Combat Girls EditionStore links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomPrevious Thread>>539890976
There's a limit to how much bullshit I can tolerate and I feel I'm getting closeThis is just fucking sadisticGuess I'll go do other shit and come back with an extra needle level and some new tools and whatever
How does Snare Setter work? I placed it, and enemies walk over it, but nothing seems to happen.
>>540032841You have to charge it like the vial.
>blue mushrooms with yellow dots everywheredid mr.shroom jerk off on here or something?>>540032551you can get one of two possible npc supports for that fight if you want. it trivializes it
>>540032082I need more art of Hornet looking like a humanoid bug rather than just a human woman with black skin.
>>540033059Thanks.
>>540032551The two places where I had to take a break were this room and the Act 3 final boss.
>>540033126>humanoid bugyou want slant-eye'd hornets?
what areas are exclusive to act 3?
>>540033920small parts of some zones like coral tower gauntlet, the void and gay mantist soulincest bumfuckville
I wish Mount Fay was 10x harder but double jump was just an optional QoL upgrade
>>540032551Lmao, I was waiting for this moment.
>>540034848what a horrifying thoughtat least make it so that the climb to the surface was 10x longer and harder and leave mount fay alone
>>540032551Bro your Shakra?
>>540033331I don't think there's a problem with difficult games. Difficult games can be a lot of fun if you're looking for a tough challenge.The problem with Silksong's difficulty is that it's designed in an asshole kind of way. Bosses with moves designed to make you run into them, contact damage for bosses that are stunned, a plethora of boring gauntlets of regular type enemies that offer zero reward for beating them, platforming that are just wide enough to make sprint momentum screw you over, enemy placement on runback routes that take all the tempo out of your game. Flying enemies that deliberately hover just out of range of your attacks so you have to sit there and wait until they come into range, only to psych you out and zoop out of range again the moment you move.Things like that don't make the game hard. They make the game annoying.
I just freed the locked up bug in Sinner's Road. Does he come up again later?
>>540035954No, he vanishes into the ether. Of course he comes back, idiot.
>>540036021I'm asking WHEN he comes again later, jackass. I don't want to miss shit.
>>540036132He comes back when your dad returns with the milk.
woe, baby pile be upon ye....Do you think the Weaverlings are nearly purely Silk automatons starting down the path that made Phantom and Lace? The idea of Hornet getting it and keeping it after the kidnapping to Pharloom causing a bunch of those "in the know" to freak out at Actual Baby Dolls sounds funny. As does stuffing Phantom or Eva in one as a soft-reset letting them interact with other people.
>>540035718ThisThey fully bought into the HOLLOY KNIGHT SO HARD DUDE memes and thought the appropriate response was to make it harder in all the wrong ways
>>540036209Imagine being so utterly sexless and bitter that you act like a pissy little faggot in a Hollow Knight general.
>>540036279Doesn't seem like you'd have a hard time imagining that.
the difficulty is exactly what i hoped for though i didn't even play the hollow knight pantheon stuff
>>540036340I imagine your mother's fat ass bouncing on my dick, farting with each thrust.
Wait, do I need the silk soar to climb the coral tower?
>>540036852You can’t even get the quest that allows you to do that boss fight if you don’t have silk soar.
>>540037043So I did that shitty parkout for nothing? great.
>>540035718>offer zero reward for beating themThis is the most valid point. The number of times I beat one of these minibosses and just get fucking shards out makes me want to KMS. GIVE ME ROSARIES YOU BASTARDS!!!!>Bosses with moves designed to make you run into themThey're not going to design the moves to miss.>contact damage for bosses that are stunnedI guess this is annoying but I have no issue with it. Just learn not to run into them. And you couldn't even stand inside of a stunned enemy anyhow because it would damage you once it wakes up.>enemy placement on runback routes that take all the tempo out of your gameFair there are some that you have to beat and it gets a little annoying.>Flying enemies that deliberately hover just out of range of your attacks so you have to sit there and wait until they come into range, only to psych you out and zoop out of range again the moment you move.There's a tool in the game that has the description “good for dealing with flying enemies”.
my fucking boy
So I already explored the whole map, did the full shakra questline, did the witch crest questline, I'm only missing are the songs to unlock act 3, anything else I must do before I go into act 3? anything I won't be able to do or get due to it?
>>540037505Supposed to be female, but oh well.
>>540037753>locked himself out of the curse endinglol lmao
>>540037959I will do cursed ending in my next run, this one will most likely end in a normal ending, next one should be the true ending and I will do a third run for the cursed ending, don't know how to trigger the fourth ending.
Where do I find those niggas in act 3? All of wormways are plasmified.
>>540037909yes i discovered seconds later when the kids came
>>540038137there's a whole section untouched, and the weavernest has 2 or 3 spawns
>>540038137Up here
>>540032551>Empty toolsNigga, those waves weren't that hard
The lost lace fight shouldn't have had the shard loss with tools. It is literally such a pain in the ass to grind bundles and rosaries going back and forth to the surface from abyssand quitting the flow of your boss fight. I am losing like 100 shards per attempt on average.I got to phase 3 without using tools though. I used longclaw. Pollip or Longclaw is the problem. Any advice on Lost Lace.
>>540039078just use the fucking nail, you don't need tools
>>540035954>Does he come up again later?>>540036132>I'm asking WHEN he comes again later, jackass.You're the one who says one thing and expects others to interpret it as something else.
>>540032551I don't see enough people recommending rune rage for this. It can clear whole waves in a single cast and the big guys easily eat multiple rings.
How TF are people using tools in this game? Is there something later on that makes them better (I'm just past the start of act 2)? I haven't been using them because they seemed to do shit all damage whenever I've tried them.Same goes for the crests. They all seem kinda shit and annoying or cheesy compared to the default one.
>>540033331Thankfully kids and having a full time job means I am always taking breaks
Just defeated Lost Garmond, now I kinda lost motivation to continue. I'm starting to think dying to Moss Mother is the best ending the game have.
Can you parry these guys unraveled tosses at you? I only tried once and it just tanked the hit, wondering if I messed up or if there's a trick or something.I've already beaten him, just wondering about this aspect specifically.
>>540039975Anon, there are augments to increase your tools damage, as well as the poison blue tool.Next you're gonna tell me reaper crest is the best crest in the game aren't you?
>>540039375>Is the bus going to come later?>Yes...>...Do you know WHEN?>OH MY FUCKING GOD WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT SOONER!?!?I genuinely do think there needs to be a study about video games and their relation to autism.
>>540040162I think you can
>>540040262Do one about being a shitposting faggot after. You can use yourself as a case study.
>>540040226Not that guy but I just bought a tool upgrade from the forge daughter, but nothing happened. I'm guessing the damage is still higher now, but there's no visual flair which I've come to expect from upgrades
>>540040376Nice one.
>>540040262Telling someone when a bus arrives is not a spoiler. Do you want people to reply to every question like this>does Lace come up again after you meet her in Deep Docks?>oh, yeah, in the Abyss, she is the Act 3 final boss
>>540040226Reaper is the cheesy one. I got like two of those upgrades but IDK if tools do any good damage. Doesn't really seem like it but it's hard to tell. It seems like you're meant to play the game just hitting things so I don't really get the point of tools. If the needle upgrades are anything like the nail ones in HN then it seems like it's going to way outstrip the tools in terms of damage no matter what, given they have four upgrade slots. I know about the poison charm and I always have it equipped just because I figure I might as well but it seems to not do much of anything.Do you know if the actual numbers on tool damage are available anywhere?
>>540040262>Doesn't communicate clearly>Accuses others of autism when they don't understand the poorly communicated question Many such cases. Perhaps you can try looking in a mirror.
>>540040162yes. my strategy for him was slapping wanderer and going all in slashing forward when he did this to get damage
>>540035954He comes in the Clockwork Core after you defeat the first Main Quest Marker boss of Citadel. You must also randomly wander around Citadel to meet him again a couple of times. Then in Act 3, you go to the east of the crow place, a new path would be opened there. If you don't hear heartbeat when you meet him there, you're too soon, come back later. If you do, use your new ability.
>Fixed Liquid Lacquer courier delivery not being accessible in Steel Soul mode.but is it really a fix?
>>540032082Yuri gameYuri generalLesbian communityFeminist devs
Ranking all boss fights (Top 10)1) Skarrsinger Karmelita2) First Sinner3) Lost Lace4) Phantom5) Trobbio (The Original)6) Cogwork Dancers7) Grandmother Silk8) Shrine Guardian Seth9) Sister Splinter10) Nyleth
>>540038080I think you can do all three in the same run. I've heard people say just reload your save after the Act 2 endings. Can't do the Act 2 endings it if you do the Act 3 ending though.
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>>540041097Why is purple trobbio not there?
The amount of Lace x Hornet art keeps multiplying each day bwos...
>>540040162I parried it, but still took damage too. Was using Wanderer. Heard the parry sound, but the body keeps flying and hit me.
There is no way this shit is beating E33 in the game awards
>>540041097Gonna have to disagree with Sister Splinter, any boss with adds is not deserving of top 10.
>>540041263Because it shouldn't have been a thing in the first place.
>>540041396Maybe you need to do continuous parry, like when enemies do frenzy attack?
sorry not sorry, Seth was an annoying ass fightit had some fun moves, but a teleports behind you shield user is as painful as it sounds to fight
>>540041542Maybe? I think that's a bit weird, but I could maybe try that next time. I've still yet to beat him.
>>540041417E33 will get all awards because apparently you can simply do an rpg with a bit of SMT, a bit of Legend of Dragoon, an ost directly copy pasted from Nier Automata and now you have all normies believing E33 "re-invented" rpg lmao.E33 is great though
>>540041417No shit
>>540041651That's still miles better than anything Silksong has done.
>>540041470You can just get rid of them using one silken ability.
>>540041894Don't care, adds are cancer no matter what. She can be number 11 at best.
>>540041775It's ok anon I know you are currently getting filtered by the choral arena but it's not the game's fault.
>>540042047Bilewater, actually. And yes, the game is factually bad.
>>540041676LMAO why do they even have a fan vote at that point? It surely couldn't even influence the outcome.
>>540042047Imagine getting filtered by the conductor arena though, literally finished it on my first attempt. Had like 7 hearts and some extra spool. Just save tools for the new enemy wave.
>>540042283Because it would make it way too obvious that "game award" are just "friend awards" if they removed the fan voting part. It's all about smoke and mirrors anon.
>>540042283To give the illusion that fans have a choice.
>Rembered the taunt button exists>go "POSHANKA" at lost laceit's kino
>>540042156lol
>>540041097for me it'sskarrsinger karmelita > cogwork dancer > trobbio (either form, i love the guy) > first sinner > 2nd lace > shrine guardian seth > second sentinel > phantom > widow > last judge
i think shaman crest should let you bind mid-air.it's already the slowest crest when it comes to bind, but TC had to make it grounded.
>>540041417I agree but only because of the dozens of "it's too hard" articles
So I just unlocked the lift to bother lace in her sleep, once I defeat her will act 3 trigger?
>>540044130One more fight after that
>>540044130You need a quest to trigger act 3 too btw
>>540043693Based list. First Sinner is such a beautiful fight. I love fights that you can enter without running a distance.
>>540044130Let her snooze… what did she ever do to you?
>>540044591She's too smug and needs correction.
