sloppa edition>Demo DaysNext: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-65Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA>AGDG resourceshttps://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw>Helpful linksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverterhttps://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam>Previous thread>>540965151
This general needs to be permabanned off the board at this point
Is using AI voice acting permissible for a modern game yet?
deadwire didn't do so well bros
>>541057447collab idea: we buy a plot of of land for cheap in saudi arabia and start a studio, we get financing and infinite electricity from the desertthen we bring the strongest agdg minds (fygoon, cris, bosci troon, grassfag, freakazoid who repeat what you said in greentext, pogodev, osur, peripeteaidev, kannadev, bokudev, etc) and make the game that btfo the industry
>>541057589Not my problem
>>541057606no
>>541057762ok well i guess the collab is cancelled(again)...
I'm locking in for real this time. This will be my month I just know it.
>dev responds to negative review
Is EU morning/early afternoon the best timezone for agdg threads due to schizo thread shitter amerimutts being asleep?
>>541058365Why do you think I wouldn't be awake at 4:47am?
>>541058365aka jobless euro loser hours
https://youtu.be/GNo_BZIWIdg
>>541056014Believe it or not, we have enough players and fans (some a bit too eager) that we don’t need to make threads ourselves. I’ve got enough on my plate managing the game.I did want to do an official peri /v/ thread and give out keys, but the schizo activity made me vow never to touch that board. You can DM me if you want a key.I won’t respond to these claims again, but thanks for letting me clarify.>>541056180I still gotta attempt making an irc, since discord as a platform is getting more unbearable by the day>>541056602I'll answer the question as tho you're seeking advice on marketing, hopefully the long winded post will help someone.it took a month to send keys to anyone likely to play/review the game, from local and international gaming media to small and medium tubers and streamers. The best approach here is to not send emails randomly but select people that would be actually interested in your game, especially those that already follow your socials. It was a good few hundred prerelease keys, steam is fine just giving them to you.If a creator has other means of contact than email (like twatter dms or discord), I found using them more personal, generally taking the time to talk and showing respect (like knowing their content) is very important. Some will ignore you, some will turn out great.One thing that happens in that time is a torrent of scammers pretending to be larger tubers. I found it fun to respond to them with bad rats keys (don't buy peri on kinguin) but some of those impersonated were good candidates to send an actual key.Didn't buy ads, literally couldn't afford them. Turns out you don't really need them. You just need to consistently post on the aforementioned socials for years. We had success on twatter but others do better on instagram or tiktok, as disgusting as the prospect is.Bundling up with other devs was very successful too, other yesdevs are usually bros about it and I recommend other aggydaggers do it too.
>>541058656>Believe it or not, we have enough players and fans (some a bit too eager) that we don’t need to make threads ourselves.NTA. So you paid people to post on /v/, or you did actually make those threads, given how active you are on 4chan. I see. Just like Trainwiz spamming Underspace in /indie/ (while pretending not to be himself), and being very active on 4chan.
>>541058656>generally taking the time to talk and showing respect (like knowing their content) is very importantgod damn I hate networking
What if I release my first game for free on steam? Will that get my name some deserved popularity?
>>541059173I don't know but I'd be interesting in hearing how it pans out
>>541059173Steam doesn't typically earn money from free games, it only costs them money, so they probably will not show your game to anyone, thus making it less visible and less played. Just guessing here, however.
>we have enough players and fans (some a bit too eager) that we don’t need to make threads ourselves.Very convenient excuse for samefagging and shilling on /v/.Yes, you're active on 4chan every day but you're totally not spamming /v/ with blatant advertising threads. Nope.
>>541059173No. Gamedevs are not celebrities. No one gives a fuck who makes the game. Only that the game is fun or not.
>>541059173no, this strategy doesn't workit can give you insight into if people like the general type of game or not, but it won't give you enough popularity to help your next gameevery game is its own unique eventthis developer released a free game to test the response for an idea, it performed well, and then released a bigger paid version, but the paid version still needed lots of promotion to reach its level of successhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2905170/Magic_Archery/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3372980/Tower_Wizard/
>>541059280I will be a celebrity because I'm the only one in the business who can make games like the ones I make
>>541059258You're not here on 4chan every day?What are you, a casual?
Shodanon actually bought boughting boughted my game but he didn't like it, and told his discord to sabotage it...
>>541059518You too?
>>541059280Obviously I meant it as a publisher. And some devs are more well known than others, depends on how unique their style is.
>>541058656This smells like a cover story post.>>541059032Showing respect is fine, though it might well have been way more than just keys. Game developers giving away less obvious tools, methods and approaches, that work well, to competitors, like here on /agdg/, is not necessarily done that often.Remember Trainwiz playing innocent regarding the major streamers and video makers that covered his game.Some of it is understandable, like streamers also want to be able to pay bills and turn a profit. But a lot of streaming, content creation, and "organic" social media manipulation, is ridiculously manipulative and tends on average to be hostile towards players and customers. It varies a lot how bad it is, however. For instance, kick.com is ridiculously wicked, with directly trying to turn people into real-money gambling addicts, and allowing abusive practices that led a streamer to die on stream due to self-abuse to garner more views and donations.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxpepn5qlxo>Video platform Kick investigated over streamer's death - BBCA lot of what Trainwiz and Ninth Exodus is about is upholding masquerades, and not being the most virtuous in that masquerade either, though probably not the least virtuous either, there are probably way, way worse than them.
>>541059574No one is going to give a fuck about your shitty free game. You are not a major studio. Stop spending so much time on the fringes of the internet. Spend more time developing your own skills, and just like make game.
>>541059948>No one is going to give a fuck about your shitty free game. You are not a major studio. Stop spending so much time on the fringes of the internet. Spend more time developing your own skills, and just like make game.
where is my blud CHADgoon? havent seen him post in a while is he back in school or what
>>541060183fuck up
>>5410598944chan is also somewhat of an industry against both lurkers and posters, and /v/ and /vg/ almost certainly have a bunch of paid, employed people, some of them janitors and moderators, some of them even with political aims, to manipulate and direct the general direction of things and keep people playing and paying. Valve and major game companies probably pay certain marketing companies to direct things here.Why waste time here then? Well, for whatever reason, the West doesn't censor 4chan, while it does censor certain other websites. One data point.
>>541060205watch yo tone
>>541059894>This smells like a cover story post.That's because it is.
All the nodevs have fragile egos and are probably narsistic which is also the reason for them being here. Their only goal is to shoo away any real yesdevs.
oh man (laughing) oh dude (laughing) sometimes i forget underspace actuayll released and flopped oh hahahahahahahah (laughs) do you remember how hyped up it was by 'cord? this jobby is ruthless
>>541059894The manipulation is not nearly as blatant as on Reddit, where a mixture of manipulative business practices and political USA-party goals can be really overt. For instance, incidentally including a few times in posts writing about a sore spot (like a major scandal for a huge company) on the wrong, very popular subreddits, and shills will directly ask you why you are posting so much about that topic, and begin to direct downvote brigades/bots at you, like barely pretending to not be paid. 4chan is allowed to be way more free, but data mining and toxic practices on 4chan makes the price of admission closer to mental attacks of various kinds, and 4chan is also smaller, and 4chan is not generally socially accepted, possibly causing further penalties on anyone here. Thus, still a winning strategy for some to let people onto 4chan.It can be a losing strategy in the long run, at least for some, and possibly for everyone. WW3 will probably be very bad for the human species as a whole, and possibly threaten extinction.
>>541060468It has not gone out of EA yet, and it could have fared better, could have fared worse.
hey peridev if you are still here, any insights into your texture worklow? i know its mostly photos + project from view but I'm also interested in the characters too
>>541061756suck my schlong
>>541058365the thread literally goes to shit the moment the sun rises over g*rmany and fr*nce
>>541059518Shodanon ruined my life...
>>541061756open blender, tilt your monitor so that it faces upwards and take a giant shit on it
damn you guys are cunts no wonder you let schizos hijack the thread every day
At this point the only posts worth reading here are the ones that have anime girls attached to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HulO5oR4SaUMade a bunch of huge improvements to my crime sandbox Pixurbia and added a military base on the map you can raid or sneak into
https://www.instagram.com/p/DPLe0HKDKDx/?igsh=MTdybmsweGZhaWhyaQ==Indonesia is the first ever country to make Columbia from bioshock infinite into reality
ive been lurking agdg for like 8 years at this point. perhaps this will be the year that I actually make a game
Enough procrastination. My plan has been solidified. It's time to focus. Work hard. The break is over. I am recovered. Sprint. Now.
>>541057514Honestly just do whatever you want, most people probably don't notice anything same way a non-musician doesn't notice small mistakes in music or something. Eventually games are gonna be full blown carried by AI NPC's that you physically talk to and persuade and shit, AI generated everything is on the horizon and the technophobes are just shooting themselves in the foot by not making use of the technology.
I work at the Innsbruck Research Center of Neurodivergence and Pathology (Innsbruck Forschungszentrum für Neurodivergenz und Pathologie). I've been monitoring this "general" for 5 months as part of our research on pathological behaviour on the internet.Here's what I found.- Over 98.9% of users here are pathological. Common retardations are oligophrenia, severe mental development deficiency, and social isolation.- Only 0.25% of users are neurodivergent.- Overwhelming majority of users are incapable of such things like basic logic, basic socialisation, and struggle with cause and effect. In conclusion, my findings reveal a concerning prevalence of pathological behaviors among users in this online environment. With over 98.9% of individuals exhibiting characteristics associated with significant cognitive and social impairments, it is evident that this platform enables various issues for the mental health and social interaction of its users. The stark contrast with the mere 0.25% of neurodivergent individuals further emphasizes the problematic nature of this platform towards cognitive profiles of its users. There's an urgent need for targeted interventions to address such pervasive dysfunction.
agdg just seems to be wasting time generally except for the demo days where we get real feedback. So is this it? No other community on gamedev on the internet where people learn together? It's all just shitposts, pedoposts, whining etc.
>game isn't even close to being finished yet>~60% done>already obsessing over the advertising campaigni need to work on my game. what am i doing? why am i already planning out my advertisements and promotional content?
>leave to make pong as told>come back in a week>threads are somehow even worseThanks for giving me motivation to not waste time lurking here, I guess.I'm off to upgrading my Pong to Arkanoid with screen shake and effects and shit, later faggots.
>>541063442Lock in nigga
Why do nodevs keep bragging about not using /agdg/?
>>541058656>Believe it or not, we have enough players and fans (some a bit too eager) that we don’t need to make threads ourselves.The least you could do is shut the fuck up and play it cool instead of lying through your teeth and leading the starving neets to their death, just to protect your image while attention whoring in the game programming special needs kindergarten.You've always been a disgusting slimy fuck but you're approaching critical mass now. Get on my nerves any more and I'll jog my memory a bit and dig up some things you'd much rather stay buried.
viral marketing just works
>>541064192>and I'll jog my memory a bit and dig up some things you'd much rather stay buried.May I see it?
>>541063215>wasting time generally except for the demo daysin what universe is diverting your time and attention to cleanly slicing off a demo every couple weeks not a pure waste of time
>>541064192If I have to be frank; there is no real reason to shill here and wouldn't be. It's just not the place it used to be,
>what if adam jense but slap tranime gurl head on!Damn, is this the best /agdg/ can come up with?
>>541064640/agdg/ has come up with much better but you ignored all of it like the tranny you are
>>541064720>/agdg/ has come up with much betterOh yeah? Do post, Shodanon.
