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Threadlocked: >>540746627
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>>540838049
Please kill yourself nigger
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good but i wish her boobs looked better in that
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>want to try mirage
>check builds
>they're all generic le gun hyper carry
>has nothing in his kit to compliment going gun
????
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gonna summon the janny again
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>>540838682
his scarabs apply up to -16% bullet resist
hybrid is probably the play for mirage
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>>540838682
Huh? He’s heavy gun leaning
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>>540838682
What are you achieving by not going gun?
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>>540838846
I guess
I feel like it makes more sense to build spirit and try to tank up and let actual gun characters take advantage of the minus resist. play around the team and brool in with his tornado and scarab health
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>>540839170
>relying on teammates
come on now.
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>>540839263
if I had delusion expectations of 1v11ing my games I'd be picking infernus or seven
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>>540838682
Mirage brain breaks most people. his first build was echoshart tornado which was nerfed 10 times even tho it was actually ass and a massive skill issue, rushing echoshard is a meme. you can stun him between the tornados because its a knockup

Im still shilling bruiser/tank mirage with duration, but a fun alt build you can try is the fight flipper, you get cold front/Heroic aura/alch fire/healing nova and pop them all instantly when you ult in
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>>540839170
I've played around with more utility and spirit items instead of going for orange items since you don't need high attack speed to continuously proc Mark, but you're still primarily using your gun.
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>>540839389
You're right but Mirage is kind of a dead weight hero right now. He does nothing.
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>>540839170
How low can you get the tornado cooldown?
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How does one get gud with the semen demon?
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>>540839596
Surely his ult can perform some kino moves
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>>540839449
>bruiser/tank mirage with duration
had the same thought. sounds good on paper. post build?
>fight flipper
also thought of this but the ult CD is so damn long
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>take all three guardians and lose one in the push for the third
>Haze died defending it
>cusses out our entire team and DC'd
>reconnects three minutes later and topscores in souls, kills, damage and objective damage
What goes on in the mind of a Haze
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>>540839697
skill bomb
throw bomb
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>>540839712
his ult has the unique ability to give him absolutely no edge in lane when he hits 3400 souls
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>>540839712
in competitive he is used a lot because of his ult
in pubs he is borderline useless
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>>540839821
haze players all have 20000 hours in fps and can bruteforce their way to a win sometimes cause of it
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>>540839697
Press 1
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squeashies like haze shouldn't have a hard cc
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>>540840176
simply make her squishier
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>>540839883
>>540840091
>initiates still talking about bomb Geist
She’s a gun tank
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>>540840250
oh yeah if it was up to me I'd cut her hp in half
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does the resist reduction from weakening/crippling headshot increase the damage from the shot that applied it?
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>>540839697
Have the following
>4k hours tf2 ambassador spy or OW McCree
There you are now good at geist.
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>>540839897
>die
>can teleport back faster than zipping
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>>540840574
>die again
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Didn’t check if thread was over
what am I supposed to do when left lane feeds 20 kills before laning phase is over and the two of them managed to be 4/32/4 by the end of the game? How are we meant to win. How am I meant to handle a drifter that thinks he can take on the world and dives against the Haze and Lash he and his buddy just handing a tens of thousands of souls lead to?
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The black woman of Valve unοriginality.
These are TWO different characters.
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>like clicking heads
>hate everything else about holiday's kit
hotpoo assassinated the headshot character and now I'm going to die a mainless khv
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>>540840765
why do you think you should be able to win that game
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>>540840961
vindicta
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>>540840961
Doorman unironically or Geist
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>>540840961
play gun geist
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>>540840286
Post your build then buddy
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>>540840989
because pisslows overhype le 1v11 smurf carry as if he can win that game.
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>>540840961
Just build her gun? It’s great.
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>>540838174
kek
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I wonder when we are getting something like this in the game
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>>540841505
Maybe post release but I really can't imagine them having more than four skills.
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>>540841636
yeah but i guess upgrading the ult or other abilities would be fun
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>>540841505
I feel like the entire item skill imbue system (as well as items like divine's kevlar and lightning scroll) is a replacement for aghs type effects
i could see them implementing alternative skill upgrade trees like dota facets way down the line though
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>>540839907
has any team with mirage actually won recently?
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>>540840989
NTA but the question was plainly rhetorical.

>>540840765
4/32/4 collectively or they both had over 30 deaths?

>feeding Drifter
I both do and don't understand it, I've had some games on Drifter where early and early mid game went poorly and I was negative because the other team had my number and were ready to respond any time I decided to show up but I've never once ended a game negative because when that happens you just stick with your team and you'll still get stacks, just have to watch for opportunities like someone low trying to back out of the main brool zone and ending up qualifying for isolation.
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>counterspell's iframes don't go up by .2 seconds with superior duration
fucking scammed
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Does Swift Striker and Burst Fire stack, if they both build from Rapid Rounds?
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>learn about dinner sacrifice
>average souls per minute goes down because I leave every time slots spawn
I don’t know if this is making me stronger or weaker. Maybe they should get rid of this.
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>>540842669
duh
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can you guys post ivy pics so I can add them to my folder thanks
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>>540842796
kill minion wave
go for sinners before the next wave shows up
same principle as box farming
not that hard
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>>540842796
>type this post out without noticing the typo
yeah it’s a monday
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I know it's lash's thing but billy's slam also not scaling with height is kinda dumb
since it obviously combos with the charge that sends you up and is an initiation tool
maybe it's radius should scale from height?
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>>540842862
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>>540842945
That doesn’t seem physically possible. I’d lose a minion or two due to the time it takes.
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>>540843063
She would never
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>>540843124
if you're a slow character yes
but if you're something like ivy or seven that nukes a wave
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>>540839745
I was searching for the build but just realized his mark application is affected by cdr

If you Transcendent cooldown and enchanters emblem you can get it down to 1.5s which is an idealized 6 seconds to max stacks instead of 10, pretty huge ,even more if you go spellslinger
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>>540843242
Hmmm maybe I shouldn’t be doing it on everyone then. I’m sure it’s mostly worth doing on characters like those two where the small increments of fire rate carry into lategame wins
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>>540843319
also keep in mind if your teammate is solo in lane while you're picking up boxes he gets full souls instead of it being split between you two
so if you know your laner can hold his own for 15 seconds you're up over 200 souls for free
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>>540843580
I noticed that but I have a bad habit of going for every single machine if I notice nobody else is
I’m not sure if the stats are worth the 700gold or whatever I’m missing. And it’s too obtuse for a random person to answer without all the context, im just being autistic in the void
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>>540843124
No it really isn't. You don't have to go for every sinner, just the ones near your lane.
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>>540843276
With all 3 of those items you have 1.06s between application for 4.2 seconds to max 12x multiplier
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>>540842862
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>>540843921
Muh stats… true though
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I need to take a break man, keep losing games because every match has two guys that feed hard and then refuse to play safe after ending up behind. You don't need to risk everything for kills in lane ffs.
>>540842030
Drifter had 21 deaths 4 kills, seven had 11 deaths 0 kills.
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>>540844000
can you stop thinking with your noodle dick for just 30 seconds
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>>540844195
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>>540843869
kinda why you see people in DNS autistically fight over the 2 pennies from the t1 camp next to lane at minute 2
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>>540842862
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>>540844227
It’s my money and I need it now
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>>540844225
BASED
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>>540844000
>>540844279
thanks
>>540844225
nice pic but armpits are gross
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>>540844775
This is one of those formats that only worked with the original meme
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>>540844775
It's true though. Instawin if he gets farmed.
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>>540842796
Literally just macro, bro, don't go for sinners unless your wave isn't clashing or about to clash. Same principle with box runs or grabbing bridge buff (unless the enemy is sacrificing their wave souls to try and get it before you). If you're in lane when they pop up at 8 minutes, just make sure your wave is pushed up - you don't lose souls from their wave, they have to clear your wave so they are not likely to come after you doing sinners (unless you're being cheeky and trying to steal theirs), the only thing that can go wrong is not comming to your lane partner so they don't do something stupid like try and dive tower while the wave has aggro but you aren't there to cover them. On thay subject, I'd add "if a dive kill seems possible" to another reason to not do sinners when your wave is pushed. It's always better to try that over backing off for sinners because a kill means you can still do sinners immediately after, possibly even stealing theirs.
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creep waves spawn every 30 seconds
ask yourself
>will this take me more than 30 seconds?
if no, do it then return to the wave. if yes, ask yourself
>is this worth more than a wave?
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>>540843209
She's a spic, she would 24/7
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>enemy team has Victor and Seven
>our Abrams and Billy just leave them alone and let them AFK farm
>enemy team manages to stall the game until 30 minutes
>both if them "Come Online" and we auto-lose in under 5 minutes
Why does no one harass the free farming hypercarries while they're weak?
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>>540845984
I don't know. Why didn't you?
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>>540846082
I did, but I can only do so much to stop both of them by myself on Geist.
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>>540846082
|:
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>thinking of playing a match
>construction and shit going over across the road for awhile
>power suddenly goes out
well guess that isn't happening i just wanted to play some victor guess i'll just doomscroll on my phone
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>>540844775
>>540845113
>Victor in in-house feeds three times in a row in lane
>says “I will not die again”
>wins game 10/3
Victor is useless until he goes online
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>>540844775
>he doesn't rush refresher just to dive the enemy tower twice
ishygddt
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>>540845717
>>540844225Thats disgusting
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Idk what I'm doing wrong we just keep losing even when I have good farm, player, and obj damage.
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>>540842862
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>>540842862
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does ivy have nipples under her suspenders or no
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>>540847289
No.
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>>540847354
how do you know
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>>540842862
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Gonna try doorman for the first time gun or spirit?
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>>540847668
spirit that becomes stunbot after 30 minutes
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>>540847639
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>>540847248
i was wondering wtf those tumors are and i looked up the artist and he's got a fetish for obscenely huge pecs
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>>540847354
>>540847442
how the fuck do you know
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>>540847850
stones can't lactate
right?
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>>540847248
i thought it was a reference to that buff engi meme
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>>540847920
she has eyes and a mouth and tongue and organs
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What time do the inhouse be
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Giving boobs to Ivy makes her so unattractive
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>>540848187
Giving her big ones*
She should have cute small ones.
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Valve is losing billions by not making this.
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>>540840961
hopoo didn't make or balance holliday thobeit?
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>>540848581
they don't need troonbucks
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feet>boobs
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>6 loss streak
>always top performer on team if not whole match
:)
Maybe my mistake is never playing gun carries to physically drag mouthbreathers to a win.
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Guess the hero!
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>>540849456
Vyper?
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>>540849456
paige
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>>540849456
paige
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>>540849456
McGinnis
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>>540849456
yamato?
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>>540849456
viscous
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>>540849537
>>540849567
>>540849568
>>540849725
>>540849828
Nope, it's Viscous!

