's insomniac Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Mary Jane mixed with Lesbian Wonder Woman with a touch of transmasculine-coded identity. Thank Ian we now have more legitimate reason to hate on Amy
>>539869881Yes I love the game where you play as Trunks Goku and Vegeta’s fursonas. Hedgehog (aka not-Saiyan) supremacy! Fuck everyone else!
>>539870134I played it on Xbox 360 for the first time last year and I enjoyed it. Sometimes I launch the game and get some S ranks or replay my favorite stages
>>539865736>>539866185>>539866289Blaze is not from the future in 06. The whole point of her partnership with Silver and their Tanabata analogue has always been that they're from different worlds.
>>539870079i could never get the hang of amy in advance 1, to me her being hard mode was cool but i imagine most people didn't feel the same way
>>539853693>Reminder that Paramount already got its teeth kicked in with South Park.QRD? I want to have hope (or even just cope) for Sonic 4 rehabilitating Amy like it did Shadow.
>>539869881
>>539870134No one here was defending the gameplay, sucker, people were arguing about the story, and how stuff escalated compared to other sonic games.>>539870134>Playing 06 on a PS3 a couple years ago was a transient experience. You don't know how bad this game is until you actually play it for yourself, no matter how much you already have seen or heard about itI played that game way before half this board was even born, when it was actually released.
>>539870172Everyone is playable in Sonic 2006. They even had DLC for the amigo characters.
I'll never get why STKfags hate 2006 when it's literally one of the only two games that prominently features STK. It seems to come down to jealousy for Shadow and Silver fighting the final boss, but Tails and Knuckles literally did that in the previous game. They also blame the game for the characters not being used in later games, but this is literally the game that did the most effort to use as many characters as possible.
>>539870257Let it go anon.
>>539869968His huge hedgeCock is reserved only for brazeu tight pu$$y btw
>>539870257It's just shippers, man. The more information that comes out about Blaze and 06 makes it very clear she was still supposed to be from another dimension. Cut dialog from 06 even had her recognizing Sonic.
>>539870427>They also blame the game for the characters not being used in later games, but this is literally the game that did the most effort to use as many characters as possible.06 did it as shit as possible, and validated all the complaints people had about them since SA1
>>539870540Did you reply yourself?
>>539870257>>539870442I have no real stake in this, but I just find it impressive that Sonic fans will never let settled issues stay dead.
>>539870593It kept the base movement similar for all the characters and changed their speed and abilities, whereas SA1 gives everyone except Tails and Knuckles a completely different base. Nothing was "validated".
>>539870427>but Tails and Knuckles literally did that in the previous game.In cuck bubbles, aka *not* as equals of Sonic. All the hedgies getting to go super together showcased ST’s true intentions, to make them into quasi-saiyans and bench T+K Krillin/Tien style
>>539868084Mephiles had a great theme https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5cBaV5fTt7w&pp=ygUQbWVwaGlsZXMgcGhhc2UgMQ%3D%3D
>>539870593literally gave everyone gameplay close to sonic instead of a different gameplay and genrealso people already got sick of the "friends" with heroes but people forget , all those complains about repetittion and chaotix.
>>539870427knuckles is the only character in 06 who can't complete a level without glitches
Blazefag seething aside, does anyone here is exited about crossworlds coming soon?Im not particularly exited about the whole dlc, but megaman being there, makes me really exited for some reason.
>>539870339DLCs barely count
Reincarnation theorists have to ignore:>Internal documents giving the Rush origin>All 06 supplementary material before and after the game released giving the Rush origin(Including the strategy guide directly saying she came from her dimension)>Takashi Iizuka saying she isn't from the future>The Power of the Stars>The royal soul plot point>Blaze's knowledge and design that someone from Silver's apocalypse wouldn't have>How Silver and Blaze aren't actually written as lifelong friends>Cut voice lines where Blaze recognizes Sonic and Amy>The fact that Silver still has the 06 backstory but doesn't remember Blaze from 06>The Tanabata allegory requiring Blaze to be both a princess and from a different world than Silver (the princess and the cow herder, not two cow herders)>Absolutely nothing stating that she's from the future (including 06 itself)
>>539870334I was a kid when the game released, but I didn't have an Xbox 360 or a PS3 at the time, and by the time I saw the game online everyone was saying it was bad and I believed it for the longest time. In recent years I realized getting my opinions that way was stupid and also that I was biased against games that didn't exactly 100% match what I want from Sonic, and decided that I should play the games myself to form my own opinion. I played Sonic 2006 on Xbox 360 for the first time last year, and I enjoyed it more than I thought. Some parts are much better than I expected, some are much worse. I had to get used to the collision glitches and I had to learn to avoid them. But overall I had a good experience. Sonic, Tails, Omega, and Blaze are all fun to play as, usually when I play the game I like replaying Sonic's stages (or their hard modes). The only characters that I completely dislike to play as are Shadow and worst of all Amy, who is at least only played very briefly. Most town missions suck. Sonic plays the best since he has access to more moves and powerups than anyone else. All that said, the controls for the better characters are decentish all things considered, what truly makes the game enjoyable is the level design and its flow, which isn't unusual for Sonic games>>539870865You can complete that stage without that glitch. I completed that stage without the glitch multiple times before I even knew the glitch existed. You just need to activate the orbs all at the same time before they deactivate. It ruins the flow of the stage and there is no easy way to tell if they're still active until you've activated them all, but it isn't broken, it works just fine and you can complete the stage without having to use a glitch
>>539871004I hope megaman, roll and protonan are the ones on that dlc.Bonus points if their vehicles are inspired by the battle and chase game.
>>539870637Game Theory reopened this wound by telling normies that reincarnation theory applies to the timeline.
>>539871196Funny how, sonic now is the one inviting megaman and Pac-Man, instead of mario.Kinda cute to know legacy game mascots are a bunch of really good friends.Mario could be with them, but Nintendo exclusivity cant let him.
>>539871260I haven't watched that video and I was already saying it still made sense the moment that official timeline was published.
>>539871168imagine how much better the game would be if it was actually finished
>>539871367Reincarnation theory doesn't make sense. That's not how Solaris's power or causality works.
>>539867592(me)I was referring to the story btw
>>539870172/sthg/ can't face the truth
>>539871260>Game TheoryGod-fucking-dammit, that explains the sudden uptick in this shit recently. I thought MatPat died or something?
>>539871371Yeah I wish dude. At least there are Legacy of Solaris, Super Hard Mode, and of course P-06. I haven't played those yet but I'm looking forward to. Really all the gameplay stuff has been covered by fans at this point, what we're missing now is a polished official version of the story and more details on the lore
>>539871371imagine if SEGA wasn't stupid...too bad they did the same shit with Boom and almost with FrontiersIts a miracle we are still here
>>539871442No story involving time travel makes sense.Ironically dragon ball is one of the few that actually understands how timetravel could work. With the alternative pocket timelines Linear theory is one of the worst because it implies the grandpa theory on a lot of stuff.
>>539871454We don't care, you're a little bitch.
>>539871356why should mario associate with the also-rans and their pity party?
>>539871260>Game Theorythey did this stupid shit? so it wasn't just only chronicles?
My top three racers? Kurimu, Seji, and Roru (rokuman) of course.
>>539871518>I thought MatPat died or something?He became a senator. I shit you not.
>>539871624Because mario is an actual friend of all of them? Only this place is obsessed with sega vs Nintendo, just for a dumb crossworlds commercial. When sega has been a partner for Nintendo since the GameCube games.
>>539869030I can’t wait for movie 4 to have Amy take the time travel role and cuck the hell out of Shitver just like Rouge got cucked out of the SA2 movie
>>539869387Sonic looking so smug about taking it in the ass will never not make me laugh.
>>539871619>>539867739
>>539869387I miss soneggfag..
>>539867776
>>539871759>movie 4 is a riff on the terminator>amy gets wounded by metal sonic like kyle reese did>sonic uses the chaos emeralds to revive her with a kiss like in 06>amy cucks elise and silver at the same time
>>539871869Where's your P-06, little bitch?
