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>>539890306
>does he have void attacks too
only the melee one
>he's unironically one of the easiest bosses in the game
well I'm bad at this kind of game, I actually tried fighting him in Act 2 but then had the bug happen where he didn't return after flying away so I forgot about him
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Do a Steel Soul run, its fun!
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Just downloaded silk song. I'm at mosshome. Game is mid I don't know I'll keep playing.
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Act 3 was created specifically for people who complained that Silksong was too colorful, upbeat, cheerful and optimistic.
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>>539891424
Hornet is a remarkably optimistic character throughout the entire act so I think it balances out and never feels too hopeless. Except for Zaza's quest...
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as it turns out Seth Goldman from credits isn't some jew who gave extra money at kickstarter to make this game gay, and thus special credits, but instead is some kid who died from cancer. this game truly is teeming with secrets!
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>>539891528
>red spider friend!
:(
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>>539891054
i fucking did it, this fight genuinely sucked ass
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>miss one jump and you die: the level
How fun
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>>539892386
LITERALLY sucked ass :^)
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>>539892012
Very strange image to post about a game filled with woke feminism.
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>>539892414
That area is extremely fun, I agree!
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Speedrun cheevo done in 4:28:08. Did not expect to get it on the first try, I was just testing the route, but I'll take it.
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>>539894689
normal ending? scrub
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>>539891203
I've done about 30. If there was ever anything to be changed about Steel Soul it's putting the sprint upgrade right where you fell.
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>>539895190
>I've done about 30.
On one hand thank christ I don't have this kind of autism, on the other hand I'm envious that I'm unable to enjoy things to such an extent.
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I'm getting filtered by Last Judge. Just genuinely can't find good moments to get some damage in, and I die by attrition.
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>>539895479
Which phase?
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How many tries did it take for you guys to beat the Act 3 final boss?
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>>539895312
If fighting Moss Mother over and over is considered enjoyable to you then I think you're the one that has autism
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>>539896291
Is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha?
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Did the abyss escape sequence first try, shit was intense though.
Also has anyone tried playing the Needolin to Lost Garmond before attacking him? All the posts I've read seem to indicate he's meant to die but I was wondering if there was a hidden way to save him
Act 3 spoilers btw
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>>539896424
No, not really. It's a comment on the first 10-20 minutes of each run being extremely fucking boring with nothing happening. It's only fun after Widow.
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>>539894689
I thought it would be much tighter but I got there in 3 hours with a bunch of deaths in the High Halls arena, it wasnt nearly as sweaty as I thought it would be. Fun speedgame.
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>>539896575
Yes, it doesn't work.
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>>539892386
What's in the ladle?
Why does that creature have two spines?
Why does that creature have such a thick outer layer of fat like a whale?
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>>539896768
It gets fun when you get dash, same as Hollow Knight. The difference is the only fun bosses in the Hollow Knight speedrun are Hornet, Watcher Knights and Hollow Knight. Meanwhile Silksong has:
>Widow
>Phantom
>Cogwork Dancers
>Trobbio
>Lace 2
Hell, even Wingmoor is kinda fun to get good at.
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>>539896940
Yeah, the 5 hour limit is more than generous. I ate a lot of shit to some of the bosses and especially the High Halls fight, and I lost a lot of time to the Mist due to continually falling into the bottomless pits. I'm sure I could get it close to 2 hours with practice, but I'm content just getting the achievement. The 100% speedrun is going to suck, though.
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>>539895796
second phase. The first one is easy enough, but the additional fire in the second phase makes positioning rough. I have to focus too much on not taking damage.
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So, which one will come out as a troon?
Considering all the trannybait writing and platforming in Silksong
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Is there anything interesting to do with Plasmified assistant dude besides killing him?
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>>539897220
You could fight fun bosses and get true ending in Hollow Knight and still get the speedrun achievement.
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>>539897639
rent free
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>>539897398
Yeah I dont know if I'll do that one for a long time, I'd rather attempt the Steel Soul 100% achievement first and take it slow and even then I think it will be a while. But I was seeing that some people are speedrunning the True Ending in under 5 hours which seems insane. So I'll be curious to see the routing develop for 100%.

>>539897639
Meds
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>>539897717
You can apparently kill him in like 3-4 syringe hits with the quest tool but I just Shaman'd him to death. Easily the most boring boss in the game, I dont think it even had music. Cool aesthetic at least.
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>>539897135
>What's in the ladle?
food
>Why does that creature have two spines?
Because it's a weird bug
>Why does that creature have such a thick outer layer of fat like a whale?
Because fat keeps you warm in cold areas and also lets you store energy
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>>539897639
They only did it because of their noses.
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>>539893584
there's a difference between blatant and well written, you're currently in the schizo category
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>>539897885
>speedrunning the True Ending in under 5 hours
Is that even possible? I thought you had to finish damn near everything to trigger the Act 3 quest.
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>>539897639
is that their office, and are those like 10 locks on their front door?
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>>539897717
>>539898057
From what I heard every phial hit remove 250 of his max hp permanently (even if you return to a bench).
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>>539898261
>its not woke feminism because I like it
Hornet is a mary sue, 90% of the characters are badass women, all the weavers are women, all the citadel leaders are women and all the men are cucks or gay. Hornet even gets an abortion.
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>>539898432
Seems awfully easy to do away with someone infected by the big scary plasmium..
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>>539898439
>all the weavers are women, all the citadel leaders are women and all the men are cucks or gay
Wait until you get a load of male spiders or male insects in general lmao.
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>>539898580
>not a single piece of lore about Deepnest's king who died
The ultimate cuckold...
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do i need double jump or something to finish mount fey? there's a series of crystal bugs you have to jump on and from the last one you have to get to a ledge but i'm not even close
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>>539898330
Nta but I just found a 5 hours and eleven minutes speedrun.
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the climb to the surface took me embarrassingly many attempts.
starting floating too close to a small surface will make you gently bounce off instead of grab on
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>>539898330
Yeah but they skip like every non essential upgrade, so they're doing Karmelita and Lost Lace at 5 masks and 2 nail upgrades. The any% times are like an hour and ten minutes so thats around 4 hours of wiggle room.

>>539898432
Thats interesting, thanks for sharing. I'll try that out next time.
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>>539898768
No you can do it all with the hookshot.
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>>539897220
You're proving my point: every boss you listed is after Widow. Every other boss beforehand is a fucking tutorial boss.
>Moss Mother teaches the basics of combat, Lace is the same but more advanced and faster
>Bell Beast, Moorwing, and Sister Splinter teach you not to touch the enemy or their attack because it will deal 2 damage
>Fourth Chorus and teach how to use abilities (float) in combat
>Widow is the culmination of everything you've learned so far
Also, dashing isn't fun when the area you get it in and the next area is a place with lava pits that deal 2 damage so you're forced to be slow and careful instead of zipping around without a care in the world.
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>>539899085
okay, thanks. this fucking area is pure cancer lol
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>>539897885
I cannot unsee this anymore.
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>>539899265
Moss Mother is done in 5 seconds, Bell Beast and Lace are fine and you can skip Fourth Chorus.
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>>539899267
Another one filtered by Mt Kino...
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>>539899376
>you can skip Fourth Chorus.
By grinding 500 rosaries for a Simple Key. It's faster to get Drifter's Cloak and kill him.
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>>539898580
dangerous sex with hornet
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>>539899267
it's fun and not that hard compared to the harder platforming you'll do later in the game
keep in mind that your clawline is a versatile super-airdash, it's not just a grappling hook
the reward for Mount Fay is very worth it, btw. don't give up
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>>539899537
No you can literally run and glide past it, you can look it up. The camera is locked but you can move outside the arena. And you can skip Sister Splinter really easily too via taunting a bug down with Garama and using it to pogo in the room with the harp.
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>>539898439
That's all proof of your degenerated mind, my advice for you is to either stop using the internet for a few weeks or exclusively use /v/ from now on
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>>539899594
>very worth it
i mean, isnt it necessary to progress the game?
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>>539899705
>cant argue against any of the points
lol
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>>539899736
to get an ending? no
to get every ending? yes
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>>539899265
Sister also teaches to kill adds with silkskills.
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>>539892386
If there's three chefs, why do only two attack you
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>>539899838
I find it pointless to fight against mental illness, that's trying to cure the symptoms and not the disease
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>>539899838
>noooooo you HAVE to argue against my mental illness! YOU HAVE TOOOOOO!!!
lol
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>>539900131
>>539900134
If you dont think the game has clear feminist themes you are mentally ill or coping hard.
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>>539900202
have you considered discussing the thing you want to discuss like a normal functioning individual
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>>539900202
>the game has clear feminist themes
It does. Who the fuck cares?
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>>539900275
>have you considered discussing feminst themes in a video game on 4chan
LOL
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>>539900202
See, you completely missed the point of the argument, you are maliciously misunderstanding shit to force a discussion
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>>539900340
rekt
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>the two main GOTY candidates are both woke
Its over...
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>>539900691
not like this bros..
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Still waiting for some low% autist to get through the mist without needolin
Has any hacker tested what happens if you trigger a scripted needolin scene without actually having it? I wonder if it would softlock the game or if it would just work fine regardless
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>>539901165
Maybe you get fun alternate dialogue like when you start a runescape quest with all of the required quest items already in your inventory.
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>>539901057
>no mention of Ze'mer Mourner/Traitor's daughter
What a casual
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VUU LEEH LAAE LAAE!
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>>539901265
Is it supposed to be crying? Because its the last judge?
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>>539901165
the mist doesn't require the needolin, there are some ways to do it with educated guesses or even bruteforce
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>>539901165
You can skip needolin on certain screens (3rd screen and I think the 6th screen) because it always works out to being a side path. And I think there is a trick to shuffle the rooms too if you get a bad layout, but I'm not super knowledgable on the Mist strats.
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>scuttles infront of you in you're path
Your response?
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>you can beat Last Judge, get a nice Citadel intro cutscene, then leave and beat Phantom and enter the backway and get a second nice Citadel intro cutscene
Neat
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>>539901387
probably regrets having to kill the pilgrims
I thought she was going to be shakra's master
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>>539901695
flat. made for sticking to surfaces. soon to evolve into a leech no doubt.
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>>539896575