I remember Hollow Knight kicked my ass when I played it years ago. But since I just beat Silksong I decided to go back and replay it.I'm baffled at how easy it is for me now.Hornet in Greenpath? Beat her first try.Soul Master? Beat him first try.Dung Defender? Beat him first try.Broken Vessel? Beat him first try.Mantis Lords? Beat them first try.Nosk and Crystal Guardian did kill me though.>>540042156Bilewater is fun.
>>540043586You can't defend Groal. It is one of those things where there is no subjectivity.
>>540044130It's almost impossible to activate Act 3 on accidentTrust me>>540044738I'll concede that he's annoying, but it's not as hard of a fight as a lot of people are making it out to be
>Coral Tower>Just kept pogoing with Reaper >Reached the final boss first try>Died to bossAw, I was hoping for doing the whole thing first try.
>>540044683>Bilewater is fun.i actually kinda agree. the platforming is actually the right amount of challenging, groal is kinda shit but it might just be me being a shitter.putrified ducts on the other hand... has no redeeming quality other than the flea caravan.
>>540045102Putrified ducts' redeeming quality is that it's short
>>540044938>I'll concede that he's annoying, but it's not as hard of a fight as a lot of people are making it out to beThe dive attack plus the nature of Silksong's flying enemies having input reading genuinely adds an RNG factor to this boss, making it inconsistent. That's the best way to describe Silksong. It's inconsistent.
I accidentally turned off hero voice ages ago and played half the game without realizing it
>>540044738Groal sucks because he is too easy compared to the waves of enemies beforehand. You can avoid most of his moves by just moving away and one of his moves gives you a positive trade if you just eat it pun intended.Unless you meant he sucks because he's too hard, then lol no
>>540045369Groal imo isn't THAT hard of a boss. The issue is that he's preceded by an enemy gauntlet and a long runback so your mind tricks you into being on edge when fighting him.>That's the best way to describe Silksong. It's inconsistent.I'll give you this for Savage Beast Fly and Groal, but overall I don't think RNG plays a big role in fights from my experience.
>>540045593Its not Groal. Its just Bilewater. The runback and the damn muckmaggots. If there was a godmode DLC, Groal fight would be a cakewalk even if the waves of enemies doubled.
>>540045369>Use the cogfly to attack the enemies before the boss, all while staying in the cuck corner>attack the boss with the boomerang for extra damage, and stay hidden in the corner attacking from time to timeThe fight has so much bullshit if you fight him legally that it's better to cheese his ass.
>>540045778The muckmaggots were annoying until I realized you can get rid of them by binding onceAt that point it became kinda fun because you need to be strategic with how you use your silk
>>540045369>enemy responds to your actions>OMFGBBQ!!! ARE MY INPUTS BEING READ?????what are they supposed to do? take a million years to respond to your actions? not do anything at all aside from hard coded moves?
>>540045696Any enemy that is capable of flying in this game has this input reading factor. This is absolutely an RNG game. The entire fucking game is like this.
>>540045954>he did not go through putrefied ducts to get the wreathe of purityImagine touching Bilewater at all before finishing everything else. Damn.
I beat the game and it was great, but I still don't know why Hornet was captured at the start of the game.Did Grand Mother Silk need the Weavers' powers somehow? Or was she just really possessive of her "children" and wanted to take them back?
...wait, do I REALLY need silk soar to get all the fleas?
>>540046201...not to be rude, but this sounds like you're just shit at platformers.Airborne enemies weren't bullshit for me.
>>540046647>Declare an objective statement about a game's lack of quality>"...well I liked it"Why do people do this every time?
>>540045954There are parts of the map where enemies respawn so you can charge silk to get rid of the maggots, the 1hp blanker ones exists for that exact reason.
>>540046732>Enemies have input readingThis is objective>This means the game is RNG and is therefore badIf the game reacts to your inputs, it's the opposite of RNG
>>540046590No, I can't think of a single one that needed it.
>>540046760>dude just go to go back and forth screens and farm silk on the easiest enemies>dude just quit the game and respawn at the last bench>dude just use cheats lmao>dude just watch others beat it You do realize how ridiculous you sound? These games shine in exploration and sound, I don't have time to be stuck in a specific area trying to stay alive.
>>540046590No. I got all fleas and all Eva upgrades before Act 3.
>>540046201there is no input reading, they just backstep at a certain distancewhat shouldn't exist is a backstep, specially not immediately after an attack
>>540046859>>Enemies have input reading>This is objectivewait really?
>>540047193>These games shine in explorationYou clearly haven't explored.
>>540047342I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt that his premise (the game has input reading) is a thingI still don't see why this is an issue with the game though. If the game is reacting to your inputs just change your tactics. The game gives you a lot of options on how to tackle enemies.
>>540047372Muckmaggots could have been less punishing if these fuckers didn't just random spawn outta nowhere and put pressure on you. Not to mention they spawn like rats.
>>540047342no, the enemies simply dodge as you get closebut since the dodge is so fast and the distance is a bit wide, very often they dodge as soon as you attack making it seem like input readingyou can just jump without attacking and you'll see they dodge no matter if you attack or not, if they were input reading they wouldn't dodge just because you got closer
>>540047193NTA the big fat flies can be farmed for a whole bind's worth of silk (or some similar amount) just by pogoing on them
>>540047342Enemies can calculate where you will be based on your momentum. Enemies can also detect if you jump, and jump in response a few millisecond later. They look pretty foolish if you stop mid air, they just jump for nothing. It's like they're aware that their bodies do contact damage, and act accordingly.I wouldn't call it "input reading", just enemies having eyes and perfect ideal robot-level reflexes.
What was the twisted child thing all about. Baby attaches to Hornet, then beating GMS with it causes them to die and then something new is born from the solidified corpses? What's going on here? Hornet also said it's like the baby was waiting for her to find it when she told the Bellhart guy about it..
>>540047763Greyroot infects Hornet as a parasite and tries to take over her body, but she resists because of her unique anatomy. If she beats GMS, Greyroot takes control of her threads and becomes a god.
>>540045097Beat him third try.
>>540041651I don't know what it is about E33 but every time I watch footage of its combat it makes me not want to bother playing the game>>540042156If you think the game is bad why do you keep playing it for dozens of hoursI don't understand retards who do this
>>540047978That was Greyroot? Was it not the baby? Didn't Greyroot die using some next-sh*t to force the baby into Hornet's shell?
>>540047763Basically the same as void ending, only both Hornet and GMS are permanently dead, and void is replaced by roots.
>>540047537There are definitely some bosses that have input reading. I think the Last Judge specifically would some times seem to move at exactly the same time I pressed a key, and if I walks backwards and forwards it would do the same thing. I don't think regular enemies do it as much though. They seem to just target a specific location on the screen or distance from the player. I think anon is just confused because this means you'll jump at an enemy and they'll seem to dodge your attack when the camera moves. I didn't mind it most of the time but those red drill fuckers in blasted steps can fuck off because they're impossible to hit.
>>540048205Spoilers, man. I'm still Act 2 t-t
>>540048289That's just a theory, dude. The ending is pretty vague
>>540048186In the "extras" section where you pick the menu style, the background you unlock for the Cursed Child ending where everything is covered by the vines is called "Greyroot." So the implication is that the giant vines sprouting all over Pharloom is just Greyroot's new body.
>>540048186>>540048747Also Greyroot describes the ritual he's tricking Hornet into as "rebirth" which is pretty telling
>>540048747>>540049001I see...Just feels a bit odd to me that it's him. Going by the dialog and events I figure the Twisted Bud was placed or grown by someone in Bilewater. Hornets says it's like it was waiting for her. I think Greyroot speaks like a fanatic. I figure she was part of some cult or something that birthed the Twisted Bud, and that this bud was originally a great evil that they worshiped. The Bud needed to grow, so she placed it into Hornet, assuming that it would feed off of her. The "rebirth" I figure is the great evil coming back once the bud grows. Once in the presence of a weaked GMS, the Bud parasites her before Hornet can do anything, grows rapidly to where Hornet no longer has control, and then cocoons now that it has all the energy it needs. In the end, the GMS-Hornet roots crack and you can her something being born.Like, doesn't it seem weird that the devs would make this ending just for some random Greyroot witch? Wouldn't this be part of something bigger?
Serious question, does this game ever get fun? Every single enemy so far has been an absolute chore to fight. Everything has way too much HP. I'm trying to do the gauntlet for the Reaper and it is some of the most boring repetitive monitonous nonsense I've ever experienced.
How do I open
>>540050504Collect heart
>>540050380Actually, your theory is really plausible as well.I wouldn't be surprised if a DLC goes more in-depth with this.
>>540050504No point opening that. Its just there for memory sequence. Its basically the stage where you fight her. Since the ants began worshipping GM Silk, she faded to misery and so did her stage Like the upper Verdania part.
are unupgraded nail no spells runs a thing?
>>540050498If it's bad right now for you, then no, it'll probably only get worse. Some bosses can be fun, but I think only a handful of fights are loved like First Sinner's. The bosses will likely get more HP, you'll have some with annoying/tedious runbacks, and some with arenas. If you're bored now from monotony then it may be good to stop here.
>>540050819Shame to waste 20 bucks, but thanks.What a dogshit game.
>>540050807Masochism? Yeah, I think masochism is a thing.Joking aside, I almost never use spells in regular play, but I will, as if by obligation, upgrade my needle.
I was a bit weary about having a non-silent protagonist considering how much the first game emphasized Hallownest's lonely atmosphere, but Hornet is surprisingly great as a MC.Maybe it's because Pharloom isn't as dead as Hallownest (as in it hasn't decayed to the same extent), but Hornet talking doesn't feel out of place. She hits that specific balance between being stoic, compassionate, fierce, and polite. She's a surprisingly kind person, but she also won't hesitate to cut someone down if she thinks it's necessary.
>>540050930imagine calling a game shit cause you are shit at it
>>540051319"Bro what do you mean you can't eat shit? Mad cause bad bro!" Anon said, with shit all over his face.
>>540051297>I was a bit weary about having a non-silent protagonist considering how much the first game emphasized Hallownest's lonely atmosphere, but Hornet is surprisingly great as a MC.I think the problem with her being opinionated, rather than "blank" like the Knight, is that there's probably more people that will dislike her, than that disliked the knight. Personally, I dislike Hornet, though I don't think it weird that there are people that like her.If Knight is vanilla, a safe choice, Hornet is chocolate. Some will really like her, but now there's some others that will really dislike her.Ironically, I also dislike chocolate lol.
>>540051741you literally said you where shit at the game and that you think its shit cause you are bad at it hollow knight and silksong are both PERFECT games and if you odnt like then than fuck off out of this thread NOW
>>540050380>Like, doesn't it seem weird that the devs would make this ending just for some random Greyroot witch?At first I thought it was a Grimm situation but now I just think it's a reward for the challenge bros
>>540051952Never played HM but Silksong is hot garbage, sorry. Probably one of the stalest gameplay loops this decade. Nice BGM though I'll give it that.
>>540052230you clearly got your ass kicked by an early game boss and are fucking seething about it like i said fuck off out of this thread you are only here to stir shit typical /v/ poster
>>540052230Not a fan of metroidvanias?
If Hornet is a Weaver, where is her gigantic ass? Herrah was thick as fuck.
>>540052383The game being unreasonably hard isn't my fault. "Nah bro just basic attack this mob 50 times with your -1 reach weapon and full touch damage and knockback. Game never gets better than tnis but uh... you're bad if you don't like it.">>540052623I liked SotN and Ender Lillies
>>540052230Hanging out in a general for a game you dislike is mental illness
>>540052916She's "Little" Spider.
