Brewski Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>539934229
>>540003415snakes dont have boobs
im glad vyper doesnt look like that
>>540003607those are venom glandsshe got 0k souls by 30 minutes
Why do people say that gun Holliday is bad?
>>540003142Which server
paige fat ass
>>540003765holy shit guys I just won with gun holliday in the absolute lowest ranks in the game.
>>540003435but which mains are least likely to be wearing a cage
>>540003937wow shit that was fasti main mina/pocket and i have not once had desire to wear a cage but i would not be opposed to caging someone else
what does good yamato gameplay look like?
>>540003937>holliday very likely to cage but pocket only somewhat uncommon>lash in uncommon>victor in very uncommon>doorman not in 100% guaranteedthis list sucks ass
>>540003937paiges mains are for me
>dunked on a player so hard he quit mid matchThis is how you know you are getting better.
>>540003937i feel like you had strong opinions about like 3 characters then just made the rest upalso like most tier lists, even fake ones there's way too many tiers when it's uncalled for.
>>540004143gun build>you hook to someone>you w+m1 even though you have the literal worst shotgun in the game and hope they don't have bullet resist>you hit 3 and 4 when your health gets low>you probably farm and splitpush a bunch but don't really do muchspirit build>you hook to someone>you press 1 and hope they don't have spirit resist or spell parry>you hit 3 and 4 when your health gets low>you probably farm and splitpush a bunch but don't really do much
>play against lash>never allowed to direct push towers>always have to think about some place to escape where his ult can reach you>constantly has hg advantage with his broken movementI hate this hero.
>>540004653>play against lash>buy counterspell>he doesn't get to play the game because he has one of the worst guns in the game and his slam/ult are insanely telegraphed>if he's got good movement I but knockdown too
>>540004653sky king will come along and take the spot as king of the skiesfortuna might also come some day and she might have an Ogre Magi tier stun
>>540003765probably because they're not seeker shitters
When are we getting a Skywrath Mage hero?
>>540004740>>buy counterspellAre you telling me you parry all his ults? Because I don't believe that.
>>540004741>fortuna might also come some day and she might have an Ogre Magi tier stunif this game gets an ogre hero, with bloodlust and multicast, I know what I main.
Carhop girl with rollerskates that can grind on walls and has abilities that do damage based on momentumthought?
>>540003142add me I'm free practically all day (NEET) 152961441
>>540005247The most important part of comms is to be positive and nice so people trust you better when you give call-outs and tell them to do something.
>>540005247>Billy>Bro tierI have yet to meet a chill Billy player
I'm so sick of this. I already know how this match is going to end, but there is nothing I can do about it.
>>540005342I play with a buddy that constantly bitches people out on mic and I've tried explaining this to him, all you're doing by being a faggot is making people play worse it's just retarded all around. I also personally don't care to that extent, kind of the devs fault for combining queues so why get mad at people?
Really dislike fighting Yamato as spirit Doorman, every time she goes sickomode I just accept my fate as her hook latches onto me
Abrams fucked Geist in all holes. This is canonical. Also great animation. Valve couldn't do it better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwTmyl18WRM
>>540005247i dunno i like seven and mokrill because i don't have to talk much except the occasional ping since they're just kinda self sufficient and can just hang back or leave if things to bad for them.
>>540003415How do I play Calico?
I'm encounter a conundrum. I (Alchemist shitter) have been seeing increased success in my play by just sticking to my lane and running it down half the match, either taking the enemy walker eventually or forcing multiple enemies to defend it which helps the rest of my team. But at what point should I drop out of lane to participate in a brool? A player complained that I wasn't doing that today but I was so focused on laning and fucking with the one enemy trying to protect their walker that I didn't know the teamfight was happening. Earlier still a Mirage accused me of being AFK even though I had the highest souls, damage, objective damage and healing on the team but didn't participate in more than a couple group fights. I think running down lanes is overall good but I can't determine the point where I need to rotate and focus on something more important.
>>540005365you WILL sit through a 30 minute match that was lost from the very beginning and you WILL like itt. yoshi
>>540006443It ended up not so bad, actually. We came back.
>>540005365>>540006443We won! And now I need to remove Drifter from my roster.
hahah imagine you're doing fine and your mates decided to feed a wraith who'se gonna rat all game haha
>>540006275if you look directly down before using her pounce you'll barely move and it's basically guaranteed to hit whoever is in front of youi don't remember if you have to jump or not to achieve this
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!!!!
>>540007086basado
Haze remodel into actual smoke when
I feel like it's very hard to improve at the game in its current state
they should give us a third robot character but this time make him not fucking lame
>>540007624>ThirdWho's the second?
>we gain an advantage by killing 4 of them>my team full sends and gets caught out by the respawns>we lose the advantage>rinse and repeat 10 times per matchhow do these niggers not learn not to overstay their welcome? are they even sentient?
Is Haze an Ixian? She seems like one but her lore never mentions it
How do you dodge enemy fire? Do you just always need to move side to side?
>>540005247Not wrong, but every Billy is bitching about something if they're not ahead. Maybe just to be in character
>>540003818I want to spank her ass
Finally carried a comeback game. Only lane winning, souls deficit till the 30 minute mark, and we rolled them over with a couple of teamfights
Is taking walkers with the enemy right there too risky? Oftetimes when I'm splitpushing even if I have a teammate or two with me the call is made to back up once they show even if we're even in numbers but does the walkers presence really justify that enough? Perhaps if it's a lash or Billy I get it but surely we can just keep firing until 1 or 2 more go missing on the minimap before backing?
I think I get it now.If I saw retarded teammates, I will just ignore them and play by myself, getting as much souls as possible, and if I happen to be nearby, just go there, rain ult, get some kills, then fuck off and continue farming.This way, I can have a chance of winning against the enemies even though my team is retarded as fuck.
>>540009669depends on how long the match has been going on for, after the 16 minute mark it's a pretty safe bet
This game needs more female heroes. Fan artists already ran out of material.
>>540007774dynamo and bebop are robots
>>540009687huge initiate 1 gains
>>540010226dynamo is not a robot
>>540005630>valve couldn't do it betterI like valve's animation better though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5_xGKJKhk
>>540008602this is bullshit. the djinn need a home & you know it
So debuff resist only affects duration right? For example, if nigfernus is able to keep reapplying his afterburn debuff resist is completely irrelevant?
>>540010882it makes it harder for it to apply and easier to survive if you escapebut if he's actively shooting you then yes you're still going to take a lot of damage
do I get a penalty if I just wait at the spawn
>>540010489moves too much like a pixar character
>>540010226https://youtu.be/3UgNXBB2w48?t=4
Let's get it on nowSelect and make your first pickLet's get it on 'yo10, 9, 8, 7, 6Let's get it on 'yoChoose and pick the best oneLet's get it on now5, 4, 3, 2, 1
can I play this game if I can't aim for shit?
>>540011270yes
>>540011116Well, I got the picture.>>540011270Yeah just play a character who don't have skillshots like Victor or Abrams.
>>540011270yeah play Kelvin or Dynamo they got huge aoe or a beam
>>540009669there's never a definite yes or no answer to these questions.the context of every game is always different so you have to use your best judgment.
>>540011353>>540011372>>540011312What if I wanted to play Viper? I can't lie, something about Viper got me wanting to play Deadlock in the first place.
>>540011453is it because of her gameplay or simply because you're a lonely man?
>>540011453>what if I wanted to play the character that relies 100% on hitting her shots?you already know the answer to the question nigga
>>540010489still think the fan one was betterbetter lighting and more cinematic and more focus on facial animations while the McGinnis one isn't even delivering anything interesting with her lines.
>>540005247For some reason I've seen a major uptick in Bebops bitching their teams out while not even doing the most basic fucking comms that hero should be expected for and calling out their hooks.
>>540011490both>>540011509FUCK
>>540011617depends: you need to understand how sliding work. For aiming eh... You can't hit if you don't stick the barrel in their mouth. Play dynamo or kelvin first or hell even Wraith she slides and shoots too to train
>>540011453As someone who’s also a shit shot who stubbornly plays the flying sniper ghost ive seen myself improving. Just eat dirt until you git gud
I can't take it anymore too. Any EU west wants to duo?
>>540011713>>540011807thanks anons, I'll practice with kelvin/wraith
>>540011991Rank?
>>540012076Wraith has two get out of jail card. Don't forget to check the build browser on the top right of the screen.
>>540010882it affects the impact of slows too.so at 50% debuff res, a 30% slow will only slow you by 15% and the duration will be halved.
>>540012123pisslow, fell off alchemist to seeker
>>540005247I see that Ivy is absent from this list
Some abilities in this game just have too much going for them and it's infuriating >Infernus napalm>Damage amp, healing reduction, movement slow, and lifesteal>Paradox wall>Movement slow, damages you for 9% of your HP, silences, and blocks bullets
>>540012301Time for a new pair of glasses.
>>540012237Sorry anon not sure the game will even let us queue together
>>540012619I'll just hope I'll luck out a lot in a row and escape elo hell. Not like a single defeat seems to count more than victory
>>540012582>Ivy that lowMaybe my eyes just couldn’t believe what they were seeing because players are some of the biggest whingers ever
>>540012841every Ivy player is a quiet caged faggot
>>540005167Gay and retarded
The default minimap ping shouldn't be "i'm going to X"
>>540013080dont be mean
>Statlock assessments>"Oh you lost? your performance was initiate 1">"Oh you Won? your performance was Oracle//Ascendant">takes 15 years to update>cant even check the rank the game outright tells you that you are
Its strange how Calico became fan favorite hero, even overshadowing Abrams as Jane Deadlock
>>540013329... in my dreamsbejitabro btw
>>540011116aegis REFLECTORURRRRAAAAAAAAHH
>>540013329Fan fav to who
>>540005365>Only 10k soul differenceel em ay o
>>540011509Not only that but micro managing your dash/slide spam. Vyper is like the highest micro in the game next to Holliday maybe
>>540013223Speedster is spot on but yet another quirkey human is a waste of slots
>>540012561Well, Paradox kind of needs it, since she kinda sucks otherwise. Infernus has no excuse.
>>54001362025,000 on a Monday? Is this just all Aussies?
>>540013525Fans
>>540005247abrams players are the most self absorbed scumbags idk how he's placed in "normal comms"
hey how do you draw lines in the map?
>>540014014move the mouse over the map
>>540013881Abrams players just hold W in enemy jungle all game they don't usually even interact with the team
>>540013645Doesn't need to be a human just because it's a carhop and a girl.
