What the fuck do you mean you let it die editionWiki for character guides and such (Under construction)https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/>Official linkhttps://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/>How do I get in?Click the link and register for the beta or ask in the bread for an invite code>TWO ECKS KAY OH>>540148004
Lmao whoops I made a thread too, I'll try to delete mine
>two threadsi wonder if this'll make it die 100% faster?>the same image for both OPswut
even dnfg lasted longer LMAO
>>540474215american education
>>540506201>the same image for both OPsGreat minds think alike
>WAAAGH>SKY B->SKYBONES>BOOM>PEW>PEW>WAAGH>PANCAKE>WAAGH>PAN-PANCAKE>WAAGH>BEWM>SKYBONES>BULL-SHOOTEMIFUGATTEM
>>540506564I can tell you're a zoomerI thought it was a shitty psyop myself back in the day too but nopesome people really just find that reddit humor to be the funniest shit ever idk
>>540505424>What the fuck do you mean you let it die editionLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXKOyou vappas can't even hold your own general, time to get your butts back to /fgg/ or /lolg/
>Reversal's last tourney had 0 Jinx's on top 8>TNS had a new tourney, literally 0 Jinx's even in top 16 and they pull pic relatedI told you guysI told you she sucks
Hmmmmm
>>540507912qrd on ahrii thought she was the worst in the game
>>540508158She's just lacking in some fields and her combos are inconsistentShe isn't that bad
>>540507912anyone else ever look at Illaoi's DSL's and imagine how crazy her vaccum bjs must be
>>540508330repulsive post
Riot sent another survey for the beta, check your emailsFor some retarded reason it doesn't go into the main mail pool but updates for me
>>540508681just say your pelvic floor is weaksauce buddy didn't need to type all that
>>540507727ermm bro? ever hear of the law of averages
https://youtu.be/TT2TY9KX1v8?si=qfQkSf4a6byiOMRZWhere is your team in leffens list and do you agree with him?
>>540510205Still sneething about a weak character, chud?
They're releasing the trailer for the new char after all the char trailers end right
>>540505424>What the fuck do you mean you let it die editionlast thread hit bump limit...
>>540516498i think its coming out a week before early access they should make this teemo's crouch btw
it's frustrating but im thinking of throwing away my pride and learning illaoi to go with my darius even though i hate that bitch and her stupid "MOVE MOTION KEEP MOVING MOTION" voice lines (why is she saying that kind of shit it's so weird and dumb)
>>540518641I just lost to a Darius nigga chipping me 40% hp with illaoi super assistdont do it faggot
>>540519316her tentacle slam assist just looks so tempting like it would feel so good to just walk up to midscreen vs some backdashing faggot and call it 2x
>>540518350Well it's a general you're supposed to make a new one
I want to BE Jinx!
>Get fury>Jinx can just casually chip 40% off with block anything into minigun into beam superFury is so fucking annoying
how do you even use 2x assist? i keep trying to double blitz assist but all i get is handshake tag no matter how long i wait.
>>540522925there's a tutorial, dog
>>540522925hit forwards T instead of neutral TYes, its autistic
>>540522925nvm you just have to hold forward doh>>540522697fury is the worst system mechanic imo. it's genuinely horrible. everybody hates comeback mechanics yet they always add that shit.
>yasuocuck gets destroyed>calls me a scrub for "spamming" projectilesLMAO, these niggas are so fucking corny
>>540523096Fury is overtuned, but these games do always need a comeback mechanic.without it you would just give up once your team gets wiped and you're on your last character, the chance of winning would be so minuscule.If you're consistently getting owned by fury it is on you, you should be in an insanely dominant position by being up in meter, up in burst and up in your options in both neutral and mixups.
Resource management is also a fighting game skill
>>540523535fury gives you a meaty hit when you pop it and for the actually good characters in the cast that means instantly setting up 9 way mix + 5x damage + chip shut the fuck up
>>540524094It's also safe to pop even when called out
>>540524094>>540524147Why doesn't every pro player just never burst and let their characters die? They would get to fury faster no?Every single one will always burst to save their assist. How come? Be better.
>>540524497tns grand finals last night had a lot of fury pops in it actually
>>540524962Watch the first round of each game, when every player has 75% burst and 2 100% hp characters from the getgo, what do they choose to do with it?Fury is clearly overtuned btw, you won't see me saying they shouldn't nerf it. At least they should get rid of the chip and being plus on hit.But it isn't gamebreaking, if it were truly broken and game deciding then why would you ever do a normal burst, you would save for fury every single time.If they over nerfed it dramatically, then the opposite would happen, you would never ever pop fury, you would just save your burst for the next round.
NERF THE TENTACLE SLAM SPECIAL HOLY SHIT WHY DO I HAVE TO BLOCK A RANDOM ASS FUCKING ASSIST FROM ANYWHERE ON THE SCREEN EVEN MIDAIR FROM A FUCKING SLOW SETPLAY BIG BODY CHARACTERAAAAAAAAA
>>540525985they already nerfed it, stop crying
>>540526082???Not the super tentacle slams anon the one tentacle special that's also an assist that goes fullscreenThat one wasn't nerfedHalf her moves are "tentacle slams" we need a better way of naming them
>>540525540yeah ok i'll concede on that
i hope we get some proper blance patch on the 7th. theres so much messed up shit in here.GIve me a nerf/buff that you want that you havent seen brought up yetI think illaoi shouldnt spawn tentacles when her moves are blocked
>>540527498Idc what they do as long as my boy Teemo becomes the most complained about champion on here by far
i was really having a lot more fun playing long sets without a care in the world. now it's all for internet points and everyone's freaking out over everything>>540527498>nerf you haven't heard ofthey nerfed blitz's damage proration or whatever on his rocket grab, and now my combos that start with that assist max out at like 35% of their lifebar if i spend meter. they need to do that to every single assist in the game. blitz hook is way easier to interact with, has a small, precise hitbox, and doesn't linger on the screen for 45 minutes like kekko fireball assist>buff you haven't heard ofi'd really love them to up the powerlevel on darius' fireball. it could go faster, or farther, or be bigger, but it needs more oomph because right now it's a button that only exists to be combo fodder (much like half of his kit but if i started bitching there would be no end to it)
>>540527498buff Yasuo and Illaoi
>>540527498>GIve me a nerf/buff that you want that you havent seen brought up yetJinx clompers are faster to come out or something so you have a reason to use it outside of really specific and niche combo uses with Blitz or some crapMonkey doesn't lose hitbox while being hurled upwards or being charged honestly this feels like a shitbox considering it doesn't magically lose its hitbox when being punched downwards, just upwards
i just dont understand this game's combo system man. it feels like when i'm getting combo'd they can wall bounce and otg and ground slam and wall slump me 900 times each but if i ever try it i get limit strike immediately
What the fuck is the counterplay to Illaoi tentacle super It's like jinx beam super into tag except you don't even need to tag or even make them guess to win and also cover options
>>540532423my only success against it has been pushblocking her out and trying to either snipe her with a big button or the closest tentacle with a light. but of course if she sets it up and then double downs to her other champ it's fucking over, because the other champ's animation will last long enough that you eat shit to the tentacles as soon as you wake up:)
spamming ranked has been getting a bit frustrating so im just messing around in training today and trying to find stuff with my team. baby's first tag launcher combo
Ekko would be cooler if they changed his gay as fuck fake sword with a literal non magical baseball bat
>>540527498Braum ice doesn't go away when he gets hit
having a bit of a problem where I think I'm doing too well in ranked while having barely any hours put into this game. Now I'm facing a ton of people who clearly have put a shit ton of hours already wrecking my shit. I hope they fix the inflated ranks a bit at launch.
>>540533953They won't unless someone at Riot tells them they're morons. FG devs are absolutely retarded about ranked.
>>540533595im not sure if hit is the best but he should 100% lose it on a hard knockdown, doesnt he?
>>540533953I'm sure the system is extremely inflated right now so people move up and down quickly as it's a short beta
>block Vi overhead>can't punishdo I have to parry?
>>540534856the one out of her sways? yea I think you gotta parry that
>>540534856>>540535134>Don't have meter for parry>Just eat shitYay...
>>540533595He needs some buffs but not that considering the stupid buff is designed to make you unhittable anyways you baboon
>>540535315issa tag game
>>540535315yea I hate that as well, darius is supposedly balanced by having parryable moves but if you dont have meter to spend theres no counterplay really given his reach and damage
>>540535639Yeah so she should need a tag to cover that option when you don't even have defensive assists in this game other than a singular option in 1 Braum assist
>>540535315you can 2H it
>>540536262No matter what she cancels into it from? Alright that's good to knowIs there a way to OS her throw option too, or do I really have to read and jump
When are they adding more grapplers to the game? I want a full grappler team
>>540536590I'm not sure, but I think you just back jump it
>>540535653the counterplay to darius is that hes a gigantic big body who is slow as fuck with awful frame data that loses to you calling ekko assist 1 timeparrying him doesnt even work on s2s2 because he can just delay the second one, steal your bar, and make you eat shit, but it does beat apprehend for free, so just keep 1 meter on board and he cant do that either
>>540536879you have to neutral jump it if you want a punish tho (well maybe faster characters can punish it easier)
>>540536987>the counterplay to darius is that hes a gigantic big bodyBig body hurtboxes are not that massive in the game, you can check them. Adding on, Darius has a miniscule difference between the rest of the cast compared to the other three big bodies>awful frame dataHe genuinely has some of the best framedata in the game you cock sucking aids monkey this is all public data you can check at the press of a button
>>540537263cope and seethe bro
>>540534856>>540535315you can literally just mash it and youll hit herthe startup is insane
Man, I'm having trouble extending Blitz combos with Illaoi assists. And even if manage to set up a tentacle, it doesn't reward me with anything other than solo double super. No reason to spend the tentacle on anything other than the grab reset.At least Blitz can combo from her back assist from fullscreen.
>>540539984Illaoi really doesn't benefit much from Blitz, you're better of picking anyone who can put continuous pressure as opposed to instant mix with her imo
*tentacle rapes you*
>>540537263>He genuinely has some of the best framedata in the gameCharacter:5L/5M/5HDarius:8/12/15Vi:6/11/17Jinx:7/11/16Illaoi:8/10/14Blitz:8/11/16Braum:8/14/20Ekko:6/10/13Yasuo:6/10/13Ahri:6/9/13so tell me how does this look like "some of the best frame data in the game" to you? because his frame data is only comparable with braum, and he loses to braum in some regards on top of that. the lows are even worse by quite a significant degree, most notably his 2L being NINE fucking frames of startup (tied with blitz for slowest in the game)you can check the rest for yourself because as you said "this is all public data" but dont respond to me again when you dont even know shit from fuck okay
>>540533117>spamming ranked has been getting a bit frustratingRank?
>>540544565Not even paying attention to your conversation but I'm betting it's retarded, the slow and high framed lights are all balanced by their range. You're never getting "caught out" by someone's 6F light
>>540545461grandmaster
>juggernault
>>540545675this game can be scrambly as fuck, having a 6f button is fucking huge.>compare the ranges and hitboxes broyou don't want this argument to be more lost for you than it already is
>>540541530I like big bodies, but didn't click with Darius or Braum. I think it's too early to switch characters too. Things can change, since it's just a beta.If the leaks are true, I'll give the werewolf a shot. Lolfags, how would he play? Would he have any gimmicks?
>>540546586Yea you don't play. That's fine leave it there.
>>540546431why do they get free double down on top of damage output and damage reduction?
>>540548993>>540546431>complaining about the literal worst fuse in the gameemeraldBABs…
>>540546913Warwick is pretty sick.In league he gets steroids from hitting low hp enemies and he can sniff them and see them across the map, and he regenerates a shitton of hp, so you can never be sure he’s dead until he is.This game will probably just make him a big wolverine analogue, he has big claws and bites people. Maybe he’ll get an install that gets stronger when the enemy is almost dead but idk how well that’ll work in this
why don't people abuse the shit out of chip damage? am I in bizarro world? I'm at one pixel why aren't they just throwing whatever super they have with the free meter this game gives you and instead let me get a comeback?
