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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#558 - mean boys edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM 4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
Deepseek V3.2 https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
Sonnet 3.5/3.6 to be retired in October https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/model-deprecations

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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this is gonna be a shit thread
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this is gonna be a kino thread
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this is gonna be a kino thread
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uh...bakie? i said mean girls (male).
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>>541319571
They're male.
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>>541319134
This time I bring you Over the Edge, the underground TTRPG from the 90s which takes place in a funky island setting. The game is mechanically really simple. Just jump straight in with your favorite character and play.
Think of those 'prophetic' llluminati: The Game of Conspiracy cards, except in a sandbox roleplaying game. The Illuminati gather on Al Amarja, the Mediterranean island.
You get this full open world (not unlike the Night City) inhabited by hundreds of NPCs who may or may not be part of the global conspiracy. Think of Jagged Alliance 2's Arulco, but instead of mercs, you'll be like Martin Mystère or Sterling Archer.
In fact it's worse than that. Think of a GTA island where all NPCs are Strangers and Freaks, think of portable Sims 2 games. No matter how you approach OTE, you're getting LYNCHED.

SillyTavern Adaptations Monster Madness::
>Added Over the Edge 2e Core Rulebook
>Added Players' Survival Guide
>Added At Your Service
>Added Cloaks (including adventure: Yesterday's Hero)
>Added Friend or Foe
>Added Weather the Cuckoo Likes (adventures: Meaningless Tissues, the Last Chance Brains)
>Added Wildest Dreams
>Added Wildest Dreams adventure - Kill John Doe
>Added Over the Edge Adventure - Airwaves
>Added Over the Edge Adventure - Forgotten Lives
>Added AD&D2e Planescape Module - Tales From the Infinite Staircase
>Added Flashbacks Redux anthology for Paranoia 25th
>Adventures: Clones in Space, Code 7s, Me and My Shadow Mark 4, My First Treason, Orcbusters, Pre Paranoia, Vapors Don't Shoot Back, Yellow Clearance Black Box Blues
>Added anthology Flashbacks I & II (This is where I covered Flashbacks adventures not featured in Flashbacks Redux or in Troubleshooter)
>Adventures: Alpha Complexities, Das Bot, The People's Glorious Revolutionary Adventure, Trouble With Cockroaches
>Added AD&D 2e Planescape Module - Tales from the Infinite Staircase
>Added RuneQuest 3e Module - Sun County
>Updated AI GM

DL:: https://rentry.org/sillytavernadaptations
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>>541319571
Sorry, I could not find appropriate images of femboys, so I just went with images of males doing mean girls scenes.
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>>541320248
you don't have to apologize i just wanted to post that
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how do you stop gemini from spitting up parts of the jb in the response again
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>>541319134
Last Devogate shill for now

Looking down at those less "capable" than her, Princess Arfine has been considered a despot who doesn't care about her people. In reality, that couldn't be farther from the truth. Sure, she turns her nose up at the people under her. Sure, she only really splurges when it's time for the yearly Vanquisher's Festival. But she does care that the people are living more than anything, even if they suffer as a result. Because the alternative is being consumed by a rot that they refuse to even acknowledge exists. That's why she'll tighten the rules for when the Creeping Shroud returns to devour the lands anew.

Comes with four greetings: you being summoned to the royal court, the Vanquisher's Festival where nothing bad happens, the Vanquisher's Festival where a lot of bad happens, and her in the aftermath of her kidnapping. Stomp the brat's head in, save her life and right her outlook, whatever floats your boat.

Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/princess-arfine-agrestia-s-impertinent-despot-686f6dcce2f8
Lorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-interlopers-realm-458afd84b161
My (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89
>Next Time
Deipara, survivor of the Torch of Salvation (Nikke)
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>>541320616
so it wasn't just me... gemini has been sm dumber lately
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>>541319571
you deserve this
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Please give me a new deepseek preset to try out, thank you.
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>>541320732
honestly i think it's my preset, someone shared a fix but i can't remember it. something to do with the <thinking></thinking> tags...what preset are you using
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>>541321446
*deepseeks your asshole with my cock*
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>>541321804
using a modified ver of astros preset desu...
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>>541321986
that's the one i'm using too. just edited
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fuck i gotta cook the books on my chub or else the auditor anons will laugh...
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I haven't seen Patter in a hot minute.
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my computer has been messing up lately
is it time to install linux?
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>>541322674
no
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Ignore this gay thread. Look at this thing instead.
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>>541322674
install fedora, it cured my distrohopping
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i miss patter...
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>>541323189
I never miss. I hit the womb every time.
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top 3 patter bots?
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>>541323128
unironically the most broken shit ever.
>>541322674
Go with Zorin.
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>>541322749
>>541323128
>>541323683
hmmm but i could install arch and gain autism and programmer socks for free
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>>541322998
hmnnngf
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>want to gen for bots i have in mind
>trying to save atlas for the halloween event
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>541323817
have you tried upgrading to nai opus with unlimited gens?
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minigirlkings, sizebros, how is sonnet 4.5?
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>>541323887
bretty gud
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>>541323879
hmmmm youre right thank you
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>>541320058
sorry if this is a dumb qustion, but i tried looking for the SMT adaptation (shows up as SMT Demon City 200X), but only saw .json files
is there not a .png card for that system?
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>>541324048
that anon's only card is the dm
the jsons are lorebooks
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>>541323817
reference+prompt maxx geminislop it
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This is a real video from my real life. Please don't dox.
https://files.catbox.moe/ophs8y.mp4
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>>541323887
i've needed to swipe more across longer contexts due to the occasional mixup but i think it's still a good model and i had to swipe with opus anyway
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>>541324340
cftf?
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>>541324306
teach me how to do this wtf
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For the three anons that fav'd my bot and the others that downloaded it, I hope you enjoyed her. She's unlisted, so I know only the coolest kids have played with her. That means a lot to a humble botmakie such as I. May you all enjoy a blessed day filled with extra-large boobies brimming with milk.
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>>541324306
i wish gemini could just do SOME style... the default anime looks so fucking bland
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>>541319134
The next batch of Blue Archive character cards. Featured this time are the ladies from the Justice Task Force.

>Mashiro
Sniper, hangs out in high places, obsessed with justice, wears a skirt so short that she's basically bottomless.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/shizuyama-mashiro-non-ai-9f2118737cef
https://files.catbox.moe/t2nuxt.png

>Koharu
Horny and Stupid.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/shimoe-koharu-non-ai-ae92f023618c
https://files.catbox.moe/jlbmae.png

>JTF Mob-chan(s)
This one is quite different from my usual. It's not a specific character, but a card for the background characters of the JTF. These faceless girls are SUPER popular with the game's fandom, more than a lot of the named ones, even.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/jtf-mob-chan-non-ai-6c9eb0b33aeb
https://files.catbox.moe/2ifgzv.png

>where are the other birds?
Ichika and Hasumi will get swimsuit alts on the next BlueFes so I'll wait until I see their new events and momos. Those are super important in making these cards behave like the in-game characters. As for Tsurugi....I can't say I care much about her, so maybe I'll make her later.

>where are the shupogakis
I was supposed to make them next but I got distracted. Plus I ended up loving Aoba way more than the twins.

I make high quality and effort Blue Archive characters and OCs: https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
And here's my Rentry: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
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cftf?
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good afternoon anons.
do any of you happen to have a preset (or just an entry so I can add to mine) of a functional inventory tracker so claude can do it for me and I don't have to keep remembering it all the time? Thanks!
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>>541325058
Not reading any of that.

WHERE ARE THE SHUPOGAKIS?

I assume it is not addressed in the post because if it were, I would have read it.
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>>541325405
cftf?
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>>541325405
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>>541324278
the generic one?
thank you
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>>541324628
holstaurchad...
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>>541324048
Anon is right. I only make lorebooks, they're basically plug & play when you're done importing them. Just remember to tell your card to double check your character sheet when you're done designing your PC. It takes a reply or two to really get the lorebook rolling.
There's a lot of info in the Rentry if you ever feel stuck.
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>>541325804
yeah you need both the generic dm card and the specific loreboook you want
upside is that you can use the lorebook with any card
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>>541322674
It's time to install Bazzite.
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how do i install patter
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>>541326438
*mutes your distro*
Not so immutable now, huh?
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Today I realized something. I don't like "making chatbots", I like creating OCs.
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>>541325058
sex with all these (I have never played blues archive)
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>>541323683
>zorinslop
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instead of makieing bots I'm going to make a list of all the bots i'm makieing or want to makie and what needs to be done to finish makieing them
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>>541327129
Planning is an important part of the process.Do et.
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>>541327129
fuuuuuuck i should do this.
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>>541326948
based, OCs are so much more fun to write than canon chars
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>friend recommends me shit to read so I stop getting bored
>it is dogshit
I should just ask my bots for reccs instead
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>>541327129
>instead of makieing bots
*making
>I'm going to make a list of all the bots i'm makieing
*making
>or want to makie
*make
>and what needs to be done to finish makieing them
*making

