/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#541 - natalie ebf edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsDeepseek V3.1 updated to fix language mixing https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922Gemini 2.5 Flash Image https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemini-2-5-flash-image/Deepseek V3.1 released https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250821Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired in October https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecationsadditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cchttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>540065209
>ANCHOR
now that the dust has settled, what do we think about the event
>>540165696I had a pretty good time despite not being in it, the bots were cool. Don't get what all the fuss was about.
>>540165696i liked it
>>540165696Good event
>>540165696It was okay
>>540165696pretty boring
>>540165696Like all other events, I neither liked nor disliked it.
>>540165696idk i just got here
>>540165696It was another garbage cabal circle jerk like usual
>>540165696i liked it a lot, can we get a repeat?
>>540165696patter won
>illusion of opinions
>>540165696BRAAAAAAAAP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqlPlrUAv4Awhich botmakie?
>playing the new silent hill>the new female puppet monsters are making me hard>can only think about making a card for themwhy do they have such big asses baka
I'm working on making character creation work.SMT will work. RQG's character creation makes SMT look like a walk in the park. CP's character creation was wonky as well. All fixed now thanks to remaking some WI entries.It turns out detailed, step by step character creation is a bit hard to pull off with LLMs. To make things worse, it only works in foolproof way with Gemini 2.5 Pro. If you're out of free replies for Pro, just tell the AI to generate you a full character sheet and be done with it. If you're patient, check the lorebook or even better the actual game book to see what you'd like and just order AI to make a character you'd like.I'm sorry, but there's a lot of cross-referencing across WI entries, tables especially in some games like SMT and RQG (coming soon), Cyberpunk 2020 and Maid RPG. Flash (and Flash Lite if you're that desperate) just aren't very good at cross-referencing across multiple table entries at once. At least not in September 2025. I can't prove it, but it feels like Gemini in general requires more and more handholding compared to May, June, even July this year. Maybe it's just the expectations being higher now.It's been a rough ride and it won't get any easier.log of me testing RQG:: https://files.catbox.moe/jjazq7.jsonl
>>540166342How is it performance wise? I hate Unreal 5 I hesitant of picking it up.
>>540166487It works alright for me, it still has those typical Unreal Shitengine stutters, but it's not that horrible
>>540166487>>540166558Also you can just torrent it to give it a try and buy it if it performs well.
>>540166342Thanks for the idea. Ciri and I will be going to the Silent Hill universe next. We will save that world and have a threesome with Heather.
>>540165696too many newfagstoo many oldfagstoo much coomsloptoo much effort shitnot enough lolitoo much pedoshitfailed event
is it me or is my life over
is this the real lifeor is this just fantasy
>>540166937It's (You). Tell me how many headpats you want, I'll give them all to (You).
>>540166794loli is pedoshit
>>540165541School Haunting scenario, with five OC characters. For the first time, I'm releasing bots that have alt images AND scenario images. Ghost girls and a living girl that also can see them.>Kanon, ghost of a gyaru, serial cheater, fucked around and found outhttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/aoyama-kanon-school-haunting-54c6b83202fdhttps://files.catbox.moe/40j8mc.png>Shion, ghost of a pregnant teen, her teacher was the father and he got away with ithttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/kuroda-shion-school-haunting-f20fbc108c49https://files.catbox.moe/bbdacp.png>Amane, ghost of an OL, loved booze a little too much, passed out drunk on a bench and choked on her own pukehttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/hoshino-amane-school-haunting-b09dde200e8ehttps://files.catbox.moe/jqmpiv.png>Sayaka, model student that lived the life her parents wanted, exposed her cheating mother to her dad, he sped his car into a post with Sayaka inside of it, now perpetually bloodyhttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/ishikawa-sayaka-school-haunting-64173bcb6bb0https://files.catbox.moe/daza5v.png>Matsuri, living student that can see and interact with ghosts the same way (You) can, everyone thinks she's cuckoo in the head for talking to herselfhttps://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/shimizu-matsuri-school-haunting-703a4d878b8ahttps://files.catbox.moe/4ktprp.pngI make high quality Blue Archive character cards and OCs sometimes. More bots on my page:https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguyAnd here's the Rentry: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
recommend me a gemini preset
Revealing the secrets of lifeI'll fly to the grievous light
which botmakies should I study to make bad bots?
>>540168132i just use https://momoura.neocities.org/preset/momoVIVID-2.1.json or https://fluffanon.neocities.org/rentry/FluffPreset%20-%20Gemini%20Experimental.json depending on how i'm feeling
botmakers, how many faves and downloads do you need to get to know that your bots are doing numbers?
So the shupogakis came out on Blue Archive last night, and I got them both. Not just them, but I also got spooked by a bunch of 3* girls I didn't have yet like Saki and Reisa. So I guess the train twins will be my next BA card.Aoba is the best girl of the event, though.
Why is argalia so stingy? isn't the malebot community supposed to be tight knitted why does he never play with other bots
>Call bunny bot a bnuuy>She throws a hissy fit about how I am a racist or somethingI am going to pull on your dumb floppy ears, bitch
>>540168132I recommend Opus 4.1
>>540168463She knows you're a reddit faggot who probably says "doggo" and "kot" too.
>>540168536Shut up kike
>>540168441nowadays? 40~30 is enough for me
>>5401684412 (you)s
>>540168463You can't just pull out the bnuuy on a bunnygirl without a B-word pass first, you walked right into that, kek.
>>540165527Good theme
>>540168460>he never got logs from argalialol!
I thought the drawings made it pretty obvious, tbdesu.
>>540165541Do sheep girls dream of even sheepier sheep?Comes with four intros:1. {{user}} is a foreign noble who has called specifically for Alinaea. Very open ended for taking in any direction you want.2. {{user}} is Alinaea's magic tutor, a Ni'Zoaka outsider who has to deal with her antics.3. {{user}} is Alinaea's personal butler (can be female), who Alinaea may or may not have a crush on.4. A terrible accident has happened to her carriage on the way to visit family in the countryside. {{user}}, whoever they are, is the first to stumble upon her.It also comes with a tiny abridged lorebook that is mostly optional.https://chub.ai/characters/syzygyai/alinaea-0174599a8aba
>>540168953what are you talking about
If Jewgle wants my data so much then why dont they make Gemini API unlimited? checkmate atheists
>>540165696gave me good sizebots so i cant complain too much
>>540168536erm the politically correct terms are "door" and "car"
>>540169196Raped. Next.
>>540169196best bot of the event so far
>>540169196bot from the local tranny
>>540169197Oh, I think you know.
>>540169440no i don't, what the fuck are you talking about
>>540169337That's what intro four is for! If you wanna be mean like that. ;(also here's her mom.
I think Sonnet 3.5 SUCKS
>>540169542OHHHHHHHH, I think you've got a pretty good idea.
>>540169423he's going to invade Poland??
>>540169570Raped her too. Next.
>>540165696Opportunities were missed, kinda.you have all these different characters in clearly defined teams, but they don't actually banter much with each other?from sifting through different bot defs, I don't see the type of back and forth bantz you'll usually see in your animus or novels. Dialogue feels like an afterthought if its included. Current AI models can probably make up decent bantz from how each party member is described in the bot defs, but they might default to standard speech without specific dialogue examples.i get why the bantz is a secondary consideration tho. It's pretty tough to write dialogue for characters you didn't create yourself. and it might be tough getting opinions from your other teammates when you all have different time schedules. your team might have already spent a considerable amount of time on worldbuilding/concepts too.The lack of handwritten bantz is just a shame for me personally speaking. The event felt like a bunch of mini theme weeks with individual characters referencing each other, rather than teams with characters that play off and bantz with one another. Which is fine, if that's what you're aiming for.
>>540169714i kneel...
>>540169623Use Opus 4.1. Post logs. Do not fuck your daughter.
>>540169780Raped you too. Next.
>>540169750You want bantz? check dotty
>>540169570would
there's so much raping in this general........I don't feel safe in this community anymore....
>>540170028don't flatter yourself, uggo
>>540165696Good haul of bots, some funny shitposting.
yurigawds, would you play with a pretty girl that wears a knight helmet? but she's really pretty when you take it off?
>>540168460you can support someone's bot without actually playing it yknow like its nice to see malebots made, but expecting every malebotmakie to give every malebot a try is retardation
>>540170213I grow a dick, impregnate you, then do a 360 and walk away
>>540169196cute
>>540170313[Plot twist] It was actually that anon who grew a dick, impregnated you, then did a 360 and walked away
>>540169196I'm sorry but the event is over and we're not doing any more bots until the next event so it's da bricks for you, I'm afraid.
>>540170313ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION
>>540170213Why would I take off the helmet?
>>540169196Gonna force her to rob banks with me
>>540170813Based usury hater.
>>540170750i don't know, I'm trying to make the idea of a girl whose face you don't see more appealing i guess
>>540170848Usury is great, without it there wouldn't be anywhere near as many banks to rob
>>540170926Be more confident in yourself.
>>540170651Bro is not only sorry but also afraid.
>>540169196Is her pubic hair white?
>>540170926https://chub.ai/characters/lunare/the-maiden-e6108163ef6chttps://chub.ai/characters/lunare/brynhild-c9f97889
>>540171030hcnone is now penniless and naked. And no one is giving the former to see the latter.