>>539871356Is more surprising how sonic is associated with megaman and pac-man for different reasons.Some will say smash, but sonic has been collaborating with pac-man for years, while sonic had two comic crossovers with megaman.
>>539871196I'm dreaming of X somehow joining the MegaMan dlc. I know it's very unlikely, but ever since playing maverick hunter X and seeing the cool ride chasers he and zero had made me think MMX could make a really cool "kart racer" game but with the gimmick being they race on super high speed ride chasers.
>>539871969Incredibased
>>539871729Sega's Wii U/3DS deal with Nintendo inadvertently nearly killed the Sonic franchise for real this time. Rumor has it the sabotage was intentional.
>>539867776>elise would be more accepted and more popular if sheDIDNT KISS SONICShould be just platonic other than making Amy jealous
>>539872047Fuck Megaman. Him showing up is a herald of destruction for something Sonic. Just like it was for Archie, something else will be destroyed by this failure.
>>539871991it's because they're all video game mascots that flamed out and only now live off nostalgia
>>539872047I get why people love megaman x, but im actually sick of everyone shilling megaman x, just for being a favorite.Discarding megaman and roll in favor of x and zero is one of the reasons I started to dislike modern marvel vs Capcom.
>>539871168you're missing the pointyou aren't supposed to complete flame core/aquatic base with knuckles, the game wants you to let sonic regain controli know it was just incompetence because he has stage completion voice clips and an animation, but it doesn't change the fact he got the short end of the stick in 06
>>539871729Sonic Team wanted to make a proper Mario and Sonic platforming crossover and Nintendo only let them do lame generic sports games. If Nintendo were a real partner they would have worked together with SEGA to make a good crossover. The only time Nintendo was good for SEGA was during the GameCube era, and that's because the GameCube would have failed even harder if it didn't have an amazing game like SA2.
What Sonic games had the best sense of escalation?>Sonic 3 & KnucklesGoing to hidden palace deep beneath angel island, Knuckles seeing the truth, Sonic & Knuckles becoming bros, then Knuckles warping Sonic to Sky Sanctuary to stop Eggman before it's too late>Sonic AdventureChaos progressively becoming more powerful. Chaos 0, Chaos 2, Chaos 4, Chaos 6, Perfect Chaos>Sonic Adventure 2 Going to Space Colony ARK and taking the fight to Eggman while Shadow waits around for Eggman to gather the emeralds to fulfill Maria's "wish">Sonic HeroesGoing to Eggman's Final Fortress and taking the fight to "Eggman" but is actually Metal Sonic>Shadow the HedgehogGoing to Black Doom's Final Haunt that takes place aboard the Black Comet, the Black Arms' home>Sonic 06Everyone working together in order to gather all seven Chaos Emeralds and resurrect Sonic before Solaris can completely destroy the fabric of reality>Sonic Unleashed Going to Eggmanland, the proposed capital of the Eggman Empire, something mentioned since SA1
>>539872279nintendo doesn't want the struggling blue rat to leech off their Italian plumber
>>539872279Sega was way too busy making f-zero gx.The most awesome racing game ever created.
>>539872279Nintendo is littaly a cancer on the gaming industry.
>Janny started deleting crossworld threadJANNY GONNA FREAK
>>539872212Rockman and Volnutt will always be the best Megaman. That being said I think x is cool too. The list is Rockman, Volnutt, X, Battle network, and that other one I don't ever remember the name of, and finally American boxart Mega Dan.
>>539872279>If Nintendo were a real partner they would have worked together with SEGA to make a good crossoverSEGA can't even get Sonic right without their own fanbase doing the homework for them. What do you expect Nintendo to do?
>>539872047Classic Mega Man had something similar to the ride chasers, though it's a bit of a deep cut since I think it literally only showed up once.
>>539872070Reminder that Yuji Naka for sabotaging the Sonic X-treme team by not letting them use the NiGHTS engineReminder that SA1 and SA2 were built to take full advantage of the Dreamcast hardware. The palette-based "Lantern" lighting engine from Sonic Adventure was ahead of its time. Iizuka wanting something transparent and liquid since the technology now allowed it, the team came up with Chaos. They had to drop it to hit SA2 60fps on Dreamcast and SADX 60fps on GC.Reminder that Sega threw away the Sonic Adventure 1/2 engine made in Sega Katana, an SDK for the Dreamcast and gave us Renderware garbage for Heroes and Shadow because Sony demanded that Sonic has to run on PS2's emotion engineReminder that SonicNextGen was built for the Xbox 360, rushed for holiday release, and then SEGA wanted to port it to PS3's CELL and WiiReminder that Unleashed and Generations were built exclusively for the Xbox 360 and were kinoReminder that Sonic 4 and Episode 2 flopped so hard that everyone forgot about itReminder that Sega screwed themselves by making 3 mandatory sonic games on the Wii UReminder that the developers created Sonic Boom with an engine incompatible with Wii U then botched the portReminder that Sonic Mania was made by Sonic fans as a love letter to 90s Sonic that grabs the most fun parts of Sonic's gameplay into his level design, most of the frustrating moments of the original classic games can't be found here, and Sega of Japan hated it and gave us SuperStarsReminder Sonic Colors Ultimate was outsourced garbageReminder vanilla SADX PC and that Sonic modders spent over 10 years fixing the PC port for freeReminder that Unleashed and Black Knight were the last Sonic games written by Japanese writersReminder that Shadow is Iizuka's favorite Sonic Character (to the point where he wears an iced Shadow Medallion) and wanted Sonic X airing next to DBZReminder Ian Flynn only knows how to write overly self-referential stuff
>>539872279For real, how an actual sonic/mario platform crossover could work?It would make more sense to choose a more neutral game genre. Like what mario did with the rabbids.
>>539872279Nintendo is a control freak with Mario Why do you think they are going to do something interesting with Sonic?
>>539872212>people ask for x in capcom vs whatever for years>he finally makes it in a game>it's mvcimonkey's paw
>>539872278Oh, you thought the game was supposed to let you finish a stage with Knuckles. There is no real indication of that though. It's not uncommon in development to account for all cases even if they haven't decided that those cases will happen. I think dataminers recently discovered a prototype version of Team Attack Amigo that apparently shows they wanted to make the DLC like a full story for Tails to go through every stage, and they assume they would have wanted to do that with every character iirc, so maybe they were anticipating using those stage completion lines in a DLC. In the end Team Attack Amigo focuses on the most fun side characters, so ultimately I think they used their resources better when it comes to the DLC compared to the base game
>>539872585>For real, how an actual sonic/mario platform crossover could work?easy, sega chops sonic's balls off and makes him play like mario
>>539872585...Like a platformer? Just give both Sonic and Mario linear stages and it's done. Do it like an Unleashed boost/werehog or Generations Modern/Classic thing
>>539872575Sonic heroes and shadow was developed for the GameCube, in fact The game cube versions are the best versions of those games for obvious reasons.Ps2 versions were just ports, and in fact are the worst versions of those games.
>>539872608I didn't think that, I just explained that Nintendo wasn't a true partner to SEGA. They just leeched off of SA2 while they were struggling with the GC, and then they tried to leech even harder when they were struggling with the Wii U. Difference is SA2 was a Dreamcast game originally so it was already amazing.
>>539872738>...Like a platformer? Just give both Sonic and Mario linear stages and it's done. Do it like an Unleashed boost/werehog or Generations Modern/Classic thingWho creates the engine, Sega devs or Nintendo devs?
>>539872912>Who creates the engine, Sega devsjesus christ no
>>539872585>For real, how would an actual sonic/mario platform crossover work?Sloppily fuse Frontiers with Odyssey
>>539872912Sonic Team if you want an unpolished but fun game, Nintendo if you want a polished but boring game.
>>539872912>>539872971Some people are shitposting about sega making game engines but the original hedgehog engine was a marvelous creation, while one of the best engines ever created for the Olympics games was made by sega.Funny enough those olympic character models are the sonic models that had the most polygons and details on characters.
>>539872575Heroes and shadow the hedgehog were created for the GameCube, not the ps2.
