Welcome to the Dragon Quest General! Everything related to the Dragon Quest series, also known as Dragon Warrior, is discussed hereFighting Monsters EditionLast Thread: >>539441054>News• Dragon Quest Smash/Grow, a Roguelite RPG for Android & iOS. Closed beta begins October 14, 2025.• Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake. Launches October 30, 2025, on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Dragon Quest VII Reimagined. Launches February 5, 2026, on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.>Now Available• Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.• Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince. Available on Switch, PC, and mobile.• Dragon Quest Builders. Now on PC with all mobile port QoL features.• Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai. Available on PS4, PS5, Switch, and PC.• Dragon Quest Treasures. Available on Switch and PC.>Other Updates• Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of Fate. Officially announced, title revealed. No further details yet.>Guides:• /dqg/ Beginner's Guide to Dragon Quest: https://imgur.com/gallery/kE7vCn2Versions to Play/Buy: https://pastebin.com/TcW5bgqv• DQM3 Resource: https://dev.metalkid.info/DQM3/Monsterpedia• Dragon Quest IX DLC/Treasure Map Searcher: https://pastebin.com/Paf0Ypme• DQB2 Resources: https://pastebin.com/ykdKc201• DQX Resources: https://pastebin.com/kE3XGQNS>Links:• ROMs/Hacks/Mods/Translations: https://pastebin.com/QbQS5i2S• Anime/TV: https://pastebin.com/a2cRRuzi• Music: https://pastebin.com/NceqwLAa• 日本DQ Wiki: https://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/• DQ Art, Guide Books, Non-H Doujins: https://pastebin.com/GnaCV4vW>OPhttps://pastebin.com/RSbUEyfQ>BROTHERS IN ARMS>>>/vg/eagg/
https://youtu.be/p1C45Qhn_l8
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We must become better Heroes
>>541225740Wow
>>541225740>tfw smellibel
to that DQX anon, why did the crazy goddess bring the Gittish Empire back?
>>541241484Also, I see that screencap of yggdrasil talking to you about the events in dqix. Does the game ever mention the world tree is formerly Celestria, daughter of Zenus, and presumably older sister to Zenesia, Luciana, etc?
>>541220956agreed
>>541253784Is this in terms of the games' quality, or just the protagonists?
Genuinely surprised they didn't tone down the accents out of fear of racism accusations or whatever. If anything it actually seems more intense here than I remember from the phone version. I've never been totally sold on the accents but I guess I'm glad they weren't cowards about it.It took me multiple journeys to reach Baharata. Those dog/crab/flying cat/hell nino encounters can really wear away at you if you get unlucky.
>>541257053>racism accusationsNo one cares about pajeets, lassie. Just like gipsies, it's okay to be racist towards them
I care about Meena...
I’m playing XI. It is my first Dragon Quest
>>541265685It's a pretty good Dragon Quest, enjoy
Any Dragon Quest X players here?I just got to version 3. FUCK Anlucia, cheating on me with a damn horse. Estella is my new wife
https://www.premiumoutlets.co.jp/sp/dragonquest/
>go to preorder 1+2 on switch>the fine print says the pre-order bonus is available to customers who pre-order the game before 23:59 on 11/29/2025Weird Typo
For the first time in years I'm starting to actually get a little excited for a DQ release.
>>541278038Yeah, 1 and 2 needed this a lot more than 3 did.
How old is the hero of 7? He looks like a baby.
>>541280535all of them are midgets in DQ7.
A thought I had is that by now a bit over half the mainline series is available on PC in some form, making them all accessible forever. If they actually decide to do something with the Zenithian trilogy and shit out a half-assed 8 port, that's the entire series available on one platform...Except THAT one.
>>541283556The entire series is available on 3DS already. Even THAT one. Or at least it was until they finally shut it down last year.
>>541283556Technically the entire main series is available on PC with emulation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuiKLZfmOzU
Glad they added multiple monster encounters to DQ1, Ortega is his ancestor and he solo'd his way to Zoma's doorstep so it makes sense.
>>541257053it's not racists if it's true, and that's how indians actually talk. Especially the scams and spam calls ones
>>541273865Cute wives
>>541280535He's 17
>>541278462I started with 1&2 for GBC and still have fond memories of them, so these remakes are a net-positive in my mind. Waiting for these first was worth it.
Is The Mark od Erdrick manga any good? I ordered volumes 1-3 of Dai and would like to read more DQ manga. I already watched the DQ Dai remake and liked it a lot.
>>541302139So he's a baby.
You know, with all the added effort they're putting in to make DQ2 the absolute finale of the Erdrick arc, I'm wondering if there's still going to be more plot after defeating Hargon and Malroth. It'd be a real surprise if you're sent to the DQ3 world to continue the adventure there.
>>541329541Didn't Erdrick make his way back there at some point? He disappears at the end of 3 only leaving behind his legendary equipment and the Dragonlord is from that world. Maybe the DQ1 remake will explain.
>>541334898Either way, ending it on Malroth feels rather weak, especially now that Hargon is retconned to have been the power behind the Dragonlord as well. Feels like he's got even more up his sleeve this time.
I got a 100% DQ3 remake save file ready to go just incase it adds something to 1 & 2 remake, I thought I remember them saying something about needing a 3 save for the true ending.
>>541339932I wouldn't mind Hyper Neo Giga Calasmos turning up as the very very final boss just to cap off the whole trilogy +1. I don't usually care much about connections between the games and I don't want more of them, but if there was ever a time to lean into that stuff it's with these games.
>over 10 hours into my replay of VII (PS1)>can't take out bosses now without at least someone dying>can afford only two new pieces of equipment at best without going bankruptAm I just not grinding enough? I don't remember the early game being this brutal.
>>541347306Forgot to mention I'm level 12 and currently doing the second town that was petrified by the gray rain.
They just throw prayer rings at you, I swear the most I've gotten in any previous game is maybe 3. Too bad, I'm still gonna hoard them until the final dungeon.
>>541348358Why do you have 3 warriors?
>>541350906>>540919473
>Oh boy, I can't wait to try out my new 6000G gusterang>90% of enemies resist itI see.The reduced gold really feels like the limiting factor on draconian mode, much more than the XP. That's only really noticeable when you kill metal slimes.
>>541356902You barely even need to buy equipment in the 3 remake you get tons of free gear from sparkly spots and treasure chests.
>>541358443Maybe if you know in advance it's more helpful, but most of the sparkly spot stuff is outdated and only useful for selling. It's also harder to benefit from treasure gear when I'm running a gimmick party with three characters who all need the same stuff. On a replay with a sane party I could see it being much less of an issue.
I'm playing Dragon Quest XI with Japanese voices, can't be bothered to install Japanese text patch though, and noticed that the English script adds and changes little things here and there. Why are they writing fanfic?
>>541362359Hendrik is a cooler name than Greg
>>541362359Because Horii doesn't give a shit what they write in English so long as the games sell. Not like he understands it.
>>541256675the games. gameplay over story. 6 and 7 may switch places depending on the zenithia games being reimagined or hd-2d
Is XI S the hardest game to 100%? Main story TickingtonAll mini medal rewardsAll monster types defeatedAll items foundAll equipment +3 on the fun size forgeTimewyrmAll accolades
>>541369050DQ7 would probably tie it, at least.>Main story>Bestiary>Items>Mini medals>Haven>Monster Meadows>All jobs and abilities, including monster jobs>3DS Tablets (including "inaccessible" DLC)
How many of you have pre-ordered 1 + 2 HD ? I'm thinking about it so I can get the bonus stuff.
>>541371204Eh, it's just extra items to ease up on the early game grind. DLC in DQ games generally don't offer much you can't get elsewhere or later.
>>541371204I'm considering doing it but not for the bonus crap.
>>541371204I imagine the elevating shoes will make DQ1 piss easy at the beginning of the game with you gaining a level every battle.
>Playing 3HD for the first time>Haven't bought new gear yetAlso, how's this teamHero - GeniusMage - VampThief/Wrangler - Bodybuilder
>>541378037The ideal personalities are more like:Hero - Lone WolfMage - GeniusThief - VampWrangler - Tough Cookie
>>541379024Nah, you can do better than those.
The optimal party is one with personalities that match the backstories you wrote in a notepad in class, wishing you were playing DQ3
>>541371204me
>>541281879Society peaked in the late 90s. Red-headed tsundere heroines will never be topped.
>>541348014I'm playing through the 3DS version of VII and I'm not having that problem, hovering around 2-4k gold. I upgrade equipment if they're significant enough. I was around level 17 by the time I got access to jobs.
>>541371204I preordered but I'm not going to open the bonus chest. I did the same for III.>>541378037I'm of the opinion personalities aren't worth worrying about unless you're roleplaying.
>>541390030>I'm of the opinion personalities aren't worth worrying about unless you're roleplaying.They affect stat growth it can make a character shitty if they have a bad match for their class.
