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INVADERS MUST DIE edition

Previous tourist honeypot: >>539971352

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game
>https://deltarune.com

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
-Undertale Artbook
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk

-Legends of Localization - Undertale
>https://pastebin.com/DkZaXMpi

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/

-Undertale/Deltarune Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/WG9u1fvH

-Undertale Image Collections
>https://pastebin.com/g2JqH6Ba

-Booru (newly resurrected, please help tag)
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

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I am happy to know that toby and i think the same regarding the war. It may not be canon but the fact he thinks the same way i do, I feel content
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FUCK FANGAMER
FUCK FANGAMER
FUCK FANGAMER
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tv mailman sex
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clover is pretty cool
I hope someone makes a less shit DELTARUNE yellow or other DELTARUNE fangame
also what the fuck is the glowshard in the light world
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>Not even Toby can escape the fires of the impending 2ACW
I escape reality for a day or two and DRAWS ME THE FUCK BACK IN
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need sex with Battat
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Frisk is the abandoned quiche
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Buff tem
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Is the reason people freaking out over this was because Toby said it to everyone's faces when it would 100% be the case with monsters existing with humans
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>barrier finally broken
>gerson's old human girlfriend is almost certainly dead
>after so many years, he'll get to visit her grave
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>>539978424
yes, unironically yes
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>Left:
Asgore's side piece.
>Right:
Gerson's humanfu.
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Toby officially endorses monster men fucking human women
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ARE YOU IMAGINING YET?
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Will the browser games be permanent or are they gonna go away after a while?
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YOU HEARD TOBY
POST YOUR OCS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>539978473
It's been so long I don't think he'd be able to find his partner's grave
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>>539978393
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>>539976438
Going by earnest fandom will, Togore did win. Toby/Fangamer/"some 3rd party" donated upwards of 20K+ or so to Chara at minimum (simple unorthodox jumps were the 6k start of day 1, 10k start of day 2, and then before True Lab Chara got 6k so it could end as Togore). Probably try to check Chara's donation count before their name got chosen because that's probably another case of Toby/Fangamer showing their hand.

>>539976761
I'd like if he treated a fan contest as a fan contest and let the will of the fans prevail. I'd like it if he could talk about the whole game (or I guess "much closer" since I can understand doing 30 neutral endings might be a bit much) and not half of it. I'd like it if he could stop repeating the same joke he's had for a decade regarding a small skeleton. Hey, there's no reason to not release the fucking beta anniversary branch of the game even if bugged/unfinished (what if people decide to fix it up and finish what you started?). And this is coming someone who could say they enjoyed the stream at the end of the day. It was a nice walk down memory lane with the little insights a nice touch, just wish we got the whole game and perhaps he didn't have covid/could be there in person (TTS did have some chuckle moments but was also frustrating too).
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>>539978371
MUSCLES ARE NOT CUTE
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Toby Fox fucking assaulted me in my own home with his mind
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>>539978525
i'm imagining you /v/tard tourists fucking off. we use this image here
>blrrgghh
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>>539978439
uh oh anon there's like a tiny bit of pussy there you scoundrel! can't be posting that on a blueboard!
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I just don't understand why he'd even add half the shit he added for the stream. Little teases here and there, nods to Deltarune, yatta yatta, sure. Little Noelle by the tree, expanded Old/New Home segments, little Gerson lore dump, the meme creature behind the curtain in True Lab, that makes sense for an anniversary livestream. What the fuck is the point of the underwater village, the houses in Hotland, the school, the laughing walls in True Lab, and whatever else I'm already forgetting about? Fucking why, Tobias?
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Well it's official, I'm more invested in Deltarune than Undertale now. It was cool seeing extra stuff in the stream but it just made me want Chapter 5 more.
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If you read between the lines, this whole event was Toby Fox shitting on fanworks

How will the community cope about this??
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>>539978563
it'd probably be his last adventure to find it
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I love TV...
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>>539978424
>is the reason people freaking out over this was because Toby said it to everyone's faces
yes
there was no other reason to include that text there, other than toby wanting to make it explicitly clear to everyone reading that yes, monsters and humans DO fuck and it's a completely normal thing
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>>539978539
Nothing online is permanent, better to download an offline copy and archive it on your hard drive, it's how I kept a bunch of otherwise lost undertale fan media
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>>539978608
This.
I'm going to take a break from all of this for a while.
I don't think I all that care anymore.
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>>539978625
At this point Undertale's story is so done the creator was metaphorically yelling at you to just imagine new things on your own, so yeah
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>>539978475
>>539978656
Following that line of logic mean Half humans and monster kids exist and the half human Purple Lesbian is now canon
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>>539978651
i love tv! i wish he showed up more in the stream, but i guess i shouldn't be greedy.
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>>539978684
how the fuck do you download a functioning copy of a website
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>>539978562
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>>539978590
Thanks, I'll be sure to block you
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>>539978704
it's literally been a finished game for ten years.
but it's just raiders stirring the pot. gonna wait for tourists to fuck off before viable discussion can begin.
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>>539978623
Wait that was a meme creature behind the curtain? Was that one of those Italian Brainrot AI things? What was it?
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>Why did Toby include all these things I can't touch or directly look at
>And then why did he talk about how fans should be creative and imagine different versions of something or the places just out of view, to make a world seem bigger
It's all bait.
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>>539978608
Does this also imply that Asriel has been flowey for 10 years?
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>>539978736
SUSIE IS HALF HUMAN CONFIRMED REAL
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>>539978619
What?! That's a seam, she's a stuffed animal, of course
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>>539978572
Togore isn't a funny enough meme to justify this much whining
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>>539978608
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byUCuhB8r5Q
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>>539978795
And people will STILL try to tell you monsters can just suddenly bleed now for no other reason then they randomly lost a unique aspect of themselves
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>>539978790
Meme as in joke, not an actual known meme or anything. Not that I know at least.
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>>539978105
Who wonned? Who losted?
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>>539978779
Not a raider man just giving my thoughts. I liked the stream
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It's never too late to start your porn fangame
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>>539978503
Oh yeah, i actually kinda of forgot the intro had a genuine human mage.
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Guys, im scared Deltarune will end with a “Dude, let media go and enjoy real life!!” bullshit like Evangelion 4
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>>539978905
Oh, we all lost.
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>>539978905
transbians wonnered
everyone else losted
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>>539978905
Togore lost bigly and was brutally killed on camera for his sins
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>>539978748
I am sad too that he didn't show up (only did for like 2 seconds in the first stream), but just as long as Toby keeps releasing merch of him I will be happy. Really looking forward to that Tenna bendable figurine.
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>>539978608
Do you think this is merely reflecting on what pretty much everyone thinks at some point in their lives?
I wonder if this is how Toby feels himself.
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>>539978820
If you are doing a fan contest, you are opening yourself up to the possibility of the fans doing a dumb decision. Either be sincere with your fan contest and let the fandom make a dumb decision, or don't make one at all.
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Beat it after like 20 tries. I'm old!
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>>539978946
I don't think so, Toby still has a fondness for Undertale, after all.
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>>539978105
- Current whiteboard: https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/75990482-1291-3765
- Previous whiteboard: https://r8.whiteboardfox.com/86440374-8564-4327
- Magma: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh
- WorldOfText: https://www.ourworldoftext.com/utg
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>rigged donations to make Chara win
>clearly used the fact that Chara's name was chosen to enhance the emotional impact of the Asriel fight
>confirmation that Asriel loved Chara so much that he was willing to fire a rainbow beam just to spend more time with them
In the end, the biggest Charafag was Toby himself.
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>>539978905
I won :)
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>>539978795
>>539978886
I wonder why t5hose haven't shown up
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>>539978105
WE WON
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I feel like part of it is this stream came at a weird time what with deltarune's development
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>>539978905
HMOFMfags won!
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>>539978946
That would suck. Real life is getting so unbelievably shit that occasional escapism is pretty much required to survive.
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>>539978886
>now
Sans Undertale
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>>539979157
Ketchup
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>>539978973
me too! waiting impatiently for my tenna plushie, thinking about making him some clothes.
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>>539979117
Someone should tell her about how that stuff isn't rare
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>>539978946
>enjoy real life!!
dude have you SEEN real life lately? there's nothing to enjoy, give me more escapism
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>>539978905
toby all but begged people to go with chara instead of togore to the point where even the presenters commented on how hard toby was trying to tilt the vote. people basically stopped voting for togore entirely and chara won easily
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>>539978424
yes
also some people say stuff like "it's absolutely retarded the monsters would forgive the humans for what they did" and this dialogue was making it explicit that war is hell and there's no such thing as one side being pure evil and the other being pure good. even during the war not all monsters and humans hated eachother, there's nothing stopping the new generations from getting along
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>Gerson shows up right at the end to say the true history of the Human-Monster war was lost
>Says that Humans fought on BOTH sides along with Human-Monster marriages and other relationships fully existing
>Admits some of his 'best war buddies were human'
>He either knew or recognized one of the mages or developed a crush on the spot seeing her
>Humans likely sacrificed their magic to lock the monsters away after fighting a war no one truly wanted

Oh. It's pain all the way down.
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>>539978946
i cant do danganronpa v3 again im not fucking strong enough
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>>539979272
new sand animations were all the new content needed
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>>539979136
>>539979250
Toby is a millionaire who lives in Japan so he doesn't care about how shit the world is for poorfags in third world countries like America
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>>539979225
Hometown is a self-sufficient nation. Human-Monster relationships haven't happened due to the country's low human population.
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>>539979303
And monster fuckers exist and would forgive it
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I don't know why any of you are taking any of this shit Gerson says seriously when Toby literally says
>uhhhhhhh fuggin whatever you want counts i guess lmfao
He doesn't care.
He made his money. There's no "canon" anymore.
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Reminder there has never been any evidence Tobert lives in Japan other than his general weebiness
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>>539979318
toby realized the war was too one sided so he made it 10 times more tragic

i honestly like this new perspective on the war
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>>539978795
What if thats the entire reason toby put that line in, people were just too fucking stubborn to accept monsters didnt suddenly have a complete anatomy change even after confirming they still dust
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>>539978758
It's a bit tricky but it is doable, I'm guessing it's all already being decompiled now so an offline version will be made sooner than later
>>539979136
I always hated this sentimentality amongst some authors, like isn't art a reflection of ourselves? To say ignore it and only experience real life is to deny ourselves humanity, the ability to have any insight to our mind and ultimately be a soulless clog in the societal machine.
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>>539979404
Or Hometown is very gated
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Am i the first one to draw porn of this shower thing
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>>539979404
Gerson impregnated a human enby though. Alvin and Ms. Boom are both halfies.
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>>539979330
The message of v3 was the exact opposite of that retard
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Reminder that Gerson proved Asgore didnt murder 6 defenseless children in cold blood
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Fuck you dog I'm going to make my on AI generated ending for Deltarune
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>>539979546
congrats anon
I'll be honest for the first time in my life we saw a new UT/DR character and I didn't immediately think of how quickly porn would be drawn of them
you're a true trailblazer
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>>539978424
How the fuck would monsters like Tsunderplane
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i was mainly just expecting them to do a stream where they would play the game but i didn't expect this extra shit and this was very enjoyable. i kinda wish day 2 had more crazy zany stuff like spamton (a tenna appearance) but it was still very fun. good on you tobert you lousy canine
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i can't believe toby stole ares and turned him into kris just to then steal dela delon and turn her into gerson's human wife
it was brandish all the way down
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"Escapism bad!" is a overdone entry level midwit tier moral of the story and I think Toby is above that kind of thing. So far it seems like its going in the opposite direction because ralsei keeps hammering in that the dark and light worlds exist in parallel, its not like they're just disappearing into their own imaginations or some shit
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>>539979421
He's fluent in the local language and does a lot of work there, why wouldn't he live there?
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>>539979318
How did monsters lose the war if they also had humans on their side. Why didnt any monster take one of their fallen human comrade souls? This fanfic is nice but it falls apart if you think too hard about it.
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>>539979657
were you gonna say "lousy mutt"
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>>539979675
>"Escapism bad!" is a overdone entry level midwit tier moral of the story
so is "the power of friendship" yet that didn't stop him
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>>539979205
I hope he gets shipped soon! Could really use a Tenna to hug sometimes...
>thinking about making him some clothes
That reminds me, haven't picked sewing back up in a looong time but you know what, I think it may be worth it to make him cute outfits. I think he'd like that.
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>>539979646
you know plane furries exist right? theyve figured out ways for planes to have cocks and fuck each other
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>>539979640
I'm not taking the stupid pills
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>>539979657
I knew the game was going to be different after they fixed the grammar of that one Froggit dialogue, like why change fix a mistake like that if you're not going to release the build?
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>>539979762
The same reason why better off armies still loses
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So when the FUARK is Kris learning some REAL magic?
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So how much until someone makes a mod that adds all the new content to the game
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>>539979762
I know this is retardation bait but I'll still bite: Because it was all bullshit you fucking moron. The whole part of 'A MONSTER IS STRONGER THAN HUMAN IF THEY TAKE A SINGLE SOUL' is bullshit. This is seen in game. You fucking beat Asriel through being determined enough, when he has the souls AND almost all the monster souls.
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>>539979762
Likely because there were also Monsters on the Human side too
>"Why would they fight their own race"
I can ask the same about the humans on the monster side. Also self hating white people exist so there's probably monsters that act the same way
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>>539979778
power of friendship is incredible when handled well
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>>539979272
this mothafucka's new fight is a bitch to beat
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What is instead of it being the war of Humans and Monsters it was the war of Azeris and Armenians?
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>Froggit saying some of the humans stayed with Toriel a long time
That was me
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>>539979778
power of friendship is a lot better than Escapism Bad though
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>>539979798
I'm still thinking she will show up later because why would he make new NPCs not to reuse them later
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>>539979778
that wasn't the moral of the story you fucking imbecile
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so how long until your slightly less autistic friend circles realize there's a new sans fight
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>>539980006
a day
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>>539979778
power of friendship is a good moral, it doesn't need to be complicated
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>>539979850
Once someone get to drawing stuff
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>>539980006
Either a month or months
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I'm too tired to draw my meds kicked in, here's kt thirsting over jevil
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Name one piece of media where 'Escapism bad' was done well
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>>539979827
so you'd rather be a miserable, "englightened" cynic than be happy? maybe you are on stupid pills.
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>>539978572
>Undertale should unironically literally become Homestuck. This is a good idea.
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>>539980006
Forever, they're never finding out
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>>539979272
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>>539979318
I guess that's why the monsters were sealled instead of wiped out.
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>>539980064
*leg locks u into bed and sleeps*
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>>539980060
Has anyone ever used a burner account to figure out what’s up with this guy?
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>>539980065
Ever watch Paranoia Agent?
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>>539979860
>Also self hating white people exist
The better equivalent would be Indigenous folks fighting on the side of the European empires and settler states that were colonizing them.
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>>539979645
i don't know who needs to hear this but his balls go in a ring around the base
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>>539980067
no, I'd rather my dick to work and for the stupid bitch therapist who was trying to force them on me and couldn't list side effects when I asked and pulled out her phone to Google them right in front of me completely destroying my trust in the medical system and any hope of "getting help"
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8061302/
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>>539979640
Work on your game, Toby.
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>>539980067
They are going to erase the little personality I have, to have something, even bad, is better than nothing at all
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>>539979675
Escapsim bad was never a theme. Chapter 3 was about TV and video games and isnt about the horrors of wasting your life on those things but about how fucking nice it is to connect with friends on the couch while watching TV and playing video games.
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>>539978792
Yes, it's trying to bait you into not being a doomer and making something of your life. Stay strong.
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>>539979762
Could have been a question of which humans you have on your side.