Reminder what you lost
>>539872358I'd say SA2. The whole time things just feel like they get more and more dire with every move and that eggman was always one step ahead. The moon being blown up and eggman calling their fake emerald bluff were really good and both hit really hard. The ending of shadow playing everyone on Gerald's behalf was also really good
>>539872358We already agreed 2006 is the story that had the greatest escalation on things.
>>539873025the only reason people remember frontiers was the amv music
>>539873216
>>539872835This is true according to TCRF. Sonic Heroes was developed on GameCube first and ported to PS2 and Xbox. I'm actually not sure where the PS2 rumor came from. I think I first saw it on a Cult or Retro post without a source. If it is true, all it means is that multiplatform was always the final target.
>>539873348I remember it for the cyberspace stages and time attack mode, the Battle Rush mode, the open zone platforming sections (especially the New Kocos, the towers, and The Final Horizon), and messing around with the Homing Dash and the physics especially after unlocking the Spin Dash
Lemme out, faggots.
>>539872835>>539873454According to legend, Sonic Heroes was originally going to be on Gamecube and XBox only. However, Sony told SEGA the same thing they had told Capcom numerous times: “Release this on Playstation 2 or you'll never be allowed to release games on a Sony brand console ever again”. The PS2 was the dominant console that generation and being prevented from releasing titles on it could doom a company. However, SEGA was terrible at programming for the PS2. They had even produced a number of Dreamcast titles in the past that flat-out could not be done on PS2. But now, SEGA had to take a title they had already partially finished and move it from it's own proprietary engine to something that could easily be ported to all three consoles: Renderware. This sudden engine shift probably put them far behind schedule and messed up any chance to really polish the game as much as it needed to be. This caused SEGA to produce yet another sub-Adventure title.
>>539873216the only reason sticks exists in the first place because sega fucked up amy's spastic gremlin traits so bad that boom split them off into a separate character to save face
>>539873348What's up with you guys saying frontiers was bad? It had a really good gameplay while using aging the whole game lore.The only legit complaint is how is just a derivative of breath of the wild.Even the Japanese loved the game at the point it was impossible to play it on the tokio game show.The producer even won an trophy accolade for it.
>>539873495Cuck ball
>>539873495No.
>>539872358SA2 takes it for me. It's absolute cinema. S3&K is a close second
>>539873531>Release this on Playstation 2 or you'll never be allowed to release games on a Sony brand console ever againShould have told them: "Okay, bye"
>>539873556they plopped sonic into a pso map, added some sa1 and 2 stages remade with assets ripped from generations and charged $60
>>539873649If you think that would have fixed heroes your wrong. Heroes was rushed and under staffed.
>>539873531>no one remembers sonic heroes and residents evil 4 used to be gamecube exclusivesThe re4 version was the best version of the game too.They even became player's choice.
>>539873649sega couldn't afford to say no to sony money after they just got bitchslapped out of the console race
>>539873880They took stage layouts from SA2, Unleashed, and Generations. Not SA1. There are also original stage layouts>>539873912I don't think that, I think they should be told to fuck off if they give an ultimatum like that
>>5398723583&k conveys it so well, no words are necessary
>>539873964>>539873649Sonic games on Sony's consoles were always worse>Sonic Heroes>Shadow 05>Sonic 2006>Sonic Unleashed>Sonic GenerationsIt only changed when the PS4 became x86
SEX WITH MARIA!!!!
24 hours left till new game. Have you made your peace with your God yet?
>>539873953Ps2 fans making shit up for being fanboys in really common like inventing how ps2 sold shit put of nowhere, because the switch become the actual mote sold console in history >>539873556The western script is even agreed to be the best version even by the Japanese.
>>539873968And none of the original stage layouts are good
>>539873953According to Capcom, the character Leon was modeled with 10.000 polygons on the Gamecube, and on the PS2 the polygon count will be almost half of that number. By comparison, the Snake on Metal Gear Solid 3 has 4.000 polygons, 1.000 less than the PS2 RE4 Leon.The textures, that on the Gamecube were on the 24bits color standard, will be lowered to 4 or 8 bits. On the other hand, the wider and superior memory bandwidth on the Playstation 2 will allow the use of more varied textures than that used on the Cube. PS2 was always the worst console of the gen.
>>539873556It's mostly one guy angry that the game is well received.
>the ps3 was supposed to have 2 cell instead of a gpu, but then some guy from naughty dog them how retarded that was so they had to get some piece of shit from nvidia to replace the second cell Xbox 360 had both better and more sensible hardware. What was truly ahead of its time is the X360 GPU and PS3 spent the entire generation using CELL as a crutch for the shitty GPU nvidia sold them. PS3 couldn't afford to use the SPUs for logic unless you wanted the games to look like an upscaled PS2 game.Sony really learned their lesson because PS4 released with a much better GPU than the X1. Reminder Sonic 06 was WORSE on PS3.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEmth0LHS-k
>>539874197>The western script is even agreed to be the best version even by the Japanese.Why thank you, one-guy-who's-meming-this-lately.
>>539874256What are you talking about, they're fun. Especially the ones in The Final Horizon since they offer a decent challenge and have better collectibles>>539874438Japanese players criticized ONE line and this guy wants to meme that criticism to the entire game. The real issue with the Japanese version is that the cutscenes are animated for the English version and make no sense in Japanese a lot of the time
>>539874364It was well received for shallow as fuck reasons. When the next game is ass and we begin looking back to figure out why, Frontiers will be Exhibit A.
>>539874306he PlayStation 2 version, graphical effects are reduced in detail. Even more noticeably are the water, shadow, and fog effects, as well as a reduced draw distance, missing many lighting effects , abscence of all specular highlights and water effects needed to be re-designed (ripple with transparency, but a flat surface with no reflections) as the PlayStation 2 hardware does not have the same capabilities as the GameCube. Some small things were left out of the PlayStation 2 version, for instance, the barrels that Leon breaks throughout the game are missing a circular rim on the top compared to the GameCube, character model physics were also downgraded or completely removed due to the sacrificial and downgrading of model quality such as Ada's hair, Leon's back hair, Ashley's hair and Skirt being no longer animated as they were in the original game release.Additionally, almost all the GameCube's real-time cut scenes were converted into movie files in order to maintain a better quality. This results in the player's character appearing wearing their default costume, regardless of which accessories or outfits were actually chosen. Furthermore, voices and sound effects quality outside of the cut-scenes had been reduced due to disc space being quickly used and audio RAM constraints. An anamorphic 16:9 mode was implemented in the PS2 port and included in all subsequent versions of the game. This mode omits the borders of the 4:3 mode, but still renders the game in the same resolution and utilizes the TV to stretch the image. This results in blurrier graphics, more visible dithering and no additional field of view being added to the game.Also PS2 version enemies just shuffled off-screen to save on memory and had worse AI routines in general lol
>>539874306Yeah, is pretty funny how the worst console became the winner, while having the worst ports in gaming history.People pride it for its wide catalogue, but a lot of stuff was badly ported games and actual shovelware.Still the third party games made for the actual ps2 were incredible, metal gear, final fantasy and kingdoms hearts come to my mind.On that generation, the gamecube was the console that had the best assets to develop games.
>>539874569"Shallow" reasons like the gameplay being fun, allowing casuals to go at their own pace, and the physics being enjoyable to mess around with
>>539871260Didn't that timeline have Sonic Chronicles in it and also have Forces take place AFTER Frontiers for some reason?
>>539871260>>539874783Yep
>>539874687Was Frontiers your first video game?Be honest.
>>539874197>The western script is even agreed to be the best version even by the Japanese.No it wasn't. Just because they thought their script was ass didn't mean they glazed the english one.
>>539874685Really not that different from the Switch desu, trade "we have a dvd player" with "we have handheld and dock".
>>539874847My first Sonic game was Sonic Adventure DX, I played it soon after it came out on the GameCube. I had already played several games before that point, and I played many Sonic games inbetween that and Frontiers
Ok it's 1am now, so can we all go to sleep so we can talk about Sonic together in the morning? I'm getting sleepy, but I don't want to miss anything.
