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#6593 And Then Rescue Rabbit Was a Football/Soccer Player Edition

https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/

Previous: >>540356848

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>Banlists
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>Decklists
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>News
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>Upcoming Releases
OCG:
●World Premiere Pack 2025 (Sep 27)
●Burst Protocol (Oct 25)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 25)
●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Charmer (Jan 24)

TCG:
●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)
●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)
●Phantom Revengers (Dec 4)
●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Spirit Charmers (Jan 23)

>Events
●/dng/ Friday Night Tourney 3 (No Side Deck) (Sep 27, 1900 UTC): https://challonge.com/dngfnt3
● /dng/ Genesys Tournament 1 (Sep 27, 1900 UTC):
https://challonge.com/dnggenesys1
●/dng/ League Season 1 (Sep 28th, 1930 UTC):
https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1
● /dng/ Genesys Stakes (Oct 19th, 1900 UTC):
https://challonge.com/dngGenesysStakes
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>>540435365
isnt that just how every format is? cant even count the amount of times ive had random petdecks of mine killed by banlists hitting consistency cards used in meta decks
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the thing about genesys that makes it most different from tcg is not the lack of a banlist, and it’s not the points system
It’s the lack of links
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>>540434474
if you put a bunch of crabs in a bucket they will grab onto any crabs trying to escape the bucket to pull themselves up, inevitably resulting in pulling those crabs back into the bucket so none of them escape. A crab bucket format is a self-balancing format where any time something gets too close to getting out it's pulled back down. AKA the point system maintaining a static power balance.
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A new thread begins.
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the free neptune tournament
https://challonge.com/dngfnt3
https://challonge.com/dngfnt3
https://challonge.com/dngfnt3

has been postponed a week to avoid conflicting with the genesys tournament scheduled for the exact same time.
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>>540436213
this. No EMZ alone makes it worthwhile. It undoes nearly 10 years of consecutive mistakes.
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What were the suits thinking exactly back when Firewall was running around for that long
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Branded Dogmatika Despia Bystial featuring Ecclesia is an abomination.
It’s completely hilarious.
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>>540436640
"WE CANNOT BAN THE ACE OF THE PROTAGONIST FUCK"
you even see how he used it less and less in the anime
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>>540436328
Phew, someone actually paid attention and noticed.
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>>540436640
not enough coordination from the anime team and the ocg team
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>>540436757
Wasn't that already an established meta deck or at least rogue deck?
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>>540436640
>>540436769
Don’t forget that the new ace they made for him was accesscode talker.
He’s the only Yugioh protagonist with the strongest meta bosses today.
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Ursarctic Radiation is a card that reads crazy if you've never played a Junk Sneeder deck, and then you read Gates of Dark World, Grapha, nu-Reign-Beaux Dark World Archives, Giantrainer, Fabled Ragin, Kushano, every single Danger, etc and then you realize that every single discard deck also incidentally draws a million the difference being those decks aren't just arbitrarily putting shit into the GY for no reason sans Konami-induced insanity attaching a batshit insane cost onto every single card in a DBP deck but ploosing like it's nobody's business and to make an actual endboard and not a shittier version of a random Nekroz Ritual from years ago pass
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>>540436769
It could've been cheeky if Yusaki lost Firewall in a Shadow Game and then it was immediately on the banlist after that episode aired.
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>>540436769
That sounds like their jap autism not emergency errata-ing it after they finished making money from that set. Then 6 months later without explanation Firewall's anime effect would also be changed and barely anyone gives a shit
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The Link 1 that sets Vingolf's Blessing from the Deck and GY and pops it to Special Summon a Fairy from the hand
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>>540437142
The post-errata version would still have worked the same in every scene it appeared in previously.
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You should at least side Kaiju in this format.
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Did you DC Tony? I'm not sure what happened.
GGs anyway.
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>>540437387
I got 6 sided kaijus ready for any towers shitter
(Watch me still never draw them when I need them)
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>>540436927
The ocg card team would've been looking at Firewall long before the show started airing, they look over the important ace monsters of main characters at minimum. But maybe they were feeling like extra lazy assholes that time idk
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>>540437142
Firewall’s effect didn’t change at all. It was simply not once-per-turn in the hands of the meta players.
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>>540437525
This, lmao. This format will definitely demand you to side Kaijus against Lunalights. Another win for Cyber Dragon K9
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>>540437652
Firewall was built very early of the link-era, before the potential of them will become completely insane.
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>>540437387
I ended up having one in main because I ran out of points for the 3rd Dark Hole and my deck can't afford to discard for Lightning Vortex.
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Gay
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>>540438056
Ew, thank god this was firmly rejected in Genesys format.
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I remember some old post about a businessman who deals with jap companies and how much he hates the japanese type of corporate backwards autism and face saving
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>>540438056
Solemn Johnson outlawed this
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>>540438056
Konami of Japan's pets.
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>>540438056
I love yuri pandering
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>>540438098
Exosisters are at full power
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>Bohman dueled like 15 times
>years later the chance of hydra drives being printed might as well be double dead
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>>540438656
Exosisters are straight girls that take care of shotas.
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>firewall
>borreload for a short period
>borrelsword
>bomber dragon burn ftk's
>gumblar
>borreload savage
>accesscode
man vrains was something else
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>>540438335
reverse version of this when
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>>540438917
well they are catholic, this makes sense
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>>540438945
oh shit I forgot a few
>red reboot
>transaction rollback
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it's time
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>>540438656
Yeah but they're jewish, Konami of AMERICA's hands are kinda tied behind their back for that sorta thing
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>>540438743
>Charmers will never have tech cards
>We will never get that sickass continuous trap that lets you Scroll of Bewitchment your opponent's entire field, and change the element every turn
Oh but Yusaku's ace is too broken so we can print another for him, sure! And it can be broken, too!
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it's fucking over the dream is dead
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>>540438945
They printed a lot of completely weird stinkers, too. I'm still mad Mirror Force Launcher only works with the vanilla Mirror Force.
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>>540438743
It's amazing how much VRAINS S2 just fumbled it.
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>>540438656
false
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>>540439274
Oh cool, Last Turn is finally revealed to be a cool card meant for the final showdown between bosses and not gay AIDS shit of trying to cheese your opponent with a floodgate
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>>540438743
>dueled a billion times
>only got 2 wins against aoi and soulburner
>also had no aura, boring as fuck
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our fuarking hero is still 0 points
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>>540439376
>He wasn't even a real threat for 80% of his screentime.
>Lightning was considered the main hurdle to get over thanks to Judgement Arrows being aggressively pushed as a card despite not even being that good and also NEVER BEING PRINTED
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>Planet Pathfinder reprinted in the OCG
Time for the broken V/Quinton support.
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>>540439376
>>also had no aura, boring as fuck
That's the entirety of Vrains.
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It's kind of funny to think about how impeccably AIDS the VRAINS era was, learning that that shit nearly killed the game and was half responsible for almost killing the entire TCG market in Japan is probably one of the least surprising things ever
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Hosting GENESYS on EU casual
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>>540439487
The anime's production issues also nearly killed the anime itself.
VRAINS was a completely cursed series. Really doesn't surprise me that Konami treats Links like they're haunted.
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>>540439470
Rank 9 spam machines, please. Put them in Duel Links so he doesn't just say lines for Kozmo cards which were never in Zexal in that game anymore.
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>packfiller can now be viewed through the lens if being Geneys card
Except the fucking Link packfiller. There are plenty of shitty Link and Pendulums archetypes that are unfairly gatekept from shit deck format. We know and they know which of the Pendulums and Links are part of the problem. The pendulum problems are all already part of the conveniently named "Pendulum magicians" and the Links are all the same set of Links we've been using since release. I:P, the knightmares, the charmers and the cyberse assholes that all pay for themselves
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Give it to me straight, should I waste braincells to even ATTEMPT to make a Geneysis Genex deck with Ultimate Offering? Logic tells me it's impossible but I want to believe.
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>>540439470
>forced V/Quinton deck before Star Seraph gets a support wave
lel
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>>540439476
nah revolver and lightning were peak aura farmers, bohman was just a dead floppy fish compared to them
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they are learning about the secret meta
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>>540439641
Every card with a YCS/MD userate higher than 50%, or a YCS top cut rate higher than 20%, should be pointed. Simple as.
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>>540439871
but /dng/ said artmegia was shit like 2 threads ago...?
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>>540439308
You'd hope they could stabilize and make a 2nd season an improvement over the first, cause different tv shows managed to do that and find a better ground after s1. But arguably s2 is worse than s1 with how unfocused it could be while Bohman walks around assaulting people with his enlightened snoozery
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Trying out an abomination, hosting EU casual.
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>>540439871
Oh hey Jesse Kotton didn't know you still posted on /dng/.
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>>540439652
I dont think you can survive a turn with genex to flip this
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>>540436956
Dogmatika is rouge-ish.

Branded as a whole doesn’t even seem finished at all and normally is used as Dogmatika support.
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Surely, the ariseheart fan will bring him to the genesys tournament tomorrow...
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>>540440098
>ZeXal was liked by kids, but they bled most of the older crowd, and didn't bring in enough kids with the dumbed down rules to replace the oldfags they lost
>ARC-V had a strong start, but a sudden addition of 50 episodes completely murdered the pacing, stretched the budget thin, and this was on top of DSOD leeching most of the better animators for a non-insignificant number of episodes.
>VRAINS had so many production issues that it needed 3 recap episodes in the first 25 episodes to stall for time, it lost its own plot no less than 3 times, and ended up being such an incoherent mess by the end that even the people that watched it really aren't sure what the fuck happened.
It's really not a mystery why they decided to just ditch Speed Duels and Master Duels and go all in on Rush.
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>firewall finally gets a s synchro dragon variant
>it's just a 2300 atk extender
lmao
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>>540440597
And it will STILL be better than quantum dragon.
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>>540439274
>They fixed Last Turn for real this time
I mean, in one hand, very based. In the other it was funny as fuck to see a single card create such levels of ruling problems, lmao
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>>540439274
Reprint and unban it if it's this nerfed, cowards.
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>>540439274
Would be cool if they brought it back with PSCT and this intended ruling since it might still be a legit side deck card for Labs.
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>>540440932
regardless of the nerf this is still a cringe alt wincon
leave it banned
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>>540440561
Japanese audiences and Western audiences had different reactions to the same series.
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>>540441124
you're cringe
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firewall f 2300 atk extender when?
firewall f 2500 atk boss when?
firewall s 2500 atk boss when?
firewall x 2300 atk extender when?
firewall r 2300 atk extender when?
firewall r 2500 atk boss when?
borreload ss when?
borreload xx when?
borreload rr when?
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>>540440475
>3 level 7s
>Alt Summoning via a specific Rank 7 using one of its effects
I didn't play this meta. How do you get this faggot on board without Fenrir or Unicorn?
Special Ogre, Special Riseheart, Riseheart Effect to banish another copy from deck to make it Lv 7, overlay for Shangri-Ira, then...what, Dark Hole yourself and detach for Shangri-Ira effect, and then summon Arise-Heart?
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>>540440561
>>It's really not a mystery why they decided to just ditch Speed Duels and Master Duels and go all in on Rush.
Per recently revealed information, I think that more has to do with Kaz wishing Yugioh as a brand could appeal to kids again like it did during Zexal. Gallop imploding and switching to Bridge also left Sevens with a shoestring budget
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>>540440475
I'd play him Drulers if all the rulers weren't on the list for some fucking reason.
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>>540441124
>only designed metagame cards are allowed to win
gay
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>>540441195
The high-ranked Naturia player on DB playing Genesys was using Fenrirs.
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>>540439274
Lower the points for it then it shouldn't be 75 points without the autowin combo.
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>>540441195
>Dark Hole yourself
dark hole costs points nigga
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>>540441195
with a rank-up deck
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>>540441181
>>540441287
Do you really want labs to flip this into you when you're on a deck with no main deck 3k beaters?
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>>540441195
>How do you get this faggot on board without Fenrir or Unicorn?
Dragon Rulers, but not possible inn Genesys format
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>>540441358
all rank-ups cost points
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>>540441358
Weren't the RUMs all hit?
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>>540441440
Lab can flip much worse shit than this, if they're down to 1000 LP or less they've already lost.
Lab will not be relevant either way.
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>>540441440
you were saying?
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>>540441578
>>540441630
you know what fair game, bring it back.
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>>540440561
Arc-v never had an unexpected extension and you can tell from the way the show is split in major thirds, 5D's and Go Rush were the shows that received an extension. The most unexpected part was Ono deciding to take the Symphogear director job right in the middle of Arc-v. Animators can be important for lasting impact of scenes, but ultimately it only matters in Yugioh if they do what they're told even when they're not great at drawing it. The writers' biggest failures during Synchro was their bad ideas for antagonists and using them, Yugioh anime really suffers when the antagonist side fucking sucks for a long time. It's almost weird that Yuri was as entertaining as he was when the writing of everything else was so broken. Even Yusho had a fairly dignified duel compared to his overall irrelevance.