>>540013881>abrams players are the most self absorbed scumbags idk how he's placed in "normal comms"t. got raped and gaped by an Abrams' players 15 inches
>>540014391Abrams is definitely gorilla modeing
>Mina>with +70 stacks>>>>has the lowest obj damage because she won't ult the objectives>last push>listens to us to use the ult on the weakened patron>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>does not use the blink to get inside the pitAre Mina players illiterate?
>>540014768if the mina did not know to ult objectives what made you think she would know the pit exploit?
>>540014768their one brain cell tells them they must ult from 10 miles in the air.
>>540014768>>540014859I'm pretty sure Mina stays on the ground if you aim upward when you start your ult, so blink isn't even needed, it's just a positioning corrector if you fuck up
>>540015078she does not
>>540004143what this guy said >>540004617. Pray to god that you're 1k or more souls above the enemy or you'll just do no damage.
>>540013620if this game came out at the end of the arena shooter era it would have been the most popular shoot ever. But for the average hero shooter player which is the most popular genre with shooters right now this game is way too hard.
>>540015150I know there's some way to keep her on the ground. Maybe it's having something above her, like ulting when you're in the hallway to the enemy spawn in the pit
>>540015210I think BECAUSE MOBAs are dying this game has a chance, by the time it’s out it can be a 2nd (or I guess 3rd) wave for the genre
>>540015210>for the average hero shooter player which is the most popular genre with shooters right nowBullshit, isn't the most popular Fortnite and then CS2? I don't have my finger on the pulse but Overwatch isn't that big right
>>540015371dota is more popular than ever, I also don't see the average dota or league players pick up a shooter.>>540015418>Bullshit, isn't the most popular Fortnite and then CS2?Yea, but Fortnite is for children and CS2 player won't move to a new game. So for Deadlock to grow it needs to take players from established games like overwatch or rivals.
>>540015308If you want to ult on ground, just jump dash forward, and then ult.
sinclair better model when
>>540015579I do see it had some huge burst in August, did something happen?
>>540015601Ah, okI know she can ult on the ground because I've done it before, but I hadn't bothered to figure out the specific conditions to trigger it yet
guys, does anyone here play the game with a controller? is it enjoyable? are you a drag on the team?
>>540015760
>>540015760>are you a dragNo, I'm straight
>>540015885that's not an answer
>>540015760just play turretmaxxing mcginnis and you'll be good, no need to aim
>>540015919is the aiming that bad on the controller?
>>540016047this game as a big focus on movement, you can't really keep up with all the double jumps, dashes, etc etc with a controller
>>540015727they added the heavy bro
the game needs more hot female heroes
>>540016336More trans hotties in general
>>540016336Pic unrelated that’s a fat cow
op hero
>>540016960so what's his secret to success?
>>540016960true but who says he's not cheating?
>>540017247wouldn't he cheat with vindicta
>>540017204Asian servers are too dead for balanced lobbies anonymous
>>540017204https://statlocker.gg/profile/352358985/matchesim gonna watch this replay later (spoilers he gets a double kill before the 2 minute mark)
>>540016960this is a chinaman who hasn't played since september. probably banned
>>540014859when we told her to use the blink to reposition...I mean she did listen on the ult part.
>>540017436my boy went back to school
>>5400172046 stack with fellow cheaters
>>540017560mid september*which is weird for someone that played so much
>>540017204matchmaking
>>540017842IIRC there are so few Asian players that Eternus groups get regularly matched with people in the low ranks. This is what they abuse to get massive winrates.
>>540016960Abrams is bullshit strong but this guy is either cheating or abusing stacks to shitstomp low lobbies, I've seen lots of Eternus players that have super high winrates then you actually go through their match history and it's all shitlow matches because they queue with their friends on smurfs
So, realistically what are you supposed to do if you lose a lane as Drifter? just tag with a ganker and catch up on stacks?
Any tip as sinclair? Especially the bolt
>>540018062buy CDR and duration to ult during teamfights to blind people.
>>540018136so you go from super scary squishy hunter to ultbot?
>>540017247>>540017591>>540018006the confidence of /vg/ scrubs to assert he's hacking without looking at a single replay is pretty goddamn embarrassing. evidence? who needs that? the winrate is due to shitty matchmaking when queuing with friends + lowish player counts, as other people have pointed out.
>>540018243you weren't a super scary squishy hunter to begin with since you lost lane.you're just trying to maximize your usefulness and coping with having not scaled like you were supposed to.stop spending skill points on your skills and max ult as soon as you realize you aren't ramping.
Watching a replay of his last game now, he doesn't get headshot more than usual and gets parried like 3 times in the first 3 minutes, doesn't look like cheating or abusing new players
>>540018515>>540018290>>540016960>Check his profile>He almost exclusively plays with stacks>If you click on any random match his team average is Eternus while the enemy players are rarely above ArchonYeah he's not a hacker the game's matchmaking is just proven to be dogshit for the millionth time lmao. How the fuck is Valve this incompetent?
>>540018352You racists are completely degenerate.
Imagine two years from now and they’re finally getting rid of Yamato’s alien model but make it a Halloween event where you’re fighting an alien invasion
>>540018996>2 years to finally do that last model updateSlow down there pal do you think Valve is made of money
>anything: happens>viscous: :-Di love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe
what do you guys do to deal with Warden ult? Just in my last couple matches I was having a hard time dealing with it, so are there certain items you buy to resist, or certain actives that fuck him, or is there a stun or CC window where you can fuck him over and cancel it, etc.
FUCKING CUBE
>>540019223>UNH UNH UNH UNH>GREEN DICK IS BETTER THAN BLUE DICK>OH SHIT MOTHERFUCKAA
>>540019261banishment
this game is poo poo, just mindless brawling for 30 minutes, only codmonkeys, battleftrannies, marvel wokes and gaybow sex: siege players could enjoy this slop, reminds me of playing battlerites, yikes!
>>540019261if he's dumb and ults in sight use any CC ability to cancel it, even knockdown can hit him in time if you react fast enough.if you have nothing just do your best to run away from him, just never actually fight him when it's up because you will lose unless your team can actually coordinate focus fire on him.
>>540019432I was playing M&K and knocked him up but I don't think i did shit. Another time I just walked behind him like I would with Bebop beam but obviously his turning isn't effected like the clanker.I never really got a chance to combo him out of it, I don't even know if it would stop it but I assume yeah it does
>>540019463knockdown and his channel are both 2s so you can't use it on reaction
>>540019445>battleriteludo
unemployment hours games hit different
>>540019586Only a stun or curse can stop Warden's ult once he's started chanting IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD!!111! Your best bet after that point is splitting up and running away, but if you're fighting him with your team try to abuse line of sight (like going behind him so he can't face all of you at the same time)
>>540019642sex with blossom
>>540016960>>540017842Matchmaking being so dogshit makes me suspect that every eternus 6 is just there because they're boosted from stuff like this
>>540019729>tfw wageslave and am going to get stomped by neets with nothing to do but get betteronce i get off of workgetting a job was a mistake
>>540019463>>540019792>run away like a bitch is literally the stratI guess I was playing optimally already
>>540019342>BOOM CHIKA AH>BOOM CHIKA AH
>>540019586combo will stop it, if you see him start channeling it dive his ass just to combo him, cancel combo immediately after tapping him with it if it puts you in a bad spot and burrow out.canceling his channel puts it on full cooldown so you can actually play a whole game of him never being able to ult if he keeps doing it out in the open or if you keep catching him like that.>>540019616huh, i thought knockdown was a little bit faster than that.
>Victor gets Debuff RemoverRight so my team now needs three or four silence methods to actually kill Victor
>>540020109more like>victor wastes souls on an item he already has built into his ability with 3 chargeswhat a fucking dumbass.
>>540018728They probably don't gaf because this will all get wiped on release anyway.
>>540019853You're not completely wrong because matchmaking is so shit and the player count is so low that actual Eternus, Ascendant, and even Phantom lobbies happen so players that are in high ranks just get tossed into shitlow lobbies over and over.
>>540020242the ranks are irrelevant nobody actually gives a fuck about that it's moreso the fact that matches are wildly unbalanced and whatever system they're using is just plain horrible
>teammate gets first death after 15 minutes >"zzz gg go next">abandonswhat is going through these people's minds when they do this
Man Bebop fucking sucks.You need a lot of skill to even use his kit, and then there's no fucking damage, like 25k average. Some fucking Victor with muh le aura walks staright to the enemy and does more damage. How is this balance? Is Yoshi retarded furfag?
>>540020684league of legends induced brainrot
>>540016960>>540017398From 10mn onward after winning his lane he's just veil walking + fleetfoot around to catch niggas in their jungle and take all their camp, I'll try that next game
>>540020710Bebop used to be good, but he had to be sacrificed at the altar of "hook characters can't be good" gods.
So my account is definitely glitched. I have a 75% winrate at the moment and my account will not rank up, so I am stuck at initiate 1. Its cool cuz every game feels like an easy win, but it also sucks cuz I need to improve. My friend who I duo with is still ranking up from these games though, and I wonder if me being glitched at initiate 1 while he ranks up will just consistently give us initiate games while he gets up into higher brackets, or if it will equalize our ratings and find something more in the middle ground.Anyways its kinda gay and annoying and im debating making a new steam account just so I can rank up
I took an edible for the first time, during a 18 hour flight and read some mark zuckerberg meme that got stuck in my head. the man car, trench coat wearing robot man with headlights in a hood>A crazed media tycoon wanted to be best friends with his car, so he threw kyle into the assembly line.. and kyle become the only living person to survive the mancar project.Has a short range flamethrower and a grenade launcher that's on a timed fuse>Exhaustcreates a smoke cloud that slowly becomes more debilitating the longer enemies are in it. can shoot as a grenade>Burning Rubberskates on wheels in his feet, dealing collision damage and transforming for a duration. Grants bonus move speed, and can move at full speed in any direction, use again to have another burst of speed and consume stamina. Can drive up walls and on ceilings as long as he doesn't stop. grenades explode on impact and have a dot. >Red lightprojects a cone of red light from his mancar eye's, any unit that moves in this light is lit on fire, disarmed and silenced. >The mancar projectTurns an enemy into a car, disabling them and making them immune to slows and other stuns. They damage their allies on collision. The enemy explodes after a duration, turning other nearby heroes into mancars. Forced W movement while debuffed.
>>540014014well see I draw some funny lines until I've spelled out nigger and pointed it at a DEI carry who has been in jungle for 25 minutes now
>>540020809Any sign of maphack/wallhack?
