cutest ghost edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>540474135
dota 2 is a better game than deadlock
deadlock is a better game than dota 2
Okay so we have>a ghost>a bunch of revenants>a zombie>two vampsWhat other undead creatures are we missing?
>>540540475deadlock 2 is better than dota 3
>>540540540A lich, a ghoul, a revenant. Can list more for you , Yoshi.
whens bunny hopping
Capacitor vyper optimizing0.25s internal cooldown20% proc chanceNeed 20 bullets per second to hit the capVyper Base attack speed is 14.3 bullets per second+40% fire rate brings her to 20 bullets per secondCapacitor already has 8% so she needs 32%Cheapest way to hit this is Kinetic dash(+30%) +rapid rounds(10%) for 2400 totalNote:Surge of power (22%,3200$) +rapid rounds(10%,800) gets you exactly to the cap which is synced if you aren't going for cdrTranscendent cooldown will lower the internal cooldown 0.175snew capacitor cap is roughly 28.5 bullets per second which is just under +100% attack speedCapacitor is 8% so you need <92%, Slowing bullets is 7%, 85% left, Cheapest would be burstfire(45%,3200$),Kinetic dash(30%,1600)Rapid rounds[unsure if you can buy this while already having Burstfire , alternative blood tribute(40%,3200$)instead of kd+rr]Summary with no cdr>rapid rounds(800)>Surge of power(3200)>capacitor (6400)3 slot,10.4k souls and attack speed is optimized for base cdr capacitorSummary with cdr>rapid rounds(800)>Kinetic dash(1600)>slow bullets (1600)>burstfire(3200)>capacitor(6400)>Transcendent cooldown(6400)6 slots, 20k total souls for an optimized capacitor. Don't buy anymore cdr or fire rate or it will throw off the syncRepost from last thread because dlg is trying to bury it with early bake
sexual relations with the doorman!!!
League of legends is a better game than both Dota 2 and Deadlock
>>540540665uhhhhh sis, riot went backrupt back in 2028...
>>540540665wasn't league initially created because one of the all stars modders had a sperg out about dota being too difficult?
>>540540540the mummy
Why does Deadlock have so many black people?
Why does Deadlock have so many butch dykes?
>>540541063
>>540541072haze isn't black.
>>540541072it has 2
black pharaoh hero when?
>>540541257HazeAbramsInfernusWraithCalicoIvyto namy a few
Mcniggis magic carpet is so cancer it's fun.
>>540541651Only 2 of those are black
>>540540364Update next Week
>dota 2 gets a new hero>deadgame gets nothinglife is indeed a circle
won a 5v6, feelsgoodmanwatch the match if you have time, it's worth it for the keks
>>540541792All of them are.
>>540542439ivy isn't black
>>540542332>wardendoesn't count
>>540542226we just got like five of them calm your fat souple titties
>>540540475100% agree
>>540542226there is no new dota hero
>>540542809i'm the law
>>540542901
>>540542985this is a line of code not a playable hero i can log on and pick right now
>>540542979>warden>mok>lashdoesn't count
>>540543137ill try to play ivy more
>>540541651abrams doesn't have any black features and is voiced by a samoan
>>540543356good add me on furaffinity
>>540540540A dead nigger
>>540543460like my script? its for when the internet goes out
I'm having flashbacks of this "saga picking his yamato crutch and killing the inhouse" shit
>>540543828The gun doorman carried that game not the yamato
what was the match ID
is inhouse still alive?
is the inhouse full of shitters like the old d2g inhouse? I have less than 5 games played
>>540543983V6HSXV6HSXV6HSXV6HSX
No more dupes ahhhhhhh
>>540544148You'll be right at home. There are some absolute deep sea creatures in the inhouses.
>>540544148Yes, there's people of all ranks.STOP ENABLING DUPES FAGGOTRONS
>>540544148its pretty laidback you have some total retards who are ass but the guys who are actually good aren't sweating either
I got to play Viscous for the first time, is it just me or is he overpowered as heck? I goo'd the enemy team like nothing.
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSX6 MORE FOR INHOUSE
which one of these is the goo'd build?
>>540544463why hasn't there been any mass pigger death yet?
to the two doormen that ulted me back to back, I hope both sides of your pillow are warm tonight
>>540544563>piggeroink oink my nigga
>>540544563clopper chads own you
>>540544563idk what you're on about. I just want to know which build is the goo'd one to follow. I don't play Viscous.
>>540544463these builds are bad and made by an arcanist player just use the lomein build
>>540544667shouldn't you be at your cult meeting doing something with a jar
>>540544879so the sister fister is the way to go?
>down 10k at 9 minutesplease add a fucking surrender already holy shit
>>540544568but you got a free two night stay at the baroness plus a frozen shelter retreat
>>540545058Go run the urn.
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my favourite type of state-mandated loss is when they throw your way a 0/13 Mina in your team whose only role in the entire game is to fed a 20/4 Lash that has more meth than blood in his system and can blink from the farthest corner of the map into your ass and delete 3/4 of your health in one ground strikeAll while being held hostage in that game for 45 minutes
>>540545197just jump lol
>>540545003yes 3 -> alt fire -> 1 does a lot of damage with items like spirit snatch and express shot
>>540545163urn can't save us from this shitshow
>>540545058NEVA SURRENDA
>>540542332also won a 5v6 recently, against a Drifter that killed our pocket 7 times and then he ragequitted calling us a bunch of useless retards while he was the one overpushing and forcing one-sided fights in early
1 more get in here while supplies lastV6HSX
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSX1 MORE FOR INHOUSE
you can't use ALT + button for item hotkeys?
>>540545707how much tylenol did warden swallow
bazingo get back in here
>>540545876no I only play drifter
>>540545197nooooo mina can't feed she needs NERF she is UNCOUNTERABLE!! (i read it on reddit!)
1 MORE NIGGA FOR THE INHOUSEV6HSXV6HSXV6HSX
>>540546161nobody wants to join when you articulate yourself like this faggot
how do i win when this is my team
>>5405462281 more gentleman or lady of fine standing for the internal pickup gameV6HSX
>>540546228Dearest friends, comrades, and esteemed fellow players,It is with great enthusiasm and no small amount of anticipation that I extend to you a most cordial invitation to convene, assemble, and unite within the virtual realm of Deadlock. In order to facilitate your swift and accurate passage into the very same digital gathering space wherein we shall engage in the activities, strategies, and shared adventures that await us, I present to you a code—an alphanumeric key of entry, if you will—which serves as the singular credential necessary for your participation.That code, which I now encourage you to commit to memory or, at the very least, to note with care and attention so that you might utilize it without error at the appropriate juncture, is none other than the following sequence: V6HSX.Therefore, I beseech you: take this code, this simple yet powerful combination of characters, and employ it in the designated manner so that you may successfully join us in the lobby we have prepared. Together, armed with this shared access point, we shall embark upon our collaborative journey within Deadlock’s digital frontier.So once again, with all clarity, urgency, and unmistakable purpose:Join our Deadlock lobby using this code here—V6HSX.
>>540542332viscous and paige have 0 kills. it was more like a 4v3 on your side
>>540546376I've won when I myself had 27 deaths just git gud
paper pick your hero
I wish someone made inhouse at non-degen EU hours.........
>>540546589you running a charity? sheeeeeesh
If you don't like Sinclair's ult, you are GAY and you may or may not suck COCK. Using other people's moves to beat their own ass is awesome.
Is there anything quite as gut wrenching as when you finally meet the enemy your teammates fed and their gameplay is incredibly mediocre?
>>540546925What time and timezone is that? I'll do it tomorrow
since papers not picking;V6HSXV6HSXV6HSXneed 1 for inhouse
>>540546961you want to beat your fist up peoples asses anon? sounds pretty gay to me
why cant I use left alt + key for a keybind, stupid valve
>Join inhouse missing 1 player>Sit in spot>Refuse to pick any hero for the next 10 minutesWhat did he mean by this?
I can join inhouse in 10 minutes
>ally asks for lane swap >not paying attention since I’m finishing a drink>accept>paradox/haze enemy laneI mean it could be worseBut that’s a lot of free damage for Haze
Lol, why do I see almost no one complaining about sinclair 140mm canon barrage? when parashit used to do some damage with carbine despite having that ridiculous map wide audio cue that she is charging and you should stand behind any of the 300000 pieces of cover. Sinclar gets to actually just ignore cover with half the cooldown of carbine. What a joke
>>540547971unironically because hes a cuck character no one plays
>>540548136Elaborate?
>>540547971cus sinclair fucking sucks
so assuming I am playing Sinclair. do you just follow a build or do you guys changed it depending on the ults you plan to steal.
>>540547971nobody plays him loli've played like 80 games since the new patch and maybe 8 of them had a sinclair. half of those were melee hex sinclair.
>>540548420That's a big assumption.
all characters I want to play are new, so I have to pick 6 characters to fucking queue for the fucking game, stupid icefrog
I want to learn to play Shiv. which build do I use?
>spend the past 2 days doing nothing but studying>friend convinces me to at least play a single game of DL with him>Ping suddenly spikes to an average of 350 throughout the game>Both side lines feed and lose which causes the entire team to collapse on our mid lane>Enemy Haze goes 14/1 with her one single death coming from fighting me>Huge loss, feels shit>Enemy Lash trash talking on topThis game man
>>540547971because paradox can charge from the other end of the map, come out of cover for 1s and hit you with a hitscan laser while sinclair has to deliberately telegraph his attack with both assistant + needing travel time to do the big damage and also the redirect is kind of buggy and will often aim in weird ways you didn't want so you have a lot more time to just press counterspell
>>540549557>nothing but studyingPeople actually do this?I have never had to actually study a day in my life, yet never failed anything.Not like I'm smart though.Are you a doctor or an engineer? I imagine only those professions have to actually study.
why does mo say "MORON!" before he ults you sometimes
there still a slot for inhouse? I'm gonna join if so
>>540549968b/c you're a moron for getting close to him, hope this helps
>tune in to a stream>guy from one of the /dlg/ inhouses having a meltysmall world i guess
>>540547971He's very situational desu.Give him an open space and he will absolutely rape you.Fight him indoors and dodge his polymorph, he's off cooldowns and can't do shit.His strongest ability by far is his ultimate.People don't expect to be ulted by mina/haze/shiv/seven when they're on their team.It's cooldown is also insanely short, like, you could ult at the same time as basically any hero and be ready to copy them again while they're still barely halfway through their cooldown.If his cooldowns were shorter, he'd be one of the strongest for sure.