>>540533278It's not magic at all. It's a clock hand of a fancy but normal clock tower
Is there any way to see the cutoff for challenger? It's top 500 right? Or is it actually top 100 like the leaderboards says?
>>540529368maybe strive just didn't go far enough, they should have removed visible ranking altogether
>>540544565>Startups are all the framedataHoly shit you are acting like a legit trannyFramedata also refers to their active frames and recoveries, in which Darius is really fucking privileged to all but Yasuo and EkkoThis is ignoring his hitboxes, no more (You)'s, you literally don't know how any of this works and just mash your face on buttons
there are complete beginners making it to grandmaster bruh they need to fix this
>>540551926I remember hearing its top 200 but not sure where to verify that
>>540549951I actually do this, most of these guys aren't used to fightan I guess
>>540549951>>540554136legit best use for jinx beam super ive found, if they are in range you just cold whip it and theyre gone if they arent parry gods
>>540554417Parry doesn't stop chip damage here
>>540527498>nerfreduce how long the ekko projectile can stay out while still being able to stun you mid airincrease jinx stun cooldownmake darius air moves more negative>buffgive vi dash a bit more duration of invul so i can actually approach people on vi solo juggbuff braum poro throw in exchange for nerfing his freeze damageand please god make teemo shrooms traps on the map so i can slam dunk people onto them with vi
>>540554745wait, WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?
>>540554771>give vi dash a bit more duration of invul so i can actually approach people on vi solo juggNigger WHATIt's nearly completely projectile invul, how are you this bad
>>540554876ive had multiple instances of shimmying through a missile, then still somehow getting hit by the thing behind mejust a couple more frames to iron that outa bunch more if they want this game to be casual
>learn basic ass yasuo combo with barely any execution does 75%>with fury its a TODwhat the fuck is wrong with this game
>>540554825Do you automatically believe people here?
>>540554771>vi dash more invulnyou cannot be this retarded...Vi dash needs significantly less range and invuln. additionally, it shouldnt be able to be chained back to back, makes it impossible to interact with her.Also they need to make her punch super cover a lot less distance and have no hit invuln. projectile fine, maybe only on startup, but there is no excuse for her having the only invuln on startup super, let alone one that is fully invincible throughout the whole thing. plus it needs to push back much less on block so its easy to punish.Shes so privileged its insane
>>540554745bullshit faggot
>>540554987Man, I really hope they nerf fury, I'm not even that much against comeback mechanics, but this shit's retarded
>>540554969It is already plenty casual, I have no idea how you can suck this muchIt needs nerfs
>>540555153ill take reduced distance and invul if it means i can crossup with it better desu
>>540555198Rank?
>>540555275you can crossup with it from half screen, how are you struggling with that?
This Vi guy must be baiting just like the darius spammer
>>540555495>
>>540555495
>>540555275kys retardfaggot asking for buffs for a top tier charactershould blow your brains out
>>540523535shut the fuck UP nerdjoshthe comeback mechanic is that you can still call your fucking assist even though it's dead AND they get an empowered autowin neutral version
>>540555198I dont think its that bad, its just a noob stomper is all
>>540557715Newfag alert if you think the assist or the super assist is even worth DICK and PISS in this game.You want to know what's broken? its the active tag that makes any mixup you do plus on block, makes every neutral interaction a ToD, makes any commitment or any whiff or any anything have 0 consequences because suddenly you aren't wherever you made a mistake you're half a screen away or directly behind the motherfucker.No matter how overtuned fury is, if you lose a character the round is LOST unless you either pull a miracle out of your gaping asshole or the opponent literally doesn't know how the most insane mechanic in the history of fighting games works
>>540522015i could use a jinx to assist me in and out of a match
bros, this is my duosend help
dash? cancelled.whiff? PUNISHEDfilthy jugger yasfag? DOWN1!!
>>540561705>didn't show the 2xk0 screen>ekko yas duoDeserved I hope your friend keeps missing his assist calls
got my first ragequit fellashow do i pushblock
>>540564402press assist while in blockstun
>>540505424when my buddy is playing darius and grabs me he is able to hit me with the otg fireball into super, and it feels gay to be punished so much off of a grabhe swears that every character is able to do SOME follow up after grabs, especially in corner, but im unable to find anything meaningful on braum or ahri. is there anything? the only thing i can do on braum is grab > ultra or grab > standing heavy (5H). after the 5H i dont see what i can do
>>540564582You can mitigate any weakness by just calling an assist to extend. Just 5H, call assist and go crazy.But yeah, most of the reason people don't think Ahri or Braum are any good are because they have very little off their throw. There are champs that provide easy otg access like jinx, vi and illaoi though, Vi Ahri is relatively successful because you can just call Vi back assist and pick up Ahri's throw
>>540564582ahri doesn't get anything soloshe needs an assist to pick up for her
>>540555198Diaphone said Fury wasn't OP, Supernoon came in the chat to tell him it's busted30% more damage and 25% less damage taken alongside the dash cancel and movement speed is too fucking much, they could cut it by half
>>540565320>Diaphone said Fury wasn't OP,Yeah he said it was OP if you could get it out but obviously you don't want to lose your assist in the first place
Here's ANOTHER new top 8, with 180 entrants0 Jinx 0 Braum again
biig ZAAP
>backdashing until assist comes up>they have one basic fucking plan and it's effective because you can't chase them down while they wait for assist to come off CD>this is every fucking match with vi/yasuo/ekko in masters/grandmastersi'm going to become the joker
Every time I lose in neutral it looks like this.
>TNS live tourney jinx ahri team in grand finalsJinx is weak bros...
>>540566481This is Chris G in a tourney with literally zero other notable players.You don't know the FGC bud
>>540566481>grand finalsNigger it's not even finals yet
>>540566580Chris G is a nobody
>>540565848why arent u just putting them in the corner bwo?
>>540566589He got out of winners bracket, he's already top 2
>Just ignore the 6 Ekko's bro focus on the 1 character presence in a 16 character bracket
>>540566838>approach them>they reverse course and punish your approach any number of ways
>>540566589Watch your mouth
Illaoi is so annoying
I'm so bored of these characters, man
>No winrate stats>No total wins>No ranked record>No ratiosIs riot this bad in league of legends too?
>Vi/Blitz>nonstop Vis>nonstop Ekkos>nonstop Yasuosi dunno why i keep ramming my head against this fucking dumbshit game but i think it might be best to just wait a year and come back to it
Ekko's color scheme is gay.
PANCAKE
it's friday nightwho wants to play some games
>>540569256rank?
>>540570079low gm
>>540566241>yasuo heavy into lvl 3>with that much hp leftguy should have the decency to not let you watch a whole ass cutscene and do an actual combo jesus
>>540570142ok sure im down
make a room niggers
>>540570204youve never been so mad at the other player that you sent his ass to the movies for no reason?
>>540568361actually, in this regard kinda they had a greyed out statistics tab in the client for years
>>540570317no? i try to not overextend shit if i know its gonna kill. you've seen the cutscene, i've seen the cutscene and if the opponent does it to me, then i just alt tab till its over or check my phone in the meantime. it just wastes everyones time
>>540569140it was cooler in league yeah.They took out all of his whites, and gave him a lot of pink now for some reasonAnd his shade of blue is a lot more teal everywhere, much less cool
>>540570317rarely ever but sometimes they really do deserve it. haven't done it in 2xko yet tho
>>540570571Ekko was supposed to be indian.This is indian erasure.
>>540570142yo whats up
>>540570213>>540570265ok gamers the lobby is openpn9gsct6pn9gsct6pn9gsct6it's set to ft2 for now in case we have an odd number but i can change it as needed
>>540566481Lmao he actually won with jinx braum
>>540571183i set it to ft2 but it's just kind of automatically making us rematch over and over it seems!
>>540572083He doesn't even play that comp, not even as his secondaryImagine styling on a tourney that hard
>>540569172Tummy
>>540571183wp man fun games
>>540577007ggs thanks for playing such a long set despite caving my fucking skull in lolive seen someone post a few times about braum having "a bad anti-air" but there were a few times when i was a mile behind you and still got cooked by that shit eaaaagh
>>540577054yeah people say braum has a bad anti air but it's just not the case. you just have to do it slightly later than some others. the backwards hitbox is insane.
>>540577305i feel like i need to try using darius' dp vs. him more because (similarly to darius) since you can mix up how long you hold each of his "predictable" attacks he's actually a lot harder to parry than he seemsas blitz idk WTF to do but next time i fight a braum i'll at least try that hahah
What has better synergy? Illaoi/Blitz - Double Down or Illaoi/Braum - Whatever fuse is best?
>>540510205I thought Ahri was bottom 1
>>540577728i think in this game basically any character can win. there's clear "stronger" and "weaker" characters but it never really feels to me like any character is truly hopeless or weak and if you get your hands on the opponent you can absolutely fuck them up
>>540578010that having been said you can basically ignore anyone who would ever even fucking DARE to imply that the only char with an airdash in a tag fighter is "weak"
>>540578113thisahri is very goodarguably the best neutral game in the gamei think i may learn her soon
>>540572083https://www.youtube.com/live/v-p-BlqBcOs?si=74RcD1KVPiKZrQ4y&t=22341The set since i figure most people haven't seen any braum played, let alone jinx braum
>>540579928really good stuffjust like mvc3 he's trying to find something to control the crazy pace of this gamei really like it. freestyle into the shield slam for free shield buff is really smart.
wondering how much cosmetics will cost
>>540505424The game is becoming a Yasuo and Ekko simulator. I had fun bros, but im calling it now, if those two dont get a serious nerf to their toolkits, its over. The game wont last. Even in the esports scene. Nobody wants to see the one and the same character in top 8.
>>540554987I'm really hoping it's just a phase that the devs are collecting data with because they originally said this game was not supposed to be super combo heavy and full of ToD; this was true in the first beta and mostly true in the second. It's out the fucking window in this version.
>>540585284the question is, how do you reduce it? if you just make the combos shorter, they're less fun to do. if you just lower the damage, then the game overall feels worse: nobody wants to feel like their characters got weaker
>>540586157What do you mean, you mindless baboon?Of course the solution to combos being too long and doing too much damage is making them shorter and do less damageYou know the game is doomed because Riot caters to troglodytes like you
>>540585284I think they're terrified of ending up like the last beta where every match ended in timeouts and people fell asleep watching lol
>>540593580It's funny because I keep winding up in matches where there's 3 seconds left on the clock because my opponents just fucking run, waiting for assists.I spend the entire fucking match chasing them and even when I do win, it feels like I wasted my own fucking time
>>540595587that's meyou're going against mebecause that's just the most consistent way to playwhy put myself at risk, when i could always engage with ekko assist?not going to lie, tag games suck
>>540596239I can't even fault you for playing that way because it fucking works. But it's insanely annoying. I'm used to dealing with players like that in other games but they're not impossible to catch, they're just annoying. In tuko, with it being a tag fighter, you're putting yourself at risk because getting clipped just once means you're losing 50-60% of your health in your effort to pursue your opponent
ahri needs buffsmake coldstar great again
>>540597569>wanting to give a top 10 character buffs
https://youtube.com/shorts/3RCVXNnZ51I?si=vIEovedumGfLW5mChow do we not have a single void champion in game yet
What's the point of all the game's complexity just for it's combos to be boring as shit? People saying if you don't like the game it's just because it's too complex for you, but I fucking love Melee and playing that game requires encyclopedic knowledge of all the tech and the skill to it takes to use it. This game gets boring after like 3 matches because the combo structure and disturbingly low amount of neutral.
