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Sky... boomer...
>>541017401Blessed OP
A reminder that "Rean made sure there were literally zero deaths" is NISA fanfiction.
>>541017836Nobody said zero deaths it’s just trying to end the war early by helping Osborne something that crow did with cayanne
Funny how cs2 gets talked about more than Sky and Estelle even though the remake just came out
>>541018243Funny how Reanspics eat shit, yes.
Not really, /fg/ is just retarded
Maybe we need to stop holding back...
>>541014226I like fanserviceI like panty shotsI like sexy as fuck lolisI like age gap romanceI like girls "sexually harassing" each otherI like incestFalcom better not remove my only reasons to play their shit games.
Love my beautiful, cute, loving, supportive, caring, and adorable wife
>>541018387Melty alert from schizo. Dude see cs ghosts all around him
Love Altina from the hit series Trails of Cold Steel, and also milking male cocks with my eager mouth
>>541018586I'll remove those things. And you won't, can't stop me.
>>541018387A retarded anon just got proven wrong about something that happens to cs2 and your just proving right that cs haters are the dumbest illiterate people around
>>541018635He got owned on the previous general, other guy even got the last word in before him so he's REALLY upset now lol
All arcwarfags are demonstrably worse than every other poster in these threads
>>541018586Notice how there was no girls groping each other in Calvard? Truly shit arc.
>>541018781Don't make fun of that dude. He thought blades were blunt objects for a minute and could not explain why ships magically fall from the Sky if Valimar rushed by them
>>541018781Grim how that retard somehow saw 4 separate airship halves in this imageScary to imagine how he must perceive life
Controversial take, I like all kiseki titles and can appreciate the flaws of them all.kuro 2 will forever always be shit though.
>>541019438shut it you fence sitting retard
>>541019505How am I a fence sitter if I play all of the games?
>>541019658Haha...you need to choose an arc and be ready to go to war and die defending it.
No, I don't think he will
>>541019827That won't be necessary.
>>541019859He must. He has no choice. That is our curse.
Just shit on the parts you don't likeLike Elise
Remember:Entering a dimensional death castle floating in dark space and vanquishing a giant undying corrupted dragon by way of simple combat? Okay and understandable feats of strength.Using your futuristic mecha knight to hit the rotor and/or engines of an airship to disable it safely? Unrealistic and impossible.This is the level of mental lucidity you can expect from Rean Derangement Syndrome sufferers
tough month for the vankids being destroyed by sky fans and cs fansat least the crossbell fans haven't joined in on the fun lol
>>54102055crossbellers were getting raped by rufus
>>541019438kuro 2 did a good job with quatre, feri, and risette character development though. It also gave aso more time together making their team chemistry stronger which CS failed to do.
>>541019658How the fuck did they make Nemeth Island look so good, giving rocks and shit actual textures and drop the ball so hard with the Sky FC remake, making it look like a PS2 game with N64 textures?
>>541020552You're the most pathetic poster ITT.
>>541020552sky fans are literally the ones that made the schizo about rean cuting the ship in half and misunderstanding the arc the most. Sky fans are the biggest CS haters due to how different the two arcs are in story and characters
>>541020676falcom was too concerned with making everything look too 1:1 that they didn't want to deviate and make areas look different.
>>541020102I ask once again: does Juna have bad genes that will inevitably make her age into a sad little ball like her mom or does her mom look like that because she had 3 kids. And the twins are like almost a decade younger than Juna
>>541019185Its always funny to see youtubers have melties over that. I mean they did get rid of it in calvard to appeal to the west more. There is still awesome fanservice scenes and dlc so its not too bad in calvard
>>541020834I'd say it's more so that they had to scale everything down to almost comical degrees for the game to run on the Switch 1, since.their engine is terribly optimized (remember how Kuro 1 couldn't run at steady 60 fps on the PS4?) and Falcom's lead programmer being an intern. Doesn't help that the Switch was the lead platform and the couldn't be bothered to give the PS5 and PC high def textures.
Kai 2 will be Their Game and there's nothing you can do about it.
So let me get this straight based off the credits for sky the first, falcom hired a localizer(not gungho) to do multiple languages, then gungho won the bidding war afterwards to publish? So is falcom going to do the same thing with kai 2 for a faster release schedule for the west or they will keep NISA and their localizer team for it?
>>541021343Can't moders just make ultra detailed textures with AI? Game looks like shit as is.
>>541021343the engine excels in some areas but fails in others. having all the highways and cities on essentially 1 giant map is new thing for the 3d games but then they neutered the towns by making all the indoors a loading screen. its obvious that the games development is getting cucked by the switch but falcom is trying to be creative about it atleast. i'm fine with the games looking "bad" but falcoms art direction is just totally bland and boring. look at what gust has been doing with atelier in recent years and they make zones look amazing despite still being on the switch. falcom just plays it too safe with its art direction because they have to make assets they can reuse nonstop.
>>541021560to soon to say but I imagine NISA will still do kai 2. A big deciding factor on why gungho did sky was because the script was essentially done so falcom wanted to do a swift global release and nisa was busy with Kai already. It all depends on if falcom will share the script for kai 2 or not during development.
I am the one that came up with the insult Vankid, and I don't even hate the Calvard arc. I just laugh at those that get so mad at it.
