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>Midnight Deep dive w/ Ion and Metzen on the 1st
https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-alpha-begins-october-2nd-deep-dive-and-dev-q-a-october-1st-378587
>Midnight blog posts (Zones, housing, pvp, raids, dungeons, delves, transmog etc)
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-finally-releases-gamescom-midnight-blog-posts-new-systems-player-378407
>Midnight features
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24228402

/wowg/ guilds are dead, please wait Midnight.

>>541126152
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Fellowship won.
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PRIESTS ARE EATING GOOD IN MIDNIGHT
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>singlehandedly kills the entire game and destroys the entire worlo
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how many slop ocs are there?
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is this WoW's ideal UI setup for their users?

>with keybindings being 1 through = on the top row of your keyboard?
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>>541151803
J'lor taughed her well.
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Mag'har orc recruitment quest denial general!
I've been busy all day and haven't seen the thing that came out today, what did it say about midnight?
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>>541151859
yeah also pressing 9, 0, -, = on a full keyboard is good keybinding
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im too shy to ask kennie to do arenas with me...
hes gonna say no or leave soon im not cool enough for him...
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>>541152026
we are so fucking back but it's also beyond over.
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>combat addons disabled
>hekili getting nuked
>can no longer just hop on alts I haven’t played in months and perform relatively well
>I have to memorize each rotation for each class and spec

Lame actually.
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The fear of Blizz oversimplifying classes has come true. Looking through the talent changes most talents that actually gave you something to think about have all been removed or dumbed down to a generic +% dmg talent.
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Bimbo'dorei sisters won bigly
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>>541151859
>duplicated ui elements this close to each other
who the fuck designs this shit? why not just make fully customizable action bars without this cooldown tracker bullshit? blizzard is retarded
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>>541152248
DuDe JuSt UsE OnE BuTtOn RotAtIoN lMaO
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I got a new computer, I can't wait to finally get 144FPS on high/ultra in the current expansion hub and in raids
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>>541152262
OH MAMA
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>>541152390
hahahahahahaha
oh you
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>>541152262
Bimbo'dorei fuck Orcs btw
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>>541152248
>>541152373
in case you don't know blizzard added hekali to the game months ago.
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DOOMTITANS WHAT DO WE THINK
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>>541152319
First thing I thought when I saw that pic. You may as well just move your normal action bars up an inch instead of having a duplicate of it on the cooldown manager.
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>>541152507
The one button rotation is actually complete shit. At least for ass rogue. It doesn’t have banish during combat and barely uses thistle tea
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DOOMTITANS WINNING BIGLY

ADDONFAGS LOST BIGLY
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>>541152514
DOOMGODS have won and the worlo is destroyed. It's completely over. The game won't last a month after midnight release. Engagement will tank ~90% because everyone will suck ass and won't be able to play all their chars so not only will there be fewer players there'll be fewer players playing fewer characters so your queues are now 3 hours because fucking healing. :D
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>>541152445
>>541152262
where's the qos tattoos
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>>541152445
no they don't.
they fuck human blood elves and human men only
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>>541152625
I said hekali not the one button rotation.
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>>541152691
the blizz version of hekali only uses basic rotation abilities. it doesnt use any cooldowns
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>>541152529
The thing is the default blizzard ui doesn't let you hide actionbar 1 and I bet you it still wont.
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we did this btw. the discussions we've had about hekili basically playing the game for everyone? you know blizzie saw that. wowg has annihilated all the shitters in one massive anti-shitter aoe attack.
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>>541152691
They are the same thing. Blizz’s hekili highlights the buttons
The one button rotation just presses them for you. They’re both bad compared to the addon.
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I don't care about addons and I don't care necessarily about simplifying specs.
I just want my rotation to feel fun to do and not final fantasy tier 1 2 3 rotation.
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>>541152529
Blizzard UI is now developed by pajeets and DEI hires who are too low IQ to modify/expand existing elements like action bars so they'd rather just add new slop on top of existing UI with complete disregard to all UX principles.
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>>541152875
I have never used this shit. Is Blizzards version of Hekili worse than the actual addon?
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Blizzard has decided that you must play the FFXIV-style rotation, and that you will like it.

They will not back down from that.

You are free to quit at any time.

CHOICE IS YOURS.
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>>541153020
In my experience yes.
Hekili factors in cooldowns and a lot of class “tech”
Blizzards just highlights the basic damage rotation.
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>>541153149
NONONONO
THE ARENA IS ROTATING 90 DEGREES
HOW DO YOU SOLVE THIS
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>>541151827
memefox has like four but mostly just memefoxes
goldslut has two but mostly just goldsluts
pedonelf has one
there's a futaworg or two out there as well
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>WoW saved FFXIV back then
>now FFXIV saves WoW
KINO
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W-will we be able to talk about Legion Remix here when it releases?
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>>541153020
it's not even about whether it's good or not. it's about what it represents. it's about all these lifetime hekili experts suddenly scurrying out of the closet like cockroaches all to confess their gayness. it's about the fact the game has had it's soul ripped out.
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>>541153202
can confirm on this. I am not terribly good at rotations, but Hekili helps me a lot with it. The blizzard one is pure garbage compared to it.
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>>541153303
not sure what else we would talk about here.

Karesh is such a nothing patch
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>>541152831
>the default blizzard ui doesn't let you hide actionbar 1

why the fuck can't I hide actionbar 1 in combat?
defeats the whole purpose of using a cooldown manager to begin with as I have no space for it now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-cRzmYQlvQ
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>>541153303
It will be the only thing to talk about. Right now we are just shitting on all the retarded changes in the Midnight alpha.
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-season-1-mythic-full-rotation-revealed-378670

Yep midnight won
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>>541153303
>Legion Remix
whats even the point of playing if the tools I'm going to be playing with will be shut off in ~2 months?
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>>541153020
yes
hekili is significantly more robust. it is a fantastic tool for picking up a new character and being able to learn it while still doing actual content and contributing.
blizzard does not want a rotation teaching tool that good in the game, they want you reading third party websites and practicing on dummies.
>>541152875
the actual shitters are not even using hekili. i have tried to encourage the friends i play with who are bad at the game to use it and they refuse.
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>>541153469
fuck weak aura faggots in they ass
you can already tell they are beginning the arms race because they can't play the game but won't let go out of cope so they have to find workarounds.

just ban all addons. zero addons. remove the addons folder from the game's dir!
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>>541152514
DOOMVOIDLORDS WON TREMENDOUSLY
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>>541153628
This is a strange selection.

Triumvirate is awful though
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>>541153738
Triumvirate is very good you were just fucking awful at the game during Legion
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>>541152259
They want everything to be ret paladin levels of simplistic.
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>>541153628
>skyreach
lol dead on arrival
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>>541153667
>the actual shitters are not even using hekili.
this
I get top DPS everytime thanks to it and its fun to use
I dont have to keep staring at my actionbars micro analyzing what spell to use next based on procs and cooldowns
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>>541153673
Do you really think deleting the addon directory will do anything? I hate to be the bearer of bad news!

https://github.com/lichie567/XIVAuras
https://github.com/Zerthox/gw2-reffect
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>>541153893
that's what i'm talking about! the shitters will put in ALL of the effort to keep being shitters instead of just getting gud! it's an arms race!!
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>>541153673
>you can already tell they are beginning the arms race because they can't play the game
the hall of fame guilds that run 10,000 weakauras will continue to be hall of fame guilds if you eliminate all weakauras.
good players use every tool available to them.
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if u want addons jst play clssic lol
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>>541153968
it is known by everyone who is in this space that this sort of thing has been rejected wholesale philosophically on principle and your post REEKS of cope. if it was simply a matter of "using the tools" then there wouldn't be a history of instances where blizzie are having to change and reduce what the UI is allowed to do because the people you speak of are using literal hacks. extremely "does not play the game"-tiered cope.
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>>541153628
OH fuck these dungeons, I hate these ones so fucking much.
>AAAAAH, SKYREACH
MY ASS
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>be osrs player
>make your own client that adds addons like gpu support, increased render distance, tons of mechanic helpers, ui customization, and HD textures
>everyone loves the addon client to the point the devs make it an official client

>be wow player
>have addons in game since launch
>bald cockroach man says "addons bad"
>piss and moan until the devs delete addons

wow players are retarded
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>>541153628
Going to make TWW s1 look like a masterpiece.
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>>541154227
and Assman is still going to play for a week at most
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>>541154227
>bald cockroach man says "addons bad"
>piss and moan until the devs delete addons
go back
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>>541154386
asmon was /ourguy/ back in wod when he was a toxic shitbag BIG DICK DPS DOOD supporter and actually raided mythic. hes a washed up faggot casual who doesnt play the game now
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>>541154386
>Asmon says addons bad
>Addons are getting removed
>He shits on that and says removing them is bad now too
So tiresome
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>get rid of addons
>add your own as officialTM features
>they’re half as useful and two decades late

The official name plate shit doesn’t hole a candle to plater JUST DIRECTLY COPY THE ADDONS YOURSELF AT LEAST
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There is nothing sexier then a heavily armored belf with a fat ass.
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>>541154564
>get rid of DMB
>do nothing to make bosses telegraph attacks better or add clearer mechanics you can react to by looking at actual in game cues
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I don't really care about addons as long as I get stormstrike procs and get to hit the flashy button
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>>541154527
no i was emphasizing how crazy you are to ascribe the credit for all that to one rat when in reality many people wanted this and have been fighting for it for a long time. you watching too much baldo and have fallen in love or something!
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>>541151979
it was all part of his master plan
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>>541154349
Because it's literally his job
>play for week, say it's ass and show viewers why the game is shit, never touch it until new expansion where he can say it again
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>>541153628
Algeth'ar ACHADemy bros we won.
Grab ur blue buff n pump.
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>>541154584
literally builded for wardrobe malfunctions
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>>541154751
>call streamer a bald cockroach
>"you must have fallen in love with him"

retard-kun...
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>>541152630
addons were for losers anyway
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This boss was fun, idk why people hate it
>3 weeks Nexus-King prog till we get full turbo boost
Im so excited!!!

game feels so much better now that im not pushing and only raid logging
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>>541154973
it's not my fault you have low/no standards
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>A World of Warcraft divided will not survive... What is to come...
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>>541154720
sorry bucko procs are problematic
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>>541151638
love wowg anons so much!!!
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Stop begging for playable races. Blizzard is too fucking busy.
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>>541155163
Don't you dare Blizzard
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>>541155230
hahahahahaha DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!
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>>541155226
>read this
>Remember they are adding Haronir
Explain that one
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What a glorious day for DOOMGODS!
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>>541155372
>Building a race that uses or shares an existing rig skeleton, like if its an elven race

READ NIGGER READ
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>>541155226
God how I wish we got ONE new novel race in exchange for not getting velf and nightborne
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I'm not going to take wow advice from someone whos UI looks like this
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>>541155226
New lazy allied races would be fine, if you know. IT WASN'T JUST ELF VARIANTS ALL THE BLOODY TIME
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>>541155475
Sethrak could use Draenei rig
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>>541152026
niggas are being replaced by white people in Midnight
White men are protagonists of the expansion (Turalyon Arator Lor'Themar big three).
It's unironically kino and a return to chvd form
Shitpost aside, every feature announced looks way better than it did before, usually it's the other way around ehem island expeditions-artifact power etc.
I don't know how they did it but wow this was one of the best alphas since the Legion one
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>>541155619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY278K4ljWs
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>>541154584
hell yeah
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how come haronir be monks already? they have no contact with pandas. is blizzard just gonna lazily add them and say 'yeah they can be monks' and expect us to just accept it???
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>>541155589
>shadowlands
Are you even trying?
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>>541155665
>i want sethrak
>actually i want an entirely different race thats retooled to work on the draenei rig

so you dont actually want sethrak
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>>541155754
yeah
what are you going to do about it chud
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>>541155716
>Arator
>White
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>>541155769
>>shadowlands
you mean the last time he actually played the game?
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>>541155754
Same as Lightforged Draeneis can be Warlocks or Death Knights for some reason.
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>>541155804
>white father
>white mother
Might as well be called ARYANTor
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>>541155919
>Alleria
>White
Sorry chud, Arator's half purple.
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>>541155784
You are arguing against strawmen and I think that is silly goose behavior.
Using existing rigs makes sense, using them as a justification to make content no one wants instead of making content people do want doesn't make sense.
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>>541155754
>buuut muuhh looorreeeeee

no one cares anymore, go play with your tauren paladin and let people just do whatever.
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>>541155843
He played in TWW you disingenuous fuck.
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>>541155226
I just want them to confirm Nightborne DH's. That's all.
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>>541155754
A Pandaren getting drunk and somehow finding himself deep underground in Harronir land after he fell down some Titan shaft and proceeding to teach the locals the ways of a monk is the most Pandaren possibility around.
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Velf or gnome mage?
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>>541156061
for
how
long
CHUD?
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>>541156146
Void Elf
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>>541156003
heres ur sethrak bro!
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>>541156061
>ilvl 572
>B-B-BUT HE PLAYED IT!!!!!