You did save him anon
He's just resting
He'll get up from his short nap soon...
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>>539898349
They gotta keep the in irl life bugs out
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>>539901265
hornet should burn that judge larvae nest to the ground. drop enough pimpillos down the hole to level that ravine or something
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I have all maps and pins, and she doesn't offer anything. the chat just shuts down. how do I fight her?
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>>539899694
Very cute hornets
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>>539902123
exit bellhart through the right side
need to complete her quest first
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Will giving greyroot that crying baby bud thing lock me out of anything other than the normal ending, like some NPC or something (idc about the normal ending since I am pining for the true ending act 3 anyways? Will it brick my save? But is there an NPC you need to talk to or quest before getting the Witch Crest?
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>>539897639
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>>539902365
It locks you out of nothing, it's needed to get a special ending when you beat the boss with it, then you have to remove it to get another ending
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>>539902365
no, you can do whatever you want
reminder, you can beat the game to get the achievement, reload the save and get cursed to beat the game, reload the save, get cured, and then enter act 3
that's what I did
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>>539897885
I wish had a wall carpet of that image or something hanging in my room. Gives off a good energy. But the print has to be in thread not paper.
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>>539900202
Motherhood is not feminism
Half of the female characters fuck up massively. Especially the weavers and GMS, who caused half of Pharloom to die, disappear, get polluted to the point of the water being equivalent to vomit, etc. The npcs you meet that are "heckin strong whymyn" are portayed as good because most of the non haunted are portrayed as good, male and female.
Men are never put down or portrayed in a negative light in order to make women look better
Hornet is a very respectful person who constantly refers to bugs as "sir" and "madam"
She's also a well rounded character with personality beyond being a "girlboss" (but you wouldn't know about that because you didn't play the game)
Seek help
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>>539902227
there it is! thanks!
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>>539902365
finishing that quest to get Witch Crest doesn't doesn't lock you out of anything EXCEPT the hidden cursed ending. If you want that ending you want to keep the crying bud until right before the final boss, then get cursed, then beat the final boss for the cursed ending, then get uncursed and continue your playthrough
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>>539902365
It doesn't lock you out of the normal ending
It starts a quest where you're significantly weaker for some time until you finish it. There alt. Cursed ending is to beat the act 2 boss while in this state
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>>539902754
or you can just load an older save snapshot. the game makes one automatically the moment you get cursed
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>>539901695
Put the thrusters to full.
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Lace as a character was added to silksong for the sole purpose so that team cherry could avoid making Zote the third playable character
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I finally made it past the Last Judge. Citadel, here I come.
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this shit is not a part of the background. it can be jumped off. goddammit.
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>>539904261
took me over 40 hours to figure out
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damn the Surface Memento was aids to get
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do I let the spitty guy in the slab capture me
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>>539903723
It's gonna get worse.
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>>539903723
>Citadel, here I come.
Oh no, not yet, not so fast :^)
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>>539903723
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
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>>539904624
i liked it, but i feel like they can't be more creative with the platforming because of how different crests are. what something like reaper can easily clear, hunter can't, or vice versa. i really wished for more nail bounce sections but the climb used clawline and double jump only.
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>>539905538
What can't you clear easily with Hunter? I did 100% with it and never had any issues with platforming.
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>>539905674
think about what anon is saying. you are taking their words at face value
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>>539901387
Maybe she's just tired and wants to die.
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I can't believe I share a thread with save scummers
The type of players to rip out their ethernet cable when invaded
The type of players who purchased game shark
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>>539902227
What about Zara and the bug dude? I heard you can fight them, but he's just sleeping at Songclave.
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>>539906350
you progressed Songclave quests too much, can't fight him anymore
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I don't like this place
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>>539905674
i also played the game hunter only and got 100% and the surface memento. to clarify, the platforming is fine, but because there isn't one standard moveset like the first game, some platforming challenges could pose greater difficulty for a certain crest compared to others. thus, they can only make platforming that is clearable by every crest using tools that are standard to every crest: double jump, wall jump, clawline, and glide.
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>>539906593
The flint tool can heat you up and help you if you realllly need it, but you should be fine without it. It's ok to lose a mask or two on one of the trips up from the cold.
>>539906447
Ngl, that feels kinda lame that it's so easy to miss.
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>>539906724
You can have pogo sections that can be cleared with any crest, moreover you could have sections that expect player to switch between crests for the intended platforming path making it even more complex than HK.
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>>539905538
It would be too easy because of reaper
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>>539906814
it's okay... godhome will surely let us fight regular garmond and zaza
...R-Right?
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>>539906593
i struggled with this part a fair bit but once you finish it you've leveled up your platforming significantly and you get a really nice reward at the top
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>>539890976
So we had the nail, now we have the needle, next we'll probably have the pin as a weapon. Do you think the pin has enough swag to be a main weapon?
I think it's lacking something desu, but I can't quite put my finger on what. Lace does seem to use it as a rapier however, which is at least different from how ghost and hornet basically use their weapons as glorified swords despite not being such.
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>>539906593
It's a harsh lesson on how clawline works
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>>539907906
I think they're all on the same level in that they're entirely boring.
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>>539907906
Yeah, I can see the pin being the weapon. It's what I'm expecting as well.
>Do you think the pin has enough swag to be a main weapon?
I don't think a nail or a needle has "swag" in the first place. It's a nail and a needle.
>different from how ghost and hornet basically use their weapons as glorified swords despite not being such.
Is a rapier not a sword?
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>>539907130
>You can have pogo sections that can be cleared with any crest
you can, but you have to compensate for some crests not being able to do so otherwise, which makes the crests that can do it, do it easier. for example, wanderer doesn't get extra horizontal distance because its downslash is straight down, so each gap has to be clearable by wanderer, giving the crests with diagonal downslashes more leeway.
>you could have sections that expect player to switch between crests for the intended platforming path
that would be cool and i would love to see it.
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>Lace is the actor for HK3
>She needs silk so now you have a silk timer 24/7.
>Don't get silk in time, she suddenly dies.
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>>539908701
Lace deserves to die.
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>>539907906
cool idea for the next game would be if you could switch your main weapon. Kind of like how crests work right now, but for weapons instead.
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Found a bug (lol)
>getting attacked by one of those flying void thingies
>get hit across a screen while Hornet is still covered
>void thing is gone and I only took 1 damage as opposed to two
>but now all of Hornet's audio is muffled as if I'm still covered
>persists even though a reload
Epic, my Hornet has hearing damage now or something.
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There should be a reward for destroying all Void Masses.
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>>539906593
weavelight is a must for clawline spam. and the first vertical climb outside is the hardest as it took 1 mask off me 99% of the time.
>>539906814
>The flint tool can heat you up and help you if you realllly need it
well that's interesting
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>>539901165
>brute forced it first time
>had to redo it again since I walked past the chapel and thought I ended up at square one

This is the first time I hear there's a method to it
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>>539909049
the same thing happens with barnacles if they die while you are inside, you can fix it by getting vored again and breaking free in the intended way
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>>539908901
thats just crests with a different skin
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>>539862971
Biological son vs cuckquean daughtet
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>>539904935
Lol at pic
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>>539908485
>I don't think a nail or a needle has "swag" in the first place. It's a nail and a needle.
Just because a weapon is basic doesn't mean it can't have swag. Sephiroth's masamune looks like the most generic katana you've ever seen if it weren't for the fact that it's extra long. Kind of like how the needle is a needle, but adjusted to be extra big and with a skinny part between the tapered end and thread hole as the grip.
>Is a rapier not a sword?
It is, but I was referring to a medieval european longsword, which is the stereotypical sword in games. Either that or the katana make up like 99% of video game swords. A rapier would be pretty different in that sense
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Just finished act 2 and I'm getting everything ready for 3. Are there anymore oils you guys could point me to? Appreciate it.
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>>539910465
1 pale oil in whispering vaults (remember the pin shop sign?)
1 pale oil for food
1 pale oil for completing the quest the fleas give you after they move to their final stop
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>>539910624
>1 pale oil for completing the quest the fleas give you after they move to their final stop
the reward is the egg tool, oil is for completing minigames in act 3
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>>539890976
Man I can't believe that the cherry boys can mahe bosses as fun, engaging and hard as this, but also produced shit like Groal. Like did they have a headache on the day they made and tested him?
Also Sinner best girl so far
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Crawlake chicken area is kicking my ass with those dagger throwing and spear stabbing chickens
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>>539907906
>Lace does seem to use it as a rapier
Need it. Nimble poking movesets are incredibly fun. I ran a rapier handle for my entire Lies of P playthrough just so I could keep the fencing posture with built-in back step.
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>>539894246
she's dressed like a man
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>>539910848
groal wouldn't be that bad if the runback wasn't excruciating
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>>539910624
>1 pale oil for food
Sorry what does this mean? I think I'm retarded or might have missed something
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>>539910974
delivery quest in the citadel
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Act 3 is dogshit
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>>539897639
Left or middle, likely
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>>539910974
go into the citadel's dining room, you'll get a fetch quest for stuff all over pharloom
they're found at mosshome, halfway home, sands of karak, sinner's road, and bellhart
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Wow, I thought you guys were exaggerating with Groal. I think the boss is fine... but the runback is gayer than all the others I've had, the lack of mobility sucks, the stupid lack of healing even if the tool breaks (which it likely will due to the faggy gauntlet before). Fucking hell.
>t. one death so far
I will win honorably.
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>>539908701
Congrats, you just invented Rain World.
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>>539910948
I personally hate the gauntlet more (though I guess that's part of the runback?), those green spearchuckers didn't seem to get knocked back when you hit them combined with ther ability to carren around drunkenly.
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>>539911443
The groal gauntlet is one of the easiest in the game because the enemies telegraph where they're going to appear and you can easily get 3 pogos the moment they pop out, staying on top of them to avoid their projectiles entirely..
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>>539910870
Fuck I hate flying enemies
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Sprintmaster Swift is a fucking FAGGOT.
I hate him and his FAGGY moaning! He pisses me the fuck off, i hope ants rape him!
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>>539911752
just hit him when he tries to overtake you
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lacefag death
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>>539911752
press the harpoon button
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>>539911312
Okay 2nd try victory. Beat with with sting shard and threefold pin. Used a few during the gauntlet, my maggot-protection broke at the beginning of wave one, healed immediately to undo that shit. Got down to one health. Used my remaining three fold pins to hit phase 2 and a little beyond. A few sting shards. Last threefold pin got the kill. Wasn't THAT bad, but jesus.
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>>539911587
I'm mad
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>>539910870
this somehow feels racist
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hornet just happens to hear that some retard has seeded a cave with lifeblood and she just shrugs and decides to help
then in act3
>this is wonder tainted strong with revulsion
>cursed substance
>pharloom shall quickly learn the curse of this substance
what the hell did she expect?
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>trying to kill grand mother silk with the cursed crest
>failing hard
not being able to heal sucks much more than you realize
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>>539912465
whenever he readies the attack, that means it's going to hit you if you don't move. move to the gaps of the attack.
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>>539911752
you need to use hunter crest for the 3rd race because TC are bunch of retards
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>>539912607
To be fair, the guy did tell her he tested it thoroughly and that it was safe and effective, with no side effects. Why would you doubt the words of a man of science? Wait..
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>>539913004
but
but i used reaper
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>>539913004
not only you can clear it with any crest, you can do it with clawline instead of pogo
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>>539913004
>>539913209
i beat it with architect, just spam clawline
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>>539913004
? I cleared all three races with wanderer crest just fine
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>>539913209
>>539913340
>>539913458
>>539913517
3rd race was obviously designed with hunter's diagonal pogos in mind
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>>539913823
all pogo in the game is designed with hunter in mind but that doesn't mean you need to use it
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which character from SS will be the player in hollow knight 3
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>>539912607
I was thinking that as I was doing the quest like, why am I helping this dude. But then again I don't think Hornet helping would change the final outcome, the boss fight against the assistant says he seeded the whole cave system and the scientist was well into feeding the local wildlife so at the very least it's not Hornet's fault.
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>>539912465
I'm glad
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>>539910940
>jacket with no pants
more like dressed like a pervert
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>>539914219
Obviously Zote the Mighty
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>>539914219
Shakra. You will finally don't need to buy maps and compass will not take slot for some other piece of equipment.
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I am straightup malding at the surface climb.
Holy fucking shit, this voidout trash is killing my sanity bit by bit
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>>539912465
Get craw'd nigger
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>>539915046
do you have the tool that lets you stay on walls indefinitely? it makes platforming easy
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>>539915046
The surface climb is not that bad as long as your crest can do the spike jumps consistently. What sucked ass was the first lava climb for the mask piece, fuck the flying tar spitters.
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>>539915046
for the last stretch with the floating armored bugs, alternate between pogo and harpoons
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>>539915198
You guys ever notice how first contact with a wall seems more slippery with the grip? Is it just me?
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>>539915198
the problem is, I scrape the fucking bottom of the platform by a pixel and have to do the whole flyingfuck section all over again
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>>539901057
>Cloth can die
>You can kill the Nailsmith
That's based
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>>539914161
Sands of Karak is a bitch with Hunter Crest, tho
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>>539915918
Nah.
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>>539915918
I used hunters crest exclusively, except on moorwing who I was forced to use a newly acquired reaper crest on (no tools equipped). Beat up father of flame on third attempt, did all platforming sections, and am on act three now.
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>>539901057
>the nailsmith becoming a male model
fellas? is it woke to be handsome?
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>>539916553
male "model"
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I don't understand Silk Soar cues. I thought it was a ray of sunlight illuminating a point where you need to use it, but looks like there's plenty of sunlight rays that don't result in shit when you use Silk Soar.
Also distance limit is extremely disappointing. Hollow Knight didn't have distance limit for horizontal super-dash, it could go right through room transitions.
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>>539890976
Yuri game
Yuri general
Lesbian community
Feminist devs
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>>539909452
yeah, technically, but then you add weapon swapping where you can have two weapons. And then you open up cool new builds specialized for a certain task without it being a pain to play otherwise. Maybe you could even add combos or something.
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Is there a way to make Shaman Crest not a massive dogshit?
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>>539917314
yeah 3 silkhearts + that extra one, volt filament and needle master and forever running away using charged attacks and silk skills
you better not take damage
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>>539916868
Go back to /v/ thread tranny
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>>539916868
Pedophilia
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The main problem with bosses in this game is they have too much fucking health. It ends up turning bossfights into battles of attrition more than skill.
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>>539917926
upgrade your nail
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>>539917926
uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
nyot hink so
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>>539918073
It's upgraded as much as it can be right now
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>>539917926
The real problem are unending waves of enemies before some of the fights.
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>>539918207
use the tools and spells
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32 hours in and I'm probably about halfway through the game
it's a big one
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>>539917819
>oneeloli
Hot
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why does the wiki say "After any other ending, if Mister Mushroom's quest has been completed" when the quest is act 3 exclusive and there's only a single ending?
Does the cutscene play on all saves from there on?
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All that contact damage is just Hornet running headfirst into pointy nose, lol.
"Ow, my eye!" *one mask gone*
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I hate how this game forcefully equipping and unequipping shit on your crest
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>>539918443
exactly 60 hours in and i'm still half-way through act 3. 91% completion but still a lot of zones to revisit
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>>539918912
>trusting wiki
>>539919243
Dude, you literally gave the item away. Of course it would be unequipped.
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>>539915360
It's cause you need to have your joystick pointed towards the wall to stay on. If it's angled halfway downward, the game will think you're deliberately intending to drop
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>>539919243
I don't like that it automatically equips a crest when you find it.
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>>539919414
he probably means shit like starting Act 3 where your crest gets completely stripped of whatever you had equipped
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Now because of Celeste every platforming game needs to be dashslop to appease the trannies... Silksong is the latest victim.
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>>539920919
ummm xister....the first game also had a dash!!! (you might want to delete your post!! NOT A GOOD LOOK DDD:))
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I was gonna ask why Wanderer is the only crest that doesn't have any real gimmick. It's strong, but even Hunter (upgraded) is more interesting
but then I looked it up
>those crits I randomly get are Wanderer-exclusive and only proc with a full silk bar
ohhhhh I see
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>>539919680
Nigger when you find a crest you're like 2 screens away from a bench every time
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Okay, I"m starting to understand the complaints youtubers have made over difficulty but they really suck at articulating it. Runbacks like the one in Bilewater, benches in later areas requiring rosaries where there aren't enemies that drop them, and tools needing fragments aren't great. You have to deal with most of that through grinding. In the case of rosaries you sometimes need to go grind in an earlier area just to run back to the bench and activate it. This kind of stuff is less difficult and more disrespectful. Outside of that I don't think the core gameplay is particularly hard which is why the complaints didn't make sense to me at first.
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>>539921152
I know. It still bothers me. Don't alter my equipment without asking me first.
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holy shit fuck bilewater wtf is that bullshit before the boss?
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>>539921490
The game SHOULD punish you for being shitty. Shitters need to suffer for their subhuman hand-eye coordination and reaction time.
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>>539921630
I'd prefer the original HK's mana reduction until you collect your soul to having to go grind somewhere for some resources.
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>>539919624
Even when I don't angle it, it'll move down slightly first, stop, then go. Without grip, that slight move down isn't there.
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>>539921724
Stop relying on tools so much, then. You don't have to grind if you aren't emptying your pouch in abject terror on every single shitty boss and flying enemy you come across. You SHOULD be punished for overusing your tools like a shitter. The game is trying to tell you that Hornet must slay foes with the needle and you are just slamming your face into a brick wall labeled tool spam and then complaining that your head hurts.
>b-buh- but in the original game
stfu
>m- muh game mechanics
stfu
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>>539922202
I don't rely on tools much at all. It's just they made the game too reliant on this economy.
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Wait. Did Hornet just fucking murder the gay twin lover?.. I didn't expect the memory boss battle being... lethal. I thought it required consent or something...
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another day of banging my head against groal
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>>539922440
Yes. She fucking hates gay people.
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>>539922453
You spend more time on the runback and arena than you spend fighting him. There's like two ways two cheese him. You've don't enough, right? Cheese him.
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>>539921490
>he doesnt keep rosary strings on him before he explores a new area
Retardkun, it took me exactly 2 regions to learn that I should PREPARE for exploration before going into a new area
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>>539922453
Just pogo on him with wanderer when he sucks
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>>539922497
Based bugchudette
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>>539922675
no, I will beat him with wanderer and no tools like I've done with every other boss
>>539923675
sometimes he pinches me against the ceiling when I do that. my biggest issue is jumping into his soul blasts like a retard
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>>539919229
So hornet is constantly taking 2 contact damage because shes just incredible clumsy.
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All that platforming faggotry in The Cradle and all you get is some useless trinket for your useless home
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>>539924210
It's required for the best ending tho
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>>539924210
Sounds like youre going to have to take a second trip up there anon.
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>>539915298
Fuck, that was the last part? I almost got to the top, fell on spikes, died to worms, and said fuck it.
I guess I'll try again then.
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What is his deal? I can't seem to do anything.

