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I like you, Die! Edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.png

>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
https://pastebin.com/NEvHHATe
https://monkposter.github.io/community.html

Previous: >>540408587

>Thread Question
What is your least favorite companion archetype?
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My favorite CRPG is Baldur's Gate 3
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>>540654276
>What is your least favorite companion archetype?
The designated dudebro, doesn't stand out in any way, just there, inoffensive like white bread
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>>540654276
>What is your least favorite companion archetype?
female companions who owe the protagonist sex but don't deliver, ie KOTOR 2
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The rebel/for the masses companion in a story where it's not a key theme (aka, the game is not about toppling an empire that took over)
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How much longer until solasta 2?
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>go to a party
>fight a god
Is Legend the anime path?
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>>540654276
>What is your least favorite companion archetype?
The "Ain’t I cute?"
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>>540654276
>What is your least favorite companion archetype?
obvious waifubait
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>>540654276
>What is your least favorite companion archetype?
moeblob waifubait
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>>540632881
>She has a sex party on her ship while dating you
This doesn't really count because it's part of Cassia's quest and isn't programmed to react to whether or not she's dating you
>talks about how she loved her ex bf who is now an enemy in her questline
Yeah this was a bit cucky
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Pst, hey, you, yes you, anon. Come over here I need to tell you something. It's a secret Jimmy rules!
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>>540659031
I always read that as her trying to get me to kill that dude
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>>540659031
KWAB. You guys actually romanced this whore?
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>>540659405
she's built for crimelord so yeah
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>>540657534
>Fucking retard shows up to the party for crusade soldiers when he's done zero fighting
Get out
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>>540659308
You can think whatever makes you happy, shereen
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I'll stick with my eldar waifu. She might not put out for me, but at least she hasn't put out for anyone else ever.
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>the helmet that reduces AP costs is all the way in act 4
Why even bother adding it at that point? Melta weapons suck dick and need the help way earlier.
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>>540659896
Why are meltars so bad
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Being a cuckschizo is somehow more cucked than actually getting cucked
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>>540660003
>shit range
>low damage
>high armor pen which is worthless
>higher AP cost
You are always better off using a flamer or shotgun. Its probably the worst weapon type in the game.
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>>540654276
Paladins
Seelah sucks
Heinrix sucks
Casavir sucks
Pallegina, who should suck, does not
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>>540659846
Its crazy how much shit she puts you through without any sort of payoff.
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*sits in my cuck chair and watches cuckschizos fuck my general*
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imagine darven but his writer threw owlcat another six digits for a cutscene where he fucks the pc's love interest
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>>540661223
>Are you sure?
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>>540659501
crime lord golddigs with fish girl
he has zero reason to go for a poor gypsy
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>>540661030
I preferred the on-demand mutual meditation sessions to the comical fade-to-black sex scenes that you'd get with the other girls as a reward for beating their romance
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>>540661030
Romance being a relationship you grind to get a single line implying your character fucked is why the romance in these games is so fucking shit
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>>540662271
Jae isn't poor
She has a huge network and gives you 2 PF just for letting her tag along.
Banging Cassia is a ticket to getting bogged down in navis house politics, the crime lord doesn't need that kind of heat when he's trying to run a semi-legal business.
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>>540662567
Romance should lead to tangible stat benefits and extra heroic abilities when your sweetie is in a party with you, which gradually become more substantial as it progresses.
Eg Yrlikek could learn to use human rifles (better than aeldari rubbish) and you could gain the Eldar equipment ability.
Jae could get a free shot at anyone who melee attacks you, and vice versa.
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Alright this weapon was worth the absolute bullshit fight required to get it.
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>>540662567
A romance is meant to culminate in a physical relationship or you may as well just be friends.
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>>540662962
You’re never going to be friends or have sex with your waifu
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>>540662962
Sex is not the "culmination"
It's more like the beginning
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>>540662576
>Jae isn't poor
>She has a huge network and gives you 2 PF
lmao, literally the same amount spent feeding the envoy fish if you decide to properly cater their visit
jae is literally nothing on the RT's radar
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>>540659846
>at least she hasn't put out for anyone else
Don't be too sure
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>>540662784
I just want some drama and actual character development, man.
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>>540663328
And how many PF does Cassia bring you?
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>>540663520
That enrages anons. They want a happy doormat
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>>540663306
Femoid take
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>>540659697
Why is here in game model way hotter than her portrait?
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>2 of
Literally makes you richer than 99% of the universe because 40k economics is retarded
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>>540664076
Her finest hour isn't scuffed. So basically all the PF I earned after recruiting her.
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>>540662271
criminal life, criminal waif (plus I already romanced cassia the first time I played)
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>>540654276
What is the best hotu-sou bridge module, guys?
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Argenta should have been black and romanceable.
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>>540667582
maybe a crpg should let you create your own waifu (ie character gen them) like the player gens their character so they can fit anons' fetishes. have them be plot important too, like the bg3 dream guardian but not a fucking squid.
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>>540667817
Sounds fucking stupid because you couldn't incorporate their race/gender/appearance into their characterization or backstory and now your ugly midget dwarf with vitiligo and the tall space goth elf with big tits are somehow the same character
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>>540668128
Just make it like bg3 where race barley effects the story
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>>540668128
what?? i mean you generate your player character like normal, and then you generate your waifu
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>>540668397
Okay I generate my tall space goth elf with big tits waifu, what's her story? is she a proud elf? why is she a goth? is she slutty? she isn't any of these things because another player generated an ugly midget dwarf with vitiligo and that's the SAME CHARACTER ROLE
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>>540668541
She is a blank slate like tav from bg3, ans you can pick her alignment and background which will determine her personality like solasta.
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>>540668541
The game and story would be built around the waifu generation system obviously, have them right a couple different backstories/personalities the player can choose at the start and have it have some minor effects on interactions in the game
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>>540668702
write*
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>>540668676
You don't want a waifu, you want a barbie doll you can put on funny clothes on
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all waifuniggers must hang
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>>540669124
Just like Icewind dale
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>Leave Fort Joy for the XP, go back immediately
>No longer able to save Emmie or tell Buddy about her
Fuck this gay world
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Waifu creation with a cuck slider
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>>540668128
Depending on how the setting is, those traits would inconsequential. Something like Warhammer Fantasy would couldn't escape those, but for something like PF, Seelah may as well be an amorphous blob orphan from some corner of the world who joined an order of good after doing something bad.
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>>540669510
>range is from aerie to arueshalae
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>>540667817
I wish you fags would just play a porn game. Theres games that let you do this
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>>540667817
Need to stop calling people like this romancefags because you don’t even want that
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Seriously what's the appeal of owlcat games? They are poorly balanced, have horrible stories that they openly admit they just write at the last minute, they dont even play test their games and they are always buggy as shit for the first 2-3 years on release. 90% of the post talking about owlcat games is just waifu wars are the waifus really that good?
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>>540667817
IWD, DOS1, Spellforce 3 to a lesser extent
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>>540670995
Maybe you’ll find out one day if you ever play one
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>>540671214
I played rogue trader it was a 6/10 at best.
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>>540670995
>waifus really that good?
No anons hate all of choices. They make good power fantasies games I guess
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>>540670995
Kingmaker is kino storytelling
WOTR has great gameplay
>They are poorly balanced
Very good anon, please do post proof of you beating these games on any relevant difficulty
Do feel free to add a (You) to this post in your post as proof
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>>540671345
well there's your problem
you started with their worst game
now play wrath then kingmaker on your journey to vnderstanding
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>>540671928
>rtwp
>great gameplay
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>>540672002
>turn-based is a built-in option
Very good anon, please do post proof of you beating these games on any relevant difficulty
Do feel free to add a (You) to this post in your post as proof
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>>540671214
I beat kingmaker which I really enjoyed until pitax. I got to chapter 3 wotr multiple times but always get burnt out on how long and repitiive the game is. I tried rogue trader once before realizing its just another buggy unpolished game that outstays its welcome and owlcat are never going to improve as devs.
They've made three major games and all of them have the exact same problems.
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I wanna smooch her.
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>>540672215
>implying anyone plays these games TB
dishonest opinion, discarded
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>>540673314
Very good anon, please do post proof of you beating these games on any relevant difficulty
Do feel free to add a (You) to this post in your post as proof
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>>540673680
don't have to because I'm not that anon plus shitty RTWP gameplay has nothing to do with the balance issue you broken record
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>>540674023
>Very good anon, please do post proof of you beating these games on any relevant difficulty
>Do feel free to add a (You) to this post in your post as proof
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>>540674148
the only thing more repetitive than your spam is the 246154657147213714743134135 trash encounters found in these RTWP games
>but you can turn on TB dude
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>You have to beat this boring game on hard or you're not allowed to critisize it!
wotr isn't even worth beating on story mode.
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>>540674351
It's interesting you've turned "any relevant difficulty" into "hard." Why do you think you did that?
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Pillars turn based mode coming
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>>540671160
dont remember iwd or spellforce 3 having this
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>>540673680
Uhhh Anon the games are really easy even on Unfair. You just stack buffs on your MC until they can't miss, deal 10times damage, and can't be hit. Early game is the only time things are even a bit challenging.
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I'm about to play Divinity Original Sin 2
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>>540674538
Its interesting that you kept repeating "any relevant difficulty" so if they provided proof you could always move the goalpost and say 'oh you beat it on core? You're a noob try beating it on hard!"
"oh you beat it on hard? you're a noob try beating it on unfair!"
Not that beating the game on a "relevant difficulty" is relevant to the discussion at all. The game is buggy, repetitive and poorly designed on every mode.
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>>540675217
I noticed that you've dodged the question, Anon. Do you have any thoughts on that?
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Post alignment/mythic youtubes