ok dude
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>>541156091
When you use most DH abilities as a Nightborne with the glamour, you don't lose your Nightborne form, like how it happens with the Void elf glamour.
That's pretty self explanatory but yeah it's kind of confirmed it's in the works
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>>541156148
>>541156235
I accept your concession
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>>541156225
three basic bitches and a mexican
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>>541156061
Insane to call anyone else disingenuous when you know damn well he did not play it past getting level 80
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>>541156235
>>541156323
>>541156148
>>541156061
wow guys check out how much asmongold 'played' the game in TWW!!

he definitely 'played' it according to this guy!!
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The main thing I will miss with addon cull, assuming it's not added elsewhere is being able to track party cds. Large pulls around cooldowns in M+ is fun.
Assuming they design the game like Eco Dome rather then Floodgate as far as watching people's defensives go it should be fine. I don't understand the dooming. But it playing fine doesn't mean it'll be fun either. +10s are not fun because there is a .01% chance I die to anything other then a DC in them, if dungeons are created to be almost fail proof they won't be fun either.
I will say though, watching the fire mage stuff I'm not exceptionally sure Blizzard will get it right as far as buttons feeling good to press, but if you're mostly pressing
>fireball (!crit) -> fireball (!off gcd fireblast) -> pryoblast
and it actually creates a feedback loop maybe it'll be fun.
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>>541156472
So he was a delver? Based.
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>>541156538
He completed one delve.
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>Delves can't give Mythic appearances anymore
Umm what the frick?
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>>541155042
those runes are the most retarded shit ever
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>>541156626
Please understand. Ion needs to incentivise you to do M+
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>>541155716
Wasn't the private in the back also black? the black bitch's son?
kek at least could have kept that one black too but they went full apartheid KEK
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>>541156616
>>541156472
and yet he pulls more weight than all of wowg put together
he can change the game with one tweet
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>>541156707
>We want to accommodate all types of gameplay
>*Next Expansion*
>We no longer want to accommodate all types of gameplay, also we are removing half of your abilities.
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>>541156616
Isn't that the story delve at the start of TWW?
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>>541155589
That's mostly the default ui except the terrible action bars
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>>541156235
>>541156383
>>541156472
https://youtu.be/PTyl8GYgaWU?si=J642mIdYZz1f-t4g&t=15342
>hits 80
>ilvl 525
>hits ilvl 572 later on
>HE DIDNT PLAY THE GAME!!!!
How he went from 525 to 572 then?
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>>541156829
>>We want to accommodate all types of gameplay
>>*Next Expansion*
ERPChads are going to be winning bigly when Blizz takes the real next step with this.
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>world is literally ending as worlo is ending
it's all a simulation. that's the only explaination.
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why are they reworking DH wtf? the class AINT broke?!?!?? it didnt need fixing??
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>>541151638
Globohomo erp housing alley where?
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>>541156932
You're clearly not arguing in good faith so neither will I:
Kill yourself you nonwhite invasive parasite
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I've only ever used Hekili since I started playing WoW in MoP and I parse 95-100's in raids. How will we survive my fellow hekili bro's....
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>>541156995
Im keeping foxxo to myself in private, Heh...
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>dood WoW BAD
>actually your feelings for WoW are directly tied to your feelings for your mother, who most likely died due to neglect at your hand
>so any rage/anger you feel at the game is most likely due to this
>b-but doo-
>also you barely played Classic and rage quit WOTLK, the expansion you were supposed to be the king of
>go and take care of your dad
>oh wait
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>>541157150
she's mine
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>>541157150
In your dreams, foxxo's mine, he's belf coded
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>>541157150
isn't he like an old alcoholic?
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>>541157125
>since mop
You had 13 years to git gud
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>>541156630
I like it, was burning a lot of gold buying runes for mythic bc im lazy with rep farm and Im still rank 15
got 3 runes today and 3 runes after the mythic kill, so I got free runes for today and tomorrow
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>>541155716
oh I forgot about that tutorial rework, I'd say that was a waste of dev time but the characters jaina/thrall replaces were oddly annoying and arrogant so I guess it's not that bad. wonder if they replaced the mog quest rewards from there too, might be worth playing it again before it's changed.
>>541155638
I just want broken since they're pretty much normal draenei for most of their body, any other race I'd want would require a new rig and I don't see them making a dryad or hobgoblin expansion to justify it (but we all know that statement was a crock of shit to prevent people from realizing they only add their own OCs as races now)
>>541155665
I was going to say that they might as well just correct the dracthyr rig for mogs and then use it, minus wings, for sethrak but then I realized dracthyr already occupy the deviantart scalie fetish role. there's no way in hell they'll add them lol
>>541151767
cute drae!
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>>541157031
>>541157197
>tranny meltdown
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>>541157197
Did he even bother to watch the Deep Dive today?
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>>541157197
Post like these remind me everyday i'm glad to have a real job.
Because you jobless Eceleb leeches are so parasocial and obsessive it's a extreme form of mental illness.
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>Main Spec
>Favorite Expansion
>War Within rating 0/10 and why
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>>541157284
do you not have undermine rep
i sell 40-50 of those every week
i know you got a lot of alts too
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>>541157435
>posts sleepy joe
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>>541157197
why are you dunking on a fella for losing his family? i'm not an asmonfan but just on a human level as a human being i would say this is not good behavior. it's very sad he lost both his parents. i lost my daddy 7 years ago suddenly and lost 3 years of my life basically because i went crazy and it took me that long to finally start thinking straight. i love my dad. as im sure you all do as well. let the man suffer in peace. stop putting that bad joojoo into the universe.
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globofomo has so many sex members mmm
cant decide which one to make my housewife (male) .. not sure between that boipanda priest and foxxo Mmmm *smackslips*
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>>541157436
Next time use ai ranjeet
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I'm surprised at how massive Silvermoon city is in the alpha, it easily mogs every previous capital city and still haven't seen Quel'danas city which also appears to be much larger than tbc quel'danas.
Now show me where to get maid belf sexo outfit to give to my maiden bimbo'dorei in my home.
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>>541157518
Because you're replying to a tranny that has a hateboner for him because he doesnt bend the knee to trans issues.

So for him, he's their enemy.
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>>541157435
As a jobless fuckhead, I agree. I to this day, do not understand why people latch onto e-celebs who don't even know they exist.
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>>541157435
>me reading this from my house and about to go to bed for my job tomorrow
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https://e6ai.net/posts/129260
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>>541157197
Based, you upset the roaches.
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>>541157510
And i'll do it again.
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>>541157518
That person genuinely has no soul and cannot relate to other humans like you and I can. Just ignore people like that. I don't like roachman either but yeah
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>>541157518
>dude i post on 4chan but ive never ever ever ever ever made fun of someone for something bad. thats like totally uncool man... this website has gone too far...
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>>541157591
it's amazing how crazy the internet makes people to push them to such peaks of parasocialism
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>cdews team barely made top 8 in the first cup
>literally sank to the very bottom of the bracket
its so over
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>>541157284
rape
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>>541157632
Me on the left
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>20 years ago some teenagers got excited and a little horny at playing a fantasy game with muscular dudes in loincloths and hot chicks in bikini armor
>Now we must suffer through this waking, unrelenting nightmare where everything we ever enjoyed from our youth is covered in shit and raped to death in front of us
>All because some fags and obese chicks got upset that we were having fun without them
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>>541156932
>still has the same dogshit UI
what fucking point are you even trying to make?
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>>541157720
It's so damn insane, sometimes im really thankful i'm not a neet, otherwise I may have behaved worse
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Glad to see Asmongold's discord is still with us.
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>>541157518
His dad passing is sad because pancreatic cancer fucking sucks. Granted Im not that parasocial to know the relationship he had with his dad but I can assume he and his mom were divorced. I assume this because someone like Asmon ends up like that due to lack of father figure regularly and because of a coddling, potentially mentally ill mother

I'm dunking on him for his mom because I can say she most likely died due to neglect and I say that because the same exact thing happened to my grandmother because my worthless subuman aunt didn't take care of her and let the house go into decay just like Asmons house

There's also the whole him saying "she got killed" on stream then deleting the vod
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>>541157719
using previous unrelated examples of evil to justify more evil is typical radical left communist playbook bullshit. and it's cucked + childish. stop it.
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>>541157769
Where is, and I cannot stress this part enough, THE FUCKING LIE?
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>>541157851
Full please
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>>541157851
we need to free her
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>>541157851
is this femthyr in janny prison?
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>>541157863
>being childish is bad. thats why i play world of warcraft and post on 4chan
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>>541157723
Dunked by max
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Blizzard employees can be very ruthless when it comes to Asmongold.
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can you make good money herb and mining? I see the gems are absurdly expensive right now
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>>541157769
>Fags and troons and annoying ugly fat women get mad
>Take over the game and all media surrounding it
>Take over all discussion on twitter about it too
>Rape it to death
every game
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>>541157691
It's the same kind of energy as wishing ill of Charlie Kirk's surviving family. Like yeah you're welcome to not like the dude or agree with anything he says, but putting that kind of energy into the world says a lot more about the person spouting it than anything else.
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>>541157884
i wish dracs looked like this *star-eyes emoji*
>>541157953
you have to be 18 to post here

JANNIE

HALP
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It seems his existence has caused the spergs to seethe yet again...
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>>541156773
>he can change the game with one tweet
That's what happens when you go big dick dood
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>>541157884
I have her locked up, its going to be a few days.

https://files.catbox.moe/348juk.png
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>kinocademy is back

ICHISTRASZ WHAT ARE YOU DOING, THERE'S TOO MUCH LIFE MAGIC YOU STUPID H*CKING WH*TE M*LE IT COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE ME A PROUD STRONG WOMXN ADDING TOO MUCH NATURE MAGIC IT'S ALL YOU, YOU STUPID CHUD LOOK AT HIM STUDENTS, LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH IT'S ALL HIS FAULT IGNORE THE FACT THAT IT'S A GIANT TREE IGNORE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE ALL GETTING ASSRAPED BY NATURE DAMAGE IT'S ICHISTRASZ HE DID IT IT'S HIS FAULT THIS STUPID CHUD ADDED TOO MUCH LIFE MAGIC IGNORE THE FACT THAT THE HEALING TREE HEALS FOR JACK SHIT JUST STOP STOP QUESTIONING ME STOP STOP STOP FUCK YOU ICHISTRASZ I'M GOING TO KILL YOU I'LL KILL ALL OF YOU AND USHER IN A NEW WORLD ORDER OF ONLY GREEN DRAGONS HAHAHAHAHAHA DIE DIE DIE DIE LET'S SEE YOUR LIFE MAGIC GET YOU OUT OF THIS YOU PIECE OF SHIT
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>50k~ hp pools
>priests can shield 3 players for 90k
Discbros we are so back
Enjoy your moment druid trannoids
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>>541157823
Bunch’a Thin skinned losers lol
Bwahhhhh! My dad died! Wahhhhh.
Bu bu baby needs his daddy Hahaha
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>>541158018
It happens quite often.
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>>541157996
did you really interpret "being childish" as "being a underage child"? bro...
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>>541158092
Best slopper
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>>541158018
>>541158175
and that's the most entertaining thing about him. it's like watching an ant mill.
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>>541158096
BASED
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>>541158254
>being this ESL
N
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>>541158018
I think it's pretty reasonable to be upset at Blizzard for bending the knee to someone who hasn't played their game in over 5 years.
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>>541157990
That's how I felt too. I never watched any of Kirk's content or really cared about what he was doing either. These individuals are evil make no mistake about it
Try to pay them no mind and do not delude yourself into thinking they can be reasoned with
>>541157996
Y-you too...
>>541158092
Fuck yeah nice. I really like your sloppa's artstyle. Any other new ones I might have not seen?
>>541158096
God we are so fucking back. This is easily my favorite copypasta ever
WoW is so back dude
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>>541157404
don't watch him anymore but probably did, off stream or not, cus he said on some previous stream that he's gonna do housing competitions so that's gonna be interesting
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he's gonna weigh in... yes?
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>>541158092
>taking away all her gold
monster
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>>541158408
Who cares what you think? You're broke, fat, gay, and below 2k rating / below 15 M+ keys / Failing 25 man H content.
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>>541158619
No mom, no dad.
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>>541158745
Why Blizzard employees are like this?
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>>541158745
No bitches, No AotC, and You're cringe to the guild slut.
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>>541158570
>THEY'RE SIMPLIFYING THE FUCKIN GAME TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR WOMEN TO PLAY
>IT'S FUCKIN WOOOOOOOOOOKEEEEEEE
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>>541157286
>it was a waste of dev time to fix the shitty shadowlands exile's reach and remove the niggers from there and replace them with actual big name white characters
dumbo
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>>541158439
I don't post a ton on e6 but maybe that one
https://e6ai.net/posts/128978?q=user%3Aslingsting

The jannys there delete your shit if one minor thing is off.
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>>541155754
BECAUSE I FLIPPIN SAID SO CHUDDY!!!
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>>541158408
Funny thing is Asmon was really only against shit like DBM that would slap huge MOVE OUT OF FIRE text in the middle of your screen. Now we have Blizz removing all the shit that was needed to actually play your class properly.
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>>541158745
No friends or soul or white skin
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>>541158851
Amazing paws and nice ass
I shall be enjoying this, thank you anon
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>>541158408
>>541158745
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>>541158870
You can customize what buffs you track in the new cooldown manager tho?
>b-buh it's not copy paste like muh weakauras anymore!
are you a tryhard or just pretending to be one
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Seeking advice from people who raid mythic. I know not all mythic guilds are super hardcore, and I would never be interested in the upper tier ones.