>>540052979see? right there you admit to being shit at it you are the kind who wants all games to be completely brain dead to play
>>540052979Hard game is like spicy food. Some people like others don't. Real men must eat the spiciest noodle or else your muscles dissolve and you grow a manvagina.
>>540051297I really love reading how she talks about the fleas, she genuinely loves them and it gives off the impression that if something were to happen to them she would go on a murder spree
>>540052979Most of the problem you’re having with these anons is that you are presenting your opinion as a fact. >this game is badinstead of>i don’t like this gameAdditionally, why do you feel the need to let us know this? I can only assume that you enjoy arguing with people. That’s not a healthy way to exist.
>>540053073So's playing this game.
>>540053268>>this game is bad>instead of>>i don’t like this gameHate to philosophise, but those mean the same thing.
>>540053397No, one is a statement, the other is an opinion, there's a clear difference.
>>540053397They don't, and you're genuinely autistic if you can't see that.
>>540053397Nah, no they don't.However, the game is bad and I don't like it therefore.
>>540053274see again you are only here to stir shit if you dont like the game fuck off
>>540053274>its a bad game because I suck at itBye dude
>>540053657Give me $20.
Anon, if you don't like the game, then leave. You paid $20 and some time to learn you don't like it. Fine. Chalk it up as a loss. There's no need for you to be here any more. Go play a game you enjoy instead.
stop replying to them… how obvious does a bad faith actor have to be for you to get the hint? you think these anons are going to be persuaded of anything? delusion
>>540052979Did you get filtered by the big ant or something? It feels like 70% of the people complaining about the game being hard are walled by hunter's march, because that zone teachs you about how to pogo correctly, how to manage your health and how to stay vigilant of small and flying mobs.
>>540053573>>540053575>>540053615An opinion is a statement. There being no objective quality, something being bad can only ever be a person's opinion. Can you explain the practical difference between the first and second statements?
>>540053750fuck off its not anyone's fault you failed to do any research before dropping money on a game
>>540053397Nah I dont like GTA5 but thats because its not my thing, I can understand why the game has appeal. Nerds struggle with this distinction.
>>540053915Or perhaps you simply struggle to see the appeal in many things.
>>540053824What you said: >>540046732>>objective statement about a game's lack of quality
>>540053972They are the reason why I always have 2 cogflies flying.
>>540053972Fuck you fuck you fuck you! Stop flying away from me.
>>540054069The second post you point out is not mine.
>>540054037Thats a retarded assumption since I listed a single game that doesnt appeal to me.
What a great fight. Truly Orgasmic. 10000000 times better than Radiance, fight me. This is the peak. This is what I call a fight. This is that SCORCESE absolute kino.
>>540054210That ass is peak
>>540054295Which one?
>>540040226Reaper is the easiest to use those down airs are like crack, I can't give it up, I won't, I never will. I think I needed to use wanderer for one fight where reaper seemed to be countered before figuring out how to upgrade stuff. I've seen people do way crazier stuff with witch but I don't have the desire nor the time to play like that.
>>540054353Yes
>>540053824This comes down to a disagreement about the nature of reality. Can things be objectively good or bad? You seem to think not. For practical purposes, however, I would argue yes. If all humans cannot come together and agree that something like murder is “objectively” bad then you leave the door open for modes of thought that justify mass death, which can already be created by working around the current system. In short, saying that something “is bad” can ultimately be understood to be an opinion based on context, but the framing of the statement dresses it as a fact, ie. “The sky is blue,” or “This dog is short.” Good and bad must be treated as concepts which can be both objective and subjective because the alternative is a rational world of psychotic murderers.
I finished the game. There is only one thing to say. That's it. Never posting, typing or coming to this general again.
>>540054641See you in the DLC
>>540053818>big antNah. I kinda had a bad feeling that I wasn't going to enjoy the game from near the beginning, sing the disparity in power between Hornet and even basic bitch enemies.It kinda grew from there seeingbthe preponderance of heat-seekibg flyers who all just attack by hyperarmor and collision, with Hornet's godawful attack range. And bosses just took too goddman long to kill. Like wvery one could have 75% of their current HP and they"d all be just as much of a learning curve without also getting boring as fuck.Then I got to Greymoor and didn't have any shells left over from Fourth Column or Chorus or whatever it's name was, and got filtered by the craw boss that throws daggers.Then I went left and got filtered by the Reaper runvback/gauntlet.Eventually got it but I just realized that I probably haven't had any fun since realizing you could pogo cheese the miniboss guarding the entrace to Hunter's March 5 hours ago. It's just basic attack, pogo, runback. It's fucking boring, and way too difficult to be worth the monotony.
>>540054569Aha, yes. I must admit I was engaging in sophistry to provoke arguments online. Though in my opinion, the distinction between the two statements can be more specific than with reference to the whole of humanity. “I dislike this” is a statement of subjective personal opinion, whereas “this is bad” additionally confers a belief that the listener should agree with you. A consensus therefore need only be formed between two people rather than humanity as a whole.
>>540054941>dying to fourth chorusLMAOOOOOOO
>>540050498All gauntlets are garbage, all of them. Most bosses I've seen so far were eh, only Widow and Last Judge hit the right balance of hard and fun
>>540054210Kinda agreeIt's actually such a satisfying fight once you realize that she always teleports into one of the void spikes adjacent to you
>>540054941>realizing you could pogo cheese the miniboss guarding the entrace to Hunter's March 5 hours agoHe does an overhead slash if you try to spam pogo
>>540053818I beat that ant meanie without dash it took me maybe 10 triesIdk why I'm searching reddit for salty players that are bad at the game they're all here lolChoral arena taught me how to "pogo" and use clawline, bilewater runback polished it
Is the Savage Beast Fly request bugged? I completed it at the board earlier and said I was rewarded a mask shard. It didn't register the shard and the wish is back in my task list.
>>540054641>Going into the threads before you finish the game
>>540055854tiom macdonaold fucking sucks stop listening to that fucking shit rapper
i think bosses shouldn't summon adds unless they are bosses like brood mother. savage beastfly, particularly the second encounter has no business summoning adds mid fight.
>>540050498If you're not liking it so far, no. Eventually you get more abilities and tools which improve combat and allow cheesing a bit but I'd say that's less fun than when you were limited at the start. The game just constantly takes cheap shots and kicks you in the balls and laughs.
>>540023541>random ground pyrop sure it never appeared in the same spot twice in a row
The skull tyrant that destroys the Bone Bottom bench. How do I get it to show up again? It's bashing at the outside of the bellway, but there's nothing when I come out.
Is Plasmium supposed to have negative effects? The Knight used it in the first game right? Wasn't he just fine? Why did the alchemist dude go crazy?
>>540057381It gets repaired after you talk to the town NPC
>>540057969The knight is a void abomination.
>>540057969a little plasmium never hurt anything. go on... have a bit, as a treat
>>540057969The Knight is part void, so he's seemingly immune to the negative effectsHornet says in the journal entries that it's helpful in small doses, but too much of it (such spreading it all over an ecosystem like dumbass 1 and dumbass 2 did) will absolutely fuck up everythingThe first game also suggests the Pale King banned it in Hallownest (Lifeblood is described as a taboo), so now we know why lol
>>540053972Primal Aspid-sama, I am sorry for not appreciating you.
What am I missing here? I assume it's something Voltnest related, but there is nothing there.
>>540058648Its Watcher on the Edge, he's hidden in a spot to the lower right of Sands of Karak.
>>540058772Lower LEFT, my bad.
>tfw I can't complete the Hunter's Journal because I didn't know I could fight Shakra before starting Act 3
>>540058772Oh fuck that asshole. Any tips? I can't deal with his "here is your 2 damage from outside of the screen" attacks
>>540058991Its an optional entry
>>540059013I just used shaman range attacks with volt filament and focused on dodging. Ii imagine cogflies and tacks work too.
And what are these 2? I know one is a flier from the surface path. Another is Garmond?
>>540059013I cheesed him with poison cogflies, tacks and sting shards.
>>540059367The other are the little scuttling bugs on the surface.
>>540059370If you used cogflies you did not beat the boss.
i got fucked by the coral tower. managed to reach the third fight but pretty much stuck there for now.i feel like i'm a bit too sleep deprived to perform right nowit seems easy but i still fuck it up somehow
>>540059503those cute flat things?you wouldn't hurt those, right?
>>540059832i know that feel anon. i was doing the high halls gauntlet for 3 hours then i decided to stop for the day. next day i beat it 2nd try.
>>540059367>>540060037ok, yes. that's one of those>>540059503
>>540060037It was for the journal, so yes.
>>540057974No, the skull tyrant.
was doing a delivery for fleabumfuckville but got shat on by the damn bugs in the first room of putrefied ducts. no way am i taking a shortcut through bile water
people were beating this the second day but i'm still wasting my time in act 3 2½ weeks ini need to either get a life or get rid of it to compete
>>540061314>wait for 7 years>beat the game in 2 daysFuck that, savor it.
>>540060516The town NPC (the guy who built the task board) repaired it in my playthroughDon't know the exact conditions of it happening
>>540057381are you still in act 2?
>>540061662>stillI just made it.
>>540051297I like how hopeful/heroic(?) she is in Act 3
>>540053972It's funny to trick then into getting eaten by the ceiling dudes
>>540062675>stilldidn't mean it like thatwas thinking about the state of bone bottom bench since it changes at a few events
>>540054210It's alrightGMS helping Hornet and Ghost showing up were pretty cool moments, but otherwise I find it somewhat underwhelming compared to say, Dream No More
Wow sands of karak is fucking cancerI guess at some point they decided it would be super fun if every fucking new place required a billion hours of pogoing and plarforming to get anywhere and do anythingIt fucking isn't
>>540063750don't worryit gets worse
Hornet rape
>>540063892
>>540063892... go on
>>540063892t. lace
Do I have to commit the homophobic hate crime to get 100% my save?
>>540064415you should be based for its own sake, whether it counts towards completion is an entirely different matter
>>540064415yes. it's canon
>>540064415Hornet says Total Faggot Death and Total Fly Death
>>540064050the slaps scenes are cute, i do feel bad for hitting kratt though
>>540032551I'm stuck there too, I have no more money to build the floor spikes and I've been trying to brute force it without themI've reached that part at full health + some silk on the floor from prior fights and it is still impossibleI've been stuck there for almost 7h playtime and my pride won't let me go back to get more tools
>>540037472>There's a tool in the game that has the description “good for dealing with flying enemies”.>just waste a tool worth 10 shards on flying mooks that will spread a whopping 4 shards across the entire screen on death bro
>>540064854Is it the last wave only that's giving you trouble? I didn't use tools and abused my silk skill (silk spear I think) to quickly de-health the two big guys.
>>540064205t. yuricuck
>>540065746nuu x lace yuri
>>540065746false, I'm self inserting as Hornet
>>540063892Greyroot calm down
>>540065530>Doesn't use the options the game gives to him>"WTF why is this game hard!"If you're really worried about preserving shards just buy shard bundles
What the fuck is Nuu anyways, a snail? She isnt obsessed with void. Could she be related somehow to Khan's fallen kingdom, given her physiology and obsession with violence?
>>540065573>Is it the last wave only that's giving you trouble?yeah, how many spears does it take to take one?
>>540066435like 3 , but why not just spam the cogflies or the cogwheel on their ass? I think even the bitch basic boomerang would work against them.
