'Gik Handbra Edition>NewsK'un-Lun: Heart of Heaven Map Reveal: https://youtu.be/WkTmJp0dcUAAngela Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/WVc4uTJmKy4Summer Special Event Vol.2: https://x.com/i/status/1967966708741632300/Version 20250918 Patch Notes: https://marvelrivals.com/gameupdate/20250917/41548_1259811.htmlTechnically Speaking Vol. 01: https://youtu.be/kUUK-yXjVYkDev Vision Vol. 09: https://youtu.be/dRUcdKzw6nQSeason 4: The Heart of the Dragon Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/67FVMNGMFXUSeason 4 Battle Pass: Fruit of Immortality Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/D85112C9_O0>SkinsHela's The Grim Lady skin: https://x.com/i/status/1970533620856045829Invisible Woman's Azure Shade and Punisher's Aqua Arsenal skins: https://x.com/i/status/1967604503496052908Angela's SKULD 2099 skin: https://x.com/i/status/1965543238644760705Peni's Wasteland Mech skin: https://x.com/i/status/1962915927751901597Scarlet Witch's Phoenix Chaos skin: https://x.com/i/status/1960379210834247900Iron Man's Extrembiote Armor skin: https://x.com/i/status/1958182245052903907Blade's Polarity Edge skin: https://x.com/i/status/1952761517256184008Magik's Phoenix Demon and Black Panther's Phoenix Panther skins: https://x.com/i/status/1950010981591241126The Fantastic Four's First Steps skins: https://x.com/i/status/1947695635916067128>LinksHero Hot List: marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/Guides & News: marvelrivals.gg/Tracker Resources: rivalstracker.comMobalytics Page: mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivalsFANDOM Wiki: marvelrivals.fandom.com/Checkpoint: >>540101164
Luna and Loki should be nerfed every season till I stop seeing them completely
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Where have all the players gone and where are all the gods?
I used to hate emma but her being good against the overtuned nigger that is bucky this season, I've come to realize that emma is the lesser of the two evilsI'm sorry emmabros. I wish you no more nerfs to your character
>>540222410this but for phoenix, punisher, bucky, and hela.
>>540222410Loki doesn't need a nerf currently, he's ok.
>>540222646Everybody's waiting for Carol
>>540222646Too busy gooning
>>540222749Phoenix def needs a slight nerf but I'm not sure in which area. Bucky is a necessary evil against dive, but they should increase the cooldown on his hand pull. Punny is mostly ok, his damage output is good but his survivability not so much, and they already nerfed his turret. Maybe decrease his magazine size to 35. Hela's ult should have less health than it does.
>>540222646waiting for role queue so the game is actually playable>everyone gets their role>gets to play their characters in said role>can trust your team to play their characters >no more triple healer retardationchinks should also steal OW's ban system because it's better. not like stealing ideas is a nono for them.
>>540223104phoenix needs 250hp and her melee cancel shit removedbucky simply needs his uppercut grounded buff revertedpunisher and hela are fine
>>540222646>Where have all the players goneAll in QP, lil broAnd if you want role queue - feel free to fuck off to trannywatch any time
>>540223142OW2 is unplayable dogvomit of a gameRivals > OW1 >>> OW2
>>540223169Agree with this assessment. Also, dive is still viable, people are just mad it's not an easy team wipe anymore.
>>540223231dont care for OW, i just like their systems.
>>540222646to a game with good matchmaking
>>540223030Helas 30 sec short clip on their YT is at 350k views alreadyProbably gonna be another Steam top seller skin
>>540222936>>larger rangeI think you need to look up Groots ult range before calling anyone a dumbass; dumbass>longer durationYeah lets just pretend I didn't say Groot could team wipe you by himself by the time the ult is done so it doesn't matter. Lets also pretend enemies aren't going to escape Angela's ult before that extended duration ever matters because they can walk out of it, kill the tether, and be immune to it in some cases.>>More anglesThis actually doesn't mean anything
Gooning to Venom
>>540223335Their systems are trash, thats why OW2 flopped. If they werent you'd be playing it yourself.
>>540223030Halloween skins can't come soon enough. The battle pass is underwhelming save for Cap and maybe Mag's skins.
>>540222258How do we fix him?
>>540223553Increase his hitbox, don't change anything else
>>540223335>dont care for OW, i just like their systems.
Game is punishing me with people who somehow don't know how to play the easiest role in the game with the most tools to deal damage and shut down heroes because I dared to go on a 2 day win streak. Genuinely how do you struggle to play dps? I'm doing so much work on tank and you're telling me you still cant somehow secure a kill?
>>540223470OW2 flopped because of the worst launch campaign known to mankindit's actually hilarious how much they fucked that up
Still havent had a bot game after losses in QP the last few daysDunno what changedUsed to be nearly always a bot game after 1 loss
>>540223651Healer is the easiest. DPS is second most difficult after tank.
>>540223727They increased the bot difficulty it harder to tell one certain heroes
>Ranked is dead >QP is all bot matchesIs uninstalling the only option rn?
>>540223995see you tomorrow
>>540223995Unironically, yes There's no saving this season, s4.5 needs to be really good.
>>540223995>>QP is all bot matcheslies.>Is uninstalling the only option rn?Yes, bye. Never come back.
>>540223995>>QP is all bot matchesIt's not though.
>>540223854No, the bot names are always very obvious and I havent see any in matches after a loss.
Every character should have had a classic skin on release
>>540224160Agreed, but they're probably coming at some point. Rival's whole thing visually is that it's a blend of western and eastern styles with it's own look.
>>540223834I can see why you'd think that if you only played cnd and rocket but it is not
>everyone starts out as random off meta picks>end of the match looks like thisWhen the fuck are they gonna nerf any of the retarded characters that have been top tier since day 1? It's been like this since launch and people have been doing it ever since.
>>540224142Welcome to the no bots club, anon. Enjoy your stay, and mind the stench of sweat from the tryhards the game will now pair you against every match.
>>540223727>>540224142Bots have normal names now they don't use the JohnDoe format anymore. They also don't switch heroes anymore either the best way to tell is if the entire team is default skin
>>540224160I want the modular armor. Matter fact, include more 90s skins in general like Rogue's jungle getup.
Something needs to be done about the smurf widow problem
>>540224336Only Adam is somewhat tricky due to having less escape options or a lack of a stun, but then again he has a second life and a resurrection ult for a reason.Front and mid-lining is just inherently more difficult. And with the amount of sustain and survivability that is in the game, DPSing just isn't as simple as you make it out to be.
Truth is OW is in a better state than MR right now.
>>540224368>Strange, MagThor victims.>HelaVenom and Cap victim.>NamorUseless without the Hulk team up.t. lord Namor>RocketLol. Lmao.>CnDKind of hard to deal with but not as annoying as getting frozen/put to sleep ala Luna/Mantis.
>>540224518Dunno, I never felt annoyed going against a good Widow, cause I know it takes skill and the character overall isn't very viable. The real issue is that the Widow on my team is never as good as the enemy.
>hit plat 3>game immediately gives me the hardest match this season that we barely wonyeah im logging off, goodfuckingnight
>>540224795Add Wolverine victims too. And Blade is low key pretty good against tanks as well. Lately I've been melted more by Blade than Wolvie.
>>540225020Those are the most satisfying wins. I had a draw in competitive which has only happened for the 2nd time in my career and it's gotta be the most unsatisfying ending. All that grind for an inconclusive outcome.
>>540225146The silver lining in draws is that it still rewards the match's overall MVP.
You cannot tell me that despite all the 40k players online right now all the retards only end up on my team. I said it that the shitty even teams system they have is shit that punishes you for getting better by giving you more retards to carry after they did that video and everyone kept defending it for some reason. Some even claimed that that's not how it works despite them saying as such. All the shitty winstreak loss streak shit comes from their shitty mmr system saying you need to carry a 3 stack of drooling retards against 3 stack of competent players to make it "even" after you win enough when all the retarded chinks had to do was randomly pull from the rank pool
>>540224368Never. They are deathly scared to make good heroes out of the many niche ones; and they play favorites.Why make a Strategist whose shtick is giving bonus health when we can just powercreep it into Duelists kits for free like retards? Why rework problem characters when you can just ban them every season?Yeah we heard healers are a problem so we kicked Loki in his nuts but buffed Sue at the same time.
>>540224160If the Cap and Thor skins are anything to go by you aren’t getting that Ironman skin. You’re getting whatever was common in the 2000s - 2010s.
>>540223030Big lipsBig earsBig sex
>>540224160Probably coming at some point.>>540226181Cap's skin seems like the classic golden age one to me. Thor's skin is the Coipel look, but that's honestly his best "classic" look anyway. Wouldn't surprise me if they add the sleeveless one eventually.
>>540223469And more
>>540226181This. They’re neglecting all that old stuff.>>540225034Lmao.
>>540224461not happening>>540223995yes>>540223492the Halloween skins sound like rancid ass too
>enemy team is losing>someone on our team DC's/rage quits >for some reason it replaces their slot with a loading circle and we never get a replacement>so we have to play half the match 5v6>enemy team was still losing so they swapped to Luna/rocket/sueI hate this fucking game. I hate that every healer in this game is X tier and if they weren't made like that the devs keep buffing them to be. I hate that the same faggot ass meta characters we've had for almost a year are still the same broken pieces of shit and some of them are even stronger than before. I hate that the devs do retarded shit like nerfing squirrel girl.
Crazy how good Phoenix is allowed to be at all levels, but I have to work my ass off to make Moon Knight in his own niche.
>>540223687How did they fuck it up exactly
>>540227178Remember how the devs took a section of their last dev blog to specifically state they refuse to nerf jean (and torch) for this season.
let her in! game needs more lez girls that lose to the cock imhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ_nvsmUzWs
Am I going crazy or does Sue's ass look smaller in her swimsuit skin? Or does the first steps skin make it bigger?
uninstalled again award
>>540227370I wish I had enough willpower for thatI just keep spinning the slot machineRide never ends for me
>>540227427for me it was eomm fucking me over today after ranking up to gold and almost setting me back to silver 2 with some of the most awful uncarriable one sided games against the same stale meta. When I was done I was thinking back and thinking how even on my winstreaks I wasn't really having that much fun with the game and I was essentially forcing myself to play. Then I realized the loss streaks were making me try to chase the highs of the winstreaks without realizing it and that the game was trapping me in a time consuming addictive cycle, so I just uninstalled its not fun enough at the moment to justify the addiction and with all the space it takes up it prevents me from playing other fun shit I'd actually enjoy.
>>540226339Cap’s skin isn’t golden age. Golden age didn’t have a collar and the belt was usually black. Cap with a collar is a 2023 thing if I’m not mistaken. Basically we don’t get classic skins. We get comic inspired skins.
>>540226612H-hot..
Wolverine needed a ‘classic skin’ before literally anyone else. His default is complete horseshit. I don’t care if it’s his 90s, or 2000s, or his shit coloured one, just give me something.
>>540228167His default is so fucking terrible it almost got me to not try the game because I took one look at it and thought "damn these guys don't give a FUCK about the characters if they're gonna make Wolverine of all people look like that".
>>540228167I used my free skin token on the MCU Wolverine skin just so that when I mouse over him in the hero screen I don’t have to see his retarded defaultI don’t even play wolverine
>>540227817shes the only reason i keep playing this game
Bucky.
>>540229924the only choice of a duelist for a straight man
>>540230001Not while he's taking it from Steve
>>540227304Made for Steve Rogers mating press>>540227370You did the right thing>>540227817If she actually looked like this I would play the game every day
>>540224758possibly true but both are still plagued with other issues
>>540224758Both are in bad states and bad at different things. Like two car crash victims hooked up to IVs with almost every bone in their bodies broken.
>>540229185same, but with psylocke. it's really these characters that keep us ensnared to shitty videogames, huh?
>>540223432>Yeah lets just pretend I didn't say Groot could team wipe you by himselfNice logical fallacy disregarding the duration while painting a magical christmas land scenario. Groots ult does less damage and groot does not have good AoE damage to hit multiple people, he only has his melee which is slow and deals underwhelming 30+30+50 dmg.>Lets also pretend enemies aren't going to escape Angela's ult before that extended duration ever matters because they can walk out of itThis is where I'll stop replying to you because you do not know how it works. No, you cannot walk out of it. Meaning you don't play the game.
>>540223432You disregarded everything setting Angela's ult apart out of pure retardation.>more damage, better angles for better hits and easier as followup to another ult etc, twice the duration? nah fuck that, i'll pretend none of that shit is relevantSupreme levels of mental retardation.
>>540224429>Bots have normal names now they don't use the JohnDoe format anymore. They also don't switch heroes anymoreThey they are functionally identical to the average QP human player lmaogj chinks
>>540224758Nah.Rivals > ow 1 >>> ow2
He was serious btw like what the fuck
>>540231451Supports need a muzzle. Can't count how many times i've seen a Cloak or Rocket try to backseat game.
>>540224429>They also don't switch heroes anymoreThey do, and all at the same time.Biggest difference is they increased the difficulty of them.There are a lot of tells they're bots, like always going in a group and frequently the ones leading the charge into the objective are healers.You can tell it's bots almost instantly.
>>540231451Useless killsShould’ve played the objective
>540231451>feederhe's right and you are a retard for even posting it
If Iron Fist doesn't punch the baby in front of Angela, I'm uninstalling.
>>540231451>triple healing>no good offensive healers>strange and emma on top of this>only duelist is winter soldierThe only good pick on your team was Winter Soldier.
>>540231953That’s going to be DD’s role
>>540231451>no dive or magHow does a cloak and dagger have 10 deaths?
Sex with Peni before she hits 18
season 5 will decide the fate of this game's competitive side. They have to fix ranked or the numbers will drop by another 30-40%
>>540231451>Quick MatchBro who caresAlso you look really confused and unable to find targets for a good portion of round 2 and 3>triple support, triple support everywherejesus fucking christ guang guang
>>540232146>How does a cloak and dagger have 10 deaths?Probably just REEDBVLL walking through uncontested and slapping her silly if I had to guess
>>540231451>>540231894Alright lets see this DrearyRain in action.
>>540232472smartest jeff player
>>540231451All you do is complain nigga
>>540232234Everyone's already in QP thoranked doesnt matter to most of the playerbase, what affects player count most is 1) if the new hero is an A-lister or not2) coom skins
>>540232472who was in the wrong here?
>get bored of ranked>try quickplay>bot matchnty
>>540232472Jeff tried as hard he could here to kidnap the tanks but they just waited to pop their anti cc moves. Nothing he could've done Jeff is just a shit hero. Still, waiting for when the enemy use their escape cooldowns isn't a skill most players have.