>>540549968devs usually add voice lines like this to the most brainless simple characters that are in their game because they know the community will mock the character but if the character says something like "moron" then it allows the brainless niggers who play the character to cope by saying "haha yeah I am a better player, he shouldnt have been in warp stone phantom strike magic carpet range"
>>540550173who?kek
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSX1 slot for inhouse
>>540549968because you fell for the skill with the shortest and most avoidable range in the entire game, to the point Mo players are forced to buy phantom strike to actually land that ultonly a moron would get caught in that, like you
>>540550326Song of Silk
what slow/lockdown should I build as victor so people don't escape my aoe
>>540550394dont build slow, build speed instead
>>540550381>song of silkHoly shit these devs really don't give a shit about the gameHe does this single game gets reported by 6+ every game and nothing changes
>>540550449well, slow makes it easier to shoot at them and I do use my gun
>>540550394you don't need anyenduring speed and healing tempo will make you faster than basically anyone, including movement abilities (with retarded exceptions like mina because of course mina is mina, did I mention I fucking hate mina).Arctic blast might be good though
>>540550568Counter Strike 2 is several magnitudes more popular than Valorant. Stay off valve games faggot
>>540550568How are people typing the f and n word completely freely while I type tard once and get muted for three days?I wanna call people black and zesty too :(
>>540550568im sure he gets comms banned sometimes
>>540550660>valorant out of fucking nowhere>guy afking, throwing the game and typing paragraphs every game is acceptabledumb nigger
>>540550568so what was his damage?
Im not playing vs bebop rolling around like a retard
>>540550984>rollingHe has legs. He runs
>>540550752I have been calling people niggers and wishing cancer upon them for eons, and the most they did was mute my mic (I never use voice chat anyways)heh
>>540550752he doesn't get reported.
Kicking this faggot on sight from inhouses
>>540551253Nooo don't le heckin hook me!!
>>540551253game wont let me join back
>>540550984why not pussy
>>540549407bros...
If anyone joins and can't come back into the match everyone has to go back to lobby and start the game over.
>>540551359We are remaking just rejoin lobby
>>540551253nigga got hooked ONCE
>>540551381cause its boring, i want to laneeither put me against bebop 100 times so i can learn it or don't
why are we letting this faggot back in after quitting like that
>>540551563i dont get the problem honestly
>>540550568I always wonder if people like this ever have moments of self reflection/realizationor do they live their lives genuinely thinking they're hard as fuck for regularly having mental breakdowns while playing videogames
Ready up fellas
>>540551650its not even the hook its the retarded bomb roll forward
WE HAVE TWO KELVINS RETARDS
what the hell does this mean
>>540551614has yoshi STILL not added a ban system for custom matches?
>>540551854Your roster overlaps too heavily with other players in your party. Try adding more heroes or changing the heroes in your roster.
>>540551690its too early to know how mental illness like this turns out, maybe in like 10-15 years we will see
GGEZ
>>540551805Yeah i guess but imo the bomb does not do that much damage you should be able to seriously punish him for wasting stamina to get into you. Maybe youre playing too close to cover so he can roll into you without being shot on the way in and out?
>>540549907CompSci student with a habit of procrastinating that's trying to cram a ton of shit into my current semester due to spending a ton of semesters without doing anything due to a chronic sickness that fucked essentially kept me a living corpse for a few years. Not a Victor reference despite the fact we're in a Deadlock thread
>>540551854You cant all have the same heroes selected.
Rate my skill ratings of heroes
>>540552310those are fair points but it requires your lane teammate to also punish. I just don't have enough practice vs it and it pisses me off, thats why I rage. its not even the damage, its the playstyle it forces in lane, feels like no other character changes the lane dynamic quite like bebop
>>540542985THEY COULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FORTUNA INSTEADDOTA 2 EOS WHEN
>>540540364When the fuck are they going to nerf Haze into the dirt?Tired of this broken braindead character shitting up matches
>>540540364>Comms restricted until the 29thWhat does this mean? Just voice or text chat too?
>>540553343It means you're a retarded sperg who cant keep its mouth shut
>>540550186does copying mina's ult copy the bat count too?
Can I have uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Doorman tips? It took me like two games to realize you could shoot bells to make them explode earlier.
how do you fix sinclair?
is it wrong to see Trophy Collector as a dedicated support item exclusively? like on Mo and Krill or Dynamo or Kelvin, what you want to be doing most of the time is fighting anyway and leaving the bulk of the farm to carries, and even then it's still kinda shit because Cultist is busted and gives you better stats for the cost of a single T3 creep while also letting you actually benefit from those stats without having to stack it up first
>>540553630change the 1everything else is fine
WINIONS
stats on last inhouse???
>>540554037>change the 1what specifically
>>540554228don’t post it my kd is ASS
28-3 throw jesus christ
sanjaay refesher ulted as kevin to throw the game instantly kill and kick that faggot forever not playing with faggots like that.you can be as bad as you want to be just show up and play a nice normal ass game of deadlock but this subhuman brown behaviour can fuck right off.
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSXV6HSX1 more for inhouse
>>540554228ive never had a good inhouse game
>>540554325When did saar do that?
Ice dweller mains aren't people
>>540554374right at the end so it I couldn't stop minions from killing the patron or indeed doing it himself
>mfw Wraith/Inferus laneI'd rather piss rocks again than to deal with this godawful soul crushing lane phase
>>540554479Oh is that why the creeps killed the patron lmao
>>540553614Get mystic expansion on his bells or at the very least guardian ward (during laning phase), your 2 points in bells is a giant power spike. Don't know what your playstyle is but Piggy's build is decent, and gives you a good basis for what's solid on him. Personally I have been going guardian ward or mystic expansion, extra charge, mystic burst, and veil walker during laning stage / early game you're a strong lane bully so it's not difficult to rush, if your lane is hard purchase more conservative options.After you put 2 points in bell generally you want to max out cart, that plus veil walker makes you an absurdly good ganker early on and you can help other lanes win or just look for picks, I like to pick up cold front a good chunk of the time early too just for extra damage and to steal enemy farm.Always have a portal up if you're pushing something iffy, you can do some crazy shit like for example having a portal in the rope going up to bridge buffs next to the enemy's double sinner's, then you steal them and if someone comes you just portal out.Knockdown and artic blast make your carts really easy to land so I'd rec picking up at least one of those.Try to abuse heroes that get locked in animations with your cart, even early game this can make for some cheeky plays. Good example is recently I was playing with someone in lane, asked him to try to bait Yama's power slash and I carted her into tower and we got a kill. You can also do some stuff like bait out a parry then cart.
>>540553678I only buy trophy on kelvin because my playstyle is entirely based around milking the earlygame power of ice beam as much as possible before pivoting into a dome build for lateI've tried gun kelvin and it's okay but I just don't have as much control over the game with it and I want to feel like I'm snowballing my team
I am testing out dynamo builds because stomp is so fun and I found out that leach lets you heal a fuckload of health with a single stomp. Assuming you hit at least two enemies.Also, I just won another match with carpet dynamo again. My landing bebop partner was really good at landing hooks and bombs
>>540554686also, this is the ivy the was on my team
Why can't I access someone's profile from the game lobby? Why would this be disallowed
>>540552384Ah, that makes sense. Good luck compsci-carl
why does my game keep doing this while spectating?
>>540554873and this is the wraith on my the match before that>>540554908to avoid going to their profiles and calling them the n word
>>540549557>>Ping suddenly spikes to an average of 350 throughout the gameSo why the fuck would you keep playing retard? At that point it was an automatic loss and you kept deciding to waste everyone's time.
wtf is krill supposed to be?
>>540552592I am now imaging you are the mo downplayer because its funnier that way
>>540555079>to avoid going to their profiles and calling them the n wordBut this is a good thing. But I'm talking about deadlock profiles not steam profiles, I should be able to see your stats in game seamlessly
>>540555034It's happening to me too after like 10 minutes.
>>540554325>sanjaaylmao you cannot be serious right nowYou fags actually are indians
>>540555143Flea Man
The deadlock gods have smiled upon me after 10 games with abysmal dogshit braindamaged teams, I have been blessed with four games of full voice comp, and players that actually tryincrediblenow i shall brace for 10 more cbt (curbstomp bitch tMina) sessions
>>540555157Funny thing is i play him very little <40 games compared to my mains but he's so easy it's like a 70% winrate
>>540555251reminder to do a accent check before each game to get rid of the... undesirablesrefusal to speak results in a permanent diagnosis of brown skin
>>540555303Who were you playing in your last game
>>540549907that's probably because you are not slow.I am slow as fuck on the uptake and it takes me a considerable amount of time to anything. Doesn't help that I am actually a procrastinator as well. it is a mirable i was able to even major and get a decent paying job for so long.Once in school I was doing so bad I was grounded for like 8 months until I passed that year. My days, including weekends, were all about studying to get good grades. I would go to school in the morning and study all day at home as well.
>>540555251It's a joke account name anon
30 minute game and my retarded abrams had 9k damage
>>540555425tired of you pasty shitters in my same elo acting superior
>>540555251Kys racist
>Bear statue>Bull statueHe's in
who is good when your lane partner is retarded? I am sick of these people who can't secure a kill on a 1-hp enemy, or are farming 2 creeps while I 1v2.
Am I the only one who pushes mid lane when someone calls "go mid". Start using non ambiguous terms retards.
>>540555760>youre the retarded one
>>540555782yes, and no it is not ambiguous
>>540555760you sound like a retard that runs past wave to BROOL losing the lane souls, kill yourself
>>540553468I don't speak tho, I just call my my team niggers from time to time.>spergSorry you're so shit that you constantly get flamed bro.