>>540065530>deplete resources for an easy kill or try harder to conserve themIt's called fucking game design you mong. If the enemies all killed themselves there wouldn't be much point.
>>540066580because I ran out of the materials to recover tools in benches and I don't want to go back and buy more
>>540064854Have you at least despawned the silkmaidens? You just need double jump.
>>540040162>>540041396 (me)>>540041542>>540041623 (me)Did it again. If you hit it, you can kinda deflect it, but it still goes forward, and you take damage if it hits you. I don't think you can do the bullet time / frenzy parry since it doesn't do the signature parry slow down moment (I misremembered). Also, at the end, you can see you can pogo off of it too.So yeah, you can it hit, slightly deflect it, pogo it, but Idk if one can say this counts as being able to parry it since it can still damage you if touches you.Gonna switch to architect and spam tacks and snares since I'm tired of this guy.
>>540066435I think it's at least 3. I remember not being able to kill them with only spears. If you're lucky, or do it right, you can hit them both with a single spear.
It's just amazing how they manage to put conchfly spawns in the absolutely most cancerous and annoying place possible every timeI don't know what happened to TC to make them become such sadistic fucking cunts to think their game had to be as assholey as humanly possible
>>540066689nta, but you can despawn them? How?
>>540066985I can't think of any that were particularly bad.
>>540067114Theres a room up to the left of the high halls save, push the cart and double jump up into the vent. You gotta go a little further in and break this big silk thing.
>>540066985If it's the second one in the L.Judge runback, they removed it in one of the updates.
>>540065995tranny?
>>540067269So that's what that baby carriage was for? I figured there was something to it, but I couldn't figure it out. I tired the water too, but I guess I didn't wait long enough.
>>540067576no... just using the power of imagination. how's your apple looking?
I kinda like her, but this is the kinda stuff that makes people go missing.
>>540067290No, it's the big one in the pogo section at the start of karak that shows up when you're on a platform that's disappearing in about half a second
How do you get the cool shit
>>540068017Just avoid it and go to the right, there's a stable platform there.
>>540067761>using his power of imagination to self insert as a girl instead of imagining himself Weak and pathetic
>>540068079There is no cool shit in this shit game. It's just basic attack and pogo forever.
>>540068772more like cool and canonical. i don't want to imagine myself having sex with a bug. have you ever SEEN bug sex? that shit is fucked up. bugs are for bugs
wtf this troon is even talking about lol
>>540068079Sorry, bro, cool shit machine is broken right now.
>>540066435Last wave is a joke. Just camp on the wall and pogo on heads. They can't touch you up there.
>>540069078Which one? You, or the one you're talking to?
>Team Cherry: hmm what if we took all the badthings about the Vietnam War and put them in an actual zone? Wouldn't that be fun???Wtf were they thinking with Bilewater?
>>540069681trolled to death
>>540069681Its kino
i think we can all agree that Sherma is for bullying
>>540069975*/ss/ rape
Bilewater is Hunter's March 2.0: underleveled idiots keep bashing their heads on the wall instead of going somewhere else.
Am I not meant to go to the top yet? I don't see how to get there, I can't jump here and the other path is blocked by a bridge or something
>>540070375Hint, kick the seed that creates the platforms and drop down.
>>540070493What seed? There's none in this room I can reach
>>540070731If you can't go up, then you must go...
is the Cavern that the pinstress talk about in Mount Fay open by act 2? or is it Act 3 exclusive?
>>540066825I could deflect them with reaper, but I also had the yellow tool that increased push and decreased the push that enemies inflict to you if you're hit, so maybe that's what you're lacking.
What's the deal with Mushroom man? Why does he talk like that?
>>540070872You'll need a skill from act 3 to reach it.
>>540034848Double jump is not optional, it’s required to reach act 3
>>540070787I am so fucking tired of pogoing anonSo fucking tired of the endless platformingWhy can't I just walk places for a change
>>540068017just pop off 2 cogflies nigger.
>>540071119i suppose its around up there then? everywhere else has a ceiling
>>540071554You see the entrance near the frozen flea.
music in choral chambers is beautiful. first background track to really grip me jesus
>>540071253This is your life now, pogoing and platforming.
Platforming > Combat
>>540071794Enjoy it while it lasts because everything after it is fucking pain, misery and furstration.
why would the Cherry niggers make getting the Flea caravan nail upgrade harder than the bosses it's supposed to make easier? WHY THE FUCK
Shit > Silksong
>>540071612all right, checked a video of where it is.i would never find it alone
>>540071794All the Citadel tracks are great.
Okay I'm fucking done with this bullshit, I'm leaving this place and if whatever's at the end of it isn't mandatory I'm not coming backI'm genuinely, unironically just god damn sick of the endless pogoing and platforming on a timer It's not fucking fun, it's just annoying and stressful and frustrating and I'm tired of forcing myself to try and beat itFuck you
>>540072594WORMED.
Just realized, a 100% save is less unique than a midway-through save.At 100% you have all maps, all tools, everything done, all your uniqueness is in your bell home, your crest build, and whatever optional things you did/didn't doisn't that weird? I wanted to do optional things to remember what I've done, but that in itself removes my unique mark on the game as everyone can do everything there is but people will unlock and explore is massively different ways so my 78% completion may be totally unique while my 100% completion is the same as a thousand others
>>540072594lol gitgud it is required in act 3 btw
>>540072594Hehehehe
Does Mushroom ending replace the normal one, or I can do both at the same time?It I not, can I return to do it after descending into abyss second time?
>>540072594>watch video of this run>I was basically at the end of it when I diedOkay so I guess I can do it but these australians are insane if they expect me to do this every time I have to go back to the boss, unless there's some shortcut the video didn't show
>>540073120mushroom is a postcredits sceneonly 1 ending in act 3
>>540073169There is a shortcut but since you are dumb and angry I could see you missing it without help.
>>540073169There is a shortcut when you reach the bridge.
>>540072438damn 1 shard nice
Did I fuck up? I'm missing 2 abyss creatures for journal completion, but how do I get the memento if I go down to abyss?
Okay well I didIt's still bullshit
>>540073870You can come back
>>540073898Go into next room lol
>>540073256I found it all by myself ok
>>540073898>I didNo you didn't lol.
>>540071253*Laughs in cogworks core*
>>540074002>>540074678I know there's a bossI meant I finished the platforming section
How's Silksong compared to P5?
>>540074708I'm not great at platforming, but I didn't find that place hard at all.
>be me>just trying to make some story progress tonight>get to act 3 and make my way through the abyss>arrive at the runback to escape the abyss>die 3 three times progressing through it>the last time I had plasmium overdosewhat the fuck is wrong with TC? I just wanted to play a bit tonight but instead I get to put it off until next time, and I'm definitely using a guide to see the full path/runback to prevent having to go through 3+ minutes of platforming again, only to die because I guessed the next jump wrong or didn't see it quick enough and missed it because it required full height or fast timing due to the lava on my ass.to be clear, I would not have an issue with this if it was optional. I do optional shit and have fun because I expect shit like that.
>>540074732>beat Sands of Karak after the sandworms were nerfed to only deal 1 damageYou didnt beat Sands of Karak
>>540074739Well, one is a rpg while the other is a metroidvania.
How long's the timer for the courier's rashers delivery?
>>540074969>getting filtered by absolute kinoIts like a minute long lmao, just equip magma bell if you suck that bad
>>540075186Dunno the timer, but if looking for help, there's pre-killing, the anklets, and the flea juice, and beast crest bind.
>>540072594Filtered
>>540075304I'm thinking of going bellhart>shellwod>blasted steps>underworks>chambers
how many oils to get 4th nail upgrade? i want to skip this flea juggle game
>>540075189it's not. they place three bugs back to back, the third being juuuuust out of reach but still look like a timing issue, only to learn there's a tiny ass wall on the far left that you can barely see because you came from the left, just below that and it was out of sight.>just equip magma bell if you suck that badare you retarded? the fuck is that going to do in that situationI probably would have gotten it in a try or two if I went in with the mindset I go in to optional platforming where I expect them to rail you in the ass as much as possible.
>>540075497Underworks? Just go from blasted steps directly to chambers through the grand gates. That's what I did.
>>540075739You mean from the room with the elevator that takes you down? I guess I never explored that after getting double jump and shit, I'll check that first for alternate entrances to the city
>>540075497>>540075739 (me)>>540075872
So if I finished Silksong and wanted to go back and play Hollow Knight, would that be a lot easier? I kind of want to know the story, but I don't want to get my shit pushed in again so soon
>>540075957Most of HK is orders of magnitude easier, especially the platforming
>>540075691>what is the magma bell going to doKeep your scrub ass from dying to the lava like you already said happened
The pacing of this shitstain game is terrible. What's the point of tasking the player with the same tedious acrobatic shit? To wear one out?
>>540075957Silksong gameplay changes completely after Act 1 into tool focused, so unless you played without tools, I doubt it translates super well.
>>540076319What does an optional act 3 challenge have to do with pacing
>>540076141you haven't made it to act 3, have you
>>540076319I really liked this part, I just wish the surface had been a bit more fleshed out.
>>540073169this was around the time i started to check out an ask my friends and check guides to see if areas and quests were worth doing.God i wish this game was playtested.
>>540075957It's WAY easier.The only bosses that are as difficult as your regular SS bosses are dlc ones. Those are all optional.
>>540076534I have 100% the game and beaten Steel Soul, meanwhile you are getting dumpstered by the amazing abyss climb. Get real dude.
>>540076583>God i wish this game was playtested.It really does feel like it wasn't tested at allThey spent 7 years becoming experts at their own game and thought it was going to be as easy for everyone else
Garmond bossfight is just retarded
>>540076682>I have 100% the game and beaten Steel Soulyet you have no idea how the lava works in that section? sure, mate.
>>540076958I admit I have never gotten damaged at that part because I dont suck dick, I assume it deals 2 damage like all other lava. Magma Bell drops that to 1, and since you suck and died it might help you out. Am I wrong and it only deals 1?
>>540076319You're a dumb faggot and I'm glad you're not having a good timeUninstall the game and don't come back
>>540075304>pre killingFUCK, that was an option. I just used the ankles and flea's piss to bumrush the course.
>>540076837They don't exactly have to be good at their game to, well, be good at their game. The intimate knowledge and understanding of every mechanic and enemy in the game makes a huge difference. They know patterns, timing, ranges/zones, placements, etc. and they designed everything with certain methods in mind to overcome them.
>>540077062the lava rapidly fills the screen, the bell isn't likely to allow you to recover from a missed jump
>>540066825Good shit anon, that's what I had meant by tanking the hit. It does the parry flash but you still get hit.Now I have to wonder if the architect charge attack will actually kill them or something, I'm presuming since they still hit the player and deal damage aftet seemingly taking damage they're actually entities in the game, and have an HP pool.... Anyone at this point in the game and want to install the HP bar mod and test?
>>540074708That was easy. Even with 2 damage saws.
>>540077485But the lava recedes during the reset.
>>540077485And then when you get hit, I assume it functions exactly like the far fields lava climb and fades to black and lets you continue.
>>540075497Just go through the Organ.
>>540077770I haven't even found that area yet
>>540076416It's atrocious. Too much padding between different sections of the game.>>540077207>t. one tranny speedrunnerI had good time with the first game, that was before TC invited you over to make a game that caters specifically to your needs, you dilating faggot.
Is Architect worth it if I really just want to drill? Sure I'll throw out a tool or two but I really just want to charge attack.
>>540077770>Lol just micromanage the hazardsfuck off.