>player who got hardfiltered on ultron goes mantispeople really need to stop doing this shit, when you're not cut out for strategist hyrbids you are not cut out !
>>540223553Stop the melee hitbox jank shit and give it a season to see how that shakes things up for him before going any further.
>>540231953That’s baby Jesus buddy he won’t punch Jesus>>540232201I say and do this
Emma needs this
>>540234927Emma needs my below average cock inside her ass
Thank god they nerfed lokihe deserved that shit right after luna, the amount of faggotry in any relevant discussion pertaining to his character being overtuned was so unbelievably gay and poisoned with disengenous opinions that I find it to be ironic now. I hope he gets nerfed again. I already see the usual crybabies in quickplay going dps loki to protest this shit, as if anyone gives a fuck if they throw lol.If anything I think he was the number 1 strategist to get a nerf.
Placement matches will be the make it or break it for S5
I used to not like Luna Snow for being op OC, but now I think she's sexy and want to fuck her like the rest of the women in the cast...the ult nerf to 10s helped
>>540235824They should put her in a movie haha we all know hollyjews are scared of cute Asians
>>540224795>t. lordmeans nothing btw
>>540232234Nothing's gonna change until they remove quickplay penalitiesadd placement matchesand balance the game to not be dogshit.
>>540235203Loki objectively powercliffed all supports. The emma change also made playing other tanks much more varied and fun. Now we only need to kneecap torch, and the game is in a solid spot
>>540236493>Now we only need to kneecap torch, and the game is in a solid spotAnd Phoenix.
>>540236341exactly! I'm lord namor and I get 100+ proficiency points per game without even trying, namor is busted af without team-up and broken with it
>>540236493>>540236545
>>540236493>made playing other tanks much more varied and funYeah, because Mag and Strange never went away and they have always been top picks. Other vanguard were unaffected. In fact the whole Emma thing (which idiots still go on about how OP she is and how she counters 90% of the roster) was overblown retardation.
>>540236380>Nothing's gonna change until they remove quickplay penalitiesNah, get fucked leaver faggot. Should always be penalties for leaving.>add placement matchesAnnounced>and balance the game to not be dogshit.Thats already done, just need to nerf Torch and Phoenix maybe
I want the new Hela skin but I can't aim well anons how do I improve my gameplay with Hela
>>540236721>Nah, get fucked leaver faggot. Should always be penalties for leaving.Then why are people forced into backfill losses and bot matches (which have leaver penalties).
>>540236801Play more with brain engaged nigga
>>540236801always lower sens first for Hela/Phoenix
>>540236943it's weird because I can play Phoenix really well but with Hela all of a sudden I'm throwing the game. is it her projectiles?
>>540236801Stop holding m1 when you play her. Place your crosshair on the target and only then shoot.
>>540232472>cloak switch to dps and randomly dies with their ultgrim
>>540236721>Nah, get fucked leaver faggot. Should always be penalties for leaving.no ones wants to fill for 5 dps playersand honestly? this is why people are AFKING their games now you gay nigger, its never not going to be a problem.>Thats already done,the balance in this game is GABRAGE, you retarded netease shills keep saying "its the best yet" bro its so fucking bad that comp is DEAD lmao
>>540236801>I want the new Hela skin but I can't aim well anons how do I improve my gameplay with HelaUnironically play Ultron. His hitscan laser teaches you good tracking with a good visual aid with the beam. Once you can track enemies well and land most hits with the beam consistently, play Hela and don't just spam fire, try and aim your hits a bit more using the tracking you built up with Ultron.
According to necros, devs dont add more bans because that would make the ban phase longer.Engagement based game dev btw
>yo guys it's the best season frfr>numbers are down>morale is down>no one is watching their esports broadcasts>even tw*tch numbers are in the shitterskeep it up, shills
>>540237420just play vs ai matches then nigger
>>540237093She is hitscan
>rocket's entire gameplay loop consists of holding down right click once you've planted a beacon and using shift on occasion when someone moves towards you>he literally cannot do anything else>this is considered acceptable game design by the chinese and not a fucking embarrassment for some reason
>>540231365not anymore unfortunately, the devs made too many mistakes
>>540237420you're just shit lmao
>>540238116And yet Rocket is popular and widely played and many enjoy the hold M2 playstyleJust like many enjoy Wandas auto-aim M1
>>540238041Lol go fuck yourself you stupid fucking faggot. You guys are pathetic, even when the game is on its fucking knees you still refuse to acknowledge how blatantly shit it is.I wish you and the other fags shitting up the thread would jump off a bridge because you're not be an annoyance and literal reddit incarnate.
>>540237615Just copy overwatch's ban system at this pointAnd even then I'm against more bans, people will just ban even more tanks if more slots are added
>>540238253A million flies can't be wrong huh
>>540238253Do they enjoy it, or is it effective so they just put up with it? You underestimate how many people pick him just to fill because he's braindead.>wandaDidn't ask.
>>540238116Despite what everyone wants to say I think he's cleverly designed, because for some reason every fucking faggot playing strategist makes it their fucking mission to not heal in this game so Rocket is a +1 in the right direction.
>>540238116You forgot being dive-resistant and having super fast wall runs
>>540238253Most of Wanda's damage comes from landing the m2 tho, being a m1 bot is jus throwingRocket's optimal gameplay is just holding m1
ive been playing for 1 hour 30 minutes and have yet to win a single gameevery single matc has been supports throwingdps going negativeits ridiculous
>>540239369Ranked? What rank?
hela's voice is pure sex, hotter than any other woman in the roster
>>540239617Trvth Nuke
How much have they buffed Johnny since release? I thought he was dogshit, now I find him really fun to play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq6rWQHI7UcAlmost 400k views
>>540238116He’s fun when the enemy is dive heavy and you’re constantly cucking them out of kills by evading them and scurrying around walls all while still healing your team.
>>540239443lost 2 in comp went to quickmatchlost 5 in a row nowliterally cannot roll a decent team, in my last match supports refused ot heal and got off of it, this is just like next level retardation. There was even one match where I got multiple enemy teams under emmas ult and despite my entire team being DPS they couldn't kill a single one.
>>540239761she also voices hela in UA3 and earth's mightiest heroes
The hela skin isn’t that sexy. It’s pretty mid. What’s with everyone losing their shit over every damn skin that gets released? I’ve seen way too many people wearing that disgusting phoenix symbiote Bucky skin.
>>540240031>The hela skin isn’t that sexy. It’s pretty mid.Nah. And there's more to sexy than just lots of skin showing>What’s with everyone losing their shit over every damn skin that gets released?Lots of female skins in this game are pretty great.
>>540240031Her previous skin was pure sex but I like this new one because I just like dress clothes. The suit skins like hers and Wolverine, Cap, etc are some of my favorites. The Bucky skin is fucking disgusting though, you're right there.
>BP sweatlord deletes you before your panic button can reach the serverWhat is my course of action?
>>540240031Its a marvel game, the playerbase is full consoomers that will buy any slop thrown their wayI have friends on discord that link every trailer for this game but barely even play it anymore
>>540240031the hela skin doesnt need to be sext because hela is PURE SEX to begin with
>>540240243Peaker advantage all over again
So who is the Faker of Marvel Rivals?
>>540240031they're autistic losersI mean have you not noticed that this community is at such a low point that instead of being excited over the lolcow tier patchnotes and maps they get excited over the fucking costumes no one cares about?
>>540240386>they're autistic losersTurn your monitor on, bro
>>540240364No one cares about the competitive scene for this game for one to exist
>>540238253Most people play in a way that makes them win, even if they don't enjoy it. This is common board and game design knowledge.Most people by default seek ways to win or do something with as little effort as possible, even if it is more boring or costly even outside of games.
>>540240815>Most people play in a way that makes them win, even if they don't enjoy it.Thats 100% not true in Rivals, seeing as how most dont care about ranked at all, play QP, dont flex, dont swap even when losing etc.
>>540240913>seeing as how most dont care about ranked at allWhat I said has nothing to do with ranked.>dont flex, dont swapHas nothing to do with what I said.Additionally in games like these ignorance and blaming others runs rampant. Even in this very thread you will have tons of people picking heroes they think they are best at and can carry with, while blaming their team for being 'too heavy to carry'. Like healers not healing them or something.There are many many studies and factual evidence to back this up in behavioral psychology and cognitive science, but if you want to be spoonfed with a game related example, see timecodehttps://youtu.be/QHHg99hwQGY?si=8lihaFLjK1AOCQvJ&t=2307
>>540240815I agree. Its really just this particular community that has a very stubborn sense of pride when it comes to playing the game to win, and I've noticed this become a bigger issue recently than it was early on. It's so jarring too because there's really no excuse for how un-evolved the marvel rivals community is compared to Overwatch or League where with those particular communities over time they adopted certain playstyles and general metas almost as if it became common knowledge and second nature to them. I personally think this weird resistence to playing what works to win goes all the way back to when the devs were openly promoting the idea of playing what you want when in actuality even galacta tells you to choose wisely at character select, implying that you shouldn't INT.
>dead game>dead threadgrim
>trannywatch2 postergrim
>>540243262It's mostly Americans that play the American comic game so therefore the threads most active during those hours, retard.
I wish I was dead
>>540243296>trannywatch doing colab with the herald of eosfunny
>>540239952Quit on 2 or else you gonna brick your account. System will mark you as a shiteater who is ok with forced losetreaks.
>>540243716i just want to play the game and improve
>>540243296>>540243334>>540243595holy cope
I have playing defence because only some heroes are viable on defence while others you have to work really hard and pray for positive match ups for them to work on defence, where as on attack you can play whoever you want and just chill because if you fuck up you just respawn and try again no biggie. This is kinda why I want them to add push from overwatch. It’s unironically the best game mode in the genre. I don’t give a shit about the slight advantage the team that caps first gets.
>>540222646>australian posting later and later to avoid getting called out for being a beer-swilling, spider-fucking, kangaroo rocky
I just want peni in her school uniform.
>>540244084if only she looked like this in the game and not like a fucking tranny
>>540244160Go back to trannywatch 2
>>540244448>Go back to trannywatch 2Based
>>540244084Holy sex
>>540223142So you want locked spidermans on a 2-2-2 setup?or how about ultron and angela ? This isn't a fucking moba retard
>>5402449162-2-2 is statistically the best comp and it should be enforced at least for solo queue. I don't know why you think Spiderman doesn't work in 2-2-2
>>540245419no 3-0-3 is objectively the best comp
Sex with Luna Snow (no I'm not Johnny Storm)
>>540245505>40% WR
>24 hour qm penaltyFUCKTHISGAME
>>540245419>2-2-2 should be enforcedjust play ow2, tranny
Sex with whichever hero is nice to me
>>540245840Dont be a leaver FAGGOT.
>>540245860ow2 doesn't have 2-2-2 retard
Anyone advocating for role queue is a faggot
>>540246019>Anyone advocating for role queue is a faggotthis
Agent Anti-Venom when?>you now remember the abomination that is the current Agent Venom skin
>>540246019t. instalocker dive DPS
>>540246057The devs will add runa flame before any venom offspring
>>540245840Yup tis time to hop on a second account.>>540245915Ni hao, slant-eyed nigger
>Venom>We're a big fat unkillable mobile piece of shit whose entire purpose is to stall the point as much as possible and tickl;e the backline>Awww, how sweet!!!>Cap>I'm a big fat unkillable mible piece of shit whose entire purpose is to stall the point as much as possible and tickle the backline>Uh hello Neteast?!?! We need nerfs pronto!!!
Sex with cosmicly powered humans
we need this skin...
Mantis rapes
>>540246769Can she at least be nice to me while she does it?
>>540238253Most people are zombies and want to zone out. That's why supportsissies cry whenever they get dove because they think the strategist role in a hero shooter is akin to Stardew Valley for some reason.
God bless the retarded dev that thought adding an infinitely 10m/s tank that can fly was okay
>>540248416Well whats the issue with that?Dive is annoying af, especially when your dps isnt helping
>>540248481>Well whats the issue with that?The fact that they pretend strategist isn't the strongest overall role in the game, and gaslit the community for months to think the opposite.There's going to be resistance in a PvP game. Play something like Factorio or whatever if you want zero resistantce.
>>540244916>what about the off rolesthey offer a different take to the usual. ultron has low healing but has a high damage output with little fall off. it's called a trade off. triple healer cancer is meta because you get all the utility with none of the drawbacks.
>>540222646If Cloak and Dagger was nerfed they would all come back
>hop on my alt to practice different characters>dogshit experience because my alt finished higher than my main last seasonqp is shit and ai is too boring, so sad.
>>540248416The healers in this game are either designed as healbots and/or fodder that dies easily.Rocket, C&D, Jeff, Loki, Invis are effectively healbots.Adam and Mantis are frowned upon as "not being real healers" but jsut playing as worse and less fun dps.Ultron is an M1 bot that happens to also place a drone on someone to heal them while they spam M1 99% of the match.Luna is technically the least healbotty healer, but is relegated to it anyway because her healing is so strong so people flip out if you opt for killing over healing.That is the real reason playing strategist sucks in this game.Even MMOs made playing healers more engaging and less healbotty.
>>540249223Your post is retarded whiny bullshit, healers are fun to play and strong. Its my most played role, not because I have to fill, but because strategists > duelistsPlay almost every healer, meanwhile theres only a few duelists I can tolerate or have fun on.Thats why you never have problems having 2 or more healers in every match, despite there being much less strategists than duelists.
>>540249634There's too many strategist players because strategist allows you to play with zero game plan or game sense, purely reactionary to what your team or the enemy team is doing while still contributing value by virtue of enabling more field time for the other players. Strategists often also have easy access to self-healing or movement enabling them to play around their mistakes to a certain extent. That's why strategist is the easiest role and why bad players play it.
>>540249634>Your post is retarded whiny bullshit, healers are fun to play and strong."Strong" is irrelevant since it stems from healbotting to keep allies alive.If you think healbotting as Rocket is "fun" then you've been lobotomized.When healing boils down to healbotting, it is factually shit design. Both for the healers and everyone else, for countless reasons.But I'm clearly speaking to an ignoramus, so why bother waste more time on you.
>accidentally queue for quick play>leave during hero select>15 minute punishment because I forgot to select compcome the fuck on man, I never play QP.
Healbotting = bad/unfun ... because?
>just played two games in a row where the winning team had 3 or more tanksOkay now this might actually be cause for alarm
>Just played a retarded game with 4 healers>The enemies are so devastated that 1 of them just leave the gameThe most toxic cancerous shit ever.
Start thinking about gay sex with Venom
>>540251032>Healbotting = bad/unfun ... because?Do you really need this explained to you? The name alone doesn't give it away? That no one ever speaks of it in a good light didn't give it way?