Like there could be multiple human groups with varying levels of sway, and maybe it was only weaker or smaller groups of humans supporting the monsters
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>>539979801
The fire rope?
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>>539980162
anyone else remember Hello My Future Girlfriend
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>>539979854
You didnt understand Undertale, retard-kun
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>>539979798
I hope Berdly gets at least a little bit more in the future than a short saccharine arc about not needing to impress others but I feel like thats probably all we're going to get with him and it will likely still just be bookended with jokes at his expense
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>>539980239
anon I'm shitting on the guys threadshitting with that post! the final quote did make me sit and examine my life though. It actually makes me want to... get a job...
I guess a part-time job is better than no job... 25 and not having worked a job ever is really, really bad. 25 and not having worked a job and having failed at almost everything you tried to do BESIDES getting a job is extra awful bad.
I'm gonna... sit and think on this tomorrow...
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what do you want to create, anons?
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>>539979778
The power of friendship is the opposite of a midwit moral. Only retards and geniuses can appreciate it.
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>>539980410
A baby with yo mama
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>>539980162
Please dont fucking respond to this guy. The spambot will keep spamming /utg/ because its picking up direct responses to it, it doesnt matter what youre actually saying.
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>>539980410
Nothing because that's too much effort, I want Toby to make more slop for me.
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>>539980234
you have no personality, anon. keep dreaming- mental illness is not a personality, it is a flaw.
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>>539980296
>Pyrope
>sweaty bondage elemental shortstack
you lack vision
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>>539978424
How long before Uncle Ruckus monster
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>>539979762
Maybe since "monster with a human soul" was something possible on both sides, everyone decided not to use that technique because it would be mutually assured destruction.
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>>539980410
A blood clot in my brain.
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>>539978424
Hi, just woke up. Is this why precious threads have so much posts? Anything else interesting?
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>>539980287
Undyne's ability to nuzzle with such force was quite impressive!
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>>539980410
Tenna (and pippins) porn
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>>539979762
The monster-hating humans would want to avoid slaying any humans on the monster side, because their position was founded on the fear of monsters getting a human soul.
The monster-defenders were likewise also trying to be pacifistchads and defend their monster friends but not want to slay any of their brethren while doing so.

Gerson's human companion was also one of the mages that made the barrier. It's likely that it became clear that monsters were dying in this war and humans weren't. It was only a matter of time for them to be wiped out. But by participating in the Barrier's creation there was a chance for the monsters to be left alone underground forever and the genocide to be stopped that way.
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>>539980410
I have a book-thing I'm writing with a concept&setting broad enough to be multimedia but unique enough to not be slop that could bring me somewhere. I've got some ideas for games and stuff too but I haven't really learned any game engines. maybe ill take a class on programming, since Ive still got time for it.
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>>539980410
If I told you it would never get released because you'd tie it back to me telling you and it'd cause my entire reputation to die forever since I stepped foot in this cursed place
Also I'd really like to create a Brandish remake that doesn't suck dick like The Dark Revenant
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>>539980064
cute
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This the new dialogue in the Asriel fight
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>>539980410
I would like to create a machine that makes me actually work on ideas instead of the one that I have that keeps giving me new ideas that are really hard to implement, except that seems really hard...
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>>539980410
I'll probably go make a visual novel about a monster woman.
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>>539980410
Krisriel
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WHAT DID IT ALL MEAN? WHO SAVES ASRIEL? WHO LIVES IN THE NEW HOMES?? WHATS IN THE OLD RUINS??
AND HOW CAN I PLAP METTATON????
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Did they ever upload the OST from the stream? I want that Hopes & Dreams remix
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>>539980410
My career destroyed my creative drive, I don't have the time nor energy to create anything anymore. It's dead.
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>>539978240
>>539978393
>>539978568
Lmfao saved
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>>539980517
No next to this
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>>539980578
It's incredible how this could've fit perfectly in the original release. Some of the rawest dialogue I've ever seen. He actually lived that shit.
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Bro they got one guy prototyping enemies for ch6 lmao

Deltarune 2030
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>>539980403
meh i existed on kind of a similar timeline. i floundered until my mid 20s. undertale indirectly inspired my career choice. my own parents didnt think i was cut out for much of anything but im doing great now at 29. your 20s are for fucking around and starting to form an actual cohesive adult identity. you're basically still a kid until like 21 22 imo, thats when the training wheels come off and you have to start to actually try
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>>539980537
all it takes is one self hating human and thats possible back then
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>>539980410
what i've always been creating.
weird niche, autistic cyoa's for utg.
i also wanna make stuff in FL studio eventually. i've got a license, but i don't know where i'd even begin...
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>his favorite celebrity that he looked up to... Turned into his annoying boss that he hates... But actually he probably still loves. I'm telling you guys this stuff writes itself.
Do you guys think Toby likes Battenna?
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>>539980410
An animated webcomic :D
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>>539980403
Honestly, just having literally any job is good because it makes you really appreciate free time.
Having only free time or being able to treat your job like "I just show up and see what happens" without stress or effort is what leads to CEO brain and magical thinking and completely detachment from reality and invites Riotus into your brain.
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>>539978424
Someone watched stream? What was chat reaction?
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>>539980410
I want to make something that emotionally resonates with people like me without being gay and cringe and embarassing WHILE still being fun to play... and having good music... and being engaging on its own terms...
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>>539980667
nobody saves asriel anon. he died a long time ago
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>>539980578
I didn't think Toby could have found a way to make that fight hit any harder.
I was wrong.
I hate him even more now.
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>>539980823
typical twitch culture shit
>I WAS HERE
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>>539980794
sounds... Familiar...
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>>539980578
The Asriel fight always made me emotional but this? This is just my depression put into words, time is awful to all.
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>>539980815
he's been infecting the world lately.
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>>539980461
You might be shitposting, but I will take this message into consideration more deeply.
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>>539980578
Toby is still a good dialogue writer regardless of anything else. I'll probably cry like a bitch at Deltarune's ending no matter how the story actually ends.
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>>539978736
>half
Monsterkind has been underground for so long that any human genes they might’ve had are probably nonexistent now.
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Why is there so many breads
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need more of this plz

>>539980578
yeah, this shit made me tear up and i hate that I feel things
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>>539980901
love me decay ha ha ha
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>>539980410
I want to make a game but I can't draw, code or make music
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>wHy aRe TherRE sO mAnY ThreADS?!!??!?
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>>539980410
I wish deltarune was easier to mod and make content for. I have ideas, but I cannot execute them
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>>539980578
Why is Toby Fox so good?
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Why did the war start??
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>>539978946
I'm expecting to get emotionally murdered, in a way I cannot fathom yet. And even if I could imagine a potential ending, that little bit of knowledge would destroy me.
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>>539980768
Probably a little, I think he might still be a little in shock by how much the fandom loves that green schizo
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>>539978626
>If you read between the lines, this whole event was Toby Fox shitting on fanworks
In what way could you possibly have got this from the stream
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>>539979675
We thought he was above Suselle too.
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>>539980754
>>539980847
BUT HOW CAN I PLAP METTATON!?
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>>539980764
Do you have a list of what youve made? I would love too see!
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>>539980981
more of what, anon? these instances of kris... do not exist.
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>>539980956
Don't they only age if they have a kid meaning there is still enough from the war that they can still breed with humans
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>humans and monsters can breed
>Gerson was in love with the human mage from the sealing

>Gerson and Gaster are major parallels in Deltarune getting lost in their creation/never finishing it

The logical conclusion is Gaster is either Kris or Susie's dad, and he was either a monster in love with a human or a human in love with a monster
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>>539981008
Hey thats what I asked
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>>539980880
It will be good this time
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>>539980410
my entire life ive wanted to make music, but my parents spent my entire young life getting mad at and discouraging me for having aspirations related to art that weren't just something like playing an instrument at school or for the family, even if it wasnt a career, and now years later I'm in my late 20s living in a half depressive cope half earnest fear limbo that being an adult dreaming of making something serious in this medium is pathetic and retarded
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>>539980586
toby said something like "perfectionism won't take you anywhere" today
that really strikes a chord
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>>539979860
There weren’t. They all went in the cuck cage.
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I'm annoyed at how vindicated Homestuck fans probably are from Toby bringing it up constantly this stream. Thankfully the lost with the Penumbra shit. Tired of every Chapter 7 fansong being a Penumbra Orgasm remix.
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>>539981050
A bat-like monster sneezed and gave the humans COVID
>Captcha: HTWAR
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>>539980410
I have a lot of interrelated ideas for a possible story, but I'm still struggling to figure out a proper plot. What I should really do is put all my ideas down on paper and chart a course from there.
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>>539981180
Toby says a lot of shit and he can suck a fat cock.
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>>539980578
>i dont want to keep growing up... not without [Chara]
its difficult for me to shift my concept of asriel having tragically died as a child and flowey being a facsimile or resurrection made partly of his byproduct, to flowey directly being "adult Asriel" just warped by his experiences. i dunno. interesting that thats how toby presents it though. he could have bothered to alter asriel's final dialogue where he presents flowey as distinct from himself though
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>>539981102
these fuck so hard, spooky
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>>539980904
https://youtu.be/o-0rMAFOAx4
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>>539981081
Togorefags apparently think Togore is the only fan creation in existence so by shitting on their garbage meme, Toby is shitting on all fanworks
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>>539981109
Gaster fell into his own creation.(he tripped and fell into his daughter Susie's mouth while she was sleeping with it hanging open. She never found out why he abandoned her.)
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>>539980946
I think Psycholonials was an attempt to stop it by making it just a fictional story but since Zhen's solution ultimately came down to
>dude just log off
and nobody IRL logs off we're now stuck forcing succession via making "small indie games" or some shit. I still blame Kojima.
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>>539978792
Stop defending Toby’s faggotry.
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>>539981109
If i could draw i would make a comic where Susie show Kris her photo album and her dad being human
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special announcement: after cuddling with an anon yesterday i am pregnant with their child, i was told this wouldn't happen
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>>539980410
I only have a fictional universe in my head which is just a incoherent mash up of stuff from media I consume that I maladaptive dream about
I don't want to put it down in any form because it would be cringe
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>>539980410
a game, probably. i want to create some concepts for it and imagine all the shit it could have in it, although i don't feel like said ideas will ever leave my imagination. i will improve my skills and try to make them leave, but i don't count on it.
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>>539981197
good lord who gives a shit. create something or at least get a job so that you're not so distracted by such meaningless things as homestuck fans being "vindicated". you'll find that your time is more valuable than this
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>>539981108
That's only Boss Monsters
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I want to make greens about the hotland school. I think that would be interesting to write about, especially a story from the eyes of fuku fire or other students. I don't have any ideas though
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>>539980410
I don’t want to make things. Fuck Gerson, and fuck Toby too.
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>>539980410
sex with fave vn
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>>539981345
So you want to make Undertale 2 and you should do it Anon
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ok but what's the point of redoing the Hard Mode joke with Doghole?
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>>539981393
normalfaggot detected.
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>>539979646
You can't. It's a pure form of love.
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>>539980578
Reminder that one small mercy in your life is that, while you got permanent brain worms for a game fandom, you at least got them for the objectively best video game ever made, instead of FNAF or something
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>>539981197
>vindicated
It's like the "vindication" you feel when you make your normie friend play DaS1 and as soon as they reach Firelink you tell them about the secret room in the well and then they actually make the jump and quit and stop talking to you for a year.
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>>539981260
All adults are distinct people from their child selves.
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>>539980410
My own little quirky indie game to make me very rich from stealing ideas from other people!
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>>539981393
Take your own advice, fag.
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Show of hands is the most on the nose stuff like Hotland School have been taken from Deltarune
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>>539981345
>cringe
its an anonymous online image board. on 4chan, no one can perceive that the cringe is yours, and so sharing it freely is possible at no cost to yourself.
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>>539981537
He's right though this is the most inane bullshit ever
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>>539981393
I think you took my post too seriously anon...
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>>539980437
They're buddies!
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I'm so glad we've come to a consensus and can all agree that I won.
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Grandpa Gaster told Susie to never look outside on the night of a full moon because a giant Susiezilla roamed on those nights. She disobeyed him one time. She can't remember what happened after that, but she must have been attacked by the Susiezilla and Grandpa gave his life to defend her.
One night she was in the hospital after losing her tail in a waterslide accident and she looked out the window and noticed it was a full moon, but no Susiezilla ever showed up that night so maybe Grandpa took it with him.
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>>539981640
If it gets you to leave, you can be the single biggest winner in history.
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>>539980815
>>539980410
I sort of gave myself a job by trying to make a game for a very, very long time (3-4 years) but it tore me down a bit. Then I sat down, hammered out what I wanted, and got it to a MVP state after restarting fully (after many other painful restarts) in 2-3 months and now I just don't care for it. I put a lot of effort into it to finally realize that this likely isn't even possible, even if Toby's words do inspire.
I'm tired of staring at a scripting screen and sitting in my room, but I don't really know what else to do other than get a part time job or something. I've done other stuff besides this, but it's still painful to realize.
I haven't screwed my life up horribly, but it still sucks to sit down and finally go "Well... guess I'm just gonna get a job."
>>539980578
I didn't cry during the stream, just teared up, but when I re-read this after I burst into tears. It hurts so fucking much. God dude. Toby is THE best. This shit tears your fucking heart out.
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>>539981640
...is what you'd say if I didn't win.
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>>539980981
Who would win, these Joy mutant motherfuckers or a Scrapeface-grade Vessel?
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>>539981580
He’s not.
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>>539981640
Monsterfuckers won
Charasriel fags won
Alphys apologists won
Mettapants fags won, for some reason
Suzfags lost
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>>539981590
you can't even be jokingly angry in a board full of austistic people who can't read tone.
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>>539981180
what gets me is that
>a story that actually makes sense
already seems like striving for perfection to me
probably because life just doesnt and even my theories about how stories will continue or end is by now completely fucked by [spoilers]TWENTY FIVE YEARS in various fandoms[/spoilers] on the internet.
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>>539981424
>I don't have any ideas though
If you're an animefag you could try writing a Japanese style school festival but with monsters
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Still fuming that the entire stream was just stringing fans along for nothing. Showing off all the new content and not making it playable in any form is like taking a kid to a theme park but not letting them go on any rides. Not to mention Toby rigging the name vote.
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>* Where have the days gone.
>* I feel my pixelated skin burning.
>* I just wanted to play video games...
>* Did I do something wrong?

