Tool Spam EditionStore links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomGame Save Analyzer / Tacker:https://silksong-completionist.com/Previous Thread>>540357764
>>540561202I confused this for the /v/ thread and was about to call the OP rather brazen.
>>540561202Hand to God I beat the act 3 final boss and read all the little lore things you can find and I believe silksong is a prequel. Genuinely don't know why everyone thinks it's a sequel just because [The knight shows up at the end and doesn't even have full control over the void mind you cause it still tries to fucking kill hornet and it's more holding it back then controlling it]
>>540564000Ah shit I fucked the spoiler how do you do it again? Can I edit this?
>>540564000>>540564123you're retarded
>Seven Choristors, nine Envoys lost to a 1/8 part weaver who was "frail with age"Is the citadel just massively incompetent?
>>540564000>I have already been the guardian of one fallen kingdom. That role I will never play again. As long as I have stregnth, I will not let this Kingdom fall. also ur dumb
>>540564123Check the box on your post.At the bottom right of the page is a delete button.
>*autistically screeches in you're thread*
>>540565151SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP AHHHHHHHHHH
ToT
>>540564874She was but then went back and saw the hk protag and thought he was gonna make things worse
>can't hold charge and scuttlebrace at the same timeInto the fucking trash this piece of shit goes
>>540564778who knows, maybe they lost them during the journey itself. also, weavers are still powerful while debuffed like widow.
>>540565974as well, they probably had a community with them
>>540564000She literally tells Lace she helped bring down a god
>>540561202Yuri gameYuri generalLesbian communityFeminist devs
>>540567387Maybe Hornet's life is just full of bringing down gods. God forbid a girl has a hobby.
>>540568329>>540567387>>540561202can one of you make a *.png of Hornet's pose when she is challenging one of the Gods? When she screams "ESCARAMA!". Should be a good template to put her agaisn't other Gods in other games (and RL.)
>>540564000There's going against the grain and then there's escaping reality through a portal of pure delusion.
>>540567387Once again she says in her experience God's can fall and this could just be about pale king.>>540569456Seethe
>>540564000What the hell are you talking about man. How did you even manage to reach this sort of mental gymnastics
>>540568059No. Metroidvania game. Get your woke shit out of my entertainment.
>>540570703>SeetheNow you're asking too much. I just wanted to give you your government mandated (You) and this is how you treat me? The gall...
imma just need to rant about bilewater and the runback to the boss there for a bit, even with the secret bench. the randomness of the enemy spawns is infuriating. flies keep respawning right in the jump paths? tough tiddies. moss niggas spawn on both sides of you and cover the screen from floor to celling in exploding darts? tough tiddies. also this is true for the entire game, but the enemies rely way too much on just jumping into you and doing contact damage.
>>540564000It's true that it is somewhat ambiguous some of the time, but you cannot ignore the fact that Hornet speaks of her duty in Hallownest (which is what she MUST be speaking of when she refers to being steward to a dying kingdom, or else we're just talking about arbitrary possibilities and this argument cannot be resolved) in the past tense and with no resolve to return to it. Certainly, there are an infinite number of arbitrary contrivances that could make it so that Hornet was referring to something else, but discussing these infinite possibilities would be an exercise in pointlessness.
>>540572849a pilgrim as devout as sherma would never betray his asceticism in this way...
whats the point of using anything but the wanderers crest
Bilewater is unirinonically the best area in the game. It reminds me of Dark Souls Blighttown.
>>540531087I visited Hunter's March right after Bone Bottom, The Marrows, Wormways, Deep Docks, before I had any movement upgrades. Shakra never showed up.
>>540572465>contact damage.I feel like i-frames are significantly reduced from Hollow Knight, which means that it is very easy to take 4 masks of damage in 1 second in Silksong. Get hit by boss attack and take 2 masks of damage --> i-frame immediately wears off and you take another 2 from touching the boss.