>>540251520I like healing. Satisfying.
>>540251010qp and comp penalties are separate.
why didn't they give black widow a symbiote skin ?
>>540251637Really? I had no idea lmao.
>>540251520>ult CD>"FEAR MAGNETO"
>>540251568There is nothing interesting about healbotting. It devolves gameplay into one thing, healing, while everyone else actually plays the game. This is frequently made worse because it even pulls back on many core mechanics like headshots, positional damage like flank/back attacks, no combos, no rotations, no nothing.Healbotting is made even worse since if that is the thing healers do, it means the entire game is balanced around it which means everyone else relies on it and damage numbers are extremely high to compensate.This means the instant the healing numbers aren't high enough or the healbotting is slowed or stopped, everything crumbles and makes it impossible for the rest of the players to play as intended. So healbotting design is like a disease that touches everything and becomes the weak link of the design chain.This isn't even touching on how healbotting is monotonous and braindead, which additionally fosters extremely bad play habits if the player ever tries any other non-healbot role since they never actually learn to "play" the game. Like a donkey being lead around on a leash of their own making.The best designed healers in games are always ones which need to balance healing with something else, often both going hand in hand and you cannot just do one thing. i.e. the most common is the yin-yang healing design.Even MOBAs don't dumb down supports to healbotting. Their job often involves going out killing, scouting, map control and much more.Many of MR problems is directly tied into the healbotting present in this game.
Didnt read lol
>>540254924Based
>rank up game>timer suspiciously goes past the estimated time to find a match by a good few minutes>get put in a game with throwers that afk after a minuteThey could give us hard evidence that the matchmaking isn't rigged, and I still wouldn't believe them
>Fear the wrath of the g-ACK!
buff Storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq6rWQHI7Uc400k+ views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjS9S1bnF20
>>540222475Good games and smart players to you, Sai-anon
>>540256554>Confirmed to be renumbered due to low sales before getting anywhere near #50Storm kneels before the one true Marvel woman, Mayday Parker
>>540222475Sai is a virgin, right?
>17 fps on character screen and haven't click on start yetYeah...im not getting past silver 1 this season
>>540257176
>>540258358
>that spadedeadpool/thanos bros...
>lord loki on team in D3>gets 12k less heals than the next healerLMAO
Tine to lord the mag
>>540223030
>>540259073this is the only accessory i would ever use
Genuinely hilarious that the best counter to Storm/Johnny is Iron Man. You'd think it'd be Hela, but no.
>>540258859I last remember Doctor Voodoo being in the below place because of Hulk, how did he end up here or is this not recent?
>>540259879? it is Hela tho
>>540259879It's Ultron.
>>540260008For everything C3 and below, I see Iron man swaps more than Hela. There's just no way competent fliers are allowing themselves to get picked by a Hela easily, Iron Man can just chase and beam down in 1.5s
>>540259991the ones doing the comic are giga retards
nerf phoenix
>>540257176>>540258358>b-but they are not fucking>you can now pay to have the bull kiss and carry your waifu on screen 24/7kekDaggerfags, explain yourselves.
>>540260924Season 4.5
>>540261006I just want Tandy to be happy...
>>540259073Don't know who this character is but I want it for my Mag
>Jeff and Rocket >constantly whiffing their ults>teammate calls them an animal crossing backline FUCKING KEK
>>540261518Mag's daughter
>>540261518thats his (other) daughter
>>540261518i think she used to be wanda's sister? probably wanda's stepsister now in the rivals continuity
>>540261623How can Rockets ult be whiffed?
>>540261839placing it out of LOS/dumping it on their team
>>540261518Mag's REAL daughter
>>540261518As an incest enjoyer I'm buying Quicksilver for his sister
>>540261518>>540261630>>540261667>>540261816Polaris is Magneto's bastard daughter who inherited his power set. Wanda and Pietro have since been retconned into NOT being Mag's actual biological children, they were experiments done by the High Evolutionary who grew them in test tubes and had Mags *think* they were his kids because reasons.For what its worth, Mags himself still considers them to be his kids regardless, and other anon was right in saying Wanda and Polaris have a very sisterly relationship
>>540262327That's not very Cap of you
>>540257176>the polaris plush floating in the middle of Magneto's ringAdorable
>>540262372No they were normal gypsy kids who the HE experimented on, like Spider-Woman. Well their mom was a witch, but otherwise normal.
>>540262372>grew them in test tubes and had Mags *think* they were his kids because reasons.ahhh I think im going to disregard that and pretend I never read it.
>>540257176Could they even pull off a speedster in this game
I'm gonna main Doctor Strange!
>>540262372>>540262998>Wanda and Pietro have since been retconned into NOT being Mag's actual biological children, they were experiments done by the High Evolutionary who grew them in test tubes and had Mags *think* they were his kids because reasons>Quickgypsy accessoryIt's over.
>>540261150Blackedfags won.>>540262327Incestfags won.
>teammate seething all game because I swapped to scarlet to shut down the enemy teams best player (Spider-Man) >end the game with okay elims but definitely not my finest game>toxic guy giga carried with 40 final hits and 71 elims>doesn't understand that I existed just to keep the backline up and force the spider-man to swap to jeffI think he mostly got angry because I told him not to speak to me LMAO
>>540265117You retards know there's a mute button, right?
>>540265061>bring back QS, with the fan favorite X-Men films actor playing him, to himself,>almost immediately establish he's not Pietro at all, just some guy named BohnerBlood must flow for this transgression
>>540257176I love playing Wanda, but Quicksilver design fucking sucks. Why can't he look as cool as the Flash?
>forcing healers off their role as AngelaHave I become what I've hated?
Buttplug Galacta soon
>>540264709What does this faggot even do when his black panther and spiderman mains are banned?
>>540259073>retcon daughterdelete this
>>540266452>Twitch recolor>Not even mid-seasonPLS WATCH OUR SHITTY GAME PL PLAY OUR SHITTY GAME
>>540257176>cloak gets tandy as a purseZESTY
>>540266672every pvp game nowadays have the urge to chase esports. even that other mecha chink game had an invitational before it released. not even a month in and their game was dead kek.
I like how even if you aren't doing much on angela the entire enemy team willl swap and coordinate to deal with you and make your time miserable and all of a sudden everyone remembers they have cc and anti air/dive abilities but if a panther/iron man/torch or spiderman comes out they suddenly become incompetent and unable to deal with anything. You'll never see an invis use push and pull to deal with venom or the bubble to lower iron man or ultron but they'll spam that shit off cool down if there's an angela. Same with thor players who suddenly care about grounding fliers with their e, you wont see them make an attempt to ground iron man though
>>540266452>rocketSigh.. I guess i'll get the spray
>>540266678Buckas need their fashion statements>>540265086Won a bullet in their head maybe
guyswhat ifsquirrel girlbut also thorwith headshots
>>540264272rare based Carol (the good one) poster also true
patch noteshttps://www.marvelrivals.com/gameupdate/20250924/41548_1261216.html
>>540234927Looks way good for Emma>>540235998*scared of cute things period >>540239617Wrong
>>540264496No they couldn’t for reasons already explained previously stop asking>>540261518It’s a character not likely to ever be in the game so a very weird choice for this
>>540266672This game has always had twitch rewards at the start of seasons you retard.
Buff Johnny
>>540246501Damn he’s hot here. No wonder the girlies want him.>>540249223Wrong image/general.
>>540240031>>540240262>>540240386It really is. Absolute tools drooling over it.
>>540269547Hela sex
>>540267062This is why I've stopped playing Angela solo especially in the mornings on US servers, it's so god damn annoying. Thankfully the same people who suddenly get really good at countering Angela seem to get worse at countering Emma so at least I can solo tank with her.
>>540267062Don't fool yourself you're just a huge target easy to hit with an ice ball
>P3 getting fatter>D3 getting fatterWas the rank reset worth it?
>>540266452I don't get this shit. Why the fuck would I EVER want to use Twitch?If I wanted to watch livestreams (which I don't because why would I want to watch 3+ hours of unedited gameplay interrupted by faggy notifications and retards trying to hard to be funny), YouTube's live-streaming is just better at this point.
>>540243262true>>540244084>>540244505absolutely criminal we still haven't gotten her
>>540254924this this this>>540246403hi reed>>540245719hi johnny
>>540270305>tfw haven't gotten past Diamond 1 since launchHOW do so many idiot players get past Plat, for the love of Christ?
>>540257524Isnt Ms Marvel tied with Squirrel Girl by longest lasting solo issue run
>>540269547>luna buffsLMAO
>>540246057Damn. This looks much cooler than the vast majority of skins in the game period. Venom really got screwed over with skins so far honestly.>>540257679Not since meeting Eddie…
>>540265787Because he's bootleg rip off flash lol
>>540269465
>>540270241>waits for the 2 second cool down on sonic speed mode to refresh>zips away before you can do anythingNothing personel.
>>540270645I consistently do it tankmaxxing and with Wolverine T. Console Warrior
>>540270706Don't listen to this retard
>>540262372>>540262998>>540264272>>540265061>least retarded marble/mutant loreI swear this shit gets dumber and dumber
>>540266672>melty
>>540266452Gross. Just give us Galacta sexo already.
>>540232447You just know that’s exactly what happened Kek>>540238260Good post
>>540264496Yes but only as a glass canon support who can move allies out of danger, they need to give support at least one fast character
>>540240815made for weight lifting mating press>>540245887so none of them
>>540246769Save the images you cvck>>540256554Jesus that’s gruesome wtf
>>540271193X-Men is and always has been a goddamn soap opera with coating of cape paint slapped over it. Honestly not sure what you're expecting....
>>540262147Magicucks LOST jeffGODS WON
>>540272132Some good writing/nonretarded storylines would be nice
>>540271640no, they don’t “need” to do that
>>540270704Made for being stretched by Canadian bacon.
>>540272356Can Reed get a summer skin now? It feels wrong he is the only one from the F4 that doesn't have one, Ben even has 2.
>>540272563What does Alpha flight have to do with Doreen
>>540270104>Wrong image/general.Nope. It's relevant because that class was a healer that needed to attack to build healing resources and were rewarded for being actively engaged in combat, killing and finishing off enemies.Their healing involved giving nearby allies chance to heal themselves when attacking, debuff enemies when attacking, debuffing enemies to make them easier to kill, healing allies when they attack and so on.They were aggressive healers that needed to be actively in combat to heal allies, while balancing resources to attack and heal.They were the exact opposite of healbots and well designed healers.The best designed healer classes/heroes in games always heavily incentivize attacking enemies (or at least be active in combat beyond just healing), because it should be everyone's job to kill enemies.
>be me>Girl has crush on me on 6th grade>Reject her>15 years later>end up being neighbors with her on the same building>We become friends again>Play rivals together>Main Reed>she picks sue for the shield team up.>eventually ask her out>She tells me she has moved on and is in a relationship>find out she is fucking the guy I was best friends with on 6th grade>She invites him to play rivals with us>He mains Ben>He mocks me and says>"Dude You should get someone hot so they can main Johnny, you have always been into hot guys heh">Play along>win match>Pizza arrives>Go get if>5 minutes later>Come back with pizza>Girl and Ben main are violently making out in my couch>Watch from afar and remember the time she asked me out on 6th grade>mfw this is the beginning of my villain arc
>>540223142Somehow you did it, role queue fags have annoyed me more than Ai slop niggers at this point
>>540273057tldr
Today I will be instalocking Adam Warlock so my team learns how to use cover
>>540223142The level of delusion and retardation is fucking hilarious. Like holy fuck>can trust your team to play their characters is the funniest shit I have ever seen. You get tards picking roles just to get quicker queues then play those roles completely wrong in whatever way they want. Like someone picking Tank then pick Wrecking Ball so they can DPS, except extremely poorly.Role queue is retarded and shit and you have to be a mongoloid to think otherwise.
>>540273383You're gay and your dad is too
>>540272880No one knows what that is
>>540273548how is this any different from people who just instalock thor since they want to be a fat dpsretards will be retards, role queue or not -- at least with role queue the thor would have a second tank alongside him so the entire team isn't suffering from a potential bad solo tank thor
>>540272661That rocket skin is so fucking ugly lol
>>540273057didn't happen btw
>>540273803 Overwatch refugees dont but who cares about them
>>540274096LOVE MAKING WITH TIPPIE-TOE
>>540273943People have explained many times to you why role queue is shit and retarded. You just plug your ears every time because you're retarded.
THE HAND OF HEVEN IS HERESHOW SOME RESPECT
>>540274435God I need to write some angstslop with this woman
>>540237507ultron is hitscan?
Snuggle & Kissing with CnD uwu. I need Valentine skins for these characters NOW.
>>540275068IT IS 2025 HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW WHAT HITSCAN IS
>>540275068yes and no, his beam is hitscan but it takes a moment to charge up and then fire the full shot. that's what anon meant by visual aid, the charging sequence is a visual aid in learning to track targets and the final shot will be your aiming practice
>>540275431race mixing is wrong
>>540275803Thanks for the explanation instead od sperging out, good to know!
Playing as the thing with Venom is like being a part of a WWE Fatal 4-Way match
>>540231113>No, you cannot walk out of itretard>>540231258>give reasons why none of that matters in comparison>pretend like I didn'tretard
>>540276090>>give reasons why none of that matters in comparisonYes retard. Things like more damage and double duration totally doesn't matter while your tard story of "groot can totally kill everyone solo with his ult" is the cherry on top.But why am I wasting time trying to reason with a retard like you.
>Diamond 2 as Angelafeels good man, we're actually climbing.
>>540276330You didn't even make a point. You just keep sperging about literal facts. Stop being retarded
>>540271640Mantis got her speed nerfedRocket his jetpack nerfedJeff his swimming nerfedThey dont want to make fast strategists because fast = hard to hit for the duelist mains that make up 85% of the community and missing their shots make their fragile egos crumble.
>>540276549and yet they didn't touch Luna's skating
>>540276541>mongoloid ignores literal factsIt's actually impressive the levels of retardation subhumans like you reach. It's a shame you can't be found and euthanized, to improve the quality of earth.Oh well, so long as so shut the fuck up and people don't feed your attentionwhoring you'll kill yourself sooner or later. Hopefully sooner.
>>540257446right back at ya Bluth-anon, unfortunately today's players weren't that smart but it wasn't all bad>>540257679Demon Days didn't really mention or imply anything about that, it's not something I think about lmao
>>540276873Literally proved my point like the retard you are.
>>540276330don't give him replies, he's the resident schizo. ignore him
>>540277047They need to make more emotes people will actually useThe only ones I ever use are the original Jeff and yellow ones
>>540275918you're welcome, yeah his beam is technically always hitscan but because it has a charging phase and a fullly charged shot at the end, you can use that difference as a way to practice tracking and aiming, and the path of the beam will be a visual indication of where your "bullets" are going
>>540277047evil women...She can break me
>>540272346>Some good writing/nonretarded storylines>from MarvelpffftHA!