>flamethrower herocan you imagine the cancer
>>540021069Not that I see, he gets caught around a corner a couple of times and got juked aswell. Some great movement but nothing that looks hacked
>>540021087Pyro is fine.
>>540021559ok now let's make a pyro-like hero in deadlock, they'll have some sort of hard CC, maybe flight, probably blind you and/or infinite scaling
>>540020684blame esports unironically. like these people created the surrender culture in games and then doubled down by streaming their whiny personalities to the world and impressionable young faggots assumed that was acceptable behaviour because they saw twitch man do it.
>I have a 75% winrate at the momentNice smurf! No one cares.
>>540019642they should add that design for druid
>>540020710>>540020843Problem with Bepop is that they gave the hook to a damage dealer type of character. Give the hook to a support where he needs the follow-up from its team to capitalise and the people would not complain as much. Sylvanus from Smite is a great example of that.
>>540021830every moba needs doe pussy
Why the fuck are people smurfing in a goddamn invite only alpha?
>>539992216I have a bad habit of getting greedy and punished for it, or trying to help a teammate when I'm jungling close by.
>>540021990So they can act like niggers.>Have a bad lane>Straight up just abandon the game with no consequence and hop onto another smurf>Have a good lane>Rape new playersThere's a reason Valve blanket banned all of these cunts for 6 months in DOTA.
>>540021990for ez wins
>Seven gets fed in lane>Talks shit all game>Laning phase is over and suddenly my team enters gamer mode>Hunt him down together and swipe his team clean after he's dead>He starts raging then abandonsYeah, good one, faggot. Pick the highest winrate hero in the game then baby rage when you can't auto-pilot to victory.
I just realized Seven turns back to parry to make enemy touch the exposed wiring
>>540022146>Seven literally just has to spam his abilities off cooldown to win laneAnd yet the amount of times I've played with sevens who refuse to use their stun/ball aggressively to fuck with players. It's wild. He can afford to be SO aggressive.
i feel like sinclair is op as fuck, nobody plays him properly. everyone knows about his laning and splitpushing but getting ~25+% damage amp on a huge aoe is insane if you just hold it and time it when your team is actually doing damage, not just randomly turning enemies into rabbits when you feel like it. also sinclair players dont use his ult enough, they all go for meme plays with dynamo/lash/seven ults etc when you can just build for rabbit and take something like drifter ult, kelvin ult, even calico ult and break every teamfight with superior duration. the opportunity cost for stealing a mediocre ult is nothing when the cooldown is so low.
>>540021820Not even a smurf, I started playing 2 weeks ago. I my account just doesnt rank up so Im glitched and stuck playing initiate 1 games where I can carry. I want to rank up and have more even matches which is why im asking if an alt account will allow for that.
>>540022272Seven is a very weak laner pre-ult
>>540022464No he isn'tHe can spam a hardstun every 19 seconds and shred them with ball, his 3 makes it impossible to push his tower because of how fast he clears minions
>>540004143Oh, I forgot to say, get Veilwalker.
>>540022464KEK STOP TALKING
>>540022548he clicks uu click himu win. every time. that simple
>>540022464That's right, that's why he sits at "only" 55.45% and every game he has a massive souls lead over everyone else.
>>540022715he has a bullet steroid, nuke, stun and 25% built in headshot resistance. if you lose lane on seven you're an actual fucking retard.
>>540022819other heroes also have skillsand no giant heads
>>540008602>gt deserves and should get his wish>vindicta should notwhy? their goals are basically the same
>>540022908Are you implying Abrams or Billy have the same lane presence and farming capability as Seven?
>>540017842I'm in Seeker 1 (match average is usually Seeker 4) and I've started recognize names of other players.
deadlock? more like cucklock, a game you have to play wearing your cuckcage, hahaha!
>>540022372No you just need to keep winning. Ranks work with a hidden elo, just like dota (except its visible in dota).800 MMR - initiate 11000 MMR - initiate 2etc.you're literally just so far below 800 that you need to keep winning to start seeing rank upgrades
Could someone please do the needful? Friend code 103205774
>>540023862no one gave me an invite in this general full of dogs, I had to go elsewhere to get it
>my highest winrate characters are all characters I don't like playingWhat causes this
>>540022464Obscurus is talking. Shut up and listen.
I'll be honest, I know it's degenerate gameplay but I'm enjoying playing at the gunman. No thinking, just shooting big ass slow rounds into peoples skull
>streamers shill against Trophy Collector>Trophy Collector is actually really good
>>540024213Gun is always good if you can shoot
>>540022783games don't end at laningwell maybe yours do because you feed ragequit and go on next smurf shitter LMFAO
since last week i now have 10+ deaths in every gamei used to do okay idk what happened to me
>>540024747you're a broolbrain and reached a rank where people start fighting back a little
>>540024421>Compare stats to the other jew item with the same price (cultist), it loses in every way>Compare stats to every other T2 item (half price), it loses in every way>Compare stats to every other T3 item (same price), it loses in every way>Compare stats to any of the T1 items that give one of the same stats, it loses >Do the maths on the SPM given by the item, fucking nothingNo anon there is not a conspiracy it's just a poorly designed item
McGinnis' turrets are unfun to play against
>>540024840i was demoted thoi went from alchemist to seeker....
>>540024925what's unfun about it? the ginnis presses a button and you get 50 souls for free.
>>540024421Only if you can make the ability range matter for ur character. The extra souls you get can add up over time especially the earlier you get max stacks but spending that much for 3200 for something that doesn't do anything is very rough. Meanwhile buying cultist and hitting something as soon as possible (very easy if you're on a sideline and get it around 8 minutes) you immediately get a ton of useful stat boosts and a quick boost in souls from a t3 creep
you can Siphon Bullets enough hp away from Abrams in the hideout that he becomes immortal.
HIRE fANS YOSHIIII!
if icefraud doesn't evolve this game from a simple and stupid 30 minutes brawler it will have no future, he needs to start making the players use their brains and play strategically, the way the game is you can't even have a competitive scene
>build doesnt have stamina mastery as core itemit's like making a dota build without brown boots or any boots at all.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO MAKE DAMAGE AS BEBOP
>>540025554but you could win by splitpushing?
>>540025439ugly hands typed that
>>540025439>dirty faceWow. I kneel.
>>540025439Both models have an ugly potato face
>>540025929you can't
>>540025685Alright, first you need to have sex with transgender.
>>540026013but you can
so every bebop build is just shit?how do you make this character good and fun?
>>540025683>>540026134Fuck off
>>540025683>stamina mastery is boots>not enduring speed
>>540025159she can place too many and every sentry can be buffed with heroic aura, healing tempo and can apply all the spirit-procced debuffs plus they take too many shots to kill
>>540026309tell your gun carry to buy ricochet and make her completely useless.
>>540026296is enduring speed any good?
>>540026013you can splitpush and fly to mid brool to have 1 more brooleryou have to be playing ivy tho
I spammed mcginnis for a day and now my lmb finger hurts
>>540026184>>540026013mcginnis has one of the highest winrates in shitlow for a reason retard anon
>>540025554jungle rework, trust the plan
>>540027087Wow you actually are stupid huh
everyday i am reminded that the average person here is beyond dogshit, possibly downright mentally disabled
>>540027087the reason being turrets don't miss 90% of their shots like every shitlow player
the problem is the map is too small and overcrowded, 6 players in 3 lanes is retarded, the game has no chance of not being a brawling fest
>>540025554>if icefraud doesn't evolve this game from a simple and stupid 30 minutes brawlerThey've removed significant moba aspects of the game. It's become more of a hero brawler and less of a moba.
>>540026402it's ok
>>540027393I think the nonstop BROOLs are because of the ziplineI think the zipline is a cool feature and definitely should stay, but I think people just use it like they have infinite TP scrolls to try to get to any skirmish so they can try and scavenge for kills
>>540027412All they did was gut the terrible last hitting mechanics, dumbass.
>>540025683i mean not stamina mastery but arcane/kinetic surge
>>540028070stamina mastery is actually pretty good, but somewhat niche. kinetic dash should be on almost every build. arcane surge feels more niche since sometimes the duration/range boost just doesn't matter
>>540028279kindash was good when it didn't consume extra stam on dash jumpnow it's niche
>>540028070>>540028279even extra stamina is insane early game, one more stamina bar is crazy good here.
>>540028505I disagree, the firerate/ammo increase is always good. and it's cheap as a t2. even some spirit builds can run it if the hero has a strong gun
>>540027412so icefraud gets to ruin TWO games!?
How do I play Mo&Krill? Do I just go full gank rapist the moment I get ult?
>>540029084>should I build stacks with my stack building ability I wonder
instead of reworking mo they should just publicly announce mo and krill are gay lovers. that would lower their pickrate
i think my account is bugged and a flag is set to make me take double damage
>>540024925ginny's turrets are the closest thing this game has to controlling extra units like in dota, they're fine
so why doesn’t drifter have killstreak voicelines?It’s just the patron sperging “I WANT THE DRIFTER’S HEAD”
I feel bad for this guy's team
why the fuck does affliction go through walls
>>540004740>lash>one of the worst guns in the gameposts like this are a reminder to not take discussion too seriously here
>>540003415I loveplaying ivy, im aimlet so it feels so good to play bomb build.
>>540027840Zipline boost is just a retarded mechanic and shouldnt exist
>tell the team we should be running urn>they start sperging and throwing racial slursthe higher my mmr gets, the worse mental these people have. completely carried by their rivals/overwatch experience, no clue about how to play a moba.
>>540029845Is that you ?
>>540030329After I reached the top ELO lobbies, every other game there's some crybaby that gives up over the slightest misplay or death it's the worst fucking shit
>>540030379No, I'm was a goo, just having a fun time.
>>540003415
>>540030447>get high mmr>get inflated ego
>>540030447the unemployed, the unloved
>>540030447this game is full of americans, get used to it
which characters have the best stuns?
>>540031134Haze, Wraith, Infernus.
>>540030618Why is the sapphire flame so powerful? The map is symmetrical.
how 2 play abrams? building only green btw
>>540031309run into people and try not to get caught out. in higher elos people know how to deal with you so you become more team reliant
>>540031410any epic gamer tips? im not a meleefag. i have 500 hours in the game btw
>>540030618>>540031290
>>540031290it is not symmetyrical
link me your favorite movement guide
Would Trophy Collector AND Cultist Sacrifice be too greedy on Geist?