Aeon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tybs1T9OLBg&list=PLtj_HurkS7Zy5ocS2jbmtgk-muF8h0hnN
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>>540676067
Demon -> Legend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmenTtGe_6I
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I don't understand. I just don't understand.
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>>540676730
You'll allow him to suffer longer just for the fun of it. That's what deldar do.
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>>540676067
>Angel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgI8xWUau00
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>>540657534
Legend is the John Pathfinder path. Azata is the homosexual path.
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>>540676067
Azata: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHytjEj7B9g
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But now
YOU
are all ALONE
None of this MATTERS
no
NONE OF THIS matters…
At all…..
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>>540677585
k
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>>540677727
Wh40k fag detected
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>>540677585
For me, it’s “this man is your half-brother”
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>>540676067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV1a9h8wITs
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>>540677778
I like fantasy more.
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>>540677585
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>>540677568
Chadzata
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>>540676067
Trickster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4c_SkROzzo
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>>540676067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiY6HmGDtLY
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>>540676067
Azata pre act 4
https://youtu.be/lWqJTKdznaM?si=1z2jFfpGEvYVBcyZ
Azata halfway through act 4 and on
https://youtu.be/vyA1z2A-lhU?si=0j1MgVlas7tNzMsx
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>>540676067
Devil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jI6iAa-cC0
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another thread ruined by the insufferable Owlkitten gang
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Uhmm, people keep using Smite Evil on Camellia, should I be worried?
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>>540676067
Better devil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUNFgN-Lh6c
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Is there any hope for the starfinder game to be good
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>>540679740
No, it’s a well known bug
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>Wasteland 4 announcement
Holy shit how are you guys not talking about this
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is kinetic knight a good class for kingmaker? first run
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>>540679352
Correct
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>>540680120
Not really as your MC, because you get a companion (Valerie) who slaps as Kinetic Knight
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>>540680120
You can make a better kinetic knight out of base Kineticist
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>>540680120
Have you played WotR or are you entirely new?

imo kinetic shit is boring and you get a companion who's pretty cool story-wise but I find kineticist boring-tier personally

Ask me anything I'm in my cups and happy to help
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God I can't wait for:
- Swordhaven
- Banquet for Fools
- Solasta 2
- (maybe that ancient greek game, Aletheia or something, it was cool dude stopped in ages ago)
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>>540680276
>>540680291
I wanted to make my MC the Kinetic Knight yeah. And doesn't the base have a burn cost for using the blade?

>>540680392
I've finished Wrath a couple times so I'm not completely new to the ruleset. I'm pretty dead set on playing a KK for some reason though.
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>>540680746
>And doesn't the base have a burn cost for using the blade?
Initially, yes, but as you level up the cost of using infusions gets reduced, including the kinetic blade. Kinetic Knight loses access to the metakinetic abilities which let you empower and maximize your blade's damage, and that can be a big deal.
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>>540679740
It doesn't do any damage to her though because she is a Sweetie Pie
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>>540680746
You can run a perfectly fine MC as a kinetic knight
It’s just that Valerie’s built as a pure fighter tank with like 21 base Con and 12 strength, so a KK build makes sense for her
If you aren’t gonna use Valerie, then yeah KK works perfectly fine for an MC. Your DLC companions are Kineticists too, but they’re more the “sit back and evaporate everything” type of kineticists
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>>540680905
>>540681060
>Kinetic Knight loses access to the metakinetic abilities which let you empower and maximize your blade's damage
Now that is some bullshit. I might go base and just blast until I can transition into using the blade. Thank you anons.
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>>540680021
>actually got me excited for a second
Not cool anon
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>>540680746
Well then have fun.
More importantly going into KM is:
- you will need Blind Fight, somewhere around level 5ish?
- Some possible bullshit about missing Jubilost. I don't know how to help here without spoiling. If you end up at a river crossing before some gnomes, go back. Err. Uhh. It sucks to miss him but I'm failing at how to say it.
- If it's in your RP, try to save the troll dude, he can be an advisor.
- If you come across a place where people died in horror, well...
- If there's crazy high traps maybe come back later
- Torches can hit swarms, along with AoE and thrown acid/etc
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>>540681324
>>540676067
CN Demon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rWsvW14u9o
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Best turn based CRPG?
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>>540682150
Tabletop. This is the reason for turns, you can't just shout out everything going on.

Computers can handle that so we've seen some good iteration on that, mostly only from Pillars 1 and 2.
But if you're mostly interested in turns, then I'd direct you to playing tabletop with other people.
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>>540682150
BG3

*does idle animation until it's my turn to post again*
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>>540681381
I'll try to remember this shit anon.
Meanwhile the game has already given me the cute halfling girl I won't get to fuck. Fuck owlcat and fuck this gnome too.
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>>540676067
Lich (also just excuse for more Electric Wizard fuck you)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLJSbQTDb-w
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>>540676067
LG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs5hOhI4pEE
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>>540654276
You didn't beat the game.
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>>540671928
NTA, and I disagree with his bad faith question and premise, I'm generally one of the people arguing in Owlcat's favor since I've loved all three of their games, but let us be honest and not pretend that owlcat's games have a good difficulty system. It's one of the flaws I would say. There's no meaningful difference between Core and the hardest difficulty in wotr, because the hardest difficulty in wotr just requires you to cast a few buffs before you go in, and the middle difficiulties don't require that. It's the same enemies in the same positions using the same spells and abilities, they're just inflated AC and DC and save numbers in higher difficulties. So you have to cast various things on yourself to overcome spell resistance or whatever the situation demands. But it's not even like you need to be smart and do homework to be good at the game either, since the game has an inspect feature that will tell you what you need to cast on yourself....

