Hah. El Piss.Last Thread: >>539728707
BL3 was better
>>539937991I miss jackjust put his voice in a gun again
BL3 is the worst entry in the seriesThe objective ruling isBL2 > TPS > BL1 > Power Gap > BL4 > BL3
im too broke to upgrade my PC so im stuck with BL3 for the next few months. how is the story compared to BL3 from a gameplay point? did they learn that having a random requirement to walk up to a character who youre already in conversation with to talk before you can move on is stupid? also is the pacing any better?
w-what did she mean by that and how did she open a red rift bros......
>>539939527Generally yeahHad ~2 cases where I was like "oh I'm waiting here now OK" by the ~90% mark, which is significantly better than BL3.
any of you know if Rafa's "Confetti" passive that applies "current weapon" element damage to ordnances works with the Rainbow Vomit shotgun?
>>539941808Rainbow vomit is considered a kinetic weapon.
>>539939527BL4 has three moments (for me) in the main story that came close to the bullshit that existed in the majority of the BL3 quests but that's it.In general it's much better paced on a mission by mission basis.
>>539942435ah yeah thats kind of what i figured, thanks m80
Somebody on this board told me that the entire game levels with you and if you encounter enemies above your level, they'll always be above your level, so I've been trying to power through but this shit sucks. I'm getting my shit pushed in. Can anyone confirm that the best way forward isn't to go grind a few levels and come back to the campaign?
>>539943215You were advised correctly. The game checks your level and always has enemies below or above your level depending on how "difficult" they're supposed to be. With the final missions of the game typically overlevelling you by 3-4 levels even if you you're at 50.However, player power scales much better than enemy power via levels. They don't really get anything new at all. They're just slightly tankier and get slightly pointier sticks while you get access to tons of shit including unlocking much better options for loot past level 25.A level 20 VH vs a level 23 enemy is comparatively more difficult than a level 30 VH vs a level 33 enemy.
have you come all this way just to die?
>>539943583That's really helpful; thanks
>>539943583>>539943215This is half correct. The game still has a soft "minimum level" for some areas, and if you go there you will always be slightly under levelled until you're in the right level range.This was very noticeable in the run where I skipped all side content.
>>539938082Wonderlands was better
>>539939527What kind of machine do you have? I'm running the game on an old ass midrange PC that is below minimum specs l for the game. The game looks ass, but it's running with FSR. Or what ever it's called.
>try to do side quests to get my last 2 levels before 50>every single fucking quest has 5 minutes of unskippable dialogue that is painfully unfunnywhy
I was inside a mine area on the way to the black market machine and a world boss bubble spawned. Ended up being that guy that makes clones from the order bunker (that I had just killed in the bunker not 30 minutes before for the first time). This has been making bleed vex really nice on bosses with witchytime.
>>539949040im not sure what you are trying to say. did you get that from the black market or did it drop from the guy you mentioned?
>>539949771Dropped from the world boss, I was there to hit the black market machine (which was shit) so at least I got something out of the trip.
Do you prefer Borderlands builds to be based more around your gear or your skill tree setup? For reference, I'd say BL2 leans towards the former, where by the higher OP levels, you really needed to use specific gear setups to progress through. Whereas as BL3 is more the latter, where as long as your skill tree build is very focused, generally any gear that fits that build can be used. E.g if my skill tree is built towards enchancing splash damage, most any splash damage weapon can be used with it.
>>539951841I prefer when they have absolutely zero melee builds in a fucking looter shooter.
what did randy mean by this
>>539951841It needs to be a bit of both, but I also hate when the skill tree gets hyper specific and shoehorns you into only using certain gear.
What do I have to look forward to once I get to the endgame?
>>539951841The latter. Though a balance between the two is ideal
Can someone please reassure me that Amon gets fun at higher levels...
>>539955005
>haven't found a useable class mod in 15 levelsabsolutely unreal
how long until a website goes up that shoes us loot and the potential rolls and ranges for it comes up bros.....
>>539955005We can only hope there will be a dlc with another white man, but I would not get my hopes up
>>539955967please
>>539956687
Why the fuck is my Action Skill suddenly gaining 10 extra seconds of Cooldown as Rafa?It started happening after I specced into the skill that grants extra action skill cooldown each time you reloadIs the skill bugged?
I just use whatever character I think is coolIf they're bad I just don't caresimple as
>>539957221What if I don't think any of the characters are cool? What if the only character, across all of fiction, that I think is cool is Amélie, from the film Amelie (2001)?
>tfw SDUs take hours to max out
any farms for vladof equipment yet?
>>539957575>24 sniper ammo at level 30
>>539957221>love a character >the skill tree you like is unviable in higher levels
>>539959162Yeah I use trouble too>>539957508>What if I don't think any of the characters are cool?Expand your horizons
>>539957214Yeah I'm noticing the same thing vyr with the cd recovery on grenade mod
Just finished all 3 regions and I can't shake the idea that carcadia burns feels like the least important region plot-wise. Granted I did it last and I guess it would have some foreshadowing, but it was for plot points that terminus range would outright show. Like as much story as you get from the desert I don't think it matches up to the fadefields' intro starter area relevance or the various revelations in terminus range like the crashed sanctuary, lilith being alive and on kairos, Arjay being alive and nuts, and the phase being an actual dimension
>>539957508>What if the only character, across all of fiction, that I think is cool is Amélie, from the film Amelie (2001)for me, its Jared from Silicon Valley
On these enhancements, due the weapon bonuses at the bottom of the card effect all guns or just the specific manufacturer mentioned above?
>>539960210>carcadia burns feels like the least important region plot-wise.That might be why it had the best quests, writing and vibe out of any area.
>>539960285all guns, friendo!
So I found the legendary enhancement for torgue and maliwan. Running on the assumption that there's one for every major brand, whats the other ones look like? Specifically looking for jakobs
>>539960601I have the jakobs one, I think it gives like 40% chance to have any shot ricochet, instead of just criticals
>>5399466131030 and an i5 3470 that was slapped together because was just about all i could afford with college aid back during covid. it surprisingly runs BL3 pretty well (admittedly on lowest settings) but looking at the BL4 requirements im not even gonna try until ive finished my new build lol.
>>539947792You're probably already level 50 but if you ever start leveling other characters, spam bounty contracts and fast travel between safehouses/faction towns to keep getting more bounty contracts. Always prioritize vile bounties for the chance at getting a legendary from the completion reward
>>539961158Good to know, is there more to it? The ones I found are below and they both have 2 special effects>Maliwan Legendary(lvl 17) - Maliwan guns have +25% status effect damage and on kill spread active effects on target to 3 other targets. [Generic stats: Gun damage, Gun mag size]>Torgue legendary(Lvl 40) - Sticky mags deal 50% of gun damage on impact and on kill 50% chance to call down a missile barrage on an enemy. [Sniper fire rate, Gun accuracy]
>>539961784I think I vendor'd mine so i cant look, but I think it gave the +15% crit damage per crit/5 stacks plus the 40% ricochet chance.
>>539960601They're probably fully random, there's 4 effects per manufacturer and they're not unique to the legendaries.
>>539961994Fair enough, good to get an idea of it thanks>>539962592You know what that actually makes sense, in that case would that mean that a legendary enchantment is just one that has two of the brand unique effects?
I'm playing bleed vex and I love assault rifles. Are there any good legendary rifles that are good for this? I have a couple cool elemental ones and one that I like the look of but the helix shit is obnoxious
>>539964860The Goalkeeper is pretty nuts. its an Order weapon that full charges in like half a second and my level 46 one does like 1600 damage per shot and like 9k dps
>>539965110oh and it has a permanent bullet shield affixed to the front that you dont need to ADS for like other hyperion guns, and when it breaks you do 50% more damage for like 8 seconds.
>>539964860gmr is comfy
>>539964860Lumberjack was pretty cool. Projectiles are saw blades that'll bounce around, and I'm pretty sure they apply a kinetic DoT as well. Should play pretty nicely with Vex's bleed stuff.
has anyone seen a Super Soldier shield with the Amp roll on it? been farming for a while and haven't seen it
>>539965110>>539965397>>539965416Thanks, gunna go start farming
neat
i hate tediore guns so god damn much
>>539966428i feel the same way about every gun that isn't an Order or Jakobs weapon
>>539937991BASED TOPDOGG1971EXACTLY HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS FUCKING WHITE NIGGER RANDY PITCHFORD FOR KILLING MAYA
To be impactful, Arjay should have been a returning character, instead. Maybe Ava?
>>539966725Considering they want to play time shenanigans and his bussy was pumped with enough eridium to let him utilize phase abilities it probably won't be the last we see of him, Hopefully Ava never comes back
>>539966725>Ava>annoying insufferable cunt kid whose only purpose is to get maya killed so she can go through a contrived arc and be the "next generation" (an extremely played out and gay, boring trope no one likes but whatever)>doesn't even come backummm pitchford? yeah I'm thinking someone should PITCHFORK you, PITCHFORDpitchfork you in the chest
>>539966679>TOPDOGG1971>Randy Pitchford, born April 21, 1971
>>539967296>>539967310Consider this:>I hate Ava>you hate Ava>everyone and their gay lover hates Ava>boot up 4>first character you encounter is Ava>awshitherewegoagain.avi>30 seconds later, she's deadThen she comes back as a crazy villain or whatever but I mean that's basically a different character altogether.
Is this the worst villain so far?
>>539969002BL3 schizo post
>>539969002I thought he was alright, just a generic evilguy
>>539969002I haven't played. What's his motivation?
>>539969324You know time? He keeps it.
>>539969324Preventing the end of the universe or something
>>539969324Achieving perfect society to prevent the great war. He's not the villain, Lilith is. Fucking cunt I hate her so much.
>>539969324He's a Vault Monster. The game is honestly still very vague on what his motivation is besides wanting to put everyone under his control. My interpretation is that he's very bitter over the fact that, due to him being Vault Monster that's either confined or forced to protect the vault, his entire life purpose is to follow an "order". So he wants to put everyone else under his own "order".
>make it to Mudmouth>everything is ~2 levels higher than me, guns picked up >5 levels ago>get shit pushed in>grind, come back after getting 2 levels>Mudmouth increased by 3 levelsrandy what the fuck
You cutie idiot. Chart a course up your own ass
>>539973596his wife did it on xbox it's buttery smooth.
>>539970000I love her but I can't argue with those digits wowee do widle bangalang ten second spitballs
What did they mean by this?
>>539972043He was put in charge of preventing the end of the universe and he has OCD and is obsessed with order(see triangles) so he came up with a perfect plan that required a perfect utopia only achievable by taking control of everyone. Humans however don't like being controlled and like stated in the game disorder always wins. We are the badies until lilith unfucks it
>>539975116There making fun of you
random drop from some randy
Haven't seen this sub stat before, is it useful?
Is this game harder than previous borderlands in the first few hours? Can't tell if I just got bad loot, the game is more difficult, or if I'm just washed up because holy fuck I'm dying a lot
>get amon and rafa legendary coms >nothing decent for my vh alts are set though lol
>>539976245It's easier I think
>>539966428>tfw downed yourself with reload during a boss
>>539976245Yeah the damage from enemies seems tuned up due to the inclusion of repkits. It's likely your shield is outleveled by enemy damage as well since you're constantly leveling up during the story without pausing and target farming another one.
>>539966725>Ava shows up>Arjay's knife erupts from her chest >"Long time no see, friend."
>WAR IS COMING DON'T YOU FEEL IT?!No, Qan-- er, Lilith. I don't feel it. When is this war?
Just finished doing UVH5 and Ordnance Amon is so brokenly overpowered it's almost unfun. There were so many retards proclaiming him shit at like lvl 10 on launch day.
>>539966725They really thought they cooked with Arjay
>>539976958What you need to understand is that "he's shit" is relative
>>539966428I fucking love Tediore. Mechanically and thematically. Their assault rifles and pistols are pretty solid and I'm aways excited when I find one. I mean I'm not UVHM 73 where the only viable weapon is the Jakobs with the legendary MemeHurricaine mod, but still solid.I love Tediore so much that when I saw the skin I had to look it up to unlock it and have been using it since. Love Tediore. I'd get a tattoo. If I had tattoos. Maybe. I doubt it but maybe.
>>539966428I actually like Tediore guns in this one, but I've downed myself like >>539976797 or just from reflexively reloading when my mag's low.
>>539977687the shoot to do bonus damage or whatever is only for coop i guess? you either direct hit it on the enemy or it goes bouncing everywhere
>>539976943...War is always coming but it never arrives... and when it does arrive... it's never that bad... you never see them invade they're always occupying... no one ever dies except in cutscenes... war's always coming but it never arrives...
>>539969002He's not annoying to listen to so that's a point in his favor. But he's otherwise C Tier at best. I'll take him any day over having to listen to the twins.
am i supposed to make it to UVH5 and end up with only 2 respecs worth of eridium or is something fucked
>>539976245Get to like level 12 then just go back and farm Splashzone. You should get good enough loot to carry you for several levels. You dont even really need his legendaries to drop, he just naturally dropped good blues and purples for every slot if you farm him enough.
>>539938238They should make an Orange with Jack's voice.
>>539978835I think that's normal, the specialization respec is kinda expensive. I only had enough to do it once.