Sauce on the boobie snake? I forgot to save it
>>540031268kek
>>540031309Shoot people point blank instead of going for telegraphed h melees, if they reflex parry you can punch after but your whole gimmick is playing mind games
>>540029876anyone that complains about affliction should play some pocket games, I promise youre first game will cause you to never complain about affliction again
While I'm in support of deleting coomer content from the board it's pretty insane that our OP gets zapped while 90% of the threads on the index have a half naked anime girl for the OP
>>540030985yeah okay zigger sure it's 'americans'
>>540032130nigga he is one of the best heroes in the game right now
>>540031954yes. the best thing about cultist is t3 ability upgrade powerspike on first use at 8-9min. trophy collector doesn't do that so it's bad
>>540032169paid advertising generals
>>540031954depends on whether your team is good and/or you are raping your opponents
>>540032223I know, but Im talking specifically hitting the affliction
>>540031290>>540030618>>540031631the secret is that amber hand is the designated forced 50 team unironically
>>540032223next you're going to say "Mina is OP!"
>>540032405no i think she's pretty reasonable right nowspirit burn needs to be fixed and i think love bites should be toned down early but scale better late, but that's about it
>Play one of my double down arrow heroes>Get put into a match 2 rank tiers above my ownhuh
do Paige mains like plap or plap plap?
>>540032680they're all men so it's irrelevant
>>540032169I'd normally say "go bug the IRC about it" but they're currently dealing with subhumans spamming illegal content. Be glad this general isn't one of the targets
>>540005247>Billy in bro tierhalf the Billys I see crash out halfway through the match when they can't 1v6, get the fuck outta here
>>540032842That's just bros playing the character.
>>540005247billys and lash are never bro tier. victors are toxic tier if they know how to farm. i
>>540032223by what metric
>>540005247this chart is the most wrong chart ive ever seen holy moly
>>540033053by the metric of shitting on lane, shitting on teamfights, having some of the best mobility in the games and being capable of singlehandedly winning games when played by someone competent
>Krill all alone in our jungle>All of his team is spread out in other lanes>Sees me on top of a roof and comes to grab me>Don't die because he's a dumbass who is alone and out of position while my team is close by>suddenly, all 6 enemies are here for some reasonThe fuck is wrong with this game? Literally how do people consistently do this? Do enemies have a secret Mirage ult that I'm unaware of?
>>540033235noooooooooo but he has minus spirit res so it doesnt count he's a low tier hero but its just that im so good okt. average pocket cunt
>>540033386called looking at the minimap
>decide to play vindicta>kelvin in lane>he buys knockdown 1st item>chases me everywhere on the map to use it on my off cooldown>cases me into my team and dies repeatedly>it's not even good because I'm building around stake anywayholy fucking retard imagine throwing your entire game to counter maybe the worst character in the game
John Deadlock just can't win a game!
>>540031954are you trying to come online at 60 minutes? what kind of dogshit build is that?
>>540030985I play on Europe it's usually Russians
>>540033235why does the win rate not reflect any of this
>>540034102according to statlock pocket and paradox are the best laners in the game
>>540032405is this what gaben based abrams around? hes literally a jojo character
>>540033993but he got you mad enough to make you post on this forum
>>540031309I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON!
>>540034102reread the last 5 words of the post
>>540034203nah it's blue hellboy
>>540031309>only greendon't do that.>>540034236
>>540034236>all those h melees with ONE (1) parry attemptbros...
>>540034164that's the lane part but not the teamfight part. Pocket's winrate is sub 50% even at the highest ranks.
>>540034236When people make fun of the clutter of xenoblade 2 I should post this webm as a counter.
>>540034565everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.
>>540034361Is there evidence to back up what you are saying or are you just theorycrafting?
>>540034780pub ranks sure. there's a reason why he wrecks pro games and why most pocket players are tryhard cunts
Thoughts on gun Victor anons? Lets discuss. I want to hear your thoughts anon.
>zerggy smurfing AGAINwhen's he getting permad?
You get restricted communications for crying on a mic constantly, I get communication restricted for calling my teammates "the blackest gorilla niggers ever" in chat.Don't even @me. We are not the same.
>>540034961pocket has been in the top tier of every single one of these tournaments for a reason
>>540035102it's a (you) on this website you fucking double gorilla nigger
>>540034991building around the third skill is pretty bad, so it's probably good.
>>540035140I see, that makes sense.
>>540034780>teamfight partAffliction is the only non-cleansable anti-heal in the game, whilst also dealing %health damage, a single good affliction instantly wins you a teamfight by itself.
>>540030236do you think the zipline overall is good though? I do like it, but I also think it turns players into ADD retards who see any kind of fighting on the minimap and immediately start ZOOOOOPLOOOOOONING over and neglect waves and ignore camps or whatever.overall I think it's a good mechanic, but also it makes shitty players play even more shittily and it might take the community a while before they collectively understand how to properly take advantage of it
>ult close to the ground as mina>ult radius is the size of a pixelbravo bravo, good job icefrog
>>540034991Filthiest gorilla niggerest hero, deserves delete from yoshi
>>540035207I noticed for gun Victor you can ignore his 3 entirely and just buy the Blood Ritual item (or whatever it is called) and use that instead. No cooldown and builds up Pain Barrier. To use your self heal you just de-activate it.
>>540035140>all the heroes /dlg/ considers OP>uncontested
>>540034991probably one of the better builds unironically unless the enemy team is full spirit vomitLeech and frenzy make you not a walking creep especially against gun heroes
>>540035372>initiates are shit at the gameYour point?
i have become a billy spammer and i gotta say it's pretty fun just never giving a shit about anyone trying to kill you after 15 minutes
>>540035347If someone plays Victor but wants to stop, what hero should they choose to focus on after him that is somewhat similar but what you consider good?>>540035408>not a walking creepI audibly lol'd. He really can't use his 3 for a gun build without spirit resist, but I'm thinking perhaps you can if you get spirit slow and the fire rate one that Sevens pick up and just apply that with aura and then deactivate it. Every fight I notice 1-2k damage I've received is from my aura alone and I have spirit resist 30-40%.
>>540035359Are you me? I've made the same discovery. I do like Berserker on him since you can either toggle aura, use the heal or use Blood Ritual to pretty much 100% uptime on Berserker. I still don't know if you should drop spirit resist because the game is pretty much spirit meta right now. His health gain is rather shit per boon.
>>540035293oh wah wah your turbo kill everything 500000 dps ult only has a giant massive AoE if you cast it safely from 500 feet in the air
yeah, this game is pure doo doo, no skill involved at all, the fun characters are weak and the braindead characters are op
>>540036154it doesn't have aoe at all
>>540033536It's called, they're spread out too far and can't rotate in 5 seconds
>>540036560what if they were schmoovin?
>>540031290where do i see this
think if you pick ivy and u're not the result of several generations of inbreeding you have 90% chance of winning the game
>>540010161Mina should've been given a pair of spectacles.
>>540036306>saying this during a meta where the only heroes that aren't seeing play are the ones that just hold left click
trophy collector is actually good on dogshit heroes (dynamo) who are low econ (dynamo) who have no presence in lane (dynamo) who dont really make use of powerspikes (dynamo) and benefit from ability range (dynamo)i mean the gist of this is that you can have a carry solo farm the side lane while dynamo perma runs box routes and tries to make kills with the knockup. the double benefit of this is that sometimes the side laner will get pushed in 2v1 which is just a free ult for dynamo
>>540036646Then they should make it in about 15 seconds after the Krill is dead, unless they're a character with a ton of speed boosts, in which case, sure.
>>540037352I still believe in him
This game needs more hot anthro girls but I'm not a furry.
>be viscous>press ult>run over peoplelife is goood
>>540016336True.
>>540036306The Lash is fun and strong.
>>540037464Brewmaster panda, icefrog? Perfect for the chinese characterplease no boring monkey king sunwukong bullshit
>>540037464Magic shapeshifting fox girl, but has an insufferable personality
i havent played for a week, decided to play two games today. i cant, i have to wait for matchmaking to be fixed. im being put with actual retard braindead teammates that play this shit like marvel rivals. im done for now guys
>>540037768>play this shit like marvel rivalsit is marvel rivals tho
>>540037352I know Infernus, and Drifter are still meta, is there anyone else I'm forgetting?Very trust worth smile, but why is his face blue?
>>540037352like Dynamo?
>>540037938drifter and infernus are both currently unpicked-tier in comp matches lol
>>540038043Infernus still holds left click to win though
>>540034026In my head Trophy Collector would take up a space normally devoted to Greater Expansion while allowing me to farm like a maniac.
>>540037768there is nothing wrong with the matchmaking, you get what you deserve.
>>540037671>>540037464no furries
>>540037938this is the meta >>540035140Heroes that see a lot of play are lane dominators, teamfighters and frontliners. Carries are mostly forgotten. Even heroes like Warden and Seven are low priority because of their pathetic laning.
>>540038290>eternus players like deathy, metro, zerggy all complain about the matchmaking>aktcually ur'ure just badnah man. regardless, i just cant anymore.
>>540038348Comp games aren't entirely reflective of the pub meta because they tend to last 20-25 minutes, which is why all of the farm heavy heroes are picked a total of 0 times
>>540035140That's because holliday got gutted, therefore everyones reverting to paradox for the "free midgame pickoff that wins you the game" role in a team.
>>540038371to be fair, those guys are bitch made and complain about everything all the time
>>540037464When doe hero, icefraudo?
>>540037671Yoshi, do this and my life is yours...
Pro play is vastly different from everyones pubs and they are capable of actually pushing advantages gained early game hence why strong early and mid game heroes are preferred. I don't even like playing against Pocket myself but holy fuck is it cringe midwit shit to base your opinions on the game and the meta off of what happens in pro play. You faggots will only cite winrates or picks / bans if it fits your narrative.
>Walkable citiesYoshiiii cars dont make sense, make the roads wider and add some bullshit gate out of the city (Park doesnt count)
>Enemy lane: Paige + Mo>Our lane: Viscous + Victor>can't focus either because of shields and damage>krill punishes everything you try>can't hit Paige because of shieldwow we just couldn't do anything and lost the patron in record time because Paige bought multishot and cleared waves in 2 seconds while Krill jumps in and deals spirit damage and is unkillable the entire laning phasewtf you're supposed to do?
I almost lost a 6v5 because both the holliday and lash from our team couldn't stop feeding the enemy teams yamato and the team was super uncooperative. I had to go back and forth defending lanes as viscous and could barely participate in any team fight because of that.
