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Rage Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>540605379
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first for sweaty smex with ivy
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I pick a hero that i played twice, it seems my lane partner doesnt have much clue either
Go against a nigga who organizes entire enemy team and builds and abuses straight up meta builds

Its just not fun!
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third for plapping paige's plump posterior, plowed by a pickaninny (or at least palmraping to it)
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can someone setup a /dlg/ discord for easier inhouses?
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>>540670036
Best I can do is IRC
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>>540670036
People baseded out about discord because it will kill a thread

But now i see its like 2 dudes who dont even play the game just shitpost here same "WILL NEVER BE GOOD" copypastes
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>>540670110
like the cola my grandapa drinks?
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It pisses me off how much art Paige is getting while Geist gets none.
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https://deadlock.pub/
you guys should use this for inhouses, make it more legit
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>>540670214
Yeah sure
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>>540670241
because she's ugly
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Is this guy gonna cry about the inhouses and call it a discord and ask us to go to pisscord forever? Get over it already
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>>540670036
yeah
4vn9ErPrDJ
join
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So what I'm gathering is that even a good support Paige is at the TOTAL Whim of the skill of the rest of the team, i.e. carries??

Man...
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>discord mentioned
it's officially grim
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>>540670565
Anon, every support or medic hero in every game is. Only exception to this was Overwatch 1.
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>>540670717
all the discords found in /vg/ become infested with trannies, metaphorically fellating each other, i swear I have yet to see an exception
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watching these people that are really good at the game just shows me I will never be at their level. I simply do not have the mechanical skill and coordination needed to be good at a game like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBDXvFKEpEw
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>grey talon instabanned in pro
>can deal 2k damage bursts 10 minutes in with very little effort or investment
>AAAAAH BUT HES SO WEAK THOUGH LOOK AT THE WINRATE PLS BUFF YOSHIIIIIII
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>>540670848
How old are you? It's probably not to late.
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>>540670874
Yoshi doesn't really buff nor nerf off of winrates alone. Vindicta and Shiv are good examples of heroes that keep getting nerfed even if their winrate is below 50%.
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>>540670908
I'm 34
it's never been more over for me
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>>540670848
niga u can just play abrams or mo and phantom strike people
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I legit don't understand macro in this game, i get the broad strokes, push the lanes and shadow it to quickly be able to get to an unguarded objective and get the ennemy camps, but besides that it just feels like everyone is kinda running around from camps to camps, doing their own things until someone get a catch that soon turns into a 4v4 or a 5v5.

I've had LoL friends explain to me a bunch of stuff but it often felt like they were rationalizing a posteriori rather than exposing a properly laid out strategy.

So right now every game feels random, i'll pop off one game and picks will just be easy to get, fights will turn out in our favour and i'll get 3 mates on me anytime i'm in trouble, sometimes it's the opposite and i can't find any easy target, any attempt at getting a pick will end up with me getting jumped by 3 ennemies and i'll just have to play passive until we win or lose the game deciding brawl at +25min.
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>>540670985
youre not gonna turn into fucking Messi at that age either but you can still improve at any skill it just takes practice
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>>540671061
Yeah but I don't want to play them. I like playing Yamato.
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>>540670792
well im a straight man so
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>>540671106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwr2WGHEKMA
have u watched this? the macro youre kind of not understanding is what happens more in organized play, best you can do is try to stay efficient
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>>540671106
The map is tiny so you can't really splitpush and force 1v1's against good players. This is because Deadlock allows extreme map mobility (people don't like walking a long time to get across the map) but it comes at the cost of the game being dumbed down, or "random" as you say
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>>540670981
was more of a commentary on how retarded the playerbase is than how retarded yoshi is
>PLSSSS BUFF THIS POWERFUL HERO BECAUSE I SUCK WITH HIM
is like 90% of posts/feedback
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>>540670241
?????
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I went with pawgie dragon dot build and it was pretty fun but i think its wasnt that good but we won!
Lol?
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>>540670981
Shiv needs a rework. His entire kit punishes noobs, but isn't good against players with a brain. Every time I've suggested a Shiv rework, noobs get really mad because

