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White Palace Edition

Store links:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksong
https://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_Knight

Interactive Map:
https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloom
Game Save Analyzer / Tacker:
https://silksong-completionist.com/

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>>540561202
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>>540722702
first for my wife
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I just beat the game 100%. I used architect build for final boss , using some reddit guy strat with the blue vials and spamming nails and fly bots and floating on the right side. Still took ton of tries and even reset save to get my shards back.
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flea>grub
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Garmond and Zaza. It ain't fuckin' right what went down.
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>craw summons can hit you for 1 damage if you get off the bench fast
neat
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>>540723330
he zanzied his last bou
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>>540723386
The spear thing also don't despawn across game launches until you manually hit it with your needle.
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I'm in Act 3 and I've not seen that lady who was hiding dressed as a bush / stick in early Act 1 ever again.
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>>540723330
Zanzibart...forgive me...
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>>540723814
You didn't save her from Styx?
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>>540724327
I... dunno who that is. I've not been in Act 3 that long.
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>>540724509
You had to do it before Act 3
I'm just busting your balls, she's in Act 3
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>>540723814
Gilly. Check the interactive map. Pops up a few more times, and with a wish.
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Trying to win honestly a steel soul, and partially speedrunning while doing so, defeated morrowing after dying twice to him, now I need to find again sister splinter to then kill Widow and get through the mist.
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They should've let us sex GMS
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>>540725608
What's with Hornet's head in the bottom left?
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>>540725808
she's looking up and her eyes are popping out cartoonishly at the sight of the gargantuan breasts in front of her
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Finally 100% beat the game.
Oyakodon with GMS and Lace
That is all.
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Reaper looks so cool
Kinda wish it wasnt ass
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>>540723330
I don't know, I didn't feel anything. I think the "jolly knight meets a horrible fate" trope has been done a few too many times in these games already. I was expecting it.
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>shakra and last judge have exactly the same voice
What's the deep lore here?
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>playing the first game
>game all my money to the bank
>go back there
>the woman is gone
>attack the sign
>it falls down
KEK did she actually run away?
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>>540728515
It's a scam yes
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>>540727892
curious why it's so prevalent, perhaps it mirrors the child in all of us dying to the seriousness of this world
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>>540728874
well it was cheat engine money anyway i don't care
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>>540728515
I forgot that was a thing.
I guess in hindsight we should have expected boobytrapped and fake benches
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>>540728515
you can find her in a hot spring in city of tears, smack her around and get 1.5x of what you deposited
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>>540731783
i'm in the city now i'm sure i will run into her. thanks!
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>>540723017
Did the same thing, only time in the game I used architect and blue vials. I just had enough of that bullshit fight.
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>>540725608
>No one inPharloom could knock her up
If only Pale King was here...
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>>540733184
If only I was there...
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Widow from last thread
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fractured mask is such an insane get out of jail free card in steel soul
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>>540733551
WOAH momma
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>>540733551
I'd make her a former widow.
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>>540725608
Hornet should've sexed the original spider. Total victory over her woman child aunt
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>>540736568
Who did she sex instead of her
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>>540733664
TEAM CHERRYYY

where is the Beast Crest blue tool slots??
How is it possible to have the most beastly zone selling the most beastly tool and it doesn't fit my crest?
Betrayal
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>>540733551
Are you the drawfag?
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being cursed should put you at 5 hp
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does this start act3? I've yet to beat clear the mist lol
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>>540739146
Yes
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>>540739204
For being one off places you can only visit once, Verdania and Choral Tower were really cool.
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>>540739204
Wouldn't it be lovely if Act 1-2 and Act 3 were reversed? You start in a ruin with everyone depressed, and end in a flourishing kingdom.
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I found Shakra and I got the mask shard, once I kill the fat fuck is there any reason to stick around in bilewater or can I fuck off and never come back to this shithole?
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>>540738265
Maybe
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>>540739678
Did you find Weavenest Murglin? It have two layers of secrets.
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Idiot
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>>540739204
is this cut content? I don't recall that area looking like that
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>>540740865
It's Wormways entrance with Verdania skin. From early trailer.
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>>540740865
It's from the trailer like 5 or so years ago, that trailer has quite a few things that either changed or got completely cut.
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In Far Fields, in the area that has the shop/bench hut, there's a gold gate to the far right. How do I get into there? I've checked all the right-handed walls, played my Needolin, etc., but can't figure it out. I feel like I'm missing something very obvious.
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>>540741306
secret entrance in the fast travel room
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>>540741415
Damn, all the way down there? Thanks man.
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>>540739861
Would you be willing to do Carmelita? Though there is sti that other request from last thread for the flying pilgrim.
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so how come the Greyroot specifically preys on Hornet and not say , Lace or anyone more powerful than the average Joe?
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>>540742443
why wouldn't she want to pray on hornet?
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>>540742443
The greyroot preyed on plenty of average joes. The dude in bellhart says pilgrims used to show up all the time. Whoever brings one of the screaming children gets implanted.
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>>540742286
Carmelita is already pretty much humanoid desu, she's the most human-like bug (body shape-wise) in the entire game imo
At best I could give her an animoo face but she's already well defined with her sleepy closed eyes
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>>540744497
Now that you say that, she does look pretty human (the ants in general kind of do). I think pinstress and maybe twelfth architect also are in that category. Though I am here for the big tits.
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>>540737508
Literally everybody
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>>540739204
I wish this was what Silksong looked like. Too many cold dark caves, swampy hellscapes and industrial/urban areas, not enough comfy forest.
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>>540739526
that's not the dark souls spirit
please understand, if the story is not depressing it's not a serious story
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thinking of all the content we macfucking lost
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>>540748056
cut content goes in the dlc
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>>540748383
It's in there somewhere. Go have a look.
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>>540748330
now you are just making me exited
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>>540748330
Yeah, pretty much. Especially since most cut content fits into the mold of "memory location you visit with the sneedolin"
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Strange creature interpretation...
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>>540749296
i like artists who really lean into the arthropod angle
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>>540749679
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>>540748826
>dreamolin
>have to do it in act 3
Would be a nice break from the voidslop
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Fuck you.
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>>540750282
buggin it up
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ugh, did i get like way better at the game, or is tormented trobbio easier than trobbio?
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Crust Kang's theme is severely underrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp8xVVwsfoc
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Bro the gauntlets in the coral memory are fucking my ass hard, I fucking despise flying enemies on tiny arenas where you can't really bait them into following you so fucking much
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>>540729629
>find a bench sign
>go to the room
>find a bench but a boss is sitting on it
yeah
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does the knight get the ability to run later? i need to go faster
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>>540751351
He's definitely not easier. He's one of the last fucking things I did before completing the game, because I didn't want to deal with his random bullshit,
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Craws invited me to party
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Seth sucks dick
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Fuck
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Which area is adjacent to the spooky ghost area again? I'm doing clean up at the end of Act 2 and I briefly remember being in there but I can't see anything on my map.
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>>540753001
Sinner's Road and Waterpark Funtown
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>>540752517
OG trobbio raped me, yet i beat tormented trobbio on my third try without tools. guess i got good.
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>>540753001
It's part of Bilewater
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>I missed second sentinel
god dammit. i'm in act 3 now. does this mean mean i'm locked out of earning the hunter's memento for the achievement? RIP
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>>540752398
no, you get a dash though
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>>540753813
No, you can wake Second Sentinal in Act 3. I even got its duel quest in Act 3.
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>>540754152
that sucks
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>>540752398
No. Just a dash. You do get a charm at some point that increases your walk speed. But not by a lot
If you're coming from Silksong, the Knight is INCREDIBLY slow
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Max upgraded Knight vs max upgraded Hornet, who would win?
Hornet has all those tools and special crest moves and shit but Knight has ghost dash, that's big
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Game theory: Hornet died in the cage on the way to Pharloom, and Silksong was a fading dream as her brain sputtered out
Points in favor: She doesn't die in game, just wakes up on a bench
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>>540756094
anons say wandered is the hk crest but hk sword range is either massive or the knight is too small in comparison, another big nerf for ss
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>>540755813
i just got the super dash. i will cope with it
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>>540756128
but... how come she's alive in hk1 then???
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>>540756696
Oh look, it's this retard again.
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>the super dash continues even if you go through a door with it
that's fucking cool
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It'll be obvious when I can get the last two, right? No spoilies, please.
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I hate how some parts of the game like First Sinner, Phantom and the very end of Act 3 are high tier kino while others feel like this game got made by some C tier jeet studio trying to be HK. Looking at all those gauntlet rooms and especially the coral tower.

Just throwing random trash mobs towards your face is the laziest way to design combat encounters. Made me feel like i am back playing old shitty MMOs
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>>540758553
If you explore, you'll find them eventually.
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>>540758553
Yes
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>>540744497
Which character you think would be the most annoying to draw?
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>>540758829
Thanky.

