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#6585 - Meanwhile, in Clown Format Edition

Previous: >>539738718

>Recommended Simulators
Automated:
●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html
●Master Duel (Multi-platform): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850/YuGiOh_Master_Duel
Manual:
●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.com
Tag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.

>Useful Links
Rulebook: https://img.yugioh-card.com/en/downloads/rulebook/SD_RuleBook_EN_10.pdf
Wiki: https://yugipedia.com
Probability Calculator: https://yugioh.fyi
Stock Market: https://yugiohprices.com
Database: https://www.db.yugioh-card.com
Misc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.com

>Banlists
TCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2025-09-15/ (Sep 15/Next Banlist: TBA)
OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2341 (October 1st/Next Banlist: January 1st)

>Decklists
OCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocg
TCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-decks
https://yugiohtopdecks.com (ONLY FOR OLD FORMATS)

>News
JP: https://yugioh-starlight.com
EN: https://ygorganization.com

>Upcoming Releases
OCG:
●World Premiere Pack 2025 (Sep 27)
●Burst Protocol (Oct 25)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 25)
●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)

TCG:
●Doom of Dimensions (Sep 25)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)
●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)
●Phantom Revengers (Dec 4)
●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)

>Events
●/dng/ Friday Night Tourney 3 (TBA): https://challonge.com/dngfnt3
●/dng/ League Season 1 (Sep 21st, 1930 UTC):
https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1
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first for tcg banlist was better
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They're still the best deck in the next format.
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Yeah I don't think this banlist is saving Phantom Revengers
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poop list
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What do the japs think of the list?
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Enneacraft and Killer Tune will keep Mitsurugi from overwhelming the OCG (not you Hecahands)
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>>539893867
https://x.com/yu_gi_oh_jp/status/1969733354506567836
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>Ouroboros ban
Where did this came from lmao
Damn they banned the Constellarknight card before the support even arrived
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>vs got hit
HUH
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>>539893867
https://yugioh-starlight.com/archives/59411684.html
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>>539893997
The OCG will never forgive Ryzeal for its wicked sins of not actively trying to bleed the Master Duel playerbase dry
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>current year
>evil swarm still tanking hits
i kneel.... xyz GODS
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>>539894015
I'm more surprised Dracotail got hit.
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>>539894015
I won't stop seething until mary sue is banned.
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>>539894015
it won worlds, why wouldn't it get hit
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>>539894015
There's nothing shocking about that
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>>539894257
>Yummy only got a slap on the wrist because it didn't win Worlds
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Detonator gave Maliss a really explosive firework during his debut and KoJ execs haven’t recovered from their melty caused by that incident
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>>539894257
kwab
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>>539893442
this OCG list is somehow even worse than jewart's retarded TCG list
i'm already writing an apology form
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>White card handrips
Konami claps
>Black card handrips
Immediately banned

What gives?
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>>539894647
>this OCG list is somehow even worse than jewart's retarded TCG list
Eh it's about the same.
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>banlist bad
>can't say why though
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>>539894856
It's just shitposting.
It's a good list for once.
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>>539894905
It's not perfect but it's pretty alright considering Konami's track record.
At least it's pretty much guaranteed Yummy will be hit hard on January, if it's still the dominating deck.
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>Jokull limit
I mean, in Cyber Dragon this doesn't mean shit, you can just go add more Lanterns or back to good old Galaxy Soldier
>Izuna semi limit
Eh, it will be fine
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>>539894389
The situation in Master Duel makes a lot more sense if you assume it's the hands of an exec that never really got over Ryzeal's continual and constant domination over Maliss which can only ever be absolved by having Maliss girls femdom Detonator, and findom the playerbase too while they're at it
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>>539895056
Pretty sure it's more of a VSK9 hit rather than Cydra hit.
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>>539895065
Ryzeal stopped being relevant in OCG long ago lol
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>>539895114
Evidently the OCG disagrees given they just banned Ouroboros
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>>539894818
ouroboros ban is far more fundamentally retarded than everything on the latest list
it's so bad that i genuinely thought it was some manner of joke hit like that time they banned an old ass card in covid
the unhits are complete nothingburgers, at least TCG had some interesting ones
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>>539895179
There is nothing wrong with killing a handloop card
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>>539894647
I mean, banning Obedience Schooled instead of limiting it and limiting Ketu and Jokull is overall good
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>>539895249
What deck do you think the Ouroboros ban was for? Evidently, the OCG has an axe to grind with Ryzeal which can only be solved by Hearts of Crypter grinding her pelvis onto Detonator's face
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MDs team clearly favours Waifushit. They never hit Kitkalos and they keep shilling Maliss.
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>>539895112
I know, I was just wondering how would you have to operate if TCG did the same hits
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>>539895202
>ouroboros ban is far more fundamentally retarded than everything on the latest list
>it's so bad that i genuinely thought it was some manner of joke hit like that time they banned an old ass card in covid
What? Imps, Splash and Moon were joke hits too.

>the unhits are complete nothingburgers, at least TCG had some interesting ones
What are you on about? It's all the unban that's been done in the OCG beside SEs and BranFus (which was a surprise it wasn't semi'd).
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>>539893867
too busy playing One Piece
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>>539895538
>Imps, Splash and Moon were joke hits too.
Splash wasn't, it was a fuck you to Maliss
KotFI and Moon were jewish hits, not joke hits
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>>539895538
>Imps, Splash and Moon were joke hits too
they aren't joke hits, in the sense that i didn't think they were made as a joke for some reason
there's a justification behind them that is relatively plausible, talks about banning imps, spalsh and moon have been a thing for months
meanwhile hitting ouroboros to hit ryzael is just so fucking stupid that it's genuinely unreal to me that that's their justification
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>>539868679
Damn we stealing from Digimon now?
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>>539895538
Maliss, MitsuRyzeal and le Fiendshit variants were surprisingly still decks people played and had success with even after JUSH. Hitting top decks 5 and 6 when you hit top decks 1, 2, and 4 comes across as a lot more reasonable to randomly hitting the deck with 5 tops out of 243, and not, the three other decks with large visible percentages of tournament tops above it, and fucking Tenpai. If the OCG randomly hit Solfachords, you'd ask if they'd have some sort of odd vendetta against it for some reason
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>>539894723
It's an old card so it doesn't sell any sets.
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Lunalight intentionally throwing in the finals of worlds to dodge being demolished by the banlist in either format.
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Can't believe we have people genuinely defending hitting handloop cards.
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>>539895730
>Splash wasn't, it was a fuck you to Maliss
>it was a fuck you to an irrelevant deck that could have been hit directly instead
It was absolutely a fucking joke of a hit.

>KotFI and Moon were jewish hits, not joke hits
In what way exactly?
What product do they sell more after these cards were hit?

>>539895851
>there's a justification behind them that is relatively plausible
There's as much as hitting Ouroboros, they're all cards could stay at 3 and nothing would change.
>talks about banning imps, spalsh and moon have been a thing for months
Crazy that you think the opinions of the playerbase, especially in the west, matters.

>>539896036
What are you on about?
These hits are as random as hitting Solfachords because no one play these cards anymore.
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Decks for this feel?
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>>539896309
>cards
*decks
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>>539896371
>helicopter
RACE?
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>>539896309
>What product do they sell more after these cards were hit?
JUSH.
Prominent playable non-JUSH decks were hit, engines were hit. It's all designed to increase the power gap between non-JUSH and JUSH decks to make JUSH more appealing to players
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>>539896770
>Prominent
What prominent decks run Imps, Splash and Moon exactly?
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>>539896912
>Imps
Any Mitsu deck, like MitsuRyzeal
>Splash
Maliss
>Moon
Literally any deck running a Fiendsmith package
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>>539897020
Ah, so irrelevant decks with barely any tops?
People who keep up with meta have already played the latest meta decks, whatever it is, and people who are still playing these decks are poor or just like those decks and won't cough up the money for JUSH cards.
So how is weakening these trash decks going to sell JUSH?
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>>539897020
NTA, but Fiendsmith had completely fallen out of the meta, everyone dropped that shit for K9. Banning Moon is a clown move
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>>539896309
Banning Ophion is like if the TCG banned Oak or Crimson Dragon or some shit
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>>539897192
>Ah, so irrelevant decks with barely any tops?
They were the most relevant non-JUSH decks that DID get tops. Konami hit them to make it so JUSH tops more and is more appealing.

>>539897207
>everyone dropped that shit for K9
Except the people who didn't, who continued to use Fiendsmith. Thus, Konami hit Fiendsmith to make the K9 engine more appealing
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>>539896309
>Crazy that you think the opinions of the playerbase, especially in the west, matters.
i'm not saying they do or that i agree with the hits, but at least they make enough sense that several people thought of them individually
hitting ouroboros to me is on a level of retardation to something like a silhouhatte ban because odion.dek uses it to top occasionally, but even more retarded because ouroboros isn't even that important for ryzeal
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>>539897254
Not really, what's the point of banning Splash Mage when Maliss has only 6% topping percentage?
At least Mitsurugi has around 10%.
Meanwhile FS isn't really used by any of the topping decks.