A) they just want his passive to be lower (retarded)\

B) it's Shiv players who don't want their noob stomper gone (they are hard stuck at ritualist despite shitting on arcanist)
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>>540671626
They should just rework him to literally be Axe
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>>540670762
Thats it
I'm playing Gun Paige from now on and NOBODY CAN STOP MEEE
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some of these "professional" builds are unsuitable for pisslow because:
>bad player can't execute the playstyle correctly
>bad lobby doesn't let the playstyle flourish
>not enough activity for the build to be played properly
>build peaks too early and shit lobbies last too long
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>>540671282
Thank you i'll give it a watch
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PLAPPING THE DOORMAN
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>>540671908
They are siblings and they have sex.
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>the enemy carry taking all of the farm and jungle
>me just trying to kill the minions
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STATE YOUR RANK.
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>>540671908
I know this will only encourage you but still felt it needed to be expressed
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>>540672172
i managed to winstreak my way out of seeker 3 into arcanist 3 recently :)
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>>540672172
initiate 1
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>>540672172
I'm playing every character instead of trying to climb.
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>>540672172
ascendant 1 right now
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>kicked from inhouse after playing ONE match
what the hell
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>I'll get some quick matches in before bed
I hope sleep is eternal
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who the fuck is yoshi? I thought this game was Icefrog's
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>>540672172
ritualist 1? idk who fucking cares, its all shades of pisslow
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>>540672496
this nigga going to bed at 10pm... it's over
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>>540672172
Initiate 6
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>>540670241
Learn to draw. Then you can draw all the Geist smut you want.
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>>540672478
You werent fucking picking anon we were waiting on you
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>>540672574
Sleep hygiene is important. Nothing better then having your body wake up feeling refreshed everyday.
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>new
>enemy players seem experienced and proficient
>get stomped
>apparently both teams are initiate
I don't believe this shit at all
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>>540673175
just report them for smurfing
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The black woman of Valve unoriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
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>>540673175
there are initiate plays who arent new
as in hundreds of hours but they are stuck there
and obviously if you are actually new player those guys will beat you
but what can be done

>>540673231
see above
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wtf is sop?
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HOLLY FUCKING SHIT
FORE THAN HALF OF MY GAMES HAVE RAGE QUITTERS
WHAT ARE THE PUNISHMENT FOR THESE NIGGERS
EVERY SAY THERE ARE MULTIPLE OF THEM, ALMOST EVERY FUCKING MATCH
I SIMPLY CANNOT STAND HAVING MORE THAN HALF OF THESE FUCKING MATCHES FILELD WITH QUITTERS.
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>>540673418
surge of power if I had to guess
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>>540673470
I am so fucking angry i can't even type
faggot sinclair died like 10 times to calico and warden and they were mega fed. quit after 5 minutes
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>>540673470
>WHAT ARE THE PUNISHMENT
if you report them eventually they wont be able to queue for hours
and then get low prio
which is a queue for rage quitters only
you have to win to escape it
people get stuck there for reasons you can imagine
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>>540673473
I think you're probably right. I missed that that abbreviates to sop.
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>>540672172
Seeker II
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>>540672743
i literally was nigger
tryna not to do dupes but wtv
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>>540673617
fuck that, they should be banned for days and have to win 5 games in that Shithole.
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>>540673923
happens if they leave enough (and get reported for it; remember to report them)
also if they leave in low prio they get +1
as in then they have to win 2 games then 3 then 4 etc
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hello guys i'm brand new to the video game (only 1 match on b*lly). Do you all have any tips for beginners and/or common newbie traps that are simple to avoid?
I'm already aware of the basics of macro:
>buildings >> kills,
>go for urn/sinners when they spawn
>get midboss after a good fight post 20ish minutes.
Literally anything more advanced, though, i'd appreciate
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>>540671626
rename him stove

new passive: im mad -> rage meter renamed to mad meter. gets debuff resist and armor at max mad meter

new ult: now a lock on but with a generous lock time. more "honest" but if he breaks it off or it gets counter spelled it gets reset to 4-5 CD

fixed
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>>540672172
I have just climbed back to Archon 2 abusing mina and vindicta. My highest was Phantom 5, but the playerbase has gotten much more competent since the removal of ranked queue.
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>>540672172
Ive dropped to Alchemist and im back to Oracle
Rank
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Nerf Mina into the dirt PLEASE
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>>540670241
geist is probably saggy as fuck
also imaigne that hand touching you
brrr
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>>540674160
rename him sean
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>>540674398
idk how strong she is right now but I saw a well farmed drifter health completely deplete after he tried to ambush her
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>>540674540
she pressed 4 and drifter wasn't smart enough to bring silence
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>>540672172
Maybe I'm better off not knowing?
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GG Inhouse but it's 4AM I need to sleep
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Don't blink or you'll miss it!
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And that's probably it, think that's the most inhouses we've ever had in one day.
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i did all i could D:
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>>540674160
how do i counter a stove
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>>540674051
play greedy and safe if you're ahead, play like you must brool 24/7 if you're behind
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Did they recently do something to Holiday's gun?