>>540039059I will ignore this post and continue to shit on all pocket players
>>540039059Pocket is still good at all stages of the game though. He shits on pubs just as much as "pro" games because he is a strong character when played correctly.
>>540038371name 5 games where people don't complain about bad matchmaking.
How do I counter pocket? silence?
>>540037931But worse
I think the worst experience ive had in a lane is still against seven and haze where i just took 400 damage instantly any time i got in range to try and get some souls
>>540039230tf2, cs2, day of defeat source, pirates vikings and knights 2, fistful of frags
>>540039215I don't even think Pocket is particularly weak I am simply saying basing your opinions on the game around pro play is relentlessly cringe 95% of /dlg/ is below even Ritualist realistically
Imagine if one day they make heroes of the storm but 3D like this.Instead of league of legends but 3D.
>>540039339I hit Ritualist I yesterday!
We need more heroes like Paige
>>540039252he gets to mleap on you, shit on you, and then get out scott free and yes, the pocket player will believe he's better than you for it
Is it worth getting into the game now? Is the game in a good state or is it still super rough?
>can't get out of initiate because most of matches have people quitting the game so the match doesn't count
>>540039575It's free
>>540039435i am a little sick of the fact that 90% of characters need to be in your face to do any real damage
>>540039575Matchmaking has never been worse
>>540039575It's fun for the first 30 matches, then it turns into Dota 2 but sweatier
>>540039435TRUE!
>>540039435I dont like her cheerful attitude>This one is one of my favorites! :DBitch youre about to get shot at say something like "Burn!" "Here comes the dragon" or whatever
Sometimes I buy colossus on Vindicta and imagine her stepping on me
>>540038273fully stacked it's not even half the ability range.
>>540039575every major update is worth checking out if you're interested in the game.it's not in a state where I would encourage you to spend 80 hours a week grinding it like the failed overwatch pros currently are though.t. 700 hours so far
>>540040143Colossus makes them grow like, 1ft.
Yeah all of the infernus bitching here makes a lot of sense. Playing with a friend who is new-ish to the game and decided to play infernus to help carry his weight, we end up in lower rank lobbies and 2 of the 3 matches the enemy laners just let me get afterburn on them non-stop which would almost never happen so easily in my archon lobbies (which I know isn't even that high of a rank). Just goes to show the type of people in here that cry about him.
>I just saved the whole game with my Knockdownwhat being a nodamage Bebop did to me, it was my the most useful act in 40 minutes
>>540037671wow fem pandas my belovedSEXO
>>540040409You gotta play with what you have
i realized it doesn't really matter if you win/lose lane as long as you can make the right decisions to get your farm back in the mid game you will be fine, and that's where the more impactful stuff happens anyway
>bullets going through people>getting melee'd a mile away>everything feels out of sync>teammates never play together while enemy team doesnot a deadlock day I geuss.
>>540040497I wish this character were better. I fell in love with him when I started playing a year ago and all I received in return is pain.
Valve should add a hero with a flower motif to this game in the next update.
why are the voiceliness at half volume some games, please answer me icefrog
I came back to the game after a long time, I remember calico being teased when I quit.What should I know now?Should I stay in lane? Roam? Its like a whole different game now
>>540041050I notice this happens when I play Calico for some reason, is it the same for you
>>540040784It matters if your lane enemies get to successfully rotate and snowball one guardian lead to three + urn.
>>540041003there is already a druid character in the filesif they're supposed to replace trapper i'll kill myself
>>540041003>>540041226Isnt Boho basically this?
Bruh look at this goofy ass
>>540041310boho's abilties are about chaining enemys together and then sending a projectile to bounce between them
>>540041310Nevermind I dont know why I thought she was flower based hero
>>540041414I would marry her
>>540041094roam too much and you'll be at a soul deficit. this is why everyone is doing m.rounds-cult sac atm so they can move around a bit more freely without falling behind and counter jungle
>>540041132yep, only on calico
>win lane and take guardian>go for a gank>enemies push the lane back, take guardian, and are now above you in farmmhm
it's another "ivy decides to farm our entire jungle starving us and then gets mo ulted over and over" episode
>>540036337the fuck are you talking about
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>540041721yeah figured it's about her specifically
>got my inviteOkay so what am I in for?
>>540041913Sounds like a (you) problem.
>>540041414She will 100% look better for the release. Remember how the new heroes looked like in the leak?
>>540042038I got an ivy player problem
>>540041310she looks too ugly >>540041414
>>540041957The damage is split between available targets. Its actually worse the more people you target. Opposite of AoE
>>540042063I'm just teasing, I think she looks cute4 alreadyShe just has a goofy "cheesed to meet you" smile
>get paige ulted during a shoulder charge>now my FOV is super wide and my view is pushed backah so this is how people are doing psychic parries. FOV cheats.
Who was the retard that out those AI generated Ivy pics before we even had a proper look at her?
>kelvin on enemy team>game is instantly twice as hard to winthis nigger needs to be gutted yesterday
>>540042414mo is the biggest offender of this, even the biggest mega retard is a menace on it
The perfect day:Paige main giving me sloppy, Mo main strapped to a chair in my torture chamber, and Yoshi's decapitated head on my desk.
>>540042414dome needs to be breakable or he will be perma metapick for objectives.>confirms rejuv>confirms urn>can save a tower>can stall when caught>can stall enemy ending the game>can stop you from stopping him from ending the gameetc
When are they adding Necrophos to the game? No Victor is not the same.
i never see this bitch, but when i do she always a cunt to play against
>>540042364No idea but I saved them.>the AI coomposter that saved Deadlock
>it's an Ivy won't shut up from minute 4 about everyone else sucking and how he's ascendant but somehow manages to go 0-8-0 in 30 minutes in an Archon game episode
>>540042414You don't like being ricochet ice beamed from the skybox and domed at every objective?
Some of the blackest niggas be complaining about the most honest heroes like mo today.
Every match about five minutes in I tell my teammates my boss called and I have to leave in thirty minutes.This has caused my winrate to go up quite a bit since my teammates are inspired to push every advantage and not waste time farming, and as an added bonus all my matches end pretty quickly.I'm a genius
>>540042707WEG tier
Good beginner picks and builds?
>>540042164since it silences and does % of current hp damage best case scenario is still hitting 6 enemies, but yeah not aoe
>>540042715What's his username cause I played with an Ivy that pulled that exact same shit kek, got him 2 games in a row, he whined all of game 1 and played like ass then second game he abandoned
>>540042707Still cute
I love getting a kill with djinn's mark on a rat running away from me as mirage
>>540042702>wah buff her PLSretard niggas here in /dlg/ literally wishing for a cancerous metaIf heroes like haze and vyper become meta, the game will become so unfun, yet these faggots here will cry and downplay
>>540042775I don't get peoples issue with mo. Just don't be alone.
>>540042715I just instamute anyone that says or does anything other than in-game callouts or pre-game banter. I don't need to hear or see arguments to know a game is fucked.
why do people even pick bebop if they're just going to play him passively in lane? what even is the point of that?
>>540042815Nice try but I know you're unemployed.
>>540042982Those heroes are easier to counter than nigfernus or mo or seven though
>All the game changingly good heroes are mindnumbingly boring to play>all the fun and interesting heroes get repeatedly nerfed despite taking an enormous amount of skill over aforementioned heroesi dont see this being healthy for the game in the long run
>>540043105Because I'll fucking die if I don't play passively against anyone other than telegraphed heroes like Abrams.
>>540043258Like?
>>540043159and it should stay that wayThey are very uninteractive outside of hold m1 on you for a gorillion dmg outside of their meme spirit builds
>>540043258I notice that these posts never have examples because its such a shit take
>>540043159I would say Haze is in a nice spot now, she could lose lane and then farm just to carry late game. Now she takes a bit more effort to be useful.But Vyper? How the fuck do you counter 700+ dps.
>>540043154Your mom pays me for sex so I'm more like a gig worker.
>>540043258>Team is all D-Tier "fun" characters>Enemy has Nigfernus, Warden, Seven, MoKrillIt is cancer
Kelvin is balanced, he needs like 10 seconds to do anything to any hero and just explodes late game.
>>540043381yeah mo or seven pressing 4 is much more interactive
>>540043370>game changingly goodKelvinWardenMo and LesterAbramsMirage>fun but nerfedSinclairHolliday (deserved desu)
>>540043726>miragegod no
>Dodge out of the way of Mo and Krill>Character snaps back to their position as I get ulted anywayNice hero. I guess he just had better (or worse!) internet than I do.
>>540043789just because you can't aim and don't know how to abuse being literally anywhere on the map at any time doesn't make him not game changingly good retard-kun
>>540043812>Dash Twice away from a heavy melee on reaction>Still get hit somehowI know I should just parry but what the fuck
>>540043812>Scorn hits through walls>Ult hits you from 50 feet away even if you achieve tons of verticality Dishonest nigger hero
>>540043664>complaining about 7 pressing 4shitlow detectedbuy knockdown + skill issue
>>540041723I like to completely rape my lane before I leave>kill guardian>take ALL camps>then rotate a guy away
>>5400414141 braincell
Alright bros I haven't been here in a little while, we're crying about Mo today right?
>>540043451https://deadlock.wiki/Return_Firehttps://deadlock.wiki/Metal_Skinhttps://deadlock.wiki/Plated_Armornegro YOU HAVE multiple ITEM THAT COUNTERS ALL GUN ON A SINGLE BUTTON PRESS or even passively FUCKYOUFUCK FUCK YOU
>>5400438402 minute cd and all of his other abillties have been nerfed to be just shit
>>540044035>55% winrate all skill levelshrm
>>540044035Every Seven runs unstoppable so that only goes so far >B-But that means he's weaker early game right???No because of his bullshit spirit shred basekit tesla bullets and stun he's relevant at every point in the game
>>540042836You're right but Ivy is still hot
Played dash-fernus for the first time. Just jesus christ man what is this shit. Played "standard" infernus plenty of times before and it was just okay but playing a dash build using one that didn't even seem that good (no move speed of any kind of anything) and it's so hard for the enemy to stop you without CC.
>>540044186only plated armor is useful and that's a t4
Are all deadlock streamers smurfing shitstains?
>>540044186>return fire>metal skinvyper is fast enough she can go away for four seconds and come back to rape you againdo you even play this game?
>>540044313https://tracklock.gg/players/96460013You are in pisslow. No wonder dashfernus works.
>>540044474Movement slows and CC exist? Do you just let every enemy get away from you?