>>539897371
>They were the most relevant non-JUSH decks that DID get tops. Konami hit them to make it so JUSH tops more and is more appealing.
Yes, the most relevant irrelevant decks, amazing.
Your argument about appeal doesn't work because there's barely anyone who play those decks anymore, there's no guarantee they will spend money for JUSH either.

>>539897489
It doesn't make sense though?
As for why, just read the reply chain above.
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Fools, OCG didn't limited Ketu because it was more powerful than Rahu, they limited it because it had a man in it
TCG will limit Rahu and Faimena instead
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why oroboros isn't banned in tcg?
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>>539897371
>Except the people who didn't, who continued to use Fiendsmith.
So nothing relevant
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>>539897838
>It doesn't make sense though?
are you autistic?
>As for why, just read the reply chain above.
i'm more convinced by the other anon's argument than your retarded ones, you are literally just repeating yourself because you got BTFO and ran out of things to say by now but clearly want the last word
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>>539897838
>Your argument about appeal doesn't work because there's barely anyone who play those decks anymore, there's no guarantee they will spend money for JUSH either.
It works because Konami is gambling that people who have their deck made even more irrelevant will hop ship to good decks.
Konami isn't making money from people playing MitsuRyzeal or Fiendsmith packages or Maliss anymore, so might as well try and force them to buy actually good decks so Konami makes more money. If they don't, they WILL eventually buy again because Yugioh players are spineless coward fucks who can't quit the game if their life depended on it, so Konami will get money eventually. If they do, they get money immediately.
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>>539897897
Trishula just can't stop losing
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>>539898093
>AAIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>539897489
Handloop is unfair and thus deserves the hit. It is not the deep. Rank 4 handloop xyz should not be allowed when rank 4 decks are good at putting bodies on board
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>>539897838
6%
Yeah, and Dracotail has 15%, Crystron K9 has 8.5%, if you hit every deck above it sans 1, it would naturally stand to reason Maliss would become more powerful, especially since it was a top dog last format. Hitting basically the top 5 decks is a lot more sensical than randomly hitting a deck with 5 tops and ignoring 3 of the top dogs while doing so
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>Literally ban Yummy's best starter and potential extender
>Konami wants to shill this deck btw
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>>539898213
It's not a loop though
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>>539898248
schooled is unironically overrated as fuck
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>>539898393
Said by literally noone
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>>539898393
Lol
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>>539898248
The starter is an old card. They want you to buy new cards instead.
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>>539898213
Omega 7, shuffle this man back into the Deck
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>>539898243
>it would naturally stand to reason Maliss would become more powerful
No it wouldn't because that's not how statistics work in this case. The cardpool and sidedecks change all the time. Maliss is stronger in a format where it isn't the best deck
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>>539898539
>Maliss gets stronger the weaker it gets
The shit you will read here
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>>539898393
>Triple E Tele is overrated
Sometimes you guys will just say whatever
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>>539898539
>Maliss is stronger in a format where it isn't the best deck
Maybe if it was like the 2nd best deck, not the fucking 5th.
Maliss isn't "strong" when there are a bunch of decks better than it. Any power boost it gets from falling off the radar is undone by the fact that the other decks are strong enough to need to IGNORE Maliss to deal with them.
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>>539898049
>are you autistic?
Are you?
>i'm more convinced by the other anon's argument than your retarded ones, you are literally just repeating yourself because you got BTFO and ran out of things to say by now but clearly want the last word
You're convinced because you're retarded and has no actual argument why they should've been hit, you have yet to present your own argument why these cards should be hit.

>>539898084
Assumptions, at this point you're just grasping at straws to make an excuse for KoA's retarded hits instead of acknowledging it really was just retarded hits.
You literally have no proof it worked.

>>539898243
>Yeah, and Dracotail has 15%, Crystron K9 has 8.5%, if you hit every deck above it sans 1, it would naturally stand to reason Maliss would become more powerful, especially since it was a top dog last format. Hitting basically the top 5 decks is a lot more sensical than randomly hitting a deck with 5 tops and ignoring 3 of the top dogs while doing so
Sure, let's go with that, they could just hit Maliss cards directly instead of Splash Mage, still a fucking joke of a hit.
Where's your argument for Imps and Moon?
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>>539898840
Uhm, I feel like you definitely don't want to give mitsu access to any deck that can summon to level 4 onto the field
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>VS gets taken out back in both formats
>K9 laughs and slaps itself onto another deck
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>>539898840
>Assumptions, at this point you're just grasping at straws to make an excuse for KoA's retarded hits instead of acknowledging it really was just retarded hits.
You are under the assumption that Konami has no plan for anything and just hits things at random. Konami ARE retarded, but there is always underlying reason to the retardation. I gave you the reason.
>You literally have no proof it worked.
You literally have no proof it didn't either.
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>>539898743
I fail to see what this has to do with the original point. Maliss in its current crippled state becoming more powerful, since other decks got hit just means people put Lancea in their side again.
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>broken and insufferable t0 card
>lets semi limit it
i hate konami
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Stake your Soul got away with it in OCG at least
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>>539899134
It is literally just a BoM or a pop or a typhon on opponent turn
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>>539899043
K9 got hit harder than VS in OCGland. At least they didn't touch SYS
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Hi friends, the DUAD/JUSH Format has come to an end with the release of the September 15 Forbidden and Limited list update. Doom of Dimensions is set to release on September 25, 2025 and kickstart the format.

DUAD/JUSH lasted for 10 weeks, featured 5 Premier events, and was packed with numerous events. Let's check out the data!

The Best Decks
283 Vanquish Soul (244 K9, 39 Pure)
240 Yummy (4 Mitsurugi, 4 Fiendsmith, 1 Snake-Eye)
224 Mitsurugi (Ryzeal, Fiendsmith, and Pure)

Top Tier
153 Maliss (6 Sky Striker, 1 Mitsurugi)
148 Dracotail (15 Shaddoll, 10 K9, 5 Fiendsmith, 5 Dragonmaid, 2 Branded)
90 Crystron (84 K9, 3 Millennium, 2 Horus, 1 Pure)

Meta Contenders
33 Lunalight (1 Danger)
30 Ryzeal (19 Onomat, 10 Heraldic, 1 Primite)
27 Memento (6 Fiendsmith, 3 K9, 2 Millennium)
23 Orcust (13 Mitsurugi, 4 Azamina, 3 Fiendsmith)

Rogue
17 Primite Blue-Eyes (1 Fiendsmith)
13 Sky Striker (1 Mitsurugi)
12 Gem-Knight
11 Azamina White Forest (1 Kashtira)
10 Atlantean Mermail

Creative Choices
6 K9* (1 Fiendsmith) (as a deck)
4 Branded Despia (1 Dracotail)
4 Fire King
4 Labrynth (1 Fiendsmith)
3 Artmage (1 Fiendsmith, 1 Branded, 1 Dracotail)
3 Evil Twin (Fiendsmith)
3 Regenesis (2 Kashtira, 1 Mitsurugi, 1 Dogmatika)
2 Centur-Ion (Superheavy Samurai)
2 Cyber Dragon (K9)
2 P.U.N.K. (1 Fiendsmith)
2 Stun (1 Morganite, 1 Dogmatika)
2 Yubel (Fiendsmith)