It used to be really awkward to land headshots because she had really close and hard bullet dropoff, but I just played a game where it's suddenly piss easy.
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>>540675204
It's okay momo. *turns you into a bunny*
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>>540675335
Real?
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>>540675335
No it's the exact same thing, someone also posted the hitbox recently and it's the smallest in the game.
You probably started hitting them after barrel which is pretty much a guaranteed headshot but yes they need to rework that ability.
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is there a mod that gives the gun to mo instead of krill?
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How do I play Victor? I got absolutely slobberknockered by a few of them in a row and I want in on the action.
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is inhouse already over?
I got kicked and proceeded to have the worst pub match ever
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Gonna goon to paige feet.
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>>540674051
you don't necessarily have to do urn when it spawns. it could mean that you're leading your team to a losing fight or a wasted opportunity, unless your team is notably behind in souls.
there's a comeback mechanic where the urn drop-off location will be closest to the base of the team with the lowest networth, if it has 15% less souls than the leading team for the first urn, and 10% for every subsequent urn.
this favored status is indicated by green candles around the urn for the losing team, and red candles for the leading team
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>>540675785
Next game we lost a 5v6 so that was fun :)
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>>540676330
donezo
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>>540676315
just look at their items and copy it? there isn't really a whole lot of nuance to the guy.
do not use the hybrid build it's fucking trash.
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>>540676330
We played like 8 matches today anon, gonna give it a rest.
And again you got kicked because you weren't picking
>But I picked!
Yes but then someone picked the same hero and then we all had to repick, we were waiting on you for like 8 minutes and since you were on spectator the lobby has yet another bug that we literally can't start the match if someone that was on a player slot is not ready on the spectator slot.
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I don't think there's any fixing cultist sacrifice, it's just too broken. Icefrog should just sack the item. Trophy collector is fine.
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>>540676465
Which one is the hybrid build?
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Is there a mod that makes her clap her cheeks with every step she takes
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>>540676486
>8 minutes
literally lying, my bad for wanting to play in an inhouse you guys beg for people to join
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>>540676521
Its really fucking Simple actually

Make it exactly the same as midas.
>Investment
>Doesnt give almost any stats
>Pays off lategame
>You pay price of being technically 3k behind when you but it, for 15 minutes, then you pop off

The fact that it gives a buff is weird, the soul gain alone can use small nerf
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>>540676586
Paige?
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>>540676808
Pawgie.
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>keep getting black screens while spectating
I just wanna watch other people after a day of playing
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>>540676521
If you get rid of the health and ability range bonus then it's fine. Cultist giving fire rate makes sense because every carry cares about fire rate and are the ones that want to farm the jungle anyways.

Giving health and range makes it applicable to a much wider range of heroes than it should. It's just too efficient for the benefits it gives.
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>in one step above brownlo
>get stuck with a victor rushing fleet in a mirage/kelvin lane
>literally exerting negative pressure
>fuck off out of his lane, get sacrifice and just push lanes and keep the shit on cooldown and occasionally ult people
>get rich and have good damage at the end
this truly is the only way to salvage absolute wallflower teammates and you can't convince me otherwise
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>>540677084
Yeah happens to me a lot too

Quick fix is open console type disconnect
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>>540677084
>games that seem chill and promising black screen
>games where retard crybabies piss and moan and throw run through til the end
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>>540677176
what it doesn't tell you is like half the roster is honestly dogshit at farming and it's good to maintain any sort of tempo in a losing game
i like that it exists now for that reason but they could probably just cull the health on it and it'd be a bit more balanced
but i'm a faggot who likes veil walker because it's fun i don't give a shit about pro play
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>>540677226
letting them get stomped and then having them be permanent lane bitch is in fact your best option, yeah
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>>540677226
I'm fine with getting a shitty lane mate. it happens. I know. I understand. I've done it before. but they don't think. they don't just spend the 800 on monster rounds that lets them bounce back fucking easily. and yes, I tell them in chat and they ignore me.
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Are you buying humiliation rite anon?
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>>540676562
the one that buys any gun items at all.
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>>540678494
restorative shot.
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>>540670565
yes that is how support characters work, you trade your agency which tends to not matter because supportcucks are always the worst player in any lobby in any game, so you have a chance at a better player winning the game for you
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>>540678949
<3
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>>540672172
>emissary 6
>all of my heroes have up arrows
>get archon 5 games when i queue
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>have bad start and die once
>soul deficiency
>try to lane to get more souls
>ganked
>try to farm to get more souls
>bullied off
>now i have half of the souls literally everyone else has
great game
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>>540679413
owned lol
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>>540679413
If everyone else managed to have good souls and it was just you that was behind, maybe you're just shit and it's not the game's fault.
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>Put goo man as a high prio among 7 other characters
>Get him 5 games in a row
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>>540672172
High emissary. Every time I manage to climb into Archon I get facefucked.
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Man, I can't wait for bans so I never have to see Lash again.
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>>540679747
Have you tried not being high?
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>>540679624
Same reason why if I put McGinnis as high prio alongside a bunch of other characters I get her every single game, low pick rate.
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>>540670427
thank god, if it keeps the fags from spamming the thread the better.
thank you.
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>>540678280
The game will never teach you to use your health bar as a resource
Or hang near the healing creep when you shoot people
It's just dull
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>>540676676
begging is an understatement
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WHY
DO YOU
PLACE ME
IN HIGH ELO LOBBYS
WITH HEROES
I HAVE LITTLE TO NO GAMES WITH
AND HAVE NOT PLAYED
IN MONTHS
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>>540678494
>humiliation rite
it's worth buying even if you're ahead, it's just good fortitude
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>>540679624
>Mina
>Seven
>Haze
>Infern
This 20 min queue times is probably the most fun Ive had in this game
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>>540679606
thats great. how bout you actually tell me how to come back from a soul deficiency without getting bullied the entire game?
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When an enemy shoots you constantly from afar and doesn't let you play in the lane, such as haze, then you should automatically gain 'choke slam' force pulling haze behind your tower and stunning her until the tower melees her to death. The gun imbalance, on top of the actual ability unbalance and random spirit scaling on attributes being unbalanced, while trapping you in a game for 30+ minutes in a constant snowball effect is just fucking irritating.

