Nat x Matt Edition>NewsDaredevil Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/iV8lE08wGoEVersion 20251002 Patch Notes: https://x.com/i/status/1973463090357272875Dev Vision Vol. 10: https://youtu.be/7qL5B93ECggK'un-Lun: Heart of Heaven Map Reveal: https://youtu.be/WkTmJp0dcUASummer Special Event Vol.2: https://x.com/i/status/1967966708741632300/Season 4: The Heart of the Dragon Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/67FVMNGMFXUSeason 4 Battle Pass: Fruit of Immortality Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/D85112C9_O0Angela Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/WVc4uTJmKy4>SkinsEmma Frost's Hellfire Protocol skin: https://x.com/i/status/1973070341430706192Hela's The Grim Lady skin: https://x.com/i/status/1970533620856045829Invisible Woman's Azure Shade and Punisher's Aqua Arsenal skins: https://x.com/i/status/1967604503496052908Angela's SKULD 2099 skin: https://x.com/i/status/1965543238644760705Peni's Wasteland Mech skin: https://x.com/i/status/1962915927751901597Scarlet Witch's Phoenix Chaos skin: https://x.com/i/status/1960379210834247900Iron Man's Extrembiote Armor skin: https://x.com/i/status/1958182245052903907Blade's Polarity Edge skin: https://x.com/i/status/1952761517256184008Magik's Phoenix Demon and Black Panther's Phoenix Panther skins: https://x.com/i/status/1950010981591241126The Fantastic Four's First Steps skins: https://x.com/i/status/1947695635916067128>LinksHero Hot List: marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/Guides & News: marvelrivals.gg/Tracker Resources: rivalstracker.comMobalytics Page: mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivalsFANDOM Wiki: marvelrivals.fandom.com/Checkpoint: >>541106858
I don't like the state Venom is in
>>541183643>Healer is the least popular role by far and some of them have slightly less healbotting than othersthe stats say something else.
her
>>541183819Next year..
>>541183643>Healer is the least popular role by farlmao no, it's Vanguard and it's not even close. people switch to healers if they realize they need one but rarely do they ever do the same with tanks
anon said Healer is the most unpopular role, but i have to fill Vanguard more often than i have to fill Healer.
>>541183794Why the fuck is Jeff so popular
>>541183794>>541183912Learn reading comprehension, what was that statement in reply to.
>>541183912>lmao no, it's Vanguard and it's not even close^ this
Just play tanks if you want to climb, they literally put you in winners queue since no one plays them.
>>541184012cute, adorable, fun to play?
Few threads back someone joked about balancing the game around 4 duelists and 1 tank/supp.I'm starting to think the idea is not as dumb as it sounds.>duelfags get to skill express and creative comp all day long>tankfags might not be as miserable doing solo jobs>healerfags end up with more variation>chinkfags get to make all the duelists they want>comicfags are happy because X hero didn't end up a healbotIt's like everyone's better off.
>>541183643Counterpoint: Get rid of "healbotting" and watch how unplayable this game becomes
>>541184171wouldn't the game turn into who can get the enemy healer first?
>>541183819>>541183871I cant wait for summer 2026 just to see which girls will get summer skins next
>>541184171I always wondered if some game could balance the idea of stronger healer with the less healers there are. One Luna or Mantis gets overloaded solo healing power but together on the same team they get reduced healing.
>>541184171Balance for lopsided ratios usually doesn't work like when OW forced role queue so only 1 tank can exist and immediately their powerlevels jumped up to make them not miserable. Which would make them dominate otherwise.
Emma mommy cummies sex cuddles.
>>541184193The game is designed and balanced around extreme damage and healing. That doesn't mean healbotting is good, interesting or fun. It only appeals to a section of people that want to put in no effort, no thought, no skill expression or anything while being entirely reliant on their team to carry them.
Please stop playing Jeff in ranked.
>>541184242Depends on how impactful healing is and the healer-tank synergy.Get the healer is the current state of the game imo.
>>541184318I like Cyborg mommy
>>541184391I need modders to cook with this one for me to justify the purchase
>supports don't enjoy healbottingpretty sure most of them do.
>>541184371Jeff is the best healer atm
>>541184318>>541184391Yes>>541184371No
>>541184310OW2 solo tanking sucks balls. It's just two fat unkillable retards swinging on each other until either fucks up and dies or the DPS gets a lucky kill on one of the enemy supps.
>>541184371I don't play as a support and if I have to fill I'm picking the shark
>>541184349Playing healer is better for many of us than playing DPSkeep seething and keep going 0-10
>>541184349>no effort, no thought, no skill expressionI say the same thing everytime I kill a non healbot with 0 escapes
Spider-man is the highest skill expression champ.
>>541184521>Jeff is the best healer atmLuna is and always was. Anyone that doesn't realize this is a full blown idiot. Luna has the highest burst healing and healing per second in the game by a wide margin. She is hitscan so can attack all enemies, including flyers, effectively and for solid damage. She has a ranged stun. She has self sustain. She has fast movement. She has the best healing ult in the game and one of the best ults as a whole.
https://files.catbox.moe/ud7t6v.mp4
>supports are adam and mantis>againsomeone please stop them
>>541184698whatever you say, champ
>>541184560Braindead low skill shitter heroes is something that appeals to you, I'm sure.
Who are the healers that they use in pro play? Those are the best ones just use them.
>>541184885mantis
>>541184774Just swap to Luna / Invis / Jeff and win
i hope they let us remap daredevil's e moves into two separate keys. it's gonna be mad annoying to have to press two inputs just to throw some sticks.
>>541184885Something being good in comp, despite being played by clowns and not pros, doesn't mean it's good in your pub matches. Even in Celestial heroes like Peni have the highest winrate by far.
>>541184885>Who are the healers that they use in pro play?Luna, IW, Jeff, maybe CnD sometimefor triple support - obligatory some of Ultron, Mantis, Adam (and Jeff too)
PHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHA
>>541184885jeff seems to be really popular in pro play currently
>>541183871>Emma will get another shot>Doreen stuck with the shitty summer wearWhy do they hate her so much? Tits and ass covered and she's not even barefoot.
>>541185038>Anon why is your profile private
>>541184289Emma, Peni, Hela, Wanda and Rogue Yes I have sex with all of them
>>541185125>>541185129
>>541185254>Emma, Hela, Wanda and RogueLiterally PERFECT choices
>>541185129SG is made for fat/ugly e-girls with no aim to self insert as, they can't make her a slut.
>>541185360Wearing a swimsuit on the beach =/= sluthave sex incel
>SG is made for—Me.
>>541185360can confirmlast SG I played with was a QP warrior bitching on the mic about a Mantis not stalling the cart
When do we get a thicc mommy character like emma for support?
>>541185546>thicc mommy character for supportSupports need to have smaller hitboxes
>>541184885>rocket and ultron duo healing
>>541185598No they don't.
>>541185465>reading comprehension
>>541185038is just qp, bro
>>541184479me at the bottom!
What are the predictions for the new game mode being announced on the 16th? I hope it’s a Big Battle type thing with increased team sizes and longer rounds.But it’s probably something Halloween themed.
>go peni>enemy team always hard counters with iron man>enemy team go peni>none of my 3 dps go iron man to counter
>>541185598>Supports need to have smaller hitboxesWrong. Big thighs makes it easier to support.
>>541185598>Supports need to have smaller hitboxesthey can still give them bigger thighs
>>541185841Where did Jeff go?
>>541185269Small website, please understand.
>>541185892I wish that was me
>>541185354Peni is perfect
>>541185669>>541186213Minimizes the effects of dive.
>>541185892>>541186005
The fucking nameplate for this skin bro lmao
>>541187254Jesus fuck
https://www.twitch.tv/necros/clip/TenderNimbleEagleKappa-j5AUtwwx5KmNUqhi
I have an honest question and want an honest answer.Do you think some skins have a tactical visual advantage because they are less visually recognizable?I'm a Hawkeye main (yes, I know), and I really play to win, and I'm considering buying the Old Man skin because it blends in better with the environment. Currently, I only use the Ronin skin for the SFX sound of his Archer's Focus passive ability, because it allows for better timing and gives me a higher firing rate. The Old Man skin has the normal SFX, so the question is whether it's worth it for the character to be less visible.What do you think?
>>541187408the perfect body
>>541187254fine, I'm buying
>>541187254That thigh could feed a village for a whole winter
>>541187408I cannot reproduce this in my game. What's the tech?
>>541187254GuangGuang wanted MR to have its own Chun-Li .. and he succeeded
>>541187102*smacks your supports*
>>541187483Only Penis has a visual advantage with her Venom mines
>>541187254>dev is a thighs enjoyerBased
>>541187254overw*tch simply can't compete
>>541187483Certain Storm skins remove her cape and can make her impossible to seeOther than that, idk
>>541187254Mommy
>>5411882572bh the animated nameplates are kinda nice. I can see Blizzard stealing that idea.
>>541187254a good way to die
>>541187254Chun Li Emma skin when
Hope Rogue is a hitscan
>>541188718Halloween 2026
>>541187735*ban him*
what you know about bughopping
>jerked off yesterday >lost all the games I played >didn't jerk off today>won all my games Is the part of the eomm?
>>541190370Sex with Mantis
>>541190480THE GOOOOOOOOOOOON HAUNTS YOU
>>541190480A full sack give your more energy in general. You can lift and work more of you jack off less. My personal advice would be to just jack off after you are completely done with playing for the day, and then take Zinc and Magnesium supplements right before sleep.
>all these alt colors at 600 when they should be alt colors of their base costumes now
>>541190370bruh...this nigga playing mobile settings
some skin intro animations are as cool or cooler than the MVPs
>>541191614Trvth
>>541185546Possibly Rogue she is coming next season and is going to be a Support, i think it'd make more sense if she was a melee support given her powers key off touch and so she's gonna have more health and subsequently be thicker than the average support
>>541191259I was also thinking about this earlier, I should be able to use my molecules for all the default skin recolors
>>541187254Is Emma the Queen of Marvel Rivals?
rocket>shitty neutral heals>shit ultluna>best neutral healing>best ult
>>541192248That spots reserved for when they add War Machine
>>541192438all working as intended!
I have 2 green coins, which skins do I buy?
>>541190480You rape your brain everytime you cum >>541192438What the fuck is neutral healsDid you escape from some fgc general
>>541192248Sue is more popularLuna is more shilled
>>541192248>Is Emma the Queen of Marvel Rivals?Probably yeah.She sure is on twitter
>>541192438>rocket>>shitty neutral healsRetard
>>541192804im sure rocket's heals are enough on the shitter ranks you play at
Will Widow ever get a summer or an otherwise sexy skin?preferably with her hair downand showing off legs
what's the point of these when they look so fucking small in chat and go away the second you move?
>>541193004I hope notThe more skins she gets the less chance of the devs removing that FUCKING sniper rifle
>>541191614What even is the point of the skin intro animation if it only ever shows up in the menu
I will buy the cyber Emma skin if they dont nerf her in any way in the next patch
>>541193004Speaking of Widow, why is her last name Mrs Barnes in the game?
>>541187483Shame his Old Man skin is nothing like either of the Old Man comics he appears in.
>>541193385She and Bucky are married IIRC?Though I think its not to our playable Bucky, but to her own realitys Bucky (?) who is dead?
>>541193385That's just the cowboy skinIn the Wild West AU Widow and Barnes are married
>>541193520>She and Bucky are married IIRC?No, but she and her universes version of Bucky were (are?) together
>>541193093For someone to rip and add to their discord group instead
>>541183685>Daredevil's face when Invis and Dagger keep walking in and out of his 30m blind radius
bros venom can combo his right click and ulti to instantly kill anyone 250 hp wtffff
>>541195406its not really a true combo, any random healing inbetween will negate it.
>>541195620not if you if it right when his skill dmg pops
>>541195780You wanna type that one out again, anon?
>>541195895why you got some sort reading impairment?
>>541195982I need you to read your post again, slowly
>>541195780uhmm im not sure what you said, but there is a mini second delay before m2 goes off after ult and any healing they received during that will leave then low but not kill them.
>>541196063ehm fuck you anyways>>541196135hold my macro i'm goin in
>>541195406Almost impossible to time right. Small advice: press them at the same time, and use the ult's counter as a visual indicator. A bit past the middle usually nets you instant or almost instant combo.