>>540599002Thia game is played either in your face or fullscreen run away. If any one starts talking about whiff punishing and footsies in this game they are giga nigga retarded monkeys. The game was supposed to be beginner friendly, but all my non fighting game friendsndropped it within the hour. Saying its too complex, too many mechanics, too fast paced and most of the time the screen is full of characters and becomes a visual cluster fuck. I dont mind it, but the game is everything but beginner friendly. If casuals dont hop on the game its going to be a rough ride. Its f2p game and it will need the casuals wallet to sustain it self. Currently, i dont see that happening. I personally have gripes with ekko and yas, but over all i like it, but casuals wont. I see the game getting maybe a year. Before it will go on maintanance mode and eventually die off. Its a shame, i waited for it for 9 years.
>>540599769>beginner friendlyIt's insane because I don't even know what happened to that mission statement/goal. I had been telling my non-fightan friends that this game (and grabloo) were good jumping on points and while it's not as complex as say, UNI, it's still a visual clusterfuck with mechanics that even I've forgotten about
>only people covering this game are gg/dbfz tards like diaphone, sonicfox, and sajam
implying the scammon brothers didn't sell riot a bridge telling them they'd make a beginner friendly game to reach a "wider audience" when they just wanted to make marvel with smash inputs
>>540603346even as a shitpost this genuinely feels like what happened lol
Reminder that this game is dead in less than 6 months and you could be practicing muscle memory or matchups for a real fighting game
>>540604462such as? Don't tell me granpoo, mashen and sleep fighter, they all suck
>>540604462i'll play it until the day it shuts downevery battle pass, always staying challengerwell, unless they release guiltygear x blazblue or 1xko
>>540599942I know what you mean. I have been playing fighting games on and off for about 20 years now. And even i have trouble keeping up with whats going on at times. Its clearly developed for high top 500 play. The casual shit is just bad marketing that will kill the game. No casual/beginner will stick with it. 5 friends tried it. All of them quit within the hour.
it is playable for casuals, thoughhow do you argue against LMH 2H jLMHS super super?
>>540608503The argument is, guard dash, break, fury, parry, push guard all the assist shit. And we havent even touched the Yasuo and Ekko bullshit. And the visual cluster fuck on the screen is major turn off for many. Also if you constantly run into players who run away and only interact with you when you chase them, it gets real frustrating real fast. And most people quit when they get frustrated. And then there is the offense, when you start blocking it feels like its all you do and nobody really loses their turn.
>>540610169you only fight those people once you get up to that levelbut casuals will fight other casuals that don't know those mechanics or how to abuse degenerate tag gameplay
>>540608503Please understand, the doomfag needs to larp as having infinite potential for friends that it can duo with
>>540599942>It's insane because I don't even know what happened to that mission statement/goalUm, bro? There's no motion inputs. It's perfect for casuals now.I've genuinely never had a casual friend complain about motion inputs. It's always that they don't want to learn a basic combo or anything like that and get confused at how to stop someone ungaing at them. Which basically every motion inputless game doubles down on, especially 2XKO.
The game can’t be doing too good if riot has to resort to paying streamers like ……………..zdamascus
>>540610169My first fighting game (other than smash) was a tag game and when I was a casual at it, nobody was doing those mechanics manYou just run at each other and mash autocombos and complain about whatever hitbox is the biggestWe legit played bbtag in my friend group for like 6 months before anyone figured out what a cross combo or an active tag was
>>540610674Im not a doomfag. I actually like the game personaly. I just dont thinknthe game has a casual/beginner vibe to it and the top 500 players will never be enough to justify the cost for the games up keep. I dont think you realize how important it is to have a casual player base for continiued support for a game. I still remember the days on ijji.com playing kwonhoo with a playerbase of 300 before it shut down after like 6 months or so. And the game was a fun f2p fighting game.
>>540616084Idk that game but I imagine kwonhoo wasn't ridden with complicated tag mechanics right? but that didn't help it appeal to casuals anyways, right?The things casuals value are the superfluous stuff like graphics, playing with friends, game popularity, constant updates and battlepasses and shit. MOBAs have a consistent casual playerbase despite being hard to get into, hard to master and even harder one-sided stomps than fighting games can be. If you were to see the gameplay loop of a moba in a vacuum, would you say that game has a casual/beginner vibe?Not to say 2xko is guaranteed to succeed at all, I'm just saying complex gameplay doesn't ever scare away casuals.
>>540616953Fair enough and for whats it worth, i do hope i am in the wrong here. Even with your reasonable examples, i just dont see it. That being said, im still going to play the game and hoping it will last forxyears to come.
wrt motion inputs,casuals won't complain about motion inputs,but they do struggle with them, a loti've taught several friends, and sf6 was particularly difficultdoing something like 'medium medium special super' was always an ordealeven with my guidance, telling them all the quirks of the combo, and how to read the input history,it'll take some an hour to do the comboand to this day, some still can't do special motions consistentlymaybe they'll press the attack button too early before completing the motionmaybe they'll press the attack button too late, missing the cancel windowit sounds like they're retarded, but they're notthey're master/diamond/ascendant in their own genresbut teaching them LMH jLMHS super? they had that down within minutes
vi is SO trash bros
The actual gold 3 turbo casual experience btwhttps://youtu.be/0mEVRATXcH0?si=PWjJiKGI8Ne-e2A1
>>540622159cinema
Not being able to downback on wakeup is the single dumbest design choice in all fighting gamesEverything and everyone always body blocking in a tag game is probably the second
>>540622787Wait is that how I keep getting blown up? I swear I didn't input to roll and instead I'm exploding when I'm trying to downback
>>540623434Yes downback defaults to backroll and if you try to jump on your wakeup with a fuzzy jump you better be holding up for a gay jump or enjoy getting thrownThe devs are actual retards for giving priority to rolls when holding just left or right isn't a difficult task
>>540622787i may just be an anime shitter but chicken blocking being so dogshit in this game makes me irrationally mad, the body block shit is also up there. i could also go on about how all of the big bodies minus maybe illaoi are handcrafted to be the most scrub friendly, retard proof characters possible. an easy example is that one darius combo where one of his moves has so much fucking hitstun that you'd think it'd drop but nope its all true
finally getting the hang of handshake tagging againThe fact they put both assist and tag on the same button raped my muscle memory for a while but im getting back in the saddle
>>540612334Damascus is a goat
>>540628430He is, that guy is solely responsible for upholding the EU FGC during covid
Here's another indication that ranks mean literally nothingThis guy doesn't know any combo notations and he's in plat.Ranks are meaningless.
STUPID FUCKING CHAMPION btw
>>540628714>Getting caught in her domain expansionYour fault bruv
>>540628714This eating all projectiles needs to change honestly, she can't have the best setup in the game and screen presence in the game and also destroy everything with one button
When are we going to get good characters on the roster with some fucking personality?
>>540628853That move also has a hitbox that's only rivaled by Yasuo 5M in how retarded the hitbox/hurtbox ratio is
>>540628970>Jinx has no personalityYea just uninstall the game dawg
>>540628970this we need annie
>>540629041>Annie>PersonalityShe has none, the fuck anonWe need Draven if we want personality
>>540629028Jinx does but the manic girl trope has been so fucking overplayed she is just cookie cutter at this point.
>>540628668Retard bro... If you're dumb enough to fall for click bait titles, ranked should be the least of your worries
>>540628668>darius blitz playeryeah checks out
>>540628668I saw a clip of him talking about FADCs and shit, he's probably just baiting for clips and you're playing right into it for him.
>>540629885yeah the bald guy's actual rank is gold so his point is even stronger what a fool he fell for it
>>540629271she has more than enough personality for my penis
There is literally zero counterplay against jump back projectile
>>540630814there is oneits called pick yasuo
>>540631076honestly debating on learning yasuo since it feels like i can't keep up with zoning (backdash)
>>540629345Kinda wish they went with the Arcane Jinx. I know, I know, but base League Jinx is flavorless and tired now>>540629041>Annielook anon I had nearly every Annie skin circa 2015. i played that crayon-eating champ because i sucked shit at anything else. she has absolutely zero presence
the characters in this game are so easy that it'd be ridiculous if the harder characters weren't broken
>>540630814Parry it and you can get in, I think I've seen people get a punish that way
>>540628970League has this problem where all the characters they make are just generic stoic or generic determinedThey champs with actual identities are few and far between and often get retconned into becoming generic stoic like what happened to MF and ahri
I hit GM now what do I do.When are we having lobbies fellas
>>540632291why should the "harder" characters be broken when the "harder" characters are .1% harder than the easy ones?
>>540591424okay, how do you make combos shorter? it's easy enough to make yasuo's combos shorter, but considering the REALLY long combos make elaborate use of the fuse systems that are intertwined with the game's inherent design, you'd have to change a lot more than "idk make it to where x and y don't link anymore."it's like saying "sf6 is so bad, just add more neutral by taking out slime rush." like that game IS slime rush. you can't have it without slime rush.
https://old.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1nru2lj/you_should_not_60_damage_off_of_a_throw/Honeymoon's ending
bro goes on reddit
buddy browses reddit holy shit it's over
this game is redditcore
>>540642343because you deserve to lose for not putting the .1% effort in
>>540650838>for not putting the .1% effort inAt that point, you're just saying people deserve to lose for not picking the broken characters. You know that, right?
What teams is /2xkog/ running? I'm playing sidekick ahri with vi
>>540651074yes. your winrate should be like 10% if you are some blitz/braum glue eater or something
>>540651198ekko players are literally winning by pressing s1you're the glue eater bitch
>>540651076jinx vi Double D'sConsidering how insanely boring Jinx is in LoL she's really fun in this. Vi is a bit too straightforwards but she is satisfying
>>540561705this is an actual friendship ruiner ngl
>>540561705>on the last round toodamnI've got some happy birthdays but that's brutal
Bros this game is so fun
this retard keeps posting screenshots
KEKhttps://www.twitch.tv/gsmvoid/clip/LitigiousBlushingBaboonMau5-Y4yuczfCsEK8ZZwR
>>540659327im a photographermy shots tell the story to people who care to read them
>>540659734>he still fucking killed someone despite this
>>540651076Vi/ Ekko double down. This game was made for me, 2 of my favorite characters and I can main them without having to play league. Truly a dream come true.
Another empowered woman, what a surprise RIOT, who would have guessed it?, they could have brought Shen, Udyr, Lee Sin, but they could not avoid bringing the empowered woman with pink short hair
you have no idea how much fun it is absolutely robbing people with yasuo assist super, they were cooking with that one
>>540660461who are you event alking aboutdid briar get confirmed
>>540661947can you reply to me with every in game character's name
>>540616953That’s a good point, I honestly don’t know why MOBAs are so popular given how abstruse they are. Never played one myself either so I can’t really speak from experience.I know with fighting games they are VERY unfun and unintuitive if you just try to pick them up as a curious beginner. You have to make an active decision to want to learn the game at a high level, before you even actually start playing, in order to have the motivation to stick around. Most people won’t do that; it’s a chicken and egg problem. I assume that MOBAs somehow make that initial ~40 hours more appealing to total beginners.
vi would probably be good if you didn't need to do 5 electrics to do the same damage everyone else does
do you think they fucked
>>540662548Am I the only one who thinks she's easily top 3
>>540662818god i hope>b-but her corner carry!!!conveniently leaves out the part where she puts you into a true blockstring afterwards literally only so you can tag into an actually good character safely
>>540662176>I assume that MOBAs somehow make that initial ~40 hours more appealing to total beginners.They really dontAny newfag is encouraged to play at least a dozen bot games, sometimes more, before even queuing up for a normal game. Easily 5-8 hours of time playing against shitbots is essentially mandatory.The thing is you can do that with a friend, bot games as a group was something I still remember doing back in the day with the boys
I got to master without knowing the input for throw, parry or the little blue wakeup attack people do lol. Also never learned a bnb.
>>540505424Why does it look like a newground java game?