>>540554574Gotcha, thanks for the detailed reply, I've been trying to play more support-y for now, pissing off the enemy carries with the Baroness is the best feeling in the world.
make the midboss a binding of isaac boss fight and two will have to survive and the one who wins gets the rejuv
>>540555827>>540556005Post a replay of you in an eternus game.inb4>erm, I can totally due that, I just won't because... erm... reasons...>no u
is there like a cheatsheat for a shitter for what items counter what heroes
doesnt matter what rank I get queued indoesnt matter if its a win or lossI do shit player dmg EVERY gameMy assists and kills are pretty high though, I feel like my presence in the fights are helpful and not there to soak up a free kill or assist
>>540555597no way you're actually, unironically, unapologetically indian lmaogtfo
>>540555469Victor, just like my last 15 games
>>540556430buy decay, pulse, and superior cd
I'm 35-45 which isn't bad but I want to see it listed like that instead of 80 games and 32 wins because that disparity makes me feel so bad :[
need to watch replays so that I can see how better players do the things I know I'm lacking at but it's boring to watch replays you know what i mean??
>>540556707>35>32huh
>>540556915i was looking at another number when i typed it
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSXV6HSXneed 2 for inhouse
geist was just there to watch the fun
>>540557153Now maybe I'm not that good at maths but that looks like 7 needed to me
what's the inhouse skill level like? if I'm still stumbling around with build guides but otherwise have a decent handle on mechanics is that ok
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSXV6HSXNeed 6>>540557291People did the most atrocious builds and then cried about try hards, had zero farm and then left while blaming the enemy team.>>540557345From initiate to phantom
>>540557345It's all over the place anon just join and play
>>540557345we're all feeders>>540557373ill hop back on in a bit
>>540557373I left because I can’t play deadlock with you unemployed neets all dayHowever, it is so homosexual that you have unironic tryhards playing KELVIN MINA WARDEN in a shitter inhouse pubs. These heroes are not even fun or able to do meme builds, so tell me why there are retards there just to shit up the match quality
fortnitepro17 plays like such a wuss
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSXV6HSXNEED 5
>>540557627As a Warden main, there are meme builds and they are really funny. Melee Warden.
>>540555760Securing a kill sometimes isnt wroth it, just a free trip to base
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSXNEED 2 FOR INHOUSE
>>540557676just... just dont try and play ok??
>>540557676the spirit building vyper
V6HSXV6HSXV6HSXV6HSX2 MORE FOR INHOUSE
>>540558346What's the average rank of inhouse players?Maybe I'll join one day but I'd feel way out of my depth as a driftwoodlow
>>540557804that would be finebut the nigga was unironically building for raping with his ult in an inhouse
>>540558440Most of these guys can't be any higher than Seeker or whatever the fuck it is down there
>>540558346I haven't yet played against other people (I just got access yesterday)Can I join the inhouse?
>>540556707SEX WITH ANIME MINA
>>540558523that's like half the players here apparently
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>>540558726I would join but you said you would kick me
>>540558915Just join
>>540558915Lying lil faggot because that guy is already on the lobby.
>>540558964too late i deleted my account out of shame for ruining dlg inhouses for everyone cause of being mad at beboop
>>540558726I just got into a match. If there are still spots I'll join after the match
>>540559191If you deleted your account how are you talking right now
>>540559265are u thinking of mr Sanjayy Simcard? thats not me
>>540559376No I mean how are you talking in this thread
>>540559476posting on vg is free
how do i stop getting queue anxiety
>>540559676smoke some crack
>>540551690>>540550568losers like this act hard then get clapped irl, they never make it out of childhood till they catch a beating honestly, and they better ho[e it's not some methed up junkie they pick fights with>>540550660Try that shit when there's a chance to get slapped little baby, somebody's gonna put you down for a nap and the only thing you'll remember is how much shit you talked but couldn't back up lol.
>>540559698drugs are bad
I think it's just joever ih bros.
>>540555251The inhouse became the brownhouse, nowhere is safe from street shitters
I just queued into a fucking eternus lobbyI hope the devs get a rectal gland stroke
Alright I waited long enough. Tomorrow's a weekend I'll try hosting for EU bros during regular EU hours
>>540555096I still had most souls and the best KD on our team </3>>540554998Thenku, only 40 more pages of the professor's script until I can go to sleep
>>540560021>gayumiss me with that shit
>>540560146That's fine because all of you American players suck absolute cocks at this game, no offence
>>540560202who are the good EU players?
>>540560270Bug Shaker was the best I've seen
>>540560318He's Polish, they're Soviet bloc along with the Ruskis
Watching this Deathy guy play Pocket is really eye opening. I will NEVER be this good at the game or even fucking close. The schmovement this guy has is unreal.
>>540558726>V6HSXno spots or is the lobby dead?
>>540560021Fun games, had a good time not having to tryhard.
>>540560367majestic leap isn't hard to use
>>540560442Lobby dead, shitters played like shit which is fine but they complained all game and then left, ih promptly died.
SAAAR WHY DID YOU REDEEM HOOK WHY DID YOU REDEEM!!!
>>540560796FOR THE REDEEEEM!
>>540559676Remember that you aren't the only retard in the lobby, there are 11 more.
Was fucking around today with video recording (for content creation :^) Had this kino happen while spectatinghttps://streamable.com/nduhs4Nobody can explain this supernatural phenomenon
>>540560893your code is my code.
>>540561170Sorse moment
>>540560796>>540560893https://youtu.be/s7NLum2llU0?si=TjT0Dmer0Q4GosEz
>>540557676he truly has the spirit of a rhodesian bvll, he sucks at fighting & runs away.
>>540561170https://youtu.be/MIM0QJS_Owk?si=Gvi3vbqD5RfhT21qOh and those are the vids i produced with high quality "recording" settingsIm thinking it looks pretty good.
Is Yamato’s model still not being updated an inside joke at this point?
>>540558090I top frag every time I play spirit vyper, thankfully low rank players don’t know how to counter it
>>540562330>top frag every time I play spirit vyper>low rank playersYeah, no shit. Try that in high elo lobbies and proceed to get rolled.
all i do all day is fucking lose and I'm scared to pick heroes that destroy me like drifter, kelvin, haze, shiv, yamato because I'm worried I'll be a waste of a slot on them but I don't want to fall into my dota habits of just playing support/util because it's the easy fall back and comfort pick you know I don't know what to do with myself
>>540562936The more you worry about losing the slower you'll improve at the game.
What do I buy against knife Shiv debuff remover isn't enough cause he runs decay and has a billion charges, feels very cancerous to fight
>>540562936maybe you should just keep playing pocket even if you do bad at himyou can't git gud without being bad
>fought gun ivy last gameyeah anyone who thinks that shit isnt good should not be allowed to vote, you are not worthy of self-determination and freedom.
New guy here: three real games in and I got shitstomped but Im having fun with Mcniggis and Lash. I just want some general tips in terms of when I should roam and the minutes runes and the gambling machines come online.
So is return fire now scaling from your own gun, or enemy shooting youBecause im conflictedThey changed that item like 3 times by now
>>540562936Yamato is fun as fuck just play her
>>540563364she was pretty clunky when I tried her.
>>540563362>roamif you completely stomp your lane and see an opportunity in another lane for a gank>machines8 minutes, then every 5 minutes after being destroyed>runesevery 5 minutes
>>540563474Clunky? She's smooth as butter.
Why don't inhouse fags just all share their ranks so games are less fucked and the teams can be balanced
>>540563183debuff remover is more than just the active. It lowers the duration of all debuffs- including stuns, by 30%. You want to use the active when he decays you or when he has multiple stacks of bleed on you.For late game options also put spell breaker ontop of it, cheaper options include shit like blood tribute and weighted options. You'll get around 50+ debuff reduction which is literally half duration from the bleed he gives. Though knife shiv is just a pretty dogshit build.
>>540562208She isn't even the only one still using her Neon Prime model.I think the reason most people notice Yamato first when it comes to unfinished/outdated models is because everyone expects the jap girl to look cute like Mina or like a JAV actress.
>>540563194>himFUCK YOU
>>540563547cuz rank in this game is a joke and 90% of the playerbase is on initiate 1
Doorman is finally making sense stopped a steal at rejuv with cart and door, was great but we lostI hit t2 on bell for lane then rush t3 door + greater expansion. I feel like I should do bell maxing because I cant hit cart for shit or should I go cart and start learning? I really only use it to push divers out of us.
>>540563364She does no damage
>>540563076>>540563194ok thanks
>spent half a game sprinting and jumping around the map with an enemy drifterActual road runner shit
>>540563547we could but that would be too smart
>>540563954sounds like a skill issue
>>540563547I checked stat locker from the last inhouse match and the highest rank was archon 2 (me), I couldn't find 4 peoples profiles for w/e reason
actually the way to solve inhouses is captains draft
>3+ people all verbally agree to try to fight on yellow to try and comeback since we're just getting picked off>one retard without saying anything goes to get urn>we get a pick off but because king retard didnt come it's 5v5>get wiped >he shows up later and gives them urn which they promptly turn in
anyone feel like items don't have strong feedback like they do in dota? I mean in the sense that you pick something up and you immediately feel the use or power from it? everything seems so incremental and the only impactful pickups are some of the 6400 items where dota has items that you really feel in your build starting with shit like force staff, maelstrom, helm, mom, orchid, most of the support items, etc
>>540564207Some 1600/3200s are absolute game changers
>57 fucking results of some autist spamming the thread begging for people to join his shit customcan you annoying trannies fuck off to a discord instead of spamming the general?
cute girls or cool monster champs for a new player to main?
when am i supposed to buy healing rite vs extra regen vs restorative shot?
>>540564301Because in dota you only have 6 slots for items and it takes forever to get each of your big items but I don't really agree that it's less impactful in deadlock, a lot of actives are very good and there's plenty of items that provide really good passives i.e. tesla bullets or spirit burn or whatever.