Also I think the 3rd season of Vrains while it had several 'phantom images' of how SOL would've been a much bigger player if it was longer, actually comes out as one of the most watchable sections because they were forced to shorten it down to narrowly focusing on Ai and how he kept trying to excuse himself on acting out his resentments because he had nothing left to lose anyway and had a full step plan to die. The first season is nothing special outside of the ideas they had to connect Revolver to everything, Revolver's presentation, and Yusaku at least having his anger to him instead of like... nothing. But at least the goals were mostly pretty clear and simple to know
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>>540441324
Yeah but you can't use Fenrir with Arise-Heart.
That's 127 points.

>>540441358
With what RUM? I checked Astral Force, since it's 1 point, and there's no Rank 5 Dark Machines.
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>Erosion'd for my life savings
GGs Grey. Perhaps blind seconding is not the way to go.
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>>540441921
>With what RUM?
phantom knights launch?
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lunalight ruining yet another format, as if advanced, worlds, and common charity weren't enough
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Great format, Tewart lmao
Revenge for my Gimmick Puppets and that Samurai imbecile
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I found my ooooold Gadget R4 deck.
I can't wait to stack Ultimate Offering in Genesys like the good old days, but what should I do to modernize the extra?
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>>540441478
>>540441507
>>540441921
>>540442124
The OCG has been using this with K9 to summon Ariseheart.
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There are way too many core archetype cards with point restrictions. You never actually get to choose what your 100 points go towards when you need to spend them all on the crucial card that makes your deck function.
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Just took a Tylenol and now I have an intense urge to deckbuild a genesys list, give me the forbidden techs.
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>>540442764
take your pick
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>>540442764
just play zoodiacs
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>>540435472
Are you guys enjoying Genesys format so far?
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>>540442679 (Me)
It goes without saying, you use another deck instead of K9.
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>>540442815
I already know about all of these though.
I need the REAL forbidden techs.
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>>540440932
Is that Yujiro Hanma
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>>540442764
just break the format with some stupid FTKs, they will end up changing text of all the burn cards eventually to half like in Duel Links
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>>540442391
> Red Res FTK burn
>no Serial Spell
bitch you're not trying hard enough
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>>540443061
Then KoA will make all the burn card to be 50 point
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>>540442679
Aaaannd... is that card searcheable, or...
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>>540442964
Put the fear of god and jinzo flashbacks on yugiboomers with this card
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Hosting Genesys EU Casual
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>Make Granguinol send the dark Kaiju
>Make Arthalion add back the Kaiju to out the lunalight tower
I think I'm cooking
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I wonder how much tewart paid to get this disaster of a pack mentioned by gamestop
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>>540443580
specifically so, it always make me laugh that the infinitrack spells don't have infinitrack on their names so konami had to put specific searchers
heavy forward isn't even searchable
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>>540442964
Fissure + Smashing Groundd Manticore
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>>540443689
Silence, Linksissy
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>>540443689
>Pendtroons still raging
KEK
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>>540442764
linkless altergeist
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>>540442964
>against GY decks
Shooting Riser Dragon mill Keldo/Mudora
if you play Dis Pater, you can summon Banisher of the Light/Radiance from the banished zone, mill them with Shooting Riser or Vingolf's Blessing, this last one is enough if you can pop it
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>>540443627
Fuck i said jinzo i meant gorz.
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>>540443580
Searchable off Crab Crane which is searchable off river stormer
No links makes the combo a bit harder to do (you could just tribute river stormer, search, make the link 1, resummon river stormer, and then outnigger) but there's probably a deck that can still do it
93 cost is rough though, if it was 50 or 40 it might be a build around and Kahs would still be unplayable
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>>540442815
>Reaper
>When you have to spend points on your opponent's ED monsters to make it usable
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>>540435472
how do I get rhis rescue rabbit. What is efootbal
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>>540443851
>>540444009
OCG techs are hilarious sometimes, If Ariseheart wasn't banned I would be making this in Cyber Dragon K9
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>>540441195
The detach isn't an activated effect btw so that's not even legal
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>>540435472
>>540444118
like is it a physical card I can get
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How did I forget about Magnum the Reliever. This would be a great way to recycle stuff in Gensys Fluffals. I really need to look thru my bulk.
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>>540444196
>if Trannyheart wasn't banned
Thank god it is banned, trannies deserve nothing
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>>540443851
Konami made them all non-archetypal names so it means they could spend less time coming up with Infinitrack cards that could be theoretically useful and more time printing a bunch of garbage that searches each backrow
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Genesys saved /dng/ jesus christ it's been like constant activity since its announcement
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>>540444354
they forgot to limit Fenrir, though. amazing how that little shit managed to slip through the cracks
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>>540444118
play master duel
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>>540444536
Gensys is giving petdeckers a reason to look over their deck again without worrying about most of the current meta decks.
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Genesys does what Master Don't
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>>540444346
Reminder this poster wears and shits in diapers
>>540444572
>play trannyduel
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Do you prefer to use a majority of your points for 1-2 broken cards or get a balanced amount of 4-5 good cards? I really like the sound of 2x graceful charity and 20 points left to use on anything else
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>>540444902
my deck makes me spend all its points on the core so I have nothing leftover for staples sadly
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>>540443729
Now I realize that I don't have any outs to Liger Dancer in Agents, searcheable Droplet is useless
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>>540440027
As a branded player, I said that Artmage has a lot of insane cards make me confused on why anyone tries to downplay them over the “I can negate” logic.
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>>540444901
Of course pendtroons would be into waterplay and scat
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oh the british are awake
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>>540445037
at 3am?
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Hazy Flame support FUCKING WHEN they should have made some to shill the Fire King structure
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>>540445037
British like Pendulums so they hate Gensys
>>540445058
Its diapercord blaming them, Sorartranny posting should have tipped you off
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>>540445058
yeah
pretty common for NEETs
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>>540444902
I want to play the bonken. It feels like a waste to use an underpowered version of my petdeck.
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>>540445136
I want to believe in Selection 10: Genesys for revamping the cores old ass decks that never got support, shitty decks that need some bandaid support, and non-link decks that got fucked over by the link/pend ban
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>>540445037
Hilarious how quickly he shifted from randomly seething about rush to randomly seething about genesys.
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>diapercord are the pendtroons
lmao
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>Kelbek and Agido both 50 points
what can you play with them?
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>>540444946
I've been thinking about painful choice because it's pretty much a win if it resolves...but it's still a hard draw and it's not worth losing out on more consistent but weaker alternatives
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>>540445403
so you'd say that playing it is a...
difficult decision
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>>540442710
Most of my decks are totally unhit.
But I suspect that just means I play really shitty decks.
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Dragon creatures.
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>>540445350
I’d say Vernusylph but they’d rather run Mudora (1pt) so you have to pick one.
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>>540445308
Glad I'm not the only one who realized it feels like we've just gone back in time to when Rush was first announced/released
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You can tell Genesys is good by how vehemently pissed the most annoying people on /dng/ are about it
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>>540445516
...go on
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>>540444902
I've been investing into the strategy of 0pts + Handtraps. I figure I may as well be part of the problem if Konami's not going to solve it.
I will be scaring off every casual beaver warrior faggot that tries to play this game.
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>Gofu is completely free
So that’s why they don’t have pends
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>>540445058
Maze's shift usually starts up at 10pm, its like clockwork.
He's probably one of those "goes to bed at 8am, wakes up at 6pm" kinda NEETs
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>>540444902
Handtraps with a free mid deck is optimal, the blowouts they didn’t give points to are more than enough to get by with
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>none of the eldlich cards have points
it's TIME
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>>540445871
all the good floodgates got the points instead
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vell on his boyperiod malding that he can't play spirit with eyes of blue and protector whelp in genesys
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>>540445585
Mudora and Keldo are lovely in Verns, people really forgot how annoying is to have 3 GY pieces fucked with at once. Also now in Agents I will be siding them for extra GY hate
> very controversial take: I unironically think either Kelbek or Agido could now be unbanned at 1, but just at 1 and only one of them
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>>540444572
Is it a physical card or digital only
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>>540446000
Erm, Genesys bans all pend monsters thoughbeit
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>>540445871
>Skill Drain 100
>Summon Limit 100
>There Can Be Only One 100
>Imperial Order 100
>Anti-Spell Fragrance 100
>Varudras 20
>Chaos Angel 20