>>539977114>>539966725who the fuck is arjay...he's some fucking PAJEET who goes from gay lame guy to gay lame bad guy boss?no one likes or wants pajeets or takes them seriously, sorry gearbox
>>539966725>MRW he's introduced>MRW he dies>MRW he reappears
Just finished BL4. My feelings on the story were lukewarm until the latter half, at which point it became so stupid.Bringing back Arjay as a villain was moronic. Just leave him dead as a cool guy martyr who saved you, why retroactively ruin him by turning him into this psycho who hates everyone for no fucking reason? Not to mention, why the fuck would they even bother with doing all that to this random nobody even if he did somehow survive the intro? Absolutely inane.Then the Timekeeper destroys your ECHO in Dominion City, and Zadra (the person who literally designed the bolts) teleports you right to her base and is like "Wow your ECHO that was jamming your bolt got destroyed, that's wild huh? Anyway, here's a gun Mr. Glowing Eyes Vault Hunter that's acting weird, I sure hope you don't shoot me with thi- OH MY GOD HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN". It's so retarded it's beyond parody. I'm not even gonna touch on how the Timekeeper suddenly takes control over everyone on the planet like it's fucking nothing, sure would've been convenient if he could do that earlier huh.And then they finish it off with yet even more Lilith wank and set her up to be a major character yet fucking again in BL5, because god fucking forbid we have one singular fucking game where she isn't a central figure.The literal only interesting thing in this game was the TK being a Vault Guardian. Everything else was average at best and retarded at worst. Fire these fucking writers already.
>>539976245I didn't really die a lot early unless I happened to run into a pack of badasses. I remember getting jumped a couple times by groups of three or six badasses and they wrecked my shit. One way I got better gear was to do contracts from the bounty boards. I got some good stuff that way and a bunch of experience.
>>539979408They basically are just introducing the Phase as a borderlands version of the Warp. I'm sure we'll have chaos gods and demons soon.
>>539979408Gearbox seems to like taking these literal who characters and expecting you to give a fuck about them. They did it in BL3 with the twins' dad.
>>539977942I wish it would and spare no one and we had to start all over anew
>>539979408It made no sense that your character even needed to ask for a gun. It's not like you lose them when fast traveling, and you have them all as soon as you regain control.
are there any single shot jakobs shotguns that are legendaries? I have yet to find a single fucking legendary that would even remotely help my fucking build and I've found 200+ legendaries.
>>539980201Hot slugger
Borderlands 3 is THE best borderlands game, and I'm tired of hearing the opposite.
>>539967310As far as I know, this is one of the only mentions of Ava in the game
>>539980201Hellwalker might count? It's got a mag of 2 but you fire each of them with one trigger pull.
Why are class mods giving skills in different skill trees? Can both be active?
>>539980201hot slugger is one of the best legendaries in the game
>>539980267>>539980556>>539980673bless you anons
>>539980375One mention too many. Moving forward with Operation Houdini.
>>539980375Bet they cut everything out once they realised how much that abominable character is hated. The only good outcome I can think of would be to blow Ava up right next to the moment we hear of her again.
Which one?
gawd damn
>fortified weekwhat the fuck is up with the unfun mechanics being the main shtick for weekly missions holy fuck
>>539981979Just wait for Necrotic Bursting week
>>539980645Yes, the class mod skills are active even if you haven't put points into those trees
Why does this game refuse to save my graphics settings?
>>539981979>do first mission to unlock uvhm >every enemies dies and makes a nova>rippers that rush you
oh boy, its caustic week!
>>539981524okay but do they also understand that I will never play, pay for, not even pirate another borderlands game because those subhuman niggers killed Mayaand I was literally going to buy BL3 the night it launched after some deliberation, but then was saved from doing so when I saw her death 3 hours into the game on a twitch stream
>>539981979>destroy the fortification thing>still immuneepic
>>539982086heh
LET'S GET CRAZYAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>539980201there is a jakobs bolt-action legendary called Truck, no idea what its effect does though
>>539982546You have to crit them my guy. Equip a fast shooting accurate weapon and go for the crit spots. Crit equals instant kill.
>>539982659It seems to just have extremely high crit damage. There might be more, though, I don't know
>>539982113So is this skill active right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO7jKIVk8Zo
>>539983175I was told no, but i have one from my class mod in a tree i dont even use and its definitely giving me the skill
>>539983236I did not attach my image
what is your boss loot item of choice
>>539983473what do you mean?Cindershelly is pretty GOAT'd
>>539983761I know what kind of man you are.
>>539983843it's genuinely the only thing that has gotten a chuckle out of me in this entire game.
is there an easy way to tell what area of the map you are missing for the achievement?
>>539983761>Cindershelly
how do i get up there
>>539982118Welcome to Borderlands
>>539984665rocket jumping
what does "loot quality increased" even mean? do things just roll better? like do good lines like gun damage get weighted more and do nodes have more chances of being 5s or something
>>539985252Knowing gearbox an increase of 0.2% is still an increase!
This whole "shit for your class or weapons never dropping" bullshit is starting to get real fucking old. killed vile lictor almost 100 times now and I've got every legendary he drops except the one fucking thing I need for my class.I have yet to have him drop a single item that could be used by my class or to improve my guns.
>>539985252its lookin better i think, nodes are rolling higher and lines are lookin better?
Terminus Range>Aids to explore>Not interesting>Not nice to look at>Awful story>Lictor has no personality and is Callis 2.0 with the experimentation >Awful fight with a bunch of invincibilities, long phases and slow moving attacks
I wish they would bring in shadowtrap so you bitches could feel what real suffering was like instead of whining about your fucking coma like a bunch of bitches
>enjoying the reduction of yap sessions in BL4>first contact with lilith is several minutes of the void capped off with some classic BL3 style "stand here and watch this character talk"fucking STOP ITI JUST WANT TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES, RANDY
this dark souls side quest is pretty funny
Is there a way to stunlock Bio-Thresher Omega so it doesn't burrow and hide during its immunity phase
>>539988585Threshers are proper fucked. I've had one pop up and go back down faster than I could charge a ripper mag. You can keep them from burrowing by staying in melee but that can get fucky real quick.
>>539988773Maybe I can taunt it with my pink tiger to keep it occupied in melee range, I'll try it out
>>539988585There is a stagger mechanicI'm not sure how it works but sometimes I manage to stagger a boss if I do high amount of dps
My final verdict is that the mechanics in Destiny shit all over the simple bullshit this game has to offer. Comparing a mission like Outbreak Perfected and dozens of different mechanics to "carry this item but you can't grapple or mantle" repeated about 1000 times isn't very fun. Obviously Borderlands has its own unique strengths compared to Destiny but they aren't meeting the standards set when Destiny eclipsed this game.
>>539989476Okay? Nobody asked about Destiny. It's irrelevant and in a different genre.
>>539989538Are you mentally disabled?
>>539988963Seems like that particular boss' AI doesn't have it. It's just annoying when it stays underground for 20+ seconds like it despawned, then it reappears again and only stays above ground for a few seconds before hiding again.
>>539989476>simple bullshit this game has to offerIt has a good foundation, but they don't care about complicated mechanics. Even the bosses feel simple, why would you even care about their basic mechanics when you can one shot everything anyway? I thought this was one of the things they were trying to fix but it looks like they have a long way to go. >>539989643Ignore him. This freak spends hours having a fit when anyone criticises this game. Pretty sure it's some obsessed freak who is attached to Borderlands 3, or one of the various devs
>>539988585if its one of the threshers that melees you you can stand just outside of its melee range to avoid the hit and have it get stuck in the melee animation, if its the vortex one then you just gotta suffer
>>539981809Both seems niceBut the field scientist is very good if you can entangle consistently
why aren't my FUCKING item icons loading in the bank
>mob slowly shuffles faster than your cursor
>>539990498Gearbox can't code UI.Each weapon has to load into the UI individually, rendering its entire 3D model, with textures, etc. in an unoptimized game that can't even sequence or prioritize the loading correctly. If they weren't completely retarded, they'd just render a literal screenshot ONCE the first time you look at the weapon card and then lock that in, but no. Because of the way the UI has been coded all the way back in BL1, everything has to be expensively loaded one by one.If your bank is 400+ items, you must now individually render each one.Try sorting your weapons by DPS before it's finished loading, btw! It doesn't work! The UI flickers and spazzes out :^)
>>539991004nobody cares about this. you could just leave and stop playing the game but you will keep whining like a child.
>>539991265>nobody cares about this.Someone literally just asked, Randy. Go back to Twitter, nobody wants you here.
where's Fl4k and Moze......
>>539991582If BL3's writing is anything to go by, they're saving Moze to have a sick 20 minute unskippable live "cutscene" where she kills the boss like an absolute BAD-ASS while you sit in your cuck chair watching her, just so they can kill her off while FL4K corrects your pronouns
hear me out, Lev as the next playable vault hunter
Has Borderlands always had random weather?
>>539991864actually now that i think about it there's a non-zero chance of it being Rose too
>>539992494No one cares about your fanfic you rizzless unfuckable incel
>>539992147nope its a first with bl4
>>539992867Thought my mind was playing tricks on me I was like "Huh is this the first time I am seeing rain in borderlands?"
>>539992810You should try crying about it in 4chan
>>539993164You should try having sex instead of fantasizing about random characters no one knows
>>539989476Destiny also has worse quests and voring fucking slog grinds every season ad infinitum. Remember Saint-14? Probably not you fucking newqueer, but here's some background: hyper-glazed lore character, big ingame actual appearance is teased, and when it finally happens? It's ANOTHER reskinned horde mode mission. Lazy piece of shit game, the effort that goes into that game outside of its core combat programming is fucking ZERO
>>539989476fallout 76 is a better destiny than destiny is
>>539993234play the game
>>539993571There's so little to do in endgame that we have incels like you fantasising about their waifus being the next DLC kek
>>539993664who do you think its gonna be
>>539993831Not Rose (whoever that may be)
>>539992810>virgin as insult on 4chanfailed normalfag
>>539993862did you not play any of the bl3 dlcs?
>>539993916That game had DLCs?
>>539994009yeah
>>539994061Wow, looks like no one played it. Must have sold like shit too. You really enjoyed that?
>>539993234Crying this hard on 4chan lmao
>>539994204i mean im asking you if you played the dlc's since it seems you're unaware of the character im talking about
>>539994204Those dlcs were awesome and you're just a seething newfag that got called out. Bitch
>>539994257Most people who played 2 and are playing 4 right now don't know who that is. Not many people even played the base game of 3
>>539994338And you know this how? You don't. You're just a stupid little bitch
>>539994307>>539993891>>539994213No one likes Borderlands 3 and no one will ever have sex with you. Don't shoot the messenger
>>539994463I got 4 kids and 5 grandkids and you're just an impotent faggot posting no-nothing takes on 4chan. Cry about it more, you sniveling little bitch
>>539994338That doesn't sound right, BL3 sold extremely wellhttps://ir.take2games.com/static-files/e8841ad4-15c4-4572-b4c4-0df5548df6ba
>>539994445No one played the DLCs, you can look at the steam numbers. Most of the sales of Bl3 were people paying 5 dollars for every piece of content, trying it out and turning that piece of trash off. Feel free to go back to that while we're playing Borderlands 4. When we're bored we'll go back to another game or Borderlands 1/2 like we always do kek
>>539994528Fuck your grandkids you old dumb chud.
What's a good corrosive weapon to target farm? I'm thinking darkbeast but let me know if there's something better out there. I found onslaught SMGs before that rolled corrosive but I don't like the ramp up too much to use it as a main.
It's the same in every /vg/ thread nowadays. Normal people who want to talk about the game, getting drowned out by autistic retards who want every game to be a 24/7 job simulator live service MMO skinner box grindfest.>Oh, it doesn't have literally infinite endless grind to get pointless arbitrary rewards? GarbageI can understand why you people think Borderlands is made for you, but it isn't. It never has been. It's got the superficial elements of crack, but it isn't crack. And that's a good thing.
>>539994702Lmao boohoo bitch
>>539995221You're either telling the truth or one of those incels upset I called him a virgin. Either way you have nothing going on
>>539995218Keep reddit spacing ya seething homo
>>539995218somehow the /v/ thread is better
>>539991004I noticed that my framerate significantly improves in FFYL, their UI is causing some performance issues.
>>539937991Starting to think only borderlands 2 was good
>>539995779Me too. Maybe they can fix the blank inventory, or the framerate, or the endgame, or levelling new characters, or the glitches, or...
The SDU grind was easily the worst grind in-game so far. Shame they locked the best Vex head behind it,
>>539996278I'm doing it now to get the Yabai Head and I really hope they change it so your new characters get the SDU upgrades. I don't want to do this again.
>>539996278>best vex head>the weebiest oneYou get what you deserve
>>539996347Tell me how I've done every single activity and still don't have enough SDU to max everything?
>>539997331because you need to do collectibles too, you have to fully clear all of terminus range, fadefields, carcadia burns in order to have enough to max out ur SDU upgrades
Well that's all the SDU points in Fadefields done.
>>539995779Yeah I love BL2 and its completely fucked endgame scaling that results in only 10 or so usable legendaries and forces you to slag everything in order to even deal damage
>>539994463>virgin as insult on 4chanfailed normalfag
>>539997331All the items not crossed out give you SDU's
>>539996278you grinded all that just to make her look like shadow the hedgehog, why even bother at that point
Was there an update in the last day or two? I started the UVH quest, just the first one, but had to run. Just did it now and enemies didn't seem nearly as tanky. Did they buff something or fix some broken shit that wasn't working?