He was the only person on the enemy team with a positive KDA.
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>>540849865
>Nope, it's Viscous!
bitch. >>540849853
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>>540849853
Damn, off by a few seconds.
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>>540847798
Downsides?
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>>540848890
I had this happen to me the other week. I played gun carries and still lost because I can't win when the enemy team also has gun carries that are actually human, but my teammates are basically infinite soul generators for them.
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>>540847784
Oh thats cute in a good way. Must be a reference to their ingame dialogue
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>>540850361
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/conversations/e8500c77e559b9278eb3f9fefd2ee58b/
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I have managed to kill a hero before the game even started
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I genuinely don't understand why even make pocket a "they"?
Is it because there are multiple frogs in his pocket?
Idk but out of all the retarded identity politics terms they picked the most retarded.
He's obviously male, talks male, dresses male, but "isn't sure what he is" or some shit?
If they really wanted to pander this desperately, they could've chosen one of the more popular, albeit worse, terms like trans, or ace or agender or take your pick they're all stupid.
Also, they could've done this for literally any of the other characters that aren't exactly human, like seven for example, since he wants to shed his humanity, including gender, or something to that affect.
No wonder his dad shot him.
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Am I useless if I don't go pure support Ivy? I've been going spirit but I wanted to try gun or healing too.
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>>540850659
Viscous would be even better since he's just a pile of goo at the moment
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>>540844775
>win match any time we get past 30 minutes
>lose all victor matches before 30 minutes
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>>540850703
You're griefing if you're not playing Gun carry Ivy at the moment, because it's arguably the strongest build in the game period.
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>>540850659
it's coherent with they's character as a spineless, whinging rich kid twerp
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>>540850659
pretty sure its because hes possessed or some shit (the suitcase)
so its "they"
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>play stomp dynamo + friend heal paige
>8 wins in a row
1) genuinely this seems like a good pub strat, the raw heal and damage from paige and dynamo just automatically tilts teamfights in our favor or something and we just win
2) stomp dynamo is hilarious, you just throw a stomp in a random corridor and then suddenly haze died from mystic reverb
3) jesus christ the stomp hitbox is ass
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>>540848581
Making what? Keychain thingies?
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>>540851040
that's what I was thinking that there are separate entities with him, but idk, the wiki is written by retards who write wikis so obviously they say he's non-binary, while the in game description is intentionally vague, deceptively almost
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why is it that when you win the game gives you worsw teammates than better higher MMR ones
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>>540843063
Hey, I made that.
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>>540851306
The most damning thing is that Mina never refers to Arin as him, it's always they
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>>540847248
>Pokutti
Absolute patrician
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Someone post that Ivy eating cement pic
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>>540851151
stomp dynamo is probably the most brain dead build in the game right now
consistent, reliable, and pilots itself
stomp into paige root sounds annoying as fuck
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>>540851306
if i remember right its always been "they"
i dont remember pockets lore referring to him as "him"
alternatively its because "pocket" is just an identity taken on to hide from his father or whatever the fuck i forget
so its "they" because pocket is like some sort of "im just an anonymous entity" type alias
alternatively alternatively pocket has a pussy
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>>540851306
I think he is a gender freak since by this point Valve has been thoroughly infested by furfags and millenial writers as evidenced by latest Dota2 entries. At this point might as well assume the worst.
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>>540851458
Stomp combos well with paige but it's more that i provide like 2500 AoE damage and possibly 1000 heal while paige provides like 1500 AoE damage and i dunno, 4000 heal/shields. And that's disregarding the massive AoE disable ultimates and constant knockup/root spam. Meanwhile if someone is playing mina or some shit the added value is more dependent on skill or circumstance.
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My actual in game rank is seeker / alchemist
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>>540851668
that was one of my explanations for it as well, that it's supposed to be a secret identity, but for one, they seem to be taking the schtick too seriously for it to just be for the identity
like... once you see him, know who he is, know who his father is, you're not going to call him a fucking they
effeminate as he may be he's still obviously a man
which brings us to your alternatively alternatively, which I also don't think is the case, purely off of his voice
it's so obviously male no pooner could mimic that, and if they decided to come out and announce he's trans, the gender gremlin troglodytes would tear valve apart for not hiring an actual ftm to voice him
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>>540852308
i said the pussy thing as a joke
but it could be the classic trope of girl faking being a guy
sheik zelda blah blah
instead of actually being some trans type thing
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Holy fuck
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>first time doorman
>14/0/20
Oh my god doorman feels incredible to play. Need to get better at actually making use of his doors though.
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>>540852643
so when we getting dazzle to make viktor S+++ all ranks?
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>>540838682
And what IS he built for anon? tell me.
Because he has no spirit nukes, no DoTs, no abilities that continually output spirit DPS. The only ability he has that works as a support is his tornado.

The conclusion is that his kit allows him to be very good as 1v1er leaning on gun for his damage output. His passive slows enemies slightly and gives him vision if they're out of his site, his scarabs increase his gun damage and heal him, his tornado has invincibility and can keep most enemies still for a pretty long time, and his ult lets him get out of jail free or turn any 1v1 into a 2v1. He's one of the best split pushers in the game
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>cultist sacrifice always gives 320 souls
>cooldown reduced by 50% when targeting large creeps, 25% for mediums
fixed the item for you yoshi
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>>540838049
I have met my first hacker.
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>>540852643
Why you building leech with no gun damage though
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>fix mirage
Scarabs can be built for huge DoT. If any enemy dies under scarabs, applies scarabs to nearby enemies.
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>>540853447
NTA, but I can understand wanting medium constant lifesteal instead of situational high lifesteal.
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>>540853264
incredible
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>>540851434
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>high rank streamer on your team
>they go 1-7 on an offhero
>they don't speak the entire game
>open vod and they're talking to chat and clearly mentally checked out of the match
every time
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that's what you get
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>lose 8 in a row
>win 8 in a row
i wonder what my next 8 games will be!
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>>540854113
streamers suck, all of them no exceptions. being a "good" streamer means gimping your own gameplay.
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Why are drifter players always just the worst. They're either dogshit, assholes, or both.
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>>540854342
unfortunate Mo pressed the skill button after you
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>>540854518
proteus effect
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>>540854518
playing the hero a lot recently I can just say he is actually hard to do something on without getting stacks and having a bad team
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>>540854518
it's the infernus for me, farming niggers which need 5 6400 items to come online and MAYBE push
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>>540851746
kez was more directly inspired by zelda botw than furshit tho.
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>>540853506
He doesnt need fixing, he is debatably balanced
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too many russians in this game why
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>>540853264
>drifter
color me surprised
scum the lot of them
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>>540855976
they flock to valve titles
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>>540853748
Nice
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>>540856096
yeah but I expected the increased graphical demand to filter their looted pc out
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>>540856235
they have no problem gaming at sub 60fps
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>>540856235
game can run a steady 60fps on total potato settings even if your pc is shit
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make deadlock cost $60 and it'll solve the poor worlder problem
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>>540840286
It still plays well in ritualist
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>>540856513
hm
sell game for $60 or sell singular skins for $60+...
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>>540856617
and the battle pass for $70+
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>>540852643
Most unga character ever
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I FORGOT HOW MUCH THIS STINKS
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Post match history
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>>540855721
>its one flavour of furfaggotry and not the other one so its different!
Nah fuck off
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>>540856048
I like him. I understand a lot of people see him as Shiv 2.0, but he's definitely much worse than Shiv was at his best, but that doesn't change the fact that he feasts well on shitty players and ruins the game for the good ones on the other team.

For what it's worth, the character is the most fun for me when the other team is competent. Playing games of cat and also cat with people trying to bait me into a gank is a hoot.
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>>540856297
>>540856342
The one and only time I regret Valve optimising their games
>>540856734
Forget it, its all shitty lootboxes with 3 tiers of skin rarity now.
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>>540853645
I suppose the spirit lifesteal is higher on leech when infuser isn't active yeah, but I feel building at least 1-2 cheap T2/T3 gun items is better if you're going that route
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>win 5 matches in a row
>ding dong the state-mandated losses have arrived
>red streak currently at 6 with no signs of ending any time soon

i managed to climb up to alch 5 and now im already back in 3, i dont want to have to play with newbies with 0 moba/macro knowledge again D:
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>>540840961
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>>540848597
Come on man just let the guy have a scapegoat
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>>540856958
valve is definitely more full of nintendo fanboys than furries I think
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>>540856513
God I wish. If they made it at least $20 it would solve so many problems.
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>>540857075
>ruins the game

crumples to CC too hard to really be an issue at higher elos, even if he's fed and has big stacks. I think a snowballing spirit mo is more of a threat.
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So how do I pull people down in the air with Lash's ground strike? I always have it happen to me but whenever I play him I never can do it?
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>play Doorman
>try different builds
>all feel miserable, suffer in lane, 0 impact post lane
>maybe the hero just sucks?
>back to the reliable ol' Abrams I guess
>get sent to a lane with a Doorman, he gets fed instantly, push lane without a hitch, win in 30 mins
Sometimes you just need a reminder to hate the player not the game
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>>540857624
I repeat: this is all the same shit. I don't care if furniggers are coming from goytendo or from somewhere else, the result is the same.
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>>540858262
I hate furries, but that has never stopped me from enjoying starfox
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>>540856513
When is the last time Valve sold a multiplayer game? CS:GO?
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SEX WITH THE DOORMAN REGARDLESS OF HIS POPULARITY IN THE META
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>>540856513
i would be down with that even as a third worlder.
>>540858563
yeah but alter they made it free anyways. it would be good because at least during the first years you would probably only play with people that were interested in the game for real, probably climb the ladder before it went f2p and all the retard poorfags join.
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Anyone got a decent tank-support-spirit hybrid Kelvin build?
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>>540858021
you mean the dive kick?
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>>540858021
Just have to be right on top of them as you are coming down, but be forewarned that not only is the hit detection on it super sketchy and prone to sync issues, you often won't know you did drag them down for like half a second, they'll just pop up in front of you before you land as the whole interaction catches up.
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>>540858021
You need to collide with them in the air, it's the same as Ivy's tone form. Probably best to go into the testing lobby, set up a vindicta/grey talon with max duration on their flight and control them to make them go into the air then just practice getting above them with stamina, warp stone and grapple
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Made a pic with all the ways duration affects mirage

The wiki is great with these little icons I had no idea you could reduce his mark application with cdr
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Slowly fixing my total winrate. Games are progressively getting harder though due to ranking up. I'm worried after 1-2 more color rank changes games will get too hard and my winrate will plummet again... I just want to be above 50% bros
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>>540858092
Abuse doorman bell in lane that shit its like a truck if you hit a player directly and explode on top, it doubledips from spirit