>can’t link off Fallen Angel

Why would Eldlich need points?
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Hosting again, genesys EU casual
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>>540445350
Tearlam-
>Havnis 50P
>Merrli 50P
>Schieren 50P
>Reinoheart 50P
>Kitkallos 50P
.....nevermind
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>>540444902
My thought process goes something like:
Anything above like 60 is not worth playing unless it lets you ftk or pseudo ftk
33ers are acceptable if they're easily accessible as one ofs ie in my Dragon Ruler Primite deck I can afford a Lode since Beryl is easily searchable.
I can stomach one playset of 20ers before wanting to kill myself
Really powerful extradeck pieces are generally worth 10 or 20 points but each deck will realistically cap out on 1 or 2 of these.
Then fill the rest with handtraps depending on the remaining cost. If there's not enough cost to fill out the deck with good handtraps (Crow is a good freebie, Meister is borderline) then just play a few strong quick plays.
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Does meta have enough good targets to see play. Definitely some good toolbox cards.
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>>540442815
battle fader has been powercrept
there's also infinite antlion that you can search with retaliating c
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>>540446071
master duel is digital, so no word yet if they'll print it
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>>540446294
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>540446247
Trains can use it.
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>>540446085
I would bet on Mischief of the Gnomes/Yokai, even if they're not Continous Traps. they both can fuck both Synchro and Xyz decks inmensely
>Powersink Stone also hit
damn
>>540446137
In a better world all of those got banned
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So how does mathmech sigma work in genesys?
Because I notice its been given a points cost, but at the same time it specifically mentions the extra monster zone and it doesn't exist.
What's the dealio?
Also lmao cyberse way as well not exist at all in this format
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>>540446150
For me, if it costs 10 or more a copy, it either needs to be core to my strategy, shut my opponent out of their strategy, or be a 1-of tech card.
I'll put up with a single Reborn or a Cyber Jar, but if it's coming in at multiple copies with that kind of cost, it needs to be either the kind of card that sucks my deck or the kind of card that makes my opponent flip the table, storm out of the LGS, and make a protracted hate thread on Twitter/Reddit about how "Yugioh is ruined".
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>>540446256
in the same way gameciel is there to represent all kaijus, battle fader is mainly there to represent all stall cards, like swift scarecrow, thundering roar and gorz
but I'll definitely consider this guy
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>>540446306
I need them to…. Konami pls
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>>540446256
>quick effect destroy
>continues attacking your face
that thing is not the same as fader
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>>540446085
I love this format
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>>540444902
>Do you prefer to use a majority of your points for 1-2 broken cards or get a balanced amount of 4-5 good cards?
Unless the card(s) are pretty good to justify their costs and help your deck's downsides I'd say aiming for 4-5 cards with some ED space is probably best. Currently running into the issue that 2x Patchwork and x1 Chimera eats nearly all my points. Going to be interesting to see workarounds for cards you can't pair together without eating all 100pts.
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>>540446523
There are physical copies of it but only for promotional purposes so far. No idea if it they will mass release it.
https://ygorganization.com/rabbitsplayfootball/
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>>540445871
The whole reason Eldlich was ever good was it's ability to run every floodgate imaginable with zero downside to yourself. Every floodgate is at 100 so Eldlich loses it's entire purpose.
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>>540446549
emisary deals with zeus plays
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>summon heroic champion gandiva
>can physically hear the cogs in my opponents head grind to a halt as i just snipe the first thing they special summon
this format is awesome
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>>540446428
I'm pretty sure it's basically just soft confirming that it does work in Genesys format since the answer to the Sigma problem is
>Why would there ever be a monster in a zone that doesn't exist?
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Please god help me with this deck so I can finally play Genesys already
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Anybody try Combat Stars yet?
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>>540446428
If they allowed EMZ stuff to summon anywhere we suddenly have a huge Runick problem.
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>>540446810
starlight road sekrit tech?
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Insect slop is pretty shit without links. The insect lock is brutal. The resonance insect/ retaliating C engine barely works without links. Can't make the 12 and Heavy Calvary without specific hands that die to any hand trap. I think this has to be a go second OTK deck. Pretty easy to make Rhinosebus using a rank 5 or 6 if your forced to go first.
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>>540444902
It really depends on the deck. I built resonators and all they need is a single copy of dispater, so you can shove a fuckton of handtraps into the deck, but facing off another 0 point deck with handtraps is probably miserable and would result on nib token or scarred with either fiendish golem or red zone pass.
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>>540446648
I want the rabbit so fucking bad FUCK
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>>540446810
-descendant or maybe keep 1
-recruiter
-spy
-stelle
-rite of spirit
+ good cards
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>>540446870
...for Mimighouls
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>>540446860
Sigma doesn't summon to an EMZ zone, he simply summons himself if there are no monsters in the EMZ
Since the EMZ doesn't exist, no monsters exist within it, therefore he's just a free summon for Mathmech
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>>540446682
>zeus
bruh if it gets popped by an effect you're still getting otk'd
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>>540446680
eldlich is still decent even without floodgates
>removal on legs that keeps coming back every turn
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>>540446810
extrav maybe? or reference the list >>540442815 for control/stun/consistency cards
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>>540446860
It ha nothing to do with Runick.
People had questions about Mathmech Sigma because it needs to check if the EMZ is empty even though there's no EMZ in the first place so I guess they ruled it so that it still works even if the EMZ doesn't exist.
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>>540446247
100%, there's a ton of shit that you can use that's either cheap or costless, it definitely has a home somewhere.
Branded would play it if the deck wasn't so high cost for your core cards for example.
There's some decent 8s to cheat out like Fillia Regis, Borreload Furious, Crystal Bell, Earthbound Geokraken and Dragosteplia come to mind.
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>>540446869

how does this work
>>540446935
So basically remove all of the gravekeepers from the gravekeepers deck and add Maliss is what you’re saying
>>540447035
I haven’t in a decade so I have no idea what of these cards would have synergy with this outdated and frankly ass deck that I need to play.
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Pure Mitsurugi feels perfectly serviceable in Genesys format. Droll might be a mandatory side/main card soon
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>>540446115
still hostin'
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>>540447138
>randomly bringing up maliss
who hurt you
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>>540446247
You can actually summon Hugin in Runick Spright with this.
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>>540447138
>maliss
>in genesys
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>>540447246
LMAO
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>>540446810
>Malefic stardust
Anon I know you don't want to lose to MST but please reconsider.
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>>540447246
>needing to use Metamorphosis to make Hugin
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>>540446810
GK cards are so outdated
you need new shit
try looking into
>cartesia+geneic spellcaster fusions
>dracotail+fusions
>dominus cards
>dogmatika cards
>morganite cards
>regenesis cards
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>>540447143
Prayer and ritual are both at 60 so you can't run both.
This leaves you with 2 builds, spend 30 points for pre-prep or play rank 4 turbo deck and spend your 33 points for feral imps.
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>>540447335
It was recommended to me and tbqh I dont see why I shouldn’t run it. Seems good for keeping necrovalley up and it’s literally a free summon
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>>540447246
holy fuck
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>>540447246
If you ever need an otk, id recommend you purrely plum + dragon gate.
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is voiceless voice playable?
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>>540447430
Yes but I WANT to run GK. It’s fun. I just want it to be as good as I can make it, I’m not entering YCS w it
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>>540447138
Removing the bad Gravekeepers while keeping the good ones is how you build a deck, yeah.
That way you can actually see the good cards and do plays instead of set spy pass as if this was still 2004. You can fill the rest of the deck with draw cards so you actually find necrovalley/spiritualist, additional interaction since one ash 1 droll isn't gonna cut it, or another engine that synergizes with the Gravekeepers.
Malefic Stardust was only used back in NecroDrain since it was still a free beater under Skill Drain and Skill Drain + Necrovalley was a pain to deal with back in like the early dinorabbit days but Malefic Stardust by itself isn't nearly enough.
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>>540447556
yes
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The more I think about combolines in Genesys the more I desperately want a wave of good Ogdoadic monsters for Evol Ogdos
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>>540447246
>Duality and Metamorphisis to get to Hugin
Holy shit
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>>540447573
i used to run this with magicalized fusion/quintet magician
you can also use magistus cards and superpoly with the predaplant fusions
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Please by god don't let the new charmer support be link crutches.
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>>540446810
>>540447138
I was gonna help and post my GK skeleton but that autistic chimpout makes it clear you really don't want actual help.
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>>540447449
The problem is that it's super narrow and pretty easy to out before then blasting an MST onto your valley.
It kind of works and it's not that bad but if it's cards number 43-55 in a deck with 5 field spells you should reconsider.
You should consider side decking it though, most people don't mainboard dedicated backrow removal which is the main thing Stardust stops but post board it might actually matter.
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>>540447581
Dino rabbit was in fact the last time I actively played. As I said though it doesn’t need to be a meta crushing YCS championship deck, I just want it to work in this format
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Funnily enough Earthbound Runick can easily get access to the field spell, without uh, Metamorphosis/Duality cope
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>>540447868
biggest vrains jobbers
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>>540446729
Absolute Crusader and Justice Bringer will eventually see play too, I think
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>>540447886
It's not gonna work if you're using the bad GK cards like spy or rite of spirit, even back in dinorabbit GK decks didn't run those.
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>>540447823
>OCG game original deck support
You know it will.
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>>540447904
Geokraken is pretty based like that. It also doubles as an option for metamorph/duality cope too.
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>>540447246
>Duality for Huginn
I knew that tech would eventually see fringe play ever since the reverse card got printed
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>>540447818
>mfw all these words mean nothing to me
going back into this game is fucking brutal holy shit
>>540447882
I moved supernaturalist and malefic up a deck for a clearer picture.
>>540448048
Spy to me seems solid, and rite of spirit would be good for descendant to pop recruiter for a free mon, or pop a freshly flipped spy and reset in face down defense
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>>540447823
the 2 new cards will be the missing channeler versions
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His format
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>>540448190
Duality is an awesome card like that. It's just waiting to accidently break the game once konami forgets about it.
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Not sure what to do with the last 10 points here.
I've done some consistency testing with this, and it actually does pretty good, but Charity feels like half the time I don't have anything to discard. Might ditch it for Reborn or something.
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>>540447839
Sad thing is that nobody will ever believe this because GK is unplayable in Genesys. Anyone trying is a terminal fool and will quit the hobby after getting FTK’d three games in a row
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>>540447823
I guess a contact fusion can still happen. The links are attribute supports more than charmer support.
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>>540448407
what the actual fuck is this deck
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>>540448350
*Activates Heavy Poly*
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>>540448407
Is this.. primal seed loop?
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>>540448350
>playable in Naturia and Dragunity
thanks Yuto
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>>540448282
Dharc and Lyna aren't that popular. Especially with the promo for the Charmer support being the 4 OGs, that makes it even less likely.
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>>540448270
There is NO FUCKING WAY a boomer of this caliber is trying to waltz into genesys lmao. This is worse than blue eyes fags in standard
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>>540448436
I built mine as Royal Tribute turbo but you could play a "regular" version if you really wanted to.
Got sworn at by an italian on DB when I played it though but that's expected.
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>>540448270
spy is just too slow for the current game
you need a lot more defensive cards if you want to make that deck work
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Charmer needs a link 1 that counts as all attributes, summons a charmer from deck and be able to send cards from the opponent to GY
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>>540448651
>Charmer needs a link 1 that counts as all attributes
Oh hey, I know that move!
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>>540448472
>>540448556
It is a Chaos Cyberse Photon Synchron Deck
A drunken orgy between Cyberse and Synchro that got out of hand, lost their links, and sides GEPD to fuck over all the staple Xyz that are coming back.
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>>540448572
channeler cards for light/dark decks are something that could be very good
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>>540448514
Crystal Wing is specifically designed to skullfuck Lunalights
>b-but muh Liger ef-
Bend over
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>this guy is $600 a copy
damn
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>>540448613
This sounds more like a mill than GK deck.
>>540448635
>change all monsters to face down
>graveyard any face up
Wouldn’t any card resisting the first effect also resist the second (like supernaturalist)? What am I missing here
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>>540448880
That doesn't sound anything like mill.
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>>540448845
Kaleido Chick Domain Expansion on battle phase
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>>540448880
>Wouldn’t any card resisting the first effect also resist the second (like supernaturalist)? What am I missing here
the second effect affects the player so it works on unaffected monsters
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>>540448880
>Wouldn’t any card resisting the first effect also resist the second
No because it affects the player instead of the monster
Daruma Karma Cannon will send the monster even if they're unaffected
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>>540447442
You lose to droll anyways so you definitely use pre-prep. Mirror ritualing from the GY gives the deck a lot of legs. Even without prayers you can still end on the other quick spell and the negate trap. Its like 4 interruptions. Deck recurs, OTKs, outs towers, etc. I think it's super well positioned in the format
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>>540448864
You faggots told me rush duel is waifu heaven. What the fuck is this
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>>540448864
that doesn't even look like a ygo card
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>>540448864
dark magician (white magician)?
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>>540449127
You only have 9 starters including pre-prep though. Saji isn't a starter anymore because you don't have prayer.
Yes when it gets going it's really strong but you just don't have enough starter if you don't lean into the feral imp rank 4 build.
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>>540449079
>>540449047
After reading it a few more times with this info I still don’t get it but I appreciate the attempt.
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what is bro cooking
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>>540448864
His gender bent version would go crazy
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>>540448635
>>540449047
>>540449079
I really hope I get to cook something against Liger in Agents because so far it boils down to Thrust searching Black Goat Laughs, this and Dimensional Barrier. hoping you get to draw a Kaiju out of Mulcharmies sounds delusional
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hosting genesys eu casual
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>>540449385
Drytronchads what is this concoction
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>>540449406
bro you have people here trying i make gravekeepers work, you should be waking up and thanking god every morning that it isn’t you
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>>540449352
3 Lamia, 3 preprep, 3 white, 3 habakiri. You can also hard draw pretty much any combination of ritual and ritual monster to start playing since they all search each other
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>>540449385
apparently it was this
I feel underwhelmed
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>>540449570
is that
a singular negate?
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>AMC was training /dng/ to play Genesys
Honestly, I didn't see this plot twist coming.
I plan to abuse Neos Fusion.
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>>540449663
That's though 2 handtraps
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>>540448864
Handy Lady's new art is about half his price.
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>>540449537
You know what, you're right. I just want to have something built in-engine to out it. So far I can make it work against Yummy, Dracotail, Stryker and K9. Lunalights just keep escaping my ideas when it comes to this deck
>>540449570
>Recital Starling
huh?
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>>540449613
I wish I was a little scrunkle like Poplar so two beautiful women would fight over me.
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>>540449560
You know what, maybe pure Mitsu is actually good.
I don't know if it's better than decks that can spend points on non-engine though.
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>>540449570
>didn’t even use dinosaur fusions for Lars
what is the point of this deck
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>>540449927
>>Recital Starling
yeah he just searched d.d crow idk what that was about
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>>540449570
my boy magical scientist could 100% do something better than that
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>>540449406
You can make chengying, right? Just banish 8 cards bro shouldn’t be too hard
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>Cyber-Stein only 27 points
Is there anything cheeky he can just spit out or was it all taxed to hell like exterio?
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>>540449406
Can Agents make PEP?
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>>540449406
Do you have some way to grant your monsters protection? You could try fucking Gachi Gachi Gantetsu like it's 2012
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>>540450282
20 points
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>>540449406
Chengying and then you play Gachi Gachi Gantetsu to help boost Chengying to try and beat over the Liger Dancer
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>>54045025
Inb4
>74 points
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It's kind of incredible how fucking annoying Liger Dancer is
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>>540450219
Yeah, I can make Chengying.
>>540450282
Theorically yes but it sucks in practice, Majesty Hyperion or Accel Stardust + Destruction Venus. you really want Hyperion in the GY quickly to Link climb
>>540450594
>>540450712
>You could try fucking Gachi Gachi Gantetsu like it's 2012
>pic rel
I can't believe we're going back to the classics, thanks everyone
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I do not know what I am doing.
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>>540450928
If all else fails, side in the turtles.
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you're all missing the "idea" of genesys, which is not to play boomer decks but to use the point system to mindgame your opponent
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Hosting EU casual for Genesys.
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>>540451026
LennySTACIES
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I have no idea how this new format works, but I got to stick to my guns.
I'll do a point check later, but I think this is good.
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What do I even run if I'm not using any points? Just throw in handtraps?
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>>540451273
yeah
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>>540451273
Hand traps, board breakers, or pot of greed.
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I feel bad for red-eyes fags, it’s 10x as link reliant as any other DM deck
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>>540451253
No Links so you should replace that Phoenix with Tornado Dragon
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>>540451253
Protip is to run veiler over imperm and save a few points, you could fit dragite or something in
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>>540451195
post THAT webm
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>>540451614
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Limiting my Party and my fusions. You can't stop me. I don't need no hand craps.
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>>540451807
>1 King
Bro just let it go
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>Shaddoll Fusion is free
>Only two fusions with points are Winda and Apkallone
WTF? Why didn't anyone tell me that?
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>>540451736
Yup, kino
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>>540439871
Considering picking up a core, but it costs too much and Medius looks so lame for being the core guy.
Wish they made some gigachad like Endymion the protagonist of this one.
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>>540452209
I don’t speak cringe
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>>540452209
>you can just straight up play invoked dolls but without caliga
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>>540452259
And they mean digital, not physical
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>>540451736
This is what Boomers think Genesys will be
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>>540448350
isn't chaos angel just better?
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>>540452747
Chaos Angel is not a negate
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>>540448864
>black border and black star
what the fuck rush has xyz already?
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Any 0 point card that can deal with Exodia FTK?
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>>540452815
monster negate is overrated
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>>540448864
the attribute symbol fitting into the art is sick as hell
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>>540452932
no, buy droll
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GGs anon, Fluffals are always so scary, feel like I'm not safe until the end turn button is clicked.
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>>540452891
No.
Just an effect monster with special black border.
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>>540453062
Strange, I felt nothing but secure when facing them
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>>540453062
you beat me 4 times in a row I don't think you have much to fear lmao
GGs though
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>>540453062
This is how GKs feel against every other deck
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>>540453172
Stunsissies should never feel safe
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>>540453042
My engine costs 99 points, I CANNOT afford it.
Why are they even allowing that FTK legal anyway?
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>>540453120
>>540453153
It's probably because I still don't know what the deck does. It spins it wheels, has a 9 card hand and then I'm OTKd somewhere along the way. A lot of bad memories that never got updated I guess.
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>>540452259
That's not too bad honestly. Better than buying sealed product for Lost Arts.
>>540452473
But they have sent out physical copies to stores already.
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You know the lore about Dogmatika monsters becoming Despians?