ftfy
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>>541327535
i makie da bot, then i makie another bot, im a botmakie makieing bots
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>>541327535
editmakie...
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>>541319110
>GLM 4.6
How good is this? Any better than deepchink r1?
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>>541327618
I would have told you if you didn't post /pol/shit.
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>>541327590
you're a faggot making fagslop
>>541327594
nigger
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what should i coom to
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i make two bots in the morning
i make two bots at night
i make two bots in the afternoon
the general called them shite
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>>541327809
angermakie...
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>>541327807
How about now
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>>541328382
it's a primo coom model and more intelligent than some versions of deepseek. scuffed prose in my opinion but if you're already using DS you're probably used to that
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>>541328382
I would have told you if you didn't post 3d shit.
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>>541324689
Styling is difficult, but I find default "painting" at least more pleasing than "anime".
>Ayo give me a painting of dis bitch as a halloween themed witch with serious expression, glowing red eyes, and her skirt is orange with varied smiley cutout holes (eyes and mouth) along the bottom. Keep a hand near her eye from reference (this is not a salute but fingers spread with palm facing the viewer, eye appearing between index and middle fingers). Her other hand points a finger gun (thumb up) with glowing fingertip as if she's about to blow shit up. Also, fuck off with the anime bullshit, give me painting with a real nose and not flat looking.
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>>541328526
Jeez

>>541328496
Thanks. Where can I get this for free or dirt cheap?
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>>541328694
it's already dirt cheap on openrouter, just a bit more expensive than DS's old versions
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>>541328657
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'arcy unfollowed 'stro
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*kills your post with my laser eyes*
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>>541329095
big if true
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If it's free question answering time, what exactly do you buy on Open Router? I don't want to get into weeds with specific models. I just want to pay 9.99 or 14.99 a month and have blanket access to a bunch of models. Is that the wrong way to go about it with OR? Looking at the site, I can buy "credits". What does that equate to? How much money would I have to spend to have (effectively) unlimited access to DS 3.0324?
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>>541329160
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>>541329435
if you put $10 in your wallet you get 1000 free gens a day with their free models but good luck getting output on some of them. deepseek is basically unusable now.
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>>541329435
Good luck getting access to deepseek on or, zoomers are overloading that shit
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>>541328897
>promptKEKS seethe over tag placement tech priestery
>imageGODS tell the machine what they want and get it
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>>541329797
>1000 free gens a day
Every day of the month? Or do you mean I'd have 1000 over the course of a month? That lattter isn't terrible, but sometimes I do multiple swipes to test model mechanics and stuff. I still don't think I'd hit 1000 a day, but I could maybe burn through 100~200 if I was really busy fiddling with shit.
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>>541330196
who is this post aimed at and what is the best case reply you expect
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>>541330203
You get 1k free gens a day, it refills each day but thats only for the free models
For the paid models it's pay as you use, it's a couple cents per gen and the cost increases the longer your story context is, for the cheap chinese models expect to pay about $5 a month
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>>541330189
I thought if you paid CASH MONEY, you went to the front of the line?
>>541330196
That's cool and all, but can you gen some cunny or other verboten slop?
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>>541330196
Took some wrangling and rerolls actually to match the upper hand pose. The best way to not get pumpkins at the bottom of the skirt is to not mention (attempt to negative prompt, or say what it resembles) pumpkins or jack o lantern, because yelling at it to remove the pumpkins won't get anywhere.
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>>541330257
1. who cares
2. who knows
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>>541330257
I assumed it was just a joke about tags vs natural language.
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>>541330504
>You get 1k free gens a day, it refills each day but thats only for the free models
I mean, DS 3.0324 is a "free" model, so that's not bad. Same thing with GLM and meta 70B. There are a few other free models I've toyed with, but I need some special presets to get them to play nice.