Again, I'm a huge owlcat simp and I've preordered all their games and I'm doing the same with Dark Heresy, I'm just chiming in because I disagree with the premise that difficulty means anything in owlcat games.

In contrast, in bg3 for example, enemies have different items in their inventories and different spells on their spell list in Tactician mode, and Honor mode takes it another step and gives the bosses throughout the game lair actions which are unique reactions to specific events (killing their summons, using magic, using a certain element on them, adding or subtracting damage resistance, etc) that are unique to those difficulty levels and actually meaningfully change the encounter and what you have to do as a player.
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Nothing feels better than being a Fighter in a world of Wizards
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>>540686179
Nothing feels better than being a lich in a world of soft ass bitches with no willpower.
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>>540686179
>Knowledge check (World) failed
>Knowledge check (Arcane) failed
>Perception check failed
>Lore (Religion) check failed
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>>540686179

Uooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeex!!
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>>540686179
For me?
Shortest race available
Monk
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Love calls you by your name
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>>540686429
Based.
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>>540686179
anti-mage build with rapist dip, here I go
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>female sorcerers aren't called sorceresses
>female bards aren't called bardesses
>female druids aren't called druidesses
>but specifically seethe about body types
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Male rogues should be called gigolos
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I love playing roles
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There's one role I've never played
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>start DOS2
>talk to Sebille
>she licks my arm and tells me she sees visions of me with a past lover
That broke immersion for my chud incel ass
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>>540687598
Magic and bards in general are gay coded so no one cares.
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>>540688706
play the role of chad thundercock silly
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>>540676067
CN Trickster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqlR5D0y23s
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>>540687598
>bardesses
Sounds dumb
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>>540687598
It's not the 19th century anymore bro
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>>540687598
bonus points if they those other terms are dumb but think women dropping actresses and being called actors instead is silly/stupid
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>>540688706
Just pretend she mistook your right hand for your lover.
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What role do you want to play but no game offers it?
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Every single day I play a role.
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>>540689389
Okay that's pretty funny and kind of hot I'll go with that
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>>540676067
Wilcer I, uh, .. *blush* you, I mean
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>>540689461
Incubus
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>>540676067
Chaotic Neutral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWpZC1bKfX8
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>>540676067
Legend, fuck all nonsense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdntZi3YDsM

>Magic Missle casings: "Fuck Worldwound, I want to grill"
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>>540689461
Sauron or a Dark Lord in general. Yeah there are plenty of games that let you be "evil" but none of them feel like you're a Dark Lord rising to power. It's just the regular adventure but you pick the evil options and maybe get an evil ending.
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>>540676067
Lawful Neutral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbBU06irWT8
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Linzi and Nurah threesome
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>>540692061
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2616460/Dungeon_Keeper_2/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/11450/Overlord/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/50620/Darksiders/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2005160/Naheulbeuks_Dungeon_Master/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/493900/Dungeons_3/
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What's up with all the dungeons anyhow
for me, it's not Dungeons and Dragons but more just X or Dragons nahmean haha inclusive or haha

Anyhoo when it comes to playing roles, I gotta say: I prefer the Dragons to the Dungeons, y'all feel me? *audience laughter*

But when I go back to the preparation room, I can't even look at myself in the mirror, because actually I do prefer Dungeons.
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Dark Heresy will flop if Owlcat doesn't add at least 2 attractive female companions. The current lineup is bland and not pleasing to the eye of the male gamer which is the main customer.
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>>540693083
You are a bad person and you are ruining the genre.
Just please go and read romance novels to get this fix you're desperate for.
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>>540693083
you don't want kroot pussy anon?
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Dont Russians love anime? Owlcat should make a tactical crpg thats a naruto rip off.
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-Solasta
-ToEE
-Underrail

the trio of games too hard for owlsloppers. If you didnt beat these you are a weger and need to go back.
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>>540693582
Only one of those games is actually difficult
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>>540693745
i said too hard for wegers not hard
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Wenduag romance is nicer than i thought, really bring out the sadist in me
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>>540694238
This isn't part of the romance, though there is a scene where you dom her in the bedroom
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>>540688706
>>540689389
Wait wasn't that the joke? Vincke called you an onanist
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>>540693206
They don't want romance novels. What they want is a hallmark movie.
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Why is solasta in the op when its listed as a rpg and not a crpg on steam?
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Only a few hours into DOS2 but the Red Prince is the best out of the party members so far. Sebille sex albeit
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applause please ;)
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clapping with my ass cheeks
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>September 28th
>temple of elemental evil still isnt out yet on steam
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KInda want to romance the nymph but I'm not sure about going for the secret ending on my first run
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Temple of elemental evil is overrated boomer crap, Wrath is a much better implementation of 3.5e
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In a just world we would have gotten more games in the style of ToEE from troika.
The game has a great base but they just chose a pretty boring module to adapt and its troika so of course its buggy af.
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>>540689461
Playable Cartomancer and Oracle classes. Not necessarily from Pathfinder tabletop implementations.
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>>540693206
Check Owlcat's own polls, the vast majority think romance is important in a crpg, cope. You are the minority anti-romancefag
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>>540687598
Only sorceress sounds cool. The rest is unacceptable.
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>>540697883
THVTHNVKE bg3 has shown other crpg studios the way.
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>>540698002
For every 1 person who doesn't care about romance there are 6 that do.
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Arue is hotter than any BG3 dork.
Mishulin's Demongirl fetish literally carries Owlcat's Romances.
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This whole thing is stupid, on both sides. Romances are nice and most people agree they're fun, so obviously saying they're bad is not true. But they should just be icing on the cake of an already good game, you have a long list of more important things to do to make a good game before you should be focusing on romances. The characters have to be actually interesting characters or else a romance is just a cheap checkbox. Veilguard had this issue for example. It's really unfortunate that this has become a forefront topic of crpg discussion when it always should have been just a nice cherry on top feature.

I actually think Sawyer was correct when he said that if you do it, it should be done right. I also think that he was correct when he said that romance can be good, people just should avoid making it another quest where you "win". These are not original thoughts and he's mostly stating the obvious, he's just a prominent figure who has said them so he's brought up a lot on this topic.

I actually think Kibellah was pretty well done. Her romance is not just selecting options, it actually checks your character's alignment and how you handle certain quests. She has several romance endings that are sidegrades, not failures and "win" states. Her non-romanced character is fine and coherent, and her non-romance endings are fine and coherent. Her romance actually has some messed up parts and you can easily accidentally do things that are not actaully good for her as a person, which is interesting and unique. She has a lot of what makes a good videogame romance. Branching paths, not just based on dialogue, can fail easily, but also not every ending is just a fail or success.

I'd like to see more romances that are integrated into the plot of the game, have more branching paths, and check to make sure the player is paying attention and not just selecting the overtly romance-y choices. In other words, realistic.
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Waifu idea, big titty mommy gf.
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People don't hate romance. They hate romancefags.
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>>540676730
Neither does owlshart
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>>540698562
>Sawyer was correct when he said that if you do it, it should be done right. I also think that he was correct when he said that romance can be good, people just should avoid making it another quest where you "win".

I don't dislike Sawyer as much as many here seem to but I think it depends what he means by doing a romance well.

I'd rather a romance where its another quest where you "win" over a romance that's phoned in, unsatisfying or jarringly wrtten.

I think Mass Effect did romances somewhat decently even if they're a little heavy handed on the male romance fantasy.

I liked the Kibellah stuff too but found Cassia and Yrliet a little dull in the romance aspect. Wendaug was fun but her romantic scenes felt like she slipped on a circlet of intellect or something because the writing changed, I don't think Wendaug was a good romance but it wasn't bad either. I never finished Arue or Camellia's and I didn't do any romances in Kingmaker (though tried and screwed up romancing Nyrissa).