Same for carts
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why so many russians pretend to be american on their profile
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>>540860305
The same reason they kicked up a huge fuss when Valve relegated them to their own servers (this has happened on Dota 2 and Deadlock, not sure about CS)
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>>540860396
man why valve listens to them, not like they buy anything
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>im phantom
>phantom lobbies
>i reach ascendant
>theres not enough ascendant+ rank players
>so instead of ascendant+ lobbies
>1/2/3 ascendant/eternus players each team
>everyone else archons/oracles
>coin flip shit stomp worst quality matches ive ever played
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What's your roster and what does it say about you?
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>>540860538
Half of the playerbase is ziggers.
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>>540860615
My man, just wait until you get thrown into games where the team averages are Archon (you will have Infernus building escalating exposure right out of lane type shit)
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>>540841505
I have a feeling we'll get alternate weapons ala TF2 before we get AGHS upgrades.
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>4 russians on team
Guess I'll do it myself.
The sub humans even had the gall to tell me "shut up" when I was shot calling because they wanted to keep talking in Russian.
God damn it how disgusting is Ginnis. Bitch stole my perfect end screen. Guess that one death is screwing it up too but it was literally 1v6 and 5 ults used. That's what I get for being a naughty little backdoor rat desu.
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>>540860615
>be phantom
>eternus streamer seething at me for not doing what he says
>call him a nigger
These lobbies are shit but it's fun to watch the top .001% of the playerbase seethe at me for only being top 5% and how terrible I am at the game because I don't bend over backwards to suck his dick. I play the game for fun nigger lmao
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>>540860769
Mine is "I can't aim and don't like confrontation"
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>>540860769
I like winning more than I like having fun
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>>540856513
Nah, make it 20.
It would discourage cheaters, third worlders and smurfs all the same.
And it's a valve title so no matter what, millions will buy it regardless. It's sure to make a profit either way.
They get to keep the game clean, while also not needing to inject garbage like skins or a battle pass.
Actually, if there's no skins or a battle pass, I would pay even 60. Guess I'm a buck broken little goy afterwards, but I'm so fucking sick of these gaming trends.
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>>540861273
>Actually, if there's no skins or a battle pass, I would pay even 60. Guess I'm a buck broken little goy afterwards, but I'm so fucking sick of these gaming trends.
You might wanna check what company is responsible for setting those trends...
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How do you cope with the fact that Deadlock will be free and therefore inevitably full of cheaters and slavs?
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>>540861384
Battle pass is a fortnite invention, so epic games?
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>>540861465
>inevitably
it already is
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>>540860829
you see thats the thing
i climbed with the intention of not seeing that guy again
instead i still have that guy
but hes laning vs 2 eternus players

>>540861050
large problem going on right now i think
high ranks are just full of FPS players
0 MOBA experience they just aim checked people so rank went up
they are actually kinda retarded
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>>540861465
By living in America where there's no russians and few cheaters
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>>540861465
I said it before and ill say it again
It should be 5$ per month
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>>540861573
We have the brown version of russians.
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>>540860251
So you need a direct hit and not just try for an aoe hit? Well damn
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>>540861465
>slavs
Please say russians/ukranians.
Don't lump in the decent slavs in with the slugs.
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>>540861502
>Battle pass is a fortnite invention, so epic games?
You might wanna take a seat, boss...
>>540861537
>but hes laning vs 2 eternus players
That or he's chainfeeding the other Ritualist playing Mina and she shows up to your lane with 8 kills before 10 minutes. I got thrown into an Archon 2 lobby on US servers the other day, (Eternus btw) and it was a total shitshow, I had to go a retarded build to carry it
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>>540861573
They VPN to NA all the time THOUGH?
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>>540861620
No fuck you, I have goyscription shit. I'd rather pay $60 once than $5 for 12 months
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>>540861465
simply dont give a shit

>>540861573
there are cheaters in america they are just pussies and toggle/try their hardest to hide it
russians rage hack they dont give a fuck

>>540861707
wonder if the matchmaking is fucked because theres not enough players or because they havent finished it
probably both i guess
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>>540861708
I have 600 hours and have never met a Russian on my server. (West coast)
>>540861660
I'm pretty sure Latam has its own server because I've only met 1-2 mexicans while playing. Usually they're stacked. Compared to dota or the finals where I see beans every few games.
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>>540862165
I've been lucky as well and have only ran into 3 mexicans so far. Two were actually pretty good and the third would rage at the team in spanish.
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>hover around alchemist/arcanist
>feel like everyone has better aim than me to a suspicious degree
>start checking peoples steam pages
>private profile, private profile, smurf account with one friend, vac ban on record, chinese name in three different hacker groups
this game is dead on arrival
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>>540860769
"I just want to goo"
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>win game
>rank does not go up
>teammate skill and MMR actually go down
>lose game
>lose rank
so is the best thing to do to have fun is smurf or never touch an objective?
I can’t see why winning games through objectives is ever worth it anymore in a Yoshi nigger alpha playtest
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>>540861708
I wish I knew how to do that. Playing with other Russians sucks. Everyone is so toxic. The inhouse games give me a taste of what it is like to play with normal people. I miss when citadel_region_override worked.
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>>540862987
CS2ServerPicker on github. It also works for Deadlock
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>>540862987
FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
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who should i play if i like to push lanes and not really pvp
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>>540863136
calico
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>>540863136
calico
mcginnis
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anytime I face an enemy doorman and they build gun it's literally a free win.
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>>540863767
>load in game
>gunman, paige, calico on MY team
>we lose
you should be able to pick which heroes you can avoid
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>>540863136
i push pretty well with ivy and vindicta
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>>540853447
I've just been experimenting with them. I think there are pros and cons to both. You actually do do a good bit of gun damage as Victor even with minimal gun items. Leech is also better for farming as you sustain better against camps using aura—usless you want to waste your infuser on NPCs.

Personally I've found Infuser to be the winner in most cases on a spirit build for obvious reasons
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>>540864112
Not many debuff remover enthusiasts in your games that feel like making the Victor go back to dealing 0 damage when he's low HP?
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why is everybody doing an unranked to eternus right now?
why are they trying to kill the playerbase even more?
and they're even fountain diving instead of ending the game.
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>>540863767
if they build for spirit it's the most annoying, boring, unfun game that you wish you could get out of asap
that bell sound is so grating to my skull, and it doesn't help he can cast it 6 times, doing 500 damage each time, plus whatever item effects he imbued
and just as you think you're going to get him as a close range hero he uses cart on you thrice, then escapes through a door that he set up five minutes prior and refused to go out of the range of
if he's on your team you can bet all the souls you have that he WILL ult the 1hp enemy to steal the kill, and he WILL save the enemy at least once by doing so
and then on the enemy team it seems like he always ults you and the entire team gathers round, just waiting like a pack of rabid hyenas to get the already all but confirmed kill
drifter should be based, but drifter players are cringe
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>>540838049
Don't Give Up On Victor Edition

I'm still stuck on the red rank. Ritualist? Was Archon before. On Victor it's an up arrow.
I usually get 4-5 winning streaks, then I suddenly get teams who sadly lose their lanes before the 8 minute mark. Enemies roam to your lane, you get ganked and then you can't get back on your feet. Anyone else get this? Games where I lose I get a lane partner who goes 20% health in the first 2 minutes of the game. Then the focus shifts on you. Some lanes you just can't win. With Lash, we dominated. Lash is a great lane partner.

Got a lot of praise this match from communication. Even a "was fun playing with you man". Good vibes.
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Why only 4 abilities?
Why can't we get full MMO style pvp with like 15+ skills? Even with full active items you're still only at 8.
I miss MMO pvp so much and not a single modern game can properly handle it.
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>>540864112
why didn't you try to remove seven stun with 2?
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>>540844775
oh man this hits hard
t. almost 100 games now on Victor
but do consider: >>540864559
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>>540864456
smurfing homosexuals
valve should ban them all
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>>540864559
victor should have no orange items
stop this delusion
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>>540864559
You're gonna start struggling if you ever get to a rank where players are aware that crippling headshot exists
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>>540860226
What' that site
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>>540865014
Tracklock.gg
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>>540864559
>Enemies roam to your lane, you get ganked and then you can't get back on your feet
I've been playing victor almost exclusively now since I picked up deadlock again and when this happens I fuck off into the jungle and play extremely safe
fleetfoot has saved me so many times
if I see a lane is empty i will push it but no more than behind the enemy guardian line, then i look for another empty lane or safe jungle camps and sinners
after a while I realize I can probably 1v1 someone, and try to pick the fight, but if they assemble a killsquad out of their ass I turn heel immediately.
rinse and repeat until I am an unstoppable force
it seems like teams are willing to tolerate a permafarming victor because they know just how strong he can be
if the enemy has a smart player that tends to invade jungle and kills me there a couple times, i start pinging like a madman for any assistance. if my team responds, we get a free kill and the enemy gets a nice lesson from pavlov, if they don't, i mute all and just keep hoping the invader missing from big fights is helping my team
but then again, i'm pisslow and nowhere near ritualist so maybe the experience differs
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>>540864571
15 abilities would either be overloaded or redundant; this is a game about strategy and being able to easily tell what an enemy is capable of is a good thing. Facerolling a bunch of generic buffs and damage spells is lame and gay.
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I really hope next patch nerfs kelvin into the ground.
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>>540864851
They told me the same about Dynamo, but I didn't listen! And now I'm stuck in ritualist!

This was a hybrid build. Early spirit which then goes into gun. Big problem with the build is: slots. Whole point of this build is lane protection, farming near it and pushing when ultimate is up. Don't be afraid to die with 0 unsecured souls.

Protip: Victor can punch while dead. Look closely at damage here.

>>540864857
Victor is nothing but struggle on all ranks right now. He needs tweaks.

>>540865536
>I play extremely safe
Wise. I've done this too. Somehow though the Haze on the enemy team, or Drifter, just knows where I am and ganks me while in jungle. Teams seem to understand if you're a farming Victor, because he is the real Potential Man of Deadlock. Even gun build is terrible early due to his guns accuracy and bullet speed. His ultimate needs better upgrades that make a difference in fight. Every game I spectate, Victors don't level their ultimate much at all.
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>keep winning matches
Dreading the other shoe.
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>>540865830
>271 healing on jumpstart that early
holy fuck
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>>540865830
i was being a little harsh
i will accept fleetfoot and frenzy
if you are in the most late game match of all time spellslinger
besides those no gun items are viable on that hero
berserker seems good but its actually bait
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>>540866170
laughs in blood tribute and spiritual overflow
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>4+ people in this thread arguing about pockets pronouns
>too retarded to read the actual lore
>if they did, too retard to understand it
Im not even going to explain it to you but I want you to know how retarded you look anyway. I hope you enjoy the troongoblins that have taken over your brain toxoplasmosis style. Its you who makes everything about transgenders, just as bad as they are.
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who do i play if i wanna gunmaxx
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>>540866153
With charges, spirit and booster mind you. I was lucky I got the level while being hooked and quickly maxed out Pain Barrier to debuff remove the bomb.
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>>540866382
stop.