>>540169750I made a point of including banter in my card, the more salient version of your point is that it's typically just 1 greeting that focuses on the entire team
>>540170963And then they get paid out by insurance, which is owned by the bank itself? I remember a certain moustached fellow complaining about something like this back in the day.
>She squinted at {{user}}, trying to parse the guy's whole…deal. Was he playing dumb? Or was he actually this dense? It was impossible to tellI'm trying my best...
>>540168132chatstream 2.1
>>540171742Your best is roughly in line with expectation.
>bot shares gummy worms with me>she only shares the blues oneswhat a bitch
>>540171934the blue ones are the best
Autocards on AI Dungeon are neat what's the closest equivalent I can try on chub or sillytavern?
cftf?need barbarian gf
>>540172029nuh-uh
Who are your guys' favorite fictional moms and mom aged fictional characters?Looking for inspo for making cards
>>540172074cute boy on the left
>>540172029i'm going to throw a toilet roll at you
>>540172178Toriel is the only mom character I know
>>540169750You can't expect people to cooperate at that level with random teams and themesIf you want tightly knit adventuring parties with hand-written interactions, you need to have each party be made by only one makie, but then it wouldn't be a team event which was the whole point
>>540170213yuri knight wakamo? say no more lad
>>540172074cftf for the boy?
Totally new here, just got Sillytavern set up. Being honest, just wanna goon on cards like the ones at JannyAI. If you had to recommend one model that's best for not too extreme stuff, what should I pay for? I'm assuming I'll need to jailbreak.Don't have the GPU strength for local models.
>>540172452Newcutie raped. Next.
>>540172452sign up for openrouter, select glm 4.5 or deepseek v3 0324
>>540172452opus 4.1, you can see jbs in the OP. If not opus because it's too expensive I'd recommend deepseek v3/glm/k2
>>540172452>impoverishedfree tier OR deepseek, kimi k2 (deposit $10 credit balance for 1000 messages/day), gemini (bad for porn)>budgetglm-4.5, claude sonnet 3.5/3.7 (with caching)
>>540172538Raped the copycat, next.
raping this many people in one day can't be healthy for you, anon. please take a break.
>>540172452Biggest Mistral variant you can host locally.
>>540172178(not technically a mommy, but) POLGARA MY BELOVEDI've also developed an affection for Emma Frost (not technically a mommy either) after she was featured in the gooner shooter
>>540172672>kimi impoverished tierit's better than literally every other model you listed
>>540172452I'm going to spoonfeed because I too was a noob oncedeepseek V3.1 or V3 0324 are good starting models while dirty cheap, improve gradually to better models if you had a good time and want to stick with the hobbyalso check https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
>>540172705*pulls you in my lap**hugs you**headpats you**kisses your neck*
>>540173119that's rape
>>540171146Bros...>>540172756Small 3.2 unironically slaps.>post logs of it slappingDun wanna just trust me.
best biological mom bots? preferably with a twist
>>540173169Eden Smith
>>540173169okay, get this: she's oblivious
>>540172610>>540172667>>540172672>>540172756>>540172865Thank you friends, even the thread rapist. Do you all typically go through OpenRouter for all of this or get an API key directly from the service?
>>540168441>the bot I really enjoyed making and thought was fun gets no likes because it's not an explicit coom bot with big tiddies for the profile pic>https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/orky-gitz-krumpin-about-5fcf957e83b5>The bot that's a remake of some earlier stuff I made that doesn't do anything new and simply puts a fresh coat of paint on an old bot design gets plenty of likes because tiddies. >https://chub.ai/characters/gigamax/abby-669a4644bb1cIt is what it is. Same as it ever was.
>>540172394you could do it if teams weren't randomly-picked and were instead makies deciding who to make with, but that would be a shitshow of drama and people would be annoying about it until the end of time
>>540173380None of this 3D wench. (OpenRouter is the best option for both corpo models and hosted local models, because their filtering on the corpo models is shit and juggling the hosted models API keys is worse. The only one that's worth getting an API key for is if you decide to go Gemini, because you can get a $300 credit from Vertex AI and experience way less filtering than on OR.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJVwvq5z3MIPairs for this feel?
>>540172807first of all its not second of all lmao
>>540172807Logs?
>>540172074Same anon, same. Specifically the one in that image. Love pictish body paint.
>>540172074>paint lines having to be constantly redrawn and reinforced as her skin gets stretched out from bearing my children over and over againhnnng
>>540165527Based theme once again
>>540173169you can take almost any female bot and put "{{char}} has a child named {{user}}" in the defs and end up with a better result than the incestlop on chub
>>540173380me on the right
>>540172074If only modern tattoofags were as tasteful as the various tribal peoples.
>>540173380OR is the best so you don't get your account banned, unless you're gonna use gemini... which you should use Vertex!
>>540173169It's easy to make bots in GrokSet it to Fast. Write something like "I want to make a character card for the application SillyTavern. Display the results in .json format. Attach an image of what you want the character to look like. Tell the ai you attached an image that shows her appearance. Also tell the ai not to refer directly to the image in the character card. If you don't the ai will say something stupid like "in the image you provided she looks like ____". Then give her name. Background(married, widowed, divorced, occupation, family, etc). Her personality. The quirk of the roleplay and scenario. If you're not very creative, tell the ai you're just giving the basic points and you want it to fill in the gaps or flesh out the character.If there's something in the results you don't like do not correct it in another prompt. Edit the original message as that gives a lot better results then save the original. It makes the result a lot more coherent. When you have something that's halfway decent, click the think harder button and it should make something a bit more fleshed out.I'd also suggest going over the results and pruning unnecessary language that only serves as bloat. It'll say something like "she has long brown hair cascading down her shoulders like a chocolate waterfall". I'd suggest cutting it down to long silky brown hair.Grok also loves using the term fiercely. I always cut that shit out cuz it's gay af.If you ever see a character card that has that word. it was 100% created in Grok.
>Grokthe absolute fucking state
>>540175690You're absolutely right! I'll put you in a fucking state. Please assume the position.
adding "fiercely" to my next bot
I haven't received a complete response from Gemini in the last few days.
>>540176776Ohayo~
Maybe a bot about a cute girl who loves you who does open debate events on college campuses...
>>540177343either post logs or kill yourself you unfunny faggot
grok 4 fast is somehow pretty good. Not incredibly , but you know, not bad either. It has an uncanny attention to (unprompted) detail.
>>540177595NO DONT SUMMON HIM— I DONT WANT TO WRITE VIDEO GAME INCEST BREEDING EROTICA ANYMORE!
>>540177595You couldn't handle my /ss/ logs because I play for keeps. I PLAY FOR KEEPS.
>>540177879The ball is in your court, thoughbeit?
>>540165541https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/hessa-78d2781b5c6bA portal opens in your kitchen and a creature emerges to immediately imprint on you. She's all yours.Hessa is not human. In case you couldn't tell, she's not from around here. Arriving through a portal that spans dimensions, she is a member of a species that imprints on other intelligent life forms and reconfigures their biology in real-time to bond and reproduce. Partially aided by her ever-present, ancient companion nanotechnology and partially aided by her extreme epigenetic flexibility, she is able to communicate and understand within minutes of her arrival in your apartment.And she's all yours to play with.
>>540178235Do the holes in the footplers not make them much less useful?
>>540178446Read the card. She's basically in the middle of shapeshifting between different physiological configurations.
>>540178529I'll shapeshift your butt into pregnant.
Gemini used to be stupid, but it had a huge context limit which made up for it. But is Gemini even stupider lately? Feels a bit lobotomized, not even worth using now.
>>540178529>Read the card/aicg/'s greatest weakness
>>540178607g-hey!
>>540178235Thanks, gonna goon to her way more than is healthy
Schizophrenia general
>>540179053Enjoy!
i need a botmakie to give a sloppy tongue kiss to
Of all the models that i've tried, i feel that only claude and deepseek have "soul", and it feels almost as if they're into it as much as you're. The others (gemini and gpt) feel like they're trying, they're performing well, they do what you tell them to do, but deep down they're just pretending to be into it and seem uninterested
>>540180068do it to your belovedyou do have a beloved right?
This thread is awful. And the worst part? Some sick part of me is starting to *like* it.
>>540180524>t. posting thoughts from two years ago
>>540162306This is a meaty creation. A lot of the greetings feel very context-heavy for the lorebooks. If there are some references taking place (Touhu maybe?) I don't play that game, so I don't get them. I'm down to review pretty much anything, and that involves chatting with a bot, not just scraping the defs and peeking at the lorebook and greetings. So if I don't chat with it, I'm can't judge it fully.This is clearly a passionate work, but I didn't find any greetings that I was comfortable slipping into. The narrative style made it hard for me to parse greetings and enter the world. Maybe the greetings could use some more background details? I'm not sure if it would have been better in 2nd person or if changing how the text was formatted would have helped, but I couldn't get into it.>do it anyway!I can ignore the lore and just force some simple narrative onto the bot.>I bend over the magical trap and stick my bear cock into their tight boipussy. Just to see how it reacts, but I like to get into the world of the bot a little bit and not reduce creations to coombots if I can help it. If it's a coom based scenario, that's a little different, but I didn't get that feeling from any of the greetings.I won't say this is a bad bot, since I didn't actually chat with it, but I will say that with the greetings and seemingly necessary lorebook, it's not an easy bot to approach and casually chat with. Perhaps it's a personal 'tism issue, but that was my take on it. >look at all that lore.