>>540665317riot fell for the cel shaded meme
i still think yasuo is saying tasumaki really fast instead of hasagi
>>540666098SUSHI
>>540664512idk how to do retreating guard and i play jinx
>>540664512at the moment, the ranks mean nothingwe'll have to see when there's a larger playerbase to know how inflated and meaningless it really is
When the FUCK are they adding a generic shoto
it'll be ezrealshooting out Q fireballs
>>540668731I do actually think Ez would be coolCan give him some big punches with the gauntlet going crazy or maybe it becomes able to make a magic sword too instead of just being a magic bowIt's going to be Lee though sorry manSidenote why the FUCK doesn't Vi have a dragon punch wtfThere isnt a single big uppercut swing in the entire game
What if it isn't TeemoWhat if it's Kindred
what the game really needs is a female character who isn't DEI bait (vi, illaoi) or level 1 coomerbait (jinx, ahri)
I try fighting gaem for first time and that freestyle tutorial made me insane.Maybe I'm not made for this shit.
>>540670760>still complaining about DEI>2025
any bbtagbros in hereanyone remember this combowhen we getting this
dying to chip in this game feels so fucking lame
>>540662818Yea that is just you man. Darius is better than Vi
>>540672061Chipp kills shouldn't exist in a game with high activity, I'll die on that hill.Keep chip kills for games like street fighter, not games that have high octane 50/50 mix after ever knockdown. You should be rewarded for good defense, not punished.
>>540672341Darius is so much easier to shut down. I'll concede that she's not top 3, but she's easily top tier. Probably just Yasuo > Ekko > Jinx > Vi.I feel like her hyper mobility and donkey-easy ass combos make her a constant threat, especially with her pressure and OTG options. Even without her electrics, she's terrifyingly good
>>540672061the chip in this game is quite ridiculous yes, outside of like illaoi tentacle pressure you should not be taking 30% of your health because you dared to block instead of instantly getting your opponent off you with pushblock
why is the lobby system so ass
>>540674579arcsys lobby pandemic
>>540674579No sense of scale, the lobby is cramped and you're always playing people from different lobbiesAvatars are kinda uglyNo funny emotes or stickers until you play 10 hoursCant erp or do dance parties
nothin like losing to a shitty jinx who just wake up level 3s and you can't fucking punish them for it
>>540675026This game needs a chocolate waifu bad
ngl bros, the one sided PnZ is going to kill this game...
nothin like beating a sweatlord by just wake up reversal level 3ing his bitch ass trying to mix me
>>540675693i'm going to put you in a 50/50 where i may milk your dick or fucking kill you you limpless bitch
>>540672721Illaoi is so much better than ViShe does everything that Vi does but better and bigger
I can't beat level 5 bots in practice.Is it over?
i think the game is pretty enoughnot at the level of arcsys games but it's a close secondthe only char i don't really like is Vi, but she feels unfinished. Her model is kinda ugly, the ultimate sucks and there are some really bad animations like the multipunch move where her whole torso is completely static. Hope they fix her cause she is fun to play
>>540677908>the ultimate sucks and there are some really bad animations like the multipunch move where her whole torso is completely static.Eh every single ultimate has issuesJinx has a great first part, her rocket just goes through the ground on the second partAhri has so many camera cuts you would think it's a holywood action movieDari has no strength behind his hitsEkko's is just plain boring apart from the hit gimmick Braum has too much buildup and it ends up being a meme super anywaysIllaoi has a cool gimmick but just doesn't do anything at the end
>>540677908her winpose when she sits down really stands out to meHer face just doesnt look like any of the other character's faces and it's barely animated, shit's weird
So no updates till the 7th?
>>540678117i really like ahri's and yasuo's>>540678157she seems the most incomplete of the bunch, even her moveset is more limited
>>540677908can't believe we have implied supers in the big 25 :broken_heart:
>>540678260Yeah Yasuo's is the most developed one imo, but Ahri's need work. No hard hitting last hit, stupid amount of camera jumps
>go on losing streak>look up smut of all the League champions I'd rather have in 2XKO
>>540651076Vi/Illaoi
>>540651076I'm waiting for Teemo to pair him with Jinx, doing Blitz with her till he releases
>>540679605Diaphone...
https://www.twitch.tv/valorant_jpnJapanese exhibition with Kazunoko and Nemo on two eks key oooh
>>540679665Fuck off, I run this team since way before that fag did
>>540679783we're here
>>540679929wrong, my GOAT is the first one who ever put those two on the same team
>>540679783most people playing 2XKO don't know who these two are
>>540651076yasuo/ekko with my friendsyasuo/jinx when solo
>>540679783wtf unconkable speaks japanese
>>540679783white dude speaking perfect japanese is fucking sending me right now lmao
that's dogura and [no idea who]
>>540662176>I assume that MOBAs somehow make that initial ~40 hours more appealing to total beginners.I think team games are just inherently easier to pick up because you can easily play with friends of various skill levels and teach each other while everybody has a good time. I'm much, much better than my friends at shooters but I can still play Valorant with people who have barely touched the genre and we can all have fun and I can try to set them up for success. Trying to play an FG as an experienced player with someone whose brand new to them is a miserable experience for both players in comparison. I can imagine those same people getting into a game like SF but I doubt they'd have nearly as much fun playing me in it as they do playing with me in Valorant.
Holy shit you can tell he has no idea how to play a tag fighter and probably doesn't even know how to play 2xko
tachikawa knows how to playdogura does not lolhe even picked pulse, so yeavery lopsided match
>>540680519most japs aren't into tag fightersnemo used to play marvel 3 tho
I speak japanese the guy in the hat said the combos are really long
>>540680346
>>540680787holy shit its Near
>>540680787The Accelerator....
>>540680116Half the people here are dbfz fags, why wouldn't they know kazunoko
>>540681541why do people draw this way
>>540682239you mean women
>>540681541wtf this shit ain't moe
>>540682239i dont think anything's really wrong with that drawing other than i hate ekko and jinx
>>540683710it's feminine and not sexualized, it reeks of xx chromosomesi hate it
>>540664512im sure you did anon
>>540679783first time seeing that cool ekko combo that kazunoko always does. Why no one of the NA faggots do it?
>>540674579this game's lobby is terrible (on purpose)watching other people's matches is a nice touch though, somehow the retarded jap devs missed that for grub
i kind of feel like i need to take a break from this game. it feels so hopeless when yasuo or ekko is on the screen.
>>540684438timestamp please
>>540676879Whats the problem you think you're having?
>>540684802despair and DIE
Why did you guys link this TGS 2xko shit knowing damn well all those japs don't know how to play aside from kazunoko and tachikawa with day 1 tech
>>540684438you are dumb
>>540685170i waited 6 years to watch yasuo backdash until i dare press a button and then eat shit
nah they need to add not cancellable recovery frames to backdashes. This shit is retarded and looks goofy af
>fighting a Yasuo >block 99% of his mix-up shit>get clipped by stance cancel into short hop into 5L>eat an entire fucking cutscene directed by Hideo fucking Kojima>lose 60%>Yasuo clips me randomly from near fullscreen>eat the sequel the cutscene from earlierwhy did they give this nigga huge ass hitboxes and the ability to combo off of any stray fucking hit. a brief combo would make sense. a fucking 15-20 second long combo is another
>>540685963>some of the best frame data in the game>buttons are .1% smaller than those of the big bodies>damage is higher than that of the big bodies>has every tool in the game except a non-universal reversalMAKE IT MAKE SENSE
i dont like when people spectate my games in lobbies.
>>540505424MarlinPie, champ designer who made Yasuo and others, on stream said he needs to play Zato in Xrd "for a reason"What LOL characters would make good puppet characters in 2XKO?
>>540688696one of my "wow who would have seen this coming" picks for this game is actually rakan + xayah as a duo character. either like melty maids or like a more typical puppet.maybe ivern+daisy? annie+tibbers?
>>540688696doesn't he just play xrd zato a lot
Most of ahris optimal combos requiring a half charge jH has to be the most annoying thing possible to learnIs there some trick, or will I just magically get the muscle memory down eventually after spam fucking it up
>>540688696it's crazy because he already deserves to be executed live on stage for making yasuo the way he didimagine what he'll make next
>>540688696Lots of candidates for a puppet character, but Vex seems like she would be the most Zato-like of them.
>>540689167dont you just let go as soon as the character turns red for a moment?
>>540688696Zed
>>540689550Zed will never be a puppet character
>>540689302>VexShe's my favorite yordle but I think she'd honestly be a good candidate for inclusion because her shadow could double as a hurtbox
>>540674579I dont like lobby syatems in general. Gibe me an option to queue up in training mode. Waiting for a match doing nothing in the lobby is pure torture for my ADHD.
>Watching tokon showcase>People keep calling it way more grounded and sane>Even the basic shoto Cap can jump higher than the cast we have can, do something like a fucking air DP or air fireball and recover faster than people do in this game doing grounded medium buttonsI'm getting tired of how sluggish this game is
>>540689550If they make Zed a Zato ripoff that'll be one of the most disappointing things of all timeClones should only facilitate or copy his attacks they shouldn't be separate things
>>540692235on the one hand im not looking forward to zed being able to basically do freestyle tier mix by himself without a fuse helping him do iton the other hand at least he'll be a palatable character that i'll have an interest in trying out
>>540692068anyone who says tokon is grounded is completely insaneThey traded in slower and stubbier horizontal mobility than mahvel or 2ko for doublejumps, airdashes and free-flight. It's just a different axis on which the tagslop can act
>>540684802I learned from the man the myth the legend, the goat LTG. If i see Ekko or Yas i just think to my self, im not playng this bum. Just alt tab and go afk. Fuck Yas and Ekko players, im not taking the mix. Im not playing these bums.
>>540688696Azir or Zed. I would cum my pants if either of them gets announced, seeing as I'm a zattychaddy
>>540689167you just get used to the timingEvery character's optimal combos are fairly tricky to execute, it's all generally pretty tightBut they all also have easy combos that almost do the same amount of damage, except for ahri lol
>>540692759i'm still playing the full set against them every time, but every encounter leaves me more and more tempted to one and done them. i swear to god every time i see roundstart backdash spam i just wonder why i waited so long to play this game.
>>540693232>please run into my mashing
>>540693446>please run into my timewinder assist
>>540693546this game is so fucking crazy that if you seriously just dash in at round start and start hitting buttons i question your sanity.
>>540693232Isn't dashspam forwards always just better than backdash spam? Even against Yas and Ekko they should recover slower and go less far than you do, and if you know they're going to call assist you can tap dash hold back
>>540693669yes, by a lot. and the stages aren't huge either so it's not hard to chase people down. even braum can chase people down effectively.
>urge to play>it's after midnight on a Friday/Sat morn>all the sweats will be on
>>540693606plenty of vi players simply press s1 round start (there is no way for me to interact with this other than guessing she'll do it, it beats every option both of my characters have other than "jump back and pray")
>>540694231yeah she's probably the only one who can just mash her face at round start and win out most times. vi players are indeed psychos and the character is retarded
>>540693773>so it's not hard to chase people downi just dont agree and even if you do corner jinx it's not like her spam leaves openings if the player isn't shit you're not touching her perioddont even get me started on cornered yasuo. gee i sure can't wait to interact with wind wall+fullscreen mist finer
>>540694871ive played so many yasuos I can just parry his silly stance attacks when I dash at him nowClosing the distance in this game is not hard all it takes is two hits of the dash macroThe hard part is actually outboxing him or when he starts dashing at me
>>540695221>Closing the distance in this game is not hard all it takes is two hits of the dash macrobrother you are dashing through timewinder, or jinx rockets, or tentacle slam or whatever the fuck else, running away is strong as hell...
>>540685136just everything I guess. When to block, attack, etcIs there like a frame to frame analysis video of the whole fighting game thought process?