>>540865830
>>540866170
keep doing what you want though im not the police
since you mentioned gun dynamo try this build
283053
dynamo has one of the best health per boon scalings in the game
dynamo 3 heals you for max health
headhunter heals you for max health
siphon bullets for giving you perma health
its very good
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>>540866451
he's clearly both pretending to be dead and rejecting the identity of his evil pop pop
not a troon, but a whiny little bitch boy all the same
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>>540866554
If your cringe then ivy if based then vyper
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>>540860769
Right now I have Dynamo on highest priority, McGinnis on medium and Seven at lowest because he's a high pickrate character that I'm unlikely to get
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>>540866554
haze
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>>540866554
mirage
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>>540866834
Dynamo was my old Deadlock main and I stuck to gun builds. I know tricks on him most streamers are not aware. I stopped playing him though because of toxic players shouting at you for not doing amazing black holes in every game.
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>>540866451
and yet you're the only one obviously mad about any part of this
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>>540867336
I get tired of seeing the same group of monkeys fling shit in my enclosure everyday yes
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Incinerate ivyniggers
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>>540865784
You've just never experienced it.
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>>540865479
Thanks
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>>540866382
I tried blood tribute and it's too micro heavy to get good value. It's basically a better "self damage" for berserker than your aura if you're gun build. In the game I posted earlier I did run into slot problem. Here's also some of the items I got. Main things were Leech and maxing Spirit.
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>lose game
>go up a rank
I don't get it
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>drifter
>viktor
>doorfag
>on my team
damn we really never stood a chance huh
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People really do tend to underestimate Doorman in 1v1s
It'll be maybe a few minutes post-lane, I just got my max cart buff and I'll get challenged by a Warden or Holliday who proceeds to get their HP nuked because they got overconfident and tried to match me in a straight fight. Even better when I have a gun upgrade other than mystic shot to cannonball their head
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>>540867783
"Too micro heavy" just sounds like a skill issue 2bh
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why does gun paige does so much fucking damage?
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>>540868176
split shot is ridonculous
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So I guess I should play more Doorman uh
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>lose 3
>must be my build
>lose 6
>must be my positioning
>lose 9
>must be my target prio
>lose 12
>must be my macro
>lose 15
>must be my farming
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>desperately need that one slot
>"Guess I'll just do it myself and try get away with somehow."
If there's any takeaway here it's the healing and survivability and solo Potential Man push.
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>>540868176
The frozen frogge thinks that spirit characters should have ridiculous gun scaling and vice versa
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It's pretty gay how long range "shotguns" are in this game.
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>>540868112
It's micro heavy on Victor especially because you can't have it toggled on while using Pain Barrier, otherwise the healing from it is massively reduced. I guess that's what I meant. Also yeah, skill issue. I'm just a below average player ngl
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>>540868370
post the build id im gonna try it
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>>540868275
>THE doorman
why does this little faggot think he's so special? like his wagie ass is that important
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>>540868571
He's on the same power level as the very guys we are killing each other to summon
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>>540868474
>fly into air
>victor's fingers still hit you for full damage
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>>540868331
Must've been your hero mate.
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>>540868910
I meant drifter, they're the same fucking dude.
Played by fags.
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>>540868571
I was always under the impression it was to make him seem even more insignificant. "I gave our luggage to the doorman," his existence mentioned in passing like that without dignifying him with his name
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>>540868571
Isn't he like literally satan?
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>>540868571
The doorman is more than his quantitative contribution, his value is qualitative and unmeasurable by numbers. When you see that smile holding the door open for you on a cold night after a long trip you will feel it.
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>>540860769
>Seven highest
>Lash, Drifter, Paradox, Kelvin lowest
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>>540868571
The Patrons refer to him as an old friend.
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>>540860769
>Doorman highest
>Pocket, M&K, Geist and Viscous
I only play this game to give the enemy cancer
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>>540852643
this is just a bunch of retards who dont know how to play the game. much like nearly every victor clip
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>our Victor doesn't do anything but farm for 20 minutes
>gets solo'd by Calico who has 7k less souls than him
HOW
JUST
HOW
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Another game, another drifter feeding the enemy 20 kills. I actually just fucking die inside every time I see one. Can I deprioritise a character to avoid matches teaming with them please. Like holy shit every drifter is a crayon eater.
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>>540857075
>but he's definitely much worse than Shiv was at his best,
hard, and i do mean HARD disagree
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>>540852643
they managed to explode you on your first life because of 60% antiheal, but after that they weren't able to stack it high enough to stop you from healing
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>>540869773
Calico's bombs are overtuned garbage and she goes nigmode which negates Victor's whole kit of "standing next to you"
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>>540864679
I fogor. Usually a bit buzzed when playing inhouses desu-ne. I bought a bunch of ale for an engagment on Sunday so when the lobby was up I was already out of it
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Who's more unga tho
Victor or Abrams?
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>>540868549
It's just my own build so no ID to share but I can post a picture for you to make your own.
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>>540856513
Putting a price tag on a moba is downright suicidal, also lmaoing at the guys saying CSGO was Valve's last paid multiplayer game, people gave THAT little of a shit about Artifact, that game alone ensured they'll never attempt to put an entry fee on a multiplayer game ever again.
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>>540870368
Why not rush your 5th talent on your 1 after getting the extra HP on 2? Isn't the 20% HP on impact mega important?
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>>540870564
>5th talent
I derped, i meant the "recover 20% missing HP" talent on pain battery
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Inhousers?
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>>540870361
Victor is more skilled than abrams or yamato or billy or mo or ginnis
If not by gameplay alone (but very much gameplay too) then the macro required to play him without feeding your mind off
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Slowing hex is such a piece of shit I will never buy that item AGAIN
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>>540871057
lol
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>>540870979
It's amazing for sustain, but doesn't help us farm and is situational. This build has spirit resistance early, so we go for the min/max upgrade instead. This helps us farm faster and last. The heal from 1 doesn't scale with spirit and sometimes you don't get those amazing 3-5 hits to heal a lot. Once we have aura min/max, we go for it. It's our 2nd maxed ability. That's really why. You can max it first if you want but I'm experimenting. I did what you said earlier a lot but I'm too mid to hit it on multiple heroes consistently to get value out of it.
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>>540872329
Forgot to mention that 20% missing health means to heal 100% of your missing health, you have to hit 5 enemies minimum. That only happens during Lash or Dynamo ultimate for me. If you hit one person you just get 20% of missing health, which does nothing or little when you're full or not missing much. It's really a clutch upgrade while having more aura damage helps in more situations.
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>>540870361
You tell me >>540870143
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valve is being too quiet.... something big is coming
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changing fov is cheating
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>>540870985
i hate indians.
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>>540873309
more Victor nerfs
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>>540873334
true
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>>540873342
That's nice
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>>540873309
>Ivy: -10 gun damage
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Attempt to begin hosting inhouse lobby for Deadlock players. Code to join:

J05K0
J05K0
J05K0
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is billy in a good spot rn?
ive played some games as him and it feels like he only really brings damage to fights and even then i feel like hes constantly being outdamaged by most characters
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE I HECKIN LOVE MINA DESTROYING THE WALKER IN 0.7 SECONDS!!!
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>>540874195
>is billy in a good spot rn?
Yes, a really good spot even.

>he only brings damage
do you know what his 1, 2 and 4 do?

>i feel like hes constantly being outdamaged by most characters
He's not outdamaging Haze or Seven but he does damage while being fucking invincible if you keep up your blasted buff
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>>540841070
Pretty much this. Funny thing about Frenzy is that the buff lasts a bit even after you've left the low health threshold.
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>>540874195
you buy like a few gun items on him, and he gets to 453 dps
unironically skill issue of aim
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>shiv is still good guys, you just need to buy a bunch of t3/t4 items from every category, max out 3 of his skills, and spend the first 30 seconds of every teamfight aka the most important completely useless till you build up rage
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>>540869773
VIctor does dogshit DPS and can't 1v1 for shit. He only really does something when he's in the middle of the whole enemy team while they're already distracted by your own team.
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is Enduring Speed shit? seems like a lot of schmovement players don't buy it, but people with worse movement do.
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melee is so incredibly jank in this game. heavy melee time is increased when going up slops or when being knocked up, parries may or may not work at all depending on ping, sometimes light melee input registers as heavy, melee range is inconsistent etc. at this point its really just a meme building literally anything else is a better idea
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>>540874748
Sprint speeds is a bit of a meme as everything cancels it, not just damage taken. Its good for the slow resist but that's it
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>>540874625
>you buy like a few gun items on him, and he gets to 453 dps
doubt
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>>540874748
You buy enduring speed when you need to be faster in combat or resist enemy slows. It's mid as a map traversal item
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>>540874980
Enduring gives ms not ss.
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>>540874748
fleetfoot or extra stamina usually better
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>>540861050
>saw a random wraith chimp out at someone who was flaming him last night calling him a tranny
>he shut the fuck up and took the game seriously after that

kek was that you
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>>540861050
Don't forget to flame these monkeys indirectly at the end of a game you fucked their throats, really bruises their egos
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>>540863042
Thanks.
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>4th match in a row drifter teammate that dies constantly
I actually don't think I want to play with this character in the game.
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>>540838049
Try gunbop. This is enemy team.
What builds are good on him? I really liked bomb year ago but it seems useless now.
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I think I like Bebop. And he is very quick to queue, for some reason.
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>>540867870
the only thing that actually matters to your rank is who you get in a lobby with, which is why none of the eternus players dropped rank, they get into matches with each other and it secures their mmr, meanwhile everyone below it has been steadily lowering rank because the lobbys are shitshows
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which heroes make you go this if they're on your team?
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>>540853690
How do you play gun builds. I can't aim for shit and its even worse when half the enemy team has flying/escape artist characters.
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>>540875742
Haze.
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>>540874579
>mo bails instantly
>leaving doorman to the wolves
>doorman visibly panics
I can only imagine the comms
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>>540875742
mina because i know my walkers are gonna be in critical danger of being killed before anyone can react.
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>>540875712
>for some reason
Look at your damage compared to your teammates
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>>540875712
Also, I like how he just strikes fear during the laning phase.
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>>540873865
Currently 6/12 players

J05K0
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>>540874579
>frenzy
>fleetfoot
>enduring speed
https://youtu.be/PX7zPlQjAr8?feature=shared
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Unironically whats the fucking point of Gun Doorman? Dude does 10000 damage with 1 ability in an aoe
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>>540875742
Sinclair, Haze, Drifter
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I'm only ritualist. Can I post here?
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>>540874748
It's more of a counter item to slow heavy matchups. Enduring speed is also good for building into juggernaut which is decent anti-carry item because of both the raw regen and lowering enemies fire rate when you shoot them

>>540874983
It's very situationally better and you would buy it for it's passive rather than purely for it's active
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>good evening sir, this will be your teammates for tonight's brawl
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>>540876735
most here are clearly initiate if you've been to an inhouse
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>>540876735
you are only allowed to post here if you are initiate
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>>540876792
more assists then deaths means they were at least trying to help, this looks more like the stats of a team that was just getting owned. post your own coward
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>>540875823
Literally aim or just use gun to push objectives instead.
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How can they rework Victor so he isn't a fetus before 30k souls and have 90% of his kit countered by the Joestar Secret Technique?
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INHOUSE
6/12
J05K0
J05K0
J05K0
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>>540877136
make his first skill a low range hook
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>>540877136
Your concerns are heard! We nerfed the spirit scaling on his aura of suffering by 0.1 and gave him 10+ starting DPS on it. He still takes 100% self-damage. See you next year!
t. Yoshi
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>>540877042
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I used to think paige was easy but then I got a teammate that used shield for no reason
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>>540877042
nta but don’t pretend that the paige is anything besides an elo terrorist
People need to stop picking this supportcuck and being absolutely useless
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what did valve mean by this
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>>540877675
paige can be really strong if you understand you're not playing tf2 medic or overewatch mercy and actually play the game
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Shiv is still miserable to go against and I wish they would remove this nigger character from the game the current popular build on him (knife spam) is nauseating to play against
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>>540877738
windmill efficiency
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>>540876785
that seems like the only time it should be bought, is when you want juggernaut later to cope with some m1 carry like haze infernus.
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this is why matchmaking is so shit
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>>540877881
required item on melee characters, also m&k, and kelvin.
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>>540877203
9/12
J05K0
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>>540877203
NEED 3