I think what they will do this under the “Must first be Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) by tributing 1 LIGHT Spellcaster monster whose original ATK equals its original DEF”. Since Dogmatika normally does use the ED to link off Ecclesia or another monster in order for Ecclesia, Chaplin, and the new Fleurdelis to special summon themselves from the hand.
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>>540453635
Gotta try her out in Genesys
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>>540453635
S-Force should become a non-link archetype
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>check out some over rush rares
>sevens road ultima witch
>rush duel already has cheatsion by shuffling into deck
lmao what the FUCK
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Now that genesys is a thing they can finally print link spells.
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>all those no-link no-pend hosters were just practicing for genesys
I kneel
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>Sekka's light is 0 points
We're so back
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>>540451410
It is pretty funny how bad cards like these become when you don't have linkspam as an easy outlet to getting them into the GY
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Genesys is going to force TCG tochange to be more appealing specially the YCS prizes
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>>540453917
I’m confused. You didn’t know that Rush Duels does contact fusion now?
The harpies deck in particular only had contact fusion monsters.
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take genestacies to an oasis
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We need another general so all of you genesys spinoff tourists can fuck off so the rest of us can talk about the real game and not that babymode sissy shit.
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>>540453917
Rush doesn't have banishment.
Miracle Fusion got changed to shuffling into deck.
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you can just filter the world genesys and move on with your life, retard.
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is main decking skull meister or dd crow even worth it in genesys? doesnt seem like theyre as universally strong as other handtraps in this format
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Hey Genesyssies, I heard you wanted a 0 cost handtrap.
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>>540453917
it's been like a year since they got contact fusions but its fair since they shuffle themselves into the deck so you can't use them from the grave
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>>540454596
loses to deadnamer
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>KoJ posted official decklist for Mimighoul
>only one Treasure Panther
Are they stupid or what?
Panther is easily a 3-of
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Throw a surprise birthday party for a genesyssy when they thought everyone forgot and make them very happy
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>>540454563
side decking them is 100% worth it, very little downside
I'd only main if i was desperate to fill space
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>>540454721
>also
>fucking Mimighoul Fork at 2
Jesus this list is so fucking bad
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>>540454563
0 cost handtraps are pretty valuable but they'll probably be side deck cards because they're not omega universal like Ash is.
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>>540454094
It's unlikely they will unless Gensys brings in big numbers. I do like that they're letting you pick your own Giant Card if you win though. Have they even announced anything beyond the fact that YCS Anaheim will have a Gensys Invitational?
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>>540454563
You're better off using generic quick-plays like Final Bringer/Book of Lunar Eclipse.
Even kaijus seem better than blindly maining crow or meister.
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>>540454596
Which deck summons a 2k starter from ED?
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/dng/ quick i have 39 points left to spend in a deck
whats the most degenerate shit i can add
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>>540455506
Drop one point and add necrovalley
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>>540455506
Triple imperm
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>>540455506
How many slot do you have in your main or ed
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Ze Amin's wife.
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>>540455506
3 purulia and meowls
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>>540455804
this guy's name is literally the 3 most asian words in history
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>exodia completely free
>royal magical library: 100
They can't stop all my draw engines.
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>>540457495
Source?
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Should I main board breakers and plan to go second Game 1 and side into handtraps, or should I main the handtraps?

Also for those who are playing decks that can make Synchro 8s, they missed Synchro Zoroa being an ED floodgate. Need to dedicate a bit of space, but it has some nice overlap with Ultimate Slayer - even if you do want a couple other targets for that.
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YGO needs to up their beast-warrior game
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give genesyssies hugs and let them know they matter
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How much can trap staples and handtraps carry my brick deck?
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>>540457826
Going second is underexplored in the format atm and has potential but I don't think this is the deck to be doing it with. You should most definitely be cramming handtraps and flex cards like quick plays.
Also, genuinely, is Auxila even worth the points? Maybe the most low impact card to be hit that hard.
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>>540457003
The issue with cards is that Yugioh’s drawing rules make it necessarily to gain card advantage to have a reasonable chance of back to backs, or else you have to depend on a single raw draw over the full hand of Rush Duels.
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>>540455881
Is Chessy taller than Ze Amin's 5'2?
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I fucking despise KoJ so much
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where is sea stealth 1
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>>540460185
it's sea stealth attack. it's kind of like how instead of "gears of war 5" it's just called "gears 5".
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>>540458480
>Also, genuinely, is Auxila even worth the points? Maybe the most low impact card to be hit that hard.
It's critical for this startup combo:
>NS Astellar
>Astellar summon Silvy
>Silvy search Tales
>Astellar + Silvy = Rcleia
>Rcleia discard Tales search Woes
>Astellar revive + Tales set
>Rcleia + Astellar = Primera Primus
>Primera Primus search Emblema
>Emblema to place Atrii
>Atrii summon
>Atrii + Primera Primus = Centur-Ion Auxilla
>Auxilla search Stand-Up

This combo leaves you setup to go in a bunch of different directions as you have:
>Silvy ready to shuffle back Rcleia to get you a level 4 tuner at basically any time since it's a quick effect.
>The Stand-Up line to place Trudea and then the Trudea shuffle to get Primera gives you options from a setup for a Wake-Up token synchro of an 8 or 12, Gargoyle II sending Trudea that'll make a 12 with Gargoyle returning to hand, or Phalanx search for a banish interaction
>Both of those setup tales so you can use have a search of Elzette (with the Stand-Up giving a material to send in Trudea) who can in turn get Rucia - both special summoning themselves in order to get a Tuner 6 on board that Woes can turn into Diabell on the opponent's turn.

Weirdly, it feels that I want to cut Diabell a bit more. I know she's a good card, but by swapping her with Azamina Elzette, I get 3 points back that can give a Dark Hole for the board breaker lineup, and she's critical for a variant that starts with Silvy - who in this build can hit a roadblock at Rcleia:
>NS Silvy
>Silvy get Tales
>Tales get Elzette
>Elzette special summon search WF
>Silvy + Elzette = Rcleia
Maybe have the Elzette searching Astellar and Rcleia search Broomy and using Broomy to get Astellar on field? Does need two searches that in turn require 2 Spells to discard do what Azamina Elzette could handle by being the Elzette search alone though...
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Did they really have to gut her this hard?
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>Calamity turn skip with synchro call is legal
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she is free
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>>540461725
Honestly, Auxilla's probably at the right point cost. Any deck that can make it can just use it to go into full Centur-Ion combo at a cost of 46 points across:
>1 Centur-Ion Auxilla (33)
>1 Centur-Ion Primera (5)
>1 Stand Up Centur-Ion (5)
>1 Centur-Ion Trudea (3)
>1 Wake-Up Centur-Ion
>1 Despian Luluwalilith
>1 Centur-Ion Legatia

Via this combo
>Make Auxilla
>Auxilla search Stand-Up
>Activate Stand-Up
>Place Trudea
>Trudea Summon
>Trudea to backrow + place Primera
>Primera summon
>Primera search Wake-Up
>Wake-Up make an 8 token
>Primera + 8 = Luluwalilith
>End Phase Auxilla place Primera in backrow
>On opponent's turn, Primera and Trudea can summon themselves and then get quick synchro'd off into Legatia for a pop and a draw.