CYOA pt. 2 7pm AEST
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>>539981050
It's kinda implied in the lore that you can read in Waterfall: human supremacists were afraid of monster-human fusions, whether by breeding or by soul merging, considering them abominations and a threat. Susie might well be one of these...
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Spamton and Tenna were a human and monster couple, and Spamton left Tenna in underworld, and after that it was too late because of the barrier. Once the barrier is broken and Tenna gets to the surface to make up, Spamton is already on his death bed because humans age faster.

Tony told me to write it, so it must be true,
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>>539980410
I want Toby to stop making up excuses to continue being lazy.
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>>539981728
one spoiler works, more dont, everyone knows that
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>>539980990
Nothing I can do could prevent it, everything is dying no matter how hard I tried, I would do unspeakable things just to have closure on all things I lost, it's why this fight breaks me every single time, I would destroy everything just to have my brother back too
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game over dialogue for mr Sunshine and abberant
>case 0: "Happy 10th Anniversary to UNDERTALE!"
>case 1: "Haven't you learned anything over 10 years?"
>case 2: "Do you want to be Mrs. Sunshine?"
>case 3: "I guess you were the real aberrant."
sans
>case 0: "Stay determined!"
>case 1: "well, that works, i guess."
>case 2: "don't doze off..."
>case 3: "Really?"
>case 4: "well, getting to the last move\nwas good enough, right?"
>case 5: "look. i'm not mad. but why did you\nsuddenly walk out on the last move?"
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>>539981698
>Scrapeface-grade Vessel?
what?
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Toby kept mentioning all the homestuck roots specifically to make the anon that wrote the "ANDREW? ANDREW HUSSIE?"-copypasta upset.
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>>539981720
your ai sucks ass at doing this
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I got the sprites, I got the story, I got the dialogue and I got the characters
time to just create something i guess! Which means..... coding... and.... music.... FUCK
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>>539981825
Just make it yourself, Anon!
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>>539981828
WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER CYOAS MAY I SEE THEM
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>>539981825
He wants fans to implement the new content for him since it was just a vertical slice. There will probably be a mod for it on Gamejolt in a year or so.
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>>539981720
i don't respect you generally, temshit, but you will be a useful dog of war in deterring these tourists.
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>>539981968
Doubly ironic that Toby is pretending to like the community while shitting on Togore and not letting UTY release its soundtrack.
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>>539981886
Goners are very unnatural and spooky and glitchy and shit and the SOUL has shown some minor telekinetics even when using Kris, a vessel that doesn't have a dedicated Goner mode like the Vessel and actively tries to resist spooky shit.
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>>539981571
No Undertale had a point to make and a message, my fictional universe only exist so I can live out my fantasies and avoid thinking about the state of my fucked shitty life
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>coming up with names for threadshtters
why be a faggot
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>>539981951
But music is great fun, and coding is at least somewhat entertaining! Story, characters, and dialogue are literally incomprehensible magicks from an alient planet. You're basically already done...
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>>539982043
Based. Fuck the fans.
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>>539981883
>look. i'm not mad.
Sans is already bringing the stepdad energy
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>>539982043
you're like a broken record
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>>539981858
it's one thing everyone shares, in some small, comforting way. I'm usually just the type to get choked up at sad stuff but true pacifist was one of the few video game things that got me full on crying. happy I can still feel it, cheers anon.
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SUSIE’S MOM SHE’S….. certainly a character..
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I hope you all take a lesson from all of this, which is that you should totally play Brandish. But specifically the PC-98 version. And you should play the second one too. And the third one if you want but I'm not sure it's translated to English. You don't need to play the fourth one though
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>>539982081
>protect the past
Really making me think, actually. I mean, the past is always just records or memories, and memories change with revisting them, that's why records are so important. Doesn't
>protecting the past
then just mean
>have good backups and emulators
or
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>>539980410
my dream game. but its too ambitious of a concept. i think i could pare it down into a smaller scale point and click adventure in RPG Maker.
rn im mapping for duke nukem 3d and its fun
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>>539982081
you know that can BE the message right. that sometimes that kind of thing is okay, or that fiction can help you figure out things you wouldn't have gotten otherwise, or a discussion on if creating something is ultimately mischaracterizing it, etc etc etc.
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>>539982006
sorry anon, but a lot of them were made in 2022, and are lost to time. most files were lost in my old shitty laptop.
>>539891342
here's what happened yesterday. you can flick through the thread/previous thread for context.
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>>539980410
creating a story sounds fun but for now i am content in creating fanart for my favorite things. it makes me happy and it makes others happy. soon i'll amass enough skills to make a story but i am in no hurry.
i took a long walk around my neighborhood and listened to the piano collection and it hit me that by the time deltarune's 10 year anniversary rolls around i will have been enjoying toby's work for more than half my lifespan...
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>>539982016
Something about it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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>>539982016
You might be onto something with it being a vertical slice
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>>539982043
>not letting UTY release its soundtrack.
Why are Togorefags so retarded?
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>>539982203
>human
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>>539980737
NTA but I really wanna try my best and start a business now that I'm still young, see where it goes and what happens since I still have time... Everyone in my family has always yelled at me and treated me like garbage because of it despite all the times I remind them of how young I am and how most people my age won't be done with university until like in two more years. Now is my best time to start, I have this privilege of being able to try. I also have several options, I have certificates for multiple skills I've learned so it's not like my life is over and I'm unemployable if it doesn't work out, yet somehow the only thing everyone seems to want for me is to end up working at a shitty dead-end call center job just because.
Your post is somewhat comforting to me in its own strange way, anon.
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>>539982083
Well I guess coding isn't THAT hard after a while
Like it's basically a walking simulator rn tho
But the thing with the music is that I'm not even sure how to start on that :(
but you're right! The take-away from this was to do the things you'r setting out to do so I should get up and go back working on it!
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>>539982298
if you want my advice bulk up so they know not to fuck you with anymore it worked for me.
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A Sword of Dios transformation sequence but it's Kris putting the ThornRing on Noelle.
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>>539982229
well was this a different guy? I need more of these!
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>>539980410
I think right now I just want to make some more Deltarune and Undertale fanfic, especially after that massive lore drop by Gerson.
Tomorrow I'll think on some life stuff, but right now I need writing to feel better.
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Toby said the neutral ending phone call is inspired by Metal Gear Solid 2.
That was also the first MG game that awards you its highest rank by not killing anybody.
I guess that's not too uncommon in stealth type games, you can probably beat Thief 1 without killing anybody.
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>>539982016
>Do the rest of my work for me!
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>>539981842
What if half human pipis
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>>539982081
I think you're underestimating yourself. Everyone has things they care about that are reflected even in, say, lowbrow erotic fantasies. Your personal power fantasy reflects your own values and you could likely derive a message from it, especially if you trimmed the fat and constructed a narrative arc with it. Toby did something similar when he made his fever dream into Deltarune and then condensed it into Undertale. That's how a lot of creators make things, really.
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>>539982509
Undertale isn't really his work anymore. The game's been finished for ten years
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I'm late catching up with this but Toby hinting at Sans and Alphys and showing their connection by Alphys being into Asgore and Sans being into Toriel is something I genuinely never thought about before and it's breaking my brain.
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>>539982081
you might be missing the forest for the trees if you think no one can chisel out a message from any story. don't worry about it and create, the meaning will materialize in front of you. not every writer starts with "what is my end message".
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>toby says that he considers the canon malleable to the point that fanon created to fill in the blanks of the undertale setting are just as meaningful as what he creates for things like the stream
my old save file that i left on the asriel fight so that he could stay god forever and rule over his own universe is its own distinct undertale timeline. asrielbros, we are so back
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>>539982427
oh yeah, that was mine too. i'm still thinking about how i can continue that story. i've started making a few custom darkworlds, but they'll take time.
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>>539982332
>not even sure how to start on that
Just go to https://onlinesequencer.net/ and click random things until it starts making sense. If you already know that much there's nothing you still need to learn.
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S to spit on Toby Fox
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>>539982209
Is this one of those games where you select the strongest attack over and over?
I can't stand that old style of RPG. Dragon Quest, FF, even Chrono Trigger unfortunately. They're essentially all the same game and the gameplay isn't interesting enough to sustain one playthrough out of the whole batch. I appreciate some of them for their other qualities but the actual battle system in most of them is so dreadful.
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>>539982209
Fuck off and work on Deltarune, Toby. I'll play Brandish once you finish your game.
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>>539982346
Won't work, I'm a womanlet of womanlets. If I did bulk up I would only get mocked even more but I appreciate the advice.
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>>539982618
I parry your spit and then input T to give him a thumbs up
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>>539982573
It's about the man he won't talk about
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>Toby didn't dress up as Gaster and have sex with a Roaring Knight cosplayer on stream while screaming THIRD ENTITY at the top of his lungs
What a waste of a stream
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>>539982668
learn judo then being short actually helps throwing people in it.
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>>539982618
hot
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>>539982682
I press U to make your thumbs up and upside down thumbs up.
Thumbs DOWN.
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>>539982593
Mercedes-Benz will never catch her appointment at this rate, especially if I miss it like I thought I did
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>>539982668
bulk up so you can pick up your fave and amazon style fuck him
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>>539982509
He's busy working on a better game.
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>>539982668
Show breasts
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Quick make a slur for human-monster offspring
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How does Temmie feel about Toby nowadays on a scale of 1 to 100
Toby saying he searched for "hoi" in the last 4 years of their DMs and got 0 results suggests they do DM at least occasionally
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what’s up with the spammers and other fags they don’t usually come here
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>>539982016
>>539982254
Its absolutely a vertical slice, the guy holding the controller definitely got too close to the north path in the dog maze and hit the invisible wall instead of stopping naturally and broke the illusion in that moment for me
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>>539982693
Yes there's that but it also confirms Sans is a chubby chaser
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The added lore by gerson makes the human monster war sus because all you need is one chara to side with the monsters. Chara like humans would willingky give their souls to monsters.
>but mutual assured destruction
If america invades north korea, and russia right now, both of these countries would send the nukes, if they started losing badly. Desperate monsters + humans wouldnt necessarily be different
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>>539982668
>womanlet of womanlets.
How short?
How flat?
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>>539982668
Everyone gets mocked by someone, but buff shortstacks make some people very excited.
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>>539982618
Yeah I'll spit on his dick and then jerk him off
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>>539982876
muties >:)
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Is it a stupid or bad idea to maybe turn my game idea into a book instead? programming hasn't really worked out and while I can play the piano, I can't get myself to really try and make music. I do deeply enjoy writing however and people like what I write a lot and always tell me to do it more.
It would be easier overall I think, likely more fulfilling, but then it isn't a game...
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>the underground is much larger than what is shown in the game
>flowey still saw it all and did everything possible over and over again until he got sick of existing
Just how long did this poor bastard have to keep living for?
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Reading my chapter of the book we've been going through aloud to Asgore when I notice a shadow overtake me and look up to find him standing over my chair with a peculiar look in his eyes directed at me, but before I could ask if something was wrong he slowly leans down to put his hands on both of my armrests and gradually brings his cheek to mine as he whispers "right here, right now" after which he puts his hand on my own to guide the book closed and place it on the side table. Attempting to play Johnny Cash's version of "(Ghost) Riders in the Sky" to Asgore on his lap when my voice cracks badly enough that I feel him choke back a giggle into my back, which then causes my singing to give way completely into laughter that is quickly joined by his own (I actually managed to get him to use his beautiful voice on the next attempt, even despite his unnecessary shyness about it). Laying my head on Asgore's tummy while we watch a random cooking show that is currently showing how to make cannolis and twirling my finger in the soft fluff of his stomach as his arm is wrapped around my torso to secure me in place at his side, all the while I'm brainstorming a way to tell him that I believe he is utterly perfect in all physical aspects without coming off as weird or it feeling like I'm objectifying him (I eventually settled on blurting out "I really love your fur," nailed it)
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>>539982881
im pretty sure they did karaokee when temmie did it in japan
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>>539982903
More like how FAT because she's probably built like Alphys
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>>539982897
anon look at what happened with asriel and chara
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>>539982876
Semi
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>>539982930
It doesn't need to be a game, anon. If it'd work better as a book, let it be a book
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Chara was a filthy little monster descendant whose horrid genes gave them red eyes so they had to be PUNISHED
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>>539982930
if you just want to tell a story it wouldn't hurt, a lot of games that get praised for their writing aren't cited for being fun games to play
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>>539982930
You could try to team up with a depressed code monkey and a starving musician too.
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>>539982653
It's an action RPG. It has its own problems.
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>>539982889
I mean it's so on the nose about what 100% is just from Ch 5 or later like the whole school and Bird mom
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>>539982209
Will do, it looks cozy
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>>539983009
that was a child human and a crybaby monster that didnt want to kill. Get a undyne style monster monster + a adult chara and things would be very different
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>Toby says Alphys is one of his favorite characters
>Implies Susie is like Undyne and has a thing for shy girls
Chapter 5 is going to fucking suck isn't it
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>>539982930
Make the book then using your success assemble a team to make a game from the book
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>>539983069
Anon, Hotland High school is never going to appear in Deltarune.
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>>539982298
like 99.999 percent of everyone who has ever lived has been a random schmuck who did their contemporary equivalent of, like, working at walmart their entire lives. lets guesstimate a solid fraction of them actually ASPIRED to be anything more than that. now you're ahead of the pack. if you have the OPPORTUNITY to work on those aspirations, then that puts you ahead even further. you're right, you do have a head start even if you feel like a nonstarter.
i got into nursing, and even in my mid 20s at the time i was among the younger people in my class. sure there was a good amount of twentysomethings but there was also a shitload of people in like their 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond. these people were starting completely over, an entire new career field, from scratch. being in your 20s is nothing
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>>539982876
Haafu
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>>539982930
just make it a visual novel theres an engine that was used for snootgame and ddlc that was intentionally designed to be easy to use.
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Is there any point in continuing to bother with these games?
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>>539982886
They don't want us to have a comfy discussion about the stream, they just want to ruin it for the rest of us.
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>Asriel's Bat
Toby.....
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>>539956426
I was right and I fucking hate it. even if none of this is canon WE still want to explore what YOU made!!! you dragged us around by our cocks and then you go "use your imagination. none of what I showed you matters"
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>>539983139
Did it called itself "Hotland High school" because i forgot
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>>539982951
Too long but also not long enough
it's groundhog day
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>>539982573
It's interesting that he seems to have put a lot of thought into their relationship and how they'd interact if things were slightly different, for something that's so understated in the actual game
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>>539982726
I know a little bit of Judo and a few martial arts from when I was younger, does that count?
>>539982775
I can pick up the family's old bigass CRT without much issue, I think I'm good
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I'm grateful and all, but what exactly inspired Toby to get out of bed one day and go "I NEED to confirm humans and furries fucked each other in Undertale history"
>>539983205
One person on the couch even called it "HH" and another said "you might not want to say that on broadcast" or something lmao
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>>539980410
I want to be a voice actor or an artist
but I'm not capacity of dealing with the tedium of art and I'm too autistic and mentally ill to deal with the networking to be a voice actor
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>>539983203
it's time to move on
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>>539983240
MY FUARKING HERO
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>>539983052
>depressed code monkey
That's me anon. I tried to do it all on my own and man, that doesn't work. Toby even says he had support which I didn't.
>>539983029 >>539983051 >>539983115
I guess. I tried a lot of stuff and it didn't really work out and I think only some of it would work in a game, but maybe a sort of book would be better. Something that hammers out the entire story and gets everything down in a better way.
>>539983152
HELL NO! I'd rather kill myself, even if that is unfair to VLR or AA.
>>539982959
Thank you Asgore loving anon.
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>>539983270
well keep it up. thanks to your center of gravity and being short you can literally suplex a taller person very easily.
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>>539983286
To be fair i don't take small talk like that as canon
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>>539983110
Don't worry, Toby must recognize that the crush is extremely one-sided and has no chemistry because he's the one who wrote it, it's just being set up to be subverted at least I really hope so
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>>539983286
I like the moment where one couch guy accidentally said the Sans fight donation goal is 88,000 dollars and another couch guy corrected him.
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>>539983286
probably has to establish that monsters and humans really can coexist in a meaningful way in order for the world of Deltarune to be possible. believe it or not there was still plenty of people who reasoned that the very concept of SOUL absorption meant that all it would take was one monster finding a human to rape and then they would turn into Freeza. the new gerson lore establishes that even when things went to shit it wasnt some desperate fight for survival and still didnt necessarily even need to happen. so, in Deltarune, it just... didnt
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>>539983110
but quiet people piss her off
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>>539982930
You could split the difference and make a VN. There are really simple VN engines that don't require significant coding skill. That being said, you should try writing it as a book first, then you can switch to a VN if it feels right to do so. The most important thing is to put your ideas into action so you get in the flow. Try posting on online fiction sites like Royal Road if you want to reach an audience. AO3 also allows original works.
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Did (you)r submission appear on the stream /utg/?????
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>>539983286
Because everyone knew it was canon
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Post Pippinses, Shadowguys, and Zappers, and call me “ma’am” while you do.
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>>539983532
no siree ha ha ha ha
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>people were actually seething because toby used the wrong pronouns for characters yesterday
how is this the most sane place to talk about the games?
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Who wants to make a fat fetish Spamton and Tenna game with me
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>>539983286
>I'm grateful and all, but what exactly inspired Toby to get out of bed one day and go "I NEED to confirm humans and furries fucked each other in Undertale history"
To foreshadow the canon pairing of Noelle X Kris
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>>539983110
I'm already mentally preparing myself for the worst.
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>>539983573
>>539983574
lmao
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>>539983454
>all it would take was one monster finding a human to rape and then they would turn into Freeza.
anons were not arguing that the majority of humans and monsters cant coexist with each other. Anons were arguing that it would just take one bad monster to gather multiple souls and then fuck everything up.
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>>539983573
those people literally will never be happy and kill you over a mistake
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>>539983532
I'm not indulging you in your fetish sorry. You gotta pay me.
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I can't wait to see all the art that comes out of the new Gerson lore. There's so many possibilities here that are both heartwarming and heartwrenching.
>>539983468
I've made a lot of fanfic recently and it's done pretty damn well on AO3. Even had some friends I knew that wrote fanfic before say they were a little jealous.
I could try making it into a book even if I don't know how some things will work. At least that's far more possible for me.
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>>539983573
>>539983574
put me in the screencap
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>>539983574
I'm a programmer, what sort of gameplay do you have in mind?
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There is a really itchy spot on the sole of my left foot.
Why might this be?
It's hard to scratch because I'm ticklish.
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>>539983573
>>539983574
this is why this place is still cool
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>>539983592
Susie is Gerson's disciple so it's foreshadowing Krusie. Noelle will watch from the chair.
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>>539983714
use something not sharp or put lotion in it. It gets rid of itchy spots
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>>539983596
I feed all of the pronouns to my fatty fat email and TV guys so we can discuss more important things, like simulating Darkner weight gain and breeding in a text adventure. Dating sim? VN? Basebuilder management "virtual pet" game?
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>>539983270
tenna vs a shortstack
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>>539983574
Let's make it a grand strategy or 4X game.
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>>539983573
>>539983674
Are the people seething and killing you in the room with us right now...?
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>>539978608
I thought we were actually going to get some ludokino for a second before it became just another nothing burger.
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>>539983685
I wonder what they would draw younger Gerson like
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>>539983659
yeah. exactly. so then the war became somewhat reasonable and necessary, it was pre-emptive self defense because the bar for mass human subjugation or extinction was so low. now we know that even at our lowest, we were still never really concerned that monsters were going to rape us for one reason or another and the war definitively did not have to happen once and for all
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>>539983224
but bill murray pushed through the nihilism and eventually became a benevolent and loving force, and that was (probably?) let him escape the eternal cycle of restart and return