>>541021861I see. But if falcom can do it with CLE why cant they do the same thing with NISA? since horizon will make them caught up then falcom can treat NISA like CLE and can give them script early. Falcom just has to do the pc port then
>>541017401I'm on the endgame of Coldsteel 4, is it just me or are Trails characters a little TOO forgiving? You'd think Class VII [Rean especially] would more of a grudge over what the Iron bloods are doing
>>541021656I like 1st's art direction, performance and UI a lot more than any other 3D Falcom game. Here's hoping they target Switch 2 for 2nd and leave the shitty tablet with 2014 tech behind.
>>541022118because falcom hates the west despite it carrying the series with china at this point and kondo is a liar.also didnt falcom be super petty and take the license away from xseed and gave it to nisa because they didnt want to localize tokyo xanadu?
>>541022125Its a little confusing and weird and it could have been explained better. Reverie does a better job explaining the ironbloods than cs4 does. But essentially the ironbloods want the same thing as class7, they want ishmelga destroyed they have to set up the war in order to set up the rivalries so that its possible to rid the world of the curse ishmelga. The ironbloods chose to be the villians to do so. Wheras class 7 has to defeat ishmelga and end the rivalries before the second day of the war starts and the reforged great one becomes too overpowered to defeat. Reverie does a better job clearing some stuff up. CS4 is regarded as one of the most polarizing and divisive titles in the fanbase.
>>541022251falcom doesnt hate the west they made calvard arc cater to the west and didnt include fanservice dlc in sky the first because of the west. They need the west they know it they even did simul release for sky the first because they are desperate
>>541022241Nintendo still mandating games to be made on the Switch 1 lolYou won't get native Switch 2 games for a loooooooong time
This new quest was actually cute.Easily my favorite one.
>>541022241Yeah honestly 1st's cel-shaded, more anime look is way, way, way preferable to the Calvard arc's more realistic, Western look.It's a fucking anime game series and should look anime.
1/3Since the sky remake is a soulless piece of shit I decided it would be more fun and a better use of my time to calculate the size of Liberl based on information provided in game.Assumptions:-The map of Liberl shown in game is accurate and with a constant scale. Opposed to real life ancient maps that only vaguely resemble the physical terrain.[1]-The roads on the Liberl map are also accurate to the Liberl terrain.-The distances written on roadsigns in the game are correct and consistent (which they are not, but could be a methodology problem).-The distances written on the roadsigns show the distance one would travel from the exact point of the sign, to the destination written, taking the road depicted on the map.-1 Selge = 100 Meters.[2]-The scale of the distances measured is not enough to bother with introducing any planetary curvature to the calculation, instead assuming that Liberl (and Zemuria) exist on a 2d plane.Methodology:We compile a list of all signs shown in the game (that I actually bothered writing down).We import the Liberl map from the game game (after adding together a few screenshots in photoshop) into a GIS program.For a coordinate system, we pick some arbitrary cartesian coordinates, since we don't care about any absolute distances the program will give us.We measure the distance in app of the path (not the direct straight line) between all compiled two point pairs we have a canonical distance between.Multiplying the canonical distance by 100 (to use meters instead of selge) and dividing by the measured distance in the program, we get some ratio, which is different between all point pairs.
>>5410231242/3Methodology continuation:We take the average of the ratios, and calculate a STD.In order to calculate the fake size of Liberl based on the imported map, we make a polygon in the program that covers the entire country and let the program calculate its area in the arbitrary cartesian units we set.Next we multiply the arbitrary unit area by the average ration we calculated earlier to the second power (area*ratio*ratio) and get the 'real' size of liberl.Calculation:Since falcom didn't bother to actually calculate the distances and just wrote approximate distances, the ratios I got varied between 139:1 and 46:1 in the arbitrary units I used, with the average being 80.74±24.98, but for most applications it doesn't matter that much.The total area of Liberl came out to be 14,045±107 square kilometers.Discussion:While this calculation is by no means completely accurate, it gives us a general scale of the size of Liberl, based purely on in-world canonical data.The reason we don't use and in game measurements is because it's clear that the game terrain and cities are nothing more than a representation of the cities and distances between them. Villages and cities are not built with 3 buildings and a church.To compare with the real world, Liberl is roughly the size of Montenegro, Connecticut for the americans, or slightly smaller than the island of Shikoku for the weebs.In other words, it's fucking tiny, no wonder estelle can cover it on foot in a few months.
>>541022507I mean, I am hoping that for the people bitching about textures. To me, the game looks fantastic regardless
>muh soulMeaningless meme word for those too dull to accurately articulate what they specifically like or don't dislike about something.A linguistic crutch for the feeble of mind.
>>5410233293/3Discussion continuation:If we extrapolate this information further, based on the map of zemuria[3], under all the previous scale assumptions, we can surmise that erebonia is about 5 liberls (completely by eye, I can't be bothered to make more polygons), or 70,225 sqkm, comparable to ireland (the country not the island).And the entirety of zemuria would be around 25 liberls, or 351,125 sqkm, pretty close to current day germany.I think other kiseki games also have some distance markers, but I wont know them untill I replay the games again, so I can't comment on compatibility of this calculation with other games.But hey, that's just a theory.Citations:[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hereford_Mappa_Mundi[2] https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/Metric_system[3] https://kiseki.fandom.com/wiki/Zemuria
>>541023392Sky 1st is cute and soulful.Sorry you can't understand or appreciate that.