>>540077947>if you dont suck ass you're a tranny
is the flea minigames any easier on keyboard?
Moorwing is impossible.This game sucks fucking dog dick.
Trying out witch near the endgame and its kit is actually pretty solid. The dash attack gains extra silk, its pogo is solid, its charge attack does a lot of damage. You just have to get used to its bind and kinda requires you to know when exactly its safe to bind instead of just backing off and healing.
>>540078105Just finish the flea caravan and skip him and come back. Or just stop jumping into the blades.
>>540078171its nearly impossible to heal when the enemy moves too much, too frustrating, i love it though
>>540078105If you are really suffering, why not try the cheese strat? also git gud.
>>540078345There's nowhere else to go, except to the right which leads to the gank birds which is more impossible and has a shittier runback.>>540078457>cheese stratPlease spoonfeed me
what was greyroot's endgame, bros?
>>540078621Find 5 fleas and skip him
>>540078086>that meager attempt at moving the goalpostDefine sucking ass. I will beat this section of the game, just like I beat every other. There's nothing innately "hard" about doing repeating shit, because a human's brain is hardwired to remember things, henceforth clearing stuff like this does not grant you any elitist badge of le hecking dark souls veteran.
>>540078621Just go back to the upper right entrance of the room. There's nothing keeping you in the boss arena. He will get stuck trying to fly toward you and you can hit him through the floor with crests that have a long range down attack.
>>540078709I can't find the fifth flea. I've been everywhere I can think of.
>>540078703Grow
So, why no shade cloak equivalent in this game?
>>540078621https://youtu.be/Nx8IOorIo-w?si=KYY0wft2HYdimjc6To be fair I knew about the cheese, but I wanted to beat him the legal way.
>>540078808Nigga there are like a million fleas in the game, you'll find one
>>540078917Is it not hard enough?
>>540076319You can heal by hitting the endlessly spawning enemies
>>540078923>the legal wayFuck that. Fuck this faggot game. If I could I'd toggle infinite HP and no collision.
>>540078954Shade cloak, nigger
>>540079047You canIt's called moddingFeel free to go do thatNo one cares about how you "play" video gamesFaggot
Why did they do it?>>540078917Soul dash thing.
>>540079047First sinner will eat you alive.
>>540079248Did what? Get absorbed by Hornet?
>>540079248Too slow and costs silk...
>>540079248They were still seething and sneeding over what happened in Shartloom. They wanted her to eventually grow and return and rape GMS. Herrah, however, was a good mom and basically told her>You should do what you desire and not what others wish of youHerrah and the Pale Lady (maybe Vespa, too) were better mothers than the majority of the whymyn bugs of Shartloom. Hallownest is just built different. Everyone there was a chad or chaddette
>>540078923I think they patched it because he won't follow me up that high.
I thought Hornet's last needle upgrade would be golden...
>>540078105nigga if you think moorwing is impossible you will never even finish act 1
>>540073870Is that encountered/completed in the game or a mod
>>540079571The red dream is kind of strange because Vespa's scene seems to imply Hornet was training in case Pharloomfags came for her but in reality she would've been training to fight the infectionThough maybe at that moment they all thought the infection was dealt with hy the Hollow Knight
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVs7b7iHgbcAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH lmaoooooooooo my absolutely obliterated sides. I genuinely haven't laughed this hard in months. I mean to the point of pain, the kind of laughing where it instantly makes you dizzy, first, then progresses to searing pain. You know the kind.LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 11/10 game but this is so fucking funny.>ARI ARI WAKE UPAhahahahahahahaha.
>I've beaten Steel SoulDo you anons really think that's a flex? We know you save scummed when you died and just saved & quit when you were low health.
>>540080581No, that's just what you would do.
>>540079047https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/19>>539801779
>>540080750Whatever helps you sleep at night, anon.
>>540078717>there's nothing innately hard about itLMAO COOOOOOPE, or you wouldnt be crying about it while posting your character almost dead
>>540080581There is no need to be this insecure
This thread has one shitposter/troll that replies to everyone having a hard time with a part of the game or making valid criticisms.
>>540080034every single thing he says is 100% truethe game is just a pile of bullshit designed to HAHA OWNED the player for literally no reason other than to be an asshole and make people angry
>>540081275List these valid criticisms and we'll see whether my peerlessly objective self agrees eh?
>>540081159your reply to their claim shows your insecurity anongit gud
>>540081275There's definitely more than one, because its very, very funny to laugh at people sucking at the game and saying the game is bad as a result. Legitimate criticisms are fine and the game isnt perfect, but you can tell some people here are just awful. Just yesterday the whole general was clowning on some dude who got filtered by Mt Fay.
>>540081442Git gud at what, I've already beaten Steel Soul and did my speedrunner achievements. I'm just here waiting for Silent Hill f to come out.
>>540081483>There's definitely more than oneofc but there's one poster that generally seems to post in the same style.
>>540081309Be challanged is fun. Presenting the player with frustration to overcome is a good thing.Dude himself holds this view, adores the game, which is why he is making such layered wit about it, as a joke. It would only be mildly funny as opposed to intensely funny if that were not the case.You're brown.
>>540077978please guys
>>540080034>troon channel
>Watching Bijou fighting Crawfather>Using Architect + Runes + Volt>Starts off strong using the AoE to wipe the adds, but the instant a Rune cast randomly misses, or she starts taking damage and needs to heal, it's fucking over>The heal is so expensive that she never gets a chance to use the silk art ever again because the adds can't be oneshotted anymore (she doesn't have tools) and she inevitably takes damage again before building up 1.5 bars of silkSilk Arts in this game are the ultimate yolo strat man, unless you're already nohitting the boss it's a maximal feast or famine playstyle
>>540082036Yeah I was a charge attack chad, the drill deals insane damage. Try it with Flintslate for even more damage.
>>540082036Unless you know another crest that lets you drill, I don't see what choice you have.It also has the largest damage out of any charge attack.
*Being challenged
>>540082112Silk skills get exponentially better when you have more silk capacity which she should in act 3.
>>540081893Intentional ragebait is the most toxic form of difficulty
>>540081893The first game understood how to be challenging AND enjoyable, this one doesn't.
>>540082254She does have it but the hard math of needing 8 silks to heal but just 4 silks to cast means that once you start prioritizing the heal you're not casting again. Mob fights are largely just a DPS/item check of "can you oneshot the adds or not." She killed the boss next try by switching to Pale Nails btw just because it wasn't consistently missing the adds.
>>540081483Damn... Sherma gets ALL THREE?
>>540082408Hollow Knight was 99% easy as fuck and 1% the most tedious difficulty ever. Nothing in Silksong is a bigger slog than P5.
>>540082540I don't know what P5 is and why it matters here.
SS stopped being fun near the end of act 2 and at this point I'm just rage 100%ing. May or may not have something to do with TC locking me out of the Garmond duel and souring me. I've barely played the past 10 days but I'll get there.
>>540082521Sounds like she would mesh well with Shaman. Weaverlight and Volt Filament are a potent combo for a spellcaster, thats what I used for a lot of act 3.
>>540080581Okay, and? Still impressive
>>540082653>I dont know why the hardest Hollow Knight combat challenge is relevant to a discussion on Hollow Knight's difficultyOh sorry I thought you knew what you were talking about
>>540082527He deserves them for being that based
>>540032551>>540064854There's no way I'd have done it without the floor spikes tool. Save all your spikes until the end then dump them all on one side of the arena. Then focus all your attacks on that side until one dies. Then you can deal with the other one normally.
>have been incredibly careful and thorough in exploration>buy out every merchant as i encounter them>beat moorwing>check a letsplay >i missed warding bell, reaper crest, and a memory locket Jesus fucking Christ
Can you get shaman/witch before Act 3?
>>540083146>have been incredibly careful and thorough in explorationNo you didn't. because the entry point for reaper's crest is painfully obvious.
>>540083146Isnt Reaper's Crest chapel on the map Shakra sells you? But I can relate to the others, I got very lucky finding Warding Bell blind but I missed the ant merchant items until act 3.
>>540083329There's an achievement for binding with GMS while cursed.
>>540082540This 200%TC were ENTIRELY waranted in markedly ramping up the difficulty because us 112% P5 completers from HK1 would have been intensely bored otherwise, and the game is primarily for us.And this isn't any skin off of >>540082317 >>540082408 (You)r nose, nor bad design.
>>540083383eat the small fly's hit, that way you will save yourself from the 2 mask-hit.
>>540083383Go left, take 1 contact damage and pogo jump to the right to heal. EZ>>540083329Witch yes, Shaman no (sadly, its so fucking fun)
>>540083383At least HK gave you a ghost dash
>>540083480I dunno if you're being sarcastic or not but I have the Embrace the Void cheevo and I still think TC went too far in a few places.
>>540083356One of Shakra's map prefills even.
>>540083383Poor little spider
Do you get enough memory stones to fully unlock every crest?
>>540083552People are sleeping on the dash silk skill, the iframes are useful for getting out of a tough spot.
>>540083507>>540083518You will NOT think of that in the moment. The real answer is to try your hardest not to be put in that situation in the first place.
if you think silksong is too hard you might as well abandon ship now because the dlc and whatever they do next for hollow knight 3 is evidently only going to ramp up the bullshit, they got a terminal case of the fromsoft syndrome
>>540083727You will absolutely think of that in the moment because I made decisions just like that in the fight.
>>540083383gangrape
>>540083728>7 more years
I'm too scared to go back and face Moorwing, even after supposed nerfs. I think I should beat the first HK beforehand.
>>540083931All the HK dlc was out within 2 years
>>540083727the small fly is most likely hitting hornet first anyways, it's faster.
>>540083592Same but I don't. The game is NOT flawless but NONE of the flaws lie in how savagely an enemy/area is designed to not let you beat it.
>>540083648Yes, but the last crest (with two locked slots) and the last two memory lockets are all locked to act 3, specifically gated behind Silk Soar.
>>540083994Just stay close and bait the slash attacks, pogo when it dodges and jump the projectiles. I dont get the Wingmoor struggle desu, its a fair fight.
>>540083994Would you you like the ultra-golden universally applicable piece of fundamentally helpful advice anon?
>>540083727I literally did make decisions like that during my fights>I'm trapped in the corner, best to take a contact hit and get out of here>try to jump and dash between them, hoping to avoid damage, but being okay with a hit>sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. That's life
>>540084281I will not git gud.
>>540084125Nah there's definitely some gay shit I could do without. The climbing sections of choral chambers where you're constantly under fire from bell niggers at the top of your screen out of range of all your weapons were genuinely fucking infuriating, and not in a good way either. In a "fuck this faggy shit dude if the game isn't fun why bother" kind of way.
>>540084476>not smacking projectiles out of the waySkull issue
Do you use any mods?
>>540084864>Fucks up your next jump just to be annoying
>>540085167No, because I play on PS5.But I would.
>>540082795Tedious reloading is not impressive.
>>540085167I'd use mods to give Hornet fun outfits but otherwise not really interested.
>>540083383This is intended. We are not changing SBF. Please get good.Sincerely, Team Cherry.
>>540085167Next time I play I'll mod in>SHAAAWWW ADILLOOOO etc. GARAMA is good but it's not enough for me. Honestly the biggest oversight by TC
>>540085605Should have had SHAW against Lost Lace to be honest, I would have clapped.