Oh do you have a shitty gun? Sorry faggot, you are against a haze who will shoot you forever and you can't win the trade, ever.
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>>540681487
Post a match ID, brokkake.
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what's the good shiv build?
I was following that anime one ^_^, then I tried LIGHTBRINGER's, but then I saw some other streamers using other builds too.
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are there any character that can actually kill outside cucked "team fight" characters?
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>playing characters with shitty guns in an fps
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>>540682374
>fps
wrong thread?
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>>540682040
thats because you're a low elo dog, shitter
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>>540682230
together
Just make sure to actually use spirit snatch, i forget sometimes
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>>540682040
skill issue.
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>>540682040
Just stand somewhere she can't shoot you? The game has right hand shoulder peeking advantage for a reason anon, you can get through all of laning phase without missing a creep and not getting shot if you're smart about it.
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>>540682040
There's a reason every lane has a bunch of random terrain and props that break sightlines at certain angles, anon
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>>540682040
have you considered there are some heroes you just aren't going to win trades against? why would you stand out in the open getting shot against the hero that does more damage the more she shoots you... it's like complaining you can't 1v1 ursa in lane by right clicking him...
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>>540682834
>>540682685
>>540682658
>>540682525
>phantom 5
>low elo

I'm not the best, and I'm aware of cover - but guess what - you can't last hit souls if you are being zoned, then it pushes up to your tower, where they get tower damage in and you still can't trade unless you are a character tier like mo or mina. If you just pop out and trade doing the 'duck and cover' you'll just build up fixation stacks and then get your ass reamed. If you think you'll try to run at her, she'll dagger you and fuck you up or just shoot you from afar with more harass.
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If it's relatively early in the game and I have the money, should I get a tier 4 or a couple tier 3's?
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>>540683070
you're not fucking phantom 5 LMFAO, post statlocker.
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>>540683070
>phantom 5
if that's true maybe /dlg/ is right about ranks not mattering after all
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>>540683070
bro 3/4ths of the roster shits on haze in lane if they don't play like retards, she can't handle short trades at all which is what most of the cast excels at
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>Victor starts steamrolling us all
>they get mid and push
>we somehow defend
>they push barracks
>we somehow defend throne
>we get mid and immediately get team wiped
>we somehow defend them pushing throne
>pick them off in the counter push
>win the game
no wonder the game was so fucked up, it was my first Initiate 4/5 game holy shit
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>>540683401
>nearly 100k damage viper
holy fucking shit
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all 4 of my games today were all of my lanes losing except my lane going 20-0.
what the fuck is this matchmaking and why is it putting all of my team's allocated INT into my lane partner?
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>>540683070
>Anon gets to phantom 5 without looking at his debuffs
Be honest, you got that rank a year ago and have been riding it ever since without getting decayed.
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Haven't played since Shiv was leaked.
>Is Abrams still my strong as fuck tank dude?
>Has the gameplay loop changed at all?
>Is Shiv fun?
>Are early match lane fights still unfun as fuck?
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>>540683401
>vyper with almost 30 kills
>infernus with no gun items
i bet it was a shitshow
that vyper carried you all hard I bet
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6 man stacks should not be able to queue up
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>>540683910
yes but not as much
the map cahnged to 3 lanes of 2 players and the shop changed quite a bit
no
you mean the laning phase? same as always
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>>540683910
yes
not really
yes but only if you like buying decay every single match
this is an abrams problem
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>bebop and vindicta
>mcguiness and viscous
>shiv and kelvin
These are the 3 worst lane combinations i could think of going against. Are there worse ones?
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>>540684993
Kelvin + Doorman
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>>540684993
holliday and warden is a personal trigger for me
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>>540683585
>>540683320
>>540683281
>>540683243
I'm guessing you've never played against a good haze that can aim. I'm not talking about getting shot at 5m and trading close range. I'm talking about her shooting you non-stop from 15m-20m. as in, she doesn't last hit souls, she just shoots from any vantage point and keeps fixation stacks to deal good damage from afar. Only characters like vindicta, seven or mo can lane against her - the sheer damage is too much. You likely won't get killed, but you aren't getting good souls.
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>>540685829
shut the fuck up rtitualist shitter
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>phantom in my high emissary lobby
>stomps everyone, highest damage, highest kills, hightest souls etc
wow....who could have seen that coming? must have been a fluke though. better put these niggers in every single sub archon game you can find! great system yoshi keep it up!
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>IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD
>*TINK TINK TINK TINK TINK TINK TINK*
>THEY KILLED IVY
>*TINK TINK TINK TINK TINK TINK TINK*
>THEY TOOK OUT ABRAMS
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>>540686335
fucking stamina thieving nigger
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I hate how underutilized right clicking is in this game, wow a useless zoom. Should have been an ability instead of the 1 key.
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>>540685829
>and keeps fixation stacks
She literally cannot do that if you have a functioning brain.
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>531
gas all mina players.
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>>540685829
nigga i've literally played against parzelion and he is the 1 trickest 1 trick haze in existence, just don't stand out in the open dumbass
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>10-0 as Doorman in lane
What a fucking CHAMP
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>>540686685