BG2 romances were only good because it was one of the first times we saw them, but in retrospect they're a little lacking. Its more like just picking your favorite elf and continuing on your way in that one.

Dragon Age's romance would work better if it were only Morrigan and then tying her even more deeply into the main story of each one, but also erasing Inquisition and Veilguard from this timeline.

I don't remember KotOR's romances well enough to opine on them.
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>>540698354
Democracy has failed.
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wasteland 3 has proven you dont need romance.
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>>540699793
>I liked the Kibellah stuff too
>i liked the romance where a servitor remained a servitor
Opinion discarded. You have no idea what make a good romance
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owlcat uses romance as a crutch for their shit games.
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>>540693083
You are a correct person
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Why do waifufags have such shit taste.
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>>540698002
Antiromancefags have 0 arguments against this
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>>540693083
You can hope that it will, but it won't even if it has no romances at all, despite the loud screeching romance incels are a minority and nobody plays non dating sims for romance
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>>540701412
Lmao
See >>540698002 /pol/ zoomie puritan
People want quality pussy in their rpgs
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>>540672927
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>>540701536
>ask a question to a loud screeching minority
>loud screeching minority procedes to screech
yes
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For Varnhold's Lot in Kingmaker, do you make a waifu for Varn or do you make a bro?
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>>540701706
I make a bro. Varn is too cringe.
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>>540701854
Yeah I've never done this DLC before but I feel like making him a waifu MC would be a bit awkward.
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>>540702116
I'm one of the few who liked the DLC quite a lot. It's a nice succinct adventure
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-PoE
-WotR
-BG3

the trio of crpgs that matter. If you played these you can already participate in 90% of crpg discussions
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>>540700582
>i liked the romance where a servitor remained a servitor
That's now how Kibellah's romance ends
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>>540699793
>BG2 romances were only good because it was one of the first times we saw them, but in retrospect they're a little lacking. Its more like just picking your favorite elf and continuing on your way in that one.
Jaheira has the single most complicated romance in RPG history tf are you smoking?
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>>540699793
>found Cassia and Yrliet a little dull in the romance aspect.
Agreed. Cassia is too much of the same thing, for me. Playing along with her little courtship games.
Yrliet's romance is barely there, and I'm not talking about sex or lack thereof. You start out talking to her a bit, but that just doesn't go anywhere then the next thing you know she's wanting to get soul-bonded.
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>>540701703
It's thousands of people echoing the same opinion on multiple platforms
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>>540702813
They are all wrong and can be disregarded.
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>>540702885
based
total midwit death
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People only like the RT romances because the romance music is epic and tricks you.
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>>540699793
>KotOR's romances
I only did the girl ones. They go like this
Bastila
>Space Hermione
Handmaiden
>You beat the shit out of her until she loves you
Visas Marr
>You fight her to a standstill in a lightsaber duel and she immediately falls in love with you to the extent that her alignment flips
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>>540703129
>+3 con
imagine
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>>540702658
It's very long but hardly complicated.
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>>540703204
I can't remember if Mira has a romance or not
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>>540702979
does anybody like RT romances? no one likes yrliet, nobody talks about jae, everyone is pissed you can't romance argenta, and cassia is used as cope. I've never seen someone have an unquestionably positive opinion on RT romances that wasn't a response to someone hating on them, which is just classic 4chan contrarianism.
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>>540703297
The harper trial alone puts it above any other romance.
>no don't worry I'll be back in a week :)
>hidden 3 day timer starts
Even Aerie has the love triangle.
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>>540703320
I must be the only guy who likes Jae's romance. It was fun and interesting.
I expected to like Yrliet's because it started well talking about interesting topics, but got bogged down in Crudarach shit and didn't really develop.
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>>540703320
Femcels won bigly with rt romances, but femcels always win. Except in kingmaker
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>>540703462
she holds orgies on your ship and doesn't even invite you dude. I like her as a shady jester but no way I'd romance her.
>>540703540
that's true. I don't pay much attention to chick-centered romances and owlcat become bigger faggots every game so I guess femcels got an upshot.
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>>540703453
>not immediately chasing after the love interest who has been arbitrarily removed from the group
Romance so complicated you need a guide for dummies
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>>540703658
and yet still more complex than any other RPG romance. face it, bioware did it best. shame they died over a decade ago.
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>>540703453
What happens after three days? Does she cheat on you with a bear?
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I do agree that romance should more than "do this questline or pick these dialogue options until you win" but long or overly complex romances aren't much of a solution either. Nobody wants to get to the end of a 40+ hour rpg and realize they should have picked X dialogue option at the semen factory when your love interest asked if she could go for a swim.
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>>540703308
I never realized how much of a cougar she looks like
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You guys are so cringe sometimes.

Visas's romance is kino because you bond over your similar intense wounds you both bear. You were cut off from the force after the intense dark side energy almost killed you at Malachor, and her homeworld was devoured by Nihilus while she was witness to the whole thing and then he enslaved her. When you meditate together, you both feel slightly less pain, because you get each other. It's very sweet in a tragic way and it was almost two decades before Yrliet said a similar line. So I don't want to see any of you numbskulls not giving it credit.

Kibellah's romance is also pretty nuanced. It deals with sense of self and it's very easy for the payer to choose unhealthy choices for her under the mistake to just choosing things that seem like they advance the romance. She's been a puppet literally her entire life and it's up to you to try to encourage a person to be born out of the puppet or keep her that way, or the third option of make it even worse. Not all of these are obvious and it even depends on how you handle certain quests. It's actually really well done both mechanically and narratively. If you think she's "just a servitor" then you unironically failed the media literacy test, and it's a skill issue.

>>540703308
She does not. She says you're old if you're a guy and she says she's straight if you're a female.

I had a crush on her when I was 14 playing kotor2 for the first time. She says her idea of a romance is to capture a target and leave them handcuffed in a storage closet and starve them for 3 days to see if they're willing to talk. This was one of my formative years first crushes.
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>>540703320
>does anybody like RT romances
Not even that many posts ago there were anons praising Kibellah's romance.
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>>540698562
Sawyer probably personally vetoed the Ydwin romance. His argument might be sound on the surface, but he is very much your enemy. Remember that.
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Did PoE2 have romances? I remember some flirty options with Xoti but I dunno if they went anywhere, I got bored and stopped playing.
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>>540704042
>When you meditate together, you both feel slightly less pain, because you get each other
Stopped reading there, this gave me Yrliet vibes and that makes me REALLY mad
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>>540704054
ima be real with you, I stopped paying attention to RT long before that DLC came out so I can't speak on that ones actual quality, but you're right. that one is the only one that gets praised without qualifiers. I would criticize it for being a DLC romance but honestly Kingmaker is in the same position. I really fucking hate owlcats faggot tendencies desu. they get worse with each game.
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>>540704179
Nah, Visas is good. Yrliturd is trash
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>>540703974
She has Karen hair
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>>540699793
>heavy handed on the male romance fantasy
There's so little pushback on Mass Effect's romances in general it may very well be a case study in doing them well.
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>>540704179
Visas the best cerebral waifu in vidya. Yrliet is like the chink knock-off.
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>>540704154
Not in the way most players understand the term
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Yrliturd whines constantly.
>boo hoo I miss Crudarach :(
Weren't you just telling me how stifling and ossified it was?
Visas just gets on with the job, taking only a moment for herself when you come across her old prison quarters.
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>>540704280
Mass Effect is a space opera. Grandiosity is expect and that includes in the romance. It goes both ways since Garrus is great with femshep.
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>>540704356
It's exactly the same as most rpg romances
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>>540704230
>that one is the only one that gets praised without qualifiers
>incels praise a romance where your waifu does what you tell her, has no personality of your own, and literally calls you anon-sama
Wow, who could have ever imagined! It's the worst "romance" and character owltards ever written. Anyone who praises it in any way whatsoever immediately betrays their pathetic nature
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>>540704440
mishi pls
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the only romance Kotor 2 needed was Atris, shame Obsidian are gay
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>>540704540
Shitris was a retard
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>>540704280
>There's so little pushback from the target audience
You don't say
Sawyer would hate the idea of all these wildly different space babes falling for Shepard because he's just that special as the alpha male of the universe
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>>540704609
And retarded girls are cute. Exile cock/pussy could have fixed her.
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>>540704440
Yeah you didn't play it. That's not how it goes.
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>>540704673
Cope, incel
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>>540704673
>Anon-samaaaaaaa, this is the most important moment of my life! Tell me what to do, onegaishimasu!
>you should kill yourself!
>You're right, anon-sama, I should
>actually does it
You're right she clearly has a personality and her own thoughts on everything. How could have been so wrong
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>>540408587
>ctrl+f "romance"
>58 results

