fatboy edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/09-04-2025-update.80693/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>540838049
First for Pawgie's turgid logs
>>540910967I'd eat them like a steak dinner
>>540910967>>540911032these are the fags infesting our general now due to Paige btw
>>540911337imagine having 0 sense of humor about anything
>>540911436NTA, It's not funny it's just gross, if this is what passes for humor for you fags just keep it to yourself.
>>540911536imagine saying corpophilia jokes are eeewww icky gross but using "fag" in the same sentence, take a look in the mirror you are the cancer
And so the blood begins to flow down Manhattan
What was the idea?
I'm Archon 3, 800 hours in and i still fucking hate laning so much>Try to shoot the creeps to get priority and be able to harass my opponents>My opponents just ignore my creeps and shoot me in the face, but somehow end up also getting priority (???)>Get out of cover for one picosecond and lose 500 HP>Constantly under my towerIt just fucking sucks. Its always either this, or i'm doing the same to the enemy team, no inbetween. And losing your lane 3 minutes just makes you want to die, it means you're going to be behind the entire fucking game
>>540911716Siphon health procs healing tempoFrenzy is, a choice...tesla isn't HORRIBLE if he's playing into shit like Infernus/Viscous/Abrams, etc etc since it upgrades into capacitorsuppressor is...an option...
SEX WITH THE DOORMAN AFTER HE FORCES ME TO STAY AT HIS GAY LITTLE HOTEL FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME
>>540911716i think this is zergy's joke build
is the billy build something like this?
>>540911436>>540911662there is also no punchline. there is no joke. it is indistinguishable from actually fetish babytalk. you're just demeaning yourself for attention, and it is equally as sad as actual /d/egenerates.
>>540912387>"Come rest at the Baroness">It's three floating tiles and a doorWhere do I sleep?
The Mirage and the Drifter Deadlock (feat. old hag Geist, Abrams and Infernus).
>>540911774What is priority? is that when you 100% shoot an orb but the enemy somehow gets it because reasons?
>>540912460actually it is funny because the joke is that I don't ACTUALLY, LITERALLY want to eat a log of shit like a candy bar, retard. Of course, autistic people have a hard time with figurative language so it's not your fault it's your disabled brain's :)fuck off tranny animeposting autist
>>540911774the higher you get, the better people's aim will be, which is a heavy decider in lane matchups
>>540912601I noticed this game has produced a LOT of gay porn, like a pretty high ratio relative to other games
>>540911662What?
>>540912812TF2 mogs it
>>540912973I mean yeah, it's a full male castCoD mogs it too
>>540912602Priority is when your creeps outlive the opponent's, which means they can't fight into you as effectively because they'll tank creep damage. Basically if you kill the enemy wave really fast you get a lot of space to go get boxes, shoot them, go back to buy, hit the tower or whatever with impunity, or at least that's the idea
>>540912661>trannyoh cool, talking to a newfag. no wonder your sense of humor is so shit. don't you have some brainrot tiktok to watch? gotta put in your hours for your jew overlords.
>>540911662>>540911436obnoxious retard
>>540912973the game with an all male cast except one girl gets gay porn?no way
Anyone else constantly put off by this veneer of jank over the game? I don't mean the WIP models. Just feels off to me. I think it has something to do with what a clusterfuck the game is with visual effects in small scale fights, to say nothing of 6v6s.
>lobby average rank staying the same>all players in the lobby seem way better than they were>except me
>>540913061>gotta put in your hours for your jew overlords.imagine being a deadlock player and calling anything goyslop, talking about jew overlords with steam running on your desktop RIGHT NOW, fucking idiot
>>540913165TWO, the administrator counts.also fempyro is really popular so that makes 3.
>>540911436>>540911662>>540912661>>540913280underage and american. disgusting, gtfo and enjoy the twilight of your failed state
I dont understand why some characters get ults that are braindead easy to use and others you can miss bigly and it does nothing.
>>540912661yeah surely if you were at a bar with the lads and started talking about how you would eat a womans shit everyone would start yucking it up
>>540913337>WAAAAAAAH SOMEONE SAID POOPgo back to your bomb shelter europoor
>>540913351>aoe vs skillshotya
>>540912661Literally zero brain cells, these are the people going 1/14/6 in initiate.
>>540912534that shitty busted up hallway floating in the abyss without any furniture is all you get for free>tfw he doesn't give enough of a fuck about you to protect the baroness' reputation and will gladly let you sleep on the floor
>>540913351Give us examples
>>540913383glad you agree retard, like you've ever been to one anyway
>>540912460Reminder that darkshikari, the originator of that quote (often misattributed to descartes) lead developer of the open source x264 encoder library and now apple hardware developer. is now a troon
>>540913493Apparently it was a whole hotel map that you had to find your way out of previously, but the compbrained losers in the closed test thought it was "too difficult"
>>540913486>complaining for 30 straight minutes about someone saying poopthe only autist here is you, stop posting any time
>>540913498Haze is stand near enemy.Seven is stand near enemy.Vindicta is aim very carefully at enemy head from a long distance.Paradox is shoot thing that can miss.>>540913456Essentially but things like Mo are literally just click enemy. No skill but it's the same idea as a skill shot.
>>540913445I'm Australian you moron, we just cut you out of the global beef market btw. It should help finance my free healthcare for the next century.
pagie more like poopgie lol
>>540912812Not many canon het pairings between characters other than some relationships mentioned only in match start dialogue (Billy/Vyper, Infernus likely with Wraith), and not enough artists are interested in the female characters compared to male characters.
>>540913717nta but>doubling down on defending your literal feces eating joke for 30+ minutes>calling ANYONE else autistlmfao
>>540913630I heard it was essentially an entire Blue Prince style puzzle game that could take upwards of 3 days in real life time to complete. And if you didn't you died irl. Gabe would stab you. I mean the baroness would stab you.
>>540913717Don't care at all, just pointed out it wasn't funny and you flipped your shit.
>>540913796>australian larping like his country is relevantHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHOOOOOAHAHAHAOOOOAHAHAHHAAHHAHZOOOOOOAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAOHAHAOOAOHAAHHAHAHOAOOOHAHAHAOOAOAO
>>540913816>pajeet more like poopjeet lolftfy
>>540913972>mutt saying anything after the last decade of global embarrassment
>>540913929cared enough to reply, moron
can we nuke this thread and restart without shiteaters having meltdowns?
literal state mandated loss>7 kept lunching himself at the enemy>was making some stupid ass purple build>fed warden so much he was attacking everyone bellow the walkers>infernus basically had no counter>lash didn't hit a single ult>shiv did nothing>had to babysit lanes and wait for the opportunity to take the guardians and walkers because no one else was doing it, even in their own fucking lanes>when we finally were able to kill them all i said to go boss>team hesitated and it was enough time for the other team to come back and steal the rejuvenator>check end game screen and the difference between teams is night and dayeasily the worst match I ever had
>>540914103>you replied therefore I won!!!!oh, you're actually underage
>>540914194No, because I'll post the same first post in that one too
@540914227(You)
I'm starting to hate this game because my lane partners are the biggest retards imaginable.
>>540914194>Paigetrannies have a 30+ minute long meltdown because they NEED to defend their scat consumption fetish Paigefags really are the worst posters itt bar none.
>>540914205>8 OBJ DAMAGE
anyone else feel like this general literally has double the typical /vg/ autism rate
>parry abrams>he simply doesn't get stunned>roll away>still lands the melee even though he's visually 10m away from meSoooooo does this game have anticheat or is this a kit passive Abrams has that makes him immune to parry stun?Because this is multiple Abrams I've played against who quite simply don't care if you parry them.
>>540914205>literal Seeker player crying about "state mandated losses"nigga you ARE the loss.I could go into a seeker game as gun Mo and 1v11. you're the shitter here, bro. all of you.
>right lane getting gangraped by Billy/Haze>Head over there after we kill our guardian>Worried they're gonna be really strong>First fight both of them are just spamming heavy wildly>Parry both and kill both instantly
>win lane>winning game>getting rejuvs>getting patron>getting kills>team dies once because of a single mistake>we loseHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH I LOVE IT WHEN A SINGLE PLAYER FUCKS UP AND THE WHOLE TEAM SUFFERS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAAHAHAAAAAAHAHAMina aim your 2 AWAY FROM WALLS NOT INTO THEM YOU FILTHY FUCKING FREAKAZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOID
>lost all our guardians by 8 minutes>still manage to win
does hunters aura work with kelvins dome in a 1v1? thatd be kino
>>540914568look at the other teams level
>>540915132hunter aura + alch flask + point blank dome rape were the defining characteristics of the legendary gun kelvin build
>>540914205heres how the second game is going
>>540915132it goes through walls so if anyone's nearby outside of the dome it'll dilute.source: you can tell you're about to get ganked indoors when you suddenly get an armor down debuff for no reason.
>first game of the week>12 denies in under 4 minutes>my teammate keeps shooting at troopers that I'm clearly trying to melee finish>try to go for box runs and farm whatever I can after losing guardian at minute 6>rest of the team tries to force brooling with a 10k soul disadvantage and loses every single fight>game ends at 30 minutes with every single building raped and all of my team without even touching a single guardianGreat way to start the week
>>540914568i mean yeah he's shitlow but he's in a team that is shitlow tier compared to seeker
>>540915557If you havent taken a guardian at 20 minutes the game should immediately end.
>>540915542I just wish we had doorman ult but its a 1v1 or kelvin and its a forced 1v1 with the enemy thats closest to you with similar hp in your favor
>>540914568>implying gun mo is bad
>>540915380>paraplegic vs man in comawooooooooooooooooooow
>>540914205>single digit damage on objectives>with fucking Seven of all heroeshow is that even possible? dude can melt guardians in the blink of an eye, even with the most shittiest of builds
>>540915657My crackhead design fix for Vyper is to make her ult reversed where everybody except the person you hit gets petrified and then you 1v1 the shit out of them.
any good videos breaking down Shiv movement tech for a retard like me?
https://files.catbox.moe/7crrg7.mp4there's just something really fun about just chucking blindly barrels with the bounce pad
>>540915697pretending to be retarded is still being retarded anon>>540915846guardians are scawy
panda hero soon guys
>>540915657with how many slippery coons are in the game like pocket, mina, and lashan isolating 1v1 hero would actually be nice. It should have been drifter’s ult where he makes both of you unable to interact with the other players in a shadow realm of the map
>>540912661back to /v/ faggot
>>540915539here's the lash for today's match sir
>>540914457Not even remotely. In fact I'd say it's the opposite.
>>540916448blow me autist
>Kelvin is 5-11>"that's weird, normally Kelvins are really hard to kill, I wonder what his build is">Gun Kelvinthanks for the L retard
>>540916143both are shitlow ranks and the gap between those shitlows are fucking nothing.you're the retard for even thinking there is any difference between shitlows below the bare minimum of ritualist.
>carbine/ wall swap geist while shes trying to ult someone 3 times>geist calls me ass right as the patron dies so nobody can reply >mfw I didn't even know he was seething all game
I think I found my 1-trick bros
:) I'm glad this game is blatant when it wants you to lose
Infernus? CarriedHaze? Mo and Krill? CarriedVictor?Gray Talon? CarriedHolliday? CarriedCalico? CarriedSeven? CarriedAre you picking up what I'm putting down?Dynamo? Reddit
>>540917428download the replay, you can see team only chat to see if people are complaining about you.