>>541064192>Get on my nerves any more and I'll jog my memory a bit and dig up some things you'd much rather stay buried.i laughed so fucking hardi bet you think you're edgy and mysterious too
fuckinglock in brosyour competition is working harder than youoperating more intelligently than youliving more wisely than youyou are destined to be left in the dustremembered as a failuretake this shit seriouslyit may be your only chance
>>541064192Do it nigger
>>541064556>>541064837>>541064881Troonser samefag
>>541064869>your competition is working harder than you>operating more intelligently than you>living more wisely than youno they aren't lol
>>541064881>>541064837Let em, it's just bs. I'm the other peridev and this guy has been falseflagging/gay-opping for months. He makes fake caps a lot, btw. For example; he keeps claiming in threads that shod has done x y or z "on the discord", never posts caps. It is what it is, I just hope his game succeeds if he ever makes one.
>>541064640according to OP, best it could come up with is taking a 2007 flash bartending game and slapping tranime gurls on it, so don't expect any better
What do I add to my Rimworld clone to make it unique? It just feels like a shitty rip-off.
>>541065050
>>541065150Who's to say your discord screencaps aren't fake? Also, discord drama? Fucking really?
>>541065181have you tried making it good?
>>541065309I... I can't believe I didn't think of that before.
>>541065251Sadly, yes, it got brought down to that level. The cap is the guy who keeps saying we shit on other devs/do x y or z. It's stupid and I hate it.
>I just hope his game succeeds if he ever makes one.Said the guy purposefully sabotaging devs from here. Imagine being THIS evil.
>>541065380>The cap is the guy who keeps saying we shit on other devs/do x y or z.You got proof of that?
>>541065181gameplay mechanic variety seems pretty saturated in this genre, your best bet is relying on character development, making characters with memorable personalities and stories, and having interesting worldbuilding, adding elements to the world that make the context of the actions the player takes more interestingvery lazy example, but if there's a giant volcano that erupts every 6 in game months, then the player will need to develop a volcano-proof base, and use the post-volcano events to build new settlements and oppress rival factionsthat's just a super basic example i can think of, but i'm not sure if any other rimworld like game has these sort of explicit events to draw emotions from the playersi hope this advice makes sense to you, but you basically need to make the context of the game scenario just a bit more unique than the competition, not just mechanics and art
>>541064556Then don't do it and if you do, don't lie about it.
>>541065479i think it'd be kinda cool if your main rival faction refused to upgrade to guns and permanently relied on slings due to the volcanic eruptions providing lots of stones, and if you develop guns you stomp them, but the frequent eruptions means you only have maybe 2 months to exploit your superiority over them before the resources available to you to develop and maintain guns becomes accessible after the resetor something like thatanythingthe basis is storytelling
[exciting news] 3 salsies away from that 1:60 review ratio!!!
I forgot my pizza in the oven because I was too focused on making my game and now the crust is too hard.
>>541065695That's a shitty ratio. You should be getting as many reviews as possible, otherwise your game is forgettable unremarkable slop
>>541065847How many fucking pizzas are you eating???
>>541065847shut up damascris
>>541064336You're kidding. To test to see if you need to course-correct. If you work a few months on a game, it's best to test it on actual people before continuing to see if what you made needs to be removed or redone. You may even realize that the core concept of the game sucks and it's cheaper to shelve it and move on. You won't find any of that out unless you demo it.The alternative is to not devote any time to demoing and then work on a game for a full year and end up with a shit product because you made a small decision in the 3rd month which completely fucked up the game. You didn't test it and now you're 9 months into that path. So, you wasted 9 months. Had you released a demo mid-way in development (and let's say it took you 2 weeks to set it up), you would've only wasted 6 months and 2 weeks and would've learned the same lesson sooner. Now you'd be 2.5 months into a different game or the same one but with better mechanics.If you demo every 2 months, even better - your maximum loss is 2 months of work. There are diminishing returns with shorter timespans between demos, but I'd rather lose 2 months than 9.Have you ever even made a game?
>>5410658722 pizzas a day, one for lunch and one for dinner. Idk if I'm depressed or what but I can't bother cooking because I'm too invested in making my game.
>>541065486We don't There's about as much proof as anything said about us for that. Still, look up the citadel threads in the archive (posted last thread); the guy tried to pit people against us there. Why would we try to fuck over Doeku when he's literally in a bundle with us, and when we like him & citadel a lot?I defended citadel when the fucked up boomer-shooter sphere tried to fuck him over for being too anime or too guro. We never had issues with him.Basically this is a massive gay-op and we really didn't shill. Furries do this, a lot.
>>541066203>trust me bro
>>541066297Literally why would we have issues with Doekuramori-desu.
I've been implementing the match structure. I have two halves in a match and the players switch sides at the end of the first halve. There is a half-time ui screen that appears which I need to populate.For the webm I set the halve timer to 2 seconds.
>>541065407I will keep "purposefully sabotaging" other devs by giving them advice that led to peri's success and I'll keep supporting devs here, you can't stop me. Honestly, just @ me anywhere and I'll even give you the email list so you can shill your games yourselves.>>541064192>tfw waiting on those caps/things I "don't want posted"
Pong = no
>>541065150>thinking only one person in the world hates you>calling the entire dev team into agdg for damage controlYou are not as smart, as based, or as successful as you think. Grow some self-preservation instinct and stop posting.
>>541066650>I will keep "purposefully sabotaging" other devs by giving them advice that led to peri's success and I'll keep supporting devs herBased.
How much of your code did you steal to make your game.
Advice for slopdevs:An increasingly common complaint amongst incremental games is the lack of impact upgrades have once numbers become incomprehensibly large. Upgrading a value from 1 -> 2, 2 -> 3, 3 -> 5, ... , 100 -> 200, etc, feels rewarding. Once the upgrades get into the high thousands, people begin to lose the sense of scale of each number, and going from 10k to 10.5k makes the upgrades feel much less rewarding. This could mean that upgrades require a sense of progression to feel meaningful. Miniscule or abstract increments can reduce the motivation a player has to engage with upgrade systems. A potential solution to this is to keep upgrade values small, so the numbers remain comprehensible, or to instead, rely on a narrative, plot, or overarching scheme, so that each upgrade feels rewarding in comparison to the ultimate desire that the player has in regards to completing the game.If there's an enemy to destroy, then every upgrade will feel rewarding, due to each upgrade providing a sense of progression towards completing this ultimate objective. This is very basic when said, but can help alleviate complaints about progression losing meaning for developers making incremental games.If you're worried about your upgrade systems losing impact over time, either keep the scale of the upgrades comprehensible, so players understand what +10% crit, for example, means. Or, an alternative, is to revolve the progression in your game around fulfilling an ultimate end goal, so that each increment, regardless of the value, feels meaningful in approaching the completion of this end goal.This is my perspective on these complaints, and hopefully can provide insight for developers making incremental games. The context of your actions is incredibly important. Let each increment, upgrade, boost, whatever you want to call it, feel impactful, by modulating the scale of the values increased, or ensuring each event ties in directly towards accomplishing a larger foundational goal.
>>541066845>calling the entire dev team inMate it's two people mostly and we both browse agdg. >or as successful as you thinkI'll be frank that one annoys me because we weren't; anyone here could do what we did or better, They have better games, and better concepts. This is no issue.just like make game.
I run out of utensils so I'm eating the pizza with my hands. Whatever.
Advice for slopdevs:Terminate your lives______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>541066203None of this is even remotely relevant to what I'm talking about, but now I want to know more. Who did you or your discord crab this time?
>>541067302nodev
>>541067428struck a nerve huhjust do it
>>541067162TLDR: if you're making an incremental game, try to avoid letting your upgrades reach values where the numbers are difficult to comprehend. Alleviation of this issue can be found in keeping numbers scaled to comprehendible values, or by ensuring there is a larger goal relating to the story of the game that allows for each upgrade to feel meaningful regardless of the modified values.
I will make the first ever gayme that will mostly be about sissy hypno
>sit down, ready to get devvin'>think of something I have to do>"this won't be too hard!">realize I've just jinxed the problem into being hard>get demotivated>quit before even tryingso... so... sooo many times...
>>541067513you stuck your own nerve
>>541067315Absolutely nothing, to be quite honest crabs tried to ruin me/my life.other devs lives a bunch. It's just not something I like or think should happen.If you make a game it should be yours, and no one elses. It should be successful because you put the effort in. The crab shit is what destroys this thread and every other attempt people have at getting out of the ghetto.
>>541067849the rope calls, slopdev. after you
>>541068189that's called projection, i'm not doing anything but you're talking about roping because that's what's on your mind, not mine
>>541068238listen, you can terminate your life however you like, I won't judge. rope is classy. now do it.
Do people play longer form games on phones these days still? Wanted to make an auto battler rpg
>>541068341projection, again. you lack any kind of capability to introspect yourself, it seems. not my problem
>>541065150is that an account you made, or something? Or a genuine schizo? Or a competitor?
>furfags
>>541066203>>541064556you yugoslavian subhumans are gonna die sooner or later anyways
>>541068416Very much yes, many mobile games are quite sophisticated and require longer sessions while fully focused.You gotta have some gameplay that can be done in under 5 min while sitting on a shitter, but also something that can take an hour before bed.
>>541069531please be more kind to your polish brothers and sister, they are more or less the same as (you)
Anyone has pic rel?
Are there any actual employed gamedevs working in the industry in this general besides me?Or is everyone just an unemployed neet?
>>541068495The latter, guy got extra pissy after 4ch died around Easter. He got caught samefagging on markchan and decided it's a great idea to DM me. We found his furaffinity but he ended up deleting it, maybe he did turn to Christ.
>>541070643I’d be too worried working in this industry full time. Too many crazy people and job security seems like kinda ass and meh money. I work in healthcare, so still some crazy people but they are clinically diagnosed as least.
>>541067875>If you make a game it should be yours, and no one elses. It should be successful because you put the effort in. The crab shit is what destroys this thread and every other attempt people have at getting out of the ghetto.Is that the official stance of the peripetia team?
Most of you are destined to be the homeless crackhead that stands in the middle of the metro screaming it's lungs out.
I'm destined to make a game. You'll see.
>>541058656>some of those impersonated were good candidates to send an actual keywhat do you meansend an actual key to a scammer?
>>541070245nice cope nigga
>>541070245sisters>>541071438stop hurting yourself
>>541065150>i only post on /agdg/LMAOpogroms when
>>541071084If you're a programmer job security is actually not a problem, much less competition there.Pay is still good (programmer) overall, not so much if you compare it to other software jobs though.There are retarded people in every job, my current company is pretty chill and comfy, but I am in the EU so can't speak for the US.
>>541070873i trust neither you nor whoever made that account.>furaffinitythe charlie kirk assassin also had a furaffinity account.furaffinity considered harmful? Or whatever causes people to go to furaffinity considered harmful?
>>541071563tranny
>THE RAPED is real
Created a global audio manager and a sound source system which attenuates sound sources based on distance to some point (for example the camera). https://files.catbox.moe/qz99om.mp4
I can see why marmo stopped posting here (as the dev). You guys are mean to yesdevs
how about you make a small game, and you promote it via instagram reels?
>>541072219I'm not mean.
>>541068189Don't say stuff like that, anon.
why do people stick around in dead online games?just to socialize with the few remaining players?there's literally no more content for them to completethey have 100% completed the game, and no more new content is being releasedthey're just chilling, hanging out, having conversationscan't you use a forum, a group chat, or a discord server for that?do people really insist on using dead games as social platforms?i guess it serves as an engaging backdrop, but idk, man, i don't get it
>>541072228I don't have an Instagram account.
>>541067686the based kind or the cringe kind?
>>541070643I do regular software development for the oil industry, this is just a hobby. Working in the games industry looks like the absolute worst working conditions.I'd honestly recommend learning react.js or something and get a job in webdev.
>>541072219it's a defense mechanism, they are mean to me by existing and taking away my deserved success. do you have any idea how much it depresses me knowing this troon shit has a single sale or a single positive review? when I finally drive them away I'll be able to start working on something that will absolutely mog their shit.