>>540573519HK had Shade Cloak, there's no equivalent in Silksong.>But Sharpdart Costs Silk, also the wind-up is too goddamn long. Shade Cloak had zero wing-up.>But Cross StitchEquivalent to parrying, different thing entirely>But Clawline No penetration, continuous Silk drain, Hornet can be damaged while doing this or after. Not the case with Shade Cloak
>>540573984It's kind of funny how people go "oh but you get Shade Cloak so late into HK by time you get it, you're already used to how the dash usually works"And then the first week of Silksong was people complaining about how there's nothing like the Shade CloakEven though you got that ability late, it's super valuable
>its been a month and there hasnt been any good OCThis site is washed
>>540574997define "good"
>>540574997activity across all of 4chins is trending down. oldheads are aging out and why would zoomers start posting here?
>>540575039Not bad
>>540575070as a zoomer that posts here imageboards and forums are basically the only way to actually conversate online since social media is all about attention farming
>>540573984>continuous Silk drainI wish Clawline did temporary Silk drain, similar to how void silk corruption while having everbloom works. The amount of times where I had enough Silk for a heal, used Clawline once, and I could no longer heal was so frustrating I minimized Clawline use in battles to almost zero.
>>540564874Timeline supports both. Hallownest was falling already with Pale King alive. The time elapsed between Void snatching Pale King's soul and start of HK proper is impossible to say. It could be hundreds of years.
>>540576149>Void snatching Pale King's soulWhy you're treating your headcanon like it's a confirmed continuity?
>>540575238Dark sun Gwendolyn feminization treatment with the hollow knight??? Oh my sweet lord
>>540576051You get silk back on a clawline hit
>>540573153I do not want to play on easy mode. We've already been over this
>>540576219I think thats supposed to be a defeated and bound Hornet but your idea slaps too so follow your own imagination.
>>540565151>*rape baby noises*
>>540576208Entire castle sinks into the floor, literally nothing left of his primary domain from which he ruled, all his constructs are dead and so on. The image representing the Pale King in the mind of his automaton subordinate is just a withered husk on a throne. He also >played around too much with void, a power beyond his mastery of the material >threw away his bloodline into the void at unfathomable scale, binding his bloodline to that eldritch force >put his castle right on top where void was strongest Void came collecting a debt. Its not like people would see Cthulhu doing the same as weird or wrong. Pale King was powerful, but still ultimately seeking to control a power that was greater than him.
just beat the game, this shit is so assImagine if in hollow knight, when you dream nail the hollow knight and enter the final arena, instead of the sun turning into the final boss and it being super cool, you literally just fight black hornet with all her moves and stuff recycled from the other two fights; i genuinely laughed
Which was harder, the White Palace or the Ascent to the Surface?
>>540576572Nice theory, but that's just your personal theory, nothing more. Pale King's fate is unknown.
>>540565151This thing was inside Hornet and (You) will never be...
>>540576585Ascent had harder platforming, but was also more forgiving. There were respawning enemies to farm if you had to heal up after a fail, unlike White Palace.
>>540576585Both can be progressed through via with infinite heal.
>>540576585Surface ascent was piss easy, get real.
>>540576905Silksong is piss easy. There's nothing in it as hard as lategame Hollow Knight.
>>540576905I heard your screeching during ascent, no need to pretend.
>>540576669NTA but his room being filled with lingering Void and the one mushroom thing hinting that he foresaw his own demise really pushes the idea that he died. I cant imagine he just fucked off from within the white palace.
>>540576950Act 1 is pretty hard. At least pre-patch one, I never played nerfed version of Act 1.
>>540577026He likely died, yes. We don't know how, tho.
>>540576490Why does everything have to be a rape allegory to y'all? Parasites exist, you know. Sometimes the curtains really are just blue.
>>540577171Hornet was impregnated against her will, thats why she tries to get an abortion.
>>540577224>women writing drama
>people still think void follows the laws of causality and time in a linear fashionThe Knight can show up in the past as a void form monster, easy Pale King will at one point in time grant intelligence to the Void by dumping a school class of his own children into it, therefore the Void will naturally grow to have an interest in his kingdom and descendants.
>>540577460Prooflink of void being acasual?
>>540577224And this is why lefties shouldn't be in charge of games. Because of what cooks in your head.
>>540577460So Hornet went through the entire adventure, went "that was weird" and walked back to Hallownest to stand guard some more?
>>540577273>>540577632Guys I'm sorry I offended you but the witch crest line is clearly Hornet getting impregnated against her will. Its okay, because the entire game is woke feminist redditslop.