Did better than you tho
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>>540685829
>gets caught in an obvious lie
>keeps replying
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>>540686685
he carried your ass lil nigga
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>>540686715
who
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>>540681487
still no actual advice lul
great game great general
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yea i played with scrimblo blimbo (washed up overwatch pro player nobody has heard of) you need to play with the big jumbos in scrumblo rank to matter ok lil chuddy?
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>>540687175
look on the haze leaderboards since being phantom is so important to your argument
i'll wait.
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>>540687242
I'm not the anon you talked to, yet I will not miss this chance to take a fat shit on overwatch players
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>>540685829
Ive played against Haze aimbots and won.
Lane phase sucks but if position yourself better, coordinate with your team and plan items to fuck her in the ass it you can beat her.
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i've seen those funny haze players that will sacrifice life and limb to keep their fixation stacks up on you.
they are comically easy to beat, just shoot at your troopers out of line of sight of her lol.
there's a billion angles she can take on you but there's also a billion angles to take cover from and just ignore her.
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>>540687293
is he an overwatch pro, i honestly dont know i just know he has the most annoying haze in existence and if i can win that lane this retard can too
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>can't tell if i suck absolute dog ass or if i'm just in lobbies above my punching weight because i often queue with (better) friends
>>540687175
anything below scrunklo rank is shitlow
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>>540687096
you ignored a reply that was clearly going to look at your replay and give you advice
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>>540687096
>actual advice
Don't be bad
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>>540672172
How do you see your rank?
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>>540687096
get in the chair
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>>540687761
Not him but the tutorial doesn't teach you shit.
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>>540672172
seeker 1
i'm only like 20-30 (pvp) matches in though
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>>540679413
AGREED!
Trying to camps or boxes and the dumb fuck Seven runs in and leeches it even though hes like almost 10k richer than anyone else.
>MY BUILD WONT BE ONLINE UNTIL I HIT 43k SOULSSSSS!
Have fun soloing, im just going to hide behind team fights and watch you all die.
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>>540687806
i'm not advocating doing the tutorial, just telling him to learn to play.
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victor is fun
feels kinda gay that the only female character i play is yamato
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>>540687919
the old pfp art of the heroes is so uncanny
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>>540688091
why would that feel gay

they are all jewish black lesbian diversity hires
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>>540688006
Remember that every time someone on your team does something retarded it's your fault.
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>>540688091
>feels kinda gay that the only female character i play is yamato
Geist is kinda similar to Victor and very fun
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>two "support" heroes on my team
>keep pulling me out of winnable fights with rescue beam
>"support" dynamo teleports us mid fight for no reason giving the enemy time to get away
you are actively a detriment to the team. healing means jack shit when you actively ruin fights and do nothing outside of healing either. you are actually griefing by playing this way
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>>540686207
funny, right after posting this it happened again! what a shock. wow if only there was some kind of pattern that suggests maybe...high rank players dominate low rank lobbies? no but the vibe coded matchmaking system would never get anything wrong right? so lets never touch it ever again despite it being a problem for an entire year yup sounds good!
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>>540688250
>dynamo pulls me out of my shiv ult
>it goes on cooldown
>we lose the teamfight
>we lose midboss
>we lose the game
It's been like two months and I still get a little heated thinking about it
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>>540688219
geist is not fun at all
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>>540688514
Nothing more fun than sundering some retard that thinks he's about to kill you.
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>going lane to lane killing everyone by myself
>team is somehow too retarded to defend a single walker
>lose all 3 walkers by 20 minutes despite having double their kills
literally how can people be this worthless? what are they even doing? how are they avoiding every fight and yet also not pushing a wave
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I want to be a waveclear machine who shoves out lanes like nobody's business and pisses people off with how much pressure they can pump out on buildings. Who is the character for me?
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I’ll say one thing as a new player, it’s really fucking hard to learn the jungle in this game. It’s been a week and I’m still finding new shit.
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>>540688756
personally Im more of a fart on the enemy shiv so he dies to bloodletting and disappear onto the top of a building kind of guy
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>>540688832
It's all going to be completely changed soon btw
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>>540688832
Wait until they add biodiversity
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>>540688832
honestly just ignore the jungle , only go for the sinners
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>>540686781
>>540686849
>t. Initiates
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>>540688939
I would mock your rank but I genuinely have never seen it before kek
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>hear GT ult whizz by
>fight or flight instincts immediately kick in
>double check map
>forgot that GT was on our team
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>>540686685
>left your fps in
haha ur poor only 60
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>>540688091
victor isnt fun at all. you can barely interact with another character for the first 30 mins
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I want to /be/ mina
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>>540689121
>xhe doesn't cap dashboard fps
shiggy
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>>540688514
:( I don't get why nobody likes her. Bottom 10 pickrate despite strong lane, good damage, and tankiness