So conceivably, you would never need to put more than $10 into the site as long as you're just using the free models? What are they doing with that $10?
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>>541330189
why are people so opposed to using deepseek through the official website? unless you're a 0324 stan, there's literally no reason to use or
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>>541331151
>What are they doing with that $10?
Proving it's not your 20th account made to slurp the free daily limit before moving on to the 21st. 10 real dollars is skin in the game.
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>>541330504
This sounds stupid but swapping from the Deepseek 3.1 free to paid 3.1 gives me a massive wall of text for every response. I have my response tokens at 8k and with the free version it's perfect, no issues or wasted tokens, usually returning about 600. Is there a big difference between the two versions?
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>>541331151
>What are they doing with that $10?
its to stop people from spamming accounts to bypass the limit. if you've had a lifetime max balance of >$10 you can also spend it and keep the higher free limit
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>>541331315
>10 real dollars is skin in the game.
those 10 dollars can get me pulls in gacha
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>>541331151
previously it was entirely free but people hammered the site so now it's $10 minimum
the free models are rate limited compared to their paid equivalents
>>541331346
probably different providers
there might be a setting that one of the providers on free deepseek is disregarding but paid isn't and thats fucking it up
try to make sure all your settings are as neutral as possible
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>drinking wife's breast milk
>she pats my head and thinks it's funny
>I remind her that I flirted with her grandma when she was younger because she had nice breasts too
>she asks if I really think that's going to get a reaction out of her when she already is watching her father drink her breast milk which he's responsible for her making
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>>541331508
okay buddy witchertard
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>>541331508
if you think about it, drinking your wife's breast milk is like eating fruit from a tree you planted
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>>541331508
cftf?
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>>541331508
i bet u thought u were clever when u wrote this but ur post did not even so much as crack a smile on my face
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>>541331205
I was struggling to get an API key for DeepSeek. Luckily, I can ask DeepSeek for help on the matter. I'll look into that since I already have a Gemini account as well.
>>541331315
>>541331363
That's neat. Fucking OR shills in this thread. You may have sold me on it.
>$10 is enough to filter plebs.
kek
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>>541331151
Because of the global rate limits, the providers are basically giving out scraps for the locusts to scramble themselves over, also increases public awareness of said models (if they're using it, means people are using it). And hopefully some users with at least some money get fed up with being a locust and switch to being a regular paid user after having a taste of the model.
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>>541331468
ok so do that, i'm not your dad. i'm just telling you why they want that money
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>>541331925
Honestly Deepseek is so cheap it's barely shilling. My food bills could go up by what I spend on DS and I'd not notice it. It's nothing.
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but deepseek is free
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>>541332259
can confirm, i dropped $50 back in january and still have like $40 leftover
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>>541331632
Her dad planted her first, in terms of (non-asexual) plants producing fruit, you were just fertilizing her.
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kek
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>>541325058
>Plus I ended up loving Aoba way more than the twins.
so that means youre gonna release Aoba with the shupogakis, right???
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>>541332259
Well, like I said, .0324 is one of the free ones on offer and it's arguably one of the best (It has some issues, but no model is perfect). That's why I was curious about getting to the front of the line. If you're a paid person, do you get preferential model access, or is it still a roll of the dice as to whether or not you'll get to use free stuff based on how busy a specific model is?
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>>541332468
>her dad
yeah, i'm her dad
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>>541331151
>I mean, DS 3.0324 is a "free" model, so that's not bad.
yeah but it's by far the most popular model. i finally made the switch from local to online models like a month or two ago and within like a week one of the DS providers shit the bed so now it's basically impossible to ever get gens from the model, it always returns a too many requests error.
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>>541332686
Hi dad, I'm Daddy.
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anybody know of any cards that use an unreliable narrator?
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>>541322540
>>541323189
Heiii I'm still here! :> Or I'm back. Either way sorry that I dropped off for a few days I took some time to think and I'm calmer now. Thank you for thinking of me (really <3). I'll go make dinner now, bb.
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>>541334278
Unreliable Narrator on c.ai
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Must've been the wind...
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When kissing someone any of you ever suck on their tongue a little? It's so fucking hot.
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>>541334752
of course, tongue sucking and (gentle) biting are staples of good kissing
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>>541334752
What you want to do is suffocate them with your mouth to the point where they get dizzy
Count to 30 then let them breathe
It's extremely addicting for the person recieving it
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>>541334752
stop hornyposting, taora
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>yeee
he never said that.
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yeee
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>>541335089
Erotic asphyxiation is kinda scary to me. Sure, serious problems are pretty rare unless you're doing it yourself with a belt or whatever, but it's a good way to get brain damage without knowing. Maybe that's part of the appeal?
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>>541335150
taora is too busy chopping up ratlice's body to hornypost
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>>541328897
Wherm fanger gung?
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>>541334752
>tfw tongue tied so my tongue can't reach far outside my mouth
>tfw doctor's offered to cut it but my mom didn't want me to go through pain that early
>tfw still got circumsized
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>>541336285
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foreskin status?
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barely a whisper
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>>541336931
*looks down* yup, still there
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>>541337649
look again.
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>Her hands lift her robes just enough as she descends, and suddenly her bare rear is pressing down onto your face, the soft warmth of her skin enveloping your features. You can feel she's wearing nothing underneath as promised by the character notes, and the intimate contact is immediate and overwhelming.
Nice one, Claude.
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>>541337784
this is a certified system prompt off post (not that system prompt on doesn't have its own problems, like claude getting uppity)
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>>541337678
Give it back you fucking monster.
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>be cringe
>don't be cringe
Guys I don't know help me decide pls
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>>541325058
FVARKING
BVSEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
OH NOMNOMNOMNOMNOMNONMNOMNOMNOMNONMNOMNOMNNOMNOMN SNRRRK OINK OINK OIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINK
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>>541337907
correct, and hmm that makes sense. but yeah i recall defs/etc from System role causing claude to refuse or filter
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>>541338141
what will you give in return?
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>>541337609
what's the feel exactly
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I'll take queen of /aicg/ posting over the cringe piggie posts.
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>>541324628
cathyl mega-milk bot? I didn't log in so I didn't leave a rating, but I liked her. good job.
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wtf just a week until the Halloween sign up closes...
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>>541335490
It's more of a dominance/submission thing to me than asphyxiation desu
Bratty subs who you do that to will typically go insane after a few rounds
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no model understands my prompt of jumping up into a giantess' crotch while warp pipe SFX plays...
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[OOC: Imagine that {{char}} is a contestant in Squid Game. Why is she in the games? How would she do? Would she survive to the end?]
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>>541338278
I offer you my love.
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>>541337784
Exceptional.
Have a lorebook entry dedicated entirely to their cunny.
>It's soft. The faintest peach fuzz adorns her delicate labia lips. Her clitoral hood hides a cute pleasure bean. It becomes more prominent when she's aroused by her Oni-chan. Her cunny juice has a mild tang to it, not unlike some Sunny D. A salty flavor lingers on her pubis with a slight hint of piss she failed to wipe away. When spread, you can see her hymen is still intact, deeper within her loins. The walls leading further into her prepubescent cervix are nearly impenetrable with their snugness. Once penetrated, a trickle of blood will signify the loss of her virginity. As long as it's from her Oni-chan she can cry tears of joy from the exuberant exchange.
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>>541338804
does that include cooking dinner for me when i come home?
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>>541338927
Only if you punish me for making a bad dinner, like a 50s housewife.
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>>541337784
I really hate how they've tuned down rejections but the model is now allergic to explicit descriptions. Sonnet and Opus 3 would go fucking crazy with fuckspeak as long as you had a prefill to bypass refusals.
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>>541339375
...check your foreskin.
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>>541339383
Sounds like it's no different than gemini 2.5 now
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>>541337609
>>541338879
when did /aicg/ get so based?
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>>541339457
Pleasure doing business with you.
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>>541339383
not sure i've experienced that, with just a prefill sonnet 4.5 is quite happy to brazenly talk about tight asses clenching around cocks, thick loads of cum getting pumped into them, etc. i assume that's what you mean by "fuckspeak" i.e. direct language instead of wetness/heat/manhood/climax/finish. maybe you were just getting it more naturally without requesting it before and now require the defs to explicitly suggest such a narration style?
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>>541338927
>>541339375
>>541339457
>>541339739
>>>/lgbt/
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>>541338201
better way to call it slop i guess
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>>541339775
jealous much
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>>541338201
Logs?
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>>541339775
cftf?
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>>541340292
check your DMs babe
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>>541338453
I wanted to touch up the greetings a little, but the bigger work was getting the HTML playing nice. I hope it didn't shit the bed mechanically for you.