And you know, Luluwalilith can be replaced with any 8 as Wake-Up can also make a 4 token and doesn't lock you. Same with the Opponent's turn, Trudea can just not modulate her level and Stand-Up's Quick Synchro only requires you use Centur-Ions as material, not as the result.

So...someone can have fun with that I guess.
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>>540462048
She’s an illusion, she probably enjoys it
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>>540444536
This. Best thing recently.
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>>540462758
Oh, and one last bit of dumbass jank you can do with that 46 point engine. You can use the Auxilla and Luluwalilith on field to make:
>Divine Arsenal AA-Zeus
>Dragon Master Lords
>Number 77: The Seven Sins (With it's banished-based Raigeki online)
>Starslayer TY-PHON (No summon restriction and 2 materials)

And if those three level 12s manage to survive to your turn...you have these options to inflict psychic damage:
>Super Quantal Mech King Great Magnus
>Number 99: Utopia Dragonar
>Raidraptor Final Fortress Falcon
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there should be a card that lets your opponent smash your head in
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>summon rhongo pass
so this is what peak gameplay looks like in genesys
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Centur-ion is unplayable in a format without Crimson Dragon, what are you people on about. What are you making on your opponents turn? Legatia or SE dragon. That's it! All those points for a single spot removal.
>But you can make 10s or 8s
You're not making tens because Azamina and Bystials are also money. And the 8 pool is bad. So no.
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>>540444118
>>540446071
>>540446306
https://ygorganization.com/efootballyugiohtcg/
Konami explains that starting September 27th, you can visit a participating Official Tournament Store to claim a free promo pack containing a Neymar Jr. Token Card and “Rescue Rabbit” (eFootballl™ Version).

You need to download either eFootball™ or eFootball™ CHAMPION SQUADS, and complete the tutorial and show proof you have completed it to receive the pack.
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>>540464224
if anyone does that tutorial just post a screenshot here
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>>540457580
Looks like AI
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>>540464557
that's what i've been assuming but I wanted to hope otherwise. a coomer can dream
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>>540464630
The banlist serves a different role.
>We do not want these cards in the game and do not want them to be viable for standard competitive play. We also want to restrict powerful decks so we can sell you new powerful decks.
VS
>We feel certain combinations of cards, as well as individual power cards, pose a threat to the game's ability to be played at multiple levels of play outside of the normal competitive circuit.
They tipped their hand when they said that shit about Genesys being the "Peoples' Format", implying that Advanced is Konami's format for its own benefit. Which we know is true.
Konami's a lot of things, but they aren't typically liars, just stupid and greedy, mostly.
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>sitting at 96-99/100 on Fluffal deck depending on Chimera or not
Dang, wish I could have 2 Patchwork, Chimera and Super Poly.
>>540463795
Surely Rhongo is a card that's 50pt+
>>540464348
I like getting my promos so I'll probably post a screenshot if needed.
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>>540465093
>surely rhongo is a card thats 50pt+
yeah man lets go with that
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>>540464630
>why couldn't they just update the ban list?
Because curbing the non-engine requires a 500 card banlist and they don't want to do that.
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>>540465093
>50pt+
LMAO
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You guys crying about rhongo 24/7 but still no deck posted that breaks it
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>>540465093
>>540463795
I really have no idea why they nerfed those other cards and didn't just smack Rhongo with a higher cost.
I understand how Prohibition and Sales Ban could pose problems even in a world without Rhongo, but they aren't 100-point threats. If your deck gets screened by a Prohibition/Sales Ban call, then you need to run a bunch of varied backrow hate. Skill issue.
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>>540465093
They should have made Gossip 75 points for the joke
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>>540382371
>>540427409
Just over 8 hours later, there's now 1 700+, 1 600+ and 11 500+ rating players on the DB Genesys rankings.
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>>540465402
>DB
Who cares?
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>>540465394
They should have made gossip 30 and rhongo 71 so my 3 axis isn’t fucked over
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>>540465093
>I like getting my promos
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>>540465394
no, they should have made rhongo 86 points for the joke.
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>>540465437
The point is that it grew more in the last under 24 hours than before that, despite the format already having a rated ladder up on DB for a few days now. That's an indicator that Genesys is actually starting to get some traction.
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Little Boy
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>>540441145
A lot of anons also don't know how much getting good tv timeslots still mattered up to a point in the west back in 2010-2016 or so compared to now, to get at least some wider viewership compared to nothing. Yugioh dubbed anime just wasn't going to get the good ones or were put onto the premium channels, moving away further and further from sight. Plenty of western-made cartoons lived or died by their timeslots and the way new episodes were promoted (or never promoted)
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>>540464928
>Genesys being the "Peoples' Format"
This just means they're gonna be taking balance ideas from reddit threads and MBT streams
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>>540465945
Can you legitimately say that's worse than what they've been doing with Advanced?
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>>540465989
It's all clowns ordering other clowns around so might as well, MBT ain't the worst retard you could get to run stuff.
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>>540465989
Yes? I don't want unplayers dictating what I can and can't play based on how much it offends them
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>>540466094
>I don't want unplayers dictating what I can and can't play based on how much it offends them
That's /dng/ crying about most cards while never playing so whats new?
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>>540466094
As opposed to unplayers that dictate what you can and can't play based on whether it makes them money or not?
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>>540466094
>outing yourself as the very thing youre complaining about
lmao anyone who plays this game already knows unplayers have been the ones that always made the biggest shitfests over cards in the meta.
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>>540466092
>the guy who threw a fit when knightmare goblin got unbanned and claimed it would break the game
>the guy who thought monkeyboard and the dragon rulers (pre support) being legal was gonna destroy purrely format
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It would help if the ygo space wasn't filled with easy to please retards that clap whenever an irrelevant continuous trap is limited.
>Most mid banlist ever
>But le heckin skill drain is at 1
>We did it reddit.
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>>540464630
>one day it'll take 6 months for an updated point list and by then they'll be clawing their eyes out
So we'll go back to how we get treated in standard? Ok? For now we're going to enjoy genesys while the dream lasts, no point in crying for the inevitable future. Might as well kill yourself now because you will die in the future otherwise
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Certain posters here will just have to be disposed of.
Permanently.
The cards don't lie.
So pray and prepare yourselves for your final moments
That is all.
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>>540466826
Just 2 more weeks guys, soon
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11 days until the start of the next reveal season
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>>540465189
>>540465237
Honestly surprised it's not higher.
>>540465747
Yugioh over here was generally put after 3pm when kids got out of school which should have been one of the better slots. If I remember correctly KidsWB was pretty much airing Yugioh till about the end of 5Ds at around 4-5pm. After that I think Disney XD took Zexal and onwards which really killed the reach of the show since KidsWB was a free channel.
>>540466094
You can argue that's no different than Master Rule. Most people make comments based on what they see as spectators and less as actual players.
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>>540466826
How many times has the supposed judgement been coming? Has it been 4 years now of these chunni tier comments?
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I don't want yugitubers and "fans" in charge of banlist construction. Day one, every single continuous effect in the game gets banned because they perceive them as floodgates, it's all they know.
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>>540467579
finally a funny one
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>>540466320
This is honestly my least favorite part of the culture in the TCG and the thing I'm worried about most in Genesys.
TCG seems to view the banlist as a prison for cards they don't like rather than a balancing mechanism. Whatever your thoughts on OCG/Master Duel they unhit things quickly and experiment with freeing long banned cards to see what will happen. OCG is willing to do clown shit like freeing Goblin/Mermaid and Eclipse Wyvern, and usually it turns out they're fine, meanwhile TCG has cards banned for decade old crimes, Shavara is still semi-limited for literally no reason.

Genesys banlists (pointlists?) look like they're gonna be tailored more to Youtuber "banlist reaction" content where big hits generate hype and unhits are something to be scrolled past with a yawn. So if your favorite deck ever gets hit, you're shit outta luck because it's probably never coming back.
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Links are not overcomplicating anything lol this is just laziness and card colour racism from the player base and nothing else
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>>540467718
what if my favorite deck is Wind-Up and I'm already living in the reality of it never coming back
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>>540467718
>Joseph legit believing that Rulers are badonken because of Tomahawk
>Joseph being afraid of any Zoo not named ratpier
I cannot fathom taking him seriously after these two horrendous takes.
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>>540467268
The kids WB block died during (early?) 5D's run iirc. Then Cartoon Network picked up 5D's for the U.S. but put it in throwaway slots because their very first priority was their own IPs, not anything licensed.
Fun fact: that time period was also the phase where CN suits started to act hostile towards all shows made by WB animation (like DC animated shows or that one serialized Scooby Doo show with a serious tone). CN and WB animation execs were having some kind of long feud with each other, despite everyone being under the same parent company and their previous good terms during the airings of Justice League and Teen Titans 2003. Someone who worked in WB more or less confirmed the hostility going on behind scenes years later and how retarded it all felt to the staff members
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>>540467832
No one has an issue with Links being complicated, they just have an issue with them being strong and generic. What people are really glad about is Pendtrannies getting the day of the rope by Konami.
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Would DoomZ be a good deck to pick up for Genesys?
I remember being impressed by their reveal, but they've done nothing in the OCG, right?
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What the fuck, why did only one of them get hit?
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>>540468024
why did any of them get hit, you mean. cards suck.
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>>540467268
>KidsWB
Nigga how old are you to remember that shit and still be in diapers?
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>>540465680
Cheesy and Martha are very fortunate.
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writing "Mr. Genesyssie" in the Epstein files
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Another free 0 point floodgate.
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>>540468071
They hit all the floodgates in the format, even old irrelevant ones. I'm survived that any of them survived unhit.
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>>540468106
Senior citizens wear diapers.
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The Sorafag wears diapers shit is just a Son shitpost isn't it?
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>>540468712
Sora is Son's alt.
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>>540468386
This is easily outed by generic xyz cards
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The plot twist is that KoA was originally fine including in pends for genesys because of pretty manageable power levels, but that one powerful jap executive who thinks they're an eyesore told them no way
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>>540468712
Son hasn't posted here in months
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>>540469508
ok son
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>>540469331
Other way around. Japs are fine with Pends and Links, while those are a lot more hated in the west.
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>>540469331
newfag pls
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who is son?
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>>540469613
That's why it would be a plot twist instead of the expected. It's the same one who will make sure Yuya never gets good support after 1000 performapals
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>>540469770
brother of daughter.
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>>540469887
The AGOV support was very good though, it's just that specifically Performapals are an ugly mess
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10,000 heroes
1,000 performapals
None of them powerful enough to work
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>>540469887
Other pend archetypes like Melodius and DDD dab on him with how their support make their decks functional. Yuya is solely oppressed.
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>>540469047
Sora lives is a Los Angelino aka he very much can be that kind of degenerate
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>>540470038
atp if you make them good they wouldn't even play most of the old shit
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i'm curious how many of you know the one card in the entire game capable of summoning the 1 point supreme king dragon starving venom in genesys format. there is in fact exactly one.
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>>540469887
SK Gate Magician was basically a custom card
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>>540470068
It's so funny to me that the Melodious Pends are incredibly powerful cards both as monsters and spells that also set up a Pend summon that you hardly ever need.
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>Muh KoA hates Pends and are ruining it for us
>Muh KoJ hates Pends and are ruining it for us
Have you ever thought that Konami as a whole hates them, notices no one in its playerbase remotely tried to play them and doesn't bother trying to save it because it's a pain that doesn't sell?
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>>540468386
This dude lives in the magical land of 2010, where Level Limit Area B and Gravity Bind are genuine threats and not a comically ignorable waste of a backrow slot.
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>>540470298
>print shit cards
>people dont play them competitively
>print good cards
>people play them to the point they get banned (then people stop playing them)
If Konami refuses to print good cards, or let people play with good cards, people OF COURSE are not going to play them.
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>>540470298
>Have you ever thought that Konami as a whole hates them,
But KoJ has been releasing fucktons of good Pend cards lately
And KoA still keeps trying to suppress them as much as possible