>>540577171>Parasites exist, you knowWell, yes, there's plenty of tentacle parasites in hentai. The question is, did it penetrate her asshole into her guts, or her pussy into her womb.
How many of her siblings did Hornet kill? It's at least one
>>540577774Had it been a man what did it, i might agree. Had she had a man in her life, I might agree on purely thematic terms that a pregnancy was used this way. But the story thus far is that Hornet is engaging in a battle against foes that keep injecting people with stuff, different alien substances keep filling the hollow spaces of these bugs. Insects and parasites and magic silk and cogs and so on. You can call it a "dark pregnancy" if you like. Similar to the twisted Alien seeding of the face hugger from the Ridley Scott 1974 movie. Here, it's not a straight pregnancy allegory. It's something alien and foreign that nonetheless uses pregnancy imagery to evoke fear and disgust. People get these things mixed up all the time, because most normies are mentally hostile to pregnancy as a concept. >"if I become pregnant I'll abort it!!" type thing. Because humans cannot be colonized by a destructive, evil and alien force in the way that Aliens do, comparing the two simply comes across as unhinged. Same thing here. Hornet does not become pregnant through sex with a peer.
>>540578509You're being baited my friend.
>>540578509>Had she had a man in her life???Silksong revolves entirely around women. We dont even know if the child had a father. The point is Greyroot inserts it into Hornet.
>>540577689Could be any reason. Hornet being granted a sense of purpose from saving all those people and receiving portents from the void might cause her to return to her accursed home. Coming to terms with all those fucked things,Like her father, several mothers all being cursed, dying or dead and all their works laid to ruin.
>>540578650>goes throuth the entire adventure>says that life, even artificial life, is precious>saved by a sibling>goes back to killing Siblings in HallownestNah I dont buy it, its a sequel.
>>540576585Two dashes + float make all platforming easy.
>>540578552I'm not being baited. I'm simply speaking the truth. That he allows me to do so through deceit and always-online bait games is a win on my part. >>540578628Agree. But pregnancy is achieved by copulation between man and woman. Hollow Knight knows about sex. Sex plays a role- Hornet is born through union between God-king and Weaver. The Knight and all the siblings are soulless by comparison, by design. Homunculus type creations. If Silksong wanted the parasite scene to carry pregnancy allegories, a man would be present at least to represent the masculine part of the union. Prometheus, a movie where the woman protagonist more overtly becomes infected by a child-parasite (that really relays the abortion imagery on thick), features a clear man-woman relationship. One that cannot produce a child. Here the allegory for child-abortion-man/woman is more clear. Silksong lacks all these essential elements.
>>540578913> But pregnancy is achieved by copulation between man and womanThis is a world of bugs and we have no idea how beings like Greyroot or the child even reproduce. Going off the cursed ending it didnt need a male at all to be born.
>>540578062Her neck. The neck was twisted in the cutscene to transfer the bud.
The other way the "abortion" thing doesn't sell. Is because the bud is already born when Hornet picks it up. A living baby.
>>540579106Parasites are different. Hornet was born through union between man and woman.If anything, silksong shows the depravity of the very land when it is scoured of men. They become cursed, just like any land would if women is missing from it. Sick, neurotic and damaged, withering away. Hornet, in any case, did not receive an abortion. Not even in a thematic sense. She was colonized by a foreign bug through strange and violent means.
>>540579462Its weird that you already admitted Alien had a rape allegory when it undoes your entire argument that it requires a man/woman - the Alien is born from a man.Anyways the quest is about Hornet being impregnated against her will and going to a shady doctor to remove it. Its 100% evocative of an abortion.
>>540579462>If anything, silksong shows the depravity of the very land when it is scoured of menLorelet, the men werent scoured from the land. The Weavers are an uplifted race entirely composed of women. If anything Pharloom is drawing more men in via pilgrimage. Very strange post.
I would buy into the "parasite not fetus" explanation if the game wasn't already full of blatant progressive propaganda.
Today I think I will finish off a couple courier runs, earn some rosaries, then buy out a few vendors to see what I'm missing. Along the way I may also try to pick up some seared organs to try and get those out the way as I don't normally use Flintslate.
>>540579702I liked using la bomba for the seared organs
>>540579462>Hornet, in any case, did not receive an abortionHornet absorbed the parasite and made it into her own power. Hornet now have tentacles that she fully controls and can penetrate others to suck their juices.