>>541187254Damn you could almsot see her pussy
>>541196281its not a case of macro or input speed. the combo is slam>m2>ult. the ult knock up ensures the squishy remains within the m2 range if they are immobile. there is nothing you can do to make the m2 go off faster.
Should I just switch to Adam if my dps can kill fliers?
>>541196527of course
>>541196527to Luna
>>541196527if you have 2 other supports you can make the holy 3 support comp
>>541196428No, the input is M2 + M1 + M1 then immediately ult and boom one-shot wit both the ult and the proc. You don't even need M1, it's for timing and only to oneshot 275s. Why do you think Venom is climbing to S ranks in high elos recently?
>>541196842thats hardly a combo then. if you m1 at all you will be insta cc.
>>541196842wtf you can add m1 m1 into that combo, thanks chief
>>541196690luna has easier time hitting fliers with her SHIFT. but that interferes with the rest of her kit. adam can heal and focus on doing damage to the fliers.
>>541196842nice '''combo'''' bro. Im sure the support sissy will just stand there and not knock me back/sleep me/freeze/fade away while I m1 them.
>>541197183>luna has easier time hitting fliers with her SHIFT.I hit fliers just fine with her regular M1 Shift is just cheat modeif you are an aimlet never touch Adam/Hela
Hulk will be receiving his Maestro skin soon. It could be the final skin of the upcoming season or could be moved over to S5. Hulk players might be eating something after all
>>541197332Yeah, cause they'll too busy dancing or doing whatever in their healing ults. Nobody CC's Venom when he has full health anyway.
why is every game stomp or be stomped
>>541198305for you to be engaged
>>541197720>>541197905Bots?
>>541198305Close games suck, way too much effort no matter the outcome.
>>541198345i don't have fun when it's a stomp, and i don't have fun being stomped, man why does everyone get reset to bronze, this shit is so retarded lmao
>>541198305The pattern repeats even if you soft throw.
>>541198305dont play ranked
How does bucky still have a negative winrate in all ranks, and such a high pickrate? Why doesn’t Magik have a lower winrate? I have to be missing something
ok, what skin can DD even have?Aside of the normal lawyer outfit with a blind stick costume.
>>541199470A genji skin.
>>541199470Wedding Dress
need a psylocke main to relieve my stress after our games.
>>541199470Oh right, I forgot.They better have this for Christmas this year
>>541199803Dont let Magik see this ...
>>541199821Prime emoji material
>>541200070uhmm thats magik hand..
>>541200115? thats Lunas hand
https://files.catbox.moe/sbkwax.png
>>541200185no?
>>541200198yea, this is how it would end
>>541200235Pretty sure Luna has that black fingerless glove on her right hand
>>541200386luna nails are not black...i wish..they are blue..maybe in the inevitable halloween costume!
Peni needs a school uniform skin like this
>>541201540Isn't it a waste on her? You never see her outside of her mech.
>>541201743They should have made it so she's projected outside for emotes ala miku hologram.
>>541198305if ur team is getting stomped, pick adam -> 5man DIE AGAIN -> svp
>>541201540With cute, detailed panties underneath that we'll never see but are modeled as an easter egg :)
>>541201540>>541202519this is not a pedo game.
My nigga Zhiyong still cooking?
>>541203120>this is not a pedo game.TRVKEThis is a game for mature/evil women and MILFchads
But you can see Penis outside when she gets ulted by Strange.
I'm starting to leave all stomps in qp. If they want me engaged they better let me stomp.
>when the support gives you that look
>>541203442I still think about being a 19 year old girl being gently but firmly sexually assaulted by the older women of this game sometimes :/
>>541204782Good luck with that, I've left so many stomps chinks banned me for an hour lol.
>>541203407chinkoid cant cook
best and cutest girl needs a new skin
>>541183825A good day of not-shit teams to you, Sai-anon
DD looks bara from behind and I don't like it. It doesn't help that his voice kinda lame too.
>>541205376>DD looks bara from behindhis corset of belts doesn't help. Let's hope his first skin isn't shit.
Whats the most you ever lost playing comp, /mrg/?
>>541205460my sanity
>update drivers>shader preloading takes 5 fucking years
>>541205937never happen to me. you have old pc
>>541205937They said to update drivers but they're already up to date.
>>541205937Anon, it's time to upgrade your cpu!
>>541205937console chads win again
>>541205937maybe update your gpu?
>>541206154>>541206037>>541206215i have a 5080 and a 9800x3d
>>541206263maybe get a 5090?
>>541206405i look like that
>>541206263something wrong with it. i have 5070ti / 9700x and everything works fine
>>541206215I want to rape this whore
when are we likely to get info on the chinese skins?
>>541204872Shut up faggot
>>541187254>concept art looks meh at best>"it's just her base skin redone" they said>dont plan on getting it>preview drops>the but cape is transparent>best hair for emma by far>no shitty x boots>chair emote is kino>and now this nameplate is pure soulat least i'll be getting this at a discount with the blues and golds from the BP. all this needs is a white recolor and it's probably her best skin
How are you supposed to be playing Psylocke when the opposing team sticks together? I find it a lot easier when you can isolate individual opponents, but when they get back up or get healed, having to get that close while being that squishie starts getting awkward. A lot of the time it feels like I'd be better off just switching to any sort of long range damage dump character like Punisher or SG, but I am trying to diversify here.
>>541207754
he cute?
>>541207952forcing important cds for your team..to do nothing
Angela is such a thankless characterI always see em with an absolutely horrendous kills and damage end stat but her disturbance can be undeniably a game changer
>>541208140she is just flying captain america
If nobody replies to this retard, maybe he'll go away
>>541208330BOGGLE?!!?!
>>541184242Is that a bad thing, hypothetically? Tf2 usually only runs one medic and it actually becomes kind of an interesting approach of risk management on how to dive and drop him alongside people running defense to protect him from being dropped. I think 1 healer could encourage characters you don't normally see like Reed or SW to run defense and shut down aggressive diveAll in theory anyway, in practice it would probably just result in even more long range war of attrition poke spam
>>541208140I ban that freak. More annoying to deal with than Cap and Venom.
>>541208198if you play her wrong she's flying cap, if you play her right she's wolverine with wings. I was dumbfounded when some dude took angela from me while I went to piss and when I was watching the replay of his gameplay he was playing her completely wrong and getting no value from her kit
>>541187254
>>541187254>October 3, 2025 - 3:00 AM
>>541191926Isn't Rogue usually depicted as being more a pint sized dynamo kind of archetype? I know Gambit is 6 feet even and he's usually depicted at least a head taller than Rogue, if not a head and change. I really doubt she'll have any kind of mom energy in rivals
ITS OUThttps://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20251001/41667_1263090.html
Balance changeshttps://www.marvelrivals.com/m/balancepost/20251001/41667_1263090.html
>>541209528>still increasing energy ult cost instead of ult duration they literally dont get it..
Patch Notes outhttps://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20251001/41667_1263090.html>NerfsTorchPhoenix (no more beyblade thank god)Cloak and DaggerUltronJeff>BuffsAngelaVenomBladeHelaIronfistMister FantasticPsylockeRocket
>hela buffs LOL
>>541204872Uh oh healer correction
>>541209745based
>>541209742Venombros, we fucking won
>>541209528>buffing Psylocke's ultYou mean the ultimate that literally instakills squishies and is virtually impossible to escape???????At least the Phoenix melee bullshit is gone
>>541209528nothing burger patch, this changes nothing
games dead
>>541209742Angelabros we won
>>541184164>>541184012The easy mode character and also the throw pick. All you do is shit in the far back line, shoot your primary and use your ult to fuck over your teammates.
>>541209846just stack together and the ult does literally nothing
>Angela buffTHE HAND OF HEVEN IS HERESHOW SOME RESPECT
>>541209742>Buffs>AngelaI'm going to have to pick her less now, it's going to get a lot dicier on whether she works or not based on the other team's composition.
>>541209528How the fuck did they buff hela again? Why is psylocke being buffed? Why did they add MORE CC? WHY IS THE ONLY THING PHOENIX LOSING IS HER BEYBLADE? Even without it she's still the best character in the game. Why the fuck is rocket's ult being buffed to 40% damage again
>Increase Damage Boost granted by C.Y.A. (Ultimate Ability) from 25% to 40%.RocketCHADS we're so back!
>>541209920is this the first anti heal?
>>541209920>30% wew i guess instead of getting 250hps they will be getting 175!!
https://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20251001/41667_1263090.htmllol THIS is what the chinese have been slaving away with for all this time? fucking idiots>angela gives slightly more bonus hp from axes>venom ult now applies 30% heal reduction for 4skek, so much for Blade being the antiheal hero.>blade gets attackspeed stacks slightly fasterfucking nothing>hela bird starts up faste and gives her 25 bonus hpkek, nothing>torch gets slight damage and movement nerfkek, nothing>iron fist jet yee buff for slightly more damage against tanks and far dpsbasically nothing>fantastic pull now immobilizes enemies for 1skek, not what he needed and will only annoy people. more cc shit.>phoenix removed melee attack chainkek>slight buff to psylocke ultkek, basically nothing>c&d ult cost slight increasekek, nothing>jeff takes more crit damagekek, sure kill the fucker faster.>rocket ult now damage boosts by 40%biggest change so far, won't really change anything and not what he needed>they nerf ultrons drone healing and ult energy costLOL, fucking retardedWhat a fucking shit patch.
they gutted jean kek
>>541205012Currently testing this and it seems it gives you progressively worse stomps in order to punish you lmao.
>>541210071uhmm blade, you know the hero that was released (and forgotten) has it..
>>541210165Why are you in this general?
>>541210172Wouldn't have happened if all those retards weren't abusing that bug so much. You have them to thank for it.
>>541209528Damn. They killed Ultron completely.
>>541209528still no changes to BP? so 2 seasons of him getting perma banned in ranks lower than celestial is not enough for these slant eyed retards to take a look?>psylocke ult buffwow the ult that 2 shots you was buffed, well, it still 2 shots you but harder>ironchink buffof course
>>541209989>just be hyper vigilant and paranoid at literally all times whenever there's a Psy on the other teamThis shit isn't fun, retard
>>541210245at least they are not as retarded as blizzard to put anti heal one single hero.
>>541210341>she cant track ultsuhmm skill issue desu
>>541210271I have a better question, why are the chink designers still employed when the meta has been unchanged since launch and these patches change nothing?
>>541210429the meta in pro looks pretty diversity, no?
>ultron healing nerfednice "healer" faggots
>>541209528VENOMGODS!!!>-Reduce Astral Flock start-up cast timethis one is nice>Torch and Phoenix nerfsgood>Psy ult buffI'll take it>Our beloved Jeff's survivability takes a slight hit.>Reduce the crit damage reduction from the Oblivious Cuteness passive 70% to 50%.meh, but alright>Rocket's Ultimate Ability utility gets a boost:>Increase Damage Boost granted by C.Y.A. (Ultimate Ability) from 25% to 40%.is Rocket back?
>>541210519Nobody besides DPStards calls them Healers
>>541209528oh wtf are these patch notes lmao, they really do just shuffle all the top tiers around constantly holy shit>Hela Buff
>buff hela>buff nigger>buff venom>buff psyThey CANT be THIS retarded. holy shit. 10k players by the end of the season
>>541209528>let's nerf the healing of the weakest healer in the game
>>541210165Most of those are good, but you're just a dumb shitposter
game finna die this year frfr
>>541210517Good heroes are still good, bad heroes are still bad, same bans, same heroes not picked.Live service games needs meta changeups and bigger balance changes or they get stale and boring, with people leaving and not coming back.This is the 101 of live service games, yet these chinks are too stupid to even know this much.
>>541209969>fighting over objective on overtime>our jeff ults>and eats both teams>timers runs out before he spits us back onto the objective
>>541210653kys retardtroon
>>541209528>>541209742holy nothingburger
this patch literally and i mean liderally changes nothing
>>541209528>They got rid of the fucking beyblade animation cancel for PhoenixFucking GOOD. Catching her dumbass out of position as a tank and immediately getting shredded was bullshit.