>>539922440
He violated the NAP first.
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I'm in Act 2 and I just collected all three songs and unlocked an elevator or something. I'm scared to go in because I want to scour the map before Act 3 starts. When is the point of no return for starting Act 3?
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>>539924963
Play music.
>He violated the NAP first.
She was trespassing.
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>>539925004
When they game prompts you to CHALLENGE.
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>>539925004
Go in the elevator. You have to deliberately accept a quest to reach act 3.

>>539925042
I tried every song I know and it did nothing.
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>>539925179
Play the normal song for longer.
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Fucking psycho.

>>539925268
Okay thanks.
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>>539924353
>>539924405
#RapeTeamCherry
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>>539914253
I think it would happens even if you don't do his quests
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>>539922338
if you don't rely on tools, then you would be at max shards early in the game. meaning there should be no reason for you ever to dip below half of your max shards. btw, if you're whining about lack of shards, there is a yellow tool you get super early in the game that will give you more shards. i'd bet my left testicle you never equipped it or never bought it because you have the ego the size of saturn.
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Lace is a cute! CUTE!!
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>>539915918
In Karak with Hunter's Crest, you gotta let your jumps flow naturally a lot of the time, canceling them with a double jump, dash, or hookshot too early can often screw you out of where the devs were trying to put you
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>>539923910
>no, I will beat him with wanderer and no tools like I've done with every other boss
That's what I was doing. Groal was the first boss I used tools to win against. I can't handle that arena + run back. I wouldn't hold it against you.
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I cleared Seths score in flea bounce but holy shit I can't do flea dodge. I can hardly hit 80.
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now that i've beaten the game, what's the best ecelebslop to watch the game? i don't like holoen and none have beaten it so don't bother
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>>539926176
Wife shaped creature
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>>539927829
Joseph Anderson.
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Does anything different happen to the pilgrim in the bone bottom bellway station if you never bring the bell beast there for the whole game? I think in my first run she just got scared away by it and I never saw her again the whole game.
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>>539929283
No one has tested this
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It's mind boggling to me just how bad people are at the game
The problem with silksong is that while there IS room for criticism on certain topics, the vast majority of people who complain about those issues are fucking retarded. You ask them to post gameplay and they'll post the absolute most dogshit playing with the worst possible build going up against a moderately difficult boss where they make no attempt at all to learn the moveset or evade damage. You ask them to point to a "runback" they think is bad and they'll say the conchfucker fight where you have to start from the bench all the way at the right side of karak or they won't mention the hidden bench in bilewater. There are people who missed the shortcut in coral tower. There are people who deliberately walk around the game and go into boss fights with 2k fucking beads and then get mad at the game when they lose it all. They dont bother using silk eaters or turning beads into strings, they just risk 100% of their rosaries and claim it's bad design when they die.
You notice this after engaging with them for a while. I can't take any criticism for the game seriously because 90% of the critics are literally just dogshit at the game. I clicked on a video to about the "5 heckin worst runbacks in silksong" and this dumbass said the wisp thicket to father of flame was the 3rd worst runback in the game. Nigger, it's literally a long flat corridor with 2 enemies you can jump over. He made no mention of runbacks to arenas, like the first hunter's march arena with shakra, or the far fields lava escape, which are genuinely difficult, though. Speaking of arenas, one anon did the high halls gauntlet without sitting on the bench in high halls one room over, meaning he ran all the way from songclave. These are the people who criticize the game. Absolute troglodytes
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Pinstress is the most retarded boss in this game
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>>539920919
Pretty sure Path of Pain predates Celeste
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I just watched a video telling me that Architect is the best crest. Is this true? I don't want to spam tools every fight.
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>>539930010
Wanderer is the best and if you use anything else you're cheating and a tranny
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>>539930146
>best
>but using other crests is cheating
Hold on...
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>>539929760
I LOVE INPUT READING
I LOVE FLYING ENEMIES THAT PERFECTLY DODGE YOUR ATTACKS WHILE FLYING
I LOVE ACCIDENTALLY FALLING OFF AND RESETTING BOSSES HEALTH
I LOVE BOSS FALLING OFF THE ARENA DURING STAGGER SO I CAN'T HIT HER FOR FREE
I LOVE TEAM CHERRY
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>>539930681
trolled to death
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Main menu theme in Hollow Knight was 100x more soulful
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>>539930965
the music is the weakest aspect of both games
it's all generic fantasy film score slop with no personality
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Does beast crest really need to be down two slots. It just feels so arbitrary since the kit itself seems balanced normally against the others
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>>539933258
Guess they don't want you to have too much fun with it.
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So you kill a lot of voided bosses... to put them out of their misery. But your ultimate goal is to get rid of the void. So you killed them all for nothing? They would have been cleansed when the void is gone and be fine if you didn't kill them?
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>>539929579
Silksong's difficulty is similar to Hollow Knight's difficulty:
Prologue: Easy
Beginning: Hell
Mid-Game: Easy
Late-Game: Hell
In Prologue the game teaches you stuff, so things are not that hard yet
In Mid-Game your upgrades outpace Boss difficulty, so things temporarily gets very easy
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>>539907906
Does Second Sentinel not survive Act 3 and I just missed it or is everyone sleeping on the possibility of them as a future main character?
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>>539935648
it does, it's first shrine's guardian on act 3
like shakra is on bellhart
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Just unlocked Beast crest. Is it any good?
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>>539927829
Tenma maemi
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>>539927829
Mossbag's upcoming lore video, which he'll debunk in a few years.
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Where is a map in those tedious green shit hole? I feel like I've gotten two benches and a fast travel and I just found a third bench that dropped me into green shit and I just want a damn map so I feel less lost.
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I've already beaten and 100%ed the game, but remind me
Is it possible to get silk soar BEFORE double jump? I'm thinking back at the order in which i unlocked stuff and I don't remember double jump being required to get silk soar, but I (and most people?) got double jump first.
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>>539936960
You cannot get Bilewater's map without double jump.
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>>539937041
I have it. I only just found this place at the end of Act 2.
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>>539930681
>I LOVE ACCIDENTALLY FALLING OFF AND RESETTING BOSSES HEALTH
i'm sorry?
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>>539937032
nope
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>don't buy any benches because I'm jewish
>Sherma next to one of the unlockable benches
>"surely if we pray hard enough it'll appear for us"
>have to buy it for him now
no fair, I wanted those rosaries...
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>>539928342
hes playing it? i heard he was going all in on baldurs gate for the foreseeable future so i havent been keeping up
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>>539937152
You'll see Shakra's Rings when you're travelling from the Sinners Road entrance to Bilewater's Bellway, just go up and to the right in the room you see them.
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>>539930681
>I LOVE BOSS FALLING OFF THE ARENA DURING STAGGER SO I CAN'T HIT HER FOR FREE
If you're talking about Lace, I'm going to laugh my ass off because that fight is easier than half the common enemies in the game