>Get to the desert>Grillerpillars casually have two turns and aoe fire attacksIts a thing that that I can buy boomerangs.
>>541399584Early on it's good to have characters with boomerangs and whips
>>541390012I only had close to 4k after doing everything with the robot wife arc. That quickly got mostly spent on a Blade Boomerang for 2300.
>>541209050>/dqg/ - Dragon Quest GeneralHuh what happened to the other g? it used to be /dqgg/
>>541343291I was thinking more along the lines of Hargon transforming himself into the most unspeakable demon king like Mordregon did, because it seems the theme of this new take on the Erdrick arc is history repeating itself after DQ11.
>>541425490>dragon quest general general???
>>541427219Dragon Quest Games General maybe? he's probably mixing it up with another general.
>>541427181>Malroth is defeated>Hero stands on top of him>https://youtu.be/Q1wR69VyTHU?t=726>Prince of Cannock
>The Princess of Cannock was meant to play a major role in a scrapped alternate ending, which Yuji Horii revealed in an interview with Monthly LOGiN magazine in May of 1987. The Prince of Cannock would sacrifice himself to destroy Malroth, possibly using Kamikazee, and would save the world at the cost of his own life. The remaining Luminaries would return to their homes, and during the victory celebration at Midenhall castle the Princess of Cannock would enter the scene with a short sword in her hand. Mourning the loss of her brother and blaming the Prince of Midenhall for his death, her cousin would slump to the ground as the credits began to roll
>>541425490>>541427980maybe you're thinking of /eagg/
DQ7 having modern generic Ubisoft tier menus looks soulless as fuck
Is it just me or is our boy Erik a little zesty
>>541436528In Japan it's totally straight
>>541428231>>541429531Remove the Prince's sacrifice and it can easily work as the segue to a new post-game. Matilda tries to stab Gawain but is foiled, and then Rubiss's power exposes her as being possessed by Hargon. He's forced to flee his host and the Scions must now give chase to reach the true final battle.
>>541427219Simply ignore, it's just some subhuman retard that started asking this question in 2022. Comes back every now and then to pretend dqg was dqgg at some point, when it never was.
Haven't played 3HD yet, not not sure if I should play it now or wait for 1-2HD and play them in order
>>541454471the order they said they want people to play them is specifically 3-1-2 though, likely has to do with something they added to 1 or 2, so you can just start with 3
>>541454471They released 3 first on purpose.
>>541454471>>541454657wait i forgot they also already added something to 3 in that regard, though it's very minor (but i guess it does make the 3-1-2 order make sense, even if again it's very minor)
>>541454471At the end of 3 it says "to be continued in 1 & 2 HD-2D"
>>541454657>>541454939>>541454986That settles it then>>541454845I thought they were originally going to only remake 3 and decided later to also remake 1 and 2
>>541454471Have you played earlier versions of those games before? Do you know what the connections between them actually are?In the end it probably doesn't matter much. I'd play III first just because they added more facings to the sprites in I+II and losing that would drive me crazy.
26 days until I + II remake
I saw a trailer with the 7 protagonist named Arus but I thought that was Erdrick's name? Also the DQ1 protagonist is named Solo in the trailers but that was the 4 protagonist's name before. They need to get their shit in order.
>>541454986The original games said that, too.
I never realized how much cuckoldry was in VII until my replay>maribel ditches you upon entering town to go flirt>woman at the entrance remarks how she's sorry for you that your girlfriend ditched you like that>iirc maribel kinda falls for you later so the ntr goes both ways>i just did the one town that has a love triangle, iwan was banging his maid but wants linda instead, linda wants pepe, pepe leaves forever, linda settles for iwan, the maid remains cucked>remember that later kiefer full on ntr steals someone else's girl and stays in the past to breed herLike holy shit I'm not even 20 hours in and this is really prevalent. Horii must have been feeling some type of way while writing for this game.
>>541458852Same thing happens in the OG FF7 with Tifa
>>541458852Yeah, it's just another reason 7 is kind of weird and off-putting. I get that it's supposed to be bittersweet but it rarely tugged at my heartstrings, it just made me kind of uncomfortable or annoyed most of the time.Soup robot is the best girl.
>Man, this isn't too bad>Meet the Ripper of the Rift who almost wipes my party with a Woosh > Swoosh combo
>>541454657So far, the only things you get from 3 is bonus outfits for 1 and 2. I have seen no reason to not start with DQ1 like we're actually supposed to.
>>541463860You're not supposed to start with DQ1 anymore, Horii made 3 the new starting point.
>>541466785And I'm still not doing it. At best, I might play 3 before 2, but never before 1.
>>541467002you WIRR do it anon-san
>>541467464Fuck you, you senile old gambling addict. At this point, you're just waiting to follow Toriyama and Sugiyama.
>>541463860there's also bonuses to and from 1+2 and VII reimagined. Further proof VII reimagined will come with caravan heart packaged in
>>541468332>VII reimagined will come with caravan heartVII Reimagined doesn't even come with all of VII
>>541468458cause they had to make way for caravan heart obviously
Didn't realize they showed off so much gameplay of DQ1 remake in Japan it has the beginning part of the game and they even compare it to the original with Horii there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1snWcs8OzXI
I don't care about Caravan Heart but I would buy another port of DQ8 if it came with Yangus's Mystery Dungeon
Wait what is the puff-puffWhat the fuck is the puff-puff???In the hot springs of all places???
>>541477912
>>541478125Toriyama...
>>541469094DQ1 Remake looks really interesting now that there's more enemies to deal with.
>>541477912Big fat hot sweaty Japanese tiddies...
I bet the underwater part of DQ2 remake will require Lorelei's harp and that will be its connection to DQ11
Cetacea will be the flying mount because Ramia went off dimension hopping
>>541484967Ramia is in the logo for 1 & 2
>>541485379She shows up at the very end and fusion dances with Cetacea to become Empyrea so she can take you to the final boss's dimension. Promise
>>541488285Sis there's a giant cat following your group around
>>541488285Grorious jipangu
>>541488285Correction time!
>>541362359>>541364817Horii specifically requests these types of changes actually. The Elizabeth horse episode that gets posted every now and then is quite literally him demanding for an absurd name change as early as DQIV.This is likely all rooted in advice Square Soft gave him back during the merger days, when he was trying to make DQ8 a breakout hit internationally.
How important is class changing in DQ3 HD? In the original I never did it except to get a Sage. I figure with all the new abilities it might be more useful.
>>541506658class change stuff only really matters for post game desu.
I've really warmed up to the artstyle, but every once in a while it hits you with something weird like this. The DS games would do stuff like this too sometimes, but the low-poly models and low-res textures in those fit in a lot better with the sprites.Bazoom was a better name than Blasto.
>>541511247kinda weird we havent gotten a VR remake of swords. or really any VR game.
>>541508034Tthey just wanted Erdrick's equipment to look good since you don't see it in combat aside from the sword and shield.
>>541508034Most "HD2D" games don't even bother making the characters look like they actually fit in with the environment which is largely why they, the DQ HD2D remakes especially, have the look and feel of being fan projects. The only game that actually tried was the Star Ocean 2 remake. We've had games from over 20 years ago that did a much better job of mixing 2D characters with 3D environment
I wandered into picking up the Ultimate Key first, which I'm pretty sure is exactly what happens every single time I play DQ3.I love the search for the orbs. It's almost funny how much more compelling this part of 3 is compared to getting the boat in 11. I really don't want DQ12 to be generic open world slop, but I hope it's more open-ended like this.
>>541512947The SO2 remake isn't HD2D
>>541512868Someday Horii-san will give us the Debora's Room VR Experience
>>541515958Doubt it. Horii just pretends this slut doesn't exist.
>>541516676based horii
It's odd that 3 HD-2D points you to Theddon first when its boss battle is harder than most of the other orb locations. I guess they want you to get on the trail of the ultimate key and that's the only way.
>>541517274You can't fight the boss until after you get the Ultimate Key.
>>541517663Right but then you go back first and get btfo if you don't have decent AOE spells
>>541517806Oh. Well I guess that's a possibility. A smart player should recognize that he could come back later, if he's having too much trouble.
Is DQ3 HD-2D the easiest version of the game?
>>541506658In HD it's a big tradeoff. The real good skills and spells are earned much later, but if you class change you can have a wider variety of lower level skills now. Both options are valid, do whatever makes you happy.
>>541520664All depends on your party setup but they nerfed the most broken class a bit now.
Psaro molesting Solo-kun...