>>540654276
>ctrl+f "romance"
>82 results

You guys probably listen to Taylor Swift or Adele
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>>540704440
Nearly everyone I've seen who says this is either a troon or a women without fail. They will also vehemently defend Marz as the best romance in the game.
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>>540662878
did you get 10 damage added to your total after DR because of difficulty?
i've never seen that before. which difficulty?
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>>540704179
You need help
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>>540705127
the only thing I've been listening to lately is ur mum moaning on my cock, faggot.
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>>540704967
>it's easy for a RT convince the death cultist who believes death brings you to the god emperor to kill herself
not seeing the issue here
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can you actually fuck an eldar and have babies
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>>540704070
Any proof or is this just one of your schizo delusions?
That post was nearly 20 years ago and you're still mindbroken over it.
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>>540705280
It's never been done before
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>>540705280
There used to be half-eldar, which is a definitive yes, however the piece of media they appeared in was an older edition of the ttrpg which has not been acknowledged by GW for quite some time and has been officially replaced by other games that have chosen to not feature half-eldar, which is also kind of a hint that they're no longer canon. Which means no.

So the answer is....maybe. Welcome to Warhammer 40k lore continuity.
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>>540705139
Kibbles has a good amount of dyke fanart
The only place I've ever seen seethe about her is her dedicated autist here
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>>540705409
Kibbles looks like she eats pussy like it's her last meal, not surprised she has dyke fans
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>>540705334
that's... an answer to a different question.
>>540705408
surely there's some lore about their anatomy, or some rich provincial lord tried to knock up his xenos pet
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Why do so many people here have strong opinions about shit they haven't read
Why don't you play games instead of shitpost
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>>540704609
Only because she was sexually frustrated due to poor Shitsidian programming
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>>540705534
>Thomas Hildern.jpg
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I hope we actually get a corruption mechanic this time. It was a part of the tabletop, and is a decent way to mechanically gaige your inclination towards a heretical path
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>>540705624
kys radical scum
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>>540705505
Sure, one of them is even statted in the original 1980's sourcebooks. But this topic is a "GW hasn't said a single word about it in two decades" situation so we don't know the answer under current lore. The original sourcebooks are contradicted many times and are essentially de-canonized.
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>>540705624
Even if we do, Owlsharts being owlsharts they're gonna botch it anyway, so i don't have high hopes. In fact the more interviews about the game I see the less hope I have for it. Retards have clearly learnt nothing from their previous failures and are just shoving that money cake in their mouth without even trying to chew now
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>>540705280
In first edition it was possible but infrequent. It's never been mentioned since, but neither has it been officially ruled out.
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>>540705694
You have no idea how corruption even works, retard. It has nothing to do with being radical and puritan. It's just something you get while dealing with shit. Killed a demon? Congrats, you get corruption just for witnessing it manifest. Destroyed a magical artfact? Lol, lmao, even. Here's 2 corruption points for you anyway. Stopped a warp ritual? Oh you better believe it's gonna be corruption points galore.
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>>540705505
>surely there's some lore about their anatomy
In the Xenology book there was the text of an imperial autopsy of a male eldar, genitals were described as unremarkable (ie appeared human), and overall the internal anatomy appeared vaguely similar to human but with significant differences. The brain was denser and larger. Digestion was strange and appeared to rely on some warp process. In particular for females to carry a pregnancy to term they appeared to require several infusions of sperm from the male, at precise stages in the pregnancy.
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>>540705280
You can fuck anything.
No.
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>>540706007
>You can fuck anything.
I choose you then.
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>taking breaks to dump your load into your xenos pet (she requires frequent usage to carry the baby to term)
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>>540705898
>Congrats, you get corruption just for witnessing it manifest. Destroyed a magical artfact? Lol, lmao, even. Here's 2 corruption points
That's even what Jimmy says in RT. Just doing the shit he does is leaving mark on his soul
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>>540706032
By "you" I didn't mena you specifically. If you could actually fuck anyone you wouldn't be sitting here writing pathetic passages about muh waifus
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>>540706064
>Elantach remember you have to inseminate me again at 7 o'clock
>Do you want me to tell you when it's 7 o'clock
*oh no not again* no that's ok, sweetheart, Abelard will remind me
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>>540705898
that's fine, i'll just breathe some incense and hang out in the cloister for a bit. nbd
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>>540705913
Reading that they sound really strange inside
>lung analogues
They don't even have proper lungs. You know birds don't have lungs like us either? I bet hugging an eldar would be like holding a bird, all rigid and non-cuddly.
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>>540706128
Too late. Bend over and pucker up.
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>>540706352
Yeah, that's pretty much all you're capabale of - shitposting
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>>540706210
Babe, you're gonna make me explode like an Aeldari craftworld
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doing the meditation with the xenos shouldn't lock you out of romances with the cassia or the other girls.

it's like saying that if you have a dog you can't get married. what?
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>>540706458
ironic
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>>540706469
Yes, yrliturd and all her content is badly written. It's nothing new
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>>540706469
>Sorry Kibbi, I can't hang out tonight, I already made plans to merge my soul with Yrliet and spend hour after hour exploring each other's very essence in utmost intimacy
I don't get it either
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>>540706469
>I swear, there's nothing physical going on between me and her
>Oh really, Shereen. You don't expect me to believe you spend all that time with that xenos female without ANYTHING happening?
>Why would you hang around with her then
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>>540705313
>Any proof
I said it was likely, okay?
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>play crpg
>you're the baddest motherfucker around
>lords open their treasuries at your persuasion
>bandits flee for their lives when you glance at them
>has the stamina to sprint all day while fighting
>somehow hasn't had sex in months
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>>540706747
Jae has the most based takes
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>>540707028
nta but that's what he was asking about. what information have you seen that leads you to believe it's likely?
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>>540707045
>SEX SEX SEX SEX THE PROTAG MUST HAVE SEX SEX SEX SEX EVERY DAY OR ITS A HUMILIATION RITUAL LIKE /v/ TOLD ME
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is that quest in act 4 when you help Jae kill her ex a romance only thing
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Where's the female DElder companion lolcat?