>>539934472
what's considered "beginning"?
I think I'm close to finishing act one and the hardest part so far was the ant with the big axe, the same guy with a flying guy this time and the room where map lady helps you out
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>>539937782
He finished his first playthrough in seven streams. I haven't watched it because I'm still on my first playthrough. I really hope he does a critique video like he did for the original Hollow Knight.
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I've seen a lot of complaining about Coral tower but it was kind of fun, having a bunch of enemies you can easily melt is a nice break from the damage sponge void ones at this point and the boss is alright
Then again, I had the final nail upgrade so maybe that made the difference
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>>539928342
>I am on bluesky now.
Sorry, I don't watch trannies
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>>539938093
I was still missing 2 upgrades when I did it, and it wasn't bad whatsoever. Ignore shitters
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>>539937832
Man, I remember seeing those and must have missed her. Guess I'll backtrack. Thanks.
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>>539938123
>muh website tribalism
>in 2025
>muh trannies
meds
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>>539938364
>>muh website tribalism
Exactly, the only reason to switch is for website tribalism so anyone who does it needs to take their meds
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the skip for sister splinter to get the walljump is surprisingly easy
can you fight a voided splinter in act 3?
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>>539916553
yes
men need to be ugly and women need to be beautify
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Half the bugs in the world can either fly or burrow but neither of out protagonists can. So my suggestion for hk 3 is a main character with either natural flight or the ability to dig through dirt.
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>>539928342
are you sure? didn't xe get filtered by yakuza 0 of all things?
>>539936286
Gross
>>539936609
But we don't know when that'll come out
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the next game is set in the city of steel
given jinn and jiji's dialogue in the first game, the city and its masters have something to do with the void
therefore the next game is either ghost or hollow as the protagonist
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>>539939632
Digging attack is no good since it gives the player invulnerability at a moments notice.
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DLC when
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>>539937032
You need double jump to reach Groal. Silk Soar is Act 3.
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hornet's penis
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>>539938263
You know the path from Bilewater station to the boss? The first room you see those flying muckroaches. starting from the station, should have her rings.
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>>539939729
janderson beat every boss with hunter crest & no tools, and he thought karmelita and lost lace were great.
he sets arbitrary restrictions for himself in every game he plays. the amount he struggles is proportional to how stupid the challenge run he set for himself is.
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>>539939729
>are you sure? didn't xe get filtered by yakuza 0 of all things?
He beat it on hard mode without using healing.
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>>539940024
Doesn't curse crest's bind do that?
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>>539940024
could be on a cooldown or a resource meter
>>539940669
i wish
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wanderer is so based
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>>539940921
based on what?
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>>539942104
The Knight.
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>streamer dies during TLJ explosion
>crashes out and says it was bad game design
lol RTGame
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Man, I hate this Bilewater arena and its dumb runback.
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>>539926176
>>539928125
my silken wife is so perfect
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>>539944079
the runback is nothing from the hidden bench, it's the stilkin rng that's tilting me
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>>539945983
Where is this hidden bench?
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>>539936670
What do they talk about?
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>janserson
Wasn't he one of those faggots complaining about Silksong being "too cheap" and "it would heckin run all other indieslopdevs out of bussiness" somehow?
Why would you seriously spend your time watching something like that?
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Pharloom static map when?
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>>539940410
my penis(property of hornet)
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are any spool fragments found only in act 3? i know 4 are in act 3, and i have all 16 mask shards up to now. missing 2 spool fragments, about to finish act 2
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>>539943381
RTGame is a casual, makes sense. At least he had the tenacity to get to Last Judge.
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>>539946668
I only care about quality gameplay and quality game critique. If he starts talking economics or politics or whatever I just skip forward in the vod.
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>>539947293
there are no spool fragments exclusive to act 3
however there are indeed 4 mask shards exclusive to act 3 like you said
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Beat Lost Lace
Do I uninstall or wait for DLC?
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I hate this game, it's so frustrating it's unreal. I feel the game is unfair, for a lack of better term. It's the minor spelling mistake gif, but with minor contact; long ass wind up animations don't help either. I tried to cheese Last Judge with Beast+weighted belt, but no luck yet. I might just be older and slower but I don't recall Hollow Knight to be this annoyingly difficult.
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>>539946305
Before the room where you have to do platforming.
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>>539948465
neither. start a new run and do things differently
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>>539947293
did you look under the whiteward elevator
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>>539948735
He finally time off. Without pay.
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>>539948505
You can quit here. I don't mean this in a mean way. L.Judge almost filtered me, but I found the easy way to do the run back, and I was able to make it. However, things will get worse after L.Judge. She's not just a judge for the pilgrims, but for the players as well. She is a real filter.
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>>539948505
>I tried to cheese Last Judge with Beast+weighted belt
how is that a cheese strat? that sounds harder than anything i could think of
silksong is a harder game but hornet also has stronger options available
you can use the magma charm from forge daughter to reduce its fire damage from 2 to 1
you can use tacks from sinners road to deal damage in the last phase without even needing to find safe openings
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>>539948505
If Last Judge is too hard for you, you can take the other route into the Citadel.
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>>539948853
I first tried judge and then promptly got stuck on the solo coral drill fuck for an hour
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>>539948941
>How is that a cheese strat
I read it here and tried it out.
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>>539948979
a lot of people say Phantom is easier than Last Judge but I feel like Phantom requires you to respect the fight's pace/mechanics more
you can't really burst Phantom down with tools, they'll proc her parry at awkward times
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>>539948770
i don't remember which i got, but i did do that. guess i'll use a guide and track every one of them. RIP
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>>539949094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bdRRsvNLwQ
Also, as some can see, they nerfed the runback by removing the last coral.
>>539949363
I died to last judge more than I did to Phantom. She also has less health.
>>539949505
There's an interactive map in the OP.
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>>539948505
Silksong is not a game for you to facetank damage, I know many people played Hollow Knight like this where you could just mash A next to a boss and win but you have to respect enemy attack patterns.

>>539949363
If you just focus on safe openings like her air throw you can get 2-3 hits in every time, and she's very safe to toss in pogos after attacks like her lunges and parry. Plus she only has one 2 damage attack.
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>>539949363
I think the thing with Judge is that the difficulty of the fight is very variable when you get to him. Your set up makes a huge difference. You can be a shitter and arrive with the kit to dismantle him, or you can be a great player who comes in there on beast crest and eat his knowledge checks twice for game before you're tilted out for subsequent fights.

There's really nothing to Phantom except the straight up skill check. The fight is extremely straight forward and only really checked your mechanical ability.
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>>539949681
i don't think you could do that in hollow knight as well aside from shit like massive moss charger, false knight and crystal guardian
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TROBBIO
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>>539950329
The fastest way to rematch Radiance is to just mash against THK because you get a free heal.
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>>539950372
TROBBIOOOOOOO
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I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF THE MOUNT FAY CLIMB
GO FUCK YOURSELF TC
FUCK
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>>539951080
I'm pretty sure you can do it in under 10 minutes.
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>>539951080
it's fun and the reward is worth it. remember that the clawline isn't just a grappling hook, it's also a super-airdash
i really hope you're not the same person who was stuck 9 hours ago
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>>539951339
>the clawline isn't just a grappling hook, it's also a super-airdash
I know
It also appears to be fucking pure RNG as to whether or not I'll bounce high enough after clawlining one of those floating mobs to have enough altitude to go wherever I have to go next
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>>539951523
Its not RNG, they're stationary mobs
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>>539951523
works on my machine! maybe you're skipping a step in the platforming sequence or something
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Is the surface climb the hardest platforming challenge in the base game? I beat it last night and I can't wait for more (I don't feel like doing Path of Pain though)
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>>539951080
Bro your weavelight
Bro your flintslate
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>if you skip Lace 1 you can find her chuunimaxing in Sinner's Road
WHAT
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>>539951843
Currently yes
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I never played hollow knight, what can we expect from team cherry in terms of DLC? I read the DLC page on the wiki but I have no idea what any of it means, except that there are a ton of new bosses added I guess.
Was there any story DLC?
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>>539949595
>There's an interactive map in the OP.
I know, it doesn't make searching for 18 areas any less annoying
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>>539952286
Oh cool I didn't know that one
You can also see her at the entrance to Blasted Steps if you skip Lace 1
So you're guaranteed to meet her once before act 2 no matter what path you take
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>>539951523
>as to whether or not I'll bounce high enough after clawlining one of those
When you clawline, don't press the jump button afterwards. Let the bounce carry you upwards first.
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>>539952286
She does the same thing on the broken bridge in Blasted Steps if you go that way instead
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>>539952426
Define story dlc. We got new endings, new information to flesh out the worldbuilding and more NPCs and dialogue to interact with.
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>>539952426
the first dlc gives you more main game content
the other three are just extra end game stuff
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>>539952426
godmaster added 2 new endings
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>Architect charge attack hits 7 times
>each hit applies flintslate bonus damage
Holy shit
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>>539952426
The last DLC of Hollow Knight added boss rushes, including harder versions of bosses and entirely new bosses, with optional self-limitations to make them even harder. A similar DLC in Silksong will be nothing less than ball-busting.
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>>539952286
>>539952494
>>539952526
That's pretty cool.
>>539923910
This guy is pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REROOvrzy1o
She how he beat nearly all bosses with hunter crest, no silk skills and no tools? And zero damage taken. Now see what he does for Groal.
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>>539952812
>have to charge
>have to not get hit and connect the attack before flintslate runs out
i'd rather just use flintslate and hit them 7 times
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>>539952893
Pantheon of Pharloom is going to be like 90 minutes every attempt.
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>>539952549
>>539952590
>>539952614
>>539952893
I guess I just mean that I got the true ending in silksong, and it kind of feels like it needs one more story quest, or an epilogue at least. Was hollow knight like that, and if so did the extra DLC content do anything to address that?
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just got to the weaver fight (what the fuck) and i'm realizing how little i know of the story. basically
>hornet brought to dying kingdom
>kingdom wants her for her silk (silk is rare)
>she meets lace who mysteriously has silk too. i know they're sisters already got spoiled
>everyone's crazy because of the silk that's mysteriously in the kingdom
>everyone's also a zealot for the citadel
am i right
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>>539953114
They arent sisters lol. You'll figure shit out as you go, just talk to NPCs and explore the weavernests.
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>>539953093
>Was hollow knight like that
Yes
>did the extra DLC content do anything to address that?
No
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>>539953114
>realizing how little i know of the story
>just got to the weaver fight
the story didn't even start yet
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Does Lace call Hornet "Little Spider" 'cause she's shorter/smaller than all the other weavers? Literally a little spider?
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THE FUCKING CLAWLINE ISNT EVEN FUCKING WORKING
I GRAPPLE ONTO A RING AND THEN I JUMP AND TRY TO SHOOT A LINE TO A FLOATY MOB NEXT AND THE FUCKING THING DOES NOT SHOOT
WHY ARE YOU PUTTING A FUCKING COOLDOWN TIMER ON A TOOL I NEED TO CLIMB THIS FUCKING CUNT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE
FUCK
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>>539953528
I see you didn't wear weavelight like the anons told you.
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>>539953528
The clawline uses silk. If you don't hit an enemy with it, you need to wait for your one pip of silk to regenerate before you can use clawline again. This is why Weaverlight is good for platforming challenges.
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>>539953528
>>539951080
I thought this was a board for people who played video games lmao, what is this shit
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>>539953434
Hornet is noted to be relatively small, yeah. But more pertinently, it's probably because she doesn't actually know Hornet's name because Hornet never tells her. Lace never tells Hornet her name either, so it's strange that Hornet knows it - unless Lace is just a made up name that Hornet gave her.
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>>539953528
if you were able to type this post then you already understand what you're doing wrong. address your mistake and you'll do better. when you grapple an enemy you get the silk back. when you grapple a hook you don't, and you need to wait for the silk regen. slow down.
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>>539953637
>The clawline uses silk.
THATS JUST AS FUCKING RETARDED
WAS HAVING TOOLS RUN ON A CURRENCY NOT CANCER ENOUGH?!
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Do you think this guy found either of the two benches on tbe way up Mt Fay
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>>539953820
>slow down.
THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CHALLENGE IS THAT IF YOU'RE SLOW YOU FUCKING FREEZE TO DEATH
I CAN'T SLOW DOWN OUT IN THE COLD AREAS
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>>539953857
clawline is also a strong combat tool and the silk cost is a tradeoff so you can't spam it unless you're willing to lose your healing juice
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>>539953968
I haven't even reached the part with the first bench hidden behind a breakable wall (that's straight up evil game design btw)
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>>539953998
>IF YOU'RE SLOW YOU FUCKING FREEZE TO DEATH
it's not that strict. worst case scenario you take 1 damage before you get back to warmth
>I CAN'T SLOW DOWN
yes you can buddy. i believe in you
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>>539953998
How far are you? Sounds like you might be near a bench. You fought those eyeball light things yet?
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>>539954193
>You fought those eyeball light things yet?
One in the tunnel before the lake
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>>539954163
it's one of the easier ones to spot, i found it on my first climb through knowing nothing except "it's harder than path of pain" (it isn't)
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>>539952945
>poison cogfly abuse groal
>uses only needle for everyone else
kek what a filtered bitch
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>>539955694
I found the first one
But I've watched a video of the whole run and that second one is just evil, at least the first one you get a sign telling you're there's a bench nearby
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>>539948565
No
And I don't feel like doing 100% either
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>>539956281
that's the one i'm talking about. the wall texture sticks out like a sore thumb, and the first one is painfully obvious because you can see there's an area underneath so it's a matter of finding a way into it.
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bro i'm a reflexlet how am i supposed to beat weaver's second phase?!
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>>539956818
burst damage with tools or just buckle down and learn it. those are your 2 options
this is true for the entire game, it's only gonna get harder after widow
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>>539957081
:(
hardest part for me is the balls that come at you diagonally kek. no clue how to dodge those unless i'm lucky enough to be able to rush underneath them before they fire
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I want to fight the ant queen the rest of my life
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>>539953093
>>539953385
Ok but in Hollow Knight you either get sealed or "die"/return to the void in some way
Hornet is just fine at the end of Sister of the Void so there's no reason there could be no epilogue
If Lace is no longer hostile (Hornet has no reason to care about her now that GMS is done for) I wonder if Hornet will settle down in Pharloom or go back to Hallownest
Though if White Lady and Hollow Knight are still alive then Hallownest should be fine even with Hornet absent
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>>539957237
yeah, it gets chaotic and the diagonal bells are the hardest part.
just think of it the same as phase 1, but now there's an added layer on top that limits how you can position around the phase 1 stuff. don't panic.
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>>539948735
Incase you guys didn't know if you run on the treadmill, one out of every 10 payments is a pale necklace
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>>539957428
I think Hornet will go back to Hallownest, especially if Hollow were still alive.
He's family after all.
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>>539957629
just beat her, thanks. that was a really fun fight
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Hypothetically, if a pilgrim actually made it to the Cradle, what would they even do? Let the pilgrim worship at GMS and then send them home?
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>>539957948
anon the player character in HK is not the hollow knight
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>>539957937
false..
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>>539958369
the hollow knight is also one of her siblings
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>>539955934
youtuber's gotta produce quick or they die, and bilewater is a murderer
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>>539958369
Hollow is also her brother and the one she may have seen/had more contact with due to being in the White Palace.
Hollow is still alive in the Godhome endings.
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>>539956818
most of the final phases are too fast for me to fight nobly, it's a shame
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>>539958909
the only final phase that's too fast for me is karmelita's. not even lost lace gets that fast.
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>>539957237
You can hit them too. I think you can jump above it as well.
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I do kind of wish you could mix up blue/yellow tools more. I want to make a tankmaxxed blue build
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just freed bellhart, citadel's open -- i guess i go up there and see what's going on? is there anything i'll lock myself out of by doing so?

