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Arcanum Edition

>What is /crpgg/?
This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer role playing games such as:
Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Necromancer's Tale, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Solasta: Crown of the Magister, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, UnderRail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.

>Recommendations:
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>Computer Role Playing Games Resources:
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>Thread Question
Thoughts on Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura?
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How is this edition and thread question related to owlcat or larian?
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>>541026437
>thread question
Very cool setting and some great ideas but too unpolished and buggy for me to really enjoy. The dungeons and combat are terrible. The ui and qol is somehow worse than the old fallouts.
I hate people clamoring for remakes/remasters all the time but this game could really do with one
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>>541026437
>Thoughts on Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura?
We need more steampunk games with magic. I recently did a playthrough as a full armored gun wizard and it was the most fun shit ever.
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Y****t
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>>541026820
You had 50 posts to bake
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>>541027827
I'm too shy ;_;
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>>541027792
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Is it worth picking up power attack if I'm not planning on grabbing any of the cleave feats?
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>>541026820
There's a female elf on the cover, all female elves must kiss my dolly!!!
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>>541030079
Now this is Role Playing
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>>541029747
Yes.
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uhhh abelard???
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>>541029747
yeah but maybe not right away. i'd only grab it right away if i 1. had sky high AB, or 2. wanted cleaving finish
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>>541031985
>Controller
why
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>>541032719
it's cold so i'm in my bed bundled up in blankets, reading books and playing some rt on and off
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>>541026437
No one ever talks about Ulfar. He does pretty good damage per turn and is very hard to kill. He also makes cool sounds in combat.
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I lost interest in Baldur's Gate 3 after the first act
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>>541033513
argenta has the same kit and can fit up stairs
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>>541033586
I just can't enjoy it because its loosely connected to the previous bg games while very obviously not being a spiritual sequel to them. I wish larian just made their own WoTC DnD game under a different name but baldurs gate has name recognition so WoTC made them use that.
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>>541033792
>wotc made them
did you simply make that up out of thin air
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>>541033693
I bring both. Argenta does more damage but Ulfar has better survivability (I increased enemy damage slider to max which lets them often 1 shot anyone else) and makes cooler sounds in battle.
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>>541033586
pretty pathetic desu
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>>541028501
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>>541033586
Same. The thought of going through act 2 and 3 again stops me from wanting to replay at all. Shame because I think act 1 was quite good though I also agree with this >>541033792

Forgotten Realms: Cool Subtitle would have been better and just skip the Bhaalspawn stuff altogether. Still could have some callbacks and I bet old fans would have taken to it better too since it wouldn't be such an offensively cheap marketing ploy
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why are you removing the report waifus part for the op?
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>>541033905
No. Paizo made him post it.
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Forgotten Realms: Illithid Encounterth
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Are we lying about the BG3 plot not being yet another Bhaal keikaku so we don't spoil people?
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>>541028501
Neat, if you make her wear Druk shit she takes off the chin armor (what a chinslut)
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>>541034726
>WW1 pattern ammo pouches
So this is the great and advanced Aeldari race
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>>541033513
He can barely move around most maps
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>>541035218
you can't adventure with/sex orin so it isn't a true successor
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>>541036386
People keep saying that but I've never had an issue with it yet. He has very high MP and can move after attacking
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Any need-to-have mods?
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>>541038603
friends irl
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who else i high af right now? im finally getting around to the solasta 2 demo.
>>541036386
just give him those boots the that can give you mp when you attack or the ones that give Mp on a kill.
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>>541033513
I dislike him because he's a complainer
>boo hoo I'm fated to not die honorably in battle
Bitch, you chose this life. You chose to get pozzed by the geneseed, with all that entails. So don't come whining now that it's not all mead and glorious victories with your battle buddies.
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>>541038603
No?
Play SOU+HoTU and then play whatever player created modules you find interesting.
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>Invited you to have literal public sex