>>541209528i fucking love nothing burger patches don't youchrist would it fucking kill those bugfuckers to actually change the meta properly i want this poke slop to fucking end
>crying about a tiny Hela buffshe needs a DAMAGE buff lol, she has fallen behind all the other top dps
>>541210653dps chads eating good
>>541209528so nothing ever happens patch. meta will still be same. these chinks are too scared to make big changes
>>541210825>Nothing burger nerfs to jean>Buffs for s tiers like hela and psylocke???
>>541210684In what dimension is any of it good or relevant.It impacts effectively nothing.Will BP stop being banned? No. Will Moon Knight stop being shit? No. Will healers like Luna and C&D stop being top picks? No. Will this change how many heroes are played in the game? No.It changes nothing. The chinks think they have some almost flawless diamond on their hands and trying to tweak it to perfection, fucking idiots.
>>541207952group up with your team, farm ult on the tanks, than ult right when an opportunity arrives ie the healers cant patty cake and/or dont have ult
>>541210918the same heroes will be picked again, amazing game.
>>541210864She makes you lose half your health just by clicking on you ONCEWhat damage is there to buff????
>>541210165>>phoenix removed melee attack chain>kek???
>>541210864>she needs a DAMAGE buffNo hero has higher dmg/s than her, especially considering her range. Only Punisher that doesn't whiff a single shot outdamages her.
>>541210918hela buff is deserved because she is losing her anchor bonus and 2 taps
>>541210918Removing the bullshit melee combo is not a nothing nerf
>venom buff>have the mvc skin>can't aim for shit so no point learning himfuck my aimlet life
>>541211009She needs several hits to kill 1 squishie and considering how hard she is to aim with, its easier to just pick other meta dpsno AoE at allmid ult
>>541211045She can't cancel her melee with flight to deal tons of damage with spark stacks and melee doesn't give spark. That cancel combo is dead.
>>541210165>venom ult buff before m1 fixvenombros...
>>541211178>She needs several hits to kill 1 squishie and considering how hard she is to aim with, its easier to just pick other meta dps>no AoE at all>mid ultIf this is how you describe Hela you are not only wrong, but also fucking retarded. She has basically the highest dps in the game, has 2 active aoe skills and creates aoe explosions on kills, her ult is one of the strongest dps ults in the game.
>>541211178>several2She needs 2 hits2 is not several
>>541211206Can't wait to boot into a server where some faggot phoenix main tries to do the animation cancel still but gets their teeth all over the pavement instead.
>>541211292What's wrong with his m1?
>>541209528>>541210165>ultron healing nerfYes, because his healing was just too high. Absolutely broken.What's wrong with the chinese, man.
>>541211450Landing it feels like trying to do precision work with sausage fingers suffering from frost bite.
bucky hook should apply anti-heal.
>>5412113862 head-shots. Which you're not getting against moving targets 99% of timeIf she was meta, she'd be picked in Ignite, but she is barely touchedStar-lord is more meta than her
EVERYBODY GETS AN OVERSHEILD
>ULTRON>NERFS
>>541211596A Phoenix bodyshotting someone at 10 meters is 130 dmg/s, at 20 meters it's 110 dmg/s. A Hela bodyshotting someone is 170 dmg/s. Now tell me which heroes deal more damage than Hela.
>>541211567>>541211690Time to unbind the drone.
You really don't get to talk if you think nerfing Mr 500k healing and 50 final hits every game was a bad idea
>>541211567Because he's broken in triple support. Single target continuous healing is retarded. I hope they rework him at this point.
ultron should have been a dps
>>541211815Just dmg/s alone is worthless, Phoenix (at least pre-nerfs) >> Hela
Is Venom gonna be too OP with this buff?
>>541211815raw damage alone is not enough, phoenix has way more survivability and better ult
>>541211970You have made zero relevant arguments for why Hela needs damage buff and absolutely everything you've said about her has been wrong. Try again.
are these changes live tomorrow?
I have completely lost interest in continuing playing Rivals after seeing the patch notes.
RacoonGods won
>>541212114wont even be in top 3 tanks picked
Give Zhiyong the Old Yeller treatment
>>541211112She's not losing her anchor bonus. >>541211147Jean was the best character in the game even without beyblade.
>>541212131Because she has nothing but her M1 dmg (her ult is mid) and even with that dmg/s - a bunch of other dps are still betterif not dmg, then buff her mobility/survivability/ultYou're acting like this is still S0 and S0 Hela
>>541212114>>541212198Venom is only picked when all the other Tanks are banned
>>541209528>>541209742Decent patch, some of the anons complaining are retarded>Torch and Phoenix got needed nerfs, especially latter whose melee tech got deleted rightfully>psylocke ult buff makes up for the shuriken nerf gutting her flank potential and enabling the constant 3 support cancer>CnD ult cost nerf is always a good thing>Ulton did get his ult a little to offten but the healing nerfs are dumb>rocket needed a better ult to be worth more of a damn again>they finally did something for venoms ult>blade gets needed damage buffsA lot more good than bad changes
>almost everything in the patch nerfs/buffs something which has nothing to do with why a hero is weak, strong or fixes a problem they have. again. just like every other patch.Why does Zhiyong still have a job
They didnt nerf Emma, so I guess I'm buying the skin then
>>541212353they can make rocket ult give you immortality, it will still be shit because jean insta deletes it.
>>541212273Jean is fine. She's just Hela but again and actually fun. It was stuff like the instakill melee combo that made her unreasonable.
>>541212331Re-read my prior post and try again.
Zhiyong cooked (didnt need to nerf Jeff tho)/mrg/ BTFO again
>>541212520Concession accepted.
>>541212518>Jean is fine.The absolute delusion.
>>541212518>Play Tank> Accidentally go near Jean>Get Blown upYeah, no, fuck that bitch
In lower elo and QP games where they dont shoot Rockets ult, he is gonna be OP (again)Especially with the Phoenix nerfs
>>541212621Unlike you I actually play the game and don't get all my opinions from streamersJean isn't completely cancer to play against now that her melee combo is gone. She's fine.
>>541212774I have literally never seen a game where people ignore his ult. Everyone nuke it unless they can't.
>>541212593You conceded from the beginning, even with your goalpost moving and deflection.You flat out started by saying Hela absolutely needed damage buff because it was too low (she has the highest in the game) and said several things which were factually wrong like no aoe.You have made absolutely no argument or even accurate statement in regards to Hela. You're effectively a retard that said>the sky is green and salt is not saltyand when people tell you why you're wrong, you like a donkey parrot>concession acceptedbecause you're retarded and think that magically means you didn't shit the bed.
>>541212774>everyone can't aim>surely a damage boost will be OPdamn, sure is tough down there bud
>>541212927No, they just ignore itand there exist melee dps too
So Rokcet is now a ban target?
>>541213124nope
>uninstalled game 3 weeks ago>checked back in to see if chinks finally pulled their heads out of their asses and release a patch that actually changes up the game>another stale bread patch that changes nothingThis game is doomed.
>>541213124YOU ARE NOTHING
I was just thinking earlier that Hela's escape ability seems dated now compared to others like Phoenix
magik is just gonna be oneshotting everything on her ult with rocket dmg amp lol
>>541213425>iron fist m2 in your waynothing personnel, bitch
>>541209528what a retarded fucking patch>ultron nerffucking why he is fucking useless as a healer already>hela buffslmfao, whats next? buffing namor maybe>mister fantastic and venompretty clear where we are going with updates like theseevery fucking character is getting an immobilizing ability or healing debuff and not just the new ones, they gonna patch this shit in for everyone
>>541209528>>541209742>still no nerfing of Luna's ult
>>541210165Not a fan of the psylocke ult buff and mr fantastic pull buff. Immobilisation after using a move that’s guaranteed to land is coward shit, even if it’s did a second. We needed the Bucky trooper fist immobilisation removed not added to more characters.Also >no Loki buffsFuck off!
Good patch, better than expected. Although Helas escape/survivability needs even more buffs.
>>541213753i keep telling, chud. and you simply dont listen, this is Luna Snow game.
>>541213876>>541214039rape
>>541209528> Dive seasonEnjoy you 50k players.Season 2: reloaded incoming
>>541213834The should make her escape more dynamic like Wanda
Can Hawkeye oneshot Jeff now?
Rework Ultron as a full-fledged dps at this point.
>>541209440>loki gutted and now ultron guttedbruh just straight up remove the healing class except Luna, CnD, and invisible woman at this point. Why are the other healers even here?
>nerfing Ultron and buffing hela The devs are fucking stupid confirmed
>>541212353>>blade gets needed damage buffsIt's not a damage buff, idiot. He gains 1 attackspeed stack more from whirlwind slash. It has zero impact on his damage and how fast he gains stacks.
>>541212417They probably didn't nerf her because of the skin. As soon as it leaves the new category of the shop she'll get another gazillion nerfs.
>>541209920No it's ok for a tank that's not Emma to have value
>/mrg/ thinks Ultron was bad (he is actually S/S+ tier) and didnt deserve a nerf>or that Hela was soo op that she cant even get a tiny smallest of buffsThat tells you everything you need to know about the dumbfucks posting here
>>541214531>He gains 1 attackspeed stack more from whirlwind slashand what does that translate too, answer quickly!
>luna untouched>ultron nerfed???
>mr fantastic immobilises with his grabFuck off. Cunts already spam that annoying move.
>>541214618>You
>>541214618yeah the dumbfucks around here thinks ultron is op because of his healing which got nerfeddumbfuck
>>541214618/mrg/ has been r/Marvelrivals2 for a while now. Pisslows everywhere
>>541214618He needed a damage need. Nerfing his only source of healing outside of Ult and team-up just confirmed what we always knew: Netease gave us yet another Duellist larping as a Strategist.
>>541214747Hahah a futile post >Add another no aim duelist >Nerf ultron who can avoid him
>>541214730No retard. You need to explain how gaining 1 more stack from a chain that caps at 10 that he already reached max stacks instantly with somehow increases his damage. You haven't even touched Blade. He gets max stacks after a dash and single attackchain.
>>541214842Any kind of nerf is a nerf, it doesnt matter retard. The character becomes less strongAnd nerfing Ultrons healing = nerfing triple supportIsnt that what you retards wanted?
>>541214993>character auto aim one shots>lets nerf the movement speeddumbfuckingfuck
they needed to buff ultron healing and nerf his damage. nerfing his healing just encouges triple support even more.
>>541214618Explain why Ultron and no other healer needed a healing nerf. Before you say something dumb like "triple healer", you make him even worse as a healer and even less viable in a 2 healer lineup so he is literally only viable in triple healer lineups.
>>541214993Nerfing his healing means he is only viable in Triple support now. Triple support emerged after they buffed Mantis.
>>541214965>Increase the duration of each speed attack gained from .7 to 1I dont have to explain shit to nog who cant read
>>541214618That makes him viable only in 3 supp comp you cretin.
>no Bucky nerfs>no punisher nerfs>no hela nerfs>no Loki nerfs reversal>no cap nerfs reversal>old Thor still not returning
>>541215421How about you explain what you think that means, exactly. I can tell you don't play Blade.
Rivals actually managed to have me go from thinking support ultron was a retarded idea, to mindbreaking me into thinking it was actually kind of neat, to convincing me that it actually WAS retarded and he really should’ve been a DPS from the beginning. Thanks devs for the emotional journey.
so they make ultron even more useless outside of a triple healer comp just to nerf triple healer lineups?thats how they fix things in this game?
This patch just cemented that the chinks don't know how to balance this game.
SO with the current patch heres how much love each character gets from netease in the skins departmentremember weve got fully confirmed:>angela, wolverine, iron fist, storm beast skins>peni, namor, jeff, blade, scarlet witch, spiderman skinshows your main doing anons?
>>541215368>he is only viable in Triple support now.>nowAlways was. He was never good in double support and shouldnt beUltron was always a hybrid healer/dps
>support has the least choices of characters>They keeping nerfing all of them
>>541215483>>541215914
Another triple support season L patch
>>541209528>torch cant melee cancel reload for free anymoreHuge fucking nerf
>>541215368>only viable in Triple support now. always wasmaybe in your piss low he is viable in 2 support. in real games you just lose if you have ultron as second support
>>541215919Supports is the strongest class by far
No really, why his healing of all things?
>>541215489Hela buffed btw
will chinkdevil save the game from zhiyong the ape?