>>539874438>>539874495I'm pretty sure a lot of the Japanese script was criticized for not making sense a particular tails ans amy cutscene even became a meme, for how nonsensical it was.Some will always think people is trying to glaze flyyn, but for real, the flynn hateboner meme is getting old, when in fact I never said a word about flynn at all.
Say something nice about Sonic 06
>>539874967Cool, I didn't talk about Ian either. It was Tails line specifically that was criticized, and if you see the context it's clear the script was making Tails talks weirdly because he's smart and that's meant to communicate that the other characters don't understand him. But it didn't work because the grammar was weird and players made fun of that line. It's not a criticism that extends to the entire game, it's one cutscene at the start of the game and that's all there is to it
>>539873216Shitty character nobody cares about?
>>539875093Elise did nothing wrong
>>539874953ok we promise not to talk about your big bro sonic until you wake up shh everyone use spoilers to talk about sonic
>>539874953Anon, it's 10 am.
>>539874948Your lying.
>>539875093Shiruba san debut game
>>539875093Shadow's story is pretty good.
>>539875093It had an actual cool story, but people like unfairly resume it to one bad cutscene.
>>539875093It's fun for the most part, I like playing as Sonic, Tails, Omega, and Blaze. I like some of Sonic's gems. Sonic's stages are great on replays, especially the later stages, I like getting S ranks in those. I like that it has hard modes and the Team Attack Amigo DLC is cool. I like that they improved Tails controls in that DLC as well, and I find it interesting how it has its own level design style distinct from the base game. Soleanna's old town is comfy and it's fun to jump on the roofs. The story is exciting even if it doesn't always make sense, and it has some nice music. I have a lot of frustrations with the game, but it's a good time overall
Kino reflections
>>539875093it gave blaze a different hedgehog to leech off
>>539875349To think 06 has a cool story, you have to not actually pay attention to what's happening.People who like it's story usually boil the "story" down to four cutscenes in their mind.
>>539874842>Sonic Triple Trouble is now Knuckles' debut>Tails' games take place almost at the near end of the classic timeline>Still putting Sonic 4 at the end of the classic era while also having Sonic Drift and Knuckles Chaotix in the timeline>Sonic Advance happens before Sonic Adventure 2>Sonic Chronicles happens before Sonic Rush>Sonic Frontiers happens before Sonic ForcesWhat whack-ass timeline.
>>539875138I can't get over how ridiculously cute Honey is in the OG. I hate how Archie de-emphasized her cat-mouth in most drawings.
So, is anyone working on a Sonic 06 Recompile like they were with Unleashed? I'd say 06 really needs one of those.
>>539874953Alright, I should probably sleep in a bit too. See you bro!
>>539875093Is one of the few games that actually tried to use and make playable a lot of the secondary game cast.The only letdown was the chaotic were not included (take it as good or bad, depending on your opinion)It gave us silver too
>>539874842This is like that autistic guy on gamefaqs finally had a youtube video to platform his shitty ideas
>>539875093Crisis City as Sonic is an alright stage
>>539875483Now you know why I am the best!
>>539875196I'm not, and Frontiers is fun
>>539875093great level design introduce one of my favorites characters ever fantastic music
>>539874842They made three different Sonic Boom games?
>>539875485Yes, it's being worked on https://github.com/ga2mer/MarathonRecompIt's playable already, but still incomplete. This is a WIP video from 2 weeks ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4JixuGUW2M
What was wrong with Sonic Colors Ultimate again?
>>539875093It had one of the best opening/endings cutscenes on the franchise.
>>539875607One of my three favorite stages to play alongside Sonic's Kingdom Valley and Aquatic Base. Good level design
Sonic Boom has worse animation than Jimmy Neutron.
>>539875138That's cheating.>>539875183No, it's 1am where it matters (Los Angeles).>>539875491Goodnight!
sex with tails?
>>539875716Yeah and no one remembers them lol
Sonic Frontiers in the Theorist timeline.>Tails talks about how he was useless when Infinite attacked.>Sonic: "Who the hell is Infinite?">Knuckles remarks about how lonely it is to be the last echidna.>Sonic: "But what about Shade?"
So if NIGHTS is on the boxart, where's the announcement?
>>539875759what is not wrong with that mess They used Godot lmaoDon't know if they fixed it but they totally ruined the colors compared with the Wii version , saturation and even the gameplay suffers + the bugs
>>539875716Shattered Crystal was just a handheld retelling of the console game, I think.
>>539875482Yeah. Stick to /sthg/'s timelines.
>>539875887The stuff about the moon always confuse me, I remember sega making two retcons, one about sonic's world having more than one moon, while the other said, the moon crater faced on the dark side.Having two moons made more sense to me.
>>539876041if the idw girls are december then night its January
>>539875923Oh shit another Socal. Greetings from San Diego tailsbro.
>>539876115It's a completely different game.
>>539875716Most people only know about Rise of Lyric. The other two handhelds being constantly ignored reminds me of how the Rivals games are forgotten compared to 06
>>539875716>>539876115They also made Sonic Boom Dash.
>>539876192>>539876226QRD on Sonic Boom's development?
>>539876192The Rivals games get way more attention than any of the Boom games.
>>539876182But isn't Lyric treated like a new threat in both games? Or is Shattered Crystal actually a sequel?
>>539875093It's entire soundtrack is of the best sonic soundtracks ever created.
Starting a Tails in a dress folder post Tails in dresses. Both sfw and nsfw
>>539875923>it's 1am where it matters (Los Angeles).Damn americans always stealing the glory.
>>539876192fire and ice its unironically a good game and often gets forgotten funny enought it was the first gam from the 25th anniversary after it was delayedPeople also dont speak about gens or LW 3DS
>>539876150Samefag, here's the classic timeline as well.>>539875716Four if you add in Sonic Dash 2: Sonic Boom
>>539876150>TSR before ForcesFor the last time, it was released after Forces and has a Forces reference. And Sonic 4 can only happen unless games like Chaotix don't exist.
>>539876318Please share them with us Anon
>>539876426>has a Forces referenceWhere?
>>539876408>human body with a plastered cartoon head.Into the trash it goes, dont make my boy silver dirty with it.
>>539876318>dresshitAbsolute garbage, blobians should be ALL cartoonishly naked.
>>539876150>The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog disqualifies itselfIt's the single-best Western-made product since Mania, so I refuse, and no, I don't care about Evan's autism.
>>539876509The Forces Death Egg Robots appeared in it.
>>539876019Yes
>>539875093Silver was created thanks to that game.
>>539876579That doesn't necessarily indicate Forces is before TSR, anon.
>>539876291Shattered Crystal would be the canon game as, unlike Rise of Lyric, it is firmly placed in the Tv show canon.>>539876426TSR is before Forces as that is how Sega placed it on their official timeline.>Sonic 4 with ChaotixThat plot hole was fixed via Sonic Generation. See >>539876401 It's amazing how Sega forget that Classic Sonic is in Generations and Forces.>>539876573Blame the steam store page.
Sonic 4 has Metal Sonic's story take place after Sonic CD. So how can that game be at the end of Classic when Metal Sonic appears in Triple Trouble, Drift, and Chaotix?
>>539876150This one is wrong Replace Colors console with Colors DSDS is the canon one
>>539875093Gems are cool
>>539876797Sonic 4 was mobile shovelware
>>539876685>Blame the steam store page.Which was part of the April Fool's joke?>everything is canon*>*This is not a Sonic Team titleA super-literal reading of that WOULD DISQUALIFY EVERY NON-SONIC TEAM GAME/PRODUCT.
>>539875093Retconed blaze in a cool way
>>539874685nah, there's a ton of ports that suck dick on gamecube but are better on ps2 too. ssx, def jam, budokai, crash, true crime. it's overblown, ps2 had best games, best controller, and best support
The only way you can have Sonic 4 taking place at the end make sense if you have it that Metal Sonic was stranded on Little Planet after Mania, but then that nullifies all supplementary material that had Metal Sonic appear post-Mania.It's a mess because people are going by Sonic 4 having the Modern design when that was just a cosmetic because Sega was so anal about using the Classic one at the time. Th designs should just be ignored and just have it sometime after Sonic 3 like it originally was. Maybe Sega should just remake the game with the Classic designs and finish Episode 3.