and also there was that one character who seemed to act a little incongruously for someone with no sense that the loops were occurring in the form of his piano teacher

MAKES YOU THINK THOUGHTS
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>>539980410
Small projects iterative of others, whether its fanfiction for Undertale or decks for card games, I've not the spark to truly play god.

>>539983286
A good chunk of that and the Chara aspects feel like Toby wanted to clarify parts the fandom got annoying about because Toby didn't hard-confirm either way in the game proper. Whether it was Asriel actually caring about Chara, Narra Chara/SAVE-ing Chara, why humans are magic-less babies in the post TP cutscene, etc.

Good night /utg/, hope you all have comfy dreams of fave and get to make the most of tomorrow.

I love Chara
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>>539983714
>Why might this be?
Calluses drying out.
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>>539983197
Yeah his big baseball bat sized cock
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>>539983454
the humans still completely destroy the monsters, monsters are so gimmick it’s insane
>their physical strength is directly tied to their emotional state so saying fuck you to the write monster fucking no diffs them
and humans can just say fuck off to dying
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Genuinely I want to make my own stuff too but right now I’m genuinely confused as to where do you even get sounds effects from, cause I feel like I’ve never seen a recommendation for starting packs
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>>539983925
God, yes
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archive is already up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS903HbnfWg
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Snowy doesn't know this but he's 1/64th human.
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>>539983685
I've seen people use AO3 to post interactive stories by fucking around with custom work skins. If that's too much coding, you could also do the classic Choose Your Own Adventure book thing of "go to chapter 4 if you pick X, go to chapter 5 if you pick Y." That level of interactivity might be enough to carry the some of your game ideas, depending on what you had in mind.
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>>539983987
thank you
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>>539983874
The twist is that Bill Murray in GHD didn't become a benevolent and loving force, he just stopped putting rocks into his own path and properly aligned his actions with his selfish desires.
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>>539983810
no unsurprisingly they usually take residence on xitter
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>>539983681
I’ll pay you in fave pics?
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>>539983358
Will keep it up! Once I get a little more sorted I wanna pick up boxing next actually since there's a gym really close to home and I've been finding I need distractions more and more lately.
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>>539983759
Degrees of Lewdity clone but with weight gain stats
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Was Gerson cheating on ms Boom?
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>>539983791
Feels overly ambitious to make, but cool as a concept. It could be Spamton and Tenna working together to grow TV World and competing with other factions and Dark Worlds, while getting bigger as they gain power, along with the TV denizens
or fuck it theyre so fat they are your home bases and you have to feed them to occupy territory lol
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So with the charity going to MSF.
When UT was written were the monsters an allegories for Jews or Palestinians?
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>>539983859
> we were still never really concerned that monsters were going to rape us for one reason or another and the war definitively did not have to happen once and for all
I need to think about that because Im unsure of that. excuse me im going to reanalyze gersons texts
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The Switch 2 version of the Mike fight is the best version of that fight and also the most fun fight in the entire game.
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>>539984008
comicfury could be better for that
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>>539984119
you can only ever be in one relationship especially if you are an a thousand year old turtle man
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>>539984119
considering there is no Alvin in UT the human probably was Ms Boom
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so what was the war about if it wasn't about humans fearing that monsters would take their soul?
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One thing I didn't notice people talking about is when Alphys asks if Toriel and Asgore might get back together, the couch selected "yes".
Probably nothing obviously but I expected you guys to speculate a little more about it
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>>539984236
Did they just always default to picking the “nice” options? I would t read into it.
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>>539983140
Thanks for the extra motivation anon, really bothers me how everyone's been treating this whole thing as if I were 40 and went my whole life unemployed. I really needed this tonight.
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>>539984210
who’s saying it’s that not that Gerson just says there’s more to it.
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>>539982601
cute.
https://voca.ro/174ubCypjEqS
well the best way to learn how to swim is to jump in the water... thanks tho.
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>>539984210
It was about the fact that if it ever did happen the hypothetical monster would be too powerful
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>>539984119
Ms. Boom is Alvin's older sister, not his mom. "Ms." means she's unmarried. I've seen anons claim it's because she's a widow, but I've never known a widow who switched from Mrs. to Ms.
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>>539984236
Fox hates traditional families so no wholesome family for you. Enjoy Undyne X Alphys and Noelle X Susie doe
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>>539984210
Putin did it.
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>>539984210
What the hell was the war in Afghanistan about? Especially at the start vs going on so long?
Same deal
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>>539984381
cattenheimers gg no re
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alright, so for the cyoa i'm doing later on, i'm making some fucked up looking kris designs. anybody got ideas for how i could twist the template up? send me some references, or write out some ideas. spooky scary kris-letons.
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>>539983697
something that lends itself to weight gain and interactivity, at least a text adventure or VN, there's ones in Twine with weight and digestion systems with modular body part gain and proportions
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>>539983767
Is this your fetish?
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>>539984429
I thought the British did it?
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>>539982881
>Temmie: Heh, I like dogs. Dogs are cute!
>Toby Fox completely organically and unprompted
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>>539983448
There's going to be a bunch of boring Suselle scenes at the Festival until they're finally about to confess to each other, when suddenly it turns into the Eclipse but with Jockington as Griffith and Noelle as Casca. She won't actually get raped obviously, but she'll be left in a broken state after being repeatedly stabbed with thorns by Jockington while he says things like "I guess wi'll Say, that you're are 'The Ball', and I've made, and interceptio'n!" And of course Susie will be forced to watch the entire time.
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>>539984381
cattys family is once again forgotten
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>>539984429
>SOULs are oil
Makes sense
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>>539984508
>catty
Who????
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>>539984503
I believe this
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>>539984503
>>539984630
Something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZf8RKAjYTw
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I feel moderately vindicates noticing that Asriel and Monster Kid had that same
>Chara/Undyne wasn’t the greatest person
thing going on, and Undyne clearly isn’t a pure murderhobo
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>>539984460
a kris that's just slightly off would be good. shift the pixels in slightly different ways. twitchy ones. ones that are there in the thumbnail but not in the actual gif/pic. etc.
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Most people are incapable of creating anything at all. Most people who can create can't create anything good. Then you have the born talents who make an instant megasuccess like Undertale was. All that "oh thank you for your support" stuff with the portraits and fan testimonies and blah blah blah felt disingenuous.
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>>539984618
The chick with the great big breasts
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>>539984471
me? I'm just a riverperson. maybe it's yours
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>>539984460
how about exaggerated goat traits for one like how shope papillomavirus effects rabbits
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>>539984703
chara was a murderous hateful bitch and even asriel knows it. got them both killed just so they could go back and fuck up a village. this one's a no-go
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>>539984712
Holy sour grapes
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I both love and hate moments like today where it feels like a veil over my eyes was lifted and I sit down to look at my life and what I’m doing. Where that drive of creation is sparked again, even after being beaten down so many times.
I want to make something and it’s amazing to see so many others inspired at the same time, but I’m afraid this drive will die again soon like it always does. Perhaps if I just remember this moment and how it made me feel, it’ll keep it alive.
I thought Undertale didn’t mean much to me anymore due tp Deltarune, but I guess it does.
Goodnight.
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>>539984786
The village was actually /utg/ so they deserved it
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>>539984712
It's simultaneously true that Toby Fox is immensely more talented than the average person but also that he was immensely more lucky than the average talented person.
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>>539980186
>Hello Kitty is... le bad!
>(Plus sneeding and playing victim about the nukes.)
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>>539984712
boo hoo, you cant create an international smash hit video game. you'll never be a superstar on a stream with tens of thousands of viewers trying to get your attention. better just fucking give up, then
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>>539984704
gonna have lots of twitchers. i like the idea of a couple of kris' begging to be seen, but failing to show up in the actual gif.
>>539984761
oooh, sounds funky. i'll see what i can do.
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Big win for Battenna fans
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Humans declared war on monsters because the monsters made it illegal to farm Temmie Flakes, and the humans needed to keep the farming of Temmie Flakes going so that their intelligence agencies could keep operating the global trade of them. The humans eventually sent Frisk down to "end the war" because synthetic Temmie Flake alternatives started becoming more economically viable than the ones produced from plant materials, so it didn't matter as much anymore.
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>>539984786
You lost.
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>>539984326
Actually cute melody and I just now caught myself transcribing it to show off how I actually know music but now I feel bad about working on someone else's stuff instead of uhh actually doing anything at all for myself. Like uhh, eating. Cause I haven't done that in almost a day whoops.
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>>539984703
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>>539984925
Don't talk to me until you can form a coherent thought instead of this memebabble
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>>539985065
but moooooom
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toby really is the biggest chara waifufag of all time
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Japan kvetching about the nukes is so eye rolling to me. Like yes it was horrible and not strictly necessary but you were unironically asking for it.
They might be the most "can dish it but not take it" country ever besides USA and Israel
said fave
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>>539984127
Actually that sounds like it should be Factorio and you're Spamton and instead of building a rocket to leave the planet you're building industry to turn everything into TV dinners.
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>>539985053
>chara dead
>asriel alive
I won harder than you can ever imagine
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Toby confirming that Asriel saying Chara wasn't the greatest person was just them being tsundere is the soothing balm my soul needed after years of being told it meant that Chara was actually evil and irredeemable.
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>>539985117
Fave wouldn't say that. Toby loves Japan and so do all his characters.
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>>539985054
no you can! Do it! show me what you do with it! I made it on a whim lol
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>>539985186
thats not what happened he was making a joke the moment Toby talked about was literally when he thought frisk was chara
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Togore JOBBED like a little BITCH
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Damn now i wanna make music but im very eepy....
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Imagine this: Pippins fangame
What would it be about?
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>>539985186
cope
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Obviously the fandom can't into nuance, but I think it's reasonable and even fine writing for Asriel to simultaneously pine for his best friend and have a moment of clarity that said friend roped him into a murder suicide pact and tested poison on Asriel's dad.
That's just how life is, man. Emotions are complicated.
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>>539985170
Flowey isn't Asriel