>>541216096>in real games you just lose if you have ultron as second support^ thisAt no point did you ever want to have Ultron in double support
As a dps ultron player who unbind the drone since season 2.5, this nerf doesn't affect me
>>541214618it's been clear for ages that this general is nothing but pisslows larping as one above all
Being a torch player has to suck
>>541193593More comics need wild west AUs. I remember a batman one that was a fun read
>>541215965>triple support>rocket ult dmg buff>venom reduced healing buff>namor team up>ultron and jeff nerfs>blade buffsTriple support has never been weaker
>>541215914>and shouldnt beYes he should, idiot.
>>541199821>Daredevil saying happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas
>tripple noobs nerfedCool>Dive and anti-dive buffedGreat news
>>541215919The Rocket buff was interesting: being a shit heal-bot for 2 seasons, with your hard counter being the most played duellist in ranked was ass.The furry fucker needed some spice.But the rest? It's full of weird choices> Kneecap Ultron's HEALING> C&S keep getting Ult less and less (a support that can barely give enough sustain to a tank)As if what forced triple support wasn't the busted damage of support hybrids and Mantis damage bust breaking the game.
>retarded ultron nerfSo the chinks don't want me to play strategist and instalock duelist every match? Fine by me.
>>541216426Triple support is still going to out damage any attempt to counter it with Venom or Blade. Nerfing Ultron's healing only cements him as a third healer on a team.
*locks in jeff* not my problem :)
>>541216829Can’t venom’s ult not just kill through support ults with the rocket damage boost?
>>541217036
>>541217124*cloak fades your shit ult*
>>541214618>uh i'm actually very good and smart>nerfing ultrons healing was a good and smart change!
>>541217036*Emma rapes you*
Daredevil will be receiving an Original skin called "Devil 2099" similar to Angela>Classic cucks seething ensures
>>541216468No he shouldnt. Ultron, Mantis, Adam are hybrids dps intended for triple supportNot every strategist needs to be a healbot copy of Luna/IW/CnD
>>541214618the average rank of this general is genuinely like plat or gold so yeah
>>541217295>overdesigned neon shit
>cry and whine about wanting triple support nerfed (even though 2-2-2 has the highest winrate)>nerf Ultron, who is one of the biggest triple supports enablers, which is a DIRECT NERF to triple support and their healing output>noooo not liek thiskek
>>541217036Now your taking more damage >>541217295Fuck this
>>541217295Yall thought you were getting classic DD off rip? I'm still waiting for a classic bucky and we only just now got classic cap
>>541217596bit cringe desu
>>541217310>Ultron, Mantis, Adam are hybrids dps intended for triple supportClearly not since the devs always intended 2-2-2 to be the go to lineup.Pigeonholing heroes to one specific lineup is factually bad design.Hybrids are never intended for a heaver commit lineup. Reed doesn't replace a Vanguard like Mag or Strange, he emphasizes.Please don't talk about things you're utterly clueless about. It's embarrassing to just read.
>>541217124A two ult combo isn't a good counter to an entire comp, even Jeffnado gets stuffed. Especially with a filthy degenerate like Mangto running around enabling stuff like this.
>>541217596SOVL
I am only mad about the Jeff nerf.Rest is good
>>541217295Based.
>>541217643Best they can do is add the Netflix suit when season 2 of born again is out
>>541217673>the devs always intended 2-2-2 to be the go to lineup.No, devs want comp diversity. Which we have some of right now
>>541217596Necros is so f*cking tuff
>>541217579Anon, you don't nerf triple support in any relevant way and only hammer home Ultron is only viable in triple support.You think Ultron's healing nerf impacts triple support when you have healers like Luna and Sue that have over 180 hp/s healing? No, it directly impacts double support lineups only.
>>541217596>no holesBased
>>541217679Fair
So I know that ignite tournament is going on: do they have the same client as normal players? Like is Daredevil going to just randomly drop for them mid tournament and they're going to randomly have their characters kits tweaked in the middle of this? That seems retarded to deal with for the teams
>nerf one of the bottom three characters in their class so that they do their role even worseYeah I can’t keep defending these chinamen
>>541217596where is my waifu emiru? not wathing fags
>>541217859>you don't nerf triple support in any relevant wayLiterally a nerf to triple supports running Ultron>Ultron is only viable in triple support.Exactly how its intended
Mantis rapes
>>541217579It was fucking simple: nerf the damage, it's busted. Make going third sup have a higher cost.Same goes for Jeff and Mantis (maybe nerfing Adam would be too much, the dude already sucks outside of top tier play).Nerfing the healing just makes him unplayable, because now he is a throw pick in two comps and you have much better options for three sup comps.
>>541217816You base this on absolutely nothing when everything else points to 2-2-2 prior. Even this Ultron nerf is a response to triple support (even if misguided) so it's something they clearly don't prefer.You also conveniently ignored the rest of the post, because you're a clueless idiot as a I said. Nevermind then, you clearly wasn't worth the respectful replies I gave you, retard.
>>541217596LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>541217295I don't see this anywhere on the miller dudes page
>Psylocke buffBased.
>>541217965>bottom three characters in their classWho are you talking about? Surely not the S+ tier Ultron who gets banned nearly every game in Ignite?
>>541217873>>541217975whitebois turn because matt is a whiteboi they did the same for blade
>>541218032she should rape me desu
>>541217596>SurefourThey've got to be paying him a large bag when I heard he exclusively dropped the game for Deadlock cause they overbuffed support characters like Overwatch.
>>541218163sftu, nigger
>you like playing LokiFuck you try Luna instead >You like playing Ultron Fuck you try Luna instead she's got a brand new skin
>>541217995>Literally a nerf to triple supports running UltronExcept as I said it doesn't impacts triple support at all. You get more than enough healing from the 2 other supports that sit on more than 10x Ultron's healing output combined.Ultron's healing in triple support is a small bonus and triple support will keep getting picked. You didn't do anything to impact it.>Exactly how its intendedNo it's not and if it is then the devs are even more subhumanly retarded than you.This is just as retarded as releasing a Vanguard that would only be viable in triple Vanguard lineups and unironically thinking that's a good thing.You made it clear you're not worth anyone's time, you're a zoo animal that eats his own feces.
Here's what's good about Ultron>He has literally 100% uptime on his healing no matter what>Laser go pew pewNeither of these things were touched
>>541209742>toning down torch >removing the beyblade in three different ways is goofy but sure>slight hit to triple support via nerfs and a little bit of a buff to saiIt's okay I guessVenom however won biggerly
So Chang doesn't want me to play strategist at all? Ok.
>>541218608>healbot calling others retarded
>>541218719His healing was massively nerfedWhy are you lying
>>541218719Well, the fact that he gets his ultimate every 5 seconds is a really strong point for him, and that's a bit weaker now. But overall you're right not much has changed.
>buff Venom>buff Psydoes Zhiyong .. know??
>>541218821>nerf ultron in a way which doesn't affect triple healer lineups at all>somehow this is a good change and """"nerfs triple healer"""" lineups except it doesn't
>it doesn't affect triple healer lineups at all because my dumbfuck ass said so
How does Bucky avoid getting nerfed it's genuinely unbelievable
>>541214618this general us genuine shit I'll give a recap of whats gonna happen with each character>angelaalready popping up as the tank version of wolverine, the survivability bonus in her standing state isnt gonna change anything at all>venomas we have seen from another character with MORE healing reduction on demand on a 5 second cooldown ability, this effect is useless and unnoticeable but its not like venom needed buffs anyway this being the meta where he is a premium tank due to team ups>Bladeonly one thing here matters and thats the stacks lasting slightly longer, everything else is either inconsequential like the gun shift hitting longer which you shouldnt be using cause it sucks and the extra slash stack not mattering cause the first shift gets you to max stacks anyway, Blade doesnt need buffs, he is a character that is going to excel in a brawl meta and hes launched and lived soley through anti-dive poke metas which stomp brawl by default
>>541218719>He has literally 100% uptime on his healing no matter whati dont play him, does his heal bot thingy stay on you and heal so long as it om you?
>>541218821>3x strategist heals around 360 hp/s even without ultron>nerfing ultrons healing will hurt 3x strategists with ultron in it somehowMind explaining this to me. How is 3x strategist affected?
this is why all the relevant pvp games are from the west
>>541219095>torchmuch needed nerfs, not gonna make the character shit tier but comps based soley on keeping him alive are gonna feel the nerfs, and if this does remove the melee shift players will finally be able to fight back against this cancer>iron fistnever a buff without a preemptive nerf so he is in the exact same state as he was except he does 1 more point of damage per hit on Groot and just Groot>fantasticworst character in the game stays worst character in the game>phoenixfinally hit with nerfs in multiple directions, still gonna be top tier cause of her ult but slightly less top tier>psylockedidnt need to be buffed, before current patch was contending with top tier dps then got nerfed to sit behind torch and phoenix now gets buffed back to contending with torch and phoenix for top 3stupid>heladirect buff doesnt matter shes just bad phoenix, new namor team up being shifted away from hulk might make her slightly better but then again losing gamma team up makes namor so much worse would you even WANT to play this comp?>CNDneeded a hit to this, always the fastest support to get their ult now she should be in line with the rest of the main healers>jeffa fine nerf, not gonna effect the current strongest main healer in the game>rocketvery funny change, last time I saw a rocket faggot talking about him on twitter he was bitching that the no-defense ult made him unique and he lost his "super powerful" damage buff just to help bad players, now hes got both>ultronhitting torch directly hit this comp hard, hitting ultron too probably kills ithis healing output was already only barely scraping by if you played him in 2 healer comps, nerfing that makes him strictly a 3 healer character and I'd rather just play a dps at that pointult nerf was probably necessary but along side the first nerfs hes just going to fall to the wayside making the venom, adam, jeff, mantis comp the only option instead of that vs the torch, mag, ultron, invis, mantis one
>>541214618Why would you nerf his healing though? His damage is high for a support but his healing is eh. Its like they want him to be a dps than can heal instead of a healer that can dps
>>541218719Well he's even more pigeonholed into triple support now but that's okay
>>541219237>this is why all the relevant pvp games are from the westMR is the only relevant hero shooter on the market
>>541219075see >>541219206Ultron was not a source of a ton of healing in that lineup and the nerf isn't even noticeable for that lineup. This change ensures he is only viable in that lineup as well, which leads to less lineup diversity.How is this a good change and how does this impact that lineup in any relevant way?
Sex with koreans
>Classic cucks will be forced to buy the S5 BP if they wanna have a chance to play classic DDGuangguang does it again
>>541219439She's so cute bros
>>541209528>Angela axe shield buff>Hela survivability finally buffed>Magik's team up nerf is minimal>Reed's "buff" does what it already did but slightly betterWell everyone I play that got adjusted got something good I guess.I really wish they reworked Reed completely but I'll take anything at this point
>nerf ultron>ultron is never seen again in 2-2-2>chinks try to fix this by buffing something random like lowering his ult cost by 100 energy or 1 second lower cooldown on his dashThis is by far the most incompetent design and balancing team I have ever seen, no contest.
>>541219601>he genuinly thinks Gangang is gonna make me PAY for a classic skin>when both cap and thor have been given away for free
>>541219257all healing needs to be aggressively nerfedbut also i guarantee theyre targeting his healing to make torch more killable specifically, they dont care about any other effect that change hasif they cared about triple support theyd be nerfing mantis
>>541219904>>ultron is never seen again in 2-2-2Ultron should never be used in 2 healerNot now, not beforeUltron on 2 supports = throwingsimple as
>>541220015Then enjoy getting a bunch of throw matches because people will still pick ultron for 2/2/2 a ton and you can screech about lack of heals.
>>541219904Not sure why they'd try to fix what they intended to do all alon
>chinks "hard at work" on this balance patch>this slimmed down and stupid patch is the result
>”We hear your complaints about triple support compositions and will adjust the game accordingly!”>Nerfs the character that can barely be considered a support
>>541220175Thats a playerbase problem. Unfortunately its not fixable.Fortunately I play supports myself.
Remember to never listen to /mrg/!
>>541220364All you had to do was use cover while I generously put my drone on your ass for a few seconds
>>541220389>Thats a playerbase problem.No, that's the developers problem and direct fault.>Fortunately I play supports myself.Then you will enjoy your time effectively solo healing while still getting blamed for lack of heals.