>>540917398sure, whatever you say buddy
>>540917569It's geist
>>540917730yeah, it's flat out true.a seeker player is not doing a singular thing more impressive than an initiate. anything below ritualist is a fucking joke.
>>540917915t. ritualist I
>>540917915This is flat out wrong. My statlocker match history (alch downy) shows a strong correlation in my MVP rank compared to the match elo.If It's an alch game my mvp is 6, seeker 4, initiate 2, arcanist 8, ritualist 10the low ranks very strongly correlate to basic gamer skill and down in initiate you'll see what looks like a 6 year old playing their first game, you don't see that in alchemist even
>lose to someone real bad in an Alchemist 6 avg lobby>check their match history>oracle avg lobby from yesterday>archon avg lobby from yesterday>oracle avg lobby from yesterday>etc. etc.Cool
Is Paradox garbage? I had a few good games building around bomb but now people just walk out of it. So I tried gun Paradox and died more in two games than I've died on other characters in 10 games.
>>540918629paradox is busted right now
>>540910505Finally unlocked golden Infernus
>its another episode of "first carry that rushes Cultist wins the lane/game"that item either needs to be nerfed into the ground or just turn it into T4 already, I am fucking sick of how snowballing a thing that you buy in under 4 to 5 minutes is, no matter whether is on the enemy team or even mine
>>540914560doesn't unstoppable also make you immune to the stun of being parried? otherwise you just fucked up the timing/the game lagged
>>540912812>picreli remember my first game back i was laning with a doorman who used a lot of ping comms and i think hearing doorman say good job tripped my praise kink
>>540918629gun paradox means using your abilities the intended way, comboing them together and not being a 1 trick who thinks they win by just throwing bombs or sitting 500 yards away trying to snipe people with carbines.
>>540913860We need Dynamo's wife to be put in the game
>>540918629charge carabinedrop bomb on yourselfdrop wallswap someoneshoot with carabinethey take a bomb tick while swapping, a tick while slowed from the wall, and a tick while frozen by carabine
>>540918813always busted*
how hard is it to learn THE AMAZING SINCLAIRi like the stage magician vibe and i like playing zero pickrate characters is he gonna be cbt to learn
>>540919967all you have to do is aim his 1 redirects & pick the right ult to copy and you win
>>540919967Copy Haze ult and become a menace
>>540919967ez as fuck, just get the speed down for vexing bolt and don't waste time taking shit ults, though it barely matters as your cd is better
>>540919967pretty funfeast or famine character in all regards. if you can't hit the 1 consistently then you're a dead weight. if you fall behind your 1 does no damage. if you aren't making good plays with ult steal you're just a generic spirit nukerthose games where you hit every 1 and are lassoing people across the map or getting 6 man singularities makes all the dud games worth it
why hasn't there been a balance patch yet when mina and kelvin are just giga insta win laners
>>540918629She sucks fucking ass despite what /dlg/ claims. Unlike most of them, though, I've actually played a good number of games with her.She requires perfect play to be effective in any capacity. Meaning hit every single carbine, place every single bomb/wall well, hit every single ult. If you miss/screwup any of these you are useless.Her entire gimmick is dropping the wall, then a bomb on the wall, then ulting someone into it. So they're slowed/silenced in your bomb and can't get out. The thing is, that half the characters in the game can use abilities to get out or just walk the fuck out until you get it to level 3 with the silence.And at that point, you're blowing your entire ability rotation to MAYBE kill a single person when you should just be playing a real Hero that can murder people without having to perform this ridiculous setup every time.She's like this really dogshit pseudo-carry support hero with a single gimmick and frankly I'd rather just have a Paige/Dynamo spamming CC
>>540920810Kelvin just insta wins the game if you have someone competent controlling him
Stop complaining about Mina you stupid shittersWhy hasnt greytalon been nerfed yet
>>540919967How does his ult copying work stat wise?
>stomp shiv team>shiv whines about pedo characters at the endwhy are shiv players complete hylic? no, your spirit shiv build is not honest you dumb trog
>>540913493>that shitty busted up hallway floating in the abyss without any furniture is all you get for free*That* is paid in spirit damage. You pay nothing you get nothing, thank you very much
>>540920968better than the enemy'sit factors in their ults cd (including if it has an upgrade for cd) and then halves it. with sup cooldown, and a maxed ult, copying doorman's ult will only be about 20 seconds. You can use someone else's ult every fight, sometimes twice.
>>540920854yeah but having more games on the hero at seeker rank doesnt give you any sort of authority in regards to understanding her strength, in fact it negatively impacts your ability to evaluate it
>>540913630They should use the Baroness as a basis for Halloween events when the game releases
>>540920854pressing three buttons to instagib 80% of the cast is a pretty strong upside to having an execution barrier
>>540921140Jesus fucking christ
>3 loses in a rowthis time I was one of the shitters.Also bought knockdown against infernus and I forgot that the stun only last half a second, it basically did nothinggonna stop playing geist. after the laning phase throwing bombs I don't seem to be able to do much of anything with her kit.
>>540919967whatever you do please dont be the fucking guy who steals the dogshit ults. I had a sinclair that stole McGinnis ult every single fucking fight when they also had DYNAMO, LASH, INFERNUS. Even pocket or victor would have been better than missing every fucking shot with that DOG SHIT ult but the tard would not stop fucking taking it. That was an amazing state mandated loss
>>540921410>knockdown against infernusya, he just starts flamedashing and punishes anyone trying to follow up on it :)
Do people typically listen to retreat pings in randoms? Cause they haven't been in mine.
There shouldn't be a safe spot to attack the walker from. Same with the jungle creeps.
>>540921518i was using it to counter his flame dash but I forgot that it also slows.I also learned that lady geist is unbelievably fucking slow and I couldn't pursue anyone. had to babysit lanes all match longI try playing during the evening. I usually get better results there
>>540918629she's very strong but more difficult to pilot than others.
>>540920854that is a lot of words to say you suck ass at paradox
>>540921017>didn't even ask about a room in the first placethat doesn't seem fair but thanks
Is it normal to understand that you lost when the game loads and the enemy team has: Kelvin, M&K, Dynamo, Infernus, Seven, and Victor.While your team has a: Vindicta, Vyper, Calico, Mina, Billy, and Doorman
leaking some conversations from some known experimental branch leakersnew gnome hero incoming!!
>>540921574Turrets in general suck absolute ass in this game
>>540912601Who's that girl besides Geist?
>>540922314sounds fake but a head bouncing ability is pretty funnysounds completely worthless in a game where everyone moves around at mach 5
>>540918629paradox to me looks like the ever common problem character every competitive game, in the sense that>design hero's abilities to be used as a difficult yet rewarding combo>character becomes overcentralizing at the highest tiers of play where execution requirement is not a limiting factor>character's combo gets nerfed as a result>ability rotation is now more reasonable>only problem is that you're spending your whole kit to do something other characters can do without blowing all their cooldowns>character is still regarded as high skill high reward so you will get an infinite number of ego shitters who go negative on them in (You)r lobbies and any time someone says they're weak that person gets called awful>streamers do unranked to GM challenges on these characters and unsurprisingly end up at GM, the rank they play, furthering ego shitters' delusions that the character is actually really good when no shit a GM is going to stomp shitlow lobbiesthis is purely based on vibes though.
>>540922531>autolock onto the lash as he's blinking across the map>plink his hair for 2 dmg, land in their base with him>instagibbedadd it
>>540922314>hop you can chain off of npcs and enemiesicefrog smokes weed?
>tried holliday>can't hit headshots>laning against haze and calico, which are fast as fuck walking>didn't know the barrels take half a second to light up, so i can't hit those ether>try her ult out>Is super short, hit box is small and it takes forever to recharge.I'll stick to Abrams and pressing Q, thank you very much
>>540922589the solution to this is to make all characters have an unreasonable skill floor
>>540922531>lash grapples
>>540922314Ok now that has high possibility of based
>>540922314do you know if he is small? or is it a big gnome
>>540923170wouldn't you like to know...bigger
why do heavy melees reach 3x further than the limbs? its like shooting an invisible hadouken or something?
I've never played a game where I've been perma hardstuck bronze before, theres just a skill issue I can't overcome Not sure how to deal with it quite yet, I want to get over it but I havent quite
>alchemist average rating match>retards rush their weakened patron without clearing wave>lose because they keep trying to backdoorbro
>play Kelvin>team posturing for a fight>execute perfect flanking beam initiation>team only follows up AFTER my beam runs out>this happens literally 8 times in one matchFucking WHY?
In the description lingo of Deadlock, are troopers and towers considered "allies"?
Surely one of these games I play tonight will be good, right?
>>540923532retards can barely understand what they're doing on their own character, you can't expect them to read your mind.
>>540923532>notice your team is sleep walking>continue playing proactivelyyou have to be the reactive one in these games while vacuuming up all the resources you can
>>540923664yes
https://files.catbox.moe/3wqwse.mp4UT/Quake sounds are amazing
using siphon too much on the abrams in the practice range turns him invinciblei wonder if this is possible in a real match?
>>540923532Just play gun Kelvin and put the team on your back.
how is it possible that every fucking time I play I cannot push a lane because my team loses the never ending brool mid which gives the enemies access to our base so I have to return to defend. Then when my team is alive they go back to jerking off in the enemy jungle farming as much as they can so they can drop it to them when they die solo again. and then I get up to base guardians or something and then 5 heroes instantly come to rape me because they were able to kill someone on green and then boost over to yellow to intercept me, so I must retreat or die. and if I do retreat it's guaranteed that ALL the safe farm is taken by some mouthbreather on my team who is too scared to damage a building. so I have to play this constant barely pushing barely defending game while others do nothing, and LO AND BEHOLD when we get to the LOSS screen I'M THE ONLY ONE WITH MORE THAN 2000 OBJECTIVE DAMAGE, with HALF my team in the 100s. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING FOR 30 FUCKING MINUTES????? IS FARMING CREEPS AND DYING REALLY THAT FUN? CAN YOU GO PLAY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS OR SOMETHING YOU FUCKING NIGGERS!!!!!!!!
>>540922753jump, throw barrel and melee while looking downyou're barrel gaming
>>540913796>I'm AustralianWhy would you embarrass yourself like this?
I was wondering why we were losing lane when it seemed perfect for us. I can't carry a lane or a team
>>540923760I literally called it out in voice prior every time.>>540923928I guess I should just go back to playing Seven/Haze/Victor then?>>540924372Why do that when I could play an actually good gun character?
>>540924946But gun Kelvin is a good gun character
>>540925161What are you smoking? Kelvin builds beam, does he not?
>new to the game>cant even land melee hitsIts not even about getting hit by a parry, I just keep whiffing in general. Be real with me Im utterly fucked right?