>>540084394This is more useful: whenever you are frustrated by a boss and have died more tha 3 times to it: try spending a life not attacking at all and just avoiding all the damage you can. Either as long as you can or until you decide you want to pivot back to aggressionWill consciously and subconsciously teach you loads.
>>540086012I'll give your mom a loads
Being trolled makes a white man give a warmhearted guffaw at the spectacle.Being trolled makes a brown man collapse into hysterics before he explodes into being as generally misanthropic as he can possiblly muster.Have you tried being white? Why have you failed to enjoy being plummeted into maggot water by a broken trap bench? I enjoyed it. I'm white.
I think we all owe the Pale King an apology after seeing how Grand Mother Silk ran her kingdom.
Which crest do you think is the strongest?Which crest do you think is the funnest?
>>540086336>being white means getting cucked by stupid shit and saying thank you can I have anotherwhat did the culture warrior mean by this
Nothing in Silksong is close to being as hard as White Palace/PoP. Get real people. Hornet can fucking float and has a hookshot, learn the controls.
>>540086074Do your damn laundry yourself, anon. You're 28. Fuck.
>>540086480Architect is the strongestShaman or Witch are the most fun Wandererfags are delusional, trading a red for a yellow is trash.
>>540086506Nah thats incongrous with the conceptual meaning of my post. Please, friend, read again. And understand.Do you have any questions I can clarify perhaps?
>>540086724Do you really use multiple different reds in a single fight? Unless you're using cogflies.
>>540086480>>540086724Shaman or Witch can definitely be fun but I really think Hunter is up there too if you can master Hornet's schmovement.
>>540086858I like having multiple tools for air foes and ground foes, the triple knives and buzzsaws were my usual fair. Or swapping in Flinslate or Flea Brew for a buff. One red feels too limiting.
>>540086358we don't really get to see how she runs things. we're told that she is shitty by the people who hate her and trapped her in an unconscious state, but all of the haunting is being perpetrated by an unconscious god, so it's unclear how intentional it is. she probably wasn't the greatest ruler, but I can't imagine that her grand design was a kingdom full of animated corpses considering how her main motivating factor is her incredible loneliness
>>540086963Oh yeah Hunter is good and has very high dps if you're avoiding damage. Definitely not a bad crest. Honestly I dont think any of the crests are bad. Beast isnt great for navigation but it rules in combat and Reaper has a pretty cool moveset.
>>540086724I agree. 3 reds and either a charged drill or silk skill can just kill anything in seconds.
>>540087096>but all of the haunting is being perpetrated by an unconscious god, so it's unclear how intentional it is. Her first act upon waking up is to try and kill you which is what all her puppets were already trying to do.
>>540087240to be fair, you challenge her to a fight after you beat the shit out of her favorite daughter
>>540087096The only thing we know for sure about her rule was that she blew up all the surrounding kingdoms to make the Citadel and enslaved their populations with a fake religion to keep her daughters pampered as demigod-queens. So right off the bat she's doing worse than the PK desu. Hallownest was at least designed to be a functioning kingdom instead of a scam to funnel infinite resources into Weaver mouths.
Friendly reminder that there is a type of spider that lactates.
>>540087371>enslaved their populations with a fake religion to keep her daughters pampered as demigod-queenskind of based
I'm seeing conflicting info regarding the twisted bud, so just to be clarify you can still do the twisted bud quest in act 3 even with the two dudes being dead?
>>540086358What did Pale King do? Sure, the vessel plan wasn't very well thought out but I don't think he's ever protrayed as a bad ruler
>>540087371I bet if Khan's army, the ants and Verdania all attacked at once they could take her. Still not sure what the fuck Nyleth's deal was outside of being sexy.
Total Weagger Death
>>540087408care to explain?
>>540088149https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/science/spiders-milk.html>Researchers in China have discovered that females of the Toxeus magnus spider secrete a milk-like fluid to feed their offspring. The study, published Thursday in the journal Science, also found the arachnid mothers continue to provide the fluid, which contains about four times as much protein as cow’s milk, well after their spawn had become young adults.
It's kind of funny how Hornet invades the Green Prince's memories, defiles them, then kills him and steals his heart for literally no fucking reason lol
>>540088515It makes sense to kill Green Prince or Karmelita for the 3 heart questline but doing either afterward makes her look like the biggest cunt in the world.
>>540086573White palace difficulty is just sightly above hunter marsh.Remove your nostalgia googles and replay HK anon.
>>540088515>>540088641She just hates gay people.
>>540087863Nyleth controlled the plants. She essentially created Shellwood and other planty areas. She could have easily given much shelter to the bugs opposing citadel and not even the citadel could get her so they sent Seth as a peace offering. It's not really said what killed her but...I am willing to bet it was Greyroot. Her Parasite baby was found in the vines after all. Wouldn't be surprised if Nyleth was the original victim.
>>540080034You don't need to post this several times
>>540088736She's a lesbian so I doubt that.
>>540088801Oh thats cool, I like that idea.
>>540088641love these clockwork dudes
>>540088641>but doing either afterward makes her look like the biggest cunt in the world.Atleast you can hang up the last heart you get as a memento. I wish I knew this earlier. I would have killed Karmelita last since she was the most challenging. Now I am stuck with the Crust heart...
>>540089014It just makes her conversation with Gilly hilarious>These lands will wither and die for what may be generations, but this heart will do great good.And then she puts it in her house lol.
>act 3>do these three songs>go to the sands of karak>5 gauntlets back to back>it doesnt carry progress overok>go to greymoor>gigantic area>very fast and annoying enemy gauntlet>2 minute runback>very fast and annoying boss>2 minute runbackokcan i safely assume the third one will also be an annoying patience check and just go and farm shell shards for tool usages? where to farm for beads in act 3?
>>540089014crust is the most visually appealing though, it's the best to show off
>better a frail silk's daughter than nothingA-are we the bad guys?
>>540089179>5 gauntlets back to back>it doesnt carry progress overOH NO NO NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA SOMEONE MISSED THE SHORTCUTAlso why would you need to farm shards for dream battles, they arent used.
>>540039078I just used Shaman crest with voltwyrm, weavelight and quickbinder in the verticrest. Grip on the yellow slot so I can wall hold easily. Then chip her down with a combo of silk nails, cross stitch for defense and spear for some burst damage against her from a safe range (like during her phase 3 multi-warp attack after she lands).
>>540044738>Groal fight>he goes to eat me>he does>I frantically spam attack>he takes loads of damage>I had just healed via Reaper form before he ate me>he's now puking silk balls everywhere as I rend his innard to pieces>I'm also generating silk because I'm using normal attacks>he horks me back up after 2 masks of damage (Reaper bind effect still worked even while I was taking damage inside him)>he dives into the muck>I scoop up silk balls>heal again>got enough silk balls leftover to get me another heal>hug a corner and repeat this as necessary until he diesOnce you realize that vore is the answer he becomes the easiest boss.
>>540087794I don't know but if I had to take a guess, probably, yeah. They have an item you need and they sell it to you. If they die, they most likely drop it just like the other NPCs that die during the game.
>>540089308There's a shortcut?
>>540087863Who in the fuck makes fanart and then watermarks it to hell and applies grain to make removal impossible? Fuck that guy. Looks mostly traced any way.
>>540090629After the third one, yeah.
>>540088850>Dykes can't hate fagsAnon...
>>540060516Skull Tyrant doesn't come back
>>540090765Her siblings are all genderless, I'm sorry bro but she's woke.
>>540078917Bro your shard dart? Although I think cross stitch is the better option for purely reactive "let me press a button and avoid incoming damage" kinds of plays.
>>540089014It could be worse, you could be stuck with the gay bug heart like me.
>>540088850actually, she thinks that Lace is really ugly and repulsive
>>540090086>Once you realize that vore is the answer he becomes the easiest boss.I wonder if the devs intended that? There are real life cases of humans dying from swallowing bees/hornets.
>>540092346Act 3 proves you wrong though
>>540084476Lightning spear my dude. Plant it on the ground, hit it once to angle it towards the little bell-tossing fucker and laugh as he gets pic related by lightning.
>>540092560i was just messin with you
>>540093674Fair enough!
>bosses like Skarrsinger Karmelita can block witch heal tentaclesWhy is this crest so bad?
>>540083384there's a fucking ant merchant?? i looked ALL OVER THE HUNTER'S MARCH
>>540094251In the room above the bench, with all the shards strung up on ropes, jump to the left.
>>540094251Yeah, he's in the tunnel above the trap bench at the end of a hallway filled with spikes and traps. If you don't get his stuff before act 2 he gets killed and you only get his mask and then find the curveclaw nearby in another room after a small fight.
>>540094474somehow i've managed to find super hidden walls based purely on vibes, while walking right past the most obvious shit
>>540094670Ain't that a fucking mood bro.
So what does the Vessel spend all his time doing as the Shade Lord, anyway?
>>540095454raping radiance in all sorts of positions
>>540095823>gods don't die when they get pulled into the abyss>they just get banished to the abyssal sex dungeon>all of the gods we've witnessed getting ABYSSED are female
>>540083727I have done that in situations like that, strategically being hit by 1 mask enemies to get away from the 2 mask ones
Where is the Hollow Knight currently? Chilling back home?
>hear a flea sleeping in a room in the citadel>find a broken wall leading to a path to it>path is a thin vertical passage with sawblades on the sides>pogo up sawblades because it's the only way I could>later on, find another broken wall lower in the room>mfw it has a fan
>>540097557Based and Wandererpilled
>>540097669I was using Hunter though
>just watched a speedrunner get true ending in a little over 5 hoursJesus Christ
>>540099760It's easy when you cheat
Are there any good silksong loretubers right now, or should I just wait for mossbag?
>>540097448Not like there's much to do there with how few of Hallownest's original subjects are left that weren't reanimated corpses
>>540100140He wasnt cheating though...
>>540091725The skills are so cool but I feel like I barely use them, same in HKThe trade-off between healing or some extra damage just isn't worth it for me most of the time
>>540091725shart dart>>540092560why are c/u/cks like this? the "art" you post isn't even hothornet most likely doesn't care if lace lives or dies as long as she doesn't take all of pharloom along with her
I'd rather have an invincible dash that I can use for free than Sharpdart
>>540100617>hornet most likely doesn't care if lace lives or dies The game proves you wrong since she could have dumped her ass in the abyssal sea on the way up.
>>540100838But she did let her go, Ghost saved them bothRetard
>>540100838Hornet is more honorable than that and GMS helped her escape
>>540100838Lace's cock is huge in this
>>540100712>I'd rather the game be significantly easierWe know, shitter.
>>540100838i know c/u/cks are illiterate but you missed the part where i said>as long as she doesn't take pharloom along with hergrnany silk is dead so unless lace remains hostile (she's been nothing but an antagonist up to this point 'rember?) why would hornet care for her?
>>540100953She passed out from the abyssal cum, she didnt so it willingly.
>>540101105I already beat the game, retarded nigger>Hollow Knight is for shitters nowlol, kill yourself
>>540101290>Hollow Knight is for shitters nowthat's been the general consensus when comparing between silksong and hollow knight, yeah
>>540101258Cope
>>540101391>True Ending shows their pins togetherCope
I wonder if 'Last Dive' could be a Made in Abyss reference or just a coincidence
>All those people having trouble with bossesYou're having trouble because you don't use Crests correctly. You're supposed to use Crests most suitable for current boss battle. It's like playing pokemon... with only one pokemon. It's no wonder you have trouble.