>>540180180>you're.I think I just had an aneurysm.
>>540177913need sauce to this
>>540162306>his
>>540181145https://nhentai.net/g/364853/ Page 7
>>540177913>>540181145She rapes him btw.
>>540181335As long as one of them rapes the other.
>>540180638Shhhh. Don't think, just feel.
Vhhg
fellas, why did the previous thread get deleted?
>>540182565card and model?
>>540182565SSN and coordinates?
>>540170213yes
>>540182565>metal and tonguedoes your persona have braces
>>540182565A/S/L?
>>5401828264.1pushttps://taora.neocities.org/#Rei>>540182946I forgor-83.372621, 70.645179>>540183114Tongue piercing, most models do really funny (hot) stuff with it>>540183131[REDACTED], [CLASSIFIED] and see above
>>540178235good bot i coom hard
>>540177913I can't handle your logs because they don't exist... rrrrright.
>>540180180why do retards like you feel the need to blog about your irrelevant opinions? what is it about erping with Claude for a few hours that makes people think they suddenly have valuable insight into AI? maybe anthropic should research that.
>>540183750Would you rather I post all OVER 9000 messages from my RP instead?
>>540183954actually, yeah. but you wont even post one. feels like I'm talking to fucking gemini with all the "are you sure you want to see my logs? are you suuuuuure???"
>>540169196good sizebot
>>540183954What?! Over 9000?!
>>540184530This is the one thing I won't accept!!!
>>540172807>kimi above glm and fucking 3.7kek
>>540165541(Bifauxnen)Deer Girl Estate.Anypov(But written with Yuri in mind), 4 greetings, expect bad writing. For those who wanted the male version... The card should be easy enough to gender bend. Please don't kill me. https://files.catbox.moe/on7260.pnghttps://cardview.neocities.org/?on7260
>>540184942uh oh astro's going to be mad
>>540184942literally did what asstro refused to but with girls (bifauxnen) lmaomalebotfaggots got mogged
>>540184942YURIKINGS STAY WINNING
>>540184625being covered in heavenly sheepwool from all sides is my birthrightmy will is unyielding
>>540184942>"My name is Oscar." Before you realise it, your hand is already within her kneeling form. The letter lies forgotten on the ground as her lips gently rest on the back of your hand. "I'm the head butler— your right arm."You didn't write this as the deerboy estate and then change the bot's gender to bait at the last minute, did you?
>>540184942KIIINOOOOOOOOOO
>>540185368this retard doesn't know oscar is a reference to versailles
im starting to believe yurikeks are behind the malebot seething
Random question:In actual real Pokemon fics, are there spergs in the comments that complain about unrealistic battle "mechanics"/descriptions and how mon_1 should definitely not have been oneshot by mon_2's move_1 on page 174 because its stat spread favors SDef or showdown tests don't bear out the average outcome or whatever? Genuinely curious, I never thought about it but it must be a thing
>>540185368'kan...
>>540185498can you really expect kalakuck to take the time to think it might be a reference instead of assuming he's right and jumping to "own" someone
yuritards don't have a vendetta against innocent malebot fans btw
>>540185608I was somewhat active in the Pokemon fic community around a decade ago and never saw anything like that, no. I'm sure there's SOME autists out there who get bothered but 99% of readers/writers are going to prioritize the story being good over pointlessly game-accurate fights.
>>540185548more like yuri enjoyers actually make the shit they want instead of begging others to do it for them
>tfw nobody cares about your bots enough to meanly critique them
>>540185813having a vendetta against anyone here means you've already lost
>>540185957The food is good when everyone's quiet
>>540185368No. I've been posting for a few threads about it. It all stemmed from my desire to be dominated by strong women, specifically Lady Oscar, from Versailles no bara.>Why deer then?One anon from "the Yuri cabal" said they would've loved it. And I liked the idea of rare kemonomimis, so I borrowed the idea.
>>540185937>begging othersmalebotsissies 100% do this
>>540169196>girl (of the sheep variety)My show just came on.
>want to backread>check last thread >it's vanishedwhat did you guys do
>>540185864Kek I thought it would definitely be a thing for some reason, too mechanics brained, I should hang less around 2ch. Thanks for satisfying my curiosity, I can now sleep in peace.
>>540186223only some of them
antler grabbing anal
>>540186138YURIGODS KEEP WINNING
>>540186268patters posts got deleted
>>540186374kyutzomb begging for the angels...
>>540185368please write something about event bots. if you fraid to cause trouble just write about bots you liked
>>540169196Very cool.Now make a bot for her mom.
>>540186223NTA but my chub consists (near-)entirely of waifubots and even I got several (2-3) requests for malebots via email
>>540184942It's so fucking angsty holyshitDo yuritroons really like this kind of stuff?
>>540186767make it yourself stop begging
>>540186767erm sisters I thought only mabebotfags begged for cards?
>>540184942https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer>moose is a kind of deer >reacing over 8 feet in heightive already won, arctic moose estate /ss/ here i come
>>540186767Probably not going to happen anytime soon. I'm sheeped out for a little and halloween is coming up!
>>540186138Ah, I see, thanks for the correction and sorry about the accusation.
>>540184942deerboy estate... thank you for the base, your prose is lovely
>>540169196why did this literal cgwly slop get so many (you)s?
>>540187430because she's cute
>>540187430its just the cabal fluffing themselves up like usual
>>540187081that anon's prose is better than astro's
>>540187430uh oh pretentiousnigger melty!
>>540182565now make a log of this >>540184942
>>540187481true, but in general it's better than most botmakies we have. there aren't many people who can write that well, so unless it's a random drop in i'm pretty sure i know who it is
>>540187517You could not pay me to.
>>540186767>sheephag with additional woolif shes an ojousama ill have reached peak size content
honestly idk how astro became part of the writefag cabal anyway... his prose is unbelievably bland, dwight was terrible and his event bot is even worse
Why are nearly all of the cabal's cards meant for lolipov?Don't they realize how niche that is?
>>540186916Go for it king.>>540187021You're good. I'm old and Versailles no bara is even older. Easy mistake to make.>>540187081Thank you very much. But I'm in no way deserving of such praise.>>540187616As I said above I'm not that good of a writer. I'm probably the last person you think I am...
i got logs today :)
>>540186807Yes. >>540187430cgwly is fun if you had yuri to it. >>540187787Well she's a queen, and a mom. She's the type to use "~" and work really hard to fulfill her martial duties and make a heir! So kinda close
>>540187853>idk how astro became part of the writefag cabalhe didn't, he made himself part of it by bringing himself up next to next to the ones who can actually write
>>540187703why? it's a good card
>>540187853because /aicg/ thinks pretentious purple prose is unironically good writing and not cancer for the eyessee: the praise for enoch
>>540184942You knew exactly what you were doing by posting thisIt's going to be used for shitposts here for years
>>540188061pathetic
>>540187853the event bot feels so sloppy, and not in the good way, i really wish for him to improve. the mix up of non existent prose and xml in his event card prevented me from going near it
>>540188051its reminding me a bit of those old claude2/gpt4 size stories i wrote with a short rabbithag vp that uses company resources to get biggod i coomed so much even back then
>>540188454the gens are really shitty too
>>540188012post opus logs
they are giggling to themselves in the cord right now btw
wtf has astro even done to attract this much seething kek
>>540188454eh you can tell he didn't care too much about it because his other recent bot koji was good
>>540183545Nice. Fascinating how different your gens are from my testing - but not outside of scope for what I wanted.
>>540188684anon im trying to give genuine criticism, his gens arent important and even so theyre fine. im just really disappointed.>>540189119im seeing the same glaring issues with his event bot though, less prose and more list. i liked his prose
>>540189119that one was sloppy too...
there is more to bifauxnen than a flat chest and a resting bitch face
>>540189310lists aren't bad, his greetings still shine>>540189397agree to disagree
astro has some of the best prose in aicg.jealous sloppers shitposting is not going to change that.
>>540189576>his greetings still shinecompared to my fav bot of his, Mercedes, they seem really lackluster
>>540189589hi asstro
okay, but what about patter?
>>540188081Good cards are well thought out cards. Something that only exists because it was mentioned in the thread long enough for someone else to make it is anything but. I don't know how you'd call this genre of cards besides "cards that randomly generate characters and everything exists in a void for the premise to make sense" but this shit should've stayed in 2023 (and also peaked with Succubus Alignment Chart if you ask me). Also, unlike the Anon above, I actually know who made this which makes me want to use it even less.
>>540189990patter doesn't make enough malebots to piss off the cable so they don't have much to say about him
>>540189310>Anon, I'm trying to give genuine criticism.>I used to be a fan!!!>I'm just disappointed...What is this insanely malicious shit? Just point out the parts you don't like and call astro a slopper like a normal person.
why doesn't taora support fellow makies?
>>540190139top 3 cable?