>>541022487>didnt include fanservice dlc in sky the first because of the west.One of the big reasons wh the Japs didn't buy the slop remake. A pre-release fanservice DLC campaign boosts sales in Japan. Imagine the sales if Tita go a micro bikini DLC. Japs would buy the shit game just for this.
You can keep repeating it but it's not true
It's true, though. You could show a video of Sky 1st to any stranger on the street and ask them to summarize what they say in two words and they will all say it was "cute and soulful."Show it your mother, I bet she'll agree.
>>541024070just download the nude mods off of lovers lab to enjoy your 2014 era polygon tiddy retard
>>541024070I mean......... I guess but my point really is that falcom does want to make the west a priority customer as well in the future. But I cant see falcom doing world wide release for kai 2 because NISA uses a method of localization that takes too long and they themselves do the pc port. If NISA just publishes/advertises and hires voice production then it is possible so long as falcom can give them script earlier and change their cutoff time for no more editing of it
>>541024070I don't think so. I buy VA autism more than your coomer delusions.
These people are so fucking annoying
>>541020887Her mom is cute, shut the fuck up
>>541025804love the random zoom calls glad they brought them back in kai
>>541020887that's a pretty great hag though, dunno what you're complaining about
>>541024941Exactly my point. Why buying the official product if what I want is a custom mod by fans. Might as well pirate it since the official product does nothing to entice me buying it. Believe it or not, coomers are a substancial target audience in Japan especially. And looking at the success of games like Stellar Blade in the west, it's not all to different in the west. Sex sells.
>>541020102At a glance I thought this picture was her mom making her stand in the corner after spanking her.
>>541025894>>541026102Are we seeing the same little sad ball-shaped human?
>>541026281coomers just play gachashit nowadays, removing costumes no one gave a shit about is well worth lowering the rating
>>541026616shes an anime hag not a real hag
>>541026281Zoomers care about marketing and fighting for a cause. The best example I can give is BG3 versus trails. Trails to them is an evil Japanese series making games for incel anime fans to leech at girls. While BG3 is empowering women with their bodies and promoting left rights. Doesn’t matter if what I just said was nonsense and word salad. That’s how they view it. Every piece of media isn’t a game, movie, or a book. It’s a war to them
>>541026883I'm sorry, but she looks like shit compared to Gaius', Kurt's, Rean's and Alisa's mom.
>>541027332Forgot my pic
>>541020887Gaius' mom pumped out 4 kids and still looks 20.
I dunno you guys, Joesette's kinda doing it for me.
hahaman
You can actually see Grancel from here, neat
I was looking through my steam discovery queue and it said Sky had sensitive content, even when it's showing me stuff like Breeding City. What's going on?
Funny how /fg/ hates Tita after the whole Kurt thing.
>>541028773...badroido good
>>541029097DON'T LOOK AT THE RECENT SCREENSHOTS IN THE STEAM COMMUNITY HUB
>>541028148True. I guess she just has shit genes then lmaoWhoever gets with Juna better enjoy her good years; she is gonna age like milk left in sunlight
my kino 2 experience so far
>>541023856Many are saying this.
Man the translation quality really went to shit in Zeiss. Does it continue to be this bad or is it exclusive to chapter 3?
Do you guys think Dorothy takes lewd pics of herself with her camera?
>>541026953Gamers want fun games period. You're basically describing the modern audience, who have failed to showed up to other games that have championed progressive values. Veilguard and Dustborn to name a few. People flock to BG3 not because it's woke but because it's a fun and enjoyable game. Bg3's wokeness is tolerable enough to not hinder the the gameplay. The fact that Shadowheart is the most picked romance means the majority of its players are men still.
>>541030953Dorothy doesn't know her vagina has functions outside of peeing and bleeding a few days every month.
>>541030953Dorothy doesn't have a lewd thought in her empty head. If she has taken any pics, they're entirely accidental.
>remake game that had no fanservice>add in multiple bikinis>schizo still cries censored
>>541031125>>541031150Can we trick Dorothy into taking lewd pictures of herself?
Why do people need a pass to move around Liberl? Reminds me of the USSR and the internal passports they had. Extremely inconvenient
>>541034385Early on they established that it was because of the airship hijacking.
>>541034826I think it was like that even when I played the demo, which was before the incident.
What is the hardest fight on Nightmare in Sky 1st Chapter?e.g. what is the fight you should save all your Zeram items for?
>>541035305Jade tower fight protecting looooooooke
Kurokings won.
>>541017401Been reading past threads and I have to ask: why is anyone surprised that reddit hates the gungho literal translation and prefer rewrites? Do you anons not know about FFT War of the lions? With the remaster out it should be known that the west prefers random rewrites over accuracy. Wotl is a completely inaccurate medieval English rewrite and yet everyone online says it's the better script.The west prefers scripts written by themselves over the translation of a foreigner's script. Also known as western exceptionalism~
>>541035708Why are westoids like this bros......