>>540697390nope u just put in time and get better graduallywatch footage and see how people apply offense and how they move in and out of ranges
>>540688696he's definitely talking about zed
>>540697390The sad truth about fighting games is training mode. The people who put the time into training mode improve. Its a boring process and dry process for beginners and casuals. Just like you grind for gear in mmorpg-s you grind the training mode until everything you do becomes second nature. Every now and then you jump online. See how much you have progressed. Figting game fags enjoy this procesa, most domt and dont give it a chance. But if u stick to it. I promise you will gradually see resulta.
>>540697390if you play a few games online and then watch the replays and go "hm how did i lose what happened" and really try to analyze that, it can help a lot
>>5406887642 in 1 would ruin the point of the game being co-op
>>540699972yeah... c-co-op, haha...
>try to do placement matches>5+ minutes to find a matchthey're seriously fucking retarded if they launch with this lobby bullshit as their ranked system
>>540700540the ranked queue pulls from all lobbies but you're trying to do placements at a weird hour
getting robbed in this game feels so much worse than it did in dix. in that game it was like "well no shit, he turned green and jumpscared me ggs" this it's like "cool yasuo super assist killed me frame 3 from full screen"
>>540700540to be fair its gonna be better once the open beta hits, right now theres not enough players and many are taking a break because none of the progress is gonna carry over anyways.
if i made a webm every time vi randomly phased through a pushblock or a break and just wasn't affected by it for no reason i'd legitimately have like 80 webms of it happeningi hate this cunt so much it's unreal
>>540702335bro it's a tag game. for how much I hate dix, it's still a grounded and slow paced game and, most importantly, not tag kuso shitalso this game is balance by riot so figures
>>540703618tuko literally has more neutral than dix
>>540703712kek I don't know how to argue that, you're probably right, which is fucking funny
>>540703810as much as i truly hate watching yasuo backdash 80 times in .5 seconds and then call 2x ekko assists, i'd still rather do this over and over than watch mai throw an ex fan and instantly win the round lol
okay hitting coward's bane feels so FUCKING good actually. i've been using it a lot tonight and i think it's a lot stronger than i realized, gonna have to try and find a good combo off of it and stop being scared to press it
i need some ahri combos badlyi've been neglecting her since she lost her alpha1 combos
>>540705494>>540717638>3 hours between postslmao
I think people actively shitting on this game hard aren't fighting game fans to be honest.We have some of our Tag game/Anime game goats heavily involved in development and it obviously is a fast paced game with a lot of sauce. How can you hate that? If you have ever enjoyed a previous game of the same ilk this has to be a dream. I think it must be newfags who are the most upset. When you hear marlinpie, apologyman, combofiend are on the team you should be hype, to them it's "who?!"You guys don't like passion projects.
>>540717806wow crazy how not a single marvelfag switched over and it's just dbfz and strivers
>>540717916>who is chris g>who is justin wong>who is filipinochamp>who is rayray
>>540717806I was going to throw a functions meme at you but I don't know that any of those fags actually know how to make a good game. The best players in the world of every genre will often suggest retarded-ass changes to whatever game it is that they play. Personally my complains are>10XKharactersOnlaunch>Fuses seem like a stupid band-aid that they had to slap on when they realized they'd have such a tiny roster>Lobby system is somehow worse than ArcSys lobbies>some input reader things are strange, such as how the game interprets dash macro shortcuts. This probably won't come up for pad players.>Some of the more obnoxious characters/archetypes also seem to be extremely strong.
>>540717916that's just not true
>>540719085Most of your complaints are outside of gameplay.Nobody would defend the 9 characters obviously.Fuses are cool and a good idea, brings variety.Lobbies are always going to be gay unfortunatelyI'm a pad player I don't know what dash macro problems there are it works for me. Been using dash macro in dbfz and strive.They want the design of the characters to be obnoxious, I remember reading patch notes and they prefer to buff things than nerf things. I personally hate illaoi I think this bitch is insane but Balance is mostly ok, certainly not enough to throw the game out.
hey what's up /2xkog/shaun hereit's been great to see y'all cook
>>540720609People above the age of 35 shouldn't use any memes whatsoever
>>540717806>We have some of our Tag game/Anime game goats heavily involved in developmentWhat we actually have is a bunch of nepo California FGC tards with no actual game development or life skills that have a huge network of influencers shilling the game for free because they're all friends IRL
>>540721046games good nigga cry
>>540697375yeah man thats what Vi dash do bro just hit that shit badda bing badda boom
>>540720609the fact this guy speaks fluent japanese is baffling
I don't play League but I kinda want Kayn in 2XKO>>540720989>memesnigga do you mean slang
>>540717806Yeah idk. I feel like people are forgetting this game is free live-service and applying the same standards they do to 80 dollar games with 30 dollar season passes to it, and complaining from that perspective.Sometimes the fgc does just get together and hate on something that's sick as hell gameplay wise, because of relatively superfluous, out of game stuff. Even though it genuinely innovated the entire genre by itself bbtag got nothing but shit for years. But it did do way WAY worse than this game and deserved a lot of what it got.
>>540725196bbtag was fucking horrendous shovelware
>>540718007chris g has been doing nothing but calling the game shit
>>540717806>if you're not a parasocial nigger who laps up whatever dogshit he's served because combofuck's name is on it you just don't like fighting gamesLMAOOOOOOO bold marketing tactic there
>>540726554Yeah yeah i know anonNevermind we’re getting four different bbtaglikes in the span of a year
>>540726998What's your preferred fighting game, just curious
>>540728507none of the games are bbtaglikes
>>540729796Im inputting my sandwich overhead and active tagging away from your wack ass dp kid sit down
I'm usually all about waifus and would rather Kindred or Taliyah but do any of you play League. Would Kayn be a good pick for Tuko?
>>540731904Kayn could be sick. He's got a scythe and multiple forms, could be interesting.
>>540729442strive, granblue and soul calibur 6i don't like tag fighters and despise marvel
>>540732585nta but who do you play in Rising? t. galleon main
>>540732671vira
>>540732776i knew it. this game really needs a character with an install. ekko doesn't count. i mean a match-lasting install
>>540731904Kayne is a homofag. If we gobwith a kindred u go Aatrox.
I'm watching sum combo vids and why is the light attack button almost never used?when you use that shit?
>>540733346Abare if you're feeling spicy or desperate. There's different damage values depending on which button you begin your combo with. Medium is often used as a nice middle ground and poking/starter tool
>>540733194I don't know what you said but fuck Aatrox's basic ass. I'd much rather take Kayn as our Darkin rep, or even the dog
>>540733346L and M starters scale combos a lot. You do more damage if you skip them entirely and start with H but it's obviously harder to find the right opportunity cause H moves are slower. M is a decent compromise
jab in this game fucking sucks. 7f startup for a L with no range are you fucking serious? There are games where that's the startup of a fucking heavy
>>540733730A scythe is not even a wepon its a farming tool. Aatrox wields a real wepon. Kayne is just a lttle bitch boy.
>>540734160There's a bunch of 6f ones, I know ahri, yas, ekko have one
>>540734420If I got murdered by a twink using a farming tool in a proper duel I wouldn't even be mad. Good job
>>540732585>Dogshit>Dogshit>Soul calibur 6 with 10 playersYea nice man. Who do you main in soul calibur
>>540736429geraldo and hilde
>>540736894I'd body you, pussy.
>>540717806Genuinely surprised this wasn't a reddit post when I googled it.
>>540717806no, I like fighting games and I shit on it because it's just a bad game not made by serious game devs but fans who have no actual clue how to make a good game>BUT I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN WITH COMBOSyou're a FGC autist, of course we like combos, this doesn't make a good game, 2XKO failed the assignment, casuals might stay for a bit but not for long and this game just straight up fails as a f2p game, it's also severely underdeveloped in all aspects that isn't combos, again made by fans who just want to focus on the things they like, not the whole product which makes it suffer, the Lobbys are shit, the artstyle is boring, animations are meh at best, it has zero actual features, combo trials aren't until oct 7th and I doubt they're gonna be any decent.2XKO is a game that shouldn't have taken over half a decade to make, it shouldn't have only 10 characters at launch, but it does because it's a badly made and horribly managed game that Riot is just trying to force out of the door before competent competition comes out.
>>540717806>>540738479also forgot>You guys don't like passion projects.passion means jack shit if you can't make it good, and Riot sure aren't gonna care when it underperforms after the Cannon brothers wasted a decade of their money.
Stupid bullshit aside, I think the game suffers most from its inaccessibility for casual players. I think the subgenre that is tag fightan can be made noob-friendly, but I don't know how that's achievable. I can't say. The attempt is already an uphill battle, and having a bunch of FGC guys design the game while including some of the nastiest shit tagslop has to offer just isn't compatible with 'beginner friendly' fightan.
>>540739353>I think the subgenre that is tag fightan can be made noob-friendly, but I don't know how that's achievable.2XKO is probably the best attempt so far but the issue is that tagfighters just naturally leads to a lot of degenerate shit, what would suck in more casuals would be more robust nonranked modes, SF6 showed the way, solid singleplayer with some silly side stuff, lots of people just got it to mess with the character creator or make dumb builds, but stuff like Extreme fights is a fun easy way to mess around with friends without it being so tryhard, just offering a lobby with ranked is not gonna keep a lot of people on.
HMMMMMMMMM#Nooticing
>>540740885is illaoi really that solid?i know she's good with super2, but that's all i find appealing about her
>>540740945>easy to play>good normals>huge damage>good assists>super 2 shenanigansShe's not as busted as Yasuo/Ekko but she's scarily good
>>540740945>Turns any throw anywhere off of any character regardless of throw type into a high damage combo>Has a dedicated ignore projectiles special in an Ekko dominated meta>Strongest corner pressure in the game atm>The tentacle super on top of all thatYeah
>>540740701>singleplayerYeah I think a lot of modern fighting games overlook just how popular these modes are with casuals. I used to think nobody played them too, but they DO get casuals invested. Fresh fighting game players are intimidated by ranked or even casual lobbies and the onboarding needs to be more than what's currently offered.>>540741271I forgot about that throw shit. Bitch might as well be a quasi-grappler with how often Illaois go for it
>>540740885>B-BUT JINX IS D-DA BEST IN DA GAME!?
>Capcom is straight up trying to make you pay to watch their horrid ad ridden majors (30 fucking dollars btw) nowWell expect more refugees soon I guess
>>540742118Reminder they viewbot
>>540742118you complain but thats unironically the best and simplest way to keep the esport scene alive, it's been a thing in Japan for ages and SF6 is thriving there.Meanwhile do not expect Riot to give 2xko any money for its esport scene
>>540743445>Meanwhile do not expect Riot to give 2xko any money for its esport sceneThey've literally started handing out thousands on thousands to random online tourneys with like 2.5k extra bonus for duos before the game even released
>>540743445>he thinks riot is brokeWhat a weird world we're living in
>>540740701>what would suck in more casuals would be more robust nonranked modesYeah, Valorant's not even close to the greatest about it but my friends that are new to the genre love playing the gungame mode that sometimes just throws infinite rocket launchers at you before we start unrated or whenever we're waiting on someone. One of SF6's rarely mentioned failings, I think, is that avatar battles requires you to grind SP to really play and extreme battles are kind of shoved into a corner rather than easily queued for. It makes you wonder even more what the fuck they've been doing during development. 9 characters, that they already can't even balance well, and no for fun modes in their game that NEEDS to rope in casuals and get them buying skins to survive. Fighting game devs really might just be incompetent.
