#6591 - 1st Genesys List Update Editionhttps://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/Previous: >>540258639>Recommended SimulatorsAutomated:●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●Master Duel (Multi-platform): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850/YuGiOh_Master_DuelManual:●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.comTag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.>Useful LinksRulebook: https://img.yugioh-card.com/en/downloads/rulebook/SD_RuleBook_EN_10.pdfWiki: https://yugipedia.comProbability Calculator: https://yugioh.fyiStock Market: https://yugiohprices.comDatabase: https://www.db.yugioh-card.comMisc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.com>BanlistsTCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2025-09-15/ (Sep 15/Next Banlist: TBA)OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2341 (October 1st/Next Banlist: January 1st)>DecklistsOCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocgTCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-deckshttps://yugiohtopdecks.com (ONLY FOR OLD FORMATS)>NewsJP: https://yugioh-starlight.comEN: https://ygorganization.com>Upcoming ReleasesOCG:●World Premiere Pack 2025 (Sep 27)●Burst Protocol (Oct 25)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 25)●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Charmer (Jan 24)TCG:●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)●Phantom Revengers (Dec 4)●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Spirit Charmers (Jan 23)>Events●/dng/ Friday Night Tourney 3 (No Side Deck) (Sep 27, 1900 UTC): https://challonge.com/dngfnt3●/dng/ League Season 1 (Sep 28th, 1930 UTC):https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1● /dng/ Genesys Stakes (Oct 19th, 1900 UTC):https://challonge.com/dngGenesysStakes
cant wait for october 4-5its going to be a shitshow
Lmao they are already hating how fast they are making changes
Victory dragon status?
Why didn't the lore anime save the franchise?
>>540306870Metaniggers SEETHING
>>540306870METASISTERS... KOA IS BULLYING US...
>>540307085Genesys happened
>>540306870This is why Hoban never showed his deck before an event.
>>540307063Irrelevant.
>>540307063Free, but good luck.
>>540306870So these are the anti genesys people I've heard of
>>540306870METATRANNIES BE SEETHING METATRANNIE BE CRYING Good format
Is Genesys our Clear Mind?
>>540306870>investingOpinion discarded. Choke on your cardboard, kike.
>>540306870Isn't the entire point of this format that you can play it with your whole collection that you already own?Who the fuck is buying new cards for the calvinball format?
So Dracotail is pretty much still one of the best decks, right?
>>540306870Considering that simply replacing the three copies of Ash with 0 costs would leave the list still legal, it'll be really funny if the deck actually does get killed.
>>540307085It did.
>>540306870My lobster is too buttery, my steak is too juicy
>>540306870I used to think /dng/ harbored the stupidest motherfuckers in the yugioh community, until I stepped into the twitter yugioh community. And they really take the cake on how fucking stupid the average player can be.
>Metatrannies seething>Pendtrannies dilating>Linkcrutchers dyingIs there anything more beautiful?
>>540307496Compniggers who sell their decks after every format.
>>540307537Ketu playset went from free to 30 (10 per copy), alongside Arthaion going from 10 to 20 a copy. It's probably fairly strong, but you are going to be cutting point'd handtraps for engine - and potentially cutting into the engine depending on point costs you were prior running.
>>540306870E-celebs who get sponsored by konami and their studio to shill and play the most expensive meta decks hate genesys where they just can't mindlessly have a monopoly on being terminally unemployed now? This can't be! Down with genesys because ei can't play my table 500 pet decks without links!!!!
Selection 10: Genesys
>>540307713Shut up Sora, Patchwork is 33 points.
>>540306870>People still think the VSK9 hits were a direct reaction to everyone claiming it would be a T0 deckIt was an incredibly obvious example of how Konami would adjust the list with future product releases in addition to stuff they overlooked (like the Mystic Mine hits), how do they not get this.
>>540307786I think 1 Faimena, 2 Ketu, 3 Mulu, and 2 Arta is the play (95 points)You can spend the remaining points on cartesia and go full boardbreaker non-engine
>>540307881Son's fantasy
>>540306870Holy fuck, I love this new format
>>540307881Sora after I’m done with him
>>540307881He already knows >>540202492
>>540306520>banlist after 2 daysrip gensyster format 9/22/25-9/24/25 I barely knew theealternative thread title: 6591 - "Hitting the correct Mikanko card" Edition
>>540307693That's saying something, because I'm really fucking stupid when it comes to this game.
>>540307496tcg hobby has been invaded by investorfags since logan paul did the box opening of pokemon cards 5 years ago
>>540308210Yeah, wasn’t he playing some genesys games with his fluffals earlier?
>>540308225If anything, making the change earlier is the best case scenarioImagine waiting until an event then realizing how fucked they made the format and THEN fixing it.
What does Sora have that I don't?
>>540307960Inflated ego. He also sells courses. Spreadsheets too for only $25.https://metafy.gg/@cristian-urena-11b6b8dd/guides
So this format is basically yugioh but meta decks can only play garbage non-engine while rogue can play anything they want?Sucks if your deck needs pendshit or linkshit but this looks promising.
Defeated ones.
>>540308445A bowlcut and a british accent.
If the logic behind no links and pends is because the game is too complicated, then make an exclusive Genesys ruling that removes missing the timing, non targetting removal for single target effects (i.e. accesscode) and any kind of stupid unclassified type of effect that's stupid.
>>540308521No, they butchered a lot of rogue decks.And a lot of decks not even remotely close to rogue.Fucking gladiator beasts were massacred lmao
>>540308521not quite “anything”Even if your core is 0 points you’re still quite limited on staples
>>540308339It's funny to me because there might not've even been locals for this format yet and it got axed>announced Monday>any shops that do YGO on Monday/Tuesday likely haven't gotten a headcount or enough responses yet to set up a day for it>if you met all that criteria and were going to have Wednesday Night genesys and spent the last two days making a deck, it might not be legal anymoreimagine some asshole gets out of work at 5'o clock, grabs his backpack and makes it to locals and his Lyrilusc deck is already gutted, kek
>>540308637Missing timing doesn't exist anymore in modern ygo and untargeted single target removal is deliberate effect design
MonarchEMPERORSThey limited our Domains and Erupts, they took away our Zaborg, they took away our Fiends, they added salt to the wound by taking our Ancho, Angel O7 and Spell Canceller away from us, but worry not because these two are here to save the day.
>>540308890I dunno man, this is some giga level of jumping the gun if someone went all in on a deck for a freshly minted format within the first 2 days.
>>540308708>gladiator beastsWhy the fuck would they hit that deck when modern GB needs their links to make any sort of play
>>540308637>any kind of stupid unclassified type of effect that's stupid.This doesn't really have to do with what you said but man I wish cards that ignored Summoning conditions actually fucking ignored Summoning conditions at all times.
>>540309062Here's the funniest part anonThey hit it FOUR times.
hecking hands might not succeed in standard but in genesys due to less handtraps
>>540309062Clearly someone at KoA mained Glad Beasts during testing and kept waxing shitters across many different iterations of the banlist until the team but them on the list so he had to give up running power non-engine.I'm sure you could trawl through the point list and spot lots of environmental storytelling like that
>>540309103>I wish cards that ignored Summoning conditions actually fucking ignored Summoning conditions at all times.Amusing to me how cards like pic related have to work around the graveyard aspect of ignoring the summoning conditions.
>>540309103It's funny how universal truths of the game get fucked.>Card text supersedes rules>Except when trying to Special Summon a monster from the GY, in which case it needs to be "properly Summoned" for you to be able to do so, even though nothing about the text is saying you can't>Well what about "ignoring Summoning conditions" then? That lets you get past stuff like "Must be Synchro Summoned." surely that works?>No, you MUST properly summon it firstCard text overrides rules until it doesn't
>>540308445Playable cards, for starters.
>>540309586Ninjas and ancient gear both being double hit feels like someone was playing them during testing
>>540309686behold the card that made konami create the properly summoned ruling
>>540309586Every even half-decent RUM being 1-5 points, combined with the "We make FTKs 100 points and all of their support pieces 1 point each" hints at a story I really want to know more about.
Why is Shifter only 10?
>>540309053i don't mean going full spreadsheet meta tard, i really do just mean locals. It'd suck to show up for the first real day of it and you find out the first list lasted 48 hours.>>540309062>>540309215it can get even funnier, GB player here (go ahead laugh). It can't even do most of its real plays with Test Panther/Dareios illegal. Can't even go Tamer Editor pass off most Gistel hands without a 3-4 card combo. I lose my shit over how it took 18 years for Proving Ground to be searchable and they soft-limit the card in meme format>>540309353DOOD just got day 1 hits. They say its because "K9 and Dominus existed already and are good so we have to hit all their cards!" but don't be surprised when they use different logic to pre-hit everything like we're in MD
>>540310071because konami hates me specifically
>>540310071they don't want GY decks doing funny stuffbut yes shifter should be at 60 minimum
>>540306870anyone who wasn't delusional saw it comingfirst impression is crucial, of course KoA won't let the normal format's top dog shit up the first tournament of their new lower power formatand as if this spic bought the VSK9 cards for genesys anyway
>>540308483The same people top every time because they're the only ones willing to travel to literally every event and have access to every playset of every card they could possibly want along with a group of similar people to playtest against.
>>540310003I remember when synchros came out and stardust dragon was the coolest shit ever. Good times.
>>540310113I cannot imagine a locals having an event within 2 days?Maybe I just have a slow locals?
>>540310113At this rate, GBs are going to be sent back to the "Bestari Set 2 Pass" days
>>540306870I'm sure not even Konami is THAT retarded to let the best deck in advanced to get completely unhit in a lower power format.