WHERE IS SHE???
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>>540707142
He has none. Just another incel seething that another imaginary character wasn't itnerested in what was between his legs. Just like irl
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>>540707237
why is there a sad, tiny guardsman
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>>540707220
Yeah
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>>540707153
how can you be immersed in a game where you play an incel?
it's not chess or counterstrike, you're playing roles
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>>540707346
That's just one of the deldar lady's collectible figurines.
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>>540707241
i honestly didn't read what you fags were "arguing" about. only the one post i replied to.
could care less about some argument about crpg romance. the whole concept is scuffed anyway.
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>>540707142
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Sawyer#Games
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>>540707367
Unlike you I can have sex in real life. I play games to experience something I can't otherwise get. Like adventure or murder
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>>540707558
try again, this time use a brain cell or two to form a coherent sentence, if you can
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>>540707612
you still don't get it.
it's about how uncanny it feels to play as a guy who is surrounded by chicks and is getting no play.

doesn't it feel fucking weird to you? to have 6 girls in your camp but sleep alone?
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>>540707842
>you still don't get it.
Neither do you apparently. Keep seething and crying over tfw no imaginary sex
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Are the kotr games worth playing nowadays? I remember getting one of them when I was a kid and excited to play it but my shit ass computer couldn't run it lol
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>>540708280
yeah they're fun. the first game has some issues with modern OS's but nothing a little googling can't fix.
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>>540708117
>posts full of imaginary fantasies about me, a guy he's never even met
>ignores everything i said
are you all right
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>>540708280
only if you're into tsunderes
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>>540707649
Joshua Eric Sawyer (born October 18, 1975), more commonly known and credited as Josh Sawyer, J.E. Sawyer, or JSawyer, is an American video game designer, known for his work on role-playing video games. In a post from nearly 20 years ago, he stated that he no longer felt comfortable with how romance is written in CRPGs, which has been in line with the conspicuous lack of expected romances in games in which he had a major involvement, including Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas and its DLCs, Pillars of Eternity, and Pillars of Eternity: Deadfire, even though that was, and still is, industry standard. In particular, the character of Ydwin (mentioned above) in Deadfire was not romanceable, despite the likelihood that she'd have become a fan-favorite. Sawyer's stance on romances in CRPGs has been echoed in multiple interviews and videos since, where he candidly admitted at times to no longer having a grasp on the pulse of the industry, and what made the romances in the critically acclaimed Baldur's Gate 3 so popular.
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>>540707045
Jokes on you I'm here to kill, not to fuck.
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>>540708280
I wouldn't know, because I played them when they first released. I remember having a lot of fun with them, but don't know how well they'd hold up now. The graphics certianly don't. Plus the second game, while having inifnitely more interesting plot and companions is woefully buggy and unfinished, as is obsidian tradition. Play at your own risk
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Expeditions Rome is on sale, would you recommend it? Is it long? Is it difficult?
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>>540709759
unfortunately, she looks the least wholesome of them all.
which board btw
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>>540710942
/tg/ - Traditional Games
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>>540710927
Yes. No. Dunno, i'm a pussy that played it on normal
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>>540708280
The gameplay is super shallow but its a fun sci fi adventure and the story in 2 is very good.
I don't even really care for star wars but still enjoyed it. Not really something I'd replay though because of the gameplay.
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Why was this ever a thing?
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>>540712884
No idea, but it gave the most broken cape in the game and some of the hardest fights too if you do it right away
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>ask what i need when going to blackwater since it's apparently annoying as hell
>"oh you just need some will magic"
>go to blackwater
>everyone is literally unkillable unless you have an Adamantine weapon
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>>540713414
You can kill them fine if you attack them with lightning. They even drop lightening weapons for you. Or you can coup-de-grace them while they're down. The place was far more cancerous when it was first released since everyone there was also immune to lightening. They then changed it after a lot of whining
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>>540713738
>You can kill them fine if you attack them with lightning. They even drop lightening weapons for you.
I tried using lightning spells, but what did it do? Jackshite.
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>>540712884
It is called collab, you know what collab is, right?
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There's a reason why everyone picks Shadowheart and Morrigan, does mental gymnastics for Camellia, and begs for Argenta
White human woman/elf/half-elf just sells
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>>540713927
That's a lie. You use lighening on them, then they die normally.
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>>540715037
It is not. I used a spell with electricity damage and it did not kill them.
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>>540715060
Have you considered that you still need to lower their health to 0?
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>>540715158
I did use it when they were at zero health, the bar was completely gone.
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>>540715250
Guess you have a unique version of the game that doesn't work same way it does for everybody else
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>>540715060
>>540713927
Electricity strips them of their regen ability. They do not automatically die in one hit because you used lightning

But you can just kill them normally instead, it is just more of a slog that way
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>>540708280
Yeah they're good
For Kotor 2 get the REstored Content mod, it makes it a fair bit better.
DON'T get the Droid Planet mod. This is really boring and amateurish and inserted in such a way that you have no choice but to go through it.
It's separate from the restored content mod but they are sometimes bundled together so watch out.
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>>540714060
But owlcat doesn't own pathfinder. How can they agree to collab?
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I like Kibellah but she sounds better when she isn't being an edgy tryhard whispering all the time.
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is this buff a bug? i'm not anywhere near drezen
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>>540719671
It works on all captured territories. That said: I believe fast healing only works if you repair the bell in the zone where Arue lures you into to kill some Hag.
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>>540713414
The game fucking throws weapons at you that'll kill them now
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>>540713414
1. you are given a lightning weapon right away
2. zap or whatever cantrip works fine
3. coup de grace also fine
4. you are a literal dum-dum ding-dong
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alright bros I couldn't pull the trigger for Rogue Trader on the steam store but I pirated it and about to head in, created a Commisar and I picked the origins whatever seemed approapriate but didnt minmax

is it even relevant for normal difficulty? what is the best noob starting class? can psykers do giga damage? cause i'd like to try that out
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>>540722446
nothing matters for normal difficulty, you'll be curbstomping everything soon enough. One round combat where enemies don't get a chance.
Also enjoy the endless dead-horse-beating that 40k has to offer you. You did the right thing in pirating it, "mon-keigh" (That's space-elf for "monkey" btw)
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>No "Fuck off fag" option

But why?
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>>540726026
Anon...
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even ras dislike yrliet now
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>>540710927
Yeah, it's fun and something to play if you're burnt out from Owlcat games.
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Oh so they can talk about fucking other dudes 24/7 especially Wenduag but the second I show interest in some succubus sluts they get butthurt. Peak women moment.
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>>540726592
Yirleit's strongest solider has fallen. It's actually over yirlet bros...
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>>540726592
Why didn't he just make a different OC for Argenta?
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Which companions will leave if you go full heretic and will I need to kill anyone to avoid any gay surprises in the ending slides?
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>>540710927
It's alright, but feels unfinished. And if you're any kinda Romeaboo you'll feel incredibly let down.
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is pokemon a crpg
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>>540703129
>>540703308
Kotor 2 doesn't have romance at all
literally where did this mass delusion come from
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>>540731341
Heinrix, Argenta, Yrliet
they are all insufferable so you're not really losing much
You will have to kill Heinrix and Argenta at the end anyways because they'are actually bad guys
Yrliet just shoots a few uppity nobles in the heretic end and can safely be left alone
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>>540726982
This honestly looks like a porn game
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>>540722446
every "class" can do giga damage, I feel like Psykers just have more diversity in how you build them compared too the rest
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>>540703308
She kind of does if you count mods. No idea how good it is though.
https://www.nexusmods.com/kotor2/mods/1041
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CRPGs with werewolves?
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>>540733586
literally anything with droods
Bloodlines has one (enemy)
Tyranny has a werewolf-adjacent companion
NWN has werewolf enemies and a werewolf hunting quest
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>>540731341
Heinrix, Argenta and Ulfar will leave upon talking to the Inquisitor on Footfall in chapter 4. Yrliet leaves too if you partake in the xeno hunt.
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>>540734123
Yrliet leaves regardless
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So you're left with
>Idira
Makes sense, she's always been heretic
>Abelard
Is blindly loyal to you, ok
>Cassia
Pretty strange, but she also has strong personal bonds
>Marzipan
Is just fucking around,alright
>Kibbles and Solomorne
What
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Holy shit blackwater is legitimately unplayable

Not even because of the fuck you demons with 50 AC, no, but because of the absolutely fucking ridiculous lag; Why the FUCK does it lag SO FUCKING MUCH there
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>>540734761
Kibbles only pretends to care about big E because she's literally brainwashed, she wants unity with the RT
Solomorne essentially thinks the administratum and arbites are corrupt and failry incompetent and would rather enforce your own laws 'Lex Koronus'
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I hear Kibbles breaks up with you if you go dogma? Is that true?
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>>540736008
not necessarily, but it is an outcome
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>>540659846
Your pure elf waifu ends up fucking Marzipan in his Corsair ending or fucking off with him to clown college. She's not asexual she's so racist she will not touch you.
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>>540726592
Wonder if we will be treated to cringe "anal with Argenta" posts on his reddit
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>>540736008
Yeah, Kibbles romance needs you to treat her as a person, not a weapon, or else she decides she cannot love you more than her purpose.
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>>540736528
this is how anons talk about black women but then cry when the superior lifeform does it to them
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I barely remember any ending slides I've ever gotten, but at the same time I like that they're there.