>>540743557>They've literally started handing out thousands on thousands to random online tourneysok, don't expect this to last because 2xko isnt gonna give them the returns they want>>540743870Riots esport side has consistently done worse and worse
>>540741512People jerking off single player modes need to know their mythical casual friendly tools literally only bait sales charts and not player retention, I garuntee you most casuals who got into sf for the single player immediately dropped it after beating that mode
>>540744514> I garuntee you most casuals who got into sf for the single player immediately dropped it after beating that modeThis is why I wanna see the DLC/battle pass numbers. Someone is buying this avatar shit. There's no other reason why Capcom is pumping this shit out. It HAS to be making money, which means people have to be playing these single player modes or playing with their avatars in avatar battles
>>540744216>Yeah, Valorant's not even close to the greatest about it but my friends that are new to the genre love playing the gungame mode that sometimes just throws infinite rocket launchers at you before we start unrated or whenever we're waiting on someone.yeah modes like that are just lowstake enough to just be fun to fuck around in for an afternoon, just grinding rank will wear you out fast and it being f2p means theres no sunkcost in it.>It makes you wonder even more what the fuck they've been doing during development.like I said before, they're not game devs, they're fans making a fighting games with just stuff they like, which means shit like tag mechanics, parry and combos, but doesn't think of stuff they dont like which is basically everything else that actual game devs would think about, even titles like CoTW got some singleplayer content, even multiversus had it even if it was horrible. Also probably just coasted on cashing out Riot money for doing little to nothing.>Fighting game devs really might just be incompetent.no 2xko's devs are incompetent and not actual game devs.
How would you even make an ARAM-like mode for this game
>>540745049A gamemode that triples the movement of every character
>>540744514>most casualsSure, but you just said yourself that some of them stuck around because of it. Casuals stick around, invite their friends to play, and even eventually become high level players. That's how games become popular. I don't think they should make a full on campaign for their F2P game, or even SP options really, but it's a clear sign of incompetence to have both so few characters and no extra modes.
>october 7Need the EA rn so i can grind whatever garbage they put.
>wake up>we're doomposting againi think 2xko is fun
>>540749726>playing ranked right now>all the shit i unlocked is gonna be reset>still only 9 characters with the 10th likely to be a disappointmentthe pricing is still ridiculous. 7500 coins for a fucking chroma is stupid
>>540749891every time im tempted to say "they need to make progression faster" i remember it's a fully f2p game but seriously i've played nearly 800 matches and if i'd spent it all on chromas i still wouldnt have them all for my mains
>>540750145Yeah I get that it's F2P and they need to make money somehow but desu that should mean they release skins at an accelerated rate, or pump out champs. The current state of the game is kind of dumb for monetization.
>>540745049I don't know but it's not my job to spit one out on the fly. It's the guys that have been developing this game for like a decade that should have been thinking about it.
>>540750319at least battle passes will probably have a bunch on them
how do I gid gud with Illaoi?
>>540751107play her as your second char and use 2x assist
>>540751641Double down also works because her regular combo enders have such good knockdowns she can set up a tentacle install and still get a slow as fuck damage super from a second character in to hit
>>540751896yeah, but she can set up tentacles off anything. imo the complete and total screen control of 2 tentacle slaps is just the best thing for her but ymmv
>>540751107Pair her with Blitz to easily TOD someone in the corner
>>540751641Whats so good about her double assist? Spawning two tentacles or the pull in the tentacle do when you activate it?
>>540752935the tentacle slam is just a gigantic, fast, disjointed, and non-reactable hitbox that lets you control the screen.
>>540751896>Illaoi BnB into corner>S2 super>S1 Blitz super>get whipped to fuck by tentacles over and over again, you're fucked if you don't have burst>easy command grab when you finally get a chance to recover>potential ToDThe set-up is easy as fuck to do and can easily kill most of the cast.
2XKO ended up being the GBVSR of tag fighters in a good way.
>>540753416Jinx beam super actually lets you combo off of the tentacles too, you can even do the beam super twice if you don't have zap bar to go into the rest of the combo
>blitz lvl 3 loses to vi lvl 1I REALLY LIKE RIOT'S FAVORITE PRINCESS
remember: if you're minus and going to die anyway, you might as well press the button
>>540756886couldn't he have just parried? assuming he didn't press anything of course
>>540757054he pressed
>know I could win more with Jinx/Darius>keep forcing myself to learn Ahri/Darius insteadThis bitch feels so inconsistent man. Tried learning Ekko but I can't get the timing on his combos right. He's too execution-heavy while at the same time feeling baby mode
>>540758294it's best to just stick with the chars you actually like my friendahri is absolutely going to get buffed nonstop because riot plays favorites, she's future-proof as fuck in that regard
who is complaining about autocombos in the fucking grandmaster lobby bro...
>>540744514Youre right and don't even humor anyone arguing the opposite theyre brainless slugs
>>540760718he's gotta be trolling
>>540761346i think having ENTICING single player content is an okay idea to get people's foot in the door because there surely has to be a percentage of people who do stick around after playing a bit single player
Would you guys kill me for saying I want Morgana in the game>tether>shield>DoT pool on the groundI don't know what her new kit is, I'm going off of 12 year old memories of playing her
>>540762540Morgana is hot but doesn't really do any cool fighting game gimmicks on top of a good chunk of her tools existing in more interesting charactersThey could make her a Morrigan function with her wings for movement and fireball spam
i want sennathe gameplay is already there too, they just have to copy unika
The only sensible choice is Fiddlesticks
>>540762734Yeah there's probably better champions with a similar kit to pick from, I'm just so far removed from League at this point that I dunno who does what anymore>>540763158>>540763549Both would be fantastic
>>540763832>Throws crows>Drain could either be a projectile or a command grab>Big Harvest move>Jumpscare superWe NEED at least one monster Riot, please
my hubby's hubby is the top priority unfortunatelykate being confirmed means we're definitely going to have him purely so they can have cute voice lines togetheryear one? maybe not, but year 2? definitely
If we're not popping by October 8th someone make a cord
>>540764564nobody who isn't actively following the game even knows it's out because riot is intentionally killing it by not advertising lol
>>540765159>killing it by not advertising lolIt's in an invite only beta retard
>>540765473famously, video games never receive ad campaigns before their release
man why the fuck every time i pick the most mobile character in a fighting game expecting to go FAST and CURAHZEE it always plays extremely defensive and neutral oriented? Happened with gio in strive too
I forget everything I trained in practice as soon as real match. I get 6 lose streak by real people
>>540765832being able to go fast as fuck means being able to zip around and whiff punishyasuo doesn't HAVE to be played like a backdash chimp, he's just as good at running forward and tardmashing unreactable pressure forever
>get to grandmaster doing the same garbage combos over and overwhat now
>>540766209yeah i know, i accidentally fell into this playstyle and now i'm used and quite good at it. Guess this is who i am now
>>540764045>OTG drain or assist drain, rapidly healing Fidds while you're comboing someoneThis would be so fucking toxic but fuck it I'm in
I'm bored as hell are we making a lobby or what
>>540763158>Senna>Like UnikaI get that they're both bodacious chicks with massive guns but I don't think they would play similarly She's one of the only support characters I enjoyed playing
Someone tell me what this faggot said I'm not giving him views
>>540766048I'll usually practice trying to lab the combos by setting the bot to cpu, it helps for simulating actual movement and matches
>>540766959Nothing. I got to GM a couple days ago, ranks are inflated I feel the only good players are in challenger. Slow thread, no lobbies.I'm just doing dailies now I'm gonna go back to deadlock
>>540774316>>540768437ill open a lobby in like 20 mins if anyone wants to play
>>540765832Vi plays like a chimp on crack though?
>>540773503here you go, mean bro
Should I play Vi/Illaoi or Illaoi/Blitz both double down
This game looks fun and I want to play something other than SF6, unfortunately I made the awful decision of playing LoL in my college years so now I won't play it until they put in some of the characters I used to play (Those motherfuckers are never getting in).
>game is dead alreadyLMAO
g4tvp56sg4tvp56sg4tvp56slobby is now OPEN. if nobody joins, i'll close after about twenty minutes
>>540778880(also i do have to brb but i'll be back shortly)
>>540779025(ok back)
>>540778880we've got two people now! you, reading this message! come be the third!
>I can't even fucking anti air people without them going through me>Every fucking normal takes two business days to come out>Literally no counterplay to Yasuo stalling the whole game with a single button special>This is the cuhraaayze fighting game for skilled player by mahvel fans apparently
>hold back to block on wakeup in corner>get backroll>get thrownThey didn't think this throughalso retreating guard losing to lows is retarded.
i closed the lobby on accident holy shit lolk5gks1krk5gks1krk5gks1krSORRY
>>540782420can you grab people mid roll
>>540783234i opened the menu to change the lobby settings but the cursor defaults to "return to main menu" which closes the lobby instantly without even prompting whether or not you're sure about it...i feel so fucking stupid lol. sorry guys, i'll leave this lobby open for a while in case you wanna play some. very embarrassing
Should I play Vi/Illaoi - 2X Assist or Illaoi/Blitz - Double Down? Is Illaoi/Braum any good?
>>540783245yes
i'm looking through the lol skins to get an idea of what's to come and besides the arcane skins EVERYTHING fucking sucks. Goddamn that game has the worst artstyle of all time. Some kind of 2008 deviantart amateurish, part weeb, part chink, part blizzard, garbage without an ounce of creativity. You can tell the most derivative, uninspired, untalented minds worked at it. Bleh. This game is such an improvement
>>540783393i closed this one too. sorry again guys, can't believe that happened at such a dumb time, too
>play DD jinx/vi>refuse to use supers to handicap myself>win some games and close to winning othersthese bozos don't know I'm going easy on them
there really needs to be a visual difference between yasuo's alpha blade and yasuo's stance->dash up
yasuo can hit you with three of his own level 1s in one combo :)
>>540790826i want to learn that combo,but i haven't seen a consistent way to get the initial super2 to hit properlythe 'stance.H stance.dash 6S1S1 ...' route still needs some timing to it
>>540776789You typed this as I left the thread and booted up steam.
>>540791547fwiw it was me and one other dude and then when a third joined i accidentally closed the lobby and nobody came backmaybe next time orz
https://x.com/i/status/1972263742898647413Holy shitFuck this, I'm switching to Ahri for this sole reason
Bursting leads to a 50/50 by the way that needs to get changed.
>>540791808getting a meaty because you fucking popped furry is absolutely bad yeah
>>540791625that's pretty sick
>>540720609Reminder he didn't want 2XKO to be a game with long combos and wrote it in every dev blog lmfao. Good job Shaun.
Why is Darius' theme so good
why is my ping to the server so high from california
>>540799240for me it's ahri's themeonly song in the ost i've heard that can get me nodding
>>540799917I just can't vibe with her's at all. It's too poppy, but I think I'm in the minority.
>>540795980Trust the plan the game will become so much better in a week bro
>>540799240my husband is the coolest so obviously he'd have a theme to match
I don't even know which song belongs to whom
>>540800764the song that plays at the start of the round is the stage's theme, then for the next round it plays the theme of the champ that got the last KO
Vultures straight up making up outfits and colors now
REGGAE-TON
yeah im just not gonna rematch jugg or sidekick players anymore.
>>540802115why not? are they beating you?
>>540802495yeah.
After playing this game for a while I can safely say this shit is a stinker that'll die just like LoR.Buttons have little to no identity every single press of a button that lands can always be converted into a half an hour combo for 40-50% dmg minimum. the game is all about constant coin tossing for 50% health payouts.Tag assists needs to be a more precious resource than just something you can shit out so often and combo conversion capabilities of a lot of buttons should be nerfed.
>>540803563That singular 4.8k guy is leffen btw
im still thinking about that mouthbreathing retard from the other day that tried to convince me that frame data doesn't matter in this game. i think that's the most successfully i've ever been trolled in my life. actually kill yourself irl if you're reading this post
>>540804060How many games?I know Void is only there because he grinded 100s of games kek, he had like 600+ in challenger while a bunch of others only had 200+
>>540795980The one sane man in their office...
is this a soft launch of the game or is the beta going to end at some point? any date?
