Most Popular Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>540746627
>>540838049Please kill yourself nigger
good but i wish her boobs looked better in that
>want to try mirage>check builds>they're all generic le gun hyper carry>has nothing in his kit to compliment going gun????
gonna summon the janny again
>>540838682his scarabs apply up to -16% bullet resisthybrid is probably the play for mirage
>>540838682Huh? He’s heavy gun leaning
>>540838682What are you achieving by not going gun?
>>540838846I guessI feel like it makes more sense to build spirit and try to tank up and let actual gun characters take advantage of the minus resist. play around the team and brool in with his tornado and scarab health
>>540839170>relying on teammatescome on now.
>>540839263if I had delusion expectations of 1v11ing my games I'd be picking infernus or seven
>>540838682Mirage brain breaks most people. his first build was echoshart tornado which was nerfed 10 times even tho it was actually ass and a massive skill issue, rushing echoshard is a meme. you can stun him between the tornados because its a knockupIm still shilling bruiser/tank mirage with duration, but a fun alt build you can try is the fight flipper, you get cold front/Heroic aura/alch fire/healing nova and pop them all instantly when you ult in
>>540839170I've played around with more utility and spirit items instead of going for orange items since you don't need high attack speed to continuously proc Mark, but you're still primarily using your gun.
>>540839389You're right but Mirage is kind of a dead weight hero right now. He does nothing.
>>540839170How low can you get the tornado cooldown?
How does one get gud with the semen demon?
>>540839596Surely his ult can perform some kino moves
>>540839449>bruiser/tank mirage with durationhad the same thought. sounds good on paper. post build?>fight flipperalso thought of this but the ult CD is so damn long
>take all three guardians and lose one in the push for the third>Haze died defending it>cusses out our entire team and DC'd>reconnects three minutes later and topscores in souls, kills, damage and objective damageWhat goes on in the mind of a Haze
>>540839697skill bombthrow bomb
>>540839712his ult has the unique ability to give him absolutely no edge in lane when he hits 3400 souls
>>540839712in competitive he is used a lot because of his ultin pubs he is borderline useless
>>540839821haze players all have 20000 hours in fps and can bruteforce their way to a win sometimes cause of it
>>540839697Press 1
squeashies like haze shouldn't have a hard cc
>>540840176simply make her squishier
>>540839883>>540840091>initiates still talking about bomb GeistShe’s a gun tank
>>540840250oh yeah if it was up to me I'd cut her hp in half
does the resist reduction from weakening/crippling headshot increase the damage from the shot that applied it?
>>540839697Have the following>4k hours tf2 ambassador spy or OW McCreeThere you are now good at geist.
>>540839897>die>can teleport back faster than zipping
>>540840574>die again
Didn’t check if thread was overwhat am I supposed to do when left lane feeds 20 kills before laning phase is over and the two of them managed to be 4/32/4 by the end of the game? How are we meant to win. How am I meant to handle a drifter that thinks he can take on the world and dives against the Haze and Lash he and his buddy just handing a tens of thousands of souls lead to?
The black woman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>like clicking heads>hate everything else about holiday's kithotpoo assassinated the headshot character and now I'm going to die a mainless khv
>>540840765why do you think you should be able to win that game
>>540840961vindicta
>>540840961Doorman unironically or Geist
>>540840961play gun geist
>>540840286Post your build then buddy
>>540840989because pisslows overhype le 1v11 smurf carry as if he can win that game.
>>540840961Just build her gun? It’s great.
>>540838174kek
I wonder when we are getting something like this in the game
>>540841505Maybe post release but I really can't imagine them having more than four skills.
>>540841636yeah but i guess upgrading the ult or other abilities would be fun
>>540841505I feel like the entire item skill imbue system (as well as items like divine's kevlar and lightning scroll) is a replacement for aghs type effectsi could see them implementing alternative skill upgrade trees like dota facets way down the line though
>>540839907has any team with mirage actually won recently?
>>540840989NTA but the question was plainly rhetorical.>>5408407654/32/4 collectively or they both had over 30 deaths?>feeding DrifterI both do and don't understand it, I've had some games on Drifter where early and early mid game went poorly and I was negative because the other team had my number and were ready to respond any time I decided to show up but I've never once ended a game negative because when that happens you just stick with your team and you'll still get stacks, just have to watch for opportunities like someone low trying to back out of the main brool zone and ending up qualifying for isolation.
>counterspell's iframes don't go up by .2 seconds with superior durationfucking scammed
Does Swift Striker and Burst Fire stack, if they both build from Rapid Rounds?
>learn about dinner sacrifice>average souls per minute goes down because I leave every time slots spawnI don’t know if this is making me stronger or weaker. Maybe they should get rid of this.
>>540842669duh
can you guys post ivy pics so I can add them to my folder thanks
>>540842796kill minion wavego for sinners before the next wave shows upsame principle as box farmingnot that hard
>>540842796>type this post out without noticing the typoyeah it’s a monday
I know it's lash's thing but billy's slam also not scaling with height is kinda dumbsince it obviously combos with the charge that sends you up and is an initiation tool maybe it's radius should scale from height?
>>540842862
>>540842945That doesn’t seem physically possible. I’d lose a minion or two due to the time it takes.
>>540843063She would never
>>540843124if you're a slow character yesbut if you're something like ivy or seven that nukes a wave
>>540839745I was searching for the build but just realized his mark application is affected by cdrIf you Transcendent cooldown and enchanters emblem you can get it down to 1.5s which is an idealized 6 seconds to max stacks instead of 10, pretty huge ,even more if you go spellslinger
>>540843242Hmmm maybe I shouldn’t be doing it on everyone then. I’m sure it’s mostly worth doing on characters like those two where the small increments of fire rate carry into lategame wins
>>540843319also keep in mind if your teammate is solo in lane while you're picking up boxes he gets full souls instead of it being split between you twoso if you know your laner can hold his own for 15 seconds you're up over 200 souls for free
>>540843580I noticed that but I have a bad habit of going for every single machine if I notice nobody else isI’m not sure if the stats are worth the 700gold or whatever I’m missing. And it’s too obtuse for a random person to answer without all the context, im just being autistic in the void
>>540843124No it really isn't. You don't have to go for every sinner, just the ones near your lane.
>>540843276With all 3 of those items you have 1.06s between application for 4.2 seconds to max 12x multiplier
>>540843921Muh stats… true though
I need to take a break man, keep losing games because every match has two guys that feed hard and then refuse to play safe after ending up behind. You don't need to risk everything for kills in lane ffs.>>540842030Drifter had 21 deaths 4 kills, seven had 11 deaths 0 kills.
>>540844000can you stop thinking with your noodle dick for just 30 seconds
>>540844195
>>540843869kinda why you see people in DNS autistically fight over the 2 pennies from the t1 camp next to lane at minute 2
>>540844227It’s my money and I need it now
>>540844225BASED
>>540844000>>540844279thanks>>540844225nice pic but armpits are gross
>>540844775This is one of those formats that only worked with the original meme
>>540844775It's true though. Instawin if he gets farmed.
>>540842796Literally just macro, bro, don't go for sinners unless your wave isn't clashing or about to clash. Same principle with box runs or grabbing bridge buff (unless the enemy is sacrificing their wave souls to try and get it before you). If you're in lane when they pop up at 8 minutes, just make sure your wave is pushed up - you don't lose souls from their wave, they have to clear your wave so they are not likely to come after you doing sinners (unless you're being cheeky and trying to steal theirs), the only thing that can go wrong is not comming to your lane partner so they don't do something stupid like try and dive tower while the wave has aggro but you aren't there to cover them. On thay subject, I'd add "if a dive kill seems possible" to another reason to not do sinners when your wave is pushed. It's always better to try that over backing off for sinners because a kill means you can still do sinners immediately after, possibly even stealing theirs.
creep waves spawn every 30 secondsask yourself>will this take me more than 30 seconds?if no, do it then return to the wave. if yes, ask yourself>is this worth more than a wave?
>>540843209She's a spic, she would 24/7
>enemy team has Victor and Seven>our Abrams and Billy just leave them alone and let them AFK farm>enemy team manages to stall the game until 30 minutes >both if them "Come Online" and we auto-lose in under 5 minutesWhy does no one harass the free farming hypercarries while they're weak?
>>540845984I don't know. Why didn't you?
>>540846082I did, but I can only do so much to stop both of them by myself on Geist.
>>540846082|:|:<
>thinking of playing a match>construction and shit going over across the road for awhile>power suddenly goes outwell guess that isn't happening i just wanted to play some victor guess i'll just doomscroll on my phone
>>540844775>>540845113>Victor in in-house feeds three times in a row in lane >says “I will not die again”>wins game 10/3Victor is useless until he goes online
>>540844775>he doesn't rush refresher just to dive the enemy tower twiceishygddt
>>540845717>>540844225Thats disgusting
Idk what I'm doing wrong we just keep losing even when I have good farm, player, and obj damage.
does ivy have nipples under her suspenders or no
>>540847289No.
>>540847354how do you know
Gonna try doorman for the first time gun or spirit?
>>540847668spirit that becomes stunbot after 30 minutes
>>540847639
>>540847248i was wondering wtf those tumors are and i looked up the artist and he's got a fetish for obscenely huge pecs
>>540847354>>540847442how the fuck do you know
>>540847850stones can't lactateright?
>>540847248i thought it was a reference to that buff engi meme
>>540847920she has eyes and a mouth and tongue and organs
What time do the inhouse be
Giving boobs to Ivy makes her so unattractive
>>540848187Giving her big ones*She should have cute small ones.
Valve is losing billions by not making this.
>>540840961hopoo didn't make or balance holliday thobeit?
>>540848581they don't need troonbucks
feet>boobs
>6 loss streak>always top performer on team if not whole match:)Maybe my mistake is never playing gun carries to physically drag mouthbreathers to a win.
Guess the hero!
>>540849456Vyper?
>>540849456paige
>>540849456McGinnis
>>540849456yamato?
>>540849456viscous
>>540849537>>540849567>>540849568>>540849725>>540849828Nope, it's Viscous! He was the only person on the enemy team with a positive KDA.
>>540849865>Nope, it's Viscous!bitch. >>540849853
>>540849853Damn, off by a few seconds.
>>540847798Downsides?
>>540848890I had this happen to me the other week. I played gun carries and still lost because I can't win when the enemy team also has gun carries that are actually human, but my teammates are basically infinite soul generators for them.