Does anyone know at what point you get the Gallopolis Pass in DQ11? I got to the Gallopolis checkpoint and the guard said I needed a pass, but apparently I obtained one at some point and let me through? It's not a big deal but I want to follow the story to a T and it kind of bothers me that I didn't realize I had this
>>541543863Nvm Veronica and Serena explain that they came here when they were searching for the Luminary... I guess it's their pass
This game is too horny
>>541545464Do it, laddie. Experience all sorts and forms of the fine craft called Pafu-Pafu there's an achievement if you do them all
>>541547653I was raped
>>541548234And I'm sure it was a wonderful and meaningful exprerience <:)
>>541458852To add to this>Maribel: "Hero, would you get jealous if you saw me hanging out with another guy?">Yes>"Tee hee hee, I'm so naughty!">battle party chat>Maribel: "Leave these ones to me, if I can tame Orka, I can tame anything!"Which part of Orka do you think she tamed?
>>541456782That means I have have 26 days to beat DQ11...
>>54155183425 now.
>>541551834Easily doable unless you plan on doing the postgame before then as well.
Ordered DQ3 yesterday and a racial minority is delivering it to me today.
>>541554769Why is this necessary
>>541555126Local stores didn't have it
How does one even learn Kamikazee? You can't really practise it
>>541548737Did 3DS remake change it? I thought the Armor shop guy dumped Maribel for some big tits on PS1 and that's why she followed us because she was angry.
>>541556647I definitely don't remember that happening, but if my memory is just wrong on that, its one more instace of ntr for the pile in VII.
>>541556983Actually I could probably find out after Kiefer leaves for good. Kinda locked into that segment now, but I'll see what Orka has to say after I get back to the present.
I wish I learned that DQ kind of forces you to answer yes to most questions earlier. Prince Faris' reactions to being told no are so funny
>>541556647If he does get a new girl, it definitely isn't until later. As of Kiefer's leave, he's still all over Maribel.
>>541561240There's always a second playthrough
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>>541561887I'll probably do a full-Japanese playthrough sometime afterwards if I like the game enough
>>541551834I just beat DQ11 again it took me 136 hours and it would take even longer if I felt like grinding for the superboss.
>>541567960I haven't dumped nearly that many hours in a game in... probably forever. The closest I've gotten recently was with Civilization V, where I dumped over 70 in two weeks, but that's a given...
I always wondered if the Team Rocket base in Pokemon Gold/Silver where the Persian statues set off alarms was based on this dungeon.I was doing pretty well, then a Lump Shaman double frizzled me. The earthenwear armor was a trap, I bet I'd have survived in my magic armor.
>>541562047My bad, this old man says this line about Orka leaving his girlfriend before and after Maribel and Orka disappear from the armor shop, so I've been misremembering all these years.
>>541574915*leaving WITHI've been playing the 3DS remake, but the PS1 version is just fine to me. The 3DS world map is fuck huge and everything else is more streamline, but I prefer the simplicity of the original and the straightforward translation instead of having lisps, accents, and foreign languages.
>>541556335Bump
>>541587654Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!
>>541587654is 6 the most underrated and underremade DQ?
>>541587924>underratedYeah, it's pretty good. Not the secret best in the series or anything, but solid.>underremadeEven as a IX hater that has to be IX. I was going to say VI got the most underwhelming remake but that has to be VII.
>>541588212I get to hear Aoi Yuuki voice Maribel in the reremake?!
RAPE?!Damn, Horii really neutered Dark Quest with its current iterations.
>>541529589what's that armentalist looking at jacquline like that
>>541590437"They raped us of our women" means they kidnapped them. If they had raped them it would say "They raped our women". It's an old way of using the word.
I really like the towns in 3 HD-2D. They hit a great balance of globetrotting variety while still feeling 100% like cozy Dragon Quest towns. I might even like them better than the ones in 8 or 11.>>541595042>Horii-san raped DQ7 of three islands
Serena wearing the Gallopian clothing is canon and I refuse to believe otherwiseAlso is there something going on between Prince Faris and Sylvando...?
Damn, this first casino in PS1 VII is real stingy. Can't win worth a damn on any of the slot machines. I know its not like this the whole game cause I remember maxing out my tokens twice in the final casino by just rubber banding my X button down on the slots and letting it run for a few hours.
>>5415879249 really needs a remake that makes it less grindy.
>>541600865Alright, nevermind, I'm good now. Won the jackpot with my last couple tokens.
Wait is DQ still a niche series in the West?
>>541604198Not as much as it used to be, but it hasn't had a big obnoxious breakout.
>>54160419811 made it a bit more popular in the west
>>541587654oh hey it's flea
All I'm saying is, we don't know for sure that Ashlynn *doesn't* have a penis
>>541458852Horii literally started cheating on his wife with a staffer during the writing of this game, no joke. They didn’t divorce for several years but eventually they did and he officially got together with his affair partner. He gave his ex-wife one billion yen in damages even though the judge ruled for a smaller amount.
>>541595042I was being obtuse.>>541604198Dumbed down for children when most players are 20+Pointless rewrites by localization team because they think it's boringEvery name has to be a punDragon Ball art style can be off-putting if you didn't grow up with Dragon BallPeople aren't as big of a weeb as before and don't care it was popular in Japan>>541616116Damn, these people really can't help themselves with sharing their kinks, like Motomu Toriyama who has to put NTR in everything he writes.>gave special thanks to his mistress>divorces his wife 20 years after and marries mistress in 201613 year age gap coincides with time between each VII remake release date, 2000 OG, 2013 3DS, 2026 re-imaginedThanks Anon, now I will associate VII with infidelity from now on.
>>541617649I know you’re being a little facetious but I personally doubt it was a kink thing and more something that was on his mind so it bled into the writing. The guy seems to be fairly sincere and otaku-y even though you clearly have to be a savvy businessman to be in his position. For many years he was very hands on with the dialogue writing for all the scenarios but it seems like he’s slowed a bit over the years. Dev anecdotes make it sound like it’s very common to pitch a lot of stories to Horii and get them rejected because he is very particular. The games are his life work and he truly cares about them.
>>541616116>>541617649>Damn, these people really can't help themselves with sharing their kinksSeriously, reminds me of that artist who made a short doujin based on middle schoolers he was hooking up with and even went as far as to give the girls not only the same looks, but the same names too.
>>541620573WHAT
>>541616116my new headcanon is:Arus = HoriiMaribel = first wifeAira = sexy college grad tester
Wasn't the headline "Yuji Horii dumps Bianca for Flora"?
>Think about replaying DQ9>remember that most of the quests are just very obnoxiously designed and unfun to do>lose all interest
>>541623365I remember when people saw the noticeboard prop in the trailers for III HD-2D and thought it was going to have IX-style sidequests and I'm really glad that didn't happen
>>541620928Yeah, it happened this year, it was one of the Fire Emblem Heroes artists, Gaou. He made a doujin based on a 14yo girl he shagged multiple times (and her 13yo friend she brought with her to join as well) then years later this dude is married to a another girl who he started dating while she was 17 I think, has a kid with her and all, but he cheated on her with another teenager like last year I think, and then ghosted said teenager. The teen wanted to know why he ghosted her so she go out of her way to get in contact with him and he just goes full spaghetti everywhere and admits to everything on a livestream.That's the gist I got from it at least. There's a lot of different info surrounding it, like whether or not the girl he ghosted was the one featured in that doujin, but iirc the doujin was too old for the ages to line up or something.
>>541624186what is wrong with people
>>541623741>Game all about mixing and matching vocations for customization>Can't access half of them without doing sidequests that range for simple (Gladiator/Paladin) to tedious (Sage) to obnoxious (Arma)>Luminary literally cannot be used until postgame without save editing, so fuck you if you wanted to try that one out for once>First game to include MMight and MMending, but Mages are gimped by needing a lot of exp to level and spells having very wide level gaps>A billion weapons but most of the fun ones are incredibly limited, so everyone just defaults to Swords/Axes or Spears/filler/filler>The normal sidequests generally suck to do>Grottos are cool from a cameo point of view but take forever unless you have friends
Oh yeah, this sucks ass. Maybe later.
>>541626947Later like level 41 when you get Kazap with the hero
>>541627091Uh, we'll see if Brazil gets me there.