>>540919967i think his bolt ai needs another pass after like 70 games on himit's just way too wonky but i guess that's in line with it's namethe amount of times ive been mid distance but the bolt flies back to me or me trying to shoot something far into the distance only for it to be completely off from my cursor, letting the flying nigger im trying to tag live scot freeit's suffering really
>>540925378Bolt has a lock on through walls from your crosshair. When shooting bolt, you look to where they might be and you'll hit em. Other times though the bolt would go to fuckworld and aim at the base guardians. It's so fucky.
>>540925282he can build pretty much anything and do decently. The best builds for him are either gun, grenade or beam though
>>540925541i can't think of a single scenario where i'd want something going full forward to pingpong back to me so I think it should just go entirely - shouldn't even be possible really I think the 'difficulty' in making him one of the hardest is who plays around the jank the bestmaybe he'd get nerfed if it was easier but I wouldn't really call it fun
I love losing because Haze doesn't know how to aim or fight.
>gray talon on my team always goes gun>kelvin on my team always goes gun>drifter on my team always goes spiritPLAY A CHARACTER THAT ACTUALLY BUILDS THE SHIT YOU BUYGOD DAMN
>>540925282You've never tried gun Kelvin? You got to try it out sometime it's literally so much fun. Same with melee Kelvin
>>540925161not in anything above shitlow
i'd like to thank the coomers for keeping mina's WR low so her "remove enemy objective from the game" button isn't taken from me
>>540926815thanks for aiming at the tower instead of me so I can phantom strike you into dust
>>540927414it doesn't drop her when she's ulting.besides, she can just press 2 without interrupting her ult.
why don't billys ever run cold front when they want to be in someones face 100% of the time and they all run spirit snatch
>>540927414items aren't affected by silence anyway.
>>540927412lmao
>>540927505because the "pros" havent told them to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5rusicEnc
id rather my team brawl so i can do objectives than have the enemy team ape at me as 6 the entire match while my retarded teammates dick around in the jungle doing literally nothing
>>540927412all that was missing from this was paradox swapping lash lol
>>540928168get veil walked
How smelly do you think Ivys feet are? Can a gargoyle sweat or smell?
Is there an echo in here
>state-mandated loss>but this time instead of shitty teammates, they throwed me into a game where my ping went to 250ms and never went down, despite my internet working fine without issues whatsoever and despite none of the other 4 games I've played previously having problemsthanks Valve
>>540923341stop dying. if you have to, make sure you take cooldowns with you (make your opponents use their spells on you). you don't die permanently in Deadlock, your life is another resource you can spend. farm faster, you'll win more fights with a stat advantage. if your lane is losing, leave it and go help a winning lane. if all three of your lanes are losing, good luck.
>suddenly start losing every fight at some point>look at my team's items for the first time the entire match>3 people building the exact opposite of anything useful for the match or their character
>>540928654>if your lane is losing, leave it and go help a winning lane.Fabulous idea!! I love splitting souless three ways as my side walker gets melted!!
>>540928667what is worse, having a team that is building their heroes like absolute shit, or having a team that you know they are rushing those dogshit useless metro fag builds?
I really wish the camera was a little bit more pulled back, I keep walking backwards into shit while trying to attack and retreat.
>>540928804you don't sit in the winning lane for longer than two waves. this guy's trying to climb out of bronze, he needs bronze advice, e.g. "group up".
>>540928847people building useless shit because then the game becomes more and more unplayable as the match goes on
>>540928918He should just learn to catch every wave. Biggest problem noobs do is they jungle too slow or at the wrong time
>>540928654>if your lane is losing, leave it and go help a winning lane.for the love of God do not do this, just do box runs on the side of your map and try to steal their boxes/sinners/neutral camps
the silence on ult is so funny
>>540929153this shit should not silence
>>540929153>the bats that just track up and backwards completely out of the aim coneVery cool Yoshi!
>>540923341good luck, out of every team based game I've played this one feels the most fucking hopeless playing from behinddoing fucking anything at all feels completely unsafe in this game because map traversal is so trivial that at any time I can just be trying to pick up my sinners or a jungle camp after having a dogshit time early (thank you lottery character select lottery lane comp for letting me lane against billy + some other combo horseshit for half my games today) and then some cunt backflips through a door and kills me, even worse when it's the character that is designed to bully players who are already falling behind (I have also played against a drifter in more than half of my games today)literally what the fuck am I supposed to do aside than abandon if my lane partner and I go 0-3 because we absolute fuck the dog in lane? everything afterwards just feels pointless
>>540929153Welcome back, Death Prophet
>>540929467It`s weird how this game feels hopeless from behind, but I`ve also had plenty of games where we`re ahead in kills by a ton but poor map strategy and getting backdoored has the lead slip right out of our hands
>>540929467early lane doesnt matter much. just take waves and do t2 camps with your lane partner
>>540929739with my lane partner? there's only max a single other person on my team that ever is willing to use the mic and communicate
>>540929938while not everyone has a mic, plenty of people are still listening. it doesn't hurt to take initiative even if you're a little overbearing, so long as you're not dickish or mean you will find success :)
have you ever heard someone talk on mic who you didn't immediately hate
>>540930249I think you have anger issues.
didn't think so
>>540930249the vast majority of people actually
How do you fix the map control issues, or prevent it. Sometimes it feels like I have to give up jungle to a ganker or risk starting a poor team fight because I choose to do something like farm a basement camp or tried to do a sinners. Even just after laning it feels like this happens in more difficult lobbies.
>>540931476It's partially just core gameplay design. sneaking a camp/objective in enemy territory is infinitely harder since anyone within a country mile will hear you without having to pace wards or anything compared to dota. On top of that escape is (generally) harder since there's no going through walls with blinks/force staff.
>>540931570just be lane janny or friendly camp farm if you aren't playing the dedicated farm steal characters with an escape like haze, mina, or wraith
>>540931570Since the release of cultist sacrifice it feels like it's gotten infinitely harder to defend jungle. I often see someone like a wraith jump in camps and snatch a t3 creep and run away. Do I have to just join fags this way and rush cultist to keep up?
>>540918629Got shitted on by a Paradox a couple games after posting this t_t
>Mild lead in lane snowballs like crazy because it's incredibly easy to strangle a behind team out of farm>Any character with a machine gun that gets a lead turns into playing as or against a W+M1 Pyro with 8x the damage and 20x the range
>>540929467people will tell you this game doesn't need a surrender btw
>>540932564a lot of that mentality comes from Dota 2 and I understand that, I've won a lot of Dota games that started out really fucking bad, but even when that was the case a lot of the time I'd have rather just called it early so I could begin another game instead of having to sweat it out for an hour. even then, I understand the sentiment of not wanting to be a weak sister and surrender.but with that being the case, somebody explain to me why the fuck surrender is implemented in professional Dota games? in a pro game, everyone on a team types gg in allchat the game just ends and the ancient explodes so they can stop wasting time and move on to game 2. why is this forbidden power gatekept from 90% of the people that play the goddamn game?
>>540932673People do things that get them attention. Unless you're new to 4chan, you should grasp that things that illicit emotional responses will propagate no matter what.
I'm gunna be real man, I just had the least fun game I've ever played, and it made me uninstallWhy are my teammates always randomly in different locations?
>>540933127this is a lesson to not queue at this time and expect a quality gameIll see you in a week when you reinstall and hopefully you just queue during prime hours to avoid this
>>540933202>mfw my sleep schedule is invertedWhat a horrible night to have a curse.
>>540933278maybe deadlock can help you unfuck your shit
Would Slowing Hex or Mystic Slow be better for gun Abrams? Just going to wall slam for easy headshots and Cold Front+Siphon Life (with SH or MS) to keep them in easy headshot range coupled with Point Blank. I think Slowing Hex is the better pick since Mystic Slow would probably also need Greater Expansion to keep them in Siphon Life range.
>>540933202Nah fuck that
>>540933304I'm not that anon, but honestly, it might as well apply to me too, but my meds say otherwise. I don't mind the late games because its higher in elo, so at least I don't get that many braindead people. If I try playing with friends, it usually revolves around me having to carry but I just play other heroes I don't normally play instead..rank doesn't matter unless you're in the initiate monolith.
>>540932828making surrender available to everyone means people play with a give-up mindset. the game isn't go perfectly at all times? surrender as soon as it's an option. people who don't get the start they wanted will throw so that the team surrenders to get away from them.it ruins the game.
>>540933715Imagine how fucked the data would be when people surrender so often.
>>540933715yeah okay ignoring your gay appeal to authority knowing what is best, what about my team stack? there's nobody to throw if we all decide to surrender so why not make it an option?
>>540934259Why not just kill yourself gross niggerfaggot
I don't "surrender" If I'm not having fun in a match, I simply abandon it and then swap accounts.
>>540934056in light of this post I think the solution instead is to disable stacking instead of adding an ff vote actually
i can't take marvel rivals anymore, my slop tank reached full capacity.how the fuck do you know whether to build spirit vs gun, are all guns between characters the same outside of fire rate and magazine capacity?
>>540934259She smells like a rock. You want to have sex with a geode.Go to home depot and buy a cinderblock and rub your dick against it.
>>540929153>1600 damage just for looking in his general direction for the last 1/3rd of the ultdelete this character NOW
>>540934390How smelly do you think Ivys feet are? Can a gargoyle sweat or smell?>>540934452But can she smell like a sweaty rock since she's living?
>>540934449
I keep forgetting this is a Valve game.How long until looboxes, hats and skins?
>>540934056sit in base
>>540934451>how the fuck do you know whether to build spirit vs gunin order of importance, your character, what you find fun, what the enemy team is resistant against>are all guns between characters the same outside of fire rate and magazine capacity?their effective ranges are different and obviously shotguns aren't the same as other guns
>>540934587kill yourself gross niggerfaggot
>>540934738what if they build to counter my build, am i just screwed? is it worth it to sell my shit to res-pec into a different build or do I just get something like armor pierce or more spirit debuffs and just keep rolling with it?
>be emissary>never get put in emissary games, always archon or higher>always get my ass kicked>never rank down past emissary ii somehowhow do I lose rank faster so the retarded matchmaking then puts me in matches I'm actually supposed to be in
>Drifter leaves>Win anywayIt's games like these that make me stick around man.
Why do people get so worked up? It's a game.
>>540921017it's ok I shat on the floor
>>540935356kill yourself gross niggerfaggot
>>540936482How smelly do you think Ivys feet are? Can a gargoyle sweat or smell?
I bought Silence Wave but it doesnt seem to do shit. I know it doesnt interrupt stuff but its either smaller than it looks or 3.25 seconds is not enough to make a difference.
>>540936570it's great IF you got other cc at the same time and your retarded mates follow up but it's only the other team doing that
>>540936570I like to use it after a Death Slam when I've got a bunch of people grouped up and panicking but most of the time I just save up for Curse because Silence Wave isn't gonna cut it against the fucking Warden/Dynamo/Seven that is being a huge problem with their ult.
>>540934961ideally you would see they're building into it and buy counter-counter stuff first, selling your whole set of items to swap from gun to spirit is never gonna be the right move and you can just try harder even if they're countering you if you're not paying attention to everything going on in the game
>somebody doesn't connect, everyone in the lobby is spamming HM>at the very last second the heroes unlock and I get jumpscared by the punch connecting
If you could press a button that made it so all your teammates are Eternus level competent, but in tern all your opponents are equally Eternus level competent, would you do it? You would never be able to complain about shitty teammates again BUT now you will know every defeat was your fault and you will be wildly outmatched with other players on a 1v1 basis.