>>539876946A literal reading of that would be to take the "everything is canon" joke seriously and ignore the note because it is not relevant (it talks about the developers, not canonicity). The sensible reading is to disregard both statements as meaningless and wait and see if later games acknowledge it or not. It is at the very least canon to IDW in a way, despite creating a continuity issue by featuring Sage before she starts to exist.
>>539874058Rouge...
there is no way murdertrannies are this patheticYour shit its as canon as Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3Just SOA garbo for april fools
>>539876808Both are canon. There's zero reason to put both on there. It'd just clutter things up more and the image is already butting heads with 4chan's size limits.>>539876946>disqualify every non-sonic team gameFunny enough, that's what Sonic Team does with all the classic games.
>>539877143You are correct, but the Modern/Classic split created so much unnecessary confusion that most people won't hear you.
>>539877251>Both are canon. There's zero reason to put both on therek thats fair then its all good
>>539876447
>>539877251How can both be canon?
Is Sonic Generations DS canon? Did Sonic defeat the Biolizard after Shadow kicked its ass?
>>539877346
>>539877251>Funny enough, that's what Sonic Team does with all the classic games.To what extent? Sonic CD's staff was not Sonic Team at all save for Naoto Ohshima.
>>539877045This post is plain fanboy fanatism
>>539877372Nothing in Colors DS actively conflicts with Colors Wii. Every event happens before the park collapses (including the fight against the Mother Wisp). Same treatment given to the 8-bit Sonic 1 & 2 games. Everything happened cause there are no conflicts.Unless you have some glaring plotholes to point out.
>>539876553Dammit Fi stop letting Sally influence you.
>>539877045>ps2 crash>goodWay to go man, your opinion can be easily discarded.
>>539877459Timey-whimy time-eating space-and-time travels means all versions of Sonic Generations are canon.
>>539877460
>>539877714i didn't say that though, did i faggot
>>539877502Sonic Team's official Classic Timeline is:Sonic 1Sonic CDSonic 2Sonic & KnucklesSonic ManiaSonic Mania PlusSonic Superstarshttps://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/worldstory/index.html#eraTitle-8Everything else is not an "Important Episode" i.e. not canon.
>>539877745
>>539877242Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3 isn't an official game
The Chaos Emeralds and other similar macguffins are permanently removed from the story, how would story go after that?
Sonic and Tails getting the idea for sex from seeing a Sonic Chao mating with a Tails Chao
>>539877796Anon, several of those are not by Sonic Team is the point.
What exactly IS wrong about Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog being canon or placed in the timeline?
>>539877143Sonic Generations happens at the end of the (original) Classic Sonic timeline. It is there that Metal Sonic Kai is re-stranded on Little Planet. This leads into him getting recovered, again, in Sonic Mania/Sonic 4 (depending if you want to split the timeline).
>>539877920Sonic Chao rejecting Amy Chao to mate with Tails Chao
>>539876163Wouldn't NiGHTS fit better in December for Christmas NiGHTS
>>539877658>Nothing in Colors DS actively conflicts with Colors WiiWell, actually...>>539877958It's American so it makes anon angry
>>539877813Why do women love to self-insert as the gay femboy?
>>539877242How dare you sully the good name of Sega of Virgin Islands the fallen.
>>539877943I don't make the rules here anon. Pointing out that Sonic Team's logic fails doesn't invalidate that they have the power to canonize shit. And in the case of 1,CD,2,&K, all had OG Sonic Team members directly working on them.To put it another way: Murder of Sonic the hedgehog is still not canon.
>>539877346Cute
>>539878060Women? This is about two straight males lusting after something feminine. This was made by men for men. Just like Tails
>>539878049What an odd thing for the DS version to change. Oh well, its irrelevant unless you are using this as an argument to de-canonize Colors DS.
>>539878284I think the cutscenes in the Wii version are animated after the English script, and we know from an interview that the English script was written near the end of the development after the Japanese original had already been written. My mostly baseless theory is that the DS version of that scene is based on the Japanese original, but the script change Pontac and Graff made was so fundamental that it affected the animation in a way that the Japanese script couldn't ignore, so they changed that part of the Japanese script to make sense with the English-based animation. I don't have a way to prove this though. I prefer the DS version being canon, I wish they incorporated it within Ultimate (and redid the script to match the Japanese original)
>>539877813Tails's deep dark fantasy
>>539877960That makes zero sense because Shadow and Silver weren't stranded in their designated boss areas.
>>539878139>doesn't invalidate that they have the power to canonize shit.Sega does that, not Sonic Team, and in Sega's eyes, "canon" is synonymous with "official."
>>539878517>Shadow and Silver>strandedWhere did you get this shit from?>>539878547Non-sequitur. Sonic Team = Sega
>>539878758>Non-sequitur. Sonic Team = Sega
>>539878193The artist is an autistic jap lady
>>539878758>Where did you get this shit from?You saying Metal Sonic was stranded in his boss area.
>>539878848Still a non-sequitor.
>Sonic 06 is on breaking bad HOLY KINO....
>>539879161I like how they play the multiplayer.
This thread is fucking GAY
>>539880085Post STRAIGHT then
>>539879035Metal Sonic got blown the fuck up, yes.
>>539880129Erm, sweetie this ship is problematic...
Sonic games are fun
>>539880472This ship is so STRAIGHT it gets people in straight relationships
Dream!
>>539880732That's autistic as hell, but whatever makes them happy I guess.
Look at this clancker
>>539881090brazilian ass motherfucker
Man this little demo was fun but I wish they didn't change the voices. Sonic sounds like someone's first Jason Griffith impression and Blaze sounds way too "girly".
>>539881910>blaze voice is "too" girlySo playing as blaze is objectively improved
>>539881910Japanese voices my nigga.
>We're finally getting a Sonic/Ninja Turtles crossover.>It's the Mutant Mayhem uggos.At least it's just for synergy. I mean an actual TMNT crossover would involve merchandise like all the other ones they had (Likely Jakks releasing two-packs consisting of Team Sonic with a corresponding turtle like the Justic League ones along with Metal Sonic with Shredder and Eggman with Krang in his robot suit if he gets used).
>>539882014No, blaze must be as dyke as possible or else she'll lose her faggot fanbase
>>539882083Not in the demo
>>539882486What? Yes it is? Should be there it's there on ps5
Everyone sleeping.
All's well that ends fucking bad lol humaniggers drowned LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Holding anon's balls.
>>539883840There should always be at least one human in every sonic game to remind people they occupy the same world. They don't even have to do anything just have them walk by and say "excuse me" and walk off screen so people can go "oh yeah humans live in that world too". Eggman just feels out of place otherwise.
>>539883840I don't know if it was how he was localized or dubbed back then, but I liked how Tails came off as a sperg who sometimes couldn't read the room despite being such a super genius.
At this point I just want human background characters out of spite for the kinds of people who kept claiming they don't fit in Sonic
>>539884140I don't know what kind of autism is pushing SoJ into muh separated worlds in not just one but 3 fucking iterations, now besides sonic X you got the movie and whatever the fuck is the post-forces sonic timeline.
>>539884283I want Blobian and Human background and main characters.Two worlds was a mistake.
>>539868341It's made clear, repeatedly, that Mephiles only came back through White Space, just like Iblis did, and that he'd return to nonexistence with Iblis once the Time Eater was destroyed.Even when he was in White Space, he was in a secret section of Shadow's White Space, locked behind a Boss Gate and in the Scepter of Darkness, he only got out long enough to get his ass kicked by Shadow and put back in the Scepter, now incapable of breaking out of it.He's gone, that was the whole point of 06's ending, Solaris, the being from which Mephiles and Iblis came from, was erased from the time and therefor never existed in the first place, meaning Mephiles and Iblis additionally never existed, confirmed by Mephiles desperately saying "I want to exist" as Shadow defeats him.