>>541618560Very intelligent poster
Wow, fancy seeing you here! It's like that time we met at your house in Whealbrook, remember that? My dad's sick now y'see, like that time when me dad was sick back when we were kids see. He's really sick, y'know. Why don't you sleep here for the night? Like when you slept at me dads inn when you came over, then we went ghost huntin' for Sabre, right, remember that? Good morning, y'know this reminds me of when we went to sleep after we went ghost huntin', remember that? It was quite the adventure right? Oh, my dad's quite sick see, maybe not long for life, I'd be quite lonely. Remember that promise we made when we was kids? Walking with you to this boat quite like an adventure see I'm so glad we are on an adventure again, like when we went ghost bustin'. You really need to take me with you, can't open the lock without me see. Wow sure have grown up with your big ship n all, reminds me of that time we got that gold orb after we saved the castle from those ghosts. Y'know I've b'in wondering what you've been up to after Whealbrook was destroyed, I was worried for you see, looked all around for you. This cave is something, you're getting married huh? We gotta get that ring, you know, my dad's sick. This is quite an adventure, like when we was kids see. Hey about your marriage.... uh yea nevermind. Guess this is the end of our adventure, went so quickly! Sort of reminded of that time when we had to wave each other off in the morning after we went ghost huntin'. When you get married we can't go on any more adventures anymore, that's why I wanted to go with you see bad see. Hey do you love Nera? I'll have to go back to take care of my dad, since he's sick n all. Nera's quite beautiful, you'll be happy with her, she's all ladylike, not like me. Don't you worry 'bout me, I've been alone for a long time. I'll be fine. Well that's the end of our adventure, just like when we went ghost huntin', back to my sick father now.
https://youtu.be/bXxVPkTuM2w
>>541488285>>541508034Is this the prettiest DQ game?
>>541642750DQ8
>>541639093
What's the intended way if getting to Baccarat for first time? Passing by Argonia first?
>>541624870>>Game all about mixing and matching vocations for customizationBut magic is locked to specific vocations, so you can't have things like Warriors casting healing spells like you could in DQ3.
>>541651547You're allowed to inherit everything except for magic, class specific armor and coup de grace. Class Manuals (the level 2 stuff) can be used as long as you have it in your inventory iirc, so you can have a tank max paladin and pass the magic mending nuke skill onto your priest/sage.
>>541647037Perhaps a wife in this spooky season instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_aNC4iZ7lM
>>541666162Strangely good.
>>541639093>The burnout with a dead-end job who can't let go of that one childhood accomplishmentDragon Quest's Al Bundy.
>>541624870>>541651547Yeah, when I finally got around to playing DQ9 I was pretty disappointed with the class system. I’m hoping DQ7R gives us a fun vocation system. PSX DQ7 did a better job with it than 3DS but it’s pretty simple and doesn’t scratch the build autism itch.
Think I'm finally gonna start DQ3 HD and try and finish it before the end of the month.Any tips or things I should keep in mind?
>>541679156Draconian mode + objective map icons off is the way to play.Nose for Treasure and being necessary to recruit a bunch of arena monsters makes Thief a lot more useful now.
>>541679521I'll keep that in mind, as I'm going in blind. I've been meaning to get more acquainted with this series sicne I'm a really big DQM-fag and figured this is a good launch point. I played DQXI a ton and really liked it as well. Still holding out hope that Squeenix will update DQM3 for Switch 2 but doubt it'll happen
>>541679156Make sure you get a good personality for the hero https://raiderking.com/dragon-quest-3-hd-2d-remake-personality-guide-quiz-answers-best-personality-for-hero/
I'll be honestthe only general I've been in so far that's actually been consistently chill and sane is /dqg/ afaik/smbg/, /sthg/, /tesg/, /kdg/, /khg/, they've all been stupid for different reasonsThis general from my experience is basedPlease don't prove me wrong
>>541683892The more popular a franchise is, the more annoying/insane the general tends to be. It seems like /dqg/ strikes a fine balance between being just active enough without being too populated
>>541684121Yeah. Pretty much what I figured the reason was.Also btw, /agdg/ is also bad but that's not really related to any "game franchise", so I didn't list it
>>541681956A lot of the stronger personalities are easy to fix via books/accessories. What Hero really wants a bunch of a MP for Omniheal/Kazap later on (so Wit, Genius, Vamp).
>>541683892Of all the other ones I've gone/go to, yeah./digi/ just got a new game and of course it goes to shit arguing about if the game is good or not.
>>541681956I'm playing how the developers intended and answering the questions honestly
>>541684614My level 99 Lone Wolf Hero has 913 MP, I don't think it's worth picking a mage personality for a little extra when you can just seed farm if you want 999.
>>541685081You can solve any stat issue with seed farming. From a more practical standpoint, Hero will always be inferior to the others in the long run outside of those two specific things since you dont get the big defining abilities/equipment. Wit/Genius are practical choices for a good chunk of the main game since they ensure that you learn spells at the earliest chance and have the MP needed to use them often. After you learn your last spell or beat Baramos, whichever one happens first, you just take a nice balanced personality and round out your MC then.
>>541624186lmaoevery time I think about how I don't have my shit together (I really don't), things like this remind me that I could be worse.
I think I wiped out 4 times in Manoza Cave. The chests weren't worth it.
horse, cow, hen
>>541683892We are all too old for drama and senseless shitposting
>>541692289>We are all too bald for drama and senseless shitpostingftfy. but we do get it from time to time.
fat slime girl puff-puff
>>541696145I just got puff-puff from a bat in DQ11I didn't know that monsters could do that too
>>541701171Jade has the same combat ability somewhere in her tree
>>541701380Nice, I'm about to get some Italian puff-puff from Gondolia
>Italian puff-puff
>>541703296
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/GaFZIv7Yw80
24 days until I + II remake
Despite how popular DQ3 in Japan and how much fanart it gets every year, the new girl got almost no fanart. Sad!
When Erik finally learns to dual wield knives... So satisfying
I prefer Bianca Gotha, for one.
>>541713202He's more powerful with boomerangs in the long run
Is there any reason to use the somatic staff in DQ3HD?
Beat the boss troll without too much trouble, but another couple of levels wasn't enough. I don't think this would be too bad with a sane party, but with only one character who can heal who's also the only one who can damage all enemies I might actually have to grind for Kazap.
>>541678210Kevin Recon made a patch for DQ9 that made the class/weapon balance less ass. I don't know how well it scales into grottos but it definitely makes for an excellent main game experience on replays. Especially if you use a save editor to brute force past weapon restrictions for experimentation purposes.
Why did Shitbora flop?
>>541715258Do people really worry about playing DQ optimally? It's a pretty easy game so far, maybe if I played on a higher difficulty I'd be singing a different tune
>>541710862To be fair, she's an import from X, so not really all that new.
>>541715453...is it happening?
>>541716305We believe in Nera also known as Flora supremacy here
>>541716305slop and too ugly
>>541715394There's a couple areas where magic doesn't work and your mages are useless without that staff.
>>541717007Man. Even after getting lucky and wiping out all the Dying Fires, the Phantasms still held on forever. They got up to O before I finally broke through. I still wouldn't have made it without getting really lucky with the Staff of Resurrection.
I grinded my ass off for this cat suit. It does not disappint
>>541716305Because Horii outright said you're dumb for picking her.
I never cheated on my wife, Horii-san.
>>541718042>find a sparkly spot flametang boomerang I missed while doing the ghost ship quest earlier 2 seconds after winningAm I retarded or just unlucky?
>>541716712I know the class is, but the design is new, no?
>>541718131>cat loliWho is the intended audience for this?
>>541718131You didn't pay full price did you? The two merchant brothers in Gondolia keep dropping the price to outdo each other if you run back and forth between them.
>>541718939Not really.
>>541719105...............
>>541719292Oh, Anon...
>>541719452I promise I thought I spoke to everyone in the town…
It's funny that almost all the new bosses in 3 HD are DQ1 or 2 enemies, then the gargoyle is from DQ6. I remember the anon who used to post asking what monster the intro guy was supposed to be. Did anyone ever say it was one that wouldn't exist for three more games?
>>541719962At least now you know for the next time they have a ridiculously priced unique outfit to buy.
>>541720132I don't think anyone did. Not here at least.I think everyone was just saying it was a new design. But I could be having memory problems.
>>541720353I definitely don't think it was somehow originally supposed to be or it would've been included in the SFC remake. In hindsight it's a little weird that that remake didn't include more bosses like HD-2D eventually did.Anyway, gargoyle kicked my ass. Didn't even get him down to yellow. What's a good spot to grind?
>>541721936Could just buy some accessories from Persistence that reduce fire damage for each party member and give it another shot with magic barrier + insulatle unless you're hugely underleveled.
>>541721936Originally, it was just a generic-looking dragon (going by the NES release's added intro). Turning it into a Sculptrice feels like a change made for the heck of it.
>>541722576generic dragon in NES, generic demon in SNES
>>541722798Doesn't look that far off from Garboyle in SNES they have the same color.
>>541722798
>>541722548>magic barrier + insulatleI'm doing the muscle girl playthrough so unless there's an item that casts those I'll probably just have to grind. Peeking at the abilities, if I get lucky I could have Sword Dance on everyone in a couple of levels which could be really useful. At the moment they're mostly just sitting on their MP except for the rare Whipping Boy or Forbearance, which is a terrible idea against the Inferno twice a turn guy.
Worth every penny
X
Stella...
>>541735439
Good news: with asbestos earrings and ice shields I was able to wear down GarboyleBad news:
>>541742274I have no idea what fucked that up so badly
>>541722798SOVL
>>541723006SOVL
>unlocked words of wisdomJust need to wait a bit before changing my mage over to sage.