>endgame>wanting live service shit
>>539996278Personally like the prison head a bit more but I will admit yabai, the default head and the one you unlock for recruiting for the ripper concert are all really good too
>>540003301Nothing wrong with people wanting a place to use all these strong builds and guns they grind for. Personally feel something like the Takedowns from BL3 is very much needed in 4.
Finally got it bros :)
>>540003301Yes. I unironically want this game to be structured like Diablo 3 with seasons, adventure mode, and greater rifts with leaderboards. I also would like levaine to sit on my face and suffocate me to death.
>>540005641it's crazy that we have to take fucking photographs of our screens because the ingame screenshot on PS5 is worthless on BL4
>>540005779I tried to screenshot on my Xbox and it literally didn't upload lmao. It's tough
>>540005641>32s rechargebricked
>>540005641What gun are you going to use with this?
>>5400053263 look so much fucking better than 4, it's incomparable.They fucked up.
>>540006843Bod or Borstel for bloodshot but planning to use Jakobs Amon with this too. I think this repkit in general probably ages well and has a lot of use for different builds
Do I have to redo everything in a vault in BL4? I just want to redo the boss.
>>540005779>>540005798consoletard tax
>>540008278If you've already beaten the mission, you can just run through the map and get to Moxxi's stand and pay up. Then, when you beat the boss, you first teleport to the chest reward, then back to the vendors so you can immediately run the boss again.
>>540008401Ah thanks. Just noticed that enemikes respawned so I got worried I had to do all that again which is a drag.
>>540007747what's the Jakobs Amon build? I'm doing a build with Aegon's Dream and pic related and I feel like I could benefit a lot from Jakobs parts
>>540008503Green tree lightning rod with crit spam using OP Jakobs weapons basically. Although I might wait until Amon's abilities change because he seems kinda one dimensional apart from the ordinance build.
Lol when are they going to nerf the throwing knife guaranteed crit perk? It makes everything a walk in the parjkk. Vault bosses die in less than half a minute
>>540008787yeah I dropped parts of the skills for more crit stuff because everything except crit seems like shit which is why I'm looking at Jakobs
Alright that's BL4 finished. I'm thinking about playing BL2 as I never played it. Does it still feel good to play after playing BL4 or will you feel like the perks, weapon skills and vault hunters aren't as interesting and varied?
>>540009323>taking longer than 5 seconds of waiting for the boss to move in a specific way to instagib it when using the knife
>>540009503Maybe that's possible. I'm not that good in making all these imbalanced one-shot builds, but if I can kill a vault boss in less than half a minute with a "normal/casual" build you know it's OP as fuck
>>540009765Are you on UVHM5?
>>540009831no, normal difficulty
>>540010908Why are you calling for nerfs when you're playing on easy mode?
>>540009323Guaranteed crit is fine, it's the infinite bleed one shot that's a problemAlso dont hold your breath for a hard endgame, even UVHM5 is piss easy
>>540005858>Charge time mattering when getting a kill from anywhere has a 30% chance to regen a chargeYou aren;t very smart are you anon.
>>540014179It can spawn with only 16s cooldown thougheverbeit.Also I use the damn thing myself, and depending on the build, you kinda end up spamming the repkit so much that even triple bypass ends up being on cooldown a lot of the time.
nerf broken shit fucking when randygger
If I unlock another fucking Echo-4 skin im going to flip the fuck out
>>540014610I have a surprise for you anon, want to know what it is?
>>540014593They should buff everything else to be crazy instead.Shit's boring otherwise.
>>540015132a link to your livestream suicide?
>>540011330Normal is hardly an easier mode than 'Hard', it's just the lazier option for someone who doesn't want to bother with elemental affinities. Damage taken doesn't really matter that much when you have one-shot protection in this game
>>540015326No its:Another Echo-4 Skin!Congratulations
>>540005641war paint is better in almost every conceivable way.
which character is the mostest funnest in 4? is it the siren as always?
Somebody tell me if I am being smooth brained or notWith armor shields, it seems like having less segments is strictly a good thing, because that means you recover more % of the shield at once, right? Like if it has 4 segments, each charge recovers a quarter, if you have a 2 segment, each charge recovers half.Or do they charge faster when they have more segments or what?Either way I feel like armor shield is definitely the way to go wit Rafa's skills
>>540015912Not if you're killing things faster than they can even touch you.
So now that the dust had well and truly settled and the games been out for a while now, how is the endgame looking my fellow Shlooter Sisters (shooter + looter = Shlooter), is there plenty to chew into? I’m looking for a new forever game for the next couple weeks and need to know if this has a vast amount of content waiting for me to binge on, has Randy delivered on his promises?
>>540014179>mechanics that trigger only off killsThese should be hard countered by bosses that don't spawn a legion of ads, but this is Borderlands, so every boss thankfully spawns legions of adsIs there any boss without ads? Because it would legit shut down a lot of people's builds with that alone lol
>>540016378Mediocre bait, almost had me.But nah just go out and get yourself a drug addiction like a real man instead of being a fag playing as a girlie girl on the internet.
>>540015363Enemies in UVHM5 have 350 percent more health is what he was getting at probably. To be honest, the UVHM5 system feels very under baked and was probably rushed out like mayhem was for BL3 and I'm sure just like that system they'll do some sort of remake of it in an update.
So are these dps numbers on the guns bullshit? I'm just starting but I have a legendary 70 dps weapon that shreds compared to the 100-120 dps weapons I have
This game is incredibly boring, even by ubislop standards. To make it interesting to play, it needs at least twice as many different activities.
>>540009501Bl2 is gonna feel more complicated because it's easy more polished for now
>>540017236DPS =/= damage. The damage stat is the damage in a single shot, DPS is damage x fire rate. So an accurate gun with slow fire rate can theoretically have a lower DPS, but in practice feel more powerful than a higher DPS but less accurate gun, because you don't necessarily hit every shot. Gotta just try 'em out sometimes man.
>>540018176>DPS is damage x fire rate.I think it also includes reload time and averages it out over some arbitrary time period.Either way, the DPS stat is a rough guideline and doesn't reliably inform you of how good or bad the weapon actually is. It also doesn't include a lot of metrics or legendary effects.
>>539995218Its a person that is deeply unhappy with their life yet refuses to make any changes to try and make it better. If they want to be a screeching eunuch at least they can entertain us.
>>540016029all the characters are pretty great, even the ones that people thought would be meh (knight guy) ended up being good once we got a better handle on skill and weapon interactions. what kind of playstyle do you prefer? that would be the easiest way to recommend something.
I fucking love how Rafa plays as he is the reincarnation of Roland but holy fuck do I hate his voice lines. He's unironically the "hola amigos taco taco burrito" shit people complain about Hispanic characters.
>>540016029I've only played Vex so far and she's fun but i've seen someone say they played everyone and that they found the bazinga science negress the most fun to play unironically
>>540016160it seems like less segments is better since with 2 segments you are grtting 50% of your shield back with every recharge. I have no idea if shields with more segments recharge at different rates or anything but if you have a useful effect that triggers by losing a shield segment then obviously having more segments is probably better in that case
>>540021028science lady can use her skill like amara in 3 to nuke the whole screen or to apply stacking buffs to herself to give her guns action skill level damage per shot. she takes some gear but is incredibly fun to play, early leveling is using the skill to nuke the screen then you clean up what survived.
Any site put up a list yet of what side missions are needed to unlock bosses for farming? Most I've found so far are just going over the rewards.
>>540017236i'm pretty sure the DPS number is like actually the basest level of math regarding the weapon and doesn't account for a lot of factors. A "lower" DPS, high damage per shot sniper with a really high crit modifier is going to be doing way more damage than the DPS number implies. like the other anon said, i think it just multiplies your damage by your fire rate, so you get (non-ripper mag) Order guns with high stated "damage per second) but clearly isn't accounting for the charge time inbetween each second-long burst of bullets
Are bosses considered Badasses for the purposes of God Killer?
>>540021028My opinion of her was immediately soured because the one and only echo log I found of Harlowe's was this
so UVHM5 is currently pointless and all thats left now is waiting for Randy to patch in the endgame, yeah?
>>540021516The only thing I can think of is track moxxi machines with an interactive map then backtracking which side quests unlock it.
Lost loot machines fixed>need to set preferences >eg. pick up vladof ARs with jakobs and atlas parts>saves the highest "gear score" items that meet your criteriaLess cluttered bullshit in the machine at the cost of more narrow pickings. With so many manufacturer parts now it would be a good qol.
>>540024125good idea thank you kindly
>>540024686Nice suggestion but I also want a loot filter
Am I really unlucky or are chests just generally garbage
>>540021791It also takes reloads into account. I think it averages out over 10 seconds. So a gun with a low mag size and long reload speed on a character that regens or doesn't consume ammo will often do like, 2x tooltip
>>540027097I'm with you. There seems to be a reduced volume of chests in general, but the "main" story chests don't seem to have much by way of junk reduction.
>>540027097they're really shit
Have they said anything about fixing world bosses? Insta despawn if you touch the barrier is bullshit, especially if the boss has knockback attacks
>>540029651What is even the point of world bosses at this point? I've barely fought one outside of early on when I was doing main story.
>80 willem kills>no legendaries at least the chest respawn when you kill him to count towards the opening red chests challenge
>>539969483
Pretty fucking annoying that the collectibles don't show in the compass unless you target them in the map. Really fucking annoying to realize after doing an area I forgot to check if the area had any.
So when I heard this game had "parts" for the guns I just assumed you would be able to swap and customise them yourself.Do you get to, or is it literally just another stat they tried to pass off as an innovative new feature?
>>540034390It's just another stat they tried to pass off as an innovative feature.It does change gameplay somewhat. Certain parts can be very impactful, and they do tend to change how a gun feels quite a lot. But the only thing you can actually cobble together yourself, is "firmware", which are set bonuses that go on your (non-gun) gear.
>>540034390>I just assumed you would be able to swap and customise them yourselfThis has never been, and never will be a feature in Borderlands. It's antithetical to the core gameplay loop.>is it literally just another statNah, it's better than that. Guns with licensed parts combine the gimmicks of multiple manufacturers, so you can have a Vladof AR with Jakobs' ricocheting shots, for example
>>540034804>It's antithetical to the core gameplay loop.I don't agree, but that's because I'm not a subhuman skinner rat scum. Even to play devil's advocate and accept this premise, it would give you another piece of loot to grind for, if anything. And if you really wanted max autism you could make them single use too, so you can't just find one part and swap it to every gun for the rest of the game. Gearbox are just lazy niggers who can't be bothered.>Nah, it's better than that.I like the system, don't get me wrong, but it would feel really nice to be able to personalise and tailor your weapons a little. You would still have to find the right weapon as the base, but then getting to choose some of the functionality/looks to more suit your playstyle.
so wtf are the the story DLCs going to be? new continents on Kairos? will they recycle current Kairos?
why'd they make that one battle song sound like This Is Halloween though
>>540036873Given they're yoinking from the just cause elden ring slop playbook, my money is on a new open-world zone that's very similar to vanilla but smaller
>>540036873>>540037257Finishing the outbounder questline has them launching their ship with Conway at the helm to try and make contact with people outside Kairos. I could see them using that as a way to bring back the old VH's for the DLC. Could planet hop but most likely it'll be another open world zone on Kairos. If they wanted to fuck with time and space stuff they could let Lillith be able to control shit and give us a way to go to old content or bosses from older games, but they would never give that.
i think i fucked up, first playthrough i just rushed the campaign and ignored most of the sidequests and collectibles. considering starting a new character. would i have missed anything that i can't go back to via mission replays?
>>540038031You did the right thing. Keep playing your character. There's nothing you can have missed, all the collectibles are still available, and you can even replay most missions.Don't worry, BL4 doesn't have any giga brain shit you need to do. You can turn your brain off and just click heads and farm loot. Rushing through the story ASAP is the correct thing to do because it unlocks specializations, that you then get to start leveling earlier.
>>540038380oh thank fuck i dont want to deal with claptrap's annoying ass again
>>540038031I greatly doubt there are missables. The only reason to start over would be to try out a different character.
Is there really any reason to not just unlock all specialisation perks first? Particularly considering that all your characters get the same spec tree.
>>540040127BL4's specialization skill tree level is per character.
what's the point of pistols?they all seem extremely mediocre.
>>540041562We need another DPUH/Lightshow
Does Amon even have any Ordinance-centric legendary mods, or is he stuck using a really good Cyborg purple mod that needs ordinance damage/cdr/crit?
>enemies scale past level 30 in normal modeI mean I understand the scaling but what the fuck? Isn't the entire point of entering the next modes to scale levels up?
>>540041562Order/ripper pistol + 50% burst fire rate enhancement on red tree Rafa clears (and face tanks, with super soldier) all content through uvhm5
>>540036873I hope were going back to Pandora(recycled desert biodome)
>>540041562i like jakobs pistols with kinetic vex buildmainly the seventh sense
>>540040450wtf is nothing shared in this game
>>540044272our disappointment
>>540044272Unlocking the specialization tree, and cosmetics, are saved on your profile file. You also get to start level 30 characters with the main story completed, if you've beaten the game once.Nothing else is shared.If you want to have any clue how bad it actually is: Not even your SDU upgrades are unlocked when you make a new character. This means your bank is not upgraded. This in turn means that, while you can RETRIEVE any of those 400 items you stored, you cannot place any items in storage on a fresh character until you upgrade your bank past that point.