>>540277047I have to lord her now...
>>540273057>is denied the ivisipussy >becomes a multiversal level threatThere's a metaphor here........
>>540271640White Fox might be that, she has a fox form for mobility
>>540277047>Emojis don't have her long red nailsYou had one fucking job NetEase
>>540274356literally every argument against Role Queue is shitty propaganda propagated by spastics who don't want the consequences of longer queue times because they insist on shitting up games with triple DPS, the only actual argument that is at minimum functional is some healers not working in 2 healer comps which is true but ultimately shouldn't be the case role queue or not every other argument is either just wrong, retarded or both
If anyone responds to this b8 I swear to god
>>540273057>Had duo e-girl that would wear the wedding dress Sue paired with my suit Mr Fantastic>They "quit" the game for overwatch>I'm still playing alone and they are releasing the costume coin with Maker in shopITS TIME
>>540278034You literally proved his point
I like role Q
>>540278034You have proven you don't understand why Role queue doesn't work. The devs already explained in their matchmaking video>Role queue increases queue times because the amount of people queuing for a role will never be balanced>Increased queue times leads to worse matchmaking because the system will loosen SR restrictions (Gold tank player in Plat match)>Matchmaking is still bad but queue times are now 3 times as long>People stop queuing up because they get tired of the long queue times>Matchmaking gets worse
>>540278034t b h there's a big mix of positives and negatives. it's hard to say whether it'd be better off for the game or not. I'm fucking exhausted of solo tanking, triple support, queueing into 5 tank players on my team and no support players, and so on. but new heroes shitting up a role's queue time for a bit, being unable to swap roles on the fly mid-game and so on are tough to lose. personally I would ultimately prefer having role queue but to each their own
Play the other game if you want role queue
>solo queue>go on a winning streak>Next day a massive losing streak>repeattotally normal and organic 50/50 matchmaking
>>540265061They were never his kids A writer got retarded because Mags and Pietro both had white hair That was it
>>540278814Not now we're shitflinging about role que atm
>>540278989oh my mistake. I'll come back later
>>540278034Role queue fixes nothing and adds more problems>enforced lineups, which means 2-2-2 in this case, this is objectively bad>a fixed 2-2-2 lineup is not relevant compared to which heroes are picked. getting angela & cap as vanguards, widow & hawkeye as duelist, ultron & CnD that only plays cloak fits your 2-2-2 criteria but won't improve match quality at all, while a1-3-2 lineup could be much more sensible and good>way longer queue times, which is even worse for ranked and would make it unplayable>no role or hero swapping>players will pick roles for shorter queue times, but ignore the role itself and play however they want>players will leave because of all the problems role queue brings, which doesn't benefit player numbersetc etc etc, this has been gone over to death.With absolutely no benefit at all, beyond naive hopes that "I'm sure it will be better... for no reason at all!". Perpetuated by idiots that don't even understand the actual problems. i.e. you.
>>540275068Hela flight in crow mode should be dynamic instead of linear
have you goys been Angela pilled yet? She is a good character that is also fun to play. She rapes Magneto which is fun.
>>540279317Keep it the fuck down will ya? I need to downplay her the rest of the half season so she gets buffed when daredevil comes out
>>540279261Hela should be removed from the fucking game until they make her fun
>>540279317I rape Angela every single time as chink fist when she tries to do something in the back or frontline.
>>540279696*holds up shield until you get tired*
>>540279612Remove yourself from earth
>>540278813>Play the other game if you want role queuethisjust uninstall, leave the general, never come backits that simple
>>540279912Angela has no answer to IF. He can keep up with her, he outdamages her, he can push her out of her judgement zone or away from allies, he farms bonus off her and ignores any burst or cc from her with DD while gaining 30% dmg resist, he's an erratic target in the air which makes landing attacks against him harder.She is forced to try to disengage or die.
Overwatch is fine with having both open queue and role queue, I don't know why people act like one has to be sacrificed for the other >but it splits the playerbaseso what its already split between people who only want to play Quickplay, Comp, Arcade modes and same for OW but with Stadium, Custom Games and 5v5 thrown in. It literally does not matter
>>540280607>it doesn't matter if you split playerbases moreApart from increasing queue times for everyone while lowering match quality for everyone. You convinced me anon, we totally need role queue.
>>540280402Sorry chuddie but Iron Fist got btfo so hard he swapped to Blade. Your argument is invalid.
I wonder if Daredevil will get buff whenever he hears Adam's ultimate>"Born Again!!!">"forgive me father for I have sinned" *temporary second health bar filled with shield*
>>540280987It could be a team up but devs aren't that creative
I wonder if Daredevil will be fun>clicks on Daredevil during character select>has fun playing Daredevil
>>540280946Not in my games. I have 78% winrate over 30 matches against Angela specifically. Angela on the enemy team makes it a 5v6 while I and healers farm Ult by killing her.
>>540280607ow2 is a much worse game than MR
>click on daredevil>Entire screen looks like picrel
>>540267062The "e" rework is part of the reason I started playing Thor. Been pretty fun grounding flyers and pounding their shit in.
>>540281185>>540281328Bullseye when?
>>540281659>tfw it's Scarlet Witch autoaim but he throws paperclips instead
>>540279696If IF counters a character that character isn't very good
>>540281659>Blue Hawkeye>Moon knight but with regular knivesHe'll only work if he can actually pick up environmental objects and throw them as weapons.
>>540267062I had Invisible women chase me down before she realized she was all alone and I raped her. I bet her team was wondering why their healer was off in la la land playing with Angela instead of healing. Actual deranged behavior I see while playing Angela. And yet my teammates think im not tanking properly when the entire enemy team is constantly out for my ass.
Give Bullseye a teamup with Rocket/Jeff where he picks them up and throws them
>she hulk and Bullseye referencing this specific body swap comic on a videogame never everSad>>540281789>Infinite ammo
>>540281659>Bullseye's passive ability is able to catch regular projectiles>Moon knight and Hakweye are now useless at long range
>>540281212I'm not saying you made that up but can you post proofs. No one actually plays Iron Fist in my matches so I'm genuinely not sure about the matchup.
>>540282495damn more counters for characters that don't matter?
>>540281262Stadium and custom games is more fun than any side content in Rivals, QP is better by virtue of no console shitter crossplay and bots Comp, I mean both are shit but OW is the lesser evil since rank distribution actually makes sense and you dont climb for free with a negative winrate just cause you play longerI would say they are almost the same in terms of quality but Rivals objectively has better monetization and the heroes are way more interesting and the roles are more distinct
>>540282579NTA but its true. Angela does not win a 1v1 against IF.
>>540280946I would not mess with Angelia desuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twf4yB0LFko
>>540282607Nopeow2 is trashthats why it flopped and cant break 40k on steam lul
>>540282785Yeah but beating Iron Fist in a 1v1 isn't the win condition. You can stop him from farming you when he activates DD by blocking until the buff runs out. If he tries to cheaper town hall you can pin him with ult
>>540282579Iron Fist is good against all vanguards. Yat yee does like 190 damage per second against most vanguards.
>>540283206again im not that anon but as far as a 1v1 goes IF wins. I think that was the point he was making. Doesn't mean it's practical info or even meaningful as far as winning the game goes.Also don't waste your ult on IF anon what are you doing lol
the face of marvel rivals!
>>540282959>Her original look only shows up for 2 secondsFucking hate gayman, glad he was accused of being a loser creep got blacklisted for the rest of his life.
>>540224795>t. LordSo you're lying to keep your favorite from being nerfed, got it
>>540283303This isn't really true. Thor and Hulk can wreck him. Hulk being the most hilarious. Emma's not worried about him either but she can be baited pretty hard and lose.
>>540283206If you're diving when IF is around you will either 1v1 or 1v2 or flee. You can't ignore him.
>>540283084Most people dont play on Steam so its whatever
>>540276080Nasty image>>540274435Cool Malenia image>>540274860No, you dont
>>540278371None of that is true
>>540275810obviously >>540276948no shit why would they lol
Training aim in the training ground is so boring I just want to actually hit people with my shots so I dont let people get away with 10 hp
>>540281659>aimbot character whenNever, hopefully>>540283519That isn't jeff
>>540283736>This isn't really true.He shits out damage against vanguards, that is absolutely true.>Thor and Hulk can wreck him.Hulk can run away, Thor will lose against any half decent IF. The moment you use Awakening they will farm BHP and then wreck you.>Emma's not worried about himEmma is bad against heroes that can zone her out when in Diamond Form, after that IF eats her alive.IF is worse against duelists, he's best at vanguards and strategists. The only exception is a Rocket with good aim.
>>540278174Do you still swear to god>>540280987>melee character He probably won’t be
I got to play DPS several times today in plat because tanks and supports already filled role queue fags on suicide watch
>>540284139Do it for a few minutes before matches to warm up leading your shots and stuff. I play melee heroes mostly so before I switch to Hela or Luna I kinda do it to reset my brain. Remember to throw your daggers in one spot then toss your stun in that spot for free damage
>>540283817Same goes for MR but that goes against the chart fags narrative
Why do they have a battlepass that costs 10 bucks premium, contains 10 skins (of which 8 premium), gives 600 gold (400 premium), 600 blue (200 premium) (not including post pass blue), 600 recolor currency (200 premium). But then they add the summer pass for 3 skins (2 premium), 200 recolor and barely anything more for the exact same price
>>540284168>aimbot character when>Never, hopefullyA man can dream
>>540284892Because they want people to invest in the expensive battlepass at season start, then release skins in events which they think will be very sought after and make them limited fomo, like the swimsuits, to make people pony up even more money.
>>540284956Torch deserves this tbf
>>540279257>a fixed 2-2-2 lineup is not relevant compared to which heroes are picked.this is fair enough sure there will be the occasional fucked hero choices but this happens role queue or no, people can still pick hero's that don't work in the lineup i'd rather some more consistency in terms of my lineup instead of the 1/3/2 fuckery, plus i disagree with the examples given, i don't actually mind double Dive Tank, its requires commitment from the team and changing if it fails but this is no different at least an Angela and Captain America has a buddy to be with instead of soloing with it, Widow and Hawkeye its not the best but thats mainly because Widow isn't that great but if she is good then this is fine, the healers as said Ultron is bad mainly because he doesn't function in 2/2/2 which as a said shouldn't be the case anyway, the Cloak is just absolutely made up i mean come the fuck on who the hell plays Cloak and Dagger as only Cloak thats throwing regardless what kinda example is that >your 2-2-2 criteria but won't improve match quality at all,2/2/2 improves match quality massively, its more balanced for the most part, its more fun, team comps are less likely to be fucked up by retarded DPS players forcing switches, the boring sustain hell of triple healer isn't there, hell theres a reason its got the highest winrate out of all the line-ups, even the fucking bots rigidly adhere to 2/2/2 the game is better with it >no role or hero swappingthis argument has always been bad because the shitters barely switch characters let alone roles, sure there's some mythical flex player that actually does this but i've yet to meet one, we have serial onetricks and i'd happily sacrifice the 0.1 percent cases where this happens so i can get a consistent second tank in my games 1/2
>>540272943Oh ok thanks for explaining *pats your bum* :)
>>540284956>Daredevil (2003) synergy is real
>>540284956Reminder this guy went around killing random children when he was in the Avengers
>>540237420>and honestly? this is why people are AFKING their games now you gay nigger, its never not going to be a problemThats what I do when my leave penalty is too high. If I don't want to play a match, guess what? I'm not playing it lmao
>>540285101>2/2/2 improves match quality massively
>>540278989Theres no way people are unironically asking for role queue after what it did to overwatch.
>>540285280His tenure in the Avengers was fun desu. At the very least they should give Clint a Bullseye skin at some point.
>>540285434>Theres no way people are unironically asking for role queue after what it did to overwatch.The irony is that the ones asking for it don't even play the game that has it, Overwatch.
>>540284706Same is happening to me in gold, as fags over here still believe 2-2-2 is the best comp for some reason
>>540285280>bullseye >in the avengerswho’s retarded idea was that lmao
>>5402851012/2>players will pick roles for shorter queue times, but ignore the role itself and play however they wantthis i fixed by forcing them to only select the role they queued for, at least they are learning a character in that role and with some appropriate balance changes it will moderately function give or take a few games i'd rather they be incompetent in a functional lineup than be shit in a shitter lineup>With absolutely no benefit at all,the benefit is that the quality of matches shoots up because team comps aren't ruined by the onetrick shitters quality of life improves for every fucking Vanguard because 7/11 of them NEED a second tank to function in a compfor that alone i'd take Role Queue over the shitter hell we have now >>540278620i'd rather better quality of matches at the cost of longer queue times, if you want the shittery thats fast just fuckin play Quickplay and let Role Queue be a separate queue >>540278649i understand that there are some negatives to role queue but the many things i've seen argued are just wrong or nonsense and when it comes to those pros and consi'd rather have Role Queue because i'm fucking sick of solo tanking, Role Queue is straight up the only solution to that, releasing new Tanks doesn't help and as much as i like Tank buffs that doesn't help either >>540278813but i want to play Marvel Rivals hence why i think MR should get Role Queue because now a hero shooter i like now doesn't make me deal with triple DPS retards who make my games worse
>>540283519>the face of marvel rivals!
>>540284168>>540286145its ok lil guy!
>>540280607yeah i don't really care if quickplay is open queue i'd be cool if its just Comp or something i just want a consistent second tank and i'm content
>>540285816>i'd rather better quality of matches at the cost of longer queue timesYOU ARE NOT LISTENING. YOU ARE NOT LISTENING. YOU ARE NOT LISTENING.the longer the queue, the worse the match quality is. This is a immutable fact. If they had a perfectly balanced match for you then the queue would pop instantly. The reason why it takes 15 minutes to find a match is because it can't find a balanced match. But since you can't have players wait in queue forever the matchmaker has to settle for sub par matches which makes the matchmaking worse overall.