>>540563504Thanks, so far last hitting and lane is not a problem but when things kick into mid to late game I get fucked.
>>540564207As expected. Dota only has 6 slots, doesn't it?>>540564443>restorative shotif you can aim>healing riteif not>extra regenif enemies are proactive and shut down your rite. probably the worst t1 green item?
>>540564432>cute girlsPaige, Mina, Vindicta is dogshit, don't play her.>cool monsterMo&Krill is the most retard-proof character and fun as fuck too, just ult anyone while your team murders them.
>>540564564you can consider lane "over" when you take the enemy guardianas mcniggis, you'd be better off staying and pushing lane while soaking farm from boxes/jungle, while lash is great at roaming and picking up kills for your teammatesyou'll get the hang of it with time.
>>540564415>can you fucks stop socializing in this thread and making fun gaming sessions with dlgchadsI hope I never see you in an inhouse.
>>540564207most of those items have direct expies with around the same game impact (warp stone, tesla bullets, fury trance, focus lens)the game moves a lot faster though, to the point where a power spike is only like a minute if you don't start steamrolling
>>540564689you can advertise your dogshit low quality customs but you absolutely do not need FIFTY FUCKING SEVEN results over double digit posts spamming the same fucking game, faggot newtranny groomer.
>>540564750>WAAAH WAAAAAAH
>>540564301even the 800 items makes laning against some cancerous lanes easily>oh whats that? you picked Abrams/Billy/Calico? how cute>buys headshot booster or rebuttal>oh, and your friend is a Haze/Infernus?>buys rusted barrel
>>540564750>using every buzzword in the bookok song of silk
>>540564750incel freak malding over people having funkek
>>540564850>silksong's 24 hour peak is basically the same as deadlock'show come trannies hate silksong so much lol
>>540557676Didn't leave until the game was over btw. I guess since I didn't wait for the long ass animation to finish this fake news faggot gets to make some shit edit about it.This nigger sits around all day waiting for people to join his custom games (that he calls inhouses because he's a pretentious retard), just so he can pick the most metafag shit you already face every game in pubs, then puts together these cute lil collages after. Next level life loser.
>>540564207It’s because this game has a much higher skill ceiling with regards to movement and aim. If you added insanely op items on top of that then some players would be completely unstoppable
>>540564819>>540564850>>540564856you are friendless fucking losers with nobody to play with so you subject yourselves to playing with subhumans from this general.your lives are fucking sad.
>>540564928see>>540550568
>>540564969Keep malding because people are playing the way they want and not the way you think they should play
>>540565021nah I got other bros too. most people are normal but you do get freaks on occasion, like yourself.
>>540564415shut up retard
>>540565041why not just ban him from inhouses
>>540565131>nah I got other bros too.yeah, I sure bet you do. LMFAO
>perform poorly all game>teammates carry me>type "gg ez" when we win
>>540565204Yes, I have many good friends.
>>540565140He doesn't do that in inhouses but since he does it every game he spazzed out against/with dlgers.He was winning this game by like 30k souls and then decided to basically throw by standing still and shittalk.
is it ok to spaz out like one chat message in matchmaking or is that bad mental and people will hate me and i will eventually deteriorate mentally? like that dude who chews soup i told him he's a soup chewer but i said gg at the end of the game
>>540565128You already used that on the other dissident in this thread who isn't part of your gay lil club. Get some new material bro, this anon >>540564850 won't be happy you're using buzzwords!
>>540565262that's why there's a not so secret /lolg/ list so you know if you're playing with a complete retarded faggot or not. maybe you guys should start one
Jungle tards when do you do the BIG triple camp in your side of the map
>>540565332studies show that verbalizing negativity leads to more negative thoughts>>540565451when you get cultist lol
Song of silk really doubling down.
>>540565381What the fuck are you even on about retard. If you want to play the game casually, then why would you be mad that you lost? That's not casual talk, that's someone who is just looking for an excuse to cry about losing.
>>540565451whenever i damn well please
I wish jungle was viable and not just filler souls. Feels garbshit to kill jungle camps all game and be bottom souls.
>>540565554wow almost like you're not supposed to exclusively kill the jungle
What's stopping the meta from being like 2/1/2 and then a jungler?
>>540565554>nooo I can't just be stronger than the enemy by completely ignoring them all game while starving the rest of my team
can the paige coomer slop posters come back, this slapfighting is way shittier
>feel like i'm farming super well>taking lots of camps and sinner's>always catching waves solo>only like 1k ahead of my teammates>even with enemy teamidgi. a seven can disappear for 2 mins and come back 5k ahead, i can do that shit for 5 and only be up 1
Serious question, why do you guys all talk like flaming, histronic faggots? Is it just this general or the whole board? Feels like I'm reading /co/ or tumblr.
>>540565653Because that's not how XP works. Jungle camps give less XP than waves and take longer to kill early game while draining a ton of health. The jungle is not something you're supposed to sit in and farm. In an ideal situation you farm jungle in-between waves, that's how people get giga farmed along with stealing enemy jungle camps.
>>540565653Troopers giving way more souls and in less time than the jungle mobs. And they don't spawn at game start. Plus guardians are so weak that playing defensively in a 2v1 would not work.
>>540565778deadlock seems to attract a lot of faggots and degenerates
>>540565653try it out. you sound smart. you sound like you can define THE meta.
>>540565653Jungle camps are too strong early game, have below minimum wage-tier soul returns and don't even give you any special buffs like they do in League, it's just not worth it at all.
>>540565921I don't sound smart at all I'm asking a question
>>540565653Because 2/1/2 means introducing an enforced pecking order, and I don't want to play a game with two mandatory paige-type heroes on each team. Also a player running the same memorized speedrunning route on autopilot for 10 minutes before they start playing the game is retarded.
>>540565778It's just one guy sperging out I'm sure.
>>540544463none of them, these builds are shitlow bait to keep you hardstuck. Use the VeMi or Lomein builds
>every game a mina>every game a drifterBANS FUCKING WHEN?
>>540566004>ntroducing an enforced pecking order, and I don't want to play a game with two mandatory paige-type heroes on each team.Mark my words when this game comes out all it'll take is some fucktuber saying "yoooo glorpo and gimly is an unbeatable duo" and you'll have people demanding to switch with them and saying GG we lose if you don't
>>540566093>every game a mina>oh nooo i have to play vs the 45% winrate herowow that's tough bro ouch
>>540566172must suck to be in pisslow.
the way you pop in and out of camps right now is so much better than having a dedicated ape roaming around the "jungle"
>>540566093>every game a drifterHardly, Haze on the other hand...
I have no clue how to tell if my builds are good or if I'm just outplaying everybody.
>>540566093crazy to me that mobatards normalized not learning matchups but tbf I guess there's not much you can learn about "and then the guy A-moves at you with his statwall and maybe presses Q" so fair enough. no excuse for not learning it in this game though
>>540565653>camps are too strong early and don't even spawn for a few minutes>give shit returns compared to lane creeps and take too much HP for it to be worth it>you are completely starving the entire rest of your team of extra resources if all you're doing is going around taking sinners farming jungle and taking bridge buffs so if they don't dominate lane or fall behind they are even more turbofucked>sitting around and permajungling all game in relative safety would also force the enemy to play at disadvantage if you're a carry since they have to actively hunt you down on the enemy side of the map with no vision or risk getting assraped in 20 minutes because they literally had no other way of shutting you down
>>540566093Uhmmm... Are you fucking stupid? If you want to play a game without Mina/Drifter/Haze/Infernus, then just don't play? Like, don't complain about it. Stop malding and be accepting and inclusive to how other people want to play and also of people who are of different religious and ethnic backgrounds, ok??
You'll think there will be 100+ heroes in this game? I could see them trying to do a 1-3 hero release patch every couple months for awhile leading up to and after release.
>>540566550cool shitpost
>>540566501>>you are completely starving the entire rest of your team of extra resources if all you're doing is going around taking sinners farming jungle and taking bridge buffsI used to think this way but then the enemy seven/wraith/yamato/haze would just take all of that shit instead of my team even if I ping it so they can get fucked
>>540566625idk, the amount of animations/level of detail seems way more demanding than for a normal moba
Deadlock sucks, megabonk chads rise up
comeback mechanics arent real
Didn't realize this before. But every hour on the dot a bell will ring in the hideout lobby.
Also every 60 seconds a minute passes
>>540565517>>540565553that's not helpful I need to know when I can rap- I mean drifter you
if you leave you need to have your account instantly banned
>>540567361good news that actually does happen!
>>540567306get back to losing lane with your short as fuck attack range, vagrant
wraith's spirit scaled sprint speed should become something like out of combat stamina regenbecause if you rotate properly it's literally useless since vents are faster
Every game is some tranny on mina and always on the enemy team. Why
>>540568031its okay saga
>>540566027what's vemi?
>>540568167some eternus viscous main who has a public build
>>540556493You lost. Trump has a dogshit approval rating and you will lose.
how do you know if you're improving if 80% of the pop is in initiate because of the way they have mm set up right now?
>>540568304self-reflection
>>540563474yeah it's called a skill floor
>>540568304you watch a replay of your game and observe how well you individually played. did you blunder. were you lasthitting. were you making use of the jungle. etc. the results screen alone is sort of meaningless
>>540568487when i watch a replay i'm so bad and i'm worried part of it is because i'm old hella old and so washed
>>540568591observing your mistakes is the first step in correcting them
>>540567063diegetic as fuck
>>540568304>>540568487>>540568448>80% of the pop is initiateYou realize they don't play right you stupid fucking retard. They are people who have logged into deadlock one time.
>>540568591>i'm.. le oldso what nigger? analyze your gameplay and see where you fucked up and do your best to avoid fucking up in those aspects again
>>540568031it's ok bebopxister
is it ok to queue mm if youre abusing prescrx medication and drinking
they're gonna let the game's population die again, aren't they?
>>540569280Uhh we had 6 million (alleged) votes bro, the game is alive and well!