Am I blind or do the vault not have encore stations?
RANDY (BADASS BE UPON HIM) HAS BESTOWED US WITH NEW CODESJHFTJ-R5HBT-KF3TK-TBJT3-JJTHHJ9XBB-KK9T3-CRTBW-BBT3T-KTBTW
>>540044639thank you Blessed Randy for the premium spoils you've given us
Who those this design was acceptable for a Borderlands game???
>>540044569You are indeed blind
>>540045129is there yet animated porn of Levaine
>>540044569Figured it out, never claimed my rewards to complete the mission, same as the fairfields vault lol.
>>540034390Nah, they're like Pokemon IVs. They're permanent so you have to farm/roll a fuckton just to get a better variant.
>PC Freezes>Rafa and profile data get corrupted>Do some fuckery with temp save file that showed up in my documents folder>Game asks me to overwrite my profile data in order to continue>Hit yes>Get my Rafa save back but have to redo my settings>Load in and see I have a bunch of story mission rewards>Claim all of them cause why not>Game false positives the achievement for getting all personal vehicles>Look at my customization tab>Missing almost fucking everythingAt least I salvaged my Rafa file ig
>>540045472and just like Pokemon IVs, the majority of people will just use a save editor to skip the autism and just play the game
>>540045680Yeah, sure."Majority"...
Kinda sucks that theres no "Elite" enemy faction. Shit like the Crimson Lance, or Loaders. Tanky, strong, later game enemies. Order enemies just feel like psychos with armour instead of flesh.
>>540045660Oh I just realized I'm missing specializations too, this is brilliant
>>540045227Soon
>>540045680Farming guns is playing the game though, if there was a working item save editor to give yourself the perfect loadout there's nothing to use it on
>>540045680>the majority of people will just use a save editololalso im in uvh5 and still using a lvl49 purple, go get your ultra-op gear buddy, there's nothing to use it on
cool skin, stats suck monkey balls tho
>>540045680This is reminds me of the time I was playing borderlands 2 with some friends from my WoW guild at the time and the guy who was really into Arenas discovered that he could just download a save file of a maxxed out character and after learning that it killed the game for him. Keep in mind we're like lvl 19, none of us were playing for "end game" but just the thought that it was possible made him feel like he was wasting his time when he could just skip to the end. So he quit playing.Moral of the story, I play the game for fun and people who do arenas in WoW are faggots.
>>540046364Remember trying to get an atlas clip on an ogre ar in bl1? We've been chasing parts since the beginning in one way or another, and we liked it that way.
>>540045279Going to need to farm better rolls but this is good for now. I'm glad it dropped, I leveled while fighting the vault boss and my weapons were not doing as well on the next attempts.
This is the ideal gun. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
Its really fucking dumb that to see modifiers you need to inspect the weapon
>>540052575do guns with hyperion grips have lower accuracy by default?
>you can just respec stat points and action skills whenever you want thank you randy-sama
Hey math nerds! ->>540052575Is that dps number factored with or without the elemental proc dmg/s?
What is this piece of junk used for?
>>540055649cheesing challenges
>>540055649bloodshot vex
>>540054472It's withoutTaser alone deletes 2 bars from timekeeper both phases >>540053854Probably
>>540055649Marcus ASMR
>>540055894>withoutHoly shit and here I thought elemental guns were weak asf!
>>540056395It also doesn't count any alt fires. Things with tasers, missiles, shotguns, etc are severely undercounted in the dps rating
None of the new vault hunters are funny
>>540058983None of the new vault hunters are fun
>>540059024I'm level 18 and didn't play the game at all yesterday and didn't really think about it
are cooldown skills still bugged?
>>540045129Moxxi is more lewd
Borderlands 4 has cured my racism
>>540056395Is this your first borderlands game? Most of the OP Vault Hunters get big damage by stacking 500 amplified elemental DoTs. If you think elemental damage is weak, you're doing it wrong.
>>540053854Yes. I had a dullahan with a hyperion grip but it was only one shot. The reticle was huge until I shot then it shrank to 85% accuracy or so, but then it had to reload lol.
this is retarded but i think i got it-Cycle time is defined by the time is takes to go through a full mag-Damage per cycle is calculated in two parts: one assuming you're missing n rounds, another assuming you're hitting all shots; this is weighted more towards hitting all of your shots-DPS is finally calculated by taking the weighted damage/cycle values and dividing them by the cycle timeFor example: >>540052575Cycle time: 10.1sDamage per cycle missing 2 shots, weighted to 1 cycle: 42402Damage per cycle hitting all shots, weighted to 10 cycles: 435480Overall damage per cycle: (42402+435480)/11 = 43444Damage per second : 43444/10.1 = 4301The other examples in picrel:>>539965975 (sniper)>>539981826 (shotgun that consumes 2 rounds per shot and has a mag size of 2- the "2 per shot" is calculated somewhere in there for cycle time, though I'm not sure where; I placed it in there by doubling reload time)I suspect the supplied values in game for reload/firerate are displayed as rounded but have raw values used for DPS calculation in game.
Know what would make those vh's actually fun to play and give more build variety?Letting me use more than one of those shitty augments
>>540061956>go through a full mag*go through a full mag + reload
heh
So far the only thing the "parts system" is doing for me is making me trash otherwise perfectly good guns, because I equip them and immediately realise it has a ripper magazine or whatever gay shitIt's nice having more variety but it's not nice how it makes finding a gun you like harder than it already was.
>>540061956Simpler alternative: it's just cycle time and the rounded numbers throw off the calculations.This makes more sense
Do all the characters drop movie references constantly?I seem to remember the old BL games did a lot of this too but also by now I think they are going to be going way over the zoomer's heads.
Hey killer. Did you miss me?
>>540063182also
Fun wise, How would you rate the sirens? For me its1.Vex2.Maya3.Lilith 4.Amara
>>540063357how big do you think her bush is considering that she didn't cut her hair during all that time
>>540063569Didn't play 3 and never will, so basically just your list minus amara
>subtitles explain the pun a character madeIf you have to explain it, its not a good pun
>>540063603Considering she's obviously a self-insert for some fat lard writer in Gearbox, obviously huge
>>540063603Huge and fiery red
>finally get around to beating the game>get to dominion>all of the enemies are so much higher level than me that they don't even show a level anymore, just a warning signGenuinely, why did they balance it like this? I'm higher level than you'd ordinarily be at the end of a Borderlands game anyways. I'm level 32.
>>540064797Anon....
>>540064797this nigga does NO sidequests
Holy fuck Timekeeper is so fucking underutilized as a villain. I'm sure the comparisons to Handsome Jack have been done to death, but HJ had so many more moments than TK to actually make him feel like a villain and a threat.HJ was always cocky in BL2, taunting you the whole way, and always seemed assured he would win. Why? Because he actually had a good reason to be cocky, since you were always dancing in the palm of his hand with Angel. Even when you one-up him by surviving that situation? He immediately retaliates by killing Bloodwing in spectacularly cruel fashion.TK never does a damn thing against you, he just watches you butcher his top men as he throws nonsensical taunts at you and then when all (read: zero) of his plans fail against you, he just fights you himself and dies. Why the fuck did TK never do something like assault the Outbounders with an army of mind-controlled civilians? Imagine how thematically appropriate and fittingly cruel that would be. He obviously even has the power to do so, considering he mind-controlled every major faction's leader all at once at the end of the game (to do absolutely nothing, shocker). So why the fuck didn't he ever use his mind control for anything but shock value and killing a cutscene-lobotomized Zadra? TK was such a non-threat it's amazing to me how they blundered it this badly.
>>540066639I've said it before and I stick with it; Almost everything in this games design was "Oh shit, don't be borderlands 3". Overreact/correction.
>>540066639He wants to be free. He went easy on you the moment he realized you got a potential to give him a good fight and prevent what's coming next.
>>540067007And that's a good thing. BL3 doesn't have anything good to offer. Well, except for Zane and they made him a main character in 4.
>>540066639This but also not enough Claptrap unironically
>>540067547I was kinda surprised at how little involvement there was from Claptrap in the main story, it seems like he's in a couple of side quests though
>>540067007I just don't get it. I never played 3, but why didn't they just bring back the writer from BL2 if they didn't want to be BL3? There's no way BL4 was written by whoever wrote BL2.Even if they didn't, they had the perfect playbook to copy in Handsome Jack. Again, BL2 had the perfect dance between you and the villain, from Jack playing you with Angel, then killing Bloodwing, and finally coming down to kill Roland himself once you kill Angel. Every time he experiences a setback, he hits you back practically twice as hard. Was that really so difficult to grasp for BL4?
>>540067965Because the writer for borderlands 2 didn't write 90% of Handsome Jack. A fact Anthony "I wish I was my sisters cuckold" Burch laments to this day in his basement as he weeps next to his framed tweet he printed out from Anita Sarkeesian.
>>540065081They still scale up with you- you stupid faggot.
The ending of the ripper life coach quest actually made me sad...
>>540066639TK dying is whatever, yeah I agree that they could've made him more of a threat but they absolutely dropped the ball on Arjay
So, what exactly is there to do postgame? It seems like the only thing the UVHM lvls actually offer is the drop of more Firmware.
Are there any half decent builds for Heartpiercer floating around? Feels difficult to make it worth casting since the wind up is so slow, and the damage relatively lackluster. I just wanna be a cool wizard, guys... got all dressed up and everything.
>absolutely loved BL1, one of my all-time favorite games>2 was great but aged badly>TPS gets more shit than it deserves, had fun with it>3 was so beyond mediocre I finished the campaign once with Amara, played the two DLCs that were out and never touched it againWhat are the odds I actually end up liking 4, given the above?Oh yeah, and what kind of framerate can I expect at 1920x1080 with an RTX4080, a Ryzen 7-5800X and 16GB RAM? Anything tolerable on a 144Hz monitor?
vile ted and the experiments is a cancerous farm. its easy except for experiment 42 who hops around constantly regenerating its vile shield. when it stands still for a fucking moment you can met it, but it doesn't ever stand still.
I find it funny how timekeeper unintentionally paints himself as some coping incel>"you ruined all of idolator sol's plans and saved the biggest threat to my order? Uh, well... h-he needed the kick in the pants, so thanks!" *Got 'em, hehheh...*>"o-oh, you killed Callis too? W-Well, I was gonna do that anyway, t-thanks vault hunter!!">"A-A-And Vile Lictor was planning on betraying me too?? W-W-Well... I always knew that! Y-Yeah, go ahead and kill him for me too, you're playing right into my hands!!! H-Heh..."
Where the F*CK is Mister Torgue
>Already encountered all 3 of the guardians that have been mentioned in bl3There's no way BL5 is going to be about the Avengers War, they're probably going to introduce some Thanos-like character in an attempt to emulate Jack again
>>540069494Why did they spell Traveler wrong?
>>540069494>You could not live with your own writing. Where did that bring you? Back to me.
>>539994061>they put Krieg in BL3 They ruined him didn’t they?
>>540070278Oh boy did they ever
>>540069252Doing a fat line of coke and reading Andrea Dworkin.
>>539979408I agree that they probably could've chosen a better victim than a newly introduced character who now amounts to nothing more than a walking plot device; but establishing that you can mad-science up an artificial siren by communing directly with the source of their powers is a potentially important revelation that I expect would contribute to the all important centerpiece of "a universe-ending war """soon""" tm".I personally dug near most everything about Vile Lictor's plot beats including Pre-Vile Lictor because a mad scientist wanting to get their hands on a siren for derivative study is kind of a no-brainer with everything that Borderlands 2 entailed between Jack and Angel; and a weakened Lilith being the only time this could actually be serviced with how strong Sirens normally are made it the perfect opportunity.
im going to fucking blow a load
Just beat the game at lvl45, honestly surprised at how little I was challenged as heartpiercer vex. Deleting the chaff with a wave of my hand and the elites with my jakbos boomstick felt great and like I can count on one hand the amount of times I had to revive with the auto-second wind perk from the middle tree. Kinda got to the point that I didn't realize some of my guns were 10 levels below.Also jesus christ the timekeeper is huge, like I think he could make amon look small.Also also, the timekeeper could have really just done the nuclear option at any time huh. That was kinda the dangling plot point the entire time considering how much he flaunted it in the tutorial but man really thought he could course correct the garden he previously left to zadra despite all the shit we were pulling. Dunno if thats just incompetence or arrogance
>enemy moved a bit too fast?>guess your Forgedrones don't hit>Pangolin curled up and literally sits there?>guess your Forgedrones just sit there too hitting air in its direction>equipped heavy weapon ordnance?>guess you're not summoning a Forgehammer drone because it just doesn't workFix the fucking game Randy.
>pick subpar class>guess youre fun is over
>>540069714Imagine who writes these games, anon.
>>540070278Krieg was never good and mentally deficient, that's why y'all like him because you relate to that tard lmao faggots
>>540072798It felt like he had something specific he wanted to prove regarding/to Vault Hunters, rather than just "winning" the conflict outright- but it was really badly executed and obfuscated by how often it wanted to "service" glimpses of his nature through his past dialogues with Zadra along side his current madness.