>>541219904Related post but what can't he cancel his flight booster like ironman can
>>541220181Its funny, because if anything, mantis doesn’t even work as a support duo. And she has a kit much much more geared towards it than ultron
>>541220542>NoYes it is.Most of the problems in this game (and team-based PvP games in general) are from the players.You have better healers suited for 2 supports - pick them
>>541220584He's not supposed to be that mobile
>>541220717>Yes it is.No idiot. The devs design, balance and manage the game. They shape what it is and how it is played. If they don't like how it is played they change it. If players still play a game in a certain way you adapt to it.Players are not to blame, devs are to 100%. If you don't understand this, you need to stop talking because you're clueless and understand nothing about game development or design. Every single problem the game has is a direct result of the developers and their design. Period.
>>541220175Retards picking Ultron in 2-2-2 set ups were throwing before this nerf so it changes nothing. Thankfully at this point of the game Jeff is great and Adam is decent so instead of dreading 1 of 3 throw pick healers when I solo queue, these days I only fear if Ultron is the only other healer which has been rare for me this season.
Obviously the devs are also balancing around the fact that daredevil is dropping. Nerfing ultron, jean and torch just makes sense with that
>>541221141Sue is so lovely...
>>541219976You have to pay for purple mag >>541221163Yeah
>>541220673I think the one buff they ought to give him is some bonus health when he puts the drone on someone or something like that so that in a pinch he can approximate healbotting Mantis I guess is a different flavor of the same thing
>>541221163>Obviously the devs are also balancing around the fact that daredevil is dropping. Nerfing ultron, jean and torch just makes sense with thatNewsflash, you don't nerf hero X to nerf hero Y and Z. You nerf heroes Y and Z.That's just as dumb as>hm, this hulk team-up is just way too strong.... let's nerf hulk and not the team-up
>>541209528So do anyone knows if all these healing reductions stack or is it whatevers the highest gets applied?
Choose your fighter
Unpopular opinion While 2-2-2 is the default some comps and characters are intended to thrive on some maps or sides or rounds
>more characters getting anti-heal abilitiesI dont like the way this is heading boys
>>541221664is right a flats/necros fusion?
>>541221461Anon I might be retarded, but I don’t get what you mean. I might’ve been unclear, but I meant nerfing those three who could be direct counters to daredevil, makes sense considering his release.
>>541221737It's a bandaid solution to the problem with this game's ultimates and healingNot great but not unexpected
>>541221737I'm more annoyed by everyone getting grounded. Anti heal hardly matters with how strong healing is (although I guess it's a different story if everyone can apply it) but fucking with my movement? That's a pain.
>>541221664>>541221905Flatcros
>>541221925You don't counter Daredevil with Ultron's healing.
>>541209528>Ultron heal nerfWhy? Increase the ult cost if you want, but lowering his healing is dumb. Also, Jeff is a completely different character now.Most of the changes are good, though, but they don't really address how annoying triple heals are.
>>541221737>Slap on the wrist for Luna snow who heals 300 per second>Characters like Ultron go from healing 30 to negative 5 per secondThey are doing this wrong. They need to nerf the healers
Lots of stuff leaking so I'll be going over them:We have been told the following hero’s will receive Launch Event skins in Season 4.5:- Spider-Man (Black and Gold)- Psylocke- Storm (the one below)This event will appear in the launch stream
>>541222259Dark magician girl?
>>541221664Left looks like that blonde guy from smosh
>>541221989its further compounding the issue by creating a greater overhead on the amount of changes you have to blindly make in order to actually move the game in the direction youre intending tothe existence of antiheal tends to further increase the importance of healing and prompt further healer buffs, which is obviously retarded if healing is overtuned and youre acknowledging that by way of adding antiheal to begin with
>>541222136Putting a drone + over shields on your supports is one of the better counters against dive heroes. That’s one of the reasons why ultron was good
>think maybe the thinks aren't that retarded, maybe i'll re-install>see this patchNope, game staying uninstalled. Time to play some Ghost of Yotei instead.
Iron Fist will allegedly be the anchor of a future team-up between him and Daredevil called 'Dragon’s Breath,' allowing Daredevil to heal himself.
>>541222259>Psylockenice
A new skin theme called "Formula R" is in the works and Psylocke might be the first contender for this skin line we'll see tomorrow.
I rather have Role queue than deal with Triple Support or Triple DPS again. >Ultron nerfNiggers.
>>541221658qt
>>541222259>- Spider-Man (Black and Gold)probably the from No Way Home, but i'm hoping it's the one that recently debuted in the comics (pic related)
>>541221737I said anti-heal mechanics tend to create feedback and that blade's introduction is the beginning of that process but retarded kids who never played mmos called me a boomer faggot just because their equally clueless ecelebs mentioned nothing of the sort.Anti-heal is a bandaid design that spreads like cancer. Blade now, venom and daredevil tomorrow.Who is next?
>Insider also told us a Spider-Man emote based on the meme is in the works.
>>541222424And now its the only thing ultron can do. If the enemy team goes ranged dps instead of dive you are 100% cooked and that upsets me
>>541222845The trend is just to slap on whatever new effects they get. Healing reduction, grounding, mobility immobilization, small bonus health, etc.Incompetence and desperation.
>>541222480>going from decent pvp game to straight woke slopGood riddance fagboy
>>541209742>Venom's Ultimate Ability becomes even more menacing for his foes.>- Feast of the Abyss (Ultimate Ability) now applies a 30% Healing Reduction to enemies hit, lasting 4 seconds.Fucking called it they're just gonna keep adding more anti heal instead ever substantially touching the meta supports. Outside of the Phoenix animation cancel nerf its another fucking nothingburger patch. They keep pretending as if the problem with torch is his numbers and not his hitbox or animation cancels and the cloak and dagger nerf might as well not even exist a 200 energy cost increase means nothing for a character with auto aim.And then there's ultron and Jeff. Making Jeff easier to kill is not gonna stop people from picking him and makes him an unnecessary hindrance on your team and the Ultron nerf practically ensure you'll only ever see him in 3 supports comps. They should be buffing ultron so he can survive in 2 but their only enabling the comp instead
4.5 looks like the death nail of the game.Literally skippable.
>>541223068>>going from decent pvp game to straight woke slopKek
>>541222845Daredevil does not have anti healing lol. His ultimate and the team up has the same effect as Cloak's terror cape lowering defense for a brief moment.
>>541222939>Only usable in the arcade mode with duplicate heroes allowed
>>541223068>decent pvp gamenice joke, chang. go back to eating pig feet while pretending you're balancing the game
>>541223068>decent pvp game
>win obvious stomp game by the skin of my teeth>next one has a 3 stack of eternity peaksI'm going to dedicate myself exclusively to elo terrorism and ragebait cheating because I'm far too spiteful of a fag to simply uninstall this chink piece of shit.
>>541222845Its the beginning of the end.
>>541223359Note to anons: be wary of any names involving guitar or bass it's probably me.
I never had this many wins in one day. Yesterday I won like 85% my matches. I'm scared to play again. This has never happened
>>541223213I much rather play chinkslop than sony movie slop starring fat ugly dykes
>>541210918So nothing changes. So a nothing burger like he said
>>541223760Noooooooooo
>>541223760that's not what that tweet says at all
>>541223760jjj, or its pointless
>>541223071>They should be buffing ultron so he can survive in 2No, they should not
>>541213124Maybe if his ult didn't heal so people just ignored it like in season 1 but that shit barely stays up for a second these days
>>541223760>replace GalactaI dont want to
>>541223856Maybe I misread it but this is tailored to your own personal voice right?
>>541224186it means you can add filters to your own voice when using voicechat
With all the 2099 skins in the game, and with Doom 2099 being one of the main antagonists(?) For the overarching season, are we going to get a 2099 season near the end of the Doom arc?I don't even play Spider-Man, but a proper 2099 skin for him would go brazy. Although they might just release that when Beyond the Spider-Verse comes out. No way Miguel's getting in anyway.When Ghost Rider makes it in (And he will), give this nigga a 2099 skin with a chainsaw hand emote and it'd be peak.
My bad but this is actually a voice changer for ppl speaking in-game with their comms.>>541224292Ok thxs for that.
>>541224380Hehehehehehehe you idiot you fool you buffoon you retard you simpleton you nincompoop you incompetent Isiah
I still want guardians v1 Groot
>>541214618>nerfing a support that was only strong in tripple support comps and ensuring he can only be played in them instead of nerfing the other supports is good actually
>>541224371Hulk 2099 would be so kino, too bad he will never get a skin again.
>>541223760i will replace her with Luna Snow announcer!
>>541224849There is no change the announcer option
>>541224750>can only be played in themYes, and?Thats already the case if you arent throwing
>>541224380>>541224686I want a voice filter that changes everything you say to "I am Groot"
Protect your goddamn backlines, ya damn idjits.
>>541224927oh..
>>541222845With how strong healing is we'll have to wait and see how powerful anti-healing can be on other more impactful heroes because so far blade has been consistency mediocre and using gimmick hasnt been game changing to the meta in the slightest. Venom getting it on his ult gives him some much needed utility but right now anti-heal still seems niche as an issue compared to cc, over shield, and invincibility
>>541215509Don't argue with the retarded shills. They just defend every retarded decision netease makes and deflect to adhoms when you try to have an honest discussion on how things work and the state of them with them. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even play the game and just come here to shitpost
>>541222845uhmm daredevil has no anti healing??
>>541223653That doesn't mean one ofvthem doesn't still suck
>>541215368>Triple support emerged after they buffed Mantis.Is what I would say if I was and had the memory of a gold fish.
>>541224380i will finally be a girl!
>>541217596>the amount of streamers for the early access events keep decreasing each seasonGrim
>>541209742They done did our boy dirty
>>541225527Yeah they did please play Luna instead don't you love Luna?
>>541225527If they want to keep nerfing his Drone they need to make the Tony Stark heal laser baseline so I have something I can keep people alive with.
>2 games in a row where I lose because my supports just aren't playing the gameThis is why I am a support main. You cannot trust randoms to play support for even a second.
>>541225648Nope. Remove all healing. Buff damage and flight.
>>541224849*licks*
>>541218719The healing uptime doesn't matter if everything out damages it and you have to wait behind cover for two business days to get back to full health>>541219112His drone remains on you and heals in an aoe so long as you remain in los>>541219359Notice how you had to narrow it down from shooters to hero shooters? And even then your still wrong apex beats rivals on players daily
>>541217596only 12? It's over
>>541224371According to this season’s intro text, Season 0 was supposed to be 2099, but a more focused season later on would be really cool
>>541222097If by grounded you mean grounding fliers, that's absolutely fair and I say this as someone who frequently uses fliers.
>>541225829>Notice how you had to narrow it down from shooters to hero shooters?yes retard, thats the genre - hero (arena) shooter>apexNot a hero shooter
>>541224949___I am Groot__
>brown anon who spam replies to multiple people with inane bullshit is back
>>541220015>ultron was all that effective in 2-2-2 comps before so its a good thing they absolutely gutted him ensuring he can never be played in it all instead of making him effectiveAre you guys fucking retarded?
>>541226032you are also brown
>>541224371A GR 2099 skin would be pretty nice ngl
>>541225926The grounded effect is way more annoying when I'm on someone like Magik, Spiderman, or Psy than when I'm on Torch.
>>541225640No I don't i hate trannies and trannies always gravitate towards lunab
>>541220941B..But guang and his team are innocent they give me swimmsuit skin so they never do wrong
>>541226203>>541224757Agree with these, Venom 2099 would be nice too
I hope they don't fuck up the maestro skin like they did with the future foundation ones
Storm needs a buff
>>541226243Still more fair than Luna freeze or Mantis sleep desu. There needs to be a way to even the playing field with characters who have superior mobility and especially against fliers.
>>541226085>ultron was all that effective in 2-2-2 comps beforeNever happened
>>541225648Facts. The Iron Man team up is now an absolute must if you play Ultron in a 2-2-2. Otherwise he'll only be useful in a triple heal comp.
>>541224938You faggot any competent designer would be buffing or reworking him so he's versatile enough to be played in any comp instead of being stuck in the one comp everyone is already tired of that gimps his damage. Just because that's already the precedence doesn't mean its something good
>>541226554Shes black so nothey don't like the black heros at all
Rape support sissies
>>541225950>yes retard, thats the genre - hero (arena) shooterAnon said pvps you had to narrow it down to hero shooter because you know you'd be wrong if you said rivals was the only relevant pvp game
>>541225648>>541226743Yeah this change is quite bizarre. They should've only made his ult cost more at best.