>>540310264>Mansex>hating gays
>>540310003You mean when Japanese playground kids were discarding rituals with Graceful Charity and reviving them with Monster Reborn.
>>54031023451I don’t want people running more than 1 but I don’t think it should have that much of an impact on the other cards you can run
>>540308483>Thats why the Same people top every timeI wish we could get actual stats on the people who 1) Purchase a top tier deck2) Travel to multiple events within a given timeframe3) DON'T top in some capacityI'm willing to bet, aside from youtubers or the usual suspects, that number is astronomically low. Most people barely bother traveling to events, only really going to ones in their country or incredibly nearby. Or most people would be bringing some dogshit that can't top.
>>540310234>>540310534Might as well make it 100, no one wants Shifter in a format like this anyway
>>540310234>>540310534Eeeh.I'd put shifter at 33If someone wants to run a playset, let them but it takes nearly all their points.Because both of your scenarios, it just feels like the worst thing in the world when you get stacked- I meant SACKED by the 1-of shifterIts a very 0 or 3 of card because of how sacky it feels.
>>540308793A playset of charmies + whatever handtraps you can fit honestly shores up the difference in power level between a 100 point engine deck and 0 point engine deck more than most people give it credit. The issue is that good luck finding a deck that's zero points, good, and can run non-engine effectively.If anything the format powerhouses will just end up being decks that are only minorly hit and can flex in some amount of non-engine or even just the cheaper non-engine. I fortell that trap slop might take an early dominance but will fall off once people get wise to their Jewish tricks>>540310045It's S0. They started making rums searchable after numeron got him banned so it's just an extremely clunky way go prevent S0 turbo being a deck.
>>540310586I'd imagine that people who spend their money and time to do that also have the skill to justify this endeavour
>>540310515Close enough. You WILL use Poly (or use Cyber Stein released in the same set as this)
>>540310746>The issue is that good luck finding a deck that's zero points, good, and can run non-engine effectively.Completely unhit and can run Shifter btw.
>>540308483>only $25
>>540310515ritual monsters should be treated as vanillas unless specifically ritual summoned but sadly that would be a ruling nightmare
>>540310586Master Duel still proved that the same people top every time even if literally everyone have access to the best decks and can play from anywhere.
>>540310948The nun mom...
>>540310746S0 turbo is still theoretically possible if you hard summon 3 number monsters with the same rank (without spending any points)
>>540311098Master Duel topping requires spending actual full days playing a ladder endlessly. Easy enough to do for someone with a lot of dedication to it, or a streamer who plays yugioh as a form of content generation.
what yugioh needs is more handsome and muscular men with their fat hairy tits outsweat is optional
>>540311180...is...
>>540311259Hi Theofag
>>540310746>The issue is that good luck finding a deck that's zero points, good, and can run non-engine effectively.Melodious completely unhit and was a fairly competent rogue deck for a while.Even ostinato isn't hit, making melodious a pretty good 0 point disruption engine too if your deck feels like running it.
>>540310515Is this not how it works besides cards that say “X can only be summoned this way”
>>540311386You don't have either of the new Level 4 Pends
>>540311386Melodious can't run their pendulum cards. It's bad.
>>540311386is melodius even good without the broken pends?
>>540311389Rituals work the same as ED monsters. You have to properly summon them first before they can be revivable.
>>540311386What's the point of playing Melodious without the pends
>>540311389oh you sweet summer childNo
>>540311528How long has this been a thing? Both ED and rituals
>>540306870>investing into this formatThis nigger did NOT go out and buy all of K9 + VS day 1 for fucking Genesys format.
>>540311694Since the early days with Fusions and Rituals.
>>540311757Investors are more retarded than you think they are
>>540311694Always. People just didn't have to actually learn the ruling until Starlight Road came out.
RDA is fairly decent in the new format
Why the fuck you faggot even crying about?Isnt you guy complain that the game is unbalanced as fuck?
>>540311918you need to be more specific about what you’re talking about so I can tell you why you’re wrong
>>540306870>makes a snarky "formats solved" post because Konami didn't hit a current meta deck hard enough>cries when Konami quickly fixes it
>>540311997Here
>>540312163RKO OUTTA NOWHERE
>>540310746>The issue is that good luck finding a deck that's zero points, good, and can run non-engine effectively.I am actively building and testing this right now. The ratios need work, I'm short by 20 points (the second Shifter isn't supposed to be there), and I'm out of practice, but I have faith it can at least spook some people.
Wait I just realized I can totally play Domain Monarchs in Genesys just slightly gimped. Holy basedBOW DOWN TO THEBOW DOWN TO THE KING
>>540312270Post the extra nigger
>>540312159HAHAHAHABTFO
>>540312345It's blank. I haven't finished my main deck ratios yet.Probably going to start with the 2015 R4 Toolbox, a few various filler monsters to hit Kaliedo targets, and see where it goes from there.
>>540312287Literally Lithium2300's first Genesys format duel video.
>>540311846>investing in already expensive current meta stuff
>Tried Neo-Spacians>LostShit format
>>540312270Bro your arc light and nyarla?
>>540312509Idk I don't watch yugitubers aside from DuelLogs to kill time sometimesLithium is cool doe
>>540312270you should duel that one guy who wants to hard summon qliphort towers and recreate the 2015 experience
Imperm isn’t worth it in genesys, you can run 3 copies of veiler/mourner for slightly less cost
>>540312686Arc Light isn't strictly necessary with the recent support.I legitimately do not know why you would put Nyarla in this deck in 2025 without Links.
>>540312880It's gonna take the MDbabies a few weeks to figure out that veiler is basically the exact same as imperm.
This might be a good non-engine option if your deck can't afford normal handtraps
>>540307085branded is garbage and the sky striker anime is worse than master duel storyalso lore anime for tcg are a fucking joke
>>540313047that is an impressively underwhelming effect for that art and card name
>>540312880This feels so natural to say, why didn't we have a points / interaction based banlist all along?Imperm is the stronger card most of the time, it should have a tradeoff for being played. Same goes for a lot of cards. Deck building was always weird in how you could just stuff your deck with the best things available. In the early videogames funnily they did tend to assign costs to cards
>>540313020>crossout 10>called by 20monster handtraps are very strong in this format
Anyone has a cyber dragon deck in genesys format?
>>540313317Talent is 93 as well
>>540313361>the whole schtick with talents is that it's 3 banned cards effects>some of those banned cards are lower point cost than talentslol
This shows how poorly they handle regular yugioh intentionally
>>540313171I believe it's meant to be used on the monster it's from after using it's materials up for bonus destruction
>>540313047since there's no links this also is better than the books since they have costs
>Skill Drain 100>Imperial Order 100>Royal Decree 10This is discrimination.
>>540313518that’s cute but I think I’d rather just play dark hole
>>540313560Maybe better than eclipse but it’s not quickplay and jobs to drident which is a bit significanf
Da if you're hereDo you have free time to move the Genesys tourney back a little bit? It seems more logical to strike it while the iron is still hot, ideally this very Sunday since most people on here seemingly join tourneys last second anyway and /dng/ as well as the game itself seems to be having a slight resurgence with this so we might pull in some new players and get a few regulars on.
>>540313626Dark Hole costs 3 points and can't be used to dodge stuff or pop a backrow, and bad going first.
>>540313719zoo is way too expensive for no reason
>>540313626Dark hole isn't a quick play
>>540311386The pends make the deck. You pretty much use each of the 6 effects in 1 turn.
>>540313870>no reasonZooniggers lying about their cancerous deck for 8 years straight now
>>540313945and despite this it’s still a much better card
>4 swordsoul with pointsI think Konami forgot that without links the Tenyi all fucking suck so there was zero reason to hit swordsoul this hard.
>>540314115Yes there was, downplaying nigger.
>>540311386Bro thinks it's 2014 and he's going to Soul Charge the Elegy+Aria Lockout.
>>540314020zoo used to be strong 10 years agonot so much nowdays
https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2345
>>540314182Soul Charge is 50 points.
>>540314229Yeah, because it’s best cards are still under lockdown
>>540314115they want you to have to work for your synchros
>>540313801>move the Genesys tourney back a little bit?Do you mean move it forward? I don't mind, I picked the 19th because I wanted to give people enough time to build decks and so anyone else hosting anything would be able to adjust accordingly.I guess I can host this Sunday and if no one shows, I'll push it back until the 5th.
>follows up Mitsurugi a true meta threat>Is just another shitty TCG exclusive>Boxed out of new shitdeck format because casuals and shitters cried about Links too hard.These guys are so shit the excuse could be made that they were designed for new shitdeck format but Links are banned. I like how Blue-eyes the number casual deck also loses one of it's strongest new cards.
>>540314115Yeah it strikes me as one of the preemptively massively hit decks that'll hopefully get their points lowered
>>540314384even with their best cards they would lose to current k9 or dracotail since they can just do t0 plays1 card drident is overrated
the numeron gates should be 5 points each not 10
>>540314550R.B. is actually good DOE
>>540314601>1 card drident is overratedYeah, because they can’t do more due to the limits on all their cards
>>540314384Only Ratpier and Broadbull deserve the points they have. There's 0 reason to give Barrage and Drident that much points.
>>540314550Yeah I don't really think the last few years of TCG packfiller was made with Genesys in mind when they made plenty of Link cards.
>>540306520>Ojama Duo -> 2>Ojama Trio -> 3>1 Ojama = 1 point1 Shifter is worth 10 Ojamas
>>540314601I would argue that 3 rat and 3 broadbull would make them a genuine meta threat in Advanced. People forgot that Ratpier has a busted 2nd effect because it's essentially "banned" because of the limit.