>>540072923You're gonna have to wait 2-3 years
>>540072798My interpretation is that he wanted you to winHe had enough of his shitty job on this shitty planet and just needed someone strong enough to take over in his place, hence why he call himself a prisoner and why he only mindcontrol everyone at the final moment, to force you to go all-in so he can test your strengthIt's not stellar writing, but it's not as bad as him being completely retarded for the entire campaign
>>540073461Early on it seemed he want to break and control the VH for something but they never explored it much further. Also given what we know from the stranded siren content this is at least the 2nd time he's been screwed over by his own arrogance. Actually did want to mention that, both arjay and the timekeeper felt shafted as villains since a lot of things that would improve understanding/invoke sympathy were trapped in optional stuff that is well optional and also doesn't fully paint the picture
>>540073985I dunno anon, that just feels like we're giving the writers unearned credit. There's basically nothing actually in the game to back that theory up
>tried to recreate the bloodwing gut punch with zane's thresher
Have we figured out a better way to get on-level gear yet (especially on new level 30s) besides Splashzone grinding yet?
>>540074130There is that stuff that Zadra was saying about how the Timekeeper she knew would have never let things get as bad as they clearly were with how controlling he was of his Order; but it was -really- easy to overlook because of how painfully stupid everything else about that scene was.
anyone else in the 3 days+ of not logging on or even feeling like playing cause theres no endgame
>>540074130Zadra talk extensively about how surprised she is that he let the city burn and how that shouldnt be possibleThe timekeeper himself say that he has no real choice on the matter when confronted about his actionsThey're not hammering explicitly, but there's definitely some hints
>>539943215>>539943583>>539944402Hey so I'm this guy, coming back to report that I went and gained a few levels, and when I came back, the enemies were still at the same level that they had been, so it's definitely not a universal constant that they'll always scale with you.This was the campaign mission "Plan Z," by the way, and all the foes I'm encountering are level ~39-40.
>>540062902The licensed parts are basically annointments again which make it baffling that they didn't include a reroll option for them like they did for annointments
>>540074442>>540074572And yet, the Timekeeper personally thanks you for goading Idolator Sol into action, and clearly supports actions that benefit the continued existence of his order (like Callis's death).I suppose it's *possible*, since there's also the fact that he shot Zadra the second she started talking to him about sparing him, but the deterioration of the city feels more like a shoddy attempt to show his own descent into madness. I mean, we hear all game from Zadra about how he used to be a more measured person (even Arjay comments in the prologue how he assumed he'd just march the prisoners back to their cells rather than kill them), he berates Zadra when she's captured by Idolator Sol for being "ever-changing", and he even rejects the very notion of "everything breaks" until he actually does.
>>540073985To an extent yeah it always felt like he needed the vault hunter to achieve freedom but I think plan A for him was always to plunge VH into despair and take control to do something. Maybe as his literal anti-thesis we could free him from his prison/service? IDK. In that sense it felt like his plan was to use the VH to clear out the formerly useful but now incompetent and traitorous in his ranks and then crush the VH's spirit with the supposed to be impregnable defenses in his tower. Hell we got into dominion by accident. The fake vaults with fake guardians incorporating one of his aspects he has around the planets are also another oddity
all the indoor areas look really good but anything outdoor is just "time of day with GI" and is pretty bland
I never even thought about this, but are the missiles from the Firewerks "ordnance" for Gadget Ahoy?
so no slots but you can spend about 50k average on moxxis tip jar for 1 unusable legendary and an ok shotgunstrange ass choice
>>540076052god i fucking hope so
I'm having a tough time killing things without popping my special constantly, and not having much luck finding a good weapon
>>540074491Not a premium gamer
>>540077197Pay a visit to good ol' splashzone
ive killed axemaul like 100 times and hes dropped 1 bod and a million buzz saws what the fuck is this
>>540077363that gun is wildly good. I don't use assault rifles for my build so i haven't fucked with it too much but it was raping things left and right even without me being spec'd into ARs.
>>540077521it absolutely shreds with any sort of +firerate
Dark Pact should've allowed Specters to move around, and Reapers to teleport
new SHIFT keys, ladsJ9XBB-KK9T3-CRTBW-BBT3T-KTBTWJHFTJ-R5HBT-KF3TK-TBJT3-JJTHH>>540077692i had +68% accuracy on my enhancement when I found the Goalkeeper and you could fire all bursts into someones head from across the map without missing. was pretty nuts
>discover bunker in idolator's noose>go through it easily>get to the boss>it just keeps walking at me>it is slightly faster than meG-GET AWAY FROM ME!!! WHY ARE YOU JUST WALKING TOWARDS ME?
>can maintain roughly 50fps with reasonable settings in combat>game still feels really laggy, sluggishthere's something else happening. I have no stutters or significant FPS drops that i've seen others complain about so guess it's input lag?
>>540078215Try turning off DLSS
Gonna sperg out about something that I find interesting. So, anyhow, I've been getting into 3d modeling and I decided to look back at Borderlands 2 because hey, why not? One of my favorite games. So I got the models and decided to do some comparisons. So here is a Marauder and Krieg set up with rendering turned on.
>>540078215it's smuttery booth in instanced areas like the first boss guy's stronghold, the problem is the open world
>>540068935jk grabbed a wombo combo and they die so fucking fast now. i should have farmed for one of these sooner to deal with viles.
>>540078316And here they are untextured.
>>540078215>50fpsare you playing this on a laptop from 2007?
>>540078524And here they are untextured, actually shaded the same, because for some reason the Marauder model was set to render smooth by default.
>>540074442>>540074572I did just find something to maybe back up this theory a little. In the second vault, the watcher/guardian/mysterious voice whatever says "Naughty Timekeeper, waiting for eternity to end." Perhaps just a figure of speech given his station, since she also says "Naughty Timekeeper loves his order" shortly before (or maybe they just didn't want to give up the goose in something you can find right after Sol), but perhaps worth considering
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE GOD DAMN META KNIFE >havent had a single one drop yet>55 hours playtime
>>540078316>>540078524>>540078694For anyone curious, the Marauder is 3,521 tris while Krieg is 3,040 for his head and 8,662 for his body for a total of 11,702.
>my tower with a 2070 can't handle BL4>even with Frame Generation forced on it's all Low/Mediumdo I just bite the bullet and get a new PC with a 5070/80
>>540037257Is that basically what CP did with Dog Town? Because that was pure kino
>>540079394Think closer to the DLCs of previous BL titles- likely just a warp to a new area that's very similar to the vanilla area.Dark Souls, if you're looking for a different game's example. I doubt they'd implement the DLC in a manner that's impactful to the original open world area.>>540079357CPU?
>>540079727an i7 8700k, I haven't really done anything to this tower besides upgrade the RAM at some point
>>540068856You will like the game. It's more of the good parts of Borderlands with more polished mechanics. You will probably like it better than 3, but not as much as 1-2.As for performance, it's fine, as long as you accept that the devs put zero effort into optimisation and straight up do not expect people to play it at native res. For reference I have a 5800X3D with a 6800XT and get about 40 fps at max settings native1080p. Turning on FSR brings it up to ~75fps.
>>540079357I am still perplexed how in the fuck Gearbox managed to fuck everything up. What? Did they just crank every setting in UE5 to max and say fuck the processing cost? Because people are blaming UE5 itself, but UE5 just offers pipelines and options. If you want to make super expensive effects for cinematics, it lets you do that. But you're supposed to cut that shit down for the actual game.
Thoughts on Moxxi in Fortnite? I'm not going to install Fortnite for her until they put Team Rumble back in the game, and initially it looks pretty disappointing (Where are her boobs?), but seeing her from behind with that long braided hair and exposed arm, almost looking like Lara Croft, it's admittedly kinda hot. Is this how she looks in Borderlands 4?>>539995779Based Borderlands 2 Chad.
>Tfw you will have to max most of your SDUs on every VH you play if you want them maxed outDid it once and that was enough for me. Really need them to change that and the dark map.
just beat the main story, how is UVHM on a new game if i wanna try a different character and actually do sidequests this time? i know you can just start at level 30 but for some reason that doesnt appeal to me
>>540080154https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJTiAGc8WTc
I'm confused about the scaling, I had the same issue as others here where dominion city was throwing way overleveled enemies at me, but to finish the game I just ran past as much as possible and the instanced area leading up to the timekeeper was scaled to my level. Is it just broken or do the open world zones have minimum levels?
>>540079946How much work is that putting in under load?BL4 uses 8 cores, unfortunately, so that might be worth upgrading too.The game is really, really poorly optimized.
>>540080285forgot pic
>>540079946>>540079357Why are you expecting an 8 year old computer to handle a UE5 game?
He just fucked off
>>540080507and from behind
>>540080493It's broken. It's supposed to be scaled to your level for story content, but sometimes whatever controls enemy spawns just defaults to the world's base level (so it'll drop a few +5 levels on you then suddenly revert back to +0 to +2 in the next area). That, or they just fucked up the scaling in general.
can anyone explain to this profoundly retarded person why everything is immune during the UVHM2 trial to get to UVHM3?I can crit some enemies and they die, but almost everything I shoot them with says they are immune.
>>540080760(Crit only)
>>540080602
>>540080689>>540080507>>540080285Now a whole new generation can goon to Moxxi.
>>540080154She's alright, I wish they put Handsome Jack in it though
>>540068779Not sure how strong it is since I'm still in the middle of hitting 50 and getting all the specialization points but what I'm planning is that after heartpiercer you grab the middle tree perks for crit chance and kill skill chance on crit and the value free revive, take the blue skill for max HP, and the rest is kinda flavor. As for firmware G00JFC 2 with lifeblood 3 is probably a solid set, and for specializations Daredevil 2 + 3 with killer 1 + 3
>>540080502Even with forced frame gen it's only like 60-70FPS and a really muddy-looking experience, it's gotten pretty noisy too whenever I'm playing anything. I was thinking about just biting the bullet and getting a prebuilt from MicroCenter, this and Battlefield 6 are 2 of the main reasons why.
>>540081162Also for me it's probably the Jakobs weapon skin.
Incredible that they gave each vault hunter 9 distinct skill trees and they all have at most 2 usable builds
>First two pieces of DLC content we're getting is "Rush" and "Ellie"Are they fucking retarded?
>>540081162>even DRG scout is in fortnite nowThis is crazy to me.
>>540081006There is nothing erotic about her.
explain the purpose of pearlescents in bl1 and 2.
>>540081854okay Claptrap
>>540081873Use your brain dumb fuck
>>540081854This is the only time I've actually found Moxxi conventionally attractive.
>>540081646rush you say
>>540082083Hick engineer Moxxi deserves RAPE!
>>540082083She's attractive but the drag shit and corny one liners elicit nothing from me. Someone pointed out how cringe the "every room is dark with a blindfold on it" wasn't hot at all. Also her strip club is basically suffering from the Starfield problem: why would you make a strip club safe horny?
>>540082401>why would you make a strip club safe horny?Because despite being a horndog, Randy is a COWARD!
>>540082401Is it supposed to be a strip club, or just burlesque?
>>540082610Well I shouldn't have said strip club, but the Astral Lounge and Moxxi's Bar are similar where they have dancers. In Moxxi's Bar it's basically 1:1 with pole dancing yet it's not explicit at all. This is for most Moxxi related things.
incase you frens missed my post above, here are todays SHIFT keys>SHIFT keysSHIFT keys>SHIFT keysSHIFT keys>SHIFT keysJ9XBB-KK9T3-CRTBW-BBT3T-KTBTWJHFTJ-R5HBT-KF3TK-TBJT3-JJTHH
>want to unlock UVHM>it makes me replay the longest story mission in the game >every enemy is 4+ levels higher than me and regenerates faster than i can kill themyoure fucking jerking my dick with this horseshit man
I'm still level 29 on my first character because my coop group never has time and I don't want to play without them. being an adult is suffering.
Open worlds usually don't bother me. But Borderlands 4's open world feels like it was designed from the ground up to be annoying and miserable to traverse.
what is happening with your face area
>>540081873>bl1Uber powerful rare ass weapons that drop from craw and Knox armory chest>bl2They were popular so they got added to 2But niggas forgot to actually make them powerful
>>540083416i learned to play by myself a long time ago
I fucking hate leveled loot.Fucking hate leveled loot.Fucking hate leveled loot.Fucking hate leveled loot.Fucking hate it. Hate it.
FECKYOU'RE TAKIN ALL ME MONEY
>>540083193the game adjusts for you doing too many campaign missions in a row. do some side quests to level up and then head back and everything will be your level.>it happened to me
>>540083930>Zane gets to fucked Levaine AND MoxxiLucky guy...
Why is there a blatantly wrong "tip" during load screens?>"You need both hands to carry something, so don't plan on using guns until you grow a third arm. So get to chugging that nuclear waste!"Uh, no? You don't?
>>540083825yeah I have several rpg's or other games I like playing solo but this bl4 was supposed to be an us game and we all promised to not play without the others but now it's me having the most free time while everyone else has various adulting engagements. I can't really complain because of course real life comes before videogames but it's just getting silly since we haven't beaten the main story or even hit level 30 yet.I work for myself with a small business I own and set my own hours which is very nice and I love it, and I do that specifically so I have more time for videogames, but I end up doing random shit during my free time anyway so I match up more with the people who work the 9-5's.