>>541072228the game needs appeal for this to work, you need to understand how to design a game that you can create promotional content for that will generate views, otherwise your posts will flop
>>541070873>We foundso peristalsis dev doxes people he doesn't likedude never mind how trashy you are, you have zero self-preservation instinct
If you find yourself seething at other people's success, question what does that say about you, might be time to do some soul searching
>>541072463talking in a discord server: boringtalking in an mmo: immersive
>>541067875Don't act as if you're so fucking innocent."Oh we never crabbed ANYONE! We're le heckin good guys!"I've been to your discord server AND to your secret dev channel. Aside from crabbing on my game I saw you also talking shit about other devs in there who aren't part of your clique. Also there was some other guy on your server that everyone dogpiled on for no good reason in the public channel.You KNOW your community is cancer and yet you do nothing to prevent it, and with how erratic it's been getting recently I'm starting to believe you actively promote this.And I don't for a second believe that you are not involved in the obnoxious shilling of your game. Ask around actual anons on /v/ and they mostly call your game shit (whatever). But then after that happens all of a sudden you see a whole bunch of anons show to defend your game. Every. Single. Time. You keep trying to act like a slimy fuck as if it's just the "goodwill" of the users even when it's painfully obvious. Now you've completely outed yourself as a fag by claiming you only post on /agdg/, which no sane person would do, they'd at least alternate between relevant boards.
>>541073091>I saw you also talking shit about other devs in there who aren't part of your cliqueWho did he talk shit about and who's in his clique?
>>541072528>I'd honestly recommend learning react.js or something and get a job in webdev.Sounds miserable honestly.I don't plan on being employed forever, the strategy has always been to get in the industry to learn and get the required skills and eventually quit to make my own games. I will do an itch playtest by the end of the year, and if it does well I am going all-in.I'm 30 so it's now or never.
>>541073091based, you tellem anon. his house of cards will come crumbling down once you post the caps
>>541073610>who's in his clique?Not all of them are from agdg, but there's the Corpus Edax dev, the Sorcereress dev, and a few others which had no games released yet last I checked.>Who did he talk shit about About devs who posted webms here of their prototypes.
>>541072515It will be about cracking dorky straight cismale eggs and turning them into what they were always destined to be
>>541072463Same reason you're here.
>>541073904>Not all of them are from agdg, but there's the Corpus Edax dev, the Sorcereress devAlso the Deepeye Fake Simulacrum dev, or whatever that fucking game was called. They came here to this thread to shill it and samefagged the post
>>541073904>Not all of them are from agdg, but there's the Corpus Edax dev, the Sorcereress devAlso the Deepeye Fake Simulacrum dev, or whatever that fucking game was called. They came here to this thread to shill it and samefagged the posf
How to market indie game and when start steam page?
>>541073738
>>541073610>who's in his clique?more importantly, how do I join?
my mother is now trying to vibe-code her knittingI want off this planet
>>541070873there's nothing wrong with liking cute anthro girlsplease don't correlate that to schizophrenia and deathreatposting
>>541072219>marmo stopped posting herewhat do you meanthere's plenty of bocchi images with random nonsense like "guys i just took a poop" every thread
>>541074954>vibe-code her knittingwat
>>541075275knitting/crochet/etc have patterns to follow to reproduce an objectit's basically code but you're the machine executing it
>>541074593>How to market indie gameSubmit trailer to /v/3
>>541074953You have to survive the probation period during which you have to live in his barn and suck his cock for 12 months while singing hymns to Jesus.
>>541071860is (you)
>>541073716>Sounds miserable honestly.Well what type of day-to-day work do you do in a AAA studio? I can't imagine it's much more enthralling than any other corporate dev work, one way or another you're a cog in the machine moving Jira tickets from one column to another>I don't plan on being employed forever, the strategy has always been to get in the industry to learn and get the required skills and eventually quit to make my own games.Working in the games industry you'd better not plan on being employed forever since they'll shitcan you as soon as they release, or restructure the studios under the parent company and suddenly there's not enough seats. And success/failure doesn't even correlate to job security, you can release a successful game and the corpos still just liquidate your studio, like Tango Gameworks after releasing Hifi Rush.Also isn't everyone in the industry hyper-specialized? Its not like you have a hand in every part of the process. Taking what you learned in AAA to make an indie game, you find that having meetings all day and hiring 50,000 indians doesn't work very well for making an indie game.
>>541070643self-employed yesdevmake game get money
Why doesn't GDScript have class level enums??! Man that's so stupid
>>541074649ebin
>>541071931It could be Shotgun Anaconda, he might not have gotten over his game failing.
What the fuck is "THE RAPED"?
>>541070643Self-employed gamedev for 6-8 years depending on when I count from.I'd love to work in an actual studio and get a task I'm good at and just do it and get money at the end of the month. But I'm unemployable so I'm basically in survival mode all the time.
>>541075681it does thoughbeit
>>541074225>>541074227holy multi-device posting, samefagman
>holy multi-device posting, samefagman
>>541074225>>541074227I don't know who, but something is going on
>>541070643Yes me. I work at a medium sized studio that makes a niche game.It's comfy and low key, not what people expect from the industry.
>>541074225>>541074227That dev posted progress and was always nice and helpful. I'm glad they made it.You're a loser.
>>541075958He's the leader of the inner circle
>>541077617You're back, Shodanon! Gonna call in the rest of the gang to prop up yourself?
shartdew tranney (forced ZOG slop):236,614all-time peak 1.6 years agochudsong (organic indie success):587,150all-time peak 25 days agono matter what, evil will lose in the end
>>541077316>something is going onthe unholy php abomination known as 4chan shitting itself?
>>541077997How many hollywood podcasts hollow knight devs were on? Rhetorical question don't answer.
>>541067875based /agdg/ genius saying it like it is, enough with the transcoded attention whores in hereindie gamedev should be a meritocracy instead of this indojewish caste system, you are EVERYTHING wrong with indie gamedev
This thread is too schizo for me chuds
>>541077316didn’t buy the devs’ excuses before, but holy shit the samefagging 3 seconds apart just convinced me they might actually be telling the truth. there's some real gay shit afoot.
>>541077617>I'm glad they made it.Gross revenue: $80.6k ($40.1k - $121.1k)
reminder that the corrupt game journos would rather make an article about nepobaby barone's favorite perfume than talk about your originallikeukraine and gaza proved that journalism is a fucking joke but it should still enrage you
>>541078452>a php corruption is proof that there is a "schizo samefag" out to get peripeteiaInsane.
>>541078573game journalism was never about games. Anyone who still thinks it is is brain damaged
>>541078654no levels of damage control will convince me now, you played yourself too hard
>>541078521The 21st most reviews out of all agdg games
>>541078836>no levels of damage control will convince me nowI know they won't, because you're the shill dev.
>>541070437Post an temp email
>>541079151just catbox it you fucking ape
>>541078902by the standards of this place making it is earning back your steam submission fee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR-1FBjrKrkanother engine where one tranny beats the entire godot foundation
Happy October agdg, let’s make lots of progress this month
Why do I have a feeling that all of this Peri hate is beginning because the main guy said Fygoon was not responsible for the shitposting?You guys are fucking weird.
>>541079463nigga it's the middle of December
>>541077617what if it was the dev posting those posts?
>>541079524why are you trying to understand schizophrenic freakazoids, i bet xhey/xhem dont even know why they do what they do
Started testing new mechanics for the crystal area. Blocks that turn into bridges when destroyed, and toggle floor switches that have to all be on to keep the door open.>>541072186Nice. I need to switch to a sound manager singleton: current system is a mess of signals that makes no real sense.>>541075652Peter go away we don't want Godus 2
>>541078415>based>genius>meritocracyShod, you're a fucking crayon eater compared to some of the people your "community" drove out. Your entire modus operandi is kissing asses, playing the /ourguy/ and whoring for attention instead of working on the fucking game, which you've been digging at for 8 or so years while living in a comfortable farmhouse with your ugly wife and patreon suckers paying your bills. You even managed to capture yourself a serf to do your artwork and it still wasn't enough. The only reason anyone even pays attention to you is because you and your discord managed to get rid of every dev capable of eclipsing you. You are the last man standing, you managed to backstab every other white man so that you could become the king of niggers. Congratulations.
>>541079463Yes!
>>541079448to be fair, they have multiple trannies, and a straight white male at the frontbut yeah rock on brotheronce we get an editor the normies will wake upjust two more weeks
>>541079242catbox doesn't like the pdf
>>541073091>>541073091>>541073904what has the discord said about me? I want to know
>>541079936I've Catboxed Portable Document Format files all the time. You just don't have anything to post.
>>541079804>Thinks he's cooking>Turns his entire argument into slop by attaching a tranime picturelol
>>541079739is this game just those pokemon ice puzzles?
>>541075568>one way or another you're a cog in the machine moving Jira tickets from one column to anotherThere are some interesting tasks but mostly yes, though I got to become proficient at game programming and learned engines pretty well.>Working in the games industry you'd better not plan on being employed forever since they'll shitcan you as soon as they releaseIt's not that easy to fire people in the EU, and programmers generally are the least affected. First is middle managers, community managers, artists etc.>Also isn't everyone in the industry hyper-specialized? Its not like you have a hand in every part of the processI don't work on huge AAA titles the likes of Ubisoft, we're still a big studio (around a couple hundred people) but not that big so you get to put your hands on a pretty broad spectrum of features.The work you do not being transferable to indie dev is BS, it's actually the way to speedrun the learning process because you get to learn from the best.
>>541080325im glad you finally switched to american cartoons, fygoonoh say can you see
Some ui work.
>>541080014I'd have to know who you are to tell you first.
>>541080325>iphone filenamePlease kill yourself.
>>541080415I've always liked American cartoons, but I also like cartoons from other parts of the world too. For instance, I'm quite fond of this one Asterix and Obelix cartoon where the two are doing a bunch of trials for Caesar and one of them was getting a permit from a government building and the entire joke centered on the inefficiency of government bureaucracy.I just post Soviet-era cartoons because they are so niche and weird that it always gets a rise out of people, especially one concerning a certain little British girl and her adventures in Miracle Country.
>>541079934>once we get an editorHonestly I will give it a try
>>541080061checked again, it uploaded fine when I moved the file from nas to my local machine. Thanks for the heads up https://files.catbox.moe/6samx2.pdf
>>541073091>I'm starting to believe you actively promote thisThey always do.>i am not le responsible for what my fans do, tee hee! oh no guys, cut it out, or i'm gonna do absolutely nothing!This has been the meta for like a decade now, you can get away with anything like this
>cca 1400 hours spent>cca 1000 more hours neededDropped. I could have made this Steam page at 500 hours of development and not waste any more time. Lesson learned, I guess.
>>541080339Yep. I know everyone hated them but I always liked them.
>>541076235Well you managed to survive for that long so I'd consider that a success.Your life is what I am yearning for. Much better than wage caging.
>>541075230But he pretends he's someone else. He doesn't talk about his game or what he's working on.
>>541081409Did you promote your steam page? Maybe it's a visibility problem
>>541081268>this warrants a textbookmaybe i should just sell tutorials
I hate to say this but Fygoon, whilst bad for the board/other boards, is what we deserve. He's a parody of how shit things have gotten. He has will, sincerity, and posts for a reason; if he was not effective he would not post. Fygoon is a symptom, and an admirable one. I like Fygoon, awful as his game is, he's true to himself in a way most aren't. I wish the best for him.
>>541075380>Submit trailer to /v/3What is /v/3 ?>>541076235>I'd love to work in an actual studio and get a task I'm good at and just do it and get money at the end of the month. But I'm unemployable so I'm basically in survival mode all the time.Why are you unemployable?>>541082045>Did you promote your steam page? Maybe it's a visibility problemWhere to promote steam page?
>>541057447The more I use so called "contextual steering" the more I think it's just a shitty approximation of a real utility based decision system.Boids + an actual AI architecture is just better.
