Surprise - EditionPrevious thread: >>540797820>Official sitehttps://warthunder.com/>Fan created contenthttps://live.warthunder.com/>Wikis with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanicshttps://wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Pagehttps://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old forums archive:https://pastebin.com/EyMhsLAJ>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEChttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00https://old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020>Guides on missiles, radars, radar warning receivershttps://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfA https://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFUhttps://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQ https://youtu.be/wAtTS8xSYEc >Guides on how to evade missiles and survive top tier:https://youtu.be/AsmGiyODPuM https://youtu.be/vUJJ94NwH_g https://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDk >Guided weapons statisticshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SsOpw9LAKOs0V5FBnv1VqAlu3OssmX7DJaaVAUREw78>What tanks have thermals and their generationshttps://thunderview.net/thermals/>All manner of statistics and datahttps://statshark.net/>Someone sending you runes?https://translate.yandex.com/ocrReminder: Expect the unexpectedThread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCxINyXWvLU
>>540997018can relate
>>540991915>>540990237I'm still here for an hour or two
catch my vikhr...
i wish you could still test naval shells against tanks
What's he smiling for?
>>540997292Made for BBB (Big Blasting Bolide)
>>540997464>manpad>takes 4 dudes to set it up
>>540997387I hired this yf-23 to stare at you
>>540997387crazy how russians ripped off the design, then used it to flatten a su30 and called it 5th gen o algo
>>540997702it's a BFMBIG FUCKING MANPAD
>>540998014ragebait
>>540998159it do be a blatant ripoff
>>540998159>>540998014more like TRVKE
>>540996768She's MY wife though
totally organic
>>540998393I've had her eat out my female toons and suck the cocks of my male ones.She is MINE.
>>540998359>>540998375
>540998503indeed it isnow how about you make a stealth jet of your own, mister flat su30
>540998359>540998375why is the 'cord chimping this time?
GRB is the only game I've ever played where I'm as bad at it now after 500 hours as I was after 20 hours.Every other game I've ever played I've been able to understand what I do wrong and can progress, to the point of top 100 in ladder in various FPS and RTS.But I will ALWAYS be shit at groundRB. I can understand AirRB on what I do wrong. Why is GRB so different?I watch pros and they SOMEHOW have like a psychic ability to know where enemies are and just YOLO all around the map and everytime they come up on some body, that somebody is pretty much always conveniently looking in the opposite direction. Yet if anyone else YOLOs, they are dead within 1 second, and whenever they come up on someone, that someone prefires into their face killing them.
leo 1 is such a fun sniping tank, it has gotten horribly power crept though, oh well is very fun
Can you really blame the Russians tho? It's a cool plane...
>>540998359>no ram coating>screws exposed>compressor blades exposed>missile bay doors misaligned from the factory>last model downgraded to 2d tvcgrim
Reminder do not rely on clouds, gaijin does not correctly synch the seeds for some fucking reasonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSy6oFmNxfIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--MxLmOFr7Q
>>540998832there are certain paths people generally go on each map and eventually you figure out generally where people are going to be, you just have to learn spots on maps where you can be to take advantage of that
I just got the BradleyThe missiles are wonky and don't fly straight like they do in test drive. Not as bad as Sheridan but still annoying. I am constantly firing at vehicles, getting the hit animation box, which shows it does zero damage, and from my perspective, the missile isn't within 500 feet of the enemy I get the hit box animation for. What the fuck is this dogshit? Desync? sErVeRs ArE fInE sToP mAkInG RePoRtS iTs On YoUr eNd
>>540998913But enough about 15-10 year old T-50s.
>>540999207https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/XSIar8513LpJGaijin has made it so atgms go on "tracks" which get more apparent the further they go this doesn't appear in the test ranges
>>540999061I'm literally copying these paths and they NEVER work. Some of the campy snipey spots do, but all these 'good' players will YOLO through the map to a camp spot behind the caps and just farm 10-12 kills where they magically do not encounter anyone, or when they do, they are facing the wrong way. Whenever I try these routes in the same exact vehicle, I'm dead before I'm 1/3rd the way there by someone across the map.
>>540999207test drive vehicles are significantly weaker than the ones you find in matches even if it's the same thing :)
>>540999207Getting a massive PL spike like every other game usually about 3-5 min into battle, at this point i expect it.
>>540999381Of course Russian ATGMs fly perfect though.
>>540998554No, Lana only loves me. All other relationships are non-cannon.
>>540999207gaijin dicked down ATGM's a while ago>>540999564You TURNED HER AGAINST ME!
someone shot me down while i was taking screenshot
>>540999331cope
Kinda want the F-16A OCU but I know Anton's going to move it to 13.0 after I get it.