>kind of want to go for 100% challenge completion>remember I'd have to get tens of thousands of kills with certain guns and in specific waysfug
>found kickballerno one told me this thing creates nuclear flashes jesus fuck im going blind
>>540068704All there really is to do atm is optimize the shit out of your build for future content
anyone remember which side quest it is that brings you back to the Fadefields that gives you the 5th ECHO thing?
>>540084504https://www.powerpyx.com/borderlands-4-aint-no-sham-in-it-side-mission-walkthrough/this one
>>540083862That said, been thinking about how to have a non-leveled system. The best I've got is that word gets around regarding what guns you're using and enemies come geared up equipped to better resist or counter them. Your guns remain useful, but you need a varied arsenal to not weigh the scales. This idea may suck.
>>540084675thank you very much
my game just crashed
just remotely crashed some retards gamethanks for the rce randy
Been playing bl2 modded for the first time with the snowbound mod and its pretty fun sliding and hopping around. Any other good mods to use?
>>540082083BUBBLES AND BIRDS
I can't play this :( I'm living vicariously through you guys. God help me
>been using Atling Gun on Amon Ordnance build to tear through everything>find another one with identical stats but 51 firerate instead of 40>can't use it because it expends ammo faster than my skills can regen itMaybe I can find a better class mod but its gonna be really hard to beat my current one
Really have to wait almost 6 months for new vault hunters huhThe current ones all suck so much
>>540088776what makes you think the next one is going to be any better if you dont like the current ones now
>>540084369You can't do them anyway because of the Phosphene challenges. I don't even think 10,000 hours of grinding would be enough to get every legendary (and future legendary) Phosphene.
Anyone have an idea of why my vex's bleeds can suddenly crit? I think it has to do with taking the middle tree node to get skill crits but that still doesn't make sense, since its supposed to be a status effect and not skill damage
>>540089002Copium
>>540088776>Vex>bad
so I just entered uvhm, but is pic related really going to be the rest of the game? I was tired of it by the end of the city and really dont want to deal with it going into this mode
>>540089634what the fuck even is that? I've never seen that symbol once and im almost to UVHM4
>>540089820This. It means the enemy is too high of a level. It's every fucking enemy in the open world and has been since level 28 for me. Almost every one anyways. I can't exactly grind to get past it either...
>>540089634what level are you currently? i saw that when i tried importing a bugged level 1 uvhm1 save from nexus
Is there even anything they could realistically do to improve performance? I feel like they need to just make the world instanced like how it used to be, the game runs way better any time you're inside an instanced area as it is.
>>540090408I have never once dropped below 144fps with frame gen OFF, upgrade your shit
>>540090030Did you ignore every bit of side content and finish the game extremely underleveled?I've never seen that symbol once, at most I had enemies 2 levels above me
>>540090558t. 5090 with a 9950X
>>540090706no, I have a 4090 and 7800x3d
>>540089495Not him but it bugs me that a lot of Vex's builds and power budget includes at least some variation of attunement skill mix-and-matching. Like, it's a fucking pain in the ass to switch elements for anything that's not a boss, I'd rather just use Kinetic, but there's so much shit like "gain x damage% for each active attunement skill" that practically forces me to do it anyways, it's so annoying
>>540089198There's challenges for killing enemies with the shiny weapons?
>>540090030Either switch back to hard until you're at very least level 33-35 or do mission replay for Vault of Origo. Any mission works but I'm suggesting Vault of Origo just cause it has a gold exp reward and you can potentially get some decent shit from Origo
>>540090856so basically almost the same thing
>>540091231except way cheaper, sure
>>540090945No there's a challenge to get all of them. It's impossible
How long until the youtube challenge videos "can I beat borderlands 4 with only phosphene weapons"?
is the phosphene tag even written somewhere? or do you just have to notice that it's a different color pickup from regular legendaries?
>>540090884Is it really that significant?I've been doing mostly fine with stacking Kinetic/HP damage with Bloodshot Sniper Rifles, even though I did get the drops that enable elemental attunement builds, because like you said, it's a pain in the ass.
>>540091578It has a big rainblow glow when it drops
>>540091450Lmao that's beyond retarded
>>540091450It's badass
>>540091628Yep. I've only got one phosphene weapon and I've killed hundreds of bosses farming. You legitimately need thousands of hours WHILE being very lucky to get this challenge done.
>>540091590>Is it really that significant?I don't know, but considering attunement skill bonuses are the only thing the legendary Avatar class mod does, I'd assume it's pretty significant.
Rafa's red tree capstones are so underwhelming. Volatile Hollowpoints fucking sucks and does fuckall damage, it's like a minor annoyance to enemies.
>>540090884her kinetic builds are her best ones
>It's ANOTHER flying bossWhy's there so fucking many of those in this game
Spooky ghosts are pretty fun
>Weapons do not scale as UVHM level increases.What's the point of going past UVHM1 if the quality of loot does not increase?
I'm I just tripping or are armour shields way better than energy shields.
At least we can all agree that Salvador is the superior latinx of the series
Trying to get a 5 Bloodshot Undead Eye COM is painful lol. They hardly drop, and when they do they are always 3 or 4
>>540081162Whoa, when did they add AoD Lara? Is Legend/Underworld in too?
>>540091908I got that sniper rifle from timekeeper that splits into a bunch of pellets in a spiral pattern, any boss like lictor that has a big crit spot just gets annihilated and stacks bleeds instantly. Speaking of the fucking timekeeper, I've gotten a few legendary drops off of him and noticed something. Every time I got one it dropped from his first phase, I've never gotten one from the second phase.
>>540092645Firewerk is an armor shield, so, sure.
Now that ive been farming on UVHM for a while it barely feels like the drops are improved.
>>540091771I thought you meant that there was a disproportionate amount of mods that favored the attunement mechanic or something along those lines. I got the Avatar mod to drop at like ~21 but ignored it in favor of a decent Blue that boosted Kinetic/Bleed/Sniper DMG, and eventually swapped it for the Undeadeye mod.
>>540092819Damn I might actually have to reinstall the next time this Lara goes back on the shop
>>540092596There's probably not a good reason. Just like how Mayhem was shit at launch, so is UVHM and it will probably take multiple iterations before they unfuck it. Just a rushed unfinished system. It's also weird that there's 5 levels when realistically you're not going to like slowly go through them, youll just zoom right to 5 as soon as you put together some kind of coherent build.
>>540091880Crit shotguns dude, infinite uptime
>found a double barrel shotgun that feels like the Super Shotgun>that feel when obligated to run and jump around with it
>literally 10+ minutes compiling shaders suddenlyWhat even changed there hasnt been a patch for 4 days WHYYYYY THIS GAME ALREADY BARELY KEEPING ME GOING AAAAAA IM GOING BACK TO BL2
Borderlands 4 Creative Director:>We’ve seen the discourse about builds that use unintended interactions and/or the knife. We’re not going to act on those immediately, instead, we’re looking at our first round of buffs. Those will get addressed but we’re going to start with underperforming gear/skills first.https://x.com/ProdigyXL/status/1970315557460398462
>>540092857>Every time I got one it dropped from his first phase, I've never gotten one from the second phase.Guess I'm some kind of fucking liar then, got a plasma coil from his second phase. That'll go to science lady.
>>540093804NOOOOOOOOOO THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO NERF IT BROS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>540093804Don't see as problem with this at all. Might as well just focus on buffs and letting people have fun.
>>540093463Kek
>>540094426That looks like a tps or bl2 gun
>>540094628...
>>540089472can they crit from the "any hit has a chance to crit" skill node?does a status tick count as a "hit"
>>540094628based retard
>>540094628mr mobile user I have a surprise for you >File: Conference-Call-BL2.png (244 KB, 1024x1024)
>>540094628Naw
>>540090408open world adds literally nothing of value to the game so yeah
>start timekeeper fight as Vex>"Why don't you ask the timekeeper for help? :^)"
>>540094752I was just telling by the look of it, I didn't bother to read the filename MY BAD
>>540095261>doubling down
>>540094940There was a funny moment when I drove off a cliff and suddenly found myself surrounded at the intersection of a dense Ripper camp, a bunch of spawning Order goons, and like 6-7 kratches; but yeah I'd mostly agree with the sentiment.
Peak Borderlands
>>540095703ZAMN! She cute.
>I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO LILITH>I WANT TO BE FREEahme too, arjayme too
>>540095703I wish all mmos had a offline server type shi i wanna play dat shit
>>540093127Instead of using the system they fine tuned in 3. They even introduced some of the same bugs as 3 had on launch.
didn't know there were 150% amps
>>540095395>Crying on 4chan
>Woah killer... we hit the motherlode...>Randy I swear to fucking christ
>>540092734Guns and Needles or Grave Vitality are the better skills, though
>>540097713>Newfag doesn't know the CC and can't read filenamesNewest most retarded cunt ITT no doubt
>>540097990Nah, I just don't autistically read filenames like you faggots. I'm 54,I got better shit to do
>>540098370Evidently not
100+ hours and I have never seen a legendary enhancement for Jakobs. I have at least 4 of EVERY other manufacturer except Jakobs.ALSOdespite killing Vile Lictor at least 400 times now, I have yet to have him drop the one class mod FOR MY FUCKING CLASS that he is supposed to drop.Randy will pay for this
>>540098397So? So fucking what? I've been bigm around here since before most of y'all were even born
>>540094737No clue. The skill damage can crit node is the only one I have points in and I removed any other can crit gear like the jakobs enhancement just to be sure.
>>540098486Class mods drops are kinda fucked apparently. If you've got another level 50 character, try spamming Vile Lictor on that one and see if you end up getting the other guy's class mod
>>540098829You're an old embarrassing faggot, is what you are mate
>>540098845I think the training dummies are bugged and any source of damage will randomly crit
>have to farm mimicron for the sniper i wantthis little faggot is almost worth turning off uvh5 for
>>540099085You should cry about it on 4chan
I can't believe Rafa is a White supremacist
>>540100148I can
>>540072923this nigga using forgedrones
>>540100148I had no idea Rafa and I had so much in common
how does lifesteal work in this game? I have 10 points into Rafas Hostile Acquisition passive which means I get 100% life steal from indirect projectiles. Jakobs ricochet I believe counts as indirect as it doesn't fire from your gun. I do like 150k damage with one of my weapons, if it bounces and lets assume it does 50% of that, does that mean I am being healed for 75k? I genuinely have no idea how it works and none of it is explained anywhere.
Does anyone else feel like there's a giant disparity between some of the set bonuses? Look at Deadeye or Oscar Mike and then there's a different set bonus of "get 5% damage reduction".
If I designed BL characters we would have:A racist spic guy (White Supremacist)A cute shy teen Aryan girl (Siren), think Gaige X Tiny Tina from BL2 A gruff White male PaladinAnd to round it off...cute girl boss emo girl so I get yuri art with the other girl
>>540101808so bl4 but rafa is racist and harlowe is replaced with a white girl?
I'm up to my bullshit and I'm trying to figure out how a "perfect" inventory system for a game like this would work. I've seen people shitting on 4's a bit.
>>540101890Yes!Also the DLC characters would be a Japanese samurai girl (cute) and a playable loli oh oh! And a cyborg
>>540101637no, not really. Their tier three bonus is usually way crazier if the earlier bonuses are shit.
>>540102009go play a mobile game you fucking permavirgin, gearbox isn't catering to you.
>>540102009>Japanese samuraii want everyone who even considers putting more melee shit in this game to be executed publicly.
>>540102158Legendary melee weapons
>>540102158How does melee being included affect (You)
>>540102158who says it has to be melee? she can have swordbeams
>>540102447She will be a ninja and buff ordnance damage insanely
I'm at 100 hours logged and only entering the third vault now by accident
>>540102390it shits up every single fucking classit changes a core dynamic of the gameplayyou have one viable skill tree per class for melee, leaving 2 for guns, we could have 3 for guns and have actually different class variations instead of useless bullshit shitting up 1/3rd of the characters trees.fuck having melee in a looter shooter class and fuck you for being ok with it. die.
>>540103038Just have common rare epic legend melee weapons Randy u fuck
>>540103038>it changes a core dynamic of the gameplayExplain how. The game is very unfriendly to melee builds so it's most likely the opposite >you have one viable skill tree per class for melee, leaving 2 for guns,For most classes there's like one subtree in one of the THREE trees available. The vast majority of skills revolve around guns and the abilities. Even gun subclasses like elements/gun types have their own subcategories >fuck having melee in a looter shooter classYour autistic black and white thinking isn't very persuasive, do you have an actual point? Point blank/melee abilities would make this game better because it adds variety
>>540103038Honestly for Amon so far I've found his "melee" tree to be his best shooty one, you pop forgefist, start blasting people, you've got tons of extra shield regen while its active, can always punch people to restore ammo, and fly across the whole area with melee to reposition.
So out of curiosity how would you rank the vault hunters with a melee action skill across the series? Who's the most viable/least screwed over?
>>540104234They all suck
>>540104234>how would you rank the vault hunters with a melee action skill0/10
>>540104234Zer0 is the most coherent one. Also one of his most fun builds
Bod farming and this is probably the stingiest boss I've power farmed so far. Mostly dropping the gimmick buzz axe and the few bods don't have the COV mag I'm looking for. He also doesn't drop that frequently in general.