>>540314702this card does nothing the millenium cards are the best thing it can search these days
>>540314774Yes there is, now quit whining before whiptail gets pointed
>>540314932where have i heard that before oh yeah>the drulers can never be unbanned
>>540315181Dragon Rulers are all -1, only retards said that.Normal summon or Barrage into Ratpier search any beast warrior in the game + double e-tele.
>>540315416to you it was a -1to me… it was tuesday
>>540315416and what do you do with that?f0 and zeus cost points in this formatzoo would be essentially priced out in this format even if all their cards were playable
Feels like Genesys has led to an explosion of activity and discussion everywhere similar to the stealth MD launch, hopefully with a happier ending this time
>>540315620Yes I know it's dogshit in genesys.I'm just saying that full power Zoodiac would still be good in Advanced.
>>540315754the problem with zoo is the amount of ED space it requires to be played at full powerits just not worth it anymore when there's better cards you could play insteadi could see ryzeal/zoo be played and it wouldn't be that strong compared to the other top decks of the format
>>540315634>Feels like Genesys has led to an explosion of activity and discussion everywhere similar to the stealth MD launchYoutube anime bros... it was supposed to be us...
>>540316026>thrust is only 13 pointsYipee->handtraps are significantly less played in genesysAwww
>>540316319didn’t mean to reply lol
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/2025/genesys/the-cost-of-prevention/Don't know if anyone posted it but some design philosophy for Yugioh Genesys
>>540315634But how many of those people weren't already playing modern yugioh?
>>540311907i made a cool list for it but I can't share it anywhere or Konami will hit the cards...
>>540316489Yes we all know that the overabundance of staple handtraps is a big issue. If they actually hit these dumb cards properly on the real banlist we wouldn't need genesys.
>Foolish Burial Goods has a cost nowBut why?
>>540316657tinfoil hat time they let the game get as bad as they did so that they could have this alt format come in and “save yugioh”
>>540316319You can still play it in Mimighoul.Impulse is also 30 points so there's no auto-lose card anymore.
>>540315634More than half of those were initiated by kiketuber fanbases and KoA employees/collaborators lol
What's up with Sales Bana and Prohibition going to 100 points
>>540317009Rhongo bullshit
>>540316828TCG has had full control over their banlist for ages. If they wanted to hit the handtraps and other staples they could have done it at any point.
>>540316657That's what bothers me the most. Genesys makes it clear KoA can see the issues with the tcg and with this update also closely follow community discussion, they just simply refuse to act on it.
>>540317064but why would they do that when they can shill a new format?
>>540317076The event banlists in MD also prove that the OCG also knows whats fucked about the game but refuses to fix it.
>>540317009The protect ftk decks from their silver bullets
>>540317076most likely they can't change things too much due to OCG mandatesgenesys being an alt format allows them more freedom
>>540317049I don't think I understand. You declare a Kaiju or what
>>540317009>See opponent's high-point cards in Game 1>Side in Prohibition/Sales Ban>Declare opponent's high-point cards>They lose because they can't play
>>540317009with no links you can’t just make a link 2 and remove itand if they called a key card to your gameplan, removing it with your core might prove difficult and with things like feather duster and lighting storm costing so many points even they can’t save you
>>540317239I assumed it was for Eveil + Rhongo or any other way to get Rhongo on the field.You declare Rhongo yourself so it doesn't need to detach and can keep floodgating your opponent forever.
>>540317187On the flip side, if genesys is going to be the carefully curated format where they focus on the game being "managable" (however you interpret that), then I hope they relax the advanced banlist and let the more crazy shit free.
>>540317417I don't think prohibition calling engine card is that broken and sales ban only lasts until the end of the turn.Honestly it might be a pre-emptive hit in case there's an FTK deck then at least they can't play prohibition/sales ban to call Droll or something.
>>540317217I had considered that, and it matches with what >>540317187 said. It doesn't make much sense for the OCG to do so, but I'd fully believe it just out of petty control being the motivating factor.
>gossip shadow (70p) paying for the sins of rongo So much for radiant storm I guess.
>>540317847Yeah, really hoping they change those numbers to 15 Gossip Shadow, 86 Rhongo
>>540317786>I don't think prohibition calling engine card is that brokenbecause live a privileged life where any card can be easily outed just by summoning some monsters to the field or drawing your feather dusterwe’re not in your neighbourhood anymore, when your decks best playmaker is called and you have 0 outs you will wish this card was banned
>>540317786i unironically believe its an exodia ftk nerf.
>>540317847Gossip is the problem. Rhongo is balanced around it's cost and should not be punished for the sins of cheating faggots
>banned
>>540317239The first line of text is mandatory activated effect not a maintenance cost like Bagooska. If you Sales ban and call Rhongo, his effect won't activate anymore.
>>540318183Rhongo is a badly designed card.If Rhongo is on the field then no one is having fun.
I think this is a solid first draft.Some notes from early hand testing:>Arc Light almost completely unnecessary in 2025. You can reliably touch any card in the deck for way fewer points.>Zeus feels like overkill when Exciton Knight is also in the ED and can usually be summoned pretty easily. Might cut him to side more handtraps.>A lot of these ratios are based on the old T0 ratios, and will likely need tuning. Not sure you need 3 Valk in 2025, for instance.>Chain's absence is felt, but not as badly as you'd think.>Turn 1 Redoer is a potentially annoying play to make.>This deck would really like to run Called By to avoid getting handtrapped itself. If my opponent says "Ash Blossom" 3 times in front of a mirror, I explode.>Anon's statement about Imperm being more expensive than Veiler was correct and I actually did forget that Veiler was less than half the cost.>I had Shifter in here originally, but it ends up being a bit more of a nuisance than its worth. Might put one in the side if I get rid of Zeus.>Feels like the R4 toolbox could be better.>Arma Knight toolbox isn't very good without RotA to grab it.>This build struggles with backrow removal, so more of the side deck might need to be dedicated to that.
>banned.
What if we also remove xyzWhat then?
>>540318459the format improves significantly
>>540318403>nekroz>not maxing out called byGenesyssies aren't really bright
>>540318323>>540317447Ah I see this I understand (as opposed to declaring your opponents key card, imo in that case your deck is bad if it can't deal with that)
They should print a rank 4 that searches aquas so I can bridge other shit into tistina
>>540308445Femboy, diapers and a playable deck
>>540318623You can usually play through one Ash, but if you see more than that, scoop.Called By is a 20~60 point gamble that your opponent will open two copies of a card that can fuck you over.It can hurt to not have, but most of the time you probably won't need it.
>>540318183>Rhongo is balanced
>>540318803Hi son
Just implement this shitty format into master duel ffs konami.
Hosting, EU casual
Would Ecclesia be a Springans card?
>>540319129>Genesys is a TCG Brainchild>MD is handled by KoJ and the OCG teamI really don't see it happening.
>>540319129That would require the OCG to care or listen to a single thing by the TCG so no
>>540318831>but most of the time you probably won't need itI can agree. 80% of genesyssies out there will be too dumb to realize that using points on handtraps is the best way to play the game and instead waste points on more engine cards. You will probably only job to the other smarter 20% of genesyssies
>>540319129The BEST we are gonna get when it comes to MD are unofficial tournaments ran with genesys rules
>>540319359Genesys?
>>540319563Konami themselves literally said the Japanese office ran a Genesys tournament of their own as part of the testing
>>540319751Do you think the idea of "Hey, could you try implementing a test run of Genesys into MD" wasn't tossed around by the TCG
>>540319464MD playerbase has been bleeding. The only way I could see genesys hitting MD is a last ditch effort to get players back on the game.
>>540319917MD wouldn’t be bleeding if they just the Maliss cards already. It’s really unfun.
>>540318183Rhonda isn't balanced in a game where you do your entire combo in one turn.
>>540314532if it does get moved to this sunday, i'm wondering if i should postpone the free neptune tourney so we don't have two tournaments on back to back days (back to back to back if you count the start of a new league round). i'm not sure if people would be fine with that or not.
>>540319129Okay, here's your 3 day trial of Genesys format in Master Duel.Thank you for playing Master Duel.
Genesys players should make another general and fuck off
>>540319917They did have an event to tie with the Tactical-Try Decks and Pack, but said products are OCG ideas and it's the one alternate format they are really trying to cultivate. It just doesn't seem likely since the TCG came up with Genesys and the OCG just tested it.
>>540316271The new team who'd make a new (full) anime probably wouldn't be able to make a popular and passionate character on the level of Shun ever again. Too bad
>>540321041The FUCK would you even have to discuss if not for Genesys?
>>540321041Nigger, if you want to talk about something, TALK ABOUT IT.
>>540321209Better than letting all of the shitposting and shilling about genesys running rampant. Do you honestly believe that shitposters from other places wouldn't go on 4chan and shitposts about genesys?
>>540307879No but really, imagine it. Bandaid support for non-Link decks incidentally hit like Glad Beasts, Fire Fists, etc. Bandaid support for non-Link decks that just happen to be below the powercurve of even Genesys format. And new bandaid cores for old ass decks that never got support like Hazy Flames, Scraps, Hieratics, Digital Bugs, etc. Imagine.
>>540321568her breasts are too lewd
>>540321530>. Do you honestly believe that shitposters from other placesSuch as?
Has anyone been tinkering with Super Quants in Genesys? I think a lower ceiling variant (ie not trying to vomit magnus t1 every game by playing a dozen really bad cards) might have legs in the format since the new cards are cracked beyond belief and the whole deck is unrestricted beyond e-tele. There's probably something you could do with Mind Master too (one whole point) but that's beyond my understanding.
Made for Duel Links format.Made for Master Duel format.Made for Tactical Try format.Made for Genesys format.