>>540847784Oh thats cute in a good way. Must be a reference to their ingame dialogue
>>540850361https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/conversations/e8500c77e559b9278eb3f9fefd2ee58b/
I have managed to kill a hero before the game even started
I genuinely don't understand why even make pocket a "they"?Is it because there are multiple frogs in his pocket?Idk but out of all the retarded identity politics terms they picked the most retarded.He's obviously male, talks male, dresses male, but "isn't sure what he is" or some shit?If they really wanted to pander this desperately, they could've chosen one of the more popular, albeit worse, terms like trans, or ace or agender or take your pick they're all stupid.Also, they could've done this for literally any of the other characters that aren't exactly human, like seven for example, since he wants to shed his humanity, including gender, or something to that affect.No wonder his dad shot him.
Am I useless if I don't go pure support Ivy? I've been going spirit but I wanted to try gun or healing too.
>>540850659Viscous would be even better since he's just a pile of goo at the moment
>>540844775>win match any time we get past 30 minutes>lose all victor matches before 30 minutes
>>540850703You're griefing if you're not playing Gun carry Ivy at the moment, because it's arguably the strongest build in the game period.
>>540850659it's coherent with they's character as a spineless, whinging rich kid twerp
>>540850659pretty sure its because hes possessed or some shit (the suitcase)so its "they"
>play stomp dynamo + friend heal paige>8 wins in a row1) genuinely this seems like a good pub strat, the raw heal and damage from paige and dynamo just automatically tilts teamfights in our favor or something and we just win2) stomp dynamo is hilarious, you just throw a stomp in a random corridor and then suddenly haze died from mystic reverb3) jesus christ the stomp hitbox is ass
>>540848581Making what? Keychain thingies?
>>540851040that's what I was thinking that there are separate entities with him, but idk, the wiki is written by retards who write wikis so obviously they say he's non-binary, while the in game description is intentionally vague, deceptively almost
why is it that when you win the game gives you worsw teammates than better higher MMR ones
>>540843063Hey, I made that.
>>540851306The most damning thing is that Mina never refers to Arin as him, it's always they
>>540847248>PokuttiAbsolute patrician
Someone post that Ivy eating cement pic
>>540851151stomp dynamo is probably the most brain dead build in the game right nowconsistent, reliable, and pilots itselfstomp into paige root sounds annoying as fuck
>>540851306if i remember right its always been "they"i dont remember pockets lore referring to him as "him"alternatively its because "pocket" is just an identity taken on to hide from his father or whatever the fuck i forgetso its "they" because pocket is like some sort of "im just an anonymous entity" type aliasalternatively alternatively pocket has a pussy
>>540851306I think he is a gender freak since by this point Valve has been thoroughly infested by furfags and millenial writers as evidenced by latest Dota2 entries. At this point might as well assume the worst.
>>540851458Stomp combos well with paige but it's more that i provide like 2500 AoE damage and possibly 1000 heal while paige provides like 1500 AoE damage and i dunno, 4000 heal/shields. And that's disregarding the massive AoE disable ultimates and constant knockup/root spam. Meanwhile if someone is playing mina or some shit the added value is more dependent on skill or circumstance.
My actual in game rank is seeker / alchemist
>>540851668that was one of my explanations for it as well, that it's supposed to be a secret identity, but for one, they seem to be taking the schtick too seriously for it to just be for the identitylike... once you see him, know who he is, know who his father is, you're not going to call him a fucking theyeffeminate as he may be he's still obviously a manwhich brings us to your alternatively alternatively, which I also don't think is the case, purely off of his voiceit's so obviously male no pooner could mimic that, and if they decided to come out and announce he's trans, the gender gremlin troglodytes would tear valve apart for not hiring an actual ftm to voice him
>>540852308i said the pussy thing as a jokebut it could be the classic trope of girl faking being a guysheik zelda blah blahinstead of actually being some trans type thing
Holy fuck
>first time doorman>14/0/20Oh my god doorman feels incredible to play. Need to get better at actually making use of his doors though.
>>540852643so when we getting dazzle to make viktor S+++ all ranks?
>>540838682And what IS he built for anon? tell me. Because he has no spirit nukes, no DoTs, no abilities that continually output spirit DPS. The only ability he has that works as a support is his tornado. The conclusion is that his kit allows him to be very good as 1v1er leaning on gun for his damage output. His passive slows enemies slightly and gives him vision if they're out of his site, his scarabs increase his gun damage and heal him, his tornado has invincibility and can keep most enemies still for a pretty long time, and his ult lets him get out of jail free or turn any 1v1 into a 2v1. He's one of the best split pushers in the game
>cultist sacrifice always gives 320 souls>cooldown reduced by 50% when targeting large creeps, 25% for mediumsfixed the item for you yoshi
>>540838049I have met my first hacker.
>>540852643Why you building leech with no gun damage though
>fix mirageScarabs can be built for huge DoT. If any enemy dies under scarabs, applies scarabs to nearby enemies.
>>540853447NTA, but I can understand wanting medium constant lifesteal instead of situational high lifesteal.
>>540853264incredible
>>540851434
>high rank streamer on your team>they go 1-7 on an offhero>they don't speak the entire game>open vod and they're talking to chat and clearly mentally checked out of the matchevery time
that's what you get
>lose 8 in a row>win 8 in a rowi wonder what my next 8 games will be!
>>540854113streamers suck, all of them no exceptions. being a "good" streamer means gimping your own gameplay.
Why are drifter players always just the worst. They're either dogshit, assholes, or both.
>>540854342unfortunate Mo pressed the skill button after you
>>540854518proteus effect
>>540854518playing the hero a lot recently I can just say he is actually hard to do something on without getting stacks and having a bad team
>>540854518it's the infernus for me, farming niggers which need 5 6400 items to come online and MAYBE push
>>540851746kez was more directly inspired by zelda botw than furshit tho.
>>540853506He doesnt need fixing, he is debatably balanced
too many russians in this game why
>>540853264>driftercolor me surprisedscum the lot of them
>>540855976they flock to valve titles
>>540853748Nice
>>540856096yeah but I expected the increased graphical demand to filter their looted pc out
>>540856235they have no problem gaming at sub 60fps
>>540856235game can run a steady 60fps on total potato settings even if your pc is shit
make deadlock cost $60 and it'll solve the poor worlder problem
>>540840286It still plays well in ritualist
>>540856513hmsell game for $60 or sell singular skins for $60+...
>>540856617and the battle pass for $70+
>>540852643Most unga character ever
I FORGOT HOW MUCH THIS STINKS
Post match history
>>540855721>its one flavour of furfaggotry and not the other one so its different!Nah fuck off
>>540856048I like him. I understand a lot of people see him as Shiv 2.0, but he's definitely much worse than Shiv was at his best, but that doesn't change the fact that he feasts well on shitty players and ruins the game for the good ones on the other team.For what it's worth, the character is the most fun for me when the other team is competent. Playing games of cat and also cat with people trying to bait me into a gank is a hoot.
>>540856297>>540856342The one and only time I regret Valve optimising their games>>540856734Forget it, its all shitty lootboxes with 3 tiers of skin rarity now.
>>540853645I suppose the spirit lifesteal is higher on leech when infuser isn't active yeah, but I feel building at least 1-2 cheap T2/T3 gun items is better if you're going that route
>win 5 matches in a row>ding dong the state-mandated losses have arrived>red streak currently at 6 with no signs of ending any time sooni managed to climb up to alch 5 and now im already back in 3, i dont want to have to play with newbies with 0 moba/macro knowledge again D:
>>540840961
>>540848597Come on man just let the guy have a scapegoat
>>540856958valve is definitely more full of nintendo fanboys than furries I think
>>540856513God I wish. If they made it at least $20 it would solve so many problems.
>>540857075>ruins the gamecrumples to CC too hard to really be an issue at higher elos, even if he's fed and has big stacks. I think a snowballing spirit mo is more of a threat.
So how do I pull people down in the air with Lash's ground strike? I always have it happen to me but whenever I play him I never can do it?
>play Doorman>try different builds>all feel miserable, suffer in lane, 0 impact post lane>maybe the hero just sucks?>back to the reliable ol' Abrams I guess>get sent to a lane with a Doorman, he gets fed instantly, push lane without a hitch, win in 30 minsSometimes you just need a reminder to hate the player not the game
>>540857624I repeat: this is all the same shit. I don't care if furniggers are coming from goytendo or from somewhere else, the result is the same.
>>540858262I hate furries, but that has never stopped me from enjoying starfox
>>540856513When is the last time Valve sold a multiplayer game? CS:GO?
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN REGARDLESS OF HIS POPULARITY IN THE META
>>540856513i would be down with that even as a third worlder.>>540858563yeah but alter they made it free anyways. it would be good because at least during the first years you would probably only play with people that were interested in the game for real, probably climb the ladder before it went f2p and all the retard poorfags join.
Anyone got a decent tank-support-spirit hybrid Kelvin build?
>>540858021you mean the dive kick?
>>540858021Just have to be right on top of them as you are coming down, but be forewarned that not only is the hit detection on it super sketchy and prone to sync issues, you often won't know you did drag them down for like half a second, they'll just pop up in front of you before you land as the whole interaction catches up.
>>540858021You need to collide with them in the air, it's the same as Ivy's tone form. Probably best to go into the testing lobby, set up a vindicta/grey talon with max duration on their flight and control them to make them go into the air then just practice getting above them with stamina, warp stone and grapple
Made a pic with all the ways duration affects mirageThe wiki is great with these little icons I had no idea you could reduce his mark application with cdr
Slowly fixing my total winrate. Games are progressively getting harder though due to ranking up. I'm worried after 1-2 more color rank changes games will get too hard and my winrate will plummet again... I just want to be above 50% bros
>>540858092Abuse doorman bell in lane that shit its like a truck if you hit a player directly and explode on top, it doubledips from spirit Same for carts
why so many russians pretend to be american on their profile
>>540860305The same reason they kicked up a huge fuss when Valve relegated them to their own servers (this has happened on Dota 2 and Deadlock, not sure about CS)
>>540860396man why valve listens to them, not like they buy anything
>im phantom>phantom lobbies>i reach ascendant>theres not enough ascendant+ rank players>so instead of ascendant+ lobbies>1/2/3 ascendant/eternus players each team>everyone else archons/oracles>coin flip shit stomp worst quality matches ive ever played
What's your roster and what does it say about you?
>>540860538Half of the playerbase is ziggers.
>>540860615My man, just wait until you get thrown into games where the team averages are Archon (you will have Infernus building escalating exposure right out of lane type shit)
>>540841505I have a feeling we'll get alternate weapons ala TF2 before we get AGHS upgrades.
>4 russians on teamGuess I'll do it myself.The sub humans even had the gall to tell me "shut up" when I was shot calling because they wanted to keep talking in Russian.God damn it how disgusting is Ginnis. Bitch stole my perfect end screen. Guess that one death is screwing it up too but it was literally 1v6 and 5 ults used. That's what I get for being a naughty little backdoor rat desu.