>>541035708..huh. you're right. never thought of it that way but yeah I played wotl decades ago and it's praised as a god script just because it imitates old english. by that same logic nisa rewrites are more accepted than literal scripts because it adds modern english slang... darn.
>>541035708>everyoneNot I.The Shakespearean English is buttfucking retarded. Nobody wants to have to read that shit.If you have to look up words online, it's a bad translation.Orwell's rules of writing #2: Never use a long word where a short one will do.
>>541035708>>541035917There's a reason DQ has kept it's ole Br*t*sh rewrites
>>541035997>Orwell's rules of writing #2: Never use a long word where a short one will do.And I think of this as implying "never use an uncommon word when a common word will do" as well.This is something that is taught in journalism school and a good translation is one that a newspaper editor would approve of. Never use an uncommon word when a common word will do. The translation should be written so the largest number of people will understand it, like a newspaper article.
>>541035997>>541035917I'm just saying that if a popular series like FF has the majority of its' fanbase defend massive rewrites then it makes complete sense for Falcom to have their own band of rewrite worshippers.
>>541035708I think Xstelle's quips and other lines > GungHo's MTLslop that still has liberties sprinkles in here and there.
>>541036312It's a completely different thing, though.The FFT rewrite is fucking stupid, but Xseed's Bestelle is... fun. She just is. Really fun.Xstelle is memorable and endearing. So people like that translation.I think people who like the FFT rewrite are pretentious as shit, though. "Ooh lookit me, I like Shakespearean English, aren't I so fucking cultured?"
>>541036496That preferential treatment you give to xseed's rewrite is no different than what fft fans do for their rewrite. There's no difference aside from your personal preferences. It's selective.
>>541036692Actually my subjective opinions are objective fact so there is a difference.
do you think falcom wants to make a first person shooter
>>541036219>>541035997PREACH THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT. Its why daybreak 2s localization is so dogshit and makes a bad game even worse
>>541036903They'll reboot Star Trader and do that haha
>>541036923daybreak 2's problem was neither uncommon words nor difficult prose but rather god awful modern lingo that will be outdated soon. like older games using RADICAL or other 2000s slang...
>>541035708people that prefer rewrites are also people the play exclusively with dub and are unaware or ignorant to the character changes. Its the same thing with reverie and the calvard games. The calvard cast has been completly bastardized in the localization but you wont know that if your playing with english dub or havent played or looked at the fan translation Im glad there are people on the fandom that are voicing criticism towards xseed script it shows not every westoid wants fanfiction
>>541036219Slangs and memes should never be used period. It dates the translation in a couple of years when the slang is outdated. A couple of years from now the pronouns translation in Daybreak 2 would be more immersion breaking.
>>541037159rizz and girlboss isnt the only bad thing about it theres a lot of paraphrasing and resued idioms and phrases like "gift horse in a mouth" or "put a pin on that" when the database comes out its more clear. Its not hatsuu not being the head person anymore so its a different dude doing it that was part of daybreak 1 team if im not mistaken
>>541035163You don't travel to other regions in the prologue.
it does feel like aaron says more weird juvenile talk and cusses far more than what I believe he does. Then again I dont know the jp script but I find it hard to believe he cusses every single time lol
I don't think translations should be blatantly inaccurate or essentially change characters' personalities.That being said, Xstelle is fun, memorable and endearing and I can understand why people like her. I like her, even.Some of the memes in Geofront's Crossbell arc translations were also fun and memorable, even if they were bruh moments.Something can be simultaneously bad and good. Don't have a melty over it.
>>541035997>If you have to look up words online, it's a bad translation.HOLYFUCKINGRETARD
>>541037259That's why localization is the industry where the people are embracing the AI takeover. Dubs won't be even safe because I think they are planning to use the original jp voices and redub them into any language through AI.
>>541037361the problem is the new localizer for daybreak games were in the same pool of friends with the geofront people and xseed people that had that kind of style of localizing with slangs and memes. Which also sucks is since hes also a "fan" of the trails series he will put his own trails memes he comes up with for the daybreak characters. van is waaay more memey in the localization than in the jp version hes a different character
>>541037453I know. But if I lived in Liberl and wanted to travel for leisure etc, I wouldn't be allowed to. I don't think the pass system is very good.
>>541037589For the record, I have an English-related degree from a top 25 university and was the only student in the history of my high school to get a perfect score on the AP English exam. I'm well-read.We're talking video games here, not high art. It's badly-written if the average person won't understand it. Period.
>>541037529bro sounds like a kid who just learned about cussing. need a jpscriptGOD but I would also wager Aaron doesn't curse every line (not even an exaggeration in daybreak 2)
>>541037545I actually think geofront had a decent balance over liberties and faithful translations. I will say scott should not have made the comment of "making the intermission actually more fun" thats something I hate about localizers but regardless geofront actually didnt do the fanfiction as much as the current games do. In serious moments serious dialogue does happen whereas in daybreak 2 even in serious moments nadia talks like a dumbass
>>541035997To put this in a way you'll understand: kek retard
>>541037361>Slangs and memes should never beFuck off.I still love and replay Conker's Bad Fur Day from time to time and love that it's a little time capsule of the late 90s. Don't give a fuck if zoomers like you can't appreciate that. Better than robotic phrases that work better in Japanese or oddly translated MTLslop.