>>540579664It is?
>>540579461Yeah. Its a parasite. Female wasps become fertilized before inserting their eggs in other arthropods.
>>540579654Pharloom is a piece of shit land precisely because there are no male weaver, and hence the men died. Totally deranged female God-Empress simply doesn't work as a concept. >>540579850Good yes, correct. She did not receive "an abortion" the way a woman in the US would receive an abortion.
>>540580029>>>/news/ is that way, my dude. Here we discuss the game.
>>540580029>Pharloom is a piece of shit land precisely because there are no male weaverLorelet, the decline of the Citadel was overseen by the Conductors (all the ones in lore are male), the Vaultkeepers (all the ones in lore are male), and the Architects (robotic servants chained to a directive to serve). You are overestimating yourself.
>>540580119Kindly fuck off
>>540580119They were ruling pre-Haunting which was caused by GMS (female).
Hornet X Lace unironically saved this game art for the foreseeable future.
>>540580178Why, I'm the one who played the game and knows what I'm talking about
>>540580228>women rule a successful kingdom>men take over and run it into the groundMakes you think...
>>540580335That's literally the opposite of what happened.
A somewhat funny continuity error I had was that I saw Nuu examining the corpse of the first Great Conchfly and spoke to her there. But then the next time I was at Greymoor I went upstairs to see her and she said that she was thinking about venturing out for the first time herself, to see these creatures for real.Well I already SAW you out there in the arse end of nowhere Nuu! I'm not sure what would have caused this. Maybe she says that she's thinking of venturing out when you complete the quest to document 100 creatures but by then I'd already triggered the event for her to appear in the Great Conchfly arena and ended up there again before I bothered to visit her room above the bar in Greymoor. Still, you would think they could hold back the Conchfly corpse interaction until she's delivered the line in the bar about venturing out into the wild.
>>540580380Anon who do you think was running the Citadel while GMS was asleep and the weavers were fled?
>>540580242"Media literacy" is just a way to shut down any opposing opinion.
>>540580402She always say that, Anon
>>540580418Pharloom was prosperous before GMS woke up and ruined it.
>>540580424I didnt mention media literacy...you're the one who brought it up lol. What are you talking about dude?
>>540580460I don't get it though? Maybe I'm remembering the line wrong or misremembering where/when she said it but I'm sure the line she said implied she was thinking about heading out for the first time but by then I know for a fact I'd already seen her at Blasted Steps.
>>540579894Always has been
do we really have nothing better to do in this thread than have retarded bait fights at 2 am
>>540580652that's the fate of all generals
>>540580418they just put Loam on the treadmill and the rest was all automated
>>540580418>Ruling class and ruler all fuck up and leave everything a mess >Plebs try to unfuck the situation, have no priors and make a terrible job of it >blame the plebs for being plebs Its *always* the fault of the nobility and the king/queen.
>>5405805821) She says she's thinking of heading out2) You see that Halfway Home's top room is empty3) You see her out in the world4) You see her in Halfway home again, she says she's thinking of heading outIt's just her idle text. Happens 100% of the time.
>>540580652Its weekend 4chan, prime incel hours
>>540580652Retarded nigger doesn't know what timezones are or that not everybody has to wake up early to work at McDonalds like he doesShocking
So did the Citadel start kidnapping foreign Weavers before or after the Haunting startedPrior I could see them doing it out of desperation for more SilkAfter it was GMS directing them to bring her "daughters" home
HK and SS are pretty fun games if you ignore all the wokeslop and the occassional gauntlet>>540580778This is one of those things I feel aren't very clear, what other reason GMS could have for hunting other weavers? and what happened to the full weavers from Hallownest?
>>540580778There's no reason why Haunted would leave written notes, so they set off for Hornet before GMS even woke up?.. But Hornet says her assailants were controlled by one mastermind, so GMS woke up while they were on the way?.. I can't make heads or tails of how Haunting works.
>>540580876>and what happened to the full weavers from Hallownest?They died from the infection or fled into the wastes.Also lol, if you get offended at HK games being woke you must be fragile as fuck.