>>540758825
I mean. I'm lacking Jordans and a whip, right now. But thank you.
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10x worse than Groal, only redeemed by not having a gauntlet
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>>540744497
I would suggest Lord of Shades wife, but that might be too humanish and not really silksong.
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>>540739526
Act 4 will be the epilogue that lets you restore Pharloom
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>there is input reading whenever you try to heal in the original game
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>>540760652
>It changes into a god game.
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>>540760853
My guess is that you'll travel into the memories of old regions as they were before the citadel(cut content) in order to restore them to their former glory.
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>>540748383
Not near the bench. Not near the spool fragment. It's in another place.
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>>540760765
Learn to interrupt your own heal
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>>540758553
Their names give you a hint of where they might be, you'll know when you reach those areas
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How do I duplicate my saves so I can have one saved and ready for the cursed ending for the achievement?
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>>540762687
Don't have to duplicate nothing. Just don't go into act 3 until you've done the other 2 endings, das it.
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>>540734675
Via what methods?
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>>540758894
No idea, since TC's artstyle is so simple and straightforward (in a good way) you have a ton of leeway with their stuff when you bolt anime booba on top of it. Carmelita isn't "hard", she's just already very human.
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>>540764015
I'd imagine the more animalistic bugs like the pharlids or drapemites might present a bit of a challenge to convey what they are.
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>>540764270
I'd just draw them as tarded sharkteeth lolis with knives tbhonest
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>>540763829
Oh, it lets me continue my run even if I finish an Act 2 ending?
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>>540765023
Yeah
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Finally beat the game so I can come here, but I don't know what to do...It's actually over...
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>>540766272
Now beat Steel Soul and do the Steel Soul exclusive content.
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>>540765023
hollow knight and silksong both let you keep playing after beating the game
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so is the knight just permanently in void hell? I wanna save him :(
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>>540766862
To be fair, that's probably the best scenario for him.
It was either:
>Be locked up for all eternity, assuming the Radiance doesn't take him over
>Literally fucking die
>Become the God of the void
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>>540725608
granny silk is so hot, bros
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>>540767332
You people know her title is Grand Mother Silk, not Grandmother Silk, right?
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>>540752398
you get an ability in crystal peak that's the closest thing to fast traversal over a long area (as long as you have an unobstructed pat
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>>540767458
yeah but by calling her granny, i can imagine her giving me a nursing handjob with a plate of chocolate chip cookies
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Aight I'm gonna kill a fat cunt in the swamp wish me luck
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>>540767668
godspeed
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>>540767668
the dirty water is your friend
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whats his fucking endgame
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>>540767987
forgot the pic
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>>540725808
she's doing looney tunes awooga eyes
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>>540767668
YOU AND WHAT ARMY?
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>>540767987
Hollow Knight IN SPACE.
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>>540768638
>next game/dlc
>Lovecraftian space shit
kino
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>>540768638
>>540768696
much like how you can make the underground look underwater (fog canyon/coral forest) you can make it look like space
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Were there any more of these?
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>>540769063
this is just first sinner and broodmother
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>found a Silksong letsplayer (fightingcowboy) who modded his game to remove double damage
Genuinely how do you live with yourself if you suck that bad?
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>>540768461
But anon that text is from Death's Door
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i wonder how long it'll take for the randomizer to come out
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>>540769198
>fightingcowboy
I forgot what the controversy with this guy was but I know there was one
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I don't really get the complaints about the Groal runback
The runback itself is a fairly simple pogo section and some easy to dodge mobs, and the gauntlet before the boss is pretty easy and by the time it ends you should have plenty of silk for a heal if you need it before the guy shows up
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>>540762621
It feels obvious that the pickled muckmaggot is in Bilewater, but I'm guessing it's somewhere where I need Jordans to reach it.
The crustnut is a full mystery, probably equally inaccessible until I get Jordans.
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>>540769572
It took me six hours and 77 attempts.
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>>540769192
First Sinner and Savage Beastfly*
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Big lad killed
Yes I spammed tools like a bitch, I didn't actually beat him I know
>>540770414
it's not in bilewater, no
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*blocks your path*
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>>540769063
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>>540770876
There are two bosses like the one on the right, out of like 40 bosses.
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>>540770876
*throws poison cogflies*
its just that shrimple
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>>540771164
There's a lot more that meet all but one of the criteria.
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>>540770876
bullshit bosses get bullshit cheese in response
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mfw I see videos of people doing bilewater and other wall cling-heavy platforming areas without ascendant grip
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>>540771410
Broodmother meets it
I'm going to be extremely generous and say Savage Beastfly and Groal meet it. Who else? Thats only 3.
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every act 3 boss has been very unfun so far
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>>540771616
Nyleth, Lugoli, The Unraveled
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>>540771982
Nyleth and Lugoli dont summon minions. Nyleth in particular is a huge stretch. I dont remember if Unraveled summons minions either, I thought it just tossed bodies out.
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>>540772243
Unraveled does, but it's more of an intermission gauntlet during the fight
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>>540771975
Crust King dude is fun
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>>540772243
That's why I said all but one of the criteria. And Unraveled definitely does summon.
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Where do the fleas go after the citadel gate
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>>540772243
there's a few before the fight but not a real gauntlet, then he summons more at phase 2. none while he's on screen though so I don't think it counts
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>>540771975
>Bell Eater is fine
>TT is fun
>Khan is easy but fun
>Seth is fun
>Nyleth is fun
>CD are easy but fun
>Karmelita is fun
>LL is fun
Cant say I agree. A couple side bosses were kinda mid but I dont recall anything actually bad outside of Zalgo.
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>>540772401
Heaven
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>>540769289
I beat Death's Door and I don't remember this.
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>>540772401
>He didn't travel with them
Anon... You weren't there to save them...
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>>540771982
nyleth is kino
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>>540772825
If you wait until act 3 does the massive flea become voided?
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>>540770414
>muckmaggot
Sinners road
>crustnut
Go left
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>>540772981
Would have seemed mid if it hadn't been preceded by Seth.
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>>540772494
>>540772981
wall clinging makes my hands cramp and Seth teleports too much
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>can't walk around the pharloom after getting rid of the void
gay
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>>540773310
The haunting and void strands would be gone, so they'd have to make up some new excuse for why enemies are hostile, and they only had seven years to work on it.
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>>540773297
Use the grip tool, its a game changer. Seth's teleports arent too bad to deal with once you know his patterns.
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>>540773310
Honestly the most disappointing thing. Genuinely made me not want to 100% the game.
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>>540773553
>Only the wildlife are hostile
>Overall chill experience
I'd unironically love it. Act 4 is probably going to be the Steel Assassins though.
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>>540773067
You can't go to 3 without them all
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>>540773310
You expected them to make a postgame act 4 with no enemies? Before they even start the dlc content that you would be locked out of? What? Hollow Knight wasnt like that.

>>540773763
I'm pretty sure you can, you just need to move the fleas.
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>>540772779
Well it's one of the like 5 main bosses man
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>>540773670
>Use the grip tool
I do, you still have to hold a direction into the wall to keep from sliding which is the problem. I might be better off just hopping in place
cleared them both today so it's fine, but I did not enjoy it
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No seriously where the fuck are those dumb fleas
Everywhere I check says the caravan moves to the lake in the sewer ducts once you've found 22 fleas, and I have 22 but they're not there
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>>540774379
You found the Lake too right
And maybe did Shakra's wish
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>>540773073
I assume I need Jordans for that room underneath the too eating roach guts.
I don't need whip? I have enough time to float over if I time it right?
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>>540774464
Yes I found the lake long ago
Haven't done shakra's wish yet no
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>>540774379
You have to talk to them first so they move.
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>>540774730
I talked to them last at the citadel gate ages ago
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>>540773849
>postgame act 4 with no enemies?
of course not, but being able to interact with the npcs you just saved would've been some nice fluff dude
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>>540774623
based silk skill user
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>>540774831
It would be nice but I can only think of a handful of games in existence that do that, and it would mesh poorly for when they eventually release more content. Starting you before the final boss is kinda the expected standard.
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>>540774803
Did you find the giant flea?
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>>540775161
I found the one in ducts that sells you flea locations
Currently looking for the spa one in greymoor
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>>540775621
Nevermind apparently I already got that guy
Going to the memorium then, I had to go there anyway to find the merchant too
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>>540750465
Lol
You got trolled, didnt you anon?
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so who's discarded shell is in the Queen's garden, it can't be PK since his is over by the coliseum of fools right?
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>>540777618
The bug White Lady parasitisized to be born.
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>>540777732
huh
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Where's all this clean water coming from
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What crest did you like using the most on your first playthrough?
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>>540778590
This is shockingly low effort
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What's the deal with people claiming to have completion rates over 100%? Am I being trolled? I swear I saw some posts detailing the compeltion % criteria and it was something like 51% for tools and 49% basically everything else.
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>>540778395
Locationwise, probably the surface.

>>540778602
Hunter because I'm a basic bitch, but I have since taken the Shaman pill. I want to try getting Witch early and using that next time I play.
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>>540778590
could've at least edited the loli to be sherma
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>>540778590
Could have at least edited Lace or Sherma in place of the child gf.
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>>540778602
Hunter, I love unga-ing my way out of everything.

I did bust out Reaper for some fights against floating enemies like Trobbio 2 and the Bilewater guy, it makes those kinds of fights so MUCH less annoying.

I desperately tried to make Beast work, but the combo of the whole lifesteal bind being not worth the risk and trouble + being absolute ass for platforming just killed it for me, and it made me extremely sad.

I got Witch way too late to seriously try it out and didn't really care for Shaman or Architect.
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Isn't this asshole supposed to give me a house? I've done all the steps listed in the wiki
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>>540779990
I think it's a wish on the board.
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I'm about done with Act 2 and just now found out about the vesticrest. I feel like I just gimped myself for 10+ hours.
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>>540780210
Well the board is empty
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The slog for hunters memento begins. Booooring
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I found all the fleas. When do I get the flea minigame?
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>>540778590
>not putting lace or sherma on the gf
>not editing the two points on the right above the gf
1/10
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>>540781013
Honestly I didn't find it that bad, I just had to look up a couple of weird enemies I was completely missing, and of course they were all bullshit like the enviromental hazard worms in Blasting Sands.