>>539955005>>539955967>>539956674What’s wrong with him? He seems like a cooler Vex with the autoattacking weapon summons.
>>540104502I guess one good thing is that the boss moves so often that drops are nice and spread out, so you can easily look to check out purples you're farming on the side. Because of this it might be better for purples than Splashzone because when you stack up kills you need to pick up items as junk to clear through and see what is on the ground.
>>539969002Standard JRPG type villain. Since he’s not quipping nonstop he beats out the siren twins in execution. About as boring as the presequel bitch but flashier so I’ll give him the edge.
>>540104548I was >>539955967I have no idea, I was just trying to make him second guess his choice, I play Rafa and haven't played any other class
Is BL3 with gameplay mods better than 4
>>539969002Neither memorable or annoying, he's just kinda there. A pretty fun twist near the end that's hinted at in a lot of different optional material from this game and the last. I will give him that he had some genuinely cool moments when he actually does intervene but a lot of the plot kinda hinges on him sitting on his hands when he could have done so much more. Wasted potential but perfectly serviceable as a villain so like a C+ or B-. We've seen worse but we've also seen better
>>540105281>Is a completed and fine tuned game with mods as good as the buggy mess that just came out?The fact it's even a question should tell you a lot.
>>540105394so, no?
>>540105443Yeah it's better. I'm having a blast with it
>>539969002They really need to consider how they can bring back Jack. They left it open on purpose and I think the next game, enough time will have passed
>>540105519No more Jack. He sucks
>>540105443Realistically the issues in 4 will be ironed out soon so yes, but also no. I think playing a game as it evolves has its own pluses though, like all the builds we're playing that will be nerfed in the ground soon
>>540105592We don't care Randy, we're tired of Lilith
>>540105506Badass premium gamer detected!! Awesomesauce
>>540105707Maybe Arjay was right
>>540105707So you'd rather look at a dude? Gay
>>540101808Rafa but more racist and misogynistic (still looks gay for subversion)Blonde white paladin who get his ass fuckedBarely legal sirenBlack male scientist with pretentious british accent and a vague connection to the Hammerlock family.
>>540044639breddy generous <3
>>540105962Not sure why you're bringing up your autogynephilia when we're talking about a videogame story
>>540105707Lilith isn't the issue it's how much they suck her off. Timekeeper was a perfect opportunity to make a subversive villain who doesn't die easily yet he gave up at the end and even though I understand why he did, it only left more room for the writers to suck Lilith's clit
>>540105775Fuck off. I wish someone was paying me for my opinion, you faggot
>>540107294Premium as fuck post
>>540107294very badass
>>540107115Unsuccessful attempt to turn it on me. You would rather look at dudes lmao faggot
They tried so hard to make the timekeeper redeemable you can't convince me a guy like him didn't have mind controlled group of harem
>>540100837>Jakobs ricochet I believe counts as indirectNyo, its as shrimple as that. Just look at the numbers you're spitballing. If it worked that way it would be broken.
>>540107137I stopped playing after 2. 3 just floated by absent my interest, then I learned what they did in 3 and it reminded me of what I hated about 2. Gearbox threw too many characters away. They viewed their own characters as a means to an end and then just squandered them, and ultimately it sabotaged the franchise. And their focus on Lillith seems to be some sort of a desperate cope in that regard.
HE'S A TYRANT BUT >His city is clean and safe>1st world necessities >Isn't a bigot >Doesn't use cringe language like JackJust put that chip in my spine already
A polite and kind Siren who has an angelic theme, who can fly with glowing wings. Blonde hair, blue eyes, slim, fit, perfect in every way. Her action skill would be to infuse her weapon with holy fire which adds more damage and dot to her weapons, and it applies to allies as well. The whole team can jump higher, gets fire dots, gains health regen, and shield regen when she uses her ability. She can rez people from afar, and can summon an angel ally that fights alongside her.A surly goth. Black hair, black lipstick, black leather pants. Clearly has a crush on the angel but will never admit it since she has to keep up the edgy persona. Starts laughing and breathing heavier the more people she kills in combat, but you can only barely hear it and she stops as soon as combat ends. Her action skill turns enemies to her side and they fight for her momentarily, and she also has a vampire theme where she heals a lot from melee and can leap high in the air and bats fly out of her cloak.A nerdy guy with glasses and a labcoat. He throws out drones and turrets and can repair unique items around the world that will then work for him. Has unique interactions around the world repairing elevators for alternate paths and recharging vehicles that seemed wrecked etc. Skill tree is either leaning more into the science half where he starts making custom augmentations to his guns that no other character gets, or hulking out and punching stuff after drinking a serum.Guy who looks like Henry Caville and is wearing football gear. His action skill is throwing explosive footballs, and the bandits will move around trying to catch it and there's a unique animation where they do various touchdown celebrations before it explodes. He gains a ton of money every time they do it, and it would be an excuse for gearbox to include their brand of humor making a bunch of touchdown celebrations. He also charges forward and stiffarms people, and can always throw his gun when it's empty.
>>540107137>subversiveIdk what way you're using this word. He definitely isn't subversive because he's a textbook fascist whose redeeming qualities were nulled through his order breaking down and killing off what little remained of his humanity. Also, I don't think he gave up, the entire point of his character is that "everything breaks" aka time comes for us all, that being his life and everything he worked to create. The achievement for completing all activities is called "Ruler of everything" which refers to a song about time, and how time is the only "constant". The frivolous things we chase as humans means nothing when compared to that. When applying that to the timekeeper, all his control, evil actions and attempts to control his own fate didn't matter even though he was immortal and had ultimate control over everything in his life. When he killed Zadra, that was him trying to eliminate a variable that destabilised him and his order (because its implied he loved her, something that would get in the way). The Lilith thing was literally meaningless and it was a repeat of the TPS ending. Basically the overall story has been frozen since then
>>540107907>clean and safedid you even see it?
>>539989476you have fun with that bub
>>540107705>Roland: 1,2,3,>Lilith: 1,2,3,4>Mordecai: 1,2,3>Brick: 1,2,3,TTWL>Maya: 2,3>Zer0: 2,3>Axton: 2,3>Salvador: 2,3What are you talking about
>>540107992>Post Elpis arrivalDoesn't count.
>>540108074yeah bro im sure the crash caused those slums to appear
>>540107992Did you pay attention? It was orderly before the vault hunters arrived
>>540107945Make the football guy also the melee character and fund it
>>540107949I mean the Timekeeper had everything in place to make a villain with a serious level of threat who doesn't rely on a physical form to survive. Being a vault monster should've been utilized more and pulled a plot twist that the tall guy you see is only a physical body he stole.
>>540108340That's not as interesting to me because the storylines with the vaults are some of the worst in the series. The only way vault monsters and universal lore works is in sci-fi and the monsters only work if you're using lovecraftian elements. The human version of the timekeeper is more interesting but kind of feels like a lamer version of Jack, because he isn't as human as him, and isn't as interesting as a lovecraftian larger than understanding monster.
>>540108049I always find it funny how nobody really appreciates the gravity of Angel's death and that's probably why Roland needed to die, and it set the precedent for why they decided to kill Maya. It made sense for 2's plot, sure. But ultimately, the whole thing of it in 2 was that it was the subversion of expectations because those deaths amounted to nothing. And I mean, Bloodwing got got too in 2. Helena Pearce. Various other characters from the first game. Thrown out with the trash. But it worked in 2. It didn't work in 3, did it? Didn't really make that game better. Didn't serve it at all, did it? Well, let's reflect. Did it actually serve a purpose in 2?
>>540108074>>540108108>Order completely collapses beyond repair the first time a disaster occurs>Has tens of thousands of mechs and grunts alongside multiple loyal generals but can't do anything about a single schizo woman>can't even fucking find her because of muh jamming despite his omnipresencelol.
>>540108580>Did it actually serve a purpose in 2?Yeah? It was probably the most impactful moment in the entire series. Everyone I ever played with had no words after it happened. Also, we gave a shit about him, no one really cared about Maya except some waifufags
>>540108752>but can't do anything about a single schizo womanShe's the one who created the mechs... and the bolts... and had access to every sensitive piece of information that could collapse his Order>can't even fucking find her because of muh jamming despite his omnipresenceCinema sins level pedantic nit picking
>>540108752Yeah yeah go live in mudhuts with the outlanders
>>540108872>She's the one who created the mechs... and the bolts>had access to every sensitive piece of information that could collapse his OrderEven this were true, again, couldn't do anything against a single schizo woman? Well done.But you're even wrong about this. Zadra created the bolts and the mechs, she outright admits to this.>Cinema sins level pedantic nit pickingEmbarassing defense. There's no scenario in which this isn't retarded.>heh thank you Vault Hunter, you were useful to me for helping me find this hidden location *snaps the necks of a dozen prisoners*Nigga can be everywhere at once and control any host and didn't think to investigate or bomb the mysterious giant factory that jams communications.
>>540108752The timekeeper was just pretending right? Why wouldn't he just control anyone causing a problem and take them out? He was just coping the whole time, he was never that powerful.
>>540109189>Even this were trueDid you even complete the game? >couldn't do anything against a single schizo woman? Well done.Besides the Timekeeper himself she was the most important person for building the Order>Embarassing defense. There's no scenario in which this isn't retarded.Not as retarded as "Why didn't something happen that would have rendered the entire plot meaningless"You are profoundly retarded
>>540109302He's talking about Callis bro
Timekeeper wasn't really that bad right?
>>540109302Oh wait you thought the schizo woman I was referring to was Zadra (who was a hermit doing nothing until VH arrived) and NOT Callis who was actively raping his population and turning them into psychos?Extremely embarassing again for you.
With all the weird time implications of the phase and the vaults it wouldn't surprise me if Mindbroken arjay is a DLC vault hunter of all people
>>540109374>Oh wait you thought the schizo woman I was referring to was ZadraMy fault, I didn't know you were complaining about something that the story overexplained. The Timekeeper literally tells you that he used you to kill her. Just like he tells you he will be using you from the prologue. So the complaint is that he did something in character and used the Vault hunters to do his dirty work? This is even more retarded
encountering female psychos and bandits in BL3 makes me wonder if there are any 'sane' guys on Pandora who have tried to capture a bunch of them and attempt to fix their minds. I do not recall any quests that had anything like that.
>>540109564>The Timekeeper literally tells you that he used you to kill her>"yes, I let her turn a huge amount of people into dernaged lunatics and did nothing about it. I let her build a factory to automate the process, let her set up jamming hardware and also let her build a rocket">"i did this because I knew the Vault Hunters would accidentally macguffin themselves and I knew they would take care of it themselves hahaha"You're trolling.
>>540109847>Why didn't the Timekeeper do something out of character and go scorched earth on her main general with a massive army?He was actively working on putting a new figurehead in Carcadia who was controllable and had access to his own robot army. Also, he was battling Callis while he was fighting with the Electi and the Vault Hunters. You're basically asking why he didn't have a crystal ball and criticising him for acting out of character.
I remember a guy here saying you can't make sense out of the random drops but you absolutely can. Some dedicated drops just drop less for whatever reason. Seems like repkits have a higher share than guns.
>>540110989it took me forever to get a borstel and i got 10 helixes before it happened, some drops probably are weighted
>>540111048Yep, it's 100% weighted for some bosses. You just have to hope the drop you want isn't the rarest one (pain)
>>540109470he dies
How do I know if a gun is better than what I have at a glance
>>540112481you can't, just have to try it
Will there be more areas with side quests in Dominion other than the western part? I'm thinking if I should just bumrush the final part of the campaign and clean up after or just do the few remaining side quests I have left.
>>540112538But there's like a gazillion guns that drop...
>>540112481DPS no?
>>540112623That's next to meaningless
>>540112481for slow weapons like snipers and shotguns the dps stat is kinda bait and you should just look at the damage per shotfor fast weapons dps is a decent indicator but you might not like how a "better" gun handles, or maybe a gun has lower dps gives you an element you aren't carrying so it's actually goodTldr:>>540112538
>>540112683I have no idea desu, I was just guessing. But why is it meaningless? The higher you have, the more damage per second you deal no?
>>540112752oops 3rd world grammar but you get my point
I need some weapon advice, this is the only place I'll ask. What's more important on the Kaoson: maximum fire rate with lower damage (top), average fire rate with high damage (middle), or good fire rate with medium damage (bottom)? I've also seen magazine sizes at 49 but I feel like that and reload speed are the dump stats for this weapon if you are using an auto-reload build.
>>540112796I think they calculate it based off base damage + reload and fire rate. All of these things change with your specs. Things like pellet count, crit, and synergy matters 1000x more than what the card says.
>>540112481i just keep equipping the one with the green number and it just werksunless its tediore then its factoring in the stupid explosion
does anarchy +% damage work on grenades or is it just the damage of the gun itself
>>540113385that middle one is the one id use
>play as rafa>make my own build >it wrecks >decide to try and change it up>take some jewtuber build and try that out since I had all the gear already>it makes Rafa's cannons unbelievably strong but the entire build is built on you physically doing nothing except holding a maliwan weapon in your hand and not doing anythingwhy would you play like this?