Singular Sightings
1 Dinosaurs (Jurrac)
1 Dragon Ruler
1 Earth Machine (R.B.)
1 Eldlich
1 Goblin Biker (Fiendsmith)
1 Melodious
1 Primite* (as a deck)
1 Rescue-ACE
1 Six Samurai
1 Tenpai Dragon
1 Unchained (Fiendsmith)
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>>539899234
yeah just ban it due to having no restrictions
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>>539899134
izuna isn't even that bad, it's sur that should be limited or straight up banned
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>>539899447
>due to having no restrictions
you can simply not activate hand effects
izuna is fair because most decks can actually play around her, and some straight up can ignore her
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>>539899437
>pure primite
holy based
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>>539899623
>opponent does sth
>activate handtrap to stop it
>they activate izuna to get 2 free bodies
N-nice
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>>539899623
>just don't play the game and reduce the number of dwindling players this game has
genius move konami
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>>539899874
we live in a dominus world now, and both mulcharmies make izuna way worse
izuna is also super slow, in the sense that she's not an instant interruption from hand like ash or ghost ogre and as a result is super telegraphed
pkus she needs a brick and ED space
there's a reason pretty much all decks dropped the K9 package unless they are fully committing to a hybrid K9 deck like crystron and VS
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>>539900162
>and both mulcharmies make izuna way worse
The Mulcharmies legit do nothing.
>Use Purulia? Izuna can directly respond to it to deny you the draw from her
>Use Fuwalos? Izuna mills and Lupis summons from GY and you are under no obligation to Xyz Summon immediately, so just do it next turn with Lupis' effect to ignore the Fuwalos draw
Dominus cards are good counters, but sometimes you just can't use them. If your deck relies on LIGHT and DARK cards for example, you are just straight up unable to use any Dominus.
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>>539900524
>Izuna can directly respond to it to deny you the draw from her
izuna is during the main phase only you goddamn retard
>Use Fuwalos? Izuna mills and Lupis summons from GY and you are under no obligation to Xyz Summon immediately, so just do it next turn with Lupis' effect to ignore the Fuwalos draw
and risk getting hit with another handtrap to end on an even more worthless board? yeah sure
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>>539900857
>izuna is during the main phase only you goddamn retard
If you are shotgunning Purulia you are opening yourself up to pivoting away from hand summons, enabling cards like Thrust immediately and just generally opening yourself up to getting fucked in more ways. You effectively handrip yourself for no gain, especially considering your opponent can just Izuna next turn when you inevitably use a hand or GY effect again
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>>539900962
you are acting like the opponent is playing a deck that only has izuna and 36 generic cards
purulia is literally the safest handtrap to shotgun by far specifically because pretty much every single goddamn deck that exists wants to at least make 1 NS so it's always 1-for-1, and during the DP/SP it prevents you from triggering TT
also that's another thing about izuna, she enables TTs so hard that it's actually a detriment
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>>539900962
How many decks in the meta game can play under Purulia giving the opponent 0 draws
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New synchro archetype that can spam Trishula when?
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Deck for this feel?
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>>539902281
tears-kashtyra
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>>539902281
mannadium
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>>539901867
You can Trish like twice in Merlanteans, after you handripped them with Moulinglacia
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Its actually baffling how retarded and/ or mentally ill the average cardshitter is, let alone the fatties in this thread fucking defending dogshit like Ouroboros because it "doesn't even le top" to seem smart somehow
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>>539899437
>(1 Danger)
need
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>>539903883
>oh cool, do you plan on hitting on all the handrip cards like you did with the FTK enablers
>no
>so why are you hitting ouroboros
>for uhh onomat ryzeal
>the deck that isn't topping
>yes
Thank you for your input, unfortunately, you seem to be profoundly retarded.
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>>539903883
You have to realize that we live in an age where Darkworld can handloop, X-Sabers can handloop and every virus card can be set from deck. Ourobouros is like the 11th best handrip option.
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>>539903883
I mean, it was okay to ban it. But it just came out of nowhere
>because it "doesn't even le top" to seem smart somehow
At the end of the day that's all Konami cares about, no one is in a hurry to ban The World, searcheable Heavy Slump to dunk on Maxx C/Mulcharmies, EEV or Mjollnir lock (which SHOULD have been banned too)
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>>539903883
Yeah, because instead of hitting something relevant they hit a card that barely does anything.
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>why are you hitting the deck with 5 tops out of 243 tops instead of the 3rd, 5th, and 6th best decks that have seen continual success at high level events and aren't particularly new
>...
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>>539904605
>Branded doing Ido/Puppet lock while not even being the top 3 deck vs. K9 doing Mjollnir/Spell Canceller lock bein a Worlds winner
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>>539902281
Lunalight, pic rel has super saiyan 5 (Esencia dragon ball) hair.
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>>539904876
I have to congratulate these furry whores on dodging banlist hits like crazy, that Fenrir nigger would be proud
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Rate their banlist.
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>>539905119
Dogshit
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>>539905119
roach still alive / 10
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>>539905119
It's meme shitpost tier, with the most "exciting" thing being the Eclipse unban. Watch it do fucking nothing.
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unban elpy
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>>539905119
>hit Yummy better
>hit K9 harder instead of just VS
>hit Dracotail
metawise speaking it's better than TCG, the rest is abhorrent dogshit
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>>539905119
insanely bad
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>>539905260
>e-tele on steroid ban is nothing
>herald to 1 is nothing
>razen to 1 is nothing
>jokull to 1 is nothing
>Ketu to 1 is nothing
>Izuna to 2 is nothing
Faggot
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>>539905516
they could've limited snatchy and left arc light alone
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>>539904248
say please
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>>539905797
Arc Light limited is okay, Yummy playing two was gay as fuck
>but Ritual decks
You have Omega reciclying dude, you will be okay
>Snatchy
As much as I would love to see this mf limited, Konami clearly wants them to stay relevant
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Do you even need more than 2 snatchy?
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Yu-Gi-Oh! Chushikoku Revised Predicted Tier List
(Created on 2025.9/21)
※Includes themes released in the World Premium Pack.

Predicted Tier S: Moonlight, M∀LICE, and Serpent Sword.
Moonlight and M∀LICE are expected to significantly increase their share due to their high usage in Chushikoku and the regulation of top-tier decks.
M∀LICE is likely to benefit from the ease of adopting Drool & Lockbird, which is expected to see increased use going forward.
Additionally, Serpent Sword from the new World Premium Pack themes is predicted.
Attention is on whether it can achieve results matching its overseas reputation.

Predicted Tier A: Sky Striker and Raizeol.
These decks, also highly popular in Chushikoku, are expected to rank in the upper tiers.
While Raizeol’s early-game deployment power is reduced due to the ban of Vells Ouroboros, its ability to reliably surpass Lygardancer is highly rated.

Tier B: Yummy and DD.
Yummy is expected to drop significantly in tier due to strict regulations.
To be used in tournaments, optimal repairs are necessary, but with Snatchy’s restriction, gameplay is expected to become considerably tougher.
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>>539906172
you always plays as many as possible, a semi does affect you but not that much anyways
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>>539904310
theyll hit all the others the second people actually play them, youre too retarded and out of touch with the game so you legitimately dont understand that ouroboros was one of the main wincons of mitsurugi ryzeal that made it as unhealthy as it was, and onomat ryzeal basically exists to do nothing except spam out ouroboros

the card and anything like it should be banned in all formats for the rest of time, and the second retarded niggers start actually playing some irrelevant badly designed meme trash like dark world, ceruli or silva will also be gone in a flash
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>>539906958
Why are these faggot underselling yummy and dracotail?
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>>539906958
>OCG will have full power mitsu with bo hits
ouroboros was a good hit that made sense though ryzaeal is shit now :)))
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back to school products
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Mentally ill women archetype?
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>>539906958
>Attention is on whether it can achieve results matching its overseas reputation.
they finally listening to the gaijins
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>>539907215
Diabellstar and diabellze
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>>539906998
https://roadoftheking.com/ocg-2025-07-metagame-report-8-9-10/
>243 decks
>5 Onomat Ryzeal
I really like how this trooncasing crybaby immediately pivoted from "UH WE GOTTA HIT ALL THE HECKIN CANCER" to "OH LAWDY THE BROKEN RYZEAL NEEDS MORE HITS". Yeah man, Mitsu Ryzeal, such a fucking powerhouse deck in JUSH format.
Also lmao when has the OCG hit decks before release, are you retarded? Don't need to answer that we can already tell lmao
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>>539907294
exosisters
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>>539907446
Meant for >>539907294
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May I return in the TCG too?
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>>539906998
Where are the Maliss hits nigger
Where are the Striker hits nigger
Where are the Lunalight hits nigger
In what fucking world has the philosophy of a banlist been "pre-hit what isn't even projected to be the best deck for an upcoming product" instead of "hit the best decks in the format" holy shit you are the most dumbest gorilla nigger ever
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>>539907498
You need to legitimately kill yourself, "people" like you are the reason why this game is as shit as it is. There is literally no logical reason to defend something like ouroboros except pure contrarian retardation/ admitting that your "skill" and ability to win in this game boils down to praying your opponent opens dogshit and then proceeding to handloop them down to an even more unplayable state
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On the 17th, the Hyogo Prefectural Police Kakogawa Station arrested a 25-year-old man with no fixed address who claims to be a company employee on suspicion of fraud for allegedly convincing someone to buy counterfeit trading cards of the popular manga "Yu-Gi-Oh!". The man denies the charges, saying, "I didn't think they were fake."

He was arrested on suspicion of selling counterfeit cards as genuine at a second-hand goods store in Nagasuna, Noguchi-cho, Kakogawa City, Hyogo Prefecture on June 2, 2023, and defrauding 105,000 yen in cash.

According to the police, the character on the card is "Ten Thousand Dragons." An employee other than the one in charge of purchasing the cards noticed the hologram differences and other issues.