J05K0
J05K0
J05K0
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>>540878039
blessed matchmaking
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>>540877793
Yes, but pisslow niggas don’t understand that
can’t expect that out of troglodyte randoms
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>>540878294
you can't really blame them. her whole character design and kit feels like a support character.
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>>540868474
codtard
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>>540876595
One of Geist's major flaws is her not being able to capitalise on her own damage. Another one of Geist's flaws is her abysmal movement speed. Having the speed to chase (and flee) makes it so I can just stay on someone's ass until their dead. Also just good for farming and pushes.
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>>540878227
low prio, oceania, or 3am?
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>>540878407
>shotguns in a video game with ghosts, vampires, goomen, and zombies must be realistic instead of balanced
>muh imulsion
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>>540878227
no idea. i was just looking at someone's profile because he played really well and was clearly not from my rank. then i found this lmao
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>try out Calico to see how OP she feels
>she has a 100% uptime speed racer ability that can also activate shiva's guard to kill creeps
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>>540878190
STILL NEED 3 MOTHERFUCKERS
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J05K0

Let's complete a ritual...
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>>540878785
>100% uptime
Not really. And CF doesn't even do enough to kill
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Your challenge: try to exist in your own jungle when the enemy team has Mo, Abrams, Kelvin, or Calico
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don't even care anymore man
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What are Mo's weaknesses? Seriously.
Every single one of his cooldowns needs to be tripled
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>>540838682
I tried doing spirit build with him and it just felt super weak compared to just gun stuff
did they nerf his Djin's mark? i could have sworn it did a billion damage mid game and onwards
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>End Laning phase with enemy haze at 10/0
>Our Drifter is 0/8

Easiest abandon of my life.
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>>540879073
i'm making freedom patties with cheese sorry
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>>540879183
The fucker deals 0 damage after 8 minutes
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>>540879183
hes big and round. % damage fucks him up too.
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>>540875823
In a macro sense gun builds are always applying pressure while spirit comes in bursts around cds. You basically always want to be shooting abd that's how you can pass any purple build in dmg
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>>540879183
Mo is actually easy to counter you just need antiheal, slowing hex or knockdown, a mobility item to escape his ult, be 10k souls above him, and be 3v1ing him
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>>540878057
I don't see people buying it on Abrams and Shiv consistently though.
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>>540878227
how do you see this
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>>540879260
scourge and EE make your point completely mute
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>>540878598
Shotguns IRL have way more effective range retardkun
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>>540879158
me but with lash
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>>540879512
It's a matter of preference on Abrams honestly· Shiv's alt fire and 2 are enough for most skilled Shiv players
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>>540879529
statslock, just search nay match
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>>540879303
They fuck up literally any character, except other characters get fucked by flat damage AND do not have the second best escape in the game on a 10 second cooldown AND a way to disable M1 heroes AND a point&click ult that allows him to temp or flatout wins during 1v1
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>>540878039
>>540878227
reminder, fake rank website.
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>>540879183
infernus shooting him with toxic bullets
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>>540879607
Yeah bro I am sure the Mo with Scourge and EE is out damaging the Calico with Scourge and EE
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>>540877796
knife build sucks ass. shiv buys a ton of items, fully upgrades his knives, waits over a minute to get all his knife charges ready, tosses them at one guy (in rage they bounce to hit some nearby minions too) and does less dps then half the characters just M1ing on you for the same investment
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>mo and krill downplayers
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>>540879805
>what aboutism
not disproving my point
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>enemy at our door
>idiot goes out and dies
>leaves the game
>we wipe the enemy
>we push down their shit
>win
So do the leavers still get a win? Does valve even bother to ban people if you report them? These faggots need to be punished for their behavior.
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>>540880078
If your benchmark for a hero starting to deal damage is two T4 late-game items that a typical Mo cannot afford to buy in a regular game, then yeah
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3 more people required for casual inhouse

J05K0
J05K0
J05K0
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>mo and skill do no dmg!!
>holds you in place for six people to pummel you with headshots
>wtf?! I am at the spawn screen now?!?
>55+% winrate btw
I am beginning to think some people in this general just spend their free time being a contrarian instead of finding employment and contributing to society
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>>540880596
>>holds you in place for six people to pummel you with headshots
Who's the 7th teammate?
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>>540880171
>he wont be able to buy 2 of his core items because.... HE JUST ISNT OKAY??"
even bigger retard than i thought. also a goalpost move. congrats
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>>540879614
Yeah but this is a video game.
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>>540880596
>I am beginning
Yes, you are
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>Map wide AoE disarm that lasts forever
>Tankiest hero in the game
>Maybe the best escape in the game
>Best kill confirm in the game
>Low CDs on everything
>Hypermobile and can be across the map in no time
He has le... big hitbox though so it's balanced
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>>540880692
>>he wont be able to buy 2 of his core items because.... HE JUST ISNT OKAY??"
Real games of Deadlock played by actual human beings end at 30-35 minutes, that's only enough time for a single T4 on a typical Mo game if you've not been fed 20 kills for some fucking reason. There are too many core items you need to buy on Mo to not fall off in teamfights that you cannot afford to be saving 6400 souls for Escalating Exposure when dealing damage to the enemy is not your job
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>>540880489
TWO
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>>540879737
I am both Initiate and Ascendent.
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>>540880786
Maurice is definitely on the Epstein list
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Shiori Novella Paige mod.
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Statlocker is decently accurate and until Valve releases rank / match data (they won't because it'll show how embarrassingly bad the current system is) it's not a bad thing to go off of.
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>>540880681
Mo, of course
He is pummeling you in combo
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>>540880786
>Low CDs on everything
>3/4ths of his spells are 40< seconds CD
?
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>>540880835
please fuckign kill yourself so i never have to get monkey like you on my team
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>>540875742
Ivy, Paige, Billy, Victor Haze. Ivys on my team are always fucking Kudzu instead of gun. Paiges are always fucking Gun and I had a melee one last night, instead of support, Haze Victor and Billys on my team are just retarded walking soulbags.
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>>540881074
How are you calling me a monkey when you cannot even parse the information you are presenting to me that literally agrees with the post you're trying to disprove
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love him or hate him Mo is the only anti-carry in the game
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why do victor's animations look him look so autistic and retarded
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>>540881269
nta but you argue in bad faith and opened with a no true scotsman fallacy
you lost all credibility immediately
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>>540881297
Paradox, Holliday, and Doorman exist though
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>>540881420
Credibility or not he just posted proof against his own argument and doesn't even realise it
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>>540881297
he's just an engage tank
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>>540881269
sorry the retards in pisslow dont buy the item that people who know how to play the character do? Just goes to show what elo you're in if you disagree with the statistics
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>>540838049
>It's still up
She won.
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>>540879702
>They fuck up literally any character
but not nearly as much as mo, who has point for point the most health at every point in the game. shiv can execute him with nearly 1k health left in the endgame and decay is unavoidable 80-100 dps + massive healing penalty
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>>540881439
Believe it or not, doorman is not actually an anti-carry. Unless you've focused on your 2, neither is paradox.
Holiday is though, but shes in kind of a rough state.
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>>540881572
The statistics literally show less than a third of all Mo&Krills are able to buy one of those items, let alone both at the same time. Does Spirit Burn being on there, an item Mo can only proc if he's fully kitted with Scourge, EE and a shit load of CDR, not make that blatantly obvious to you?
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I don't know how to phrase this properly but does anyone know if I proc love bites with Rake, does the Rake dmg happen after the love bites?
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J05K0

1 more
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Only 1 slot left for the inhouse:

J05K0
J05K0
J05K0
J05K0
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>>540881308
because he his. how would you feel after you've been dead for who knows how long and then suddenly came back to life
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>>540881692
>Holiday is in a rough state
Lmao
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>>540881692
>Believe it or not, doorman is not actually an anti-carry
?
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>>540881905
I think Victor's voice lines imply he's an entirely new consciousness but I could be wrong
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This was miserable. Pretty much everyone was a fucking retard who didn't know what to do. And that Mina was just bum rushing the guardian and dying immediately. I thought she was griefing, but she ended up a menace towards the end of the game. And one time, we got the rejuv, but Infernus and Calico just went back to farming instead of pushing blue, so it was wasted.
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>>540881074
what these stats mean btw is that in massive stomps or back and forth games where one team chokes and the other does a final push and wipes them out aka games where mo is going to win no matter what items he buys, he can buy a t4 before rushing the patron

this is why the top 10 highest winrate items consists of shit almost nobody actually buys according to overall pickrate, they're luxury items people buy in games they could've won if they'd just bought nothing instead
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>>540882005
that building damage on seven after 53 minutes is diabolical
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>>540882005
Holy shit, I just noticed that Seven has 0 objective damage. What kind of escaped zoo animals did I get matched with?
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>>540881970
his ult only actually is good against low hp enemies
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>>540882379
Are you mentally deficient?
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>>540882379
This might be worst take i have ever seen on dlg

Congratulations.
I hope you are baiting
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>>540881297
>>540881550
actually he's a mole.
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Post inhouse matchid
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>>540882379
what the fuck bro
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20 minutes in wake me up
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>WHERE YOU GOING, PAL?
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>>540882379
this
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thank you yoshi for another win lane, lose game certified hood classic
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>>540882249
Seven was BROOOOLING for sure
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>>540882379
fpbp check'em
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>>540881297
*cough* mirage*cough*
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>any damage scarab does is returned as health to the enemies when it wears off
>does literally, unironically, 0 damage
what a useful ability.
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we need deathmatch mode
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>>540883545
Now I get why we couldn't take down their blue walker for so long. Now one was actually trying to damage it. They were all just attacking the enemy team.
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>>540876735
im initiate and chime in anytime they start talking about balance just to keep things fresh
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>>540869856
When I say worse I mean literally, Drifter is a worse character than Shiv was when Shiv first came out and was the most broken. You aren't actually disagreeing that Shiv is still the king of "broken on release" Deadlock characters, are you?
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I'm 200 hours into the game. I've never won with a viper on my team.
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Gimmie a Shiv build, I want to get good at playing this guy but I never really have felt the powerspike momentum moment in the couple games I have tried him outside of fights where we're already winning the game in their base.
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>>540881645
Sauce?
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>>540884107
i've been running dash build but i play in pisslow so i can get away with it
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>>540884107
>power spike
>throwing daggers at me level 1 for a quarter of my health
Shut up dumbass he doesn't have a power spike he falls off a cliff when your team can finally lock him down late. Until then you just play like you're immortal and you will be.
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>>540884226
I'm very low ranked, if it was an option I'd be playing unranked because I've never cared about that shit in mobas. I never played ranked in Dota and once it was introduced I've pretty much exclusively played turbo.
Can I get a screenshot of your build?
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>Victor plays aggressive early, dies 4 times, quits
>10m later Vindicta quits
>then Geist
>counts as a loss instead of non registered because the latter 2 were closer to the end
a
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>>540884107
the shiv build is going to character select and just playing abrams instead. if you want to do spirit damage you can just do a spirit + melee items build and erase people with phantom strike -> charge + book -> heavy melee -> cold front + headshots point blank
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>>540884107
the anime face one.
^_^ or something.
or togetherspirit.
or dew.
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>tfw only got 200 hours in a year of playing
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>>540884390
why wouldn't you immediately quit as soon as it's safe to leave
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>>540884336
just buy extra regen and emblem aka items pretty much everyone wants to buy in lane anyway and knives do nothing in lane
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Which mirage build should I pick that's public?
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When is this game coming out
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>>540884390
not how that works
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>>540884738
when you come out gay boy
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Biggest noobbait items? Ill start, extra regen
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how long does it take to be "out of combat"?
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>>540884828
trophy collector
spirit shielding
weapon shielding
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shiv looks retarded and not at all congruent to the 1930s theme
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>>540884420
But I don't want to play Abrams, he has no swagger.
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Victor and Drifter can be removed from the game. It's okay.
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>>540884828
crushing fists
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>>540884986
>swagger
He's a distinguished gentleman
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>>540884918
thought it was 50s
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>>540884828
boots
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Metro is going to be so irrelevant when this game launches.
>shit builds
>shit mechanics
>carried by aim
>small fish in a small pond
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>>540884530
>>540884770
You don’t get the leavers penalty yeah but you still get a registered loss. If the other two had left earlier it wouldn't have registered, I've had a few matches literally say that, the ones with DCs that end in 20m
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>>540884918
Too modern for Deadlock, too old timey for Neon Prime
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>>540885148
why are all his builds always at the top
does he run a bot farm to get them there
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paige thighs are too fat
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>>540838682
That hero fucking sucks and his kit doesn't feel good to use at all. My biggest gripe with him is how awful Scarabs feel despite them being really good on paper; -16% bullet res and HP steal from an ability is great, but trying to land them from far away against moving targets is ass. I'm surprised it's not a bigger splash AoE considering Valve gave every hero in this game some bloated hitbox ability. Plus I think Traveler is bugged because it doesn't shift your camera POV to your teleport spot; it just sticks on Mirage half the time.