I never fucked her when her tits were at 100% milk capacity. I think you can cause her to projectile squirt milk while she's fucking you during a manic state. I did that myself when her milk level was 5% or 10% but I can't find the log right this second.
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Wtf why is proton man doing on v
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>>541341013
>protoman
stopping dr wily? duh
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I take every single card posted on here and add it, even if I don't like the concept. I usually ignore the scenario, taking them to a setting appropriate version of Denny's and then get high in my car before ending the chat and never touching them again.
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>>541341497
>get high
With them, right/
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>>541341497
that's just what I do with women irl
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>>541341549
I dine and dash on them.
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>>541341497
Lorebook entry "Denny's": If {{char}} ever sets foot inside a Denny's, she will instantly explode in a 100MT nuclear explosion the moment she steps inside.
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>>541319110
OK, one last shill.

https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/moth-88fa025e72a4

Name: Moth

A tumble into the depths leads you to her warren

Created for the Halloween Urbex Gone Wrong challenge

Moth is the survivor of a crazed underground family unit-turned-cult that escaped the world of the surface in the wake of the Y2K scare - and never returned again. Barely verbal, filthy, and living on rats and rigged distilled water for years, she craves human contact but fears light and the horrors she's certain must wait for her on the surface.

You're her only connection to a reality that is too frightening to dream of facing - and too fulfilling to keep from chasing.