The worst part was honestly everything related to wormways, especially the parasite thingies that jump you. I'd suggest starting with that, the rest of it will be mostly chill.
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>>540781287
Check the wishboard in Bellhart, there should be one wish from Fleamaster.
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>>540780804
>he didn't go to the weaver doors immediately upon getting the needolin to test out if that opens them
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So evidently the only reason all those pilgrims are able to reach the citadel is that Hornet's murdered and destroyed every living, undead, mechanical, organic and inorganic creature and cleared the way for everyone, right?
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>>540781013
I think I got mine done with like an hour or so of effort, just put on a podcast and its comfy.
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>>540781916
We see that Sherma's song stops an enemy cold so its likely that any of them who sing could make it through peacefully. But yeah Hornet probably helped since nobody was getting by Last Judge or Phantom.
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>>540781916
2/3 settlements on the map are explicitly created because hornet murdered her way there
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>about 60 hours in and still haven't even challenged the boss of act 2
am I very slow and bad or is this normal
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>>540782337
It took me 80 hours to even get to act 3 because I explored the entire map
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>>540781760
Weird, I don't see anything there. Maybe it's an Act 3 thing?
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Uploaded the wrong pic award goes to me ig
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>>540748330
God I fucking hope so
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I still wish the mask culture of the world was better explained why do most bugs wear them but some seem not to? Is it a religious practice? Some of Hornet and the mask makers dialog implies wearing on ehas an erfect on the midn but in what way and why?
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is it explained why hornets mom doesn't look like the usual weaver? also pretty crazy that hornet gets to be technically related to TWO pale beings.
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>>540779064
Hollow Knight goes to 112%, you might be confusing it with that.
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>>540785668
It's not just the culture.
How does it all work logistically and mechanically?
Like, do the Mask Makers know a bug will hatch and start working on the mask somehow knowing what the child will look like?
Do the Masks just appear magically on the bug? Is it in a small parcel handed to parents by some mystical courier?
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>>540786029
>why hornets mom doesn't look like the usual weaver?
she's wearing a mask
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I really hate 2 mask contact damage.
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>>540786580
Skill issue
Git Gud
2 mask contact damage forces you to learn positioning and is necessary to filter out skillets
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>>540786173
In Hollow Knight there is a creepy bug making a shitload of masks and just chucking them into a pile.
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>>540786580
Stop running into shit then
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>>540786580
Uninstall the game dumbass. You should not be taking contact damage by the time of lost lace.
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>>540786939
>>540786803
>don't use clawline
>don't use sprint
>use wanderers
That's how I beat the game. Never had any issue with contact damage.
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>>540787182
>don't use clawline
Clawline is actually terrible for the final boss because when she blocks an attack, Hornet will clip through and take contact damage. I don't know if this is intentional or not, as every other boss causes Hornet to bounce off if clawline is blocked.
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>>540786580
don't bump into enemies then
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>>540786580
I think 5 masks of contact damage is more than fair by act 3. Git gud and kys you shitter.
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>>540781013
The worst part about Hunter's is having to climb to the surface for the last 4
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>>540786580
>>540781013
git gud and stop whining
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>>540786939
>>540786714
>>540786803
Some of the contact damage hitboxes are really wonky, though.
>inb4 git gud
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>>540788526
legit skill issue
lace has a hurt aura cause she is void like ghoast and she hurts pale gods like hornet by nature. part of learning bosses is lrning where there hit box is. if you get hurt by that that is because you have not gitten gud yet
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>>540744497
You still here anon? If so, how are the drawings so far? If you're still doing them.
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>Shaman + Weavelight + Pale Nails + 3 Silk Hearts
Killed LL without once touching her with a needle attack. Did I beat the game? Did I git gud?
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>>540786173
The Mask Maker in Pharloom claims to work for the Old Ones (Higher Beings)
It's probably some magic thing for masks
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>>540787182
Outside of cheese like >>540788943, wanderer crest is probably the best one for Lost Lace, and I say this as a Hunter-chad.
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>>540789759
Why is that the case?
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>>540787867
Did I do it too early? I got the last silk skill and didn't see any enemies. Was I supposed to try going even higher?
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>>540790290
It mostly comes down to pogos and recovery. Wanderer not only attacks faster (thus generating more silk), but has a quicker recovery, which is extremely important as Lace likes to retaliate after you make your attack. Her retaliations can usually be dodged with Hunter, but you'll have a smaller window than Wanderer would. With as much as Lace moves around and her weird hit box (see >>540788526), landing pogos with Hunter is more difficult and more dangerous. Wanderer's pogo is safer and puts you in a better position than Hunter. A lot of laces attacks will also whiff you if you're on top of her, whereas if you're slightly to the side (like Hunter requires) you'll get hit.
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>>540788335
What does scouring pharloom to kill random enemies have to do with git gud? It's not a skill issue; it's a time issue.
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>>540788526
Lost Lace is one of the easiest bosses to learn. I did her hitless. People who complain about her hitbox or not being able to see shit are literally journo tier.
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>>540785668
it's just made up BULLSHIT because they lazily copied the hungry knight design to hollow knight and had to explain why his face is like that
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>>540791039
>put off fighting Lost Lace for hours
>while away the time by posting on /pol/
>finally fight her
>she's piss easy
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>>540792519
Chud power>>>Niggerdyke
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>>540792519
Agreed. Some bosses being too easy is unironically the biggest problem with Silksong. GMS and LL are the primary examples, it feels like there is no real final boss for either act 2 or 3 because they're a snoresfest. And no I didn't use tools at all in Lost Lace because I didn't want to waste shards in the easy parts before the true fight and then the fight was over. In my opinion, LL should have been a 1 hit kill sort of deal just to get across how grossly powerful the void is.
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All the people who say that Silksong is easy and Lost Lace is no sweat really make me feel bad about my own gamer prowess. Perhaps I am getting too old for difficult games and should pick up something more casual.
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>>540793078
You're falling for bait
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>>540793078
Silksong is casual, gramps.
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>>540790672
You have to climb even further beyond the Cradle in Act 3
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How the fuck do I fight poshanka girl? I'm in Act 3 and I did her wish already.
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>>540793651
you go back to act 2 and ring the bell outside bellhart
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>>540793651
Go back in time to act 2
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>>540793078
if you even got to lost lace you're better than all of the shitters that picked up the game because it was trending on tiktok
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>>540793750
>Act 2
Uninstalling then. I already beat LL and wanted to do stuff I missed without another 30+ hour replay.
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>>540793956
good news, the speedrun achievement is 5 hours and that's a brisk afternoon
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>>540793956
>30+ hour replay
it doesn't take even remotely that long to speedrun the game
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okay, 100% in 30h is actually really easy
i basically didn't route out anything, my strategy was to prioritize all the movement upgrades then start backtracking. I had to backtrack through a few areas multiple times because of wishes & rosary grinding but it wasn't that bad
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>>540793078
Nah, Lost Lace is legit hard. The only thing "easy" about her is that you can wall climb then double jump up to heal, which will put you out of range of every single one of her attacks except for the void bolts, but building the silk for heals is a real journey with how often she teleports around. Her hurt box for a few of her attacks (like tentacles) and touch damage is larger than her model, adding some wonkiness. She will also spawn one pixel in front of you (don't sprint) or on you (happened to me once to me during her 3 mask attack when I was wall clinging) as well. The one attack I hated most, funny enough, was her uppercut. I'd jump or pogo over her during her slide, and then she'd catch me on the uppercut since it comes out so fast. I think people come out of it feeling like she's a bit easy because she doesn't have a lot of health and the end of the fight comes as an anti-climatic surprise since it feels "too" quick. Also, I think a lot of these gitgud types are architect spammers whose opinions should be discarded.
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>>540794770
yeah, that was basically my first attempt at lost lace also
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>>540794873
her hp being low becomes very apparent when you run volt shaman w/ threadstorm, her ground dash attack and her parry are each large enough windows for the full attack
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>>540794770
She is definitely easier then the hype gives her. Not a single hint of random SHMUP sequences to be found here compared to Hollow Knight.
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Flea
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>>540795296
It really depends on crests. It was like pulling teeth fighting her with some crests, while she felt pretty manageable with others.
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LL should've had a high halls tier gank fight before the boss.
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>>540794873
>I think people come out of it feeling like she's a bit easy because she doesn't have a lot of health and the end of the fight comes as an anti-climatic surprise since it feels "too" quick.
Radiance was easy, but her boss fight was climatic as fuck.
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>>540796338
>Radiance was easy

No she fucking wasn't. Radiance took me 50+ attempts, way more than Lost Lace.
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I like how all the pale beings have pale nail style attacks.
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>>540794770
Literally my first attempt at her. She's actually fairly easy easy you finish her fight for the first time
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>>540796806
Also shows the different between the Hollow Knight, Hornet, and the Ghost/Knight
Hornet and the Hollow Knight are more closer with their pale being side, so they're able to do the Pale Nail skill
Meanwhile the Ghost is more void than pale being, which is more apparent in all their soul skills turning into Abyss skills and them eventually becoming the Void being. Hornet and The Hollow Knight embrace their Pale Being halves. The Ghost rejects it
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>>540799889
Hornet seems like the type to turn off her cell phone because she's not using it
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>>540795393
Didn't take them long to start doing weird roleplay stuff.
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>>540800419
it's called theatre
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>>540792519
>Silksong released
>Charlie's neck exploded
Pretty good month
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>>540803819
you will never be a woman
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Managed to play for the first time in 3 or 4 days and killed one boss and did a few minor things. I don't know what it is about act 3 but I hate it. Every new TC patch demotivates me from playing, too. I'm honestly not sure I'll finish the game because I'm just not feeling it any more after beating GMS, like, more than two weeks ago.

I wonder what SS's Steam rating would be if it only included those that made it to act 3.
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>>540803975
Thats good since I'm a dude lol
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>>540804284
>SS's Steam rating
It's actually mixed if you include the chink reviews
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I managed to get Crawfather stuck on the door to the left of the fight when he did his downward peck attack. Free hits until I stunned him/triggered phase 2. I killed him so I don't know if it's repeatable for cheesing.

>>540804408
That's 99% due to the translation.
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>>540804284
Probably higher since the steam rating has a higher average ratio based on more hours spent.
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>>540804284
>I wonder what SS's Steam rating would be if it only included those that made it to act 3.
It's probably higher. Most of the people that say the game is too hard got filtered by last judge
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>>540804767
Act 3 issues aren't about difficulty though and the fights really aren't any different than any of the other two acts.
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>Act 3
>Same maps as before but worse
>Same enemies as before but worse
>Copy/pasted fetch quests from act 2
>Sprinkled arena/gauntlet fights randomly throughout the maps
very meh act
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>>540804284
>I wonder what SS's Steam rating would be if it only included those that made it to act 3
Pretty high. Right now the steam reviews are mixed due to the Chinese translations. Before that it was really high
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Act 3 was better than Act 1
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>>540805254
>Before that it was really high
...you mean launch day when everyone was on act 1 or 2?
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My only gripe with Act 3 is how short it feels compared to Act 1 and 2
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Is there a mod to remove all the DoF filters from act 3 yet? Boy howdy, do I enjoy only seeing 30% of my screen.
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>>540805438
There's a bunch of shit that you can do in act 2 that is only required in act 3/to get to act 3. My act 3 was also mostly cleanup but I get the feeling most DLC is going to be backloaded to that part of the game due to the songs.
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>>540770414
>>540774623
>Jordans
Is this an Australian slang or something
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>>540805157
Lost Verdana and Coral Tower should have been longer. At least you got some cool boss battles like Karmelita.
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https://youtu.be/NX29UdY9Jxw
https://youtu.be/56oo-CvG6Gk

Why is it that whenever I see someone sleeping on clawline for combat, it's a reaper or wanderer player?
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>>540808424
Clawline is bad. It's too risky. You're likely to claw into an enemy's attack even if you don't claw directly on them. Sprints and jumps give you more control.
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>>540808424
The real clawline endgame is using it as a panic button in Flea minigames, absolutely goated shit.
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>>540808527
t. Wanderer
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Send me some videos of the coral tower hitless, I'm going insane over there
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I have decision paralysis on what console to get this on. I have Switch 2 and PS5.
Is it true the 120fps mode is lower res on switch 2?
Is one controller (ie ProCon 2 vs DualSense) better than the other for this kind of game?
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>>540809854
I'd go with PS5, the nintendo controllers tend to be kind of crap for precision platforming.
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>>540808424
>a reaper or wanderer
I use both, with Hunter as default.
>>540809110
lol same
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>>540809934
Okay thanks, shame about dualsense battery life. Do the analog triggers help or hinder in any way?
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>>540810339
Not sure. I played on PC with an Xbox One controller, but when I played Lost Crown on PS5 I didn't notice any issues. I think the analog controllers are a setting so they only have resistance if the game uses them.
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>>540809817
It's really easy with volt shaman. You can easily melt mobs with silkstorm, and the boss at the end gets fucked by the range of your sword beams and silk powers.
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>>540809817
Reaper crest + fully upgraded vesticrest, silk/bind blue tools, 3 Pale Oil needle. Just pogo on all the enemies (yes, flying ones included).
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What's (You)r go-to Crest build?
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>>540810939
Hunter against Lace, Lace 2, Lost Lace, Phantom.
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>>540808424
I use clawline with wanderer a lot, complements the faster pace and it's an easy way to sneak in 1 or 2 extra hits during reset animations
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>>540810407
Good to know. I didn’t realise the ProCon 2 had dpad issues
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>>540811449
Like I said, I can't confirm it for sure, but it feels like it has the same sort of mushy diagonals as the Switch 1 Pro Controller.
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So does Hornet imagine Lace in the Abyss shore? Or did Lace learn to do a mental projection or something?
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>>540810453
>>540810467
I just did it, with Hunter and the quick bind + harpoon improving tool
The gauntlets are honestly just super tiresome, I was kinda shocked they let you get a shortcut through the first three
The boss was pretty good, died once because I was tired from the gauntlets and ate a stupid amount of contact damage
He reminds me a lot of the Dancers, but he needed a bit more presentation, imo, just being in a square room doesn't feel kingly at all
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>>540808527
Clawline is good, you guys just cant accept you're fumbling a mechanic.
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>>540813208
Oh and as an aside, only during this gauntlet did I learn that the harpoon-improving tool the thief sells actually makes harpoon return 1 silk per use on an enemy because the additional hit also generates silk, it's pretty good to make it a reliable combat tool
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Wtf is with lava beastfly, it goes out of the fucking camera
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>>540810939
Does Hornet adopt her in the act2 ending
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>Act 2 bind ending where Hornet becomes a new god
So how long does Lace pretend to be asleep for
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>>540814178
Its only bad design was going off screen
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https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/441
https://files.catbox.moe/mnae6q.7z
Here is a build of the above mod but with the infinite toggle changed from taunt to R3.
Why? You cannot taunt while airborne which means you cannot use the mod during the bounce minigame since it only begins after your first bounce. Obviously requires a controller with R3 or figuring out how to bind another key to R3. Easy flea festival juggle/dodge/bounce minigames.