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>>539985258
HE SAID WE'RE ALSO SAVING CHARA AND CHARA IS A PART OF ASRIEL AT THAT POINT
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>>539985359
Anon, Deltarune exists.
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>>539985316
puzzle game about increasingly comical and convoluted ways to cheat
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you know despite all the tourists and threadshitters and such we're having a surprisingly healthy thread. no gender debate, no avatarfags, etc
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>>539985369
actually we’re saving the part of chara in asriel.
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I can't believe Chara was larping as the monsters and you save Chara when all their larps are part of Asriel
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>>539985316
Gambling obviously. You could do gacha pulls for all the fan-Pippins.
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My gender is Froggit btw
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>>539985427
Don't jinx it, anon.
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>>539985407
sooooooooo...
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I'm glad Undertale is still legal to sell under current US regime
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>>539985401
If you're counting Deltarune then Kris is just Frisk and Chara's fusion.
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>>539985359
even without deltarune toby as of this stream considers asriel to have spent all this time growing up without chara. if they both died at the same time then that line obviously wouldnt exist. flowey is asriel shaped and warped by what he went through but he is clearly still asriel as an adult
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>>539985369
How is Chara "part of Asriel"? Asriel being possessed by Chara would just raise more questions. Unless it's just Asriel's conception of Chara inside Asriel, in which case all supposed points against Chara being evil are moot since conceptions can be mistaken.
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>>539985316
What about one where you start an illegal business while trying not to be caught?
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>>539985554
Asriel himself disagrees and Toby didn't change that dialogue.
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So, would it be better to open your book saying the main character is an (anthromorphic) bunny or suddenly drop it on the reader in the middle of the book when they look into a mirror and actually at themselves?
Screw you it’s UT/DR related because Toby gave me Hope again. Even if I never make anything of myself, I’ll have Undertale and Deltarune.
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If you save Chara in the Asriel battle, why does it not cancel out genocide and why is it unchanged after genocide? This is not a rhetorical question, this is me questioning Tobert's writing.
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Spamton? FULL of french fries yumyum.
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>>539985316
RPG faction (playing as a Pippins who gets separated from party and must survive)
Gambler faction (playing as a Pippins working in a shady game parlor, Yakuza parody)
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>>539985160
It could be a mod/conversion for Factorio, I haven't played it myself but afaik it has livestock farming and logistics. Looking up mods I just found some food with player buffs and frozen food shipping ones.
That would be a larger scope, I feel, maybe an erotic Dark World management sim where you can expand multiple Darkners.
More realistically, maybe a game where you focus on Spamton and Tenna themselves. The scenarios could be:
>Lightner who has to take care of them after they got into the Light World somehow
>Darkner who gets involved with them
>Go(o)ner who works for a certain Royal Scientist and has them end up in the void laboratory, runs experiments on them while they stay as test subjects in exchange for not petrifying
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>>539985520
Someone should make a mod for this game. Not me though.
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>>539985310
Okay i decided to make a quick thing.
https://voca.ro/11MGkgfOF8Jm
Tell me if its shit or not idk i tried my best
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I want to make stuff but I just can't handle the tedium
like I want to draw but trying to actually learn how to do it makes me want to fucking kill myself
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>>539985316
a simple selection of minigames
the card game "bullshit" but each pippins has a unique chance to cheat/lie, and a chance to accuse you of lying
pig, the dice game
slots with their heads, jackpot being tenna
a small VN section where you can choose two pippins to play poker with and see their interactions
>choose KT and fujo: they start insulting each other
>choose yume and guro: yume asks how guro is doing and guro starts sperging out saying that she's fine but then cries about fujo and knocks the table over
>choose yippins and katana: yippins doesn't know how poker works, and katana slashes the table after he gets a mysterious call...
the poker VN is theoretically the easiest thing to code
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I donated $10.50 at the very end so that I can say I donated to the UT 10th anniversary stream
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>>539985649
Asriel thinks he's going to turn back into a murderous psychopath and wants to be dissociated conceptually from Flowey. He's coping. But Flowey in the alarm clock is still bonding and forming friendships so there's no real need to maintain that disassociation despite Asriel's fear of what he'd become. He has wants and desires, and need for companionship
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>>539985663
Asriel is in control in Genocide both Frisk and Chara have control
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>>539980410
some sort of game that i always wanted to play as a kid
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I don’t know what this form of humor is called but the crew never actually acknowledging things like Noelle behind the tree or the colored door made me giggle like an idiot, I like it when something off is happening but it’s like it’s all invisible
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>>539985663
Chara is just a massive prick who needs to be 100% dead to find peace
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Reminder that Togore didn't need rigging from toby both in donations and propaganda in order to surpass chara for litrally most of the game
She only did a comeback when Toby started shilling
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>>539985652
>suddenly drop it on the reader in the middle of the book when they look into a mirror and actually at themselves
That would be unironically cool and would make a big impression. You should try to foreshadow it a bit before that point though. Like mentioning that they're strictly vegetarian, maybe an allusion to having fur, etc. So when it's revealed, the reader can make connections to those details.
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>>539985663
considering this was just random stream of thought TTS babble from toby i honestly dont think it should be taken as word from god on undertale canon unless you're a really desperate charafag willing to ignore the whole bit about chara hating everyone and sacrificing asriel in order to act on it
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>>539985892
blah blah blah Chara won Togore lost
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At some point in the last few years (well, upon graduating) my creative ambitions were completely supplanted by the desire for money.
I unironically get excited about getting more work assigned at my job because it broadens my experience & qualifications and prepares me for a promotion that will make more money.
I'm anxious about money all the time. Sometimes I open my finances app and just look at my 401k
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>>539985773
You should get into podcasts or audiobooks so you have something else to occupy you while you work. That or get checked out for ADHD.
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>>539985748
Basically already half an Aphex Twin song.
>>539985238
Sorry, perfectionism won and I am sad again now.
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>>539986030
I did get checked out
I got no help
the medical system is a sham
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>>539985785
The VN idea sounds like so much fun, I'd unironically draw all art for it if someone picked up the coding part. It would be really nice if after completing all the 'routes' they all tied in together in some form.
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>>539985938
True, but I still resent Tobert reviving 2015 flame wars only to not add anything of substance and just reveal how limited his writing was.
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>>539985892
i used to care but now i dont. it doesnt really matter all that much. if you like togore so much he still got immortalized throughout the stream. all you can do is find some sort of success in that. its not like you were ever going to get anything more than that out of it no?
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Togore's literal autism vs. Chara being a hateful little shithead, who would win in a fight
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>>539986016
Feed all that green to your old pal spamton
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>>539986030
>get checked out for ADHD.
ADHD meds gave me Homestuck psychosis and I didn't even read Homestuck.
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>>539985884
>I like it when something off is happening but it’s like it’s all invisible
Me too. I like how people often act like a talking bear is unremarkable in the Paddington movies.
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>>539986109
It doesn't lol
the truth is that BOTH won but it's fun to fake-fight besides I mean I didn't donate a dime anyways lmao
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This image flashes only during the Cyan soul part of the flowey fight on the left of the screen during the stream. It looks like a ticket going in a ballet box

Remember Kris's Trip Ticket that gets you to Mancountry? "Left of a red X". Kris's X-actions, X-Slash, and "Kris Cross Applesauce"

Cyan Kris is basically confirmed
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Noelle, my beloved
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Chasriel plapping won :)
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>>539985898
I think it would be awesome… but also there’s other anthromorphic characters around so it doesn’t make much sense to really hide it, except it also does because well, if the book is entirely from his perspective in both first and third person, why would it be brought up until he actually observes himself?
>>539986016
That’s rough man. I think this is a big sign you need a hobby or something to take your mind off work. Not something to dump money into, just to do besides work.
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Did Toby regret making orange and cyan attacks? They're not in Deltarune at all. But the new enemies in Undertale have them.
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Tobert was straight up making fun of Hyperdeath Asriel for not realizing how bad Chara was to him with the "rainbow lasers" line, how are people trying to force this into a narrative where Tobert said Chara was a goodguy and the villagers deserved it?
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>>539985773
then dont draw? maybe its not for you? despite how twitter acts the measure of success in life doesnt revolve around drawing things. if you're still desperately in need of a creative outlet then try writing, making a game, pixel art, or modelling, animating, music, etc... but not everyone is destined, or needs, to be an artist at all. i think if it was in the cards for you you'd just find yourself naturally gravitating in that direction. itd be its own reward
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Chara x Asriel and Frisk x Togore double date night...... Aren't Asgore and Toriel conflicted about the non-incestous incest going on in their family?
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>>539986252
>how are people trying to force this into a narrative where Tobert said Chara was a goodguy and the villagers deserved it?
this sounds like a take only an ESL would have
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Toy Fox confirms that Deltarune is there were once they are did.
The game became the first ever to have the first of that when Deltarune began.
Congratulations Toby Fox!
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>>539982591
You can't save in the Asriel fight, Anon.
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>>539986260
are you an artist?
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>>539985663
I would say its because True Resets are meant to be more powerful than Resets, but Chara still does the le spooky cross out faces on photos shit in fake pacifist despite being re-saved so I have no clue
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I feel bad for Toby because he'll poke fun at his own game and people will be like "TOBY HATES THIS TOBY LOVES THAT" and take it 100% serious
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>>539986236
He coded them in and they were gonna appear in Chapter 4, but for some reason they were cut at the last moment. I'm guessing he's waiting for the right opportunity to have it show up in a mandatory story battle but he hasn't found a way to integrate them in a way that seems natural and also acts as a tutorial for people who forgot how they work.
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i like writing :)
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>No Suzy
>No Catti
>No Jockington
>Yes Noelle
>Kinda Berdly
>Obviously no Kris
Suzy is interesting due to being used to foreshadow Deltarune
And Catti could have been referenced by saying the little white cat Catty was petting was her sister instead of the Annoying Dog
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>>539986016
It's good that your job makes you happy in some way. The anxiety part doesn't sound so good though. You should try to at least break that particular compulsive habit and maybe look into ways to cope with anxiety. It sounds like external motivation is important for you; maybe you could try something like 4thewords to motivate you to write and be creative again.
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>>539984460
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>>539986252
How did you manage to get the total opposite message of everything Toby said?
He literally said Hyperdeath Asriel is cool and meant to be cool.
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>>539986260
I like voice acting but I have no outlet for it
same with playing music, also because i can't play by ear and can't make myself learn