So my heroic logs have been pretty good all xpac. Consistently the 2nd best moonkin in my battlegroup and top 30ish dps overall. My guild only raids heroic tho. I enjoy it here, but should I make the leap to a mythic guild next xpac? Do you guys enjoy the challenge more?
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simplifying the game will not bring in new players. nobody cares about this 20 y/o garbage. this shit exists only because it's a cult, that's it. if they eliminate all the old players in some attempt to get new players they will fail. you all did see BF6, right? GTA6 coming soon .... Light No Fire coming soon .... 2026 is gonna be THICC for gaming and wow isn't even a whisper.

they should be kneeling and blowing all of the old guard because those are the only people who are going to paypig in their store.
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>>541158570
Funny to remember people like T&E, Bellular and Nobbel commenting on this guys videos
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>>541159069
Nyo but it might be fun next expansion
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>>541159069
>Seeking advice from people who raid mythic
Then why the fuck are you posting HERE of all places???
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>>541159069
next tier GLOBOHOMO and NERUB will raid mythic so yes, prepare your ass
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>>541158408
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evil
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>>541158570
I hope he comes back for midnight, love this fat fuck
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dont let the door hit you on the way out
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>>541159118
agreed. at this point, the folks who are committed to this game have been playing for ever. tailor around them, but provide some sort of on ramp for new players who want to get into end game. The leap from leveling to end game is massive for some new guy.
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>>541159565
how do you guys find this literal who shit
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>>541159118
bf6 looks like dogshit dawg especially the campaign what are you on
also bro really tried to sneak in a literal who game, why are uncs this delulu
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>>541159674
This is the WoWhead resto shaman guide writer
Obnoxious faggot who cries nonstop and wont fucking leave
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The Brewfest mount is only once a day per account right? No point in running alts?
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>>541159749
yes, once per day per acct
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>>541155716
this cope is insane
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>>541159118
>slop, slop and slop
don't care
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>>541159793
Sorry nword but you're being replaced
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IS DEMONOLOGY SAFE?
IS DEMONOLOGY OK?
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>>541155716
>white male protags

that just means they are going to kill off characters this expansion.
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It feels terrible leveling without TW.
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Are you guys going trick or treating?
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first TP mount I've really liked in a while.
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>>541159884
say nigger you faggot
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>>541160032
>Implying I have friends
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>>541160023
Okay I'm in.
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>to all the chuds desperately clinging on to a game made by devs who hate you

why are you still playing?
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>>541160032
halloween spirit is dead
i'm 25 now
no :(
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>>541159749
Is this for both mounts or only the helicopter thing? I'm also missing the kodo
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gonna make a panhandling gnome alt that wears the sweatsuit ensemble and begs for gold in front of the Trade District auction house.
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>>541160114
>>541160181
https://x.com/AreYouGuysGoing/status/1973417031212192195
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>>541155716
>knowledge bomb about niggers being replaced by whites in the game
>y-you are le coping hehe, please don't remove niggers haha!!
Weird replies to this post
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Hello, everyone. I am creating another collage of /wowg/ World of Warcraft characters for the month of October. The theme is TRICK OR TREAT. Please dress and pose accordingly. If you wish to be included, reply to this post with a transparent screenshot of your World of Warcraft character. I will be posting a video-tutorial on how to make one in short order. Submissions may be closing soon.
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I'm making a worgen warrior male on Moonguard.
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>>541160213

All mounts
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>>541160258
Here is an image-tutorial on how to use Narcissus, and a video tutorial on how to turn a Narcissus four-layer screenshot into a transparent image. Note that certain moving equipment parts will not cleanly transition to the layer mask. Try to avoid those. If you are struggling to make your character transparent, please post both the base screenshot and the black-and-white layer mask (in a catbox link so you don't spam the thread) and I will do it for you. Do not post solely a bluescreen/greenscreen, please.

https://files.catbox.moe/p3iekc.mp4
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>>541158870
Blizzard ALWAYS overcorrect on a problem. Its consistent company wide every game has this issue. They can't just react and fix exactly what players want they always have to go 3 steps further and create new problems.

Reading through all the classes some of the streamlining makes sense while others seem like weird ability pruning, misunderstanding what makes some classes complex and classes being changed based around limitations of Blizzards new UI. The resto druid hot limit is 100% due to the fact their new UI won't have the same customization to display buffs, track or filter them so their solution is resto now can't have more than 5 hots.
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every poster should have their RIO showing before they can have an opinion
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>>541160540
going to line them up for a RIO inspection day?
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>>541160420
>resto now can't have more than 5 hots.
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>>541160258
I'm an ace fighter pilot! Yahoo!
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>>541160258
I'm not a furry, so I clearly don't fit in there.
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>>541160540
I'm 2650+ is that enough? I don't see much point in doing anything past a 10.
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>>541158439
Pretty much, I enjoyed watching his videos but I also didn't agree with everything he said. Didn't hate him or love him, he was just a dude. The people who get so fucking mouthy and uppity about e-celebs need to be lobotomized if this is how they are going to act.
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>>541160420
>>541158870
Where do you think DBM gets the information about when to show the "move" text? Here's a hint: it's the same place the addons that help you play your class gets info from. Only low IQ retards thought things could go any other way.
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>>541160716
No
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>>541160023
I can't wait to see all the new vibrant, diverse and lgbt positive characters that will replace all the crusty old white characters they will kill off.
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>>541159118
Your opinion is trash jaded old fuck
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Bimbo'doreis eating good
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Don't you guys know blizzard is adding dbm to the game with midnight?
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>>541160906
and i'm eating the best
worg + bimbo + fat'dorei
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>every single person I raid and do M+ with is considering quitting the game over the addonpocalypse and simplification of all specs.

Based thank fuck I can go back to LOTRO is this trash actually dies. This could be WoW's big moment like the one that ruined SWG back in the day with the jedi changes.
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>>541160817
kek you took the unc meme too seriously now you sound like actual boomers when watching news, jesus christ grandpa take a break this alpha has mogged DF TWW and SL alphas and it's not even close. Worlo is back, enjoy it.
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>>541160982
Fat.
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>>541160764
My kike grandfather is still celebrating the day MLK got shot.

You’re a faggot liberal in the opposite direction
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>Hekili killed in favor of Blizzard's shitty one-button rotation bullshit
Yep, I think I'm finally done with this sack of crap game.
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>>541161009
you and yourself doesn't count as multiple persons, also what the fuck are you talking about
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another day another thread without cute femthyr slop
we need more cute non lewd sloppers
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>>541161009
KEKAROOO
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>>541159729
Will they shut the discords too?
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>>541161009
people cope and say they wanna rely on addons but they're the same people who like skill expressive specs. These addon changes are made for the same people who need the game dumbed down
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>>541161189
kek get fucked shitter
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The combat/addon changes are good. You should not need addons to play a class. Period. Conversely, playing each class to 100% should not be a requirement for any content in the game. This bandaid needed to be removed.

The transmog changes are bad. No reason to make getting current transmogs so hard for the majority of the playerbase.
Elitist retards who think they are hot shit just because they have the time to raid mythics can fuck right off.
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>>541161009
I don't believe you
my 60 man raiding guild with 2 raiding teams has said nothing negative about addonpocalypse
they have only been critical about some spec changes
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playing alliance made me devolve
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it's not just over. it's meta-over.
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>>541161331
I liked Hekili because it satisfied my inner Rhythm Game gremlin. Also I never raided anything past LFR anyways.
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>>541161373
did you ever believe someone unironically shilling lotro
gramps is just out of his meds
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>>541161009
Sounds like the type of faggot I hate is leaving the game and that makes me happy. Game is fucking awful as it is and it desperately needs change, boomers will seethe and I will laugh
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YOU MUST CHOOSE ONE!
>tranny races get deleted and replaced with races of your choosing
>endgame systems overhaul of your choosing
>Ion naked dogeza on stream followed by a narrative shift to return the WAR in Warcraft (this does not change the current race implementation schedule at all)
>you must ejaculate inside every "female" working at blizzard, but once you do you get free reign over every executive decision in the company (failure to complete this task in 3 hours and your head explodes)
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>>541161496
Lotro was decent before the tranny apocalypse.
Very comfy.
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>>541161580
>tranny races get deleted and replaced with races of your choosing
Sure yeah, delete Dracthyr and let me play as an actual dragon with full armor sets and I will be just as slutty thank you
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>WoW news happens
>Doombrowns flock to /wowg/ and flood it with eceleb and the same old tired doom post images
Every 3 months we do this song and dance
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>>541161496
Let's take a look at WoW's steam charts.
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>>541161580
>>you must ejaculate inside every "female" working at blizzard, but once you do you get free reign over every executive decision in the company (failure to complete this task in 3 hours and your head explodes)

this is just impossible, unless double dipping counts
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>>541161370
difficulty levels exist for a reason, why are you such babies that you can't handle you're the reason easy mode exists
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>>541161680
i remember when it was every week because of the intense patch cycle. those were the good days.
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>>541161768
Wow. You're right. Ded gaem.
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SOVL
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>>541161680
i miss seeing these two together
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>>541161763
Why are you such babies that you can't accept that limiting 25% of the tiers to less than 1% is fucking dumb?
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the truth about ability pruning is that its good because most of you motherfuckers never click it anyway
ive been in CE guilds where i had to specifically ask mages/havocs to click their fucking raid defensives thing because those mouthbreaters wouldn't do it
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>>541161856
why? why do you even care about getting gear if youre not good enough to make use of it
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>>541161830
>bridge, stormwind
>:(
>bridge, quel'thalas
>:O
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>>541160023
if they kill alleria it would be extremely sad but Turalyon would get a giga power up right after
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>>541161875
>the truth about ability pruning is that its good because most of you motherfuckers never click it anyway
Ok prune the stuff no one likes NOT APOCALYPSE
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>>541161680
>every 3 months
Bitch people doom everysingle day pay attention troon
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>>541161875
you can argue its good to fix cluttered speclines but shit like removing jadefire stomp is retarded
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>>541161954
Transmog != gear, moron
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>>541161965
Yes.
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>>541161248
So Ion is half jewish? (((makes sense)))
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>>541161370
you can go back to old raids and get the old transmogs though. its ok to have rewards for being good at the current season of the game
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>>541162084
>25% of transmogs are for the top 1% skillwise
now youre just saying shit.
i guess you really want a participation trophy, god forbid good players get rewarded with a shitty mog and mount
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>hmmmm let’s completely overhaul our UI since we remove addons
>let’s do a legion tier pruning at the same time
>let’s also completely overhaul our entire encounter design
>all at once, alongside new expansion
>(I know we didn’t even have time for proper 11.2, shut up chuddy it’ll be fine)
Either blizz team somehow doubled when I wasn’t looking or they actually went insane
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>>541162181
Boring picture.
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>>541162505
They're going full BANE
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>>541160783
Fuck you then
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>>541162505
Raids are gonna be the same, manaforge omega and eco dome were both designed with the no-addon mentality, you will have less crutches but also specs are going to be
>less bloaty
>less tanky (less defensives)
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>>541159118
Legion brought in tons of new players. I don't see why they can't do that again. The biggest barrier to entry is the monthly fee. There are so many games to play that paying 15 for a single game is stupid af. People are complaining about xbox pass becoming 20 and that gives a ton of free games.
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>>541162505
I think this explains why TWW feels like a skeleton crew making it ever since 11.1.
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>>541161572
They didn't have to do that in vanilla because all the rotations were one button anyways.
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>>541157483
>do you not have undermine rep
nope, was only pushing M+ and nothing else, only bothered farming this rep bc Im raiding, will prob get rank18 this next reset
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>>541162186
There's plenty of that in the form of titles achievements etc.