>>540860615>be phantom >eternus streamer seething at me for not doing what he says>call him a niggerThese lobbies are shit but it's fun to watch the top .001% of the playerbase seethe at me for only being top 5% and how terrible I am at the game because I don't bend over backwards to suck his dick. I play the game for fun nigger lmao
>>540860769Mine is "I can't aim and don't like confrontation"
>>540860769I like winning more than I like having fun
>>540856513Nah, make it 20.It would discourage cheaters, third worlders and smurfs all the same.And it's a valve title so no matter what, millions will buy it regardless. It's sure to make a profit either way.They get to keep the game clean, while also not needing to inject garbage like skins or a battle pass.Actually, if there's no skins or a battle pass, I would pay even 60. Guess I'm a buck broken little goy afterwards, but I'm so fucking sick of these gaming trends.
>>540861273>Actually, if there's no skins or a battle pass, I would pay even 60. Guess I'm a buck broken little goy afterwards, but I'm so fucking sick of these gaming trends.You might wanna check what company is responsible for setting those trends...
How do you cope with the fact that Deadlock will be free and therefore inevitably full of cheaters and slavs?
>>540861384Battle pass is a fortnite invention, so epic games?
>>540861465>inevitably it already is
>>540860829you see thats the thingi climbed with the intention of not seeing that guy againinstead i still have that guybut hes laning vs 2 eternus players>>540861050large problem going on right now i thinkhigh ranks are just full of FPS players0 MOBA experience they just aim checked people so rank went upthey are actually kinda retarded
>>540861465By living in America where there's no russians and few cheaters
>>540861465I said it before and ill say it again It should be 5$ per month
>>540861573We have the brown version of russians.
>>540860251So you need a direct hit and not just try for an aoe hit? Well damn
>>540861465>slavsPlease say russians/ukranians.Don't lump in the decent slavs in with the slugs.
>>540861502>Battle pass is a fortnite invention, so epic games?You might wanna take a seat, boss...>>540861537>but hes laning vs 2 eternus playersThat or he's chainfeeding the other Ritualist playing Mina and she shows up to your lane with 8 kills before 10 minutes. I got thrown into an Archon 2 lobby on US servers the other day, (Eternus btw) and it was a total shitshow, I had to go a retarded build to carry it
>>540861573They VPN to NA all the time THOUGH?
>>540861620No fuck you, I have goyscription shit. I'd rather pay $60 once than $5 for 12 months
>>540861465simply dont give a shit>>540861573there are cheaters in america they are just pussies and toggle/try their hardest to hide itrussians rage hack they dont give a fuck>>540861707wonder if the matchmaking is fucked because theres not enough players or because they havent finished itprobably both i guess
>>540861708I have 600 hours and have never met a Russian on my server. (West coast) >>540861660I'm pretty sure Latam has its own server because I've only met 1-2 mexicans while playing. Usually they're stacked. Compared to dota or the finals where I see beans every few games.
>>540862165I've been lucky as well and have only ran into 3 mexicans so far. Two were actually pretty good and the third would rage at the team in spanish.
>hover around alchemist/arcanist>feel like everyone has better aim than me to a suspicious degree>start checking peoples steam pages>private profile, private profile, smurf account with one friend, vac ban on record, chinese name in three different hacker groupsthis game is dead on arrival
>>540860769"I just want to goo"
>win game>rank does not go up>teammate skill and MMR actually go down>lose game>lose rankso is the best thing to do to have fun is smurf or never touch an objective? I can’t see why winning games through objectives is ever worth it anymore in a Yoshi nigger alpha playtest
>>540861708I wish I knew how to do that. Playing with other Russians sucks. Everyone is so toxic. The inhouse games give me a taste of what it is like to play with normal people. I miss when citadel_region_override worked.
>>540862987CS2ServerPicker on github. It also works for Deadlock
>>540862987FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
who should i play if i like to push lanes and not really pvp
>>540863136calico
>>540863136calicomcginnis
anytime I face an enemy doorman and they build gun it's literally a free win.
>>540863767>load in game>gunman, paige, calico on MY team>we loseyou should be able to pick which heroes you can avoid
>>540863136i push pretty well with ivy and vindicta
>>540853447I've just been experimenting with them. I think there are pros and cons to both. You actually do do a good bit of gun damage as Victor even with minimal gun items. Leech is also better for farming as you sustain better against camps using aura—usless you want to waste your infuser on NPCs.Personally I've found Infuser to be the winner in most cases on a spirit build for obvious reasons
>>540864112Not many debuff remover enthusiasts in your games that feel like making the Victor go back to dealing 0 damage when he's low HP?
why is everybody doing an unranked to eternus right now?why are they trying to kill the playerbase even more?and they're even fountain diving instead of ending the game.
>>540863767if they build for spirit it's the most annoying, boring, unfun game that you wish you could get out of asapthat bell sound is so grating to my skull, and it doesn't help he can cast it 6 times, doing 500 damage each time, plus whatever item effects he imbuedand just as you think you're going to get him as a close range hero he uses cart on you thrice, then escapes through a door that he set up five minutes prior and refused to go out of the range ofif he's on your team you can bet all the souls you have that he WILL ult the 1hp enemy to steal the kill, and he WILL save the enemy at least once by doing soand then on the enemy team it seems like he always ults you and the entire team gathers round, just waiting like a pack of rabid hyenas to get the already all but confirmed killdrifter should be based, but drifter players are cringe
>>540838049Don't Give Up On Victor EditionI'm still stuck on the red rank. Ritualist? Was Archon before. On Victor it's an up arrow. I usually get 4-5 winning streaks, then I suddenly get teams who sadly lose their lanes before the 8 minute mark. Enemies roam to your lane, you get ganked and then you can't get back on your feet. Anyone else get this? Games where I lose I get a lane partner who goes 20% health in the first 2 minutes of the game. Then the focus shifts on you. Some lanes you just can't win. With Lash, we dominated. Lash is a great lane partner.Got a lot of praise this match from communication. Even a "was fun playing with you man". Good vibes.
Why only 4 abilities?Why can't we get full MMO style pvp with like 15+ skills? Even with full active items you're still only at 8.I miss MMO pvp so much and not a single modern game can properly handle it.
>>540864112why didn't you try to remove seven stun with 2?
>>540844775oh man this hits hardt. almost 100 games now on Victorbut do consider: >>540864559
>>540864456smurfing homosexualsvalve should ban them all
>>540864559victor should have no orange itemsstop this delusion
>>540864559You're gonna start struggling if you ever get to a rank where players are aware that crippling headshot exists
>>540860226What' that site
>>540865014Tracklock.gg
>>540864559>Enemies roam to your lane, you get ganked and then you can't get back on your feetI've been playing victor almost exclusively now since I picked up deadlock again and when this happens I fuck off into the jungle and play extremely safefleetfoot has saved me so many timesif I see a lane is empty i will push it but no more than behind the enemy guardian line, then i look for another empty lane or safe jungle camps and sinnersafter a while I realize I can probably 1v1 someone, and try to pick the fight, but if they assemble a killsquad out of their ass I turn heel immediately.rinse and repeat until I am an unstoppable forceit seems like teams are willing to tolerate a permafarming victor because they know just how strong he can beif the enemy has a smart player that tends to invade jungle and kills me there a couple times, i start pinging like a madman for any assistance. if my team responds, we get a free kill and the enemy gets a nice lesson from pavlov, if they don't, i mute all and just keep hoping the invader missing from big fights is helping my teambut then again, i'm pisslow and nowhere near ritualist so maybe the experience differs
>>54086457115 abilities would either be overloaded or redundant; this is a game about strategy and being able to easily tell what an enemy is capable of is a good thing. Facerolling a bunch of generic buffs and damage spells is lame and gay.
I really hope next patch nerfs kelvin into the ground.
>>540864851They told me the same about Dynamo, but I didn't listen! And now I'm stuck in ritualist!This was a hybrid build. Early spirit which then goes into gun. Big problem with the build is: slots. Whole point of this build is lane protection, farming near it and pushing when ultimate is up. Don't be afraid to die with 0 unsecured souls. Protip: Victor can punch while dead. Look closely at damage here. >>540864857Victor is nothing but struggle on all ranks right now. He needs tweaks. >>540865536>I play extremely safeWise. I've done this too. Somehow though the Haze on the enemy team, or Drifter, just knows where I am and ganks me while in jungle. Teams seem to understand if you're a farming Victor, because he is the real Potential Man of Deadlock. Even gun build is terrible early due to his guns accuracy and bullet speed. His ultimate needs better upgrades that make a difference in fight. Every game I spectate, Victors don't level their ultimate much at all.
>keep winning matchesDreading the other shoe.
>>540865830>271 healing on jumpstart that earlyholy fuck
>>540865830i was being a little harshi will accept fleetfoot and frenzyif you are in the most late game match of all time spellslingerbesides those no gun items are viable on that heroberserker seems good but its actually bait
>>540866170laughs in blood tribute and spiritual overflow
>4+ people in this thread arguing about pockets pronouns>too retarded to read the actual lore>if they did, too retard to understand itIm not even going to explain it to you but I want you to know how retarded you look anyway. I hope you enjoy the troongoblins that have taken over your brain toxoplasmosis style. Its you who makes everything about transgenders, just as bad as they are.
who do i play if i wanna gunmaxx
>>540866153With charges, spirit and booster mind you. I was lucky I got the level while being hooked and quickly maxed out Pain Barrier to debuff remove the bomb.
>>540866382stop.>>540865830>>540866170keep doing what you want though im not the policesince you mentioned gun dynamo try this build283053dynamo has one of the best health per boon scalings in the gamedynamo 3 heals you for max healthheadhunter heals you for max healthsiphon bullets for giving you perma healthits very good
>>540866451he's clearly both pretending to be dead and rejecting the identity of his evil pop popnot a troon, but a whiny little bitch boy all the same
>>540866554If your cringe then ivy if based then vyper
>>540860769Right now I have Dynamo on highest priority, McGinnis on medium and Seven at lowest because he's a high pickrate character that I'm unlikely to get
>>540866554haze
>>540866554mirage
>>540866834Dynamo was my old Deadlock main and I stuck to gun builds. I know tricks on him most streamers are not aware. I stopped playing him though because of toxic players shouting at you for not doing amazing black holes in every game.
>>540866451and yet you're the only one obviously mad about any part of this
>>540867336I get tired of seeing the same group of monkeys fling shit in my enclosure everyday yes
Incinerate ivyniggers
>>540865784You've just never experienced it.
>>540865479Thanks
>>540866382I tried blood tribute and it's too micro heavy to get good value. It's basically a better "self damage" for berserker than your aura if you're gun build. In the game I posted earlier I did run into slot problem. Here's also some of the items I got. Main things were Leech and maxing Spirit.