>>540937376noim a shitter and would get washedthe real fix is to make the game a 1v1 game so that I'm never at the mercy of a team mate
>>540937376Im 0.001% top Eternus so lol
>>540937462Deadlock's cast is more deserving of a fighting game than League's is (not like that is saying much)
>>540936646How smelly do you think Ivys feet are? Can a gargoyle sweat or smell?
>>540937376im a total shitter and i know it so it depends on my teammates' mental. if they give me genuine advice that i can learn from, that is good since these teammates actually know what they're saying and i can improve over time. otherwise it'll just be matches i have minimal impact on, save for whoever lanes against me getting fed and stacked to the nines
>>540937376they keep putting phantom players in my shitlow lobbies so I already feel like this
what's the point of vypershe's like if wraith was dogshit
>>540938123sliding is fun :)
>>540927412Nice one.
>>540938123
is wraith good and fun? one of the few I haven't played yet
>>540938450Can you aim?
>playing a bot match at 4 am>two spectatorsなに?
>>540938450she is fun but her skillshot 1 is incredibly fickle
>>540938694nta but what does the "1" on the enemy mean, are the cards able to lock on?
>>540938771they're HL2 rockets, it'll track your cursor and if you're looking toward a hero it locks onto them.
>>540938909yeah I know but why does it show the ability button as if there is an active after they are fired?
>>540938123snaaaake :)
>>540938613>stream myself on twitch>1 viewer>the viewer is me
Yes Billy, chase the Mina up yellow while the rest of their team kills us walking in from mid. Please, don't worry about coming back until you're all the way where the yellow Guardian was. I'm sure that's a good point to give up the chase.
>>540939826read this in the patron's voice>YEEEESSSSS BILLY CHASE THE MINA UP YEEEELLLOOOOOWWWWWWW
sorry but if you play mina and you lose you are just retarded
>>540928168>Oi, you got a loicense for that urn?
at this point they are just refusing to fix the matchmaking. not only has it been shit for a year, its actually gotten worse with the influx of players. for the life of me I cannot figure out why they aren't even pretending to look at it.
>>540940440Ask on the feedback forums, brother. They don't read anything here.
>>540940440>expecting communication from valveit's been weeks since the last update already and we don't even know what's happening next.
>>540940792nta but some of my feedback threads got likes from staff on the forum, that's better than nothing right?
>>540939821channel your autism and make a name for yourself on this board to get people to watch you
>>540941080yeah I'm sure they're really gonna do something dude
nigga they have bigger problems, like the game being shit, to fix before they think about matchmaking
>white people saying "nigga" on the internet
>play billy>enemy parries as I'm shooting them>enemy gets clubbed to death cool character, kinda feels like lash and shivs gay aids baby. they should probably explain somewhere that his light melee is not only faster then normal but it doesn't slow down your movement/reloading because it makes him feel very different from superficially similar characters like abrams
>>540941930and I'll uttter it again my NIGGA
and I'll cringe every time Timmy
My last game was just a bunch of slavs calling each other niggers in broken english everytime someone did a oopsy
>>540942601I'm not ranked high enough to hit the slav games yet.
This game is fucked.
>>540943293its fucked cus we cant smell ivys feet in game
How is this game so bad you only think about dota while playing it?
>>540922314I think a gnome is a little bit too far. It’s just too silly and fantastical
Is there a way to make the mini map bigger?
>>540943972move your face closer to the screen
>>540944087ruined by drifter
>>540912601>>540913860Not gay but I appreciate muscular design as someone who frequents the gym. This artist has good skill.
>>540944009God I fucking hate modern valve so much
>>540944087yknow referencing that post earlier I was curious and googled "doorman deadlock gay hentai" and there were only like 3 images, it wasn't like this massive gay avalanche
>>540938123Unironically she might be better than wraith rn, just harder to pilot(and wraith is kinda garbage this patch)
just had a holliday say the nigger word while i was having fun playin bbop
>>540945532>searches r34 on googleit's not my problem if you don't know where to look for it
i'm arcanist getting placed in all seeker lobbies what is happening
Druggies will play deadlock then feel compelled to tell you they're on something before the match starts
>>540912812It's because of all the russian/brazilian players. DoTA is the same, they're all incredibly in the closet so they pay commission for gay fanart under the table.
>>540947230what were they on
>>540947514both countries don't have money to blow on artists who ask 100dollars for a doodle
>>540947590Usually edibles or something in their bong
>>540947669>weed>druggiesok faggot
>>540947717I mean, yeahAlso you 100% smell like shit
>>540947601Suspiciously wealthy Dota slavs
>>540918378Phantom , shitmonkey . try again.
which three deadlock characters would make for the ideal podcast hosts? and what would they talk about?
>>540948062Wraith, Abrams, Lash
I would never tell my deadlock teammates that I'm high on fent during a match
>>540948062Krill, Abrams and Infernus
>>540948062Mo & Krill, podcasts are best with more than one>Mo just sits there silently while Krill yammers on. "Today I'd like to talk about Kelvin's latest book, as you know I'm a fan of his stories. And I think this one doesn't disappoint. You liked it too, right Mo? Lately I've been trying my hand at writing my own adventure novel you see and..."
>>540938123she's not black so she's more tolerable to play
>>540938123sliding around at mach 5 while your gun goes at 2k RPM
>>540948062Dynamo, Bebop, and Viscous. And the dynamic is basically a more polite version of the Ricky Gervais show
>>540948062paradox seven DynamoKrill Lash Ivy
>>540938123WE ARE LIZARD SQUAD, AS GAY AS TELETUBBIES WE HAVE NO BUDDIES AND OUR ONLY FRIENDS ARE THE MOMS WE HAVE WHO LET US STAY IN THE BASEMENT GETTING FATWHAT YOU THINK OF THAT? KILLING ALL YOUR CONNECTION WITH A DDOS PACKWE CANT HACK, WE'RE FAKER THAN THE PLASTIC ON A HOT CHICKS RACK
Any tips for playing Wraith?
>>540949164>viscous gets more and more aware of the surface>the deep is described as a horrible place
Yamatos design is fucking terrible.
>>540949164literally my roster
>>540949570you clearly were not ratting enough and took too many teamfights
>>540948062vyper, infernus, wraithit's nothing but an hour plus of them talking about crazy shit they've seen/done in between bullshitting. hypothetically, if it's illegal.
>>540949645https://gamebanana.com/mods/599927
>>540949695What does "ratting" mean?
>>540949742Pushing up lanes and then scurrying like a little rat when the enemy appears
>>540949645Yes. Everyone holds this opinion. No one is going to argue with you.
>>540949742pushing the objective when the team fights and then scurrying away
>>540949742when they BROOL, you need to be in a different lane pushing. the moment you see someone coming to kill you, skitter away to do it again later or in a different lane
>>540949726>in the baroness is there in minecraft
>>540949564What is this? Why did you type this out?
>>540950084hownew.ru
>>540949998jej, they're gonna get a call in they can't decline from the doorman bitching about them slandering the baroness' good name with falsehoods
>win one game really well>know it was due to team mates doing well in their lanes and our draft >drafts are random>next draft could favor the enemy>I could get a lane partner who is terrible>my other lanes can lose while I'm still waiting for spike>get ganked>get ganked in jungle>someone feeds a Drifter with 6 solo deaths early>they have a duo of insane spirit burst and nothing counters that early, not even resist armor or shields>no will to start game
>>540950528Variety is the spice of life. Good games are only good in relation to bad games
wtf is this shit
>game with no ruskies on both sides>actual bongs in the mic>everyone is saying gg at the end with zero animosityso rare...>>540950194lmao
>>540950664I cannot wait until valve deletes all modders.
>>540950528bad games are the time and place to work on box routes, schmovement, or fucking around with joke builds, my friend
>>540950872They will allow them but only in mod enabled games, like in Dota 2. If you want to use mods, you can only use them vs other modders. Simple as that. Deadlock needs that, especially with the FOV editing, midboss timers and so on giving an edge to some.
>>540950664>omg guise what if my favourite game ALSO had le epic sonic and minecraft skeleton and le ebin twitter sounds?!why do people do this? can't they just keep their autism to trains?
>>540920854>>540922589Very much this.Parashit has to blow her entire load to do 1 HeyAHoya's charge arrrow worth of damage. And chieftain pensioneer has charges on his arrow while also being almost instant...
>Paradox downplayers still in the threadCrazy
>>540951573I'll be honest, I'm completely fine with how paradox is at the moment except one thing, fire rate being almost entirely useless on her.
>>540951701>except one thing, fire rate being almost entirely useless on her.That's just every burst fire hero in the game
>>540951443At least mikeals quit so we may get some buffs
>>540951734Paradox is far worse than any other burst hero in this aspect.
>>540951959no way
>>540951936I would argue The Lash or Magician to be desu
>>540951959how horrible
>>540951820Cheating can get boring I suppose.>>540952024Nope, thing is, even if it were true neither of these heroes builds gun. Paradox's best and only real build is gun, and gun build's best stat is almost useless on her.
>>540952109>Nope, thing is, even if it were true neither of these heroes builds gun. Paradox's best and only real build is gun, and gun build's best stat is almost useless on her.Please be bait
EU lobby come stomp alchimists to get me out of this hell FRJNQ
>>540952137he posted a shitty tranime pick, why even feign suprise
>I'm busy sucking up to the Vicount todayMinabros.......
>>540952109>Paradox's best and only real build is gunhave you considered buying CC items and becoming utility invoker
whats a good victor build on the search bar bros
I'm having a minor schizo moment.I haven't played Deadlock in a hot minute, but right before I stopped playing it much, I remember they changed Haze's voice from raspy and whispery to discount Phantom Assassin.Now I reinstalled it, and Haze sounds like I remember herDid they revert the change or am I becoming senile?
>>540912457Melee Charge is bait, I tested it and it barely adds any extra damage to your Bashdown, it's like 10-15 damage at ~13k souls. Spirit Snatch and Lifestrike are great though. Also Lucky Shot is really good on him.
Shiv = Overpowered. I'm not the only one who thinks this. >500 damage burst not even 9 minutes into the game>balancedhttps://youtu.be/3QTU-O7AI6w?t=671
>>540952781Shiv downplayers are a cult. He's pretty strong, he's allowed to have a pretty insane kit just because he has no CC.
>>540952781>anon learns about powerspikesDoorman can do it even earlier
>>540947601>doesn't understand how russians and brazilians can farm CSGO skins and meme cards to buy porn
I fucking love DynamoSometimes, shitlow can be pretty fun. It was funny pressing 1 and deleting 2/3 of Haze's hp
OCE Matchmaking in a nutshell kek
what's with Haze players following this one build where there's no green items until they get a 3200 orange? Can we report builds?
>>540949843>>540949859>>540949987Thanks, I get it now.