Early on he's a lane bully, especially once he get's Quicksilver Reload on Djinn's Mark + 1 other gun item. But if you lose lane or are playing from behind it's miserable experience.
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>>540885379
he gets lots of views on youtube, doesn't correlate properly with his twitch view count, but even still he's consistently towards the top of the category with his 300 average.
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>>540885518
you don't get it, they have to be that fat so i can feel good when ragefapping to her after losing
same with mina
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how do i get lash's haircut without showing them a picture of lash
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>>540885627
it's just a fade with a quiff. so buzzed sides and long on top I think
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>>540884034
oh ok, no i agree with you
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>>540885148
>game comes out
>people look for "established names" in the scene
>hey, this guy's been streaming deadlock for 3 years already let's all watch him and farm twitch drops!
if you actually hate someone you're better off just not even talking about them.
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>>540884107
Spirit shiv is meta right now. idk if there is a specific build out there but this is what I know for an absolute fact.
Core items are
>Spirit sap/silence wave
Adds a ton of extra spirit damage and also severely reduces the enemies spirit by a ton so it's great for 1v1ing spirit burst characters
>Spirit snatch
This is good for a million reasons. It deals some nice spirit damage on your melee, it steals their resist making you tankier while ALSO reducing their spirit resist letting you deal more damage and again steals their spirit damage boosting your own. This is also extremely good because of the rage build up, light melee already gives you a good chunk but the spirit damage from snatch adds even more
>Warp stone
To make up for shivs lack of mobility
>Torment pulse
The damage is okay but more importantly it passively builds up rage whenever you're close to an enemy
>T4s
Order should be something like spirit burn > Translucent Cooldown / Escalating exposure > Boundless. Good counter items for shiv are stuff like juggernaut and witchmail

Do NOT buy boundless beyond late late game, improved spirit is good enough. Items not listed are obvious ones i.e. rapid recharge or mystic shot.
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>>540885159
whether it gets registered as a loss had nothing to do with the vindicta and geist. Only the time the Victor left determined whether that game counted. If a player leaves or is DC'd for enough before the 15 minute mark the game won't count

Problem is niggers who leave won't abandon instead DC and waste everyone's time and since it takes 5 minutes for a DC to be counted as an abandon that may fuck you over
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>>540885627
Why not show them a picture of Lash? He has a 3D model, you'd be able to even show what you want from multiple angles.
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>>540884918
Thanks for reminding me to post this retarded AI thumbnail I saw today
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>>540885840
>people like shroud and summit1g won't be there for launch
>all the new era zoomer streamers like caseoh and jynxzi
establishing yourself early does help, but there's a reason people don't watch him and they watch vegas and zerggy.
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>20 MINUTES
>cant even leave base
>4 retards that are 0-5+
>wont end
>cant leave
>the developers knowingly implemented this to intentionally waste my time
>just getting angrier and angrier the longer I'm trapped in the game
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wow drifter sucks absolute cock now
buffs when?
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Seriously what's a good mirage build because this is the retarded shit i'm seeing at the top
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if you buy greater expansion on Lash you need to SERIOUSLY reconsider your life choices pal
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>>540886015
that's not how it works.
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>>540886267
all i know bout mirage is you wanna build gun
and make it shoot fast
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>>540886302
It is
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>>540886276
there are people that do that?
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Gentleman's agreement to ban Mina for tonight./
2 Spots left for inhouse:

J05K0
J05K0
J05K0
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>>540886570
don't you trannies have a discord, why are you still spamming here even after grooming people?
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>>540886620
We have an IRC if you want to join
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guy still butthurt he lost an inhouse hmmm
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43646459

Match id of last game
Nice throw team blve!
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>>540886620
your favorite guy is on the epstein list
kek
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Ready up for the inhouse
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>>540886267
Holy FUCK this build is retarded
>Says to imbue QSR/Mercurial on scarabs because every time you shoot a scarab it gives 2 ammo
>Ignores the fact that scarabs deal no actual damage so the extra damage literally does nothing
>>>>>>>>buys boundless
It's literally the most obvious thing in the world to imbue QSR on his mark because his mark has no cooldown and the only condition is to have a single mark (which can be applied to NPCs as well) and the extra damage gives you really good burst early game. Holy FUCK
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>>540886267
Sharkys
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>>540886784
I don't like Bill Clinton though
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>>540886761
>throw
amber backdoored and then was just able to rush patron and we couldn't do anything about it
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>>540886620
we're not gonna use discord shut up about it already. You probably made it yourself anyways
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I'm trying to make a retard/aimlet proof geist bomb/knives build. Would you change anything?

My debate is whether to take Cultist Sac, and to a lesser extent Healing Booster/Tempo. They compete with slots with Echo Shard bomb and being able to hold onto Enchanter's Emblem longer.
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>>540887068
LMAO
>it's not gonna get made!
>even if it is w-we aren't gonna use it
>and even if we use it y-you probably made it anyways
LMFAOOO, kys groomer tranny.
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>>540886620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixGv5oGjsPM Embrace god chud.
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>>540887195
>guy cries about inhouses every thread begging us to use discord
>a few threads later right after another tantrum "uh hey guys I made us a discord"
>no one uses it
>same tranny cries again
It's pretty transparent
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>>540884918
Billy exists
That's all
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>>540887403
>>no one uses it
there are double digit numbers of you trannies in there, get cancer pedo groomer.
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Inhouse stream on t.tv /cl_ogar0
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>>540886761
God willed that Victory for the Djinn and the ISW (Islamic State of Wyoming)
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Tips on how to play Wraith? I want to play her as a rat (I usually play Mirage) but I fed hard in my first game with her.
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>>540887180
leech seems like a genuine waste of money here. Same with healing tempo.
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>check the ranks of inhouse
>phantom in one team vs a bunch of alchemists
>turn 360 degrees and walk away
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>>540886267
Use my build.
It probably sucks but I like it.
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>>540887180
>cultist sac
It's op build it on everyone.
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>>540887474
>he uses discord while crying about it
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>>540885863
no decay?
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>>540887605
Is it? It gives you a little extra tankiness and sustain to ideally punish you less if you make a mistake and get caught out. Maybe it is excessive to double up on it though
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is drifter whistling "hush little baby"
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>>540884918
That's because his model is literally the neon prime one a woodfinish on the cyberware.
>doesn't fit
It fits way better than billy only thing off is his gun and prosthetic arm. They could lean more into early Elvis with him but it's not bad as is.
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>>540884918
>black people are allowed to have jobs other than shoeshines and valets
yeah I'm thinking this is not very 40s authentic
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>>540887597
firerate and god aim and then pray your teammates actually do something
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>>540887597
As rat wraith i like to go long range early, it is good for positioning cause you will stand at the edge of the tower range for easier escape. Its probably prudent to use the capacitor while its still nuts too. Im also partial to shadowweave, I use it to hide on the minimap and delay the rotation
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>>540887872
In my experience leech is a luxury item you get super late or when ahead. There's better stuff and it doesn't sustain you nearly enough for it's price.
>>540888036
Infernus is okay bartender is believeable, but Wraith and Calico being rich black women with power in the fifties is laughable. Also Asians wouldn't be much better off either.
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>>540888297
>infernus OWNS the bar actually
yeah fuck off
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>>540888036
He’s not our world black he’s the same race as Abrams
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>>540886972
Scarab's HP steal scales with spirit, and that scaling is 3x on heroes.
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>>540888297
Thank you for the input
>There's better stuff
What exactly would you swap around? Would you still buy a Spirit Lifesteal?
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>>540887874
Yes.
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>>540888036
>comparing shitting on the thematical aesthetics of the game with anachronistic designs to simply disregarding racism
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>>540888396
hmmm? Since when? He talks about doing the ritual for his friend the owner...
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now that the dust has settled, what killed deadlock?
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>>540887872
I think you overestimate how much healing leech gives you especially on a build where you're just hanging back lobbing bombs. For how expensive it is you're better off just sticking with spirit lifesteal. And tempo doesn't increase your healing that much and you'd do little with the firerate.

There are way better tier 4s to get for this build.
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>>540888297
Wraith is obviously a Harlem gangster who very much did exist
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>>540888497
Im taking the cdr pill now, base mark feels unusable without it
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>>540888497
>and that scaling is 3x on heroes.
the health YOU get is tripled against heros, not the damage.
they lose the same HP as minions, you just gain triple.
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>>540884918
>i can accept telekinesis, genies being real and wanting wyoming, blue hulk, and all this other shit, but i draw the line at (old model that is going to be replaced)
kys my man
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>>540888396
infernus does not own the bar, his friend hank does. still, the historical literacy on display here boggles the mind. nyc had black owned bars since the 1840s.
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>>540888605
you're right I looked it up I guess I misheard some voiceline or something
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>>540888620
But a women? I mean yeah sure still feels really out of place.
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>>540888791
lol
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>>540885556
I feel like Valve intended for him to use his scarabs after he uses his 2 on someone, which is confusing since he sucks at close range and at long range he is really terrible aswell with basically no abilities
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>>540888687
you're right. because magic exists they should therefore add iphones, laptops and heroes with sweatpants and marvel t-shirts.