i found sinner's road but there were a lot of areas i couldn't seem to access
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>>539959518
witch crest
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>>539959742
You won't lock yourself out of anything
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Is Second Sentinel and Summoned Savior Act 3? I'm at the end of Act 2, but I haven't seen either yet.
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>>539959826
thanks
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>>539959898
First one, no, you find them in a room in the Cogwork Core.

Second one is Steel Soul only.
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>>539959898
sentinel is act 2, summoned is act 3
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I don't feel like fighting First Sinner anymore. Does she get new attacks and I'm thus better off fighting her in Act 2, or can I come back later?
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When this OST comes on, you know the game is about to throw some SERIOUS fucking bullshit at you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGE0RwhyOek
Every time.
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>people keep mentioning a secret bench before the Bilewater boss to make the runback less painful
>very excited
>it's the bench I've already been using
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>>539925402
>He caught all these low level scrubs and thought he could take on Hornet
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>>539952945
>>539955934
yeah thanks for posting these. i copied his strategy and just spammed the shakra discs at him and he was down. fuck that retarded area
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>>539908701
Congrats, you just invented starving to death; the video game
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>>539961802
Don't Starve: Lace Mode
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>>539953434
Yes. Literal weaver lolibaba.
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>>539962223
>>539953434
Makes me want to check out the Japanese localization to see how they call each-other.
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>Get punched in the dick all game by every boss
>Barely squeeze out 100% completion
>Finally beat act 3
>Only thing left is cozy and comfy hunter journal clean up
Feels good silkbros
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>>539961769
Here's an even better one.
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Lol not having dash made me die to Ant nigga on my Steel Soul run. Not even mad. I got cocky.
I guess I should just lure him intot eh tunnel again but I kinda want to fight him clean.
But fighting him clean without at LEAST dash kinda sucks.
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>>539963449
you're playing on Steel Soul, fuck clean fighting and fuck honor
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>>539963449
Just parry him?
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Groal is really making me hate Wanderer crest, even with longclaw.
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>>539963575
I kinda forgot all his attacks. Also not having dash just fucks with my whole skill repertoire.
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>>539960678
You can cheese her with clawline with Snitch Pick if you have it. Off the top of my head, the second wave is just a faster 1st wave with a screen wide attack you have to dodge.
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>>539963449
don't go through hunter's march, it's too risky. in the room after the big deep docks text, pogo a flying guy to get to the topmost exit and skip hunter's march.
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>>539963521
Yeah but I tunnel lured him the first time so...
Funny thing is I'm gonna do it again cause I really want Fractured Mask
I already forgot where dash is acquired, was it in Deep Docks? I guess I should just do deep docks first unlike how I did Hunter's March my first playthrough. I actually think TC SHOULDN'T have let you tunnel lure the boss to beat him. Would have made it much more apparent that you aren't supposed to go to HM that early, despite many finding it before Deep Docks if they keep exploring upwards in Marrow.
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>>539963440
based
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>>539964154
Without dash? I'm thinking you're right. What I'll do it go get Dash first then beeline FracMask
I can handle any mook gank in the game buuuut not without being able to backdash
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I'm stuck at Bileville / The Mist / The Prison, what do I do
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>>539964470
>bilevile
from the fake bench go to the right and follow the route until you reach the area with the arrows when you climb. then continue all the way to the right and fall into the water and break the walls to find the bench
>The Mist
use needolin around the butterflies and follow them
>The Prison
there is a breakable part of the ceiling in the room on the left iirc
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>>539962568
Would be cool. Make sure to report your findings.
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>>539964942
>needolin
Thought I couldn't even get to Bellhart yet
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WHERE DO YOU FARM ROSARIES IN ACT THREE
THESE FUCKING FAGGOTS BROKE EVERY FARMING SPOT
FUCK ME FOR TRYING TO PLAY THE VIDEOGAME, TEAM CHERRY
SUCK MY DICK
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>>539965373
if you don't have it yet then you can't do it go back later
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>>539964402
the route after the exit leads to dash. in the room after the gauntlet take the left exit after falling.
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>>539965419
The Grand Reed spot is still viable just bench warp back to a bench after 2 rather than slaying the whole line.
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>>539965419
>farming
do niggas really? i didn't farm once in the game. i merely back tracked to find things, killed enemies, and have had more than enough rosaries to buy out every shop by end of act 2...
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>>539965419
How many times did you lose your rosaries for you to have to farm?
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>>539965620
The only time I went out of my way to grind for rosaries was for the needle upgrades and it was a matter of minutes that was so unremarkable that I forgot about it as soon as I was done.
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>Widow's bestiary entry
Bugs have spines?
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>>539966793
Bugs apparently have bones, just look at >>539892386
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Patch 2 notes just hit 30 minutes ago lads
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>>539965419
It's not as lucrative per run as the Grand Reeds but I started farming the three Snitchbugs at Bone Bottom, like 50 rosaries per run with the thief mark and only like 30-40 seconds per run back to the bench right before the original Moss Mother fight. Probably not the best but it's easy and they can't get Voided.
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god DAMN...
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I'm near the end of Act 2 and I need a break from wanderer. What crest should I switch to?
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>>539953021
You arent hitting a boss 7 times in the same time as one CA.
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>>539966793
HK bugs are weird. Spine can also just mean the structurally supporting part of the back, kind of like how a book can have a spine despite having no bones.
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>>539967604
Hunter
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>>539966653
Gn
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>>539967594
DAYUM hornet gets to PLAP THAT??
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I feel like bleeding act 2 out of content was a mistake, act 3 seems so bare now.
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>>539968018
Hornet lets Sherma use Lace as a stuffed animal
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Finally reached the surface, is there anything else there except the shroom and the memento?
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>>539968952
Snuggling Lace every night until she likes it.
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>>539968018
Lace is the bratty top, Hornet is a haughty bottom.
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>>539969213
No
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>>539969707
Thanks time to jump, i am only missing one last memento, hunter one. Thinking about should i do it or not
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I used to hate the Craws in the beginning of the game because I found them too tanky. At the end of the game though, they are kino as hell. Even though Hornet massacred them in beginning, they still called her out and decided to judge her for her sins. I like when simple mobs have something of soul. It makes them feel alive when they care about the world as much as the player.
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how tf do I get the other two hearts, I got the encrusted one already
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>>539969928
the other two require the super jump so think about vertical holes you can't simply climb up
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>>539969918
Even Hornet admits the Craws have a point in blaming her for what's happening. It's easy to dismiss them as a bunch of weird simple-minded bugbird people but they're smarter than they look.
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Why is Flea Juggle so much harder than the other two holy jesus
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>>539971524
I felt the opposite. I just couldn't beat seths score only in flea bounce
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does anything change after defeating the act 3 final boss?
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>Pilby's body just stays at the bottom of the hole
kek
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>>539971935
No
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>>539972041
>you let him die
monster
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>>539971524
don't hit them in the air
only use upslash because hitting them with a left/right slash propels them in that direction
don't sprint and accidentally dash attack off the platform, use short dashes
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>>539972113
You can save him?
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>>539972041
I checked on it multiple times during my playthrough expecting something to happen to it.
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>>539972113
I learned his name, and then went left and the Tyrant Skull spawned and killed him
I didn't even have a chance
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>>539972163
Yes, but it's counterintuitive
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Finished game
45 hours 84% completion
The challenge was enjoyable but the world didnt feel as comfy or engaging as hallownest
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>>539972413
>but the world didnt feel as comfy or engaging as hallownest
That's probably intentional. Pretty much every faction in this game has been destroyed before you can see them.
>Architects?
Only the Twelfth is left. She dies soon
>Conductors?
Only one fat guy is still alive. He get crushed by rubble after the void takes over
>Vaultkeepers?
All of them have gone insane except for Cardinius.
>Stilkin?
All of them are crazy fucks who live in maggot infested sewers and adopted Vietnam War tactics to deal with intruders
>Craws?
All holed up in Greymoor, probably unable to judge Silk and Lace because they are too powerful
>Red Ants
Most of them got corrupted by Silk and went insane. Their queen is old and hiding now.
>TLDR
Compared to Holy Knight, there were atleast some factions which weren't completely fucked by the villain. In Pharloom, it's only Pilgrims left and Bellhart left.
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>>539973820
To me, Hallownest felt like a beautiful graveyard, while Pharloom felt like a freshly-dug mass grave.
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>>539974161
Spot-on analogy.
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>people think the Hollow Knight is still alive
Bullshit, or he'd have tried to rescue Hornet.
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>>539974431
He's a one armed, one eyed cripple.
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>>539974558
And he probably doesn't even know how to read a map.
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>>539974558
And? What else is he going to do in his dead kingdom, not hang out with his sister?
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>>539974789
go be with his mommy
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It's pretty simple to see the design difference between HollowKnight ant Silksong. They are both Metroidvanias but Hollowknight more Castelvania than Metroid while Silksong is more Metroid then Castlevania. The difference would normally be ignoranable but it's more blatant in Silksong because they is so much challenge and deadness in it. Hollowknight also had difficulty but it had peaceful moments and alive areas compared to Silksong.
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>>539974903
>Hollowknight also had difficulty but it had peaceful moments and alive areas compared to Silksong.
Can you give some examples?
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>>539974874
I dont think his mom cares about him desu
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>>539970074
I ran out of those idk where to go homie, I can't even get back up to the cradle which is my last big mystery path
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>>539975664
you can go back up there, though