>>540321530>Not talking about the game is better than talking about the game
>>540321041>i want to talk about the non existent standard format discussionsthere's nothing to talk about when it comes to advanced>when is the banlist >look at these reveals
>>540321725This place is for real yugioh, not imaginary format
>>540321873Go ahead and talk about real yugioh then, no one is stopping you
>>540321873ok then talk about itoh wait there's nothing to talk about >banlist just came out>reveals are 2 weeks away
>>540311452>>540311458>>540311493>>540311545Its a slightly different combo but you're still going to be able to get schuberta+any rank 4 or etoile with an extra melodious body (could be aria for targetting protection) for a double bounce.Its not too shabby.
>>540322021AND still BETTER than posting about off-topic shit like genesys. Your format is off-topic
>>540321704Just play Minimalian
>>540322163this whore should have been banned long ago
>pend and link faggots mad kek
>All dolche and vernu are unhitNot having the link 3 kinda sucks but I think the deck is still good
>k9 now unplayable in all formatsHave they ever hated a deck this much?
pendGODS and linkfags need to make their own genesys with hookers
>This place is for real yugioh, not imaginary format>plays prerelease on simulators
>>540322640SHS
>>540322717Yes
>>540322464Do let me know how it turns out. I feel like Madolche doesn't have much going for it and needs more beyond Vernuslyph.
Big Eye and Small Eye.
>>540317821Maybe it's taken a lot of navigating and pleas behind scenes to obtain this middling amount of control. Technically KoA has more to fear on their side about a shrinking playerbase, in Japan Konami has a lot of other ventures they get money from over there
>>540320134MD was shit well before Maliss ever got added to the game. Hitting Maliss would do little to fix the garbage state of the game.
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>>540320134MD had banlist issues way before malice. Current format just cement their bias.
>>540320460You know what I just realized.The Yu-Gi-Oh ended where it has today, not just cause of the "lack of cost" on cards and power creep, but more importantly, because of how combat works.Because Monsters can attack other monsters, targeted removal is basically useless, or, has been for most of the game's life. This is because weak monsters have zero chance of really surviving on the board, which makes "setting up combos" like you would in a traditional TCG, effectively impossible. Thus, the only way for the game to really advance the idea of a combo is by making it explosive, which inevitably leads to where the game is today, lengthy 1 card combos that can happen at any time.If monster had had more permanence on the board, like in other games, then the concept of "setting up your combo pieces" before your combo could pop off would have been more of a concept I think.
>>540323752https://www.masterduelmeta.com/articles/news/april-24-2022/master-duel-forbidden-list-updateI still look back at the very first MD banlist to appreciate how awful it was.
Well this is what I see on my end.
>>540324061Works on my machine
>>540324061that is also what I see
>>540324061when someone is hosting write "dng" without the quotes in the Filter part at the top right in between allowed cards and host, and above show locked roomsalso tick show locked rooms, and show started rooms if you want to spectate or check if the hosted room was taken already
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>>540323946They are doing OCG pussyfooting but ten times worse due gacha. None of actual relevant cards got hit because they are UR.
gawddayum, they really didn't want them to be playable
>>540306520>maetaverse 0 to 3FUCK there goes all my mystic mine plans.
Testing Genesys feels like such shit because the best decks are whatever Konami forgot to put point restrictions on and all of them will likely be nerfed to hell by the end of the week.
>>540325746>the best decks are whatever Konami forgot to put point restrictions onname one example
>>540325631simply open the 1-ofthere's still like demise of the land isn't there
>>540313223>This feels so natural to say, why didn't we have a points / interaction based banlist all along?Because the game was first released in 1999 in Japan and early 2000s internationally. When you are doing everything manually, a Forbidden/Limited/Semi-Limited/Unlimited was very easy to work with compared to a points-based banlist.Of note to support this, stuff like the Sacred Cards, Duelist of the Roses, and early video games do actually work off of a points system.So now that we got the easy internet access via phones, it becomes significantly more easy to use a points system.
>>540326085I'll tell you after I win the first Genesys YCS.
>>540326090no. it costs 1 now.
>>540326085Exosister
>>540326373oh :(
>>540326449loses to raigeki, next deck pls
>>540326449Lol.
>>540326449I thought you'd name a good deck
>>540325746Maybe if people realized this format is for fun and stopped being bitches. Just play your favorites, try to make work those not very OP Decks you always wanted to play and pray others are doing the same, busting out their Nekroz / Vendread / Inzektor / Egyptian Gods decks instead of blue eyes or K9 VS
>>540326658>loses to a point card that nobody is playing
>>540326692>NekrozUnicore is not fun.
ggs. both imperms cooked me but that first one was devastating considering the hand I had.
Deck seller, give me your STRONGEST Zombie World synchro deck for Genesys
>>540326692>blue eyesWishes is 33
>>540326085Fire King got off pretty easy with their point costs. I think Konami underestimated them without Snake-Eyes.
>>540326854my zombie world synchro deck is too strong for you duelist
why is the genesys tourny a month out?
>>540326960See>>540313801>>540314532
>>5403268852 is enough, you're searching it with True Light anyway
Is Lab playable in Genesys
>>540326909>you can still just do the Turn 0 Meteor comboBroken
>>540326449>loses to this 0 point bastard in every side deck
>>540327228yeah
>>540326090>>540326373This and Favorite Hero are the only 2 field searchers at 0 points. Owl of Luck is a thing too, but it's a flip and only places it on the top of the deck.
>>540327275oh shit, no linksfuck links were holding back so many cool techs
>>540326085Artmegia. Very small engine and do a lot
>>540327410>so many cool techs>D. Barrier for Xyz if your deck has no way to out it
did you know that unlike other bugs, if there's enough cockroaches in a room they start to have a strong smell
Insect woman.
>>540327275Every time I see this card I'm reminded of when MD had an xyz only event and Konami forgot to ban him. They had to emergency ban the bug the next day lmao.
>>540327461>and do a lotlol, lmao
>>540327275It might be worth maining/siding Book of Moon just for this
>>540327563It shits on whatever shit deck you can think of btw
>>540327657I repeat lol, lmao
>>540327541
>>540327657host
>>540326909Fire King uses 100 points just on triple Kirin/Ulcanix and one Ponix
>>540327461>oooo konami done fucked up this time, they missed this shit they really did>gotta tear up the meta with my fucking ARTMEGIA DECKLMAO
>>540327461What exactly does an artmage engine consist of?
>>540327275..... Why the FUCK DON'T WE HAVE A CARD LIKE THIS FOR LINKS??????I'm realizing how untouchable Link cards seem to be, Konami overprotects them and they're one of the biggest cancers.. For starters they should have errata'd Dimensional Barrier to include Links, the card was meant to include everything but Normal/Special summon but was printed before the new summoning method.And yeah this bug thing. I'd love to just activate a handtrap to summon a monster on my opponent's field that can't be Linked away, players these days can just link everything.
>>540327882kek
>>540326951>charge of the light brigade: 33oof
>>540327901at least they aren't as cancer as pends
>>540327850FULL PLAYSETS OF MULTIPLE CARDS??? Most archetypes with point costs have 33 on everything.
>>540328069There is like 20 floodgates that hit pends.
>>540327901they never hit the latest mechanic with those kind of floodgates anymore while its still outgotta wait for the next MR
How long until someone figures out a Telefon FTK?
>>540328340The only one really unique to pends was anti-spell fragrance
>DB has genesys ratedso why aren't you becoming the king of genesys right now?
>>540328126They also can’t link off garunix and lose promethean princess which are both quite damning.
>>540328446Telefon is 55 points
>>540328517I become ever more certain that EDO devs refusing to implement it are purely due to their backend code being a spaghetti filled mess that they are scared of modifying.
>>540328517You have stupidly high expectations, lower that useless faith stat.
>>540328471Diabellze,Imperial order, Kashtira, Macro.List goes.
>>540328734Surely it cannot be that hard to change the "1" "2" "banned" symbols to numbers 1-100
>>540328734I'm pretty sure edo devs didnt even code the game, they just modded a jap client they couldn't add genesys even if they wanted to
>>540328734>refuse to understand that people don't want to waste their time on garbage like genesyskek
>>540328367But it's been 8 years...
Genesys feels like Speed Duel without gimmick rules and having to buy new product. It's nice
>>540328517Glancing at the games going on in high ranked DB genesys is neat, they didn't update the points yet so there's still stuff like mine turbo and VSK9 fighting against generaiders, drytron, and exosisters
I hope genesyssies get raped into submission.
>>540328517I won't go there again unless they have atleast 5 judges online at all times.
>>5403290292 more years then, trust the plan
>>540327901>>540328367>>540329029For Konami. The fact Links lack this weakness helps to prevent cards like D-barrier from ever being the norm.
>>540322978
>>540328517waiting for the weekend before I become the genesyder
>>540329558KEK
>>540329151>Top match is Ghoti vs Lunalightbased?
>>540330054wait... is the format actually good?
>>540330054MAXX C HAS BEEN ACTIVATED
>>540330353of course
>>540330353Lunalight needs more hits.
>>540330654highly disagreeI wanna watch more lunalight matches we're gonna leave it right where it is
>>540330054ghotiGODS
there is a nigga in chat called smellytoesI'm convinced he's hereif you are; what the fuck?
liger dancer, it's over...
>>540330860personally I'm a fan on ygopro>db
Clearly Ghoti needs more points
>>540330654No tiger/wolf and 40 point tenki seems pretty harsh as is
I see you too Anon
>>540331118<3
genesyssies need to fuck off
Tower turbo is not fun to watch
>>540331337VV is so cringe I hope it gets a billion points increases
>>540331337It's a shame Lunalight and Super Quantal are decent in Genesys, you need to have outs to their towers in your side.