>>540809260october 7th is the open launch for pc. console still unknown
Random code I never used, might as well since the open beta is coming out anyways
>>540811052https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/beta/invite#code=be748609-b7e9-4147-92c4-86f25406e59dwoops
DAMN there's just something about parrying a dariusfag trying to hit his shitty hook on you, or a Yasfag spamming his shitty hasagiThat shit feels good
this game is going to completely live or die based on the goodwill generated or not generated by its first patch. if they don't DRASTICALLY adjust yasuo and ekko, that's it.
>>540811967is yasuo OP? i haven't been paying attention to the talk online about this game at all. I've been playing as him and braum
>>540812664he's pretty widely agreed to be the best character in the game with ekko in 2nddont let that bring you down though keep on dabbing on people
>>540812764shieet i didn't even know. he was the first character is picked. i dont even play lol
>>540812983Meta only matters when you play in tournaments, just play whoever if you like em
>>540717806I'd tell you to be less obvious next time but you got a lot of (You)s so bait succesful ig
Oh something I think can help other shitter ahri players like me is to learn her super into super combos, they're pretty easy and they add a lot of damage even to her basic combos, you don't need any of the fancy charge jh stuff
>>540811967>this game>is going to completely liveLmao, the only way for this rancid dogshit to live is if they scrap everything and come back in 5 years with an actual fighting game and not this horrid tagslop.
I'm a stick purist but I think I might give in to pad. You guys win.
>>540818083what a shit edit
I refuse to learn those 20 seconds long Vi combos I keep getting hit with.
>do one (1) basic blitzcrank relaunch combo on someone in lolemerald>get called a "lab player" If the full release gets a sizeable playerbase the scrubquotes are going to go crazy
>>540821181what's the routing? I can do the charge jH stuff but the spacing on the rejump after it feels so inconsistent.
>>540511080i play braum and my friend plays blitz. i think it’s mathematically the worst possible way to play the game.
>>540821181>>540835025well I decided to lab for myself for a bit and came up with this. definitely doesnt feel optimal but the damage isn't that terrible for a light starter and it feels a lot more consistent than the rejump combo. It's especially nice with the team launcher.
>teemo trailer 20 minutes ago>not a single post about itthis game really died before it could even release huh
>Teemo trailer launches>It's posted on /sfg/ >*crickets* in official generalJesus Christhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8-Uw_sypMs
>>540848461I get they leaned into the memes with the trailer, but it's so cringe. You either smile because it's so honestly forward or it's an awful trailer to watch.Very in keeping with fucking Teemo. I just hope these aren't the majority of his voice lines
>>540848461this game aint big enough to have its own general, just move to /fgg/
>>540849083no one wants to post in your namefag cesspit, fggot, bo back to your containment zone and stay there
>>540849083/fgg/ is deader than here
>>540848461Woah he's sickThe flight mode is kinoDid they explain how the fire shit works
>>540848461>he still goes invisible when sitting still for 2 secondsneatsurely that can't be good right
>>540848461>>540848397Damn, that's my first time reading /sfg/.That explains a lottt of what gets posted here I see now.Really taking me back to my dota days
>>540848461WTF was that trailer
>>540851438Reddit appealThey're amassing upvotes over thereWe just dont see the vision
>>540850805idk what you could possibly do with itit would be funny if the camera stopped tracking you because then you could probably actually trick your opponent combined with an assist
please Riot...just add Riven...
>>540672510>>540672061I'm 99% sure the only reason they put chip in the game was to make the epic evo parry references
>>540852103there's datamined voicelines from darius that sound like they're directed toward rivenhttps://youtu.be/T1lPVX7bftQ?si=lBG6mpoFtFvIs651&t=170
>>540852451>Warwick and Caitlyndo we really need more Arcane champions? there are more places...
>>540848461This is fucking embarrassing, this passsed several people, it passed the marketing and they all said "yeah this is fine"
>>540852792it's taking off on twitter and reddit mannormies legit gargle memeslop up
>>540852941>Brian_Fdudes a cocksucker for riot because he really wants tournament and riot viewer money, of course he's say this safeass chatgpt grade shit, might as well be a riot press message
>>540852775i think when the next arcane season is coming out we'll get more noxus champions (like riven)cringe as fuck that there's so many piltover and zaun champs though
>>540852775>>540854120you have to understand that no one gives a flying fuck about the lore, Arcane is the only thing thats popular about League so they're gonna push in as many Arcane characters as possible with some characters thats popular in game or has high pick rates.and I guess Braum too.
>>540854403Some bara lover dev REALLY wanted Illaoi and Braum.
>back dash spam >normals that fire darts like chris' standing pistol and air pistol>shroom grenades>"FIRE IN THE HOLE" oh yeahits all coming up teemoonly thing missing is the prone position and the satellite laser they should've added the satellite laser
>>540848461Ironically this is the most casual zoomer friendly thing I've seen any fighting game ever do with their trailers, most of them are stuffy as fuck and literally only make sense if you know the game and character.I find it really funny they made a point of showing how cancer it would be for Darius to get in, he really doesn't get to escape the ranged top curse kek
>>540851927the only way I see it working is if you could somehow call an assist teemo in and his invisclock starts ticking while he's on the stage? and then you can swap to him to finish it as your point does some command grab animation or somethingThen you can maybe get a fucked up mix out of freestyle or somesuch
>>540848461Oh my science...Was that a motherhecking EVO MOMENT #37 reference on my Teemo trailer?!I literally started clapping when it happened
>>540851927Jinx fireworks super and force the camera shift into turn invisible, I see the vision
wtf they changed his hat browhy'd the change his hat
>>540857320looks better if you are seeing him from the side.
>>540856407That's a pretty good point desuIt is the kind of thing you can send to a 12 year old and he'll get itjust aimed at a different audience>>540857392makes sense ig..
>>540848461Looks great>>540856407Yeah, you're right. I played LoL a lot and every reference makes perfect sense to me
>>540848461I thought it was cute
Teemo does go invis during a combo reset btwIn like half a second, over the duration of a single blitz restand, he sits in the grass, gets invis.Then he jumps over illaoi to cross up, then jumps back again, then does a cross up overhead, all entirely invisibleKinda sick stuff guy has the fabled unseeable mix
I am going to play Jinx Teemo Have fun against me
>>540859883I have a feeling they're never going to nerf double down jinx super if they're adding this kind of stuff
>>540862240Anon how is he turning invis in that duration and doing the mix
>>540862240He probably needs the grass already grown for the fast invis and maybe even for the longer duration invis tooIf you retreating guard the jinx super it should be pretty hard to get mixed
>>540861414I'm running it too we'll be mirror matchingI feel like it'll be a bit troll thoughTeam instant loss if you get cornered but it will be fun
>>540861414I'll play Ahri Teemo.
>>540856407>I find it really funny they made a point of showing how cancer it would be for Darius to get in, he really doesn't get to escape the ranged top curse kekthey are straight up trying to get me to kill myselfi will be playing darius/2x assist teemo tho
>>540867074when they showed darius getting backdashed on in the first 5 seconds i thought of you bro
>>540848461From the name of the mechanics to the UI to the trailer, this game has a severe aesthetics problem. They have the anti-soul
>>540868385it makes me sad that they love using him as the character that gets btfo'd in every single trailer but o wellhopefully having him on my team will be enough to mitigate having to fight him
>>540869206>Generic bad guy personality>Gay and braindead gameplay where he gets to win for being near youHe deserves it and you wanting his cock in your ass doesn't change it
mushroom time
>>540869337stop trying to ragebait me oomfie it's not gonna work
>>540857129
he's literally OUR HERO
>when teemo sets his grass on fire it makes his float move send him into the air like botw link ok that is kinda funny
https://youtu.be/d8G8dZ8agU0?si=Nh4FWOocmLt7iW-BLeffen apparently playtested teemo>darts are his light attacks and shoot up to 3>mushrooms work like jinx traps where you can hit them>the bush teleport might be invincible>bush fire can be exploded and work with his parachute>has the mushroom bounce from lol>has a badge system that upgrades his moves>needs the bush to turn invisible
I still don't know how to feel about 5 champions a year, it would be good if they keep at it for 2-3 years but the first year will feel so stale.
>>540872746we'll get more variety in what gets played when riot guts ekko and yasuo ha ha ha ha
>>540873256The comboboar devs would never nerf the comboboar champions, they probably think that its ok for them to be able to confirm from anything because their combos are long.
Kennen jumpscareFirst champion to appear as a background model, confirmed?
>>540871827Fuck off, Trundle is better
>>540872746Imo as long as the champs are varied enough and patches come out at a clip, it'll be fineI think the game feels so stale right now because most of the top characters are pretty similar.Ekko, Yas and Vi all want to just run at you and mix youJinx is the only exception but you never really zone with her. You just throw one monkey and shoot one rocket and then tag to your mix character who will then proceed to run at you and mix youWith Teemo now you can actually have a Jinx team that only wants to play keep away.And maybe his wider trap variety makes someshit like Yasuo Teemo where he wants to turtle behind a windwall idk
>>540872746We need to wait a full year and 2 months to reach Jive's horrible roster everyone shat on
>>540872330>Leffen apparently playtested teemoWow the tournaments for the first year are going to be so hype with people who know the ins and outs of characters a year before they were even out and talked to the devs about their intents for the future of these characters get to play against people who don't have that privilege
>>540874767You had to pay 60 upfront smackers for jive tbf
>>540875209Yeah, but Jive was 1v1 so this will still be essentially half of that after the number even reaches that for actual character variety
this games getting harder to defend dude
>>540876092>3 days of maintenanceI mean, sad but not the end of the world
>>540875324>actual character varietyokay but consider that when you play a fighting game you're going to be fighting the same 6 or so characters online no matter how big the roster is.
>>540875324Meh I dont care for that idea that every character is worth half of what they would be in a 1v1.1v1s might have less duplicates showing up over the course of a day but you also will always see less characters in total over that same day anyways.When you go into a Cammy into a Juri into a Mai into a Cammy shit feels way worse imo than something like a bunch of Yasuo teams but an Ekko, Darius, Blitz and Jinx sprinkled in there, at least their options are sorta different each time. Each character does make the whole team perform slightly differently.Part of the reason I think so anyways is because when there's ONE insanely broken team the game is always way way worse than when it's just a top tier that's in every team.Back in bbtag when Ruby/Gordeau was broken and everywhere that was sooo fucking lame and so much worse than like MvC where there's vergil in every game but at least everyone else is different
>>540875324With that RETARDED logic then MvC3 who launched with 26 characters is actually only worth as much as a 1v1 game with fucking 8 characters.Because each character is only worth 1/3rd of a REAL characters variety
remove fury.
i think what really bothers me about the backdash spam in this game is that the characters who are the best at it have absolutely no reason to be doing it. yasuo and ekko are easily some of the chimpiest shit in the game, they can win plenty easily by just running at you and running their uninteractable, unreactable mix by clipping you with a max range 5m and two touching you. but instead these fags decide "no the round needs to last 130 seconds" and backdashlike what are we doing
>>540872330>badge powerup systemso what he's like, Susan'oo?I did see his mushroom got stronger when he hit itthat is kind of insanely complicated for fucking teemo
>>540874953knowledge like that is an advantage for like a week into the game man
>>540879309>so what he's like, Susan'oo?Susan has a really lackluster and basic gay ass kit and he unlocks his moves, how the fuck did you even reach this conclusion after watching the trailer
>>540876092I don't play anymore because account progression will be wiped so I don't really mind.
they could use the 2XKO models and assets to make a smash bros clone, not sure why they haven't done it.
What are the chances they're going to release major balance changes or system changes on oct 7
>>540879692Susan also powers up his moves, getting extra hitboxes and hits and stuff which it seems like Teemo doesLook bro there's not many comparisons I can draw here wtf is your example
>>540880046Balance changes 100%They did a patch a week ago already even if it was relatively small
>>540881227But a major one or a minor
>>540881319we have reduced the damage on yasuo's 5l by 2we have reduced the total duration of ekko's timewinder by 3 frames. to make up for this it now charges faster and does 100 more damage
im not sure if the level 3 would've caught me had i not done this, but damn did my brain ever feel big
>>540848461This thing can't be shot? Oh nah it's over.Teemo hate will ruin this game the fun is over.