>>540114836That's one thing I noticed about jewtube builds. They are only good at basically one niche play style. I made my own vex build incorporating different parts of different builds that's just better
Farming a Bod with sniper/COV mag, and ive gotten like 5 ripper mags with the sniper mode. FUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>Finish AAA for Effort...I'd be okay with a Max Sky DLC.
>Hit 50Awe man. No I have to respec and make a build and I can't keep all skills in my head so I know what to go for or which ones are super good. Fack. I'm bad at builds.
>Just picking through some purple drops to see what's up>Shield, When dealing damage 10% chance to grant overshield>Highest DPS I've ever seen Vladof SMG laying right next to itYeah, okay, sure.
Just fought Callis at level 27, moving onto Vile Lictor after I clear the vault in this area. The game is finally starting to pick up a bit, decent amount of enemies to fight especially compared to early. I hope the endgame is alright but I've still got a ways to go. Amon's red tree is kino, but I really hope they buff the capstones damage, they all feel kinda shit, I can't even break shields with the storm sword, but it's useful for cooldowns and applying status at least.
>Quest>Vex asks the gate guard "If I stump you with a riddle, will you let me in?">Guard agrees>Vex says "A father and son get in a car crash and are rushed to the hospital. The father dies. The boy is taken to the operating room and the surgeon says "I can't operate on this boy, because he's my son!" How is this possible?">Gate guard scoffs and says Pfft, I'm no homophobe. Two dads!>tfwThe perfect amount of stupid. Thanks for the giggle.
>>540113385dont forget to inspect for secondary stats for crit damage
is randy too retarded to implement the PoE system where you press alt and see all the shit on your screen
>>540117587And then crash the game 100% of the time because their coding is so shitty. No thanks
I didn't know about that, fuck I'm thinking about how many guns I trashed without opening the inventory, inspecting the guns manually and checking if it had a 33% crit bonus
I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about ripper mags, but I've found depending on the gun type they can be very good. Torgue assault rifles for example are a pain to tap fire imo, but with a ripper mag you can get some silly firerates, relatively speaking. Btw can Moxxi give anything aside from this thing from tipping? I've been trying for a bit but I've gotten like 5 of them.
>>540117431>>540117847meant to reply
>>540117251>tfw Rush never got his hot sexy singles
>>540117895>Abloo ripper mags ruin guns!They clearly haven't found a Vladof with ripper mags.
i like grenade rafa but im getting tired of the firepot grenadeany alternatives
doesn't feel worth while ever looking for chestsnot one has had anything good in it
>>540117587small indie company
>>540115845same here brotherI'm farming for torque/jakobs/hyperion/smg underbarrelat least this boss isn't as frustrating to farm as shadowpelt
How could Randy do this to us?
>>540118396And that's a good thing.
I've been testing how gun damage from Vex's skill trees interact with the Kindread Spirits class mod. Most of this is obvious but I was going over every skill to see if there were any bugged or interesting interactions. On the blue tree, Cold Iron works as it says. Cursed Blade says it procs status damage on enemies receiving gun damage, but this isn't the case with Trouble. Extra Cursed doesn't even work with its melee attacks. Recurrence's description reads it is supposed to gain a stack when Vex deals melee or gun damage, this also works with any damage Trouble deals. Green tree is pretty basic, you just gain gun damage from Grave Implements and Conjunction. I skipped testing if hazards spawn from Dreadlight, it's too deep into the green skill tree for a red build. In the red tree, there's Yowl and Bay, Shocking Attunement and Infusion for gun damage. Deadwire procs on projectiles spawned from command skills. When Trouble is buffed in Beast Mode, the melee attacks are buffed by gun damage for 10 seconds but this source of damage doesn't proc Deadwire. The worst part of this testing is finding out the marked targets from Unsealed don't apply to Trouble's command damage. It's +50% gun damage against marked targets so you'd assume that would apply to the gun damage Trouble build. Overall I think this class mod is dogshit, the gun damage nodes in every tree are only additive bonuses. You're better off picking something else than dedicating 5 points to 25% damage.
>>540123969But Rush is heckin wholesome chungus black guy
>>540097981Grave Vitality doesn't give a boost to Bloodshot. It's only based on flat HP, also it's a kill skill.
i shant use the knife
>>540120173take the satchel pillI found an amazing one at level 41 that did like 4k damage, 1700 fire dps, and then did 3k dps from giant wells in the ground in a 1050cm radius.I've been chasing that high ever since. spend the last 30 hours basically only looking at grenade drops.
>>540124741does it work well with the turret grenade spawns?i feel like it will be hard to find anything that compares to the stickies firepot drops
>>540124628do it
Do collectibles only show up on the map if you get close enough? Because I'm at 5/9 and nothing's listed.
>>540124810not sure, i've not seen how the turret grenade spawning works. I will say however that I did kill myself like 10 times with it because I had that passive that spawned a grenade when your shield breaks.it had the Nuke stat so being anywhere near it when it went off was a death sentence.
>>540124968https://mapgenie.io/borderlands-4/maps/kairos
People who keep crying about the knife: Post your build and let me laugh at you
>>540124070you can make blink strike chunk if you combine this with revurburnations, but thats pretty much it
>>540124810Firepot is broken, I can one shot bosses with those even on a red vex build.
>>540125313i'm shy...
>>540125597stickies in general seem to be in a tier of their ownduring the campaign i had a crank legendary sticky jakobs that lasted me over 10 levels
>>539957221Nobody is so terrible its a joke like Gaige or brick without speed glitch Like even in bl3 people shat ob launch zane but even he was okay compared to before
>>540125395With the shortened cooldowns from the class mod, maybe you could take blood sacrifice and violent outburst to constantly respawn and set off kill skills.
>>540125161Ah I see some of the shit I'm missing already. Why the fuck would you do it this way? The rule with map markers and fog of war has always been: "If you remove the fog of war, you get your shit marked" why now this "oh but if you're not also close enough, we don't give you the marker, and you have no Idea where it could be, since there's no fog of war left to indicate you're missing something"?If websites like this ever go down, or if a player wants to "solve" this game without outside help, are we supposed to just walk up and down the map blindly in a grid search pattern hoping we'll trigger a new map marker? Fuck me. Sorry for the rant, but this is fucking stupid, design wise.
Should i buy bl4? I was really autistic about bl2 when the level cap was 61 and i have played bl1 dozens of times in my life getting multiple level 69 characters.Stopped at bl3 when that was still current quit as amara at the cowboy dlc
>>540126402if it runs good on your machine sure
>>540126343It is retarded and I share the same sentiments.
Why does randy hate pandora? I understand if pandora never changed from bl1. But bl2 made it an incredibly diverse planet so you might as well just set every game on it.Bl3 then remade it into the desert level for some reason and now here we are.
>>540117895Personally I'm partial to Jakobs AR ripper mag. Always found them to be in that awkward spot where it get a bit too annoying to tap fire and really unless it's a sniper I'm not too annoyed at ripper mags
>>540127075BL3 ruined Pandora forever, they needed a new canvas
Are Jakobs ARs only useful if they have Cranks?
does Rafa even have a "one shot" or close to it build for bosses? I can fucking breeze through mobs but bosses have become a fucking slog.
>>540127721Bonnie and Clyde is the best Jakobs AR in the game. pretty sure its the only full auto Jakobs AR in the game.
Any green vex bros tried the timekeepers new shield? Wondering if its worth farming it since she makes one of the best cases for a bloated HP build
>Play a quest>Character mentiones someone being "Lizard people level crazy"I wonder if the writer knew that the Lizard People conspiracy is a vaguely anti-semitic conspiracy theory. In so far that it was essentially a "spin off", of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", where a group of secret jews control everything. It essentially just replaces "jews" with "Lizard". so I say "vaguely anti-semitic" because most people who believe in it don't mean "fucking jews did this", but that's where it's from. Also hugely popularized by known anti-semite and conspiracy nutcase David Icke.
>>540128298It's good but you need a source of overshields to use it comfortably outside of one shot boss farming if you're playing with Blood is Power, DoTs will fuck with your max HP even if you're stacked on lifesteal and health regen.
>>540128298>bloated HP buildIsn't the extra damage you get from percentage based full health? having more HP and no shield would actually be worse for you, unless I missed some big damage you get from max health _number_. Right now I find it difficult to put away firewerks, because green vex is infinite damage vex and as such stacking more damage on infinite damage makes me go: why? For what purpose? Firewerks makes it so that in quite a few areas you clear entire screens of enemies just by killing one and then letting it chain react. Go for shit that gives you extra ricochets and damages random enemies. Why care about even more max damage? In case they put in a boss with 5 times infinite health, and you want to kill that one 5% faster?
>>540128865You could technically unlock the infinite damage part of the green tree with 10 points and put the other 39 points in blue tree for more "auto-damage"
I THINK TEDIORE SUCKS
>>540109470I want us to go through time and space and get old slaughter zones and dungeons back. Or have to go back in time to get the artifact that the safety of the universe hinges on, T.K.'s leg.
>>540112559You get specialization xp bar after the main campaign so save the side quests for then to double dip.
>>540121672The 4 chests after timekeeper arent bad, I've gotten almost as many legendaries from them as from the boss.
Is this the first borderland that's missing an extensive bit of TORGUE MANLY FUCK YEAH EXPLOOOOOSIONS dialogue? I feel like there was a quest like that in every game, (starting with BL 2 of course, I think in 1 it was just a regular gun manufacturer) and I haven't found any like that yet.
>>540126142Zane felt so much better with the first DLC. His legendary class com that amped up his kill skills and a couple weapons that were really good for it helped to tide him over until the balance patches.
>challenges don't carry over to new charactersliterally what the actual fuck were they thinking?
>Literally just a torgue AR on impact mode with 50% less dpsVery interdasting>>540127824You could probably cook up a first-shot amp build,but I find that red tree infinite ammo is the comfiest uvhm5 boss farmer. Doesn't one-shot though
I still haven't received confirmation that enhancements that give manufacturer-specific weapon part bonuses work on weapons made by the manfacturer that have no specifically noted parts by that manufacturer.
>>540132061Enhancements work on their weapons even if it doesn't have a tagged part in the item description
>>540130681He only existed in 2 onwards. Pretty much every manufacturer was faceless in 1 besides atlas being the villian and jacob having some flare with the zombie dlc.They didn’t even have gimmicks yet, only like general stat increases like its been a while but i think torque guns just had higher damage modifiers and that was it?Tediorie was the cheap 3rd world brand so had less stats overall which was pretty funny, the throwing gimmick didn’t exist until 2.2 actually did so much heavy lifting in making the world, bl1 was just a simple techdemo even if i like how simple and pure it is.Bl1 is the perfect sound off music on video game
>>540132483Alright, but who are you to confirm such a thing? Sure it makes sense, but that doesn't mean it's the case.
starting a new character at UVHM and level 30 is an abysmal experience. you can't kill anything and have zero ammo capacity and basic bitch backpack. why?
>>540132642>vladof enhancement increases underbarrel damage by 50%>shoot dummy with VLADOF weapon with underbarrel weapon with unequipped enhancement dealing 20,000 damage>shoot dummy with enhancement equipped dealing 30,000 damage
>>540132730Then start at level 1 and turn uvhm off?
>Constantly call Quent by the wrong name as a bit>Invite him on a dangerous mission, then abandon him, as a bit>He diesHow could Callis do this?
Vex bloodshot build is good but it has very low movement speed and no real variety. Kind of boring. It should be good post bleed nerf, though.
>>540126771Very cool, I hated that shit in BL3.
>>540134101Are there any other green builds with better movement speed?
>>540131879what weapons are you using and how does your build work? I have "infinite" ammo on my red tree build but only because I'm using hot slugger and that shield that gives you replenishes 1 ammo per second at full shield.
>>540135674Not him but he's probably using Borstel Ballista with amp shield + amp repkit as the base without considering the build in question, I'm not a rafa player though
I think legendary enhancements are the second rarest thing in this entire game. I have found 7 in 100+ hours and I have never received one from the same manufacturer twice. I have never seen a Jakobs one.
>>540135552You can find a lot of ways to move faster. I used kinetic+teen witch+super soldier and it was very good.
New thread?
>>540128564>"There's a group of monsters secretly running the world, plying humanity against itself for their own benefit.">"Why are you talking about us?!"
>>540136524And there's no hybrid legendary enhancements, which is very gay
How the fuck is the bank SDU not shared?Isn't the bank shared between all characters?
>>540141573Can take items out but not put any in. You're welcome by the way, always so ungrateful...>sounds of blenders and polka from the back room
How do I keep levelling after the campaign? I just get specialisation levels but I want my final 2 talent points
>>540142691fastest is to farm vile bounties, they also have a decent drop rate for legendaries and purples to use for farming your first 50 gear.
>>540142691real XP doesn't stop until 50, there's two bars
RANDY WHERE THE FUCK IS IT
>>540141997Rabdy is an inbreed retard
>>540132895Are you stupid or something, if it has an underbarrel that means it has the part.
>>540144041I got news for you, buddy: manufacturer weapons are made almost entirely out of parts from said manufacturer
Missing 1 ECHO Log, All maps are showing that I've obtained everything, am I missing something here? All I'm after is the silly hat for my little boy.
>>540144041>equip VLADOF weapon without an underbarrel and a magazine size of 40>equip vladof enhancement increasing magazine size by 20%>magazine size increases to 48