go finish your homework, dumb fuck.
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Which Geist build are you talking about? My one and only match with her went bad so I never tried to learn her.
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>>540888823
Yeah she’s pretty much Stephanie St. Clair
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>>540888882
>heroes with sweatpants
Seven is way ahead of you
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>>540888882
you dumb cunt i'm saying it's fucking retarded of you to bitch about a literal placeholder's ability to fit in amongst what is already a bunch of shit thrown at the wall and act like that's a valid critique. again, kys
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>>540888926
I liked the russian one the most, idk if it's still popular though so you might not find it. Also be careful with her abilities, they are not spammable until you get some items.
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should I replace Mystic Shot at like 50k+ souls on Spirit builds, when it's my only gun item?
it usually does ~180 damage at that point.
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>>540889034
>DOOD IT'S A BETA STOP COMPLAINING UNTIL THE PRODUCT IS FINISHED AND RELEASED
eat sperm, retard.
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>>540888882
>>540889147
hey, pedo retard.
you know that Shiv is literally from neon prime 1-1 and is a placeholder that is no way indicative of his future model right?
cry about Yamato next, it'll be funny.
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>>540888618
So something like this? What would you swap the Cult Sac/Enchanters Emblem out for? (I realize this is very situational but remember we're retard proofing it)
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>>540888882
haze has got some mfin tracksuit stripes down the side of her pants
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>>540889147
>i can't believe this content we know is a placeholder and is from some old shit doesn't match! wtfffff
does your handler know you're online, retard-kun?
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>>540889008
Alright you got me, though I think she's dressed too masculine for the time period still. I just hope the whole roster isn't some DEI minmax and at least 'feels' fantasy 40s. Need more characters like infernus/abrams/Geist who look the part.
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Why the fuck does Chain Gang disable Killing Blow? Why is this considered a movement ability? Two games in a row I've been cucked out of probably five Killing Blow kills because of this.
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>>540889117
Obviously yes but also by that point you should have more than one gun

You can run spellslinger or spiritual overflow
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>>540889514
release date diff
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>>540889514
>duhh why is my point and click dash execute blocked by the movement supressing ability
how retarded are shiv players
holy fuck, I thought it was a meme with how retarded these "people" are
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>>540886267
I have 50 matches on Mirage and I still don't know what to build on him
Most gun characters want firerate, but his 3 is rate limited, but the spirit scaling sucks so you don't want to build spirit for it either (it also doesn't proc burst, iirc)
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>>540889514
>why is my skill that moves me considered movement
hrm
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>>540889601
>tfw won the inhouse with tankbuster mirage
lel
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>>540889598
>>540889640
Chain Gang kills movement so you can't get far enough away to break the chains, I'm trying to jump on a motherfucker that is even closer to Billy and I can't.
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Good job shuffling there bug shaker, really evenly balanced
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most balanced inhouse match:
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>>540889787
>why is my skill that moves me considered movement
HRM
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>>540888497
>Scarab's HP steal scales with spirit, and that scaling is 3x on heroes.
QSR adds a flag damage bonus, surge of power is what adds spirit damage
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>>540889405
You’re definitely right that she’s dressed masculine, but if they made her a gaudy and extravagant female criminal she’d probably be chomping into Geist’s style

Time wise it’s a bit too late, but I’d love a flapper girl. Would’ve distinguished her enough from Geist while still keeping a slick and dirty criminal vibe
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>>540889793
dood I am tryeeng my absolute best heer okaye *pc crashes* *starts screaming in polish*
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Whos the Dynamohammed of deadlock?
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>>540884918
this isn't going to matter once they start adding cosmetics
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I've never gotten 70k souls before.
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>>540890142
I still haven't
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give me stats on the last inhouse, I need to see just how bad we got stomped
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Need 1 more for inhousing
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I don't understand how can you play the game at this state, when it's boring and barebones as shit
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>>540889979
yeah, I love wraiths current look but I think the style would be better for an al capone type character.
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>>540890218
numbers below username are objective damage
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>>540890142
Holy Sinclair obj damage
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>>540890279
its fun af, the movement is fucking satisfying
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>>540890328
>42
heh, that’s me
I also missed every carbine shot teehee
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I wish this game was a hero shooter.
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>>540890534
its a shooter with heros and mobashit
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>>540890534
>game has heroes
>they shoot
How isn't it a hero shooter :^)?
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>>540888835
Yeah I just don't like his gameplan and it doesn't come together like other gun characters in this game. If you're good with him, you could probably pick a different gun character and have way better results.
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>>540890459
rape
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>>540890446
movement might be the only think that is not crap in this game, it's just boring to learn, but the moba aspects are so lackluster, the game is really undercooked
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meppz ready up
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>>540890328
>team with 4 sacs beat team with only one
hmm interesting
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>>540890656
I don't think its boring to learn, feels really intuitive and you are rewarded for doing it in very obvious ways
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>>540890534
Deadlock is a villain shooter
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>>540850659
It's just an awkwardly implemented reference to his dota counterpart.
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>>540890735
nice discord troon
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>>540890328
>hiding names
lol

>>540890459
I was billy vs you in lane. Paradox is supposed to combo bomb with carbine.

You can't just charge carbine and expect people to sit out in the open to get hit by it. To poke with carbine you use bomb to get them out of cover. Alternatively you can throw bomb then shoot carbine before it's charged up (so it would go 1 > 3 immediately > shoot)
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>>540890656
>moba aspects
Compared to league it's a more complete game, compared to dota it's not, but dota is 14 years old or so.
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>>540838049
I want to play multiplayer but the matchmaking is so shit that I'd rather keep playing bots at this point and just not ever touch PvP ever again until it maybe gets fixed
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>>540891091
dota is around 20 years old
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>>540889601
If you have no cd it takes 10-12seconds to get max stacks

The tornado puts you aggressively positioned and gives you an evasion buff. The scarabs give max hp which with armors and evasion is worth more.
The ultimate puts you into a cluster fuck 9/10 times

He is supposed to be bruisery, Escalating resilience feels great
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why do people get so mad about mo ult but wraith which also turns your character off for about 4 seconds only at range doesn't get nearly as much grief
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>>540891804
One guy is a juggernaut tank that builds spirit and molests you to death. The other is a squishy dps with cards that will fly over you if you get too close.
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>>540891804
you can outrun wraith ult
you can counterspell wraith ult
you can still move after you get dunked
you can remove the debuff with divine barrier
basically it has actual counterplay
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>>540891804
because I can actually move and melee while wraith ulted.
some drooling monkey wearing a bib with dribble all over it pressed phantom strike, hit 4, and is now baking me with his ult and torment pulse for 0 talent.
now don't get me wrong, wraith takes no skill given all of her damage is dealt via bodyshots and headshots aren't rewarded with merc mag/her 3 but at least I can TRY to do something against wraith.
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>>540891209

To expand upon this the mark is basically a gun steroid that is better the longer the fight goes. The big picture is you want to stat check people, once they realize they wont be able to kill you already got stacks on them

Eventually the stop challenging you completely which is when you camp sidelines and tp to the big fights
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>>540889014
they're baggy prisoner pants
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>>540838049
Why is there a mid game boss when it's so useless?
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>>540888297
>but Wraith and Calico being rich black women with power in the fifties is laughable.
Today I shall remind them
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>>540892496
this bait sucks
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>>540892610
deepest cringe
btw you need to resize the window before you screencap it if you want it to be reasonably readable
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>>540889979
Calico should look like this
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>>540892929
I'm serious, I genuinely don't see anybody go for it
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>>540892496
Why is there no start and end boss?
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>>540893192
You need to be above archon to unlock that feature
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>>540893245
The end boss is the patron
The start boss is laning against Infartass
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>>540893245
The start boss is the matchmaking queue (if you load into the map, it means you lost). The end boss is the 55k Victor
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>>540893378
>The end boss is the 55k Victor
but im a 23k 1/14/3 mina he stands no chance
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>tfw the mid boss is mid lowkey
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>>540893539
This is the least funny delivery of this lousy joke, and as a phoneposter you don't even have the grounds to make it.
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>>540893539
Shiv
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>>540893673
yeah well I did it and you can't do anything about it

does that piss you off
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>>540893276
I'm so new idk if that's even true or not
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>mina teammate builds radiant regen, burst fire, FUCKING HEALING TEMPO AS THEIR ONLY t4 ITEM, and toxic bullets instead of actually useful fucking items like boundless/spirit burn.
>lose, obviously.
golly I wonder why her winrate is so low, guess she needs another wave of buffs!
oracle star game btw.
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>>540893753
A bitter, listless reply. Now I feel bad for teasing you.
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>>540894019
people run shit builds or meme builds on lots of heroes though and they still maintain a positive winrate
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>most recent 4 mcginnis I’ve seen were all running spirit
Am I missing something this seems awful.
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>>540894143
>seething autist trying too hard to fit in by mindlessly droning a /pol/ meme from 2016
epin
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>>540894258
they can't aim
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>>540894258
aiming is hard
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>>540893192
When I first started playing I didn't understand the urn and never saw people go for it either. Once you start to learn the game you will get to grips with mechanics like those, so don't worry about it
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Maurice and Krillathan
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>>540894716
krilliam
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>>540892496
>>540894001
>retarded newfag thinks the literal best objective in the entire game, an objective so fucking overpowered it can autowin you the game if taken early unless you MAJORLY fuck up
>is bad
newfaggots shouldn't be allowed to speak until they are 500+ hours and are above Archon
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>>540894752
kareem
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>>540894690
I don't understand a lot of this game even after going through the tutorial and I'm so dumb I have a harder time understanding game guides unless it's in the game itself.
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J05K0
need 2
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>>540894773
>Archon
Isn't most of the playerbase at pretty much this games version of bronze?
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Mohammed and Kareem
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>>540895000
Honestly these days even Archon is high praise. Phantom 6 gets you on the EU leaderboard these days (that's like top 1000), so yeah
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>>540895000
no, the median rank is fucking Alchemist somehow.
this games player base is fucking terrible.
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>>540895000
iron actually
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>>540882379
kek excellent bait, extremely effective
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>>540895000
checked
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>>540882379
this but with Shiv ult
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Why can I get sent to the Baroness when I didn’t even book a room
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>>540848581
>no trigger discipline
TRASH WHORE
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>>540894915
NEED ONE!

J05K0
J05K0
J05K0
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dead game dead general
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>>540895684
we're deadloc'd
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>>540880874
you are like a vampire that is not affect by the sun
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>>540895474
hotel trivago
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>>540848890
Have you considered you are possibly playing in a way that makes all your shitters play worse ? You can't just farm all game only taking safe fights you gotta get them involved and fed too even if it means dying sometimes. Try to get urn, call for mid boss.