>lose game>go up a rankI don't get it
>drifter>viktor>doorfag>on my teamdamn we really never stood a chance huh
People really do tend to underestimate Doorman in 1v1sIt'll be maybe a few minutes post-lane, I just got my max cart buff and I'll get challenged by a Warden or Holliday who proceeds to get their HP nuked because they got overconfident and tried to match me in a straight fight. Even better when I have a gun upgrade other than mystic shot to cannonball their head
>>540867783"Too micro heavy" just sounds like a skill issue 2bh
why does gun paige does so much fucking damage?
>>540868176split shot is ridonculous
So I guess I should play more Doorman uh
>lose 3>must be my build>lose 6>must be my positioning>lose 9>must be my target prio>lose 12>must be my macro>lose 15>must be my farming
>desperately need that one slot>"Guess I'll just do it myself and try get away with somehow."If there's any takeaway here it's the healing and survivability and solo Potential Man push.
>>540868176The frozen frogge thinks that spirit characters should have ridiculous gun scaling and vice versa
It's pretty gay how long range "shotguns" are in this game.
>>540868112It's micro heavy on Victor especially because you can't have it toggled on while using Pain Barrier, otherwise the healing from it is massively reduced. I guess that's what I meant. Also yeah, skill issue. I'm just a below average player ngl
>>540868370post the build id im gonna try it
>>540868275>THE doormanwhy does this little faggot think he's so special? like his wagie ass is that important
>>540868571He's on the same power level as the very guys we are killing each other to summon
>>540868474>fly into air>victor's fingers still hit you for full damage
>>540868331Must've been your hero mate.
>>540868910I meant drifter, they're the same fucking dude.Played by fags.
>>540868571I was always under the impression it was to make him seem even more insignificant. "I gave our luggage to the doorman," his existence mentioned in passing like that without dignifying him with his name
>>540868571Isn't he like literally satan?
>>540868571The doorman is more than his quantitative contribution, his value is qualitative and unmeasurable by numbers. When you see that smile holding the door open for you on a cold night after a long trip you will feel it.
>>540860769>Seven highest>Lash, Drifter, Paradox, Kelvin lowest
>>540868571The Patrons refer to him as an old friend.
>>540860769>Doorman highest>Pocket, M&K, Geist and ViscousI only play this game to give the enemy cancer
>>540852643this is just a bunch of retards who dont know how to play the game. much like nearly every victor clip
>our Victor doesn't do anything but farm for 20 minutes>gets solo'd by Calico who has 7k less souls than himHOWJUSTHOW
Another game, another drifter feeding the enemy 20 kills. I actually just fucking die inside every time I see one. Can I deprioritise a character to avoid matches teaming with them please. Like holy shit every drifter is a crayon eater.
>>540857075>but he's definitely much worse than Shiv was at his best,hard, and i do mean HARD disagree
>>540852643they managed to explode you on your first life because of 60% antiheal, but after that they weren't able to stack it high enough to stop you from healing
>>540869773Calico's bombs are overtuned garbage and she goes nigmode which negates Victor's whole kit of "standing next to you"
>>540864679I fogor. Usually a bit buzzed when playing inhouses desu-ne. I bought a bunch of ale for an engagment on Sunday so when the lobby was up I was already out of it
Who's more unga thoVictor or Abrams?
>>540868549It's just my own build so no ID to share but I can post a picture for you to make your own.
>>540856513Putting a price tag on a moba is downright suicidal, also lmaoing at the guys saying CSGO was Valve's last paid multiplayer game, people gave THAT little of a shit about Artifact, that game alone ensured they'll never attempt to put an entry fee on a multiplayer game ever again.
>>540870368Why not rush your 5th talent on your 1 after getting the extra HP on 2? Isn't the 20% HP on impact mega important?
>>540870564>5th talentI derped, i meant the "recover 20% missing HP" talent on pain battery
Inhousers?
>>540870361Victor is more skilled than abrams or yamato or billy or mo or ginnisIf not by gameplay alone (but very much gameplay too) then the macro required to play him without feeding your mind off
Slowing hex is such a piece of shit I will never buy that item AGAIN
>>540871057lol
>>540870979It's amazing for sustain, but doesn't help us farm and is situational. This build has spirit resistance early, so we go for the min/max upgrade instead. This helps us farm faster and last. The heal from 1 doesn't scale with spirit and sometimes you don't get those amazing 3-5 hits to heal a lot. Once we have aura min/max, we go for it. It's our 2nd maxed ability. That's really why. You can max it first if you want but I'm experimenting. I did what you said earlier a lot but I'm too mid to hit it on multiple heroes consistently to get value out of it.
>>540872329Forgot to mention that 20% missing health means to heal 100% of your missing health, you have to hit 5 enemies minimum. That only happens during Lash or Dynamo ultimate for me. If you hit one person you just get 20% of missing health, which does nothing or little when you're full or not missing much. It's really a clutch upgrade while having more aura damage helps in more situations.
>>540870361You tell me >>540870143
valve is being too quiet.... something big is coming
changing fov is cheating
>>540870985i hate indians.
>>540873309more Victor nerfs
>>540873334true
>>540873342That's nice
>>540873309>Ivy: -10 gun damage
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is billy in a good spot rn?ive played some games as him and it feels like he only really brings damage to fights and even then i feel like hes constantly being outdamaged by most characters
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE I HECKIN LOVE MINA DESTROYING THE WALKER IN 0.7 SECONDS!!!
>>540874195>is billy in a good spot rn?Yes, a really good spot even. >he only brings damagedo you know what his 1, 2 and 4 do?>i feel like hes constantly being outdamaged by most charactersHe's not outdamaging Haze or Seven but he does damage while being fucking invincible if you keep up your blasted buff
>>540841070Pretty much this. Funny thing about Frenzy is that the buff lasts a bit even after you've left the low health threshold.
>>540874195you buy like a few gun items on him, and he gets to 453 dpsunironically skill issue of aim
>shiv is still good guys, you just need to buy a bunch of t3/t4 items from every category, max out 3 of his skills, and spend the first 30 seconds of every teamfight aka the most important completely useless till you build up rage
>>540869773VIctor does dogshit DPS and can't 1v1 for shit. He only really does something when he's in the middle of the whole enemy team while they're already distracted by your own team.
is Enduring Speed shit? seems like a lot of schmovement players don't buy it, but people with worse movement do.
melee is so incredibly jank in this game. heavy melee time is increased when going up slops or when being knocked up, parries may or may not work at all depending on ping, sometimes light melee input registers as heavy, melee range is inconsistent etc. at this point its really just a meme building literally anything else is a better idea
>>540874748Sprint speeds is a bit of a meme as everything cancels it, not just damage taken. Its good for the slow resist but that's it
>>540874625>you buy like a few gun items on him, and he gets to 453 dpsdoubt
>>540874748You buy enduring speed when you need to be faster in combat or resist enemy slows. It's mid as a map traversal item
>>540874980Enduring gives ms not ss.
>>540874748fleetfoot or extra stamina usually better
>>540861050>saw a random wraith chimp out at someone who was flaming him last night calling him a tranny>he shut the fuck up and took the game seriously after thatkek was that you
>>540861050Don't forget to flame these monkeys indirectly at the end of a game you fucked their throats, really bruises their egos
>>540863042Thanks.
>4th match in a row drifter teammate that dies constantlyI actually don't think I want to play with this character in the game.
>>540838049Try gunbop. This is enemy team.What builds are good on him? I really liked bomb year ago but it seems useless now.
I think I like Bebop. And he is very quick to queue, for some reason.
>>540867870the only thing that actually matters to your rank is who you get in a lobby with, which is why none of the eternus players dropped rank, they get into matches with each other and it secures their mmr, meanwhile everyone below it has been steadily lowering rank because the lobbys are shitshows
which heroes make you go this if they're on your team?
>>540853690How do you play gun builds. I can't aim for shit and its even worse when half the enemy team has flying/escape artist characters.
>>540875742Haze.
>>540874579>mo bails instantly >leaving doorman to the wolves>doorman visibly panicsI can only imagine the comms
>>540875742mina because i know my walkers are gonna be in critical danger of being killed before anyone can react.
>>540875712>for some reasonLook at your damage compared to your teammates
>>540875712Also, I like how he just strikes fear during the laning phase.
>>540873865Currently 6/12 playersJ05K0
>>540874579>frenzy>fleetfoot>enduring speedhttps://youtu.be/PX7zPlQjAr8?feature=shared
Unironically whats the fucking point of Gun Doorman? Dude does 10000 damage with 1 ability in an aoe
>>540875742Sinclair, Haze, Drifter
I'm only ritualist. Can I post here?
>>540874748It's more of a counter item to slow heavy matchups. Enduring speed is also good for building into juggernaut which is decent anti-carry item because of both the raw regen and lowering enemies fire rate when you shoot them>>540874983It's very situationally better and you would buy it for it's passive rather than purely for it's active
>good evening sir, this will be your teammates for tonight's brawl
>>540876735most here are clearly initiate if you've been to an inhouse
>>540876735you are only allowed to post here if you are initiate
>>540876792more assists then deaths means they were at least trying to help, this looks more like the stats of a team that was just getting owned. post your own coward
>>540875823Literally aim or just use gun to push objectives instead.
How can they rework Victor so he isn't a fetus before 30k souls and have 90% of his kit countered by the Joestar Secret Technique?
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>>540877136make his first skill a low range hook
>>540877136Your concerns are heard! We nerfed the spirit scaling on his aura of suffering by 0.1 and gave him 10+ starting DPS on it. He still takes 100% self-damage. See you next year!t. Yoshi
>>540877042
I used to think paige was easy but then I got a teammate that used shield for no reason
>>540877042nta but don’t pretend that the paige is anything besides an elo terrorist People need to stop picking this supportcuck and being absolutely useless
what did valve mean by this
>>540877675paige can be really strong if you understand you're not playing tf2 medic or overewatch mercy and actually play the game
Shiv is still miserable to go against and I wish they would remove this nigger character from the game the current popular build on him (knife spam) is nauseating to play against
>>540877738windmill efficiency
>>540876785that seems like the only time it should be bought, is when you want juggernaut later to cope with some m1 carry like haze infernus.
this is why matchmaking is so shit
>>540877881required item on melee characters, also m&k, and kelvin.
>>5408772039/12J05K0
>>540877203NEED 3 J05K0J05K0J05K0
>>540878039blessed matchmaking
>>540877793Yes, but pisslow niggas don’t understand thatcan’t expect that out of troglodyte randoms
>>540878294you can't really blame them. her whole character design and kit feels like a support character.