>>541082361ok, fygoon
>>541077997>>541078183Obsessed
>>541082361performing autofellatio in public is bad manners
>>541082448I'm not Fygoon, I think his game looks like shit and his designs are ass. But he is a symptom of the disease, not the disease itself.
>>541082430Nta but when you are unemployed for so long that is basically giving every single hiring person the “ick”
>>541082475To be fait you bring him up unprompted, it's unfair to call out /agdg/ when no one talks about him when you're not posting.
>>541082045Very little (tweets got 2k total views), but Steam claims the page got 45k non-bot visits in 7 months.
>trigger local schizo>he now obsessively posts about your game>keeps threads on /v/ bumped for hours>gets anons curious about about you and your game>his insane behavior makes everyone take your sideIs this a viable marketing strategy?Could you fake it by just having one of your friends larp as schizo or would people notice it eventually?
>>541082691find out how to cure the "ick" in just 2 minutes! (CLICK HERE)
claude 4.5 is incredible bros, it can even do complicated shaders now
>>541082918>Is this a viable marketing strategyNot really judging by how Peripeteia is perceived. Many anons shit on Peripeteia regardless of who they side with and some call into question the existence of the schizo all together.
>>541082430>Where to promote steam page?Make a trailer, send trailer to gaming press. If it's a good trailer (and game) they will feature you.Reddit, tiktok, instagram, X might work for marketable games as well.
>>541082475Do you think he will return this Christmas or is he finally done with this place?
>>541080514>I'd have to know who you are to tell you first.and out myself as someone who is worried about what the discord thinks about me? no deal I just want to know what they say about me without revealing who I am
>>541081169i did NOT ask for any of that shitplease do not delude yourself into thinking that anyone in here is friendly towards you or is interested in your likes and dislikes
>>541081889I've survived so far but I need to survive for decades more and I don't know how because things are getting worse.>>541082430>Why are you unemployable?I can't even get a job interview. The only thing I've ever done professionally is make websites and make games and I don't know how to do anything else.I didn't try applying for warehouse jobs yet so I'm probably not completely unemployable.
>>541082863Oh yeah that seems pretty grim for 7 months.
>>541083474Then I can't help you, chud.
The notes work.
>>541082918>marketing strategy>on a website with 50 daily usersbro can you just like fucking cut footage of your game into youtube shorts like a normal person instead of filibustering about ts<emoji of wilted flower> <emoji of broken heart>
>>541083089don't believe me? just look at the two anons hating on the game so hard they had the same thought at the same second
>>541081268OP here, thanks a bunch anon!
>>541083912it's a computer bug, snakeyour game has thousands of them, you could go and fix some
>>541082691YTA and pretty much this. My resume probably reads>done his own thing his entire life and never worked with other peopleWhy take a chance on me when there's a hundred equally capable or more capable career wagies applying for the same job?
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS CHUD ASS BASTERD DID YOU KNOW THAT ITS MY FIRST GAME BLOODY??? THATS RITE MY TUTORIAL GAME MADE ME OVER 100M TOTALLY NOT A PSYOP BY THE GAMBLING INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX BTW
>>541081268Oh shit I thought you were trying to dox someone. I apologize for my ignorance.
>>541084119this could be you if you just made a northernlionlike
>>541084119luachads can't stop winning
>>541083680You did by virtue of engaging with me. If you are not willing to have a conversation, then what is the point of going onto this website and replying to me? You're not antisocial, you're just socially retarded.
>>541084119(((they))) need easy success stories so that (you) slave away for years while (((they))) harvest your free r&d and market research for the next drm-ridden slop
>>541084390i'm actually very socially active, extroverted even, i scored ESTJ on that 25 personas test or whatever it's called, and many tests for autism/aspergers gave me an astoundingly low score
>>541084547>i scored ESTJ on that 25 personas testyou score less than 100 on the IQ test for taking those in the first place
>>541084636i think it's more reliable in telling your personality than an IQ test in testing your intelligence, i'm ngl i'm deadass
first day at uni and ill be honest, im fucking terrifiedbut it was also very coolIm gonna have to manage gamedev and studies, might take a break soonive saved up enough money to comfortably survive a year, basically no costs besides travel (EU-GODS)wasteland bites needs to bring in some cash or else its gonna get tight
>>541084760it's a fucking horoscope anon
>>541084862how is it a horoscopeyou answer the questions, it's not just random star shit
>>541084764fuck off slopshitter
>>541083338Have faith
>>541084764>making a game about your likely futurefucking grim
>>541084918You answer a question with a horoscope too. Ever hear of "When's your birthday?"
>>541084313nah the game journos started shilling it very early and he got involved with geoff knightley right away, it's obviously forced to promote gambling and pokerits the most unnatural indie success since shartdew, if you make nlslop your ceiling is nubby not balatroon
today i will make progress
>>541085212fygoon...>>541085262northernlion played it first when nobody knew about it, before it came out
Not buying your game if you use chatgpt/claude/cursor/aislop to code
https://voca.ro/19M0hSM8EUOxhttps://voca.ro/1nbdfkqmoJrkwhich way, orkin man?
>>541085438it had 30k players on launch day, for an "unknown" indie game its abnormalthe entire thing is just an ad for poker (check google trends poker and balatro), anti fygoon tranny bootlicker troon this is why i side with fygoon, his enemies are repulsive
>>541084764make rat fall on the grill and get cooked so you can make a Ratburger
>>541074178Never seen so few words burn so true on this entire general.
>>541085680first song is boring and right ear dominant and has boring ass drums, synths, honestly just boringsecond song is better but has copy paste drums and the hi hats are annoying and don't emphasize or contribute to anything.
amongus (lightning in bottle covid moment)447,476all-time peak 5.1 years agochudsong (organic indie success):587,150all-time peak 25 days agobalatroon (shilled to death GOTY)43,905 all-time peak 9 months agothese 3 games had the same amount of PR and viral marketing, do you see whats wrong? i bet you think the hawk tuah girl (jewish shitcoin rugpuller) and the "rizzler" (jewish family with links to hollywood and distribution) are organic successes too
>>541084506take your meds schizo
>>541084764you should show this to critical reflex I think they would like it and the boss is a smoking hot girl
Hiring sweet baby inc for my pong clone
>>541081749nah it's cool im a fan of sokoban style games
>>5410856801st, but fix the panning.>>541085949Aren't they the same song with some changes?
>>541085760it feels like logging in to your favorite game years after the patch that ruined everything, the patch that ruined everything else, and the patch that ruined the things you didn't even know could be ruined, the third world f2p patch, the crashing anticheat patch, and the patch that turned the entire game UI into a chromium process you have to tab out and kill or else it leaks your entire ram
>>541072463they are seeking to prolong the experience they had in their first times playing the game.its an attachment to nostalgia
What are some of your favorite formulas for stats and modifiers?How Luck should affect things in the game?
>>541086296because its a thin veiled ad for poker LMFAO
>>541085685>it had 30k players on launch dayyesbecause northernlion played it BEFORE launch dayhe streamed the demoare you following the conversation, actual retard?
>>541085680second one is better, feels less stiff and natural. first one has a real robotic rhythm and harmony
>>541086296over target
>>541058656Thanks for the advice. It's almost the same what I've had in mind, but really glad it actually worked out for someone, so I know it could work for me.
>>541086513first of all, you babboon, redditlion playing something doesnt mean that a game is getting 30k players on launch + GOTY away + insane PRsee >>541086295balatroon is the biggest psyop since shartdew tranney
My game is compiling. It's coming together bit-by-bit.
>>541058656I hesitate to buy your game because some people say you are ziggers is that trve? I once drew fanart for you
>>541086950Linker error coming your way
>>541086892>redditlion playing something doesnt mean that a game is getting 30k players on launch + GOTY away + insane PRthat's true and nobody claimed otherwisebut him playing it means the game is seen by 30k people who upon seeing it decide that the game is good and fun to play so they go and try it themselvesi don't see how anything about it is inorganic at allWhy would someone secretly promote it? And why?(real answers only, no actually-schizophrenic-paranoia deep state "They Live" theories)
>>541086950Should have written it in assembler, would have been faster.
>>541058656>I still gotta attempt making an ircso this is the tech proficiency of the peri team
>>541084764Cosmic Call was made by a highschooler?Fuck me I really started too late.
>>541086303already got a publisherbut yeah, i think i could make another horror game and send it to-em, seems to kind of be a cheat code for money>the boss is a smoking hot girlu think shed go out with me ?
>>541087104>Why would someone secretly promote it? And why?How and why*
>>541084764Please don't tell me you are paying for university to study gamedev. Tell me you are getting a useful degree!Anyway, you bet I'm gonna buy your game.
Wanna spice up your game's soundtrack? Consider adding a cowbell sound
>>541087104the gambling industry who spends millions in ads and literally made a separate streaming service after twitch banned gambling? its impossible for you to believe that balatroon is an organic success, despite the insane virality and instant GOTY it doesnt have that many playersjust getting invited to the game awards as a small indie should be a redflag, but sure i bet you believe iraq had wmds, epstein killed himself, jet fuel can melt steel beams, the covid vaccine will protect you from covid, jfk was killed by a schizo loner, israel is not comitting genocide, etc, etc since they're not the official™ versionanti fygoon bootlicking tranny, you deserve death
>>541087637balatro is not even a gambling game, it's just a poker-themed roguelikehow does it help promote gambling at allyou're insane
>>541087392Shit is essentially free in Germany and you can't amass wealth there anyway. He might aswell fuck around with studying some useless shit.
>>541087137look at it this way. if you were a prodigy coding games since elementary school, agdg would have a collective meltdown, burn your house down in real life and then vow to never ever speak of you again
>>541078452could be the developer himself
>>541088027are you retarded? of course it does make poker more relevant to a younger audience since its a boomer thing, lo and behold gambling streamers can play it in between actual gambling sessionsnormalizing gambling is something that industry wants and balatroon has one of the most abnormal rise since shartdew (microshart picking up a rpgmaker looking game for no reason)
>>541087392IT, Cybersecurity (or Software Engineering, i gotta decide in a year idk)i dont think i can even study gamedev here, theres no department for it or anything like thatthought theres some 3d graphics and design stuff where they use unreal & unity
>>541088302you spergs will believe every conspiracy theory except the ones you actually should
>>541088431you need to kill yourself already you fucking loser
oy... kick, sports gambling and balatro all getting popular at the exact nanosecond is nothing goy, shut it or i'll mkae you go kaputz
>>541088069Still roughly 3-4 year of your life. It might not half-bankrupt you like in the US, but you're young only once.>>541088431Oh thank god. You've made a good choice (or at least not a catastrophic one). I'm sure you game will be just fine, I prophesize that it's gonna make it. And if it won't do it on release, I'll fucking market for it.
>>541086952he is a gamedev, not a soldier
>>541088583kwab you are
>>541082691>Nta but when you are unemployed for so long that is basically giving every single hiring person the “ick”You can lie and write some fake jobs that you did recently.>>541083285>Reddit, tiktok, instagram, X might work for marketable games as well.How to use these platforms? I should buy ads or post from free account? What tags to use?>>541083703>I can't even get a job interview. You need to lie in your resume and spam it everywhere.
>>541087562Me with the black purse in the back
did rapedev and niggerdev link up?
>>541088927He must have Slavo Ukraine or whatever in his game or I won't buy. Which game btw?
NEETs who pretend to gamedev should feel ashamed of themselves. They could literally be contributing to society and have an actual job but instead they sit in their mommy's basement rent free. absolutely deluded to think they have the talent or discipline to make a game.
>>541089670niggerdev here, still soloi am interested in a collab doe
>>541087137theres no too late anonsure its not optimal but who caresgood games are made made all the time
I turn code into fucking miracles.