>>540953608it's called balling out of control
>>540911436>the punchline is pornKill yourself
>>540953608There's not many good green items for Haze. Bullet Lifesteal into Fury Trance is about the only good one. Battle Vest doesn't provide enough damage and the resistance hardly matters for a hero so squishy. None of the T3s are good on her except maybe Warp Stone. T4 is where Siphon Bullets and Vampiric Burst are, and they're really the most usable Haze greens.
>>540911337Paige was a mistake>>540912973TF2 was also a mistake
>>540953665What about building her? Is this decent?
>>540952781pov - you just insulted pretty boy and his key chain started glowing red
>>540952781Victor is also just brutal to play in lane. You have so little health that you just explode from burst or poke that you forget you're playing a tank
>>540953608Still better than support Haze
>>540913630The hotel map should be a deathmatch mode and there are shitloads of doorman doors that go everywhereThere's also a big spiral staircase in a ballroom where the top end and bottom end are doorman doors so you can slide eternally
>>540929415They are homing. It's in the description. Retard.
>>540953936quicksilver reload is much better than active reload IMO, i'd buy it in lane asapalso, since you're not going to fight too early you should be getting tesla bullets right after cultist sac. it'll let you farm a lot faster and do ok damage if you have to brool
>>540954019victor has a massive health bar, it's the only upside to his laning outside how quickly he can kill creeps, what are you smoking
>>540954216I don't want QR because that's tied to an ability. But thanks for the Tesla bullets tip.
>>540913630The hotel map should have been Portal 3 trial chambers. I wish the old baroness was released or we at least got different room options instead of just a single easy one
>>540954330>victor has a massive health barNo he doesn't bro. What he has is good regen and an on command burst heal. His actual max health is quite low compared to other tanks.
>>540914957>Lose guardian early>Enemy starts roaming while you park your ass in lane and soak up souls>15 minutes in you are 5k souls up on them
>>540953786Extra health is good on haze, since her base hp is so low. Its like +30%, 650 to 900
>>540954330>>540954434Example. Victor starts with less max health than Vyper, Pocket or Grey Talon. He has pretty much the same Max health as Ivy.
>>540952781>he doesn't know that Grey Talon is the same AND can do it while being 2 kilometers away
>>540954338your card is tied to shooting anyways, it works very well
>>540954859Grey Talon is also busted. Doesn't make Shiv any less busted.>b-b-but also X is OP so it's o-ok......
Mina's scaling is so bullshit
>>540954859whatabou'Tism
>>540953786Extra Health and either a reactive shield or a spirit shield would have her survive most of the retarded situation I've seen them in.
>>540919356>praise kinkare there really people so porn-sick and devoid of positive relationships in their lives that completely non-sexual compliments are rare enough to make them horny?
I have more fun losing on Victor than I do winning on Kelvin...Is something wrong with me?
>tank build Doorman just spent the whole game whining about how bad our carries areThe irony.
>>540956634no that's normal. rational, even>t. seven
>>540953786Every haze should go ricochet+inhibitor
>>540957407>every Haze should feed me winsNo.
YOSHI WHERE IS MY GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING PATCH!?
>>540954216forgot to say, boundless spirit is a trap since most of your damage will be through your gun, the main draw is that it gives you a % of your current spirit power and you are not building that much spirit to begin withI don't think you should be buying hybrid, it's more important to be able to M1 people and not dieso get stuff like vampiric burst, siphon bullets, counterspellgo veil walker instead of fortitude for ratmaxxing
i think you should get 2 seconds of infinite ammo if you do a walljump at high speed
>>540953936>no merc magnum
>>540953936You want Quicksilver Reload instead of Active Reload, buy it in lane as 2nd or 3rd itemDon't bother with Ricochet nor Glass Cannon, simply terrible damage. You'd do better with Tesla Bullets and build into Capacitor, also get Mercurial Magnum. These are by far your most insane power spikes. Boundless Spirit is also great because it makes your cards deal about double their damage and buffs every single other aspect of your kit, including giving you +2.4m/s sprint speed just by itself.
>>540949570You want to ambush people with your ultimate. Think of yourself as a Mo that can't be nearly as blunt with your approach. You have to catch people off-guard, especially if they start buying Counterspell.
>>540957552>he doesnt knowThat combo is a free win in every teamfight
>>540957687It's gonna hit on Halloween. Tons of cool shit and tons of nerfs, mainly Mina, Shiv, Drifter, Talon and all the other cheap niggers of the game. Mark my words.
>>540920854>Comparing a hero with 2 disables, 4 damage skills and an extremely strong positioning tool to chief shitting bull who can't do shit except drop arrows
>>540958056I think walljump should be made into a skillcheck and if you mistime it you sprain your ankle and get a 70% movespeed debuff.
>>540920854>She requires perfect play to be effective in any capacity.I don't necessarily agree with this but she can be very unforgiving. There are many cases where the difference of getting a kill/winning a fight come down to whether or not I hit or miss my carbine/swap. And missing them feels very, very fucking bad.
>>540959192Chief prepping bull does her entire combo damage in a single arrow.
>>5409591581- I don't believe you.2 - No proof.3 - Breaks the pattern.4 - Go fuck yourself, faggot.
>>540959158>shivLOL
How do you make CS2 Server Picker work with Deadlock? Every match is still Russian only, even with only EU west and US servers unlocked.
>sweaty soulless cunts trying to get more kills after the win/loss announcement
>>540952781Based
>>540958131I don't like putting it on cards because every time you cast, its cooldown resets.>>540958296>Glass Cannon, simply terrible damageWhat?
>>540924324BasedWheres rhe mod
>>540960618>win/loss announcementWhat do you mean?
The black woman of Valve unοriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>540960624Me as the redheaded big ass slut
>>540960682There's a deadlock mod manager you can get here: https://deadlockmods.app/
>>540960624Goes hand in hand that this retarded general defends Mina as being balanced that they would blindly defend Shiv too.
>>540960642That's the entire fucking point you basically have infinite ammo and spirit bullets
>>540960624Spirit Sap moment
>>540924324I hate how they're not in the same order as in Dota 2. I modded them for myself last year but I don't remember how to do it again and the .pak file is corrupted or something by now
>>540961064You don't get it. Even if it's not ready yet, hasting a spell with Mercurial Magnum on it will reset cooldown. So you would have to cast the card only every 14 seconds. I'd rather put it on Full Auto.
>>540961197My friend, QSR still gives you ammo if it's on cooldown it's just proportional to how much of the CD is left
>>540960772You know after the patron is dead and everything goes slow motion? Yeah when try hard retards just keep shooting and using skills on you in that.
>>540961262Oh, that's what it means by "charges up overtime with". What an obtuse way of phrasing it.
>>540961281Everything after the victory/defeat screen is ignored in the end game stats
I'm off my meds since I ran out, next inhouse when?
>>540925302That or Lag (Not ping, OOS).
What's the latest game you won from behind and by how much?
>>540960624That what happens when you go gun mirage instead of tank mirage, you become a clip in a pisslow montage
>>540962013It's what happens when you tank a mystic shot and 2 slice and dices while spirit sapped
>>540961683Exactly. How sweaty do you have to be to still be trying to tryhard that?
>>540962264Just walking at people and pressing buttons isn't really try harding
>>540961983The last time I played Victor.Victor ALWAYS wins from behind IF he wins.
>>540961281I think you think about this a lot more than they do. People play this game because they like clicking head and spamming their shit and they're going click heads and spam shit until the game stops them. You might feel that this violates some vague ideal of an honour code but in reality there is no code and they're just having fun.I have seen this before in Tekken when some people lose their shit at people continuing combos after the round ends but the vast majority of people do it and don't think twice. You're just tilting yourself for no reason.
>have to buy a counter item like knockdown because someone on the enemy team is spiraling out of control>have to cuck my own build and delay my powerspike to do itI hate this. Even when I buy the item my team is so weak the enemy doesn't even die
>>540963203Are you a support?It's literally the supports job to buy counter items because they don't really need many items to hit power spikes.
>>540949570I suck at Wraith and I'm not sure why
>>540963203Worst is when you have support or anti-carry heroes and they NEVER buy a counter and instead try to play as if they were the carry. Draft can't come soon enough... and with it there should be defined roles
>>540963203I just run half builds because of this, there is no point going all the way if every game im building counters
>>540961281I do this in hopes of pissing you off even more after a win
>>540963203Me when Victor is popping off and I'm the only one to buy antiheal. Don't worry though the Haze has some in her late gun items she'll buy in 15 minutes because she can't deviate from her build order.
>>540963543>there is no point going all the way if every game im building countersDota2 gaming
>>540963431>>540963463Holy entitlement
>>540963701Bruv... 90% of public support builds literally have common counters like anvil and anti-heal built in...
>>540963656Worst part is you need at least some 60% anti-heal to actually stop Victor. Any less than that and he just outheals it all. And good luck stacking 60% anti-heal in one build, very few heroes actually can do it reasonably.
>>540963845You're not buying knockdown unless you're a support. Most of the anti-heal options also deal damage so it's not "cucking" your build at all
>>540959469Gay talon has arrows and then no good skills, paradog has one amazing skill, two great skills and one good skill
>>540963887Don't forget it can't be shit like decay because his 2 just purges it.It HAS to be shit that applies on every damage instance.
>>540963887>Buy crippling headshot>Shoot victor in the head>He dies in 2 seconds (4 if ultimate)Crazy
It’s odd to me that the game lacks a lot of traditional tanks & supports. Like sure you can buy a load of actives to try and fit that but it’s mostly just Paige, Kelvin, and MK (who build a ton of spirit and somehow still stay tanky af)
shout out to that one Ivy game where I had to buy 5 counters to exist and win. one of very few non-support heroes that can get away with using this many slots into counters
>>540953608resto is a green itemI rest my case
>>540964142He has a fucking huge head hit box too.Nearly as big as Seven.
>>540964142Crippling Headshot is just 30% anti-heal nigger, it's not enough. Healing Booster, a 1600 item that builds off a 800 item, denies most of that 30%.
>>540964190Ivy IS support, anon.
>>540963887>Worst part is you need at least some 60% anti-heal to actually stop Victorwow too bad there isn't an extremely effective late game item for spirit characters, an anti-heal on carries that deals bleed damage, and many ways to reduce victors spirit resist so that he takes a fuck ton of damage from his aura or anything....
>>540964318the intention is that yes, but right now she's being played as a gun carry>>540964368spirit burn is a 20s build-up and cooldown and requires 500 spirit damage to be dealt, so not everyone can even build it. victor has 3 debuff removers in his kit also
>>540964318no better way to support the team by fucking killing everyone
>>540961281Holy butthurt batman, what the fuck are you supposed to do in the last ten seconds after the game is over other than deathmatching? Bowing honorably to each other and writing a haiku based on the match like a big weaboo?
>>540964151There is a lot more tanks then people realize, if you have any sort of knockup or stun, you can play as a tank, except for haze
>>540963431>in a game with no dedicated support like PaigeWhat now?
>>540964368yeah if only he didn't have purges
>people unironically forcing the meme that heroes are meant to be pigeonholed into narrow roles
How to fix Trophy Collector, 2 steps.>1. For every stack the resale value of the item goes up 200 souls. At max stacks it sells for 1600 (half of own value) and 3200 for stacks, totaling 4800. >2. At max stacks the effects of the stacks stay, even if the item is sold.