I don't know, maybe the Cammie fags have a point after all
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>temple of elemental evil, solasta 2 and dark heresy all got delayed
Wtf am I supposed to play now?
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>>541041396
Jagged Alliance 3 or Wasteland 3, unless you're in Australia, it's banned there
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>>541042316
? No its not
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>>541034726
Wife. I love her so much anons...
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>>541042916
What I'm reading is there's a censored version
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>>541042957
You're number 437 in the waiting line
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>>541040934
Cammers is so perfect holy shit
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>>541033513
he's a big murine.
his size messes with his dashes, it really annoyed me.
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We will get a rift stalker as the space marine companion in dark heresy.
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>>541026437
>Thoughts on Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura?
realtime with slop. Magic makes a technology build obsolete by the way, so it's more like Arcanum: Of Magic and Magic Obscura
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>>541033513
That's cause he's pretty boring as far as comapnions go and also not a waifu, so you can't discuss hims as either a character or a coomtarget
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>>541041396
i was under the impression solasta 2 wasn't gonna be anytime soon anyway. unless now they're on strike or something idk euro devs do that kinda thing.
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>>541047881
The EA was supposed to come out at the end of 2025 but everything got pushed back because apparently they are behind.
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>>541047352
>his size messes with his dashes
THIS
That fatass could never dash anywhere
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Space marines should be able to dash through/knock down units
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>>541033513
He's fine but I really couldn't care less about muhreens.
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>>541045602
Sharing is caring anon
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>>541033513
>cool sounds
>I HAVE BECOME THE ALLFATHER'S WORTHY INSTRUMENT
if you think this is cool you are either 14 or you have shit taste. Also he's voiced by a tranny.
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>>541049476
I like
>DIE IN DISGRACE
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>>541033513
He is not the best, nor the worst.
We could have had far worse space marine charters or Space Wolf specimens, but I doubt he was the number 1 option for many.
Stat improvements and new equipment options means he is far more useful now and he is the only one who can be retarded with both melee and ranged weapons(not just switching with stacks), but he is still a fatass who can get stuck.

>SEE HOW THE WOLF SUCCEEDS
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The space marine companion that joins us in dark heresy should depend on our alignment. For example if your super puritan you get a Black Templar marine
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>>541050491
So what do you get if you are
>radical
>heretic
>middle in all metrics
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>>541050629
>Radical
Star Phantoms
>heratic
night lords are already in the game
>middle of the road
Blood angels
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>>541050892
>Star Phantoms
What the fuck is that
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>>541051178
The Space marines version of the Cia that does covert manipulation ops.
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>>541049476
You're not going to enjoy anything 40k if you're too ashamed of sincerity to enjoy juvenile bullshit.
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black gayser
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>>541051857
Is the expansion ever coming out?
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>>541052190
22nd this month apparently
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>>541047352
It bugs out and traps your companions on round start sometimes so you don't get to position. He also has zero dialogue.
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>>541051504
Ive been playing with my plastic toy soldiers probably before you were born. I can just tell cringe when I see it.
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>Aett Farter you have to let me have the killing blow on the Horrendous Contraption
Ulfar this isn't a fucking game
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>>541053356
>one shot the hellbrute with my RT
>Ulfar takes all the credit
Stolen valour.
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Why do all the art pop ups in knights of the chalice 2 look like those early 2000's fantasy porn game ads? Other than that it's a pretty fun game.
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>>541053809
lore wise CHADfar solos your entire retinue.
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>>541053902
Meanwhile, in the real world, Ulfurry depends on Abelard to save his ass from predicament after predicament
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>>541053817
That game seems insanely expensive for a game that looks like that
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>>541053902
Lorewise Marazhai can take him on a good day (if half-naked arena wyches can take out smeens, so can a well equipped nepobaby), Pasqal might, and Cassia can instakill him if he looks in her eye
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>>541033513
the moment I first heard his lip smacking and growling into the mic was the moment I decided I would literally never interact with Ulfar again
I don't even remember he exists until someone brings him up
I sure can't wait until all the dialogue is voiced and they waste 20GBs on dramatic pauses and MOUTH SOUNDS
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>>541053902
The "lore" was written with zero regard for tabletop rules, internal consistency or common sense. I doubt the space marine wank books are canon for the Rogue Trader setting.
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Ulfar could kick your ass, little man
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Owlcat should just make their own setting and system, every system they adapt becomes a stat bloated mess and they always make what setting they are adapting ten times grander in scale. they clearly have a vision of a big setting with a huge complex system they want to make.
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>>541055804
imagine being btfo preemptively by your own username
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There are stories written of necrons and tau and deldar killing dozens of marines, and there are also stories written of single marines routing entire armies, or a small squad destroying entire invasion forces. The capabilities of marines varies by the current story's plot requirements.