>>541037694It's just a small inconsistency in FC. It should have gone away after the hijacking resolved. I'm 99% sure you don't have to do it in SC and it obviously doesn't apply to travel by airship.
>>541037916Hey idiot. If it's in the source materal then it's no problem, because that's the point. The issue here is injecting them when the source material has none of it. Learn to read.
IMA FIRIN MAH LASAH amirite fellow millennials?
Imagine defending this.
>>541037849I assume its the same people that did daybreak 2 thats working on horizon I hope they tone it down or be a bit better since we may not get fan translations in the future. I know there will still be bad stuff like feri saying edgelord in one of the horizon pictures. We will have to see if the localizer calms down
>>541037864anony just mad that he's not swin irl
>>541038167>Imagine defending thisI don't. I'm still at Esmelas Tower.
>>541038229you picked one of her normal lines lol.
why do you think the kiseki series is such a piece of shit
>>541037896Translation is communication.The most effective communication accurately translates the meaning of the original text in the way which is best understood by the most people.This post is objectively factual.
>>541038051I'd rather get a slang and meme I can understand, whether that be anime related or otherwise, than straight up a translation of Japanese phrase that sounds like a phrase no English speaker would use.
People are missing the point. Localizers should only take liberties when they absolutely have to. The problem is they take liberties even when the line can be perfectly translated properly without needing to change or add too much extra stuff.
>>541038357wrong and not factual. translation is getting my agenda across because I wasn't hired for more official translation jobs. I'm taking my anger out on you dumb weebs.
I feel like half the general don't know what the term "localization" actually means
>guy literally advocating for pic related and some retards clappingNever change
>>541038517The issue is that localization doesnt even have a single definition though. Different localizers have different methods and style of localizing. For example xseed sky and gungho sky are both "localizations" but they are so different. So thats why localizations have different debates and different interpretations of what it is no one knows the answer
>>541038309just admit that her rizz broke you
>>541038567This is fine. No one knows what that white shit he's holding is anyway. Sorry you don't understand how communication works.
>>541038661you literally picked another normal line LMAO your picking the decently translated ones.
>>541038723>>541038357 is not advocating for the pic in >>541038567>accurately translates the meaning of the original text
>>541038567this dude actually turned his frying pan into a drying pan. We need more intellectuals like Brock
Honestly he's right I had to look up half the words in the original FC. What the fuck even is a Reverie?
>>541038783im only posting the ones i screenshotted anon... and tbf, ive only finished act 1 of daybreak 2
>>541038490I am talking about Sky 1st and comparing that to Xseed's script. I don't think Xseed did anything excessive, most of the changes came to Estelle's repetitive catchphrase and they added chest messages.
>>541038909honestly daybreak 2 really depends if you like nadia and swin since they get a good amount of screen time together barring act 3. Weird they brough back the routes for daybreak 2 though. I guess the writers really like nadia and swin
>>541038908A dream. It's a french loanword.
>>541038930>I don't think Xseed did anything excessive>they added chest messagesBro?
>>541038909DB1 is fine, DB2 is iffy desu, i liked it but some anons here are super madWe'll see how Horizon holds up
>>541039038Just fucking say a dream then. Shit translation.
>>541038567The two sides are obviously the weebs who want the authentic japanese experience and the troons who only watches dubs and wants the japanese thing to be more westernized.
>>541038930estelles catchphrases being changed to something is not the only liberty they take. They take them in regular dialogue as well. Its an alrite localization but still takes a lot of liberties. Geofront is the type if localization that takes less liberties. CS3,CS4 are the same too. But games like daybreak 1 and 2 overdo it even changing character personalities like van,agnes,feri, and shizuna
>>541036404TRVTH NVKE
>>541039141Ironic weebs who got their asian-english 1st script hate it>You think you do, but you don't
If you play with jp voice you prefer gungho if you play english dub then you prefer xseed
>>541039032i liked nadia, swin, lapis, and C more than the sss... in reverie>>541039196how does van and shizuna's change?
>>541039392bwo the sss in reverie were a miserable shadow of their former selves.
>>541039392van is talks like a quirky redditor who loves memes and shizuna is the same issues as van. Yes shes playful that part is true but she still talks regularly with a hint of different word usage since in that universe shes from the far east
>>541039061Gave the game character. And made for a kino moment in Crossbell.
>>541039196I honestly think it's because of the looming threat of AI. AI translations are perceived as literal and boring, so the localizers double down on their overly animated lines to differentiate themselves.
Locs humor was great until CS4-Haji, but that comes more from the gradual global faggotification and retardation of the world as we know it so all fields got affected by it. The good times are never coming back...
Gonna be hard to choose but I got it all sorted out, little miffed I can't romance Duvalie though, she gives me Saber vibes
>>541039556they hasten my desire for the ai takeover.
>miffed>hastenSpeak English.
>>541039556so there doing something that makes fans want AI because they are afraid of AI? the world is a very ironic place
>>541039567Celine is the true canonical choice and nothing will ever convince me otherwise
>>541039567ALISABROS RISE UP
>>541039471yeaaa, that probably wasnt the best comparison, but i enjoy the dynamic of nadia's team>>541039498ah so it's more obvious that she's from the far east in the jp version? and less memey/on cocaine when she speaks?>>541039567sara or nothing
>>541039567who are your top 5 choices so far anon?