>>540331842Kaijus and lava golems are free
Stream is up.https://www.youtube.com/live/OoneKPBO73M
>>540332029why do people care about football? played as a kid sure, but why care about OTHER PEOPLE playing it as an adult?
DB should have voice chat
>>540332029can't wait to normal summon messi
Bunny shark.
rate my deck
>>540332202>>540333089I fucking hate promotions like this because you just know none of these sportsball monkeys have even heard of yugioh before.
>>540333089here's the full arts you were asking for guys
>eFootball>They're all playing Soccer?????
>>540333182This but genesys. Boomermonkeys know nothing about this game and yet they think they deserve to have their delusional be entertained?
>>540333449idk what soccer is, they're definitely playing football though
>>540333089They couldn't afford Messi so they had to settle for Neymar and Mbappe lmao
>>540327461>fartmage>do a lotlmaooooo
>>540333656That’s sad
>>540333656CAM ON NGUBU
>>540333456>BoomermonkeysThe mode isn't for them.It is for people invested into the game that would rather play a lower power format. It feels like a konamis "heavens decree" heart of the underdog format.Now that it is sanctioned and supported OTS stores can easily replicate and host it for people that are sick of the "buy 400€ deck core and staples every 2 months or get lost" shit of advanced.Now lower power strategies have a place.I don't get why this is so difficult to grasp and why people are stuck on this "boomer this boomer that" mentality.The boomer types aren't invested enough into the game to even know this is a thing.
Here's a couple DuelingBook lists that have various staples in them, with the first ones in the list being ordered by Genesys point cost - though a few totals haven't been updated just yet visually. There's a toggle below the Trap Card count that you need to turn on.Likely more cards out there to add, this is just an initial set.Handtraps:https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=18611759Board Breakershttps://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=18611925(Side deck is mostly cards for Ultimate Slayer/Extra Foolish Burial. Lilyreaper is a TCG exclusive released in Doom of Dimensions that hasn't been updated into DuelingBook's systems, so needed to use a custom)
>>540334025>advancedGet lost shillfag. There is no advanced, there is only ygo. Genesyssies like you will never get acknowledged
>>540334489>like you projecting>will never get acknowledgedno need for the acknowledgement of a zoomer
>>540334661So mad that you stopped changing your writing style to make it seems like people care huh? Genesyssies are not sending their best!
>>540334157>DuelingBook already has Genesys togglehayai...
So this new Genesys thing, how would you feel if they went and also assigned every extra deck card a base cost of 10pts? With select cards still having higher point costs on the list still but just as an addition to the base ruleset that every extra deck card is just 10pts at base as well
>>540335375We prefer you to leave. Who the fuck write genesys with a capital G? You certainly don't belong here
Wow, Pendrushmalisstrikerfag is not taking GEMERALDsys well...
>>540335375That would be shit, because the Extra Deck would devour every single point with Main Deck cards unable to compete unless their points were ridiculously low.
>>540335375>150 points on just the EDThat's stupid and this suggestion is stupid.
>>540335375Links are already gone and with it much of the toolboxing EDs provide. Xyz toolboxing is kind of quaint compared to what good decks can do in-engine. I don't see what this provides other than oldfag pandering because kids these days are always using they extra deckDoing that to links as a concession for keeping them in the format might be acceptable though.
genesyssies deserve the rope
punch genesyssies
kick genesyssies
rape genesyssies
call genesyssies niggers. captcha:
How does one get mindbroken like this about an alternate format that has existed for 2 days
>>540338779Pajeet or Indog with nothing better to do while they work their call center job.
>genesys bumped dng close to pandemic numbersthanks jerome, I guess?
True duelists only play 0 points decks
>>540338779Every game has their autists who get triggered by any major change.
>>540338779I imagine this guy is either a RUSHfag, a Pendfag, a Strikerfag, a Malissfag, or some combination of the four. They're consistently our most mentally ill playerbase and a combination of the latter three being boxed out of the format or the first not getting imported would probably cause this level of conniptions
Is there any way for western yugioh fans to not be completely deluded?
anyone on here ever wanna play DB syssie format or do you value your DB anonymity too much
>>540339310Funnily enough all four of those things got mentioned in the Starlight thread about Genesys
>>540339538Just import your deck to EDO and play in unlimited
>>540339538Lemme remember me pass
>GenesysCan I play Ice Barrier now?
You know, the instant that any sim ends up making a way you can access the Genesys banlist to modify it, we are probably going to be getting a ton of people trying to start their own custom formats based around Edison or other cardpools - in addition to those trying to get a version with Links and Pends to work. And that latter group finding out exactly why Konami boxed them out of the main format.
Just checked and all the Morganites are 0 points. I wonder how viable Stun is, or if there are any other decks that can just slot them in instead of handtraps.
>>540339926Check your Ice Barrier deck's points on DuelingBook, make any required adjustments, then test out how well it does on EDOPro.
>>540339658This.>>540339538Remember to change the settings.Forbidden List: N/ACardpool: TCGCustom Rules: Turn off Pendulum Zones and Extra Monster Zone
Why the fuck did drytron get hit so much but nekroz is basically untouched
>>540339538Im scared of playing anything that isnt goat format in dueling book because goat rulings are easy to look up and have some of them memorized but not when we are talking about advanced format.
>>540340560Drytron is decent unlike Nekroz
so at the moment, it's trial and error until enough points are given to cards to reach a "low power" environment. will this take too long? it sounds impossible
>>540340243Konami talked about on the blog that they've been using this to create Rivalry of Warlords and this Morganite Spirit deck came into existance when Genesys was sent over to KoJ. Probably been some point alterations since it was made, but it's a potential start.https://img.yugioh-card.com/en/downloads/rivalry_of_warlords/RoWMorganiteSpirits.pdf
>>540340669Without links? Without benten? Without herald? Idk chief
>look up twitter for reception on genesys>find a blacked artist talking about how he'll never play or watch the formathttps://x.com/artboiquiche/status/1971054009999081910So this is what anti-Genesysfags do...
>>540341048https://x.com/artboiquiche/status/1953944617864630731/photo/1AI could neverr
>>540340903>Use the “Morganite” Spells to grant yourself and your Spirits special boons to dominate the Duel!>If you use time tearing you can't activate SakitamaBravo
>>540339310I like Rush and I think Genesys is an neat idea. I may have preferred Rush getting an import instead, but since part of the appeal of that format is the lower power ceiling, I'm interested in seeing how this one shapes up. I guess I'm just normal
report genesyssies
>KoA gets jealous of Rush duel format >decides to make GenesysWhy couldn't they have copied Rush instead? Explain how Genesys point system is superior to Rush's limited cards?
Clear World deck in Genesys
I can’t believe KoA put points on every RUM They are unironically mindbroken by ZEXAL’s “cool factor” mechanic
dropkick genesyssies
>>540342194It's for Utopic ZEXAL. They gave him 100 points so it's to prevent one from using his alternate summon condition.
>>540342194Vector hacked into their system as his late revenge against all RUMs
>>540322978>>540329558lmao
>>540322341You mean pendtroons. Most people arent too concerned about Links being gone for the alt format.
>>540328517>manual sim>in modern Yugioh where cards have like 3 effects that can all be activated on the same turn
>>540342573Our guy.
>>540328517>DBrather deal with potential diaperfags at locals than play a shit sim
Are gemini monsters good?
>>540342901lollmao
Konami should just release a bunch of new link and pend cards and archetypes just so they can fuck over Genesyssies from getting new cards.
genesys is the first step towards an unified formatthey're gonna push it into worlds as a separate category
>>540341048Given this, do you think this guy is getting off to saying "Genysissies"?
>>540343191The opposite is gonna happen. They're gonna release more new cards just for the format and fuck over TCGcucks.
I made the broken.
>>540343519Going the Tenki + 2 Thrust route rather than Zoodiac Broadbull path?
>>540343857No Lunalight wolf = Broadbull's not doing shit. Hell i got the bad feeling making rank 4's not going to be plausible
>>540343905Minecraft tablecloth?
>>540343519Fraktall is free
>>540343905>husband>yugioh birthdayLiteral child
>>540344071I forgot to add him when taking the screenshot, pretend it's there
>>540344102Having a wife and enjoying their life is childish now?
>>540343905cute>>540343519Thrust is probably getting a reduction next update. When everything good it searches costs points too/it cannot grab Talent, it feels like a shitcard. especially if the opponent isn't handtrapping you because of how they spent their points, and it just sits there doing nothing going 1st
>>540344102UOH TOT
can we use the extra monster zone in genesys format?
>>540344380The Genesys rules are simple: 1. No Link Monsters or Pendulum Monsters are allowed. All other cards are allowed. The original field layout is used, with no Extra Monster Zones nor Pendulum Zones.
>>540344380no. it doesn't exist.
>>540343965Fair enough. Just felt that was an obligatory ask given those are both the same point costs and I swear I saw someone say that Broadbull could strongly help Lunalight by a lot even without Wolf.
>>540344203Wanting a themed party like a child is being a child. Figured you fags would defend it given the kind of people this general entertains.
>>540344329Nobody's playing this game handtrapless or without a good turn 1 board with 1 good monster effect flying, Thrust adding Heavy Poly is all i need going secondd.
New blogpost. This one on how they felt boardbreakers vs handtraps question shook out in their testing:https://yugiohblog.konami.com/2025/genesys/the-cost-of-prevention/
>>540344517That was me and i can see an argument, but i am not the labber i used to be. Playing Lunalight without Tiger is one thing, Playing Lunalight without wolf and link monsters feels so fucking alien to me
>>540344575UOH child erotic
>>540343905Sorafag....