>>540569280they know that all the goldfish attention span faggots will flock back the second a patch drops, they'll take their time
>>540569280no
>durr is gaem dead? when is LE PATCH? DAE bored of da current meta?!learn to cope with being bored lil bro
GG Bison
TUMBLING DOWNTUMBLIND DOWNTUMBLIND DOWN
>>540569728this haze and dynamo need to commit suicide what we're they even doing all match
>>540569827>hasn't updated since the 4th>next update is most likely the 3rd>longest period between updatesDidn't even adjust how rank decay works so the matchmaking is still fucking garbage while in the climb back up.
>>540568591>muh ageif quake boomers can still shit on 80% of players then you can too
>>540570029Quake boomers are literally built different thougheverbeit
>phantom 6>ritualist lobbieswhy this happen
so do you use top daily guide builds or look up youtube guides and use those? i really don't know what to do
>>540570185they just got a lot of practice in manyou don't see the hundreds of hours where they were NPC-tier on the scoreboard
>>540569861Current meta is too snowbally AND teammate reliant, I hate it, you guys had a lead but the Mina did jack with it, I started roaming and diving with ult and game crumbled from there, the worst part is that they did a lot of attempts at fixing this shit and apparently they didn't matter after all.Honestly that game was mostly on your Mina being the average Mina retard, carried by the character being a war crime in lane and had a massive lead early but post lane fed me two kills for no fucking reason (with bag), bitch was farming tier 3 camps in between OUR walkers completely alone.She also never pushed for any objectives despite playing fucking Mina.Then I got Curse for her and dynamo and they couldn't play the game, all she had to do was buy ethereal shift since there was also a Billy but I guess I can't expect much from high emissary/archon/Mina players.
>>540570331All the top daily guides are rancid self-promoters and there's no way of telling whether a guide is actually good or not. Ironically it's more difficult to choose a good guide than to just choose good items.
what are you guys talking about, is inhouse still active or what
does being comms banned do anythingI can still type in chat, and I never use voice to write my egregious shit
How do I get in the secret test servers
>>540571178be a streamer
>>540571178Rape drifter in an alleyway
if you play dynamo, mina, ivy or pocket kill yourself
>>540571395why are dynamo and pocket there
>>540571395Dynamo is honest thoughbeit.
>>540571395bros complaining about dynamo and pocket skull emoji
>>540571178the entrance is under the truck
>>540571395This but mainly for Pocket what the fuck where they thinking with the fucking debuff remover bullshit?Can't wait for the fucking nerf because she's ass raping pro.
>>540571510>I should be able to remove ultimates with a 3200 item no.
>>540571607Then nerf the fucking ultimate if you're gonna remove all counterplay.
>>540571395>complaining about Dynamoone of the fattest hitboxes in the game, one easily dodged basic spell and a dinky little pistolgetting caught in his ulti is literally a skill issue
>>540571510>>540571640It doesnt even kill you, just stop being a brooling retard and back up if youre too stupid to get hit by it
>>540571640bro just walk away
>>540571736>>540571768Enjoy the nerf pocket troons.
AIEEEEEEEE THE FROGS ARE OVERPOWERED
i'm a newshitter and don't get how to lane against hazethey just seem to own every lane i face against them
>>540572158haze is op
>lose 1st urn>lose gameso fucking fun
>>540570690no we just ran into each other in solo q
I had fun the few inhouses I played but I'm never on when they happen, hopefully some happen late night est this weekend
the only thing that's "OP" about pocket ult is that he can do it and instantly contribute value to a teamfight before fucking off to do anything else
>>540572158What hero are you playing>>540572253Haze is not a strong laner most of the cast is better than her at that stage
what are the best PC settings for this game? No matter what settings I adjust I can get the game running fine during laning but my frames always tank whenever a big fight takes place
>die in lane>come back to enemy with 1.5 health bars and lane is overso fun
>wow these guys have good aim>drifter ult them>they still can track me at range while being blinded>wasn't in their line of sight before they got blinded>nvm they're just cheating
>>540573594ivy/abrams
>be bad>want to get better>keep being bad>want to kill myself
Billy is actually terrible design, wtf do you even do when he's ahead? He steals your hp with TWO separate sources and you cant get away from him because of chain. It's just so cancer
>>540573773Feels like about 25% of players are aimbotting for some reason...
>>540573882He doesn't steal hp, retard
how do I know if my build is good?
>>540573882>t. billy
>>540574048siphon + blasted is like 1000+ hp every fight, eat my ass
>>540573882consider pressing f sometime
>get pushed out of lane to heal>lose gameso fucking stupid
>>540573773feel like this happened to me with haze and mina players quite often
>>540574209Post it to reddit. 10 upvotes = good
>>540574382I think I'm the only haze player who goes positive that doesn't aimbot.
Are they doing anything about cheaters in this game? I just got matched against a Haze with aimhacks.
>>540574365>press f>eat 50 bullets and still get siphonedthanks man
>>540574646how does he do that when he's stunned? please teach me this secret billy tech
>>540519494who was it?
>>540574640there is no anti-cheat in the game and all bans are manual so in effect no they are not doing anything unless it gets really egregious
>>540542332this paige on full spirit did less damage than the full support paiges I've seen. Incredible.
>>540542332more like a 5v3, that viscous,yamato,vyper statline is vile
>>540566093>every game a Gray Talon>every game a Mina>every game a IvyIt's fucking maddening but I know that once those get nerfed I'll just see Infernus every single game again and he rapes my main way more than those three.
>>540572352First urn is only 3000 souls, which is 500 for everyone in the team. Not even enough for one item. It absolutely isn't the end-all be-all, you're just looking for excuses
>>540574224>>540574365>>540574750>>540574048behold this random mexican pressing one button and dominating for freehttps://streamable.com/e2x28b
>>540573819Haze has infamously been one of the weakest laners in the game since the gun meta of early 2024 was dethroned. It's all a matter of realizing how fragile she is to poke.>IvyBuy Headshoot Booster and use it off cooldown. Just hold M1 more than Haze does, you do more gun damage and have more health than her. Restorative Shot is good. Battle Vest could also be good. I hope you're not running spirit.>AbramsPlay passively. If she's poking you too much, put one point into Infernal Resilience (for the +1.5 regen) and buy Extra Regen, this will give you 7 health regen per second.Always play the veils. Most heroes cannot contest Abrams in a veil. Get T2 shoulder charge ASAP, if she tries to contest you in veil when you have your guaranteed heavy melee then she will be dead.
nox nostra stacks should increase bat density instead of cast time
>>540575692all infinite stacking abilities should be removed actually
>come back to lane>splatter+mystic shot alt fire goonigger shit with the hitbox of half the lane hits me for 400 damage on min 4fuck this goonigger and anyone who plays him
Am I the only one who thinks Holiday is jank as fuck because of her barrel ability? It feels absolutely horrible throwing them, they never go where you’re aiming unless you’re aiming straight ahead and they have this weird negative velocity and sometimes they don’t roll at all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1nrgzu9/the_perfect_sinclair_ult/more billy propaganda, look at how broken this guy is
>>540575825Yeah it's awkward as fuck. I don't get why you toss em and then melee them in the direction you want when you could just aim them instead. I assume it's some shit they hacked together to get it out the door and they'll do another pass on it.
it is me or is unstoppable just not good and nobody buys it anymore
>>540575991Oh I didn’t know about the melee thing, at least now I can get them where I want them but yea I’m not sure if it was intentional or not
>>540575521>for freeHere's SOME of the reasons why your retards lost:- No one bought a single counter. I think I heard one counterspell go off, but that was a solid second or two before the actual pull because they are retarded and mistimed it. Any counters and proper usage of them could have prevented this.- No one was keeping watch of the likely entrances. Everyone was bunched together in the same spot. What the fuck do you think Billy ult does? You can't put 2 and 2 together? Billy is alive and has ult and he really wants to him, and you can't figure out what he's going to try to do? Genuinely mind-blowingly stupid. Doorman could have simply carted Billy away. Abrams could have ulted or shoulder charged him. Instead you guys let him go in for free.- No one shot the Billy for a solid 20 seconds after the urn steal. Bad target priority.- Everyone let him throw heavy melees for free because they constantly turned their backs away from the carry and instead hyperfocused the PAIGE of all peopleGenuinely that entire team is stupid and Billy is simply higher IQ than you
>>540576260i still buy it semi-frequently on heroes like dynamo because people know to stun me out of big ults
>>540576260I won a game because of Unstoppable the other day. There was a Doorman, a Dynamo and a Bebop that were using their CC off cooldown on me, including Curse and Disar Hex, and the CC was the only thing keeping me from melting them.
>>540576318go my child and donkey kong your enemies
>>540575521how is this so much more broken than infernus/dynamo/lash/abrams etc doing the exact same thing? wow he stole reju with his ult thats NEVER been done before in this game! the way you worded it I expected him to wipe the whole team by himself but his team steals ONE reju and then half his team fucking dies wow real domination right there the game is basically over ggnever waste my time again retard
>>540575614competent hazes will not go in the veil of all things (and don't need to), will double jump the charge or even sleep dagger the shoulder charge on reaction. haze is not a weak laner and you're delusional spreading bad info like that.
I just can't find it in me to complain about Billy in a game where heroes like Seven and Ivy and Infernus exist
is Mystic Shot overtuned? seems like people are buying it just to shit on lanes. like Cold Front for heroes that can't guarantee the spam of it.
I played a game yesterday with a dude calling movement and objectives all game and it carried us to winHow do you know when you're good enough to make calls like that?
so LIGHTBRINGER is just the master build chef now?
>>540577175when you're watching a win or loss occur in slow motion and you can accurately predict world events dozens of seconds before they occur.Basic shit like "this is a favored urn, and none of my teammates are even considering grabbing it. So the team's entire capability to run this urn hinges soley on me telling somebody to go get it."source: i'm that guy
>>540577185I will say every build I've used of his was very good
>game with multiple damage types, item charges and stamina bars>if you spec into too many of them, you become a glorified spectatoreasily my least favorite part of the game right now. Hybrid is a cosmetic build unless your hero happens to magically proc free spirit off their gun. For everyone else, go fuck yourself, buy one of a single color or get raped and do nothing for 40 minutes
>>540577808sounds like a skill issue.