>>541485379That's Empyrea in the logo, so odds are whatever happens in the new DQ2 will explain how Ramia changes form, like >>541486174 suggests.
>>541780638blind retard
anons talked about it here every once in a while so i tried romancing saga 2, it's a fun game if you like numbers going up and basically everything that involves vocations, but i very much dislike the "didn't check a guide like a minmaxer autist? You're locked out of entire questlines, even when you already started them! Better play the whole game again or reload a save lole", and yeah i'm just biased against it but it just sucks. I get timegated quests, and i get the succession thing (it's actually fun) but there should be a safety net where quests still at their first steps carry over instead of just failing or becoming wonky saying this cause of the mermaid quest, i had a hunch something might go wrong so i checked and basically i only barely started that quest, talked to the npc that basically puts the quest in the chronicles and that's it, and i'm already enroute to fail it i simply cause whatever i'll do next will trigger a succession, before i can get to finish it, so i just decided to reload a day old save, which i had simply cause i already had an unwanted triggered succession earlier. I know i'm supposed to just go with it but i'm not gonna do a NG+ playthrough so i want to not miss this kind of shit if i can help itbut again besides that i'm liking it so far, only real issue is that first few hours are kinda "you just use the basic attack" cause you don't have enough "mana" points to actually use abilities/magic outside of bosses, but after that you quickly get to the point you'll never realistically run out of them before you can replenish them. Also, battle UI is kinda retarded, but i guess you get used to it
>>541795559Did you play the original or RoTS?Also, some quests do have alternate routes if you do something weird which is part of the fun. Only Mermaid explicitly has an outright fail state. By the way, as long as you dont visit her in the bar, the game wont hold it against you during a shift.
Did they really keep Metal Slimes vulnerable to Puff fire breath in HD-2D? That's pretty neat
>>541802356Yeah but it's really hard to actually get multiple liquid metal slimes with it because the dragon form tanks their agility and the slimes run before the attack can happen. It's still better to have a metal boomerang and multiple characters with critical claim.
>>541803725Oh yeah, with modern abilities there's no way I'd actually hunt Metal Slimes that way, it's just cute that they kept the trick in. I've done it that way in older versions.
I'm getting filtered so hard by this asshole in the remake.God I wish I wasn't so ass at videogames.
>>541799814it's ROTS, and yeah i get the fun part, it's just bit shocking when it hits you simply cause some events trigger the succession before others, like you feel you missed something you could've done for no reason. Thing is, i don't even know i would change it cause as you said the mechanic is part of the fun. I guess they could've made it so you don't lose on quests/characters because of it for the whole playthrough, like you can get a quest you miss again eventually without having to restart the game. But maybe that makes the point of the mechanic moot? Idk>By the way, as long as you dont visit her in the bar, the game wont hold it against you during a shift.are you sure? To be more specific, i only talked to the two npcs (the old man in front of the tavern and his wife) and now have "Wait for nightfall in Atlanticus's Inn" in the chronicles, and i'd have to shift to even do the quest (i ended up reading a bit of what the quest is about) both cause i'm about to be time skipped anyway and also cause my emperor this generation is female (and apparently i need a male one to do the quest in full?). I also have "a problem of succession" i could be doing instead, which was my original plan (before i decided to explore a bit and happened on the mermaid thing)
>>541808506It gets worse.
>>541810072The fail condition is failing to make the potion in the same generation that you speak to the mermaid in the bar and receive the quest from the witch. Alternatively, you pass like a gorillion generations and start up the Subier plot but that one has to be intentional fucking up on your part and not likely to happen.Just hearing about the pretty girl in the bar is nothing.
>>541816727I would also recommend that you complete the Ant Queen sidequest in the Savannah first before doing the Mermaid stuff just to avoid any jank.
>>541816727>>541817027am just gonna dedicate a whole generation to itanyway thanks anon, i'll say that a DQ spin-off with saga gameplay (mostly from the "*how* the numbers go up" department than everything else) would be cool
How many days till the new game?
>>541839020Too many.
>>54183902023 days until I + II remake.
>I+II remake coming soonHopefully my lazy ass can finish FF7 Remake in time.
>>541843184FF7R isn't worth your time.
After a billion attempts I finally made it through the Maw of the Necrogond. Finally learning Kazap made a big difference. Even for its high MP cost, just nuking an enemy encounter is usually cheaper than having to revive and heal everybody.I've been to Ramia's shrine a bunch of times but I didn't notice the friendly face here until now.
>>541851257Kazap will hard-carry you through the lategame's overworld encounters, it's hilarious. It instagibs things for far longer than it reasonably should.
>>541810072If I recall correctly, the original Super Famicom version is the game that pretty much made nonlinear stories in JRPGs a thing, plus it was made back in the day where devs made games to be replayed over and over because people had less games competing for their time back then.If you're only doing the one run of it and want to experience as much as possible though, yeah, following a guide would be mandatory.I picked up RotS recently and plan on doing some NG+ runs so my first run will be totally blind, but it's gonna be hard for someone like me who falls victim to FOMO so easily.>>541819070Some kind of DQ+SaGa crossover/hybrid would probably be my dream rpg. I doubt it'll happen before Kawazu and Horii die, but a man can dream. I consider FF, DQ and SaGa to be the big three of old jrpg dynasties, it's weird and sad how only FF was able to really break out.I hope DQ gets a big global renaissance like SaGa did over the past few years. I doubt the HD-2D remakes are gonna be enough though. I don't have numbers, but I imagine they're mostly being played by pre-existing DQ fans. A lot of pressure on XII to knock it out of the park.
>Ungrateful immigrants overthrow the hard-working founder and put children on stage at the cabaretWhat did Horii-san mean by this?
What was the thing about Ramia that was changed in a patch? I remember there was something.
>>541855263She's faster.
>Have a pretty easy time with DQ3>Get to the Dying Fire fight as they casually sweep my entire teamWoah
>>541855459S-she used to be even slower?
>>541856083Yeah, baby. HD-2D's Ramia was the slowest out of all versions of the game. (But only just.)I dunno if that's still the case, I haven't tested.
>>541856083Ramia was like a turtle in the unpatched game
>>541854458cool it with the antisemitism
>>541852209they said DQ3 HD-2D sold more than they expected so idkalso as for me i'd just take anything with a DQ coat of paint, i realized years ago that DQ spinoffs work on me as long as they look like DQ (even if gameplay is wildly different, for example builders is one of my favorites). I'd probably play games made in genres i otherwise ignore/don't really like if they were DQ spin-offs, like a soulslike game
Leave Pipsaro to us!
>>541856083you WIRR enjoy heavenly flight
>Get to the boat and orbs>A bunch of zones where enemies can casually stomp my team open upSo what, am I supposed to just try out random zones until I find something that works?
>>541880472The overworld is like level 30 at best it's not hard for the most part aside from a couple dungeons at the end of it.
>>541881980It might just be shit luck on my part because I went exploring and every encounter has my team just barely surviving the onslaught because multiple monsters rolled double turn party wide aoes.
>>541891304
>>541852209>A lot of pressure on XII to knock it out of the park.Do you think they're going to try something ballsy to appeal to an international audience? The FF16 of DQ?
>>541898471Since FF16 doesn't seem to have appealed to anybody, that would be a pretty stupid plan
>>541898614>that would be a pretty stupid planThis IS Square we're talking about.
>>541899841I'm not on team 'Horii has absolute control and can't make mistakes' but I do think he's got enough power to veto completely retarded ideas from the suits when it comes to the fundamental design of the numbered DQ entries.The real fear is that it'll be open world slop, not a DMC clone.
OK, I give. How do I get Ortega's helm?
>>541900490>open world slopthat's what DQ has been from the start, i really don't get why not having (or having) ubisoft towers really changes anything. Like at absolute worst they're padding but it's fun padding (and, most importantly, overall optional), every other check in the list is there in both "kind" of games
>>541904151If you can't tell the difference between a 2D JRPG with an overworld map and BotW or Far Cry I don't know what to tell you. You might genuinely be retarded.
>>541903692Enter the back door.
>>541905309yeah cause there's nothing to tell, they're the same thing if you have a modicum of brain and are able to look past the obvious graphical differences. Unless of course your argument only boils down to "2D GOOD, 3D BAD"
First try. Way easier than Garboyle or the Theddon fight. Omniheal makes a huge difference.>>541905445I've done that, I've talked to Petya during the day and at night, I've gotten the flashback, I've examined the helm from both sides of the counter. Did I have to beat Baramos first?
I wonder if I should turn my Mage into a Sage. I'd have to leave eventually for Channel Anger and Wild Side but the immediate early utility with everything at once seems better
>>541906850I just talked to everyone in the town, went to the back, examined everything, spoke to Petya and looked at the helmet again.Had Ortega's Helm before I even got the boat.