>>540868474codtard
>>540876595One of Geist's major flaws is her not being able to capitalise on her own damage. Another one of Geist's flaws is her abysmal movement speed. Having the speed to chase (and flee) makes it so I can just stay on someone's ass until their dead. Also just good for farming and pushes.
>>540878227low prio, oceania, or 3am?
>>540878407>shotguns in a video game with ghosts, vampires, goomen, and zombies must be realistic instead of balanced>muh imulsion
>>540878227no idea. i was just looking at someone's profile because he played really well and was clearly not from my rank. then i found this lmao
>try out Calico to see how OP she feels>she has a 100% uptime speed racer ability that can also activate shiva's guard to kill creeps
>>540878190STILL NEED 3 MOTHERFUCKERS
J05K0Let's complete a ritual...
>>540878785>100% uptimeNot really. And CF doesn't even do enough to kill
Your challenge: try to exist in your own jungle when the enemy team has Mo, Abrams, Kelvin, or Calico
don't even care anymore man
What are Mo's weaknesses? Seriously.Every single one of his cooldowns needs to be tripled
>>540838682I tried doing spirit build with him and it just felt super weak compared to just gun stuffdid they nerf his Djin's mark? i could have sworn it did a billion damage mid game and onwards
>End Laning phase with enemy haze at 10/0>Our Drifter is 0/8Easiest abandon of my life.
>>540879073i'm making freedom patties with cheese sorry
>>540879183The fucker deals 0 damage after 8 minutes
>>540879183hes big and round. % damage fucks him up too.
>>540875823In a macro sense gun builds are always applying pressure while spirit comes in bursts around cds. You basically always want to be shooting abd that's how you can pass any purple build in dmg
>>540879183Mo is actually easy to counter you just need antiheal, slowing hex or knockdown, a mobility item to escape his ult, be 10k souls above him, and be 3v1ing him
>>540878057I don't see people buying it on Abrams and Shiv consistently though.
>>540878227how do you see this
>>540879260scourge and EE make your point completely mute
>>540878598Shotguns IRL have way more effective range retardkun
>>540879158me but with lash
>>540879512It's a matter of preference on Abrams honestly· Shiv's alt fire and 2 are enough for most skilled Shiv players
>>540879529statslock, just search nay match
>>540879303They fuck up literally any character, except other characters get fucked by flat damage AND do not have the second best escape in the game on a 10 second cooldown AND a way to disable M1 heroes AND a point&click ult that allows him to temp or flatout wins during 1v1
>>540878039>>540878227reminder, fake rank website.
>>540879183infernus shooting him with toxic bullets
>>540879607Yeah bro I am sure the Mo with Scourge and EE is out damaging the Calico with Scourge and EE
>>540877796knife build sucks ass. shiv buys a ton of items, fully upgrades his knives, waits over a minute to get all his knife charges ready, tosses them at one guy (in rage they bounce to hit some nearby minions too) and does less dps then half the characters just M1ing on you for the same investment
>mo and krill downplayers
>>540879805>what aboutismnot disproving my point
>enemy at our door>idiot goes out and dies>leaves the game>we wipe the enemy>we push down their shit>winSo do the leavers still get a win? Does valve even bother to ban people if you report them? These faggots need to be punished for their behavior.
>>540880078If your benchmark for a hero starting to deal damage is two T4 late-game items that a typical Mo cannot afford to buy in a regular game, then yeah
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>mo and skill do no dmg!!>holds you in place for six people to pummel you with headshots>wtf?! I am at the spawn screen now?!?>55+% winrate btwI am beginning to think some people in this general just spend their free time being a contrarian instead of finding employment and contributing to society
>>540880596>>holds you in place for six people to pummel you with headshotsWho's the 7th teammate?
>>540880171>he wont be able to buy 2 of his core items because.... HE JUST ISNT OKAY??"even bigger retard than i thought. also a goalpost move. congrats
>>540879614Yeah but this is a video game.
>>540880596>I am beginningYes, you are
>Map wide AoE disarm that lasts forever>Tankiest hero in the game>Maybe the best escape in the game>Best kill confirm in the game>Low CDs on everything>Hypermobile and can be across the map in no timeHe has le... big hitbox though so it's balanced
>>540880692>>he wont be able to buy 2 of his core items because.... HE JUST ISNT OKAY??"Real games of Deadlock played by actual human beings end at 30-35 minutes, that's only enough time for a single T4 on a typical Mo game if you've not been fed 20 kills for some fucking reason. There are too many core items you need to buy on Mo to not fall off in teamfights that you cannot afford to be saving 6400 souls for Escalating Exposure when dealing damage to the enemy is not your job
>>540880489TWO
>>540879737I am both Initiate and Ascendent.
>>540880786Maurice is definitely on the Epstein list
Shiori Novella Paige mod.
Statlocker is decently accurate and until Valve releases rank / match data (they won't because it'll show how embarrassingly bad the current system is) it's not a bad thing to go off of.
>>540880681Mo, of courseHe is pummeling you in combo
>>540880786>Low CDs on everything>3/4ths of his spells are 40< seconds CD?
>>540880835please fuckign kill yourself so i never have to get monkey like you on my team
>>540875742Ivy, Paige, Billy, Victor Haze. Ivys on my team are always fucking Kudzu instead of gun. Paiges are always fucking Gun and I had a melee one last night, instead of support, Haze Victor and Billys on my team are just retarded walking soulbags.
>>540881074How are you calling me a monkey when you cannot even parse the information you are presenting to me that literally agrees with the post you're trying to disprove
love him or hate him Mo is the only anti-carry in the game
why do victor's animations look him look so autistic and retarded
>>540881269nta but you argue in bad faith and opened with a no true scotsman fallacyyou lost all credibility immediately
>>540881297Paradox, Holliday, and Doorman exist though
>>540881420Credibility or not he just posted proof against his own argument and doesn't even realise it
>>540881297he's just an engage tank
>>540881269sorry the retards in pisslow dont buy the item that people who know how to play the character do? Just goes to show what elo you're in if you disagree with the statistics
>>540838049>It's still upShe won.
>>540879702>They fuck up literally any characterbut not nearly as much as mo, who has point for point the most health at every point in the game. shiv can execute him with nearly 1k health left in the endgame and decay is unavoidable 80-100 dps + massive healing penalty
>>540881439Believe it or not, doorman is not actually an anti-carry. Unless you've focused on your 2, neither is paradox. Holiday is though, but shes in kind of a rough state.
>>540881572The statistics literally show less than a third of all Mo&Krills are able to buy one of those items, let alone both at the same time. Does Spirit Burn being on there, an item Mo can only proc if he's fully kitted with Scourge, EE and a shit load of CDR, not make that blatantly obvious to you?
I don't know how to phrase this properly but does anyone know if I proc love bites with Rake, does the Rake dmg happen after the love bites?
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>>540881308because he his. how would you feel after you've been dead for who knows how long and then suddenly came back to life
>>540881692>Holiday is in a rough stateLmao
>>540881692>Believe it or not, doorman is not actually an anti-carry?
>>540881905I think Victor's voice lines imply he's an entirely new consciousness but I could be wrong
This was miserable. Pretty much everyone was a fucking retard who didn't know what to do. And that Mina was just bum rushing the guardian and dying immediately. I thought she was griefing, but she ended up a menace towards the end of the game. And one time, we got the rejuv, but Infernus and Calico just went back to farming instead of pushing blue, so it was wasted.
>>540881074what these stats mean btw is that in massive stomps or back and forth games where one team chokes and the other does a final push and wipes them out aka games where mo is going to win no matter what items he buys, he can buy a t4 before rushing the patronthis is why the top 10 highest winrate items consists of shit almost nobody actually buys according to overall pickrate, they're luxury items people buy in games they could've won if they'd just bought nothing instead
>>540882005that building damage on seven after 53 minutes is diabolical
>>540882005Holy shit, I just noticed that Seven has 0 objective damage. What kind of escaped zoo animals did I get matched with?
>>540881970his ult only actually is good against low hp enemies
>>540882379Are you mentally deficient?
>>540882379This might be worst take i have ever seen on dlgCongratulations.I hope you are baiting
>>540881297>>540881550actually he's a mole.
Post inhouse matchid
>>540882379what the fuck bro
20 minutes in wake me up
>WHERE YOU GOING, PAL?
>>540882379this
thank you yoshi for another win lane, lose game certified hood classic
>>540882249Seven was BROOOOLING for sure
>>540882379fpbp check'em
>>540881297*cough* mirage*cough*
>any damage scarab does is returned as health to the enemies when it wears off>does literally, unironically, 0 damagewhat a useful ability.
we need deathmatch mode
>>540883545Now I get why we couldn't take down their blue walker for so long. Now one was actually trying to damage it. They were all just attacking the enemy team.
>>540876735im initiate and chime in anytime they start talking about balance just to keep things fresh
>>540869856When I say worse I mean literally, Drifter is a worse character than Shiv was when Shiv first came out and was the most broken. You aren't actually disagreeing that Shiv is still the king of "broken on release" Deadlock characters, are you?
I'm 200 hours into the game. I've never won with a viper on my team.
Gimmie a Shiv build, I want to get good at playing this guy but I never really have felt the powerspike momentum moment in the couple games I have tried him outside of fights where we're already winning the game in their base.
>>540881645Sauce?
>>540884107i've been running dash build but i play in pisslow so i can get away with it
>>540884107>power spike>throwing daggers at me level 1 for a quarter of my healthShut up dumbass he doesn't have a power spike he falls off a cliff when your team can finally lock him down late. Until then you just play like you're immortal and you will be.
>>540884226I'm very low ranked, if it was an option I'd be playing unranked because I've never cared about that shit in mobas. I never played ranked in Dota and once it was introduced I've pretty much exclusively played turbo.Can I get a screenshot of your build?
>Victor plays aggressive early, dies 4 times, quits>10m later Vindicta quits>then Geist>counts as a loss instead of non registered because the latter 2 were closer to the enda
>>540884107the shiv build is going to character select and just playing abrams instead. if you want to do spirit damage you can just do a spirit + melee items build and erase people with phantom strike -> charge + book -> heavy melee -> cold front + headshots point blank
>>540884107the anime face one.^_^ or something.or togetherspirit.or dew.
>tfw only got 200 hours in a year of playing
>>540884390why wouldn't you immediately quit as soon as it's safe to leave
>>540884336just buy extra regen and emblem aka items pretty much everyone wants to buy in lane anyway and knives do nothing in lane
Which mirage build should I pick that's public?
When is this game coming out
>>540884390not how that works
>>540884738when you come out gay boy
Biggest noobbait items? Ill start, extra regen
how long does it take to be "out of combat"?
>>540884828trophy collectorspirit shieldingweapon shielding
shiv looks retarded and not at all congruent to the 1930s theme
>>540884420But I don't want to play Abrams, he has no swagger.