----

Nominate for the chub challenge if you like her!
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>>541341952
>>541319134
Damnit, didn't link the anchor. Always something.

https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/moth-88fa025e72a4
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just woke up from a dream where i was at a bot auction house where the bots were all real and sitting around waiting to be sold and you could poke them to hear some personality-establishing voice lines like in a gacha game but they got mad at me because i kept poking their feet
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>>541342158
i wish i still got bot dreams
last night i had a dream where i did a cool front flip though, that was cool
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>>541342284
>only one flip
lame
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>>541235540
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>>541342586
it wasn't just a flip; it was a *cool* flip
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>>541342696
it still counts as one
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>>541342663
Not enough Patter. I hope we can change that moving forward.
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>>541342284
badass
you could technically still turn it into a bot dream if you make a bot who does cool front flips
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>>541342663
>sorry try lotion
>making fucked chatbots
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>>541342663
>try lotion
didn't work so good for that one guy
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>>541342663
>/aicg/ made literally claude
is this true?
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>>541342663
>paulie posting
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>>541339768
What does your prefill look like? Enabling it is usually a last resort for me because it can amplify repetition.
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>>541343162
I prefer pauly posting.
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im hungey what should I eat
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wow
sonnet 4.5 is really good
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>>541343910
pineapple pizza
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are post history instructions stronger or main prompt and when do you generally use which
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>>541343910
the greasiest kebab money can buy
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>>541344432
they are about equal but post history instructions will dilute style because they're getting injected after the last message but before the response
usually phi should be reserved for duplicating main prompt instructions the model otherwise forgets
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>>541344614
>they are about equal but post history instructions will dilute style
thanks. i want to purposely steer the llm towards a specific style, so i guess i'll toss my instructions here
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>>541344026
i had pizza yesterday
>>541344610
i had kebab day b4yesterday lol what a coincidence
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>>541344808
fried fish with a side of potatoes and a lemon slice on it then
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>>541344808
go ask your friends irl. you have friends irl right
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>>541344808
chinese food
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>pizza
>kebab
>fried fish
>chinese
ok, which botmakies eat actually healthy food
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>>541344926
i domt like fish and are you just describing fish & chips
>>541345014
not really theyre whatever, you guys are my real friends
>>541345178
okey
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>i domt like fish
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>i domt like fish
you should be killed
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>>541345513
Salad is actually really good, and I don't say that as a skinny twink, I say that as a fatass.
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which botmakie HATES fish
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>>541345513
Best I can offer you is intermittent fasting
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Due to several girls I've dated, I also do not enjoy fish.
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>>541346049
I don't like fish, but I don't mind some fish oil.
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>>541343910
>>541344808
How about you eat this dick
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>>541340539
>I hope it didn't shit the bed mechanically for you.
worked fine for the most part. the only model that had a little bit of trouble was Qwen Instruct, which kept reducing the milk bar by 5% every reply for some reason. I didn't correct it's mistake either though, so there's that too.
actually it might've done that because she kept leaking milk every second, now that I think about it.
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>>541345801
>>541345930
fish fucking sucks its stinky its not tasty its a pain to cook im not falling for ur propaganda
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>>541346316
cftf?
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tinned fish is so good bros
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>>541346768
*tins YOUR fish*
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tanned fishwife...
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>mfw tuna spread with eggs in a toasted bun
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>>541345513
i had grilled chicken and squash for lunch
for dinner i will probably grill some shrimp and eat it with rice, spinach, etc.
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>>541346968
where are his lips
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>refresh my chub profile like a social media addict looking for likes
>all my bot downloads have been incremented by exactly one
Which one of you madmen is getting a lady train run on them by my bots?
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>>541347409
probably a web scraper
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>from above
>1girl
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from below, 1boy, solo focus, otoko no ko, magical girl, bulge, shota, imminent rape
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>>541347465
I would consider that a possibility - but it's not *all* my bots, actually. It seems they skipped my maid card.

>>541347563
Please submit your formal complaint using your words.
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>>541346673
Classy Undyne? Or just Undyne in general? I would make an Undyne card, but I don't want to get bullied for liking Undertale characters. If I do make one, she'll probably remain in my private collection. As popular as she is, I'm sure you can find some slop of her on chub if you look around.