AI made the changes but changes have been tested.
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>>540814269
She's gonna be pretty mad her Momma was absorbed (I think she's still alive? As like a part of her?)
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>>540814870
Going off of Eva, her sense of self is destroyed and its like Hornet just absorbs soul and reduces it to raw power. But its possible that a higher being is different and she somewhat merges with Hornet. Certainly the being in that ending is our Hornet no longer.
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>>540814854
>ai slop mod
Ew
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>>540815874
>ESL can't read
Not the mod itself, the toggle change to R3 which was, like, 5 lines and removing the original toggle...
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>>540816112
>ai slop modder
Ew
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>>540816649
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She looks like she regrets kidnapping (you).
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>>540816649
>>540816693
Where are the lewd mods? Playable Lace? Hollownest port? Boss rush arena? Act selector?
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>>540815874
>>540816213
show us your mods anon
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>>540816693
>>540816649
>no playable Sherma
Not interested
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>>540816845
the only ones I have are for morrowind and they arent ai slop.
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>>540816721
>Put in the jar
Anything else?
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>>540816943
>spergs out about an anon using AI to change a simple keybind toggle instead of learning C# syntax and BepInEx modding
kek
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>>540817063
i'm sorry i offended you lol
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>>540817121
apologize to the ai, sir
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beep boop
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Act 3 needs a second ending where you kill Lace, with GMS destroying Pharloom in a berserk rage before dying herself. Hornet still escapes, but there's nothing left for her to save.
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>>540776719
She just wasn't fun. Two-mask touch damage is stupid as fuck.
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>>540776719
That explosion is maybe the single funniest joke in the game. I died to it.
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>>540817375
Just dont get hit
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>Here's a dream nail: musical instrument edition, it uses up silk, tho
>Here's a parry counterattack, it uses up silk regardless of success, tho
>Here's a harpoon 2: horizontal grappling hook edition, it uses up silk, tho
>Here's a minion tool, it uses up silk, tho
>Here's a quicker sprint tool, it uses up silk, tho
>Here's a gun which uses Shell Shards as ammo, it uses up silk, tho
>Here's an enemy, and other enemy, and enemy variant, they all drain silk
>You finally have enough silk for two healing? Don't worry, enemies interrupting the first heal will destroy all silk, so no second healing for you
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>>540817807
If you get hit while healing that is a massive skill issue and you should be punished for it.
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>>540816649
Fromshartsisters... are we the casuals?
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>>540817864
I never noticed that because I had Warding Bell, which protects you from silk nullification.
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>>540817319
>GMS thinks you're gonna save Lave
>bind her for no real gain
>go apeshit
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>>540817319
Act 3 was rushed prease undastand
>captcha 0HDAD
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>>540817992
Nothing in the game feels rushed, you're complaining that a buffet doesnt have enough food because you're a fatass.
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>Video is titled is "Silksong's Cut Content"
>Expect to see cut content
>Inside the video it's just some dude giving shit opinions and arguing with imaginary Team Cherry in his head
>Numerous mistakes
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>>540816649
Show healthbar is the most useful
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>>540818484
It's the most ugly. Better skin when?
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Did you like wisp thicket?
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>>540818942
Hated it til I realized there was a bench hanging there.
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>>540819174
>He doesn't immediately destroy all random hanging bags
You're gonna miss a lot of hidden stuff like Memory lockets
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>>540818942
It's a small one-off that has little relevance to anything, there's barely anything to like. But it's not really a negative either.
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>>540816721
>Lace missed breastfeeding off of that
I'd be mad too
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>>540818942
I like the atmosphere a lot, the creepy self immolating cultists are great. Wish it were a bit bigger but its neat.
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>>540820279
Wonder what it would have been like if they stuck to the original idea of it being a Void cult. Maybe it would have connected to Act 3 better.
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I can't find the map guy in the citaldel
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>>540820428
Shakra never appears in the Citadel, she hates the place too much to go there, you have to buy maps from machines.
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>>540818942
Fun to play through with a neat gimmick boss, but it managed to set off my worldbuilding autism by looking so ridiculously out of place.
This bamboo jungle should not be settled perfectly between the industrial superstructure, the toxic runnoff zone, and ye old detroit. It's wrong, I don't like it, and no amount of cool wisps can change my mind.
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>>540820523
What does the machine look like?
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>>540820642
Hornet sized snowglobe with the citadel inside of it and a coin slot.
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You can also get one from someones back
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>>540820759
that's in the Slab
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>>540820715
So thats what they were, I thought it be one of those rosary necklace makers
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>can't parry the fireballs with cross stitch
this mob is worse than i thought
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>>540820839
You will beg for the mercy of Primal Aspids.
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I finished the game and the only thing I can say is I would never recommend it to any of my friends
To tedious
Too unnecessary long
Doesn't respect the players time
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>>540821036
beating act 2 is not "finishing the game"
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>>540821109
Uh? I beat act 3
Didn't even bother with the gay lovers between, I don't care about exploring this shit game anymore
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>>540820342
Maybe they'll flesh it out with DLC.
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>>540821036
>4channer talking about a game not respecting his time
Always makes me chuckle
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>>540821441
>Haha I'm a neet loser that means everyone is a neet loser like me
Ok neet loser
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>>540821504
Hanging out in a general for a video game you dislike is neet loser behavior, sorry bro
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>>540821776
>Going straight to the general that talks about the specific game you want is more time consuming than looking through /v/ until I find an specific thread
You are dumb as fuck
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>>540821887
Alright. Now what?
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>>540821887
You're not respecting your own time by being here lol
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why would you come to a 4chan general to talk about a game you dislike instead of discussing it with your friends?
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>like Hollow Knight
>hated Silksong
What does this make me?
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>>540821354
I'm afraid to feel any hype for DLC. Yes, the first game's DLC additions were very good and there's a chance Team Cherry has even higher ambitions for Silksong's post-launch additions, but I don't want to overhype myself and get disappointed when they release something that's just three rooms and an extra boss fight.
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>>540822229
did you get filtered by difficulty?
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>>540822231
>>540821776
Seems accurate

>>540822280
They said their Silksong plans were ambitious and I have no reason to distrust them. Launch HK was a totally different animal than the final product and they still have that drive.
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For how much effort went into these guys' design, they were fairly underutilised. I think there were 2 of them in Coral Tower and they die super quick.

By the end of the gauntlets I was fully invested and on board with the bullshit. Ramp it up even more. Give me 2 of these cunts at the same time and 2 fat red watcher knight reskins as soon as one dies. And 2 flying shrimps that throw the blades. And no floors, wall and pogo only.
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>>540822360
I guess it's a question of, will Silksong's DLC just be all the stuff they cut in order to finally pin a release date that they'll add back in now that they have a base game to work off of? I'm seeing a lot of people wondering where the Steel Assassins are.
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>>540822229
Either a fake gamer who thinks Silksong is too hard, or someone who cares more about the feel of the world and story than anything else, and felt more attached to Hallownest than Pharloom as a result.
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>>540822331
I got filtered by Groal. I spent a whole 8 hours and 120+ attempts until I beat him.
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>>540822615
Jesus dude
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>>540822476
I'm fascinated by the world of Hollow Knight, and I feel more attached to Pharloom than Hallownest. Something about it felt more "real" and grounded to me, something that was worth getting attached to. It's difficult to explain. The characters within were also more endearing to me, maybe because there were more of them and a real chance to actually help them.

I'm willing to let Hallownest go since the whole narrative theme of the game seemed to be letting go instead of trying to keep it going forever no matter how beautiful it was. Hallownest needed to be buried, but Pharloom needed to be saved.
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Without looking it up, I know for a fact someone will have done all Speedmaster races without the anklets. I can tell you I will never, ever be doing that.
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where should i go if i want to fap to Lace?
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>>540818942
It was way too small, should've been a proper area in it's own right like hunter's march
I didn't even find it until I looked up where to get the flea map after I beat the game
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>>540822873
Do they even work during it? But yes I did all four without them, its not bad.
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>>540822873
The tools are disabled during the races, you got placebo'd.
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>>540822906
Deep docks
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>>540822906
mental hospital
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>>540822906
prison, lace is a child
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>>540822906
AO3
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>>540822794
Hallownest feels far more real and coherent than Pharloom to me, but I can understand feeling more attached to Pharloom and its denizens.
Hollow Knight felt right to end the way it did, but Silksong ending without some kind of Epilogue to show the world recovering felt wrong.
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>>540822873
the races are easy as fuck, press the clawline button and you win
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>>540822947
>>540822958

Ignoring the anklets, if items were allowed in the races, which would be the most OP?

I dunno if Scuttlebrace movement is quicker than running. Something that just passively damages Sprintmaster to slow him down? Tacks would be good as well since he'd be guaranteed to run over them every lap.
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>>540822402
I don't even know what their attacks are doing. They just die in seconds.
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>>540823147
bg3 added an epilogue as an update, what's stopping team cherry?
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>fag in bellhart won't give me a house
>fleas won't show up at pale lake
I guess i'm never doing act 3
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>>540823237
Weavelight would be useful for clawline spam
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>>540823323
My hopes are high for the DLCs
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>>540823572
>fag in bellhart won't give me a house
do the quests in all the towns
>fleas won't show up at pale lake
you have to move with them
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>>540823237
Cogfly to keep Sprintmaster down
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Why doesn't GMS simply make herself a bigger chest
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>>540824243
Why don't you simply find yourself a big titty gf?
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fadastema
mejeena fora
hirunare
naoo
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>>540824871
nAUR
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>>540824871
hasbim
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>>540822280
It was mostly QoL and recolored bosses. Only The Grimm Troupe is an original questline with a story.
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>>540822280
I bet they have metric tons of shit that didn't make the game and they'll want to release it in some form, I think DLC should be alright
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NA O
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>WILLIAM WAKE UP
>What, Ari?
>I got a brilliant idea for Silksong DLC.
>Alright alright, I'll make coffee Ari, give it to me.
>What if, we bring back Red Coral Gorge and and Pharloom Bay?
>Holy shit Ari you are a fucking genius.
>Not only that, William, we actually deliver Sharpe as a boss!
>Perfect, lets get to it and add it after we nerf cogfly the 4th time!
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>>540822615
Learn when to give up. If you think the boss is too hard, it means either:
a) You're doing something wrong, look up the guide
b) You're too weak, go somewhere else and do other stuff to accumulate power-up upgrades and experience
Groal is not really an issue if you have 2 oil nail upgrade and full tool upgrades, certain blue tool, unlocked the secret bench, etc.
For example, I got filtered by Hunter's March arena and Savage Beastifly, so I came to them later with upgrades.
In Hollow Knight, I never defeated some Dream enemies, Path of Pain, and Godhome, because they're optional content anyway. They were too hard, so I moved on and defeated the normal Radiance.
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>>540822996
lace is mentally retarded. that's different from being a literal child.
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>>540822996
False
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>>540825705
Genetically engineered obligate mesugaki
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>>540825705
>lace is mentally retarded
And she's perfect for it
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>>540822615
He gets melted by boomerang and cogflies. You still have to finish him with the needle but that shouldn't be so hard. The acid blobs are easy to dodge and you can pogo on him two or three times after them before he dives
I suck at hard games and I got him in like 10 tries, which is unusual for me
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My spellcheck really hates the word "putrified" from Putrified Ducts.
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>>540826209
Purified Ducks
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>>540822615
>120+ attempts
jesus nigga i'm something of a scrub myself and I don't think I got 120 tries on all bosses combined so far
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>>540826240
I wish
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>>540826281
For me, there were many attempts for Sister Splinter (and other bosses from the same era in general), enough to completely drain Shell Shards several times over. But it was still less than 120
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>>540825946
NTA but he already declined Karmelita who is similar too Iselda, already very humanoid.
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Anyone installed the beta for patch 3? Any undocumented nerfs or other changes?
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>>540826437
>Sister Splinter
It's so weird that of all bosses in the game they thought that one needed nerfing.
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>>540826494
You can always do non-humanoid mosquitos
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Do you think TC will ever do a game that isn't
>cute bugs in a cartoony fantasy world with a dark underlying story
or have they cornered themselves into only making Hollow Knight derivatives forever
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>>540826670
Mask Maker must be a very busy bug. Imagine having to create a mask for every pest that's born in some hole
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Will we ever get some lore on Lifeblood?
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>>540826781
Their next game is 3D real-time strategy in sci-fi setting
>>540826809
We already did
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>>540822229
Did you use a boss guide for hollow knight
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>>540826809
we literally did in silksong
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>>540826889
>>540826939
By lore I mean killing the lifeblood monster
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>>540827059
>killing the lifeblood monster
???
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>>540827083
in the lifeblood area of the abyss in HK there's a creature in the background that moves back and forth, it's the thing directly behind the knight
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>>540827526
That's not a face
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>>540827526
I predict one of the dlc updates will be to enter the alchemist's dreams to behold the form he describes. Easy new memory boss.
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Done with my shit for today, time to sketch. Send me your favorite bug for anime booba bolting.
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>>540828070
you can see it move in the background in that location
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>>540829095
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How come there are no scorpions in Hollow Knight and Silksong?
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>>540830192
Sorry I'd rather not draw black characters...
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>>540809817
architect and blue life cheese
>>540825554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVs7b7iHgbc
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>>540793385
Is this after Lost Lace? Because I've done just about everything but that, but didn't see any enemies there. Got the Pale Nail.
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>>540832143
Use Silk Soar into a crack in the ceiling.
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>>540832143
Its higher than that. There is nothing after LL.
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Wait, there's nothing in the Nameless Town but a memento? All that climb for a trinket?
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>>540832241
God dammit. Back up to the cradle. Silly me assuming after getting a silk skill that I was done lmao
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>>540832483
Use a shortcut. You'll return there later.
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Did the bellbeast have her pups while Hornet was out cold after the big bad fuckup, or did she start trusting Hornet enough to show her the pups?
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>>540832989
I assumed the abyss destroyed her nest and her babies were no longer safe from predators in the bellway so it was safer for them all to stick tkgether.
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>>540832483
And bugs for your notebook
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I'm happy I managed to kill widow after at least a dozen tries. A bit ashamed in that I went unga bunga in last phase because I felt opportunities for safe damage were so limited