It sure would be nice if the Paige's I get stopped building 100% gun or spirit. Gun Paige is the worst because even spirit Paige will use the 2 on other people instead of only herself.
>>540964439>spirit burn is a 20s build-upliterally what the fuck are you even talking about>requires 500 spirit damage to be dealtDamn if only spirit burn was a late game item where spirit heavy characters can easily do that especially with tankbuster which completely pierces spirit resis>so not everyone can even build itNo shit? I specified spirit characters retard. You also have healbane which is very cheap and is applied to any spirit damage you deal with no cooldown or any other restrictions.You need to play the game and actually use items instead of theorycrafting scenarios where something is too bad or something is too good because xyz. Victor can be annoying late game but there are a lot of counters and ones that don't hinder your playstyle. Spirit burn is a staple on pretty much every spirit burst heavy character, healbane is a good option that can work on nearly every character in the game and is cheap, toxic bullets deals good damage and is even a staple on some m1 heroes, and like I said resist shred is fantastic against him. Spirit sap/silence wave is also a fantastic option vs victor before he maxes out jumpstart (which you can manually check by hovering of his abilities in a match)
>>540964151This game is like dota except everyone scales decently, and typical supports in dota are like>2 disables and a 1000 damage nuke>2 disables and a 500 dps summon>Free bkb that has an 70% uptime, passive slowing aura and a heal that has some of the highest AoE nuke damage in the game among nonultimates>Fissure and an atomic bomb as an ultimateRather than the girlfriend afk healbot support
>>540964871Didn't read. There are two extremely simple solutions. You either make trophy collector a 1600 item, 0 changes to it's current stats or stacksOr you make it retroactively give you stacks based on kills/assists you've obtainedThere, it's now a decent pick up for supports.
>>540965301I like how you completely ignore that he can just cleanse it 3 times, likely 4 because he might buy Debuff Remover, making your 6.4k worthlessAgain, the argument is that not everyone can build enough anti-heal to stop a fed Victor, and the entire point was that teammates will never build counters to help you.
>>540965301healbane griefs a slot thoughyou proc spirit burn and he purges it
>>540964594>no Paige>no Kelvin>no Dynamo>no M+K>no IvyGet fucked, I guess.
>>540965505Didn't read.Sac needs to be made a 4800 item and not part of Monster Rounds.
>>540964871How to fix trophy collector: give it a unique effect rather than gpm+gay stats. Just anything, mobility, dagon, mega heal on kills, increased headshot damage, whatever. In the current form all it does is give you more money basically, which is what other items also do because they make you stronger and able to get souls more easily, which is super difficult to balance. At least midas is an investment rather than a snowball item that slows your snowball.
>>540965505Cultist should just be deleted
Victor is cancerous to the game.He's a hard-carry with a supports kit.They need to completely rebalance him to make his abilities stronger base, and reduce his scaling OR redesign his kit to be more carry-oriented.
>>540964151>It’s odd to me that the game lacks a lot of traditional tanks & supportsAre you just retarded or what. The game has a ton of obvious tanks and supports
>>540966073>Supports kit>Nuke, self heal, aoe damage, self reviveNigger what?
>>540966073i think victor is fine but they cannot afford to buff him while the ultimate + rejuvenator + refresher interaction still exists
Trophy collector and cultist should only be bought on beebop and drifter for stacks on stacks
>>540966067You're only saying that because it's meta. There is no reason for it to not exist for carries who want to farm and very situationally on other characters (i.e. ones who are great at stealing enemy jungle farm then running away). Also it shouldn't have the monster rounds effect.>>540966073>with a supports kit.Holy pisslow. The only CC he has is some slow on his aura and pain battery but his kit is very obviously oriented around being tanky.
Cultists should be put on hold until the jungle update at which point it's changed to Dooms consume and gives you jungle creep abilities
>>540966183>>540966357Okay, fine "Tank's Kit".I lump tanks and supports in together in this game.Tanks should be self-scaling with boons, not item-dependent like hard-carries.
>>540966579so what
>all these league/ow players trying to pigeon hole heroes into specific rolesplay dota
>>540967315Valve is also doing this and they will continue with further incentives in the future from what we've seen of leaks
>>540966579Victor is not a tank, he has shit hp and no cc. Victor is not spirit, the scaling is too good, its the same as haze dagger, its good to make up for the fact she runs less spirit. He is a obviously a gun carry, his ultimate is clearly a left clicker carry ultimateThis is not up for debate, all the top build are gun heavy. You must break this delusion
the tank characters really are quite cancerous in rivals and OW, running around doing as much damage as a DPS with 300% more HPthat being said Deadlock has items so it can probably police it a lot better
Healbane desperately needs a higher tier upgrade line.
>>540967719Its also a capture the point gamemode which will favor those with more ehpDeadlock is tower clicker so it will favor rats just by virtue of the win condition
>>540967709>The man with two healing abilities and HP regen that scales off spirit isn't a tank
victor is my best character I think
>>540967995>t. 0/13 McGee who keeps solopushing, dying to the enemy team, then writes ''gg no help'' when the enemy wins a 5v6 teamfight and pushes the throne
>>540967719>running around doing as much damage as a DPS with 300% more HPAh, the Dota roots
>>540968163How do I play him better? I turn on the aura and do more damage to myself than the enemy
>>540968140Yes, a ccless tank is an impotent threat, you can make the case for bruiser tho
Deadlock is if a Halloween event was an entire game
how the FUCK do you play billy without relying on the other team being braindead
>>540968164Cope with it however you want but a casual glance at the historical winrates will prove my point, all the point capture games have had tank metas for almost the entire existence except breif periods of even worse balanceMobas are usually more balanced but you still have nature prophet stealing and splitpush tyrnadmere
>>540968172totally but I think tanks in shooters are even harder to balance because the movement is deeper than a MOBA. Even if a tank in a shooter "does no damage" he can still just like, walk up to you and apply at least some damage meanwhile you're shooting him in the face and it's not doing anything.I'm unconvinced that tank characters belong in shooters in general
>>540967709Tank isn't even a real role, it's an adjective>MoTanky pick hero>KelvinTanky support>VictorTanky carry
>>540969115True, its carried over from the mmo days but player agro=/= npc agro
>>540968431I am not good at the game and I am sure other anons here are better at him but I'll give my two cents. I have been having decent success with metro's build. Even if i lose I at least contribute in some wayEarly game you suck ass until you get all your abilities on level 2. With that you can apply slow with Pain battery (if hit) slow with aura and move fast enough with jumpstart to do some serious damage. I recommend not going all in on kills early on unless a good opportunity arises and you have a team mate.To avoid getting fucked by your aura all you need is spirit resist and life steal. Leach basically negates most of that because if grants both bullet and spirit life steal, so as long you are firing at an enemy in your aura or hitting multiple enemies with your aura you will circumvent most of that.With t3 your skills obliterate anything, pain battery recovers 20% of whatever health you are missing so the lower you health the more you recover, Jumpstart removes non ultimate debuffs entirely and enemies within your aura take more damagethe late games items there all increase your damage, move speed, survivability and tankness to the point you just turn into death incarnate. The enemy team will have to focus fire your ass and even them with ult you will just come back, if you are with your team they will either have to shoot your or them and if you are in their face they will have no choice.
>>540969565this is how that match ended. Mcginnis was the only tanky character there so we took her out and the rest of the team soon followed.
>>540922314>trolldier gnomethis better be real
imagine poppy ult in this game(imagine if it could hit allies too)
>>540969565>no sharpshooter
you ever queue up for a chill game of deadlock and get put up against the 1v11 haze buying shit like curse and silence wave and her sweaty kelvin buttbuddy?i feel bad for them, they probably would have won if i hadn't stolen two rejuvs from their braindead teammates
>>540970672>19 deaths on vindicta
>>540970672uh oh, you just initiateposted
>>540970842i deserve to be here until i get better, anon, i'm not ashamed
>do 100 damage>or get parried and die from full healthHeavy melee is such a scam
>your Doorman has Ricochet queued at 15 minswhat do you do
>>540971958Wait for him to parlay that into inhibitor the force a mid fight
>>540970771The 3rd lowest health character died a lot we need to get yoshi on the phone
>>540971098melee is pure mind games, it's actually pretty fun. need new melee items that reward landing heavy melee specifically thobeit
>>540972052we need to lower her health even further
Which build do you guys go for Abrams?
>>540972052-0.2 HP gain on sniper maiden
>>540972178If you are low rank, focus more on getting damage items so you can punch/shoot hard. High rank focus on movement/defence items with melee charge/spirit snatch to pick off people for your team and tank some spells
When will Vyper be not-shit?I'm not asking for her to be good, just not an active detriment to her team...
my skill rating is alchemist, but my matches don't show ranksthe game still figuring out my placing or what?
>>540972369She's a work in progress ;)
>>540972412you have to go into settings and enable it
Saudi money is already busy constructing underground bunkers in Russia, Serbia and Ukraine, crossbreeding Valorant and Dota players in vats to breed the ultimate competitive team when Valve tournaments drop.
>>540972742Ah, so that's why they all look like genetically defunct failures.
Do you think Sinclair has a fixable marriage
>>540972989The wife sounds like she fucks other men
>Don't play for a day>Play like shit the next time I hop on
Can you guess which team won?
>>540972178i use eido's build
>>540973423umm is it the one with the patron
>>540973423Right
>>540972742only chinks and gooks play valorwoke
>>540973646The only one in that comp that maybe wouldn't be cancer is holynigger but man was she just hitting every single headshot for 800+ damage... And yes, obviously right won.
>>540973423other team has infernus, so probably that one
>This is your Seven for the game. They will only roam neutral camps, steal them from your team and then proceed to feed kills and never join fights.
it’s crazy that you cannot even 1v1 some heroes as drifter with even soulsHis kit is just for ganking it seems except he does not give the dmg amp to other heroes
>smurf on lash just went 40/0/0Remove Lash.
I'm probably getting burned out with less than a week playing again after nearly a year not touching this game. It's just so imbalanced with some braindead characters that are not fun to play against.
>>540974129match id? I wanna see a good lash play
why do people think Vyper is so shitty anyway
>>540974245Why would I let you figure out who I am.No.
>>540974304because I wouldn't know who you are? there are 5 other people on your team ya know
>>540974413I'm still not risking it with you nosey shits.
>>540974129Report them. Smurf accounts get hit with permanent bans and if they can trace their mains those get temp bans from what I've heard.
>>540961281a post like this is a reminder that almost anything you can do in a game has the potential to offend some mentally ill retard
I'm dropping this game if the patch comes out and there are 0 gay talon nerfs again
>>540974674One of the game's top streamers is literally doing a public smurf event, anon.Valve doesn't give a shit.
>>540971098melee them while they're running away trying to defend something else or some retarded dash melee from the air
>>540974469nobody cares enough about you to go digging lel, fuckin egomaniac
Anyone up for inhouse or too early?
Why dont i see sniper Sinclair? He has the longest fall offSharpshooter+Hollow point+glass cannon and you are chunking
>>540910505Hello, are you bad at the game? Do you suck so bad but how the mere THOUGHT of ever losing? Allow me to introduce, Perma farming. With Perma farming, you get to win instantly at no cost what so ever. Wanna just turn off your brain, become unkillable and steam roll like a dumb ape? Well Perma farming let's you do just that.