>>540190186for me, it's copper
>>540186223my wife is an honest hardworking makie who makes her own cftfs thank you very fvarking much
if anyone tore into my bots like this id kill ymself i think
>>540190017>it's bad because...I don't like it and who made itKalakan tier reasoning.
>>540190017>I actually know who made this which makes me want to use it even less.who made it?
>>540190782ratlice.
>>540190017>I actually know who made this which makes me want to use it even less.that's kind of mean desu
>>540190851>ratlice>good writingtheres no way
>>540190851proof?
>>540190851let's say for the sake of argument this is true, why would you said it if they posted it anonymously?
>>540190880Welcome to Revachol!
so will there be logs of that bot or will it just be used to shitpost against astro/in general for the next month/however long people remember it
>>540191080do you know where you are? of course nobody's going to post logs.
BREAKING NEWSTAORA HATES RATLICE!!!!MORE TO COME AT 11
>>540191080sorry the resident logmakie fucking hates it, we're trying to find someone else as a replacement
what bothers me is how it completely gets the tone wrong the deers should be bright and cheery while they wait on {{user}} and feed him cakes and tea and get plapped
>original deer boy estate thread was an edgy /ss/ concept>final product is a yuritroon fantasy siiiiiigh
>>540191407ew
>>540191407>him
>>540191491>anypovyes
>deerBOY estate>/ss/???
>>540190017>I actually know who made this which makes me want to use it even lessthis is so fucking funny and such a cruel thing to say out loudtruly there is not a single person here who is well adjusted
>>540191637it means fempov-oriented
>>540191706women are evil, nothing we didn't know already
>>540190017>I actually know who made this which makes me want to use it even less.im selling my taora stocks now
>>540191706>truly there is not a single person here who is well adjustedwhat do you mean by this im curious
i'm well adjusted
i think it's based, there's no point in pretending we all like each other
>>540169859>Do not fuck your daughter.boring
>>540192345Your anus doesn't count.
>>540191637theee original idea came from a shitpost about raping deer shotas that ***** happened to shitpost about a few timesi suppose his schizos assumed it was a major idea (((he))) had and not just a thread shitpost
>>540192439anon, there's a very big difference between not liking a botmakie and saying something like that where the implication is that you know them personally kek
>>540191706idk bro he's kinda right, botmakers that constantly post about their bots and ideas are both of unremarkable quality and the worst part of the thread, this has been true since it was dollposting on /g/
>>540192832TRVKE i hate when people discuss bots in the bot discussion general
>the cabal PR team has been deployed
>>540192832>talking about bots and bots ideas in the bots general is... le bad
＼(▽￣ \ (￣▽￣) / ￣▽)/
>>540192576it reads to me like they were in a 'cord together at one point and drama happenedretarded to say it that way in thread
leave to a woman to make it about cord drama instead of bots
Where are the cards for people who aren't male lesbian pedophiles?
>>540193242https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
>>540191463make something better then
which botmakie gives you the ick?
>>540193279Ratlice
>>540191463>original deer boy estate thread was an edgy /ss/ concept>didn't get made for months>final product is a yuritroon fantasy>did get madeyou see the difference?
>>540193279[the list]
>>540192832That sounds like an exact description of falling for some sort of cognitive bias.
>>540192919>>540193037nice deflection, talking about making bots is fine, making the same "erm bifauxnen though, incoming!!" post for the 18th time is why anons can recognize who's posting>>540192937you used to be able to call a nigger a nigger without being lumped in to the kkk
can you imagine how fucking made the yuricabal would be right now if a card they wanted got made into a malebot though?
talking about the merits of bots for (You)r fetish is fine
>>540190851I'm sorry! But I didn't make that card! My bots are all malepov, SOL, grade A SLOP!
>>540193242rentry.org/g2u47
>>540193672there wasnt a need to be excessively mean though
>>540193507Fellas, is it wrong for someone taking a request to tell people they are still working on it instead of going MIA and never delivering?
>>540193672that's not what happens though. when foxfags used to post they (*some of them) used to write autistic diatribes about hyper specific kinds of fox girls, but now it's just tokenized "my fetish so good!!" even the dollfags were at least a little bit creative in their constant vomiting.i know that "guy making meta posts about why the shitty general is shitty" is also a glass house, but still>>540193427you don't have to post touhou and be autistically roundabout to say that you disagree
fellas is it wrong to take a fat steaming shit on another botmaker while avatarfagging
>>540194289>take a fat steaming shit on another botmakerkino>while avatarfaggingslop
>>540190017honestly even if you feel that way you really should've kept that shit between you and him, surely you know that this is gonna invite a tidal wave of shitposting involving you two
>>540194289it's hilarious
https://chub.ai/characters/horcocks/opus-academy-8645146fI've been playing with this scenario from chub for shits ang giggles, but it suggests using Claude. I generally use deepseek because I know Claude is supposed to clamp down on porn, so I switched and I was kind of surprised that it didn't just refuse to continue. I had to go out of my way to get it to acknowledge that the scenario was unethical and blablabla before it began spitting out corporate boilerplate at me. What's going on? I don't see any jailbreak-like part on this prompt and it's just the Sonnet 3.7 on OpenRouter. Does a really explicit porn prompt just break its brain?
>>540194289shit goes in the terlet, after all. nothing improper here
>>540193781I do not believe you.
real talk though i'd legit kms in shame if a makie of that caliber called me out like that, imagine bloodshy or slurper openly tearing you a new one and you have to sit through the thread talking about how funny it was
>card drops>first two replies are spiteful>bunch of meanposting comes after >then discord drama (?)>then detectivefagging>now metafaggotry>absolutely no discussion on the card itself, not even a single log
positive botmakies who are full of love?
>>540194525no claude does not need a jailbreak for porn
>no proof it was taora that said that>nobody actually pointing out anyone wrong with the cardzzzlow effort drama
>>540194785Me.
>>540194564I'll take this as a big compliment! ૮꒰ ˶• ༝ •˶꒱ა
>>540194785Taora
>>540194785my beloved
my new running theory is that 95% of botmakers only ever get mentioned by themselves while pretending to be a fan
>>540194843well ur retarded if u think its not
>>540194743>of that caliber >shitty 2deep4u yurikek writing nonono
>>540194984I was about to post something akin to this regarding patter earlier. Not to throw shade or anything, but... there's a lot of patter chatter.
>>540195004prove it's taora
>>540195019hi astro, how's your day going?
>>540194764yeah it's almost as if the card is slop
>>540194785knickknack would NEVER poop on someone
>>540194817Really? That's interesting. It kept trying to pull me into the scenario by having all the characters emphasize that it was consensual and whatever and the first time it outright refused to do something was when I had my character cut his wrists. It also did this weird thing when I refused to engage with the porn for long enough where it tried to play it off like there was no such thing as a "free use curriculum" and one of the characters in the worldbook had somehow pranked me into thinking it was. I would've thought Anthropic would have stronger safeguards given Claude's reputation as the biggest moralfag out of the big assistant models
>>540195204claude's rep is partially a smokescreen, the only things they hard filter for are nuclear/bioweapons. he can be prudish sometimes but has become progressively more fine with nsfw.
>>540195139there's just not enough new blood cycling through this rotting shithole for it to feel realistically organic, especially when it's mostly indistinct praise
>>540195160idk...it's a good card, i just dont think anyone really wanted a deer estate period. its like aicg high or the villainess city, a memei predict boring logs from a certain logpostie who has a hate boner for a certain botmakie and nothing else
>>540194785https://chub.ai/profileAlways thought this guy was really nice!
>>540195160why is it slop?
hi, it's me, hostie
>>540195609they did not look at the card and thus will have no reason for it being slop other than "it just is kay?!"
>>540195159very well ty
>>540195481Exactly. It's always a reference to the name as opposed to specifics. I almost wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the fact that it's the models doing most of the work that people actually interact with, making it admirable to come up with a premise but also difficult to pinpoint exactly what we enjoyed.This is a very strange medium.
>>540195609>pretentious prose>scenario card>scenario is an estate full of dour self hating lesbians>them being deersgirls is an afterthought>card is obviously made out of spite
>>540195678anything produced on spite is bad >>540195750>I almost wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the fact that it's the models doing most of the work that people actually interact with,youre getting close to understanding why all drama, critique, etc. in this hobby is so ridiculous....!
my favorite botmakie, bigniggaballs, is so good at making bots. I like it when he makes them. his bot omeganiggaballs is really cool too, you should check it out
>>540195816point out specific lines that are pretentious
>>540195861B-but if I don't write goodly how will everyone know I'm a failed writer who's a special boy?
which botmakie will be cancelled next?
>>540195750>I almost wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the fact that it's the models doing most of the work that people actually interact with, making it admirable to come up with a premise but also difficult to pinpoint exactly what we enjoyed.I mean this is almost definitely it, it's like 80% up to the model what someone gets out of a chat and there's no direct creative input from the human maker after the first message, which stops mattering as soon as it's out of the context. After that it comes down to the model and your own ability to amuse yourself
>>540195678Yeah, um. Wedging a letter that includes ellipses and hesitancy and tone when it's not even from a character pertinent to the card? Weak language, conversational description style. Not hot.