And this change doesn't just fuck mountsmogcheevo delve players, M+ runners are also fucked, relying on 1 vault piece per week, competing with bis items.
Even mythic raiders are fucked since they'll have a hard time completing sets (and you won't get the lower diff sets unless you complete the whole set)

Getting sets on alts? Forget about it.

Tier set appearances are major pieces of "content" in this game as they define the whole class identity. Locking them behind something less than 1% of the playerbase has access to is just stupid even if you can eventually solo farm them, like 3 years later.
This won't make people raid mythics more, this will just make people play M+ and delves less.
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>>541162505
Legion tier pruning is probably the oddest thing to add to this list. Mutilating and crippling the gameplay of specs takes VERY few resources.
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>>541162505
It’s extremely funny that they rip out addons and overhaul the ui at once
I legit cannot imagine why they’d do that instead of adding the new UI before (say, right now when there’s fuck all new content outside of raid), see how things work and what the feedback is, iterate on UI as needed and then kill addons next patch if they’re so set on it
Instead they’re going full retard in the worst way possible
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>>541162730
They went an step ahead actually and made a boss specifically designed to show up how stupid can weak auras be (Fractillus)
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for being the second part of an epic three part story, it feels like there's barely any content in midnight. Compare it to legion and its depressing
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>>541162847
Sorry mythic raiders got their feelings hurt that "scrubs" could get the mythic sets.
You WILL do 8 mythic 10's a week for at least 9 weeks for myth track in each slot :).
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>>541163063
you're a good 12 hours too late for this shitpost dud, the alpha is already out and it's kino
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>>541161967
Kino.
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https://files.catbox.moe/u37pk5.png
>no more gambling addons
it's over.
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>>541162974
They could have easily blocked addons from breaking Factillus doing only like 1/10 of what they are doing
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>>541163134
>t. shill
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>>541161967
>wow killing a black coded character

never going to happen.
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>>541163175
need this but with garrosh
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>>541163190
Yes, but then you don't send a message.
Everyone saw fractillus and everyone saw how retarded weakauras can be at making you just follow the MOVE TO XYZ.
It was a genius move now that I think about it, right before the combat addon purge.
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My cynical take on the pruning is it's for making the one button thing even more effective. It didn't use DPS cooldowns and now a lot of those are being pruned so there you go cant go wrong.
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This add-on removal business is going to drive far more people away from WoW than it's getting new players to replace them, I can't wait.
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>>541163175
WHEN I SAID WOW WAS IN THE SHITTER THIS ISN'T WHAT I MEANT
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>watch the deep dive video
>it's literally AI narrating
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>>541163270
It already happened with garrosh
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Imagine being a pug healslut without cell + dbm + plater
it must be such a miserable experience, you can barely tell the state the group is is since no cell, you need to mind your positioning and which mob is where manually since no plater and you need to keep track of what all the important mobs are doing at all times since lol no audio cues for things like frontals
Enjoy trying to find a healer in a pug for anything above weekly 10
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>>541163374
did you know?
In the books...
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>>541161009
Good riddance to all of you, and I mean that. If you are so reliant on addons to the point where you actually threaten to quit the game then maybe the game is not for you.

TL;DR: Cope and seethe, addonfags.
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>>541163404
I'm a CE healer and I don't use any of that bullshit fool.
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>>541163397
garrosh was chud coded.
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>>541163404
Man you guys are going to lose it when you found out they are baking dbm into the game
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>>541163490
Based
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As long as muh Elvui works, I'm happy, I hate the vanilla UI.
Expressway, expressway everywhere
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>Removing Addons
I sleep
>Pruning gameplay
REAL SHIT
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>>541163270
>>541163397
>female, elf, girlboss
Not happening.
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>>541163509 (Me)
K I do use dbm but that's gonna be built in after being removed.
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>>541160258
I ran over several people on my felcycle to get here.
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>>541163107
>Sorry mythic raiders got their feelings hurt that "scrubs" could get the mythic sets.
i don't think this is even true. i saw zero people asking for this.
i think blizzard wants a way to pump metrics in the back half of the season and doesn't realize that people just won't bother to chase this on alts at all. the first season will be fucked to hell anyway, so the midseason patch will just be buffing healers and turning some addons back on, but at some point in S2 they'll realize their mistake.
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Haven't played WoW since legion. How's the story? Is Metzen delivering?
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Metzen really wants to kill this game so trannies can't benefit from his work anymore.
That's the sole purpose of the Worldsoul saga.
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>>541163374
It isn't tho
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>>541161967
Making Alleria evil was so predictable. Not a single iota of writing talent remains at Blizzard.
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>>541163675
A schizo mess of retcons and retcons of the retcons.
So the usual for wow.
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Is pezado coming back for mid night?
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>>541163675
least blatant bad faith post #9999
try again in a week
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>>541163612
she is more likely to get her own expansion than die.
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>>541163374
that shit really do sound ai generated tho
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>>541162974
it was a bad example because fractillus can be understood easily by a literal 9 year old if you give them 5 minutes. Needing addons for Fractillus is the litmus test for whether you should have rights and freedom of movement in society.
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>>541163509
Raid healing isn’t even remotely the same as m+ healing, you have vastly less personal responsibility, way less mechanics and second-to-second decision making and the fights are way more predictable. You assign CDs in ert and you’re good.
A single m+ dungeons with pugs has more going on than the entire mythic raid for a healie. Same for tank desu.
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>>541163675
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https://youtu.be/QE3-pplGlO8

KINO
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>>541163374
>>541163851
Could someone make a AI voice sample that sounds exactly like deep dive narrator?
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>>541163918
Thats
The
Point
Still retards tried to push and link their stupid weakaura in pugs, it's universally dogshit for the game what weakauras can do and it's a kinobomb that it's being removed.
At least you got it man.
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It was a boring day like any other in the Elwynn forest…
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Were the Haranir hinted at in previous expansions, warcraft III etc?
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>>541163675
No, it's end of the line.
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How does Legion continue to mog all these nuwow expansions?
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>>541163981
what the helly, is this dev? pres?
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>tww
>tormenting ray goes on 2 people (you know this cause the icon shows up on their bars)
>one has defensives, the other doesn’t (you knows this cus omniCC shows their cooldowns)
>you heal the one without defensives and the group survives
>midnight
>you might or might notice the ability coming, but even if you do it doesn’t matter cause you have no idea whether somebody has a defensive or not
>idk just flip a coin and hope for the best?
I’ll just go dps I guess /shrug
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>>541163851
Some of the script is definitely AI generated. It's obvious
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>>541164158
Obviously dev tard-kun

And as if the spec wasn't easy enough they removed 4 active spells from it and made them passives
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>>541163276
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>deleted cloudburst totem
feels bad man, i love cloudburst
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>>541164346
said no one ever
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>>541164157
It was the last xpac that had effort put into it.
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>they're deleting half the spells or turning them into passives
So the bloat meme was actually real?
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>>541164494
No, they just want to make every spec only press 3-4 buttons so it can work on consoles.
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which is more kino for prot warrior?
dark iron dwarf or male draenei
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But I don't want to be a dual-wielding shotgun survival guy. I want to keep being a spear-wielding bombs survival guy...
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>>541164494
>wanted them to prune slam and rend because no one fucking likes pressing these and one of them is a passive most of the time
>what got pruned was thunderous roar and avatar
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>>541164494
>>541164558
none of these happened, what kind of fabricated posting is this
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>>541164589
dorf
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>>541164494
not really people are just shitters desu
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>>541164494
Yeah it was
Why do you think they made one button rotation for
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>addons removed
>spell pruning
Classic won
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What the fuck are these images
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>>541164636
Get fucked obongo
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>spell pruning
>look inside
>buttons that shitass dps never press anyway
easy specs are gonna be easier while normal specs are staying normal and hardcore are staying hardcore. I really don't see the prune beyond muh 20 defensives
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Did they completely abandon the story of the nigger orc from tww?
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>>541164494
There is no explanation for what blizz is doing other than trying to release it on consoles
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>>541164986
People said the same about wod jej
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>>541164986
Can't wait to be locked down to 5 abilities + weapon swap, it's gonna be great
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>>541164982
yea and that's a good thing!
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>>541164661
>New Talent: Focused Power – Increases the damage of your spells by 3%.
>New Talent: Twin Disciplines – >
Increases the damage and healing of your Holy and Shadow spells by 2%.
>New Talent: Painful Invocation – Increases the damage of Shadow Word: Pain and Holy Fire by 10%.
>New Talent: Mindpierce – Increases the damage of Mind Flay and Smite by 15%.
>New Talent: Strength of Soul – Increases your Stamina by 4%.
>New Talent: Spiritual Guidance – Increases your Intellect by 3%.
>New Talent: Dark Enlightenment – Increases your Haste by 3%.
I guess I hallucinated that
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>>541164157
speaking of legion and legion remix coming soon, does anyone else still think the priest storyline was so out of left field?
WoW has a horrible problem when it comes to controlling their biases, that's why we keep getting windrunner and elf crap, but when it came to the class storylines in legion everyone but priest got a fair shake. even monk, the evoker of the time, had a fairly simple but still fine story about saving their guys and making a super brew to beat up the bad guys whereas priests were explicitly shoved into the cuck chair due to the devs being obsessed with paladins.
I'm just glad the warlock storyline was good
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>>541165090
>forgets about 10 new talent points and apex talents
it's gonna be simple until you level to 90
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im honestly hyped for affliction
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>>541164982
Faerin? No.
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>>541164494
Can someone tell me how Brewmaster rotation will look like?
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>>541165216
Is Demo looking fun?
I heard Affliction gets a dreadlord and we don't and I'm jealous.
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>>541163484
seriously, is that GoT youtuber even real or is he AI. his shit always pops up on my feed
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I know… I know
I’m sorry
It’s just that I’m not buying flopnight
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>541165265
no demo and destro look fucked
they took out too much and didn't do much
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Did doomtroons really waited until everyone went to sleep to spam their low effort shit.
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>>541165380
>no demo and destro look fucked
NOOOOOO I JUST WANNA SUMMON HORDES OF DEMONS TO FIGHT FOR ME
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>>541165393
Sounds like you are upset about something.
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Shills are going into overdrive today. Someone in chat asked zepla if she was being paid by blizz and the dude got insta b&
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>>541165265
Your new minion cap is 3. Instead of an imp army and a bunch of one offs like tyrant you get three imps and your skills change how they look.
No I am not joking
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>>541164494
pres evoker and rsham are ruined tbqh
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>>541151638
Where the fuck is Sylvanas??
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>>541164735
Unironically, I’m considering just playing classic instead. Fuck it, they’re taking away a bunch of fun buttons so I may as well play the version that lets me fucking enjoy my classes.
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>>541165485
just say "worlo le bad heh" or something, no need to make up stories
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>>541165496
Who at Blizzard thought this would be a good change?
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>>541165430
they capped demo imps to 8 or some shit they stay around longer and do more dmg but you no longer have an army
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>>541163641
>i don't think this is even true. i saw zero people asking for this.
Unfortunately those creatures do exist. I'm familiar with a bunch of them in my guild that get genuinely offended when shitters get stuff they 'worked" for.
They're exactly the type of people you'd expect them to be. Mid 30's, dull life with no achievements, wow is their personality.
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>>541165485
>Someone in chat asked zepla if she was being paid by blizz and the dude got insta b&
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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The removal of addons is giving me anxiety bwos. I'm going to play so much worse.
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>>541165265
>3 imps
>rip vilefiend
>rip bombers
>rip dstr
>rip grim felguard
>half the talents turned into bland +5% damage to X
it’s ogre
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Where can I see actual talent changes without looking at wowhead's bugged icons, youtube videos?
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>>541165706
>>541165635
Unholy it is then
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>>541165602
Cool story bro.
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We're all playing uma musume, right?
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>>541165721
nvm found one
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>>541165774
Speaking of Unholy, it's probably getting cucked in PVP, can't wait to have all these small ghouls frost novaed.
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>>541165808
wtf is that
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>>541165774
I haven't seen how unholy actually plays but something tells me you won't have a super huge army up at all times, mostly rotating and making old ghouls rot for buffs and dmg
also mm hunter is summoning undead shit but we dont know how many
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stop posting the wow characters as toilets you sicko
wtf is wrong with you
are you 12?
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>>541165861
I think it's a cat.
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I thought they were going to slowly kill off combat addons, not wipe them all out at once in the prepatch lmao.
Feels like a huge risk, if (and let's be honest, when) they fuck it up they're in deep shit.
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>all those changes remove stuff I like and expand on stuff I dislike
>niggers and daddy issue fags somehow keep being in the story
Think I’ll hit up lemix for one last month of sub and then that’s it, I’m clearly not the talent audience anymore
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>want to put my player house™ in nagrand(draenor)
>can't
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>all the comments posting their purple/orange parses like "TANK YOU I COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOU!"
Rest in piss and fuck you hekicucks, time to either learn to play or gtfo like the shitters you are.
Midnight is certified KVNO
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>>541165196
All of which are more passive dmg % increases that don't affect how you play or think about your spec.
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>>541166059
Why we can't put our houses in WoD zones?
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>>541166120
>time to either learn to play
Half the skills are being deleted
even fucking ret is being simplified further
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>>541166120
Hekili wasn't that bad, now weakauras solving mechanics and tracking enemy defensives in pvp? that shit is lame. PvP is gonna be interesting to see and experience to say the least.
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>can't find a single midnight class, spec, or hero tree i want to play or that interests me
Didn't think I'd run into a second Sneedolands situation where I'm considering outright skipping the expansion...
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>>541166315
As long as you can still see specific player buffs/debuffs on nameplates pvp will be salvageable.
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>>541165825
Ok unholy is actually kino now. Phw
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more toiletposting
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>>541166120
I'm a 100% Hekili user in recovery as of today. It's not in my addons since a couple hours ago. I'm never going to use it again, and that's a good thing. It's like you said, I either step up and dedicate actual effort to play this game or just fucking quit. I choose to try and learn the game.
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All the competitive players are leaving because of the pruning and addons changes ... How will our guy max aka mrnig1488 survive without thousands of parasocial slobs donating to him?
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Use your slop powers for good, not evil.
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lol
great apex talent lmao
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>>541166467
He moves to Fellowship like rest of the competitive players.
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>>541166512
>stops streaming mazedshit after 2 days of #ad like everyone else
mazedship is even more shit in terms of gameplay than ffxiv, zip it rat
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>>541166467
Yes I am sure all the "wow is my personality did you know i am good at wow?" players are really going to quit.
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>>541166482
Basically all of them are like this. Just extra damage stapled to a specific spell.
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>>541166645
They're all going to classic to raid throne of thunder and siege
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I don't even give a shit about the add-on fiasco, but If the game actually ships pruned and lobotomized into some Calishitter trans version of Hungry Hungry Hippos where you bop like 4 or 5 abilities on your action bar with one or two offensive CDs only like this, it's going to be one of the most hilarious development crash outs the live service gaming world has ever witnessed.
I fucking double dog dare them to do this shit lmao. Please kill WoW FASTER!
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>>541166625
Yeah because open beta ended. Everyone is waiting for early access at this point.
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>>541166475
what do you mean by this
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>>541166757
>open beta ended
you dishonest little rat, it was stuck for half a week at 1k-2k viewers after the wave of sponsor streams ended, shill a real game dumbass
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>>541166752
Out of all the intentional huge shifts they've ever made to the game, the addon purge has the highest chance of legit killing it.
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>>541166745
Yes I am sure they won't be back in Midnight S1 and they are really going to quit this time for real.
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>>541166837
FF14 buckbroke you pal
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feralbros it's not looking good
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>>541166752
Why are you--and so many others--OBSESSED with making WoW a complex game that takes an associates degree to play?