>>541226869no..
>>541226869I do so every day
>>541226869wew
>>541226642Meant to say wasn't but you get the point
>>541226754Some supports arent meant for 2 healer - Adam, Mantis, UltronYou're retarded and would just make every healer a copy of Luna/IW/CnD lol>everyoneSpeak for yourselfThere's nothing bad about 3 support and it can already be beaten by 2-2-2 just fine
>>541226203Gr isn't happening boys >>541226554Nah her ultimate is annoying to counter on most
>>541226554She's like A tier and has one of the most obnoxious teamups in the game
>>541226562Yeah I mean you aren't wrong, I just feel like it's pushing the game to be even lower skill. Bucky doesn't need to ground you to blow your brains out. And the more characters have it the less I'll be able to press my buttons.
>>541227129>Gr isn't happening boyswhy?
>>541209742>buffing the most braindead part of Psylocke's kitkek fire zhiyong he's a fucking retard
>>541184318Gross faggot post>>541184371Cope>>541184391Looks ugly
>>541227162Bucky is a ranged character though, not everyone is. And again, I've used a lot of fliers, who without a grounding ability are particularly dangerous, not just divers. At the same time, it's not like you can't dodge grounding abilities.Moves that make you exiled are harder to deal with.
Voice changer to larp as a girl and trick rivals simps
>>541226554She needs some QoL polishing because I'm tired of playing taxi driver with manual transmission.
>its yet another "Rocket forgets its also a big ass gun as well and only does 876 dmg the entire fucking game" episode
>>541227129>Nah her ultimate is annoying to counter on mostwithout Jeff combo her ult is whateverAnd she is by far the most vulnerable flier
>>541185254>>541185481>>541187025Damn Venom calm down!
-The rocket ult buff will be great. Maybe it's time for me to finally learn him-The jeff xrit nerf will be very painful to adjust, especially playing against hitscanners. Maybe i'll drop him in 4.5...-Ultron nerf is a complete joke. He's fun to play as a strategist, but now he'll most likely be picked purely by dps when their kda goes negative instead of actually healing-The venom antiheal...guess nerfing healing is out of the roadmap abd devs will instead start bloating mechanics instead of nerfing shit
>>541227438Rocket cannot shoot and heal at same time
>>541227462She's got one of the best ults
>>541227393so excited..
>>541227051You don't have to make every support a Luna/IW/CnD clone to make them viable in double support and the fact that you think that shows me how narrow minded you are and how few games you probably play outside of of rivals>it can already be beaten by 2-2-2 just fineWhen will you disingenuous fags stop parroting this? No ones problem with triple support is if it can beat 2-2-2 its that it turns games into drawn out slugfests where team fights last way to long. It's not about it being effective its about it being unfun to play against
this nigga said 'learn' rocket LMAO
>>541222480Come on dude. You're right but there are some legitimately solid games out right now and you choose that of all things lmao
>>541187254Not bad actually. Probably the most effort they’ve ever put into one of these by far.>>541187483They definitely do for some of them but it’s very slight usually so meh.>>541187735I wish she actually looked like this.
>>541227558It's literally the press of a different button
>>541227539The Ultron thing is really unfortunate for those of us who actually played him like a healer. Yes, his drone is nothing spectacular but his Iron Man team up and Ult made up for it.
>>541227664>You don't have to make every support a Luna/IW/CnD clone to make them viable in double supportYeah you do. At least their healing outputOtherwise they suck lol (like Ultron does right now in double support)>When will you disingenuous fags stop parroting this? No ones problem with triple support is if it can beat 2-2-2 its that it turns games into drawn out slugfests where team fights last way to long. It's not about it being effective its about it being unfun to play againstSounds like a (you) issue.
>>541227539Rocket has always been great. His revive machine alone is very useful. Other healers just have ults that make you immortal, but it's a matter of short term gain vs long term sustain.
You can tell who are getting skins from the "balance" changes prepare for psylock,blade and reed skins boys
>>541227734cannot shoot and heal at same time
>>541226203First he has to actually be in the game before you talk about skins buddy
>>541224971>a no heals comp that cant get killsThey've no one to blame but themselves, honestly
>>541227745>but his Iron Man team up and Ult made up for it.Not really. If I got an Ultron in double support I was already preparing for a loss.
>>541192728That seems unlikely.>>541193093There is no point just don’t buy them.>>541197905Except that’s not what that actually says. If it’s true it could be huge because it seriously muddies the separate characters thing but I doubt it is.
>>541227867Ultron works in double support but you have to multitask quite a bit, and no one on your team even realizes the work you've had to put in a lot of the time. This new nerf will make him the least picked healer, imo.
>>541228062>Ultron works in double supportNope.
>>541219904That's the chinese for you>>541219439Calm down johnny>>541219359Learn to read
>>541199470He has a number of extra outfits>>541199803>>541200198Gross faggot futard shit
>>541227983They're adding him at some point for sure.>b-but chinese skeletonsWasn't an issue in Black Myth Wukong and it's not like they're not animated either.
>>541201540>>541202519trvthbut after her spiderverse skin>>541203120>>541203442>>>/r/eddit
>>541218163Weird dravidian seethe post
>>541228127You could make him work up until now, esp. with the Iron Man team up. Based on the current nerf, he definitely won't work.
>>541228478>You could make him work up until nowYeah if you wanna throw
>>541228281Why do we have to have faggots and trannies in here? I thought they hated marvel
>Ultronfags trying to pretend they were good/viable in double support up to now
>>541217596DD was custom made for Necros
>>541203407He was never your “nigga” and he was never “cooking”. Grow up.
>>541205294too late for that Bluth-anon but another day passes
>>541228659Kys tranny
>>541228062I think they should lean harder into the micromanaging aspect of the character by giving something when you swap the drone around like a bit of blue health. It would make him very demanding and active as a healer and increase his output without just letting him farm his ult passively.>>541197905Your banner and monster Hulk skins. Source? I made it up.
>>541217167Hot>>541217295Ok? Will probably look like shit anyway>>541216359Batman usually has the best AUs period very fun stuff
>>541206478get to sucking Brock then>>541209440yes he is>>541209528god awful nonsense the Chinese have learned literally nothing
>>541219904Take him out of support already he shouldnt even be support in the first place...yea lets make a robot known for cloning and destroying the earth a support...
>>541228659womp womp nigga does this make you mad unc?
>>541228831Ackchuchually narratively it makes sense and the chinks take their story seriously
>>541228529>>541228601Skill issue. You could absolutely make him work with a second healer who does exclusively that instead of larping like a DPS. Now though, he's no longer viable in double support and arguably even triple support. NetEase's mistake was not nerfing all healers in general.
>>541227209They think they can make psylock and wanda ult girls like a moba
>>541228563I've read and liked marvel comics before getting into anime and into futas.
>>541210271>>541210684>>541210790weird shill cryposts
>>541209846>virtually impossible to escapeif you're a fucking Bronze shitter maybe, Psylocke's ult stopped being scary after Season 0 when everyone with a brain learned how easy it was to counter>>541228831>according to lore he should be another dps shitter because we don't have enough duelist faggotsgtfo lorefag
>>541229059Gay futahomo
>>541228831An AI robot being able to heal makes a heck of a lot more sense than Mantis or Jeff.Hell, Loki, a known villain also makes more sense since he's a magic being.
>>541220015Shut the fuck up you retarded faggot, any character should be at least in the realm of OK in a 2s composition. Saying otherwise is just running defense for a bug company
>>541227438It does no damage unless your right next to a tank
>>541228869I'm 21 and I'm still weirded out by the shit younger people say even though I'm the same age as them. I feel like mordecai in that regular show episode
>>541227438If he's doing damage the enemy tanks are rolling over your healers. When your healers are rolled over pinging for heals gets bugged and doesn't work.
Btw buckygods how come we didn't get buffed?
>>541228869What a low quality post
>>541229121>should beCry more faggotAdam doesnt remotely work in 2 support and Adamfags accept thatOnly you Ultrontroons bitch
>Nerf half the supports >Add another dps >Only like 3 tanks are good
Why is nobody talking about Rocket getting back his 40% damage boost
>>541229121>any character should be at least in the realm of OK in a 2s compositionUndisputable fact.
>>541229307I'll second supp as adam and you will like it.
>>541225004Galacta my queen...>>541217596Grim line upPull the plug on these shitty things already>>541213876>>541214039Cringe
>>541224371Yeah for Spider-Man they just need to give him the outfit no clue why they haven’t done it yet honestly >>541224849What a grotesque post
>>541229420because jean exists therefore rocket has no ult
>>541229307He's absolutely right you moron. Stop running defense for retarded decisions.
>>541219095The main change this will do for venom is make the timing on his ult insta kill combo more lenient.
>>541229420Because I don't give a shit about that I want his dash back. The 40% will just make him worse (to play) because every team will have one or more retards screaming>roket y u didn ult when i??
>>541229350>backline face when angela,daredevil and magik assaults
>>541229350Magneto and Emma and Venom and Strange and Cap and Hulk are good. Angela is also good but Zhiyong needs to cook.Thor is strong but not as main tank. Penipedos need to stop forcing her everywhere. I am Groot.Ben is the one who may need some help.
>>541229420because it doesnt change the fact you can just shoot the ult while youre invincible in a better support ult
>>541228659kys unc
>>541228751Ultron is already active as a healer if you play him right. That is to say, you're constantly switching the drone's placement while also playing as a DPS, since you need to, to off-set his underwhelming healing. But with this change, all that effort will be for naught. If I want to heal I can just switch to all the other easy characters.
>>541229696>Penipedos need to stop forcing her everywhereTHIS
>>541211690Cute...>>541212164You and everyone else.
>>541229491But jean is permanently banned in my games even if a teammates hovers.
>>541213215Hit the nail on the head>>541212912Kino cappaldi gif>>541212362Chinese nepotism, presumably
>>541229696>Cap is good
>>541212164>I have completely lost interest in continuing playing Rivals after seeing the patch notes.Bye faggot. Dont reinstall.
>>541229685Deserved, when they refuse to nerf healing (aside from the one healer whose healing was never a big issue). Dive needed a slight buff anyway.
>>541229916then this>>541229783
>>541228563Maybe if you're living 40 years ago lol they love it now
>>541229794Hence why I said they should reward that drone swapping in some way. If they take away from his passive healing they should give something back on the active portion.
>>541229916Hela is going to be the number 1 hitscan one more, which means Jean will be less banned, and played more.As a Namor who has to rely on Hela, this is an unfortunate turn of events.
>>541229696nah mag, venom, emma, and strange are the only real tanks, everyone else gets fried by dps and tank mismatches >cap he can't kill jeff at all
>>541230229Good. Hela is hotter and sexier.
>>541230229>Hela is going to be the number 1 hitscan one moreJean will probably still be better than Hela
>>541229350It's about to be 2 with all the *eddit retards parroting streamers opinions wanting another Emma nerf despite having clear weaknesses.
>>541227209Eddie on the bottom btw>>541226541Where is your cute image from? :)
>>541230296>nah mag, venom, emma, and strange are the only real tanksGroot
>>541230296Hulk and Thor can be very oppressive to the backline if you play them right. But Hulk is a pretty versatile tank who is a jack of all trades and master of none, and Thor is just a DPS who complements a second tank.
>>541230458>chooses wolverine
Honestly Jean losing the ammo on dark ascent is an unnecessary nerf. Zhiyong overcooked
>>541229350As long as 3 support is still an option nerfing supports is a nothingburger, they didnt nerf them as much as they should in fact
>>541229116Why would an egotistical robot heal anyone but his own clones...he should have been a dps loki as simple as that
>>541230376>despite having clear weaknessesSuch as? She's still an S-tier tank.
>>541226114That retard has autism just ignore it>>541228336I'm not saying he's not getting in but talking about skins for him seems a little premature when hes probably a good 1 year off minimum. Also i don't think weird animal skeletons count but idk that stuff is weird.
is this guy using a macro or something to do this? i have zero idea about those kinds of things but i heard people talking about it at one point, for bp players specifically
>>541230296>mag, venom, emma, and strange are the only real tanksI agree but when I say Vanguard doesn't limit to meaning damage sponge people ignore me. Regardless most of the Vanguard lineup is good.Ben being Hulk with training wheels just means they need to bite the bullet and give him flat damage reduction.