>>540998832this game is 99% absolute retards and gaijin are using it to find autists who have the war strategy quirk when russia declares war on you, you'll live I'll get drone striked within minutes
somebody post the f22 face acne
>>540998832You need to be a boring cowardly bushfaggot in order to do well in GRB, if you don't have these basic qualities you'll never excel. Just play arcade instead.
rape russians
why does grinding rp in ground realistic take so long? even a little amount like 9k feels like a herculean task, i don't think it's a skill issue honestly, i'm not that much better at playing air but it feels like i get a lot more rp there. shouldn't it be the other way? cause in ground battles you need an actual lineup instead of just one vehicle so you'd think they'd let you unlock them faster
>>541000998>92% victory rate against planes that outclassed it in every way imaginablewere fingols that good at flying or did soviets just put anyone in a cockpit?
>>541000998why would you want to do that? You'll just get aids
>>541001384>were fingols that good at flying or did soviets just put anyone in a cockpit?Given no one but finngols liked that piece of shit (which is why they ended up with them), the soviets just had ass pilots
remind us what happened to your women in berlin in 1945
>>541001230the fact that you're able to bring a lineup is whyevery action in a plane needs to count cause if you die, you're out of the game, ergo doing shit gets you more RP than it would in groundin tanks you can either keep respawning (more RP opportunities) or you can keep farming the respawning opponents (more RP opportunities)and keep in mind that bullying the player is literally the business model, if you can get all the fun you want easily, you're unlikely to buy a shiny premium
>>541001384Finnish pilots had good understanding of their planes and combat tactics while shitviet subhuman pilots on average had less than 50 hours of training before being sent to the frontline
>>540999390By "good players" you must mean CCs that post their gameplay videos, and in that case it's because Gaijin manipulates their accounts so that they get preferred matchmaking, so that these CCs can make videos and say "this could be you!" so that you don't start thinking too much about why certain core aspects of the game suck in a manner that increase the odd of you, the affected player, spending money to ease the pain, because you've judged, thanks to such videos, that the problem is (You), not the game. There's also cherrypicking, which is easier to detect with certain CCs than othersThat being said, it is possible to get these high kill games, as long as you position yourself in the right place AND time in the match, and to discover these places, YOLO is a very valid strategy. Yes, you'll die a lot, but you'll sometimes find an impressive spot that will always grant you a couple easy kills, but you'll have to find some 3 to 5 such spots in the same map to get the high kill countOther that YOLO, a nice class of tanks that makes you become creative with your positioning are light tanks that are fast AND have at least a decent gun. I've found some pretty cool places that nobody ever talks about in the M18, which netted me 5 kills. You can then translate this knowledge into other classes of tanks, sans casemate TDs perhapsAnother thing that boosts the kill count of most non-CC high-performing players is CAS. I've seen CASissies that brought 1 tank and 6 planes as their lineup, and it's no wonder that the faggot got +10 killsLast but not least, you gotta bring tanks that don't suck. They gotta be either glass cannons or frontally almost unpennable monsters. Applying this "rule" excludes almost half of the tanks of certain nations, so it's something you have to beware
>>541001541it essentially followed soviet aircraft design philosophy but did it better, brewster just weren't fit for where the US meta
I'm fucking lateKorea for Japan
>>541001384A mix of the two heavily weighted towards the latter>outclassed it in every way imaginableThe buffalos the finns had were almost entirely different beasts than the models provided to everyone else as a result of being stripped down, they were much better handling-wise than the shitbricks they faced (mostly LaGGs and MiG-1/3s) while only being slightly slower at low altitude which is where the majority of the combat in that theater took place
>>541001983It was still a piece of shit
Did you play ships today?
>>541000616>boring cowardly bushfaggotOh yeah, this too, specially the cowardly part. You essentially have to treat your teammates as sacrifices that'll reveal and/or bring out the enemy into your gun's sight. You even see some CCs call their teammates "meat", as if this is an acceptable thing to say
>>541002251it's all relative
>>541001384Finns are just built different, they repeatedly stopped helinski from getting bombed with a handful of flak 88s and Bf-109G6shttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Helsinki_in_World_War_II
>>541001384Soviets had ok to shit rushed pilots and terrible manufacturing of the planes they did produce, the yak's for instance could be good planes when they were produced to spec which was rare.
>>541002303Yes, in WoWS
>>541002251The F2A could have been remembered as a mediocre but dependable workhorse in a similar vein to the Wildcat if Brewster hadn't been fucking retarded and actually designed it with the equipment weight requirements of a naval aircraft in mind
>>541002303Are there night battles in shi(t)ps? I'd like to recreate Yuudachi's Solomon Islands gigachad battlehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHAjBwmQkJ0
>>541002742which it is, in Finland it has to be remembered that this was versus soviets who praised american lend-lease pieces of shit and produced countless german aces but whatever
>>541002529maybe i should reinstallkeep getting emails with gifts for playing like 5 battles 10 years agoany of these any good
Ikv 9140 when?