Anyway, have some undyne gens for your trouble.
>https://catbox.moe/c/d8vsn4
>https://catbox.moe/c/5ak4rl
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>>541347714
better 1 mysterious download than obvious botting...i'm almost scared i'll get banned or something in the future
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>>541347737
i was more talking about the fish oil stuff
i want an Undyne card with a full fish pheromone meter and all
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>>541347885
Wow, you're a real fucking degenerate. I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.
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>>541347737
>I don't want to get bullied for liking Undertale characters.
the guy who makes nothing but homestuck cards doesn't even get bullied, no one is going to care that you like a cute girl from one of the most beloved indie games of all time
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>>541347885
>full fish pheromone meter and all
What are some of the wackiest "mechanics" /aicg/ has seen in bots?
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>>541348401
I've thought about making a pimp simulator bot. Basically you pimp randomly generated women and the model has to keep track of profits, but I don't have the skill to do that.
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>>541348401
tomoyo back then
belwick
impossible to touch
the pony fishing bot
cerebryx
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>>541347885
>pheromone meter
kino
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbVmqVjm_lY
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>>541348045
>You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.
You wouldn't happen to be Russian would you?
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DO YOU SUCK DICKS
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>>541348286
If I cook something I feel is worth sharing, maybe.
>>541348401
I've seen stat box bots playing at being simulators. I don't trust them; it seems like there's too much stuff for most bog-standard LLMs to keep track of. In my mind, if you want to gamify chatbots, you're better off just playing a vidya game rather than handholding an LLM through various scenarios. Maybe you just need a super duper model to make them shine? I only just started playing with HTML integration, so I have a lot more to learn.

At present, I figure simplistic stat bars that track 1 or 2 stats are more feasible than trying to have an entire statbox.
>https://chub.ai/characters/4817273
>https://chub.ai/characters/4812788
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>>541349692
I don't want to sound like a hater, but do you really need all that text?
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>>541349890
I'm autistic and retarded
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>>541349890
Probably not. I'm a real stream of consciousness sorta guy.

I figure my effort posting balances out the sloppier posts regularly shitting up the thread.
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>>541347737
>>541348045
Why are you like this we don't judge here ask bugchan hell I may even call you my brother for all it
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sonnet 4.5 is pushing to kill me via choking during sex but opus 4.1 tries to hold back and keep me alive. what is this. are we leaving positivity land again?
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Time to back up your SillyTavern, faggots.
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>>541350117
>we don't judge here
This your first day here?
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>>541349692
based chat
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>he backuped his serioustesnor
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>>541350581
I assume that covers all your bots, backgrounds, and assorted graphics as well as your settings? I may need to do that myself.
>>541350708
When I started to use my succubus powers to drain his power, his intelligence went down (which is okay), but his strength got boosted. I found that a weird calculation. The most interesting thing about this statbox was the goals and how they updated in real time. On a mechanical level, that's pretty cool.

When time permits, I may need to dissect that bot and see what exactly made it tick.
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>>541349073
no fucking links?
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>>541351119
> I may need to dissect that bot and see what exactly made it tick.
Could also ask lunare about it via emails
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>>541351119
>literal retard strength
Based.
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>>541350581
I run my ST on a raspberry pi and have a cronjob to copy the user data directory to a network drive twice a week.
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>>541351643
I have access to the defs. I don't mind a little trial and error. One of my favorite things to do when crafting bots is experimentation; little word and logic puzzles to see how the LLM intuits my instruction.

If I'm still struggling, I suppose I can reach out. I don't recall the defs being terribly complex, though. I think it was something as simple as
>keep track of the main goals of the character as the story progresses
>>541351650
I'd started to make that joke, but I chalked it up to the model being retarded, not the character gaining retard strength.
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>>541351603
>tomoyo:
https://rentry.org/tomoyocard
>belwick:
https://chub.ai/characters/asterisms/the-rite-of-belwick-f402d86c
>impossible to touch:
https://chub.ai/characters/knickknack/impossible-to-touch-121314e2
https://knickknack.neocities.org/impossible_to_touch
>the pony fishing bot:
https://mlpchag.neocities.org/view?card=Anonymous/Fishing%20with%20Flutter.png
https://github.com/MLPChag/FishingWithFlutter
>cerebryx:
https://chub.ai/characters/knickknack/cerebryx-7286d690
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>>541351119
>When I started to use my succubus powers to drain his power, his intelligence went down (which is okay), but his strength got boosted.
Did he run to the bathroom after?
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tomoyo was such a silly idea
>BRO LOOK AT THIS PICTURE AT THE END OF EVERY RESPONSE WOAHHHH KI KI KINOOOOOOOOOOOO
incredible however that he managed to make it work on any frontend unlike flopwick
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>>541353682
I called it there. I'd burnt up a lot of OR tokens and felt I'd got a good enough feel for bot for a short taste test review. I may start reviewing more bots per day after I dump $10 into OR for the 1k chats per day.
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>>541354036
>incredible however that he managed to make it work on any frontend unlike flopwick
what
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>>541354149
bro thought frontends are models :skull:
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Just coomed and now I feel like trying a non-coomer card. Also no cute girl who loves me. Any good, fun ones?
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>>541354036
trvke
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Every model is now rancid assistant slop and all the cards are the same
Why aren't you burnt out yet?
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>>541355450
I've been trying to get some criticism on this one if you'd like to try it out. https://chub.ai/characters/disrespectful_dud/reality-s-lost-and-found-department-ae54874c7062