There doesn't seem to be any ill will towards the mechanic from the Japanese side. They just took a LONG time to figure out what the fuck to do with them.
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>>540470378
>This dude lives in the magical land of 2010, where Level Limit Area B and Gravity Bind are genuine threats and not a comically ignorable waste of a backrow slot.
>No dude you gotta ban mystic mine it's unreasonable to have me main deck backrow removal
Cognitive dissonance
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Genesys Tournament - This Saturday, September 27, 07:00 PM UTC
https://challonge.com/dnggenesys1
https://challonge.com/dnggenesys1
https://challonge.com/dnggenesys1

>TCG only card pool - no OCG and no pre-release cards
>Genesys 100 point system
>300 turn timer limit
>45 minutes per match
>EDOPro EU Casual
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>>540470241
Supreme Rage copied off Rollback?
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>>540470582
I swear if anybody brings this motherfucker.
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>>540470492
>It is okay for the entire metagame to bend around the existence of a single card
Your next line is "Yes, that's why Ash Blossom is fine at 3", isn't it?
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>>540470492
Duster is 30 points
Heavy Storm is 20 points
Lightning Storm is 40 points
Giant Trunade is 40 points
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>>540470690
Funny how they just designed this as an out to Sphere Kuriboh/Enemy Controller + Low level beater during the Vrains era because of Duel Links.
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>>540470703
>>540470719
>you can't reasonably expect me to remove this one backrow card (mine)
>this one backrow card (grave) is trivial to deal with
Still cognitive dissonance
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>>540470628
nope. effect copying effects such as rollback can ignore the costs of cards, but not their activation conditions. no zarc, no supreme rage.
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SAVE HER
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>>540470934
I would've much rather preferred a Synchro instead of a Normal Monster, although I could see how the lore connection would be immediately not obvious anymore.
Also
>start off 2300/1000 and a Pendulum
>gain infection, lose Pendulum, gain Tuner and 2 Levels, 2300/3000 (+0/+2000)
>become a big hulking dragon, lose a Level and 500 DEF
This shit doesn't make sense. Should've just made a Level 10 or 12 non-Effect Synchro Dragon with like 5000/2300.
>keeps the vanilla thematic
>shows the power boost gained from becoming a dragon
>a 5000 beatstick might actually be useful
>2300 DEF connects it back to the lore
>Level increasing becomes representative of the growing infection
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>>540470934
with a kiss?
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>it's a pain that doesn't sell?

That's all of yugioh lil bro
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>>540470845
Flamberge a monster into a Pendulum Zone, use Pendulum Shift on it to turn it into a Pendulum, then Flamberge it back onto the field twice?
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>>540471465
NTA, and I don't know the answer, but that can't be it. Genesys doesn't have Pendulum Zones.
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>>540471465
That doesn't even work in Advanced. You have to place a pend scale via the mechanic first for the L or R S/T zone to even be treated as a pendulum zone in the first place.
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>>540471465
a monster placed in the far left or right spell/trap zone as a continuous spell does not count as in the pendulum zone. this is even true for actual pendulums.
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>>540471465
That's not how Pendulum Shift works
A card in the Spell/Trap Zone is not in the Pendulum Zone unless it is a Pendulum that was activated specifically in the Pendulum zone

EVEN a Pendulum monster pushed back into the left/right zone doesn't count as a scale
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>>540471465
>Flamberge a monster into a Pendulum Zone
You can't, Pendulum Zones don't exist until you either
>A) Use a Pendulum's in-built effect to "activate" the card into the Pendulum Zone (which doesn't exist until you do this)
or
>B) Use an effect of another card that specifically mentions the Pendulum Zones, and place something in there that way
You Flamberging a card only puts a card into the Spell/Trap Zone, not into a Pendulum Zone
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>>540471228
Funny how I've seen people posting about wanting this cliche to happen for this card on several different websites now.
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Found another Japanese OCG player talking about Genesys format.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAI5q7n--wk
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>just played against fabled with fiendsmith and graceful charity
ok that was very cool
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>>540472120
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>>540470934
>Becomes dragon
>Loses a level
>Loses 500 DEF
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Level Eater should be 33 points.
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>>540472197
What were you using?
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>>540472293
Evil Eye atm
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>>540472346
Were you the guy posting about Mirage of Nightmare?
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>>540472364
yes and I'm still convinced it has potential
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>>540470582
>>TCG only card pool - no OCG and no pre-release cards
This means DOOD is legal, yes?
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>>540471906
it's so ingrained into folk tales that it's easy to think
>ok so where's her future husband
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>crossout designator is 10pt
why, every card you'd use with it also costs points
I was looking forward to using it in ghoti as a cheaper gold sarc
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>>540470241
I don't think any Quantal sane enough to activate this from hand.
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>>540472447
That is a good question. Should it be legal? Have they added any of the DOOD cards to Genesys list?
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>>540472967
Noroi and Dominus are on the list already
They said they would pre-add new cards if they're legacy support but not if it's a debut archetype, and there will be a point update every month
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>>540472967
Dominus Spiral and K9 - Noroi are 10 points.
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>>540472232
>I think its been distorted because of Pendulum Link, but am I the only one who thinks Fusion, Synchro and Xyz have been distorted for a long time now?
This guy gets it. The removal of Pendulum and Link doesn't undo most of the design decisions from their eras and as a result you still have the gameplay people don't like but with the facade that the "problem" is gone.
Sure, two whole mechanics are gone but that doesn't mean the game is "back", if anything it just showcases how far gone the game actually is as people experience the same complaints people were complaining about prior ("The game is too complicated", "The game ends too quickly", "My opponent just sits there playing for 25 minutes while I do nothing") but with the supposed "problem" gone.
Pendulum and Links were never the problem, the design philosophies of those eras were the problem and they never went away.
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>>540472967
The official Genesys site's search function includes extra deck hybrid pendulum monsters for some reason.
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>>540473396
The fact that year-old archetypes like Fiendsmith are untouched by the point list is proof that it's still the same shit, just with fewer handtraps to actually curb it