>>541039556Whether or not Falcom used AI for Sky 1st, remains to be seenBut eventually they will use it>AI translations are perceived as literal and boringIt doesn't have to be, desu, and that's the beauty of AIConsidering Gungho didn't even do the script themselves, there's a good chance what we have was AI'd in someway and Falcom are just keeping quiet
>>541039104How about you have the vocabulary of an 8th grader? No? Too hard?
>>541039696shes actually closer to rean than emma is. Then again the cs4 emma bonding events were spicy as fuck
>>541039829How about translators not use fancy words I have to look up?
>>541039821What's this trannyniggerslop doing here
>>541039196What liberties outside of that did Xseed take? Serious ones, not muh Emerald Tower is now Esmelas Tower
>>541039821Wrong IMAGE LOL XD
>>541039745yea but not just that shes from the far east but shes a lot more grounded like shes playful whimsical and fun but she still talks maturely its hard to explain. Like shes not like nadia or aaron who will say phrases and slang but the localization makes her do it
>does nothing>leaves
>>541040031My take is that she's a whimsical, playful ojou-sama. Not really any term for it in English.
>>541039556You're retarded. Shitty translators have been doing this shit for decades.
>>541039821English Localization: Acttil, Inc. ..... this is the company that did the localization gungho published it. So the question is did this localization company use AI then did human editing afterwards. Bases on the way the text is some are saying yes but theres no proof
Fully voiced english dub using jp voices AI patch for trails games?
Daily reminder that sub elitists are EOPs who don't understand a lick of actual Japanese but hear "ching chong watashi desu ne" and thinks it sounds cool.
>>541040236This but unironically
>>541040236it does sound cool though you just sound bitter that people have a preference lmao
>>541040135>>541040031i think i get what youre saying, ill try and see if i can look up some direct translations of her online but thanks anon. she's always come off as very kid-ish to me in the en translation, not much maturity at all
>>541039972They fluffed up everything, in all their games, we all know thisThere's a reason those Haha memes exist, the one word answers in Cold Steel JPThen you have EN Rean spouting off 10 sentences Did they make it better? YesBut are those massive liberties? Yes
>>541040343>Did they make it better?No.
>>541040343I asked for examples in Sky. Give them to me. I don't care about other arcs.
Hopefully they get rid of "Ultra Violence" in SC remake. It goes against the true authentic character of Estelle as depicted in JP
There is no good reason to use "haha" 1962 or 2282 times. Man, Trails writing really wee t to shit in Cold Steel.
>>541040981This. All the "haha"s should've been "fufu"s instead. Instant increase in the writing quality that way
it's MAAM
>>541041082dam u cao
>Estelle having a violent side is XSEED fanfi-https://youtu.be/t5mjcPxwF38?t=362
>>541039771Well like the image shows it's Juna, Altina, Alisa, Alfin, and Laura, aside from Crow and Ash their bonding events have been the ones I've enjoyed the most.Considering going with Laura because she pins Rean to the wall and makes out with him, that surprised me when it happened.
Gungho won. Get over it.We will take the things you love and destroy them.
>>541040736A bit of the old in-out with Bestelle!
>>541041082No man. This is a fucking JRPG not a fucking Gaki no Tsukai episode. Hell I bet in their time on air they don't have even a quarter of the laugh onomatopoeias Kiseki does.
>>541041384good choices
>>541041281Scene so rare even most Kiseki ultra fans haven't seen it because they just follow guides. You have beaten the game.
>>541041384>gonna pick the girl that rapes ReanHaha...
>>541039972The link doesnt work here but on google just search up if your interested Trails of Translation Episode 7: Xseed vs GungHo in Sky FC’s Prologuesomeone compares the gungho prologue with xseed prologue with a bit more bias towards xseed lol but you will see the difference in approach the two translations take
>>541041281so soulful.. i hate 1st remake
>>541041281Man...I miss seeing Estelle do this :D
>>541041281>posting a video using the original artwork
>>541041770>waaaah old good new bad, old good new badKys lmao
>>541042307>EVOfag still existingThe remake was supposed to finish all 2 of you off.
>>541042421
>>541040064>Fufu... wouldn't you like to know?
>literally just passing comments about kuro 2 in the intro>no any mentions of 2's events after the prolonged so fardoes kuro 2 really not matter at all...? even the events of kuro 1 get mentioned more often...
>>541041746>Laura being a yandere stalker that rapes Rean the moment she gets him alone in a caveSounds like a superb doujin/fanfic idea
>>541042919it gets more mentioned when they start talking about Sin and dingo and marielle when shes with the group and when they talk to hamilton. Other than that yea kuro 2 doesnt really have much. I mean feri and quatre bonding events relate to kuro 2 stuff so it does matter a fair amount
>>541043047get on it, femanons!
>>541043130>marielle when she's with the grouyeah that makes sense
>>541043141>bathing with a dozen other peopleI know that even the Romans and Greeks did it, but it's such an alien thing to me.
>>541043375Im making it vague to not tell you who shes with
>>541043141rean you lucky bastard. I hope budget zoa gilstein kicks your shit in kai 2
I found a chud
>>541041691Is this supposed to be a hidden scene or what?