Electronic games are magic. We're literally doing the impossibe
>>541090028imagine actually self identifying as niggerdev. your self esteem must be in the gutter
>>541089606>You need to lie in your resume and spam it everywhere.In my country previous employers are in the government records and are visible on any background check.
>>541090939you need to grow a thicker skin if you finna make it in this kookily world, just being honest
Are crabs freaking out THAT much over the idea that people like games they don't like?
>>541088927i don't care, tzd
why this pigger crashing out for no reason
>>541087562strong agdg energy in that video
>>541086468I like when every +1 is a noticeable power spike and has measurable effects like taking one less hit to kill something.
fygoon was right
>>541070437>nearly 100k before taxesShould I sell shovels?
Fygoon:>comes in and makes the general terribleFygoon:>this general is terribleRetard anons:>wow fygoon was right
Fygoon, bokusimp, who else are we missing?
>>541092164It was terrible before he showed upt. the guy that was tearing the general apart before fygoon showed up
>>541091382Settle down, shodanon.
this made 200k in one dayhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3436030/IDLE_BOSS_RUSH/
>>541092005yes unless your shovels are good enough to dig you a comfy moat
>>541087137Tick-tock middle aged nodevs
Could a gender critical game succeed?
>>541092563imagine believing that anything but pure luck matters in this jobby
>>541087137>>541088098>>541090438>>541092696Look at it this way: because he started way too early he's now locked into a permanently work-mind state that he might never get out of again. It means that his mind probably won't blossom to its full potential and he will start running in the same place way before he reaches any skillset that can sustain him
>>541092696Damn brat...*>:[When my game becomes a smash hit... I will probably never post here again and distance myself from you guys altogether
>>541088927I am a gamedev too, and yet get fucked up by drones regularly (belgorod)
>>541087137I made my first game at 36 and now I'm 44 and I've earned ALL of my money from gamedev for 6 years so far.Almost all of us are going to fail at this and have to do something else eventually.
>>541092271I'm surprised cumball hasn't been spamming.
>>541092939
>GODot : running>bear : cracked>tranny gloves : onyepits aggy time
>>541093065Yeah bro just like how Risk of Rain was also made in Hopoo's first year of college, and it ruined him completely and he couldn't make any games afterwards, sad stuff really.
>>541094071The difference is Hopoo actually succeeded big enough to not be forced to keep doing it
>>541093728when I worked 9-5 life was so easy. I'd just go to the office, do my job, then go home and play skyrim or do freelance work or invite my girlfriend over so I can watch her play wow and ignore me.life without a regular income is pretty draining in itself. life without being able to find a job is much worse. you work 8 hours and get paid at least minimum wage. I work 8 hours, get paid $1/hour if that (because flops happen) and spend the other 8 hours worrying about money.
BASTERD BETCH WHY ONLY 3 REVIEWS MY GAME
Sirs... He called me a basterd betch... What I do sirs?
NAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH BLUD, claude code fixed the bug again
>>541067206>>541086952
>>541057680deadwire bros
>ask chatgpt about 1MA deving>says to use procedural generationand into the trash it goes
>tfw have to send some job applications to keep my unemployment benefitswhy do they bully me they know I'm not gonna get hired anywhere
>>541094696redeem now
>>541079739kino
I was making fun of wagies even back then when I was one myself. Wageslavery actually pushed me into making a game. I doubled my annual income WHILE staying cozy in my home.
>>541079448how do we defend this? defold, bevy are baby engines compared to the millions of godot maintainers and budget yet theyre btfoing godot's garbage rendering alreadyjuan is an incompetent rat
>>541064869I don't have any competition because my games are one of a kind.
>>541091103>In my country previous employers are in the government records and are visible on any background check.Your country prevents you from having job then. Fuck them and go collect NEET money.
>>541095219>just place every blade of grass and every pebble by hand, bro
>>541095219It's a good strategy for some game types to create content. some compromises have to be made if you want to release and get paid.
>>541095974has anyone here got a non-shit job by lying about their employment history or degree?
Post your game design document
>>541070643not right now, I'm about to do my third and final round of interviews early next week. If I get the job, they'll be helping me move and then I'll start in early December. On one hand, it's nice cus the position pays around $75k and that's more than I've ever made. On the other hand, they're located in the second most expensive area in my state.
>>541096159>>541096168it said to do it for stuff like level design
>>541087562https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-_A-b3X7rkkDid he go too?
>>541072463>why do people stick around in dead online games?>just to socialize with the few remaining players?Yeah I used to do that honestly it's kino being in a dead game, the players that are left are usually a very tight community. Just chatting about life and stuff it's more immersive than a chatroom and more memorable aswell. Those memories will be even stronger after the game inevitably dies. The final days of an MMO are always KINO of the highest degree.
Are you guys enjoying your collective melties
>The way you do a 3d viewport shader is by covering the camera with a cube, flipping its faces and giving it a shader materialWhy is this engine so retarded sometimes?
>top down game>side-scrolling game>third person game
I just checked the 'cord and saw what you said about me. You guys are assholes.
>>541096641I showed this image to ChatGPT, Copilot, Claude and Gemini and only ChatGPT understood that it's a joke and a parody. The others were all like>This is a plan for developing an ambitious RPG.ChatGPT is so far ahead, there's no point using anything else.
my unity charactercontroller loses sprint speed once he jumps because he's no longer grounded and exits sprint state while in midair. how do i keep sprint speed when jumping while not being in sprint state and not grounded?
>>541097523normalize the horizontal velocity before adding the adding the vertical velocity and calculating it separately.we don't see your state machine code.
>>541097523first set up the sprint state so it requires the player to be grounded in order to start sprintingthen set it up so once in the sprint state, you don't need to remain grounded to maintain it.
I looked at some small youtubers who program games and other complex stuff for fun and I feel so fucking stupid. These guys create all kinds of applications that are actually difficult to make and they design them elegantly.
I want to implement a luck perk in my roguelite. I'm thinking of doing DnD style advantage where with this perk any RNG check is rolled twice and the better option is picked. Would that be meaningful enough for the player to feel a difference? It turns a coin flip into a 75% chance, and rolling a 10 when picking a number between 1 and 10 has a 19% chance.
>>541098329Getting two tries at anything is extremely powerful.
>>541098118Care to post some? I've never had such an experience. Also, I need some good ideas to steal atm.
>>541098469https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSfR3xafjVo
>>541098118What they don't bother to mention is that they spent months debugging and writing them and iterating on them for the final product shown in the video. Don't feel down. I know the guys you are talking about and I was initially impressed aswell but I realized they're just like all of us, they hide all the iteration and pain behind video editing.
>>541098604wtf, how did you know, I was thinking of having a mod player for days
>>541058656Man you really riled up the retards with this one
>>541098118I also feel so fucking stupid until I see what games they've published and compare it to mine. I'm dumber than 90% of devs whose tutorials I've watched but I'm more successful as a gamedev than almost all of them.
>>541099057im a periteiapaia fan but lets be honest here; he got raped
my cousin is a youtube/twitch gamer with over 1 million youtuber subsciptionsis him playing my game enough of marketing or do i need more people to stream/play it?
>>541099357Bokusimp screaming his head off about how everyone around him is dishonest isn't being "raped", it's like having one of those shitty middle age woman's tiny white apartment dogs yapping at you
>>541099469no i meant that he couldnt address the schizos and ran, he shouldnt care 'cause his game made it but yeah objectively he got rapedthis is why you should leave this place when you make it
>>541099675>he decided to not waste time on insignificant schizo losersmeans>he got raped
/v/3's spinoff show, The /v/erdict, is back this December and we want (you) to be in it! Here's the details: >Trailers must be 1440x1080 >A minimum of 30 seconds and a maximum of 3 minutes >Two submissions per dev Right now you can either send us the games through the discord: https://discord.gg/v3expo or through our email at: gamesubmit4v3@gmail.com Site submissions will be up soon!Don't be the raped, join the show.
>>541099675>this is why you should leave this place when you make itwaiting to leave until you make it is too late. you should leave as soon as have something that looks and feels somewhat competent
>>541100048>t.
>be me, ideas guy>keep having great game ideas right before I fall asleep>always forget them before I can make a game from them>decide to buy notebook>keep it on my bed so I can write them down asap and not forget>one night, about to fall asleep when an idea hits me>write it down>next morning grab notebook to see what the idea is>"That's a really good idea, I should turn it into a game"why does this keep happening
>>541100354LAMAO
>>541100182when's the deadline?
>>541099675>no i meant that he couldnt address the schizosIt's funny how you retards are so desperate for attention>PLEASE SIT THERE AND LET ME SCREAM AT YOU>YOU HAVE TO TALK TO ME>YOU HAVE TO
>>541100354Would this make for a good OP image?
>>541100540December 7th
>>541100354Would bocchiposters make good wives?
how come agdg hates me so much
>>541100860Cause you post deranged shit and don't have a game
>>541100354kek
>>541100354what is a competing agdg project though? is there even any competition here?
>>541100354
>>541100983i have a game and i do not post deranged things
>>541100354What book is the bocchi holding?
>>541101402The Transition
>>541100838You mean fat bald dudes?
Who wants me to make the thread even worse
>>541101581Mathematically impossible
>>541101581You can always go to the Liqcord, there's plenty of entertainment in the #autism channel.https://discord.gg/DSzZa9K
>>541101581Taking a diarrhea dump on a pile of shit isn't really going to make it worse.
I had two girlfriends. How much seethe would I generate if I attach a bocchi image to my posts?
>>541101665It's not, just talk about how Underspace got 40k sales and the dev's a clear success.
>>541101267of course, what shodanon doesn't fucking get is that agdg are not friends, we all end up on steam where we fight tooth and nail for eyeballs of the unwashed masses, and no amount of feel-good motivation bullshit, "advice", "support" or acknowledgement of other projects will make up for the fact his existence and the existence of all you losers takes away from my game's success and it's the only thing that matters. I hope this piece of shit dies in horrendous pain, it's all he deserves.
God I hate to change location for work
>>541101875Trainwiz is an inspiration and that's just the honest truth
>>541101402Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, newfriend
>>541101402
>>541102064Honestly 1MA an entire open world RPG of that scale is insane and I don't know how he managed to avoid burnout
>>541100570im saying the opposite tough? he had it coming by antagonizing the unemployed and getting raped, bro literally crossposted schizo posts from the previous thread this is a lesson for us all
>>541095365Thanks frog! Here's a few tutorial-style levels for this area. Going to test ramping up the difficulty, see how hard I can make them while still being fun (lights out puzzles can be frustrating). Maybe add one more mechanic for this zone to keep it interesting.
>tranny keeps coping
I don't want to work on audio today.
>>541102237sus
>>541101267Shod's crab friends got rid of it for him long ago, unironically. Dude's the last standing because he has no spine or morals.
I heard Fygoon and Shodanon are planning to make their own version of /v/3 and only allow their friends to join.
if you're making the kind of game AAA and AA studios make but worse, you're wasting your precious time. if you can't come up with a unique hook, you should be catering to some specific niche.
>>541102717you will be slaughtered
>>541102042I have no idea about your gameplay
She needs him so bad right now
I'm 23 years old and I can't finish my game because I can't get a job.
>>541102247Autism is a powerful thing. Most crabs here think they have autism, but they just have retardation.
How many of you put your games on handheld to play test on the go?
>>541103346all my games work on mobile too because why wouldn't I publish on mobile as well?
>>541103048
541103048obsessed tranny #438keep posting
>>541103346bro you have schizophrenic fingers...
pretty happy with my new workflow.
>>541103774ssri intake status?
>>541103774cris FVARKING WON
>>541103774>breeding hips>puffy vulvagmi
>>541102131>>541102237Thank you. Never read that, heard about it though. I think a new version uses Javascript.
>>541101875I'm happy for him, his game was the most ambitious game here by far
*obnoxious youtube thumbnail with peripeteia character in it*This dev got RAPED...The dark side of this indie dev...The Rise and Fall of Peripeteia...