Genius Hero is kind of funny since he's up there with my mage for the mp pool. I still think Wit is better for men while you're waiting for the Vamp event tho.
>>541390012Well, leveling is probably faster on 3DS but I could've sworn I was also 17 in my first playthrough on PS1.Also I barely cleared that last boss fight, Maribel and I were both dead and Gabo was hanging on by a thread. That attack that deals 70-80 damage to two party members is nasty, especially since that dude usually acts first.
Playing the DQ3 Remake. Wondering if I should turn my thief into a warrior or a martial artist. Just got to the guy who can do that.Also wondering in regards to the difficulty, if it will ramp up. I'm playing on the regular difficulty. My party is in the lower 20s.
>>541918358Imo the only change that's worth it right away is Mage/Priest into Sage and even then I'd hold on for Kacrack/Zing.
>>541919392Aight, so there will come a better time?
>>541919684Yeah basically. Change over when you learn Persecutter or Backdraft.
>>541907167As far as I know, the things you're supposed to do are:-Get mistaken for Ortega by an old man upon entering town-Talk to the old man at his place-Inspect the helmet-Talk to PetyaAnd you should be given the helmet when returning down the stairs
>>541921416Thanks, that helped. For some reason I thought Petya was the item shop clerk since that guy has a bunch of lines about Ortega and is in the same building, and I somehow missed the stairs next to the helmet.
>It's pronounced "Tanta jel"
>>541924695Oh. Oh no.
>>541919684iirc all vocations learn all their abilities by level 45ish (some before, some after, and ultimately also depends on the characters' stats), but idk i wouldn't cling so much on that. Just do what you think it'll be fun, especially if you have headcanon reasons
I think it's better to tough it out with a gadabout early to get your sage in DQ3 it's useful having whistle to grind with in metal slime areas.
How much of a difference does it make if I switch the difficulty to draconian in DQ3 remake? Just got the ship. Most of the time I just have my party tactics at "fight wisely."
>>541927585Hmmm.... I'll think about it, thanks.
>>541927782Draconian is pretty challenging for the latter half of the main game, and is insane for the postgame.
>>541918358Thief (Backdraft) > Wrangler (Wild Side) > Warrior/Martial Artist.Done
In DQ3 hd 2d remake, is turning my warrior into a thief a good idea? I'm reading here that it is needed for certain monsters, I'm not sure how because I haven't found any that I couldn't get. I have a monster wrangler in my party, do I still need a thief? I just got the boat and turned my priest into sage.
>>541932326if you have a monster wrangler then you don't need anything else, every monster will just let you talk to them right away
>>541932326Are you following a guide of some sort? As long as you have a Wrangler of some sort, you'll ignore all of the recruitment checks.
>>541932532Nice, thanks. Good to know.>>541932598No I'm not. I tried looking once I reached Alltrades Abbey because I'm unsure about class changes but the info I find online isn't very helpful to be honest because all of them just say do whatever you want to do, and now I have choice paralysis. I turned my priest to sage right away because as I understand sage learns all priest and mage spells, so no real point in waiting, already learned zing. But I don't know what to do with my warrior and monster wrangler, I'm thinking of keeping them like this until they learn all skills for now. Any suggestions what should I turn them into? I don't think I'll do more than 1 class change.
>>541932941Its difficult to get accurate advice because HD is different from the older versions and even then modern day HD has different balance to on release due to a balance pass that they made.So a lot of it ultimately depends on your tolerance for grinding/team comp. The only consistent advice is that everyone should at least dabble in Wrangler once you've saved 50 monsters for the duplication skill. Also, if your team is functional, there's no need to force a reclass.
>>541932326You should get a martial artist it's the only class with critical claim that's guaranteed to kill metal slimes and takes until the high 40s to learn it.
>>541933712I heard it's good to do at least one reclass becuase even though it resets to level 1, the character will end up having much better stats once re-leveled, and it gives a massive power boost. Is that not right?
>>541933928Allright, I think I'll turn one of them into a martial artist and the other into a thief when the time comes.
>>541934028You inherit 50% of your old stats, so yes you'll be stronger in the long run but doing it for the sake of it isnt wise.Decide on your team's roles first.
>>541934028Its very worth it to do it with similar classes, like if you plan on keeping a warrior, I'd say they need to be leveled sufficiently in martial artist before going back to warrior so that they have a big boost to their main stats, cause both classes have the same main stats that benefit them.Like even just leveling until they're at 100 strength in martial artist means as a warrior they will have a whopping 50 extra strength, if you're playing on draconian I'd say its a must.
>>541816727okay i got to the succession and first thing that popped up was to keep going with the mermaid quest, girl just waited 158 more years for me to show upthanks anon
Dying Fire is fucking stupid.
On one hand I'm glad that so far 3 HD-2D hasn't gotten into the weeds with Zelda timeline bullshit trying to tie it into 11, but on the other hand I really wouldn't mind a hint or two about how the hell we got here.
>>541942045Also, I wish Alefgard just used the regular overworld theme even when you're in the ship. It spoils the moment a bit when you arrive and the first thing you hear is the same old boat theme.
>>541942045That forest area in the overworld under the shrine of the dwarf is where yggdrasil used to be. The dragon queen is a descendant of yggdragon.
>>541942045Still calling it: there will be more story in DQ2 after Malroth where the Scions go back to the world of DQ3 and everything between the trilogy and 11 is tied together.
>>54193678422 days until I +II remake.
>>541284324I wish I had a pumpkin custard and a hammerhood. All I have is canned soup and a drohl.
>>541942045There's a map of Erdrea in Aliahan Castle.
A need a 2D DQ platform à la DKC
A DQ side scrolling beat 'em up with the cast of IV
I think Octagonia might be my favorite arc so far in DQ11
Now that purple hair Moonbrooke is confirmed canon how will blondefags recover?
>>541969771You know there will be NPCs who will reference her blonde hair from before.
Moonbrooke hair color change accessory like the Serena hairstyle ring from XIOr the gyaruslime will be able to change it
sexo con mujeres morenas
अरे, मेरी बहन एक ऐसी मूर्ख कुतिया है जो हमारा सारा पैसा जुए में बर्बाद कर देती है और उसे सोलो पर हाथ मारना बंद कर देना चाहिए इससे पहले कि मैं उसे श्राप दे दूं।
hmmmm
any updates on the dqg game?
puff-puff
>>542010357Don't mind if I do
Pafu-Pafu
>>541970923I hope this is true because it'd be so funny to finally have both Moonbrookes in one game 40 years later.
DQ7R collector's edition contentshttps://x.com/SQEX_eSTORE/status/1975486260190880204
>>542019772The color seems off
When do you usually try the harder difficulties on DQ games? Playing the DQ3 Remake currently.
>>542021470Only XI and III HD-2D have had hard modes so far and they work differently between the two. I've only ever played both on hard ("stronger monsters" in XI, not the whole set of gimmicks) since the releases before XI were starting to get way too easy.
>>542021470I tried Stronger Monsters on DQ11 right out the gate on my first run and had no regrets. Given how much easier they made the game under the hood, it was kind of mandatory to balance it out.I hope DQ1&2 has the option to disable free healing on level-ups. I felt that was a major challenge-killer even with Stronger Monsters on.
>>542021949Oh yeah, completely forgot that there were a plethora of options in regards to difficulty in XI.
>>542022503You also couldn't turn them on after starting either, you could only give up on ones you picked at the start. With the default setting showing a huge banner that listed the challenges you had on, it all felt more like streamerbait than anything.
>>542022503>>542022872I saw them as challenge modes, and I believe that was what they were calledIt's to add replayability
>>542022995I get the idea, but I've seen plenty of people realize the game is too easy by default a few hours in and have no choice but to carry on or restart. Even though the options are more limited I prefer how it works in III.
>>542021470First try everytime
I'm starting to think Videl might rank higher than Maribel on the stinkometer
>have an easier time with Orochi than Dying Fire and Chiromancer
I like rab.Hes cool and an insta stay to my party with stronger monstersI don't like slyvando Who are the other two party membersIm thinking jade and veronica
>>542028078Sylvando is cool and a great character with a personality that you don't see very often in videogames without feeling in your face (can't speak about the English dub, but he's fine in Japanese)
>>542028525In English he's like the 90s version of a gay character. Flamboyant but not terribly in your face about it.But that's just like, my opinion, man.
My opinion on Sylvando is that Hustle Dance is really useful
>>542032120Mine is that he had some great scenes with Hendrik.
>>542039019I want to pinch Jade's belly
>>542032120Sylvando is like a gadabout except with a knight's discipline that cancels out the retarded antics that you normally get from gadabouts like in DQ3.