>>541043558mixed baths in this day and age are wild to me. I can understand sharing a Jacuzzi despite how unsanitary it is, but just covering up in a little towel or going in naked to some hot springs? I don't think I could do it with other strangers around.
>>541043141I like how they went from getting mad at Rean for barging into the bath in CS2 to just accepting him as leader of their harem once they grew more mature.
>>541045619nta, but no, not reallyhe's just assuming that most people are following a guide telling them what to do for certain quests to not miss out on bracer pointschoosing the "correct" dialogue nets you extra BP and estelle convinces the guy to go just by talking to him
>>541044876Post Meifa and Felicity once you meet them.>>541045753Oh lol, guess that explains why I didn't get max BP in FC. I even found the hidden Professor Alba quest in Bose on my own.
>>541045706Horny ladies!
>>541045889wow what a whore...i need her, haha...
>>541045889she wants him
'ate kuso'ate cold shitSky helped me realise that i'm trans btw
How many Kiseki / Falcom games would you guys have in your 3x3
>>541047186what a peculiar diet you have
>>5410474083rdCSneed1CSneed3Ys8
>>541044876Chuds are not merchants, they hate the merchants and are misogynists.
>>541047408GuruminXanadu NextYs 1+2 Chronicles+ (with Complete's artwork and soundtrack)
>>541047408
>>541047408Ys OriginZeroNayutaZwei 2
>>541047186>insulting xer favorite arc kuso to falseflagVankid...
>>541047408I don't know about 3x3 but Oath is in my 5x5.
>>541046376>>541046429Love her>>541047408>Soul CaliberUh based
just finished kaiwhat a wild fucking rideinitial reaction: 6/10 game for the most part, but it becomes a 10/10 near the end
>>541047408Maybe one or two. Not sure desu
>>541048961It's inverse Kuro 2 which starts of good then gradually becomes shit, Kai starts of shit then gradually becomes good.
Ragecuck asshole status?
>fanfic anon actually is over at /m/ stillDamn... she's really not coming back huh?
Homebreaker got new art.
>>541040337Just play Kuro 2 with the English fan translation to u can use it for NISA daybreak 2 someone one stream made it a p3a file. NISA daybreak 2 is fanfiction they made up stuff and intentionally mistranslated it to insert their humor and what they think their version of the story should be
idk if ur weeb at all and watch anime you'd know shizuna is just a feisty princess archetype. the type that's always a handful for their family (duke/king/rich parents). think mushoku's Eris.
>>541035708>>541035917>>541035997Not just WotL but I've heard a lot of praise for LAL's medieval chapter for the same reason
>>541036496Oh hey look I can do this too>The FFT rewrite was excellent, because in the mind of most westerners Shakespearean translates to high drama in a European medieval context, it has that association and the localisation brings it up to give it that aura that elevates it above the original>Xstelle is just stupid, loud and obnoxious, HAHA LOOK SHE THREATENED TO BEAT SOMEONE UP AGAIN!!!!!11 XDDD
>>541053397The fact of the matter is that native English speakers like flavor in their translations. You can't really avoid it. I know it sucks for the ESLs and the like who just want to know exactly what's happening but there's nothing to be done about it.
The daybreak games have a far worse localization that xseed sky fc and sc
we heard you the first 500 times
>>541054214XSEED completely butchered Estelle like making her say that she hates Cassius.
>>541053750English speakers only like it because they play the English dub. If they didn’t then they would know how many changes localizers put into it. I am surprised that more knowledge about xseed localization taking liberties is happening before not many people knew about the changes
>>541054448Xseed fucked up a few characters but NISA fucked up 80 percent of the daybreak cast. They both are bad localizations though but daybreak 2 has more fanfiction and insert humor it reads like an abridged
Still buying Horizon no matter how much you doompost btw
>>541054525We like it because dry scripts are boring. XSEED's Sky could be eye rolling at times but Gungho's Sky is the worst English Kiseki script barring the original CS3 where NISA didn't know all of the lore yet and made mistakes in that direction. Honestly if 1st's translation was what we got for FC I don't know if Kiseki would have ever caught on in the west.
>>541053750Also, I would literally consider Shakespeare-ifying the text to be less of an offense than XSEEDismsIf you get the overall message right, it's still different from turning "What did you say?" to "I'M GOING TO BEAT YOU UP WITH MY STICK AREN'T I QUIRKY???"
>>541054852Kiseki got caught on in the west because of cs1 and sky the first not because of sky fc
>>541054852Try playing daybreak 1 and 2 localization with jp voice you won’t be able to.
>>541054852You're rightA lot of people shilled on how much love and care went into the localization (Considering they updated it multiple times from PSP > PC release)That was THE thing people shilled when shilling the games>>541054973Caught on sure, but WoM with Sky (and there was a lot of it) was fucking massiveWe're also talking about how FC was one of the first JRPGs on Steam back in the day too, that bitch was also free on humblebundle one timeCold Steel maybe pushed it somewhat into the main stream, but FC truly had one of the best communities back then
>>541054973FC did really well on PC. It was because of the second chance that the successful Ys ports granted Kiseki that FC was allowed to be put on PC which then saved Kiseki once everyone could play FC.
XSEED won. Get over it.