>>541003350That's an insane ammout of free stuff, I would. I keep WT and WoWS installed and just play a bit of each when I feel like it. What's good is that WoWS has a lot of rotational PvE modes that you can play and also grind if you just want to relax.
卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍Sieg Heil卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍卍
>>541005124woah!that's so cool Anonymous I wish I could be like you
>>541003350>50,000 DoubloonsHoly fucking moly, my dim memories of playing years ago told me that was a lot of premium currency but I didn't expect it to be that much.
>OK Chads, put the kettle on huh
>>541006616All Britain players are chads, yes.
>>541006616battle is over, time for a rest
>>541006616Chaps
>>541006840cope
>>541003350>>541006119Do they really give you this much free shit to entice you back into playing?Fuck I'll need to remember the email I used for WOWS...
>>541002303nakadashi fubuki>>541003350its funny that they put kitakami in this list to give away for free to people who don't play because its the most expensive ship ever sold in WoWS
>>541005124windmill of happiness trvther
>>541005124highly russophobic post, you are triggering misha's generational trauma
>>541007640who decided that
>>541007640The vast majority of nazi fetishists I've seen online are slavic or of slavic descent
>>541008072>>541008215it's ok, nazi germany no longer exists, you will be ok just breathe
>>541008332tranny
>>541008215That's the natural and highly ironic consequence of 80 straight years of Soviet/Russian propaganda constantly bombarding people with the idea that the Nazis were some super mega unstoppable ultimate force in order to portray the Soviets as being an even more super mega unstoppable ultimate force because they were on the winning side.
>>541003350I reinstalled it, went to play a few battles, and left in complete disgust and sadness at the absolute state in which a game I so loved back in the days has come toBasically, PvP matches are chock full of literal marked bot ships, and you'd be lucky to have a match with a total of 8 real players, 4 on each side, because the average is 1v1 or 2v2 real players on each side, with the rest of the positions filled with botsMoreover, they changed the skill tree, so if you've grinded the skill points back in the days, tough luck, all your effort was erased and now you're forced to have only 10 pointsThe UI also sucks, way too clutteredOh, and they changed the carrier gameplay, so you do not have control over your planes anymore, and you can only take control of one torpedo plane or 2 dive bomb planes. Carrier was very fun and engaging to play thanks to its squad RTS style of gameplay, but not anymoreThere's also subs but it appears that they removed sub lines and so only the players that grinded them are the ones that have themAlso I believe they made it so citadels are harder to hit, so it's an endless peashooting contest
>>541009016But still better than War Thunder's naval mode thoughbeit
>>541009016The carrier change was good IMO, torpedo bombers were beyond obnoxious in the hands of any semi-competent player.
>>541010678It's pretty much the same, from torpedo deployment to target lock and citadeling, the only noticeable difference is the handling, which is way worse than WoWS
Should I bother getting M735 or just stick with the stock APDS until tier 4? It seems kinda fine?
love me some wunderwaffles
>>541011079WoWS has better maps, better graphics, better UI, better camera controls, better aiming imo.
best plane/strat to farm rp? mig 21 fucking sucks and the amx is straight up useless
>>541010934Carriers followed pretty much the same principle as CAS/CAP does in WT, so to combat the enemy carrier, you either relied on your carriers deploying fighters to cover you, or bundling up together with the high AA stat cruisers. Of course, teamwork is asking too much from the average player in any game, so it had to be scrappedStill, new players will never know how fun and rewarding it was to dodge carrier torpedo formations, pure bliss
>>541011527M735 is worth it I think
>>541011805mig21
>>541012779kys black nigger
>GRB 6.7>full uptier>radar aimed SPAA vs Spitfiremight as well add Ratte
>>541014609ratte as an alternative to nuke below whatever battlerating nuke becomes available would be really fun
Does this mean the fun finally begins?
>>541001384it evens the odds a little when you rip all the navalized equipment out to make a pure landfighter out of the Buffalo, I swear there's never any real reason to use the J22 beyond spading if you want a radial .50 fighter just because the buffinalo is such a UFO
>>541011527While not as prone to shattering as in the lower tiers due to more conventional looking armor it still shatters often enough to be annoying, less pen which means less damage and APDS instead of APFSDS which means even less damage when it comes to higher caliber guns. Extra pen and precision are nice on longer ranges and they reduce the chances of something fucking up (examples being bouncing on the driver's port of a T-72 for unknown reasons). All in all I'd say it's worth it.