>>541102909okbut what is it
>>541104114kek
Success breeds jealousy.
>>541104443which is why mado is furiously mad at gabe newell.
>>541063215I'm noticing this too. I've been in and out of here a lot because of uni work and the threads from this week are the same regurgitated shitposts as last week. The best thing a prospective dev could do is limit how often they come here unfortunately. I blame the discord for this. A lot of the devs who used to post progress here have completely moved there
>>541104114
how do you find somebody to make games with irl
Only egoistic normaloids are jealous. I was never capable of jealousy because I have no ego.
>>541104886*clicks on it*
>>541104886I'm almost inclined to make a satirical youtube slop video on this now...
Sometimes I come on here just to laugh at you guys failing to make the most basic games, wasting hours and time and effort to chase the slimmest chances of success. The sheer delusion is unmatched
>>541105215the chance of success is actually pretty high as long as you make something that would be at least passable in 1997 (it never is)
>>541101537Before or after getting isekai'd?
>>541100438didn't read
>>541105430How would you judge Deadwire?https://store.steampowered.com/app/2995100/DeadWire/https://steamdb.info/app/2995100/The reviews are good, but the Steam forum has complaints of bugs.
where do you think indie gamedev will be 5 years from now? i feel like we are in the middle of a dark age for the jobby
>>541103107>I'm 23 years old and I can't finish my game because I can't get a job.I'm 34 years old and I can't finish my game because I can't get a girlfriend. or a wife.
>>541104061Net Yaroze game included for free in an OPM demo disc.
That's it. If it doesn't work tonight I'm killing myself. I mean, my game. In my game. Minecraft.
>>541105851meant for >>541105683
>>541103774i was able to get away from cris in the discord but for some reason they let him stay and he shits up every single channel all the time now it pisses me the fuck off man, makes me want to just leave
>>541102042That way of moving looks goofy.Maybe if there is a straight line from the leader's starting point to the leader's end point, they all pathfind individually to their individual end points. And only if there is not a straight line, they form up behind the leader. Or some other way of going about it.
>>541063215The fact that everyone is too scared to post their game for literally no reason sums up everything. Kids who grew up sheltered on ipads ruining their brains watching streamers and shit have no idea how to properly communicate and have killed this place.
>>541105438nyah
>>541105851Doesn't seem like something one would pay money for.
>>541106050Cris is more of a yesdev than you are.
>>541105105Same way you do anything else lmao. Go to places that have people with your interests and make friends. Your local colleges have events and groups and bars/places to gather etc. Go socialize.
>>541106318umm i dont do those kinds of things and i dont know how to do them anyways, theres nobody in my city that makes games anyways
>>541106136It is not the responsibility of yesdevs to entertain nodevs. GMI yesdevs do not care about other people's games. Only nodevs and NGMI flopdevs come here to look at other games.
>>541106452Oh, then kys for being a fucking loser lmfao there's absolutely people in your city making games
>>541106289Nobody did back then. At best it would end up in a shareware CD for some PC magazine, maybe as the cover title but basically barely costing more than the CD itself. It would be pirated and passed from nerd to nerd, resting on a 4 GB hard drive right next to classics such as "dude.exe" and "Construction Bob Escapes From Hell"
>>541106621BLOODY WHY YOU CALL ME FLOPDEV
>>541106662>there's absolutely people in your city making gamesI want absolutely nothing to do with them, or with anyone who plays video games. My games are made for AIs and future/alien civilizations only.
>>541106621I don't come here to look at other games dipshit. My point was that as far as I've experienced everyone is a nodev because any time I talk to a retard and say "post game" to give them even the smallest amount of acceptance they refuse. Zoomers are cowards.
>>541106452If it's a city there is people making gamesAlso go to a university and host the events if they're not, cities will fund that shit
>>541063215It took you this long to recognize that?
>>541104886I don't know anything about peripetia but whenever people explain it to me they call it something like "gun lesbians" and that turns me offit's weirdI make the most girl-on-girl sex game out there even out of all the lesbian devs and lesbian-fetish devs, but I'm also the least interested out of all of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyisMJ5q1c/agdg/ in 2025
>>541107002Then why even ask the question, dumbass
>>541106621Karma will come for you. I help others with their demos and they give feedback on mine. Being a lone wolf doesn't really work out long term because networking is everything especially in creative industries
>>5411060501. right-click2. "Ignore this user"3. install Vencord4. "Hide blocked/ignored accounts" pluginno need to thank me, it's on the mouse
>>541107036give it up anon, the times of fishing vital info out of vulnerable anons for a tiny bit of acceptance and attention they lack at home are long gone
>>541107382...vital info?
>>541106662>>541107079they're already making games with other people who are better at it than me or just more fun to hang out with and they have personalities and hobbies and stuffim built to make games alone at home in the dark alone
who is shodanon and what is his game?
>>541106750Guess that is why no one seems to be buying it now.
what do i do when my story is cringe
>>541107625You sound pathetic
what went wrong?
>>541105683flop
I saw an upcoming indie game on steam that had a psx style. it had a fantasy subject of magic and goblins, but i think it was set in a modern setting? and i think the game was third-person.anyone know what it is?
>>541107842well i am so....
>>541106050Rotate and the /v/3 guy are also in the cord and somehow not banned
>>541107852>what went wrong?
>>541107638https://www.mobygames.com/game/237515/peripeteia/credits/windows/?autoplatform=true
>>541103472Mobile phones are for niggers and niggers play games, there are even no buttons on mobile phones. It's for niggers.
>>541108127oh. I've seen that one posted a few times before, I always thought it looked pretty bland. surprised it got so many reviews, good for the dev I guess.
>>541108337based
>>541108337I once saw an elderly, female, European engineer play simplistic games on a smartphone.
>i create experiences
Some people are so mindbroken that they think avatarfagging as anime girl and pretending to be trans is funny and not just a waste of their own youth and brain
>>541108515It has multiple developers. But also income from Kickstarter and Patreon.
>>541108772they are in they mid 30s doe
>>541100438truth is your ideas are probably shit
>>541108956This.
>>541109013Same...
>>541108985Oh, and I take it that yours are good? Post an idea, if you even have one.
wait isnt shoda a pedophile thing? why he call himself shodanon doe? unless its shod(shot?) anon?
>>541107259Karma has already come for you, but you're too retarded to realize. There's no point in "networking" with NGMI low-skill flopdevs. You're just a bunch of losers licking each others' wounds. None of you are going to make it.
>>541102717kill yourself
>>5411089561. That just makes it worse.2. Men are still solid and youthful in their 30s. Fertility in men doesn't really start to drop until you hit 40 years old or so, maybe sooner if you already fucked up your dick jacking off all day.
im a future flopdev....
>>541107775Focus on fun and engaging gameplay.
>>541109326Sisters, how do we respond without sounding mad?
>>541108772>waste of their own youth and brainit's fine i got neither
>>541105683>hotline miami clone>in 2025lmao>>541105709if steam doesn't ban AI games it will be flooded with so much shit that natural page views from steam will be 0 and the search will be functionally useless
>I want to create a Worst Ending where our "hero" gets revenge on someone not by killing him, but by killing his 3-month-old son to hurt him for the rest of his life.>literally every platform is against player-driven child murder and it'd get my game pulled offFUCK.
>>541109447Are games even fun anymore? Name the last game you had fun with.
>>541071757This reminds me of /ic/. But I'll ask anyway before I fuck off: Is there an engine for a low-iq simpleton like me who's only ever touched lua and python a couple of years ago?
>>541109478My games success will fix everything
>>541109221im going to make it
It just works.
>>541058273>guy gives my game a negative review because the achievements are too hard to getTHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF ACHIEVEMENTS ASSHOLE REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>541109870fygoon, incinerate this freak
>>541109118quality of my ideas doesn't affect your gamedev success so it is irrelevant if I have good ideas or notyou should consider how you can come up with good ideas so you can find gamedev success
>>541109490goodfuck web 2.0bring back word of mouthbring back webrings and fansitesbring back retailtotal steam deathtotal gaben woodchippering
>>541100354>>541104886what would happen if you put all that effort into making game?
>>541109493Just send the child to the shadow realm.
on steam do I need to price with it like X dollars and 99 cents, or can I choose how many cents it is as well?for example can I price my game at 4 dollars and 27 cents
>/v/ turned on peripeteia>and now /agdg/ hasHe only has 8moe left.How can Shodanon fix his?
>>541109992That is fagoon
>>541108337GTA, Baldur's Gate, Stardew Valley, Terraria, XCOM, Civilization VI, Max Payne, KOTOR...
>>541110248Already did that, my rewards for years of work? 3 reviews (1 negative)
>>541109490>if steam doesn't ban AI gamesSteam did ban AI games in 2023, just how your troon ass wanted. But then the big boys realized the potential for AI, and pressured fatfuck gabencunt to lift the ban.And fatfuck gabencunt, being the cuck that he is, bent the knee.So seethe, looney troon.Seethe every day until the day you die.
>>541088927He seemed ready to fight for polish farmers on twitter when those were turning over trucks with ukrainian grain over something something in argentina or whatever
>>541110568>So seethe, because AAA slop won.>You will own nothing and you will be happy just like me
>>541109013>>541109090let's fucking go!
>>541107775Hire a writer to punch up your story early on.
I made progress but I will not share it with you people. my progress is for my eyes only, sorry to everyone who isn't me.
>>541110821You could be pressuring fatfuck gabencunt to ban AI or raise the Steam fee. But instead you shit on the solo devs who use AI because you're a deranged looney troon who has no power in its pathetic life.So yes, seethe. Seethe until you die.
>>541110953Based.
>>541110248I would end up homeless, starving and completely alone.
>>541110723>NOOOOOO NOT THE HECCIN ONIONSNo one cares, pigger.
>>541111041I shit on AI devs because they are delusional. Not only does it flood creative spaces like /agdg/ with low-effort trash but it's a self-harm problem. AI users are falling for a scam and are just as likely to fall for other shit like NFTs. Someone needs to help them realize that they're destroying any chances of ever developing an imagination or any sort of creativity, in return for...$50 to big AI corp every month.
>>541110472why blud put cacapoo doodey in their with kotor? what a yakubian move
>>541111041It seems like probably a good meta strat to just say you're using AI voices, wait for the anti-AI backlash, and then pivot and say you're actually going to hire VAs. Free PR.
>>541111275That's a load of assumptions and projections, not one of them having any basis in reality.If you think AI can only be accessed by paying a big corp 50 dollars a month... It's a (You) problem.It also says more about YOUR deficiet creativity and problem skills than that of the AI user.
>>541111615>It also says more about YOUR deficiet creativity and problem skills than that of the AI user.You're claiming I'm making assumptions, but then you assume that because I don't understand AI, I 'lack creativity'? lmao get a load of this fellaAre we really saying that AI enhances creativity now? What, should I just ship out all my creative decisions to a board of directors who will vote on the most average and safe option? Is that what creativity is now? Because that's what AI might as well be.Aside from the fact that, you know, AI is a way to avoid actually putting effort or creativity into a project.
>>541111836>I 'lack creativity'?yes fygoon you do lack creativity
>>541111836>What, should I just ship out all my creative decisions to a board of directors who will vote on the most average and safe option? Isisn't this what this entire board does every demo day
>>541107963>/v/3 guy are also in the cord and somehow not banneWhy would he be banned?
>>541112179thread. whatever
>>541112130>CHADgoon outta nowheremeds
>>541112130>He unironically thinks Fygoon is here right nowGet a load of this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nERF_VWDqZknigga what tf is this
Fygooncunt be seething after being found out
>>541111275https://x.com/F530Josh/status/1971420729032806499
>>541112998Sounds like AI is great if you want to sell to old people who don't know what a game is
Threads on /v/ are way better. Just saiyan'
>>541111275>use ai>nooo you are taking our jerbs!>don't use ai>nooo you are le seething and malding!just do whatever the fuck you wanti use AI to not feed the jews at textures.com who moved even the raw lowres jpegs behind a paywall
fygoom, incinerate this entire thread and every gacha general on this board
>>541113201I recognize that picture from my favorite video game cutscene!