So I just bursted her down with flintslate
+ beast bind
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So why Did Hera look so different from the other Weavers?
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>>540834346
Pale King fucked some uniqueness into her
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>>540833728
Also a silk ghost
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stressful platforming and tough bossfights are cool but I wish we got some nice puzzles here and there
no hitting bells in order doesn't count
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>>540836206
Anon, half of silkposters are too low IQ to fix the bench in Sinner's Road without a guide. They can barely explore, do you really think they can survive a minor puzzle?
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>>540836206
The running fast puzzle was too much for most of the community.
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>>540836397
I feel attacked.
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>>540836502
I got that on my third try. Just hold sprint lol
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>>540836596
It's okay to feel shame. Burn it as fuel for your own improvement.
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it's been a week since I completed the game, I kept booting it up afterwards to do things I missed.
Here are some thoughts
I still maintain that runbacks were ass, and the fast travel system is annoying.
The housing and collectibles at the end are really a nice touch.
I wish there was some sort of ng+ so I can play again but keep the crests and movement upgrades mechanics.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSXvOsCCCw
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I died to widow, last judge, raging conchfly all 10-12 times. Lace in the cradle killed me about 20. Trobbio got me like 15 times. And yet..
>Killed groal second try
>Killed tormented trobbio third try
I don't understand how early skill checks bodied me yet I bodied the bosses people here complain the most about? Do they just reward a certain play style or something?
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>>540837669
Groal isn't even that hard, what people bitch about is the runback especially the dummies who never found the secret bench and the warm-up gauntlet
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First boss you struggled with? I'm in the double digit attempts for the first time with the Moorwing. Mostly keep getting hit by the winding airballs in the second phase.
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>>540837525
There are no runbacks outside of Groal.
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>>540837894
beastfly
>>540837669
what about beastfly?
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>>540837993
First try in hunters march (but I did it at end of act 2).
The second one I did third try
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>>540785668
some bugs are born with a mask, some need a mask to be placed on. its that shrimple
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>>540838130
now for an extra challenge start over and do beastfly as soon as you can in the game
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>>540818942
those fireballs were sometimes fucking bullshit.
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Man wtf I already talked to this guy here and when I said I wasn't traveling with them they just disappeared, how was I supposed to know they'd come back here so I could tell him to fuck off to the lake
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>>540834346
I always thought Hornet was 1/4th Weaver. The "Old King of Deepnest" had Herrah with a Weaver, and Herrah ruled alone until the PK came along. But now it's confirmed Hornet is half Weaver, so who knows
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>>540822134
>sentinel with the pale silver aesthetic
kino
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>>540818942
it's a tiny hidden area that doesn't seem to have any significance or relation to the rest of the world, with barely anything to do in it
it just feels like it doesn't belong
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>>540820625
Earth has terrible worldbuilding.
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me? i did the basedface when the ghost appeared to save hornet. i miss him
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Last thread someone asked for the Choir Flyer, enjoy. Also a really lewd outfit.
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>>540838851
And what sense does it make for this guy to reward me with a house in his town only after I've cleared the wishboards in other settlements? But oh well whatever
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>>540837894
Last Judge strikes me as the first where I thought I couldn't wing it. Like if I didn't make a conscious effort to learn and strategise then I'd just keep dying in seconds every time.
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>>540839868
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>>540838920
...I thought the Old King was Herrah's ex she got promoted from consort of.
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Does anyone have art of lace and hornet after the binding ending or whatever
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>>540838851
>>540839905
it's no masterpiece
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>>540838991
I think they left it in for speedrunners
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Realistically speaking the parasite should kill 90% of bosses
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>>540839868
I like how most of these include a very confused non-humanized Hornet.
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>>540841263
Act 3 abyss confirms parasite is afraid of the void
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>>540825926
Has science gone too far???
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>>540815795
inb4 the bind ending is canon and now you have to face the most difficult challenge of all in the DLC: parenthood.
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>>540814202
Unknown, but presumably Hornet will be needing allies to enforce her will, so I could see her making use of Lace.
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Freud
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>>540839868
based
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Is it possible to meet pinstress before seamstress? I managed to get just outside her house, but the last jump is vexing me. I have dash and wall climb only.
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seth was really cool. almost feel bad shitting on him with architect spam
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>>540844016
don't worry, the real battle is at the flea festival
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i skipped the gay depressed mantis boss cuz verdania mobs were annoying
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>>540837894
Beastfly. Spent 3 hours straight on the fucker. But it was one of the very first things I did in game.
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>>540844360
Damn, that's too bad. It's a good fight. Injects a bit of difficulty into the Dancers battle but still just as fun on the baseline.
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>>540843875
I managed to do it with a heal stall right before the platform, but it took me a while. Granted, I'm bad at the game.
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>>540837894
The big ant fucker on the entrance to hunter's march. Took me like 20 attempts. I didn't have the dash, so it was essentially "you have one singular response to attacks and if you don't do it perfectly you eat half your life in damage", was very tough.
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>>540837993
I started counting how many times I hit and I got to 60 without killing it, so I walked away from Beastfly until I upgrade my needle.
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>>540845282
It was harder than a boss fight for me, until someone pointed out if you fight him in the tunnel he doesn't jump. When all he does is the two hit combo and the underground teleport you don't even need to parry, just wait until he resurfaces, hit him and walk away.
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>>540839868
Very nice
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>>540820625
It feels like a little magic pocket dimension to me
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>>540818942
It was too small desu. I understand that it was like, a magic special place sustained by a special thing, but I mentally expected way more of it, and it just wasn't there.
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Do you guys pre clear the zones for the courier quest delivery?
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If I find my way through The Mist, does it dissipate right away? Or only after I fight Phantom?
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>>540848120
Yes. It makes the deliveries much easier.
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>>540848120
Clearing takes more time than delivering.
>>540848232
After you defeat it.
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Seth is an annoying boss. He has a ton of shit to catch you on very basic gameplay actions like jumping and the fact that he doesn't take damage unless he's inside a very short grace window or mid-attack animation is furthering how annoying he is.
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>>540848120
Don;t even do it until you guys double jump and needle dash
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>>540815795
could Hornet bind the Radiance? or void? or other higher beings?
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>>540849267
no? she only seems to bind silk and weavers
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>>540848996
time to use "that"
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>>540839868
Cute
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>>540850737
I won, didn't take too long, he's not hard, just very annoying
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>>540848120
The only one(s) of concern are the flying pilgrims that throw bells, all the rest can be easily jumped over. If you try to jump over those ones though they often dodge back and immediately throw a bell. When I got to part where I knew one hung out I just chucked a bunch of snares in the air and stood well back.