Victor and Drifter can be removed from the game. It's okay.
>>540884828crushing fists
>>540884986>swaggerHe's a distinguished gentleman
>>540884918thought it was 50s
>>540884828boots
Metro is going to be so irrelevant when this game launches.>shit builds>shit mechanics>carried by aim>small fish in a small pond
>>540884530>>540884770You don’t get the leavers penalty yeah but you still get a registered loss. If the other two had left earlier it wouldn't have registered, I've had a few matches literally say that, the ones with DCs that end in 20m
>>540884918Too modern for Deadlock, too old timey for Neon Prime
>>540885148why are all his builds always at the topdoes he run a bot farm to get them there
paige thighs are too fat
>>540838682That hero fucking sucks and his kit doesn't feel good to use at all. My biggest gripe with him is how awful Scarabs feel despite them being really good on paper; -16% bullet res and HP steal from an ability is great, but trying to land them from far away against moving targets is ass. I'm surprised it's not a bigger splash AoE considering Valve gave every hero in this game some bloated hitbox ability. Plus I think Traveler is bugged because it doesn't shift your camera POV to your teleport spot; it just sticks on Mirage half the time.Early on he's a lane bully, especially once he get's Quicksilver Reload on Djinn's Mark + 1 other gun item. But if you lose lane or are playing from behind it's miserable experience.
>>540885379he gets lots of views on youtube, doesn't correlate properly with his twitch view count, but even still he's consistently towards the top of the category with his 300 average.
>>540885518you don't get it, they have to be that fat so i can feel good when ragefapping to her after losingsame with mina
how do i get lash's haircut without showing them a picture of lash
>>540885627it's just a fade with a quiff. so buzzed sides and long on top I think
>>540884034oh ok, no i agree with you
>>540885148>game comes out>people look for "established names" in the scene>hey, this guy's been streaming deadlock for 3 years already let's all watch him and farm twitch drops!if you actually hate someone you're better off just not even talking about them.
>>540884107Spirit shiv is meta right now. idk if there is a specific build out there but this is what I know for an absolute fact.Core items are>Spirit sap/silence waveAdds a ton of extra spirit damage and also severely reduces the enemies spirit by a ton so it's great for 1v1ing spirit burst characters>Spirit snatchThis is good for a million reasons. It deals some nice spirit damage on your melee, it steals their resist making you tankier while ALSO reducing their spirit resist letting you deal more damage and again steals their spirit damage boosting your own. This is also extremely good because of the rage build up, light melee already gives you a good chunk but the spirit damage from snatch adds even more>Warp stoneTo make up for shivs lack of mobility>Torment pulseThe damage is okay but more importantly it passively builds up rage whenever you're close to an enemy>T4sOrder should be something like spirit burn > Translucent Cooldown / Escalating exposure > Boundless. Good counter items for shiv are stuff like juggernaut and witchmail Do NOT buy boundless beyond late late game, improved spirit is good enough. Items not listed are obvious ones i.e. rapid recharge or mystic shot.
>>540885159whether it gets registered as a loss had nothing to do with the vindicta and geist. Only the time the Victor left determined whether that game counted. If a player leaves or is DC'd for enough before the 15 minute mark the game won't countProblem is niggers who leave won't abandon instead DC and waste everyone's time and since it takes 5 minutes for a DC to be counted as an abandon that may fuck you over
>>540885627Why not show them a picture of Lash? He has a 3D model, you'd be able to even show what you want from multiple angles.
>>540884918Thanks for reminding me to post this retarded AI thumbnail I saw today
>>540885840>people like shroud and summit1g won't be there for launch>all the new era zoomer streamers like caseoh and jynxziestablishing yourself early does help, but there's a reason people don't watch him and they watch vegas and zerggy.
>20 MINUTES>cant even leave base>4 retards that are 0-5+>wont end>cant leave>the developers knowingly implemented this to intentionally waste my time>just getting angrier and angrier the longer I'm trapped in the game
wow drifter sucks absolute cock nowbuffs when?
Seriously what's a good mirage build because this is the retarded shit i'm seeing at the top
if you buy greater expansion on Lash you need to SERIOUSLY reconsider your life choices pal
>>540886015that's not how it works.
>>540886267all i know bout mirage is you wanna build gunand make it shoot fast
>>540886302It is
>>540886276there are people that do that?
Gentleman's agreement to ban Mina for tonight./2 Spots left for inhouse:J05K0J05K0J05K0
>>540886570don't you trannies have a discord, why are you still spamming here even after grooming people?
>>540886620We have an IRC if you want to join
guy still butthurt he lost an inhouse hmmm
4364645943646459Match id of last gameNice throw team blve!
>>540886620your favorite guy is on the epstein list kek
Ready up for the inhouse
>>540886267Holy FUCK this build is retarded>Says to imbue QSR/Mercurial on scarabs because every time you shoot a scarab it gives 2 ammo>Ignores the fact that scarabs deal no actual damage so the extra damage literally does nothing>>>>>>>>buys boundlessIt's literally the most obvious thing in the world to imbue QSR on his mark because his mark has no cooldown and the only condition is to have a single mark (which can be applied to NPCs as well) and the extra damage gives you really good burst early game. Holy FUCK
>>540886267Sharkys
>>540886784I don't like Bill Clinton though
>>540886761>throwamber backdoored and then was just able to rush patron and we couldn't do anything about it
>>540886620we're not gonna use discord shut up about it already. You probably made it yourself anyways
I'm trying to make a retard/aimlet proof geist bomb/knives build. Would you change anything?My debate is whether to take Cultist Sac, and to a lesser extent Healing Booster/Tempo. They compete with slots with Echo Shard bomb and being able to hold onto Enchanter's Emblem longer.
>>540887068LMAO>it's not gonna get made!>even if it is w-we aren't gonna use it>and even if we use it y-you probably made it anywaysLMFAOOO, kys groomer tranny.
>>540886620https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixGv5oGjsPM Embrace god chud.
>>540887195>guy cries about inhouses every thread begging us to use discord>a few threads later right after another tantrum "uh hey guys I made us a discord">no one uses it>same tranny cries againIt's pretty transparent
>>540884918Billy existsThat's all
>>540887403>>no one uses itthere are double digit numbers of you trannies in there, get cancer pedo groomer.
Inhouse stream on t.tv /cl_ogar0
>>540886761God willed that Victory for the Djinn and the ISW (Islamic State of Wyoming)
Tips on how to play Wraith? I want to play her as a rat (I usually play Mirage) but I fed hard in my first game with her.
>>540887180leech seems like a genuine waste of money here. Same with healing tempo.
>check the ranks of inhouse>phantom in one team vs a bunch of alchemists>turn 360 degrees and walk away
>>540886267Use my build.It probably sucks but I like it.
>>540887180>cultist sacIt's op build it on everyone.
>>540887474>he uses discord while crying about it
>>540885863no decay?
>>540887605Is it? It gives you a little extra tankiness and sustain to ideally punish you less if you make a mistake and get caught out. Maybe it is excessive to double up on it though
is drifter whistling "hush little baby"
>>540884918That's because his model is literally the neon prime one a woodfinish on the cyberware.>doesn't fitIt fits way better than billy only thing off is his gun and prosthetic arm. They could lean more into early Elvis with him but it's not bad as is.
>>540884918>black people are allowed to have jobs other than shoeshines and valetsyeah I'm thinking this is not very 40s authentic
>>540887597firerate and god aim and then pray your teammates actually do something
>>540887597As rat wraith i like to go long range early, it is good for positioning cause you will stand at the edge of the tower range for easier escape. Its probably prudent to use the capacitor while its still nuts too. Im also partial to shadowweave, I use it to hide on the minimap and delay the rotation
>>540887872In my experience leech is a luxury item you get super late or when ahead. There's better stuff and it doesn't sustain you nearly enough for it's price.>>540888036Infernus is okay bartender is believeable, but Wraith and Calico being rich black women with power in the fifties is laughable. Also Asians wouldn't be much better off either.
>>540888297>infernus OWNS the bar actuallyyeah fuck off
>>540888036He’s not our world black he’s the same race as Abrams
>>540886972Scarab's HP steal scales with spirit, and that scaling is 3x on heroes.
>>540888297Thank you for the input>There's better stuffWhat exactly would you swap around? Would you still buy a Spirit Lifesteal?
>>540887874Yes.
>>540888036>comparing shitting on the thematical aesthetics of the game with anachronistic designs to simply disregarding racism
>>540888396hmmm? Since when? He talks about doing the ritual for his friend the owner...
now that the dust has settled, what killed deadlock?
>>540887872I think you overestimate how much healing leech gives you especially on a build where you're just hanging back lobbing bombs. For how expensive it is you're better off just sticking with spirit lifesteal. And tempo doesn't increase your healing that much and you'd do little with the firerate. There are way better tier 4s to get for this build.
>>540888297Wraith is obviously a Harlem gangster who very much did exist
>>540888497Im taking the cdr pill now, base mark feels unusable without it
>>540888497>and that scaling is 3x on heroes.the health YOU get is tripled against heros, not the damage.they lose the same HP as minions, you just gain triple.
>>540884918>i can accept telekinesis, genies being real and wanting wyoming, blue hulk, and all this other shit, but i draw the line at (old model that is going to be replaced)kys my man
>>540888396infernus does not own the bar, his friend hank does. still, the historical literacy on display here boggles the mind. nyc had black owned bars since the 1840s.
>>540888605you're right I looked it up I guess I misheard some voiceline or something
>>540888620But a women? I mean yeah sure still feels really out of place.
>>540888791lol
>>540885556I feel like Valve intended for him to use his scarabs after he uses his 2 on someone, which is confusing since he sucks at close range and at long range he is really terrible aswell with basically no abilities
>>540888687you're right. because magic exists they should therefore add iphones, laptops and heroes with sweatpants and marvel t-shirts.go finish your homework, dumb fuck.
Which Geist build are you talking about? My one and only match with her went bad so I never tried to learn her.
>>540888823Yeah she’s pretty much Stephanie St. Clair
>>540888882>heroes with sweatpantsSeven is way ahead of you
>>540888882you dumb cunt i'm saying it's fucking retarded of you to bitch about a literal placeholder's ability to fit in amongst what is already a bunch of shit thrown at the wall and act like that's a valid critique. again, kys
>>540888926I liked the russian one the most, idk if it's still popular though so you might not find it. Also be careful with her abilities, they are not spammable until you get some items.
should I replace Mystic Shot at like 50k+ souls on Spirit builds, when it's my only gun item?it usually does ~180 damage at that point.
>>540889034>DOOD IT'S A BETA STOP COMPLAINING UNTIL THE PRODUCT IS FINISHED AND RELEASEDeat sperm, retard.