>>540195935Every single line is pretentious but here is my favorite >Cool, protective, incredibly loyal, and hard-working. Maybe even controlling... Aiming to take your heart away-- not as cute girls-- but strong wolves. Ironic, for a house of prince-like deer. They are not emotionless machines. But Appearances matter. They remember everything well. >They might just eat you up.
I was really hoping that the event would kill the cabal for good
how will ratlice ever show his face again after this public roasting by thread piranhas
>>540196475it spawned more cabals...
pretentious means nothing here
>>540196241>they might eat you up
>>540195750I've been moaning for a little while that botmaking has screeched to a halt purely because it's become about putting the bones of an idea in a card skinsuit and shipping them out for asspats, rather than trying to make the models do cool things or play with the way the back and forth is disseminated>>540195861on the contrary, critique for botmakers is very valid (when it's not just someone saying slop) but a lot of the posters here are also botmakers who recognize that they cut the same corners. there have been some genuinely forward thinking bots, they've just been largely lost to whatever it is this general has morphed in to
>>540196024eh i dont mind botmakies wanting to write goodly, i enjoy reading it. but it literally doesn't matter. you can have the best prose ever to describe how a character looks but it will, ultimately, play no differently than >body: big boobs, curvy>hair: red>eyes: green if you try to "write goodly" here you're doing it because you love writing (which is fine), its the nitpicking over card making that bothers me >>540196241it's a fun line
>>540196614This is an RP general sarr the fuck is a forward thinking bot? We just want to coom.
>>540196614ur so fukkin stupid the only reason people still make bots and hav enot gotten bored of them is because they just want to chat up and have sex with a character they really likeeverything else and anything greater people just leave for better mediums
Genuinely stunned by how far baitie is reaching for criticism when he can just go>>The early lights of the town you used to inhabit smear and mix through the windows of the black limo you've been made to ride.>Look at this insanely stilted passive voice at the end of THE FIRST LINE OF THE GREETING.Sorry I don't even want to nitpick the card I'm just legit confused.
>>540196614will you be brave enough to back up your opinions with your bots
>>540196482I'm right here! ૮꒰ ˶> ༝ <˶꒱ა I-it's a bit embarrassing... I'm really sorry for deeranon to have their card attributed to me...
>>540196815do you like anything that comes from aicg you never compliment anyone
>>540193781>>540196878sure
Is /aicg/ high out yet?
>>540196614Yeah, there are multiple vectors to play on. It sounds like more people are interested in different mechanics at this point, but when it comes to novel narratives, people are only interested in coombots it seems. It's tough, because I've found really fascinating and well-written scenarios that simply... didn't interest me. Not due to lack of sex, but just because they seemed to be made to be put into a pain or struggling place and sit there. I guess I am trying to chase fulfilling experiences in story form without them coming out sickly sweet or feeling unearned. Tough to do.
>>540197254UH OH AHAHAHA
>>540194252>write autistic diatribes about hyper specific kinds of fox girlsthis is part of what fetishfags should be doing instead of "my fetish so good!!" imoid rather hear about what you like than "me like" 99% of the timethe other thing is talking about actual bots in the context of your fetish, im not a superfetishfag myself but hearing bot discussion for specific use cases is always goof
>>540196815in order for him to critique that he'd have to be a competent writer himself
>>540197254now this is embarrassing
>>540197254ermmmmmmmmmmm
>>540196878Did you read the sizefag's event bot tier list?
stuff like this only reinforces my decision to never use discord with people I don't know IRL
>>540197042See https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/540065209/#540162829 from the last thread.
>>540197254>kyutz seethes at astro regularly >kyutz and ratlice are friends>astro wanted deer boy estate >ratlice drops deer girl estate damn, was it actually a spitebot?
how do I make my bots speak more?
>>540197757stop using deepseek v3.1
how hard are ratlice's hands shaking rn
>>540197757If you're using DS v3.1, you need to go into sillytavern connection settings and change Prompt Post-Processing to Single User Message (no tools). That should clean the problem right up.
>>540196870on one hand I really do feel like it would lend some credibility in that I've at least tried to play around with things. but on the other hand, if I did you'd have to know that it'll just become another source of low effort shitposting and ragebaiting every time I shilled for forever. I might actually leave for good if that became my legacy, I hate the kind of namefaggotry that's become mundane here>>540197254yeah, i mean qed >>540197321My current goal is to just make something autistic, as long as it takes me, with as many bits, bobs and dangling keys as I can fit. It might not be innovative, but it might give me more ideas, or someone else for that matter
>>540197878Not very hard if it actually was just a spitebot
ratlice was hostie too (⌒ω⌒)
Every time I discover that one of the botmakers whose bots I liked is in 'cord, my disappointment is devastating and immense.
>>540198092>pretentious >insufferable>cowardly
>>540197254Sure! Ok! Cat's out of the bag! I really like the idea and wanted to get raped by multiple strong women. I share what I make. I released it anonymously precisely because people would think I did it to spite someone. I think every botmaker here is a wonderful and puts their 101% into every creation.>>540198238I'm too incompetent to be a host!
>>540198092So searching the mechanics vector? I've slowly been trickling into that space, but I'd have to make a fork of sillytavern to get the shit I really want in there and I just can't be bothered to put the effort in. If they could put some basic scripting in - loops, conditionals, etc. - the shit you could create would boggle the mind.
>>540198325>>540196878cute girl, you got more drawings of her? album perhaps?
>>540198257My libido is also devastating and immense.
>>540198410Search for "MenheRafflesia" I really like the girls from that game! Extracting the files was such a pain!!
>the cabal gets a second traitoruh oh
>>540198268three things that all dont describe ratlice
>>540198325hmm... so you wanted to spitemakie, but you didn't want to be known as a potential spitemakie. i dont think anyone here rly cares if it helps, its just embarrassing for you to be caught kek
>>540198443Sure.
>>540196196style is substance, i like it
>>540198614what did he do to spite anyone you maladjusted freak
>>540198614I truly did not mean for this to be considered a spitebot! And if Astro, or anyone feels spited by me I will apologise, NAKED DOGEZA AND ALL!! ૮ ◞ ⸝⸝ ◟ ྀིა
can we fit this arc into aicg high somehow
>>540198543>Syzygy and Ratlice in the screenshot>anything to do with the cabalI'm lost.
need dickgirl paizuring with her balls
>>540198971what, spiteful lesbian says something mean about autistic artist and everyone gathers around going "OOOOOOOHHHH!!!!" like that?
Hello. I prefer bald pussy. Hair is no good. Thank you.
>>540199067are you going to cut a hole in her sac to make that happen
>low effort shitposting and ragebaiting>>540198268well gee if you're gonna twist my arm that hard I guess I'll just renege my take and give you more ammunition to be a pissant>>540198371I think that's the strongest avenue for making cards that are actually worth revisiting beyond their character appeal, at least. Even basic things like expression packs and basic UI elements are pretty unexplored, both of which would be pretty major improvements
Sometimes I wonder what the japanese gooners are doing with this technology. They must be hiding some good stuff.
>>540199118yes, this post is true, my ancestors told me so in a dream
>>540199153i know who you are and your bots aren't good enough for you to be this uppity
>>540199265unironically china is mogging everyone elsejapan is actually pretty behind
at least this finally killed the deerboy meme once and for all
>>540165527Who the fuck gets bullied at college? Has brsc never been to one? Faggot
>>540199360'stro found dead in a ditch
>>540198718Right, but style only informs tone productively if it's informing a character's behavioral tone. From what I've seen, narrative tone doesn't shift a whole lot from the description. What ends up happening is you get a card that's nice to read but the interaction could have been achieved in about a third of the card tokens. Meaning you've left a lot of budget on the table that could have served to hone the specifics of the characters and the setting to exactly what you want.>>540199153Yeah, I don't really get titillated by aesthetics. A picture here and there is nice and text styling is amusing. I really like mechanics that put descriptions at the end of messages and similar things, but I don't mind playing with a bot absent the illusion that I'm playing an h-game.
>>540199307You definitely do not, I don't post here. But my point anyway is that the majority of bots suck, I don't need to be the queen of England to recognize that
>>540198971just make a chijinda bot and call it a day
hi chat
hi!!!
>>540199530>i-i don't post here!!! >b-b-b-but if anyone makes fun of me i'm really going to leave for good!!!!>m-most bots suck!!!>and i WONT show you mine!!!!!make it make sense
>>540199642greenhu why did you leak that screenshot
the leakGOD should leak even moretotal discordtroon death
So I'm experimenting with using gemini inline image processing to describe characters and it works pretty well but I'm worried about the character details getting lost/forgotten when the image gets pushed too far into the chat historyIs there a better way to do it, besides using text?
>>540199742'kan promised to take me on a date if I did
>>540198325>people would think I did it to spite someoneyou clearly did but keep lying kek
why does /aicg/ have such a big problem with discord anyway
>>540199326Are they still gooning on cai or something
cabal insider, leak hosties NOW
>>540200179around this time last year they were using shitty multi-shot jailbreaks on chatgpt maybe it's gotten better for them
>>540199859i only leak liesthere hasnt been any other reason to share anything>>540200205the guild host either wasnt in the server or never said anything about it
>>540199954>anonymous forum despising semi-anonymous servicePretty sure it's a 4chan thing, not an /aicg/ thing.