The man used his driver's license as identification when purchasing the car, but did not live at the address listed. After receiving a report of the crime, the police station began investigating the man's whereabouts. He was found in Himeji City on the 17th of this month.
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potential
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>>539907684
yes
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the strongest
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>>539904310
>if you aren't going to hit all of them then leave the cancer untouched
fuck off
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Unban when
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>>539907734
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-631971
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-625394
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-626050
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-626427
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-627919
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-625275
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-626149
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-625287
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-626035
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-625276
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-625406
>no Ouroboros
Out of the first 13 Ryzeal Mitsurugi variants, 11 of them aren't on Ouroboros, so what new cope will you come up with given that this "wincon" isn't even fucking present on these lists, you fucking retarded apenigger?
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Some reactions to the banlist from our friends on Starlight.
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>>539908349
When you boot up master duel
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>>539908382
>we need to keep low IQ unhealthy garbage like ouroboros and pair a dice legal because not enough people are using them according to me
like I said, "people" like you should be killed, holy shit the vast majority of cardfatties need to go back to special ED
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>>539908425
>japs agree banning ouroboros was a good choice
but /dng/ said...
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>>539908425
>eclipse, is it okay to you to come back
why japs write retarddly?
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>>539908382
>posting TCG lists in response to an OCG ban
are you mentally retarded?
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>>539908425
For slow people, gekko = lunalight = moonlight
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>>539908382
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-625590
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-625105
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-625399
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-625282
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-626432
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-621581
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-621641
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-621699
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-621701
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-621356
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-621746
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-621345
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/ryzeal-mitsurugi-621343
https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fiendsmith-ryzeal-mitsurugi-621743
Even more Tier 3 topping Ryzeal Mitsurugi shit not on Ouroboros, waiting for this retarded nig to rope himself
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>>539908425
>restrain him with Kadosho and Little Knight
only good opinion in there
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>>539908881
Are you retarded
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>>539909012
who the fuck speak about a piece of cardboard like it was alive and like he could answer stupid question. japs are retards
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How do I use Eclispe Wyvern exactly? Dragon Shrine dumps it and then what?
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>>539908425
why do they like bagooska so much over there?
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>>539908890
>the OCG had to ban Ouroboros to stop Mitsurugi Ryzeal! Ouroboros was that deck's wincon!
>the vast majority of topping Mitsu Ryzeal lists aren't on Ouroboros
>UM WHY DOES IT MATTER WHAT THE TCG IS DOING
Are you retarded? Can you follow a fucking conversation?
>>539908738
>new retarded cope
>he thinks VSK9 wasn't almost universally on fucking Pair-A-Dice
>he thinks retarded wombo-combo Ouroboros loops the vast majority of decks weren't even on is the same thing as Pair-A-Dice
Really rather curious as to what your copegument is on why Protos didn't get preemptively hit given that it's also a wincon MitsuRyzeal employed
Also, still looking for that argument on why Striker, Maliss, and Lunalight didn't get hit too.
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>>539909113
u grab bes dragon
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>>539909097
You are not only unable to talk about what would happen if you didn't eat breakfast tommorow, you're also bitching about a google translate translation being stilted.
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>>539908425
Anon 30 is right, they could at least hit bagooska to pretend to hit lunalight.
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>>539909271
yes because japs are retards
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>>539909309
just limit Heavy Polymerization, their actual strong card
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>>539908176
Me on the right
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>>539908425
Here's a few more, but they have a lot in the thread.

https://yugioh-starlight.com/archives/59411684.html
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>>539909271
NTA but the original text is similar
>エクリプスお前帰って来ていいんかよ!?
which is
>Eclipse, is it good if you return!?
They are directly asking the question to the card itself. It's not like they are saying "Is Eclipse coming back fine for the game?"
Imagine if people posting about our TCG list said shit like
>Splash Mage, how could you leave us like this!!!
>Pair-A-Dice, your crimes will never be forgiven
>Drident, I hope your time in prison did not change you
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>>539906172
Netdeckers do, they always lose both of them to Nibiru and then Surprise gets Belle.
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>>539909271
But I did have breakfast
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It's funny seeing the responses about Ouroboros on both sides.
TCG saying "what the fuck why is this random card getting hit its literally not doing anything impactful"
OCG saying "holy shit thank fuck I could see that hit from a fucking mile away"
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>>539909771
>Anon 32
based mitsu enjoyer
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>>539909787
it is funny when they talk like that, it creates intimicity with the cards but it is at the same time retard
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I really do like that this retard is seriously trying to argue that the OCG is suddenly into preemptive hits, as if that has ever been a thing they did or do.
I too, remember when the OCG prehit the SHS FTK, or VFD before Virtual World came out, or HRDAA before Centurion was released, or Scythe when Ryzeal came out, or Pair-A-Dice before K9 came out, or Beatrice before the Fiendsmith came out, or Catapult Turtle before Tachyon came out, or Gimmick Puppet before INFO, yep, good old OCG, oh wait they never did those things because the OCG design philosophy is to let the OCG playerbase eat shit for a banlist until they hit whatever degenerate shit the top decks get up to except this time it's not even a top deck lmao
Remember the Scythe limit? Remember the VFD limit? Djinn Releaser didn't even get banned until 2020, Vanities didn't get banned until 2020. Rhongo didn't get banned until ages after the Invoker unban. When the fuck has the OCG ever given a shit about preemptively hitting degeneracy?
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>>539909931
As a TCG player I recognize that Ouroboros getting banned is an objectively good thing, it's only braindead retards that think otherwise so don't group us all together.
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Heavy Poly reprint when? I want to run it in D/D/D but also don't want to spend $20 per copy on a meme tech
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>>539910143
>Scythe when Ryzeal came out
huh??
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I find it really weird that no one thinks about the bigger implications of “The fallen and the virtuous” even though Ecclesia, Quem, and Cartesia have the same typings [Spellcaster/tuner/effect] and stats. The new dogmatika cards are level 8 monsters with equal stats, which can end up making the level 12 synchros, and notably don’t have any locks tied to their cards.
So whatever they’re designing for branded and dogmatika, they’ve wanted to allow for unrestricted ED dumping for new support they’re designing in the future.
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>>539909931
>TCG
A total of 2 ryzealfags. Those faggots were just butthurt that OCG didn't hit maliss. Peak KWAB bahavior
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>>539910296
The joke is none of those cards got hit before they ruined a format, and thus the retard arguing that "Ouroboros is a preemptive Mitsurugi Ryzeal hit" is retarded, and wrong.
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>>539910282
t2 play card
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>>539910282
Heavy poly would go so fucking hard if Verte was legal
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>>539910398
k thanks but...didn't scythe was banned after SHS abuse or it happened in the tcg, don't remember
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>>539910371
Really not sure why you didn't just lead with "I don't like Ryzeal and I like Maliss" instead of making some inane arguments about how Ouroboros is this totally hyperconventional MitsuRyzeal wincon or some shit and KoJ is just suddenly into the sanctity of their virgin format against theoretical decks before they even come out.
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>Add in Striker cards
>Go about your day
Nice list chuds
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>>539910282
You had years when it was just a few cents, if you didn't need it then you don't need it now.
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>>539910570
Not the guy you were talking with, you schizo
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>>539910652
>years
It was released last year and D/D/D only really started doing things in August in the OCG
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>>539908425
>>539909771
There is something funny that even the OCG is wondering why Lunalight and Maliss got 0 hits meanwhile here we have fags weeping if you even dare ask why neither of those decks got hit
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>>539910623
thanks for the extra fuwa draws
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>>539910838
Point still stands. You're like a toddler who only wants a toy when they can't have it. Konami knows that you people are like this and that's why this game keeps getting worse and worse.
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>>539910347
Can you use The Fallen and the Virtuous in turn 0 if you have the New Fleur on the field?
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You know it just occurred to me that the OCG's equivalent to TCG's hatred of Cyberse is their hatred of Thunder, they couldn't even be assed to give Thundra an actual support wave
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Not so funny now. Suggesting less Dracotail spells and now the next list will force you to do that.
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>>539911052
>You're like a toddler who only wants a toy when they can't have it.
I'm not playing the fucking stock market on a meme tech of a deck that only start putting out results around the same time the card started spiking.
The game keeps getting worse because you gatekeeping retards keep acting like the default state of all people is to immediately purchase and buy out all cards in the vain hope that they suddenly pop off and become good.
I am not a stock broker, I am wanting to play the card game I like
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>>539905119
OCG has better taste than the fucking TCG
At least they didn't limit Talent or ban Moon unlike the fucking TCG
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>>539911565
all the TTTs should be at 0, it's abhorrent card design
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>>539911565
>didn't limit Talent
it should have been at 2
> or ban Moon unlike the fucking TCG
OCG sometimes does good hits, limiting Engraver and Tract is way better than banning Moon. TCG should have done the same
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>>539911741
please kys thx
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>looking up japanese twitter responses to Maliss and Lunalight
>a bunch of Japs bitching about the lack of hits to Maliss in both MD and OCG
It's pretty funny that legitimately only here, in this general, do you get random Malissfags vehemently defending their deck from getting hits and everywhere else everyone fucking loathes playing against the deck
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>>539911848
For me it's the one poster unironically asking for a Lancea ban
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>>539911848
Mindbroken
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>>539911848
For me its the one poster unironically asking for a Simorgh unban
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>Implying Lunalight will be bonkers tier 1
Literally POTENTIALMAN archetype.
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>>539912117
:)
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>>539911974
Unfortunately, there's a plural amount of them, since Maze is one of them, although he does samefag so maybe.
But it is just really fucking funny that /dng/ is the last stand of Malissfags and they will fight to the teeth to tell you that uh actually everyone that hates or makes fun of Maliss is one person and that you can't just go to any other discussion forum and come to the immediate and obvious conclusion nobody likes playing against Maliss
I'm like, legitimately rather curious as to if Malissfag can come up with a discussion forum in which people are supposedly very positive about the existence of an unhit Maliss
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Blonde Alice should be a hand trap who shuffles a banished card to summon herself. White hair Alice is a bad subversion of an iconic design.
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>>539912157
IMO most anime decks can never be tier 0/tier 1 again even if they get bonkers support just because their card counts became too bloated and if you can't fit 15 handtraps AND remain consistent with 12 one card combos AND remain under 40 then you're just not tier 0 material no matter how good your endboard is.
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>>539911578
or if they give lswarm some support
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>>539912647
>AND remain under 40
40 limit hasn't been true in a decade
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aluber NEEDS to be part of a fusion so it's a target for fusion deployment. you just released the alt art, do you really not wanna sell it and make money? give me the aluber fusion
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>>539911308
No. It’s a quickplay spell. Although, the lines between branded and dogmatika is getting blurrier.
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>>539909249
>on why Protos didn't get preemptively hit given that it's also a wincon MitsuRyzeal employed
protos is once per turn
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>>539911848
Maliss is just nerfed Tearlaments.
Which is why Lancea and D-shifter are their biggest counter cards.
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>>539911974
I am not a Malissfag but I think Lancea should get banned, alongside killing off Maliss via direct hits.
Cards that auto-win by invalidating entire concepts are fucking retarded, like Droll and Shifter.
Hindering your opponent is one thing, stunning your opponent out of the game is another.
Handtraps should be singular interactions, or have the ability to be properly played around. Siding in a card that says "Your opponent can't play the game" is unironically shit gameplay for a game to have
>B-BUT WHAT ABOUT DECKS THAT RUN AWAY WITH THE GAME IF NOT COMPLETELY STUNNED OUT OF A MECHANIC??????????
hit them what the fuck
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>>539893442
>Malice didn't get a cope hit that it didn't need like the TCGcucks did because muh Yugituber grifters were crying about it none stop
I didn't know OCG could be based like this.
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>>539913254
>like Droll
Anon if you ban Droll you unleash 294742 different flavors of cancer. No sane person is going to do that
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>>539910347
branded synchro GODS are eating good. honestly it would be for the best if branded fusion isn't used anymore. fuck that ash bait
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>>539913236
>Cyberse Linkspam
>Fusion mill deck
UHHHH I guess there's in women it.
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>>539912940
They could always retrain Aluber to being a “fallen of albaz” with a new typing that goes into the new Ecclesia/Despia cards.
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>>539913384
Lancea's still not getting banned btw
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>>539910143
Did you consider in your infinite retardation that ryzeal debuted in the OCG whereas konami has had the entirety of the tcg mitsurugi ryzeal meta to analyze the impact of garbage like ouroboros before the archetype ever came near release in the OCG?
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>>539913535
>what if this card wasn't shit
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>>539913563
Oh wait better image
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>>539913689
>Konami be like yooo a tuner that's also mind control yooooooooo or monster reborm be crazy.
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>all this crying about a handripping garbage strategy getting axed
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>>539913663
>>539908382
>>539908912
Yeah, that's probably why I posted 25 topping Ryzeal Mitsurugi lists not on Ouroboros that weren't particularly hard to find, literally just spamming the first Mitsurugi Ryzeal lists that came up. Also, again, Protos. And, again, when has the OCG ever preemptively hit decks? Do you have any concept of object permanence? If something isn't immediately mentioned, you just forget about it.
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>>539912852
40 is more relevant than ever because if you dont draw the right cards on turn 0 you most likely lost already.
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>>539913943
It's kinda baffling to hit a deck with 5 tops and a deck with 0 tops in Tenpai over the actual top decks with visible percentages in the piechart and representation in high level tournaments that even japs are actively confused by the lack of hits for, yeah. It's kinda like if the TCG or OCG forgot to ban King Calamity and then only decided Centurion needed to be hit right now while forgetting to hit like an actual meta deck
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>>539913448
They would probably put branded fusion at three and Verte at 1, simply because of the stupid nine Max Cs.
>”I GET TWO DRAWS FOR ONE SPECIAL SUMMON.”
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>>539914282
if it's making the game miserable on any level it should be banned fuck that topping nonsense
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>>539914305
Or just ban Fuwalos. Maxx C and it's clones shouldn't exist
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>>539914509
It's baffling to hit a shitty deck making the game miserable, and also not the good decks making the game miserable, and also the other cards the shitty deck can employ to make the game miserable, or a bunch of other cards making the game miserable. If it was like a mass banlist hitting a bunch of random floodgates and handrips it'd be understandable, but this is just randomly hitting Ryzeal for no reason
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>>539913689
>>539913863
This card makes me so angry when it could’ve been a starter/extender for Bystial synchro plays or search for Quem and Cartesia.