Drew Rouge and wanna share, here you go broshttps://files.catbox.moe/gqyua8.png
>>539884475Boobies!
>>539884332The manga has humans, though. The movies are the result of the Meta Era shit where they wanted to world separated. The movies originally wanted Sonic to be from Earth. IDW is just run by furries who champion the western "canon" where humans besides Eggman were frowned upon for existing. The games don't have any human NPCs yet because they haven't created new models for them and just recycle blobian Forces models.
>>539884475Nice fat bat tats.
>>539884332IDW is the way it is because it's written almost entirely by people who grew up on Archie
>>539882169Considering the Naruto/TMNT crossover comic, I think it's for the best that their only interaction so far is brandslop.
>>539884427>confirmed by Mephiles desperately saying "I want to exist" as Shadow defeats him.Cruel. The dude knew he was erased and feels existential dread from it.
Bob the Sponge
>>539884634And the weird thing is Archie had humans. But I think it's because they were treated as a minority wheres the rest of the planet was full of animal people. In the games -- at least early on, the humans were the majority while blobians seemed to be the minority.
>>539884671>try to erase all of time and space>instead get erased from all of time and spaceKarma more like.
>>539884547>IDW is just run by furries who champion the western "canon"They're all archiefaggots and it puzzles me how they don't want humans and fluffies in the same world, fucking shiteaters.
>>539884228sega of america has been consistently shit at localization since the 90s, its incredible
>>539885017Archie and Satam had humans but I don't think their fandoms like any of those humans
>>539884790That wasn't the case 'early on' in the games. The classic era was dominated by its blobian cast. It wasn't until the adventure era, which was over half a decade into Sonic's life that the games would establish humans as the 'dominant' species of select locations on the planet, such as Station Square.Archie adapting Station Square as the 'only locations with humans as the dominant population' was entirely fair when that's how the world in the games had been depicted up until that point.A lot of Adventure Babies ignore the actual history of "Sonic the Hedgehog" to promote their narratives. Narratives which often exist to promote a vision of Sonic more in line with either X or Adventure 2 that ignores what came before. It is bad faith and deserves to be called out for how blatantly wrong it was.Western and eastern media throughout the entire classic era, with notable exceptions like Man of the Year, portrayed Sonic's world as full of blobians with incidental human characters. See: AoSTH, SatAM, Shogakukan, OVA, etc.
>>539885069SatAM didn't have a population of humans from what I remember. There was just Robotnik, Snively, and that one wizard guy. They were supposed to introduce the original Nate Morgan in the show if it continued. So that would've made four humans. Either way, the small number was enough for SatAMfags to completely dismiss humans within the franchise.Archie at first their own version of humans called "Overlanders", whom had ranged from having exaggerated appearances to looking like anime characters and had four fingers until Adventure came along and they introduced actual humans who created a whole society in an empty volcano.
>>539885378>That one wizard guyNaugus wasn't even human. He had an intentionally ambiguous species with several animalistic traits.It's also not like SatAM's the only media 'guilty' of this either. The OVA has blobians as the primary characters as well with the only human being the president, his daughter is debatably human but appears to be a human blobian hybrid more than anything else.
>>539885280Underground and Aosth have non Eggman humans but no one cares
>>539885569He isn't talking about Naugus
>>539885591>AoSTHThat's why I said incidental humans. There were humans, they just weren't established as the 'primary background cast' until adventure. Arguably Man of the Year is the first time we see this but that was for theme parks, not games, It was only included in the games later.
>>539885280The Classic Sonic had humans. It wasn't introduced in Adventure. It was showing what was always supposed to be there.https://youtu.be/LMceVbENQK4?si=whU56BTIeGdB_qyC
>>539885694Oh right, Lazar. I forgot about him. He's a really forgettable character, honestly.>>539885783I literally mentioned Man of the Year. There's no reason to try and fact check me with it. Man of the Year was for theme parks, not the games. The classic sonic games primarily depicted blobians.
YOU N AUGUS
/sthg/ doesnt have hype moments and aura
>>539885858Now this, should be Blazes villain
Who the fuck cares about NPCs?
>>539885845>The classic sonic games primarily depicted blobians.Only Sonic and his designated cast. You never saw a population of blobians in the games until Forces.
>>539885280>That wasn't the case 'early on' in the games. The classic era was dominated by its blobian cast. It wasn't until the adventure era, which was over half a decade into Sonic's life that the games would establish humans as the 'dominant' species of select locations on the planet, such as Station Square.The classic era was focused on secret islands no one knew about, of course humans were rare
>>539885924I actually agree with this. Introducing the fantasy world elements from SatAM into the Sol Dimension would be a great way to 'soft reboot' SatAM continuity into the game canon, provide a contrast between Sonic and Blaze's dimension (Sonic's world having mostly humans, Blaze's world having mostly blobians), and I could easily see Bunnie and Antoine, or expies of them, working very well in Blaze's world. Too bad Ian has no interest in the Sol Dimension or worldbuilding it despite SEGA giving him free reign.>>539885962Yes, and the designated cast implied a population ratio of blobians higher than humans. Especially counting the game gear titles.
>>539886109Wanting to turn Blaze's dimension into discount SatAM is literally Ian-minded aka hackery.
>>539875093It gave Sega some spanking to not to be too greedy and abusive to it's employers
Shin TDOSTH when?
>>539871759Least schizo Amyfag
>>539886037>no one knew aboutYou're objectively wrong.>>539886182If it was Ian minded, he would've done it. He hasn't. He's neglected Blaze entirely.
Silverfags are in no position of power to give Silver any content like Shadowfags do with Shadow now. Silverfags are mostly just artsy-fartsy female shippers who are terminally online, with Evan being the only exception, but look at how much of a wreck her storytelling and characterizations are.
>>539886405Evan is also an artsty-fartst female shipper who is terminally online. She doesn't leave her house and she attended art school. She's the exact archetype you're critiquing.
>>539886454I think he means Evan's the only one that got anywhere (debatable)
>>539885924>>539886109
>>539886454She works for Sega (as an artist), though. So she's a step above the rest of her kin.
>>539886405>like Shadowfags do with Shadow now.>Shadouge and Shadamy where Shadow acts like sonic that doesn't smileHomie i don't think they did anything other then being terminally online but in a worse way.
I hate when shadamyfags make Shadow refer Amy exclusively as Rose
>>539886553>No Blazefag has the right idea>Silvazefags are the ones that gives her good storiesJesus christ...
>>539886590>New game>A movie>Animation where he beat Sonic in a race>Will eventually get a spinoff from the moviesNigga, it's all right in front of you.
Now that i think about it, Empress Shade is a badass concept, gotta draw her on the throne in imperial clothes
>>539886553>Just give her the SatAM villain, bro!This is just like Silver taking Eggman Nega. Creatively bankrupt.
>>539886678She will lead Nocturnus Clan like Omniman did Viltrumites in the Invincible comic
>>539886405Gigi also is a SilverfagBarnes also promised to fix himIan closed his Sonic Bumblekast because of a Silverfag so idk what would come out of this
>>539886187and they did it again less than a decade later
>>539886672Anon, anon we're talking about the fags not the company
>>539886312>picPeople knew AFTER sonic and eggman fought there
Marriage
>>539886869>IDW issue 76 was planned before the bumblecast got shanked>IDW issue 79 was planned after the bumblecast was shankedMotherfucker...
>>539886869>Gigi also is a SilverfagI've read her fancomic. She's an Uwuver-believer.>Barnes also promised to fix himI've heard too many promises from IDW to believe any of them by this point.
>>539886635Have some in-game halflid shadamy, you nerd!