>>540973704funny enough I think the only valorant player we have is averagejonas(bebop one trick btw)
>>540975527i've seen him play lash too
>>540974129Yeah and remove haze, geist and infernus because they're played by cheating niggersDon't fix the anticheat, just remove the heroes, right
>>540975617If the characters that allow cheaters to flourish are gone: cheaters won't be a problem.You're correct.
>>540975527lomeine played valorant, too
Some days my aim is shit, who's a hero I can play for when that happens?
>>540974129>letting lash, in any elo, get that many killshow fucking stupid is this games player base
>>540976028Just turn on your aimbot, hazefag.
>>540976028anyone with a high megazine or a scattershot like gun.
>>540976105I once had a guy on mic cursing me out for telling him to get to cover when lash is clearly fishing for ground stomps from his tower
>>540975293Maybe because this is a close range game and there are no real benefits from shooting someone 60 meters away
>watch some e6 player streaming on youtube cause I'm bored at work>he has amazing movement and does all these walljumps and parkour shit...>...which is used to just run to farm camps 90% of the timeyeah this game is gonna be real popular when it launches alright lol
>>540976540hello brool tard
>YOU DON'T LIKE SHOOTING STATIONARY ALIENS FOR 30 MINUTES? WELL YOU'RE A BROOLTARD
You should be able to heavy melee the giant bell on the sidelane to summon a hidden miniboss
>>540976647I actually don't mind farming or being lane janny. The game just devolves into "speedrun through jungle camps and boxes" whenever you can't get a pick or push a lane since there's a lack of objectives.My biggest issue is that there's a lack of healing options for mid-game so you can't stay out longer. Veil Walker is gonna get nerfed, not every hero gets lifesteal items, and Healing Rite isn't viable past 12 minutes.
>>540976831That's why I play Abrams, Mohammed, and Shiv.I can brool 24/7 and feel good about it.
>>540976540this game needs to make roamer playstyle more viable desperately
>>540976969Bro your forty?
>>540977129Bro, your Drifter?
>>540976969pro games are like 20-25 minutes, what more BROOOOOOOL do you want?
Healing stat should include damage mitigation from buffs you give others. Like heroic aura.
>>540977129this is basically the pick character, paradox, holliday, lash, bebop, etc.
>increase map size by 50% >add wards that only show what's in a small line of sight instead of an AOE like dota>underground metro for horizontal movement>only people who score the last hit get the initial souls>more support heroes>way to view what your team mate sees (click on them on the minimap to switch your camera to theirs)
They should add more lanes
>have most fun in lane phase and early-mid 4-6 man brawlsGamemode where everyone is hard capped to tier 2 items and there are 3x as many towers with extra wide lanes between each half of the map when?
>>540977239Fortitude is okay, passive should be active in like 12s instead of 14s imo.>>540977354"Pro" matches are a completely different beast than the average MM game. The biggest issue for them (and some very high level MM games) is that teams are just rushing midboss after getting 2+ kills and then they just end the match. Plus the brawling isn't as drawn out as some shitty midlane stand-off you see in pubs.
>>540977560changing the teleporters into an actual subway is an actual good idea
>>540977560The map was 75% bigger at one point and it was shit.Calico had wards and they were shit.The tunnels exist, just use them.We had that for a bit and it was shit.Yes, please.That one already exists: Press F1-F5.
>>540977560>>way to view what your team mate sees (click on them on the minimap to switch your camera to theirs)You can already do that with F1-F5.
i can't stop telling people who beat me to kill themselves and that i'll rape their families
I think I failed the Djinn. I can never keep up in farm past 12 minutes; I end up in bottom 3 networths in the game and become an active item caddy.
>>540977907Well, have you ever followed through and raped their families?
>>540977981Did you buy cultist sacrifice
I want a divine barrier alternative that lacks the cleanse but goes all nearby allies a barrier.>>540977560>>540977802>running away when enemy teleports or charges you into the train with you>basically self-kelvin ult'dSounds hilarious.
>>540977907maybe being a bipolar schizo means you shouldn't play multiplayer games. ever think about that?
>>540977731I want payload mode.
>>540977860>The map was 75% bigger at one pointLiterally when? neon prime?
>>540978160God the potential for zoning abilities like Kudzu and Paige dragon is hilarious.
Being selfish and playing safe seems like the way to go. Stealing farm and pushing waves, getting a soul lead so you're always stronger than the enemy should you encounter them. Keep your objectives safe.
>>540978064I probably should since it's very OP right now.But once that item gets nerfed, I'll be back at square 1.
>>540977309you have to go back to base all the time as drifter because you cant prioritize shit like veil walker or forty over your 5000 mini burst items you need to kill shit, sadly>>540977535mayhaps i need to take the holliday pill
>>540978442Just go to the secret shop...
>>540978442Nah there's no way you can't make room for Veil Walker on that hero, especially if you start snowballing.
>>540978121i think i'll keep playing
>>540974925Xera?
>>540979126Metro.
>>540979193What event is that? I don't watch that retard.
>>540979278Unranked to eternus which is pretty common for ranked games
lash vindicta lane against mcginnis minawhat do
>>540979335Just hand them coal when the game rolls the item system
>>540976540It's because they gotta WIN, and in order to do that you gotta FARM FARM FARM
>>540978375I used to run cold front to help his clear but capacitor is probably better now. The trick is just never ever miss waves 2bh tho, you dont need farming items
how do I build the most annoying and tanky mcginnis? I want to split push and get away with it
counterspell should cost an active slot
>>540980634t. Yamatofag
>>540980219just build magic carpet.
I don't get how some manage to both farm and participate in fights.
God I love playing kelvin. I dread the nerfs.
>>540981512His gun will get nerfed, but that's it.
>>540981594Ah that’s fine as long as his abilities stay solid.
two more days until ivy players ACK
How many undead characters are in the game?>Drifter>Mina>Victor>Kelvin>VindictaSo 5?Did I miss any others?
>>540981956*Ivy gun abusersAnyone who is above 40 IQ has been prepping spirit and hybrid builds for what is to come
>>540982070sinclair is a ghost two ghosts actuallydynamo's soul got alphonsed into a literal star
>>540982234ivy players have such a victim complex they think of nerfs as a religious apocalypse
Would mcginnis be more enjoyable if she had mines instead of turrets? Like, permanent mines (max 10 deployed before the oldest despawns), maybe max level makes them invis unless close?>>540981956I'm a true Ivy enjoyer I already play her at minimum half spirit kudzu spam.
If you buy all items that increase ability duration your turrets can reach up to a minute
>>540982496lel
what's better for raping the enemy gun or slashu
>>540982496>not permanentI don't care. She's not a true engineer. Poser.
does getting stunned while in your parry really reset your parry cooldown or is it some jank netcode ?
Drifter??????
>>540982558gunn, spam m2.
>>540982828Delete that fucking image right fucking now!
>>540982558Obviously the slash, it does 6 gorillion damage on a 6s cooldown lategameYamato gun has been nerfed to shit and her alt-fire does not scale nearly as well as Viscous'.
>>540982828well it did look cancerous to use with split shot in the inhouse
>>540982780probably from a previous match
>>540982558split shot > express shot if you're a TRVE rapist
>>540982828why did they give the trans negro such big boobs in this
>>540982326They have a pretty easy argument when its clear that the devs don't really know what to do with her. Her kit on paper gives her a lot of utility for a variety of builds, from teamfight disruptor/initiator, to ratting, to pseudo-support, etc. But with every patch they've continued to pigeonhole her, intentionally or not, into the M1-only abomination that we see today. Also the only character in the whole game with a nerfed melee btw.
>>540983531If you wanted to design a person as woke as possible, you'd eventually, step by step in the character creation process, create something so ugly and grotesque it wouldn't look human anymore.To lower people's expectations over time, ya gotta go slow and leave tiny hints of the things people actually enjoy seeing.
Idea: stronger meleetakes .5 seconds longer to wind upcan't be parriedcaptcha: KYSy2
>>540983531niggas have the highest estrogen levels so HRT gave him some big heavy naturals
>>540982780Those are commends from a previous game, yeah? Also I played like dogshit that game.
>>540983571I liked her original ult which gave her super regeneration and slams down on people like Abrams and her stone form giving her 30% of her max hp.Its totally gay that they nerfed everything that makes Tonkvy work.
>buy all melee damage items, including point blank and shadow weave>abrams does 655 damage>paige does 757 damage
>>540984150If I wanted to point out how retarded you were I would open the game up and show the headshot damage for abrams vs a wraith off a single bullet
>>540984150Paige has spirit scaling on her heavy melee damage
>>540984301I just think it is funny anon, no need to get ass blasted for no reason>>540984323yeah but the only spirt item i used for testing was spirit snatch on both of them.
>>540984097Her ult has also been broken for months where ~15% of the time the bomb projectile will just disappear after dropping it.Not to mention that the damage radius is essentially a flat plane, meaning it deals no damage or stun if there is any elevation difference from even a small lip on a curb.
>>540984645this thread gets old since its 95% initiateposting about the characters they play, youll forgive my assblasting
>>540984645I assume you are not activating Shadow Weave. If you are, please read what it does
>>540983170I forgot express shot existed, gonna add it to the sniper SinclairExpress>hollowpoint>sharpshooter>glass cannon
>>540984817I was, it also increases melee damage on ambush right?>>540984783sorry but I cannot forgive this, Ill send to Yoshi a message to nerff shiv again.
>>540985056It gives you extra spirit when you break invis
Is heroic aura the only item that gives you a passive buff aura?
Sometimes, I really hate this game.
Deadlock inhouse time?
>>540986305>no spirit counterpart>no green item that passively heals you and all nearby allies:(
>>540959908Seriously, all that it changes is my ping. Every match starts with several people introducing themselves in Russian.
>>540959908>>540986639>Russians hate each other so much, even the groups of refugees of them are too numerous meaning they get stuck together regardless))))
>>540986305we *need* the dota ASS as an item.
>>540986878We need Wraith Pact
>>540983797unlike the pug faced anime girl with perky knockers, a pencil neck, no nose, and eyes the size of her palms, which looks completely human
>>540987158TRVE
>>540981594But his gun isn't what makes him top tier in high level play. It's an effective style but the meta is to still run him as a healslut.
Who is getting buffed next patch though? Vindicta?
>>540988049Hopefully, maybe Viktor too.
>>540981594bring aidsbeam back
Inhouseどこですか?
>>540988330Inhouse1/12KZZQ7KZZQ7KZZQ7
>>540988330That's not what yamato's 3 looks like.
>>540988517>KZZQ7ありがとうございます。
Is it just me or does Rebuttal feel really pointless? Its an 800 soul item that upgrades into nothing to hard counter melee, but thing is if you parry in lane theres a 90% chance they're already dead without Rebuttal's help. We only have two melee heroes in the game, Abrams and Billy, but any Abrams with half a brain isn't going to spam heavy 24/7 and he'll be super extra careful if he hovers your inventory and sees this item, and Billy isn't even that much of a melee hero anyways and it's too hard to reliably predict his lights. The parry heal and increased damage is far more relevant in the later stages of the game but since it upgrades into nothing it's one of the first items you'll get rid of for slots.