>>540344671I want to rape the genesyssie that made this post
>>540344671>people begged for communication from konami>now we've got some faggot redditor in charge of an entire format explaining why they're imposing shit on us like it's league of legendsgive me silence any day
>>540345985Is it actually a confirmed known reddit user?
>>540346039you just know
Our bbs friends' reactions to the point changehttps://bbs.animanch.com/board/5656467/
>>540346128I mean is the identity listed on the site?
>>540344671I still feel that unilaterally handtraps are better cost investments than breakers. Something they kind of neglect to mention is the fact that basically every threatening deck has their ceiling lowered so you don't need unrespondable shit or mass removal to crack boards anymore. This is doubly relevant considering most floodgates have been booted out of the format. Handtraps effectively lower the ceilings of these decks even further while also maintaining usability going first. Point for point you're going to get a lot more mileage out of your mulcharmies or dominus cards than you would any breaker.
how is this gonna work in paper? who's gonna buy cards for genesys knowing that every single month some koa intern is gonna decide you can't play them anymore?
Killer Tune is probably a strong contender for best genesys deck, until it officially release and gets slapped with point costs at least.
>>540344671>genesyssies format inventors are also retardedIt is over
>>540346229
I see a lot of OCG players seething about the points system and shitting themselves over Link/Pendulum ban.
genesyssies coping
>>540346701yugioh has built its entire identity around making a million archetypes with unique aesthetics and gameplay and letting players find the one that they resonate with, that represents themselfso yeah no shit people are gonna have an issue with tons of decks being blanket banned for no reason because some konami localizer has a personal vendetta against them
>>540344671These articles really annoy me. I was under the impression that Konami liked or was indifferent to all decks sharing the same non-engine, but no they actually designed their Genesys system to prevent that. Why then don't they do the same in the advanced format? You keep Electrumite banned for years, but can't even limit Ash or Veiler?
>>540346845Good thing you can still play standard and super hyper mega link solitaire.
genesyssies, explain how links and pendulums are somehow incompatible with the point system
>>540346701Because only westoids love to live in the past and run away from reality
>>540346950Every good genesys deck will be using ash and veiler
>>540347007electrumite is banned in standard too lmao
genesyssies, do you honestly think konami will keep up to date with the meta and assign points regularly? they can't even deal with the ban system regularly despite obvious problem cards or non-problem decksanti-genesysfriend OUT
CASUALS DONT CARE ABOUT LINKS PENDIESyou fucking retards your shit killed Yugioh and you are not welcome for Genesys
>>540347015They’re incompatible with the no EMZ system
>>540347165nobody asked for the emz to be removed besides 1 koa intern
>>540346701All I saw were people saying that this would work better in MD
>>540347207I asked for the EMZ to be removed and I have never worked at KoA
>>540346550>buyYou're supposed to just use whatever you have in collection already.Fucking retards selling off their decks every banlist just so they can buy the new meta.
>>540347106i can already tell its gonna be annoying as fuck when TCG is 6 months dry without a list again and we're getting "genesyssie points update!" blogposts every few weeks.
>>540344671>Deck-building in Genesys is different, but it’s a good kind of different! Oh boy I fucking love corporations magnanimously explaining to me why their dumbass decisions are beyond reproach!
>>540346701Care to post any links?
>>540347382
>>540347245This.
Its a FUCKING MID TIER format retardsIts not welcoming to meta trannies or advance summons aka EMZ
>>540347309That'll be intentional to generate more interest in the new format and make the regular format look a lot more boring and stagnant by comparison.
>>540347503explain how you couldn't have a "mid tier" format with EMZ , links and pends and a normal ban/limit list
>>540347127This. Fuck that bloat shit, they're what killed Yugioh's popularity and player count.
>>540347503if you can't beat appliancer that's a skill issue
>>540347068Just like how they’ll all be using pot of greed!Oh wait….
>>540347452To what you're saying you saw from OCG players.
Honestly best case scenario is Genesys doing well enough to attract the attention of KoJ, who promptly put back all the removed cards because Japs will NOT stand for Raye being permabannedThen we can finally have a non-clown format for the first time in Yugioh history
>>540347503that's crazy, I'm watching Lunalight vs VSK9 every other game.
>>540347813Other?
>>540347746No, because pot of greed is expensive and does nothing turn 0. Ash is still the best card in the game, charmies are cheap, veiler and mourner are under half the price of imperm, and droll is practically free with how little it costs.
>>540347810But I love Clown Control..
>>540347810it's called Rush
Link as a mechanic was a mistakeYou shouldn't be able to just send your shit to the GY that easily.Your petdeck needs it? Sucks to be (You), go pick up another petdeck.
Constant and high power creep is what makes this game good.Not Konami's problem you're poor and can't afford meta.
>>540347929lavalval chain is legal
>>540347687pends are repellent for people and links are utterly busted. Yugioh lost popularity with those.Nothing was lost really , kinda feel bad for my nouvelles/vaalmonica bros tho
laugh at genesyssies
>>540347896Oh yeah smartguy? Then what would a good gravekeeper genesis deck look like? Didn’t think so
>>540347893yes, the games inbetween are VSK9 vs VSK9 or Lunalight vs Lunalight.
honestly i almost feel bad for genesyssies
>>540347985what's the next thing we're gonna cut to appeal to nonplayers?I hope its your deck next faggot
>>540348025Like shit, same as standard.
>>540347810If Gaye ever implemented into the game, I would assign Zero, Kagari and Engage 30 points each
>>540348127my deck is gravekeeper and they already butchered it with necrovalley cost and I will still play it because I’m not some metatranny who needs to win or I suicide
>>540347979I'm talking about just linking off whatever free body that you have into an interruption or to get a GY eff.That shit is stupid as a concept and basically powercrept every single previous summoning mechanic.
>>540348127>what's the next thing we're gonna cut to appeal to nonplayers?they want to sell cardboard anonWho knows maybe they buff pends in TCG
>>540348224>my deck is stunthese are the people shilling tcgslop
>Linktard already pissed, shit and cryingLmao
Why do Linktards and Pendtards think this is gonna replace the main game?It's not. You can still play whatever your petdeck is in standard.
So what are you getting from DOOD?I just ordered the MST rank 3 engine and the TB stuff, I want to play some unholy Zoo-TB-MST abomination.
>>540348230>this thing that totally happens guysanon any deck that wants its shit in the gy already has ways to get them there
>Another altformat ready to get buttfucked by thick veiny lunalight futa dickBy the time your favorite shitdeck becomes competitive, folks have either moved on or new cards give the format a belly button tickle from inside out.
One thing we can all agree on is that Sera should be an exception when it comes to Link ban in Genesys.
>>540344440>>540344434thank you guys. I was asking because I saw this youtuber playing genesys format and he was using the EMZhttps://youtu.be/97jAMkph_hc?si=PQeETzrfNZGcgGuN
>>540348401All Kaijus are free.
>>540348509How are you summoning a kaiju on the opponent's turn
Master Rule exist, you knowJust play it if you want to play Link/PendJust think Genesys as TCG's Rush Duel
>>540348347Marshmaosnot even a metafag, deck's adorable. Want them in starlight. Wish I could play consistently though. Locals is an hour away.
>>540343519Make a gravekeeper one PLEASE
>>540348460CHEATFUCKING CHEATER
Genesys tournament this Saturday?
Where you malding this bad about Time Wizard too? Duel links?
>>540348720if an Edison event banned Strator because a localizer didn't like it yes I'd mald about that too
>>540348347>packfiller Copycat and his Noble ArmMore starter for Tewart Knights>DoomZseems interesting
Non-fusion area is free btw
>>540348882Your R4 toolbox?
>>540348624Yes.
>>540348347Solfas and mst
If we have Genesys tournament, it has to be TCG only.
>>540349080wdym genesys is already tcg only
Smashing Ground/Fissure Manticore engine bros, you can use Onslaught of the Fire Kings to shit out Manticore from deck.
>>540349080Duh. Rooms already use that rule.
>>540348440And Nemleria for pendulum ban
>>540349101On EDOPro most our tourneys are with OCG+TCG+Prerelease card pool.
>>540347503Ah yes the meta threat known as Beetroopers
>>540348440Yeah. I get sad without her...
>>540349208if abyss actors were allowed they might take 1/10 games away from the new product!!!
Man, I didn't realize how many waifu archetypes were barred out by link and pendulum ban
>>540349283>level 7 DARK Dragon Normal monsterRED-EYES GODS
>>540349283Why reprint that specific vanilla?
>>540349286It's about the mechanic. Players hate them inherently.
>>540349417That wasn't reprintThat was new card
>>540349440>playersone american intern is not the playerbasemost players don't give a shit about pendulums because they're so weak you'd never even see them in real play
>>540349283>Dark Dragon Lv7 Tunerwait a minute ...
>>540348802Stratos is banned in Goat, are you malding about it too?
>>540349415level 7 DARK Dragon Normal monster TUNER, mind you
>>540349405Most of them are post link DBP decks after all, I’d miss vampire sucker and fascinator for sure
>>540349213Time to bust out the Hands and Artifacts again.
>>540349473if a GOAT event banned Chaos Sorc because a localizer didn't like it yes I'd mald about that too
ignore the EMZ's, Test hand only changes master rules only.Lunalight can pop off hard under these conditions. I'd gladly trade more direct Lunalight hits for Links and Pends to get shoved in. It's been almost a decade since links (and it's also been more than a decade for pends), the damage is unrepairable. But also it's not hard to add links into the score tally. Just slap the 100 to the badonken and banned Links (make electrumite 101 points just for the lulz)
>>540349472Dragussy.