>>540044487dash fernus works in every elo, shit is retarded strongall the area denial you get, the floor is literally lava
deadlock? more like badgame lmaothey need to reduce the matches to 8v8 instead of 12vs12 so you can actually play the map
>>540044474NIGGER THATS WHERE YOU BLOW HER UP WITH CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC AND YOUR SPIRIT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKES SHE HAS TO GET UP CLOSE AS AS SQUISHY SEXY LIZARD thank you for coming to my ted talk now have fun blowing up every single walmart lot lizard that only gets a tiny bit of dmg resist while sliding. actual skill issue if you can't nuke or at least get the fuck away from an equal resource lizard.
>>540043921That's netcode. For them, you were still there. If this is an issue with you, then your parry reaction needs to be very quick. Otherwise, the attack will go through the parry on your side, and in replay, there will be no parry attempt shown.
>>540043812meanwhile I holliday lassoed someone and they got stuck on a ledge instead of being pulled towards my character
>tfw you ignore brools and focus on objectives
They need to make someone that has an ability they can use while dead. Make it their ultimate.
>Bebop does the same damage as supportsShould I go full support and buy healing? Why is this game cucking me
>>540043921>I know I should just parry but what the fuckNot even because they can just change the angle so parrying on sound it's nowhere near reliable.
>>540044737>they need to reduce the matches to 8v8 instead of 12vs12
>oh a typoyeah nigger, deal with it
>>540044829I do this and then eventually get asked by some mouthbreather what am I doing
>>540045151stfu phone nigger
Proper DFC Vyper wouldn't have been deleted.
>>540044778>That's netcode. For them, you were still there.absolutely not true, this happens even in the local training/lobby.The heavy melee range is absolutely massive and extends way over the punch
>>540045151>four typos>same typo twicebrainlet
why do russians and other third worlders have to deny deny deny that maybe their internet isn't suited for online multiplayer?
>>540045175>decide to suicide dive a tower since we need it for a flex slot>succeed but not without some retard on mic whining about itthese people shouldn't be in the playtest desu
>>540044624good players don't touch the ground
>>540042576>>confirms rejuv>>confirms urnhow long has it been since you played this game?
>>540045440t. low skill germanoid
>finally climb back to ritualist>lose 3 games in a rowI will never see Emissary again
>>540044487whose profile is that supposed to be?
>>540043921its the same for heavy melee>heavy melee>character animation is done and im back to idle animation>they then parry>im stunned
Quick hot reminder that inhouses in 30-45 minutesBe there or be trans
>>540045880I'm at work you European animal
>>540045880Do you accept Seeker players?
>>540045880can i be there if I'm already trans?
>>540044186>downplaying niggersonly works when the haze/vyper is clinically retarded and underfed/getting gankedYou literally cannot 1v1 these heroes when they don’t even have a bloodscent passive
im so tired of losing games before they even start because the enemy team is the 6 strongest heroes of the patch and mine is the 6 weakest
>Get harassed like mad at the start of laning phase>Rush healbooster on Dynamo>They can't fucking kill me because I just press 3 and regen/stick close to the heal creepIt was quite funny how the knuckleheads kept trying to kill me multiple times and fail.
>>540011563Well yeah it's a fucking test animation no one was supposed to see
>>540046048https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk
You can now choose two heroes to avoid in your games. Who do you pick?
>>540008602What's the difference between "deserve" and "should get"
>>540046172mo and mina
Why do both the Merchant and The Doorman offer tickets to South Pacific? What's special for that place? Is this a New York thing?
>>540046172seven twice
paige= plap
>>540046172mina and pocket because he's associated with mina in the lore
>>540046172Infernus and Lash but now I'll be waiting 40 minutes between games
>>540046334rodgers & hammerstein musical on broadway at the time
>>540046172>haze>vypernow I can spam victor
if they added a draft matchmaking would likely be better
>>540046143i can only pick one top tierwhen the rest of my team is 5 garbage heroes it's not possible to carry
Boundless spirit just feel like a noob trap.There are SO many items in the game that add spirit power either as a stat bonus to the item or as a special condition that boundless just seems far too expensive for what it gives. I unironically think it needs some kind of buff to make it viable. Improved spirit seems like a pretty fair cost in comparison
>>540046917>if they added a draft matchmaking would likely be better>draft with only 32 heroesAre you stupid?
>>540046143I don't want to pick Kelvin or Mo n Krill every game, they're boring as fuck man
>>5400469475 of the weakest is infinitely better than 6 of the weakest. Don't be part of the problem.
draft and bans wont really work cause of the hero pool, but at least a pick phase would help immensely
mo and krill are boring to play, but I still play them because I enjoy playing the wacky moleman and his monkey jockeysame reason i play viscous, his kits okay and all but it's not like I'd be touching him if he had vindicta's personality or some shit
>>540047060well its good thing its an alpha and there are plans for more heroes
>>540045963>>540045965>>540045987Absolutely !>>540047545Maybe just a role select?Like 3 supports 3 cores or some shit
>>540047779game cancelled for deadlock cart. thank u for participating!
>>540046115Valve is notoriously bad at releasing full animations. They took literally a decade to give every hero in TF2 an animation.
>>540045880inhouse aint starting till 5 EST we probably can't even get a fully lobby till then
so yoshi, how are you suppose to kill this monstrosity of a hero
>>540047831>spelling kart with a C
>>540047047Boundless is an amazing item what the fuck are you talking aboutIt's the fact that it gives you 15% spirit power on top so it massively boosts all spirit gains, any build with several spirit scaling wants the item, Yamato usually always wants it because of cold front and torment pulse
>>540046143this was in SF4 days how the fuck are cammy and akuma still top tier in SF6
>>540048021what a chad
>>540048021still has to run away from Victor
>>540048198capcom is full of retards who refuse to really re-design their games, so akuma is always "the busted shoto" and cammy is the "rushdown with a bit of everything"
>>540048021BUT ANON HE HAS TWO HEADSHOT HITBOXES JUST HIT HIM LMAO THAT'S WHY HES BALANCED
>>540048302bro its almost october. no one runs from victor. hell, no one even plays victor anymore
>>540048419they run away from victor which is why he stopped winning
>>540046172pocket+lash
>>540048302get magic carpet
>>540048021>seven (7) tier fours>60k+ net worthwhat was it an 80 minute game
>>540046172kelvin and viscousdelete supports from the game honestly
I'm done with this matchmaking, it's not fun anymore even with friends
>>540048547
>>540048798oh your team inted him
>>540048750It's worse with friends because I ruin their games just by being in them. For some reason me being a higher rank than them means everyone on our team should be low rank, but everyone on the enemy team is my rank. I don't know how that shakes out but it is unplayable.
>>540046917draft wouldn't solve shit if "people" could still 6/5/4 stack and legally boost + smurf games.
>>540048983just smurf bro everyone else is doing it
Some games. Have no impact. Usually stacks and try hards or just Mo&Nigger. Other games. Carry like mad. Shoutout to all Ivy's out there who go gun. My partner in crime in this game.
>wraith smurf>20k dmg in 42min gamewhat, why even smurf
>>540039582If the enemy leaves, you can still win and it will count. (Only works when its a red sign on the top right, not the green one).Also when its 6v5, the team with the 5 gets way more souls and become tanky/powerful in mid-late game.
>>540046172Pocket (they are untouchable in my rank) and Lash
>>540045880i'm making dinner nibba
>haze>seven>infernus>minaI'm locked in.
>>540048021>9 minutes in some absolute pedo roams to your lane on mo with a 1 min cd ult and over 2k healththank god you lose mmr for playing mo and krill and winning, such a worthless nigger brained character
>Calico goes 10-3-3>she stuck behind the walls and can't get out>proceeds to stay there for the whole gameCalico is so OP even retard can do 10-3-3 in 15 minutes holy shit
>>540050425Whenever I see any of those characters on the enemy team I buy Curse as soon as I complete my basic build just to make their game a bit harder. Specially for Mina.
>>540051360>Calico is so OPlmao
i gotta go to costco man, cant be doing inhouses until after dinna
wheres the inhouse
>>540040143Hmm... I now want to draw this...
>>540051629Here *unzip*
Doorman's door range should scale with spirit.
>>540051629I'll make a lobby now but I just do not think it'll be filled until like 5pm. VCXG4
>>540050775lets not forget that when he has over 2k life most characters have like 1.2k and that his burrow spin does over 300 damage with just mystic burst in laning phase
>>540046172blue niggagoo nigga
INHOUSES ARE: UP0Z6KNYES THATS A ZEROGET ONjudging availability of players if we cant form lets make a fun party stack
>>540052056
>>540052056FUCK ASSIGNORE THISV6VBS
yeah this is definitely a winnable gamegive us a fucking pick phase already holy shit
>>540051874>>540052056>>540052257bravo
>>540051421Good thing basically no one else does.
>>540052257Use >>540052414My internet hiccuped just after I posted the first code and I realized it was gonna be a bad day to me host.
Yes i will pick doorman and do badly.
>me and teammate side laning, get guardian>get jumped by 4 people>he dies but we also kill 1>get down to 150 hp>0/3/0 ivy jump in on them>fuck that shit and just keep running>ivy dies>voice chats "guy, dont expect the lash to help you at all this game"ok
I just realized that lane colors are wrong.
>>540052257I'll afk in lobby in case we fill, but not interested in pubs
>>540052895Both of you are retarded
>>5400522577 people in here.
>>540048061t. pisslow
>>540052980nuh uh
>>540046172Infernus full stopMinaBoth sides
>>540052257so is this a stack or a lobby?I was gonna join if its inhouse
>>540052257>inhouse kinoI'm waiting for a package but i'll hop on after
>>540053194lobby
>>540052908>heading to purple
Also a reminder for the EXTROVERT LOW INHIB CHADSbind a "party voice chat" button so you can shittalk enemy team in real time
>>540053312nice, though I wouldn't call myself an extrovert.
>>540053194Lobby. 10 people in here. First match might be weird, lots of new faces.
>>540052257Cmon, 2 more.
>>540052257First match probably wont be balanced so lets just see this.
>>540052563After a game where a Seven built his ult and no one tried to stun him, I've been going for that almost every game I am against him.
/cl_ogar0Lobby is le fullSaga is a maining faggot!?!
Haven't played in a while, did they nerf dynamo or something? Why has he fallen out of favor?
Can i get one match that a lane on my team isnt instantly lost by someone getting parried before creeps even make it to fucking lane
>>540046917How so? People would still pick their favorite no matter what and then blame the team for not picking around their choice. I sure as hell would not be picking characters I don't like playing and I'm pretty sure neither would you.