>>540577808Game needs more (non-melee flavored) abilities that scale off of weapon, like paradox 3. Or abilities that can scale perfectly off of both.
>>540577185>includes 70% of the items in the game in the build and writes “maybe buy this, can be good” under itSo this is the power of pro builds…
>>540577952unironically
>watch streamer>playing drifter>says drifter's gun sucks>no gun items>says drifter is so slow>no movespeed items...what did you expect?
>>540576620because billy is unkillable those characters are easy to kill, beyond maybe sometimes infernus, at least he has to cast his 2. Billy has almost 100% uptime
>>540578145you can just say zerggy, it's ok
>>540577808Hybrid build are actually good youre probably just buying bad items. Drifter is way better with hybrid instead of pure gun
I refuse to farm and only brool. Guess my rankBonus: also guess my hero/champion/mystic
>>540578372Ritualist.
>>540577952>every item in the build says "this is CRAZY on XYZ hero, ABSOLUTE must buy!">does not elaborate
>>540577185>12th bestlet me guess, this guy grinds with stacks
how do you deal with holliday in lane?her headshots just chunk me for 400 while im trying to get bites off
Why do Haze players stubbornly follow a single guide? Why doesn't this guide AT THE VERY LEAST SAY to buy 1 green item so your health pool isn't sub 1000 while the spirit burst enemy has 2k
How am I supposed to win this game?
>>540578946see >>540568487
>>540578890Ok I’ll bite, why is Spiderman in the image
>>540579181lash mod
>>540578890Crackshot has a 20 second cooldown, love bites has no cooldown, just fucking shoot her.It is literally impossible for her to win any extended trades vs that terrorist hero.
>>540579339holiday can just pop out of cover and do literally 1/4th of a low level minas health before ducking behind cover before love bites builds up though
>>540577185this guy was a torbjorn onetrick back in the day
>>540579442If she's INSTANTLY headshotting you the moment she's out of cover that's just a skill difference.Play the lane from safer angles, you shouldn't be losing lane to anyone as mina.
anyone have that image equating dota abilities to deadlock abilities? or maybe it was items I don't rememberi.e., dynamo ult - enigma ult
>bebop buys VW at minute 3>you are now fundamentally forced to clear wave from a mile back and hide afterwards for potentially 10 straight minutes, unless you're playing one of the select few heroes capable of brawling bebop in the aftermath of him hookbomb raping you
Why can't I give my teammates souls? Like a wire transfer.
why would i buy a green item when i can just get 75 hp from a single sinners box
>>540576708If she doesn't go in the veil then you shouldn't be having problems getting poked so much. She doesn't need to, but then she has very little way to contest you from shooting minions and poking her and will have to rely on her lane partner to do so.If she dodges your charge, consider playing better, such as not making it so obvious. And don't charge a Haze with sleep dagger if she has her eyes on you, you are still an Abrams and you are easy to hit. The fact you are having trouble with Hazes dodging your charge clearly shows you are simply incapable of nuance and ambushing.>haze is not a weak lanerMaybe consider you are just bad at the game.
>>540579851funniest shit everbebop players are allowed to abuse the one half-decent early game strategy they have before it gets nerfed to the ground next patch
>>540580012veil walker is a globally broken item desu, invisibility on demand, with a heal AND movement buff to top it off every 12 seconds is absurd and good on every single hero. everyone is buying it
is being frustrated to the point of feeling like my self worth is affected by my game results something to bring up with a therapist
>>540541072New York
>>540580086never seen a veilwalker paige
never seen a veilwalker at all until i bought one on calico and lost
>>540580132yes, I hope you get better
>>540580132If you want to get your money's worth.I imagine the average therapist is sort of retarded and will just tell you to stop playing, rather than addressing the underlying ego problem that causes you to get mad at something pointless like losing at a video game.
The black woman of Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>540559795You talk like a really stupid nigger, I'm the same person irl and would laugh in your faggot faceStick to Riot games
>>540571178Do you post feedback on the forums?
The sexy women of Valve originality.These are TWO fuckable characters.
>>540579941>starts gas lightingstats don't lie, anons do
>30 games played>seeker 2i'm so f*ucking good...
2am matchmaking (both games played one after another)
>>540580816kill yourself shit stain
>>540580939That's not very nice
>>540577185if you're willing to trust a washed overwatch player.i've only seen his victor and yamato builds and they're trash.
>>540579860you can actually.grind the neutrals and build a big cache of unsecured souls and then use blood sacrifice to get your HP to 1 and suicide to a neutral camp.i have genuinely considered this but i only play solo and rarely ever see anyone worth funneling into that isn't already just playing well and already fed.that and dying could mean the enemy takes rejuv or something that late into a game.
>>540578185Nigga there is an Abrams, a Bebop, a Paradox, a Mo and a Doorman on Sapphire. If they wanted to they could chain 6 different forms of CC that would make Billy entirely unable to play if he's such a trouble player. They quite literally have Exodia on Sapphire Flame, this should be the most one-sided game ever. There is no world where Billy's team should be winning.
EUW lobby or inhouse?
>wraith trying to rat our patron>go back, she runs away from me on sight>my build passively gives me 14 movespeed and slows>she just dies for nothing and we win the game 6v5pathetic.
>>540578243you're right. he's pretty good at the game so I didn't expect a take like this from him.
>>540579851if bebop buys the 3200 veilwalker you can buy the 1600 reactive barrier + cold front or backstabber to tank the bombs and do a bunch of damage in response as he tries to sneak away. or buy counterspell for 3200 instead>b-but I wanna buy generic stat up items so my m1/nuke does more damage
>>540581539>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EU
>>540580414I would if 3/4 of the forum wasn't locked behind being private
>>540582095Just because post visibility is restricted doesn't mean you can't post there.You're supposed to post in the private forums so that the devs can see your unmolested feedback.
>>540582197oh, I thought that was only for the super best and smartest test server players
>>540581685>game is decided by one retard running down a lane solo
Anyone else in the top 1% of deadlock stats?
>>540582020?
>>540571395why he say fuck me for
>>540575521Retard
I will keep abusing Ivy to rank up until they nerf herI will keep abusing Abrams until they nerf himAnd when they finally do, I will abuse InfernusAnd if they ever nerf him, I will just abuse Seven because he will never get nerfed.
>>540583003https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk
>>540582770i'm one of the best.
>>540582095What made you think it's LOCKED?
>>540583372
>>540583372Victor main?
>>540583460mo and krill, but i get victor 1 in every like 12 matches.
>>540545197My favorite type of designated loss is when I get a Vyper in my team.
>>540579108I watch my replays and I don't see what I am doing wrong. Honestly. Like obviously I am, I just don't see what the problem is.
Mina actually just makes me unfathomably mad. I literally seethe at the sight of her.I fucking hate everything about her. I wish draft picks exist solely so I could fucking ban her ever game.I hate her. I hate the trannies who play her. I hate her abilities. I hate her bratty attitude, I hate her fucking ult.I wish Valve would disable her just to see the seething trannies
>>540583372I know what you are, jungle man. Dexter.gif
how much hp/s does the fountain actually heal?is it just a percentage or something? flat amount + percentage?
>>540583670she sucks, just use slowing hex or silencer. I kill her in less than 3 seconds with ease
>>540583718it's probably padded because i have like 5.6k life at endgame so endgame fights spike my stats.
>>540583732It's percentage based. Don't have the exact percent number though.
>>540577185the only lightbringer build Ive used was a really funny yamato one that rushed enchanters barrier and combat barrier in lane, then rushed veil walker so you would have like 1000 shield every time you walked into veil plus all the bonus stats
>>540584064that wasn't an original build, that was just the barrier meta.
>>540584175nah he invented it, at the time no one was rushing double barrier/veil especially with no other items first in lane, and definitely not on yamato
>>540583003abrams is the honest shoto of this game, he even has to uniquely pay money to get his ult while everyone else gets it by leveling up
>run in as Victor>teammates sit back and stick their fist up their own asses>repeat ad nauseamVictor ult should be changed to be Billy ult, but it pulls in teammates
>>540584351I will use it to pull my teamates out of the jungle
>>540583670Mina is actually cancer. She's not even that good but when she wins it's just 100% bullshit where she's nuking all your buildings from her teammates standing in front of her. Terrible design
>"oh thats a 6-win streak you got there? thats cool!">"here, have a 0/10 wraith and a 1/14 yamato as your mid lane">"and they both fed a haze that'll instantly delete your whole team in one single ult before you can even drop knockdown on her"thank you Valve
>>540584630Just buy disarming hex bro
>15 minutes into the game>infernus shows up and does 2k+ damage in three seconds (not hyperbole) with gun/afterburn/toxic bullets/napalm amp>people ITT will unironically tell you that not only is he not OP, that he's not even good and even bad early/mid gamesome of you niggas are playing an entirely different game in an entirely different reality
Man I hate infernus, I wish he was strong but not only is he not OP, he's not even good and even bad early/mid game.
>>540584772some people play some terrible ass builds.don't know where they even find them, are all the popular builds for him just shitty ones or something?i've seen infernus players with 10k+ net worth over everyone else and they're still useless.
>>540584852This is bait.
>>540584852
>>540584678the other 4 teammates that weren't subhumans like the mid lane bought everything to stop her and a kelvin.it was pointless in the end because we were just the 4 of us trying to carry a game while the other two niggers were doing God knows what on the map, not even farming because they were both under 10k souls at minute 30.God I wasn't this fucking mad at the game in a while.
>>540584772Only cause you need to buy capacitor for him. And people dont. Debuff reducer also good for cucking his burn ticks
>>540575806Don't forget that paradox is the problem for doing less than half of that with a skill.Still fully convinced her winrate is skewed somehow.
uhhh... you know what, is this game even fun anymore
>>540585190Carbine damage isn't why she's good
>>540585086he just reapplys them
>bitch whines all match long>deals half the damage as the person he was bitching againstLMAO LOL KEKKERONI HOPE YOU ARE HERE AND YOU NEVER FORGET
military guy with a garand as primary whenult is summoning a fucking tankoh and the tank is crewed by ghosts because deadlock
>>540585268Try setting random goals that make the game more fun. Do some meme builds. Rank doesn't matter anymore just do you and you'll also get gud in the process.