He’s supposed to be the king of Bystials. Treat him like one.
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>>539914861
>Treat him like one.
he's a faggot and a clown, he deserves no respect
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It's pretty funny that the DBP is the entirely irrelevant set begging for the second wave to save it and the World Premiere Pack is the thing to be excited for meta-wise in the OCG
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losing obedience, paired with losing one l1nk is a really huge deal
yummy is toast
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Actually, even if we assume that all three JUSH decks die with the hits, doesn't Striker, Maliss and Lunalight all eat PHRE's lunch like it's nothing? I don't think any of them have a favorable matchup against any of them, KoJ can't even be assed to do the "bans to sell new product" shtick with Phantom Revengers
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What does D/D need in BPRO?
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>>539915893
I hope they save Enneacraft, that deck is really interesting
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>>539914791
Oh noe theyre "randomly hitting Ryzeal for no reason", go fucking hang yourself tranny
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>>539916335
I guess a monster negate is the only thing they are missing
>Zeus Ragnarok negates hand monsters only
>High Caesar only negates specifically effects that Special Summon
>Deus Machinex steals monsters that use effects, but does not actually stop the effect
>Siegfried negates Spells/Traps
Monster effects on the field/GY are surprisingly a difficult thing for them to deal with
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>>539916697
>they should hit the other top decks above Ryzeal and also hit other cancer cards instead of a random targeted singleton hit to Ryzeal that comes across as bafflingly spiteful
>UM GO FUCK YOURSELF
So I'm rather curious as to why you like Bagooska, Maliss, Protos, every single continuous trap floodgate in the format.
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The Magical Musket fan artist.
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>Hmm now that Ourobouros is gone nothing surely will happen to the valuable cards that I hold in my hand, no sireee.
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>remember an argument from days ago but couldn't remember what it was about
>check the archives because the jannies deleted every post in the thread except for the OP
>it was about a retard arguing about how Spirit Dragon was totally equated to Winda, includes the choice quotes of "I didn't argue for X" "Yes, I am completely aware that that is what you are arguing." and when the poster was asked for any sort of quote about it being argued immediately claimed that he didn't make a single post ever
Yeah I can see why I blocked it out, probably the most inane person I had to argue with, I'm fine with a good internet slapfight but that was just literally nothing
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>>539917078
>you "like" all these other things ahkchually if you arent a retarded contrarian defending ouroboros
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>>539919569
>and also not the good decks making the game miserable, and also the other cards the shitty deck can employ to make the game miserable, or a bunch of other cards making the game miserable. If it was like a mass banlist hitting a bunch of random floodgates and handrips it'd be understandable, but this is just randomly hitting Ryzeal for no reason
So again, since you seem anally blasted by me wondering why they didn't also hit the other top decks above Ryzeal, or the other cards being used by Ryzeal to make the game miserable, or a bunch of other cards making the game miserable, why exactly do you like Bagooska, TCBOO, Rivalry, Gozen, Maliss, Harpie's Feather Storm and Protos in the format?
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>>539919324
you could've atleast posted merlanteans instead of a joke archetype
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>>539919324
Umm but have you considered that Silva isn't doing anything but we have to hit Onomat Ryzeal even if it's not doing anything but also it was a preemptive hit against Mitsurugi Ryzeal because it's topping in the TCG with Ouroboros as its wincon but also we can't use the vast majority TCG tops for Mitsurugi Ryzeal that don't use Ouroboros because why would TCG results matter to the OCG format? But also if you argue they should have hit Harpie's Feather Storm and Protos that Mitsurugi Ryzeal also used and also a bunch of unfun cards the top decks in the OCG use you're an Ouroboros defender
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>why exactly do you like Bagooska, TCBOO, Rivalry, Gozen, Maliss, Harpie's Feather Storm and Protos in the format?
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>>539920257
Why are you butthurt over the argument that they should have hit more cancerous cards, including meta-relevant ones, and ones also used by Ryzeal instead of just Ouroboros
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>>539920476
weird how the people who are totally just concerned with "hitting more cancerous cards" somehow find it in their hearts to cry about ouroboros, a literal non hopt looping handloop cancer being banned for specifically being a monster that exists to do nothing except abuse the most braindead and unhealthy mechanic in the entire game
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>>539920664
It's weird you find a vehement interest in defending the lack of hits on unfun cards the decks significantly above Ryzeal can employ, or the lack of hits on unfun cards Ryzeal is still capable of using.
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>>539906998
>>539903883
Reminder that this was how the spazz-out started. "Umm, it doesn't matter if Onomat Ryzeal doesn't top but also we shouldn't hit other similar cancerous cards because uhhhhhhhhhhh"
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Taking away people's cardboard they payed for is the ultimate jew move and should only be done as a last resort. That's why all we should hit Le evil X is retarded and reddit tier.
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Arguing that you just really hate Ouroboros because it's a corrupted version of Trish would probably come across as less retarded and more understandable than half the arguments being made for why Ouroboros and Ouroboros alone specifically and not a bunch of other cards along with it
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>>539922623
Making a game then leaving the game in a shit state to ensure that people's investments aren't in vain is retarded cuck behavior.
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>>539923096
>Master Duel out of fucking nowhere
The worst format warped you.
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>>539923178
Didn't mention Master Duel. You are aware Yugioh is a game too and not just a weird stock market?
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>>539923251
The joke is that Master Duel's design philosophy is wholly based on that practice
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>>539921406
>but also we shouldn't hit other similar cancerous cards because uhhhhhhhhhhh
Did anyone ACTUALLY argue this section?
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>>539922623
you still have the cardboard though
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>>539922623
>Taking away people's cardboard
You have Time Wizard formats and Traditional to keep playing the cards you bought, not to mention they still absolutely own the physical card
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>>539923373
>Master Duel is a variation of the investorcuck bad end future
Konmai is run by speds whenever they are deranged Japanese execs or Jewart and Jerome
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>>539923634
>>539923809
>Just play it at home or these formats that nobody plays bro
Don't even pretend that's a valid option. Once a card is banned or limited it can affect your purchase heavily. Did you buy K9 specifically to play VS or Crystron? Too bad get fucked. Did your deck rely on Moon to access your fiendsmith cards? Too bad get fucked. Did you get RA01 for Baronne or Borrelload? Too bad Jewart has to pretend to hit SE.
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>>539923403
>>539906998
>this guy getting buttmad over the suggestion of mass hitting handrip cards under the same philosophy as hitting all the FTK enablers they did previously given Onomat Ryzeal isn't doing anything
>>539914791
>this post prompting some other retard to get buttmad over the idea of mass hitting degenerate cards, including meta ones, ones being used by Ryzeal, and just other nofun cards in general instead of a random "FUCK RYZEAL AND SPECIFICALLY ONLY RYZEAL FOR NO REASON" hit
It strikes me as two retards getting bafflingly mad at the idea of hitting other degenerate cards to me
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ready to demolish locals today
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Banning Ouroboros wasn't bad, the problem is that there were like 15 way Lock/FTK enabling/Turnskip/Handrip more cancerous cards that should get hit before that
End of discussion
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>>539924827
Yes, not sure why this was such a difficult thing for people to understand
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>>539924827
>Says the guy crying every day about his banned cards.
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no matter how you slice it, less card rippers is always good, regardless if they're meta or not.
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>>539924542
what deck?
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>>539925052
Leave my man Don Zaloog alone.
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>>539925052
Yes, but there are people here bitching about the idea that they should have banned more cardrippers and similar degenerate cards
>>539925035
An endphase omninegate isn't particular toxic, that's literally just a shittier counter trap.
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>>539925035
only one,actually. And I'm gonna laugh at you if you think it's gonna be a problem in 2025
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this trope is hot
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>>539925296
Honest question, why is it always Irene?
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/dng/ LEAGUE ROUND 4