>>540882552yeah im honestly kind of dooming about this character. i can already barely interact with jinx, yasuo, and ekko zoning me, and now there's giant mushrooms on the screen that i LITERALLY can't do anything about
>>540852941>>540852792What do you mean trailer..? You mean the character right. Why does he have all this shit, the game is on the verge of death and they announce a keepout character? They've gotta be mentally ill at the offices
>>540856407>casual zoomer friendly>2xkoYea stopped reading there. How do the profoundly mentally ill get access to keyboard I'll never understand.
>>540883139>it's not casual friendl-ACKhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mEVRATXcH0
>he has a special that makes him go invisible>crossed up illaoi after a restand>best keepout in the gameI cannot understand how anyone is hype for this. This will kill off the remaining players we have left.
>>540884739but hes le funny...either way, sure he looks like pure unfiltered cancer from the trailer, but the trailers make every character look great. we'll have to wait and see how fucked up he actually is but he's definitely gonna be hitler for the casuals
>>540882753>>540882975>>540884739>shit players cant deal with my epic zoning hamster>get assmad and ragequit to shitpost in 4chanthe entire reason I play fighting games lets go
>>540882975Nigga the roster is 7 rushdown characters, blitz and JinxThis game needs at least 4 more Zoners
>>540886392The screen is tiny and everyone is fast as fuck or has full-screen buttons stop pretending like this is a normal fighting game. The closest thing we have to a "zoner" is Jinx, who does just as much damage as the rest of the cast. You guys are retarded
>>540886234that isn't very niceim gonna be playing darius/teemo anyway>>540886392? ekko and yasuo are backdash spam zoners. vi too arguably
>>540886560>The screen is tinyme when i haven't played a fighting game in 15 years and dont know what im talking about
>>540848461>vi slam dunking enemies into shroomsi look forward to his assists.
>>540886730You don't play.
Until they add HIDDEN MISSILES and astral vision you guys dont even know what zoning is This game has way too many moves that just destroy all projectiles anywaysOne single super that you can't interact with is babby mode shit just use your fullscreen Darius super or Vi punch or invul ekko roll
>>540887028you can create more space between two characters in 2xko than you can in any other modern fighting game. this is simply an objective fact.
>>540886560Jinx doesn't play like a true zoner right now because of the tag game aspect.Her teammate is always someone like Ekko or Vi so you only ever shoot a single projectile and then just tag her out so your rushdown character can run in for free and go crazy.Once people can have a team like Teemo Jinx that's when she'll actually play like a real zoner
>>540889006Yea you just don't know what you're talking about. You could float and run away well in dbfz you can't do the same here. It's ok though we all start somewhere we're all new at one point. Enjoy your time in the fgc
>>540889272>because of the tag game aspect.No, because her zoning tools legitimately suck right now
>>540889474this entire fucking game is about backdashing lol. that aside calling dbfz modern is sus considering the game's what, 8 fucking years old?
I have a question aimed specifically at people who think combo length should be shorter, so if you're one of the ''THIS IS LE TAG WE NEED 60 MINUTE COMBOS INTO 64 WAY MIXUP INTO LOOPING OKI'', you can just ignore it.What is the perfect combo length for you? Input wise and time wise.I'm a Granblue player and to me Granblue comes the closest to perfection, your average bnb is like 3 seconds long, resource dumps can increase this to 7 or 8 or so and absolute perfect scenarios can take you to 15+evem if granblue is too different from a tag game, strive is kinda the same thing, you don't really have overly long combos most of the time
DNF Duel 2
>>540869337Darius isn't really a ''bad guy''Even before they went ham in Noxus being le morally gray
>>540890254I think Strive's combo length is perfect, although its artificially shortened due to the wallbreak mechanic. Too bad they cancelled GG5 and Tokon has wall breaks too, I really hate the wall break mechanics but I like Arcsys games.
>>540890254i don't mind long combos as long as they're harder to access than "lolxd my ekko 2x assist clipped you at full screen ggs dude"basically, the harder the starter is to hit with, the better the combo should be. imo
>>540871827>swing axe>axe breaks>turns into a scythe
>>540890731>Darius isn't really a ''bad guy''PERSONALITY nigga he acts like one not saying he's completely evil
I hope they give Ahri a few buffs for launch...
>>540890254Look bro I get you're mad its not like other game but it's stupid to act like when you have assists you should still only be able to combo like you don't have them.You're able to call an attack with 0 startup and 0 recovery for your point character whenever you want, of course you're going to get combo extensions and illegal starters from itIn the world where assists just end the combo or can't be picked up from what's even the point of having them in the game? There's no power fantasy and they would just feel like unsatisfying filler
>>540891443read the very first sentence of the post
>>540891551The question is directed at you, not at your post.What would be the POINT of assists or tagging if they just ended the combo entirely? Just to preserve some "ideal 3 second combo length"?
>All data gets reset on October 4thI've got no motivation to play unless we have lobbies ngl
Holy shit who told granblue players they can have an opinion.They literally have the slowest anime game of all time, this is not hyperbole. Why do you think you can speak on a tag game with mix? You don't even know what mix is you have strike throw and whatever the fuck nonsense seox does. Sit the fuck down in your corner.
my husband is kind and sweet and a good person
>>540892065same here, all will to just play the game to learn has burnt out, I need my account progression dopamine to carry me until evo.
>>540892241this but unironically.
>>540891076What do you think she needs, she's pretty good right now
>>540892065>going to have to grind to unlock Blitz againFuck me man
>>540848461this is the most leddit shit ive ever seenand i mean it, if you open up 2xko's 'ddit, the first post you see is soi golems repeating the same joke that was already unfunny 10 years agohttps://old.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1nto3tv/thoughts_on_satan_being_added_to_the_game/>To be fair to OP, there's 15 years of conditioned hatred for playing against Teemo in league of legends>Personally? The trailer made me wish they implement bans for ranked.>Of course there won't be any bans. What's your point? That the trailer shouldn't make me wish this champion could be banned? Well, tough luck.>Bunch of people thinking that me saying I don't want to play against this thing, which is the reaction the devs are clearly going for in the video itself, is wrongthink because I used a word they don't like which is "ban" together with a concept they don't understand which is "wishful thinking".it's official this game is tailormade for 'dditorsTeemo... is LE SATAN!
>>540892720this nigga opens reddit
>>540892578Just enough range and speed on 6S2 so you can combo from max range M > H. Maybe make 2S1 faster at the moment it feels like quite an useless move, even with throwing an assist you are sitting like a deer in headlights and half the cast will fuck you up for even trying to do it, and worst thing is that is not even that good of a move if you actually get it off.Ekko's projectile is much better and he can combo from almost anything. Playing Ahri feels like playing a nerfed version of Ekko.
>>540892209I remember when I downloaded grubble to try it because of the sexo shortstacks but man.I really did try to play it but holy fuck every normal in that game is so shitty and every character moves like a snail.I was always a gg, team and platform fighter player so I should've known I wouldn't like it but when you get into game and try to move your character it seriously feels like the game is bugged
I just wanna play tokon man
>>540893735I hope they add thanos so I can snap my fingers when I do my super with him and then I can turn to my opponent and tell them "I am le inevitable..." It's going to be so freaking hardcore and epic
>>540893928i hope they add thanos so we can get a new sfm model of him that isnt mcuified
>>540893735once they give tokon players training mode i wonder if that sentiment will change... game is going to be even grimier desu
jugger tournamenthttps://www.twitch.tv/diaphone_
>>540892720stop browsing reddit, simple as
>>540893735Tokon is a slower game than this. If you disagree you literally have not played it.
>>540896909Cringe.
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>>540897602>Combos will missExcept Yasuo's, certainly
>>540897993idk bro his hitboxes are pretty honest...
>>540898502Just like the other game>Super thin skill shots you HAVE to land! High execution!>Oh they're literally instant so you have to be legit retarded to miss tho teehee>All his other crap are just button presses that home in to your opponent
>>540897602>some 2+ year old teemo notesdude what
>>540897602>>540904786i cant be the only one thinking this spells disaster for this game
>>540904786It's no secret they invited pro players and youtubers to playtest.
>>540906507it's not (entirely) thathow the fuck can a character be worked on for over two years? i think it was skullgirls that took 6 months or 1 year to make a character?
>>540908145Didn't they rework the game a fuck ton of times? I remember Justin Wong talking about Ahri and how they changed her from one time he played to another and she was completely different. This was within a year iirc. They probably have a bunch of characters that they were working on for an older build and have to retool them.
>>540908145Eh a lot of fighting games say it's like 6 to 12 months for a single character realistically yeah
>>540908145I don't think they make one character at a time. They need more characters to work on the game mechanics and balance. I know someone said that most of the unannounced cast didn't have supers and were t-posing a lot in those playtest builds.
>>540908145it's not just teemocontent creators have said for each new reveal that they've tried older versions of these characters back during the alpha lab period
>>540897602this nigga writes like a kindergartner
>>540912046rooflemonger has the mental capacity of one, so it's fittingi have an irrational hatred for him and his stupid fucking voice
>>540912046>>540912291He IS a grapplerfag after all
>>540890254I think SF in general does it perfectly for me with most of it's characters though I'd like lvl 3s in 6 to at least cut short when there's little health left and no doubt about whether or not it'll kill. They usually strike a good balance where combos don't feel like they're disrupting the flow of the match. 6 is pretty similar to Granblue, IIRC, but I felt like GB was worse because it throws meter at you like crazy and there's no saving it for next round so you can see super cinematics and cashout combos way more often.I'm definitely not the target audience for this game.
>>540904786>>540905089>>540908145You morons do know that when they release 5 characters a year they aren't making a new character every 8 weeks each time right?They have like the first 2 years of characters already done in some harddrive somewhere and they're working on the third and fourth right now.Having Teemo mostly done 2 years ago is perfectly plausible
>>540908145Dawg have you heard of this game called league of legendsIt's crazy over there
>>540909405>6 months per character>5 characters a year>characters are worked on 30 months in advanceyeah the math checks out
>teemo heavies are him cutting wood>teemo launcher is him setting fire to the wood he cutvery cute riot well donenow add 4 more yordles
>Teemo is such a big dick chad he handicaps himself at the start of a matchIs Jax his only real match?
>>540917510this has to be an elaborate shitpost
>>540919643okay? elaborate it then
Will Juggernaut and Sidekick ever be viable?
Yuumi when
>>540921159Handshake tag is far too broken for them to ever be.Once you see a guy completely whiff grab and still be safe because he tagged out of his recovery frames you'll realize this too
>>540921468Glorified fuse.
>>540921963Yeah, but can a fuse give you a blowjob?
>see the broski video on teemo>"I like small teams"you don't say, broski....
>>540922237imma need you to elaborate
>>540922102More worried about my fuse being fun to play than being sexually gratifying.
>>540922237Who's the second shorty they'll add?
>>540922303he said he played a team of exclusively small characters in mvc3 and when he posted on /vg/ he was a massive lolifagso I think it's funny
>>540922484>when he posted on /vg/ he was a massive lolifagwtf reallydamn didn't know he was based like that
>>540922453gotta figure poppy or tristana right
Can someone fucking explain super assists work why the fuck can you sometimes not get them completely fucking randomly
>>540923139They cost 1 bar of meter on your dead characterThey always work for me idk is that your issue
>>540922453Kennen has a full model and a teleport animation on the bandle city stageIt's the most effort they've put into a background model yet and he's the only champion to appear as a background element so far so maybe him.Strictly on popularity, candidates could be Lulu, Tristana or Veigar. Heimer is also possible because of arcane shilling and he was somehow in LoR as a base roster character so Poppy, Gnar and Kled have the most gameplay potential imo but they did pretty good with how barebones Teemo is, so maybe that doesn't even factor in
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