>>540585481hell yeah>>540585268its like any moba. 60% of the game you feel miserable, 20 you feel extra shit and then there's the highs
>>540585301Is it because she's a worse bebop?
>>540584582This, this is the fucking problem. Her kit is designed to be an annoying little cunt who tickles you until it fucking hurts.Oh want to fight her? lolOh whats that, an unattended objective? LmaoFUCK Mina
>>540586304I'd remove the recast on her escape
>>540585481Tank probably wouldn't work sadly.However, artillery barrage would be sickhis 1 could be a grenadeMaybe a mark or something in there too
Doorman might be the best 1v1er in the game if you're using your util properly
>>54058477215 minutes into the game I have phantom strike and whenever infernus shows up I kill him
>>540586416arty barrage is already mcginnis
>>540586612i've ranked up to ritualist and can count on one hand the amount of doorman players that actually manage to wombo combo the post-ult follow up.if i get one on my team i always assume he is going to be dead weight.
>so far the most successful Shiv build I've tried maxes 3, the skill everyone sucks off, dead lastThis character is a mess
>>540586868It's been like this ever since he released tf you on about
>>540586868Bro you're behind like 7 months
They could easily add destructible glass that has ghosts repair it after a set amount of time and other dynamic map elements.If there is no destruction then the static map is really going to show its age in this next generation
Holy shit I never read what rebuttal actually does, it actually returns the damage not just gives you the 30% extra damage. For 800. What the FUCK that is so goddamn good against melee nigs like billy. And cooldown!
>>540586925>>540586932What drugs are you on? All current talk about Shiv is about his 3 being great and makes him so hard to kill and blah blah blah
>>540587106ummm
Daily reminder that eastern europeans are a plague upon the civilized world
>Play against a gun doorman as mina>Half of my HP disappears in two shootsWhat the fuck. I knew his gun was strong, but that's a little ridiculous.
>>540587565He has no abilities that buff his gun though so he falls off extremely hard
If doorman's name isn't theodore I'm gonna be pissed
>>540573773Had like 3 out 5 games with a cheater in them few days ago.Most cheaters toggle just before they start trading with you in lane or running you down late game so they aren't that obvious but you can still see them miss you while standing still, but then 5 seconds later they land 10 headshots on you while flying sideways. And then there was this nigger who never stopped toggling and had like 16k crit damage and 5k weapon damage. Worst part is nowadays the enemy team would never report their cheater because they will end up with a player less which is autoloss at my rank. Maybe they should just make it so the game becomes invalid if a cheater gets frogged and that faggot gets perma banned.
Krill puts growth hormones in Mo's food without his knowledge
>>540586746Post ult follow up? Like cart? Usually the combo is artic blast or knockdown into cart bell then maybe ult to confirm kill, basically 1 shots a most of the squishies in the game
>>540588273Mo is going to be a fine boywife to Krill.
>>540588273Mo puts shrink hormones in Krill's food but Mo is also a fat fuck who eats most of Krill's food
mo has such a great ass
>join game>Mina player types something gay or trans codedIs this a contractual obligation for playing the character?
>>540586739Hers is mobile, I am talking like off map big blast, a mini nuke
Lightbringer builds are actually good going by his drifter one, Drifter is actually hard to build for but he did a good one
>>540587831His spirit is useless past min 30 too, at this point just buy a refresher and become an ult bot. I have no idea how to carry as Doorman, will keep playing him anyway
>>540588851Drifter is easy to build for though. Enduring speed, fortitude, backstabber, you move at a gorillion move speed and from there you just buy whatever you want.
Kino time
>>540589243>fortitude buyers in my /dlg/
>>540589243nigga u are full of shit drifter is hard to build for cause of his hybrid melee gun spirit
>>540589621Your gun damage buffs your melee, you don't need to buy melee items, you just use it for procs, dingaling.
>>540578283Statlocker calls you out on your bullshit. The only item that is remotely good is cold front and its upgrade and even then there are way better weapon and vitality options at 1600 and 6400 souls
>>540589246sex status?
>>540589940Non-existent
>>540589940gay only
>>540590214this displeases the doorman>>540590225this pleases the doorman
can't believe pocket dumped mina because he refused to date a chink
Bebop players are so fucking funny when they start trolling, I wish more characters in vidya could just fucking turncoat like that (thank God he wasn't on my team)
>It's a cheater forgets to shoot buildings episode
>finally found a guide worth keeping>yt-dlp is not workingjoos
K9sbruce (a billy spammer) seems like the kind of guy who would post here. Where you at my schizo friend
how many matches does it take before i start feeling like i'm actually doing things that impact the match positively or negatively because it honestly just feels like things are happening at random and i just happen to be there
>>540590910why didnt you commend them for the carry sir
do you lose bats for blinking during mina ult?outside of the ones you lose for flicking to the side ofc
>>540591378You don't lose bats at all. It also has infinite scaling.
Wanted to test out my new mouse settings. Hard to tell, but my aim might be a bit better now. Still getting used to using my whole arm for this.
>>540591606i don't mean losing the permanent bats, that would be a retarded mechanici meant are you losing out on damage output by having the ult channel and blinking so you aren't shooting out any bats for the durationor does it just delay shooting out all 75 + 40 bats i've got
When you're against a Shiv and Infernus I feel like there is 0 you can unironically especially once Infernus gets ricochet, just constantly eating shit then Shiv can clean up. Fuck this game.
>>540591771Ah, well the ult timer pauses during your teleports, so you don't lose out on the bats sent.
>>540592120interdasting
>>540546925>>540581539European hours inhouse:F9T8C
>>540591262we lost so no comment )))
>doorman ults you as abrams>you skilled your ult to be unstoppable>free set up for a teamwide stun from the enemy doormanFinally a viable way to use this ability and it needs a griefer on the enemy team.
>>540592980Only time I've ever gotten good use out of Abrams ultimate is by having a decent lash on my team slam a lot of players together
>>540592920we're at work dude
>>540593165>Europeans>Working on a Saturday
>>540593165it's saturday
>>540591771You lose bats by flicking out of your target. I've found that the longer you successfully track somebody (e.i; your bats don't immediately eat shit after pressing 4) the higher the chances your bats will connect with your target at odd angles.
>caturday>no cat heroicefraud.............
>>540593328CALICO
THE SPIRIT URN IN READY TO BE CLAIMED
>>540549968mo is mute it's your subconsciousness
>>540592920still open?
>>540549968That's Krill saying "Maul 'em"
>13k playersShut it down
>>540593842Yeah literally only 1 person has joined since that post
AYE WON LIE AYDUNNO WHAD DAT DOES BUT MY KID SEZ ALL DA MYSTICS ARE BUYIN IT
>>540593929lmao ok launching the game, was eating
>>540593848in my head he still says "moron"
>>540593934 My friend, survival is paramount!
>>540563627The reason everyone notices it first is because she is a fucking alien
>>540593934where's my keychain you fucking italian cunt
>>540594176exquisite..........................isn't it.......................................
>>540540617You could do this for ivy tooBase: 13.6bps47% fire rate before hitting no cdr cap109% fire rate before hitting 30% cdr capCapacitor already gives 8%, so its 39% and 101% respectively
>>540594437Cool. So just Capacitor, Burst Fire and Cultist Sacrifice should be enough to guarantee max capacitor DPS without CDR.
>>540592920Man it’s 1pm GMT, what you thinking? I’ll join but don’t expect it to fill. Do it again later in like 6 hours
>>540594706People in the last thread (and one in this thread) were asking for a non-degen hours inhouse
>>540594706yeah it's the start of the afternoon. Normal hour, not late
why is bola a skillshot when telekinesis is auto target
>>540591697Looks like having the most souls doesn't save you from being a retard.
>>540594989You are asking the wrong questions when other bullshit like paradox swap exists. You should be asking why icefraud and yoshitard are in charge.
why do these niggers even queue. 37 minutes and involved in 7 kills. sure is a fucking mystery why we lost!!!
>>540595264para is a slow skillshot
make hyperbeam do triple it's current damage with no objective damage reduction but make it's cooldown dynamo tiershit is just regular beam even at full build
>>540595264wow this is a corrupted gif alright here's a fixed version
>>540595309>para is a slow skillshotWhich makes no sense, her inspiration in dota is vengeful spirit and hers is not only instant but targeted. If all the other characters were like paradox it wouldn't be an issue, but you have paradox where her kit is amazingly synergistic to the point yoshitard had to nerf her into being a retarded relative of gaytalon and beepnigger. So she used to get great value out of comboing her stuff, now the value she gets for comboing amounts to maybe 1 skill and a half of other characters with self-contained skills that do not synergize, in this case: telekinesis, wraith.
>>540590751But he's a chink too
>>540587106if my shiv was maxxing bloodletting first i'd assume i'm in a state-mandated loss match
>>540595381It's advantage is having infinite range, stop using it like it's nigfernus ult and you'll do fine.
>>540595570cant tell the difference
>>540595294they got 7 kills though
>>540595720>its another deadlocker that chooses +1dmg over +50% hpI have seen this episode before
>>540590751I wouldnt marry a chink either
>>540595743mina ult just beats it in every way outside of not being ruined by minion waves
>>540590751They're korean actuallyPockets probably a hapa tho considering his dad is evil (white)
>>540595917nigga your damage is how you stay alive, heal and kill people before they kill you. you even said yourself that the most successful build was the one where you max your 3 dead-last.but go ahead and grief your teammates, you're the exact agent yoshi is looking for
>>540596052Mina ult might still be somewhat overtuned and will likely be nerfed to some extent, but bebop isn't just his ult. If parashit had to be gutted because she had a shittier version of beepnigger hook then obviously he will be gutted too.