There are directly conflicting stories as well. We've seen marines die to one bullet before, but we also have physiology books talking about how they have two hearts that restart each other and how their bones are made of adamantine and all this crazy stuff that makes the prior example not make sense. The bottom line is that there are a ton of directly conflicting marine powerlevels. Sometimes they can run through walls and punch necron lords to death (happened in a canon BL novel) while other times they are downed by one single stubber round to the head (also happened in canon movie). So all discussions of marine power level are pretty moot, since it varies, and GW has always just shrugged and said it's all canon.

However, I think that the physiology pages from the codecies and main rulebook would take precedent, since they are not battlefield stories that can be exaggerated by an unreliable narrator, they are author descriptions of what makes a marine, so they're not subject to unreliable narrator. And in these, they describe the ability to spit acid, lift cars, punch through concrete, redundant hearts, go long times without eating or breathing, have literal targeting computers in their brains, and such things. So they have some insane capabilities straight from the out-of-universe descriptions, so I tend to weigh in on the side of marinewank and marines being insane killing machines whenever this discussion comes up.

So yes, a marine could most likely kill the RT and their cronies. He's faster than them, tougher than them, stronger than them, and has various physical and mental upgrades they don't have.
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>>541055940
>image
WOW racist much??
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blah blah blah gooder guys win as the lore demands
thanks genius
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>>541055940
Turn based means that a marine just has to stand there and take it until it's his turn, negating their advantages.
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Turn based > RTwP
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Turn based is a crutch for poor players.
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>>541055940
Just pick and choose whatever you think is cool. I refuse to acknowlege the Heresy books retconning how Ferrus died.
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Turn BASED
Real tshit with poop
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why does having to press spacebar confuse and enrage the zoomer?
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>>541055940
>I think the source that most praises Spess Mahrines (my favorite faction) should take precedence
Somehow I am not surprised.
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Rtwp doesnt work with dnd derivatives because dnd was designed as a turn based game.
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No, I will not engage with your bait even if you put a period at the end to indicate confidence
You're no longer 20, grow up
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>>541056572
Everyone acting all at once is chaotic and upsetting. It's also unrealistic.
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>>541056717
yes, its called double think, its not a very difficult concept to comprehend, you mostly likely deal with it on a daily basis
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Power scaling
The shard>the joker elves>the space marines>=maybe your rogue trader if he is a psyker>everyone else
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>>541056829
Abelard killed The Shard by kicking it
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>>541056772
based assassin's creed dev
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How would commander Shepard fare in the world of 40k
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>>541056996
He would have been able to bang Yrilet for one thing.
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>what if elves acted like the joker?
Seriously what's is the point of these guys?
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>>541056717
Nope, I play agents, sob, guard, and celdar. So you'll have to actually engage with the material and think for yourself instead of just assuming something about the speaker and throwing out a low effort ad hom fallacy.

The descriptions the setting's main authors (main rulebook) give for the physical capabilities of marines and the process of becoming a marine entails means that the fantastical stories of marine's capabilities are more likely true compared to the ones where they die in droves to establish some "serious" threat.