>>541014609the destruction of all of the cool speculative ratte projections using sensible off-the-shelf tank turrets and one naval turret by the discovery of photos of the actual retarded scale models was absolutely devastating
>>541014982J22's flight model is a crime>nimble and fast for what it was irl, able to consistently beat J26 in dogfights>out-turned by bombers and outran by biplanes in the game
>>541012891dont ask for help if youre gonna be a shitter
>>541015649okay so it's NOT supposed to be like that, I thought the swiggers had just made an overweight lemon. I would've asked if they preemptively gave it 190 syndrome so burgermutts and ruskimutts wouldn't have a conniption over a nimble well-armed radial ass raping them and germs wouldn't ask why the 190 is the way it is, but the accursed report happened in 2023 and the J22 predates it by three or so years.
>>541015649imagine any nation could've produced a cw21 if they were as enthusiastic in their sales pitch
>>541014836I'm not having fun
>>541014836Only if you have the other 6.7 rapemachinesThe ideal use of the jumbo pershing is lategame sodomizing of 2nd/3rd spawns
>>541018937Another week of grinding to build the lineup I guess
Damn, so you're telling me CV90120 weighs almost as much as a T-55? A tank with actual armor? How do swiggers do it?
It's fucking 1st of October. Where's my new profile picture, Gaijin?
>>541014836Heavy tanks suck dick. I cannot stand shit with no mobility or reactivity.
>>541019815The cocksuckers added the picture but not the plane.
this thread is the only non horny thread in a sea of coomunless you fags goon to tanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYFCGbSgoc0!
>>541019814Why the fuck to XM246 and 247 weigh 10 tons more than Pattons when their turrets are just 5mm sheets of steel instead of thick ass armor?makes no sense
>>541021660what kind of sexual fetishes does sofilein have?tall irish autistic goofballs?
>>541021660>WoT clone
>>541021627Yes
>>541021915big bellied WW2 historiansalso a size queen for sure
>>541022447You just know this woman buys every big gun tank in every game and has a separate room for her bad dragon collection.
retard friend lost a bet and now has to buy some shit.Do I make him buy the T30 tank for himself or Golden birdies for me? I think he has a 6.7 line up.
>>541022907T30 was giga based last patch but I hear gaijin changed overpressure? might still be giga based considered it's on the extreme side of HE utilizing vehicles
what happened to thermals on the type 87
still no Ajax tiresome pycpigger devs
>>541021467isn't it barely scraping above half the speed of the Po-2 while only being a high wing and not a biplane? I don't usually poopoo vehicles on meme performance grounds, but what's the point unless they make it an event tagged vehicle for reserve star grinds?
Hey NIGGERSHope you enjoyed swallowing my entire bomb load from the stratosphere HAHAHANo, your Rolands and Strelas aren't going to reach me LMAO
>>541024847Where the FUCK is SWIP btw
so if infantry is added, how will Gaijin handle infantry matchmaking? The same way they do now where anyone can fight anyone? Or will they do Axis v Allied and NATO v Warsaw Pact stuff like in Sim?
>>541024603It should be added anyway because it would be fun.
>>541025541What would even be the difference between each nations' infantries? A gun is a gun
>>541026258Russian early cold war and modern gear remains literally the same, they have been using the same raggedy ass AK-47 since forever, they also get unkillable chest plates immune to 5.56
waow... generous....
>>541025763that's true, also I'm extremely rarted and mixed up the kph and mph values it's a bit faster than the Po-2>>541026258The difference is that 1945 German volksturm, early to mid 70s late 'Nam American GIs and '60s Soviet motostrelki will all be at the exact same BR as one another due to balans ))))) in fact, Volksturm is are OP and will be of higher (((((
>>541026675Why would the second most handheld nation in the game suddenly suffer when it comes to infantry?
>>541026258what weaponry they can bring in and what vehicles they'll use. I imagine the infantry mode will let things like the AC-47/AC-130 gunships to be somewhat usefull, along with transport helicopters. But other then that. just uniforms. which will get giga monetized, you better believe if you want ERDL for your GI, it'll cost 200-500 GE, multicam for your slav(e)? 500 GE.
>>541026648wat u want free abrams?
For what in what for in for
>>541027310>forced multicam slop unless you pay for a non shit camoI can see them doing this
>>541026597There's a long development history of the AK platform. True Ak-47's basically don't exist in the military anymore because they were replaced with AKM's almost immediately. China has more Ak-47s if anything because they were given the outdated design documentation and used it for far longer up until they stole some SVD's and made an infantry rifle based by reverse engineering that.