but for the hearts check the statue in Hunter's March and the elevator shaft from Grand Gate to Underworks
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>>539975358
His mom felt so horrible about committing mass infanticide that she tied herself up so that she'd never have children ever again. Getting to see her "chosen" child "alive" again would probably make her really happy for a little while at least.
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>>539976508
She didnt react happy to see you, she was like "oh good you can replace the failure child in gay baby jail."
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>>539976678
the chosen child was the Hollow Knight, not Little Ghost
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>>539976678
higher beings don't have a good track record as parents
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>>539977215
Yeah and White Lady does not give a fuck about either of them. She does not care about Ghost other than their capacity to replace Hollow Knight.
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>>539977291
I'd also like to add that True Ending shows White Lady was full of shit and Ghost would have never been able to contain Radiance properly as they show a will and desire to save Hornet.
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Genuinely what were they thinking making the Hunter dive kick so fucking bad? I land at the wrong angle on these spinning things in cogwork core and just take damage for no reason, it's dogshit.
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>>539977850
YOU'RE dogshit
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>>539977850
You could always pick Wanderer Crest like the other casuals. Hunter pogo takes practice but once you get it you're gold.
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>>539977850
You at the part where it's two gears moving left and right that you have to pogo off of? If so, I kept dying there too. It's not too clear what part of the hunter pogo is safe for it to hit the gears in that spot. Or maybe there's a bug. I used clawline to get around the issue.
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>>539977850
I like the Hunter dive though...
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>>539901165
I got halfway through by bruteforcing, it’s definitely possible just a headache
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>>539977850
The hitbox for hunter diagonal pogo is weird. Sometimes it works and sometimes you go through what you want to bounce off and take damage. It fucking sucks.
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>>539979097
Its shocking how bad it is for what's supposed to be the premier moveset and the core of the game's platforming
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>>539979097
>>539979370
I think you guys are just bad with it to be honest. It sounds like you're diving too close or at a bad angle.
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>>539971524
GG EZ
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>>539971524
It's the easiest by MILES. They literally sequence themselves for you.
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What was the price that Hornet and the White Lady were talking about ?
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>>539983354
Having to use all 800 shards to toolspam bosses to death
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Is Beast crest any good? It looks cool.
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>>539983702
it's good against some things
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sisters are the most compatible with EACH OTHER
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>>539983354
No cost too great
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>>539983354
the cost of benches
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>>539983354
The White Lady had to pay Herrah 70k geo to cuckqueen her, despite Herrah insisting over and over again that she doesn't want the geo and doesn't want her to consider it a "cuckqueening" but the Pale Lady was adamant about the terminology and payment
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assuming perfect play, is hunter at max power or wanderer better
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>>539943381
When The Last Judge started death animation, I immediately dashed off to the farthest corner of the room. It looked too explodey to me. Looks like my instincts were right, lol.
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>Beat Lost Lace
>Want to reach 100%
>But also too sick of the game to do coral tower
This sucks
Also I wonder if I could ever go back to complete godmaster, Silksong being allegedly so much harder and all that
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>>539984257
Hunter because the damage increase is not tied to chance, probably
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>>539984257
Difficult to say due to Wanderer's random crits but disregarding crits Hunter is better.
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>>539984312
when lost lace was the final boss, i genuinely went "that's it?" absolute radiance was legit 5x harder
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>There are people who didn't play the entire game with Hunter
lol, guess I just got too used to it
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>>539984431
Personally I don't mind that Lost Lace wasn't that hard, or at the very least I didn't FEEL liek it was that hard
Absolute Radiance is DLC though, we'd have to wait for Skong's godmaster equivalent
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>>539984431
AR wasn’t even the hardest HK boss
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>>539984518
they give you like 5 different crests so you specifically not do that but i did end up going back to hunter because of the buff
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>>539984652
what is harder
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>>539984257
wanderer is the highest dps you can achieve with needle because if you're playing perfectly then you will always have crits up and will be able to parry and clash more attacks because you attack faster. hunter is very good, but let's not kid ourselves.
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>>539984431
>absolute radiance was legit 5x harder
It'd be more fair to compare Lost Lace to normal Radiance
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>>539984810
Hornet (sentinel)
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>>539984810
PV
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Wonder what happens after the ending, I don't think Hornet cares about Lace after GMS dies
The fleas will feel real silly when the world doesn't end
Why did the snails die?
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>>539985180
Because those slimy bastards deserved it.
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>>539984431
ok shitter. here's your DLC: Lost Lace except the floor is spikes that you have to bounce off of and all of her ranged attacks have increased homing and she has a second air dash after doing her anti air and she summons double the amount of abyss projectiles and she moves 30% faster and she deliberately attempts to telefrag you and you die in one hit
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>>539985180
the snails were comically evil anyways and i assumed they were already dead to begin with, characters that are pitch black like them almost always have something going on to look like that
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>>539985180
the snails probably had to sacrifice themselves to power the spell to turn a memory into a physical object
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>>539985180
>I don't think Hornet cares about Lace after GMS dies
She definitely pities her at the very least, even if she really doesn't like her as a person.
>The fleas will feel real silly when the world doesn't end
I bet they'll have a second party to celebrate the world no longer ending.
>Why did the snails die?
They either had to sacrifice their lives to ensure the spell worked, OR they're actually Void creatures and the Everbloom fucking killed them. MY guess would be the former.
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>>539985562
>I bet they'll have a second party to celebrate the world no longer ending.
Think of all the new and exciting flea games we’ll get to play!
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>>539985851
>It's just harder variants of the existing games
>Another pale oil gated behind them
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>>539985180
>I don't think Hornet cares about Lace after GMS dies
I would agree with you until I saw this. Hornet isn't exactly known for being the best at expressing her feelings. I'm not deluding myself with the assumption of romance, but I could definitely see some sort of association forming between the two. Hornet sees her siblings in Lace, they could take a found family angle.
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>>539985851
>Flea Race
>Flea Targets
>Flea 'n' Seek
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>>539985969
I think Hornet sees both her siblings and herself in Lace. But acknowledges that Lace is a shittier version of herself.
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>>539986061
All the better to nurture into a better person through hard training and adventure.
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>>539985851
I unironically fucking loved the flea games. In fact, the only thing I didn't like about the flea games was the fact that the world was ending and I felt like I was being irresponsible with my time and letting people suffer, even though I knew there probably wasn't an actual time limit.
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>>539985969
Hornet would probably tell Lace to fuck off, but the fact that Lace needs silk to live would probably be enough to let Lace tag along.
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>>539963440
You are retarded for spamming cogflies like that, once you have 4 on screen old ones will die to make place for new ones
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>>539986385
They're alright
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>>539984286
I had Mega Man Zero 1 flashbacks and instantly fled. They do make it insanely obvious a boom is coming though, people who were surprised by it have only themselves to blame.
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>>539986710
I think it's telling that most clips of people using cogflies have them instantly murder half of their flies like an idiot.
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>>539984286
>>539987000
based and same
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>>539986385
The festival of the flea was kino and Seth joining up with them was a perfect finale. The weird hopeless-yet-joyful atmosphere made it pretty memorable, and I love seeing the big flea in general. Just a wonderful addition to the game.