>>540349501RED-EYES TZOLKIN GODS
>>540344671I fucking warned you retards that Genesys is just the vision of a small testing group and not some guy that has an in depth knowledge on jank decksTurns out when you let the same guys that dictate the meta design a jank format then all you get is meta liteI will commend them instantly shutting off unfun Mystic Mine bullshit but people who play jank know that there's always bullshit in every direction because Konami designed them to compete in the open meta
>>540349283>>540349472The art matches.
>>540349541If a GOAT event banned Synchro because they don't belong there I wouldn't be mad about it
>>540349678that's not what we're talking about retard
I haven't played Genesys yet is it actually any good? Can I bust out Hero Beatdown with Gemini Spark?
>>540349440>Players hate them inherentlySky Strikers is one of the most popular archetypes ever
>>540349735If it was bad in 2017 it’s worse now
>>540349735The powercreep of the last 20 years won't suddenly dissapear just because they murdered links and pends.
>>540347810Isn't Sky Striker unplayable in Duel Links? KoJ doesn't cate as long as they can sell Gay figurines.
>>540349469Pendulums and Links drove away a lot of players from the game.
damn the oh so powerful link deck known as tearlaments....
>>540349735>Can I bust out Hero Beatdown with Gemini Spark?Yeah but can you out Lunalight Liger Dancer
>>540349740The playerbase size dropped when Pendulums were introduced and when Links were introduced.
>>540349828
>>540349836So did every other summoning mechanic
>>540349698What exactly are you mad about then retard?Genesys is not replacing advanced, if you want to play pendshit or linkshit you can still play them there.This is simply an ALTERNATE format, no one is forcing you to play it just like no one is forcing you play Edison or GOAT. Just keep playing advanced if you don't like this format.
>>540349283>lvl 7 dark dragonrokketbros it's time
>>540349976Pendulum's and Link's dropoffs were way higher.
>>540349962Huh, I guess I'm misremembering.
>>540349982>Genesys is not replacing advanced, if you want to play pendshit or linkshit you can still play them there.electrumite is banned in advancedbecause this is not a decision made for balance reasons, its done because one fucking guy at koa doesn't like themand like all decisions made in the TCG retarded motherfuckers like you will deepthroat every decision made by localizers
>>540349836No easy onboarding drove people away more, you can bet your ass most of these salty bitches wouldn't give a fuck about muh links and pends if they could access top meta at OCG prices.
>>540350067>because this is not a decision made for balance reasons,no they are trying to get people to play the game again and make them buy cardboard
wasn't tear format the absolute lowest point of yugioh history where all LGS's were pretty much dead?
>>540350067Pendshit is universally disliked by everyoneEven the newest """"pendulum"""" flip deck has fuckall to do with the actual pendulum summoning
>>540350391>Pendshit is universally disliked by everyoneone localizer isn't everyone
Considering D&L is a 5 pointer, Lunalight popping off like this is not going to be commonplace. As far as testing goes, Lunalight just CANNOT play under droll at all. No Tiger Chick loops so i cannot mill the entire deck under droll and pop the fuck off.Goes to show that bunny boy is holding this game together like Atlas.
All Link/Pendulum lolis should be freed.
I like pendulums and links
>>540349980That's what happened if all fucking rouge deck got nerfed except one specific archetype has a BBC(big buff card)
>>540350194If Genesys becomes the default way to play for those people, half of all boxes are just blank pieces of cardboard for them.Any deck involving a Link or Pendulum is non-existent.Like how do you think this is going to work out for BPRO?>Rokket is a Link deck>Fur Hire is a Link deck>nuArchfiends are a Pendulum deck>Darklords very much like their LinkLiterally nothing so far hasn't been nerfed or otherwise banned. If Konami's goals were to get money, surely the way forward would be to ensure that people actually crack open product? Outright banning a good chunk of decks in each set is stupid as fuck
https://poal.me/89spz0https://poal.me/89spz0https://poal.me/89spz0
>>540350391Most of the actual playerbase doesn't really have strong feelings about pends one way or another because pends as a deck haven't been relevant in a decade plus. Not everyone has severe mental illnesses like you.
>>540350386No, that was MR4. And then 2020's covid bullshit.
Remember when you could look for any given “X decklist” on youtube and the first thing they’d do is activate grinder golem?
>AIIIIIIIIIIIII IS THAT TRAFFIC GHOST SAVE ME TEWART
>>540350616Goofy times, lel. I miss Skulldread in every deck though.
I HATE THIS CARD
>>540350741FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK BAN IT QUICKLY BEFORE IT DEFEATS LIGER DANCER
>>540350512>Any deck involving a Link or Pendulum is non-existent.Yeah? this is why there are two formats. TCG see pet deck cards as pack filler , that shit will no longer be a problem when there is a mid special olympics format for a more casual gameplan
I bought ocg an tcg perfume dancer and i honestly don't hate the censor.
IS THAT A L-L-LINK MONSTER???AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>540350882What about casual pend/link decks?
>bro its an alt format>bro you dont have to play it>bro its just not for youFind a more obnoxious group of people than these faggots. I'll wait.
>>540350512Fur hire isn't link deck, but a non-extra deck archetype with some extra deck monster supportsLike mermail, it can run without link with no problem, but adding it could add more consistency
>>540350992You
>>540350992My locals completely ignored it (Genesys) and everyone is just playing advanced
>>540350976low tier TCG at locals for fun
>>540350992>I DON'T LIKE YOUR FORMAT STOP PLAYING IT STOP HAVING FUN(You)
>>540350953TASKETE RINKU SAMA!!!!!
>>540351024>>540351085My post just wasn't for you why are you replying to it? Go reply to someone else if you want to reply.
ironically enough, Fur Hire K9 could be viable.
A real test will be when they release new meta shilled archetype.Will they just let it be unlimited and/or with very light hits, or will they try to maintain balance? I think the second is very unlikely.
>>540351002Fur Hire have 3 Link Monsters, its absolutely a Link deck>nuh uh it wasnt part of the Dark Saviors setFolgo was the first support card for Fur Hire in the main set directly after. They were absolutely intended to be a Link deck
>>540350992This is you.
fur hire is not a link deck, it's a sex deck, you use your solid vision duel disk to summon furhires and then fuck them (or get fucked by them if you're gay)
>>540351295Kys
>>540350992>bro you dont have to play itI hate this one because I actually DO have to play it because my locals dropped Advanced for Genesys. I cannot play competitive Yugioh anymore unless its under the Genesys format
>>540351331Cry more.Genesys is here to stay.
>>540350545Didn't Covid actually increase the player activity online by a huge amount?
SOVLIt makes sense why EMZ its gone , it really feels like an entire different format without pandering to old product only like Time wizard boomershit
>>540350652>>540350741>>540350772>>540350953It's not about power level, the mechanics ruined Yugioh just by their sheer concepts.
>>540351295
>>540351706Stop replying to the mentally ill
>>540351582At least read the part where anon mentioned Local Game Stores, you know, the shit that took humongous loses cause of quarantine.
>>540351610>Extra deck zoneSoulless.
>>540351024>>540351085>>540351295This.
>finally try genesys>get absolutely dumpstered by a guy on K9 Crystronok so its just the same shit?
>>540351706>just by their sheer conceptsYou mean>what if you had to go -2 to summon stuff from hand?and>what if columns mattered?
>>540351706If you can't beat Weather Painters with K9 that's entirely a skill issue.
>>540351706That's bullshit and you know it.
>>540350897Half the censored versions of things are just "what if we added an extra fetish to the art".
>>540351726No one was seething about pend or link unmpromptedMeanwhile you've been shitting and pissing your pants since Genesys announcement
>>540344671>entire format run by one discord mod
>>540351821There is no fucking way you lost to K9 Crystron when so much of their shit is pointed>Crystron: Inclusion (33), Smiger (5), Sulfador (3), Thystvern (5)>K9: Noroi (10), Ripper (20), Izuna (20), Jokul (13), Lupis (5)You can't even run 1 of each of the above without going over 100, never mind having playsets
>>540350992They do feel like trannies, they basically use the same lingo to defend their cancer.
verre is a beautiful witch.
AIIIIEEEEEEEE
Bro if Pends are banned just go play the format where Pends are also banned or against full power Maliss :^)
>>540351826>>540351927>>540351929https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AyjIFiR9EQ
>>540352323I know you're probably shitposting but the guy in charge of Genesys clearly views this shit as gospel
>>540352323That video is also complaining about being unable to just play a single monster and pass, something you also can't do in Genesys.
>>540349283Whats the lore
>>540352081Do you think animeboomers who get baited with genesys will know how to build decent decks?
>>540351826>>540351927>>540351929>>540352323
>>540352476>>540349472
>have been wondering who is this shitter who keeps shilling this genesys thingy>it is an unplayer gravekeepertranny disappointed but not surprised
>>540352270>Sonicfag came to shitpost about his shit gamePlease tell me its going to be another Genshin vs Sonic situation lmao
>>540352026Correct.>>540351726Wrong.
>>540352483So literally make up the problem in your head?Right then
>>540352512A bunch of salty retards bitching won't really convince me of anything.
>>540352263>or against full power MalissSo it's not banned there?
>>540352512Again, all of those complaints are still very much present in Genesys
so what decks are meta in genesys format or is it too soon to tell?
I don't like how weather painters are used for your disingenuous arguments. No one gave a fuck about them neither you nor konami, stop abusing them for your shit flinging.