>>541110568I am not strictly opposed to AI but I am worried for the flood of shit made with AI I am sorry that my post triggered your sensitive sensibilities
>>541113326>who moved even the raw lowres jpegs behind a paywallNo way that's true
>>541113708go ahead and check
>>541113393>He doesnt have a game so he posts his homosexual fantasies instead
>>541112750>>541112519See >>541113839
>>541113839My homosexual fantasy doesn't involve me? Weird.
>>541114191You think gays can't be cucks? Racist.
>>541114029im not, explain what you see
>>541035134I ask chatgpt the exact opposite of what I think is the case just to see if it implicitly tells me I am wrongit usually doesthen when I say sikes it almost without fail says>haha well played>sorry for the confusion etc etc
>>541112998Why are fat people like this?
why are the crabs jealous of shodanon?
>>541114281So...am I dating fagoon or YTC? Why am I not in the image? Idk man, your explanation doesn't seem to make sense.
Literally, all I need is $160 to finish my game...
>>541114578fucking fat cunts, first gaben takibng 30% now herthankfull the brave dog was there, i think he's very brave, some may say the bravest in factfygoon predicted this btw
who is fygoon? i see him mentioned here. i see him mentioned on v.i was in a music thread the other day and even saw him mentioned there.who the heck is he
>>541114807cris 2
>>541109013>>541109090>>541109483>>541110823>>541114571>>541114679leave this hallowed place, member of LGTB
>>541114859and who is cris? is he the guy posting the girls with pink hair all the time?
>>541112258He griefed the op a few times a few years ago
how many wishlists to get an artist gf? im brown if that matters btw
>>541114807lolcow schizo like cris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RyT0JMjJZgwhen i said that people want dinosaur horror games and its the next big thing i was laughed that, i expect at least 3 (You)s as reparation
>>541114807He's 90% of the spam in these threads. He's the reason the v thread gets remade once a day instead of once a week. He spams his shitty looking game based on a story he wrote in elementary school with his boyfriend. Any time you see the word "CHAD" or "tranime" it's him spazzing out. He's a Russian mutt autistic rat who cant understand basic human interaction. He was always annoying but he went super meltie mode when one dev called him out for sucking and made the art of him getting fucked by a black guy. After that he started spamming AI CP and calling everyone grassfag. Now people antagonize him regularly to have him meltdown repeatedly because hes too stupid to leave.
>>541115107>He did something at some pointHoly happenings batman!
>explaining things to nodev newfagsYou are the cancer that killed /agdg/.
>>541115492>grassfagwho?
>>541114931
>mfw 3 of my funposting personalities are attributed to fygoonim sorry, CHADgoon...
>>541115796im a yesdev oldstraight
>>541115796It's better they know the truth about someone like fagoon and ignore it then get scared and leave. I'd prefer if agdg healed.
>>541116014What is your game?
the fuck is even happening
>>541116005>childporn>funposting
>>541116064amerimutts are up
>>541116062my game is the one im making which just so happens to be the game made by me
>>541115492Settle down, Shodanon. No need to seethe over Russians, this isn't /int/.
>>541116167Nigga I post here 24/7 and if wasnt for Americans this place would literally be dead. 3-6am EST is the exact same amount ot shitposting except the post count drops to near zero per like 5 mins.
>>541116120what is my blud wafflin 'bout
>>541115492Not reading all that. I'm happy for you or sorry that happened.
>>541116167I'm sure there's a mountain of mind-numbing nonsense that explains the who and why, but I don't think I have enough time to read the lore. I think I'll check out the links in OP and ask again later. why is it my hours
>>541116120yes?
>>541116302What?
>>541103774impressive if AIugly if not
why do we hate gamedev?
>>541116053They need to fuck off, and so do you. 4chan has always functioned as a self-filtering ecosystem. If fagtroon is enough to scare you off, then you do not belong here.>>541116275>no gameI accept your concession.
Here's a typical Fygoon schizo
>>541117815bevy xisters we are getting exposed....
what would the be the first step to healing this general
>>541117510Who said anyone is scared? Suck my dick from the back, fag
Hey everyone,Longtime lurker, first time poster. I'm really happy to be here!!! *waits for applause*Thanks, thanks. So anyway, I was reading through this thread and thought to myself, "Gamedev? I thought this was a gamedev thread. But the only devlopments I see are schizos trying to play each other!! Those retards think the thread itself is a game! What morons"*audience begins to roar in laughter*Settle down, settle down. So anyway, some new poster starts chiming in asking about where should they start. And you know what I tell him? I told him, "Make pong"*audiences starts beating their chests and yelping like monkeys*Hahah, right fellas? If he spent even a second reading through the threads, he'd realize that none of us are game devs!!*audience starts throwing their hats in the air and climbing the seats. cris tries to do a backflip but the dummy botches it*Thanks everyone, I'm here all week!! And you will be too cus we're stuck here forever!
>>541117923Kill all zoomers in minecraft.
>>541117923Corrective rape
>>541117923step1: everyone gets a free gf
Nuke the shitcord and the threads will heal instantly.
>>541118063>>541118106can we just sit down and be geniuine for one second and have an honest discussion about what we could do to heal this general?
>>541117923give me a million dollars
>>541118187I'm being 100% serious.
>>541118152CHADgoon the ravager did that, i saw him....
>>541118187Okay Pepeposter. I like you, so I'll respond genuinely. We talk about game dev
>>541117923Ban brown people.
Everything in life I do to get an alt hobby/artist gf and nothing has worked so far. I'm starting to think I should have just gone into finance so that a fake one would like me for money at least.
I have to program a hashmap in C tomorrow. I have no idea how to do it but whatever, my game needs it to store assets in memory without duplicates. I guess I'll add reference counting too so they get free'd when no references remain. I suspect it's just a binary tree but you somehow hash the key first.
>>541118187just make a game and post it
>>541118389and canadians
>>541118389Brazilians are brown. You need to leave.
>>541117815>Fygoon having another tantrum
new controversy for timmy just dropped...
>>541118389And chinamen and japs.
>>541117923Forced tripcodes tied to a game. If you don't have a game your posts are marked NODEV and filtered by default.
>>541118458i do that as much as possible albeitthe only reason im not saving this general daily is because nobody cares about the stuff im working on right nowit's 90% refactoring and 10% generic mechanics that exist in almost every similar game.
>>541118438not necessarily a tree, you can just have bucket lists where bucket id is the hash masked, mask size should depend on total elements based on heuristic, rehash entire table when heuristic is trippedlook at lua's source code for an example
>>541118682The solution to avatarfagging and namefagging is to... Namefag? Can some explain the logic here?
>>541118716nice, see look at this, it's a good post, informative and inspiring
>>541118187>actually discuss game deveven if that means talking about other games for a lot of the time>post more progressdont even have to respond to progress its nice to see>stop humoring the schizoseven if people arent directly replying to people like fygoon just talking about and bringing him up so often keeps him coming back>poster ID attached to a postsome boards have this already. wont totally end samefagging and endless shitposts but it might help reduce it>bring back the unique posters counter at the top and bottom of threadsgetting rid of that was a mistake
>>541118389this but unironicallyonly brown people will disagree
>>541117815>bevyWhy do people use that meme engine?
>>541118187The real answer would be adding country flags and thread IDs. But this will never happen, obviously. This place is and always has been nothing but a dumpster fire, and the trash will keep burning down until nothing but cinders remain.
>>541118149>gf
>>541117815Typical nodevy drone
>>541119060No IDs are bad
>>541118716That's the real problem. Anyone who is able to make frequent new posts about their game isn't making a real game, and anyone who is making a real game isn't able to frequently post about it.
>>541118389This+trannies
>>541119060>>541119183yeah bro i think we will be needing to save this general ourselves without hope of cooperation from janitors, schizos, OR the non-schizos who repeatedly swallow baitpostsi used to just reply to bait in the 'cord instead but since this new meta of screenshotting 'cord posts started i've tried to stop doing that because it just feeds into the schizo cycle anyways
>>541118721Interesting, thanks anon I'll look into it tomorrow.
>>541118438C++?
>>541117962I was there too, I cockslapped cris
>>541118716This is the only game in the entire nu-agdg that i would actually download at the moment. it has actual gameplay and it even does things that make sense like hitting walls properly and there's no retard subsample filter or gay filter and it has SKELETONS like come on. what is everyone else even doing like get outta here. this is what i'm talking about. this is the good shit. you can put this on a CD and give it a cool installshield wizard and sell it in 1997. ye
>>541119183We tried a thread on /int/ once. It was dead on arrival.
https://x.com/0xFrisk/status/1964447421142094276this could be your fate in a few years, lock in
>>541119549What about C++? I program in C99 standard.
>>541119512>the cuck ladder
>>541117923>>541118187What would>healingentail?And why would you want the general to heal?
>>541118458i post my game
Every cute art grill is either a lesbian, or dating to a business owner while claiming to hate capitalism. It's rough out there.
>>541119695Im 5'11 though
>>541118458no thanks, I see what happens to people that post their games
>>541119353>Anyone who is able to make frequent new posts about their game isn't making a real gamenodev NODEV DETECTEDdemo day submission MISSINGdaily shitpost MISSINGdiscord account NONEXISTENTcorrective measures TAKENpsyops DEPLOYEDestrogen ADMINISTEREDnodev status CORRECTED
>>541120125what happens to people that post their games?
>>541109490>if steam doesn't ban AI games it will be flooded with so much shit that natural page views from steam will be 0 and the search will be functionally uselessCan't Steam increase the cost to publish game there? 100 dollars is too little.>>541110472>GTA, Baldur's Gate, Stardew Valley, Terraria, XCOM, Civilization VI, Max Payne, KOTOR...You can't play this on phone, there are no buttons and sticks, nothing.
They get cancelled.
>>541119353This just isn't true lol. I have 14 hours available to me a day that isn't work or sleep. That means even if i dev for 8 hours Id have 6 to post here.
I can't help but feel getting into game development right now might be a mistake, as I think the entire industry is going to eat shit so hard you may not even be able to buy hardware within the next 5 years.
>>541120461>you may not even be able to buy hardware within the next 5 yearsyou don't need it
How can I get someone to donate 150 dollers tomme so I can finsh my game??
>>541120461Why would someone need 2030 hardware to run your shitty indie game?
>>541120461so your either making a game targeted for hardware that isnt available, and/or your target audience is people who dont own a pc yet? bold strategy
>>541118682>can't even tell anyone to kys under threat of cancel>nodevs still anongreat plan nigger
>>541120616what do you need it for
>>541119795imagine coming into this thread and instead of people arguing about schizo drama they are arguing about why a particular game is good or sucks and what they would have done differentlyimagine if you could ask a technical question in here and have a good chance of receiving a good answerimagine if we could get even a quarter of the people who reply to schizos to stopimagine if people felt safe to post progress in here without worrying about something stupid like being cancelled4chan is a one-of-a-kind community. you send a message, and people read it. it doesn't get swallowed into an algorithmic vacuum because you don't have enough followers or it wasn't engaging enough. there's very little social hierarchy to speak of (Though admittedly more in agdg than most of 4chan) so ANYONE can just show up, post game, and get some feedback. I have never found another gamedev community on the internet that is like thissure a big proportion of the site's users are sub 80 iq, racist and/or pedophiles but the whole point of the site is that everyone is welcome here. you just have to take the good with the bad
>>541118716Pogofag, why are you a pedophile monster who likes to project onto others?