>>540101529>calling needle a pinyurifags need to pipe down about the game they know nothing about but profess to be relationship experts in (the characters are both hot and so they should be in a relationship)
>>540101529>/u/schizo grasping at strawsThe usual
>>540101653You can beat the entire game with hunter just fine. Especially with the Eva upgrades.
>>540101653Probably>>540101767I did this
>>540074969>>die 3 three times progressing through itIs that a lot? I thought I didn't have much trouble, but I died like 10 times more than you.
>>540101653people who suck at bosses are doing one or more of the following:>trying to "damage race" the boss>trying to greed a heal instead of just dodging the attack>getting hit by random shit instead of not getting hitcrests can help bandaid over poor play but they cannot replace a poor player's inability to play the game
>POSHANKA
>>540101725Oh dont be an autist, everyone knew what I meant lmao
Played some tonight>beat moorwingWas meh. I missed him cause of the caravan, and so he kinda surprised me but I just hid under the hallway and poked him and won. I know he was nerfed but no nerf would be greater than me having the upgraded nail so idrc>mistCool area. Stealth section with butterflies I guess, gimmick area and all. Liked the theme, was scary>OrganAlright>PhantomBest fight in the game so far I think. Took a couple tries, it’s like Lace but a little harder. Hardest part was not trying to dodge his pin throw before it happened cause it goes where you are and not where you were. 99% of my attacks were dash attacks.>miscGot lifeblood in worm works and found Nuu eating the decaying corpse of the conchfly. Then he tried kissing me at the inn. Fucker.
i liek the taunt even doe i almost never used them
>>540101957then how come you can't know what everyone else means when they tell you to stop inserting your fetish into the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQv0Zbu_EMFlintslate Architect got nerfed, Volt Filament got buffed. Charge attacks all generate silk now.
>>540102038>his pinOh no no no...>>540102103Weird post
>>540102146>Charge attacks all generate silk now.GEE FUCKING FINALLYTHANKS FOR DOING THIS AFTER I BEAT THE FUCKING GAME TEAM CHERRYGuess at least I have a good chance at 100% though
>>540102146Architect charge attack is now definitively the best attack in the game. Techgods WON
>>540102149Sorry bro… I meant his CANE NEEDLE.
>>540102038>Then he tried kissing me at the inn>he That's a female, Anon. Also she tried to vore you, not kiss.
>>540102146>Hunter charge attack generates 2 silkHunterCHADS stay winning
>clip or post of someone calling X easy>using wanderers crestevery. time.
>>540102425Isn't it basically two attacks, each of which enemy can independently dodge/deflect? Why not just attack twice instead?
>>540102475Wanderer is highly situational. Sometimes Reaper is objectively better, depending on enemies. Hunter is all-rounder.
>>540102494Because there are plenty of situations when you can't be dealing damage. Charging a charge attack during those situations to be used once you can deal damage again is better than doing nothing.
>>540102589Wanderer can facetank 90% of the content, only bosses that actively teleport or air camp and avoid attacks while doing so force it to actually attempt to play the game.
>>540102338I want to kill Nuu
>>540102494Does more damage, well, if the second hit lands
Is Hunter an honest crest?
>>540102806It's the only honest crest.
>>540102708rude, it's just a kid>>540102806it's literally the default crest
>>540102852Yeah but in Dark Souls 3 the sell swords and longsword are cheat mode weapons
Its so funny seeing this general shift from 2 weeks shitting blood about the difficulty to getting mad at people winning with "dishonest" crests.
>>540102146I've been playing witch and frequently use charge attacks with pin badge and flint, you can equip weighted belt and it removes the knockback from the charge attack while giving you full control of which direction you're moving.
>>540102891maybe cuz dark souls is easy
>>540101641>Hornet uses a white object created through sacrifice to dive into the abyss
Oh
>>540104873Slab'd
>>540104536It’s around the same as this game.
>Oh you want to climb Mount Fay? Here's the video guide on how to do that, in this guide we use Faydown Cloak which allows you to double-jump and gives immunity to cold, btw.>Oh you want to do to Bilewater? Just go through Putrefied Ducts, bro>Oh you want this item? Just go through this tunnel (which is blocked from other side, so you can't go through there)Are people online senile, or is this trolling?
>>540105805>looking up area guidesYou deserve the trolling
>>540104873Why is she so fucking hot
>>540105920https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THloBnjRjTY
So was Widow Nth Sinner? What's her "sin"?
>>540104980No, it isn't
>>540105805>>Oh you want to do to Bilewater? Just go through Putrefied Ducts, broHow is this wrong?>>540106153She remained loyal to GMS, so she was most likely tortured by the other weavers
>>540106369The way is blocked from the other side.
The Knight would shit on Pharloom. Descending Dark and Abyss Shriek would fuck everything up over hereon another note Wander crest + Flintslate + injector band + multibind shits on the entire game just run up and slash slash slash face tank and quick heal 4 whenever
>>540106153>>540106369Widow was not a "sinner" she was captured and staked and mindbroken into serving GMS.
>All Silk skills have retardedly long charge-up time, during which Hornet is a sitting duck.why.HK had Shade Cloak, and neither Sharpdart nor Clawline are good enough.
>>540106945Pale Nails FUCKS
>>540106251Pontiff Aldrich Nameless King Dragonslayer Armor Lothric Soul of Cinder Friede Demon Princes Midir and Gael are around the same as Silksong’s hardest. Only the areas in DS3 lack compared to SS.
>>540102038
>>540106153This >>540106886
Do you know if I can still fight Palestag if I beat the main boss in Lost Verdania?I found out I have enough orbs to do the fight now with the Palestag fight being the only ones I didn't collect
>>540107796No, I assume it gets added to your journal like the other mobs.
>>540107219>DLCslop
>>540107863The hardest HK content is DLCslop...Silksong will be the same.
So the Weavers we find sealed into the rocks, like the one who gave you Silkspear, who put them there? The Citadel trying to squeeze every last drip of Silk out of them? GMS taking revenge on her traitorous daughters?
>hornet will NEVER get shade cloak because she's supposed to get the everbloom which deletes the void
>>540107382/ss/CHAD
So there are 3 ways now to enter act 2https://youtu.be/c3L_f9l7GXc?si=JLo_m7eGVH6SZbZ5
>>540107843Got itIs there a point to unlocking the "shortcut" blocked by the gauntlet? It feels like the other path is basically the same as the other one to the boss
>>540108851I mean I did it just because, I think it has some fewer enemies but I beat the boss on my second try so I dont really remember.
>>540108101I'm pretty sure the shade cloak would literally kill you if you weren't made of void
>>540108823What’s the path for act 1 faydown?
>missible shit by chapterThe most inexcusable game mechanic.How can you even tell what chapter you're in?
>>540110085Retard
>>540110085What the fuck are you talking about
>Check back on my HK save after 6 years or so>108%>Never actually beat Path of Pain despite getting to the last kingsmoulds (No seal of binding entry in journal)>Can't get past grimm in pantheon of the sageDamn... Oh well, uninstalling again
Can you reenter memories after you've beaten them? just realized I didn't complete some of the journal entries.
>>540111534They get auto entered
>>540110670>>540109304>act 1>>540083384Chapter/act, whatever. Fuck you.
>>540111865There a big, unmissable title cards when you start a new act.
>>540111865There is nothing missable in the entire game outside of two optional duels that dont even count towards your journal progression. They just put in the acts as a narrative framing device and to provide more guidance than Hollow Knight's open ended structure.
>>540111865So have you not actually played the game or what?
>>540109304https://youtu.be/BC9LS9KuCJo?si=MmRNiA9BszonvTWu
>>540112035Some "missed" items in earlier acts are better to be obtained in later acts too. Magnetite Dice and Fractured Mask can be looted for free off the corpses of their vendors in Act 2.
>>540112474True but Fractured Mask and the boomerang are really handy in act 1 and worth the 400 rosaries imo. Totally agree on the dice though.
>>540112474The dice is also free, in fact it will net you a little bit of money.
>>540112035Damn that art is amazing.
>>540085167better 3d audio, wider fov, HK Hornet voice linesthe only gameplay mod I'm using makes playing the needolin free
>>540112898How much? In Act 2 money is really easy to farm. You can get 120+ rosaries per minute by Sharpdarting the three pilgrims next to the bench below the High Halls entrance.
>>540113097Almost nothing, 40, but my point is that grabbing it in act 1 costs nothing, there's no reason to wait for act 2.
>>540113158I can't be assed to play dice and wait for the cue so looting it feels good. It's right next to the Blasted Steps bellway anyway.
>>540113373I just rolled normally and won every time without realizing you could hold it
>>540086012>Steel soulNice try
What the fuck were they thinking with Bilewater? Who would put such a horrible area in the endgame? It's like watching a tv show you're loving and then the final season is so abhorrent it taints the whole experience
>>540110085>How can you even tell what chapter you're in?The game tells you, man
>>540114307Endgame?
>>540089179>5 gauntlets back to backRetards ONCE AGAIN proving that there is NO LEGITIMATE CRITICISM of Silksong AT ALL
How do all those people make it to First ShrineEven if Last Judge is dead it's still a trip full of dangers that the average bug wouldn't be able to handle
>>540097557I struggled for 15m trying to do a combination of pogoing, wall clinging, double jumping, and clawlineing to get to get up thereMade it by sheer chance to above the second pair of SHAAWWWsGave up and came back with reaper instead of wandererInstantly climbed upI was quite upset nglDidnt even know about the fan till these threadsI assumed I had done a heckin skip for the only flea that was intended for Act 3's super jump
>>540102149Erotic butt and legs
Quick questionCan you enter the citadel via the slab if you get captured? Or is there some block preventing you from crossing the bridge that connects the areas? If so, that means there are actually 3 paths to get into Act 2? If that's the case is there a different cutscene for the slab entrance? I know the cutscene for entering via the exhaust organ is different from the grand gate
I dont care about completionism so some fleas will remain locked in dark dusty hidden nooks forever, sorry
>>540114642Bilewater is feasibly the last area you will explore besides the Abyss since it’s the only one that requires faydown cloak to properly navigate.
>>540079757In game. You need to find a special item in act3.
>>540101653Then I have to learn how to use each crest. That's too much work for me. I'm at the point where I'd still rather brute it all with a single crest.
>>540087817Good economy, free benches. Public transportation that actually works. Plans to expand into deadly territories like deepnest. Focus on learning and education.
>>540102038>Best fight in the game so far I think.Yeah, she's pretty cool.
act 3 is really not fun to play
>>540116510Most of act 2 isn't either
>>540106369>How is this wrong?You can't got that way without passing Groal already.
>>540116510>>540116642FilteredStop playing
Soul magic in HK were much cooler than gay silk attacks
>>540105805He's literally showing you how to climb step by step, no double jump needed, you're meant to see the route and do the parkout yourself.
>>540115771I made it up only using pogo and double jump. Wall clinging is bait even with Ascendant's Grip. Clawlining can result in colliding with the saw above.
>>540116074The path to the Citadel is locked by a lever from the Citadel side.
>>540117209Naruhodo
>>540112258This was too impressive.
>>540113519Even if you do that, you don't get the dice though, right?
How does Joseph Anderson feel about the game? I can't be fucked to look it up, but I imagine he fucking hates it, considering he wasn't even a fan of Hollow Knight 1.
>>540116074You need apostile key to exit slab, so no.
>>540118016yes, he gives it to you after 5 or so wins
>>540118095Coulda sworn I won 5 times in a row from pure luck, and he didn't give it. It's possible I miscounted and it was actually just 4 times I guess.