>>540284868where else can you get this game on pc? epic? LOL
Who has the better bussy. Rocket or Jeff?
the mario party game devs already said role queue will never come, give up
>>540286380>where else can you get this game on pc?EGS + a separate NetEase launcher. So total 3 ways on PCbut only Steam really matters (same as for ow2)
>>540285101>>540285816Nice wall of text, too bad you didn't disprove anything while not proving why role queue makes the game better. Instead you made irrational statements like>the benefit is that the quality of matches shoots up because team comps aren't ruined by the onetrick shittersAs if one tricks wouldn't exist in role queue, when that would make one tricking even more common and match quality wouldn't improve in any way. Making blanked statements about match quality improving without any backing is delusional, especially when matchmaking would be worse (read, more imbalanced) and slower.>quality of life improves for every fucking Vanguard because 7/11 of them NEED a second tank to function in a compNope. This is a genuinely stupid and ignorant mindset. Hero picks, not role picks, matter. Plus whatever extra vanguard you'd be getting could very easily not help at all. Thing doesn't benefit from having a Peni with him that just sits off to the side with a nest at a healthpad.You fundamentally do not understand the inherent problems and like a zealot think a """solution""" you're familiar with is your savior. When Overwatch is living proof it solved absolutely nothing while introducing more problems. Role Queue is an extremely dumb idea, in a long line of dumb ideas from the Overwatch team.
>>540286338you have confused not listening with i don't care i don't fucking care if theres a loosening of skill brackets that shit happens anyway, having a consistent 2/2/2 makes match quality better, i'd rather a skill difference in a tolerable lineup than the usual skill difference in an intolerable line-up
>>540270241That's the problem though. People only put out an effort to stop something when its tanks doing but they'll let the other more intrusive cancer stomp all over and make them lose the match. They wont peel a wolverine of their tanks when he kidnaps them but they'll stop an angela from doing the same thing though. Or just look at the replay of your luna getting dove and see how many of them don't even attempt to snowball. Or how nobody looked up to shoot flying targets and they still don't know but they all look up for angela. That's the problem with this playerbase they're too tank focused they'll only pump damage into tanks and they'll only heal tanks and they'll only cc tanks or displace tanks. I wouldn't have a problem with all the attention angela gets if there was a precedence for such competence with everything else in the game but no supports and dps just allow themselves to get raped when its a dps doing the raping
>>540286769>nice wall of text>*wall of text*
>>540286483Johnny Storm
>>540286483Gay-Lord
>>540286937I need to proof read my stuff when I'm upset
>>540286849>more wildly inconsistent player skill doesn't impact match quality because????>but forced 2-2-2 does, when 2-2-2 is by far the most common lineup already????Newflash, you getting healers and vanguards 2 whole ranks below you while the enemy gets some Celestial player Winter Soldier won't improve your match quality.
1-3-2 has to be the most worthless comp I've played with. and I keep fucking getting I hope this game dies.
>>540223169wish granted, uppercut grounded removed and bucky is now a hitscan hero with no damage fall off, projectile size stays the same.
When are we getting the balance patch notes?I wanna shitpost about Winter Soldier getting buffed again
>>540287430Theres nothing wrong with 1-3-2. The problem is when your duelists go "oops all melee + Spiderman" so you have no ability to pressure the enemy. Pick at least 2 ranged dps.
>>540223142naw anything that makes one trickers lives better can't be introduced, otps aren't human and need to be punished
>>540286483>vaporeon or ratGee I wonder. But who has better paws?
>>540286769>As if one tricks wouldn't exist in role queue, when that would make one tricking even more commonat least in that case the onetricks aren't ruining the lineups because they can't flex, i can tolerate onetricks if they don't fuckup the lineup >This is a genuinely stupid and ignorant mindsetif you think "most Tanks need a second Tank" is ignorant you don't play Vanguard, like that shit is an objective fact if you are solo your choices are Magneto, Emma, Strange and Groot any other choices will fuck over your team unless there is an extraordinary skill difference >Penicongrats you singled out literally the only unorthadox Vanguard who doesn't play well with the others, well aside from the fact Peni wants a Main Tank with her since she isn't contributing the frontlintline beyond having 600 HP and a low cooldown stun literally every Tank benefits from a second Tank, 7 of them NEED a second Tank to work, Role Queue by in large makes Tanks games better and at least allows them to have actual pick variety because Netease only made 4 Tanks capable of solo tanking Hero picks matter but in the case of Vanguards Role picks matter a lot because if you don't have a second Tank you can no longer play 7/11Overwatches failings are not just with Role Queue frankly the only complaints against role queue are from DPSshitters who are the reason we even need Role Queue in the first place, Overwatch is a badly managed game that broke a ton of its promises, Role Queue is a scapegoat for people that don't like it >You fundamentally do not understand the inherent problemsmore like most of the problems people bring up are exaggerated nonsense
>>540287430Its the best comp for fillers, which is why i instalock dps first, and then pick either triple support/a second tank/ or a different dps to solve the problem.
>>540238116he punishes incompetent dps who are unable to maintain high damage output, he's completely incapable of sustaining against an actual comp with 2 front to back dps who can hit their head shots on tanks, or the ability to coordinate a burst on the supports like psylocke + cap
>>540287871>outright ignores tons of shit from the post he replied to because it doesn't fit his narrative>expects to be taken seriouslyMaybe try and be less of a close-minded tard if you want people to give a shit about your dumb rants.
>>540287178>is by far the most common lineup alreadywell its a personal problem because despite its supposed commonness i still constantly get triple DPS and lord forbid i go quickplay where second Tanks are rare as all fuckskill discrepancy happens regardless and as said i'd rather a tolerable lineup to go with it
>>540287718I've given up on trying to debate with people when it comes to that. I unironically want Role queue just so queue times go up for duelist players and shitty support mains who stack. Game is bleeding players anyway, might as well go all the way.
>>540236380The balance is fine, honestly. They just need to tone down all the left click healers by 15-20% and start encouraging people to stop standing in the open.Support players are whiny bitches but scissoring should never be an effective deterence to aggressive positioning or smarter play.
>>540272346Gambit had some great solo runs, that's the best I can offer
>>540288094i addressed the points made, don't bother responding if you can't be bothered to type anything other than the (You)
>>540288107>well its a personal problem because despite its supposed commonness i still constantly get triple DPSNo, it's just a bias because you remember it more when it happens because it triggers you irrationally regardless of how the match turns out or even if you win.>skill discrepancy happens regardlessYou keep dismissing the thing that has an astronomically bigger impact on match quality, which makes you a fucking retard.
>>540287718its a functional teamcompbut i'm sick of solo tanking so i despise it and want it stamped out, its also just worse than 2/2/2
>>540249223bro has no idea what he's talking about and is just running his mouth lmao invis loki are not heal bots and what distinguishes a good jeff from a bad one is the plays outside of healbotting your team. the 3 'non healbot' supports ulton/mantis/adam is ironically defining the current meta as comps with them are significantly better than 2-2-2 due to the fact they bring much more to the table than a dps and their damage is comparable
>>540288473Depends on the comp. Tanks still gets filtered by flyers and wolv. At that point, having a tank less might or might not be fruitful
>>540288473Since Angela was released I have been playing more Triple or even Quad vanguard teams.
>>540286849Ok, I'll bite; So you want to take away some player choice from the game, what do you add to it in return?
>>540259879this >>540260321, its definitely not IM. Also the best counter to johnny is another torch, storm doesn't need counters she's dogshit. the other 'semi counter' depending on map is actually hulk but it has to be a low ceiling map. torch has an incredibly unhealthy interaction versus any ground based squishes due to right click -> stomp so you need to either have enough hp for that to not matter or just not be ground based at all
They should put in skill points and talent trees so I can build my character to counter things instead of swapping. Also remove swapping. Also add last hitting and towers.
>>540288353You ignored tons of shit, monkey. You selectively choose to ignore the things you can't counter, while cherrypick the things you can say something stupid about.You doing this is you outright admitting you're a close-minded idiot that isn't here to challenge their ideas. You outright admit at this point that no, role queue has too many problems and won't solve anything.You do not even have the mental awareness to realize>hm, if i ignore things i can't counter, handwave away things and then pull hail mary attempts with fallacies that doesn't mean that my ideas are riddled with holesYou're not here to answer, even to yourself>is role queue good and would it actually improve the gameyou're here to TELL people it does, regardless of reality, what people say and what things people poke hole in your statements with. In other words, you're not here for truth and discussion. You're just another close-minded clown.Someone like you should never ever try to engage in discussion with other people, because you are frankly not mentally qualified for it. Discussion is for challenging your ideas, to see if they hold up. Then reflect and change yourself based on the results so you grow mentally. Whatever cope your mind is doing right now to claim you're not, just further hammers home how unqualified you are for basic discussion.
>>540288974Get back to your containment general
>>540288473>its a functional teamcompI went 3-8 today (Never playing this long again) and most of games we're because of this nigger comp. Too many duelist players in this game, too many people who don't know how to flex and play whats needed for the team. It's just find the scapegoat and bitch because you decided to play Magik against a flying comp, or Blank Panther into Thing and Ultron. I genuinely hate everyone I meet who plays this game. Never in my life, did I wish some of these people to be raped to death by a pack of angry niggers.
>>540284139Buying new skin for mommy Hela...
>>540289297>It's just find the scapegoat and bitch because you decided to play Magik against a flying comp, or Blank Panther into Thing and Ultron.And Role queue solves this because???
>>540288496>ood jeff from a bad one is the plays outside of healbotting your teamThe best thing about current Jeff and the main reason he is picked is because his long range piercing heal. Nothing else. It's like a long range and wider but weaker Sue heal, that is bugged to even pierce walls.
>>540288353>literally says that wildy wider skill gaps in matchmaking has no relevant impact on match quality>uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, i adressed the points made!
>>540289504His self heal and shrinking hitbox helps a lot with his viability. Without that, there’d be no point in playing him instead of CnD
>>540288974I miss Paladins :(
>>540289434I'm not the other anon you may of been speaking to about Role queue, but the only reason I want would want role queue is so I never have to play with or against 1-3-2 or Triple Support again. Cancer comp, unfun shit and it's clearly not doing the game any favors. Player choice is a meme when the most of the cast in this game are Duelist and no one wants to tank or support.
>>540289831Jeff gets to kill people with his ult. No other support except maybe Ultron can get as many kills as Jeff.
Swapping saliva with Rocket
>>540290313Both Luna and Adam are much better at killing. Jeff gets accidental kill contributions from mindlessly spraying his M1 or against bad players with his ult.
>>540290313You can snag kills with CnD ult
>>540289837I did not care for the art style
>>540288821if you are so concerned with player choicesthen fine, Vanguards get the freedom to chose what Tanks they can play instead of being restricted to 4, buff healers to all work in 2/2/2 comps then now Healers have more variety in their choices DPS players already have an abundance of characters to chose, but now you can freely play DPS without fear of fucking up the team comp and if people really fiend for open queue to triple DPS then you can just chose what mode you want.>>540288725since that happens anyway i think the solution is to make Tanks that aren't so filtered by those things, Angela is a start against flyers at least hell i'm waiting for the day Sabertooth is added so i can slam dunk that Canuckcuck into the fucking trash bin
>>540283084>>540284868>>540286601>multiple community polls on different websites suggest that steam comprises 25-30% of the western OW PC playerbase>"there's no way that's true">steam shows you in-game how many players in your lobby are on each platform, usually 0-3 out of 9 are on steam>"sounds like bullshit">pc bang stats show OW bouncing around 6th or 7th most popular game in korea while MR is hovering at #120>"fake numbers">chinese net cafe stats show OW at #13 while MR is somewhere outside the top 50>"also fake numbers even though it's a different country">newzoo, the most popular data analytics company in the gaming industry, has OW as the 14th most popular pc game while MR is 16th, not including china>"everything is fake! marvel rivals is more popular!"Why are you like this?
The game supposedly better game than overwatch will just die if it adds this one quality of life feature ok!!!
>>540290313Yeah that’s good in triple support, he feels the niche well enough, even though there’s a ton of counterplay that beats it, like fade bubbles certain kill ults and just splitting up and hard focus. Still immortal ults are more often more powerful
>2/2/2 is the most common lineup by far>idiot still wants to enforce it despite the long list of ramifications
>>540290723I think the style was fine, they just didn't have any time or money so the execution was cheaply done
what compels overtrannies to come into this general every day instead of just playing their supposedly "good" game
>>540290998Anon, it clearly never occured to you that making a poll on a place like overwatch general, reddit or something will give extremely inaccurate results because the sample pool is>a smaller hardcore group of players that visit specific communities, happen to click or even see said poll, then also vote in said pollThis is a mistake not even a junior analyst would make.My mind always comes back to a clueless restaurant owner on Kitchen Nightmares that was in the red and asked Gordon for help, yet still decided to ask the few guests he got to leave comments in a box, which said the food and atmosphere was good and they didn't want anything changed. Which said owner then used to say that there was nothing wrong with what he was doing. But if he kept trucking along he would be digging himself his own grave.Never use stuff like polls as data, especially when you want to be taken seriously.
>>540287718or when they play hide behind the tank and don't take off angles
On PC steam is the only platform that mattersB.net is about as relevant as EGS
>>540288974I agree with this unironically.
As much as I hate Overmeme (never playing it again) I hope Rivals dies because the devs and community are retarded. Balance changes are a meme, the matchmaking is pure nigger shit and the devs have no idea what they are doing. I know Netease takes awhile to pull the plug, but it's going to be funny as fuck when EoS after all the shit-talking that was done against Overmeme. What will the cope be? Who will take the blame? I can't fucking wait for that day. How many overmeme killers did we have so far? seems like none of these devs know what the fuck they are doing. I'm getting hard as fuck thinking about that EoS announcement, and the amount of copium that I'll see on youtube and all those video essays on how Rivals isn't dying or "Well actually the playerbase isn't all on steam, there's console players too!" Oh, god EOS can't come soon enough
Trying too hard
>>540288974Eeerrrrrrrmmmmm Netease already made a game for people like you, it's called Diablo Immortal. Matter fact, any Diablo-clone should do.
>>540292206Stop excluding them from your games chud
>>540285641Norman Osborn made a faux-Avengers group when he was Iron Man, it was short lived.
>>540290781Saber tooth is a definite never ever lol>>540292541Agreed with all of thatFair point
>>540291054DPSsissies will be the death of this game.Honestly maybe Blizzard was on to something, I'm surprised Overwatch is still alive.
I bought the Knowhere Corp Mantis skinAMA
>>540293729Which Shrek movie is your favorite?
>>540293998Probably the first one
>>540286380Console players you retard
>>540294419cute esl!
I suggest reading this blog post by Aaron Keller about the various format changes that happened during Overwatch's 10 years of development. A lot of it applies to Marvel Rivals and details exactly what will happen if they do add a role queue.https://overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24104605/director-s-take-opening-up-the-conversation-on-5v5-and-6v6/Netease is in a bad position because they've established themselves as the anti-Overwatch game, pandering hard to jilted ex-OW players who complain endlessly about how so-and-so update "killed the game". If they add role queue, they risk running into the same queue time issues and would eventually have to switch to 5v5 as well, which would be humiliating both to the devs and the playerbase as they'd basically have to admit that Overwatch was correct in its course.It will never happen, even if it would be the best thing for the game.