Yeah, every class will have 4 spells and 2 defensives, so fucking what? Blizzard wants people to play this game without overloading them by the time of their first M+ dungeon.
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>removing combat addons and simplifying class kits so it's easier for new players to jump in and play
>don't add a solo queue for M+ so they can't get into groups anyway
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>>541166869
>the addon purge has the highest chance of legit killing it.
At worst you'd just fuck off all the high end players.
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>new players
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LITERALLY CANT PLAY WITHOUT WEAKAURAS TELLING ME WHAT TO DO
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The funny thing is everyone acting like this doesn't play the game hardcore enough where it would matter
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>>541166752
>t. dbm/bigwigs/wa/hekili user
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>>541167029
>don't add a solo queue for M+ so they can't get into groups anyway
Solo queue M+ wouldn't fucking work. How the hell would you even get tanks and healers to queue for it? Bribe them?
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>>541163404
none of that shit is allowed in arenas and healers manage there fine
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>>541167130
>game is a convoluted mess even veterans who come back after a couple of years struggle with it
>this effectively steers away any new players
>"why do you care about new players, there aren't any!"
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>>541164494
>>541164986
Only other explanation is they misunderstand the complaints about complexity/difficulty of certain specs or that its being done due to the addon removal and their new UI not having the ability to track information the way players need it.

Just as an example Dev Evoker is looks like its having smallest number of changes. But they are removing shattering star as they think the spell interaction of a button press that applies a debuff that increases the damage you deal for a short period is too complex and requires players to manage and track. So their solution is to remove the active spell and turn it into a passive that procs so that Evokers have no ability to play around it as an active ability.

I also think this decision came real fucking late. Looking at Arcane mages abilities they gave new particles and animations too THIS PATCH are being removed.
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>>541167130
XIVfugees are already moving in
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Making an new horde hunter but I already have a level 80 hunter.
Is something wrong with me? I just like skelegirls
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>>541166752
>Games with only 6 buttons are Dead on Arrival!!
>I mean just look at the most popular competitive games today, they all need 30 buttons to stay fun !
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>>541166374
skill issue
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AHHH A COMBAT ADDON FLEW OVER MY HOUSE AND BOMBED THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL
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>>541167241
It's 2025, blizzard is seen as a shit company. No one wants to touch their games except for the ultra mazed sunk cost like us
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>>541167217
you are a special kind of retard

yes I'm adhomming you because you aren't worth an argument
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>>541166467
he won't
unironically this is going to kill the race
echo and liquid WILL disband shortly before 12.1
and then all of the changes will get rolled back
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>>541167290
>based retard in charge of informing newcomers
Blizzard really shot themselves in the foot allowing any gicky gacker who completed the most basic content to be a "guide".
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NOOOOOOOO STANZILLA PLEASE SAVE ME FROM MY OWN STUPIDITY
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Here it is.
Black and blue.
Read it and weep.
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>>541167103
Id put money on a healer and tank shortage being a big problem come midnight. Lots of healers and tanks aren't going to deal with having their tools taken away on top of some pretty extensive spec reworks.
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>>541167290
FFXIV LOST...
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>>541167028
the game has been like this since BC lil bro please pipe down, lots of abilities and full actions bars with farmable consumables is the only way to make tab target combat interesting, everyone will just quit and we can finally be done with this shitheap god I can't wait
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>>541167469
When are they magically going to start hearing that M+ sucks and should be removed from the game?
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>>541167469
This is true tho. Every single spec relies heavily on sims to figure out how their shit actually works
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>>541167552
Damn bro that's some weird reach and cope, go to sleep unc.
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>>541167309
is it too late to get into league?
theres a bunch of league autists working on a private server for the early seasons on /v/ and i got strong fomo vibes from it
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>>541167401
Step out of your bubble sometimes.
Most people aren't mazed deep inside the social networks and know/care about all that shit.
They don't play the game because it's outright hostile to newcomers, not because they disqualified some dude because of Hong Kong the other year or some tranny dev had a tirade on bsky the other day or something.
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>>541167552
Time's change.
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All that customization and we can't still select and display our pronouns
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>>541165889
It lost apoc which sucks but they got rid of WOONS so I'm happy
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>>541167130
a lot of live service games are running into the same issue with not being able to get any new blood into the game. They are all trying to avoid become the next Fortnite which is rapidly losing players as the next generation of kids have zero interest in it.
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>>541167469
Well, they got that right.
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>Unhinged is being removed
One of many good talents getting shitcanned in the Midnight purge. Remember in Nerub'ar Palace when it "broke" and Bloodthirsts cast by Unhinged could proc reap the storm, wouldn't consume bloodbath, and would cleave if you have meat cleaver up? That was a lot of fun. Shame they're removing so much stuff instead of making it better. Wish they would refine things instead of remove them.
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>>541167309
>his big gotcha is an isometric elo pvp ladder based game
I raise you British Croquet!
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>>541167028
because half the stuff they are touching isnt complex. did fury warrior really needs 6 abilities pruned?
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>>541167650
>is it too late to get into league?
No but you really shouldn't.
The last private server project got shitcanned by Riot.
If you will really self harm in that manner at least play jungle
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>>541167885
see>>541167469
and YES
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>>541167731
troon rp is not a combat addon, it's unaffected by any of the Midnight changes, you can be a fucking faggot all you want?
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>>541167130
>WHY WON'T OUR 15$ MONTHLY SUB + 70$ YEARLY EXPANSION GAME ATTRACT NEW PLAYERS?????
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>>541167906
well i was just talking about the live game
i have no context to know how the consecutive seasons "ruined" the game, they dont have an actual server running yet, its just some leaked game files
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>>541167778
There are millions of Fortnite players.
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>>541167650
League hasn't been good in over a decade anon, do not engage with the cocksuckers known as Riot Games
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>>541168003
>i have no context to know how the consecutive seasons "ruined" the game,
Well as someone who does, don't bother.
At the very least wait to see if they add WASD movement which they are currently testing.
But again, if you do play then main Jungle so you can solo carry.
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>>541167986
>$70
It's $140 + $15 monthly sub
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>>541166458
Are you setting up cooldown manager? I'm thinking of doing the same but I also want to hold onto Hekili until its final breath too.
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>>541167947
W H Y
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>>541168156
I should set it up, but I haven't yet. I got to find a YT video to show me how to do it.
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>>541168137
JG doesnt solo carry anymore from what I've heard
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>>541168241
Nothing does but it is the closest you will get.
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>>541168137
>what if we add perfect bot kiting to all players with WASD, this will attract new players for sure, no penalties at all either!
Something ain't right up there
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>>541161580
>>tranny races get deleted and replaced with races of your choosing
I'd happily replace every Elf and Alliance race with Ogres at this point.
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I found a neat spot in Kul Tiras.
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>>541161580
>Ion naked dogeza on stream followed by a narrative shift to return the WAR in Warcraft (this does not change the current race implementation schedule at all)
This one, I hate buddying up with the Horde and seeing them reduced to a toothless hound.
Where is my hated enemy of old?
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I genuinely fucking hate the arms warrior changes.
>new mastery is just vers 0.5
>rend still exists and now deep wounds is also a talent
>avatar gone
>bunch of talents i liked are gone
>slam still there with more talents focused on it ( we really want you to please press slam)
Yeah cool skullsplitter has fucked off forever so I don't risk the TWW S1 build coming back but christ.
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So I’m thinking the move is to set your house in an ally neighborhood even if you’re horde and just use warband to give your horde characters access
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>>541153640
NTA but mop remix was unironically a good time. Fast enough&Short enough. Legion remix will probably be over-balanced and boring but if it's like mop remix should be fun for a bit.
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If Blizzard was based they'd rip the entirety of the ending of 12.0 from Visions of N'zoth.
Turalyon dies.
Alleria is void tainted.
Alleria throws her bastard into the void to get voided.
We put her down.
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>>541155638
I find it funny that they've given so many elf variants instead of high elves that people wanted on ally side. No point doing it now but it's insanely silly that they went for void elves etc.
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>>541167469
It sounds bad but it could be good.
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>>541168757
Remember the "oh there isn't enough high elves left so playable high elves wouldn't make sense!"?
And then we got void elves which are like 10 people in total.
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>Blizzard tried to be anti-addon in Dragonflight and made the worst raids in history
>Raids only started being good in TWW when they eased off on their retardation
>Immediately go back to the anti-addon crusade and buttfuck the game in the process
>Except now they're ruining class design en masse
I honestly can't tell what's funnier: if they're doing this for a console port when consoles are dying and they won't play it anyways, or if they're doing this to listen to the anti-addon dumbfucks who quit WoW in Icecrown or watch Asmongold, who also don't play the game and never will
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>>541168665
If Blizzard were sensible, they would release expansions in chronological order such as MoP, WoD and Legion, rather than this strange approach of "doing this and then returning to a plot point after a few expansions".
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>>541168312
And then you proceeded to ruin it by parking your dumb worg ass in it
Horrible dog
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>>541160949
Pure sex. Pandaren tempt me into resubscribing more than Midnight
>>541161009
Addon bloat is shit and ruin the game but removing them will also lead to pains adapting that time will help work out. Imo far from the biggest issue Worlo is facing.
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>>541168868
I think it's Dragonflight team that is responsible of Midnight rather than Blizzard going back to it all of the sudden.
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I love the people that defend the mass rape of WoW's class design in Midnight as a good thing because WoW was "too complex"
the immediately out themselves as not having played the game in probably 10 years but still being bizarrely attached at the hip to it
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CD Manager doesn't display the key the spell is assigned to? What a piece of shit.
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>>541169048
Class design people are the same expac to expac
You can tell because the Warlock dev has some kind of mental deficiency and he tries to lobotomize Demonology every other patch while also forcing filler synergy talents into all 3 specs that nobody wants
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>>541169089
Why have a melty of something that's gonna be reverted by the time it's in beta
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>>541169089
Post logs, io score, arena rating, achievement points, mounts, titles, pets, transmogs
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>>541169232
how about you gargle my nuts instead
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>>541169089
>says this
>doesn't prove that he plays the game either
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>>541169182
And the rogue guy.
He is clearly still turning up for work maybe once a year.
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>>541169121
>CD Manager doesn't display the key the spell is assigned to? What a piece of shit.