>>540118047Anon I know you are this anon >>540080034
What's the lore for Sinner's Road? Seems like a big name, but I don't really know why it's called that. I was thinking because it's a path to the citadel that bypasses "being judged", and thus is the only road sinners can take (unless they can body L.Judge), but I figure there might be more to it.
>>540118435That's pretty much it anon
I dunno if I got used to the pain or I got better, but bosses are easier now. They no longer take 4+ hours of re-attempts per boss. I really hope it won't harder again...
I got three hearts, beating Coral Tower at this point is just for a Memento, right?I still want to do it, just not sure how much more patience I have for itIt's a shame the only fun fight was Karmelita
Is Grand Bellway the best place to grind for rosaries in act 2?
>>540119407go between the first shrine bench and the memorium bench. those 5 guards give 160 per run, more with the grindle charm
>>540118767I wonder if Phantom ever notices some "sinners" passing by and takes pity on them with a blind eye.Slightly unrelated, I just found out the Mist is due to Phantom's organ playing blowing steam and silk, supposedly. Once she's defeated, the Mist disappears. Never went back to check myself.
>>540119392Coral Tower is easy as fuck.
>>540119407The ones at the left of first shrine gives 55 rosaries per kill if you have the grindle tool, just make sure you don't get hit. You could also safely farm the ones below high halls but that'd take more time.
>>540118435You know how the Underworks makes a point out of working yourself to death to repent for your sins? Working in the shitfarm slums to grow roachcattle seems like it serves a very similar purpose.
>>540037295Why would you explore in a game where the genre is based around having to come back later with upgrades
>>540040415Zoomers going insane over stat upgrades without RGB lights
>speedrun chievocan it be done beating act 2? or is act 3 mandatory?
>>540039975Boomerang spam will save your ass in gauntletsHell I think I did most damage to Last Judge in second phase with boomerangs and traps
>>540120557getting a bad ending counts as clearing the game so yeah
>>540107382>virgin pervert flea who spies on hornet bathing and gets bitchslapped and threatened with deathvs>chad sherma who bathes with hotnet
>>540039975are you missing crafting kits? three of them are in shops and the last is a reward for an easy wish
>>540118435you pretty much hit the nail on the head
VUUS VAA LAA REY YAA
>>540039975tacks + poison = enemies get fucking melted if they stand in place
>>540090952Arigatou.
>>540121918Did you let pilby die, by chance?
>>540075957it's way easier. hollow knight only truly gets challening in the late/end game and that's mostly with optional stuff, notably the pantheons
>>540121180kino, sounds super easy and doable then. gms is ez
>>540122015There weren't there when the creature attacked.
>>540120557For the 5 hour one, I'd assume any ending is enough. For the 30 hour one, you need 100% completion.
Act 3 really feels like the last hurrah. All those mementos, bonus enemy variants, levels that look like cut content and exist outside the normal map...
Are there any shortcuts to Hunter's March, or Deep Docks and The Marrow are the only entrances? It's quite far from the Bellway, I'm tired of going there on foot.
Wanderer or reaper for easy times?
>>540123659Both
>>540123659Beast
>>540123659Do you want to attack fast or do you want to have more range and easier pogoing
>>540124184I'm fine with either, from what I've seen attacks do the same damage no matter the speed? So wanderer is just double damage for free
>>540124184>more rangeReaper's upwards attack suck ass, there's no range to speak of.
>>540123659Wanderer is YDBTG mode
Beast is such a fun crest but it's so ass
>>540124659But the sprint upward slash is turbocool
>Shortcut to Hunter's March completely blocks normal path to Greymoorwhy
>>540123248I can't wait for the meltdown when TC tells use Act 3 was the DLC
>>540125215Yeah, that was kind of a dick move. But it doesn't matter that much.
https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/46?tab=descriptioni'm gonna use this and i dont care if it means i didnt beat the game
>>540125610>using wokemods dot com
Do I go to bilewater via sinners road or memoriumI really fucking hate sinners road
>>540126029through the vault
>oh lmao you thought you were safe after that stressful and challenging platforming or combat section? you thought you could rest and heal? you thought you were getting a checkpoint? SIKE ITS A TRAP LOLOLOLOLO :))))There's no game design reason to do this other than to spite the player for the lols. It's actually disappointing to see TC resort to such lazy tricks in the name of difficulty.
>>540126029memorium's path is putrefied ducts, not bilewater
>>540126528You dash away when you hear a weird sound when you sit. There's a whole second to react
>>540126528It contributes to atmosphere.
>>540124767:happy thinking emoji:
They're gonna take me to a horrible and miserable place that will take hours of pain to get out of aren't they?
>>540127091YeahImside ur mom's bhole
Just beat Raging Conchfly. Is there anything else to get besides the Conchcutter?
>>540126528>There's no game design reason to do this other than to spite the player for the lolsLore. Bilewater hates the citadel. A citadelzen would follow the signs to a bench. Bilewaterzen would swim in bile and find the (safe) hidden bench just for them.
>>540127915Enjoy Act 3
>>540127091They at Greymore already? If so, they're only taking you to a place you been to already.
>>540127989Not really, it was just old.
>>540128005? Still haven't even beaten Bilewater yet.
>>540127091Flea plushies when?
>>540128124>They at Greymore already?They've been there a long time
Well, at least Pinstress and Tormented Trobbio boss fights weren't as depressing as Lost Garmond.
Anyone else notice how similar this game is to Blasphemous?
what should be my score to get the pale oil from the fleas
Are the silk sucking bugs in this room just endless?
>>540129578I broke the big silk thread, what does that do? Does it stop the silk vampires from showing up in the gauntlet?
So let me get this straight: a bee queen named Vespa (wasp) was a mentor and second mother to a half-spider, half-wyrm named Hornet?
>>540129540one of the fleas has a scoreboard next to them, beat the top score of each of them
>>540129929oh i see, thanks
Fuck anyone complaining about Last Judge runback, fuck anyone complaining about Groal runback, the actual worst runback in the game is having to go through half of Lost Verdania
>>540129842yes. you won't see them again anywhere
>>540130254>Lost VerdaniaIf you do the gauntlet you can just silk soar 2 times without fighting anything else
>>540130403>anywhereHoly shit niceThey're so annoying
>>5401302541) Memory Orbs and levers are saved, you don't have to repeat them. Shortcuts stay opened2) Did you get the map?
its turbo gay that leaving the game removes all your wilk when you load the save
>>540130468>>540130521Silk Soar 3 times plus some platforming. And having to play the song for ten seconds every time you re-enter the memory a nd having to lay motionless on the ground for a few seconds before you're allowed to get up. Its not difficult, its just tedious. Also I think I'm just seething a bit since this boss is one of the last things I have left to do in the game before I proceed to the real finale
>>540131419Especially if you have Sylphsong.
just beat trobbio 3rd try, that was fun. why do people hate him?
>>540132249He is a gay insect.
>>540132249I'm not into the flashy types.
>>540132249also>playing dead>doesn't sing for the needolin
>>540132249Kino fight, gay character. In the credits he's named after some Italian faggot with the last name trobbolini or smth
>>540132932Bring back being able to be a thespian without being permanently labeled as gay…
>>540132249Some people are very sensitive to visual overstimulation, not in an epilepsy way but in a WHAT IS HAPPENING AAAAIEEE SAVE ME LORD OF SHADES way, and Trobbio is their kryptonite.
I'm playing this for the first time just wondering is everyone a bug in this game? Is this guy a bug or some other species?
>>540134474Not everyone is a bug, some people are gastropods or fungus. But Zote is a bug.
>>540128508>PinstressWhere does she go after you beat her up?
>>540134474rejected runaway failed vessel
>>540134474SS has birds.
>>540132249Fireworks are annoying to look at
>>540135082Do vessels even talk?
>>540135082He is clearly too normal to be a vessel, even a failed one.Probably someone cosplaying the Hollow Knight (I think there is a statue of him in the game, I don't remember).
>>540135648No which is why he was rejected.
>>540135795I imagined the Pale King throwing Zote right into the Abyss at the first BOBLES he heard
>>540085167Just the one that skips the intro splash screens.
>>540089308>>540115534>yeah bro finding a hidden shortcut after 3 gauntlets is really good game designhang yourselves
It's interesting how people were complaining about Flea Juggle when that one only took me like 4 tries compared to the other ones
>let's give the worst boss fight in the game to a dead cancer jew so nobody would be able to openly criticize it lol
>>540137506>big obvious breakable object is hiddenNo wonder retards like you hate the game.
>>540137883But Seth is one of the best boss fights?
>>540134474I just got the hunters journal. So the reason the bug enemies that look like the friendly villagers attack you is cause they're undead?
>>540138164just plain wrong, he's a mix of okay and awful attacks to end up as an average boss with a sob story so he becomes a good boss by public opinion
>>540135481Kinda, but not really. They just use rag pelts to fly around. They're still very clearly bugs underneath.
>LAST PATCH ADD SILK REGEN TO CHARGED ATTACKS>LAST PATCH NERFED CHARGED ARCHITECT>LAST PATCH NERFED FLINT BLADE CHARGED ATTACKSAnd there is nothing in the patch notes. FUCK YOU FROMSLOP patch noters fuckers. I am ok with any change in the patch, but don't hide it in "and other fixes" you cowards!
>>540138164His attack pattern is pure cancer
>>540138608He had a story? I just enjoyed fighting him.
>>540138293in hollow knight, it's because they're infected, you can see the orange goo, they are undeadin silksong, it's because they're being controlled, you can see the silk, they're maybe undead, it's a weird spectrum, from marionetted corpses to temporarily manipulated
>>540138765the story is that he's the OC of a fan that died with cancer
>>540138765Jew with cancer died, that's the story.
>>540139098>>540139229Oh, I thought it was some story about the character in-game that I missed. I don't care about some fag with cancer.
>>540137883He wasn't that bad, quit whiningYou either dash to the side or jump over his attack and then rinse and repeat for phase 2 you dodge 4 times before attackingIf you're having trouble, you're being too aggressive
>>540138657They nerfed drill charged attack? Those fucking cunts.They need to stop hiding changes and intentionally omitting them from their changelog, fucking scummy devs.
I just got done with 100%, 33hrs with wiki helpWhat did you guys find harder?Act 3 final boss, or the flea minigames?for me its highscoring the flea minigames
>>540138945So you guess noticed how the themes in both HK are mind control? HK1 people fell to the infection/Radiance and attacked others. HK2 people where controlled by the haunting/GMS. There's also the mushroom guy in both games? And all the characters, for the most part, are bugs?Is there possibly an over-arching plot of fungi being having a part in all of this mind control over the bugs throughout the land? Like entomopathogenic fungi to IRL bugs (Cordyceps and Ophiocordyceps unilateralis for example).
>>540139573Oh fuck, it's a 30% nerf putting it close to all the other charged attacks that have fewer hits. Hunter got an unexplained buff over every other crest where the charge attack restores 2 silk, too.
>>540140136>So you guessyou guys*>plot of fungi being havingplot of fungi beings* having
There may have been unlisted cogfly AI nerfs, too. Time to git gud
>>540140645
>>540132249Same. Red and Purple's difficulty got so hyped-up, but I never had much trouble with him. I was stuck for hours with other bosses, but he was pretty easy.
>>540135481They're bird-looking insects and mouse-looking insects ("ears" are actually eyes), and fish-looking insects.
Phantom is so cool, I wish I was as cool as Phantom