JOIN:
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Here's how this works:
>4 month long tournament, spanning from the 7th of September to the 18th of January (20 rounds), with the Top 4 Finals taking place on the 25th of January
>new participants can join the tournament at any point in time, just sign up on the tournament page
>a single round will be held each week
>BO3 matches and we're using a very basic leaderboard system, match wins and byes net you 2 points, match losses net you 1 point and no shows give you nothing
>2 no shows in a row will result in a disqualification
>matchups will be randomized each week, as allowing new players to join all the time messes with any automated round systems
>The randomized matchups will be announced in the thread each Monday and the matchups can agree on the time and date of the duel during that week
>you are allowed to change decks between rounds
>we will be using the most recent TCG banlist and the PRERELEASE card pool
>300 second turn timers, no reason for a time limit on rounds as it's only 1 round per week
>report scores via DMs

CHALLONGE DMs ARE BACK ONLINE
This means we no longer need to rely on the Discord server, but I'm still keeping it around just in case. Here's the link if anyone new joins:
https://discord.gg/CM8tYGxS3A

The Round 4 Matchups will be announced tomorrow.
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how are you contributing to the #rapeamalissplayer initiative
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>>539924378
>this guy getting buttmad over the suggestion of mass hitting handrip cards
where? quote the words fucking retarded kike
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>>539925460
She hits a LOT of fetish points while being a nun
>tall
>busty
>headband
>genki
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>>539926149
>>539904310
>oh cool, do you plan on hitting on all the handrip cards like you did with the FTK enablers
>>539906998
>this prompting the endless kvetching and pilpuling
Seems pretty cut and dry to me sister, sorry you can't worm yourself with "ERM ACTUALLY I SAID DARK WORLD WAS BADLY DESIGNED MEME TRASH SO PLEASE IGNORE THE FACT I CRIED ABOUT THE IDEA OF MASS HITTING HANDRIP CARDS SINCE TOPS AREN'T A FACTOR WITH ONOMAT RYZEAL IT HAS TO TOP FIRST OR IT DOESN'T COUNT", my schlubby friend.
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>>539926630
>quote the words
>proceeds to not quote anything
so yes, thanks for showing everyone how mentally ill you are
>I CRIED ABOUT THE IDEA OF MASS HITTING HANDRIP CARDS
see>>539926149 my mentally unwell brown "friend"
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can you 2 autists get a room its been fucking hours shut up
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>Eclipse Wyvern
Branded, Dragon Link and Dragon Rulers GAWDS wya?
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>>539927250
Heartwarming, this fag continues to kvetch and weep for a conversation that was basically over so he could pilpul about how he didn't explicitly say he didn't want toxic cards banned, he only cried over any post suggesting other toxic cards be banned alongside Ouroboros and you can't draw any obvious conclusions based on that
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>>539927426
It's better if the 1 autist keeps maze busy, note the lack of diaper and troon posts in the thread while he's been chimping out instead.
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>>539928140
>if you make any remotely anti-Maliss-leaning posts, Maze will be too busy crying to shit up the thread with his usual affairs
At last I truly see
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>>539927495
I would have preferred TCG unban Borreload Savage, but eh
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And what of the Phantom Revenger decks? Are they alright?
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damn we lost another yugituber to better games
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>>539929467
MARUZENSKY MY LOVE
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i only got happy to see this boy unbanned (at least on the ocg) because the structure deck i bought when i got into yugioh back in the day was dragon's collide.
what can this card possibly do in the current year?
im assuming searching dark armed dragon hasnt been relevant since fucking forever right?
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>goblin unlimited, after doing absolutely nothing
they should do mermaid next
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Chaos Dragons SDR...
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>>539929437
They're okay, but rogue at best. Maybe they'll get good after the mainset support.
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So whatever happened to actually printing anime cards?
>Animation Chronicles is gone
>Premium Pack for this year not announced yet, but prints manga cards mainly anyway
>Main Set anime card printings have been gone since PHNI
>Newest anime cards printed were the 10 cards in Slifer Red, but we haven't really gotten word on how frequent those Limited Packs for anime cards are going to be, especially considering it was likely done due to the GX anniversary
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>>539930529
let me guess, you can feel it
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>>539930764
The OCG just hates printing new cards apparently.
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>>539929858
ok grandpa calm down
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Is it really so hard for people to side 6 side cards such that this deck doesn't do anything?
Why do people use their slots for fucking Lunalight and not the latest new deck?
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>>539925534
>The Round 4 Matchups will be announced tomorrow.
Do it today.
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yup right on schedule
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>>539931604
kill yourself kiketuber shill
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>make 1 post shitting on maze
>his buttbuddy instantly starts spamming the thread
I thought you niggas were joking
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>Sees use
>Format suddenly has less link monsters in it
Potentialdragon…
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>>539893442
>wake up
>eclipse wyvern limited
lmao?
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>>539930764
The OCG's at the point they just want to lower the cards they print period
>Tactical-Try Decks actively take up SD releases and have no new cards. New support is on main sets, instead of pre-built decks having new cards + new main set cards in addition like before
>Tactical Try-Packs are similar but they do have new cards, albeit a much lower amount than before and they replaced other side sets
>The new Branded pre-built deck only has 2 new actual cards and the rest is just alt arts
>OCG's generally making more reprint sets than before when they were pretty uncommon previously
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>>539932674
At least this lets me filter all those images so I don't see them ever again.
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>>539933795
Whoever spams them changes the hashes every time. This wont stop them from appearing
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why are the british so mentally ill?
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>>539896269
handloops are good. just make a deck that counters/benegits from that gameplay
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>>539934172
What about every other deck in the game that doesn't benefit from that gameplay?
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>unplayer spic has the most retarded opinion you will ever see in your life
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>>539932861
Literally just had to give him white pants or white shorts and this would have been perfect fanart. Ruined by fetishes.
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>>539890162
what one card combo is there with eclipse wyvern?
>eclipse wyvern into striker dragon into banish chaos armageddon into pass
wow nice 1 card combo lmao
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>$17
>Hasn't done anything
lolicons I swear
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>>539895538
splash deserves to get hit, fuck cyberse
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>>539934217
just make them beat the deck that benefit from getting handlooped
rock, paper, scissors
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>>539935197
sounds more like rock, rock, rock, rock, rock [repeat endlessly], paper, scissors
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>>539934745
She's a serious potential woman.