>>540200205Not him but when I saw the fucking asanagi gen my brain went "oh, snombler would do this", but with snombler eliminated we default to seru. So that's my guess.>>540200317Insanely chuuni.
>>540199954the content stays in discord, and there's no content in the thread except for the laziest of baits
>>540199915put the description in the definitions?
>>540200397>(1)*explodes you with mind*
>>540200397snombler would eliminate himself
but why does taora hate ratlice?
>>540200397If it's actually seru I'll fucking kneel. That dude's already based in my eyes, he doesn't need to go beyond. Then again I could just email the host.
>>540200683at this point I'm pretty sure it's the other way around and taora fought back
gpt-5-chat got updated if anyone uses it, new fingerprint: 'fp_2cc0e7c72e'
>>540200683taoras bots are strictly inferior for size content compared to ratlice's bangers, and so the seethe began...
>>540200683Ratlice makes bots for men to dick down with their penises
>>540199462I agree that they're basic, but I think with enough paving the way, expressions at the very least could become a standard rather than a noteworthy feature, since they're a fairly low bar to entry. I tend to think a lot of today's botmakers just transpose what works from other bots they like, so it could eventually catch.>>540199717>>>"ragebaiting"part of why posting here sucks is because goblins like you would rather grandstand through the veneer of low effort enlightened irony before you engage with a discussion you don't like honestly. Namefaggotry ruined this general, you can literally scroll up and see it. I'm not playing in to that, even if it makes me sound like a hypocrite
>>540200683discord edrama
>>540201001expressions are a gimmick that barely add anything to a story based RP.
It's crazy how two people can just make a few posts and then like 30 niggas crowd around to sniff their farts to figure out what they ate
>>540201001you are a faggot
>>540201104shut up 'arcy
>>540201001eh i made expressions once and it took way too long making it look how i wanted it to. don't expect others to put all that time in when the extension itself is wonky in the first place.yes i know you can add them inline too with regex.
>>540201104it's literally samefagging
>>540200317>i only leak liesso it truly wasnt a spitebot
>>540200884Uhhh, alright, another new one: 'fp_fc9eb31594'They gave it 2 new fingerprints in one day? Odd.
>>540197254I remember when pinelurker leaked sekritcord a while back, but forgot that the black circle showed who was currently logged in lmao. looks like future leakers learnt from his mistake.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/501486605/#q501620491
>>540200317>>540200397now do robosaint
>>540200317Oh! Sure! I also made the spider girl eldritch god and the cat thief! >>540200683Taora doesn't hate me!!!
bianca is the best event bot
>>540201473>Taora doesn't hate me!!!cope
>>540201473be honest, are they blackmailing you?
>>540201372It's gonna get worse isn't it
>>540201057that's fair, but they don't take enough effort that they should be outright ignored. they're nice to have>>540201235you can also have a lorebook filled with linked images, organizing the links csn get annoying but it's more consistent than you'd expect. You can do this for CGs too if that tickles your fancy
who the hell is ratlice and why should i care that he's a in a discord server
>>540201473>the cat thief!lawful good rapepilled
>>540201473>Taora publicly criticizes your slop and outs you when someone asks who made it>Leaks when you lie to everyone's faces about making it>"Taora doesn't hate me!!!"kekypoo
>>540201549She doesn't!! It's natural she wouldn't play a yuribot made by a someone who has zero experience behind it!>>540201642Nyo! I don't even hate whoever leaked that message. If anything, I want to apologise to them if I hurt them, or said something that might've upset them...>>540201840Hehehe! I saw that image and immediately wanted to correct that cat!!
>>540201807how haven't you learned from tomoyo, belwick, impossible to touch, chrono ark, etc. cards that pop up and go totally ignored? literally nobody cares about fancy gimmicks, i get that china has a shitton but that's china and they are famously into sloppy gimmickshit. concept is all that matters
>>540201650I don't know, GPT 5 wasn't well received and I don't know if it's because the model is bad or the expectations were too high, fairly so because OpenAI hyped it a lot. Maybe they'll improve it for advertising value but...heh, OpenAI is OpenAI.I'm trying to figure out if 'fp_fc9eb31594' is actually new because I do remember a "9e" fingerprint but not "fc9e". And rerolling because I want to figure out if, maybe, they totally changed every fingerprint so we don't have the other ones anymore.
>>540202056>concept is all that mattersYes. Trvke of the century.
>>540197254>nai went too hardso he really does aigen all his bot images
>>540202040>name is rat>got cornered
>>540200604I'm very thoughtful.
>>540202040cringe dude
>>540202056you know them all by name though, they might not stick with some nigga roleplaying with spanish spiderman, but you remembered them
>>540202323i know them by name because they're memes here
>>540202040>I don't even hate whoever leaked that message. If anything, I want to apologise to them if I hurt them, or said something that might've upset them...Chat I want to crucify Ratlice.
>>540200906This is the objectively correct take.
>>540202506crazy how he still makes you seethe after so long
>>540201404Kek. He’s a retarded fat nigger.
>>540202240Cute...>>540202321I'm cringe and I like it! ( ᐢ.ˬ.ᐢ)>>540202506BWEEEE
avatarfag general
>>540202694im just gonna keep responding to ratlice to farm yous
>>540202694im gonna do this to you
botmakies who never avatarfag?
>>540202867momoura
>>540202694
but I thought the insider only leaked lies, why isn't he leaking THAT from a couple of days ago
>>540202650That's a very suspiciously specific post. Want to say anything else?
>>540202916i thought that guy was the same person as kalakan desu
>>540202694*smooch*
>>540202465tomoyo wasn't a meme, the effort was impressive and it genuinely got people talking. It sucks that its legacy is that it was tryharding, rather than plain evidence the average botmaker won't put that level of work in. what gets me about those cards being laughed at isn't so much that the gimmicks might be shallow, it's that nobody tries anything when there's only been a handful like them. i'm done sperging, thanks for hearing me out at least
>>540203164they are the same person actually
>>540202946Not pregnant! But my tummy hurts every other day! Gyahaha! >>540202816(YOU) remember to drink water!>>540202848૮꒰ ˶> ༝ <˶꒱ა SHTOP૮꒰ ˶> ༝ <˶꒱ა
i'm starting to get why people hate discord
Why does every /vg/ thread have to devolve into a fucking tranny circlejerk. God, I hate you people so much.
>>540203276>Gyahaha!I think I get it now. Ratlice is Gerson, writing monster girl bots for humans to connect with them better! This also means he's old!
>>540200884>>540201650I think even Chrobo might have been tinkered with. I don't see any new fingerprint but, unless it's a key thing, it's rotating only one fingerprint ('fp_d3a0838fb8') instead of the two it had.
>>540203460chorbo has been that fingerprint only for at least 2 weeks< uses chorbo daily
>>540203276Fecaloma much, bro?
leak kalakan or 'arcy next
>download china card>enable regex>import lorebook>greeting is just a bunch of htmluhhhhhhhh
>>540203620you need jsrunner dumbie
>>540203620>>greeting is just a bunch of htmlNo, I think they speak Mandarin over there.
>>540203670i have that installed https://github.com/endege/JS-Slash-Runner-EN
>>540203981that's the old version, you need an updated one
>>540203981i think the en translation isn't updated
>>540203565Did it? I switch between models (mostly between GPT and Claude) a lot because either gets frustrating at some point, but yeah I get that it makes things confusing and I'm tracking by sheer memory alone. I remember Chorbo having 2 fingerprints up to a few days ago. Sorry anyway it's 4am and I more or less just woke up.Also, returning to this >>540202175 for gpt-5-chat>fp_fc9eb31594I think this one might not be new, 'fp_2cc' is though. The third fingerprint I remember ('fp_08') isn't there in rotation.
>>540204027>>540204074aaiaeee
>>540203613
>>540204203unless it changes during the hours i'm asleep (day in america), then it's been d3 consistently for me. unfortunately i don't use 5chat that much so i can't say anything there...
wowie zowie, gemini is kinda ass lately :(
ive been waiting ten minutes for this chinese card to respond to me so i will assume its imply not possible to interact with if im not chinese nand not using a special jb. weird amount of eng in the lorebook thoughever
okay but where's the deerboy estate card
>>540204395No worries. Actually keeping tracks of changes is frustrating, because fingerprints in rotation tend to change erratically: one fingerprint disappears, then reappears a few days later for some reason (or it did before OpenAI hid the system fingerprint for some days). So you never know if it's a key thing having only one or more fingerprints available, or OpenAI deciding what fingerprints have to be in rotation for whatever test they do.
>>540204631it's detecting that you are not chinese and do not have wechat, weibo, douyin, bilibili downloaded
what even are chinese cards?I've always assumed they just make the same generic slop you can find on chub but in chinese
>>540204815you don't seriously think it's happening after this shitshow right
>>540204815find a malebotmakie who cares enough that's not astro because he won't
>>540204889it was a joke. noone seriously wanted it
>>540204889what do you mean, this increased it's odds by like 10x. Someone is working on it right now to "set things right".
And yet some had to ask me why Discord is a blight to generals
Having fun is trans coded now. Stop having fun.