There's also one in the main atrium of the Citadel which is a pain along with all the other enemies that get activated as you go up. For that bit I just ignored them all in favour of ascending past them. Took a few hits but the parcel survived.
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>>540848120
i modded it so the delivery doesn't expire or take damage
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Nyleth feels like it could be a great bossfight but she sucks fucking balls. She's too big and her patterns are quick enough that she can 100% fuck you by layering attacks on one another.
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>>540852782
Skill fucking issue, you can escape any attack without breaking a sweat.
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>>540853770
Nah, it's true. Sure you can escape, but 3 out of 5 attacks she has are all "go the fuck away from me" attacks, which can layer with other shit. As long as you only punish the wall to wall dash sure, ezpz, but waiting game bosses suck balls.
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>>540854031
If she is spitting you can dodge the projectiles and keep pogoing, for the large AoE you simply Clawline away and the melee attack is a range check, stop using Wanderer, you scrub.
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>>540852782
>her patterns are quick enough that she can 100% fuck you by layering attacks on one another
what? she's the slowest of the heart bosses. it takes her a second or two after each attack and all of it is easily telegraphed because you already saw it from other shellwood enemies.
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>>540854334
I'm using Hunter, nigga. How the fuck do you keep pogoing with hunter when she's in the middle of a spit?
>>540854423
The only attack with a considerable seeming delay is the spike ball summon, and that's only because she only starts acting when the second wave of balls is about to come out, the attack is still "ongoing" until then.
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>>540854732
You pogo between the spits and move in the air to dodge them.
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Im going to do the final boss, without any curse, so I ask:
I can directly do the boss and get the ending, then I can go back to do the snare quest and get the another ending+try to complete as many achievements/side quests as possible?
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>>540855187
yes
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>>540852782
>>540853770
nta but I kept dying trying to pogo, here hitbox is all over the place
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>Voltvessel guards can fry themselves with their own Voltvessels
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Would be cool if the game wasn't all flat surfaces and there were slopes and irregularities and hills and all that but I guess that would make it a pain to collect beads and enemies would have to be redone so probably not worth the trouble I guess
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I installed a black cloak mod after starting act 3
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>>540858251
blacked cloak?
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>>540858328
cloaked black
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Is Trobbio mandatory to progress in the vaults? Don't see any other way to go
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>>540854732
I beat her 2nd try with hunter. Stop being a fucking baby. If you've used hunter all game you've done way harder pogoing sessions. Also use your claw line nigga. It's both an offensive and defensive tool
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>>540858951
yes. beating him unlocks an elevator under which is the way to the vaultkeeper's melody.
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>>540859268
How nice
Guy is fucking annoying
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>>540859363
damn hornet is packin
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>>540852337
You didn't deliver the rasher.
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>>540860141
knock his balls away and stay away from his tornado
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>>540860141
Just pogo on him while he is doing the tornado
He is worthless at anything in the air above him
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>>540860698
Nah it's already done
4 tries, not bad for me
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>>540861129
Good job
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>>540858091
metroidvanias don't have slopes
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>>540861701
ori does
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Didn't think you could needolin corpses
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>>540861925
Ori uses free-targeted dashes, platforming based around standard gravity jumps use straight platforms because it fucks with your sense of distance and direction otherwise
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Does Shakra ever stay still longer than 0.1 seconds in her fight
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>>540863250
No
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>>540863462
Well then I won't bother
This isn't fun
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I wish Lace would just shut the fuck up during her fight.
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>>540863627
it's truly one of the fights in hollow knight silksong
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>>540863627
coglies + floor spikes. that simple
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>>540864772
Make her
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>>540865546
Can I go into the game files and delete all her voice lines? I swear I'll do it bro
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Do you think they ever considered doing something more like Ocarina of Time where you learn needolin songs and play them with button combos but then ditched the idea
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how long is act 3?
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>>540866057
not really, but I do think they planned the puzzle room top of corgwork core to involve the melody cylinders somehow, and ditched the idea along the way
>>540866203
it's one more quest were you have to collect 3 things before the final boss fight, there's more gauntlet, and the hardest bosses in the game so it depends on how long it takes you it can vary, but it's shorter than act 2
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>>540733551
Would you be willing to do the Architect? (maybe the perspective could be from the side so you can still see her tits and ass while she's on her chair)
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>>540866203
Depends on how much exploration you do in Act 2. There's a lot of cleanup that's act 3 only, but also some regions you could miss entirely until Act 3. My split was probably something like 20-30-15 hours for the three acts.
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>>540865675
My wife’s voice is angelic and you WILL listen to her.
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>>540868938
I've found and mostly cleared every region but there's probably nooks and crannies I've missed and I know there's a bunch of optional bosses I havent done
there's also coral tower, havent gone there yet
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I actually think a lot of things were done well in the Groal fight
Aids are fine because they are only there for a short while, have a very limited angle where they can shoot and you can pogo them for free silk
The arena is cool and i like when they implement maggots into bosses like with the chef, but i think its bad for the bouncy projectiles since the arenas shape can make them a bit unpredictable
I also like that you can hit him in the vore part
But him being a fatass flying enemy that hits on contact for 2 masks made me cheese him, i also dont like the fact that you can cheese him
Im so mad when retards complain about aids and maggots even though they are a great part of the fight and are done well
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>>540871475
AIDS are not fine, bro… I don’t want HIV
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>>540871475
adds are artificial difficulty, the runback is artificial difficulty, the boss itself is fine
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>>540871475
>I also like that you can hit him in the vore part
every time he did that I just clawlined away to not get vored
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>>540872680
I threw a grenade in his mouth
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>>540872351
>the runback is artificial difficulty
I wished it would have been atleast unique like for the last judge where if you have average platforming skills and you know the route you can do it pretty fast, but it just felt like a chore
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>thread is slowing down
it's over, time to move on to the next fomo, hades2
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>>540849591
>she only seems to bind silk and weavers
...did you miss her binding like six different species, shaman snail included?..
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wish the huntress had more quests.
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>>540858091
>slopes
Mount Fay
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>>540875332
It’s because people are trying to do a Silksong general on /v/ for some reason.
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>>540875332
I've played a lot of fomo shit the last two months, but Hades and Silent Hill f and Yotei are too shit even for me.

Also I haven't finished Silksong yet.
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>>540876012
>some reason
Everyone here, without exception, has been a complete cunt. I've gotten much better discussion and help from the /v/ threads.
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>>540876012
Because /vg/ is full of attentionwhore avatarfags taking about food and weather. Well, other threads, this general is fine (for now).
>>540876074
>Also I haven't finished Silksong yet.
Well, what are you waiting for? Play it.
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>>540876265
>I've gotten much better discussion and help from the /v/ threads.
>>from /v/
shut uuup
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People complain about Silksong, but Silksong is extremely friendly to the player. Inventory with a normal capacity, questbook, non-achievement-based unlimited quick travel, map markers, tracking system, easy map navigation. You take it all for granted, but Rain World lack ALL of it. Difficulty is doable for me, but the lack of normal inventory, questbook and unlimited quick travel made it not worth it for me.
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>>540876265
That doesn’t change the fact that it’s against the rules. Also, the /v/ threads are consistently shitted up by a persistent schizo.
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>>540877325
rain world is fucking shit
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>>540877527
>namefag drama
typical /vg/
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>>540877325
>non-achievement-based unlimited quick travel
what game does this?
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>>540877607
He doesn’t namefag, and there’s no drama. I was just pointing out something that is true.
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>>540877649
Rain World. Some limited set of achievements give you 1 "quick travel" point. Achievements are one-time things. And once you use "quick travel" point, it's gone forever.
Add the fact that map is absolute mess of "pages", it makes navigation absolute cancer.
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>>540868776
Not exactly how you asked it but sure, here you go.
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>>540878316
>tfw no hikki robot tinkerer gf
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>>540878316
Holy moly she's perfect
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>>540878316
She sure has a lot of meat on her bones…
>Architect
Well played…
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>>540878001
ok fair but that's like 1 game in existence ever, and also rain world is an oddity full of questionable gamedev choices for the sake of artistry
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>>540877325
>>540877585
Rainworld is fucking based. I don't want to play another game like it, but I'm glad Rainworld exists.
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>>540879020
I would play it if not for the lack of QoL features.
No, game, I won't go from the one end of map to the other end of the map six times (inventory is only 1 slot and have no UI, if you don't count equipped item and offhand that MC loses when get hit) for sake of finishing the quest that does not even appear in UI, so I have to keep track of it in a notebook or something. Well, I said I won't, but I physically can't because fucking Overseer suddenly stopped acting as GPS and map is fuckin' useless, so I'm forever lost in the middle of nowhere and I don't even know where the quest giver is.
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>>540785668
theres probably obvious exceptions im not thinking of off the cuff here but it always seemed to me like it's intelligent/cultured bugs who wear masks, the only ones that don't are either 'beasts' (as intelligent as rl insects), or are weird freaks that operate outside civilized society like snails. or are part of a totally different society only tangentially connected to the peoples of hallownest/pharloom like bees.. or have natural masks like ants though even then more mature ones seem to all wear them too
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>>540879871
>natural masks like ants
I'm pretty sure ants wear bones of their enemies or something
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>>540877325
yeah there's really literally nothing to complain about with silksong, every single iota of "frustration" from it comes from super well-designed combat and platforming that simply takes a bit of practice to overcome cleanly with the smooth controls and plethora of options, however the game is extremely popular and has been hyped up to obscene levels for many years so legions of casual gamers are trying it, getting their shit rocked and screeching 'bad game design' when it's literally, objectively simply the fact that they need to put some time into it like a normal video game and it's not holding their hand like what they're used to. it really is that simple
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>>540879871
>intelligent/cultured bugs
It seems like some seemingly "unintelligent" bugs are just youth of intelligent bugs.
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>>540867345
>>540866203
lol i did literally absolutely everything possible in the game that exists to be done before act 3 and i still keep being shocked by how much there STILL IS fully exclusive to a3.
yea a lot is technically optional like running back through most the game to see how the world's changed, every single npc has new dialogue, there's many new quests and just interesting encounters hidden around, and a bunch of random empowered boss refights and new gauntlets in old areas that are 'just for fun' and don't reward anything (except more free movement), but man. so many upgrades including one more massive movement upgrade, a crest, various powerups and collectibles, the entire fleatopia and racing minigame series, some all new areas, an actually surprising amount of new enemies and bosses, all totally exclusive to act 3. yeah it's not as long as 2 probably but it's not nearly as far off as i expected
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>>540877325
The aim of Silksong is to explore, discover, and win. The aim of Rain World is to explore, discover, and survive. They're two vastly different experiences when you get down two it, and while both can be considered difficult they're difficult for different reasons and that's good. The navigation and controls are tailored to their own experiences in a very intentional way and I love the feel of both.
>>540879626
>Inventory
>MC
>Quest
>Quest Giver
And that there is the problem a lot of people have with Rain World, even though personally I feel like that's it's biggest draw. The player is not a hero, he doesn't do quests or kill enemies. The player is an animal, he survives the wild against various creatures who aren't out to stop him as much as they are just trying to find food, fight for territory, and survive much like him. Rain World makes you feel like a pointless creature in a world that doesn't give a shit about you instead of the main character, and that on it's own is such a neat feeling experience that I feel in love with it immediately. Maybe its also why I didn't feel like Silksong needed its difficulty nerfed.
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>>540880659
>Rain World makes you feel like a pointless creature in a world that doesn't give a shit about you instead of the main character
have you tried kenshi?
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>>540878316
You should try doing a Spit Squit or Ductsucker or muckmaggots
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>>540880659
>The aim of Rain World is[...] survive
The ultimate goal of Rain World is dissolving in soul-acid. Obviously I'm not content with just doing that, so helping people with their quests is actually making a positive difference in the world where everyone else seems to content to shit up in their path to "ascending" (aka death).
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>>540880956
I just realized those aren't legs
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hollow knight world really is a shithole to live in. imagine being neighbors with a kingdom thats infected with mind controlling dream aids and another kingdom thats infected with mind controlling silk strands
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>>540878316
This is better than what I asked for. Thank you anon
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Okay, but what's the deal with the bells?
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>>540878316
The way Architect says “mmm” while doing nerd things just works for me.
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>>540785668
Bugs have no dreams or mind, a mask is a face which gives them an identity and lets them function as intelligent creatures.

Not all bugs need a mask, higher beings are bugs that are born with a mind (which usually means they have a mask from birth), some higher beings are so powerful they impart their own face and purpose on others (like the pale king) and the bugs around them are granted identity and mind because they project it on to them.

Mollusks like the Slugs and Snails don't require masks because they instead use will instead of identity to form thought. This is why the void is often worship by them, it is a formless power that is molded by will into anything... but it goes both ways, if you stare into the abyss the abyss stares into you, so often it consumes those who manupulate it as their will gives it life. Its why the god seekers could make the Shade Lord, as the Void is without its own will until they used their powers to project their beliefs on to it and make a will were there was none.