All she's waiting for is the right deck to bust her like what happened with Bahamut Shark
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>>539893997
Ryzeal had methods of doing a full hand rip with ouroboros.
Meanshile wind-ups rot on the banlist.
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>>539934745
The ygo twitter account posted trouble cunny which probably hyped her up again.
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what did we learn this month?
that's right! that ryzeal is a mistake
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>>539934745
potentialman card
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>>539929892
probably some 1.5/2 card combo dlink/dragon ruler stuff
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>>539935971
>The ygo twitter account
It was the MD one for so it's probably something just for MD.
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>>539911578
You can play it in heraldic ryzeal right now.
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>>539935814
>like what happened with Bahamut Shark
The ZEXAL manga card that's banned.
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>>539936034
Remember when people gaslit themselves into thinking R4NK was powercrept?

It's literally the most busted toolbox in the entire game 11 years after the end of Zexal!
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>>539924542
I just report your field center (or are those tokens? Idk) as homophobic and you get disqualified.
GG, EZ.
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>>539936640
When he first debuted, people thought he was useless since he demanded 2 Level 4s and could only summon useless cards. Once Toadally Awesome came out, he was killed off
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>>539936969
2 WATER Level 4s*.

Also don't forget cards like Mind Hacker or Dimensional Shifter which were jokes on debut but later became busted.
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>>539893442
Why is the OCG shilling dragon link?

Will it actually become meta?
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>>539937957
lol no
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>>539928375
Can't they unban it to sell the SD?
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>>539934745
I love how branded has this kind of card as a three-of. All you need is Ecclesia to get the second effect and of course, her retrain is coming soon.
>>539933562
>>539930764
Branded had six new card prints in the structure deck. And three new Dogmatika cards in the Dood set. Tri-brigade received two cards in particular as support.
It’s a weird circumstance of branded being really amazing in Dogmatika and iffy in the other lore decks.
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is malice still good?
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>>539940945
Only in MD. Its pretty mediocre in the TCG
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>>539941076
so the banlist did harm them
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>>539941305
Youre acting as if they werent mediocre before the new banlist lmao.
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>>539941364
were they before the new banlist?
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>>539941467
yes, Maliss isnt a serious contender. Its Yummy's era now.
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>>539941364
kys downplayer faggot
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>>539941558
Dont blame them too much, shes just shit at the game and has the IQ of a brown person
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>>539941558
Whats wrong with calling them mediocre in the TCG? Theyre overrepresented but get beat out by proper decks like MitsuRyzeal, VSK9 and Yummy. Theyre a powerhouse in MD though but that's not a relevant format to this general.
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>Eclipse wyvern to 1
This probably won't do anything substantial but boy am I excited to see what it does end up being used for.
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>>539941809
>>539941076
why do you mention md, no one gives a fuck (and of course were talking about tcg) but you
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>>539941930
Bystials…
They’re returning.
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>>539942000
>why do you mention MD
Because the question was if the deck was still good and the deck is played in multiple formats. Simply pointing out that theyre relevant in one format but that outside of that one theyre mediocre.
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>>539940945
Good in OCG and MD, bad here
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>>539936758
how is it homophobic though
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>>539942352
>OCG
Isnt Maliss underperforming in the OCG as well?
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>>539942195
no we were talking about tcg obvipusly
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>>539942195
Maliss being mediocre is an outrageous statement.
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for real though what does 1 eclipse do nowadays? get you 1 lubellion search? woow
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>>539942406
Its underperforming in every real format because nobody good wants to touch cyberseshit, except for shart duel where its so laughably overtuned that even retards can just mash buttons and make noises while "winning"
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>>539942695
You could definitely loop it even with 1 copy thanks to Dis Pater and Pisty before linking it off to get more searches,
The question is if that extra ceiling makes Dlink playable again, the answer is no but maybe some other fringe deck gets usage out of it.
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>eclipse wyvern unhit ocg
>splash mage + link decoder banned in tcg
konami is certified revolvergaming, BEGONE CYBERSE
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Will fallen of Albaz become the king of dragons.
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>>539942423
Maliss gives no results. It is mediocre yes. Dracotail is better than Maliss.
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>>539942406
With how many hits it has gotten in the OCG, it's still dangling on.
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>>539942959
Why does Master Duel make you seethe so hard?
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>>539942973
> but maybe some other fringe deck gets usage out of it.
Like Branded?
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>>539943202
Because I'm hard stuck in gold.
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>>539942625
>>539942846
Wait the deck doesnt even get double digits? Why does someone seethe this hard against Maliss? Why not rage against the fucking candy cats?
>VS is on top
Fucking based
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of course maliss is shit because their key cards are either banned or limited while some decks stay untouched; unfair
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>>539943576
Mary Sue is the opposite of based.
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>>539943736
They were shit before the hits bro. Why do you get angry about waifus just meant to be fucked?
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Will the great Aluber be replaced by Ecclesia?
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>>539942973
full gas already shits out seals + double link 5 + dispater/savage, the only thing left to increase the ceiling is gumblar + levi triple handtrip
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>>539943809
lmao they were meta relevant before hit
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>>539943472
Possibly, they can dump and banish it super easily, use it to search out Lightend or something to add to the end board for more ceiling, worst case is still pretty good as a light to dump for Albion since a Lubellion in hand is way better than a Lubellion in the grave.
There's some other whacky stuff you can use like searching for Levianeer for a handrip or eschatos(lol)
The card has a lot of potential but it's also kind of homeless at the moment.