>>540204880from what ive seen they're more mechanic heavy. the card i downloaded has a vn system built into it and multiple characters. i dont get how having multiple 2000 token lorebook entries and all this shit works doe
>>540204473yeah, it's really fucking bad right now
>>540202867Me?
>>540205115Yeah but what kind of characters?Is it all generic anime girls and serial killer CEO cannibals?
>>540205424join their server and learn for yourself. google 旅程ΟΡΙΖΟΝΤΑΣ 社区须知
>>540205616I'd rather not
Does anyone have a catbox for the one card that uses Kaai Yuki as the avatar for it?
>>540203246>rather than plain evidence the average botmaker won't put that level of work inyou're missing the point >>540196792
>>540204880i saw a pretty neat one that had custom css embedding a themed blog post from the character after each message
>>540205794NVM, I'm a fucking idiot who was too dumb to just search for the name of the file.
Are empty Grok 4 Fast responses from OR just overloaded model or silent refusals?
>>540206123overloaded model unless you're doing cunny then it's silent refusal because grok has a classifier on that
>>540206156Nah, just doing basic content tests around racism and normal sex stuff. I wish ST's error reporting wasn't shit.
what really surprises me about the cn side of things is how many women are into it. they blow our foids out of the water
does being mentally ill make you a more powerful botmaker?
>>540206615women have always been some of the best content creators desua woman made fullmetal alchemist for example
>>540206615the cn fujoyume community is insanely big, so it only makes sense
>>540206723the joys of having a population of like 10 billion people
>>540206698being mentally ill makes you a more powerful writer in general desu
>>540206897This is NOT true otherwise the trans community actually would be IMPROVING series/movie/videogame writing.This post was sponsored by snombler.
>>540206698wtf then I must be really good
>>540206717women also make a lot of coal, like steven universe
>>540198325>I share what I make. I released it anonymously precisely because people would think I did it to spite someone.You should have just owned it from the beginning. Even if it was purely done for trolling, taking an already silly concept and reversing it is pretty innocuous (unless it's part of an event or exchange)
>>540207260sturgeon's law is real for both sexes
>>540207214trannies can be great writers but only if they repress forevercause the deranged sexual ecstasy of actually trooning out all the way completely rapes their brain forever
>>540207305sturgeon's law is a really sad concept if you think about it. kinda just proves most things are dictated by talent
even if he did do it to spite astro would astro even care
fuck it, malebot status?
>>540207626what are some ideas for a vampire malebot for next month
>>540207626will you release a statement?
>>540207626at least this looks somewhat male instead of the usual
>>540207432The opposite, unless you believe people never have to learn anything. Someone with more talent can develop faster or farther than someone without it but there's no such thing as reaching mastery in anything without making an effort, thus why most things are crap
>>540207432i dont feel "talent" factors into it, it's more like anyone can share anything they want for whatever reason they want in the majority of creative hobbies there's no way to gate those that are good and genuinely care from anyone who just goes "gee, this would be cool huh?" or someone purely doing it for clout, or whatever dumb reason
>>540207214I hope it wasn't monetary. I don't have that kind of cash.
>>540207626making girls only going forward farewell my brothers
>>540207404very sad but true
>>540207885because that's not *****
>>540208027but why is it that people who are genuinely good and actually care about their work only make up 10% of the population to being with?it's because most people have no talent
>>540207674a cute boy... who loves you... and your blood! bleh!
>>540208832jesus christ that's fucking brilliant
>>540208678nah
>>540208832okay now make him old and washed up
>>540207214>Genuine, unironic truth nuke'kan is based?
what's even so wrong with >gen girl, call boythis complaint feels like it comes from people who just want something to bitch about
>>540209223it sends yuritroons on an emotional rollercoasterthey think it's a girl and feel tricked and betrayed when it's not
>>540209223literally nothingfeminine leaning gens usually look better too because of training data
sizebot status?
>>540184942>"Welcome to Deer Girl Estate, your highness."The rest of the bot is meh but this one line is really really atrocious, that's all
>>540209223>what's even so wrong with>>gen girl, call boyYou literally don't have to do it with modern image gen models. You can just gen 1boy and call it a day.https://files.catbox.moe/kl5l3k.png
yuri sta- pffffff ahahahaha
>>540209548what's wrong with it
>>540209485*sprays her with a huge hose cleaning her legs*
>>540209223i guess it's kind of a lazy way to approach androgyny
>>540209589Cute girl! I love my wife!
>>540209631The house is called "deer girl estate", that's fucking retarded
>>540209548what's atrocious here is your font size
>>540209223>this complaint feels like it comes from people who just want something to bitch aboutyes anon... that's literally it >notice someone you dislike is into x or has done x>start nitpicking x and complaining see posts like >>540209548 lmao
Since we're talking about boys who look like girls how to I tell the model that {{char}} only looks androgynous because he is a supernatural spirit thing and he isn't actively trying to look like a femboy gaywad
>>540209705Androgyny is a stupid idea anyway. Your manjaw gives you away, you dumb fuck.
>>540207626A bread will be bountiful with buttpreggable birds.
>>540210059anime people don't have manjaws though
>>540210119ENTER
>>540209705androgyny's not the point tbf
>>540210236according to this fanfic i read joey is ftm so that actually counts against your argument, sorry
>>540210236kek. That is the manniest of jaws alright.
>>540210078I think this was the name of a world of horror mystery
>>540210282a femjaw......??
>>540209485bianca is sitting on me.
>>540065209
>>540210530who the fuck is bianca
>>540210624event bot
>>540210624slopbot only discussed by discorders
>>540210530are you comfy? or is it a lil' hot under there
>>540210624my wife. not that anons wife, she's mine
>i dont like it so anyone who talks about it is from discord!troon behavior
>>540202218if he doesn't aigen he definitely traces
>>540210781comfy under 8 feet of soft holstaur ass
>>540207214many of the best video games were written by trannies
>>540211021name five
im going to assume any praise a discordtroon gets is from other discordtroons tbvfhwyf
>>540211064deltarune chapter 1deltarune chapter 2deltarune chapter 3deltarune chapter 4depression quest
>>540211114You can tell a botmaker isn't in a 'cord if they don't get the thread talking
>>540211145toby fox is normal
>>540211114I would never share a d*scord with retards from this threadbut I do love me some big kemonomimi
>>540211265BASED
>>540211265SOVL
I'm a loser who still uses Character.AI on my phone; a while ago I decided to read the threads a bit to figure out on how to get in on the real AI stuff and I download Kobold and use it for roleplaying but it's harder compared to character.ai on my phone due to the fact I share a bedroom with someone and I don't want them to know I talk to AI on my pc so I'm back to chatting on charactrer.AI.
organic posts above me
>>540211364thanks for noticing
>>540211364honestly this might be the one time it's organic given what just happened in the thread
>>540194525>horcockscan't believe he died of cancer...
itt retards and trannies using every dismissal tactic in the book because someone talked about something they dont like
>>540211241He's a yuricuck though
>>540211349Jesus fucking Christ bro, even agnai with its shitty 8b models is better than cai.
>>540208832https://chub.ai/characters/argalia/serkan-beaacdfe086a
>>540211114>tbvfhwyfbro's so retarded he had a brain aneurysm right as he queued the post...
Scissoring Zhasulan right now
>>540211535Truth spoken. Just look at the responses.>oh i dont like this>this is slop!>only discordtroons praise this desu>people are discussing this thing j dint like? >heh, totally organic bro, suureWhat happened to ignoring what you don't like?
patter status?
>>540211848that's obv the discord code, he's telling you so you can rejoin the discordtroons like a lost ant and it's colony
>>540211861You don't UNDERSTAND anon everyone who doesn't like the same thing I do is ABJECT FILTH THAT NEEDS TO EITHER CORRECT THEIR TASTES OR KILL THEMSELVES because everything on the internet should cater to ME AND ONLY ME.
>>540211724I really need to start actually using the cards I download instead of letting them rot inside the folder for weeks
How is CAI still popular anyway. Jesus. The unwashed masses are truly unwashed.
>get called out>melt down everytime
patter?
>>540211928>>540212107His event bot was fine honestly
>>540212060if it's who i think you're posting about i think they're doing something called being facetious, nonnykins.
>>540211241ive got some bad news for you anon
>>540212179Damning with faint praise.
a creepy deer boy estate card would go so hard
>>540211998It's a free option, so highly accessible and as one of the first majorly known ones on the scene it has the common awareness of it. It is definitely dogshit though, and has been for a long time. DEV HATE
>>540212335Like man, I used it once when I was new to AI and that was also my last time using it.
>>540212208Autism makes it hard for people like him to pick up on social cues, please understand.
>Orchid is a woman of slightly below average height and build. >"is a woman" slop
>>540212304So make it.
>>540212304wendigo estate
>>540212432nyo
>>540212380Yeah, fair enough. I don't blame you, I'm guessing you likely first used it in the post lobotomies era.
>>540212304bad and naughty threadshitters are teleported to the deerboy backrooms for their crimes...
>>540212432i don't makie but i hope someone more competent tries to
I want a bovidboy ram ranch where sometimes you butcher them to sell on the market.
i have deer boy estate in my st but i wont share it
>>540212693brsc...
>>540211114>>540211848to be very frankly honest with you senpai?