>>540053663People got better at staying away from him
>>540053663At pro level, win lane = win game. Dynamo sucks in lane.
>>540052327pretty even imo
When deadlock gameplay leaked and I saw all this zipline action I thought its going to be fucking dogshit
>>540016960The number of players in asia is double digits, if you get a competent 3 stack the matchmaking will shit itself, the estimated ranks kinda speaks for itself
>>540053751Even back then id occasionally pick up shadowweave so the enemies didnt instantly scatter the second I showed
>>540054107>6 heroes who can't carry vs 3 of the strongest heroes of the patch>evenmaybe if we won in 20 minutes lmao
>>540017204Its vit They used to have a mo with 80% wr and he just ran 6-8 greens. Im sure low pop and stacking has a lot to do with it but you dont see glass cannon heros putting up those numbers and im sure they are also abusing the low pop
???are you going to ready oop?
>>540055123game is already underway
>>540055227I thought it might have been, these custom lobbies are confusing
>>540055227match id wanna watch
>>540055385>>540053618
>>540054383>DaddyDavion SpectatingMember when you can see who was watching you? Now I randomly see 1 spectator and assume someone is stalking me.
>>540055536I have been.
>>540055536T'was me sorrey :P bleh
>no blackhole for you professorWhat did Bebop mean by this?
>>540055791It means calico has dumped him and is now romantically involved with the robot
>>540054383The Yamato and GT ''leaks'' were definitely done on purpose to tank the game before it releases, there's no other reasonable explanation.
>>540055791Alternatively, he could be talking about infernus bussy
Victor is soloing the inhouse. He is utterly unstoppable, unkillable, invincible.
>>540055536i watched a ton of matchs during that time and back then you could hear Team Miclots of "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" but a lot of wholesome moments.
>finally get a game with a decent comp>mid lane feeds 7 kills in 5 minutes to warden abramsim so tired
>>540056125This is true. /v/ermin hate video games. There are many such documented cases of Tortanic posting
>play bebop>only do 26k dmg every game>with every build possible
>>540056216>44k 25 minuteswhat the fuck is going on
>>540056402the leaks had nothing to do with /v/
>>540056216letting victor get a lead early is a high skill issue
i saw you typing nigger at first doorman
>9k damage paradoxwhat the fuck lmao
>>540056673This has never happened!
>>540046172Billy (cringe reddit character)Bepop (you knwo why)
>>540056458he's Ritualist, /dlg/ never stood a chance
>>540056734game ended too fast before i could get the bomb build working
>>540056458>>540056216He was laning against room temp niggas, it is genuinely baffling me how a victor gets a lead vs a mcginnis abrams lane, what the fuck
>>540056834statlocker hates me im archon i swear
>>540056504It had everything to do with /v/ thats how I got in the invite only test.
>>540056216Dogshit verminAIDS zero interaction hero
>>540056216And I was the Lash. My only kill coming from a lucky nigger whip.
its shrimple, we kill the victor
Trump and RFK announced the cause to Autism is picking Calico. 1 in 12 boys will pick her, brawl and never push.
>>540056834This was a prime example of how a singular dead weight can single handledly ruin the game, they've really fucked this game up.
>Pick Mirage>I haven't lost onceAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH For the DJINN!!!!!!
>play with my friends>lose every game>solo queue>~60% win rateHmmm
every time i play seven i get these teams
>>540056458what build was he?
>>540057302If you make a stack your enemies are stacks of 2+ in size. There are 6 man try hard stacks out there who all have a line-up of heroes. Most likely they are practicing. They have near perfect plan on what they'll do and every game they will react to everything lightning fast. I win more solo than with a friend, all the time.
>Drifter so retarded he never rebounds despite playing drifter>Meanwhile Lash and Mina spend all game hate-fucking each other over chatMinafags quickly climbing my "most hated players carried by their character" ranks
>>540057028>calico>not mo, ivy, pocket, paradox
how the fuck do you make bebop good&fun?
how do you subtlety tell people in your stack they fucking suck and dont listen to their own advice and will never climb elo because theyre gay niggas
Is Bebop + Calico Avabombing actually good or just a funny meme?
I love how vindicta scope zooms in like 5% more than if you just held down right mouse
>>540056125I don't think so, if anything Valve shouldn't have caved in so easily. They should've kept working on this game until it's ready for full release. Who cares about bad reputation of an alpha game? Especially when Valve is a private company
cure for autism announced. deadlock has been cancelled, thank you for playing!t. yoshi
Just started playing, really enjoying going Ivy but I find myself ignoring the ult which probably isn’t optimal. I guess if I’m not grabbing teammates I should be using it to engage or chase/confirm?
>>540058094sauce
Damn i miss when calico was actually top tier. Far more healthier and funner than s*ven or sh*v and now m*na snoozefest.
>>540058619shut your nigger ass up no it wans't
>>540058527You can use it to engage with a teammate. You can use it to quickly extract a teammate from danger. You can use by yourself for mobility, i.e. push a side line solo and ult to escape from ganks or join in on team fights quickly. its versatile.
How many games do you need to play to get a ranking?>>540058527DON'T FUCKING GRAB ME IF I'M THROWING MY LASSO !!!!
>>540058527you can push an objective while the enemy team is distracted, and if they come to push you off, you just fly away
>>540003415Mina is the most gun a spirit character can be. Any tips? I can seem to be more than just mediocre with her.
i dont miss ivy carrying seven doing full damage. i have ptsd seeing the two in a team.they should add Aghanim's scepter to do full damage
>>540059017They should just silence but allow players to shoot while being carried.
>>540058237No, Valve did the right thing because it means I got to play deadlock
>queue into match>load in>5 carries and me on viscous
>>540059303better than 5 other non-carries and viscous
>>540054383I'm having fun with the game but I do really wish it wasn't another MOBA or another shooter. Valve needs to try different genres.
>540058707Sh*v s*v*n or m*natranny, you call it.
>we have weakened patron>they get greedy and we get a full team clear + midboss>we get greedy trying to take their weakened patron and get wiped >their lanes are all shoved but they have a huge creep wave stacked in every lane>mina is the only one left alive>he backs>GOES FUCKING JUNGLING???>it doesn't matter because instead of ending the enemy team runs urn and jungles tooi love seeker
KILL THIS SHIV
>>540057365>died 6 timesthat's why you can't carry.
>>540054383what about the ziplines makes you think that?
Post yfw the dumbass tranny on your team who typed GLHF at the start of the match goes 1-11-3
>>540060118It just looks weird
>>540060381I hope you had fun anon
>>540060381
>>540060504I'll use my patron wish to get you a better head on your shoulders
ggs inhouse friends, that's all the deadlock I can play today
Good game, everyone. I was Lash for the first match and Mina for the second. It's late, so I'm leaving.
Shitv was a menace
I do not understand teammates that start berrating their own team. You're stuck with them with atleast half an hour, this isn't Overwatch, you need all the help you can get, even if they're a walking bait on a stick for the enemy team.
>>540061005draft when draft when
I say nothing all game except which lane I'm going to sometimes
I'll play more but I need to sit out for like 10
>>540061105all good twin
>>540061105Also if for some reason this unholy shuffler puts me in a slot despite not sitting anywhere and I'm not readying up just kick me.Also rework her 3.
>be bebop>supports outdamage you
>>540061332What's wrong with it?
>>540061357Deserved for veil walker bomb build
What does it mean by experimental heroes? I thought they all got removed in the hero update.
>>540061436it makes me suicidal to lane against (nta)
>>540061332>tactical nuke that activates on headshot>needs rework(You)
Holliday's hat is really cool though
goo goo gaga ready up
>>540061534it means heroes like mcginnis, pocket and holliday who like to experiment with gay sex
>>540061623thank you viscous
>>540059953vampiric burst is so funny
>>540061534it doesn't do anything
can we start or ima leave late game
new meta?
>>540061726Pocket has they sex
JOINWE ARE SHORT ONE PLAYERHURRY UP AND JOIN BEFORE PEOPLE START TO PRETEND THEY HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO (SOLOQUEUE)
gentlemen
>>540062061V6VBS
>>540062061are you guys playing with smurfs?
>>540062193perchance
>>540062193yeah my main is like, way higher xd
>>540062193>Smurfing in a private match with no matchmakingFor what purpose
>>540062061stop that
>>540058021Tell me to my face, Simon >:(
WE SNEED 1 GAMER
WEEELP i'm going to hit the old dusty trail in a couple minutes if nothing happens
just nutted to thigh cam ASMR. what character do i play?
Goo man is extremely fun lane phase punching people into your guardian.But I don't get what I'm supposed to be doing mid late game. very goo'd at pushing lanes but can't attack a tower, can't win 1v1s, and isn't great at farming. I've only played 20 matches as viscous so I'm still very new.
>>540062530Paige
>>540062454I'm suck at work in America
>>540061436>>540061332One of the unfinished heroes has literal ability to bounce bullets of walls for additional damageThat shit would be perfect fit for holliday coupled with lassooBut nooo, lets give her boring ass aimbotter tranny proc
it's over
ded
>>540058618https://youtu.be/dkxraWjn7cg
>>540062540You split push and goo towers with ballYou grab urn and take it in 5 seconds with ball schmovementYou stick with your team and save them from nukes with cubeYou stick with your team and save them from imminent death with cube and rescue beamYou punch enemies out of position
>>540062061try again in an hour or just keep waiting?
>>540062669lobby died, we'll try another one later maybestupid pussy just sitting in the spectator slot too shy to hang out with his /v/ros
We gonna try in an hour with NA bros For now calling it
>>540062813i can play 6s
I exclusively play african-american characters and refuse to play lane without craKKKers to kill
>>540042702>>540042982>>540043381>>540043451I just know these niggas play characters like Lash and Doorman and think they're hot shit for hitting their abilities.You niggers literally have multiple items to counter gun damage, disarm and/or CC these characters yet you just want them to be sitting ducks doing 0 damage to you while you combo them to death.
The problem with these inhouses isn't that there is an obvious skill gap in players but the fact that no one is asking nor giving advice on how to get better. When someone is obviously lower skill and doing poorly, no one on their team helps them and that person likely doesn't ask for help either. Just mindlessly playing and doing poorly, no communication, no improvement.
Active item that reduces enemy bullet velocity Alternatively, chronosphere but slow motion
>>540062984>inhouses are shitshowswoah
>>540062984because you shouldn't take these games seriously and just try and build whatever you want.