>>539887265Shadow looks drunk and Amy is just watching
it's canon that sonic can be defeated if a bunch of people stomp him at once
>>539887009Anon that's gay
>>539887370They don't even have to be real
Nothing more dangerous than a crackshipper who actually does understand the Japanese characterizations
>>539886635"Le nicknames" are always an irrefutable sign thatt you are dealing with a fucking idiotKnux, Vex, Ames, Blue Blur, Faker... disgusting putrid garbage like that
>>539867853Blaze being Tails + Amy + Knuckles = Nega-Sonic is not a problem, really. Sonic Rush throwing everybody else under the bus just so it can ONLY have Sonic & Blaze in the spot light is definitely not the best way to handle it at all, yeah, but Blaze herself shouldn't be blamed for it. The actual ideal scenario is if Sonic Rush just built off the Advance series and had them all playable. Or, if Blaze was in Sonic Adventure in place of Big (maybe Big can still be there as a bonus side thing, but not mandatory), as another story campaign alongside Tails, Amy and Knuckles and Gamma.
>>539887572What about "Eggman"?
>>539887572Big blue is great
>>539887391
>>539887572Knux is good i dont have time to write Knucklehead every fucking time
>Turns you into a clanker
Sonurgefag reputation: Rape fetish people who hate both characters Sonurgefag content: Wook Sonic gave Surge a pwetty flower to put in her hair before they dance romantically in a beautiful ballroom!Don't come at me I don't even read idw
>>539887586>>Sonic Rush throwing everybody else under the bus just so it can ONLY have Sonic & Blaze in the spot light is definitely not the best way to handle it at all,Slop 4 is not a thing.>b...but they are the main castSONIC is the main cast. and nowadays sometimes Shadow. Blaze was the main cast in Rush because that game was about her. everyone else is supporting
>>539887835nope
>>539887943Blaze is shit and turned everyone into shit after her being a main, you get it now fag?
Fuck FemdowMarry FemverKill Femnic
Stop calling me Coca-'Cole.
>>539888068Not her fault the others are easily replaceable / disposable
>>539871518Matpat retired and gave the Theory channels to new hosts that he trained.
>>539888107PeePee in your Coca-'Cole Rmao
>>539888126
>>539888126they aren't, and it's funny we're having this conversation over blaze, when her last two big appearances were the kart racer with spongebob and the fall guys clone that's never coming out
Gun.
>>539887691I'm not doing whisperanon thingy but please stop turning boys into girls
Help! Sonic's bubblebath went wrong!
>>539888317Ayo dis the illegal chink bitch?Gimme yer rarest Chaos Cola!
full on penetrative sex with vanilla the rabbit (canon appearance + accoutrements viz. blobfeet etc)
>>539888417They're going to turn Emmy into mean lesbian coded character I'm sure of it. All you amyniggers are going to do mass suicide
>>539888960The first kid was so good so I bet the second'll be even better, here you go plap plap get pregnant uwooooooah!>the second kid turns out to be completely retarded
>>539889209Stop triggering my impregnation kink.
>>539889039they already fucked up sonic, it wouldn't be a shock for me
>>539889209this artist tried to cancel someone for drawing tikal lewds despite drawing tails porn
I love Shadria...Lanceria...?
>>539889209depends on the dad too i guess
Moviedow is so cute. I want to grab him and set him on my lap and pet his soft velvety fur and kiss his forehead. Why did they make him adorable? Is it to lure humans into danger?
You can now only post ITT if your fav can solo carry a game.Ah ah ah, not so fast tailsfags
Fuck it. I'm going to defend movienic. He literally only has two problems with his characterization >Constant pop culture references >Living with and depending on his parents That's LITERALLY it. And you can argue that those things severely alter his character but the parent thing only comes into play for the opening act of the movie. When the actual Adventure kicks in, Movie Sonic is consistently portrayed as the most level headed and personally responsible character. he is written as and acknowledged in universe to be an inspiration to those around him who has incredible wisdom for someone so young.The annoying marvel humor isn't going away, unfortunately its effective for normies and frankly not that far off from how Sonic currently speaks in IDW, Prime, and the englsih dubbed games.The parent thing sucks and hopefully they get rid of it soon. It's a leftover from the first movie when they had 0 confidence in the Sonic brand standing on its own.
>>539889792Shitdow can't carry shit.
>>539880741It autistically annoys me when people draw or describe Shadow's fingers as red. His stripe doesn't go down to the ends of his hands, it tapers off near the wrist. Same goes for the leg stripes, which taper off near the ankle.
>>539889942>Tails awkwardly hover handing sonics arm>Cream full on rubbing his big ole headCream is too confident!
>>539889942i honestly have more problem with that lanolin sneak instead of tails being among girls
>>539889942I hate all these shitty OCs. they drain the magic from Sonic's world completely.
>listen to Silver's Rival voice lines in Crossworlds>Eggman and Sage fail and are mostly forgotten>Metal Sonic is still a threatMetal Chadnic will outlive Eggman, Sage and Sonic unless Potential Man's spoilers ruined that. BASED
>>539889942I love all these based OCs. they fill with magic Sonic's world completely.
>>539889795On one of the older whiteboards Scribbs suggested that most western Sonics are the product of American writers hearing that Sonic is a teenager and then projecting childlike traits onto him that remind them of the kids in their life instead of imagining "teenager" from the target audience's perspective and I can't quite shake that. I wonder if that's why the ages got removed. It's only the western writers that ever make Sonic being a kid integral to his behavior.
>>539890219Potential man called him the most dangerous thing
>>539890219>Metal and Silver working together in the future to overthrow Sage but when it's done Metal turns on SilverImagine
>next arc is belle torture porn with Sage calling Belle a disgusting subrobotcan't wait!
>>539890262I have a better idea. Western sensibilities inherently get in the way of writing Sonic characters. No western writers should be appointed to write Sonic.It isn't physically impossible for a western writer to "get it" but let's be serious. The average person in the writing profession. Who is interested in Sonic likely knows him from Satam or the movies and that will impact how they write him negatively.
>>539889368Thats not a kink you fucking retard thats biology
>>539890219>Silver ruins his own future again by hyping up Zavok and Metal and motivating SageSILVER YOU FUCKING IDIOT
>>539890485This but unironically
The Silver Future Sage shit sucks stop it
>>539890614They won't create him an adventure to tackle alone might as well do it himself
>>539889795Movienic is bottom bitch boy for Knuckles big red cock and Shado big black cock
>>539890614he has the nasty habit of making things worse
>>539882319Good. She should lose her faggot fanbae in favor of a striaght male cat fucker fanbase
>>539890748How is he doing that with closed eyes
>>539890262The ages were also very, to be frank, JAPANESE. In addition to age of consent being a newer concept, in Japan, it's a lot more normal for 18-year olds to be hanging out with 8-year olds than in the West. That's why Sonic can be a mid/late-teen who considers Tails his best friend, which in the West got adopted (and later adapted back) as Sonic treating Tails as like a li'l bro. That's why ~8/14 isn't a weird time for girls to be crushing on Sonic.Very Japanese... TOO Japanese...!
>>539890871Anyone who watches anime would probably hit this conclusion
>>539890723Sage becomes eggmom and has a plan to control the world with her breastmilk that has nanomachines in it that controls the brain, Silver must defeat her by impregnating her and sucking her dry since he's immune to mind control
>>539890748>amy wears cute glasses>sonic drops all his ships to plap amyThis is how Sonamy won.
>people went mad over this
>>539891115I still believe that modern fans who cry at anything sexual are an improvement over how this fandom acted in the 2000s. People acted as if the idea of sexualizing Rouge was disgusting even though they were down for it too.
>>539890262That's probably right. Just a reminder that tweens do not like being treated like babies. They will actively go out of their way to seek out content that makes them feel "mature" and "cool" (for example, all of those CoD kiddies). When you make Sonic or Silver or whoever act like a baby, that's not cool to them, "relatableness" for the sake of it is not cool. And if the writer making Sonic "relatable" is a loser, they'll make him a loser too, because that's what's relatable to them. The ages should just be a cool little trivia fact, not the basis for the characters' entire personality. This franchise would ironically attract more young fans if it leaned a bit harder into that shonen-esque semi-serious tone they had in the early 2000's.
>>539891115What's this?
>>539890485As a Belle fan I need it.