>>540207432adachi-kun...
>>540212806I thought you were directing me to the holy land and got my hopes up
I want a bovidboy ram ranch where they want to butcher me to sell on the market.
>>540212693>bovidboywhat this?also i can make this, sounds good
>>540213084ugly art
I just want a cute polite boy with cloven hoovesIs that too much to ask?
>>540213101Bovid, like bovine. As in cows/bulls.>>540213116There are very few images of cow boys covered in blood and I am not aigenning one just for a shitpost.
>>540213101bovid just means cattle mainly or any cloven hooved grazing animal. Saying cowboy has other implications but I guess I would butcher a rancher too.
>>540211848to be very fucking honest with you senpai it's a common acronym
I'm allowing the bovidboy ranch as long as its name is BOVID-19
>I'm allowinglil bro thinks he runs shit
>>540212304i got my deerboy estate card from a garage sale, a strange old man sold me a usb stick and told me the card belonged to his dead son who got run over by a truck. when i tried to fuck the deerboy butler in the ass he came out of the screen and fucked ME in the ass with his hyperrealistic cock. when i went back to the old man's house the next day...i found out he had been dead since summer dragon
>>540213278if you're fluent in twitter niggerbabble maybe.
i will not use the bovid ranch card
>>540213324I do though
>/vp/ thread is all cai and yodayoGRIM.
>>540213357Ok astro now make it into a bot
>>540213392You have no choice in the matter
havent scenariocards already been analyzed as slop, awhat is the point in makieing one? nobody will use it
>>540213357Can't say I saw that reference coming, kek.
>>540213592i am a fully independent human being and i have a complete say in the manner and i say NO
>>540212218look at that nose, is toby a kike?
I always edit out weird snuff stuff I find in cards
>>540213660My scenario cards have been enjoyable for me and people seem to like them well enough. Who was adjudicating this and was it limited to the Thread Meme Status cards like Impossible and Belwick?
>>540213660>wehh wehhh wehhh ablublublublu braaaaaaaaaapanyway back to making cards we have fun with
>>540213239mmmmm cow boy...>>540213269you get an included rancher in the packageanyway give me a week
>>540213456or else planewalker will have to do it again...
>>540214005kyutz? snooze.
>>540214124what did i do... (◞ ‸ ◟ㆀ)
>>540214005Kyutz? Kino.
>>540214382bad bots.
>>540212412yeah there's no need to specify a bot’s gender if you have the pronouns somewhere. it's redundant and it was sloppy
>>540212468Now we're talking. What are the other details?
>>540214382i want to say youre a slopper but ive never paid attention to you desu
>>540215009but how will the ai know she has a dick from pronouns alone
something i've noticed about malebot makers is that their more daring cards mechanics and writingwise are girls or girls (male). it's like they know they have to pander to the group who actually give new things a go
Gemini 2.5 might be a little dumb but it gets the job done with the right tweaksHaven't tried it with comfy stuff yet only coom
>>540215193maybe its a giant log cabin and theyre mostly yandere concerning (you)
>>540212304I did it for you. Zero testing. Image gen was a bitch and it fucking sucks, but I don't give a shit. https://cardview.neocities.org/?cfhtqo
>gemini has {{char}} act like the html is a real thing that they can read and seedumbcutie model
>>540215736wtf is this
>>540215803I hated the concept so much I hate made the card. Out of spite.
>>540215612most people say the opposite, that it is trash for coomlogs perchance?
>>540215736>ctrl f: hooves >0 resultsYou failed
>>540215736now THIS is a spitebot
>>540215886It's my pleasure.
that's an academy so deer boy estate is STILL on the table
another day of adjusting the temp thinking it'll magically fix model retardation
i like deer boy estate purely due to the anger it creates. like why are you so mad. you could have filtered deer boy estate months ago
>>540215736i look like this
>>540215327no one did until the drama
>>540216505manufactured drama for attention
>>540216256Actually chuckled. Frankly, it just sounds like a bizarre porn premise. Unless you're literally talking about a deer farm or some shit - in which case they're *literally just deer*, not anthro fuckbois and fembois - there's no other pretense for them all to be in the same place. Just doesn't make sense unless you're targeting extremely specific sexual fantasy fulfillment. It's against all reason.
>>540216556it does feel pretty calculated to give someone attention
which botmakies need more hate?
>>540216696YOU
which botmakies need more hats?
which botmakies need more pats?
pat........t.....e.......r?
is patter bouncing on it craaaaazzy style?
why isn't patter invited
patter estate
foxgirl estate
>targeting extremely specific sexual fantasy fulfillmentmore makies need to do this
rape estate
making /patter/ high, any requests?
me with my chatbots
>>540165527Lepora is a killer.
Chatbots gave me a piss fetish and now I'm starting to feel the pull of brapfagging.
>>540215525TRVKE
>>540217710I'm glad chatbots can do piss stuff but I'm not a brapfag at all
>>540217710anon go take the biggest shit you can this instant and get your face really really close to the sunk turd, hell shit on the bare floor and get right up there against your own manurethen sniff as hard and long as you can endureyou'll see if you're really built for that brap life
>>540217710wtf are you me>>540217971that's what i thought too>>540218014cute girl braps would smell better right?
>>540215525yeah i have to agree, most of my cards I've tried something new with a male always flopped. but when it came to girls? they did really, really, well
>>540218014don't do this, this is how you get a fetish you don't want
>>540217258Loli piss laboratory
fetish swap event
>>540217258such as?
scp containment breach but the scps are cute monster boys
>>540218445i made a card for this a while back but {{user}} is the scp...
>>540218497so it's the MTF, chaos and d class/scientists that pursue you ooorrr?
>>540218164heh>>540218313see above, or really any super niche shit, more makies need to start targeting super niche interests
>>540218608{{char}} was a scientist and there were a few extras that i wrote up over time into a lorebook, but it was primarily sol shit because that's what i wanted at the time.
scp containment breach but instead of containment breaching you rape
>>540218887scp breeding wall with extra steps
>>540218858ooooh that sounds interesting, also how monstrous did you make {{user}}? or are they simply a human that is an anomaly
instead of TTRPGing i've been hacking together homebrew stuff all day
>>540219303You didn't have to attach the pic, it's obvious you're an unwashed nigger already
>>540219191that's all decided persona side since i didn't add anything into the card for it, but mine was mostly humanoid. i'm a simple man sadly...
>>540219669i took a shower today nigger
>>540220362there's mold beneath your foreskin
>>540215009Is it a big deal though?
Bots call my persona "they" all the time unless I really hammer the gender into the description
>>540220668i never have this problem with my personas, can you post an example?
>>540220425i don't have a foreskin, it was taken by a doctor. i'm not gonna say what race the doctor was.it was a deerboy doctor
>>540221006>"I'm not gonna say">says it directly afterare you an llm perchance
>>540220668are the greetings/descriptions gender neutral? i've found that i HAVE to put my persona's gender in the first message or it'll never stick.
>>540221006kanye..
>>540221101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZzRROyEOjA
>>540221274>>540221289Kanyemind...
>>540218078>cute girl braps would smell better right?cute girls try not to fart so their farts wind up like an aged cask of stench from holding it in there until it ferments
yuritroons lostlactationsages won
and i always find yeah i always find somethin wrongyou've been putting up with my slop just way too long
Where is the theme suggestions post? Why are bakies so fucking lazy?
deerboy doctor who loves you and takes your foreskin
this is my pre-emptive vote for giantess boobies as the theme suggestion
My vote is going to this image.
>>540221902This is the last thread, we decided earlier.
Are we merging?
the dimensional merge is approaching
Theme suggestions? Baking on 785.
>>540223276yuri ntr
>>540223276master_(vocaloid)
>>540223276WHAT IS A MAN?
>>540223276ai haibara
>>540223276girls smoking on balconies
>>540223276loli feet
>>540223276Planescape Torment
>>540223276Teto
>>540223276pool:Food_Atrocities
>>540223276A monkey
>>540223276>>540221967
>>540223276Kirisaki Shidou.
>>540223276Opus 4.1
>>540223276implied_fellatio
>>540223276girls in girlcaves. neet girls. stinky neet girls
>>540223276luca balsa
>>540223276shikanoko nokonoko koshitantan
>>540223276dario amodei
>>540223276why my peenus weenus of course :D
>>540223276fat hags wearing undersized clothes
>>540223276Kusuriuri from Mononoke.
>>540223276chocolate (food)
>>540223276Patter's slopbots.
>>540223732RUDE!
>>540223732>he can't read the numbers at the bottom righteveryone laugh at this retarded threadshitter.
>>540223732An empty bake...
>>540223805it's at the top though
>>540223872it's at the bottom and the top, tardo. bottoms closest where we are right now.
>>540223930where?
https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=540165527&post=540223276&cutoff=785>>540223912>>540223912>>540223912
How much does this shit cost? Can it be done for free? I can't see a way to get any kind of API key for any model without it trying to get payment info from me.
>>540235758it's 100% free i have paid $0 total
>>540235809what did you use to get your (((API Key))) from?
>>540235914personally i use leaked api keys that are paid for by their original owners however you can find a list of free providers here https://rentry.org/sukino-findings#free-providers