>2 matches in a row with an absolute shit team and a no life obese smurf on the opposite teamNo wonder the game is dying
>>540063156Thats every game ever tho
What the FUCK happened to the inhouse>>540061436Shits boring as a skill and makes her a lane terrorist
>>540063097>duhh it doesnt matter if no one improves and just have awful matches where only the people with the most good players shitstomps
>>540063229shiv
>>540063229Can a passive taking up slot that could be an active EVER be interesting?
>>540062984Sometimes i ask and get answers.
>>540062530
>>540062984Giving advice to someone playing like a shitter can easily backfire if they don't know they're a shitter, nor is it enjoyable to go into a game wanting to fuck around and end up having to mentor some retard 20k souls down.
>>540063229>What the FUCK happened to the inhouseWe we're missing 1 player for like 15 minutes and people started to leave. I'll host again in an hour.
>>540062279so 4channers can't see your main
>>540062984they're just casual fun matches man
>>540062984I expected to do a lot worse than I did. The first game my team was talking a fair bit but the second game was dead silent. felt strange.Talking about what happened post-match is also a possibility.I am not good at this game and don't want to give bad advice since I know this kind of game can easily develop bad habits.
>>540062984This might be a shock to you anon but as a SEASONED DOTA 2 INHOUSE VETERAN (autist overlord) these are meant to shoot the shit and fuck around, try new builds, heroes and sometimes, only sometimes tryhard a bit if things get steamy.Playing with better players will always make you improve, and there's a lot of things that are pretty much impossible to explain on such short notice on a game with so much shit happening at all times.Also they're not your fucking baby sitters, you can learn a shitton just by observing.
These """people""" are not realI refuse
>>540064047I'm just testing out the character bro why are you so mad? :)
>>540063924you don't magically improve by just getting shit on while nobody says a word
>>540064518you improve by observing what is happening around you. Having people say things can speed up the process, that is true, but to pretend you learn nothing is disingenuous.
>>540064518nobody has ever asked about coaching nor do I want to tell or be told how to play the game by another retard
>>540062984looks like you got PEEPED
>>540064325I think my entire team was just "testing" their character
>>540064518How the fuck do you think the first people playing the game got good? You observe and understand what worked, what didn't, and most importantly, "why?"
I'm shit at the game and don't know my build priorities I'm scared to leave bot matches
>>540065339playing 12h a day and sitting on discord talking about it the other 12
>>540065732You won't get better if you play against botsJust buy left to right
>>540065732Follow a high rated public build and try to understand why certain things work so you can start to tune the build to your playstyle.There's nothing wrong with using pre-made builds as long as you attempt to understand why the character wants certain items. The secret to learning any game is to constantly ask "why?"
>>540066363>why did he go in>why is this happening again>why did this retard build fortitude
How do you deal with enemies that are aggressively trying to win lane but your laner wants to stay under tower?
>>540065732Go view some ongoing games and look what people are building on characters you like to play, see if things they build work or not. Might also learn some movement tech and game sense too. Though there is always possibility they suck but then you learn what not to do. Also just use some community build as a base and modify it to your tastes.
Why did they nerf toxic bullets so damn much. it should've stayed the 50% heal reduction instead of being a 3200 item that does less than healbane. Absolutely worthless.
How do you win lane? It seems everygame I get shoved under tower even if I try to counter push them.
some cunt rushed veil walker in lane and healed for like 160 every 10 seconds
>>540065732just queue a real game and do poorly a few games, until you don't do poorly anymore. it's just a game. try a build that looks usable for you, you might want to avoid too many active/usable items if you are really new.
>>540066617lose lane and try to recover in the midgame, getting sandbagged by your lane partner is an auto loss if the opposing laners are coordinated, buy some monster rounds and focus on clearing the waves and securing last hits as long as possible
Items that when you see them on your teammates, you know its over
>>540066742only green is allowed to be good.
uninstalling until mina gets nerfed into the groundboring fucking game
>>540063398Unf
>>540062724I normally build towards splat, is that generally okay? I tried the ball thing and can't get the timing down for moving urn
>>540066617>>540066892I also forgot to mention that depending on the lane matchups this is the correct approach to the laning phase, you accept yoshi has decided your loss and try to stabilize
>>540066617As far as I understand the game, if you sit under tower and farm, you don't even really defend the tower, and you concede the lane. I would think of this question the same as "what should I do if my teammate disconnects." There's nothing you can do.
>HAZE>11k from 3rdIs this legit?
>>540066915Whats wrong with fortitude? It gives you some bulk, regen and extra move speed? Would it be better to buy spirit res or bullet res instead to amp survivability depending on enemy team comp?
>>540067079>you concede the lanegoing in and fighting a losing matchup will not only put you under, but can give them the boost to take walker under 5 min. stalling at tower and even walker is the better play.
>>540066915Is this shit really that bad?
>>540066617Sometimes giving up the guardian is the correct play. There are certain lane matchups you just cannot win unless the opponent has actual brain damage.Losing the guardian isn't the end, you farm back up due to the lane now innately pushing to you and hope the team can deal with the roams.
>>540067272really good item
>>540067221basically your generic green 3200 options at any point are veil walker or fortitude, right now veil walker is the more broken option so fortitude should be ignored for veil walker
Bake new bread and lets play some INHOUSE
>>540066959same but when bebop makes damage
>no, i don't think i will abandon the match, thanks thoughfelt awful about the paige, i ran circles around her and she played like she was new. plus she was a good sport about it
>>540067126well yeah? you cant fucking cheat ability damage
>>540067126It can be, headshots are double damage so that's roughly a 30% headshot rate, full blown aimbotters go up to 60-70%Thing with Haze though is that with the high rate of fire you'd rather just stack fixations by ensuring you hit, so even the best Hazes usually end up with a sub 20% HS rateBut some games make headshots easy to hit (like lots of CC in team), and lower MMR players with poor movement are also a lot easier to headshot than the top players
>>540067126Yes, Haze pretty much has the worst gun if you ignore the passive. It's why you completely ignore gun damage and go for firerate only.
>>540044737Bait used to be believable
>>540059432like whatmario party clone?
>McGinnis goes midlane all game 1/12/2I just wanted to win second game before bed
https://streamable.com/8kfr78I played this game horribly but holy shit that was funny
>>540067976How do you fuck up mcginnis
>>540067221It got nerfed too hard. Veil Walker is now superior due to all the buffs it got
>>540067839If it were 6-7 years ago I'd have said MMO. Now I think co-op dungeon crawler or whatever Phantasy star online 1 is
>>540066596Fortitude belongs in every build
>>540068050according to statlocker, ginnis has the lowest lane winrate in the game despite being the best laner. she filters most of the playerbase except for the trannies that can abuse her.
Inhouse again in 20 minutes sound good?
>>540068407do it NOW
>>540068068>less than half the HP bonusveilwalker is better if you're someone who can take advantage of the invisibility, but they're both viable
stop inhousing and bake some bread.
>>540068407no I'm going to sleep goodnight
>>540068112ngl this game would have hit so much harder if it was a PvE dungeon crawler or horde shooter. Built on OW2 dropping PvE, Deeprock falling off, etc
Im having fun in houses
>>540068316The "McGinnis is the best laner" thing has not been true for a while. Her gun is still great, but nowadays you'd want some mobility on top which she just severely lacks.
>>540068448im making still so 20 minutes
>>540067221this is the thought process of the average retard buying fortitude>"wow I died, they did so much damage to me! I need more health so I can kill them before they kill me!"they immediately are stating by this that >they lack the confidence that they will land their shots and abilities>they lack the awareness of how and when to engage the enemy>the movement bonus DISAPPEARS the moment they engage in combat because they get DOME'D straight away knocking them out of the threshold to benefit from itoh boy you soaked up ONE ABILITY with your bonus health from the enemy which you probably ate being a fucking retard you also wait FOURTEEN YEARS just for the slowest healing on planet earth to take root, this is the worst iteration of heart of tarrasque to ever exist, buy ANY OTHER T3 green item or just save for fucking colossus if you are derangedly obsessed with the +health it gives WAY more
>>540068638making dinner*
>>540064047AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEELOOK AT THEIR SOULS WHAT ARE THEY DOING
>steam invite>think it's someone from inhouses>just another russian scammer profilebuh...
I still don’t know what I’m doing but I really like ivy S1 :)Gonna try viscous tomorrow.
>>5400687842bh I didnt know it was nerfed and thought it was still best for healing up while roaming
>>540068942this must be really low rank to have matches that long with that large of disparity.
>Vindicta on zipline>someone shot her>she fell down>she's laying on the ground like a drunk bitch>doesn't move>enemies are getting closer>I pick her from the ground as Bebop and save that blue little pussy lmao that was funny becaue I've picked her from the ground like if she were a thing
>>540068784it's more about the fact that you don't have to go back to baseroaming, jungling, taking minor fights/ganks becomes a lot more appealing when that's the case
>>540068942holy shit what rank is this lmaoand why the fuck are you playing an utility character here pick a fucking carry
>>540068784The stats say fortitude buyers win 52% of the time thoughbeit so that makes me think your analysis is flawed.
>>540069134its my 5th ever game so yeah, definitely acne low>>540069246See aboveAlso I like this character
>>540068407I'm gonna play pub matches for practice, I can't inhouse every night
>>540069358that's fine I checked the numbers and the small receipt paper printed out by my machine says you're 102% homosexual with a 2% margin of error
Ngl it does kinda suck when you win a team fight, and enemy team is almost all dead but your team almost isTheres barely any items that help with recovery like that
This is the last deadlock thread
We need Valve to start mailing pipe bombs to anyone who opens stat tracking sites during or after the match to justify their selfish play style. If they shitpost in the Discord screenshotting it, Valve should just end their family lineage with a precision orbital strike.
>>540069627>Possibly 104% homosexual...how>>540069737AgreedJust fucking kill them with a pipebomb
>>540069663/thread
>>540069358heroes that buy fortitude have higher winrates, it's not because fortitude is a good item
>>540067982The shift enter question mark was pure instinct
>>540069220It's faster to just zip back to base and heal, denizens also cancel the healing
>>540069785machines dont make mistakes Dexter
>>540069915but it's time wasted, could be doing boxes instead or just repositioning
>>540070085>>540070085>>540070085>>540070085>>540070085
>>540062984im arcanist and 3W 0L rn in the inhouseI do fuck ass builds but make sure not to feed/run it downIt’s not that hard