>>540266510Psylocke and Bucky. You know, the same characters that have been top tier since day 1.
>>540294743>mongoloid still going on about how role queue would save or massively improve the game... for no reason at all... while plugging his ears to everyone disproving him... with 2/2/2 being the most common already
>>540294743I dont care about owThey already said no rq
>>540294743>The Disparity caused social issues as players would try to pressure others into playing tank or support roles even if they didn't want to.>Made introducing new heroes difficult, since new hero kit had to take into consideration hundreds of different team compsDING DING DINGAnd Netease thinks they can do any better? Adding more heroes to this game will just compound these issues. But it's ok, let the nigger playerbase suffer. The Copium has already begun.
Wolverine game looking pretty good.Marvelbros eating well.
>>540294743>Made introducing new heroes difficult, since new hero kit had to take into consideration hundreds of different team compsThis is the kind of retarded, spook, non-issue that plagues modern day game development and is exactly why we've been seeing so many big money projects fail
>>540293032>Saber tooth is a definite never ever lol
>>540295123I think the game is not suppose to be as competitive. The real way forward was alternative game modes not emphasizing a ladder for retention.
>Sony finally actually showed more shit for their Wolverine gamehere's your """"classic"""" Wolverine costume they'll put in for brand synergy btw
>>540295428But it literally happened in Overwatch with the GOATS meta. One new hero release completely invalidated the entire DPS role for an entire year despite that hero getting nerfed in 11 straight patches.
>>540295123You're just are retarded and clueless as Keller.Role queue wouldn't solve that problem, especially since you and him don't even understand the problems and the source of it.People look for things to blame, to control others and get easily triggered when things don't align with what's optimal. This extends to which hero is picked (picking non meta) and much more. You locking every single match to 2-2-2 won't change a thing.This and more stems for how the game itself is inherently designed at the core, which means the problem will not go away or be mitigated by misguided band aid solutions applied in the completely wrong areas.You fundamentally do not understand the problem and anyone suggesting role queue would help, make the game better or solve anything fully admits they do not understand any of the problems they think role queue would fix.
>>540295739And?Only autists care about the competitive meta
>>540294743>Made introducing new heroes difficult, since new hero kit had to take into consideration hundreds of different team compsYeah, kind of like mobas which have far more complex heroes and systems going on. So what. this just highlights their incompetence.
Canadian fit for this game when
we'll 100% get the skin from the Wolverine gameor maybe only PS5 players will lol
>>540296219I can't wait to kill asians, mexicans and blacks as a canadian.
>>540296318There's no skin exclusivity. The only thing I see them doing is making one of the Wolverine skins free if you have PS+
>>540295996>Blah blah blah wah wah wahThe difference between you and Keller is one knows what he's talking about since Overwatch is still alive and kicking and the other is some random nobody anon, that mostly likely a duelist main who thinks fast queue times is better than marginally better matches. The thought of never playing against Triple support or with Triple DPS is good enough for me to have role queue. And I say this as someone who was against it earlier this year.
>>540295738>>540296219If Spider-Man games are any indication, you'll gets tons of costumes for Wolverine in-game.
>>540296824But do we get a mandatory unskippable section about troubles of heccin valid deaf PoCs?
>>540295739because said hero was designed to hard counter the only two things that beat healingwhich is something that arrogant dumbfuck deliberately glosses overshe was a solution to a solution to a problem they were actively enablingand their inability to respond to the issue properly was defined entirely by their inability to admit wrongdoinga rational, competent developer would likely immediately disable the character and cue up an emergency reworkblizzard refused to do this and instead softballed repeated number nerfs that failed to address the core issue of having a healer that cannot be bursted by dive or snipers in a game where sustain is infinite and long-duration resource attrition is impossiblerole queue was never necessary, it was their end of line solution that they chose specifically because it didnt involve blizzard admitting that the character was a flawed design
>>540296557>plugs his ears because it doesn't align with his close-minded viewsRiddle me this and prove you and Keller know what you're talking about>what exactly are the core problems with the game>what are the core issues that result in the kind of behavior described as "players feeling pressured to play a role they might not want" which extends to hero picks or literally anything else>how exactly would role queue solve these problems. keyword: solve>what exactly would be the problems adding role queue be, how could they be mitigated, if at all possibleWe both know you won't and will keep plugging your ears, because you're an emotionally sensitive manchild that can't challenge their ideas.
>>540285641He was a part of the Dark Avengers
>>5402947432-2-2 is by far the most common lineup. How would adding role queue solve anything. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist. The few times you might get a different lineup is not the end of the world or even a problem until you prove that it is.
>>540297295>more cryingI'm going to repeat myself and say you're literally a nobody. You're not important - and your opinion doesn't matter. I'm only interested in facts and the fact is, despite the flack Overwatch gets, and the many many times people said it was going to die, it's still here and outliving all it's "killers". Meanwhile The Devs have been speedrunning all the past issues Overwatch went through, doing a terrible job dealing with it, while having a game that runs like pure shit and The game has already lost a ton of players. I'm not plugging my ears, I just don't care what you have to say. If Overwatch was actually struggling then we can have a conversation. Rivals isn't doing good and adding more heroes isn't going to solve that issue.
Are jeff players literally retarded
>one braindead overwatch shitter shits up half the thread with his off-topic role queue retardation
>>540297921Anon, you're plugging your ears and writing entire posts of cope because no one agrees with you.What problem are you trying to fix with role queue. If you cannot answer this, you admit you're breaking global rules and just trolling.
>>540297070You’re a fucking idiot
>>540298354Go back to your gay discord
>>540298258>you admit you're breaking global rules and just trolling.????Looks like we found our "emotionally sensitive manchild". Shouldn't you be queuing up and blaming supports for why you're 3-18? Keep it up, I'm sure the game will magically get better overnight. The best part is, when EOS announced, you retards are the first to abandon ship and say nothing. Everytime.
>>540298013is that a rhetorical question?
>>540298669I ask again, what problem do you think role queue would solve.If you cannot answer this, the conclusion is that there is no problem.
>>540298108This is why you gatekeep and bully OWfags out of the general.
>>540298791The team comps aren't exactly the way I want them to be. The game is broken and role queue will fix it.
>>540298791Since Scrolling up is too difficult for you, I'm going to just do you a favor a point to my post : >>540297921You call Keller retarded and clueless, but clearly something is working for Overwatch for it to still be around. Rivals isn't going to be around as long as Overwatch. You know it, I know it. I'm not interested in debating your opinion, because it's irrelevant and I don't care. You can take it however you want, because it really doesn't change anything. The game will continue to bleed players and you will continue to find every excuse in the book and say "there's no problem".
>>540294743>Aaron KellerThis is not someone you should raise up as knowing what they're doing. It'd be like saying Emil Pagliarulo is the authority on good rpg design and writing because he worked as lead writer and design director on Starfield.
>>540299461>but clearly something is working for Overwatch for it to still be around.momentum and sunk costI'm not saying Rivals is better but it's like two stage 4 cancer patients fighting with nerf bats
>>540299461Do you have trouble answering simple questions? A 3 year old can do that.I ask YOU again>I ask again, what problem do you think role queue would solve.If you cannot answer this simple question, what you're actively saying is that you want to introduce role queue for absolutely no reason at all, since you can't even say what it is supposed to fix.
This game didn't have a role queueCan you zoomies fuck off and let the adults enjoy their unbalanced shit?
>>540299795Valve knows how to make games, Netease just copied Blizzard homework and did a terrible job at, despite both of them being in special ed.
>>540293998>>540294225People sleep on the 4th honestly. The piper was cool.>>540296402This but unironically
>Valve knows how to make games
>>540300019Laughing Pepe is not an argument.
>>540297921What does that image have to do with your post?
>>540298354weird emotional reaction to that post
>>540299773I'm not repeating myself again. If you want to keep ignoring what I said, that's fine. I just hope you're here when EoS is announced and Overwatch is on their next season. Final (You).
>role queueThis was added as a bandaid to Overwatch to try and fix GOATS, which has absolutely nothing to do with some forced parallel to 2/2/2 meta in MR. GOATS was a hero design problem the overwatch devs weren't competent enough to solve, which was mainly a problem in the pro scene and not most players.Let that sink in. The Overwatch devs designed their heroes so poorly it createds a problem for less than 0,1% of the playerbase and they didn't know how to fix it, so they didn't. Instead they forced composition lock on the entire playerbase.
>>540300019Gee anon they only made several of the best, most influential games of all time
Steam Chart Status?
>>540299795Can you stop being mind broken by BZC?
>>540300428this is funny to me because this game played properly is literally goats light
>>540294743The problem is non 2-2-2 comps being either absolute dogshit or broken nobody likes Goats nobody like DPS heavy comps nobody likes 3 support, its just all slop Ideally the solution is removing roles entirely but a new game would have to do that
>>540300324Glad you concede that there isn't a problem. Or at the very least, you have no idea what it is. While also admitting you can't answer a simple question like any normal adult could.Concession accepted.
>>540300521TRVKE
>>540300521>No one likes having different comps. Every game should be the same lineup Ad Infinitum.
>>540300521True and real
>>540300521Anon, both 2-2-2 and X-X-3 has been played in comp to success. This is not a problem. This is just an idiot desperately wanting role queue for some unspoken reason so he can scream at his team for some other reason other than "we need vanguards!" in less than 10% of his matches in QP.
>>540273514I want to use him; but I can't aim for shit, and I've been playing since season1.
You never saw Paladins suffering from these problems. Just saying
>>540300521Mind explaining how far more complex and deeper games like MOBAs like Dota 2 can function without role queue or role lock but not some hyper casual games like Overwatch or Marvel Rivals?
Not sure how someone could play "competitive" forced to play support or solo-tank most of the time if they want to win and play against or with triple support or triple dps comp and think that's fun or fine for long term.I'm sure adding another duelist will solve the issue though! Maybe Another bucky buff or another Support hero that has circle immortality for 10s! Surely that will do the trick!
>>540301079>suffering from these problemsWhich is what exactly?
>>540301313Being an alive game with players
>>540301239But adding role queue would solve a problem that doesn't exist and cannot be named, brilliant. You are very intelligent.You're just looking for things to blame, like every other shitter.
>>540301402You do realize Paladins is dead as shit and is officially abandoned by Hi-rez, right? If the problem is being dead, Paladins has them all beat.
>>540301476I'm on your side though. We don't need Role queue, we just need more duelist heroes. Daredevil will save the game. I think also, we need at least 4 heroes each season, I really want to play Nightcrawler, he needs to be a Duelist.
>>540301628Yes
>79% of matches has 2 vanguard and 2-3 strategists in them>but for some reason we need role queue???
why cant i get the dagger skin anymore.....
>>540300456>Steam Chart Status?fucked and sucked
that invis/bp/ultron tried to blame the lose on me. people still think jeff is a throwpick yet he's being banned in cel
>>540301079>You never saw Paladins suffering from these problems... the dead game never suffered any problems..?
>>540300952It's not about being effective its about whether its fun to play with and against in which case its obvious that non 2-2-2 comps are not fun to play in or against especially not every game the minute a team starts losing. And it seems others agree if the numbers are anything to go by
>>540302148Nogga that's not what he said at all
>>540302067>>540302209The game is fine.When will Doomposters stop coping?
>>540297921rivals is dying because they're trying to simultaneously appeal to both casual and competitive players, yet not really succeeding in either direction and making the game kind of miserable to play on both ends.the game is very casual in design, with an extremely lenient ranking system, comically bad matchmaking and balancing, yet they're pumping esports money and artificial viewership with twitch drops into it like crazy. there's shit to do as a casual player because they've barely added any new modes to fuck around in and playing it competitively is a joke because of how bad ranked currently is.the only people having consistent fun with the game are either very casual players who just play a bit of QP every now and then and unwind, or competitive pro players who are borderline masochistic and tredge through every shit meta the game is currently in, usually with a financial incentive. every person inbetween does not have fun and has dropped the game or are currently in the process of dropping it, most pro players I personally know aren't even having fun with the game in it's current state and are just in it for the money.they should really stop trying to appeal to both demographics at the same time and just specialize what they add. instead of this 1 hero a month shit which is usually middling in reception to both casual and comp sweatlords, focus on adding more casual modes (a real PvE mode would be great for casual feedback). instead of adding role queue across every mode which would completely kill a lot of the casual appeal in the game, just add it to ranked specifically and leave qp alone (yes, it would be a net positive for ranked even with longer queue times in mind, ranked is dead as it currently is for a reason), adding it to QP would be retarded. balance changes need to be good for comp without killing casual appeal of heroes, too
>Get Spiderman and SG in gold or below>Always do nothing and never swap>Later blames teamI legit can't win with these fuckers. What is it about these characters people gravitate to when there are better options? SG even with her team up somehow can't get a single kill.
>>540302351>rivals is dyingI stopped reading right there
>>540302351Why are you in this general?
I have over 2000 hours in PaladinsYou faggots do not know what a dying game looks like
>>540302209>It's not about being effective its about whether its fun to play with and againstYou better sit down for this, you don't decide what's fun or not.Also see >>540302046>And it seems others agree if the numbers are anything to go byThis is you taking unrelated data you can't back up as an asspull to back up your non-existant claim. Pure desperation.
>>540302351Finally, an intelligent post. I think Role queue would be fine in Competitive, not in Quickplay. Most of the playerbase sticks to quickplay anyway.
>>540302148It's only dead because hirez are scummy and dropped support. I'm talking about role balance >>540302313Bleeding over 20k players a season is fine to you?
>>540302573^^^thisthey nerfd barrack and i uninstalled that trash
>>540246403REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
>>540302351>ranked is deadWhen was the last time you logged into the game
>>540302094either way, jeff is my otp for this season. and to think i didnt touch him pre-rework because i wanted to play honestly...
>>540302659>Bleeding over 20k players a season is fine to you?There's no problem, that's completely normal.
>>540302589>I think Role queue would be fine in CompetitiveYeah, the place it's not needed, massively inflate queue times even more and make matches even more imbalanced because the matchmaker has to be more lenient when matching teams. Brilliant.
>>540302689Based dwarfbro
>>540302659If it bled 20k every season it would already be at ~sub 50k right nowYou are simply retarded and not worth engaging with
>>540302659>It's only dead becauseYes, I'm sure it was a perfect game with 0 flaws. Thats why they dropped support and it died.
>>540302659>It's only dead because hirez are scummy and dropped support.Every other Hi-rez game was abandoned due to gross mismanagement. Smite 1 and Paladins were their only profitable games. Rogue Company was hovering near the red.The now fired head of the company decided that going all in on Smite 2 and shutting down everything else was the optimal move for them.