>>539984431
The hardest thing about AR is the runback.
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Boss fights that shoudn't exist at all:
Lace 1 (have them talk instead)
One of Skull Tyrant
One of Savage Beastfly
Mossmother Forma Doble
One of Trobbio
Clover Dancers
Palestag
Craggler is barely a miniboss but him too.
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>>539987148
>Just a wonderful addition to the game.
Hell yeah.
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>>539987225
Trobbio and Punished Trobbio were absolute kino though
>>539973820
At least the Second Sentinel will still be around
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>>539987225
>wanting fewer bosses
What the fuck is wrong with you
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>>539987148
seth was there? i must've missed him
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Verdania? More like GAYdania amirite?
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>>539987483
there's a whole mini-journey of him, gaining amnesia after you whipped his ass and wandering across Pharloom before eventually winding up with the fleas
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>>539987225
>Lace 1 (have them talk instead)
>One of Skull Tyrant
>One of Savage Beastfly
>Mossmother Forma Doble
Based
>Clover Dancers
Total Faggot Death, though
>One of Trobbio
>Palestag
Wrong, Palestag isn't even that hard
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>>539987427
NTA but who the fuck defends craggler
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>>539987483
You have to encounter him a couple times before (near Craw Lake where Shakra was, in an area of Shellwood below the Sister Splinter fight, and then optionally in front of the Great Gate).
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>>539987225
>Craggler
i let my drones solo him, he seems like way too much of a pain to fight legitimately
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>>539987604
Craggler isnt a boss and its fine as a little one off hazard enemy.
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craggler is just a lame "boss" in general
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>>539987718
It would be a boss in Hollow Knight, that game is filled with trash like Flukemarm and Brooding Mawlek.
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I want to play as Weaver Queen Hornet.
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>>539987225
Wanting no repeat fights with mooks is fair, but other than that you're crazy.
That being said, having Lace show up around 3 or 4 times as much just to taunt and torment you, possibly at various gauntlets or before parkour areas, would have been better than having to fight her three times. You could even have the excuse be that she was conserving her silk by choosing not to outright fight you, and only tries killing you after you wake her up from her nap and leave her with no other choice, leaving you with her fight at the Cradle, and Lost Lace.
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>>539987939
I genuinely wonder if they'll add new crests as dlc. Would be really easy to plop another chapel and some memory lockets into the game.
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>>539987939
>4x game where you gather slaves and build a big shitty empire
You like?
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I just cant see Hornet ever leaving Pharloom. She has friends and family and a house and she's a hero here. Why would she want to go back to a dead kingdom? She even says she missed the feeling of helping others! Let her retire to live in peace, Team Cherry!
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>>539988090
If I have the choice to be good about it then yes I would love a game where I can be an unbridled higher being.
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>>539988280
I'm sure there's some strategy game out there that can be modded into bug kingdoms.
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>>539984810
My cock when I think about a threesome with Hornet and Lace
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>>539988234
To be with her beloved big brothers of course! I would actually love to actually see what state Hallownest is in now and what her big bros are up to. Given Hornet's condition when she was captured, it's probably not very good, though. They could move to Pharloom with Hornet, I guess.
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>>539988392
Silksong 2, but it's more like ActRaiser with Hornet conquering the entire planet.
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Carmelita lasts so long you guys
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>>539988872
Maybe your needle is just too small for her
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>>539988872
In bed?
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>>539939902
Pretty sure Seth will be the protag, but I do like your city of steel theory
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after beating silksong I decided to finally play prince of persia and its pretty good for ubislop
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I can't believe Hornet got bred by the Bell Beast and gave birth to little bell beats...
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How angry does it make you knowing there are people who beat the Steel Soul modes using the Quit to Menu exploit?
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>>539991301
I genuinely can't imagine getting mad at this. I already get angry enough at my own inability to play video games, I have no wrath to spare for literal nobodies cheating for bragging rights. I'm angry at you for believing people care though.
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>>539988872
Poison tacks my beloved
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>>539991301
I only quit out for time saving bench warps and did High Halls gauntlet and Lace 2 flawlessly. But why get upset at people cheesing a single player game, who cares.
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>>539991301
It doesn't matter much to me how other people play a single-player game, but I question the point in playing the superhard mode of the game if you're so scared of losing.
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Why does Hornet not pet or cuddle Sherma?
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Can I reach Sands of Karak in act 2?
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>>539991919
He is not a big fluffy bug
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>>539991990
Why wouldn’t you?
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>>539991990
Its only gated by hookshot, but double jump makes it comfy.
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>>539992084
>double jump
You didn’t clear the area.
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>>539992192
I'm sorry that I didnt get filtered by Mt Kino like a lot of people here did.
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>>539992261
If you need double jump for karak you’re a shitter, plain and simple.
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>>539992496
See
>>539992084
Where did I say you needed it lmao, calm down
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>>539991190
Bell Beast is a girl. And she was bred by ME.
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I'm tired of people acting like this game has bad runbacks when its literally just Groal. Meanwhile Hollow Knight had Mantis Lords, Soul Master, Crystal Guardian, Nosk, Traitor Lord...people dont bring them up because the bosses are easy as fuck and the fight mechanics were solved years ago.
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>>539991301
It doesn't make me angry as much as it makes me confused. I can get the idea of a mode that forces you not to make mistakes, but if you're just going to avoid the only punishment that makes the mode different than playing normally via jank, why not just play normally?
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>>539993172
>why not just play normally?
there's content exclusive to steel soul mode
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>>539993172
So they can get the cute title art and achievement I assume.
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>>539991919
She does every time we turn off the game
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>>539993283
There is one quest and one "boss" and both suck.
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>>539993283
>>539993292
I suppose that's fair.
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I was so pleasantly surprised when it turned out Bell Beast is a dad and he wanted to let Hornet play with his babies. The little Bell Beastlings are so cute.
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>every single important or competent character is a woman
>every male is either feminine, cucked or dead
Woke game...
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>>539993471
it's her turn, chud
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>>539993471
>>every single important or competent character is a woman
and every single character responsible for the downfall of Pharloom is a woman
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>>539993421
>filtered by the Beastling's Call description
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>>539993471
Grindle is the peak of masculinity.
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>>539993545
Lorelet forgot about the dumbass Conductors.
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Lace 3 isn't that bad after you sleep on it for a week, I even had fun
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>>539993861
Lace 3 is a top 5 boss in both games, easily.
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>>539994071
lol
lmao even
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>>539993659
At the end of the day they were still operating under someone else's rule
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>>539994114
The best three fights in HK were Sisters of Battle, Nightmare King Grimm and Pure Vessel. Lost Lace easily fits in among them.
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>>539994238
>Sisters of Battle
overrated
>Nightmare King Grimm
absolute trash
>and Pure Vessel.
absolute kino
>Lost Lace
mid
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Contrarian hours
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>>539984431
>absolute radiance
That's DLC content locked behind a challenge boss rush, Anon.
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>>539994770
>DLC content
Is every major Minecraft patch a DLC too?
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>>539994993
It's "Addon content", if you're old-school.
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>>539995118
Answer the question.
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>>539993471
Or Seth
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>>539994993
>>539984650
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I was surprised by how much sincere respect Hornet has for Sherma in Act 3.
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>>539995268
It's a simple question, give me a yes or no answer.
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>>539994993
If you were playing an unpatched day 1 Hollow Knight game or have had it sitting in your steam library untouched for 9 years, you need to download the new content, so yes it is dlc.
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>>539995379
>Triggered by the truth
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>>539995379
NTA but you define DLC literally as any downloadable content then yes, free updates are DLC. By that metric you could also consider any digitally acquired game as DLC but it would be asinine to do so since it's generally referred to as something digitally added to a pre-existing game. Paid DLC became a more common phrase because free DLC has become a common occurrence as well.
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>>539995456
If I have downloaded Minecraft alpha from the official website back in the days I would have to download the new content too, does it mean that every Minecraft patch is a DLC?
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>>539995496
God the Knight's design is such dogshit compared to Hornet. Hate his square head.
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>>539995608
Generally speaking, alpha and beta content is considered an unfinished game (early access). Going from 50% to 55% is just further finishing the game, not adding additional content. Only after you reached 100% would you "adding" to the game.
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>>539995719
I honestly think it's just his horns, since young Hollow Knight actually looks fine with his cool horns.
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>>539995819
So then every patch post 1.0 is a DLC?
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>>539995834
What about Broken Vessel?
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>>539991919
Possibly even smooch on the forehead
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>>539995834
Every other Vessel aside from ours at least looks okay but their heads are very square. Not a big fan, all the bugs in the game have much stronger designs, this feels too chibi.
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>>539996087
He's baby...
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>>539995893
Not a fan of unsymmetrical designs, but that's more of a personal thing.
>>539996087
This makes me wonder, do we know how early on in the development process they came up with the Knight's design?
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>>539996320
He was alive in Pale King's era.
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>>539996364
>how early
It's negative time, considering The Knight was developed for their previous game, before HK even existed.
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>>539996364
Knight predates Hollow Knight, he's all the way from their Game Jam game Hungry Knight.
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>>539996380
Old baby...
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>>539996364
>This makes me wonder, do we know how early on in the development process they came up with the Knight's design?
Long before Hollow Knight there was Hungry Knight.
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>>539996364
>do we know how early on in the development process they came up with the Knight's design?
Before Hollow Knight was even an idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlqKZSRGKs
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>>539996320
Ghost is very likely older than Hornet and she is an ancient creature.
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>>539996560
Hornet was born around the time the void project started because it was the only way to get Herrah to agree to help. So she is actually (likely) older than Ghost and pure vessel, canonically.
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>>539996560
>>539996380
Do we know if he was conscious the whole time (and actually retained those memories), tho?
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>>539996673
No clue but something brought them back to Hallownest, and its clear in Silksong that Ghost has a will of their own.
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>>539996627
I thought the vessel program predated the dreamer program, but it's been years since I played HK
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>>539996449
>>539996467
>>539996479
>>539996541
Huh, I'm honestly kind of shocked I've never heard of this. Reason I brought it up was that his design in comparison to everything else kind of gave me the feeling that he was an early concept that they didn't want to scrap even as things started to move in a different direction.
Sort of like "Well we want to use our old little character as the protagonist, so how do we make that make sense?" or "We already made a cute little bug, but now he doesn't fit in with the new stuff we made." and then they build around it. Neat.
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>>539996850
My understanding was the dreamers predate because it was the only way to get Radiance to snooze which led to vessels being the only thing that can contain her.
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>>539996921
Elderbug moreso. He looks too much like The Knight.
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>>539996990
Moths made Radiance disappear until it started to appear in dreams manifesting as infection which made Pale King look for a solution so he made vessels and used Dreamers to seal the Vessel with Radiance in it.
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>>539996731
I know that the Knight have a will of it's own, the events of HK clearly show that. I just don't know what was it doing all those centuries. Sleeping? The Nail is very worn down, so likely at least a few decades was spent fighting.
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>>539997547
Team Cherry never explained the plothole of how Vessels escaped the abyss so we can only assume they popped up on some other side of the world and fought their way back across the surface.
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>>539997547
Crawling through miles of dirt to get out of the abyss.
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>>539997651
Well Silksong shows the Abyss is practically the core of the planet they inhabit, miles upon miles below the surface of their world under layers of lava and stone. It's not constrained to just one location but Hallownest did seem particularly close to it.
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>All those Soul Sanctum and Whiteward bugs obsessed with immortality doing monstrous experiments
>Meanwhile Monomon casually gives away immortality-giving mask
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>>539997990
>But Hallownest did seem particularly close to it
We don't know if the void levels are the same everywhere. Hallownest's place might just had more regrets over trillions of years, flooding the caves.
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>>539998076
Quirrel was her fuckbuddy it wasnt like she gave it to a random.
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>>539983903
Did you know? According to Hornet's entry, Phantom was white, assumably like Lace. She's gray now due to age.
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>>539984810
Markoth (forma de platform)
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>>539999890
Markoth is not hard, you just blast through the first phase with nail then use dash slash and shade soul for the second.
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>>539984257
Probably Wanderer. Max hunter is at 29 per hit. Wonderer is at 21. 22.386 avg, if you factor in crits with Lucky Dice. Assuming Wanderer's atk spd is at least 50% more than Hunter
's, Wanderer wins in terms of DPS.
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>>540000346
Wanderer increases attack speed by 35%, that's already almost as much DPS as Hunter, with crits is slightly more.
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Why the fuck the Flea Caravan moved to Petrified Duct? Are they retarded?
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>>540000953
Did you not see the area they're in? Is it not good there?
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Man this game really has almost 1:1 the exact same problems as Elden Ring, eh?
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>>540000953
Fleas need to travel, it's just their culture.
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>>540001557
>Boring open world
>Enemies blatantly input reading
>Nonsense lore
Yeah pretty much.
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Man, my inventory is filling up more and more with twitching, beating, pulsating things.
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If you do the ritual with the green faggot heart can you then go do the remaining boss and display that heart at home instead?
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>>540001970
yes
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Is it possible to overdose on Plasmium if you have 9 masks and use non-Architect crest? I only found one Lifeblood Cocoon, which is not enough.
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>>540002363
yes, I think you need three cocoons and use the plasmium tool after collecting lifeblood or it won't work
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Why does Grandmommy need to gather the spooders for anyway? For silk? Didn't she give them the silk in the first place, according to screeching tutu sinner lady?
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>>540002958
She can only make so much silk at once
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>>540003274
Can't she just ascend Pharlids into new Weavers? Was she suffering from psychological trauma which prevented her from doing that?
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>>539972315
Are you referring to just not doing the skull tyrant wish?
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Finally replayin Hollow Knight. Forgot about this guy. Wonder if he's from the same tribe/place as Shakra and her teacher?
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So what is Zala? Is it closer to Pokemon (sapient, but not talking), or to Lassie (just a smart animal)?
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>>539972163
Pilby revival DLC coming soon
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>>540004162
I hope you didn't forget about our lord and savior Gorb.
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>>540003509
My guess is that her powers are still fucked up from being trapped in the orb
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Trying the mount fay climb again today