>>541230670The game needs more healers and him having a drone army that can heal you makes sense. No villains teaming up with the good guys would generally make sense, even if they're DPS. But it does in the context of the game.Furthermore, it makes more sense for someone like Ultron to be a healer than Tony Stark.
>>541228831Yeah i still stand by that it was a weird decision but adding unlikely people into random roles is the only way they know to do this now>>541228659I laughed way harder at this than I should have. Also you struck a nerve.
>>541230528>frozenCLINKCLINK>take a napCLINK>dead
>>541230717>kills nothing what a dogshit character lmao
>>541230917She can freeze anyone, what's your point? She's a 200 HP hero, she should have a get out of jail free card
>>541230376Emma is still one of the best Vanguards in the game despite multiple rounds of nerfs, what does that tell you about her?
>>541230229hope ppl ban namor and not hela
>>541230612The Chinese cant cook. That's why they eat everything that moves. Do not allow the chinese back into the kitchen.
>>541230717>MFW quicksilver is already in the game
>>541230717Sure looks like it
>>541228831Makes more sense than Emma being a tank desu. Plus, it's nice to have a non-dorky healer for a change. I wouldn't mind if they made Doom a healer even though he'll obviously be a tank.
>>541230717180 macro, very easy to set up
>>541230376Emma needs to rape me
>>541231121I can still counter divers with tanks. Base Namor without a team up is one of the most fairly designed characters in the game so if you ban him, it means you're shit in general.
>>541230376>Nerfing emma relentlessly instead of getting rid of cap animation cancels and buffing him properly THATS MAG FUCKING NETO
>>541231185>Women who turns into hard metal shouldn't be a tank
>>541231489>nooo why is my ss++ tier tank now only s tier noooo
Bucky will have anti heal on e next season btw
>>541230376Why they designed her with blue accents and not just white is beyond me
>>541231495She turns into diamond. And she was never as durable as The Thing, Hulk or any of those characters. >inb4 CapHis shield is harder than any of those people combined.But I digress, my argument is that Ulton being a strategist makes sense.
>>541231606Fake news that will be on his hook. Guanguang told me.
>>541231098I remember people trying to say that she wasn't broken on launch What's
>>541231606Bucky having any anti-heal whatsoever would make no sense. With Blade and Venom they can sort of make it work lore-wise.
>>541231489stop interacting with dps and you will stop being nerfed
Adam and mantis nerfs are now the only way to contain the triple support exploit.Any suggestions?
>>541231952>exploitIt's an intended mechanic
>>541231846Hela could have anti-heal, but it would make her too damn busted. Dracula DPS when?
>>541231489im gonna have SEX with Magik and NONE of you can stop me
>>541231952Nerf Adam by giving him permanent flight. This will make him a lot easier to be targeted by the enemy and will surely remove triple support from the game. Trust me.
>>541231952just revert the little burst heal buff mantis got, and revert adam's ult to give over health
>>541231185>Makes more sense than Emma being a tanknah psychics can actually be any role to be fair plus she legit goes diamond....peni/thor should have been dps as well and reed should have been a tank, storm/ironfist should have been support.
>>541231846I'm all for it. DPStards deserve having only 2-3 usable heroes like the rest of us.No shield? throw pickNo circle? throw pickNo bluebar? throw pick
>>541232050>Dracula DPSThat's Blade
>>541232050still waiting on those 5$ you owe me motherfucker
>>541232050remove her crow bomb passive and just make her headshots apply anti heal thanks>>541232239lol in your dreams, you will be a second class citizen and you will like it
>>541231952>exploit.
>>541232229Peni's hitbox is too large for her to be anything other than a tank. Thor is pretty much the most durable person in the team so him being tank was also a given, although he's arguably a DPS.>storm/ironfist should have been support.I don't see how you can make a kung fu character anything other than a DPS. Storm could work for both, just not a tank. Jean should've obviously been a healer.
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>inane brown spammer posts worst idea anyone has ever hadNo surprises there
>giving Venom anti-heal on ult for no reason>not giving BW the execute from Bucky's ultthey just do whatever
>>541231952>AdamHe is genuinely so shit, l really don’t care if I ever see him in triple support. >MantisMaybe making her ult not heal, but have damage reduction and overshields. Specifically so she gets countered by jean and ultron.
>>541231570Yes, the role that carries the game needs to be powerful.Even fucking rito knew this, if the other tanks was as defensive/oppressive and not ult chargers she wouldn't stand out as much.
>>541232239In reality, all characters should be usable, hence why you nerf/buff them until they are equally viable. The issue arises when some of the changes don't make sense, like the new Ultron one for example.
>>541230930yeah ngl only reason i went to spectate at all is because my team completely dogged his on defense all of a sudden and i wanted to know wtf is going on over there, but i just got curious once i saw that>>541231228so what, is it like a button that would simulate a 180 mouse swipe?
>>541232549why the FUCK would they do that?widow should never be buffed
>>541209528>>541210547>>541213630>>541214149THIS UNIVERSE NEEDS A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROTECTORA LETHAL ONE
>>541232549>BW spamming plasma burstSounds annoying and gay. No thanks.
>>541232698Based Reed
>>541232605>He is genuinely so shitI've said it before and I'll say it again, big chunks of burst healing are incredibly useful in clutch situations. The shift is useful, and so is his ult. He's just not a "main" support ala Luna or CnD.An Adam with good aim in a triple support comp can be a serious threat.
>>541231952Actually those supports should stay the same and the others should be brought down so that not playing them in 2 support isn't a throw
>>541227539Its absurd they are buffing Rocket and Nerfing Ultron. Absolutely insane crazy pills they are taking over at NetEase
What if Ultron’s drone granted an AoE burst of healing whenever he lands the second hit of his M1?Thoughts on my idea?
>>541232740That's great but your regular attacks still do terrible damage
>>541232437> kung fu character anything other than a DPSHes literally healing other teammates right now lmao more than ultron even
>>541232698>so what, is it like a button that would simulate a 180 mouse swipe?yes, most programs have it the default presets nowadays, and you can add other inputs with delay afterwards in the macro settings.
>>541232859>An Adam with good aim in a triple support comp can be a serious threat.Which is true but we all know triple support is the devil
>>541232924You know the rules, you little shitfuck. Stream that film
>>541232924And still ultimately a DPS, as it should be. Plus, his healing as a support team ability is barely if ever useful, it's still a selfish ability.
>>541232770She wouldn't get resets just the execute after ulting.
>>541232914Send it to Zhiyong
>>541232914This would incentivize Ultron shooting at tanks which isn't ideal but in a pinch it's better than nothing maybe
>>541232914That'd be too busted imo. In reality they should've just left him as he is. Maybe increase his hitbox a bit or do some shit that fliers in general need to have, especially Human Torch.But to nerf an already underwhelming healing ability is bizarre.
>>541233125You know there's a reason why execute effects are generally give to characters with a short range focus
>>541208924I wish she actually looked like this.>>541229142I’m 23 and I feel the same lol.>>541231846Not seeing how Venom having that would make sense.
you guys think they'll fix the mantis naked tits bug?
>>541233553>bugThey modeled it. Intended feature.
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>>541231654yeah that was just retarded>>541231685>Ulton being a strategist makes sense.nah not really>>541232229>storm/ironfist should have been support.neither of those makes sense>>541232437>Jean should've obviously been a healer.she’s never done that so no
>>541233351It would require the enemy to hear her ult line, wait for her to charge her ult, get hit by it, and then get hit a second time for the execute to happen. Acting like they have no counter play for all of this is retarded.
>>541209742Out of all my team ups, I will miss you the most. Goodbye, Bulk.
>>541232960Least subhuman marvel porn artist
>>541231952We need a real Anti heal DPS and Tank then a cleanse Support to balance it out
>>541232960This is art
>>541233659The role is called strategist for a reason. We can agree to disagree but I think Loki and Ultron being made into strategists a sound decision. >she’s never done that so noWhat do you think Professor X should be, if they ever add him? Because that's basically fem. Jean.
>>541150108Still giggling at this. They should be ashamed of themselves for trying to pass this off.
>winter soldier is allowed to have up to 405 hp
>>541234008he needs it
>>541233731The Luna team up was the best thoughbeit. Dive niggas were in shambles, I remember it like it was yesterday. At the same time, I'm glad they're reviving dive because I want to learn Daredevil.
>>541233981Professor X would be support because that's what he does for his students.
>>541233992I think it'd be fine if it had the same effect Bats has on the hands and legs
>Team mate goes Adam or Mantis>Some other guy locks in third supportGetting real tired of this shit, only one I can understand is Ultron requiring a third support but holy shit, the other 2 are fine in 2/2/2 if the guy playing em can play em.
>>541234163I know it had more utility but as a DPS I enjoy the damage. Every game, win or loss, I try and maintain the most damage done, just as a tank would have the most blocked or a healer the most assists/healing.
>>541234234mantis yes, adam no
>>541232859Sure Adam can cuck with burst heals, and soul bound is great. He is not incredible against sustain damage and poke heroes as his healing is inherently reactive. There’s a ton of opportunity cost within his kit, that makes him worse than an Ultron, who doesnt have to deal with whatsoever. Plus him having to actually setup an ult play means he has to take a step out of the fight. If Adam just had one real good mobility option, or could cut the time between his rezzes he’d be much better
>>541234175Chuck mindrapes his students >>541234234Actually maybe Ultron should be given percentage based healing numbers
>>541234008THE MOST BALANCE HERO ON THE GAME YOU CHUD
I am Groot
>>541234234It's players that dont know how to play other than by having healbots to balance their playstyle of facetanking all the damage from the enemy team without any strategy of taking cover
>>541234175Exactly, it fits him. And Jean is the female version of that, more or less. She's more on the offense as Phoenix, so I guess it makes sense as a dps too, but I still think they should've made her a healer because the game needs more of them.Hopefully the next mutie they add is a healer.
>>541209742>Ultron nerfsthe way they've handled supports role balance is shit>these supports are fucking awful in 222, straight up throw picks>absolute cancer in triple support coordinated compsrole queue and locking teams to 222 would let them design better characters. It would suck to play but things might get better in the long run
>Nerfed Loki>Nerfed UltronSo they just want us to be heal bots?Fuck this game
>>541234008It makes narrative sense because he's been touched by an eldritch abomination and so has unnatural vitality. Very lovecraftian.
As a Hulk Main I like seeing adam on the enemy team
>>541234442>ME FACE TANK IN OPEN AND BE FINE IF LUNA AND CND POCKET MY ASSSurprised I don't have people cry I'm playing Rocket and shooting the enemy.
>>541234234>play adam in 2/2/2>retarded temmates are so used to face tanking everything they slowly but surely start complaining everytime
>>541234481>role queue and locking teams to 222 would let them design better characters.Because? IT JUST WILL OK?
>>541234414Jimmy Kimmel costume for Captain Marvel when?
>>541234442Dps players get 3 supports and still won't kill anything
>>541234234Noooo you don't understand I need two healbots pumping me at all time or me face tanking everything and going negative wont work
Someone switch Strange we need tp I have ult
>>541234337>that makes him worse than an UltronWith this nerf to Ultron, not anymore. Don't get me wrong, I feel like I could get more value as Ultron, but his mobility, escape tools and better angles for sniping are a part of that.With this change, Ultron would be a better default pick as a support.
>>541234008you gotta realize that bucky meta is the least oppressive one in the game, one where dive, poke, and brawl are all viablewe've been through so many metas and ONLY metas where he is the strongest have had diversity in every role vs every other role whos strongest picks completely push out every single other option
>>541234643Hulk benefits from his rez the most
>>541234684Yeah but they aren't dying either so they wont complain. In fact it'll probably make them sit there and stew because they know they only have themselves to blame for their incompetence
>>541234414Carol a qt
>>541234737>I need two healbots pumping me at all timeThis, but unironically2-2-2 needs 2 healbotsit does not need Adam or Ultron
This next update is going to suck ballz,the support players are already shitty as is...they have no idea how to handle any kind of dive and now their healing is going to be reduced...shhhheeiit Im off tank thats for sure
>>541234829>With this change, Ultron would be a better default pick as a support.Meant to say Adam*
>>541234467Jean is not support for any group of people, it's not something she does. Scott sure but that's just out of love and. Whenever she was out being a super hero she was attacking with the rest. She did this because she had telekinesis from her inception something Xavier didn't have which placed him in a supportive role.