>>542019923MITTENS NOOOO
I just think slyvando is ugly so i don’t like him. Everyone else looks fine but hes a cartoon character with an obnoxious voice
11 - HeroErik - ThiefSerena - PriestVeronica - MageSylvando - GadaboutJade - Martial ArtistRab - SageHendrik - WarriorIIRC Sylvando had some merchant esque moves.
I'm genuinely gonna miss Sylvando come DQXII in 2032
>>542046202Rab is a martial artist/sage multiclass he was the one who trained Jade how to fight.
>>542048339Serena is a pure magic Sage during the second act, while Hendrik ran Priest long enough to get some healing spells.
>>542048876If only there was a warrior-priest hybrid class with some of the exact skills Hendrik has...
>>542049114Yeah, but Paladin isn't a thing in Erdrea's vocation system.
>>542049308DQ3 doesn't have a back row or skill points or pep either.
>>542048339If you want to be technical Sylvando has Gadabout/Merchant/Warrior.Hendrik is Warrior/PriestJade is Martial Artist/GadaboutRab is Martial Artist/SageSerena becomes a Sage in the last part of Act 2 (man she was so fucking good then).
>>542027113I had to retry dying fire like 3 times because the stupid ass reinforcements, if you get unlucky you are FUCKED no matter what unless you are overleveled. I was lvl 25-26 and it was a slog.
>>542063485I had a lot of failed attempts because they kept stunlocking me. It was ridiculous because i had none for the entire first half.
How significant will be the cut content in DQ7 remake? I'm worried because while yes the pacing of that game is abysmal, I don't think cutting content is going to make it feel any less so. So in the end, I think we will get a game that is just as slow and a chore, but with less content. I don't think they can pull it off and we will end up in a lose lose situation. Am I overthinking it?
>>542063802You are overthinking it. Wait until when the game actually comes out.
>>5420638027's real problem is its structure, not that there's too much of it. I don't mind the idea of making some islands optional like they're doing with a couple of them, but it just seems like laziness not to do that with the ones they're cutting too.If there's anything that makes the remake less tedious to play I expect it to be the changes to the vocation and battle systems, not the number of islands.
>>542027113That's because Orochi is easier than dying fire. The game trolls you by sending you to Theddon first when Jipang is easier.
>>542070547I think they bait you into getting the ultimate key first when Theddon and Lawson are harder than Persistence, Grimland and Jipang.
>>542020717there is no official color for the slimes. sometimes they are matte light blue, sometimes reflective dark blue, and in rare cases you can even see thru their bodies.
>>542075169Is that fella laying next to Alef gonna be alright?
Rubiss and the Dream-Whisperer are the new additions to the cast of DQ1.
21 days until I +II remake.
>>542075169Getting Crispin vibes from this bloke
Does 3 HD-2D have missables? Like a chest you can't return to later, or a boss that drops something rare or even unique?
>>542075169I hope they don't go too overboard with this stuff. I don't want my solo adventure to be interrupted by the dipshit squad in every town like they're Pokemon rivals
>>542076251No
>>542075668Rubiss has some pretty nice boobs.
>>542075668The creator's puff-puff, please!
>>542076470That's awesome, thank you! Every game should do this, I'm getting too old for missables.
>>542075668>>542075857They haven't aged a day since DQ3
>>542076850Dragon Quest generally doesn't have missables that's a Final Fantasy problem.
Seirei Boobtits
>>542084561Sage my beloved...
>>542077115good
I hate Tentaculars
What catchphrases would a Serena barbie say when squeezed?
>>542104908"Why do people shun those who look or think differently to themselves? It’s so sad…"
I wonder what kind of post-game they're adding to DQ1 it must have something. Would be cool if you were able to personally found Midenhall with the princess instead of just hearing about it in 2.
>>542104908Almighty Yggdrasil, hear my prayer!
>>542077096VIII (PS2, idk about 3DS) had missables
>>542116842He did say generally.Though if we are just listing all examples, 6 had a missable party member and 7 had a missable town.
>>542121993Isnt a massive chunk of DQ11 missable due to the unique nature of its 3 act system?
>>542126089No, because you can do everything you've missed in Act 1 in Act 3.I guess the only really missable thing in XI is the info about Veronica and Serena's past. If you don't talk to the NPCs during that moment, no one ever mentions it ever again, AFAIK.
>>542096468me on the left
>>542104908>"You smell nice."
>>542077096Most DQ games do have missable items, though usually only consumables and Mini Medals (the latter usually having enough in-game to get all the rewards even if you forget them). Probably the biggest missable in any DQ game is recruiting Amos in 6.
>>542126664If you want to get into the weeds, you can miss an opportunity to duplicate certain pieces of equipment if they arent worn before a specific event in Act 1.
>>542135362Since we're going deeper into technicalities now, DQ11S has three achievements (all for breaking lots of pots) and a single magic spell (Weather Forecast) that can only be obtained in the 2D Mode. Not entirely missable, but the way the game sends you backwards in the plot when you change modes, I find the last best time to get them is at the start of Act 3 before the time-travel.
I've been accepted into the Smash/Grow CBT.
I got protag dies game over and stronger monsters dq11 and being hard stucm by glydgga at 41. Do i just gotta suck it up and grind? Even with 2 def buffs on he gets 1 shotted by rake and bake, and a single bad gold transformstion attack fucks me too hard
>>542146676Have you tried using better gear? IIRC you can also just swap the mc out.
>>542146676It was a long time ago, but I think I was around level 50-55 at that point.
The casino is so good in DQ11. Went from 100 tokens to over 2,000 in less than an hour... I think I will farm this place for all the items lolAlso got the bunny suit
>>542147818>50/55I finished act 4 on stronger monsters around that level.
The secret 4th act.
>>542150764Delete this
>>542149342You can't hit the jackpot in the act 1 casino it only works when the 100 token slot machine unlocks later. Better to save up thousands of tokens for act 2.
>>542150985Can I at least buy all the items in Act 1? or is that not a good use of my time
>>542149706I finished act 2 at like 68 I think, and then 99 for 3.Also on stronger monsters.
>>542151101You can but it's gonna take hours of playing slots and it's not really worth it except the recipe book. You'll get platinum weapons at the end of act 1.
>>542147629I didn’t know you can swap the mc outThat feels strange My gear probably isn’t the best, im actually coming back after taking months long break so forgot the last up to date shop
>>542146676https://youtube.com/watch?v=bigmUrTEJ6Y
Me in the middle.
>>542152002>low level>only 2 levels below me without having random mc one shots and way better gearThanks for the confidence boost anon you’re the best
>>542152542Actually while i got you guys what percentage is the game done? Im having a comfy time but it definitely feels like things are more wrapping up than starting
>>542152968You're a good part of the way through Act 2. Act 3 is more like the endgame of a game like Chrono Trigger if you're familiar with that, where you can do a bunch of sidequests to power up but the final boss is available to fight whenever you want, so the length can vary a lot.
>>542105358>>542116737>>542132859And how would you activate her voicelines?
>>542155994Squeeze her empty head
One thing that doesn't sit right with me regarding these HD2D remakes is how they go back to these simple 40 year old games, add new scenes, flashbacks, other story content as if to say "this is how it was all along!" It all feels so very lame. It would've been better to continue making new games or material set in the same world as opposed to this attempt at making these archaic titles "deeper."
>>542151475The order of characters also affects enemy targeting btw. So if the protag is in the top slot of the combat menu/far left of the line up, he will be targeted more than if he were in the bottom slot.
>>542157017Just play the original game if you want the authentic experience of those games
>Games have a host of things that they were unable to include back in the day due to budget/time/space constraints>Original creator (Horii) uses this remake to add shit he didnt include/expand the lore to account for other games in the same setting that he added later down the lineHargon is definitely going to be up to something at the end of DQ2. They also made Cannock's sister more relevant probably to lead into the unused ending as a sort of fake out.
>>542157017I was surprised how little of that III actually did, but I agree that the flashbacks with Ortega feel really weird and out of place. The actual content isn't really bad, but they don't fit into the style of the original game very well.
>>5421588053 was already a solid narrative on its own. It's really 1 and 2 that needs the overhaul badly. I think the only thing the past remakes added plotwise was having to de-curse Pr. Cannock in 2.
>>542157017DQ1 OG is the most barebones JRPG story ever made it's just "go rescue the princess" with nothing else like a Mario from back then. More story can't hurt.
>>542159568>More story can't hurt.I'm sure FF7 fans used to say that.
>>542160484FF7 has much more story than DQ1 there's no comparison
>>542160784Final Fantasy ONE had more story than DQ1.
>>542160484>whataboutisms FF7 already has issues with people getting core plot details wrong before SE decided to let its original staff (Nomura, Nojima and Kitase) decide to have a giggle and write a sequel disguised as a remake.DQ3 HD just added some extra scenes with Ortega and set up DQ1/2 with Hargon/Dragonlord's egg.