>>540888882>>540889147hey, pedo retard.you know that Shiv is literally from neon prime 1-1 and is a placeholder that is no way indicative of his future model right?cry about Yamato next, it'll be funny.
>>540888618So something like this? What would you swap the Cult Sac/Enchanters Emblem out for? (I realize this is very situational but remember we're retard proofing it)
>>540888882haze has got some mfin tracksuit stripes down the side of her pants
>>540889147>i can't believe this content we know is a placeholder and is from some old shit doesn't match! wtfffffdoes your handler know you're online, retard-kun?
>>540889008Alright you got me, though I think she's dressed too masculine for the time period still. I just hope the whole roster isn't some DEI minmax and at least 'feels' fantasy 40s. Need more characters like infernus/abrams/Geist who look the part.
Why the fuck does Chain Gang disable Killing Blow? Why is this considered a movement ability? Two games in a row I've been cucked out of probably five Killing Blow kills because of this.
>>540889117Obviously yes but also by that point you should have more than one gunYou can run spellslinger or spiritual overflow
>>540889514release date diff
>>540889514>duhh why is my point and click dash execute blocked by the movement supressing abilityhow retarded are shiv playersholy fuck, I thought it was a meme with how retarded these "people" are
>>540886267I have 50 matches on Mirage and I still don't know what to build on himMost gun characters want firerate, but his 3 is rate limited, but the spirit scaling sucks so you don't want to build spirit for it either (it also doesn't proc burst, iirc)
>>540889514>why is my skill that moves me considered movementhrm
>>540889601>tfw won the inhouse with tankbuster miragelel
>>540889598>>540889640Chain Gang kills movement so you can't get far enough away to break the chains, I'm trying to jump on a motherfucker that is even closer to Billy and I can't.
Good job shuffling there bug shaker, really evenly balanced
most balanced inhouse match:
>>540889787>why is my skill that moves me considered movementHRM
>>540888497>Scarab's HP steal scales with spirit, and that scaling is 3x on heroes.QSR adds a flag damage bonus, surge of power is what adds spirit damage
>>540889405You’re definitely right that she’s dressed masculine, but if they made her a gaudy and extravagant female criminal she’d probably be chomping into Geist’s styleTime wise it’s a bit too late, but I’d love a flapper girl. Would’ve distinguished her enough from Geist while still keeping a slick and dirty criminal vibe
>>540889793dood I am tryeeng my absolute best heer okaye *pc crashes* *starts screaming in polish*
Whos the Dynamohammed of deadlock?
>>540884918this isn't going to matter once they start adding cosmetics
I've never gotten 70k souls before.
>>540890142I still haven't
give me stats on the last inhouse, I need to see just how bad we got stomped
Need 1 more for inhousing
I don't understand how can you play the game at this state, when it's boring and barebones as shit
>>540889979yeah, I love wraiths current look but I think the style would be better for an al capone type character.
>>540890218numbers below username are objective damage
>>540890142Holy Sinclair obj damage
>>540890279its fun af, the movement is fucking satisfying
>>540890328>42heh, that’s meI also missed every carbine shot teehee
I wish this game was a hero shooter.
>>540890534its a shooter with heros and mobashit
>>540890534>game has heroes>they shootHow isn't it a hero shooter :^)?
>>540888835Yeah I just don't like his gameplan and it doesn't come together like other gun characters in this game. If you're good with him, you could probably pick a different gun character and have way better results.
>>540890459rape
>>540890446movement might be the only think that is not crap in this game, it's just boring to learn, but the moba aspects are so lackluster, the game is really undercooked
meppz ready up
>>540890328>team with 4 sacs beat team with only onehmm interesting
>>540890656I don't think its boring to learn, feels really intuitive and you are rewarded for doing it in very obvious ways
>>540890534Deadlock is a villain shooter
>>540850659It's just an awkwardly implemented reference to his dota counterpart.
>>540890735nice discord troon
>>540890328>hiding nameslol>>540890459I was billy vs you in lane. Paradox is supposed to combo bomb with carbine.You can't just charge carbine and expect people to sit out in the open to get hit by it. To poke with carbine you use bomb to get them out of cover. Alternatively you can throw bomb then shoot carbine before it's charged up (so it would go 1 > 3 immediately > shoot)
>>540890656>moba aspectsCompared to league it's a more complete game, compared to dota it's not, but dota is 14 years old or so.
>>540838049I want to play multiplayer but the matchmaking is so shit that I'd rather keep playing bots at this point and just not ever touch PvP ever again until it maybe gets fixed
>>540891091dota is around 20 years old
>>540889601If you have no cd it takes 10-12seconds to get max stacksThe tornado puts you aggressively positioned and gives you an evasion buff. The scarabs give max hp which with armors and evasion is worth more. The ultimate puts you into a cluster fuck 9/10 timesHe is supposed to be bruisery, Escalating resilience feels great
why do people get so mad about mo ult but wraith which also turns your character off for about 4 seconds only at range doesn't get nearly as much grief
>>540891804One guy is a juggernaut tank that builds spirit and molests you to death. The other is a squishy dps with cards that will fly over you if you get too close.
>>540891804you can outrun wraith ultyou can counterspell wraith ultyou can still move after you get dunkedyou can remove the debuff with divine barrierbasically it has actual counterplay
>>540891804because I can actually move and melee while wraith ulted.some drooling monkey wearing a bib with dribble all over it pressed phantom strike, hit 4, and is now baking me with his ult and torment pulse for 0 talent.now don't get me wrong, wraith takes no skill given all of her damage is dealt via bodyshots and headshots aren't rewarded with merc mag/her 3 but at least I can TRY to do something against wraith.
>>540891209To expand upon this the mark is basically a gun steroid that is better the longer the fight goes. The big picture is you want to stat check people, once they realize they wont be able to kill you already got stacks on themEventually the stop challenging you completely which is when you camp sidelines and tp to the big fights
>>540889014they're baggy prisoner pants
>>540838049Why is there a mid game boss when it's so useless?
>>540888297>but Wraith and Calico being rich black women with power in the fifties is laughable.Today I shall remind them
>>540892496this bait sucks
>>540892610deepest cringebtw you need to resize the window before you screencap it if you want it to be reasonably readable
>>540889979Calico should look like this
>>540892929I'm serious, I genuinely don't see anybody go for it
>>540892496Why is there no start and end boss?
>>540893192You need to be above archon to unlock that feature
>>540893245The end boss is the patronThe start boss is laning against Infartass
>>540893245The start boss is the matchmaking queue (if you load into the map, it means you lost). The end boss is the 55k Victor
>>540893378>The end boss is the 55k Victorbut im a 23k 1/14/3 mina he stands no chance
>tfw the mid boss is mid lowkey
>>540893539This is the least funny delivery of this lousy joke, and as a phoneposter you don't even have the grounds to make it.
>>540893539Shiv
>>540893673yeah well I did it and you can't do anything about itdoes that piss you off
>>540893276I'm so new idk if that's even true or not
>mina teammate builds radiant regen, burst fire, FUCKING HEALING TEMPO AS THEIR ONLY t4 ITEM, and toxic bullets instead of actually useful fucking items like boundless/spirit burn.>lose, obviously.golly I wonder why her winrate is so low, guess she needs another wave of buffs!oracle star game btw.
>>540893753A bitter, listless reply. Now I feel bad for teasing you.
>>540894019people run shit builds or meme builds on lots of heroes though and they still maintain a positive winrate
>most recent 4 mcginnis I’ve seen were all running spiritAm I missing something this seems awful.
>>540894143>seething autist trying too hard to fit in by mindlessly droning a /pol/ meme from 2016epin
>>540894258they can't aim
>>540894258aiming is hard
>>540893192When I first started playing I didn't understand the urn and never saw people go for it either. Once you start to learn the game you will get to grips with mechanics like those, so don't worry about it
Maurice and Krillathan
>>540894716krilliam
>>540892496>>540894001>retarded newfag thinks the literal best objective in the entire game, an objective so fucking overpowered it can autowin you the game if taken early unless you MAJORLY fuck up>is badnewfaggots shouldn't be allowed to speak until they are 500+ hours and are above Archon
>>540894752kareem
>>540894690I don't understand a lot of this game even after going through the tutorial and I'm so dumb I have a harder time understanding game guides unless it's in the game itself.
J05K0need 2
>>540894773>ArchonIsn't most of the playerbase at pretty much this games version of bronze?
Mohammed and Kareem
>>540895000Honestly these days even Archon is high praise. Phantom 6 gets you on the EU leaderboard these days (that's like top 1000), so yeah
>>540895000no, the median rank is fucking Alchemist somehow.this games player base is fucking terrible.
>>540895000iron actually
>>540882379kek excellent bait, extremely effective
>>540895000checked
>>540882379this but with Shiv ult
Why can I get sent to the Baroness when I didn’t even book a room
>>540848581>no trigger disciplineTRASH WHORE
>>540894915NEED ONE!J05K0J05K0J05K0
dead game dead general
>>540895684we're deadloc'd
>>540880874you are like a vampire that is not affect by the sun
>>540895474hotel trivago
>>540848890Have you considered you are possibly playing in a way that makes all your shitters play worse ? You can't just farm all game only taking safe fights you gotta get them involved and fed too even if it means dying sometimes. Try to get urn, call for mid boss.Not saying you can carry every game but I've been doing alright (in ritualist) and I barely ever even hit jungle creeps. Lane shoving and ganking. I play drifter though so it's a bit easier to choke out the map.
>>540888786true, but someone like mina or geist would not be going to them
>>540890371recently i found out that sinclair MELTS objectives for some reason
>>540840961This >>540841060I get it, I loved Holliday crackshot build too. Its a shame that the devs keep focusing heroes on just 1-2 builds now
>>540840961haze.
Allah forgive me, for I must lane with a w*omen. Not even wearing a hijab...
>yfw these stats lead to me having a 70-80% winrate for the past weekDrifter is such a brool brained hero
I hope they nerf Cultist Sacrifice to the ground.
J05K0Join 7 men and like, 4 europeans so we can have a match please!
>>540895621>thinking mina cares if a few minorities die to her negligence
>>540894258if you set up the turret farm you can get some pretty crazy DPSthe problem is the said turret farm gets 1shot by almost any AoE lategamein short it's a meme build
>>540896204Hope they delete this shit from the game
>>540896148I'd demote like 75% of your S tier to various lower onesI mean like you have the whole roster there
>>540896148Mirage being S is really overselling him even if his 4 is godtier with a premade.
>>540896204Me too. It probably shouldnt exist. At least trophy collector requires you to do something other than click it on a creep.
>>540896204Why? It should be a good item for carries but it should be nerfed so other people aren't buying it.