>>540688756
>I WANT YOUR SOUL
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I really appreciate that this game doesn't ugly fresnel team colour shaders.
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is Torment Pulse good on Shiv?
I can't seem to top damage without it, but it's only in a few of the less popular builds.
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>>540688091
Only women and retarded coomers care about the gender of the character.
Never forget the Riot survey where they openly said that only their female playerbase cared about if the hero they were playing was a woman or a man.
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Really fun match where 10/12 niggas bought veil walker. god what a stupid item.
Also fuck cultist sacrifice what a gay ass item. fuck you.
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>>540689415
dont get me wrong, shes a strong, solid character, but I think what I find boring about her is her abilities are something you constantly use so she sort of chips away at people with them constantly, so I never got dopamine for landing them, ult is also kind of unexciting to use
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Mina Ha, rise up and take what you deserve
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>>540689627
>SOMEONE KILL THAT VAMPIRE BRAT
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>>540689110
i always panic the first time my lanemate bebop puts a bomb on me
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>>540684993
people always say shiv kelvin are busted, but why
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>>540689940
because if you get trapped in a dome with shiv he is literally thanos
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Is it bad that I will never play Yamato until they give her a new model, shes so fucking hideous to look at. Please tell me she'll get a bew one soon, I hate her design so much.
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>>540689818
>YEEESSS VINDICTA, PICK THEM OFF ONE BY ONE
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>>540688757
lmao it happened again 13 minute walker gone cause people just dont fucking bother playing lanes
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>>540690237
Just download a mod
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>>540690237
why dont you just mod her to something else in the meantime if its such a dealbreaker and you want to play her
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>>540689321
>Mina/Paige won't attract the trannies guys
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>>540677018
when will they add doggirl paige skin
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>>540690610
When you pay me for it.
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>>540690510
I'm sorry to tell you they were already here. No life games attract no life individuals.
>>540690237
Yamato being ugly is great it helps offset all the zero skill katanafags from playing her and doing dogshit. Similar to what happens with Mina where godawful people that shouldn't touch her play her because she's hot. It's the same thing with all the sniper and katanafag heroes in other games.
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>>540689627
>The Doorman has begun his great work
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>>540690610
here's your doggirl Lash, bro
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>>540674426
if she's saggy then you owe her your life force
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>>540689516
you say that but then when the protagonist of a game is le wooman gamers freak the fuck out unless her tits are out and her booty be swangin
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>Get faggot Eternus player on my team
>Literally all he does is whine and bitch all game while
His laner swapped and he didn't follow them and he still lost lane, lmao.
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Is the dlg discord worth joining? Or will it just exist and not be used at all?
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>>540691006
It doesn't seem to be infested with troons yet so I'd say so
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>>540691006
>the inhouses aren't shit guys!
>it won't devolve into a discord tranny clique
LMAOOO
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>>540691006
well pack it up, general will be dead within a week
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i'm not in the discord but at least it makes sense they have one since it's the only way to organize inhouses because there isn't a fucking in-game lobby chat.
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>>540691050
The vast majority of the population just uses Discord to game with their friends I never understood why people on this site think if they'll join they'll get turned into trannies. Maybe you're all closeted homos?
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>>540691280
I'm a massive homo but I'll join ig.
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>>540691346
4vn9ErPrDJ
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I never actually looked at Billy's abilities before blasted is so stacked and broken what the actual fuck. Why do people call this hero bad?
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>>540691280
within 10 seconds of joining official deadlock i saw people with their HRT anniversary and hrt tags
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>>540691280
Friendcords are whatever. Hobby discords invariably turn into circlejerks.
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>>540691612
i don't think anyone calls him bad.
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>>540691673
Trannies are disgusting narcissists and post their shit in irrelevant spaces, everything is poisoned by them, even this site has a board dedicated to troons. Doesn't mean if you use an application you're going to become a tranny. If the /dlg/ server becomes tranny central I will just press the leave server button and continue playing with my friends, simple as.
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>>540691006
It's gonna be only to set up shit and will be promptly abandoned once we get lobby chat, don't get too comfortable.
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>>540691612
he's extremely disgusting with siphon
he steals hp no matter what lmao
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>>540691612
he's probably the best of the 6 new heroes added besides mina
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Item that lets you ignore 1 parry every 2 minutes or something.
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>>540692001
>item that lets me bypass counterplay
how about you get good and bait the parry, shitter.
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>>540691612
i feel like it's just the retards who build melee and don't buy unstoppable. or spirit billy. have you ever played with a spirit billy? most useless fucking player in the game
>>540691673
>>540691793
grow up
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>>540691793
this upsets you far more than it should.
>inb4 you double down and accuse me of being One Of Them
it just doesn't seem healthy to get this mad over something trivial like a gay flag in a bio or whatever. normal people just ignore it instead of fixating on queers like you do.