>Hela's still the strongest DPS in the game>Buff her>Also nerf Ultron's healing of all things when he has the worst heals in the game
>>541234908That jaw is stronger than Emma's holy shit its like a cinder block was placed where her jaw is
>>541234842>we've been through so many metas
>25 DPS ROSTER BY THE END OF THE YEARhahaAahahahaahah
>>541235129>Hela's still the strongest DPS in the gameFalse
They should add drax and cosmo
>>541234842Both Peni and Thing have been/are good. Not meta, but viable.
>>541234952t.shitter
>>541235234.Kept telling yourself that metal shitter
>Treats QP like competitive and only plays Hela while queuing with a dedicated healslutActually disgusting. Why do I have to put up with this shit
>>541235217*24
>>541229307Running defense for a company without financial compensation. Sad
>>541187240Looks like a man there
>>541235293thing has never been viable, he is like venom except where venom has a huge escape, oneshots, and great team ups Thing has literally nothinghes worse than thor, hes not even good at anti-dive like dps picks are which is why he has the lowest winrates out of all the tankspeni on the otherhand is just a shitter stomper, she will win games against bad players but when the players are good she is a subpar pick you should never lock in
>>541235410i am not a slut!
>>541235410>only plays Hela while queuing with a dedicated healslutThat's how you play poke characters
>>541187483>Do you think some skins have a tactical visual advantage because they are less visually recognizable?I think so desu. I do use them as camo sometimes. It's a negligible difference though.
When I play angela I just throw away the horrible ult as fast as possible and enemy supports counter ult that weak shit everytime.
>>541191178Any source for this or is this more ‘just trust me bro’ armchair sexual health advice?
>>541235482Thing has better damage and more displacement ability compared to Venom and he's a good dive counter. I do think Venom is better but I'm biased, since Venom and Thor are the only tanks I play. Peni is good at holding points, not much else, but still useful and can cause a lot of damage if played right.
>>541235667>Angela ult>Horribleyou may be a retard but a based one. Keep up the good work and spam that shit as often as you can.
>>541234829>>541235014I’d say its definitely very close now. I am not totally sure, as ultron counters overshields since season 4. There’s also the natural advantages of being a flying we’d have to take into account, like having a larger fov, being naturally good against melee heroes, and on demand off angles/high ground
>>541235498Kill yourself tranny
>>541235193>launch dr strange without emma or wolverine picks to crush him>storm after her buffs>phoenix mag>voltron torch>buffed iron fist>luna loki>mantis + adam/ultron jeff>launch hela>launch hawkeye>release emma>gamma iron man>cap after his first set of buffs>groot before all the flying characters and nerfs to his walls>groot + moon knight back when his ult would do twice the amount of damage twice as fastthis games meta changes so often because of the fast pace of balance patches and character releasesremember Dr Strange is CURRENTLY stronger than he was at launch when he was the most picked best character in the game and yet he is considered weaker than he use to be because Emma completely warped the tank roster around her and she SHITS on him
>>541235818Ultron up until now was a jack of all trades, master of none. Now, you have to play him mostly as a DPS, and a damn good one. Otherwise, you're throwing all his use out the window. Yeah, his Ult. is still good, but even it costs more now. They overdid the nerf.
Add sunspot and moonstar
props to the devs for fixing resource rumble. feels good now
>>541235410Yes bully those Qp retards I have no sympathy for dps shitters
>>541205242Damn that actually is really cute… >>541228740Obsessed + mad>>541205376That’s the only body type they know how to give now apparently the voice definitely sucks though
suspicious chat gpt tier posts
>>541234956Nobody is going to heal for shit, don't worry > nerfs to Ultron's drone, the only thing that could save you from BP insta combos> no more Manor team-up> DD is a dive melee DPSI will just join the instalockers, I couldn't care less about winning. Enjoy dealing with Venom, DD, BP and Magik.
>>541235951I miss cap with the Thor teamup
>>541206193Unironically they did yeah
>ctrl+f ultron>112 results ladies and gentlemen, we got him
>>541235951I can shit on Strange with Thor too. But I get your point, and yes, Emma's inclusion changed the tank meta a lot. I'd go as far as to say her inclusion is what changed the game the most in general, along with some of the new fliers.
>>541235667game?
resource rumble is one the best modes on neteases marvel rivals
>>541236212"Good thinking Thor!" echoes in my mind
>>541236023I would just take moonstar. I love roberto but I don't think he has anything to offer.
>>541236212the bucky team-up is such a fucking joke in comparison, it was so much fucking fun blasting fliers with cap
>>541236212god I wish it was storm as the anchor and they just GAVE her back that ability, her kit feels so incomplete now and thor + cap was just a dogshit frontline back thenmaybe it could be passable these days after they were both given sweeping buffs but back then it was just noobbait>>541236293Emma's had the most impact overall, the only thing that comes close is Phoenix comboing with Mag as the first ever counterplay to Luna and Loki ulting back to back
>>541226852except for pretty kitty panther of course
>>541183685When does the season end?
>>541235410Till they remove console players from PC QP it should be shitty for them.
>>541209745Kinda hot
I miss season 0
>>541235951All of that happened inbetween season 0 to the end of season 2. Nothing has changed since 2.5
>many people are talking about ultron nerfs I thought they wouldn't care since he flopped in term of popularity
>>541236687me on the turret
>no barefoot skins in the green costume coin selectionI cope and I mope. (Malice doesn't count, her soles are covered)
>>541236837He's /ourclanker/
>>541227438because every time I shoot all my teammates get destroyed in an instant
>>541236837The thing is, I think Ultron was viable, even in a 2 healer comp, but he did barely enough healing to make it work, and now he doesn't. So this isn't how you kill triple support comps, it's how you enforce them.
>>541227679this, just right click the whole match and jerk off on your other monitor
>>541236802>all of that happened before season 3>including iron fist buffs>ultron release and torch buffs>phoenix releasedid you notice how I only listed previous metas that we got through or did you assume were still in one of those metas?we are currently in a jeff and venom meta of all things and youre retarded enough to type out "nothing has changed" unironically3 support has gone from "plz pick 3 defensive ults to counter theirs" to "why the fuck are we on luna, cloak, and jeff when we need damage, play mantis and adam"its like you fucking morons dont even THINK
>>541218957Underrated post Kek>>541219601>>541220348>>541220364>>541220461Kek so true
>>541236837Im not going to stop playing Ultron. It just becomes even more irritating as my teammates will continue to bitch as moan as per usual.
>>541236494The Bucky team up is a lot of fun... For Bucky.
>Psylocke buffs>Selective healer buffs n nerfs>Blade nothingburger buff>Torch nothing burger nerf>Slapping healing reduction to Venom's ult for no reason>Slapping bonus health to a dps for no reason>Number autism for Iron Fist>OMG look an Angela buff! (Ignore the fact they added yet another CC affect to a character)
>>541237252I'm not going to stop playing him either but only in the context of 3 healers.On the opposite end of the spectrum, CnD, the only other healer I use, I can make work even as a solo healer. So that should tell you how "balanced" things are.
>>541237360Nah the torch nerf was deserved
the new thread...sisters..
>>541237569deserved, but still nothing
>>541237252As someone who plays Ultron, I'll admit his healing capacity seems underwhelming when you're playing with him as a teammate. When I use him I know I can sometimes do a lot of impactful healing, it's just never "felt" when he's your teammate so there's an illusion going on.
>>541236909YOU CANT USE THAT WORD ONLY *WE* CAN USE THAT WORD
>>541237263>"Lets go Bucky">Buck is on cooldown because he already jumped to someone earlier
>>541236687I mean Spidey used to be more viable but so was Punisher. I wrecked so much on him back then. Now, Punisher is at his strongest (ignoring the nerfed turret) and he still takes more work than he used to.
>>541233981Loki is fine. Ultron being a strategist would be perfectly fine too if that’s what the role actually entailed.>Professor XNot at all. Jean has way more in power set. Xavier being a support makes more sense.
>>541237608sis I'm too scared, I know I would do it wrong
>>541237739I have a robot leg and a robot arm do i get to say it
If it wasn't obvious enough to you off healer retards after almost a whole fucking year, the only healers who are allowed to be good are Luna, IW, Rocket. Everyone else is subject to be shit
>>541234234You try front lining on Tank with Adam and Mantis heals. This is why poke is so shit, you get blown up way to fast much faster than Dive which is easy to counter
>>541237959oh...i can make it! it will be a luna snow thread!
>>541237978That cultural appropriation, anon
Next Thread better be an Ultron one or else
>>541238012So long as you quote Dr Strange when you make it I don't think anybody cares
>>541238012Fun, just please no AI friend.
>>541237914The DD team up will be really good though. They'll be a great combo for a 2-2-2, imo. Punisher is one of the best "anti-healers" in the game in the sense that he provides solid damage over time, and Daredevil will likely pop the big targets like watermelons.
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>>541237197Jeff has been meta since 2.5 when he got his rework a little puddle doesn't change anything he's been the same since then and triple support is still meta even if the skin it wears changes its still has been meta for 3 full seasons>ultron releaseThe same ultron you guys spend all day in here saying he's shit? he's not meta>torchHe's been meta since 2.5 and that's still stale and unchanged >phoenix release She's meta but that's not shaking up a meta that's just adding on to it with pokeThere hasn't been any substantial changes since 2.0 hell the only reason triple support looks slightly different know was because loki got gutted and it took the until september to actually do something about him
>>541234414>>541221658>>541234667>>541234908Stop posting this ugly bitch fag
>>541237931Jean is more on the offense than Prof X but she's still been more of a supporting character than a damage dealer like Cyclops or Wolverine throughout her career. She is more passive than most of the X-Men.Ultron could've been a DPS, sure, but a) he'd be too similar to Iron Man b) he has a technological excuse to be a healer and for it to make logistical sense. Mantis being able to heal makes no logistical sense and she is only one because it vaguely fits her compared to other Guardians like Star Lord or Groot.
>>541238012I'd rather take the ai thread over a tranny one
>>541236023Why should they? Sounds like gay literal whos>>541235165It’s to own the chuds
>>541238304I had forgotten she existed. She's def a cutie though, thanks to whoever started spamming her ugly in-movie costume
Thread doko?
>>541236671not happening bitch faggot keep crying
>>541233464Carnage had vampiric abilities in some of the comics but I guess Venom's symbiote doesn't have that.
>>541237914One could say that s0 team-ups were conceptually primitive but, man, they were really fun.
please do the needful and bake sar
oh i actually need to make it..? i was only joking
>>541238690I'm curious if they'll ever be in rotation again
>>541238690I also miss Ammo overload. I liked playing Rocket just to damage boost and ammo overload Punisher bros.
>>541238815ANON GET YOUR HEAD IN THE FUCKING GAME
opening a portal!>>541238927
>>541238848In QP and comp no. They'll show up in an arcade mode that activates all team ups.
>>541239020Makes sense
>>541237252>Im not going to stop playing Ultron.and you will lose many games if its not triple support
>>541237396>CnD, the only other healer I use, I can make work even as a solo healer.lmao CnD is terrible as a solo healeronly Rocket and ~maybe Luna can work (poorly) as solo healereven Invis is better as solo heal than CnD
>>541227393This but unironically and then also asking them for money>>541232050Gaydebros… Drac is buck breaking us…>>541232131Cringe
>>541234592It’s not Lovecraftian at all don’t toss around words like that but yes it does make sense.
>>541235129reddit image>>541236065can i have the source this is really hot
>>541238667I don’t remember Carnage having that either but it would make more sense thematically than Venom at least.>>541238130Lol.>>541238512>def a cutieNope.
>>541238351Ultron would have been better as a tank than anything. His main thing is beating people up close and personal although he of course uses the drones sometime too. Jean is only passive by the standards of people who can pretty much only deal damage but by psychic standards she’s pretty much the most aggressive and potent there is.
We don't need anymore fucking duelist.