>>540302792There is no world where that is normal>>540302853It's literally right there at practically 10k above 50k in that>>540302313 image retard
>>540303091>>There is no world where that is normalIt is, if I'm retard.
role queue would literally kill this game lol dps queues would be 7+ mins minimum
>>540303250The generic queue is already 5 minutes at the 99th percentile. Im already dropping ranked because of the queue times.
>>540303250I'm getting 3-4 minute queues times now.
>>540300521I agree.Even though Role Queue isn't an ideal fix for any of the major issues in this game; its the only way to bring the game back to a state of decent balance otherwise 3x supports, 3x dps, sometimes 3x tanks will keep on ruining the gameplay.I wouldn't be opposed to them keeping quickplay the way it is for the sake for fucking around but competitive is a totally different story, im tired of diffing a dps or something and they just swap over to a strategist and bolster their survivability by a ridiculous amount and unless you're playing poke you cant do shit and its incredibly hard to get picks against semi competent teams.
>>540295738Damn, I can't wait to get the Insomniac Jean skin for Marvel Rivals, bro!
>>540303514>its the only way to bring the game back to a state of decent balanceDead fucking wrong, retard. You'd be making the same incompetent mistake Blizzard did. Read >>540300428You don't balance heroes with role lock.
>>540302046well i ain't being put into those matches consistently and unfortunately i'm not in a position to start genociding DPS players so Role Queue fixes it, its pretty much the only solution to my near constant Solo Tanking because neither adding more Tanks (since Angela instalockers lasted like a week at most) or buffing Tanks works so its the solution
>>540303514>3x supports, 3x dps, sometimes 3x tanks will keep on ruining the gameplay.TRVKE
>>540303795>well i ain't beingNo one cares you conveniently forget all the times you get at least 2 vanguards and strategists only because you throw shitfits when you have to solo vanguard every once in a blue moon.>so Role Queue fixes itIt fixes absolutely nothing and there is no problem to fix. Instead it would make the game, especially ranked, astronomically worse and even more dead. You're a dumb fuck.What your stupid ass doesn't even understand is WHY people would choose not to always pick 2 vanguards or strategists since THAT would be the actual problem, which role queue does absolutely fuck all to fix.
>>540303867>>540303514Why the fuck are you people playing a Hero Shooter if people playing different combinations of heroes pisses you off so much?
>>540300521Incredibly based and true
cute mod!
>noooooooooooooo, if it don't get a 2-2-2 lineup 100% of my matches i shit my pantsWhat kind of mental retardation is this.
>>540303795Honestly true.Because people who aren't against RQ aren't doing a good job convincing me that triple support is healthy for the game. And no one want to solo-tank for triple DPS. No, adding more heroes isn't going to fix the problem.
>>540304196Autistic people get upset when things don't follow specific patterns
I can understand not wanting role q but the weird thing the 1 or 2 shills in this thread do where they pretend as if the current flaws or negative trend of people getting fed up with the game and leaving or thinking to leave is just strange. I just don't get what benefit there is to strongly defend the game and netease like this. It can't be that they're comic fans blindly defending marvel because they don't behave like it, the only answer that could logically make some slight sense is that they're either paid shills, bitter overwatchfags with sunk cost fallacy hoping this game would've been different or culture war fans blindly defending this game because muh war on goon and woke left and the gooner game needs to survive to own muh censorship or something and save gaming. And I kinda feel its that last one because the only other group I ever see such behaviour from are tfd fags
>>540304331>aren't doing a good job convincing me that triple support is healthy for the gameMaybe you should try convincing people why non 2-2-2 lineups are factually bad for the game instead. Using actual arguments and facts.Surely you're not just basing this on emotional bias and ignorance, amirite.
>>540301079Yeah because no one played that garbage lol>>540300456>>540301149Good question>>540302313Lmaoooo
>>540304293Orange Mantis bad
>>540304317do you retards not understand that i don't want to solo tank mag for the 13th time in a row? I don't like the idea of role queue, but literally what else am I supposed to do if I want to play other tanks
>>540304331>this thing isn't healthy for the game>nobody wants thisYou people keep saying this shit as if everyone automatically agrees with you
>>540304196why does even discussing it throw you into a fit of autistic rage?
>>540304506its a gyaru mod, i hope luna gets one so when i play with my bestie we will be two gyaru bitches!
>>540304519Nobody told you to solo tank mag if you don't want to do that. Wtf is wrong with you?
>>540302351good point>>540303716grimabsolutely awful>>540304465double good point
>>540304465What your retarded brain doesn't understand is that these retards are trying to say that PEOPLE ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ROLE QUEUE which is not only an illogical and retarded statement by itself, but backed up by absolutely nothing. Which makes you just as fucking retarded. So your reaction to someone calling you out on your illogical bullshit is to call them shills.Is that how you function irl too? When the teacher tells you that you got shit wrong on your test do you call them a shill and fanboy?
>>540301149I've never played a moba but I assume that items and other upgrade systems allow you to counter particular comps. Like for example if they have a support heavy comp then you can just do an anti-healing build. Marvel Rivals doesn't have anything like that.
>>540303727he just said a whole lot of nothing and blizzard badlol
>>540304519>do you retards not understand that i don't want to solo tank mag for the 13th time in a row?Post profile or fuck off.>>540304596The people that are clearly pissed off are the ones screeching for role queue constantly in these threads. Which is a handful of special needs children.
>>540304662nigga solo tank thor or thing is atrociousi want to play thor and thing. i cannot play thor and thing because there are no other tank players on my team. it really isn't more complicated than that
>>540304468> Using actual arguments and facts.You first? All I'm seeing is a bunch of meaningless insults and whiny slop being thrown around. I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how the high healing sustain and solo-tanking for triple DPS is suppose to fun for me or healthy for the game. I'm on the verge of uninstalling myself if I have to fill support for the 15th time because little timmy wants to play spiderman.
>>540304696>What your retarded brain doesn't understand is that these retards are trying to say that PEOPLE ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ROLE QUEUENo one is saying that
>>540304861I feel your pain.These retards don't get it. I'm going to assume most of them are Duelist mains.
>people are getting tired of solo tanking or playing 3 supports they should probably do something about that so its not so annoying to play against>WHAT YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ROLE QUEUE!!!This is the reading comprehension of your average shill
>>540304729No, he explained that the reason Blizzard added role queue wasn't to fix some problem of players not picking 2 tanks or something, but to cover up them not being able to balance heroes properly for pro play.In other words, incompetence that is unrelated to this 2-2-2 thing people are going on about for MR.
Netease can't balance heroes properly either. Fucking lmao
>>540304852>the people that are clearly pissed off>as he throws a tantrum for randoms anons on a chinese cartoon website discuss it
>>540304896>You first?I'm not the one invading threads screaming about how a game absolutely needs role queue without being able to back anything up or even answer basic questions. The onus was always on the one pro-role queue that tries to push it constantly. No one else. If you identity as this, that means the onus is on you.
>>540305086you cant balance hero shooters like in cod games
>>540304852>Post profile or fuck off.you're a gigantic fucking loser stuck in their echo chamber if you think everyone in favour for role queue is some disingenous overwatch fag.Fuck off.
>>540305241>more meaningless insultsYeah, just what I thought. No argument, just more screeching. Next time you wanna reply to me, you answer my question.Just going to ignore you otherwise.
>>540305214Yes because over half this thread, along with many more threads before it, has been utterly shat up by babies crying about how the game absolutely needs role queue.When people have responded seriously to these babies and try to engage in actual discussion they shit the bed. Maybe you have a fetish for chronically ill shitposters, but most people don't.
>>540305210>balacing characters in pvp gamesNot a single game was ever well balanced.
>>540304159>once in a blue moon.you can claim its once in a blue moon, but it sure as shit ain't once in a blue moon, it improves if i play ranked but quickplay you never get a second Tank >It fixes absolutely nothingfixes dogshit teamcomps and obnoxious teamcomps, don't gotta deal with DPS vermin shitting up my games, don't gotta deal with triple support dullness >WHY people would choose not to always pick 2 vanguards because DPS is the most popular role literally every time there is the big 3 class system, you can buff Tanks into the fucking stratosphere or have Tanks be DPS's with 600 health and it doesn't change the fact Tank is a serially unpopular role, Emma frost is a great example, she was and still is considered one of the strongest hero's in this game, she's been S tier since she's released, she also had one of the most popular releases with her trailer having the most views still barely bumped how many people play TankDPS is just popular, nothing will really change that >or strategistswell given having two strategists is mandatory i'm surprised you even posed this as a question, because the answer is either 1.you are actively throwing by fucking up your teamcomp2.you are a selfish retard who's banking that someone else switches all of these answers are things you can't really address and so the solution is role queue because people cannot be trusted to flex for once in their miserable lives
>>540238116At least you have another button to press, iron man is literally just M1
>>540305350How come MOBAs, which are 100x more complex and deeper than Overwatch and MR, can do it just fine?>>540305383>being a mongoloidYou said you solo tanked as Mag in your last 13 matches. Prove it by posting your name and link to your profile. Otherwise you're lying to try and give credence to your non-argument.
>>540305523HOLY TRVKE
>>540305383>81 hours on Mag>hates playing MagNigga just pick something else
So my main is Venom and I noticed my accuracy as him is around 28-35%. My friends gave me a little flack for it. Sure I'm not the best at aiming but if I can get the drop on a healer who doesn't get patty caked or has the team instantly turn, I can kill them just fine. I think what lowers my accuracy so much is that since I don't have to reload I throw out a lot of tentacle shots to act as cover fire. Trying to make the other team not want to engage where I'm throwing tendrils. While I actually don't care much for what my accuracy is as long as I'm doing well overall, is that a bad idea? I mean it is hard for me to land each of the four tentacles per shot when I'm right up in someones face so I do genuinely miss at times, but the awful acc percentage is mainly because of how often I'm just tossing out tendrils. Is that a bad way to play or no?
>>540305481yes because the game is dogshit you retard, its gotten worse season after season and people get tired and jaded.
>>540301149i mean Dota 2 does have a role queue systemand deviating from those roles is throwing? like its not locked because how those roles work is a LOT more complicated than how MR works, its not like you can just make Hawkeye a Tank like you can someone like Razor not sure its really applicable to equate Dota to it just because they are very different games
>>540305813It's Competitive. He plays Mag, because he wants to win. I know this is something alot of Duelist mains don't understand since the game caters to them and they are ones that barely lose any SR even when they play like shit.
>>540305418Anon, I have spent half this thread trying to reason with role queue posters in a very civil manner. I was met with actual shitposting, insults, flat out ignoring over half the posts I wrote because they were close-minded. You have this thread as evidence.I'm sorry I'm not exactly in the mood to treat someone like you showing absolutely no respect and behaving like a child respect and patience, when you don't even offer an olive branch in return.Maybe you thank the person kicking your door in and pissing all over your furniture, but most people don't.
>>540305731why in good fuck would i post my name and profile on here to appeal to your autistic ass? I like mag but i'm fucking sick of playing him. I want to play other tanks but I barely can because all of my teams are dps or healer dominated>>540305813Most of it is from earlier seasons when I actually had fun with him and didn't mind the solo tanking. now it's unbearable that i want to play other tanks
>>540306029I read your post because I thought you we're being serious until I realize you still haven't answered my question. Don't bother replying to me anymore, you're a waste of time.
>>540305523>you can claim its once in a blue moon, but it sure as shit ain't once in a blue moon79%. Data is reliable, unlike your biased emotions you don't even back up with data.>fixes Nothing.>because DPS is the most popular roleYou admit you don't understand the problem, bravo. You comment on the symptom.Again, you want a solution to a problem that even Overwatch didn't apply for the reason you suggest. Which is the only other example.
>>540305813You cannot pick anything else you retard. Strange and Mag are the only tanks the work in a solo tank comp especially after you duelist niggers kept complaining about emma
>>540306067>i want to play other tanksTHEN PICK ANOTHER TANK LIKE WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT?????????This is the funniest thread I've seen in a while
>>540306301>>540306269
>>540305995>i mean Dota 2 does have a role queue systemNo it doesn't. It is one of many many modes you can opt in for and doesn't exist in comp or captains mode. Positions also function vastly differently from roles, since it's levels of farm.
>>540305824Genuinely stop looking at that stat and look at your winrate instead. There are top players in this genre in every game with shit accuracy because of empty shots, especially on maps with lots of corridors because you're just blindly shooting corners in hopes of extra ult charge. If you think your accuracy is actually shit vod review yourself and see how much you're actually missing than looking at a screen that shows how much you like holding m1.
>>540274435Does it count as respect to goon to her giga-fat ass?
>>540305824Nigger who the fuck pays attention to accuracy numbers? I’m constantly holding M1 on melee characters in between fights, and Venom is pseudo melee. It’s the most worthless stat.
>>540306269I solo tank Emma plenty, I think you might just be stupid
>>540306214>you still haven't answered my questionMaybe try again in a civil manner, because dealing with close-minded assholes for half a thread (which you echo strongly in behavior so far) doesn't give you any credibility in terms of not being cut from the same cloth of the people ignoring to answer basic questions, ignoring over half the things someone typed which disproves what they said, logical fallacies and more.But who am I kidding? You're just here to shitpost too. You never had any intention of seriously discussing this or offering an olive branch.
>>540306301>Listen to this advice>Play comp>Get triple DPS niggers>Solo-tank as Thor>We get rolled>Duelist ask for real tank >Don't swap, Lose>Lose -22 SR while my DPS gets -19 or -17 despite going 7-15>Wait another 5minutes for a game to go against triple supportAmazing advice
>>540306405>>540306446These were my thoughts as well. I was just curious if it was normal is all. Thanks.
I’m against 2 2 2 because it would make it impossible to run an avengers comp. 1 min 3 max is better. But it’s not like anyone ever runs a Hulk, Cap, Thor, Ironman team comp anyway. 1000 hours in this game not once has anyone ever wanted to try it out. It think it would go hard.
>>540306581I'm glad that works for you in your bronze and quickplay games
Can we make posting about role queue bannable please. Every single time it shits up the threads only for the exact same shitposts to be made every single time.
>>540306269I solo tank thor or hulk if it's a dive comp and am currently gm. shit just works when you play into the guerilla warfare, just need healers who aren't retards and know how to hold w.Unironically would rather solo tank thor than strange, strange is so easy to bully and you're still sitting mid like a cuck instead of just helping your dps make plays.
>>540306818Only if we stop with the cringe coomer posts as well
>overwatch has role queue>but for some reason the role queue apologists don't play that game instead???
>>540306818It's not shitting the thread at all. The rampant crying is entirely on the anti-rolequeue fags who screech the moment anyone brings it up.