Its always more about the journey for me. I think this is why I never cared a lot about the Mass Effect endings thing being phoned in colors too.

That said the only time I ever felt excited to read ending slides was in New Vegas.
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How many more hours do I have left in RT if I'm currently at the Siege mission (with all available side quests complete)?
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>>540726026
Imagine having this gay faggot shit in your game and shit talking Gale in BG3
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>>540738251
BG3 has no one as based as Daeran so it balances out
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>>540732317
>spoiler
Is that a swarm situation where they will come to me or do I need to leave them in Cumrag?
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What makes Daeran based?
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>>540736851
>eldar
>superior life form
Vacate my ship through the airlock immediately
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>>540738586
Then why do you want to fuck her?
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what's the point of all the classes that give you DR when every enemy in the game is just going to bypass it anyway? looking at Rageshaper and you lose the WIS to AC for DR on top of the AC penalties you already get when you go into your devastating form.
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>>540737992
>That said the only time I ever felt excited to read ending slides was in New Vegas.
Wasteland 3 is a whole song, with different verses depending on what you did, it's fucking great, only time I've cared about ending material really
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>>540732098
imagine the millenial bucks you make this garbage but rated M and slap a romance on it
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>>540739329
Basically the Pokemon Special manga.
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>>540738645
I don't. If there is something I seethe about it's the decision to add xenos romances. They can fuck off together for all I care.
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>>540738094
3-8 maybe
there is not much to do after that besides power through the necrons
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>>540739765
But aren't you excited for hot Kroot action in owlcat's new game?
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>>540738434
they leave in chapter 4 then show up just before the very last boss fight if they're still alive
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>>540736528
>she's so racist she will not touch yo
Crazy how the RT will stay by her side even after she betrays them, assist in saving her people and even can talk her out of killing one of her farseers but still gets seen as an animal. Meanwhile Marz is part of the cohort that tortured and wiped out her craftworld and he gets a pass. Its a shame we cannot access that decay weapon that killed her craftworld, would be real nice to drop in Commoragh or against that Eldar invasion in the future.
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>finish blackwater
>zero good loot
>zero good gear
>zero cool moments
>zero FPS
>enemies with 50 AC only give like 200 exp, finishing the quest is only 800
Did the person who made this area have a lobotomy or something?
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>>540741663
Damn. I was planning to tell Argenta to fuck off after she reveals she killed Mort but maybe I'll keep her around just to end her later on.
>>540741954
It was a backer quest made by a fucking sperg. You're lucky you aren't playing it on release like I did.
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I wish they cut Jae and gave us the daemonette instead
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I wonder if there will be cool romances in VTMB2
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Remember when Bioware had three generals on /vg/?
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>>540743738
That will be larian when their next 2 games come out. They truly are bioware 2.0
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Can you finish Honor Mode in Bg3 by playing normally and not cheesing every encounter? I mean stuff like actually talking with bosses and not setting up before the fight etc
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>>540744657
>>>/vg/bgg/
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>>540744657
No, it's never been done before
You HAVE to cheese and cheat in one of the easier RPGs
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>>540744657
yes, but you'd be making it much harder for yourself
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>>540741821
>Marzi gets a pass
He's got an Aeldari peepee you mon-keigh just wouldn't understand
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if you can't beat an rpg with 4 fighters the game's balance is whack
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>>540745149
>This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate,
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>>540744657
its pretty easy game. i did honor mode mp, last act one dude i was just using two dudes while i fucked off
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>>540741821
>that decay weapon
Isn't that the Eschatos that you get if you complete Pasqal's quest?
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>>540741596
I fucking hope every idiot Kroot romancer has so discover that they reproduce via backrub and that it's all their going to get.
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>>540746765
What about beakjob?
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>>540741821
>he gets a pass
90% murder him erm? While Yrliet has the most retarded simps. Don't care if Marz's basic, he's still better than whatever schizophrenia Yrliet has.
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>>540741954
Blackwater is a build test. You don't go there if you "aren't ready" or simply don't care.
Lich and Demon just weirds it. Yes you can lvl17 in act 3.
Aeon needs a team with Create Greater Undead Spammer to kill it as easily.
Have no idea about other mythics.
"Darkness" Doggy is a much better tester imo.
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>>540746937
I think the person you are responding to implicates that Yrliet gives Marzi a pass. As in, sure he abducted her, did torture shit so she testified at his retarded trial, did Drukhari shit on the ship, but then they fuck off as Corsairs and she's like hmmmm I'm going to let him smash. The RT on the contrary runs her Crudarach errands, forgives her, saves her ass and she won't even hug.
Romancing Yrliet really is the ultimate cuck fantasy.
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>>540746765
still more action than with loliet
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>>540747442
Yrliet always bats for Marz. Like when he's having his first sperg out on the ship. Maybe you got a point...
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>>540747442
What else were you expecting from an Owlcat game?
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>want to go heretic
>feel bad corrupting Kibbles
Anyone else like this? Do you still need to pick the synchro options to stop her breaking up with you?
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>>540741821
No rational person would keep Yrliet or Marazhai in their party. That would be like if Osama Bin Laden became a cabinet member in the US federal government.
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>>540747940
Marzi even literally spells it out for you during some rant when he abducts you that goes something like "we use mon-keigh when it suits us but when we really need something we turn to our own kin, like Yrliet did."
She uses you, but the day she needs to get laid it's not the RT's door she will knock on.
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>>540748382
Anon, I... I've got bad news for you.
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>>540726592
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>>540741954
Ironically the Numerian Greatsword is pretty good on Nenio if you dip Titan Fighter so you can dual wield it with the Quarterstaff of the Warmage for an extra +2 to spell DC.
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>>540750769
ironically? learn to speak english you zoomer mutt
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>>540742532
Sadly, no one intelligent exists in Owlcat to make better character design decisions, especially to help fill out heretic playthroughs.
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>>540748382
>No rational person
But that's my point. The RT is doing all this shit that is frankly egregious and would only be done if they actually care about Yrilet and she still finds you sickening. Not to mention she fucks off and leaves you to die alone whilst searching for a spirit stone.
>>540749020
Funnily enough Marz actually cares more about the RT than Yrilet does. IIrc he has ending where he sticks by you even when you go full chaos even though he know's he's gonna get fucked long term. This is also the second time Owlcat have added a buckbreaking romance option which makes me think someone on the team has a fetish. Maybe next time it can be a female companion for once.
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shave your perm, stop speaking hispanic ebonics, and hop off the owlslop
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Owlcat should make a Dresden Files game, that seems like the type of setting they could work well in.
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>>540745149
Yeah fuck off! This is not /bgg/ it's the romance general
>109 results
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>owlcat should make a mage the ascension game but worse
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>>540751321
>Marz cares more about the RT than Yrliet does because he's willing to let himself be consumed by heretic demon RT
Tbf Yrliet lets her spirit stone get smashed to make sure her greatgreatgrandparents don't squash your soul during the ritual, meaning she will get devoured by Slaanesh, for you. Yeah she doesn't put out but she does care in her own autistic way.
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>>540751321
His true love romance ending has him seeing you as a equal too
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>>540749741
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Dark heresy will have a sororitas romance.
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>>540752975
Shes a hag so not a virgin or cant have your babies.
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>>540752810
Honestly that shit just shows that Raszard never really cared for her as a character. Watch him butcher Argenta as she's made to fit his fantasies.
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>>540752975
What do we think about writing a character/romance solely because market indicators suggest it will help sell the game? Isn't that kind of soulless?
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>>540705717
Father was a elf btw. Human women x elf men forever.
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>>540753619
Owlcat only makes licensed games they don't make their own orginal IPs they have always been soulless.
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crpgg challenge: talk about a crpg that isn't owlcat-related
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>>540753619
Sister romance is the main thing people want. GW doesn't want it apparently so im not sure if Owlcat is baiting.
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>>540753998
Name a modern crpg that isn't Owlcat?
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>>540752496
>she will get devoured by Slaanesh
Except she spends all her time searching for a spirit stone to the extent where you spend the vast majority of your life alone. Its more akin to sacrificing your wallet to save your dog's life rather any actual romantic care.
>ritual
The ritual isn't solely for you though is it? She knows her previous craftworld got one shot by monkeigh so telling them to not start going nuclear is also to her benefit as well. Its fucking gay how Owlcat didn't account for Nomos in the ending slides. Sure these worthless Eldar craftworld fucks really can fight a Void Dragon Shard along with my fleet. Miss me with that bullshit.
>she doesn't put out
Doesn't she explicitly state she can't even stand any physical contact including a mere hug? Meanwhile Marz knows he will die horribly and still sticks by your side.
>>540752558
Much like Sosiel this faggot would have been the most popular romance in the game if they had just been girls.
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>>540741954
Stormlord gauntlents are pretty great for free conversion and good lightning spells.
Numerian greatsword is pretty good.
There is also at least one good helmet.
The total loot you get amounts to a shitton of gold at the very least
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>>540753619
complaining about that at this point with owlcat of all devs is laughable
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when are we getting another crpg of similar scale to bg3
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Rank the Class/Stronghold quests for BG2.