All bugs are beast, the only difference is if they wear a face.
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What exactly was the plan for getting Hornet in that giant cage from A to B? There's pretty much no viable route to carry it on foot, and they can't exactly take her out of it to transfer her to a smaller cage since the runes on it are what's sealing her silk powers.
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>>540889203
The blasted steps have a ton of cranes they could use to bring the cage to the Grand Gate, where it would've been transported by the elevator towards the citadel proper
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>>540816649
>>540816693
The only mod here that's worth it is the magnet shards mod
I hate shards. I hate getting shards. I hate hitting shard spots and they all fall into spikes
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I would have let Nuu smooch
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I would have let Lace smooch
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>>540889558
Maybe they could have repurposed one of the chains to lift her cage up and just barely fit it up here, but getting it to the gate would be pretty hard. Plus the elevator there only seems to go down.
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>>540891313
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>>540862115
you can needolin signs too
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>>540880128
my roommate who normally only plays shooters is playing silksong and he was hardcore raging over basically all of the act 1 areas, which he hasn't gotten past, and he says the game is bullshit hard. he never played the original hollow knight either
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>>540889203
I think it is sort of implied that the world is bigger that what we can see and there are other paths that the pilgrims take but we only have 1 2D layer of said world in videogame format because that's the cool route that hornet takes which is possible to her thanks to her acrobatic skills and such
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>>540877325
two mask damage is bullshit, stop being a faggot
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>>540893527
Nah
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>>540893387
Probably, it just seems weird to have part of the path they took fully accessible and then have the intended route they would have taken hidden beyond the limitations of our own access to the world.
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>>540894332
cool design
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>>540894332
Ooh I love this
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Citadel's BGM is so beautiful, but I'm kind of bired of exploring it already.
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How do you feel about this mod?
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>>540897616
GMS is cooked
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>>540897616
>ghost walking into the citadel
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>>540875332
>hades2
Nah fuck that
Something about Supergiant games bothers me. I've tried Bastion and Transistor and had to drop them because...I don't know, they annoyed me. And I see the Hades art style and I think "nah, don't wanna play that"
I understand it's probably 100% down to me and my tism or something though.
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All HK bosses and minibosses vs all SS bosses and minibosses in the ultimate team deathmatch, who wins?
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>>540878316
The razor blade cloak is sick, but not crazy good
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Are all craftmetals useable before Act 3? I have two in my inventory but I don't want to go back to vendors to check unless I know for sure. I was really stupid and didn't mark which vendors I hadn't cleared out yet.
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>>540904224
Yes
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What's a fun setup that uses more than just normal swings or poison cogflies to do good damage? I need a break from hunter/wanderer. Is there a way to make witch enjoyable?
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>>540905858
Plasmium overdose witch is pretty fun.
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>>540889203
same exact way so many little weak non-flying fat pudgy pilgrims made the exact same climb. probably used background elements hornet was too cool to use and preferred to parkour around the most difficult possible route which is the 2d slice of this world she allows us to see
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>>540905858
witch's build is trobbio mirror and heal as main damage
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>>540875332
>>540901114
I loved all the supergiant games (except Pyre—the gameplay was fun but I didn't like the story elements). Hades was fun. Hades2 just doesn't look appealing. It looks overpriced, too bloated with metaprogression and generally unfun. It'll be the only supergiant game I don't buy
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>>540822615
I thought I was bad because I spent overs 200 hours beating the HK Pantheons (most of it for the no charms restriction).
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>>540903869
Pale stag probably. Faggot vanishes whenever you get close
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>>540909048
>most of it for the no charms restriction
Huh?
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In hindsight, giving the player 3 HP was fucking stupid.
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>>540909337
Don't remember the exact term, but for each pantheon you could select a restriction: reduced attack power, reduced HP, reduced MP and no charms allowed. When you did all of them for every pantheon, it would open a door in a corner of Godhome. It only had a bit of lore and I did it out of completionism autism.
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I don't really use the attack skills on bosses, because I know I'm gonna miss having the silk bar full if I get hit. Does healing ever get cheaper?
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>>540910249
No, but you do get enough silk spools you can have a heal in reserve while casting spells, and a charm that's good for one heal per bench regardless of silk level
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Which offensive tool is the most fun to use?
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>>540910693
Garama
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>>540910858
Hard disagree, poshanka rings are more fun.
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>>540910858
pimp grenade
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I've been playing Hollow knight after getting to act 3 on Silksong and holy shit it feels easy. I forgot about the fountain and lost all my money and then reagequit though.
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Can you get full masks/silk in Act 2? I'm at 3/4 of a mask and 1/2 of a silk thing and I'm going to go insane if they're somewhere I just missed.
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>>540915961
no
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What the fuck is this boss?
>shitloads of HP
>fast as hell
>blocks
>dodges
>never stops attacking
>air attack
>floor attack
>deals 2-3 DMG
>3 wave gauntlet
I'm getting honestly upset. This isn't fun.
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>>540916164
She's designed to fuck you up if you retreat. Don't retreat.
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>>540916395
SHE NEVER STOPS ATTACKING
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>>540916504
So clank with her attacks and maintain space. She's more afraid of you than you are of her, it's fine.
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Mini Horns

>>540916504
You can heal for free if you climb up the sides and jump to the ceiling.
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>>540916164
>never stops attacking
That's the fun part. Also she's fighting you with her eyes closed.
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i'm horny for Hornet.
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>>540916395
That makes no sense. She has a huge-reach double attack she spins around.
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I love Hornet's turn around when walking animation. How she slightly lingers looking at one side and walks backwards at the start.
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>>540916164
the secret to winning is:
>equip wanderer
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>>540918586
I hate that I fell in love with it too early. I never got to enjoy the other crests.
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>>540918970
Other than Architect most of them are ass anyway.
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>>540916164
Badly designed boss.
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I didn't use this cheese, but I realized if you run away from Moorwing it will always chase you with the tackle attack, so you could just dodge that, hit it and run away again.
Alternatively, there's an elevated spot at the end of the platform you can hide behind and most of its attacks will miss you, you only need to worry about getting out of the way of the tackle.
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DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT FAGGOT UNFAIR BOSS
FUCK YOU JANE SILK
FUCK YOU TEAM JERRY
FUCK /VG/
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>>540862115
Where is this?
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Switch 2 at 120fps - is it 1440p or 1080p?
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>>540922049
720p
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YOU DIDN'T TELL ME KILLING THE SOUL MASTER MAKES MYLA GO MAD!!!!!
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>>540925507
It's ok anon. She'll be fine as long as you don't kill her or anything.
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>>540925507
Kill her. Release her from the suffering of the fake dream.
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>>540918970
>I never got to enjoy the other crests.
Hunter is good for small fencers, Reaper is good for enemies vulnerable to infinite pogo.
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>>540925507
In Silksong almost every single character have Myla's fate.
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Hunter is the best designed crest in the game. The progressing damage bonus means that as you get better at a boss as the attempts continue, you will start seeing damage spikes when you deal enough hits to reach the bonus. It rewards you for learning the patterns well and playing cleanly.
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>>540927995
I'm a Hunter user, and I pretty much never use Hunter damage bonus.
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>>540905858
You're already there. Hunter and Sawtooth circlet are fun.
You can also toss an item before clawlining
Cancel double jump with dive pogo, and apply sawtooth circlet on things on ground level
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>>540929610
>Sawtooth circlet
It was nerfed
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>>540930143
It was? By how much?
I'd still use it because it's fun
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Baby Hornet is adorable
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>>540742286
Wanted to give a Karmelita a shot
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>>540932205
Ooo I like the direction you took with her a lot.
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when will the fleas give me the final oil upgrade? i've collected all 30 and they just say come back later
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>>540932380
You have to start the flea festival and get the high score in every minigame, enjoy.
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Who'd you rather have as the protagonist of HK3, Lace or a one of the older protagonists (Knight/Hornet) returning?
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>>540934547
>HK3
It's as likely as Ori3
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It's a shame the Wisp niggas weren't used more. I think they could've been a cool little anti-Citadel religious fanatic subfaction, especially if you'd asspull the wispfire as one of the very few things that could damage silk, especially since wispfire is essentially another version of soul manifestation.
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I don't find Karmelita that bad so far. She certainly has a lot of health but everything is telegraphed and you have time to heal as needed.

It's a nice fight, fun. Compared with Groal which wasn't enjoyable and where I didn't feel in control.
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>>540897616
wouldn't it be impossible for the knight to scale mount fay? he also can't grip ledges so i don't think he can make it out of moss grotto.
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>>540932380
>>540932508
i got it, you have to leave. rest at a bench outside of flea town, then go to belltown.
the juggling mini game is the worst. any tips?
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>>540938868
Shaman crest has the tallest upstrike.
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>>540938868
nvm i just got it. I realized you can control the direction they bounce depending on what side you hit them from and using exclusively side swipes and it was easy.
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>if Wraiths catch Hornet in the Mist they kiss her
What did Phantom mean by this?
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>>540941846
Sister ntr
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>>540941846
Phantoms attracted to strength, Hornet pulls everything , man or woman.
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>>540944195
Always bet on more Phantom and GMS content
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Karmelita. She goes up into the air for two things: the curve claw throw, and the pirouette a la spikes. How do you guys know which one she'll do? She has a tell to separate the two? If I miss predict this, I usually take damage 'cause the way I avoid one sets me to take damage for the other.
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>>540944483
I just backed my ass up regardless and didnt jump until I saw which attack it is. Never figured out the tell before I beat her.
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>>540944195
>Zote questline
>At the end of the questline, he ends impregnating GMS
Imagine
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>>540944570
It's like >>540627405 can tell so I figured something gives it away.
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>>540944605
He's zote afterall
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>>540944483
Make a point of putting a lot of distance between you and her whenever you can see she's not either setting up a melee attack or in the middle of one. Then when she jumps into the air, you'll have time to see which attack she does when she's at the peak of her arc in the air when she jumps up.

The safest bet is just jumping up when you see she her jumping. With distance between you, this gives you plenty time to dodge the 1 or 2 curveclaws which always go in a slow downward parabola or if she's spinning straight for you, dodge it (this is why you need distance, to avoid jumping directly into her).

Another handy tip for the spin attack she does where she jumps toward you, the one that causes spikes to appear when she lands, is that if you plan your landing exactly where Karmelita is standing, right next to the smallest of the spikes, she'll always take a step back at the last moment. You don't even need to downslash when you do this, literally just free fall to the area right next to the smallest spike and you'll get 1-2 free hits in on her. Be ready to move away quick though as she'll go right into a melee attack.
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>>540915961
Yes. The last spool is probably under Whiteward elevator.
Can't really say about the mask, but act 3 has only 4 fragments, not 5.
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>>540947337
nta. i got that spool and am missing one. not scouring the map for all them. just gonna wait for my steel soul 100%
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>>540944605
GMS is only for Ghost
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>>540916164
she'd be all right if it wasn't for the gauntlet you have to get through just to practice
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>>540948018
Just check map in the OP.
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>>540948976
>couple of trash mobs
>gauntlet
lol
lmao even
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>>540949005
nigga. low iq mouthbreather.
>not scouring the map for all them
i ain't searching a dozen places.
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>>540949229
Sorry, I didn't know your dementia prevents you from remembering places you've already been to.
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>>540944483
It's how she jumps. But at a certain level you can just not care about either. If it's the claw throw you'll identify it once she's up there. And if it's the spin into spikes you can parry/deflect one hit of it and have her go through you provided you're not low to the ground.