At the end of the day, whether we like it or not, marinewank is core to 40k's identity and always has been. They outsell all the other armies combined, and they also outsell all of fantasy and AoS combined as well, so it's simple.
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>>541056996
eaten by their earth gang
executed for insubordination
executed for suspiciously surviving xeno encounters and tech multiple times
executed for loyalty to blue buttcheeks
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>>541056996
generic Astra Militarum Commander level
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>>541057054
He would have had his choice between Yrliet and Argenta depending on his Renegade/Paragon alignment
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>>541057142
Surely with all the cybernetics they're spees muhreen level.
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>>541056996
die to the first orc
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>>541057312
>only cyberneticly enhanced
Jae level
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>>541057097
>The descriptions the setting's main authors (main rulebook)
Don't you mean the main fluffbook? It probably has some rules written in it as well, but if you have to ignore those or you won't have much of an argument.
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Do you anons think that Season 2 of RT will sell based on premise and assuming the companions are decent picks? And that Owlcat does a Season 3? They said it's not off the table on a stream and in an interview if S2 sells well and team has will to make more. Any hopes to what we might realistically see in the final Season?
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>>541034961
damn. if only owlcat wasn't getting pushed around by these other companies
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>>541059761
I think it will sell decently if they put in request companions like an Ork and/or Tau. Plus Trazyn is a popular character. I think they will do a third Season, but there won't be companions, most likely a story DLC that features an endless dungeon and then a wrap up DLC like Dance of Masks since that was popular.
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>>541059761
I'd rather they weren't bringing in yet more companions. Too much dilution.
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>>541038603
mods don't help. nwn/2 are the worst big name crpgs. the people who praise it usually use it for custom games.
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>>541057312
Even dismissing the lore about superhuman dread and going off the average portrayal there's a whole lot that goes into a Space Marine that elevates them way above all but the most insanely cybernetically enhanced humans.
Lazarus Project on the other hand was 99% bringing back Shepard's half-rotten dead body and by itself is a technological miracle that Imperium isn't really capable of but it doesn't really make Shepard significantly more powerful.
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What the fuck is this VIsitors from Morta DLC? Golarion is enough of a kitchen sink without doing crossovers. Next they'll have a non-easter egg Tardis show up.
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>>541061250
You'll appreciate it when you see how bullshit the cape is.
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>>541060138
I think for season 2 it's fine if they are xenos, since that's what was missing in a Rogue Trader game and ehat people wanted. Realistically most people only experienced Yrliet, since a lot of people killed Marazhai either outright or after he caused trouble in first Warp Jump event.
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>>541061987
I hope we get space orangutan
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Any site that has all the gear in RT listed? I swear fextra is missing some and I'm trying to plan builds.
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>>541062158
>planning builds
>in RT
But the game is already braindead easy on unfair.
Whether you kill the enemy in 1 attack or 2 doesn't matter. You're going to win every encounter regardless.
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I like how Argenta's late-game explosive bolter is strictly useless because enemies are never bunched up that way at that stage, but your own people are
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>>541063418
The same can be said for most games which is why I plan for style, not efficacy. Can't do that without seeing gear tho.
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Why all the 40slop spam again suddenly
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>>541064692
because I just started playing and am asking stuff
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>>541057056
They came here to laugh at you
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>>541031985
>Yrliet and Le FatBastard
>Le FatBastard and Yrliet
>Do...do you feel the same?
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Agentas womb is sacred
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>>541066173
and my seed is her Eucharist
fuck owlcat for denying us grace
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>>541065825
Fat Bastard belongs to Jae like Crime Lord does to Cassia
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The tubes are data cables magnetically attached to sub-cranial augmentations
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>>541057056
all of their gods got eaten by slaanesh except the god of clowns
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>>541067371
Just as Artificial Intelligence was the cause of the Fall of Man, so was being horrible degenerate sex perverts the cause of the Fall of the Eldar
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>>541057056
to seduce femcels
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>>541055940
melta gg
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Eldar were made by the Old Ones using prehistoric humans as raw material
, who gave them all their gods.
But the Old Ones are some sort of frog people who don't really value sex, so they never thought to give the Eldar a sex god.
So the Eldar had to make one of their own.
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>>541067693
>prehistoric humans
>65 million years ago
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>>541067838
Sounds prehistoric to me.
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holy fuck argenta loves the emperor a lot
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>>541068123
Meanwhile the Emperor has hardly even heard of Argenta
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>>541067371
Khaine didn't get eaten but he did get shattered and Isha got kidnapped by Nurgle. Khaine was actually pretty based and refused to run unlike the rest of his fodder kin. Instead he fought Slaanesh evenly for a bit but the lack of remaining Eldar had weakened him substantially. Slaanesh was gonna devour him but Khorne showed up, he picked Khaine up like it was WWE and slammed him onto Slaanesh so hard he shattered into tiny pieces.
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>sex with argenta
>she's thinking about the emperor the whole time
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>>541068306
Nurgle has a crush on Isha so he keeps her in a cage on his estate, and has her taste all of his new diseases before he releases them.
The eldar sent a squad of warriors to rescue her once and they made some progress but got eaten by carnivorous plants.
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I'm almost 100% sure it doesn't, but just to ask, exposing yourself to Nenio doesn't fuck with any romances right? I obviously had to pick that option, but you know how owlcat games are.
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>>541069435
it's over bro. wendy is disgusted, galfrey is disappointed, and cam will look at you like walking garbage.
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>>541068294
not true. the omnissiah knows all, comprehends all.
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>>541069523
You forgot Arue.
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>>541068361
Not in a sexual manner because that would be blasphemy, but yes she would be thinking about how thankful she is for Him giving her life and the opportunity to find love and happiness. Every moment of every day is a gift from him, literally, so you should be constantly thinking of him and how you can repay him for your life.
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>>541069591
I mean she fucks anything so whatever.
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>>541069591
the succubus doesn't care about sex stuff you do with others. obviously
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Do they actually believe that the Emperor gave them the gift of life
I mean aren't that aware in general terms that there was a time before the emperor



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