>I keep playing the game in a way that isn't fun>have you tried not doing that?>obviously not, retard, why would I be trying to have fun?Brilliant minds on display here today
>its shitposting if a stance disagrees with mineYou're the one shitting up the thread by refusing to have an honest discussion
>>540306969Despite them both being hero shooters they play vastly different. i prefer marvel rivals but not by much, ultimately role queue would make the game better.
>>540306971Thanks for proving my point and you admitting you intentionally incite flamewars which breaks global rules.
What’s the best comp to use against all fliers if no one on your team can aim, including yourself. My thoughts are:Jeff for his big sprayMantis for her damage boostStrange to for his shieldScarlet witch for her tracking and mobilityStorm for her damage boostAnd starlord for his ult
>>540307076Carefully explain what is honest about ignoring what people say that disproves your statement and refusing to answer simple questions like "what is the problem you think role queue solves". There is zero good faith going on here.
>>540306969I used to but I can’t go back because the characters just look really homosexual compared to the marvel rivals characters. Also I like how many brawlers this game has.
DPSniggers really telling people to "just play solo-tank thor or thing" is the funniest shit, considering they are usally the first ones to get on their knees and beg for someone to swap to Magneto so they can have fun. I want Role queue because I want these faggots to suffer longer queues. Even if they don't add it, seeing the game bleeding players makes me feel vindicated.
>>540306969>dogs are made out of meat>but for some reason the meat-eater apologists don't want to eat dogs????????????????????????????????
>>540306774Checked my stats and Venom win rate is like 55% more or less.
>tards cry about role queue when the marvel rivals devs have flat out said they're not going to add it and even explained whyIf you want to rally people for a meaningless cause, reddit is more your speed.
>>540306384do you think OW2 only has role queue? Guess which mode is more popular
>>540307114there's a difference between a provocateur and people such as yourself that are trying to shit-stir regardless of what gets said. even if they were to agree with you you would just pretend to be the other side of the argument to shit-stir
We just need to force people to enjoy solo-tanking for triple DPS comps. Or playing against triple support. We don't need role queue. We need more Duelist.
>>540307319>almost 80% of matches have at least 2 vanguardsSounds to me someone is playing in the shitter tiers in QP if they constantly get 1 or zero tanks.
>>540306238>79%63% (and the percentage only tracks ranked, so QP doesn't even have a figure and its definitely worse when you try and quickplay), someone's going to be in that other percentage, and from experience that someone is me >You admit you don't understand the problemi've explained and given an example as to why that is the problem, not a symptom and that shit isn't treatable, like if this is meant to be alluding to "well Tanks aren't fun so thats why people don't play them" you are just ignorant to the fact that even if they are fun, even if they are strong people don't play them because they just want to play DPS >Nothing.fixes bad team comps, adds consistency to matchmaking instead of relying on retards>that even Overwatch didn't apply for the reason you suggest. i straight up don't care since i don't play overwatch, i have a precise reason as to why i want role queue i'm sick of solo Tanking and i want consistency in my games, non 2/2/2 always have some brand of bullshit to them so ultimately the game is best played 2/2/2 and is best balanced on 2/2/2
Can we go back to goonposting next thread?
>>540306818there's way less "role queue will cause the playerbase to collapse like overwatch" for obvious reasons
>>540307629Pretty much why I stop engaging with him. He's just stirring shit and hasn't said anything worthwhile.
>>540307629Yes, you're clearly blameless, everyone but you is at fault. You keep proving you just want to argue and fish for replies. Well I know a troll when I see one.
>>540307667NTA but I got to diamond before quitting and even there it's a lot of arm twisting to get people to play a second tank
>>540307830you have a very distinct style of argumentative postingare you the guy that was constantly downplaying emma and sperged out that one time?
HonestlyEven if they added Role Queue it still wouldn't fix the god awful balancing. Their patch-notes are a joke in this game.Hela / Bucky / Pheonix would still be in every other lobbyWolverine would still be a permaban in compThey would still flip flop on balancing as seen with thor going from good, shit, opThe game's just fucked at this rate, the only thing role queue would fix is the annoying 3x support comp but all they literally have to do is nerf damage on mantis, adam and bolster their healing to make up for it.
>>540307667>if they constantly get 1 or zero tanks.Try GM. I unironically regret ever playing comp, I thought the games would improve. It's just Quickplay with rounds, so you're actually not wrong.
>>540307676>>540307401
>>540306969because i want to play Marvel Rivals? >>540306384brother that literally means Dota 2 has Role Queue, i don't mind if its a separate mode or whatever i just want it in some formalso as i said i don't think its super equateable just because of the way positions and Dota heros work vs Marvel Rivals does, like at most you get some hero's who are locked into the support roles because they don't really scale well with farm vs hero's who are locked into Core roles because they are awful without it but otherwise its completely different so i wouldn't compare the two
>>540307830you're not even trying to hide your shit-stirring but you seem to think you're already in too deep to play the "it was a prank bro" card so might as well triple down on it
>>540308008>Even if they added Role Queue it still wouldn't fixRole queue fixes nothing and will never be added, so it's pointless to even talk about.
>>540307830Just use a trip.We know when it's you, nigger.
>>540308091>brother that literally means Dota 2 has Role Queue, i don't mind if its a separate mode or whatever i just want it in some formNo one would play it in arcade since queue times would be insane and forcing it upon ranked would be the final nail in the coffin for ranked. Never happening.
>>540307140Star Lord requires very good aim if you're not just being an ult bot, so not him.
>>540308050>>540307401Nigger literally any discussion here is meaningless under the metric of impacting what the devs say this is a niche Kiribati Egg cracking forum, all opinions here are just meaningless shouting into the void, doesn't mean you don't have opinions and talk about them
>>540308426>>540307401
>>540308356how much damage can it do if no one plays it?
>>540308540Waste of dev time and they said in the matchmaking video they won't add it. Better to spend the resources they have on something actually good that would help the game.
>thread has consistently been at Page 1 for the past hourOur game is looking great!
>>540308694like more mtx designed to appeal to the chinese market?
>>540294743>social problems >laziness in balancingSeems about right. Never pander to the players, have a vision for how the game should look like, and stick to your guns.
>>540308694>Better to spend the resources they have on something actually good that would help the game.Like Resource Rumble!
>>540223492And Dark Phoenix.
>>540307140You want cloak and dagger on heals. Daggers M1 is actually pretty good against fliers. It’s better the missing 80% of your shots as Hela.
>>540308781You can thank the Overwatch trolls that don't even play their own game and the idiots replying to them for that.
>>540308879Hey man at least the map looks good
>>540222719How is Winter Soldier overtuned?
>>540308694>Better to spend the resources they have on something actually good that would help the game.TRVKE! WAITER WAITER 10 MORE FOMO $10 COOM BATTLEPASSES PLEASE! THAT'S IT GUANG KEEP RUMBLING THOSE RESOURCES!
>>540308781as the anon who basically started this entire discussion (i will now be going to bed, the other pro Rolequeue anons can deal with the rest) you're welcome Anon, always happy to kickstart discussion that isn't just gooning :)
>triple support is the “worst” thing everYou will miss this
>>540308828>>540308879No, like placement matches.
>>540306003>>540306269>>540306663Dont care. Not picking Magsneedo.Once you prioritize winning SR over playing what you like you have lost the plot and should uninstall.
>>540308204>>540308426
>>540309068The pro role queue players are just extremely bad vanguard players that cry whenever they have to solo tank which is why they get mad when someone picks a third healer over a second tank.
>>540308862Grinding Gear Games tried that. As soon as they started actually designing the game for what the players wanted their userbase and revenue skyrocketed, and every time they try steering back to their vision of the game their userbase and revenue drop off accordingly.
>>540309152>>540308519
>>540309071The placement match system will be a huge nothingburger I can feel it. Devs have no idea what they are doing and are dishonest. Placement matches will still be the seven division drop with extra steps. 10 matches just get get placed in Platinum 1 if you ended in C3. And people will fall for it.
>>540309256>keeps ignoring that people keep saying that triple support feels like shit to play with and is filled with support ult spam that eternally prolongs games because nothing dies. Doesn't triple support go against netease's philosophy of shorter games?
>>540309259Grim
>>540309068hell no. i hated it in s1 and i did not mourn its loss at all, i will not miss it here either
>>540309046Generates shields are using every ability without even needing to land his hitsHe gets TWO of his E which is impossible to missDespite having the E to ground fliers, now his uppercut also grounds for some reason in case the tard playing him couldn’t secure a kill with it beforeAuto reloads after every ability move despite his reload taking half a secondHis hook is annoying as fuck to deal with as a tank. So he mogs tanks, mogs fliers, mogs dive, mogs brawl, shits out damage, is a poker, all while being one of the tackiest DPSAnd let’s not forget about his ultA balanced Bucky should:- not ground with his uppercut.- not auto-reload after every move. Increase his mag size if 3 is too little.- not regenerate shields after every move. He should only generate shields with his E IF he lands the shot.That’s a balanced Bucky.
>>540309582Doesn't matter, at least it's energy and resources spent in the right direction.
>>540309741I can't wait for the complaints about the placement system.
>>540309613>>keeps ignoring that people keep saying that triple support feels like shit to playA handful of crybabies with overinflated egos. I read the thread and the crying was about how they had to solo tank.
>>540308862To do that your vision has to not be dogshitAt one point, Blizzard envisioned OW as a big Esport and they gradually killed their game over that
>>540309613In triple support you’ll rarely ever see more than 2 “immortal” ults. Unless they specifically run mantis, or three main heals, where the latter is borderline unplayable for the lack of damage that is required.
>>540309613>implying its not just as bad with 2 supportsSupports should be gutted across the board.
>30 hours on rocket>thinks his opinion matters
>>540309613The point of triple healer is to play more offensive healers, so you don't roll luna, sue and c&d because your damage will be terrible.
>>540310007He used to be fun. Its like I have 80 hours on a character I dont like. That would be funny.
Day 356 of Thor still not returning to old Thor
>>540309943Why are you acting as if people don't play luna/cnd/loki? Or luna/cnd/rocket? And you're harping on the immortal ults alone as if having 3 supports doesn't drastically increase increase ttk across the board making gameplay miserable as your just endlessly pumping damage into nothing
The worse part about Rivals, is seeing my youtube recommend video reviews on recent comics or shows when I stop reading them years ago. No I will not read your shit comics.No I will not watch X-men 97. Fuck off.
>>540310312Try picking more offensive and aggressive lineups against 3x healers. If you pick dumb shit like Mag or SW into 3x healers you deserve to lose.
>>540310243Rocket was never fun. Not ever.He is the worst, most boringly designed character in the history of the genera
>>540310475Ok now what about the other 5 retards on my team who don't want to pick more aggressive options into 3 healers? You see the problem here?
>>540310007It matters to me. Which is all that matters. I usually make a point to stay away from Comp as much as possible though.
>>540310626No, because 3x healer lineups are more likely to lose because incompetent and incoordinated teams run it. It's only a problem if you pick a passive hero with low agency and your team is also passive. I like shitting on tryhard 3x healer lineups.
>>540310861The day I hit eternity is the day I stop playing comp. I've been hitting Celestial these recent seasons I know I'm close.
>>540299795Man. Even after years of slop and no balance changes, I can still go spy or solly and have a blast on classic maps or new releases. Legit think tf2 might be the greatest multi-player game of all time honestly and makes me wish that Rivals had copied it more than it had copied OW
>>540310312>Why are you acting as if people don't play luna/cnd/loki? Or luna/cnd/rocket?Mostly because flyers and jean exists. Loki and Luna got nerfed enough, and CnD and Rocket is not doing fuck all to help with the damage problem with that team comp. >3 supports doesn't drastically increase increase ttk across the board makingRight, this hurts dive players, as they rely on burst damage, and therefore cucks them. This is fine, as it just a bad matchup they have to switch off from, or play around better. A non-issue
Don't let all this shitflinging distract you from the fact that this game doesn't allow you to have as many custom crosshairs as you want
>>540310551But enough about cloak and dagger
>>540311080Massive TRVKE
>>540311134What do you mean you need more than one crosshair
>>540311164Bro CnD plays like fucking Ultrakill compared to Rocket
>>540311330I thought they patched this and you could make massive crosshairs anymore? How do you do it?
>>540310861>eternityAh so it is sunk cost and ego faggotry that's leading to denial of the current shit state of the game
>>540311409couldn't*
>>540270704Carol's had two 50-issue series and both in the new millenium, which is more than any other hero except Spider-Man
>>540299795adults don't like unbalanced shit. only "zoomies" and third-worlders with the "me, me, me and only me matters!" brainrot want unbalanced shit.
the ONLY opinions on this game when it comes to designs and balance that I care about are GM+if you can not reach GM at the bare minimum your opinion is put directly into the trash
>>540311409It's an old screenshot
>>540312232GM+ players are only interested in GM+ problems and don't care if their opinions would shit on the gameplay for everybody else if they got implemented or even kill the game.
>>540312232Alright like I was sayingRole queue is completely neccessary for the game in competitive at the very least. If the developers cant balance the characters even down to poke then it would be wise to force 2/2/2
>>540313081unprivate your profile or forever hold your silence coward
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>>540313264I think its time to take off the clown makeup
>>540313394why should I take the opinion of someone who hides his shameful ability?only the shittiest fucking players at EVERY elo private their profile because they know they suck fucking dick and when people avoid them theyre so ashamed of their profile being opened and gawked at that they hidefuck yourself coward
So now that that's over with.I recently picked up Thor and oh boy he is so much fun with a competent Angela player.Even putting aside the teamup, frontlining with an Angela dipping in and out of the enemy's back line is so satisfying and opens up some really brutal combos. I honestly wished I picked up Thor sooner, and should probably start practicing with Angela too.
Guess I probably spoke too soon. Ah well.
>>540313529>>540313394
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>>540273057the average life of niggers who play this shit game
>>540299461>>540299771Overwatch has Roadhog.
>>540311772The power of pozzery>>540308156Made for White mating press
>>540306435Grotesque image>>540307270Rivals has some pretty faggy characters too>>540307898God I wish that was me >>540308781That’s not what that means sadly>>540309050This this this>>540309259No one knows what that is
>>540310351trvkei miss the days when i was enamored with them but I recognize that they’re slop and won’t indulge >>540311080it’s just multiplayer >>540313080faggot ass groid image tomoko stinks GOOD
>>540298354why are you mad when he's 100% right
>>540300131Probably an Indian just ignore xher
>>540266452>peni skipped AGAINmotherfucking chinks!
>>540315267Truth
>>540277554>even Marvel God knew not to make Reed unhappy
>>540310351X-Men 97 was kino to be fair, no idea about the current comics