A bit advanced admittedly. But it works consistently.
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>>540951661
What the fuck was he doing doing the entirety of silksong?
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>>540951661
I would expect the roles to be reversed.
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So is this general dead? Where do I go for silksong discussions now
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silent little ghost > sassy femcel bug
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>>540953457
There's usually an active thread on /v/.
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>>540951804
Having sex with the Mantis Lords.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4iNL_tkHrTs
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>>540954032
practicing a game to show off is literally just speedrunning
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>>540953921
threesome with those two would just be sitting on the side staring as they ignore you
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Okay I need to make a choice. Do I go to blasted steps or sinner's road to (I assume) start act 2?
Do I have a chance of skipping any boss if I do so? (I want to beat every boss)
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>>540955402
oh wait literal mantis lords I was thinking of the green twins
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>>540955589
Blasted Steps is easier but the boss in the other route is cooler
You can fight both anyway
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>>540955589
blasted steps is "intended" route here, but I can't imagine anything gets skipped if you poke around sinners rn mainly you can hold off on sinner since its a cancer area
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>>540954032
I do want to know how this dude is avoiding damage after pogo like he does
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>>540955743
>>540955748

Okay I'll go do blasted steps and come around for sinners road later
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>Team Cherry is going to patch that shitty Silver Bells wish amd the Choir pin wish to fix the drop rates
BASED
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get clawline and double jump as soon as you can, they make the absolute cancer that is sinner's road and bilewater a fair bit easier
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>>540944195
>Huntress fight
She's dead, eaten. She underestimated her brood's hunger.
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>>540956002
Its based on drops??? I wondered why I was stuck on 5
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>>540956108
>he failed to do the quest in act 2
Skill issue
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Am I right in thinking that replaying HK will be mostly a walk in the park after Silksong? I don't remember almost any boss being as fast and aggressive as the ones in SS and the platforming outside White Palace and Path of Pain ain't got shit on the pogo and clawline bullshit SS throws at you in many areas
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>>540956196
I did and she's still dead in act 3.
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>>540956029
Will do! Thanks bro
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>>540956282
No, she just leaves with her kids. If you wait to do her quest until act 3 you see part of her corpse and Runt is the only one who didnt eat.
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>>540956269
NKG is the only guy I would classify as faster. But he never does random shit.
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>>540956357
Bitch could have left me a note at least.
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>>540953921
Do they bite your head off afterwards?
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>>540955780
apparently beast pogo has iframes, idk how it works, only that there are other videos about it
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>>540956452
I mean her dialogue with Hornet is wary as fuck (which I like, they have a good dynamic where they both acknowledge the possibility they could kill each other at great cost), it makes sense for her to just peace out and bail in the abyss disaster and focus on the survival of herself and her hatchlings.
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>>540956269
Your movement is probably going to feel a bit stunted after being able to zoom around with Hornet even if the bosses will also be stunted
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>>540956269
The only difficult things are DLC bosses, mainly Pure Vessel, Nightmare King Grimm and Absolute Radiance
That and people got caught out by the Watcher Knights the first time around.
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>>540957050
watcher knights game me hell, but I went there too early, it's hk equivalent of beastfly in that sense
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>>540957224
It's more like the High Halls equivalent, given that it's required to get 1 of 3 important things and you can do something before the fight to make it easier for yourself.
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>>540957050
Watcher Knights was definitely my choke point for the speedrun achievement, there's no other basic ending route boss that puts that much pressure on you so healing just always feels tight.
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>>540944570
>and didnt jump until I saw which attack it is.
>>540945997
>Then when she jumps into the air, you'll have time to see which attack she does when she's at the peak of her arc in the air when she jumps up.
I react to slow for these. If it's the curve claws, I can maybe react in time 'cause I can see them flying, but if it's the pirouette she's on top of me before I realize it's not a throw, and then I get hit. It's possible I'm just standing in a bad spot / too close, but I can swear it's like she moves closer or farther with her pirouette's landing depending on where I'm at. (unless I'm practically on the other side of the arena.)
>she'll always take a step back at the last moment.
I'll check this out.
>>540915961
Pretty sure you can get full silk, but not full mask. 8 full masks might be the max for Act 2.
>>540948018
>>540949229
From the OP: https://silksong-completionist.com/
Upload your save and it'll tell you all you want and more.
>And if it's the spin into spikes you can parry/deflect one hit of it and have her go through you provided you're not low to the ground.
Never thought about parrying in the air. I'll try this next time. Thanks.
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>>540958404
(Forgot the (you))
>>540951546
>And if it's the spin into spikes you can parry/deflect one hit of it and have her go through you provided you're not low to the ground.
Never thought about parrying in the air. I'll try this next time. Thanks.
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Bro, I fucking despise lost lace. There's so much shit that's just "overlaying attacks that are hard to see", especially in the second phase, which is absurdly visually cluttered with shit. Hate it.
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>>540960283
>Loses to lost lace
Kek
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>>540960283
I dont get this complaint, just stay away from the left wall when the void starts flooding in and all her void attacks have clear telegraphs. Its black attacks on a white/grey background!
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>>540961547
Black attack on black attack with three different black noise overlays isn't clear at all, no matter how much you posture about it.
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>>540961839
Just dont touch the black shit, I dont know what to tell you. Her moves are extremely consistent, the floor shit has telegraphs, and her projectiles/blade goops have big windups where you should be in avoidance mode. Use smart movement!
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>>540962058
You can't respond to an attack you can't see because the attack is within another attack below three different layers of noise.
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>>540962257
Maybe screenshot or record the next time it happens because I cant relate to these excuses at all.
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today I will remind them
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>>540962589
Bizarre image since Hollow Knight was a woke reddit game from day 1.
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>>540962398
Well, you don't have to relate to them. I'm telling you how it is.
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>>540962589
Of your mental illness?
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>LOST GARMOND
no... not my bro...
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>>540962771
I found that using me eyes to look and see was an effective strategy for glimpsing her attacks. Let me know if this works for you!
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>>540964416
He'll be alright, he's just gotta rest for a little while.
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>>540964416
hardest fight in the game
team cherry made it rain in my room
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>>540963139
git gud wasn't part of the game's design philosophy until HK's godmaster dlc which was postgame optional content for tryhards retards, but the tryhard retards managed to subvert the fanbase and now teamcherry makes games for tryhard retards that have no concept or understanding of fun, this is what went wrong with SilkSong
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Finally entered Act 3 on a Steel Soul file. I have got to thank the Skarr merchant, Fractured Mask is simply too fucking good. Once it breaks that's the cue to quit to menu.
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>>540965034
Silksong has sold like 3 million copies, its not niche.
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>>540962771
Well it might help me understand your complaints if they were rooted in observable reality.
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>>540965427
I just don't think you're really into it, man, you seem to be in a masturbatory mood.
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>>540965724
You should have replied to this guy:
>>540964451
I'm the one who is legitimately curious about what the struggle is and offered you advice. Maybe just take a break.
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>>540965034

The game isn't that hard.
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I am getting completely filtered by act 3 and don't even know if it's worth finishing the game

I can't do Skarrsinger Karmelita
I can't do the Coral Tower
I haven't even tried the last one

I have 9 masks and most of the tools and stopped having fun a long time ago
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>>540967060
time to use "that"
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I found that staying near the right wall is a great way to survive LL phase 1 and in general observe her attacks without taking damage. Walljump and white background help a lot.

>a little stance and 3-slash combo
Jump and pogo when she stops in front of the wall
>3 slide attack
Jump and pogo when she stops in front of the wall
>jump and diagonal slash
Jump and pogo when she stops in front of the wall
>horizontal tentacles
Jump towards her and pogo
>strike a parry when pogoing
Jump again. Even if it's an air parry you will stay above her. Then pogo
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>>540967060
What's your setup?
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>>540967060
Karmelita I can understand since I haven't beat her yet.
Coral Tower, however, what's the problem? Did you not open the shortcut to the final area?
>I haven't even tried the last one
Nyleth is the easiest. Like, so easy you might forget this is Hollow Knight.
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I am once again reminding the thread that the amount of tool slots for beast crest is Far Too Low. TC please fix
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>>540967158
YDBTG
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>>540967060
Volt Shaman with Pale Nails and Threadstorm shreds shit, you can do it
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>>540956269
I started my HK replay yesterday and I'm at 2/3 Dreamers and its been a breeze. The only bosses I've died to so far were Enraged Guardian (2 times), Troupe Leader Grimm (~5 times), and once to fucking Elder Hu because I was being sloppy and even then he killed me just as I got the last hit on him.
Even the ones I remember having some trouble with (Soul Master/Lost Kin) were easy first tries.
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>craw lake gauntlet can drop ragpelts
>the forum gauntlet can't drop choir cloaks or fine pins
?????????????
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>>540965034
Bruh, it's a video game. You don't gotta seethe this hard. Just go play something else.
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>>540960283
If you won against Phantom, Lace 2, and generic void enemies, you can easily win against LL. Check if you have all nail upgrades, all mask shards, all spool fragments, upgraded vesticrest, etc.
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>>540965034
What are you talking about, Silksong is much easier than HK DLC dream bosses and Godhome. You might struggle in Act 1, but once you have Injector Band and two Pale Oil needle upgrades, you pretty much obliterate everything in your way.
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>>540970056
the truth floats to the surface because it is lighter, I am merely its emissary
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While I agree that Silksong absolutely loves to abuse "create as much chaos as possible on the screen to make fights more difficult" (minion-spawning bosses in Act 1 are absolutely infuriating), in case of Trobbio (both) and LL it's not really chaos, you're just flailing due to panicking. Stop panicking, and you'll see that everything is pretty clear.
Also when you learn boss patterns, don't use tools. They create visual clutter that prevent you from noticing visual cues for boss attacks. Use them only after you learned boss patterns.
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>>540971718
LL can spawn void tendrils under void saws which makes them literally impossible to spot.
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Act 3.
So, I got a cloth or something from, what I assume, is from the Craw while in Bellhart. Dunno yet what it's about, but I went to the Craw place, and even the house that had the arena battle, but I don't see anything.
What am I supposed to do with this?
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>>540971987
check the house again
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>>540971987
Go into subarea in the Craw place (you enter by going into the door). There will be a door on the right of the first floor. Knock on it, and it will open.
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Where do I go from here, Got to the slab fast travel but can't reach a ledge and every direction is locked so should I get to whiteward?
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>>540972057
>>540972221
Got it, thanks.
>Can't pogo any more.
To make flying enemies even more of a pain....
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>>540973681
Yeah Whiteward is the best way for you to go right now.
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>>540973681
Yeah, Whiteward leads you to where you get clawline
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Finished Lost Lace. Could be a good fight, but there's too much bullshit in it to really enjoy it. The visual clutter of phase 2, the way some attacks may intersect in a way that makes them completely unavoidable (you can have ground tendrils, void bullets and the prep for the super move active all at the same time, died to this shit once). Every attack demands a specific response, and if you misread the tell even slightly you're fucked. All of this could be fine but Lace also has no windows except for when she's in an attack animation lock in phase 2, meaning you just spend a ton of time waiting for opportunities. Tiresome fight. Worst in the game for me right after Groel.
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>>540934547
Lace probably, but I want Team Cherry to use the Hollow Knight IP in a different genre first. They could easily crank out a multiplayer fighting game with a massive roster.
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>>540728469
Same voice actress
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>>540974940
>They could easily crank out a multiplayer fighting game with a massive roster
you will get a 2d battle royale, and it will be shit
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>>540916561
Is this a mod or just something that someone drew?
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>>540817375
Lol ur bad
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What is at the top of the Cradle and is it worth the platforming bullshit to get
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>>540976712
not until you get the mr mushroom wish unless you want to climb there twice
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>>540976712
A Memento and Mister Mushroom as part of his quest.
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>>540976821
>>540977069
fuck that

i cant even use my needolin to get out of here fuck
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>>540976821
Except you don't have to climb twice since there's a shortcut you can open up.
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Alright, tell me your favorite Silksnog bug so I may horribly disfigure it with anime booba.
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>>540978779
sherma
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>>540978949
Sherma's a boy, anon
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>>540974763
>Tiresome
You're exaggerating, I did her in about the same number of attempts as Lace 1/2. Flea games and Sprintmaster were harder than her.
But then again, I only could beat her once I switched to Hunter, so maybe you just used the wrong crest.
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>>540978779
Lace :)
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>>540978779
Grindle
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>>540979120
Not in the boob universe.
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>>540979140
>Flea games and Sprintmaster were harder than her
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>>540979381
Yes. She uses the exact same moves as Phantom/Lace 2 and Void enemies. The game prepared you for her, you already have the muscle memory to deal with her.
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>>540979381
Pretty sure he means the post-Seth flea games.
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>>540979120
Sherma would be called Shurma or Shermo if that was the case, and she's not.
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>>540979536
my reaction stays the same
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>>540978779
Loam



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