>>542160784>>542161628Try DQ11S, then. The midpoint character chapters add almost nothing (at least Rab's is pretty good) and make the opening of act 2 worse.I'm not actually that worried about 1+2 but more story can absolutely hurt if it's not done carefully. A big part of what makes DQ1 still fun to play is that it's so short and simple.
>>542162923>made it worseNot really?
>>542162923People aren't paying $70 to get a 1:1 short remake of DQ1 the original is still there.
>>542163213It's the game ruining all the mystery of act 2 by telling you a bunch of shit you'll learn later anyway with zero gameplay value, it sucks. The vanilla version throwing you into the ruined world as the hero alone and letting you gradually uncover what happened to everyone and the state of the world was much more effective. The only good stuff from the intermission could've just been shown to you later like with the Hendrik and Jasper sequence.
>>542164264If only it was possible to charge less than $70 for a video game
>>542162923>>542164306Finally, someone else who thinks act 2 was ruined in 11S! I thought I was the only one.
>>542164306>>542165267The intermissions dont show what happened to Serena/Veronica tho
>>542164306You don't learn shit about Erik's situation when you find him after
>>542164306Plus they had to retcon those very unsavory implications regarding Jade and Booga.>>542165589But it gives away the existence of the Sage who helps out during the Luminary's powerless period.
>>542164306>>542165267The point of the intermissions was mostly to hype up Mordegon's generals instead of them being monsters of the week that happened to have the orbs. The absence of Serena/Veronica in the what was everyone doing arc actually makes new players curious about their fates as well.
>>542165498Makes it more suspicious that you don't see them, you end up expecting what happens rather than it being a sudden gut punch when you thought the whole crew was about to be back together.
>>542166129I disagree.
>>542165267"Ruined" is a little strong, I don't think it's *that* bad, but I do think it's worse. I wish that time and effort had gone into shoring up the issues with act 3 instead.>>542165498Their absence could be conspicuous and might give away the twist, but since I played vanilla first I can't really say. It's kind of a shame, of all the characters I'm most interested in what Serena was doing solo.>>542165589Learning what happened to him was a worthwhile addition, but it would've worked better to see that in a flashback afterwards.
>>542166376Relegating everything to flashbacks would break flow.
>>542166590Having a 4 hour long filler intermission after act 1 already breaks the flow.
>>542166590>>542166891In both cases, they shouldn't have bothered, period. Just a few NPCs or notebooks detailing the party's antics between acts would have been enough.
When should I think about switching vocations in DQ3? Got the hero, priest, thief and a mage. All at lvl 26. Haven't got a single orb yet if that matters.
>>542166891>>542167521It would be even worse desu.Consider this;You get Jade back and then have to sit through her entire flashback arc with Booga and everything before being allowed to move on. Then we repeat this for each party member.Compare to them doing it all at once and then everything goes from there.
>>542168984I'm saying to have no flashbacks at all, like in vanilla DQ11.
>>542166891>4 hoursHow fucking slow are you?
>>542169748Nah, they could just make it optional for people that dont want to see it/replays.
>>542168668You should turn one of your mages into a sage and the other into something else
>>542170549There's no need for him to change his team at the moment. He'd be better off waiting for Priest/Mage to learn their last relevant spell and then changing to something else.If you MUST force a Sage, then Priest is the choice since Mage can still contribute via Duplic Hat/poison needle slimes while Sage doubles down on the healing.
>>542169825Is it not an hour per flashback? I don't remember exactly how long they were, I think I actually dropped 11S during Erik's or Rab's flashback.
>>542171995How are you spending an hour with Jade's when its just like a few battles that you cant use when she's wearing the slut suit? Only Erik and Rab have any real length. Its 2 hours tops for all 4.
>>542171995It depends how much you run around talking to people. Erik and Jade's are more combat focused and faster while Sylvando and Rab's are slower with more dialogue.
>>542172221>>542172380Idk it was stronger monsters. Mainly I just remember being bored out of my mind as the added content was worse than I could have imagined.
>>542172839>stronger monstersIrrelevant. The one person who has a real boss fight is super buffed.
>>542150764Serena… lay off the paperbacks!
>>542170751post more
>>542157926At the very least, it can explain why Malroth goes from green to blue when he appears in later games as a superboss.
>>542170842Is the last relevant spell on a specific level for most of the classes?
>>542180982Sometimes your last ability is fixed like ~45 for Hero's Gigaslash. For others its a range, with you getting it earlier if your Wisdom stat is higher. I believe its ~37/38ish for the Priest/Mage if you want all spells before leaving.
>>542181290Oh :o, is it the same for all the other games in the series aswell? So that some have a range? Makes it pretty interesting.
>>542181691I'm pretty sure DQIII is the only game that works that way. In DQV the wisdom stat of monsters determines whether they'll take orders or act on their own, but that's the only similar thing I can think of.
>>542182409I see.
Ortega -> Prince of Midenhall (Brute gene with no magic)Erdrick's mom -> Princess of Moonbrooke (Purple hair gene)Princess Gwaelin -> Princess of Cannock (They look almost the same)Prince of Cannock (Classic jack of all trades hero powers but weaker than Erdrick and his DQ1 descendant)
20 days until I + II remake
>>542190159>(They look almost the same)They share sprites in SNES and GBC versions of 1+2, even.
>>542190159Localization or not, I'm glad these kids have canon names now (Gawain, Rickerd, Peronel, Matilda). It gets hard having to write out their full titles all the time.
Fuck
>>542195909>RickerdPrince of Cannock is Caradoc
>>542196169god, please
Post it. You know what.
>>542197962
>>542195909Allen, Cookie, Pudding, Macaron
I wonder why they decided not to add Zam to III HD-2D. I don't desperately miss it on the playable classes but it's a little weird for Zoma not to have it, even if his thing is ice.
im in
>>542210806Good job!
>>542196169How do you suppose Broccoli would react if you were to give her armpit a quick lick while she was doing one of those dramatic poses?
>>542211826She'd lose her next turn
>>542209034I guess because it wasn't introduced until DQ9 and they would also have to add equipment that resisted it and enemies that are weak to the dark element if they added it as sage spells .
>The story behind DQ9's boatMessed up
>But you're a flapping lizard
>>542247041she knows what she's talking about
>>542258571>DAAH-NAAH!
>Boss Troll landed a desperate attack!>Boss Troll hit through blind!
>>542268869Skill issue.
>>542272861>rng is skilli beat him but you can't do anything if your blind/sleep don't stick or the game just decides to give him a bunch of good rolls.
>>542272861>wrangler and two sagesyou didn't beat the game.
>>542275274>>rng is skillYes? Luck is a stat after all.
>>542275274yeah i very much don't like how they made status ailment simply not matter to most enemies and especially bosses. It's hard as ball to inflict them and when it finally happens they expire right away. I really don't see the point of making the system like this
>>542275445Then how did i even have the sex?
>>542275274>blind/sleepIsn't he hella weak to blunt? Also kabuff exists. Are you perhaps the anon with 03 warriors?
Can I change classes in DQ3 Remake an infinite number of times and acquire all the spells and skills of all the characters in a single character?If it is possible to do something like this, what would be the advantage of not doing it?
>>542276481Diminishing returns stats-wise, also it's just boring
>>542276481>Can I change classes in DQ3 Remake an infinite number of times and acquire all the spells and skills of all the characters in a single character?Yes>If it is possible to do something like this, what would be the advantage of not doing it?Overlevel and and tremendous waste of time and energy considering how the last skills for each class are learned at lvl 50.
>>542276481Yeah you can make all 3 party members learn everything if you want and the post-game requires them to know a lot of abilities to get through it anyway.
>>542276406>Are you perhaps the anon with 03 warriors?No, that's me. I'm at Zoma's Citadel now. It's been pretty smooth sailing since picking up Omniheal and Kazap (and Sword Dance on the big ladies).
>>542271574Big deal. Moonbrooke was outright naked in her game. Arf!
>>542277086Very nice
Anyone tried to solo DQ3 HD-2D? I'm thinking it might actually be easy with all the exp going to one character and meditation restoring 500 HP while only costing 5 MP late in the game.
>>542277585The huge quantity of enemies with Whack/Thwack would make that infuriating, but I'm sure it's doable.
19 days until I + II remake. Are you starting to feel it?
>>542277086Nice. It's a shame you won't be able to fully complete the postgame with that party, however.
>>542277718I was gonna say the game throws dieamends at you, but even that may not be enough for the sheer amount of *acks that will be thrown around. Instant death resist gear might be a must.
>>542280982>the sheer amount of *acks that will be thrown aroundJust like Cathy.
>The super sword of light from XI is the sword of kings in III but the sword of kings in XI is just a generic sword you can buy unlimited copies of.
>>542282350To be fair, Zoma destroyed the original Sword of Light.