>>540580876>and what happened to the full weavers from Hallownest?They died from old age. Birth rate too low to maintain proper population>>540580927Fuck off master baiter, HK/Silksong is not "woke". I've seen real woke games, they're completely unplayable due to game preaching you and arguing with strawmen, planting pride flags everywhere, and being generally obnoxious. That's not the case for HK/Silksong.
>>540580720Ah right so she's just saying she's thinking of heading out [again] in a casual way, she's not actually saying that she's lived her entire life in that room and has now finally mustered the courage to leave. Makes sense.
>>540581102The guy I responded to was the one calling it woke you doofus>>540580876
>>540580876>and what happened to the full weavers from Hallownest?I feel like they got there, got captured, tortured for information (which is how they learned about Hornet) and used up for their Silk.They left for Pharloom a long time ago (multiple bug lifetimes if we assume Hornet out-aged her former mates instead of them dying young) when the Infection returned for a second time, so it'd make sense there was no trace of them when Hornet reaches Pharloom.But it might be a neat pattern of DLC to have Hornet find a trace of them somewhere.Though it might just a lore retcon, like how Herrah was of a "common" caste in HK in comparison to her husband
Speaking of >>>>"le woke" and illiteracy, this game is quite literally UBER woke, yet so many anons fail to get it; i'm not pro or against it btw, it's just that it's so blatant, it's hilarious how the people against it blind themselves to it.
>no art>dogshit discussionThese threads arent gonna last until the dlc...
>>540580927>>540581102>>540581169>getting this worked up by me calling it wokelmao, talk about fragile
>>540581372>"I like the game so it cant be woke"Tale as old as time. Hornet totally fits as a Mary Sue protagonist too.
>>540581372>t. c/u/ck>>540581380What is there to talk about? Everyone has pretty much beaten the game already, the lack of art is unusual though
>>540581358>I feel like they got there, got captured, tortured for information (which is how they learned about Hornet) and used up for their Silk.From the Cradle records, Hornet was senses by her silk. The only weaver they captured was Widow and she was from a different kingdom.
>>540580927>"they are good games if you ignore the slop">"HURR DURR YOU GOT OFFENDED, FRAGILE MUCH?"lol
>>540581650Triggered
>>540581541I feel like they captured a lot of Weavers, given how many cages we seeThere was that 1/8th Weaver they captured as well
>>540581681same thing
>>540581446She receives plenty of indignities, needs to pay for entry everywhere. Nickle and dimed, doing fetch quests and struggles a lot. If people gave you shit for free and there always being helpful people to assist you free of charge, and enemies being weak and also really impressed with Hornet all the time then yeah she might be a Mary Sue Not right now though. Not every capable female protagonist falls into this category, dumbass
>>540581686They could have captured more in the past but they seem long dead since Widow is the only one we encounter. Maybe they'll explore it more in dlc.
I think Team Cherry didn't think the lore of the game through
>>540581828Its certainly possible but these threads have shown me that there are some real morons here.
>>540581871Listen, Pale King founded Hallownest and in this thread he's a hero!
>>540581871>these threads have shown me that there are some real morons here.This.
>>540581962Hallownest crumbled into dust, meanwhile Pharloom can rebuild...GMS won...
>choirs fetch hornet to pharloom for some reason>her silk? for being a weaver? i'unno>lace fights hornet because... erm...
>>540582069Lace was afraid GMS would make Hornet her adoptive daughter or some shit.
>>540582069>These are the kind of people that criticize the lore
>>540582069>lace fights hornet because... erm...You might be braindeadGood lord these threads have some dummies.
>Radiance is dead>White Lady is alive>Hollow Knight is probably alive>Dung Defender is alive>Mantises resisted the infectionPale King WON
>>540582167>>540582171Your schizo fanspiction isn't lore
>>540582367What was your favorite part of Silksong?
>>540582421Cogwork CoreThe architects melody was easily the best of the three
>>540582281Hallownest will survive. its main defender is alive. People will gradually return to settle there once the word is out.
>>540582367Why do you think Lace attacked Hornet?
>>540582749We don't really know, that's what the original post is questioning
3rd Steel Soul run that got to Wings, wish me luck bros. Going to prioritize getting to 7 masks first before even stepping foot in Hunter's March for Fractured Mask.
>>540583092But we do know.