Please do not disparage what our hardworking DEI tranny devs have been working on, please sir
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>2016, watch my class get simplified.
>2020, watch my class get simplified
>2025, watch my class get simplified.
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>>541169232
6/8 Mythic, 4 orange parses 1 purple parse
3k io I don't push that shit
PVP is a minigame
cheevos are for the mentally ill
the only mount I need is my Legion class mount
I don't use titles
I don't use pets
I change it patch to patch
>b-bbbut you should post your character what if you're just making this u-
No.
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>>541169401
Nothing has ever been simplified other than Ret, stupid.
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>>541169409
>doesn't interact with the game
>thinks her opinion matters
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how quickly will I be able to rip through the legion remix content? working from home these next two months
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>>541169484
Not at all, cause they're time-gating it.
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>>541169409
lol i'm 8/8 mythic all orange 100 parses btw
3500+ io
multi gladiator
all achivements in the game
all rare mounts collected
all the pets
all the titles
played every single patch since vanilla

but I dont feel like posting my character or anything
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>>541169484
wait until December when they activate catchup mechanics. unironically.
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>>541169518
>thats a lot of words
literally nothing compared to some gw2 tooltips
even OG has tooltips more complicated than that (but not mechanically)
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>>541169518
I stopped playing WW after legion. Hate what they did to that class.
>crit
kek
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>>541168295
It's gonna really bring the core design flaw of League (0 turn rate) into sharp focus when you no longer need hands to stutter step as a ranged.
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>>541168485
I feel the same but for all the WW monk changes
>apex talents demand you stack crit when NOTHING ELSE on the entire fucking tree wants crit
>storm earth and fire removed
>diffuse magic fused with fortifying brew so you'd now have to pop your major defensive if you wanted to use it to remove magic effects
>doubling down on slicing winds instead of removing it
>strike of the windlord and whirling dragon punch is now a choice node
>all complexity removed from the talent tree. everything is just +dmg to a specific ability
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They should've launched the collector's bounty again instead of Legion remix
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>>541169089
You're both going to realize that you're so dependent that you can barely function without them.
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>>541169809
There's no way wow players are this retarded with addons
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>>541169518
Ask ai to write addon that turns these leftist meme tooltips into a greentext
>be in combat
>get this buff every 7 sec
>20 stacks max
>get 2% crit during Weapons of Order per stack
>being out of combat gets you 10 stacks
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>>541168868
At this point I put it down to Holly Longdale.
She's probably seen the current state of classic and trying to figure out a way to get the classic boomers into the retail game for when they ultimately are forced to drop support for classic.
Her only solution is to tell them to dumb the game down
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>>541169121
I've always just played with my action bars closer to the middle of my screen to keep track of cooldowns. Idk why people stick a bunch of weakauras there when you can just move your bars up a few notches to keep track of everything.
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>>541170019
My guess is - from my own experience - that they go with the default mindset
>main bar
>attached to the very bottom of the screen
>has the most important rotational abilities
>other bars going upwards closer to the centre of the screen have situational stuff and even food and shit
So instead of moving the main bar to the centre, they slap some shitty ass weakaura as a dupe of that bar.
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>>541169927
People have been vocal about slowing the game down a bit and simplifying some of the button bloat in retail. But Blizzard can't just fix that they have to do a whole rework and gut classes in the process and then remove addons.
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So what're you rerolling in preparation for Midnight, /wowg/
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>>541169563
cope tranny
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>>541170326
Uninstall wizard
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>>541170326
Nothing
Playing the same class I've been playing for the last 15 years, my hunter
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>>541170326
making all the gold I can
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>>541170326
Too early to say, simple as.
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>>541170326
Uninstall wizard
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>>541170315
>"People" have been vocal about blah blah blah
WoW's combat is its only redeeming feature. anyone who wants any degree of overhaul to it systematically is a retard who doesn't play the game but is bitter that it got more complex than TBC (when they were in their prime)
These "people" all got blown the fuck out when classic proved that the old expacs were products of their time and bore the fuck out of modern players
>Button bloat
Name the buttons you think were bloat.
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>>541170315
NTA, but I will genuinely be surprised if the game feels good to play for the first season of Midnight.
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>>541170326
I'll stick to my Worgen Paladin™
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>>541170326
Demo lock, looks pretty good now, other classes maybe not so much from what I've seen.
Too early to make any conclusions on class design, most likely a bunch of these prunes are gonna be reverted in a later phase of alpha imo
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>>541170326
why would i reroll?
clearly, pala was years ahead in class design these last three expacs
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>blessings of the BRONZE
>is not a haste buff
throw it into the trash

thank god they gave shamans +20% auto attack damage on top of mastery though
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>>541170326
Nothing, pretty sure I am skipping Midnight.
No I'm not mad about the addon changes because I really don't care about that, it just still doesn't feel interesting to me.

And I'm not that thrilled about the class changes too.
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>>541170326
No clue. I'm not really that interested in the expansion though so we'll see. I usually end up playing it after a few days of launch though so I'll prob play it but hopefully I'll have enough to do that I don't bother to even buy it with my gold.
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>>541170326
Thinking Enchudcement rn
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>>541170505
Spriest has Shadow Word Death, Shadow Word Pain, Halo, Void Form, Void Bolt, Shadowy ghost dots, plus the temporary void volley, void blast, etc…it’s really bad rn.
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>>541170637
>>541170701
If you're gonna samefag doompost then you have to switch up the typing styles a bit
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>>541170326
whatever is OP as 2nd main
ret paladin as true main
still farming all 13 elite sets

the wheel of the maze... spins again...
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>>541167469
They are but that's good
The combat is fun enough to engage with and complexity adds to it
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>>541170582
>Demo lock, looks pretty good now
Either baiting, retarded or a cripple with 3 working fingers
t. seething demo
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>>541170734
kek the retard is so obsessed, the shrek running gif fits so stupidly perfect
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>more debuffs and windows please
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>>541155226
Ion my man, there is one very simple solution to that. Add official and safe jmorph functionality to the game so players can swap/edit models without 3rd party tools and without risking being banned. If someone wants to play arrakoa or sethrakh or ethereal they will be able to, and you won't have to do anything to implement and support that. It's a win-win situation.
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>>541170326
finna spin the wheel like always and play that
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>>541170804
dood dont you like casting fel sinister strike 5 times so you can cast your fel rupture as a finisher!
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It's the alpha day 1 gotta use those brakes a lil
I'll just wait whenever it does an 180 in the beta like most of the time then decide on class
Simple as
Enjoying the story bits and the characters that are showing up so far though.
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>>541170326
Sylvie or Vigour
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>>541170610
>get blessing of the bronze buffed as priest
>reduces cooldown of leap of faith
apparently this is my "major movement ability"
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>>541170971
These AI posts need to fucking stop
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>blizz: we’re removing addons but will first develop our own versions and we’ll have both for about a year to make sure we got it righr
>also blizz: we’re removing everything the same day our half baked ui releases
I mean, there’s a lot of games I own I have yet to play so I don’t really need to play worlo…
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>>541171093
Filter it dumbass, it's bait
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>>541170734
The fuck are you talking about dude?
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>>541170762
Complexity does not do anything but gatekeep new players into becoming regulars.
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>>541171093
What's ai about not going to draw any conclusion on classes that change every day in alphas.
slop would be the first one to shit out half baked conclusions on things it doesnt know about. Take your meds
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I made a Dark Iron warlock and she looks basic as hell. Do I stick with her or cast her into the fire
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Addon controversy was the big red herring. They're wholesale nuking every spec into bm/ret in preparation for the xbox port. Considering combat is 99% of the reason why anyone would play retail in the year of our lord 2025 this is a massive dumpster fire in progress. And every grifter streamer has to pretend it's totally awesome and cool while cringing inside as they play their destroyed specs live lmao
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>>541171172
>eight minutes in MSPaint
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>>541171193
You can play the game with a literal “press A for Awesome” functionality provided by blizzard. You can get aotc and portals this way, maybe even 3k.
is a literal sibgle button rotation still too complex for you?
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We get it bro you're mad that your spec is changing slightly you can stop spamming it every 5 minutes.
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>>541171264
Way more people will be crying about the class changes once we have more alpha footage or beta access. Right now not everyone has read through the massive mess of patch notes to fully comprehend just how hard they are raping specs.
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>>541171264
>They're wholesale nuking every spec into bm/ret in preparation for the xbox port
but why
xivtrannies have like 30 usable buttons on many classes and it works okay
outside of raid healing you could play worlo on a gamepad without too much effort
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>>541171193
Anon they could make every class rotation be 112233 and idiots will still just press 1, walk into a fire and die and cry about being kicked from groups
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I don't know if /wowg/ is happy about the combat change but I am and you should too because it makes WoW an RPG again and not a fucking esport. Wasn't it all you always wanted?
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>>541171378
XIVs most popular plugin also reduces their button bloat down by like a dozen buttons.
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Sorry for a stupid question guys but last time I played wow back in wotlk.

Are guilds cross server? Can I join a guild which was formed on different server and has all guild members on a different server than mine, and still see these people in game and run dungeons or pvp with them?