Anything released in the past decade and a half needs to be on the point list for this to work on a fundamental level
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>>540473461
A blogpost that went up yesterday said that was a bug, and it should be fixed.
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>>540473461
They addressed that earlier I think
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>>540473548
>untouched by the point list
They have no Links you retarded ape
Fiendsmith's only purpose is being a ROTA for Musket/Fabled
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>>540435472
This should be added to the OP.
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/
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>>540473548
There are cards released THIS YEAR that don't deserve to be on the point list, because who the fuck would play them
Are you seriously going to come out here and say that uh
>Spell Card "Monster Reborn"
needs to be on the fucking point list?
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>>540472875
ding ding ding! we have a winner. this is the only card in the entire game that can generically summon any monster from the extra deck ignoring its summoning conditions... and it has your opponent do it. so it's actually completely impossible for you on your own to summon skdsv in genesys. and it still costs a point.
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>>540473548
>The fact that year-old archetypes like Fiendsmith are untouched by the point list is proof that it's still the same shit, just with fewer handtraps to actually curb it
Please post the strongest pure Fiendsmith combo possible in Genesys.
If you don't respond I will assume you have hanged yourself in shame for making a post this embarassing.
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Dumbasses still haven't noticed the Fusion/Synchro/Xyz Pendulums.
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>>540473691
The whole point is that modern card design in general is based on layers upon layers of unaddressed mistakes
We're unironically at a point where it's considered sane and normal for searchers to """place""" cards on the field for zero reason other than sidestepping Ash Blossom. Even pack filler operates under the assumption that you're counting summons for Maxx C.
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>>540473748
You can give this card to your opponent using Magical Contract Door
I have no idea how you set it up so that they're able to activate it, let alone willing, but there's definitely a 15-minute montage of somebody pulling it off on unsuspecting retards, just waiting to be made.
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>>540473780
Fiendsmith is not bad Genesys. You can still make the fusions, rank 6s and synchros.
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Yeah I think my Genesys deck is decent
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Is anyone else doing Gallis FTK?
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>>540474243
How's the consistency?
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>>540474181
What deck?
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>>540474278
pure fiendsmith
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>>540474265
I haven't built a genisys version of the deck so I wanted to know if anyone else has so I could get advice.
I will say I am sad that I can't run a superheavy engine in it
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>>540474278
Dark Magician
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>>540474278
Gravekeeper
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>>540474757
What are you summoning off of that?
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>>540446000
Nah I don't mind Genesys, but I'm not playing it.
I have RUSH for my alt format needs
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I choose to believe Genesys is Jerome’s pet project since he’s a well known Pendulum hater
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>>540474817
If people knee I wouldn’t win as much
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>>540471225
>>540472239
She also dropped a star.
It’s implied that she is no longer active in that shell and she let the dragons roam around as the shell, after feeling alone for too long.
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>>540474897
RUSH isn’t an alt format it’s a separate game entirely.
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Can anyone post a fun Genesys deck thats simple and enjoyable? Preferably that I can build in Legacy of the Duelist: LE for practice
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>>540475285
Does that game have the Fire King structure? You need it for my dear Hazy Flames.
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>>540462379
Who is that?
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has anyone tried cap 0 yet?
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>>540475352
Link Evolution came out in December 2023 so everything up to there should be good. Maybe wouldn’t have like, hyper modern from that point but certainly most cards up to it. Presumably tcg only
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>>540474897
Rush is nygo though
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>>540475352
Probably? Post decklist and a briefp description of what I am supposed to do and I’ll try it out
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>>540475383
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>>540475258
>>540475605
Yeah sorry what I should've said was I was playing a better card game.
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The fusion Link-1…
What if they’re making a card like this for “Fallen of Albaz”
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Anyone make a good TER genesys deck?
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Join Genesys Tournament in 2 days:
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>>540476093
I will join w/ gravekeeper IF I am spoonfed one in time
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>>540476036
Instant Fusion is 100 points and you can’t revive it with Selene
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>>540476036
Look up the old new support that made it an archetype.
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>>540475285
Bro just use (p)Edopro. You can ask for games here.
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>>540476093
>none of my amc decks are playable
owari da...
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>>540477209
Maybe don’t be a metagolem and play a soulful non-meta deck like Hazy Flames instead.
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I hope someone records the first time a returnboomer has to play against some combo negatepile in genesys
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>>540477129
Aint playin with sweats here unless I’ve practiced the deck w/ bots. I’m not even halfway to that point yet because I’ve been asking for decks for days and nothing. Brutal.
>>540476646
surely there must be some way to free my nigga ter
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Just fought an Infernoble player in Genesys and holy fuck I thought this was supposed to be a slow format.
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>>540477380
? TER has been unbanned for many years now
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>>540476036
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>>540477313
erm my ninja deck is like 300 points thougheverbeit.....
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>>540477380
We're not sweats. I mean we sweat alot but we're not swears
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>>540477473
Monarchs and Necroz combo off for half an hour
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>>540477601
pass the towel, i'm really sweaty, brother
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>>540477574
I’m aware of that soulless, metagolem
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>>540477345
the returnboomers aren’t ever going to get to that point with how impossible deck building is from scratch if you haven’t played post 2010
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>>540477673
ninjas have never won anything in any format
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>>540477473
You're still using the modern card pool, this format is anything but slow.
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>>540477720
Did I stutter, metagolem?
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>>540475285
>>540477380
You can also check card costs and total deck costs for Genesys on DuelingBook. They have a button that'll let you export your decklists from there so you can use them on other simulators like EDOPro or print them out for official events.
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>>540477515
Huh, I've noticed there are a good number of banned cards at absurdly low point costs.
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>>540477793
For now.
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>>540477515
Dark Balter is costless btw
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>>540477345
Legit might be about to embarrass myself on Sunday in front of /dng/. I haven't played anything remotely competitive since ARC-V era, and even back then I was running weird builds of meta decks because I didn't feel like shelling out for the key cards. I'm aware of most of the modern staples, but I have very little practice with them.
That said, I went through the whole point list and checked any card that wasn't in an archetype I recognized. I figure if it's got points, it's worth at least knowing about.
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Boycotting genesys? Why should I listen to e-celebs and redditors?
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>>540477313
You got bullied in school and never got over it.
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>>540477702
It is kinda insane how netdecking is gonna be essential if you don't know how to calculate the best use of 100 points by yourself
And EVERY guide/list is gonna be outdated every month
And if you're playing paper then you're paying for cards that have a 30-ish day expiry date
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>>540477938
What did you play and what are you bringing to the tournament
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I'll make this fucking last turn bullshit works even if it's the last thing i'd do
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>dueling network general
>doesn't play on dueling book
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>>540477938
>I haven't played anything remotely competitive since ARC-V era
I'm looking to enter. The last time I played was when I topped a regionals back when Edison was just called Yugioh. Ironically, I used to post in these threads back then too, although /vg/ didn't exist yet.
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>>540477849
30 for a playset is actually still a lot. Being locked out of other card is a big deal in this format.
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>>540477970
I was popular in school because I’m fun and not a metagolem.
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>>540478042
>they updated last turn so it can't activate if opponent can't special summon stuff
motherfucker
does battle effect works tho
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>>540478025
I ran Nekroz with no Brio, and Melodious Lock-Out.
I haven't entirely decided what I'm bringing to the tournament. Might be a Nekroz rebuild I've been working on, or maybe I'll play for fun and bring something sillier. I've got a few ideas.
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>>540477965
is he still dating that "girl"?
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>>540478095
what did you play for that top, were you a GladChad
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>>540478054
Yeah, because we’re not Dueling Book General
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>>540478054
Too laggy.
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>>540477801
Getting that far will be impossible. Points won’t matter with the inability to understand modern engines or support for old ones. Look at all the Gravekeeper shitposting. Boomers try to make that unplayable shit work, and will surely quit after two losses. Format will be dead in two weeks
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>>540478278
Nah, there's a huge amount of deck diversity on DuelingBook.
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All the jank that is playable now...just the fact I can run ash and imperm and metafaggots don't is enough...don't care if it's still weaker at least much better than whatever turd advanced is.
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>>540478369
>ash and imperm
>when you have access to 3 shifter for cheaper
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>>540478369
I'm personally worried that decks will end up being "Whatever's strongest at 0 points so I can run as many handtraps and board breakers as possible", but I've been looking at some matches and I've got a bit more hope than I started with.
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>>540477965
"competitive" ygo players when the format isn't one deck being a free win
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>>540478254
I lied, Starstrike Blast in 2010 was the last set I played. I was playing Formula Monarchs up until then, then converted it to Armory Arm OTK and ended up winning a mat.
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Does Gravekeeper have a card yet that retrieves Necrovalley back from banished or (ironically) grave like Stele? It'd be a cool step towards making the deck workable without putting 80pts to 2 necrovalley
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>>540478363
The toppings deck as far as I’ve heard are somewhat recent things like lunalight, quantal, and generaiders though.
Also if the gravekeeper boomer sees this I’d recommend playing Odion/Temple of Kings instead.
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>>540478363
>there's a huge amount of deck diversity on DuelingBook.
We're in the "wild west" format where people are trying all kinds of insane shit because there's no meta
Trust me after the first couple events it's gonna homogenize hard.
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>>540478483
good work Yusei
>>540478473
where can I find an outfit like this, asking for a friend
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>>540478471
We're still in the honeymoon period, enjoy it, this shit is getting reduced to a pool of less than a dozen playable decks within a month if there's any actual competitive interest in it.
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>>540478492
Bite the bullet and run all the Field fetchers/recyclers that they just hit to stop Mystic Mine. If you don't know what those are, check the point modifier list and just start searching up card names. If it only got 1~5 points, it was probably to stop it from being played with Mine.
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>>540478369
Veiler and Mourner are way cheaper in points.
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>>540478559
At least the power level will be closer to a mean and needs come regularly. Just not facing maliss slop at locals is enough desu
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>>540478369
>>540478471
Anon, you're forgetting that modern decks are all gas and can just play through 2-3 interruptions. Every card in your hand is a one-card combo.
Petdecks that fold to one Ash aren't going to compete.
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>>540478719
I figure most of the one-card combo decks are going to get hit eventually. There's an awful lot of Amazon-Wannabe Cat Women running around for them to not end up with at least a few points to their name by next adjustment.
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>>540478492
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>>540478492
>another gravekeeper chad
The answer is always going to be no. This deck is useless now
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>>540478890
>Another
That's at least 3 by my count
How are there so many of you in 2025
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Metaverse is a 3 cost and Trap Trick is free in Genesys.
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>>540479007
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>>540478849
thanks, it's not perfect (valley still dies to cyclone) but probably the best existing one
>>540478890
>>540478980
I don't actually play GK, I just saw how expensive Necrovalley's points were and it got me really curious. I respect them, one of our casualboomers at locals is a GKfag and mixes it with anything whenever they show up
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Trap Tracks is also free.
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hosting genesyssie EU casual
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>>540479279
Hadn’t even considered blinding second, too hung up on muh Varudras
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>>540479296
It's not worth it. just play Trap Trick is free and better if the card you're setting doesn't require points. No trap deck has ever been able to play Tracks but Dinomorphia and lol @ that deck in syssie format
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Trap Holic meanwhile is a 7 cost.
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>>540478980
its one of the most iconic boomer decks, and iirc the first real archetype. really its a miracle there aren’t more
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>>540479279
Where's you find this?
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What are (You) playing in Sissygen?
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>>540457580
NovelAI 4.5, default settings. Normally I prefer version 4.0's art style but for some reason that version doesn't know Harpie Lady.
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>>540479628
Working on Naturia Vernuslop w/ Ishizu shufflers. I never got rid of them irl so I can play it if locals ever does the format. I did throw Exodia together for "fun" but I only do solitaire with it, 'not worth subjecting people to 15min of draws to go "yeah I bricked" towards the end.
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>>540479749
very nice. I like the cameltoe ones. does it do nude
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>>540479849
I saw someone high rated on DB running Kash Fenrirs in that.
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>>540479628
I'm testing out a bunch of stuff
>Myutant
>Mikanko
>Melodious
>Evil Eye
>Ghoti
>Goblin
I wanna try a trap deck (probably Eldlich) and see how Zombies/Vendreads hold up here too.
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>>540480096
part of me wants to just drop the Nat Beast (50 fucking points) and play better cards like that, but he's such a big part of the deck's appeal that it feels wrong to toss him out. Im liking the idea of dominus purge, Sacred Tree will never not be in your grave so an Ash that pops seems really good into all the Lunalight/VS around.
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hosting genesys 100 on casual
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White dragon ninja control.
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>4 month long tournament, spanning from the 7th of September to the 18th of January (20 rounds), with the Top 4 Finals taking place on the 25th of January
>new participants can join the tournament at any point in time, just sign up on the tournament page
>a single round will be held each week
>BO3 matches and we're using a very basic leaderboard system, match wins and byes net you 2 points, match losses net you 1 point and no shows give you nothing
>2 no shows in a row will result in a disqualification
>matchups will be randomized each week, as allowing new players to join all the time messes with any automated round systems
>The randomized matchups will be announced in the thread each Monday and the matchups can agree on the time and date of the duel during that week
>you are allowed to change decks between rounds
>we will be using the most recent TCG banlist and the PRERELEASE card pool
>300 second turn timers, no reason for a time limit on rounds as it's only 1 round per week
>report scores via DMs

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This means we no longer need to rely on the Discord server, but I'm still keeping it around just in case. Here's the link if anyone new joins:
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The Round 5 matchups will be posted in the thread on Monday.
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Is there a Genesys general on 4chan.
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>>540480206
myutant enjoyer here they're unplayable with the taxes on etele gamma protos colossus shifter PEP
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Did no one realize that Da moved his tourney to the 28th (this Sunday) so now we have back to back Genesys tourneys on the weekend lol
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>>540481907
How playable are they against maliss?
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Idk where to start. Haven't played Yu-gi-oh for a long time.
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>Seventh Tachyon can search the thunder king kaiju

Nice
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>>540482154
you pray you win the cointoss and protos them
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>>540482189
Type Into YouTube: _Deck name_ 2025
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>>540481190
ggs anon, can't say I remembered that battle effect but I would've lost regardless since I had only handtraps in hand, cool deck concept
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Still not 100% about the hand traps.
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New X-Sabers are BUILT for Genesys
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If your archetype is not on the list expect it to be unsalvageable trash even with all the handtraps crutches
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Was hearing Edopro was gonna support Genesys or is this false?
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Why is Snake-Eye taxed so highly without Links?
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>cockwings are barely hit
le sigh....
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>>540483313
because OSS is a broken card that should have never been printed
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>>540483531
>legal in both other formats and seeing 0 play
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when the paycheck doesn't come in the mail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ7BYqgJiMI
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>>540483573
>legal in broken ass format that people refuse to play
>Want to bring that shit to lower tier format
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>>540483684
What are you making without all of their endboard pieces? Snake Eyes only ever ended on Apo/IP with Princess in grave
They had lines for Baronne/Savage but Savage isn't here and Baronne is taxed to shit