If I don't finish it today I'm suiciding
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>>540004543
you can do it, anon!
the mount fay, I mean. If you can't suicide is fine too
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Going back to Godhome after finishing Silksong and some of the bosses feel a lot slower now. Even Pure Vessel doesn't feel as fast as the first time I fought him
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>>540004732
It's like going back to DS1 after DS3.
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>>539991301
It makes me absolutely livid
Basically the vidya equivalent of stolen valor
I beat steel soul with ZERO quit outs after 5 attempts. It still have yet to do a 100% run on steel soul. It enrages me that fucking cunt faggots are LITERALLY CHEATING and the game just gives them the exact same accolades as it does me, who did it out of a combination of skill, determination, luck, and sheer force of will. I wish death upon all save and quit shitters and that is NOT hyperbole
I'm so angry now I have to go take a shit. My stomach is churning
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>>540004543
Have you seen a vid on the climb? Maybe there's something you're doing wrong that makes it really hard.
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>>539991301
I don't give a shit and I don't see why you would. Nobody cares how you accomplish the challenge or how they did itt. You did it the "proper" way, that should be enough for you.
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>>540004732
I never finished Godhome, and likely never will. Beat ten bosses in a row without saving, do another ten bosses, then another, all while either having three essential abilities locked, or having to do it three times with each time one ability locked? With same/recolored bosses? No thanks, sounds like something Steel Soul players would do.
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>>540001970
You should do the quest with 3 hearts in your inventory and save the one you want in your home for after the spell is done. Otherwise (I've heard) that the game will prioritize the other 3 hearts and leave you with the gay aids heart even if you got it earlier than the others
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>>540005005
>all while either having three essential abilities locked
You don't need to do this, you can just fight them all normally. Tbh I also never finished Godhome, Pantheon of the Knight was the furthest I got. It's just fun to fight some of the bosses again but I really don't think I have the stamina to do Pantheon of the Hallownest all the way to AR
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>>540005005
Bindings are just for lore and lifeblood.
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>>540004906
I've already made it further than I got yesterday, which is how I know I'm about to die by missing one jump by half a pixel and then get the very fair and appropriate punishment of having to start all the way back at a bench 21 miles back
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>>540005920
Clawline + float should make it easy to aim.
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>>540005920
The hardest is getting from the Shakra's bench to the next bench. Other sections get easier.
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Second bench get
Is the end near or must I get fucked in my ass much longer?
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>>540006265
It's pretty close, and honestly the worst is over.
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>>540006265
you're about halfway there
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>>540006265
Be ready for the boss battle at the peak
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>>540006642
As long as the runback isn't a fucking cancerous climb
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does using grapple or dashes somehow reduce the timer on the courier's rasher? i swear it ticks down way faster when i'm just jumping through the map
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>>540006854
no but sprinting into walls and silk soaring into ceilings counts as a hit
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>>540006031
It does but I think a lot of players float too soon, unaware it cuts off the height gained from vaulting off the rings or connecting with an enemy.
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>>540006265
This part is way easier.
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Should I give away the little nigga? This witch doesn't look trustworthy
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>>540007683
It'll be fine.
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No part of this trek was enjoyable or fun in any way and it was easily the worst shit so far in the game
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>>540007861
Yeah, but you get one of the best skills as a reward.
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>>540007861
The reward is worth it, though. Also it's still not as hard as White Palace or Path of Pain like a lot of shitters claimed
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>>540007861
you just don't like parkour, after cave bench it was pretty fun
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>>540008054
Parkour is fine. Parkour on a death timer where missing one jump means falling down a cliff and freezing to death isn't
There's hard and then there's bullshit
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>>540007861
i like blazing through it in 10 minutes on a new save
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>>540008778
Why are you falling down a cliff? Just float and catch onto something.
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>>540008778
If you find yourself falling you can just fall in the direction of warmth and then try again. The cold is literally more forgiving than regular hazards in a sense.
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I'm just not gonna try to beat the skarrgard + flier ant combo until I've gotten a nail upgrade
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>>540008778
>death timer
It's really not that strict, and you lose your health progressively once it starts proccing, you don't turn into an icicle instantly.
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>>540009060
Didn't beat the game.
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did i accidentally end the game? i beat mother silk and kept binding and now it's the end credits?
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>>540009123
you can reload the save to continue, just don't go to act 3 if you wanna do the twisted child ending
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>>540009123
you can go back to the save after. there's still about 20% of the game remaining
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>>540009109
>t. wanderer user
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>>540009245
Seething reapcel
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>>540009327
>he doesn't deny it
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>>540009353
Thanks for confirmation.
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>>540006953
I told him to let the bounce bounce first: >>539952501 so I think he should be ok there.
>>540007683
What's the worst that could happen?
>>540007861
Congrats.
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>>540009416
I use beast crest. You're still a mongoloid writing these things.
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>>540009487
>I use beast crest.
Hahahahahahaha!
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Now that I got the shard is there anything else worth getting here or can I fuck off and never return to this place
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>>540009732
A tool. And another tool.
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>>540009732
Oh you'll return multiple times in act 3.
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How does the thread rate Skull Tyrant in terms of enjoyability. Unsure where to go spend my limited evening
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>>540008778
You can buy a few seconds if you use a Flintslate. It doesn't truly warm you up, but it does pause the freeze timer/health loss while it's active.
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>>540009838
Pretty meh, it doesn't have much to do except charging and jumping a lot
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>>540009838
be careful, that's a touchy wish
you might kill a not-well-known npc with that, the little pilgrim in bone bottom will die if you do that quest too soon
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>540009527
Just the most low tier trash posting you can imagine. Not even slightly funny or enjoyable to read.
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I used Beast Crest for Plasmified Zango, thinking I could outpace his regeneration with my pair of seconds of lifesteal.
I think I would have beaten him quicker with Hunter.
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>>540009838
He was pretty easy, and I like easy, so I have no complaints.
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>>540009732
Memory Crystal in a breakable wall to the right of the paid bench
Another Mask Shard that you can't get right now
Pin Badge that you can't get right now
There's a flea somewhere too
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Double jump is cool but having it on the same button as the float cape is dumb as shit
Could have put the map on L stick click and then float on LB or something
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>>540010351
Zango was a knowlegde check, the way to beat him is to grab the tool from the alchimist and drain Zango, that'll remove his regeneration
But tacks and cogflies worked too
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>>540010704
I drained him like 3-5 times, I died before I could do more. After that the tool was filled so I just submitted it back.
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>>540010576
Yeah, it's especially annoying during some parkour sections where you need to float between spikes.
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>>540010576
you write this right after you got it, play some more and get used to it
think of how much annoying it would be if they had separate buttons, with parkour sections abusing that fact
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>>540010871
I don't think there's any such section where you're not supposed to simply harpoon between the spikes.
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Hornet is trying to climb right into spikes while I'm trying to cling into the top part of the wall platform. Why they put spikes in there if they marked it as a climbable surface?
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>>540011032
Because the hitboxes are kinda shit. It's like how if you're near a retracting cage in the slab, even underneath it, it will hurt you.
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ragequit on flea juggle, now my flea dodge and flea bounce scores are gone
I'm just gonna cheat this shit, fuck this
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I don't get people that didn't like the flea games. They were really fun and I liked them a lot.
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I just realized the other night that wearing the thief's mark makes it so the snitch bugs don't attack you. I'm a bit slow.
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>>540011697
I've seen someone advising Shaman crest for Flea Juggle, but I couldn't win despite many, many attempts. I switched to Hunter and won instantly.
(I also had a longclaw for both crests)
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>>540012019
too much rng in dodge and bounce
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>>540012429
i checked and the game removes ALL your tools and silk skills while in a minigame. i think this is true for sprintmaster too.
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>>540013026
Can you imagine having silkstorm during flea juggle?
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>>540012535
dodge is bullshit because the big flea gets more unfair the longer the game goes on as more fleas spawn to hit you midair and there's nothing to land on
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TC are like a novelist who needs an editor to tell him when he needs to control himself and not add more shit to his already 1300 page behemoth of a book
>one more wave? please can we add one more wave? even another one after the big miniboss guy? one more wave then hehe
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>2nd playthrough
Ah just got the lamest thing in the game
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>>540013330
>and there's nothing to land on
Just pogo the big flea
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>>540013382
Get Shakra and cogflies
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>>540013382
Oh it's gonna be so funny when you find out what comes next.
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>>540013382
>he does not know about the last wave
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>>539996560
Old ass ancient baby
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Not enough boptis in silksong
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>>539991301
>exploit
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>>540008778
Get filtered shitter
>>540007861
You don't enjoy video games
Stop playing
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>>539890976
>>539916868
Gay game
https://files.catbox.moe/g4bn2w.png
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>>540013382
>he doesn't know
Come give us your reaction when you find out.
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>>539917926
The main problem with bosses in this game is they have too little fucking health. It ends up turning bossfights into one minute of mortal kombat "brutality", you go in and the moment you start enjoying the fight its already over.
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The main problem with bosses in this game is they have the right amount of fucking health. It ends up turning bossfights into balanced battles that you can overcome with good uses of tools, nails and silk arts.
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What would you first focus on once you get to act 3?
I'm rather lost since all I've done is kill the bell centipede, find green prince, and accept the abyss quest
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>>540017529
Go to the abyss grab the last movement skill
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>>540017529
you go to the abyss, you'll get the last movement skill and come back out, it's not yet the end of act 3
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>>540017654
>>540017720
Thanks. Didn't want to go in case TC pulled another Garmond point of no return thing.
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>kill an enemy
>actually it isn't dead and you can still get hit because... fuck you, that's why, 2 masks of damage
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>>540018872
Outskilled
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>>540019001
*Outsilked
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the uncle IS in bellhart right?
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i think i can farm 300 gold per minute at songclave from last shrine using double damage charm
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why can't citadel tube stations show up in the map
I have 6 I think and I vaguely remember where 2 of them are, the rest I have no clue
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>>540020152
visit Shakra
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>>539984518
I found Wanderer relatively quickly but I had gotten used to Hunter by then. The only time I used it was to beat Seth's score in Flea Bounce.
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god the fucking flying enemies are so fucking annoying
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Have you apologized yet?
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Tormented Trobbio was easily the worst boss in the game. Nothing about him was fun.
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>>540022550
At what age did you discover you like cock?
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>>540022550
Did you not know you can’t hit the balls?
Hitting the balls away makes it easy
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>>540023008
I don't know, like 12. Don't see how that changes anything.
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>>540019549
Yes. Go to him via the hidden wall in the station.
>>540022550
I had enough trouble with regular Trobbio. Really don't want a harder rematch.
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>>540023090
I did, but the second phase with the random ground pyro was still terrible.
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finally beat GMS with the snare trap.... NOW act 3 begins right? i've been trying to get to it for 15 hours now
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>>540023718
load your save and find out, anon
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>>540023718
Why the rush? And did you battle Shakra and G&Zara? I hear you miss that battle if you reached Act 3 already.
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>>540023840
Wait, you could fight Garmond before act 3?
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>>540023718
check your save, if it's bricked then no, you'll have to start over
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>>540023840
>>540023929
You're locked out of the Garmond and Zaza duel once you defeat the arena battle in High Halls, if I remember right. It's bullshit, complain to TC. It might have requirements to unlock, too.
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I hate missable shit
Why do they brought this shit again in SS?
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did it say the completion percentage after the end credits? I missed it...
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>>540024054
Have you played SS? They're sadists that are living in the 90s with video game rental stores with games that don't respect you. That's their idea of fun.
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>>540024212
you need to unlock it in act 3
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>>540024038
Dang, guess I'll have to fight him pre-corruption during my next playthrough.
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>>540024250
You would need to be worthy of respect, which we both know isn't the case
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>>540024451
https://youtu.be/ovsVU6mktOw?t=149
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>>540023718
Do you people play games and just not engage with side content at all??
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I went out of my way to beat Groal without the wreath or tools with the Hunter's Crest on my second playthrough and the boss still felt like dogshit and I died like 5 times. I think the fight would become somewhat okay if he only charged you after the grab attack. Because after he throws spit at you you can go in for an attack but then he charges into you and you take 2 masks of damage unless you expect it. It was probably my fault I got hit but this isn't a fight I would want to spend a lot of time on (I still won).
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>>540025375
I know he didn't do the spit attack but him charging you can be quite annoying regardless. I may need more practice against him.
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Okay, how do I skip this flea juggle bullshit? I just can't do it.
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>>540025919
flea juggle?
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>>540025919
I get that frustration. You can do it, it's actually easier than you think. Let me give you a couple of tips. One, try to hit them close to each other. Two, let the first flea get as close to the ground as possible before you hit it up, while the next ones in succession you jump to hit and juggle, and keep doing that from there, it should make an easier rhythm. At least it did for me.
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>>540025919 (me)
Once again complaining does help.

>break pinata
>pick up the oil before everything else
>all money just disappears
Amazing.
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>>539913823
People pogo'd during that race?
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>>540028291
I think I had to do it once to save silk for the next jump.
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>>540028261
>Not having magnetite brooch shoved up your ass at all times
Lmao
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make thread
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>>540028261
>those pathetic scores
Seth clears
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Act 3. I have two hearts. Will picking up the third heart, lock me out of fighting the 4th boss
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>>540029286
no but if you want to pick which one to leave as a memento you have to submit the other three before getting the last one or it will default to the fag heart
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>>540029571
Which one is the fag heart?
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>>540030169
the unmarked one from verdania
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>>540009173
>>540009243
i had a save game backup and i just did the fight again and chose the option with needloin and lace coming to save me. now i'm on the right path



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