I was thinking about joining a guild first time ever because I live in east asia but play on us server and loneliness is getting to me badly so I don't want to limit myself to only my server when looking for a guild as I guess it will be very difficult to find people who play in my timezone
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>>541171253
post her
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>>541171378
>xivtrannies have like 30 usable buttons on many classes and it works okay
XIV having a bunch of buttons is honestly reason enough to try and pare some of this shit down, that game is straight dookie to play.
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>>541171402
It's WAYYY to early to say "hm yes this is the final product", no one considers closed alphas as that, revert some prunes maybe but keep others and it's gucci
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>>541171279
>literally playing the game atm but go ahead
I'm sure this big corporation loves your defense of them. It'll trickle down anyday now... anyday!
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>>541171423
XIV`s hardest content is also maybe as hard as a mythic+ 5
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>>541171440
basically everything on retail is now cross realm and cross faction.
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>>541171172
don't engage these retards
they shill for blizzard for free
they are worse than catholic zealots during the inquisition
they literally piss their pants if your post isn't exultant praise for this pile of shit
t. regular addict that has played the game and frequented the general(not as long as i've played mind you) for over a decade and regularly shits on this pile of garbage
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>>541171517
Your dead jap game lost
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>>541171478
Do they ever actually 180 from Alpha? It usually seems like once they get a design choice in mind, they fucking stick with it no matter how much people bitch and how negative feedback is.
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>>541171440
>east asia
Dang that's a beeg timezone diff, i guess you can hop on some aussie guild or korean guild if you are lucky, they do exist
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>>541171598
They only change stuff on alpha/beta if Max complains about it. I'm not joking.
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>If you are so reliant on addons to the point where you actually threaten to quit the game then maybe the game is not for you.
If you got used to automatic transmission in a car, you drove like that for 20 years because it's just so much more convenient and pleasant and in general is a big quality of life improvement and then suddenly car manufacturer removes it without your consent and forces you to drive manual. It's a massive downgrade, why would anyone accept it? I'd just buy new car with automatic transmission. In case of WoW I'll just play something else that doesn't take away my fun for no reason.
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>>541171598
Torghast is the single handedly biggest example of that, it did an 180 for the worse tho.
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>>541171598
Never for fundamental things. It's genuinely too late for them to change course.
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>>541171561
i dont play that pile of garbage, never have
that doesn't mean im not going to shit on MY lazy fuck developers every chance i get
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>>541171395
>>541171290
It's not just about the button, guys. It's about setting up the game for the next 20 years. Making the game approachable not only in Midnight but for all coming expansions.
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lmao xiv buckbroke lil tranny
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>>541171671
>>541171691
>me when i make shit up
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>>541171682
The good 180 from SL beta was conduits originally getting destroyed every time you resocketed one so you'd have to keep farming for more.
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>>541160258
Ordinarily when I give a few characters you just pick one from, but this time I did something that does contextualize two characters.
If you don't want the two, I'll figure something out for one.
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>>541171769
Blizzards already in fucking Irvine, how much further west does Medivh expect them to go?
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>>541171598
By the time the game hits alpha it's 90% done. There will be missing mobs and quests but the core game is there. Go compared alpha footage of TWW to what you played on live. What you see in the next few weeks it's what you'll get for the next year.
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>>541171514
Thanks good to know

>>541171601
Yeah 14h of difference because I am a fuckin idiot and fell for meme in life and I am stuck here. That's why I am looking for English speakers who live around this area Australia new Zealand etc I just want to talk to and play with someone who speaks English and our schedules align I haven't played a video game with another human for 3 years

How people look for guilds? Should I just shout on trade chat during "my" peak activity hours?
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wowg will turn into an housing tranny discussion general
lmao
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>>541171863
This. Blizzard devs are constantly getting put to work on future patches so once the current shit is anywhere near finished it's essentially abandoned.
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>>541171863
do you unironically think anyone falls for your shitpost bro, we all play the game here, try doing it in xitter or reddit.
>>541171817
KEK that was fucking diabolic
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>>541171913
>Yeah 14h of difference because I am a fuckin idiot and fell for meme in life and I am stuck here.
English teacher in Seoul?
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>>541171852
>how much further west does Medivh expect them to go?
they should go west until they all drown in the sea
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>>541171517
I've barely played this game over the last 10 years. It's been a month here or there maybe every 12 to 15months. This current couple of months is the most I've played probably since then. My problem is that my buddies always end up playing and I end up not having shit to do and it's just gold to buy this stupid game again. MMOs suck. Hopefully I can get a job again and learn to touch grass. Online communities suck ass now.
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>>541171971
Well, it'll be a short walk.
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>>541171423
plogons are way more popular amongst the people playing on pc. you need a lot more effort to get dalamud working on consoles and most people don't bother, even raiding sweatfags
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>>541171817
>The good 180 from SL beta was conduits originally getting destroyed every time you resocketed one so you'd have to keep farming for more
what were they thinking
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>Dozens of different Eleven races playable, often redundant (Void Elves)
>All the iconic troll races aside the Zandalari are stuffed as Darkspear cosmetics
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>>541160417
Does narcissus allow me to use different race model for a screenshot or is it just fancy and bloated dressing room?
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>>541171673
>>If you are so reliant on addons to the point where you actually threaten to quit the game then maybe the game is not for you.
As a pug healie: the game without addons is indeed not for me and I will not be buying midnight
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>>541171957
worse salaryman in finance sector in jap who made a mistake of marrying locally
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>>541172120
All of SL and most of BFA where designed by people who genuinely only wanted the players to suffer.
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>>541172198
oh god
oh fuck
are you at least hired to be the loud american in the room?
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>>541172198
huh I thought asians self-segregate into online games pretty hard, in that japan plays xiv, china plays wow and korea plays their weird homegrown goonslop and starcraft
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>>541172198
anon... what board memed you into that
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wtf? what happened?
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>>541171598
Not really, there might be really rare cases where it happens but often what you see in the alpha will stay all the way until release and final patch of the expansion where they "listen to the community" and make changes that should've been there since alpha.
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>>541172190
healing has never been fun, and healing hard content without addons is quite possibly the most masochistic activity a wow player can engage in
there's a reason healbot was a thing since earliest vanilla
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>>541172279
>>541172319
>>541172350
I want nothing to do with asian people or play games with them is why I am looking for English speakers. I don't have any friends here and they hate my guts in the office

Since my situation is fairly specific should I look for a guild on trade chat or try reddit or something?
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>>541172159
>All the iconic troll races aside the Zandalari are stuffed as Darkspear cosmetics
as things should be
allied races were a mistake
making skin color entire race is retarded
and they can't even be consistent about it, blonde hair draenei is allied race, but eredar are skin color option for normal draenei, makes zero sense
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>>541172474
>>541171691
>>541171863
are you mentally well? lying this much isn't healthy especially about something minor as a videogame.
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>>541172474
>and final patch of the expansion where they "listen to the community" and make changes that should've been there since alpha.
examples from tww?
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>>541171824
>Trolls wear the proper version of the Nelf armor
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>>541172584
I made 1 post 17 minutes ago and you've been seething since fuck off cunt.
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>campsites
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>>541171817
>>541171682
Nta but that's cool to hear, thank you
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>>541172706
He often gets angry when someone says something negative about Blizzard and then lies about things.
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>Faint hope to go back to healing resurfaces after announcement

Look up the so called bloat removal and its even more of your power baked into passives. My buttons go down from 40 to 38 at least. Yeah still playing dps fuck that
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>>541171463
i dun wanna
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>>541172512
>healing has never been fun, and healing hard content without addons is quite possibly the most masochistic activity
sounds like you got filtered. stick to being a dpsissy
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>>541172573
The easiest way would be to go and find an aussie guild then, just do both and pick what offers you get
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Don't be sad your addons are gone.
Be happy you don't need them anymore.
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>>541172901
>healslut talking shit to DPSchads
watch your clever mouth, bitch
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>>541172967
Only had dbm and a couple of buff weakauras tracked, still parsed a few oranges.
it changes le nothing *banshee voice*
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>>541172943
Thanks man really appreciate it! Will try Aussie guild
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wowowawa
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>doing karesh wb
>at 15% or so
>we get phased into a shard with it dead
>have to start all over again
What.
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>>541173049
>*presses X on your group application*
maybe next time
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>>541173049
>your application to +10 gay circle jerk has been declined
Sorry mate maybe the next group will accept you.
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>>541173128
I believe phasing has been the biggest disaster of WoW. I still remember the first time I ever experienced it in storm peaks in wotlk. My friend wanted to help me with a quest he came to me on the map and we couldn't see each other for some reason. I had a feeling they will develop this technology and phasing quests is just the beginning.
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>>541173049
High level healing is the hardest thing in this game by a fking mile
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my rdruid friend who refuses to even talent skull bash will be happy at least
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>>541173343
>High level healing is the hardest thing in this game by a fking mile
sure, but at least it's also the least rewarding
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>>541173128
That's why you join a raid.
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>>541173184
>>541173285
haha you wish healtranny
I have tank friend to play with and it's us who decline healer bitches
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>>541173128
oh, they TILL haven't fixed that yet? lmao this game is cooked
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>>541173439
Hang on I thought you said you were a DPS chad, not a tanks pet.
You are giving us very mixed messages here.
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>>541171931
>People will have fun playing the game and discuss the game in the game general
no.... this cannot be happening...
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>>541151638
Now that the dust has settled and TWW is OVER. How do YOU rate TWW, /wowg/? Better than Shadowlands?
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got the mountie
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Admit it, Midnight is gonna be kino. I have my doubt too but this deepdrive changed my minds.
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>>541173439
>my tank boyfriend is the only reason why i get any groups lmao take that healtranny!
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>>541173829
Well, I quit SL after 2 months.
As for TWW, I've been subbed since the early access and still playing.
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I think Midnight needs some other kind of unique feature. Right now everything feels kind of safe.
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https://www.twitch.tv/desiheat
desi look HAWT today (no pun intended)
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>>541173832
>deepdrive
I'd like to see Ion deep drive off a cliff
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>>541173829
>karesh is pretty much korthia
tww was fine for the first two patches but with the exception of a decent raid, 11.2 is an abomination
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>>541173956
We just say anything on /wowg/ nowadays huh
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>>541173960
>drugged out jeeta/gipsy
never post that shit again
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>>541173956
That is exactly what everyone thought after the gamescom reveal. After 2 xpacs of "playing it safe" it's extremely disappointing to see a 3rd.
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so with the new frost DK, do i need to save my empowered rune weapon for specific line ups or windows? or can i just send it on cooldown?

i noticed its off the gcd, can i macro it to something? or is it too specifically used?
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>>541173829
>first two tiers had horrible raids but good content
>3rd patch had horrible content but a very good raid

I'll take it over SL and DF any day of the week
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>>541173960
>desiheat
she has room temp IQ
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I can't do shit without my addons, how fucked am I?
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>>541174203
You should go back to playing an inferior version of the game then if you need the help of addons to play this game for you
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>>541174203
>play dps
>nothing changes
>play tankoid
>nothing changes for 90% of the playerbase
it's only a problem if you roll a healer, in which case you might as well uninstall
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>>541174263
what addons do need as a healer?
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>>541174318
not him but I need
>updated raid frames
>RAID FRAME ONLY mouseover casting (this is big)
>cooldown manager that can be customized (I use TMW)
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>>541174081
why would you want a smart/high iq gf? she needs to be submissive
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>>541174318
cell or something like that is pretty much a baseline. knowing who is targeted by a cast that will go off in 3 seconds is great for triage
audio cues and plater help immensely to keep you aware what's happening when you're staring at the bars
autistic timer tracking (like spell icd) helps most on a healer since it allows you to know when to ramp etc
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>>541171402
I'm usually on the doomer side, but this direction is better. Now they just need to make the classes fun to play.
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>>541173956
You're kind of fucked if you don't care about housing.
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>>541174263
my main is a resto druid and I dps as feral, without my addons my dps drops by 40%.
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>>541173336
phasing blows but is also one of the only reasons the servers haven't melted
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>>541174468
I care about housing. There's stuff I'm genuinely interested in in Midnight. But it feels like something's still lacking.
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>>541174501
1. you're bad
2. feral loses most of its complexity in midnight (not exaggerating, you just have a single skill that snapshots left) so I don't think it'll stay 40%
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>>541173962
We hate Ion now? I thought he was /OurGuy/, we meme him but just for the lulz
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>>541173829
Fun the first two months, very boring patches, 3/10.
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>>541174428
>why would you want a smart/high iq gf?
they don't need to be smart, just don't be dumb
otherwise my kids are going to turn into mutt retards
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the only thing that can save midnight is if mythic is puggable
if I can log in and say today I want to raid and then raid then wowa wonned
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>>541174651
you have heroic and normal if you want to pug
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>>541174581
Anyone and everyone who played Shadowlands now has a burning hatred for Ion.
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>>541174318
Grid2
Clique
TellMeWhen
all gone in Midnight
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>adios addons
I can finally be acknowledged again and stand out from the crowd, just like in the old WoW where only skill allowed you to shine. Now, anyone can be top kino by using combat add-ons.
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What do I level next
>NE Druid
>DI Warlock
>Vulpera Hunter
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>>541174737
you wont
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>>541174728
ITS
FUCKING
OVER
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i still don't understand what does combat addons mean?
i imagine all the mythic setup shit like telling you when to soak and stuff is gone
but like can i still have a sound play when something happens e.g. i cap my holy power? or when boss casts some ability?
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>>541174737
delusional nigger, you will never stand out if addons held you back
also addons were in WoW since beta in 2004 and people always used them to shine, properly utilizing addons was always part of being skilled player
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>>541174716
Ion and Metzen are the brain and the soul of WoW. I will always respect them
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when should i guild hop?
my guild is just starting nexus king prog
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DOOMTITANS MY STRENGTH IS RETURNING!
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>>541174848
Everything that reads the combat log is gone. I'm not sure how this is hard to understand.
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you just know
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>>541174710
too easy
2 boss raids will help alleviate mythic lockout bullshittery
specs will be easier to play
boss mechanics will be easier to execute
melvins can't get mythic appearances from delves
everyone WILL be a mythic raider
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i really hope to see all the nigger
>im a god gamer but i wont play with addons
come and play in midnight
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>>541174753
>>NE Druid
Comfy
>>DI Warlock
Hot (trendy)
>>Vulpera Hunter
based
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>>541174651
Considering they just said today that are locking off mythic sets to being only obtainable from mythic (or burning m+ vault for mog i guess) to preserve the prestige.
They aren't going to be nerfing mythic anytime soon.
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>>541174940
so i guess raidframes, buff/debuff windows and nameplates are gone because it reads combatlog?
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>>541174848
no you can't
combat log is gone, literally gone from the client, you can't even see it in chat window
addons can't see what's going on in combat
addons can't communicate with each other
addons can't read chat

only thing addons will be able to do is to take existing blizzard ui elements and rearrange them, but only if you're not in combat, basically your UI becomes static default basic UI with zero non-blizzard modifications when you enter combat