Bard Playhouser>Mage Sphere>Fighter Keep> Cleric Duties>Paladin Duties>Thief Duties>Ranger whatever
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>>540754197
Wasteland 3
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>>540754918
They're all pretty shit honestly
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>>540753858
Not only that but they always write them using an existing campaign manual as a guide. RT is the one they stepped the most away from that but even there they just copied all the locations and major npcs out of the RT ttrpg rulebook.
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>>540754753
swen's space game
maybe pillars 3 if the indians give sawyer enough money
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>>540754982
Is there dolly kissing?
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>>540754753
>>540754471
>>540754197

you need to play more than 5 rpgs to post here.

>>540754004
>>540753521
>>540752975

kys
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rpgs I played:
bg1 bg2 nwn bg3
can I post here
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What's going to bomb harder?
Shitlasta 2
The: flopanse
Failurelines 2
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Why do the random dragon map encounters give you nothing in solasta? A dragon should atleast drop minot loot.
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Avowed flopped you lost
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>>540755938
bloodlines 2
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Speaking of wasteland 3 dark heresy literally just copied and pasted their targeted shot UI and abilities.
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You guys think the 1.5 patch for Rogue Trader is gonna be good? Will pyromancer finally be dethroned?
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lads i'm really struggling through Kingmaker Act 2
Do all of these women telling me I have to visit them solo actually mean 'solo' or can I take my party there then walk
because I am not trying to fight trolls solo
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>>540756490
I noticed a lot of UI similarities in RT to Wasteland 3.
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Are shields for pussies or are they cool?
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There are too many classes and subclasses in WOTR and the constant dipping is not making me appreciate the original unit identity and unit feel
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>>540757704
Is using soap and bathing regularly for homosexuals or will staying dirty please the maidens?
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>>540757825
>the constant dipping
yeah it really sucks how they force you to do that
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>>540708280
no, theyre kinda bad, its basically a worse version of dragon age and dragon age is already slop tier
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>wasteland 3 but with magic
I will now buy dark heresy
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Companion idea: Aasimar, but evil
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companion idea: a rapist, but lawful
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>>540759378
Daeran bro
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Companion idea: a succubus but chaste
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companion idea: a vampire, but they subsist on semen
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>>540761170
Sounds like you want a MGE crpg.
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ooh mmy virgin succubus!!
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>>540716459
I imagine the games were good for the TT sales desu. I had never heard of pathfinder until playing them.
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I mean sure Owlcat's Pathfinder games aren't "bad" but for the price and time investment they require, would I play them again? HELL NOOOO
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>>540764439
>price
Owlcat almost gives it away
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>>540757704
block fire (preferably from a dragon) with a shield and watch yonder maidens FLOCK
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>>540719127
You mean in combat? Yes, her combat barks are good. It's the rest of her voice acting that is utter trash. Goes for all characters imho. Even those who sounds fine in dialogue (like Abelard or Jimmy) sound infinitely better in comabt
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>>540738251
This faggot shit is only happening because anon started flirting with sosiel like a faggot. Gale is an actual rapist that stalks you regardless of your input
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how to make RT combat fun
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>>540764439
Why pay for something that you can get for free?
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>>540758281
>furry gang
>clown gang
>psycho retards gang
Checks out
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RPGs where you reproduce?
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>>540767329
eww, dwarfs are disgusting
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For Marazhai to be alive for Yrliet to sleep with him centuries in the future, that means that you personally have gone out of your way to keep him alive when everyone (including Yrliet) wanted him dead, and babysit his tantrums, and take care of all his problems for him
Yrliet is just following your example
>Elantach gave Marazhai another chance, even though he suffered at the Dark One's hands far more than I ever did
>Maybe I should follow Elantach's example of forgiveness?
>Marazhai is quite tall isn't he
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>>540767912
Don't why he didn't just make dwarf romance options racist who only date dwarves if that's his problem.
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>>540767912
>short, stocky and hairy
>look like 14yo girls
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>>540747940
Yeah she does a little bit doesn't she
It's not her fault, it's the Marazhai writer making him a special boy that everyone is patient with
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>Yrlietards blaming Marz now
Umm did you miss how Yrliet prefers elves over humans. Of course she would fuck him not you.
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>>540751252
The irony lies in the fact that a weapon like a Greatsword is pretty good on a Wizard type character. Hope that makes it clear.
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I'm not gay, I'm aiming to romance Sebille, but not gonna lie Red Prince has me questioning myself
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>>540768021
>it's not me it's you
The lengths yrlcucks will go to to justify one of the worse romance options in RPGs.
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Marazhai knows how to handle silly girls like her
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>>540770225
It's their fault for keeping him around
It's clearly what was going to happen
Just look at this chemistry
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Has any other rpg character mindbroke a small selection of turbo autists as hard as Yrliet
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We must romance Yrliet to be better men.
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>>540770230
It's funny when your companion stats are used for dialogue checks like this. Paints a funny picture
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Turning it into a buttplug
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>companions stats are used for dialogue checks during sex with your romance
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>>540770917
Are they conscious at all? If I replay rogue trader I hope there's some option to desecrate her stone.
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>>540770917
Someone post the pasta
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>>540771234
Abelard, make my wife cum. Now.
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>>540771273
You can give it to deamons i think
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>>540771234
>tfw Abelard has the highest toughness
>tfw your mc is female



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