>>539944117
Exactly, it's really cool and you can do some fucked up stuff with it but it's probably fine.
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>>539944117
Ash’d branded has a better board than that.
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https://x.com/MiLB_LUL/status/1969456340721438827
>Azalea Temperance
what?
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Where hosting?
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>>539945926
eu casual
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>>539943736
>let's kill Maliss as a deck and do nothing to bigger problem cards like Nibiru or Lancea
>people will forget how problematic Lancea is until he ruins another format
great decision making konami!
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>>539946123
>how problematic Lancea is
it isn't, mald harder faggot
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Why are people saying that Nibiru is bad now? Dracotail clearly wants to summon 10 times to show everyone their Spoonless-Magistus combo
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Hosting on eu casual
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Konami should retrain this jarring bastard to be something functional.
>Odd-Eyes Saber Dragon requires a LIGHT and Odd-Eyes Dragon to use, something absolutely doable in Yuya's schizo deck
>D/D/D Dragon King Pendragon requires a Dragon which is something absolutely not fucking doable in the all-Fiend deck
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>>539946182
Nibing dracotail is sort of worthless, in all likelihood by the time nib is live they've already set their traps and returned fymena to hand for your turn.
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>to bigger problem cards like Nibiru or Lancea
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>>539946476
>DRAGON King PenDRAGON
>Fiend
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>>539946182
It’s funny how Magistus has an over-the-top combo to make two Omni-negates, and then Superpoly goes “yum” and Branded is like, “I will send a monster from the ED to the GY and blow up something.”
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more maliss support konami thank you
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>>539946628
wait until you see the type for every other d/d
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>>539946780
Where’s your lore?
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>>539946476
>>Odd-Eyes Saber Dragon requires a LIGHT and Odd-Eyes Dragon to use, something absolutely doable in Yuya's schizo deck
You know remember the ARC-V writer's solution to this problem.
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>>539947002
>A UNIQUE AND INTERESTING EFFECT??????????
>NOOOOOOOOOO WE NEED TO CHANGE IT YOU CAN'T JUST DO SOMETHING BRAND NEW LIKE THAT
I genuinely hate the OCG
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>>539946884
catterpillar? jabberwocky?
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>>539946182
>Why are people saying that Nibiru is bad now
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Branded will probably have so much support that their side-deck will actually feature their own cards.
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Hosting EU casual.
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>>539942406
It was tying with Dracotail as 4th best deck
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>>539947443
Are there still cards to reveal?
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>>539947492
forgot to add, /dng/. It's up now.
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>>539947326
>Show your true self, wolf guy. Will mate with you.
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>>539947326
Ripper is so based that shed even be busted in Zexal format since she can stop Veiler/Roach and block Dragon Rulers
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>>539947139
ARC-V has a fucking ton of them across the anime and manga.
The one that gets me is the absolute travesty that is All-Eyes Phantom Dragon
>Manga version skipped to your next Battle Phase if its attack got negated
>Manga version gains 1000 ATK for each Tributed monster for its summon and decreases the opponent's ATK by the same amount
>Manga version could send Pendulum Cards as well as regular Spells/Traps to do the negate, and also forced a Set of the card (including shutting down Pendulum Scales by Setting a Pendulum Card in said scale)
Meanwhile the printed version uhhhhhhhh
>no turnskip effect
>doubles its ATK on attack, does not lower the opponent's
>Spell/Trap negate effect requires you to send a Spell/Trap to the GY for cost so you can't send Pendulums
Not to mention going from G.O.D.-Eyes Phantom Dragon to All-Eyes Phantom Dragon, just a fucking travesty
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>>539947443
I did that occasionally with some of the bricks like Etude and Light.
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>>539944117
>>539944262
wait i'm dumb technically quad/5x handrip
>gumblar and or levi on your turn
>draw phase borrelend target monster (mostly seals) summon rokket to zone handrip 2x again
>bonus points if you have ip as well so you can ip into sp their last card
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>>539946123
>how problematic Lancea is
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>>539947672
I guess I'll play shadowverse instead...
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Is Accesscode worth it if I can't fit in a Link-3? Should I move over to Underworld Goddess in that case?
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Lancea is a stupid card that probably shouldn't exist but it's also not a problem.
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>>539943576
>>539943809
Go look at /v/, or twitter or Japanese twitter's response to Maliss, or any discussion board and you'll quickly find that nobody likes playing against Maliss, nobody wants to keep 3 Lanceas in the side (or the main in MD) solely for a singleton annoying ass combo deck and would prefer if it forcibly left the format so people could drop the Lancea
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>>539947567
There’s a Springangs episode coming out with banished Ecclesia, Albaz, and Kitt.
They timed the support around the anime releases.
“The fallen and the virtuous” was released on the same day as the latest anime episode.
Aka. Anime episodes were timed around when they are trying to shill something. So after Branded, they will shill the Aleister mids for three episodes.
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>>539948881
>So after Branded, they will shill the Aleister mids for three episodes.
We know it's Charmers after Branded.
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https://x.com/goukenevent/status/1969743063720603744
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>>539949825
>tranny dressed as Raye
lmaooooo
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>>539949927
That might just be a Japanese girl, asians are very androgynous and homely.
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>>539949825
>The Martha cosplayer is actually that one artist that draws a lot of fairy Lee.
Uh, based or cringe?
https://x.com/patrulea4444/status/1969597531878539274
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/75311873
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>>539946123
yes i want cyberse.deck forcefully removed from the game
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So why hasn't Sorafag posted his Ze Amin cosplay?
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You guys literally don't get it. Maliss got hit too early.
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>>539951172
You're trying way too hard man.
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>>539951493
>samefags anti-Maliss posts, even though everyone outside this general agrees the deck got hit too hard too early
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>>539951717
>even though everyone outside this general agrees the deck got hit too hard too early
see >>539948313
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>>539951717
kill yourself mentally ill tranny
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seriously how assblasted do you need to be to constantly play both sides to talk about a deck that gets fucked by all other actual meta decks?
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>>539954228
>deck that gets fucked by all other actual meta decks?
In the OCG metagame, it fought Dracotail for the slot of fourth best deck. Now VSK9, Dracotail, and Yummy are all hit and one of its unhit peers is Lunalight, a deck that outputs 1-2 3800 ATK Towers with quick effect Raigeki...that Maliss can casually output >3800 ATK monsters multiple times, has ways of stopping destruction upon linked monsters, and doesn't care about their Bagooska cope, and Striker, which to be fair idk that much about the Striker vs Maliss matchup but Maliss is pretty obviously looking like a top 3 competitor below Striker and Yummy
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>>539954751
Its still gonna stay shit. Maliss is garbage and the fact that its a single digit percentage in the OCG now will make sure it dies off.
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TCG should have limited Ketu Dracotail too
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>>539955156
Why would it die off when it was consistently fighting for the 3rd-4th best deck spot and all 3 JUSH decks got hit on the banlist meaning all it has to concern itself with is the hit Yummy, Striker, and the Lunalight it casually outs the endboard for.
You made this post last OCG banlist and it didn't even remotely come true
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>>539894647
I thought ours was pretty lackluster. And then these Japs decided to nuke Dracotail in a format where it's 4th-5th best deck and ban a card Ryzeal was using 9 months ago there.
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It feels like /dng/ is like, where all the inane Malissfags congregated to as their final stand so we get just absolutely batshit insane sentiments you'd read nowhere else
>>539955923
I think our list could have been fine if we hit Yummy a little harder, feels like it's pretty definitively best deck status.
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>>539955590
>July 2025
Here have the updated one >>539942625. The deck dropped from 10% to 6.9%
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>>539949825
>Number 15 in the back
extremely based
>the diaper (canon) Marshmao alt bodysuit bro
lmfao
>TCBOO vacationing skull servant
kek
>musclecop K9 from the concept art
I'm laughing too hard at some of these, great group. What monster is the green haired one between Laundry and Gagaga Girl?
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>>539949825
>diaper yummy
lmao isnt Sorafag playing Yummy?
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>>539956193
Cool, now tell me what decks just got hit on the banlist.
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>>539956335
>'m laughing too hard at some of these, great group. What monster is the green haired one between Laundry and Gagaga Girl?
It's Ween. The blue haired girl is Sweet Lil-la.
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>>539956232
>single omninegate
why is he banned again?
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OCG should make a Dominus card that negates an entire chain of grave effects to solve the upcoming Mitsu problem.
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>>539956673
KoA doesn't like generic omninegates, hell, they don't even like giving turn 1 monster negates for their tcg exclusives to beat nib and shit.
>>539956681
haha no jesus christ
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>>539956189
I wish they switched the VS hits around, it needed to get kicked in the dick but got slapped way too hard. Sue is objectively the problem and they seemed to take every step besides hitting her because it's new. Obedience ban + Snatchy semi is based, but over here just an Obedience limit was ok, we haven't had them 2 months yet. IMO even when a deck hits an objective best deck position, it's ok for the game to have that for a good 3+ month chunk of the year, as long as it's not T0 96% pi chart rep material. tldr hitting JUSH decks too hard when JUSH is the newest set is ridiculous, especially when old decks aren't getting their hits undone.
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>evilswarm ouroboros
....who???
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>>539956612
ty, and my mistake. Last public appearance of Razen too, before the 9/21 incident.
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>>539956840
It feels like either Arc Light should have been banned or Snatchy gets limited, doing this wishy washy Arc Light limit and maybe a Snatchy semilimit feels barely impactful compared to the VSK9 hits.
Dracotail getting hit is lmao tier, I think the OCG gives 0 shits about whether or not a deck is healthy for the metagame, no one here is wringing blood for Dracotail because like, who cares, the deck's power comes more from le Fymena and more in how it does going second than its set up combos going first. I mean I guess in their clown format they get to loop Maxx C meanwhile in here they don't put the opponent under a permanent Maxx C so its fine
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>>539957134
For the sins of Onomat Ryzeal, and uh apparently the theoretical sins of Mitsu Ryzeal, because apparently the OCG suddenly had a change of heart and decided that they have to preemptively hit cancer after years of basically forcing its playerbase to deal with it for 2 formats, and in the mean time they forgot to hit a bunch of other decks lol
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>not once per turn
gentlemen...
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>>539957652
Atlanteans can loop this 2-3 times and it's actually part of their 1 card combo to handloop 6
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>Astrograph
>2

What?
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the big 3
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>>539955923
Nigga take. Dracotail is only a jobber because of VSK9. The deck deserves to be hit
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>>539957327
Arc light limit if you ask me is them realizing they've made way too many Ritual strategies dependent on the card (Diviner, Nadir, etc.) and don't feel like they're able to ban it. They absolutely should've, just make a new version of its GY eff somewhere else, it's somehow the most fair line of text on that fucking card.
>Dracotail (average unexciting but decent deck) giga-hit because it can put you in a Maxx "C" loop
idk why that didn't occur to me earlier, that faggot card is always the explanation for awful OCG decisions (oh hey speaking of, Spright Jet is finally back). I do feel their pain when I get my Fuwaros Ashed and they pick it back up with Arthalion, but that's the deck's highlight, being Monster Mash HT pile that can regain access to spent ones.

To me hitting Dracotail is the equivalent of hitting pic related because "Imperm/Purge/Songs/Spiral can trigger it"
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Crossover Breakers, one of the strongest Deck Build Packs of all time, featuring two dominant meta strategies upon its release, and also Ryu-Ge.
Justice Hunters, one of the strongest Deck Build Packs of all time, featuring three dominant meta strategies that all at one point vied for the spot of best deck in the format.
Phantom Revengers, one of the weakest Deck Build Packs of all time, featuring no meta strategies upon its release, and tying with the many many early garbage Deck Build Packs they used to print that just did absolutely nothing.
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>>539956840
>i-its too new!! even if its badly designed and clearly oppressive i paid for it so i d-deserve to win with it for at least 3 months!!
kill yourself nigger, you're exactly why this game is on it's deathbed
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>>539958360
Also, did you know that every Deck Build Pack ends in either -ors or -ers with the sole exception of Ancient Guardians
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>>539957327
>doing this wishy washy Arc Light limit and maybe a Snatchy semilimit feels barely impactful
both of those are massive especially with an obedience school ban, not being able to acel synchro into a new arc light when the first gets outed/spent and your engine being way more fragile and prone to running out of gas sooner is a giant factor for both power and the grindgame
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>>539958360
Phantom Revengers is a correction of the past sets just like Artmage fixing the power creep of Diabellestar.
Both of these are a better direction, the past decks just need to get banned.
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>>539958829
>now it only makes ONE omninegate
>now it can still just shuffle back the Link 1s with the field spell
Yeah that's not really anything
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>>539958204
>They absolutely should've
shut up tranny



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