I only get the "its own reward" feelings from playing fighting games
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>>539986428
>All the people who still think Toby unironically believes FUCK YOU FOR PLAYING MY GAME
I don’t understand them
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>>539986370
thats souless pacisift aka pacifist AFTER you give your soul to Chara
so I assume that's why
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>>539986517
anon is this a joke?
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>>539986089
i'll brainstorm and drop a pastebin in a few days if i don't get bored but everyone is free to contribute their ideas and combinations
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>>539986529
can't believe toby condemns violence in all video games ever made.
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what do you guys feel like people aren’t talking enough about
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>>539986073
The medical system is basically just gambling. You have to keep trying until a you get a lucky pull, AKA a doctor that actually does their job. It really sucks. I hope you can get help some day.
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>>539986575
But you still have to save her in true pacifist after that anyway? What would "SAVE"-ing do for her if not remove all that malice from her?
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>>539986529
This whole anniversary stream situation has filled my timelines with so many people acting like toby is trolling people when he himself talked about how it's just meant to show the the world is so much bigger then what we saw and there's so much more that the player can imagine exists.

People just NEED to imagine toby as a sentient troll face.
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>>539986524
>I only get the "its own reward" feelings from playing fighting games
As someone who kinda accidentally learned playing by ear (and then forgot again due to illness taking me away from the instrument for a long time), this seems extremely weird to me because fighting games are like, the literal exact opposite of its own reward to me
like, winning in a fighting game is just making someone else lose and that's terrible
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>>539986632
Asgore
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>>539986145
Can you give me some? I read Homestuck so I'm hoping it will have the opposite effect for me.
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>>539986529
I get this vibe it started ironically but like every ironic joke, dumbfucks started rolling with it seriously and twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify it rather than admitting they got rused by a joke.
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>>539986632
The fact that we now have canonical dialogue for Frisk (That's not Super Mario)
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>>539986632
i'm wondering about kris wanting magic and if it at all will relate to humans sacrificing theirs in UT but that goddamn bird is in the way of more books
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>>539986706
It's the Homestuck references. Everyone knows that everyone who ever heard of Homestuck secretly stans Vriska which is why no one can trust any creator to be sincere anymore.
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>>539986689
She is just playing along so you get the happy ending
She WANTS you to do pacifist after geno so that she can cross to the surface using you as a vessel
cuz then she'll be able to kill absolutely EVERYONE in the surface
at least thats how i see it!
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>>539986632
catty's massive jahoobies
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>>539986632
When I saw that coral town I couldn't help but think of Onionsan talking about sound in the sea in Deltarune.
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>>539986173
Cyan Krisfags won
Charasrielfags won
Monsterfuckers won
Spamtonfags won
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>>539986768
what
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I honesty wonder how much of Toby’s Chara bias is related to Kris’s similarly weird behaviors, like the knife fetish
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>>539986632
the wizard human
the lumberjack
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>>539986880
BASED BASED BASED
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>>539986885
>Cyan Krisfags won
wait what? i totally missed this when was it brought up?
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>>539986632
the deltarune chapter 4 cryptic questions
>man with one eye appeared in the true lab
>angel made its cry (pink sea angel in the underwater area looked like angel or girl from the prophecy)
>girl who snows (noelle behind tree)
undertale is the "other side of your mind." did you miss something there?
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>>539979253
>>539982043
I'm just happy all the "Chara doesn't have a canon name, here is an out-of-context mail by Tobert that doesn't actually say Chara isn't their canon name, ignore that Chara themself calls it the true name in the game itself" cucks were BTFO'd.
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i'm kinda shocked there were zero Suzy references.
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>>539986863
>She is just playing along so you get the happy ending
Her being saved is the catalyst to Asriel letting up though, so I have no idea how she would fake it enough to achieve the same effect when, in her mind, the scenario has never happened until just then
>cuz then she'll be able to kill absolutely EVERYONE in the surface
unrelated to the point but yeah good fucking luck with that little bitch theres no save points outside the underground so my soul was worth jack
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>>539986524
>but I have no outlet for it
Try fandubbing stuff maybe? There's also "podfics," basically fanmade audiobooks for fanfics. Or you could also just read shitposts in a funny voice and upload it. ProZD did that and now he's a professional voice actor.
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>>539986365
so i'd better not load up ever again or i'd revert the timeline back to before his ascendance.
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>>539986173
>>539986885
>they don't know about golden kris theory
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>>539987075
Noelle is the protagonist of Deltarune confirmed.
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I’m still reeling from the Gerson lore drop. God I want to see the art. It’s Toby Fox’s world and I just live in it.
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>>539986952
https://youtu.be/FS903HbnfWg?t=12650
The only thing the main character says
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>>539982043
Toby seemed to enjoy Togore yesterday. Something happened to him overnight that turned him into a hater.
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>>539985785
for the VN segment each pippins oc creator could add lines and interactions for their pippins and collaborate on it
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>>539987075
Yeah. Toby even dropped Noelle directly into the fucking game but didnt even reference Susie/Suzy at all. Deltarune is definitely going to completely revolve around her to be honest
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>>539986517
Wrong line, it's when Asriel is at the flowers.
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>>539986529
Some portion of them are just traumatized Homestuck fans since Hussie unironically does hate 90% of his fans. But Toby obviously isn't like that, being a proud fan himself.
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>Looks like this one's finally lost its mind.
>Did it decapitate itself?
>We can't die here. All this effort was for nothing.
>Poor thing.
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>>539986885
>Charasrielfags won
asriel thinks chara was awful and directly compares him to frisk who is better in every way and the kind of friend asriel WANTED chara to be
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>>539987360
….so where’s the head?
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>>539987321
To be fair to Hussie, if I accidentally started a cult I'd hate it too, especially if they keep arguing about how it was always supposed to be a cult and not just a funny story.
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>>539987413
It's rolling around somewhere, I'm sure...
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deep lore
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>>539987242
>Deltarune is going to completely revolve around her
Brother it already does. We know more about Noelle than any other character. She is directly connected to almost EVERYONE. She has influenced multiple parts of the game before it even started and during. She carries one of the main themes in almost every single song in her own theme. She gets her own route dedicated to her, to learn more and do horrible things for her to ‘make her stronger’ for reasons we don’t know why yet.
It already is about the girl.
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>Kris's parent was a magician
>Left them a set of cards for doing card tricks before putting them up for adoption
Oh.
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>>539987212
i think he was just happy to acknowledge the big thing right now in the fandom but ultimately wanted his games big emotional climax to be left as is and not revolve around it. to me its a very reasonable thing to want
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>>539987234
i only 'own' rambpins but i did make the initial posts about guropins, another artfag drew her and brought her to life so i surrendered custody over to them and whoever else made posts about her
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>>539985649
I interpreted it more like someone know knows they have a terminal brain disease like dementia begging the people they love to not see the drooling husk they will become as "them" anymore, just remember the good times, them here, talking to you
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>>539987441
There is no cult, Hussie just has an inflated view of his own importance.
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Quick, post things that Toby hates even more than Togore!
I'll start.
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>>539987398
Chasirel always felt weird to me since me and I'm guessing the vast majority of people see the two as siblings, it always felt like it was the incestous freaks pushing for this more than anyone else
>>539987531
I'm just hoping this mean togore can finally die again
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>>539987321
What's weird to me is everyone I know that acts like toby hates his fans don't know anything about homestuck.... but they're all umineko fans.

Which now that I watched joseph anderson read through umineko I can officially say I do not understand what the fuck is up with those people. The reveal that none of it was really "real" makes sense on why all umineko fans treat media the way they do, but the writer seems like a normal dude and I'm excited for silent hill f in a few days.
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>>539987656
Toby is the biggest Krusiefag out there though
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>>539987629
Clearly you haven't been on the internet for very long.
I implore you to quickly scan over the Homestuck fandom's history, and I want you to tell me if it is or isn't a cult afterwards.
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>>539987531
If he cared why did he come up with the name thing in the first place?
It's not like he was forced into doing it, he came up with it.
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>>539986581
Nice, would be awesome to expand on the idea when more people are online
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>>539987656
I prefer yaoi over yuri, Toby. =)
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>>539987697
>the vast majority of people see the two as siblings
Asriel, Toriel, Asgore, and Tobert Fox don't see them as siblings.
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>>539987802
because it played a significant part in raising $300,000 for MSF and he was probably very willing to take that chance even if he clearly had his own preference for the name
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Today was one of those good days I never want to forget. It was worth it.
Goodnight.
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The whole sibling thing always felt overblown to me.
Chara wasn't a baby when they met the Dreemurs, they were siblings in the same way you're a sibling to any of your close friends. There's nothing incestuous there.
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alright so there's a room in the ruins with a pile of old bags of flours
now imagine where Toriel gets her milk and eggs from
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>>539987949
dreams be upon ye, night
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>>539987574
yeah same. but it was also an unfounded fear. i think its an important context that he spent a long ass fucking time as flowey and a lot of that was him progressively more and more burnt out and mentally ruined by the experience. reliving the same shit over and over brought him to depravity. post-undertale, getting to live and experience new things with friends, is a new opportunity for him and as we can see in the alarm clock thing it's going well. so asriel's fear, and by extension his desire to be forgotten, is unnecessary
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>>539987656
the way every anon gaslit themselves into thinking toby, who got excited that krusie fans draw susie resting her head on kris when he had that scene drafted for years, who wrote that gay as fuck scene of kris feeling happy next to susie in the mirror, thinking THIS GUY hates krusie, is mass schizophrenia
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I'm still playing Undertale for the first time, what's going on with the stream?
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>>539988174
another room with an old fridge with milk and eggs
holy fuck...
tobert i kneel...
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>>539988174
toriel totally milks herself.
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>>539987937
You're telling me that when Toby was having people mod shit into the game he couldn't have thought up something else as a mcguffin to get people donating? Only a bid war between the name would do it?... c'mon.
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>>539986721
I love making other people lose
spite is my only real motivator
>>539987080
I have uploaded shitpost vocaroos here but they're too racist for me to attach a name to them most of the time
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>>539987745
With Umineko, the issue isn't the "reveal," it's that the author directly mocked certain fans in the text. The goats in the later episodes espouse popular fan theories (not schizo ones like friend inside me, just normal whodunnit theories) while the characters talk shit about them. The bad ending is all about how caring about the truth behind a murder mystery story makes you callous and evil. Nowadays Umineko is known as a work of metafiction, but back when the episodes were released serially, people expected a supernatural mystery story like Higurashi, so it came across as an insult to those early fans who were invested specifically in the mystery.
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>Aneki is one of the game's biggest mysteries
>Imouto is a playable character and potentially the angel
>Mother is the mayor and probably major villain
>Father is dying and possible motivation for tragic shit down the line
Why is Toby obsessed with the reindeer?
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>>539987629
Psycholonials literally is about him trying to cope with having created (or, if you wanna go full /x/ on this, revived) a cult by logging off by just being a different person in real life than on the internet.
There's even an argument to be made from rigorous epistemology that Lord English is the English language itself and that Homestuck is literally about how there's no hard line between weak Sapir-Whorf and strong Sapir-Whorf and even more absolute nerd shit with terrible implications for the human condition.
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>>539988174
>alright so there's a room in the ruins with a pile of old bags of flours
Like the Unbread Twins tomb?
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>>539988259
he didnt need to. use your fucking head you moron. do you think having the name be chara would have been more important to toby than raising charity money in his charity money raising stream? fuck dude
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>>539980410
Procreate
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>now we wait
>wait,wait,wait,wait,wait
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>>539987774
I was in the Homestuck fandom. Bad cosplays and retarded Tumblr posts do not constitute a cult. You should do research on actual cults.
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>>539987802
I think he came up with the name contest idea thinking that people would naturally gravitate towards the canon name.
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>>539988421
We got content this year, when Toby said we would. We get regular updates on the game too. Deltarune fans are so spoiled.
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>>539988364
Psycholonials is literally written by Hussie and is the biggest evidence of his inflated sense of importance, yes.
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>>539988639
You're implying anybody existing in any sort of fandom is ever satisfied with the content they're given. There'll always be some faggot who's upset, who begins to fan the flames and make everybody else frenzy. "It's not what I wanted!" this, or "he/she is a hack!" that. It's all the same shit, just stay at home autists with nothing else in their life complaining.
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>>539988421
The newsletter literally said that the next chapter will come out in the second half of 2026. You are so retarded it's unreal.
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>>539988542
The entire stream concept was predicated upon the idea that many of his fans would be incapable of being creative without his prodding.
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>>539988078
>I just want to see my wife. I just want to see my child.
>It's me, your best friend.
>What if the child is a human...? What?
Chara was never seen as their child by the Dreemurrs, by their own words. Chara gets cucked by Kris and Frisk.
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>>539988224
These two streams pretty much confirmed that Alphyne was just the test run for Suselle. It was locked in for a decade. Anything else is merely him trying to make the story more "interesting" by introducing unpredictability.
He just wants Kris and Susie to basically be an "iconic duo of epic super chill best bros to the end" but accidentally ended up making a more interesting relationship than the one he had already planned on, so now he has to try to convince the audience that his self-insert is better.
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Now that the stream is over and i dont have to worry about ruining the sentimental atmosphere, god damn I want Asriel Dreemurr to rest his huge godly dick on my face
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>>539988341
Well yeah, joseph anderson's girlfriend was giving context about this through out all the streams, but all the people I know that read through it did so well after it was complete.