Rank 1 spam?
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>>540483573
its one of the most hated decks of all time
nobody wants to see or play with these garbage cards
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is buster blader busted in genesys?
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>>540483620
I want him to make Genesys videos
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So, will they reprint banned card, now that it can be playable?
like, i want to verify how does Last Will work
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>It took a new ruleset to stop people from playing 20 non-engine cards
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>>540483531
OH NO NOT THE DREADED SNAKE-EYES RANK 1 ENGINE SAVE ME TEWARTMAN
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remember when the new double loss time rules killed yugioh?
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>>540483313
Bro this might be big shock to you but cardgame formats are not about fairness between all the happy little fairies and their favourite archetypes and ponies. Its not about how good snake-eyes is.
Having snake-eye see any play in this format would be braindead. Both the audience and the company wants shitty decks to see play; thats how we get a fresh format that appeals to people who are turned off by TCG and konami sells cards that used to fill up the shelves.
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>>540484707
>>540483795
The fact that you won't answer the question and just resort to throwing a tantrum says everything I need to know
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>>540483573
You are talking with feels over reals people, don't even bother trying to respond.
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>>540484770
this was literally the answer to your question
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>>540483797
>can't play protector whelp
>can't play sage into whelp because you can't play the blue-eyes link-1
>can't link off buster whelp so it's no longer a 1-card buster lock and you have to get it in gy some other way
>blue-eyes spell that searches whelp is 33P
no, it's very nerfed even if all of their cards are 0P
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>>540484916
mmmmh sad
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>>540484770
konami wants people to play the format not leave the moment they see a disgusting snakeshit card
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I need help for Doom-Z, feels like i have one NS and if it gets stopped i lose. if opponent has one pop he makes me go minus3. Feels shit even in genesys. Is there something that pairs well with it that could add some extra oomph going second?
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>>540477515
how many points for metamorphosis?
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>>540484881
>>540485000
I asked what Snake Eyes is making without Links
It's entirely possible I'm wrong btw, there may well be some busted combo with all the Snake Eyes free bodies that I'm unaware of
But screeching MOMMY I DON'T WANNA SEE SNAKE EYES isn't an argument
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>>540484992
it's still okay though, but it's even less of a deck than it already is (buster blader is basically just a floodgate engine instead of its own deck at this point)
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>>540485129
The Shining Sarc gets you an omni negate and access to Seventh Tachyon before committing to your normal negate.
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>>540484707
Snake-Eyes without links are complete and utter dogshit though
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>>540485214
Bro they can make recital starling and recital starling, broken!
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>>540485214
You asked why it was taxed so highly, thats the reason. Nothing to do with how powerful it is: it is irrelevant what they can make with links for your question.
For the link question yeah, they are a really good rank1 engine that can spam ensemblue robin and F0 but i would imagine that would be no problem if they werent also the face of meta.
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>>540485454
doesn't matter
konami hit decks that the playerbase doesn't want to see played
>lab
>tenpai
>snakeeyes
>branded
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>>540485673
>the playerbase
you mean tewart right?
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>>540485673
3 of those don't use links at all and were hit because of that
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>>540485673
You mean some asshole and his sycophants?
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>>540485673
the way tcgfags bend to the whims of localizers never stops being funny
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>>540485305
ok thanks
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Can I activate this card when my opponent attempts to Ritual Summon?
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read carefully the cards
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>>540485143
10, shit's peak
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>>540486183
No
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>>540486307
Great. So I just won my first Dueling Book game by cheating. I guess.
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>>540485673
its braindead how many people so desperately want to play their locals playable archetype in this format.
Why would i want to play branded there when it has multiple tops right now in the real game and the only reason im not topping is because im shit at the game?
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>>540486429
>its crazy how people like things stop liking things
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>>540485369
what does 7th tachyon do for doom-z?
either way shining sarc feels really shit going second
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I think Konami will roughly make a card like this for Branded/Dogmatika. At least the summoning gimmick.
The other traits:
>Fallen of Albaz name
Cartesia, whom has Dogmatika-like mechanics
>Fallen of Albaz as material
Springangs Kitt and Tri-Brigade Mercourier
>Search for Spells mentioning “Fallen of Albaz”
Branded fusion, Branded Lost, Branded in white. Branded in red, The fallen and the virtuous. Nadir Servant (The unsearchable Dogmatika staple).
>Super poly effect
To trigger Branded lost. Give the card an interruption. Board breaking (Mirrorjade and Stigmatika)
And… shill the new Stigmatika dragon.
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>>540484403
yeah because they went too far with powercreep
unless they took the amc approach and banned like 200 cards
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>>540486531
you can already like it in the real game. Its not even like this format allows you to play these decks any differently; no-lock mirrorjade spam had a big regional top just last month!
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>>540486384
that's every game on duelingbook
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Genesys starter deck.
Genesys staple sets.
Genesys only card sets.
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>>540484403
this their own fault for making archetypes way too compact
every new archetype is
>fully playable with only 10 main deck cards
>boring 1 card combos
>lame ass link-1 ED extenders
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>>540486741
Branded is good enough that it doesnt need a giant shitdeck bandaid like this that increases its strenghts. Its rather struggling with the power being concentrated in Brifu, lack of a send from extra that immediately does something and the speed at which it empties its extra deck for grinding against decks like dracotail.
And then that your entire deck is soft bricks.
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>>540486270
thats OP why no one uses it?
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>When they would Special Summon;...
>But you cannot use it when they would Special Summon
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>>540486741
I'd rather we get some role compression so I don't have to play a bunch of soft bricks.
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>>540486582
It gets you access into Medius.
I don't disagree that it's not great going second, but at least it forces out interactions before you have to commit to Doom-Z cards. The "best" choice for making going second to feel better is just loading up on blind second cards, but that just makes your turn one worse in a deck that has nothing pushing it to willing pick starting second.
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>>540487024
have you seen decks in the past year? engine count is really high.
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>>540487393
Ritual, fusion, normal, and special are all different words, jeeto.
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>>540487436
yummy is what 13 cards
rest is non engine garbage
ryzeal was 12
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Okay BUT
Victory dragon status?
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>>540487731
it's not on the list, i assume they are just treating it as an illegal card
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>>540487393
If a card simply says "when your opponent would special summon" it's talking about "inherent" summon or summon that doesn't start a chain (synchro, xyz, link, the special summon of kashtira monsters)
If a card says "When a card or effect is activated that includes an effect that Special Summons" then it's talking about cards that start a chain like poly, ritual spells, etc.
Solemn warning includes both and that's why it can negate both types of effect.
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>>540481905
/dng/ is always for every TCG formats(not MD or DL as those are DCG and owns a different general)
not only usual format or the new genesys format, you can also discuss the real old Edison or GOAT format if want to
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>>540487938
Yeah sure, but it's still relic ruling of the past that makes game more complex than it should be.
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I'm not confident about this one honestly. I don't think this deck can go second, but I'll give it my best show with Kurikara.
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>>540488018
Thanks for the answer
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>>540488170
I'm in agreement. Yugioh is a game that really shows its age and needless complexity and could really do with a streamlining of the ruleset.
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>>540487716
Current decks has like 12 non-engine.
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I keep fucking up my Genesys Utopia deck testing with dumbass basic shit like forgetting Prime and accidentally normal setting monsters instead of summoning them, even though I played that deck a lot before already.
Shouldn't play Yugioh with a slight headache, I should really just go rest or sleep already.
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>>540482189
Well, what deck did you like to play before?
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>>540488203
very different from my approach, I went full handtrap (probably playing too many of them). prototype psychic blaster is a good idea, I'll be using that
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>>540482189
What format do you want to play, regular or the new Genesys format?
Meta or rogue?
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>>540483004
Where the fuck did you hear that? They explicitly said they WOULDN'T support it.
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>>540484481
Metamorphosis into TER.
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>>540487394
What does role compression even mean?
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>>540488203
replace the pointed cards with 1 chaos ruler
punk becomes so much better with it
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>>540484770
Popularity and Event Attendance > Game Balance
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>>540488995
Cards that serves multiple purposes.
I.e Imperm is just a handtrap and never a starter, while Stratos is always a starter but never disruption, but a card like Izuna or a Bystial can be both disruptions and bodies.
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>>540488686
Yeah, I think yours is much better that mine. I might just give up E-tele and just use Parallel although that requires cutting the non-psychics. Has Mini been working out for you? It doesn't read very good to me, but I am happy to be proven wrong. And mind master is 1 point?! I assumed it be like a 100, definitely slotting him in. Rover is also a very cute inclusion.
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>>540488995
Role compression is where you take the functionality of two things and put it into one thing. Using RPGs as an example, a tank that can heal is role compression because it does tanking and healing.
I bring this up because while Branded has a lot of good cards that are very searchable you end up playing a bunch of ones ofs with 1 Job, which can brick up your hands if you draw them in bad combinations.
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>>540489191
>while Stratos is always a starter but never disruption
>he never quick summoned statos to pop a field/cont. spell
grimmy
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>>540485214
It doesn't matter how much weaker the deck is, the moment players see them there, they'll leave the format and keep avoiding it.
Impressions are everything, and Snake-Eyes already left a sour taste in people's mouths.
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>>540489023
I would agree but my focus is on the DUAD psychics and not Punks.
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>>540487141
All those buzzwords are meaningless when Maliss, Ryzeal, and Yummy got printed while Azamina cheats every single feature about fusion ever just to make an Omni-negate out of anything.
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>>540489114
>>540489420
If someone is fragile enough that watching Snake Eyes lose a game makes them immediately quit they weren't gonna last long to begin with. What are they gonna do when they have to go up against something that's actually good?
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>>540489542
>What are they gonna do when they have to go up against something that's actually good?
Cry about it, like always.
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>>540489320
You mean branded bricks because the only good fusion material in the deck is fallen of albaz since he is the only one who actually has boss monsters while Despians and other cards are pretty much trash tier in their fusion galleries.
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>>540486183
No, this only stops inherent summons like Synchro, Xyz, etc...
Summons using card effects can't be countered by that.
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>>540489296
mini is kind of necessary to access MM lines, you can banish an earth punk to summon serene which summons MM. I'm trying rover as a tribute target for MM, if you're lucky enough for it to revive twice it's an extra synchro pretty much, but it does feel winmore-y
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>>540488813
Why? did they released a notice or something explaining?
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>>540488709
Genesys format and both meta and rogue
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>>540488018
This.
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>>540489789
Yeah.
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Edopro doesn't really need to do anything to support Genesys though?
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>>540489542
>watching Snake Eyes lose a game
Nope. They'll scoop the moment SE plays a single card and leave. No time to be watching that bullshit.
>>540489580
They'll start leaving the format which'll make Konami get concerned about the dwindling playerbase and start conceding to them as a result.
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>>540489681
I don't mind jumping through hoops to focus around him. I'm more so talking about stuff like Retribution only existing to be dumped off of Albion or Mercourier sitting in hand with no way to banish it.

These weaknesses are fine and are good design but modern decks don't need to play by such rules.
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>>540490197
just add the shitty point table list
thats all they need to do
if shit like dueling book could do it in less than a fucking day then its clearly not hard
just smells of incompetency
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>>540490298
>They'll start leaving the format
Right but that will happen regardless is my point.
A person who would abandon the game because of a tier 9 Snake Eyes deck would also be triggered into abandoning the game by 99% of the entire cardpool.
That's not a demographic that's even possible to please.
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>>540490197
Rooms that are only startable if both players have a legal point count would help prevent cheating and be way more convenient for tournaments.
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>>540485214
Ash > Poplar > Oak revive Ash > OSS for Jet > Flamberge > Jet revive > Formula > Baronne
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>>540490197
>>540490515
i think they just don't WANT to do it for some reason, it didn't sound like they couldn't do it
could just be that the way edopro's codebase works makes it really hard to implement something like that as well i guess
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>Normal Ash search Pooplar
>Pooplar eff add field
> Field Place Diabell
>Send Ash and Pooplar for Flambarf or Birch
>Diabell place Pooplar to summon
Then... make r1nk or r8nk I guess....
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>>540490707
>spending 85 points on a card as shit as Baronne
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>>540490826
Then make This Pater or something.
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>>540490529
Snake-Eyes were a relatively recent Tier 0 meta, there aren't THAT many many other archetypes that produces the same gut response as it, so it's a lot easier to suppress those decks with hits.
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>>540490725
>50+ points for shitty water + tree dragon
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>>540435472
Anything wrong with the event dates and times, or is everything up to date?
Please check before making the next OP.
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>>540490707
>diabelle 20 points
>ash 5 points
>poplar 5 points
>OSS 100 points
>jet 1 point
>barone 85 points
i am glad this shit is unplayable
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>>540490515
>>540490720
as far as their deckbuilder goes the modifications they'd need to do to support a genesys banlist are small
I know because I did them myself (taking the opportunity to post psychic soup mk.2 after having seen anon's take on punks)
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>>540488928
A downright TERRIFYING play twenty two years ago
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isn't kash unicorn way too broken in this format
yeah he cost 30 per copy but ripping shit out of the ED is extremely devastating since ED cards are very costly
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>>540488632
wait a minute
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>>540491937
I run no point cards in my ED and have multiples of everything
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>>540489898
I know I'm gonna get shit for this but you should check out some Yugitubers, a lot of them has posted a lot of Genesys lists since it was announced. Lithium could be a place to start.
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>>540492023
most meta decks can't afford a 0 cost ED
k9 ripper is 20 so unicorn solos every k9 package
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>>540492258
Wow spending 30 to own the 20 point card, meanwhile I summon gameciel for free
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>>540492373
i mean yeah there are outs to unicorn
he's still an obnoxious asshole that can search monster reborn for itself and be a ED rip if your opponent plays the game
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>>540490323
I don’t think they want us to stick to the old cards at all if possible.
Dogmatika received two new maindeck monsters that encouraged having an extra deck monster out and they even give Chaplin 2000/2000 stats, making it clearer that dogmatika monsters lacking these stats are no longer going to be a thing. And they didn’t have ED locks.

Branded cards are from 2021/2022, and the new Spell card is calling for the use of 1500/1500 Ecclesias.
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>>540494075
New
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>>540487393
>>540487938
>>540488170
>>540488380
This is the type of ruling that should be removed alongside missing the timing if konami wants to make Genesys a ''less complicated'' game. Banning cards is not making YGO any less complex.



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