>>539891115YesShe shouldnt be modeled with half lidded eyes
>>539890591>I have a better idea. Western sensibilities inherently get in the way of writing Sonic characters. No western writers should be appointed to write Sonic.How well is Sonic selling in Japan again?
>>539889942MARINEEEEE!
>>539891263This is why someone like Evan or Gigi talking about "Relatablility" is VERY BAD
>>53989111506 solidified Blaze's flatness as a major character trait. It's an issue that is in the same realm as Rouge having her cleavage removed.
>>539891415Sonic Prime is absolute dogshit because it writes Sonic as if he was a child.
>>539889368>>539890604
Are Mobians edible?
>>539891115I know people are gonna miscontrue this heavily. But blaze should not have pants on, with all the running and spinning she does its simply impractical, the pants would rip themselves right off from friction or even get burned off with her fire powers, its so gay and stupid.
>>539891950>I know people are gonna miscontrue this heavily. But blaze should not have pants onYOUNG LADY TAKE THOSE CLOTHES OFF **RIGHT NOW**
>>539891637lol no she's flat through and through, nice bait anyway
>>539890871This is a concept that western writers do understand, it just colors their perspective when you present the character as aBio first.Ben 10 and Ash Ketchum are children and the average person writing them understands that they can do most things without super vision even if they have named parental figures in their life.Sonic's characterization is all over the place and if you grew up consuming things like Sonic Saturday morning you won't actually have your perception of him changed in the games because the whole "He's a vagabond who doesn't stay in one place for a long time" trait is not very well illustrated. This is how you have productions like Death Battle mistakenly treating Satam as canon. Westerners absolutely understand that a cartoon character's age is sometimes just an arbitrary number meant to give them a handful of very minor traits, but most writers in general have very little experience with Sonic.
>>539891913Anon Sally's vagina is visible in this image you should delete it.
>>539891115>"Blaze is an amazing character with an amazing story and world!">proceeds to only use her for pornEven in crossworlds her theme is full of moans that they removed in rush, glad Sega is becoming aware of what she's made for
>>539891913I can see it...
>>539890485We need an updated version of this webm where Sage is the one that throws her into the chipper
>>539892252That's just a tuft of fur anon, you can't see her bits even when she's naked.
sex boob
>>539892359are you some kind of idiot
MIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>539891263Additionally, children tend to perceive older children and teenagers as more mature. Once you become an adult, this perspective shifts, a teenager is no longer viewed as someone older and wiser but rather as someone younger and less experienced. Consequently, many adults tend to underestimate the intelligence and maturity of teenagers, which often results in content creators who will unintentionally reduce a teenage character's mental maturity by a few years. I distinctly recall being in 2nd grade and perceiving the 5th graders as responsible and mature.I think that ensuring these characters are presented as COOL should take priority over focusing on their ages. It's not important if this isn't entirely realistic IRL, this is Sonic the Hedgehog.
What if they aged up Cream but she stayed small. Like a perpetual munchkin. That way she wouldn't be anchored down by her mom but not lose any of her cuteness factor.
>>539892438You're right, she has shoes so she's not quite naked, my bad.
>>539892085That's what I mean, Blaze was always designed to be flat, but those internal documents for 06 canonized Blaze acknowledging that flatness. They made Blaze's flatness a part of Sonic's World rather than just a character design choice independent of lore.
>>539892592Any character dating Shadow would become a pedophile when they turned into an adult because Shadow is permanently a teenager. Amy is a groomer.
>>539892604Stop making shit up please, you don't know what you're talking about. Typical lolcow behavior.
>>539890262I would like to believe that ages being removed means that future Sonic cartoons don't have the writers go "Sonic is 15? So he is like my 15 year old who doesn't clean his room and needs help with his homework and cries about getting dumped?" but the movies have firmly established in the zeitgeist that Sonic is not only a teenager but a teenager from the perspective of an adult.That being an immature, irrational, underdeveloped, easily boored pop culture referencing adult-bewildering puffball.
>go and finish off Shadow Generations>perfect, 10/10, feels great to play>try packaged Sonic Generations after not completing the original release>feels like shit, modern Sonic is awful to controlwhat the fuck? Is it just me? I don't remember the original release being this bad.
>>539892726>Shadow is permanently a teenagerno?
>>539892604I think this is a big deal. Sonic is the idea of a teenager to a little kid. To an adult we shouldn't even pay mind to that. real teenagers are still definitely immature kids but that's not what Sonic is supposed to represent.
>>539892692Good
>>539891263This is why Uwuver pisses me off. Both versions of it. The GOTF Uwuver is just Evan projecting her own idea of relatability onto Silver. The IDW Uwuver is Evan writing "A cute 14 year old boy" from the perspective of a grown woman. She's completely killed the appeal of him to an actual kid.He is a reminder of how adults actually see teenagers. The same garbage happened to modern Spider-man.
>>539893267
>>539893393Cute ship
>>539883840
>>539872185Rebooting Outrun to be about Sonic dating human women.
>>539893583
>>539893738outrun is a precious jewel and i will not allow this
>Blaze doesn't like being flat>boobs get bigger when women are lactating>lactation produces more milk based on demandmuch to think about
>>539892692>internal documents>canonized
Hmm
>>539892737The hell are you talking about? You never been a kid before, or did you hit your head so hard you developed amnesia on top of your crippling retardation?>>539892896Yeah, that's exactly right. Sonic is supposed to represent coolness. But that's when we run into a second error writers make, particularly western writers. Sonic is someone who is EFFORTLESSLY cool. He does not need to actively try to be cool. Writers in the states will read the word "cool" and think that means constant tryhard quipping and "in-the-know" pop culture references, and since said writer is actually a middle-aged adult they often aren't exactly "in-the-know" themselves. This results in "how do you do, fellow kids?"-esque writing that's often somewhat obnoxious, like in Movienic's case.Sonic does not have to try to be cool. He just is cool. He's amazing. This isn't to say he can never ever ever make quips, but said quips are not necessary in order for Sonic to be cool. We see this in the CD intro. >>539893236Yep. Uwuver acts like he's 10. I wouldn't be surprised if this phenomenon is partially why they removed the ages, since clearly we cannot handle a number being attached to the character without either misinterpreting them or trying to kill each other over the ethics of shipping/sexualizing cartoon rats.
>>539891263>>539893236Reminds me of the current cartoon trend of the main audience surrogate kid characters going into """adventures""" while their damn mom is just a few steps behind as a chaperoneToday's nepo writers are so absurdly disconnected from their audience it's not even funnyNo child wants to have their parents around 24/7, ESPECIALLY when there's cool dangerous shit around, because the mom will be (understandably, but that's besides the point) a total fucking killjoy about it, because it's DANGEROUSEither that, or her adult humor will ruin the vibeEspecially if she's written by a wine aunt, who only knows how to write wine auntsClimbing trees, fighting monsters, saving the world, and other power fantasy stuff like thatYou can't be a cool hero if your mom/aunt/whatever comes to wipe your face every five seconds, or constantly interrupt the flow with some other dumb boring hag shitI hate to sound like a broken record, but, this is why all youngsters keep consuming either brainrot, or animeCartoons, comics and movies have completely failed them at being power fantasiesSomething that every healthy kid needsSomething to aspireSomething to look up toHave all these assholes completely forgotten about their own childhood?Or was their childhood just that fucking lame?
>>539889795unfortunately the pop culture references are built into Movie Sonic because that's how he coped with Longclaw's death. I don't know what they were thinking shifting from a buddy cop situation to a father son situation.
Still waiting for IDW to introduce a male hero.
>>539894781They did introduce a new male character. He just looks like Silver and has the same name.
>>539888960>>539889209Anyone from here fathering a little baby bunny with Vanilla would bring forth a psycho/sociopathic little gremlin that would have none of Vanilla's redeeming qualities. It might even be the antichrist. Nobody in /sthg/ should reproduce.
>>539895062>Nobody in /sthg/ should reproduce.Too late anon, I became a teenparent back when I still had my looks and prospects.
I want Shadow to get me pregnant bros...plapplapplapplapplap hejjihoggu sexooo
>>539894781IDW already has two.