The easiest way to explain it is like... all the umineko fans I know all see ralsei and the darkners as not "real people" and only exist to give depth to the "real people" in this video game, and like, how do you get to the end of umineko and see any fictional character like that. They all believe in queen being the "universal mother" because obviously she's not a real person with her own personality... she's only a metaphor for the real characters and their relationships to their moms.

Again, how do umineko fans interact with media like that after finishing umineko. This is like "huge hideo kojima fan doesn't like politics in their video game" level of confusing to me.
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>>539985785
Game where you can strip Tenna whenever you win
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lot of angy in this thread, don't be angee
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WHERE THE FUCK IS THE CYOA
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>>539988969
>>539988971
classic
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Say "I do" and seal our souls together
Voulez-vous, our love will last forever
Since we're not related, it'll be ok!
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>>539988971
same time as the last cyoa.
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>>539988971
Why dont you just imagine it?
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>>539988875
same
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>>539988676
As someone who had a few very minor e-celeb moments (which included getting dox on this very website twice, yay), I think you might never have anything you did accidentally take off, and I envy you for lacking that experience.
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>>539988921
>all the umineko fans I know all see ralsei and the darkners as not "real people" and only exist to give depth to the "real people" in this video game
The thing about darkners not being real is that Deltarune knows its entire world is a game and not real. The light world is still part of the illusion and still partially made of darkness, since the Knight still has some abilities in the light world like the phone magically picking itself up.
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>toby kept flashing his fox fursona at random on the stream
What is he trying to tell us? is he... asking for it?
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Pippins game weird route
>have you hear of… punishment games?
>they once where forbidden… Games of death!
>however, if you are interested in getting stronger, here are the details
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>>539988889
order... order.....
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>>539989169
an anon already drew his anus a thread or two ago
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>>539989119
>got doxxed twice
>is still here
you unironically deserve a third doxxing just for being retarded
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>>539989169
"Please make porn of this for me for free" is what he's asking
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>>539989135
twin peaks was all about the light and the dark mixing to spell out the truth- the absolute. i imagine we'll get a revelation during the story that implies anything that's possible in the dark world could be possible in the light.
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>>539988921
Oh you're talking about the retarded new fans not the bitter old fans. Newer fans typically got into specifically because of the metafictional aspect, so they exclusively read everything through a meta lens and don't engage with the story as a story.
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>>539989119
Do you just not understand what a cult is? Cults aren't "groups of people who do bad or cringy things" which seems to be what you think they are.
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>>539988824
That would be pretty fucked up considering I'm pretty sure it was Chara who knitted the "Mr. Dad guy" sweater, no wonder they're mentally ill if even their adoptive family saw them as lesser
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>>539989215
Yes, the correct response to being creative and then being appreciated for being creative to the point that you also developer haters is to stop being creative.
That's the lesson of the hit indie game Undertale.
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>>539989375
Jesus christ anon, nobody who's responded to you is actually saying Hussie's fandom is a real cult, it's analogous to a cult. It's hyperbole. You must be very, very autistic...
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>>539989384
Im not saying stop being creative, im saying stop doing it here. If you got stabbed in an alley, and then got a stabbed in that same alley a week later, maybe you should fucking stop going into that alley in particular. I dont even know or care to know what you did to get doxxed, you're just failing basic common sense by remaining here
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>>539989215
That attitude is why you will never find success in life
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>>539989378
>finally think you found a family who will love you
>"parents" don't acknowledge you as their kid
>"brother" desperately wants to fuck you
No wonder Chara committed murder-suicide.
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>>539989212
And that anon is doing it again!
>>539989231
He is in luck.
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just beat sans.
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>>539989568
I KNEEEEEEEEEEEEL
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>>539989441
>Psycholonials literally is about him trying to cope with having created (or, if you wanna go full /x/ on this, revived) a cult
You are a dishonest little bitch.
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>>539988875
>>539989050
Based!
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>>539989475
I got beat in an alley. Never going down that street again!
I got bullied in school, at my favourite seating place. I can't go there ever again! Waaahh!
Have some fucking integrity. The anon isn't crying about being doxxed- they're not giving power to the doxxers by leaving and never coming back- that's what they want. I bet you take life laying down all the time. I bet you have nothing left to cherish, because everything that's ever negatively impacted you dissuades you from living your life.
Don't give power to haters. They're worthless filth that want to pull you down, and destroy your connections.
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>>539989475
Have you considered that I wasn't even active here while working on my projects and that I was made aware by strangers that people posted my personal details here? Can you conceive of the idea that people sometimes stop going to a website for a time and then come back?
I suppose you are one of those people who constantly lament that they wish they could quit being on furchin but don't get the idea to just not visit the website?
Like, it's literally impossible to do anything that's vaguely associated with weebshit on the internet without Anon eventually talking about it, and then funny
>everyone who creates things is retarded for not retreating into a hole instead
type anons start shitting on it. It's how the internet has worked for literally 20 years.
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>>539989627
12 years later, Toby finally confirms what I knew in my heart all along: Flowey is tsundere.
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>>539989617
Wasn't me who said that, lmao.
You're the one arguing semantics about what is and isn't a cult, like an angry autistic with a True Crime hyperfixation.
Can't use terms loosely in any context without some turbosperg nitpicking.
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>>539989627
unfortunately asriel was fighting to keep frisk by his side, because he was having too much fun, with frisk.
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>>539989679
Can you rephrase this post to sound less faggy
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>>539989875
>posting on the internationally recognized faggot website asking people to be less faggy
based
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>>539989875
grug strong u wrong
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>>539989842
>Wasn't me who said that, lmao.
So? You said "nobody" said that. Someone did say that. That's not nitpicking, you made a retarded claim because you can't follow reply chains.
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>>539989679
>>539989713
If its such a nothing problem, dox yourselves right now pussies. Clearly other people doing it doesnt affect you, why not show them whos boss and do their job for them to show how little the info being out affects you? It's already happened twice after all, whats a third going to do?
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>>539989946
Thanks
>>539989875
Everything in moderation
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i don't think i want to do my cyoa tonight. too many /v/ netizens still here, bringing their cynical negativity to /utg/. i'll probably do it tomorrow night. it gives me time to do more pre-assets, and i've got some work to do other than that anyway.
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>be me a few years back
>make personal fanfic scenario about how magic disappeared after monsters were imprisoned in the prehistoric times
>how monster/human offspring combines the soul energies only in a positive, divine fashion compared to absorbing a soul, making them effectively gods and demigods
>how all the events that happened turned into ancient religions, mythologies, legends, fables and fairy tales in preliterary history
>how combined fear, jealousy, warlust, perceived manipulation by the divine and loss of humanity brought mankind to wipe the monsters and their kin out
>but not without men and women standing against the odds for love and humanity
>and how the history repeats after the True Pacifist ending with magic coming back to surface in the current, modern world in nearly apocalyptic fashion
>see the stream and get to the Gerson part
>mfw
I don't know how to feel about things
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>>539990034
calm down hussie
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>>539989973
I said nobody is "actually". Again, I can tell you're incredibly autistic by the way you cling to certain words to push your narrative. Actually, it sounds a lot like asbergers.
>>539990034
God, you're retarded.
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>>539990162
same for me bud, same for me
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Open For SEX
https://litter.catbox.moe/vqpcyc.png
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>>539986632
>>539986880
people in chat said "first breasts of the game" when Catty showed up on screen, and it led to this other comment after the MTT EX fight.
>Toby: * Alfie is your friend died
>Dan: It's just your friend as a bust of your friend.
>Reid: Second bust of the game.
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>>539990162
qrd?
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>>539990298
toby said first breasts
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>>539990207
Bitch, they said it was literally a cult and talked about some /x/ schizo shit. You have poor theory of mind and assume everyone is speaking from the same viewpoint as you so the intentions behind their words must be the same as yours regardless what they're really saying.
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>>539990298
>said "and what breasts they are!" in chat
>got banned
:(
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aberrant is very good, it's literally just a diehard toby fan that assumes shit he never said and you defeat it by telling it that the area he's in is just for show and not an actual update
it's literally everyone who was like WELL HE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY MENTION PENUMBRA or WELL HE DIDN'T SAY HE WOULD NEVER RELEASE HARD MODE JUST IMPLIED IT
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>>539990319
QRD of what Gerson said or my shitty fiction?
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>>539990468
Amazing, you literally just put into words what I'm trying to say to you. I have to admit, you said it in a more succinct way than I did, but it's hilarious that you projected exactly what I'm getting at.
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>>539990594
what gerson said, but if you want to talk about your fanfic thats ok too
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>>539990636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf_QZyI71dM
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why is no one talking about the other two monsters they showed on the dog hole? there was one that looked like the veggie one from the ruins and and another that looking like the icy snowman guys but they were like mega-evolutions basically
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>>539990627
One of my favorite parts of this website is how you can just state some inane shit and sometimes this will result in two anons arguing about agreeing with each other that the inane shit makes no sense.
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>>539990627
>you literally just put into words what I'm trying to say to you.
No, you are saying that I'm making up a strawman and nitpicking word choice just to argue with said strawman, which is a completely different thing than what I described you doing. Notably because I obviously wouldn't be arguing with that other anon if I assumed they must secretly agree with me and they didn't actually mean what they said.
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>>539990697
nta but Im glad to know all my suspicions of the war were valid. (tho this was just tobys headcanon...)
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>>539990903
Holy yappo-matic. I no longer care
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>>539989641
asriel defined his own form. he chooses his own body based on what a badass god of everything should look like. imagine what he's packing under there. damn. the heft of it
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>>539990719
yeah im still upset we didnt see their fight, I can understand not getting everything outside the fights as an update because if they are vertical slices, then theres no point in playing myself because I get the same shit watching the stream, but the battles are where the actual experience lies. If those monsters didnt have bullets and they were just there to tease more non-existant battles, fuck you im not satisified just playing the game in my head, and im not going to make a battle just to play it myself I want to have a fun 5 minute encounter not however long it would take to make the fight myself
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>>539991010
I accept your concession.
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>>539991105
If it helps you sleep at night, knowing you argued over such an abstract issue, but alright.
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>>539991058
the way they kinda panicked and fled the battle makes me think they just were not meant to show us that... something may be coming
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>>539991058
Just wait for some turbo autist to make the mod. It will happen eventually.
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>>539991105
accept this concussion, bro
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>>539991167
It's more likely that they fled because they knew that fight was unfinished, but I admire your optimism
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>>539991167
I dont believe they werent meant to show it off, because if they werent then toby wouldnt have put them in the encounter pool and they wouldnt fuck around in the maze for the extra time they did to risk getting it on stream
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>>539989568
Pls finish this
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>>539991286
If I have to...
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>>539991167
Jesus Christ anon, you've got to let go of this kind of cope
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>>539991167
Nah it was a joke. Those are dummy enemies with no attacks, just a visual gag about two ridiculous looking enemies. The script probably said "Just say 'nah' and run away as soon as you see them". Same with the dog labyrinth "looking massive" but it's just the one room.
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>>539988224
>>539988852
I don't see how both can be true, too. The stream itself even makes it clear that Toby's not so binary when it comes to shipping/shipteasing. Toby could view both Suselle and Krusie as valid.

Shippers can be too zero to one-hundred with their assessments. Viewing Toby as only accidentally creating pure cinema with Kris and Susie is doing him a bit of a injustice. Sure, the dog might have a bias one way or another but it's not all or nothing.
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>>539991167
>Battle theme is called "Strongerer Monsterers"
It's just one of the three "mod musketeers"' take on what Hard Mode could've been
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>>539991748
>I don't see how both can be true, too
*I don't see how both can't be true, too
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>>539991748
Susie obviously can handle both Kris and Noelle at the same time.
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>>539991748
Yeah, even with Alphyne, Alphys has shipbait with Asgore too.
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Why did Toby reference Marge and Lisa both having necklaces in both streams?
There are characters based on them both in Deltarune but they aren't related to eachother
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>>539991748
i am the first anon you replied to and i am a multishipper, i always have been. toby, who is the biggest sorielfag, just said that sans pining for toriel and alphys pining for asgore could lead to sans x alphys and they have a lot in common, he even said he has several ships for burgerpants, with either mettaton or nicecream.
i like krusie and kriselle and i don't think a single ship bait thing is accidental from him, who shipfags so hard
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>>539992137
>they aren't related to eachother
Or are they?
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>>539992137
>Tobysoft game
>X is not related to Y
Impossible
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>>539992153
The OTPers and ship warriors cannot comprehend the multishipper ubermensch
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>>539992205
I can't imagine Catty's mom having any relation to Alphys or Monster Kid
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the cyoa is happening at 2 am for me
ugh
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>>539992267
100% no romance will be hard confirmed in the end precisely for this except for maybe a scene that changes like BoF2
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i missed the first half of day 1
what was shown that was new
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>>539992346
Those are rosary bead necklaces and they're all Catholic, that's why MK's necklace has a cross. They just go to the Angelican church because the nearest Catholic one is too far away.
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>>539991835
I'm not a big polyamory pusher, but I do think there's something cooking there, too. At the minimum people sleep too hard on Toby fleshing out the wider friend group as a whole. The doomiest of anons seem to think everything will be discarded once PLAN: SUSELLE comes into action, but that's a huge disservice to how much Toby clearly cares about Kris and Susie being the main vehicle for his game's comedic and serious moments.