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Games are no longer about games it’s about your side winning
>>541055609I don't need to win, i just need to see kurokeks lose
>>541055683You already lost.
Games were always about winning
>>541055253The Xseed versions flopped on release. Xseed only continued because they already announced prior that they'd do the whole trilogy. Xseeds SC did much better. The originals in Japan didn't kick off until the PSP ports.
>>541055845We forgot this lesson along the way.
I love how Dantes literally was given multiple reasons to be an interesting villain and then he rejects them all and goes "my real motivation is MUH FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER"
>>541057335Dante’s probably wanted to use the vagrants system in Kuro 1 had he killed Van but I don’t know if it’s exclusive to Van or it’s to anyone that has the core with Van dead or not
>>541057335And yet he still managed to be a far more interesting and ACTUAL villain than all the dindu """"""""""antagonists""""""""" in Cold Shit LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Even with all the mismanagement and garbage in Kuro II an Kai, Daybreak I alone propels the entire arc leagues above the trash heaps Cold Shitters have brung. and that's FACTS to anybody isn't a blindly retarded, homosexual cock-gobbling beaner Reanspic
>>541058568Are all vankids this autistic?
>Series is so old the devs had to remake the first game just so newfags could actually start it.>Finished FC. It was amazing. Anything I can play while waiting for SC to drop?>No. Do not start anything else. Save yourself for SC. Protect the spoilers. Protect the kino.>But if there aren’t any major spoilers, maybe there are some—>Dev: This remake is the perfect entry point into the series—>No. SC is peak Trails. Nothing else is worth touching.Why are Falcombros like this?
whos the lad above me quotin?
>>541017401Should I play the GoG/Steam version of CS4? How's the translation of the retail version? CS3 script felt really, really dry and scuffed compared to CS4. Is There any fan translation/patch that fixes this?Also, did they increase the price of the older games? Cause CS4 was way cheaper last year, but this summer sale and this autumm sale price was higher than the discounted value of those same sales in the last year
Just started Lloyd's game, I am honestly caught off guard with the voice acting and it does feel overall more polished than the skies games, anything I should watch out for? SC really caught me off guard with how brutal it was with the points and bracer rankings
>>541058638Found the gay Rean-spic. Your days are numbered faggot. Trump and the Supreme-court will soon outlaw your ""kind"" and you will be back into the closet lest you get stoned like it used to be in the good ol days. Sky 1st being the absolute gem it has been fills me with hope that Falcom will finally return to their roots of what made their games so beloved and ditch the Cold Slop influence that turned their modern games into complete garbage. Inshallah a glory age is soon upon us.
>541058568embarrassing
>Be American leftist white person>Hate yourself as many of them do>Daybreak hates you too>love Daybreak because it hates you like you hate yourself
didn't take long for the same old boring melties to start up 24/7 again huh
>>541035708>goes to reddit>muh westYou're a brown redditor.
>>541020691nah that's you
>>541059039Vankids really have to continually convince themselves some great reckoning is perennially 2 weeks away and it will fix all their problems and get rid of all their enemies But nothing ever happens because their grand delusions are just that, delusions LOL
>>541059039No Trump supporter likes Kuso.
A decade later and he still owns the fractured unhinged minds of his haters.He is too powerful.His name? Rean Schwarzer. The Face of Kiseki.
>>541057335He's a shitty version of something DC already did decades ago. Cool sword, though.
>>541058916The translation is "fine" from what I remember. Reverie is where it becomes more noticeable. And yes Nisa did increase them. Maybe buy a physical copy if that's on sale.
>>541060594lol lmao
>>541061032This is what happens when you make games about Fra*ce
>>541061032Reanbros, he was supposed to save Kai...
>>541061032>make brown people good game>make ai bad gamedamn.. falcom do be telling the future doe
>>541061183Not even he can save a sinking ship. Even Kevin nostalgia couldn't do it. Nothing can save Calvard, it seems....
>>541061032>Fractured Vankid attacks his own arc LOL
>>541058993>SC really caught me off guard with how brutal it was with the points and bracer rankingsThe Crossbell games aren't much better in this, particularly when it comes to unwinnable boss battles or "hidden" quests that're borderline impossible to find without a guide.Very good games though, and very nice OST. You'll just have to get used to Crossbell first, haha..
love renny
Gross hag.....
>>541038308don't you mean jade tower?
That's fanfic
>>541061032The Calvard effect.......
i have never heard anything good about falcom as a company. Only that they are cheapskates, underpay their workers, scam people left and right, that they are plagiarists and so on.
Why is sieg now fat wtf
>>541059039>Skytroon is also a magatardExplains why this shit general ends up arcwarring everytime a low IQ wh*toid shitter Skyfag shows up
>>541067406I think everyone across the political spectrum hates reanfags
>>541067406Rean haters will latch on to whatever snake oil salesman promises to fix their lives because they are too lazy and pathetic to fix it themselves I mean these people think dedicating their entire lives to starting beef with a video game character is a smart and worthy use of their time LOL
Let's kidnap Estelle and shave her head so she looks like an anime egg, LOL.
>>541068265Don't make me wedge your ass Luke
>daybreak 1>3460 psn ratings>sky 1 st>3461 psn ratingsWhat do we do now, Vanbros?