>>540596052>mina ult silences>bebop ult does nothingthey should make it disable stamina usage
>>540593913lol is it really that bad already? I was wondering why I got the same guy 3 games in a row. Dead fucking game.
>Had the invisible bug happen to me again>Lose it because my bebop is a retarded piece of shit and pulls an infernus into the teamWe could've won, but noo, I always just have to have one fucking nigger that can't think for a fucking second. It doesn't help that these fucking subhumans I am forced to play with don't even speak english.
>>540596184My bad i cant read u right, the base 3 is good enough, clear doesnt matter You should buy more vit tho
>>540596336its 24k
>>540593913dotachads are already bored, we're going back home for our new hero
WWYD if this was your Talon's build
>>540596667lol sure
>>540596818Ive already accepted my designated loss upon seeing a talon on my team
>>540596962don't check the player numbers, chuddie
Only just now realized Affliction counts for spirit lifesteal and infuser
>>540597173the player numbers are not reflective of my queue times, which are 2x longer in dota for the same dogshit teammatesheld up entirely by russians
>>540596410>wah I couldn't bug abuse for a free win
>>540597271It does not
>>540595915that's awful for hyper late game
>>540596410>Noooo why did you redeem saar I need to cheat to win
>>540597895It does, but doesnt work for mystic regen
>>540596410faggot
matchmaking getting more and more annoying as the days go by
>>540598159just rank up bro lmao its not that hardThe matches are better past initiate
Please give me an invite, DotA is ruining my soul. Friend Code 103205774
>>540598219>rank up bro>just luck out and get the smurfs on your team and the russians on the other
>>540598340This game will too.
>>540540540ГДE TЫ BЗЯЛ ЭTУ ПИКЧУ, ПCИHA?
>lead my team to victory on Victor >but enemy team had a feeder to leaver (Seven) so it was a bit hollow>gg and apologise for their leaver and commend them for staying>their double digit death Shiv “You so bad”Why is sportsmanship such a rarity in this game?
>>540598340done
>>540598110Since when? Spirit Lifesteal should not work on Affliction
>>540598275they're not defending a bebop they're mocking you for trying to bug abuse and still losing
>>540598601It was literally the only way to win that game.
>>540598574idk but theres a lot of nasty people
is it me or a loss affects your rank a lot more than a win
game issa alpha, nothing matters, you "people" trying to be "pros" and end up just being homosexuals you should be autistically playing your favorite character and trying to win with fun builds instead of chasing ranks and mmr, you'll do that when the game comes out in 2057
calico is ugly but damn is she fun
This was a fucked match. I got only 300 objective damage as McGinnis because Abrams and Haze (usually Abrams) kept killing before I could reach them. This my 5th loss in a row now.
>>540599492There was a player that would just suicide mcginnis into towers repeatedly, 60%winrateYoshi had to nerf them several times
yoshi and his team legit needs to be fucking murdered for creating matchmaking this fucking bad. I thought august was bad. holy fucking shit.
>>540598597Dunno, just tested it
>>540599438I'm on the maximum volume of copium they can pump into me with Calico. She looks like an angry black chud womanlet but she's also a hero labs leftover with a reused Haze head. Holiday also looks like shit for the same reason. They will fix her in the future bro trust the plan invest in black queen coin today.
Okay so I’m finding I’m really liking Viscous now that I'm building for his 3 instead of his 1, but I still have no idea what I'm meant to be using his ult for besides an escape.
>>540600023Goo ball stuns. Get warp stone and/or phantom strike. Usually leads to a kill if the fight is in your favor.
>>540599974holiday's face is very cute tho
>>540599974They don't have the same head, autist
There any better Paige builds out there besides Deathy's? Looking for support mostly but I’ll take a dps one as well.
>>540540475Well yeah but apples and oranges.
>>540600382I know a slightly tweaked asset when I see one. If they're lazy enough to have Viscous and Kelvin share the same skeleton for animations and gun models they're lazy enough to tweak an existing hero's head to make a quick new one.
>>540559998queued into an alchemist lobby this morningwhat in the fuck is going on
>>540600559What part about work in progress don't you seem to understand.
I only play carries, I don't care, I'm not going to roam and gank, the game doesn't have good low cd stunners
>>540600627...That's exactly my point, are you even reading?
What’s the target priority on the extra ally barriers with maxed Paige S2?
>>540600792closest
>>5405997597 more months until the next big updatematch making fix is on the backest of burners
>>540600792largest penis to smallest
At first glance I thought paiges ult global range would be great but you are always with the team anyways so kinda pointless
>>540600023bowl through a teamfight to panic and confuse the enemy
Alright after looking more into it based on what le pros are doing, the best way to make shiv work now and to make spirit on him in general is spirit sap/silence wave + spirit snatch. The swing in power is immense. In a control environment, where shiv has 10k in boons and 5 standard spirit items (enchanters, healbane, mystic shot, improved spirt, extra charge) I would add cold front (not using it's effect) as the "control" item then compare to the sapActivating sap adds what you would expect, roughly 12% extra damage. While the actual damage doesn't do as much damage as activating cold front spirit sap makes up for it by being a long debuff that stacks well with multiple knives on one enemy and vs spirit heavy enemies, reducing their spirit power can NOT be understatedNow spirit snatch, again using the same setup but the control item being knockdownSpirit snatch ends up giving you a 25% extra boost in damage to your spirit abilities and that is NOT counting the bonus spirit you do from the melee itself. This item is just too good for shiv. It's a good burst, a massive damage boost to your spirit abilities, it gives you spirit armor and steals theirs so in team fights your teammates deal more spirit too them too AND something very important is that melee attacks actually fill a ton of shivs rage, spirit snatch alone fills shivs rage to about 30% Okay that's cool and all but what about hard committing to spirit? What about boundless spirit (4800 to upgrade from improved spirit) vs Sap + Snatch (also 4800 value)? Well at the baseline level, boundless spirit does LESS damage than the snatch stats from before, but like only a little bitSo compared to sap+snatch, they deal 15%~ more damage than committing to boundless. SAD!Shiv actually feels pretty good with this new setup but the worst thing about doing this build is that the lack of cold front TRULY makes shiv horrible at farming, playing from behind is grueling
>watching a game>guy goes to melee a buff>melee just phases through itkek I thought that was just me, this fucking game.
>>540540540invisible man
>>540601149happened to me a lot on abrams and gets me killed or lets my kill escape. fucked up alpha we're playing
>>540601125In general, a melee conditional will be stronger because you have to risk more positionally Its the same with active items, on average they do more than similarly priced passive alternative because its rewarding you for the risk of another input you can flub
>>540601125build id?
>>540601125shiv knife build is the play, decay for keeping and building rage
I have never seen more of a matchmaking moment, first game we got hard raped in lane, pushed into our walker and took it early, and then Paradox and Paige literally never left lane constantly pushing for our guardians. Total stomp.Second game same shit happened except it was my turn doing the raping, me and Viscous quite literally did the same exact shit they did, we stomped them in lane, took walker early, then were just pushing up to their guardians and bullying them constantly. What the fuck man.
I'm just not having a good time, man. I'm now back in Initiate.
It clicked for me.
>>540603630AND NEVER COME BACK!!!
Stop crying about the matchmaking. The devs dont make any money creating this game.
What does your queue roster say about you?
Someone make a new thread
>>540603969Statlocker is unrelizable. It says that I'm Initiate 1, but Tracklock says that I'm Seeker 2. which is closer to where I actually play.
I enjoy being an annoying cunt. Who do I play?
>>540604664mina
>>540604664MiguGuineness; Pocket; Mina
>>540604395the devs are quite literally paid to develop this game retard-kun. they do make money. and if you think valve of all companies in need of a cash injection to make matchmaking not dog shit you're a downs patient.
>>540604423abrams 1st, lash or ivy 2nd depending on how much i want to have fun and how much i want to win, respectively.third is irrelevant, i'm never getting them. i mostly just want to play abrams or ivy.if spellbreaker and counterspell and knockdown didn't exist, i'd play lash more, but it's too much trouble. i prefer heroes that aren't countered easily and i enjoy winning.i might start playing billy
>>540540364What's the * on "Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*" all about
*throws kudzu on your guardian shop+
>>540604905NO NO NO NOT 30 DAMAGE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>540605039Why do people insist on downplaying Kudzu? Is it gunvy agenda?
the heroes for this game are so uninspired and boring in comparison to dota, and the thing is that this game blatantly copies skills from dota to use in it's heroes, but everything feels disgruntled and nothing fits together, I think the item pool is too small and it doesn't allow people to go wild on buffing an aspect of their hero and playing off of that, scaling your carry is also terrible because of not having stats itens you just don't get to achieve critical mass and really be the character your team plays around to winthe game is very incomplete it's what I'm saying
>>540605039This, but for Backstabber (85 damage).
>>540605039this is proof ivy deserves buffs btw
>>540604580I mean I use it strictly for the stats, you shouldn't really care about the rank estimate. The stuff it tracks is crazy and interesting to read especially comparing yourself against the community. I will say though whatever system it uses to estimate rank is probably better than the actual ranked system in Deadlock though. Basically rank and estimations just don't matter if you want to improve you don't focus on that shit anyways and if you play for fun you shouldn't care.
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>>540604768steam prints money for them
>>540604664Seven or ult Warden if you want to annoy people by being OP cancerMcginnis if you want to annoy people by being a stubborn faggot that constantly pushes lane and keeps someone babysitting the entire game.Doorman if you want to single someone out and bully the fuck out of them (specially echo shard Doorman).Veil walker Bebop if you want to be an all around annoying faggot.And finally the most utter cringe and cancerous hero of all: melee Viscous. You have to actually be decent at the game to be really fucking annoying on him but he genuinely might be the most frustrating and bullshit hero to go against when he's running melee, only reason it isn't bitched about much is because 99% of players can't pull it off and people just go against retarded Viscous players (like support for example)
>>540604768That's nice dear. But the fact is still there, they do not make any money from creating this game.
>>540605146no seriously buy extra stamina and you've hard countered ivy kudzu. they nerfed damage by 40% and pancaked the AOE so it has no vertical application whatsoever.