>>539991934
Exactly. Obviously when you're a true, dedicated shipper you only want the purest of good news, but people rubberband too far in the other direction when they start doomposting. The image they have of Toby in their heads isn't accurate.

>>539992153
Yteah, Toby is a lot more flexible than we give him credit. Another example from the stream is him joking about preferring Burgerpants and MTT over BP and Nice Cream Guy (both ships he teased, of course). The idea that Toby's path is so set in stone isn't accurate to his track record and it ironically goes against his game's message too.
Sure, maybe we'll get more Suselle in a future chapter, but we'll get a ton of other kino shit, too. Toby is a very reasonable fellow.

>>539992267
I envy them sometimes. I'm more of a pure Krusie kind of anon, but I'm quite flexible. Kriselle is nice, too. Well, I guess I wouldn't fall under the "OTPer" archetype then, but still.
I wish more people were willing to have a favourite ship without being so stubborn about it. Though I'm sure it's more common than I think and most of the bitching comes from the loudest voices.
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Not a single relationship will come about in Deltarune, not Susie x Noelle or Sans x Toriel. The climax of the story will be one bit reset that puts everything back to normal as if nothing ever happened, and at best Noelle will make small talk with Susie as she says something about having a "familiar feeling" before brushing it off. Sans and Toriel will remain just casual friends, Asgore will still be divorced even despite you saving Dess because lmao fuck Asgore says Toby. At absolute best you'll have a cute little scene between Dess and Asriel, maybe Pizzapants will get a pity joke thrown in. None of relationships in the game will have lasting consequences, except if you did Snowgrave in which case none of it matters anyways since everybody is fucking dead.
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>>539992386
A Toriel statue in the ruins, a weird guy dressed as Santa that cut trees. child Noelle hiding behind a tree, Spamton eating a giant french fry, underwater town where Onionsan lives
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Toby will unequivocally confirm that me x fave is canon
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How do I kill time until Chapter 5
I thought this stream would help satiate my brainrot but it didn't
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I never thought Toby would be this passionate about Chara that he wanted to shine light on them
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>>539992597
>>539992382
I'm in this camp as well. I don't think the romance will be completely flat across the board — sort of what like >>539992597 implies, some extra comments for more "approved" romances here or there, but the scope and pacing of the game really doesn't leave room for the dating game some people think DR will be.
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>>539993082
Gret I'm Chra part 2: Electric Boogaloo
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>>539993071
Picking up a hobby could be nice, especially if you can satiate your DR rot at the same time: music, art, game dev, etc.
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I just realized him having everyone vote on a name when he REALLY wanted it to be Chara anyway is literally just him repeating the "Name the Fallen Human" mistake again, so I hope thats intentional otherwise its funny for all the wrong reasons
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People massively underestimate Toby writing almost everyone being horny for each other
I think Undyne is the only major character who only has feelings for one person
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>>539993071
Fangames
Tobycore games like Live A Live, Paper Mario, etc
Games similar to UTDR like Omori, Everhood, etc
Watch all of Twin Peaks
If all else fails, write a fanfiction
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>>539993285
I want Asgore to mating-press half of the Hometown.
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>>539993285
There will be Napstablook/Undyne bait in chapter 5, confusing everyone.
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>>539993381
I wish I was half of the Hometown...
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>>539993381
i wouldnt be surprised if he already has to be honest, you dont give someone enough flowers to fill 3 garbage cans and not fuck them
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good morning chat, how are you?

>>539993524
goat
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>>539993559
doing this dumb shit i need sleep and art skill
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>>539993285
>People massively underestimate Toby writing almost everyone being horny for each other
People overlook the fandom and culture he came from. Shipteasing comes as naturally to him as trickery and lying.

>I think Undyne is the only major character who only has feelings for one person
And her feelings for Alphys are kind of muted, too (in a good way). She feels mature and laid back enough when it comes to romance that I can see any relationship with her lasting.
While I might have issues with Suselle I'm actually fine with Alphdyne. I really like Undyne's reasoning for liking Alphys during the dating tutorial.

>>539993381
Dangerously based.
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>>539979854
>he whole part of 'A MONSTER IS STRONGER THAN HUMAN IF THEY TAKE A SINGLE SOUL' is bullshit.
Based. People make fun of the Knight, but Asriel and Photoshop Flowey are actual frauds and "Asgore if he took the souls" is a huge potential man.
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Why does Toby like abusive bosses so much? Is it because they remind him of Hussie?
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>>539993832
Dess learned from the original fraud
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>>539993642
>And her feelings for Alphys are kind of muted, too (in a good way). She feels mature and laid back enough when it comes to romance that I can see any relationship with her lasting
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>>539993869
Unironically yes
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>>539993964
Tobert used this image to make their Deltarune personalities.
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>>539993381
I want to mating-press and be mating-pressed by Asgore so badly it's unreal.
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>>539993869
>Toby likes BurgerMetta because Mettaton is his idol until he starts working for him
>Hussie was Toby’s idol for a long time and then he started working with him
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>>539993559
BAAAAA!
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>>539993637
sleep well fren

>>539994149
he's a baaa
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>>539994232
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>539979762
too few humans on monster side
monsters probably didn't taken souls out of respect to the their fallen allies
honestly i genuinely think that asgore or just monsters tried to not kill humans to show that they mean no harm (and with that part that neither monster neither humans truly wanted to fight each other it's seems like truth)
>>539979854
you didn't beat asriel lmao
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>>539993869
my pet theory is that battat is meant to be a depiction of his relationship with hussie, schizo theory crafting homestuck plot threads, toby becoming hussie's favorite, knowing more personal things about hussie than most others, hussie being emotionally flighty, stupid, and self absorbed. even other HS musicians commented on how hussie withdrew from them and talked to toby the most. mettapants is proto battenna.
of course, this is just a game theory
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>>539994401
I’ll accept that theory
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>>539993832
Both Asriel and Omega Flowey were winning tho
Flowey only lost because the human souls turned on him
And Asriel only lost because of his sentimentality
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>>539983110
>Toby says Alphys is one of his favorite characters
Reminder that Toby Fox originally designed Alphys as a dude but grew to hate him.
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>>539994383
>monsters probably didn't taken souls out of respect to the their fallen allies
not all monsters would do that (muffet, undyne, mettaton). Theres also a thing called desperation as the monsters start losing.
> asgore or just monsters tried to not kill humans to show that they mean no harm
gerson states that the other side suffered a large cost. So humans may have indeed died from monsters
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>>539994401
I hope Battat can find a nice Temmie to settle down with and stop chasing after love from a narcissist.
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>>539994543
>hateable character suddenly becomes endearing when you swap genders
Many, many, many such cases.
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>>539994495
Photoshop Flowey lost because of an inherent flaw in using the souls, which means he was always fated to lose, and because the soul didn't do the "but it refused" thing like it does in the Asriel fight because plot.
Asriel's goal was to kill Frisk, but the soul was never ever going to die, so it was a stalemate for Asriel at best even before Frisk started interacting with the Lost Souls.
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>>539994684
It REALLY makes you think.
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>>539993381
Same.
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>>539994634
Temmie is already involved in her other projects, meanwhile Hussie gave Toby the main role in Homestuck. Because Toby has been such a good boy and never bit the hand that fed him, he’s getting rewarded.
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>>539994684
name one where it happened with making a female character male though
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>>539994401
My theory is that Toby ran out of ideas for ch 5+6 on how to make Kris ships as toxic as possible and that's why he got back with Hussie. Watch Kris become the Dirk of Deltarune.
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I think Tenna should abuse and beat every Pippins
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>>539994964
A few times during the making of Star Wars the role of Luke Skywalker was going to be a woman instead of a man
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>>539995141
this quote is like a shank to my heart
no one ever wants to grow up no matter how many times they tell themselves this
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>>539993542
>Asgore gives flowers to everyone
>however, if you take one of the flowers from the bunch, sniff it and give it back to him, it's a sign you want him to rail you that night
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>>539995091
>he got back with Hussie.
more like hussie dangled john egbert in front of him and toby could only obey. he probably dreamed of voicing john in fan animations his entire homestuck fan life.
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>>539994515
Nothing important, really. Kinda disappointing desu but then again i don't know what I expected
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You guys think Tobies hates kriselle due to it only being possible in the "wrong" route?
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>>539992153
I think Toby just finds it funny that burgerpants has a big crush on his boss that he hates. Not necessarily that he thinks it should be endgame or anything
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>>539995901
If Tobina hated kriselle then why did he make it better than suselle and give it so much screentime and backstory and etc.
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Reminder that this line of the prophecy is clearly in the context of "love" finding "the girl", there's no founded interpretation of this line outside of it referring to love and the girl, and that Susie is being built up to reject the prophecy, specifically in the context of the "love finds the girl" line. We WILL get evil Noelle kino and the whole point of Noelle loving Susie is evil Noelle kino.
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new bread when
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>>539995901
I'm not a big Kriselle shipper, I don't think Toby hates Kriselle, but he's not ready for the game to explore that side of their relationship in the normal route. It happens in the weird route because the two are forced into it, but I wouldn't say that means Toby hates it either. Like, Toby's not writing the weird route with tears in his eyes and shaking his fist that these evil chuds on 4chan are forcing him to do this.

If Toby's spending time on something he cares.
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>>539996415
>fails to mention it is AI revenge porn of her
curious
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>>539996415
There's no way she's got tits like that. I thought she were flat.
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>>539995414
Luke Skywalker is hatable?
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>>539994952
More like he's getting an albatross around his neck
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>>539996368
I took it more like "(You)'ll get BTFO'd and Susie will earn the happy ending you wanted for you." Works with my interpretation of Snowgrave being (You) forcefully maintaining control of the story through Kris into Noelle, at the detriment of literally everyone else's happiness. I don't think there's any scenario where the Lancer Fan Club fully knows about us and still chooses to work with us willingly.
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Nurture the Plus y/n
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>>539996368
Noelle isn't the angel
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so is the cyoa starting now?
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>>539996415
I’ve been here since 2021 and you’re a faggot
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It's her game
Everyone else is just living in it
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>>539996761
>I don't think there's any scenario where the Lancer Fan Club fully knows about us and still chooses to work with us willingly.
Why? (You) don't do anything malicious outside of the weird route.
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>>539996761
How does the use of the term "desire" not deconfirm player angel? How can a game claim to know what I desire and what not? Maybe I fucking hate the game and every character.
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>>539996806
cyoa?
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>>539996908
Toby can't account for the player being a masochist who is voluntarily doing something they hate for no reason at all
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>>539983889
>A good chunk of that and the Chara aspects feel like Toby wanted to clarify parts the fandom got annoying about because Toby didn't hard-confirm either way in the game proper. Whether it was Asriel actually caring about Chara, Narra Chara/SAVE-ing Chara, why humans are magic-less babies in the post TP cutscene, etc.
These kind of people won't ever stop being annoying unless their theories and fanons were hard deconfirmed. What Tobert did, at least in regards to Chara, was just poking the anthill without adding anything substantial.
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>>539996924
choose your own adventure. One of the anons here has been making a collaborative game.
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>>539997092
How long?
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>>539996897
Does Susie really strike you as the type of person to enjoy being ordered around by some weird extra-dimensional being? Even if we're strictly benevolent, she'd still try to make us stop puppeting Kris since they're her real friend in her mind (despite us doing 85% of the work in getting to that friendship). Ralsei maybe, but only as a means to an end. Kris would throw us in a blender if we weren't needed in some grand plan, even outside of Snowgrave.

>>539996908
By willingly playing the game and not going for Snowgrave the assumption would be you want a happy ending, why even continue otherwise?
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>>539997118
TAKING TOO LONG
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>>539992597
>deltarune is just donnie darko you guys
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>>539996897
>Why? (You) don't do anything malicious outside of the weird route.
I guess some people are just stuck in Chapter 1 mentally, think Kris has no agency and is just trying to rebel against the player and that the player's Vessel being forcably destroyed in the intro means nothing. Chapter 2 ought to have people slapped out of that state of mind, but it also added Snowgrave and allowed those people to seamlessly latch this interpretation onto Snowgrave as if the regular route didn't exist.
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>>539992597
There was romance in Undertale and Toby's banging pots and pans about romance in Deltarune. I think you're delusional.
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>>539997181
>By willingly playing the game and not going for Snowgrave the assumption would be you want a happy ending, why even continue otherwise?
Maybe I'm just in for the ride and want to see where it goes. Who is going to banish the player when the player is the one with the power to banish in the first place, anyway.
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>>539997181
Kris is the one shoving us inside them when we have a perfectly good vessel we could be using. Susie is pretty dumb, so she'll probably jump to conclusions about the situation when she first learns about it (which could go either way depending on how it happens), but she's reasonable enough to conclude neither Kris nor (You) are malicious, just in bad circumstances.
Ralsei is still a bit of a wild card, but he lives in a town named after (You) so I'm inclined to think he'll have a positive opinion of (You).
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make the fucking thread i have important posts to make
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>>539997464
Toby is working with YoYo Games to add a new GameMaker feature that permanently banishes the player from ever playing the game again on any platform.
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>>539997561
Your posts are not important. Suffer.
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Man i fell asleep and woke up to finding out UT Gerson is into human wizard bitches
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>cyoa isnt happening
i was lied too
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>>539998063
DR Gerson was also into human bitches. Alvin and the librarian have fucked up eyes because they're halfbreeds.
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Okay I slept it off and I'm over it now. I think I just had different expectations for the stream.
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>>539980904
>is not transparent
temmie u hack
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>>539994684
im in a server with like 4 trannies and they cant stop defending HealthEast but i say they would hate HealthEast if she was a guy and the trannies always look over that statement
kek
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>>539984161
The hand matching thing is lame and theres no skill for it



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