Not saying you can carry every game but I've been doing alright (in ritualist) and I barely ever even hit jungle creeps. Lane shoving and ganking. I play drifter though so it's a bit easier to choke out the map.
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>>540888786
true, but someone like mina or geist would not be going to them
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>>540890371
recently i found out that sinclair MELTS objectives for some reason
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>>540840961
This >>540841060
I get it, I loved Holliday crackshot build too. Its a shame that the devs keep focusing heroes on just 1-2 builds now
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>>540840961
haze.
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Allah forgive me, for I must lane with a w*omen. Not even wearing a hijab...
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>yfw these stats lead to me having a 70-80% winrate for the past week
Drifter is such a brool brained hero
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I hope they nerf Cultist Sacrifice to the ground.
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J05K0

Join 7 men and like, 4 europeans so we can have a match please!
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>>540895621
>thinking mina cares if a few minorities die to her negligence
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>>540894258
if you set up the turret farm you can get some pretty crazy DPS
the problem is the said turret farm gets 1shot by almost any AoE lategame
in short it's a meme build
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>>540896204
Hope they delete this shit from the game
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>>540896148
I'd demote like 75% of your S tier to various lower ones

I mean like you have the whole roster there
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>>540896148
Mirage being S is really overselling him even if his 4 is godtier with a premade.
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>>540896204
Me too. It probably shouldnt exist. At least trophy collector requires you to do something other than click it on a creep.
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>>540896204
Why? It should be a good item for carries but it should be nerfed so other people aren't buying it.
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>>540896204
people are only buying cultist so much because nobody actually enjoys farming jungle camps
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>>540896223
hmmm....I don't think I will! hahaha!
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>>540896324
Thats what mr streamer said and i believe him
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I give this shit 10min
Im falling asleep in my chair
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1 gamer join before I need to piss
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Anybody know any noob builds for haze or seven?
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>>540896204
crazy that they're leaving it in the game for this long when tons of other shit that 60+% of players were using got nerfed much quicker.
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>>540896446
>dies to character
>CHAT CHARACTER IS LOWKEY OP
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I genuinely don't understand Drifter, every single game I just feed my face off and everyone on the enemy team can make me explode with zero effort, I've gone down two ranks already.
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>>540896719
we have to wait for the Chinese feedback before Icefrog, I mean, Yoshi does anything
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>>540896143
Lol just afk in lane is 1k souls per m
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ok im taking a fat fucking shit if we get one more im sorry ill be a few
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J05K0

JOIN MOTHERFUCKERS
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cmon 1 more
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>>540896861
Drifter is probably one of the most braindead heroes in the game
>buy close quarters
>teleport behind someone
>instagib them
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give me a bit i'm getting in the shower
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>>540896991
>fat fucking shit
erm take a picture and post it in the thread and we'll see if we're really talking a fat log here
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>>540896148
I've never seen a viper team win a match.
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pick yo heroes niggas
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>>540896743
Das rite
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>>540897227
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>>540897082
It sure as fuck doesn't feel like it, Doorman felt more intuitive from the get go, meanwhile playing Drifter makes me want to pull my nails off.
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>>540896861
>only fight people who are alone
>farm the map when not doing this
>dont full send heavy melees after throwing dart like a fucking retard
wow so hard
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>>540896148
>only one of my mains is S tier
fuuuug D:
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>>540897739
>donuts aren't visible through viscous' belly
missed opportunity
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>>540897543
>floral toilet brush
>scarlet tiles
haha anon lives at his grandma's
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>>540897082
>close quarters
just buy early burst (headshot booster > backstabber > cold front > spirit strike) to cheese out solo kills in the map (enemy jungle/sinners/whatever)
you don't wanna build gun damage on him, the stats are shit without items and he stacks it via his 3 if you just do your job
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>>540897739
who put viscous in the donut box?! *SLAP*
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>try to back up my lane partner
>he keeps fucking up and getting us killed
>abandon him the second laning is over and leave him to his tard quests solo
>the rest of us turn it around
never entrust your life to randoms
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Laning as Victor can be so painful. Had a game where I was against a vindicta and mina in lane and I wanted to pull my fingers off.
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>>540897739
there's no way viscous is OP anyway, I'd give him a B at the most

I just don't think his whole mystic+express shot combo is that crazy
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>>540881970
>completely useless vs any ranged character unless he suicide bombs them
ok
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>ERmm just go spellbreaker against yamato, chuddie???
>w-what do you mean she deletes it by right clicking you with mystic shot? YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO REVEAL THAT
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>>540898116
>"no way Viscous is OP"
>insane damage and scaling from start to finish
>alt fire mystic shot wins lanes by itself
>anti-CC and i-frames and heal that can be cast on any allies
>puddle punches trigger spirit snatch and serve as an insane movement tool
>goo ball makes you practically immortal at 60% resistances and guarantees escapes up until lategame and CCs
yeah ok
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>get the meta ivy rushing capacitor on the enemy team
>we get the dynamo that never presses 4

stop
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>>540898429
>counterspell
nothing personnel, yamato-san
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>>540864559
New player here, teach me your ways
I often get shit on during the laning phase and stuff snowballs, I go Jumpstart first and try to stay alive but it's heal is kind of shit and other characters can trade damage effectively against my early game
Should I just fuck off and farm creeps during early game?
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>>540896389
You must be playing a different game then because my teammates would rather stay 30 seconds farming jungle camps than going into a lane where the creeps are all pushed up against a walker
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>>540898037
>that billy
i'd be too ashamed to go back to that lane
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I haven't fought one yet but Gun Doorman scares me from the footage I have seen.
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>>540899007
why? he got mina ulted and that's ultimately what led to his death
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>>540898037
say what you will about his balance but i think they did a great job with his design and animations. His jumpstart animation is great with the lightning effect
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>>540899081
it's aggressively shit, there is nothing to fear.
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so what do I buy as billy in order for my gun to actually do damage
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>>540899081
most of them can't aim or instantly lose when you introduce movement because his bullets are slow as fuck.
just don't get carted into a wall for the stun but this applies to any flavor of doorman.
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>>540899158
mina ult has nothing to do with him not backing up 1m further to avoid getting stunned from victor ult
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>>540898015
>take good fights but matchmaking put me with some unknown rank
>constant 1v2 fights while they spectate and ask what you are doing
>laning ends and you become thanos after being unshackled from your deisgnated pussy retard
>win with top of every stat and no more deaths than what you had in laning

its just that shrimple
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>>540898409
take the majestic leap pill
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>>540838682
He would make more sense if his scarabs worked differently, like have the first activation have them orbit you and they fly out as you, then they either home in one at a time at Djinn Marked enemies on release or all attach at once when you land a tornado.
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>>540899385
orange
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>>540899385
weighted shots and point blank
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>>540896446
How the fuck did you know a streamer made this list
That nigga had like 2 subscribers
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>>540888036
They're skilled in black magic
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>>540899158
his first death wasn't that bad but him getting the kill on victor only to immediately go in for the charge punch when victor was about to revive deserves shame
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No wonder everyone plays Haze. You can be dogshit at every single aspect of the game and if you press 4 every once and a while you get kills.
And if you can actually play the game she can easily take 1v2/3/4 fights
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do you think Vyper's got so many STD's that the moment you put your dick in you just start taking poison damage immediately?
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>>540898037
Victor's reload animation always makes me think his arm has fallen asleep and he's shaking it awake.
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>>540887848
The top rated Shiv build is Decay, Rapid Recharge, Tankbuster, Torment Pulse

You build survivability early and then buy like 2 whole spirit items and start chucking knives.
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>>540901263
She's a snake human monster thing so no STDs are compatible with her obviously
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>>540901263
spirit shielding, bro
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what is the lore with the creep camps
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>>540902058
They're called denizens so i guess they just live there
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>>540902058
new yorkers just look like that
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Paige is kinda fun ngl.
I wish i was better at her
Whars rhe build that isnt gun splitshot cuckery?
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>>540902151
except irl they'd only speak spanish
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>>540902325
full spirit vortex web
or full support bitch with divine barrier
pick your poison
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>>540900420
>>540900463
but then I run out of ammo
>melee
but then I get auto parry script'd and die
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>wraith tries killing me as billy
>heh i have counterspell i'll just parry the orb thing and then i'll kill you
>it connects from 10 meters away and instantly starts lifting
what the fuc
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>>540902925
buy fleetfoot and HMC
be less predictable
don't play billy if you don't want to gamble on punchies
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when are they going to update shivs animations so he actually slices during slice and dice instead of a weird headbash move

>>540902058
the entire premise of the game is that the supernatural event that introduced supernatural shit to earth 50 years ago is happening again (and thats why you can summon the patrons) so I would assume its just residual spooky entities coming from beyond the veil and instantly eating a cold front to the face
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Three more days until Halloween event.
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>>540903224
>ivy nerf as a spooky halloween surprise

KINO
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Vindicta remake when? She is trash
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>>540903115
his full rage afterimages should look something like this
with slices going through the air
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>>540903496
I feel like this every time I land 2+ shiv ults back to back
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>>540903387
I wonder what they'll nerf. I'm gonna bet the kudzu because that's what lets her farm so efficiently. I think the gun would be short-sighted because it is only as powerful as it is right now because of Capacitor, but by itself is quite mediocre.
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>>540903496
would have to be a quick animation since that could potentially be too much visual clutter

>>540903670
probably kudzu + capacitor nerf altogether
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>haha lash joke no.39449582.
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>>540904091
missed opportunity to pair with a wojack
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>>540904091
the lash does not concern itself with employment
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Viscous is disgustingly overtuned
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>>540904863
your parry key?
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>Mina calls Arin they
I thought she hated pocket?
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>>540904863
viscous is viciously overtuned
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>>540905432
vicious is viscously overtuned
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game does not like when you have more than 2 of the punchy buffs
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im just going to smurf until they fix matchmaking
this shit is DOGSHIT, and I don’t think I’m getting better at the game
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>>540906197
>wahh wahh i'm fucking rancid shit I can't improve
>so i'm gonna beat up on lowbies!
you're a faggot pedophile and have never sniffed anything above aclhemist.
you're a cancer and a plague and you deserve the worst.
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>>540905279
>she hates pocket so much she respects his fake pronouns he uses to hide his identity to get people to hate him

diabolical
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>>540905279
Not all cunts are transphobic.
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Gun Kelvin is the most fun ive had with this game in forever
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>>540907510
lol?
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>>540885627
>tfw I want to get his haircut but I can't because I have seborrheic dermatitis
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>>540906197

Matchmaking is working fine. You're just a mid player who sweated into a rank you don't deserve.
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>>540907771
I wanna get shiv's hair
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>>540899343
his animations look like a roblox mod nigger what are you talking about
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deadlock has changed
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>>540908853
this guy is a bottom btw
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>>540908037
if you sweat and rank up then you deserved it.
if you casually rank up you were smurfing whether on purpose or shitty placement.
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>>540909043
aint nothin wrong with that
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>>540907771
damn that's just admitting your an incel
googled that look and that's every incel
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>can't stop playing different heroes
>over two/thirds the cast is fun af to play
>know improvement would happen faster sticking to three
what's the play
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>>540909306
yeah i'm an incel
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nvm anons WERE right, drifter feels hard as fuck to play and not feed like a retard on
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>>540909043
only for my older sister
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>unfunny redditor in game
>it's always a mo&krill player
explain this
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>I will never play Abrams/Lash/Dynamo because fags love them
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>>540909743
hey now, it's not just mnk players acting like retards on chat
let's dog on lash and drifter some as well
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>>540906606
I am only helping accelerate the fix to matchmaking thougheverbeit
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>>540909469
based
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>>540909316
games are for fun and rank means less than dick right now
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>>540898547
BEHOLD, CAPACITOR!
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>>540909834
why did you leave out doorman
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>>540909743
this is known as the (quirk)chungus effect, any large character is always populated by r*dditfags
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>>540910092
>only two characters in the game can build this item
lol
lmao
nice item bro
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Does the patron even do anything when creeps are on highground? Seems like it just shuts down, doesn't beam or anything.
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>>540910245
This item doesn't stop you from buying it as any hero. Stop lying you faggot and lrn to play
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>>540909743
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>>540898547
puddle punch is parriable
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>>540910505
>>540910505
>>540910505
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>>540910334
>Capacitor doorman
how does it feel to never be above alchemist, lil bro
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>>540909156

If you're reaching "emotionally overinvested and crying on 4chan" levels of sweat, you don't deserve it.
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>>540910593
Don't project your low elo on to me. Learn that capacitor is a TOOL to assist you or your team. Doorman is a util support and would actually benefit this. I can tell you're low elo because you play selfishly and not for your TEAM to WIN in a TEAMBASED game.
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>>540910120
doorwoman(male)
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>>540912581
they both died 5 more times



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