>>540692001
mix up your melee timings brother. it ain't hard. parry doesn't need an itemization counter because it already has a built in counter that if they miss it they stand there inactionable
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>>540691280
you know how in classic wow you seem the same behavior from people on repeat, the same drama but different people, the same roster//loot//ego issues? its like that.

This will be the sixth version
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>>540692001
Good news! There's one. It's called Unstoppable.
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how do people instantly dash + slide without any animation or delay for their shooting? anytime i try there is a noticeable delay before i can shoot
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>>540692183
you can act much sooner after an air dash. they're jumping and immediately air dashing.
start doing it it's a good habit.
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>>540692050
Do you want people to point out counter-counter build options like slow resistance, CC & debuff resistance, and cleanse?
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>>540692504
the idea is that if you're forcing their carry to invest into all of that, you're stopping them from DPS snowballing
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>>540692504
Those mechanics would be more interesting if there were tools to skillfully avoid that CC, like if counterspell was a universal mechanic that came with a 'counter-state' where you take more damage if you fail to parry anything
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when do I buy bkb?
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>>540692650
when you find the right general, retarded frogtranny tourist.
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>>540692689
wise guy, eh?
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>>540692629
>counterspell was a universal mechanic

no. cooldowns would be cut in half to compensate.
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>>540692789
A million things would need to be rebalanced for it to make any sense, the point is that skillful execution as counterplay is more interesting than itemizing as counterplay.
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>>540692878
you have a movement system with a billion situational techs available and a bunch of other variables and mechanics. and itemization promotes real strategy
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I love knowing my character pick makes someone die inside when they see they’re laning against me.
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>>540692629
LMAO just play something else this is so retarded

even counterspell shouldnt exist
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>>540692978
>you have a movement system with a billion situational techs available
And this is the best thing about the game. More depth is good. You have to understand that executional things like movement compound dozens of interesting decisions every split-second. I think melee and parry deserve more depth to them. Would make the game way more fun and difficult.
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>>540692629
counterspell is a universal mechanic.
you just have to pay 6400 souls to unlock it.
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>>540693362
>6400
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>want to play something that's not a gun carry
>nobody else wants to play lane janitor
Game is hard.
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>>540692983
i'm so terrified of when we inevitably move into the standard moba "everything your character does gets completely negated by your lane opponent's character" problem.
i already get physically ill when i see a warden/kelvin duo.

>>540693362
counterspell is 3.2k ya goof
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>enemy is on 50 hp and you're on 500 hp
>the only win condition for them is if you go for a melee and they parry you
>you melee and get parried
>die
why are so many people like this in lane for fucks sake just reload your gun
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Playing on OCE is wild man
>Random Chinks thrown in sometimes
>The kind of shit talk that would make russians blush
>Low pop means you get some extra fucked matchmaking
>Funny builds
>Seen one guy in a few matches open with the line "Sex with Ivy"
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>>540693480
people can't aim. if they did, they wouldn't be playing a moba.
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>>540692369
ty, they were doing it so fast i didnt even realize that was happening
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I can't tell if this build is any good

I slink around like a rat, helping the team with kills if it's closeby but otherwise waiting to kill towers. That's it.