>>540896204people are only buying cultist so much because nobody actually enjoys farming jungle camps
>>540896223hmmm....I don't think I will! hahaha!
>>540896324Thats what mr streamer said and i believe him
I give this shit 10min Im falling asleep in my chair
1 gamer join before I need to piss
Anybody know any noob builds for haze or seven?
>>540896204crazy that they're leaving it in the game for this long when tons of other shit that 60+% of players were using got nerfed much quicker.
>>540896446>dies to character>CHAT CHARACTER IS LOWKEY OP
I genuinely don't understand Drifter, every single game I just feed my face off and everyone on the enemy team can make me explode with zero effort, I've gone down two ranks already.
>>540896719we have to wait for the Chinese feedback before Icefrog, I mean, Yoshi does anything
>>540896143Lol just afk in lane is 1k souls per m
ok im taking a fat fucking shit if we get one more im sorry ill be a few
J05K0JOIN MOTHERFUCKERS
cmon 1 more
>>540896861Drifter is probably one of the most braindead heroes in the game>buy close quarters>teleport behind someone>instagib them
give me a bit i'm getting in the shower
>>540896991>fat fucking shiterm take a picture and post it in the thread and we'll see if we're really talking a fat log here
>>540896148I've never seen a viper team win a match.
pick yo heroes niggas
>>540896743Das rite
>>540897227
>>540897082It sure as fuck doesn't feel like it, Doorman felt more intuitive from the get go, meanwhile playing Drifter makes me want to pull my nails off.
>>540896861>only fight people who are alone>farm the map when not doing this>dont full send heavy melees after throwing dart like a fucking retardwow so hard
>>540896148>only one of my mains is S tierfuuuug D:
>>540897739>donuts aren't visible through viscous' bellymissed opportunity
>>540897543>floral toilet brush>scarlet tileshaha anon lives at his grandma's
>>540897082>close quartersjust buy early burst (headshot booster > backstabber > cold front > spirit strike) to cheese out solo kills in the map (enemy jungle/sinners/whatever)you don't wanna build gun damage on him, the stats are shit without items and he stacks it via his 3 if you just do your job
>>540897739who put viscous in the donut box?! *SLAP*
>try to back up my lane partner>he keeps fucking up and getting us killed>abandon him the second laning is over and leave him to his tard quests solo>the rest of us turn it aroundnever entrust your life to randoms
Laning as Victor can be so painful. Had a game where I was against a vindicta and mina in lane and I wanted to pull my fingers off.
>>540897739there's no way viscous is OP anyway, I'd give him a B at the mostI just don't think his whole mystic+express shot combo is that crazy
>>540881970>completely useless vs any ranged character unless he suicide bombs themok
>ERmm just go spellbreaker against yamato, chuddie???>w-what do you mean she deletes it by right clicking you with mystic shot? YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO REVEAL THAT
>>540898116>"no way Viscous is OP">insane damage and scaling from start to finish>alt fire mystic shot wins lanes by itself>anti-CC and i-frames and heal that can be cast on any allies>puddle punches trigger spirit snatch and serve as an insane movement tool>goo ball makes you practically immortal at 60% resistances and guarantees escapes up until lategame and CCsyeah ok
>get the meta ivy rushing capacitor on the enemy team>we get the dynamo that never presses 4stop
>>540898429>counterspellnothing personnel, yamato-san
>>540864559New player here, teach me your waysI often get shit on during the laning phase and stuff snowballs, I go Jumpstart first and try to stay alive but it's heal is kind of shit and other characters can trade damage effectively against my early gameShould I just fuck off and farm creeps during early game?
>>540896389You must be playing a different game then because my teammates would rather stay 30 seconds farming jungle camps than going into a lane where the creeps are all pushed up against a walker
>>540898037>that billyi'd be too ashamed to go back to that lane
I haven't fought one yet but Gun Doorman scares me from the footage I have seen.
>>540899007why? he got mina ulted and that's ultimately what led to his death
>>540898037say what you will about his balance but i think they did a great job with his design and animations. His jumpstart animation is great with the lightning effect
>>540899081it's aggressively shit, there is nothing to fear.
so what do I buy as billy in order for my gun to actually do damage
>>540899081most of them can't aim or instantly lose when you introduce movement because his bullets are slow as fuck.just don't get carted into a wall for the stun but this applies to any flavor of doorman.
>>540899158mina ult has nothing to do with him not backing up 1m further to avoid getting stunned from victor ult
>>540898015>take good fights but matchmaking put me with some unknown rank>constant 1v2 fights while they spectate and ask what you are doing>laning ends and you become thanos after being unshackled from your deisgnated pussy retard>win with top of every stat and no more deaths than what you had in laningits just that shrimple
>>540898409take the majestic leap pill
>>540838682He would make more sense if his scarabs worked differently, like have the first activation have them orbit you and they fly out as you, then they either home in one at a time at Djinn Marked enemies on release or all attach at once when you land a tornado.
>>540899385orange
>>540899385weighted shots and point blank
>>540896446How the fuck did you know a streamer made this listThat nigga had like 2 subscribers
>>540888036They're skilled in black magic
>>540899158his first death wasn't that bad but him getting the kill on victor only to immediately go in for the charge punch when victor was about to revive deserves shame
No wonder everyone plays Haze. You can be dogshit at every single aspect of the game and if you press 4 every once and a while you get kills.And if you can actually play the game she can easily take 1v2/3/4 fights
do you think Vyper's got so many STD's that the moment you put your dick in you just start taking poison damage immediately?
>>540898037Victor's reload animation always makes me think his arm has fallen asleep and he's shaking it awake.
>>540887848The top rated Shiv build is Decay, Rapid Recharge, Tankbuster, Torment PulseYou build survivability early and then buy like 2 whole spirit items and start chucking knives.
>>540901263She's a snake human monster thing so no STDs are compatible with her obviously
>>540901263spirit shielding, bro
what is the lore with the creep camps
>>540902058They're called denizens so i guess they just live there
>>540902058new yorkers just look like that
Paige is kinda fun ngl.I wish i was better at herWhars rhe build that isnt gun splitshot cuckery?
>>540902151except irl they'd only speak spanish
>>540902325full spirit vortex webor full support bitch with divine barrierpick your poison
>>540900420>>540900463but then I run out of ammo>melee but then I get auto parry script'd and die
>wraith tries killing me as billy>heh i have counterspell i'll just parry the orb thing and then i'll kill you>it connects from 10 meters away and instantly starts liftingwhat the fuc
>>540902925buy fleetfoot and HMCbe less predictabledon't play billy if you don't want to gamble on punchies
when are they going to update shivs animations so he actually slices during slice and dice instead of a weird headbash move>>540902058the entire premise of the game is that the supernatural event that introduced supernatural shit to earth 50 years ago is happening again (and thats why you can summon the patrons) so I would assume its just residual spooky entities coming from beyond the veil and instantly eating a cold front to the face
Three more days until Halloween event.
>>540903224>ivy nerf as a spooky halloween surpriseKINO
Vindicta remake when? She is trash
>>540903115his full rage afterimages should look something like thiswith slices going through the air
>>540903496I feel like this every time I land 2+ shiv ults back to back
>>540903387I wonder what they'll nerf. I'm gonna bet the kudzu because that's what lets her farm so efficiently. I think the gun would be short-sighted because it is only as powerful as it is right now because of Capacitor, but by itself is quite mediocre.
>>540903496would have to be a quick animation since that could potentially be too much visual clutter>>540903670probably kudzu + capacitor nerf altogether
>haha lash joke no.39449582.
>>540904091missed opportunity to pair with a wojack
>>540904091the lash does not concern itself with employment
Viscous is disgustingly overtuned
>>540904863your parry key?
>Mina calls Arin theyI thought she hated pocket?
>>540904863viscous is viciously overtuned
>>540905432vicious is viscously overtuned
game does not like when you have more than 2 of the punchy buffs
im just going to smurf until they fix matchmakingthis shit is DOGSHIT, and I don’t think I’m getting better at the game
>>540906197>wahh wahh i'm fucking rancid shit I can't improve>so i'm gonna beat up on lowbies!you're a faggot pedophile and have never sniffed anything above aclhemist.you're a cancer and a plague and you deserve the worst.
>>540905279>she hates pocket so much she respects his fake pronouns he uses to hide his identity to get people to hate himdiabolical
>>540905279Not all cunts are transphobic.
Gun Kelvin is the most fun ive had with this game in forever
>>540907510lol?
>>540885627>tfw I want to get his haircut but I can't because I have seborrheic dermatitis
>>540906197Matchmaking is working fine. You're just a mid player who sweated into a rank you don't deserve.
>>540907771I wanna get shiv's hair
>>540899343his animations look like a roblox mod nigger what are you talking about
deadlock has changed
>>540908853this guy is a bottom btw
>>540908037if you sweat and rank up then you deserved it.if you casually rank up you were smurfing whether on purpose or shitty placement.
>>540909043aint nothin wrong with that
>>540907771damn that's just admitting your an incelgoogled that look and that's every incel
>can't stop playing different heroes>over two/thirds the cast is fun af to play>know improvement would happen faster sticking to threewhat's the play
>>540909306yeah i'm an incel
nvm anons WERE right, drifter feels hard as fuck to play and not feed like a retard on
>>540909043only for my older sister
>unfunny redditor in game>it's always a mo&krill playerexplain this
>I will never play Abrams/Lash/Dynamo because fags love them
>>540909743hey now, it's not just mnk players acting like retards on chatlet's dog on lash and drifter some as well
>>540906606I am only helping accelerate the fix to matchmaking thougheverbeit
>>540909469based
>>540909316games are for fun and rank means less than dick right now
>>540898547BEHOLD, CAPACITOR!
>>540909834why did you leave out doorman
>>540909743this is known as the (quirk)chungus effect, any large character is always populated by r*dditfags
>>540910092>only two characters in the game can build this itemlollmaonice item bro
Does the patron even do anything when creeps are on highground? Seems like it just shuts down, doesn't beam or anything.
>>540910245This item doesn't stop you from buying it as any hero. Stop lying you faggot and lrn to play
>>540909743
>>540898547puddle punch is parriable
>>540910505>>540910505>>540910505
>>540910334>Capacitor doormanhow does it feel to never be above alchemist, lil bro
>>540909156If you're reaching "emotionally overinvested and crying on 4chan" levels of sweat, you don't deserve it.
>>540910593Don't project your low elo on to me. Learn that capacitor is a TOOL to assist you or your team. Doorman is a util support and would actually benefit this. I can tell you're low elo because you play selfishly and not for your TEAM to WIN in a TEAMBASED game.
>>540910120doorwoman(male)
>>540912581they both died 5 more times