>>541120370When was the last time you actually dev'd for 8 hours instead of just shitposting for all 14?
>>541117923ban f*goon on the spotno more avatarfagsevery progress post, no matter how insignificant, gets (you)sdaily raffle for fanart>>541120228some nodev schizo can target you if you're not nice, it happened to some successful devs>>541120724It would be pretty handy if there was an option at the creation of the thread to choose ID/noID option. I bet ID would be much more civil, but then again we already have 5 progress posts on 700 no progress posts, so people would just choose to either post progress or shitpost all the way
>>541120683You misunderstand. I see a trifold problem. 1, people at large prefer watching streamers. To get them to actually buy hardware, you need to make shit accessible. If you buy hardware right now at the ludicrously inflated prices, even top of the line, it may be obsolete within 3 years because of how bad optimization is in the AAA space. So getting into PC stuff is just a fucking mistake. It's easier to live vicariously through streamers. So the entire industry is going to contract, and it may bring back shit like OnLive where you play games that are on a 5 second delay, funneled through a datacenter that processes everything. So the AI datacenter problem will become a games datacenter problem, and consumer hardware just won't be made anymore in the face of failing sales. It's not that the hardware to play MY game won't exist. It's that NO hardware may be available. The entire well may go dry.The way things are going is unsustainable.
>>541120843Commission musixs
>>541121145>some nodev schizo can target you if you're not nice, it happened to some successful devsLike what you're doing to Shodanon for saying Fygoon is not the guy making the shitposts?
>>541121002>imagine if you could ask a technical question in here and have a good chance of receiving a good answerYou can. Any reasonable and specific technical question typically gets several good responses. If you aren't getting good answers, then your question is most likely shit.
>>541121167start a business that refurbishes e-waste and old office PCs and sell them to people.market them as an indie gaming PC and include your game pre-installed
>>541121120Yesterday
>>54112139290% of those replies are just me pogodev solo carrying the thread
>>541121145am i being targeted by schizos? i have posted progress, is it too late for me?
Be the change you want to see.
>>541121167Consoles
>>541121629depends, are you on the discord? devs hiding on the discord are much more viable for schizo meltdowns>>541121356nice projection f*goon, check first point >>541121145
>>541121356If you leave this thread would improve by 75%.
>>541121607More than half of the questions in this thread are some Godot-specific bullshit.
>>541121950im not on the discord because i dont have a discord account
>>541121971Which is hilarious because godots documentation is fantastic
>>541121145>>541121950>>541121965this schizo control freak is just batshit insane, he called me fygoon multiple times
>>541121002>schizosi put on my they live glasses and see the word "problematic" insteadschizos are just people you personally don't like, and the people you don't like are just people better than you. 4chan is engulfed in a mass delusion about being a noble savage while in reality most of you are pathetic losers and unable to build the utopia you describe. nobody can feel safe to post progress without being cancelled because the greatest threat of the cancel comes from (you).>you just have to take the good with the badgive me one rational reason to put up with you. i've done that for over 5 years and got fucked for it. the expected value from posting here is negative and the pool of suckers has ran out, deal with it.
>>541121950>>541121965>Censors the name "Fygoon"Ok, Zemsta.
>>541122135As some other anon pointed out recently, beginner friendly does not mean idiot-proof.
>>541122350I'm not sure I'd call any engine beginner friendly
Well, this explains why Pogofag is a pedo. Good to know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YUaf_q_k1kthis guy has never made a good game or a game played by more than 20 dudes yet here is talking about what you should do, im so sick of these fake /g/ eceleb guru faggots being gamedev adjacentkill yourself shartey troonatori
what's stopping me, legally, from just looking at synty packs and recreating them, with some variation in blender
>>541121002that's adorable, frogposter. now point me to all the instances of the "good" in this thread. I am sure you'll be giving the progressposts the only (you)s they got today.
>>541115212post her nudes
>>541122225here f*goon, you insist on using the same name for your avatarfags. Please fuck off foreverhttps://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/filename/IMG_8198.png%20/>>541122272check pic rel and ask yourself why some retarded adhd mutt shows so much in the archives
>>541122487'cord is literally a lgtb safespace to run away from agdg chudsdont you know this already? their main admin "liqorice" is literally a mtf transformer
>>541121145>every progress post, no matter how insignificant, gets (you)sNo. This is the cancer that kills /agdg/. Every retarded cris-tier kenyan helicopter dev thinks their trash is entitled to (You)s.
>>541121002>you just have to take the good with the badThis only works to a certain degree. Once too many dogshit posters accumulated they permanently lower the quality of a thread or board and start drive out normal users. This been a recurring theme in 4chans history so it seems like there is really no fixing it until the site is completely run into the ground.
>>541118716will u let me counter him with a MACE to his plated face?
>>541121002>they are arguing about why a particular game is good or sucks and what they would have done differentlyBut this will not fly with many developers, including major yesdevs. They see any criticism, even criticism that was made with sincerity and with pure intentions, as a potential threat. And some would argue that these yesdevs would be right. And for some yesdevs, this is their livelihoods at stake. Whether I or you or others agree with it or not, systems like this are more or less at play here.Money is involved here. Sometimes a lot of money.>sure a big proportion of the site's users are sub 80 iq, racist and/or pedophiles but the whole point of the site is that everyone is welcome here. you just have to take the good with the badSome things are more important than oneself.
>>541122717I like cris posts, at least he's genuine in his insanity
>>541122693im not fygoon you mentally deranged freak, keep proving him rightnice bob pic tough
>>541121145>I bet ID would be much more civilthat has literally been tried on 8/v/ and it resulted in devs being defenselesswhy else do you think i'm telling everyone to stop engaging with 4chan at all and focus on purely exploitative shilling, this is a civilizational problem, you try to do this like it's still a white man's internet and you will be meat.
>>541122261i dont really care if you post progress. that's your decision. i just hope you will post genuinely about your gamedev related interestsi think the rest of your post is disengenuous. fygoon's existence makes the thread worse and that's basically a proven fact
>>541122907Yes, but at least he has the self-awareness that he's a lolcow and embraces it. Most cris-tier retards are being completely sincere.
>>541122907Cris doesn't bother anyone or have meltdowns. He's extremely easy to ignore if you even know how to recognize his posts
>>541119512insane someone made this unironically and redditors ate it up>>541122496why dont you like... just leave a comment saying that on the YT instead of blogging here.........
>>541122916Watch as the schizo calls you "Fygoon". I can see why Shodanon was talking about leaving these threads.
>>541122487>>541122707Is this real?
>>541122487Why there are so many twinks itt
>>541122896yeah maces usually have a type/penetration of crush/2 and most armor has 1 maybe 2 crush resistanceso maces, while they do less damage than swords to an unarmed opponent will almost always deal full damage to an armored opponentthis is all design from peplat. i wasn't planning to do armor or monster equipment at all
>>541122707I did not know about that last part. lmao why is it every single Fygoon hater is a loser who keeps trying to project their securities onto me?
>>541123078>Cris doesn't bother anyoneSurely his misogyny must bother someone
So begins the damage control
>>541123137we know that you were the main shitposter in the peripeteia threads f*goon, you keep using the same names for your shitty avatars https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/image/2iQxQfMUCoN23nmf5brOJQ/>>541122916you can either falseflag, and that's on you, or you're a f*goon trying to deflect, which is on youagain.
>>541123569browns built this general, you can leave
Fagoon is mental
>>541120363>Can't Steam increase the cost to publish game there? 100 dollars is too little.they could, haven't done it yet but who knows what's to come500-1000 dollars would cut off most of the shit
>>541123620Holy shit are you taking screenshots in real time?LMAO
>>541123043i did not bring fagoon up even oncei get called a schizo daily for giving genuine and relevant advice. the population here is too brainrotten to have a 2012 tier discussion, half of them are on fucking meds and the other half is brown. you display any amount of knowledge that doesn't fit into their hugbox and they go apeshit.they literally have crippling mood swings from SSRIs they openly admit to taking and it leaks into their posts. it's fucking over, you can't fix this thread
im not ashamed of who i amyou aren't my first schizo and you wont be my last
>>541123620osur is such a catty faggot for a 36 years old slavix incel, i swear 'cord is mentally stunted even a literal kid like fygoon is more mature than youse, fucking hell man
>>541123815Not anymore. They stopped yapping.Poor Manus, though. He's trying too hard.
>>541122591Can they do anything if you pirate the assets, open them in blender, export and put them into untiy?
>>541121002A surprisingly levelheaded post from a frogposter, except for the racist part, it just flows on me like rain on a waterproof coat
>>541120363>You can't play this on phone, there are no buttons and sticks, nothing.Yet each is both on Android and iOS and have good ratings therefore they're good enough.
>>541123972i'm in my 20s and you are have NO game
>>541122591Nothing.Go ahead.
>>541123882you said>schizos are just people you personally don't like, and the people you don't like are just people better than youi provided the most obvious counterexample. that's all>>541124006well you probably have other groups of people that post on 4chan that you don't like. at least im assuming so since you are racist. but neither of us can do anything about it so there's no point arguing about it. we can just coexist in one place and not acknowledge eachother like we have been doing since the site's initial founding
>>541123706>browns>builtlmao browns haven't built anything that's why all their countries are turd world
>>541124264>>541124264>>541124264
>>541122591the anon raised by a single mother asks what's stopping him legallythe anon who had a father imagines what he would do if he was on the receiving end
its ok guys i made a real thread>>541124527>>541124527>>541124527
>>541123918/agdg/ can't be fixed. There are too many insurmountable fundamental problems, the biggest of which is the fact that: indie gamedev is one of the absolute hardest things you can be doing in life. Most posters/lurkers in this thread will not be able to make it, no matter how much time and effort they put in. This is indisputable FACT, and anything else is cope.Too many posters here refuse to recognize this fact. They are losers with nothing else going on for them in life, and so they cling onto this hopeless gamedev delusion.
>>541124163fygoon existing doesn't erase this thread and the entire site using "schizo" as the chud version of "problematic" though usually it means the reader's rotten brain ran out of attention or that the vocab was too white or the concepts too adult
>>541124634It's not hopeless. I'm a loser with nothing else going on for me in life, and I make my living from gamedev because I could never find a job.
>>541124781It's not hopeless for everyone, but it is hopeless for most.
>>541124171>>541124749your God? BROWNyour numbers? BROWNyour algorithms? BROWNkneel lil chud, KNEEL
>>541123569based
Real thread. Accept no substitutes:>>541124264>>541124264>>541124264
This planet will unironically be better off without 2 groups of people. One of them starts with J and the other one starts with T. The absolute worst is when they cross over in the same individual. Case in point, whoever did picrel.Here's a clue as to whom I'm talking about.>There once was a man from Jerusalem,>With only 2 holes but he loosened em>He cut off his balls>His dick also falls>Coz he realised they were of no use to him
>>541125207your skin? BROWNyour loss
>>541126926the sooner we enact a solution to the J question the sooner we can push humanity towards a new era of greatness
>>541125110>this hopeless gamedev delusionyour post implies it's hopeless for everyone who is a loser with nothing else going on for them in life. and if it's not hopeless in some cases (mine), then it's not hopeless at all because hopeless is an absolute adjective (like inevitable, impossible, perfect or adequate).I'm glad we could have this talk
>>541129943The thing is, I don't know you and I don't know your situation. You claim that you make a living, but for all I know, that could mean that you make maybe $100-200/mo to pay for groceries while living with your mom. What happens when she gets really sick and can't take care of you anymore? What happens when she's faced with a choice of mortgaging her house to pay for medical bills or just rejecting treatment and dying early so that she can at least leave you a home?All I can make are generalizations based on trends, and the trend for most posters here is that any game anyone is working on will almost certainly never be finished, released, and yield any revenue. The few that do get released will most likely not yield what can be considered a livable wage by normal people in your country.