One game it felt like I couldn't accomplish anything. This game I got 2 walkers, 4 base guardians, and a shrine through rattery
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>>540693383
>>540693442
i've never actually bought counterspell.
i just buy spirit res if spirit damage becomes a problem.
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>>540691673
what does hat have to do with people playing games on discord with their friends?
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I love playing against Mina and Infernus, I like not being able to play the lane simply because.
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i just realized inhibitor turns people grey when you build it up on them, always wondered why that was happening to people i was shooting.
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>>540693642
spirit res is also 3.2k
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>>540684993
>Doorman gets 2 300 nuke bells at 4k souls
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>>540693629
Also, it feels like gun wraith has a cap on its usefulness. Once I get lucky shot built out I annihilate objectives so it seems like lategame you should just go back to spirit so your teamfight isn't total dog.
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>>540693642
>spirit res if spirit damage becomes a problem.
Spirit res isn't going to save you from a Lash ulting you into his entire team.
or prevent a yamato fully charged 1
or a seven stun
or a giest ult
etc etc
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does anyone know if "toxic queue" a real thing or just cognitive bias?
when i was playing by myself i feel like i had real friendly lanes, GLHF every match, talking to the enemy about our days during downtime, etc.
after new character update i start playing with my ragebait LoL friends and suddenly the opposition is throwing slurs, threatening rape, quitting after a bad lane, t-bagging after getting dominated, etc.

i also lost a ton of rank so maybe it's just my MMR
>Captcha: YAYYH
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glue eater magnets
>haze
>victor
>billy
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>>540694140
group queue is apparently an impossible conundrum that must result in nightmare games
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>>540694062
i just dodge those
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>watch a hybrid victor kill a full HP 46k Abrams in literally half a second
holy fucking shit this character is not balanced
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>>540694325
builds? i presume the abrams had no spirit resist
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I play Mina with programming socks
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>>540694325
footage?
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>>540694492
footage?
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>>540694405
>implying it was fucking spirit
LMAO
>>540694514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfupakCufDw&t=28s
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>>540694492
This is okay as long as you aren't fat or diapered
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the moment the discord gets created this thread turns into this shit
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>>540694771
Well i cant join because im a tranny and they'll kick me so you'll have to deal with me here
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>>540694492
Thats okay as long as youre fat and diapered
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what if instead of Bebop he was called Beatbox and he was a scatman
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>>540694771
it's a universal truth that discords ruin generals
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>>540693480
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>>540694771
it's already created, bro.
this is what happens when you faggots encourage this shit.
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>>540688826
Mikuginnis
Wraith
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>>540695239
fomo is too real
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>>540684993
People shit on early Victor but I ran into an utter cancer Victor-Doorman pair that were constantly harassing us under and behind tower, on our shop, etc, with no real way to punish them.
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i opened a bottle of champagne like a retard
should i play deadlock or something else like dota or cs
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>>540694663
admittedly, burst fire + close quarters + berserker + frenzy + spiritual overflow + mercurial magnum + spiritual tempo + parry + beaming headshots.

a wraith or infernus coulda done this, except they would have died to the wall slam & disarm
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Do any of you guys queue with every hero in your roster?
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>>540696003
I 0 star heroes I didn't like.
I 1 star heroes I like.
I 2 star hero[es] I'm learning
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Wow dead game. dead general, dead faggot just delete this thread and move on
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>Before posts were all just inhouse jerking
>Discord made so the inhouse jerking stops
>Now there's just gonna be posts bitching about Discord trannies
Nothing was solved kek
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>>540696191
You purposefully go out of your way to type that. Why don't (You) move on instead?
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>>540696003
Me.
I'll also prio Ivy because she's Jack of All-Trades
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He's quickly becoming my favorite
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>>540696243
I miss my wife
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thinking about drawing something
make a request and i'll draw if it's a good one
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>>540694663
Most broken thing about this character is how when he uses the fart aura the camera pans back actually allowing him to see anything at all.
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We're making fun of you in the /dlg/ discord server
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>MY TEAM IS HOLDING ME BACK
meanwhile...

https://youtu.be/WnKQokO5WJs
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>>540696615
yamato winding down after a long day, or hunched tired DEAD with a cup of coffee/tea
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>>540696724
this except the 5 retards in your team are initiates and at least 4 people in the enemy team are phantom or above
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>>540691612
>try to melee
>get parried
>die
this is why people say billy sucks
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>>540696615
shiv doing the sonic adventure 1 pose
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I didn't think I'd like her much since she's black but Wraith is actually pretty fun to play and when I looked at her closer she's pretty hot for an African American.
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I have won 4 games that I shouldn't have and I fear what's gonna happen if I queue another.
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>>540696685
oh no I'm gonna kill myself :(
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>ended a match with 21 kills and 94 stacks on nox nostra
now if only i knew how to get out of seeker 2 in asia servers
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>THE DOORMAN HAS BEGUN HIS GREATWORK
>press tab
>0/7/11
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>>540697324
That's why you play Billy, get up close, and wait until they parry instinctively (because they will) then beat the shit out of them AFTER the blue is GONE. If you need more bullets in your mag just use your 1.
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>>540697941
jokes on you I don't even remember what I bound parry to



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