Games today have been going something like this:>Winning lane decently>On the verge of taking enemy guardian>Enemy 6/0/x hero with 2k souls advantage comes to my lane>Lose my laneI have never seen so many people feed in the laning stage before. What is wrong today?
>>540988693It solely exists so noobs see it and learn "You can parry?" so they don't need to keep nerfing Abrams.
>>540988687このスレで日本語投稿やめなI fucking hate Yamato so much
>>540988758I woke up feeling kinda Schizo today so I didn't Q, it is Schizo season right now after all maybe that will explain the anomaly.
>>540988758One thing I learned playing this game is it's never worth killing yourself to take an objective ever. The game snowballs too much into these monsters the more people are fed into their maw.
>>540988858Tut mir leid.
>>540989008Man that one Migu really mindbroke the "pros" huh...
>>540986639I don't think I'll be using this program anymore. Match quality has severally decreased (even further) since I began using it.
Why is this allowed?
>>540990264>Ivyno draft yet unfortunately, so she can't be banned.
I'm just not having a good time. Now I'm down to Initiate 5.
Casual inhouse games to take refuge from shitty state of matchmaking right now3/12:KZZQ7KZZQ7KZZQ7
>>540990820join the inhouse to maintain mmr and learn from John raping your anus.
>viper goes 2-7>blames our 8-5 paradox for the loss "not teamfighting">abandonsWhat causes the sort of cognitive dissonance where you are numerically the worst player in the match and you still don't think you're at fault? It has to be low intelligence, right?
Just did 14k Last stand damage as Sinclair, enemy Warden only did 18k lmao
Watching a metro match where he hyper farms on seven. 20 minutes in and he's collectively lost 3k souls in deaths, biggest bag was 989. He is literally ignoring everything on the map besides jungles and waves no matter how dangerous it is and the funniest part is that he's not even ahead of most of the people on the enemy team
>>540991169So metro isn't much better than an Alchemist Se7en? Interdastin....
So when is valve going to do anything about smurfing? The fact that fuckers like Metro cycle through 5 different accounts on stream and not even getting a slap on the wrist for it is criminal.
>>540991169who?
>>540991169Yes he's a total fucking monkey who had his MMR boosted by abusing Wraith. There's a reason he's always playing on alt accounts on not his main one, he knows it's only a matter of time until he starts deranking
>>540991025Pointless, I'm not capable of getting better at this game. If I'm not even decent 456 hours, I won't get good 5000 hours in.
>>540991313Well you can at least be King of the 1k.
>>540991495What does this mean?
>>540991169>>540991259So you're saying Metro is a crybaby bitch who isn't good at the game? In other news, water is wet.
>>540991313>>540991495>>540991550is this AI bot interaction?
>>540991169>>540991259I watched a stream of his where his own chat turned against him when he was talking smack to someone in his game for being bad. He said something along the lines of being the number one Wraith in the entire world, how he's far better than anyone on his team, so his team should listen to him. He then stated this as a fact of the matter, that he isn't boasting and that it's only the truth.
>another loss with the enemy having gun ivy, billy, minai just wanted a victorious win fuck you game
i uninstalled and i am now happier
>>540991604It's just funny seeing him ignore everything besides money but end up losing so much of it anyways because he's a dumb fucking ape who think taking the T3 camps on the side after he just cleared a wave and pushed it not even half way up the lane is safe. He then proceeds to go the exact same spot in the lane, tries to kill 1 of the 2 people who killed him, gets that person to half, then tries to farm the t3 again and dies by the same 2 guys. Hyper farming is obviously a great way to win through sheer brute force but it's meaningless if you'er gonna lose your advantage by pissing it away by feeding and handing money straight to them. >>540991864Biggest ego streamer yet he doesn't play in comp matches at all
>>540991618No, I just genuinely don't know what that anon meant by "King of the 1k".
>>540918573>caring about ranksgo back to riot leaguetroon, this here's valve country.
>have to disconnect for a minute, pause first>come back to the game paused, but my teammates waited until after I died before they paused again>teammate yelling at me for not helping him (if you really wanted help why not keep it paused while I was alive???)>make fun of his slur and he stops talking for the rest of the gamelmao
>drifter lanemate>feeds constantly>calling him out after trying to ask him to stop diving and play safe doesn’t work>says a load of shit in Russian and quits>we’re down a man for the next 30m after he’s fed two of their carriesLiterally every single fucking drifter holy shit they all need to just stop playing every single damn one of them I hate them so much I genuinely can’t put it into words.
>>540921574>>540922324you are both bigboys who can push a minion wave, I believe in you.
does melee geist work, it seems like it would have potential with malice, spirit snatch, life drain
>>540992278I forgot balanced MM is reddit, my bad
>>540992741Caring about ranks before release is very reddit
if billy can light melee twice in the same span as a heavy melee and his effects are only 50% worse on a light melee and he has a fleetfoot effect on his light melee there's literally 0 fucking reason to ever hold Q as this retardbut the game doesn't mention any of this
>>540992741in it's current state the MM is completely busted anyways, so there is legitimately no reason to care about it unless you just want an arbitrary reason to make yourself upset. Turn off the setting and just play competitive without focusing on the ranking. ez peezy.
I'm gonna go take a shit, sorry if it starts and I'm AFK
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>>540988693if you get even a single kill off of a rebuttal (which will happen often due to no one checking items in laning phase, whiffing a parry and having it back sooner will 100% catch players off guard) it pays itself off, you guys have a very permanent mentality for items, stuff like healing rite/rebuttal is not a mainstay of your build, you use it to supplement your early game and sell it for half its cost after its given value
>>540992842ayup.
>>540991301Speaking of boosted i remember watching poshypop until valve dropped the solo only rank test and he just lost 20 ranks in a row and took a month offThats just how these types of games go tho, a bunch of boosted streamers
>>540992842Yes that is why full melee builds are a total meme and idiots getting themselves parried for heavy melees need to stop playing Billy
>>540991864>>540992014Someone just baited him into answering why doesn't he join a team and play in tournaments if he's so good at the game and he gives the excuse of "Uuuuuh, I don't have enough time to join a team and scrim for hours and there isn't any real money in tournaments yet, plus uuuh I love content creation too much."
why do you guys watch streamers you don't like?you know that helps them, right?
>>540993673>implying I even watch streamers I like
>>540993673metro hatewatching is a classic
>>540993673There's only one deadlock streamer that I watch
>>540993673He's the DSP of Deadlock.I'm investing early for golden content a few months from now.
>>540993794I love flat chested girls so much
>>540994098>girlvro…
>Wraith, Seven, and Victor are considered bad in Eternus>all three are considered OP below EternusWho is correct?
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>>540994350Seven is considered OP in Eternus stillWraith is considered a balanced heroVictor is generally considered bad but I think people just don't see the potential
>>540994430viktor will be good again if they fix how snowball the game is.
>>540994350they're not bad heroes per se. the problem is just that eternus games tend to end quickly and all three are hyperscalers
>>540994430Tell me this "potential" that somehow everybody else isnt seeing that magically fixes all of Victor's crippling problems.
>>540994350People can't face the trve but enternus is downstream of shitlow. Nobody is expirementing at that level they are locked in to what they believe is optimal
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>>540994640>everybody elseNah I'm not the only one. I think he shines in stacks where people play around his snowball potential.
Sex with Haze and yes, the anonymity spell stays on!!!
>>540994350Seven is still broken he's the only hypercarry that can scale fast enough to actually carry thanks to his 3 and comes online with less souls.Wrath is complete dogshit, her laning is horrible and needs 30k souls minimum to actually do anything. Viktor is even worse, there straight up is no laning phase with viktor you just survive and hope your guardian doesn't die within 5 mins. He also needs 30k souls to even FUNCTION and contributes absolutely nothing and makes the game a 5v6 before that and even then he might not even do that much when he's farmed up.
>>540995012can't you tell the AI to fix the beer can?
>>540993673>what is a lolcow
>>540994350huh? victor is considered good below fucking emissary if anything
>>540994350Wraith is literally only seen as OP when she hyperfarms to be 10k ahead. If Wraith is at even souls she's literally useless. Bad damage output, easily countered ult
>>540994350seven is op across all ranks, his only problem is that hes always on the ground if hes not ulting so hes very vulnerablewraith sucks but can solo carry if shes 20k aheadvictor is bad and if you lose to viktor any other hero you would have lost 10 minutes earlier
who the fuck designed holiday and how much fucking fent did they had to snort anally to think that giving her FOUR 1s cd spammable nukes WITH KNOCK-UP, AN ALL-ACROSS BETTER MO ULT AND ULTRA-MOBILITY WITH A FUCK-OFF-HANDCANNON TO TOP IT ALL OFF was a good idea? like how the fuck am i supposted to have a good time playing against this piece of shit? EVEN HER VOICE-LINES ARE DESIGNED TO BE AS SOULESS AS (IN)HUMANLY POSSIBLE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS PIECE OF SHITspell-breaker/warp stone/counterspell do not help in the slightest, she's this miserable to exist against
>>540995613Better start running pal
>>540995613>BETTER MO ULTobjectively wrong, mo ult being point and click makes him the best pick hero in the game and it's not even close.
What should Shiv do after winning or losing lane?
>victor is bad>yamato is good>dynamo is bad>Grey talon is good>mirage is bad>Mina is good>Wraith is bad>paradox is good>vyper is badHas the pro consensus ever been as wrong as the current?
>>540996432this is all true except mirage is fine
>>540995883Play frontline for whoever is popping off
>>540995825i'd rather get ulted by mo and die in the same spot than get lasso'd by The Cowwhore and get pulled away across the entire globe by her
>>540995613>AN ALL-ACROSS BETTER MO ULTit's a skillshot and holidays freaking out on the bounce pad ruins like half of the duration
pick your hero
>THEY REMOVED THE 3 NON-NEW HEROES CLAUSE
>>540996432I've never seen a viper team win.
>>540994350>*in NA trash elo.fixed that for you anon
>>540991550He means ''king of 1k MMR'' probably. Coming from Dota and all that, but people rarely talk about MMR now, its all those dogshit rank names. Should have said King of Herald idunno
Whenever I get a one sided match I report everyone on both sides with "I had a very unfun game due to this player" under the category griefing.Fix your matchmaking Valve.
>>540952109why is EVERY post with this tranny magnet attached always fucking terrible? EVERY time
Whenever I get a one sided match I understand that it's a normal part of the game and not every game is going to be a close match, so I don't freak out and report everyone or anything stupid like that. Dont fix your matchmaking Valve.
stop dying bro
>>540995825>>540998994>IT'S NOT BETTER MO ULT FOR (Skill issues)low elos need to vacate this thread.
>>540977981you need to buy ricochet and always be on point catchin waves. mirage basically cannot jungle until he gets ricochet
>>541004165It was actually a close map. Half the team made a retard call by not joining at mid boss and it lost us the match. They died in enemy base, our dps at mid wasn't enough to quickly kill, they rushed us, stole it, and match got extended 20 mins giving the match away.