>>540352323>>540352512>2.6 million viewsI love how harmless videos like this blow up and manage to absolutely destroy this game's potential to reach new peopleSame with how littlekuriboh's one of joke managed to destroy 5Ds' reputation in the west
>>540352750At least LK basically ruined his life so that's nice.
>>540352605>Genshin vs Sonic situationHow?
>>540352732Too soon to tellVS was support to be THE meta until the latest change
>All these random new Normals and there STILL isn't a single WIND Level 7+
Can't wait for OTHERSchads do dominate Genesys.
>>540352750But was he wrong?
This was made for Genesys. You don't need Speeder to end on multiple negates/Blazar.
>>540353124>this OCG product was made for a TCG alt formatAre you usually this retarded?
>>540350067>and like all decisions made in the TCG retarded motherfuckers like you will deepthroat every decision made by localizersThere is something kind of hilarious about the fact that banning Maxx "C" generated SO much goodwill towards the TCG that they can now get away with absolutely anything.And it shows what a ridiculous card Maxx "C" is that TCG is afloat as a format solely due to the lack of it.
>>540353124Any cards hit on the points list?
>>540352865Dorito Pope Game award show has a player vote section and Sonicfags were adamant that Sonic Frontiers deserved it. As the votes went on Genshin Impact was starting to win so Sonicfags in their infinite wisdom decided to accuse Genshinfags of botting and started making images of Sonic beheading Paimon. Someone leaked the player votes and noticed that Sonic had an unnatural bump only to have Keighly confirm it live on stream that Sonicfags botted their votes and that they were wiped letting Genshin win.
>>540353185It's getting imported in a triple character set for the TCG.
>>540352993Konami says Fuck WIND
>>540353310What if the new charmers are element specific floodgates? Wouldn't that be cool?
>no reprint for Odion.dek
>>540353196handtraps, staples>junkspeeder: 100>crimson dragon: 100>141: 91
>>540353196Speeder is 100.Crimson Dragon is 100.Dis Pater is 10.Assault Synchrons is 5.Jet Synchrony is 1. Blazar is 1. You don't need Speeder or Crimson to end on multiple negates.
>>540352659They're gonna be shitting out new banlists much much faster.
>>540353298It's getting imported, yeah, but that still doesn't mean its "made for Genesys" when it is an import of a shit OCG product
>>540353347There are only 2 new cards and we have 6 elements tho
>>540353486Then why aren't they doing that for Advanced?
>>540353206>look up if there's porn of this>there's porn of thishttps://rule34.xxx/index.php/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=genshin_impact+sonic_the_hedgehog
>>540353347I mean, if they finally gave them enough cards each to play them independently, it would be nice. At least as a little element specific engine.
>>540352943ok thanks
Making Crimson Dragon 100 is so dumb. Nobody is actually going to summon any of those 12 accel-synchros. Just make Crimson 0 and put Blazar and Sifr to something like 80 to box out Centur-Ion.
>>540353486Wish TCG had exact date for Genesys instead of vague 4-6 weeks.End of every month would be nice but how can they gather enough data to make adjustment in such a short time?
>>540353630crimson dragon should never have been printed
>>540353583Because it's a different format.
>>540353717Made by the same people for the same purpose
>>540353630>Calamity: 1sike?
>>540353486Konami would need a much, much, MUCH larger point list to remove these complaints.>Yugioh now is about ending your opponent's turn (complaint about negates and interaction)>Yugioh now is all combo shit going through most of your deck (complaint about excessive combo)>Yugioh now is all about waiting around for your opponent to complete their 25 minute turn (complaint about excessive combo)>Yugioh now is about playing during my turn (complaint about interaction)>Yugioh now is playing more than 1 monster per turn (complaint about the existence of gameplay??????)To remove the above, most of the game would need to be high pointed.
>>540353770Put him to 100 then.
>>540353759Different purpose.
>>540353827The purpose is selling you cardboard
>>540353792Just give it a few months.
>>540353960No amount of a points list is going to remove combo, negates and general interaction from the game
>>540353814>it's another Firewall Dragon / Halq again
>>540353901The balance designs and target playerbases are completely different.
Son has been awfully quiet last couple days. Or is he the person seething about pendulum ban?
>>540352750Anyone in freedom land who actually wanted to watch 5D's as it was airing most of the time had to wake up by 6AM because of its terrible timeslots, and even less people back then knew where to find subbed anime online. The flipside is that so much new anime pumped out are so plain boring, that all of the gallop shows as a large collection end up drawing in new viewers now and then in Japan compared to a lot of other old anime that isn't already very well known
>Seventh Tachyon 0 points
>>540354317Its for stundeckAnd Gay nun
>>540354120Been enough diaper posts and seething about Pends to confirm that he is still here
>>540354501Are you seriously so retarded you can't think of any other deck that might benefit from a searcher for any non-WIND Level 5 or non-WIND/DARK Level 4 that isn't also any of the 10X types?
>>540354072>The balance designsTo make you buy new packs>Target playerbasesPeople who will buy new packs
>Arclight is 50>Diviner is 33>Nadir is 33>Prep and PrePrep are both taxedMan they really don't want people playing Rituals in the "low power" format do they?
>>540355117Play fair ritual deck.
>>540355204Sure anon I'll normal summon manju and search dokurider while you play K9
>ban Evil Twins and Sky Striker two of the most popular decks from your new Format Great job
>>540355117How are the Djinns?
>>540355246Coomercucks in shambles lmao
>>540355246Just make a Rank 2, lmao.
Card games on unicycles.
>>540355246>almost every dbp waifu deck is hit in some formHAIL YUGIOHHAIL GENESYSHAIL VICTORY
>>540355645>almostWhich ones aren't?
>>540355745Witchcrafter, Exosister, Labrynth, and Centurion are all playable to some extent. Dragonmaids are also very much playable albeit weakened without Spheres. Mikanko will suffer from Diviner/Arc Light more than from Ohime. We have yet to see how many points the Kewl Tune girls will get but they don’t use links at all.
>>540351212>Meh hire has 3 links with good effects so it's definitely a link deck Wincon is still those high level furries and S/Ts, not specifically need link summoning and link interactions to get a winnable board, and they aren't designed for linkingYes links are major supports to make it less pathetic under current format, but it doesn't mean it can't run without links/pendsThat's why I mentioned mermail, it also had some new links but doesn't mean the deck relies on them to make wincon, just need to rethink its combo route with and could still play competitively
>>540355645>Kashtira is unplayable You lost
>>540356127Mermails are unplayable because you can only use 1 dragoon and 1 neptabyss at a time.
>>540356167not waifu nor BDP deck
>>540356243DBP
>>540356167>several waifu decks may be flat out unplayable due to no links or pends, and even more due to being actually hit on the list, but one engine is hit too!You lost, sister.
>>540356098>Centurion 33 points for Auxila, 5 per Primera, 3 per Trudea, 5 per Stand-Up and you are straight up not allowed to play Crimson Dragon to access your usual tools.To some extent is laughable considering the point cost to actually begin playing your deck alongside having most of your win-con just straight up gone.With this in mind, most of the Synchro 12 pool is just gone since most of them are only cheatable via Crimson Dragon within Centur-Ion
>>540356338>engineAriseheart is 97
>Ritual decks (historically trash) can't have shit>Anime decks are incomplete if you're an arc-v fan but also even boomercore shit is affected because no more links to help you (god help HEROfags, can't live a second without getting buttfucked)>Slow vanilla set 1 pass shit is unplayable because even in this low power format, you can get blown to kingdom come>Floodgates got booty banned and draw power is weak so stunfags lost their chance to finally play their grimy game>Junk Speeder = 100 because fuck Yusei or something>Gladiator Beast being hit to such severe degree as if that deck can do shit>Link and Pend decks are just gimmicky shit most of the time that even in a low power format, it'll get shat on and it's only the generic shit that makes links bonkers>Gemini is still shit, vanillas are still shit (i think primite got hit cause god forbid you have fun)Oh but Lunalight? Yeah it is perfectly fine to be pegged by two near unkillable and easy to summon bitches.
>>540356458Yeah but I’d rather play Legatia turbo than that gay shit, thanks KoA for kicking it out
>>540306520Has the Genesys tourney been pushed earlier yet like that one other poster requested?
>>540356578You will lose because your only interaction point is an uncontrollable pop that can be Ashed. That's not "playable" anymore than a random pile of legal cards is "playable"
Isn't Big Welcome, Welcome and one of the Lab bitches all 33? Playable is a stretch lole
>>540356684Trying to build Lab under these restrictions is basically impossible.
1x Zephyrus 13 points1x Boreastorm 20 points That's it. Crow won.All hail Crow, the protagonist of this franchise and 2 time World Champion!
>>540356780but paleo is allowed grass, rollback, toad
>>540356490>i think primite got hit cause god forbid you have funOnly Lordly Lode is pointed (33) you still have Ether Beryl, Drillbeam and Roar to play with for a Normal Monster deck
>>540356848Nrw
>>540356652No, I think I will win and enjoy myself actually. Also they have other points of interruption, like traps and Vengeance Dragon.
>>540356202I'm telling you that the impact of link-less archetypes with link supports doesn't mean it can't play without itMaybe mermail lost their keys under this format, does that mean other non-link archetype with link support like fur hire also fucked? Hey all non-links it doesn't get any points yetCome on, think out of the box
>>540356808based
>>540344671The tubers are happy
>>540356819Reasoning isn't cheap, and level 2 frogs aren't cheap either for good ol paleofrog, you need more cheap draw/mill techs(like needlebug, morganite and okiku) to overcome it, and these rather not as stable and effective as grass/reasoningOr try give a bang with lovely and other furnitures, part with 10 good paleos to make it more flexible on strats and recycling the limited welcome(s)