>>541175074
yes
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>>541174982
you do realize its blizzard we are talking about right?
they will delete all the addons that they currently balance the game around and they will still balance the game around the deleted addons
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You know that WoW will be available on consoles for Last Titan. Excessive simplification of a video game is ALWAYS aimed at console players. I trust the WoW team because they are professionals and, unlike others, they still want to preserve the essence of WoW, but in the end, consoles always ruin the game.
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>>541175074
Probably all broken.... But I'm really not sure how they're going to block some stuff. Like in the current UI you can just hook into the actual resource/cast bar on the unit frames and call a function every time the size updates. So theoretically you could just keep checking the size of parts of the UI and get information from that. They might make it cause taints or something in Midnight. They were already locking stuff like that down since Dragonflight.
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Remember when Ion announced the addon purge and retards here thought it WOULDN'T be coming in Midnight? LMAO
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>>541175103
>>541175249
>>541174940
bro its so fucking over why did i preorder midnight
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>>541175249
What's the point of hooking into other frames if you won't be able to update any of your frames in combat?
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>>541175249
it's trivial for blizz to cripple addons they don't want working so unless you run some strange homebrew with 20 users I wouldn't count on it existing
you'd probably be better off running a high performance visual parser on your entire screen and automate actions out of the output - blizz can't really prevent that or even know that it's happening. but this is VASTLY more resource intensive to run and difficult to create
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>>541175350
Be glad you don't need them anymore.
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>>541175350
>why did i preorder midnight
Housing in two months bro
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>>541175249
it's why they are adding this "secret values" bullshit, addons won't be able to see shit
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Have the addon creators even gotten access to alpha yet to start seeing what does and doesn't work?
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I've played other MMO's that don't have addons but people have made 3rd party overlay programs for tracking stuff like group cooldowns and what not.
I can see that happening with wow.
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>>541175441
housing is for fucking faggots i will literally never fucking touch that shit
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Im happy that WoW is finally dying.
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>ffxiv: addons can do literally anything, you just can't talk about muh dps meterinos or you get banned by an actual flesh-and-blood gaymaster
>wow: with addons you can, idk, track how many mounts you have
it's kind of funny
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>>541175451
Yes, I got access.
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>>541175451
ion said they invited bunch of addon makers to the alpha yesterday
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>>541175451
>to start seeing what does and doesn't work?
well the new api isn't even created yet
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>>541175504
disingenuous
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>>541163490
Based anon, brainlets needing honks and subway surfer gameplay for them to pay attention and use their brains.
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>>541175451
Hekili guy has already closed up shop so I assume they know what's up and are not retarded.
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Is every class actually 4 buttons now
This is grim
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>>541175451
No because Ion personally killed every big addon creator with his bare hands.
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so how do you tell if a nigga pressed kick in pvp without addons?
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>>541175612
what's disingenuous about it?
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>>541175368
>What's the point of hooking into other frames if you won't be able to update any of your frames in combat?
What do you mean? If you can check the width of a boss HP bar in the boss frames or see when the boss cast bar shows up you can do many things

>>541175449
Yea, but the Blizzard frames still have to draw information from the secret values. If you have any access directly to the frames like you do now you can extract some info from it.
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>>541175663
I feel sorry for DBM guy actually, he seemed genuine and DBM was his sole source of income because maintaining it was literally full time job.
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miss me?
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>>541175664
just play the game boo
just vibe it out
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Guys.... I actually.... liked pressing buttons....
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>>541175474
It's me, aka you from the future, and I am here to tell you and the thread that you are a lying bitch!
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>>541175687
there's a reason they've gutted weakaura's functionality over and over again over the years
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>>541175728
Yet it's still gonna be the most downloaded addon for all the different classic versions of the game.
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>>541175728
Maybe he could get a real job now and actually work for a living.
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I only press buttons because addon told me so but...
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>>541175664
You'll go back to not knowing because you were never supposed to know. Guessing when someone was going to use their kick and trying to juke it was a part of skill. If you have an addon telling you if someone has an ability ready that's literally cheating. You've been cheating this entire time and are so lost in the sauce you don't even realize the extent of the cheating.
You have to come to terms with having to play the game like a normal person again without cheats.
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>>541175664
You have to actually use your intuition
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>>541175814
>there's a reason they've gutted weakaura's functionality over and over again over the years
this is the first time blizz "guts" WAs
other than that it was more like removing a few APIs and some half hearted bullshit like private auras
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>>541175931
>other than that it was more like removing a few APIs
the fuck you think they're doing with midnight dumbass
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>>541175779
>joins Fortnite
>it starts to fall off
icky
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>nobody knows how to play without addons
It's so funny
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>>541175915
>seeing an information already available in a game is cheating
nigga what
you can use default ui to see that
make a new chat tab, put a combat log in it, add a combat log filter, set the filter to only show enemy players and set it to only track non damage spells, and you will see when they use kicks with a timestamp, so you can know if it's on cooldown or not
addons just made seeing this information easier
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>>541175982
they're removing practically everything that has to do with combat shit
surely you see the difference between "in this season we have 5 mechanics across the entire raid that addons can't interact with" vs "half the addons ever published will no longer work"?
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>>541175915
not talking about tracking the cd. how do you tell if you juked someone. in older expansions it's easy to tell because you can see the rogue do the kick animation, warrior pummel/shield bash, etc
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>>541176015
It's actually hilarious. So many monkeys are so conditioned to playing with training wheels or god mode enabled that the idea of playing the game genuinely is terrifying to them.
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>>541175982
blocking addons from seeing ALL combat events is not "removing a few APIs" retard
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>>541176015
That's the result of 20 years of WoW!
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>telling whether the enemy kicked = playing with god mode
ok
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delvecels should be forced to M+
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>addon that draws a circle around my cursor during combat is gone
IT IS SO OVER
I'M FUCKED
SENILEBROS WHAT DO WE DO
>>
enter
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>>541176090
>make a new chat tab, put a combat log in it, add a combat log filter, set the filter to only show enemy players and set it to only track non damage spells, and you will see when they use kicks with a timestamp, so you can know if it's on cooldown or not
Okay so just do that then. What's the problem?
Oh would that maybe be a little harder to track with your eyes in the heat of combat than a huge pop up with a blaring horn sound? Yeah I think that's kind of the point. You have to play manually.
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>>541176262
>3 different shades of gold
Can he please just leave instead
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>>541176281
>You have to play manually.
Humans are tool using monkeys, thus I will simply write external software to parse that information for me
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>addon that disables right click during combat is gone
FUCK ME I'M GOING TO BE TARGETING RETARDS IN TIM BUCK TOO EVERY TIME I MOVE MY CAMERA
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>>541174203
depends on weather the wow team actually follows through on their promise to make combat mechanics more clear and the game overall less punishing.

i played ff14 all the way up through raids without a single addon, and it works because the mechanics are clear and easily marked, the fights are fun and dynamic but also not impossible to understand or predict, and there is a lot less pass or fail instant death twitchy mechanics and heal checks.

if wow can reign in its hyper lethal, hyper random, visually vague and unpredictable combat design and lack of clear indicators for things like busters, tank swaps, stack and spread, and so on, then it shouldnt be a problem. but if they keep making encounters as difficult and random as they have been and just strip away the addons, then its going to be a learning curve for sure
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>>541176281
Yes, it would be harder to track, my point is that it's disingenuous to call seeing this information in more user friendly form 'cheating' because it's available in the default UI. Addons are not pulling some secret data from the server, addons are not hacking the game, addons just show you what the game allows them to show you. Addons are pure quality of life improvements.
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>>541176423
>and there is a lot less pass or fail instant death twitchy mechanics
90% of raids is pass or fail instant death mechanics, most of which tend to spiral to the death of the rest of the group as well
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>>541176262
nice name lol
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>>541176423
every mechanic in xiv is also a giant ugly red square on the ground. I'd rather WoW be harder to read mechanics than be a giant eyesore.
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>>541176475
I am an addon simp but you're being a disingenuous faggot now
there are things like spell icd that are impossible to track without addons. they clearly go beyond just qol
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>>541176249
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8nda_Psbjo
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>>541176475
I'm not changing my opinion. I don't give a fuck whatever semantics you want to pull, would you be happier if I called it playing the game on easy mode instead of cheating?
Doesn't matter, same concept. You're bypassing bullshit to make the game easier. Addons are cringe and for faggot retards.
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>>541176301
the lion does not concern himself with the shades of gold
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>>541155716
Cope.
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>>541176596
as you may or may not be aware wow doesn't use windows' default mouse pointer
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>>541176619
90% of this is shit you'll never have to think about. Whatever retarded addon this is has baited so many retards into thinking the game is more complex than it actually is.
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>>541176693
I just want my abilities to do damage without needing 10 billion passives running at the same time
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>>541176773
Go play xiv if you want every button to do the exact same thing.
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>>541176584
>I am an addon simp
I am an addon dev and I am not being disingenuous
>there are things like spell icd that are impossible to track without addons
that's true but not quite
API doesn't return icd, if addons are tracking it it's via starting a stopwatch when they detect a spell proc and keeping it for a set time, manually entered in the addon because API doesn't return any data for the icd duration
it's literally the same as if you manually started a default blizzard ui stopwatch after seeing a spell proc and waited for x second (after checking wowhead for what x is for this particular spell)
again, addon is just a quality of life improvement in this regards
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What's the most fun ranged DPS these days for you guys? I've been curious about what I'd play if I returned to the game one of these days. I last played melee DPS and it was fucking awful a lot of the time just for the purpose of seeing anything. I kind of don't want to ever do that again.

Can I get some opinions on what ranged you find fun and what sucks shit?
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>>541176693
Its not about the addon u retard. Its about ur abilities only doing damage if 12 moons from alternate universes allign
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>>541176910
Yet if you took the time to read all those talents that addon is showing you then you'd know that isn't true.
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>>541176619
this shit all boils down to
>if aimed shot not on cd and (focus > 35 or lock and load) then PRESS IT end
rest is just meaningless fluff
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>>541176903
have you tried ret paladin? it's a nice mix of wanting melee abilities but not needing to be right on top of the enemy's ballsack
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all dps casters should have instant cast spells in Midnight
be equal as melees
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>>541176693
Nta but
It's about the bloat.
>actually need to pay attention to one buff
>press button
>2 rows of buff appear among other passives and redundant 1hr class buffs
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>>541176903
BM hunter just because you can always move around
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>>541176903
frost mage and spriests are pretty fun
mm hunter is good as well
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>>541176845
>it's literally the same as if you manually started a default blizzard ui stopwatch after seeing a spell proc and waited for x second
That's the second example you've come up with now that would be 100x more difficult to do manually than having an addon doing it for you and yet you STILL don't grasp the concept of how this is essentially playing the game for you in some capacity and making it way easier.
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>well this rotation bot is just qol, you could just press those buttons yourself
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>>541177158
I did not say anywhere that it wouldn't be more difficult, I just try to show you that whatever addons are doing can already be done in default UI to make you understand that addons are not pulling any magical and secret data to make cheat.
Making the game easier within allowed boundaries is not cheating and only bitter shitters are trying to spin it as something bad. Otherwise why the fuck do you use keybindings, faggot? You should click the spells, using keybindings is essentially playing the game for you in some capacity and making it way easier. Also stop using macros, they are essentially addons.
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new thread >>541177424
new thread >>541177424
new thread >>541177424
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>>541176493
Maybe the final floor savage or ultimates that might be true but you can generally die in savage though a clear probably isn't happening.
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>>541163561
how can i achieve this cake in game?



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