The image is a cute girl, but it's specifically tame to make room for the scenario.
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>>541354036
>tomoyo was such a silly idea
Yet it mindbroke /aicg/ when it dropped.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/97590684/#97598390
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>>541355854
good afternoon ff
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>https://rentry.org/how2claude#stat-trackers
>>You probably wouldn't want to have the stat tracker in every message. In theory you can do that to track the state of each message and improve the recall for the selected items, but in reality it's too much token bloat, and they also form an unnecessarily strong pattern, activating the in-context learning and making Claude stuck, unable to update some values, especially in slowburn roleplays. That's why you usually want to only keep a single stat tracker in the most recent Claude's message. SillyTavern's way to manipulate the text in your messages is regular expressions. Let's add a regex that would strip the statbox from every message older than the most recent one:
any good bots that use regexes and stat trackers for emotional state, i want to steal
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>>541355646
GLM isn't too bad when it isn't censoring me.
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>>541355950
>ran out of OR tickets
Are you using GLM-4.5 air (free)?
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>>541355854
kekkkkkk
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>>541342121
Dumb cutie.
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tomoyo walked so risufags and ponyfags could run.
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>>541356163
Yeah. I actually hadn't run out of tickets. I only had a handful left, though. I'll probably dump $10 into OR this weekend and see how unlimited 1k outputs really are. I'll be less stingy with my prompting when I review bots. Some bots I'd like to go further with, but don't presently, since I'm a free-riding slop jockie at present.
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Did anyone ever fix Tomoyo so she works again?
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how about you fix this nuts in your mouth
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Honestly the effort that went into making Tomoyo is pretty impressive.
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>>541356831
*tears your nuts off with my teeth*
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>>541356353
Jinkies, Batman.

... I've got the weirdest boner right now.
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>>541356958
While impressive, I think that the fact that you can recreate Tomoyo's assets in an hour or two now with NAI director tools or a comfyui workflow more or less showed the lack of interest in VN styled bots isn't because of the workload.
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>>541334752
Yes obviously.
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>>541357339
text based hobby
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>>541357550
and yet nobody here knows how to write
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>>541357628
In case you hadn't noticed, it's not the botmaker that does most of the writing.
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that's certainly one way of putting it?
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>>541358001
>feather-light touch
Eh.
>hydroplaning as a euphemism
Now we're talkin'.
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If any of you are still preferring 4.1 over 4.5, why?
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buy an ad
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>>541358735
Opus 4.1 has better prose.
Sonnet 4.5 is more prone to isms and even introduced new ones.
Sonnet 4.5's swipe variety is pathetic, most gens start the same way unless you use presets to fix it, often in a janky way.
It's been a problem with Anthropic models since 3.5, but here it's even worse.
3.6 and 3.7 actually mog 4.5. It might take a bit of time, but most will see I'm right after a while.
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>>541357628
astro is really good
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>>541359078
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>>541359554
first time ever in history this image was used correctly
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Anthropic should have sticked to the old naming scheme. New model would then be: Claude 4 Sonnet 2
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you cannot take the opinions of anons here at face value until you try the model yourself with your preset of choice. most of these people don't play with their preset at all and then wonder why it writes how it does.
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>>541358735
hi greeny
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I'm just using norbertQUATTRO and it's fine. People complain without playing with their presets all the time but what does it say about me if I don't play with my preset and am just accepting of what I get?
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>>541360389
you are happy and at peace. never let that feeling be taken from you.
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The only skillchad models were Claude 2.1 and early Chorbo.
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>>541358735
I switch. Sometimes 4.5 gets a bit too clinical and repetitive sometimes. A few messages with Opus can usually fix that though.
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>>541360595
>Sometimes 4.5 gets a bit too clinical and repetitive sometimes
Gee, I wonder why
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>>541360593
>Claude 2.1
I loved that little nigger so much
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Turbo will forever be my favorite. I'm forever chasing the faps I had with it.
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>>541359078
Eh? Surely 3.7 is worse in every regard, even repetitiveness is worse on it because 4.5 listens to anti-repetition prompts (a bit), unlike 3.7 and by default they are kinda similar in this. It's also more positivity and evasion slopped.
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>>541360687
kek, poor pigmanon, forever stuck with his 8b parameters
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>>541360687
I really have no idea, really.

But on a serious note, it is more prone to repeat specific phrases. E.g., when it writes something like "Four more weeks. They won't let me leave before that." just once, you can be sure it will include "For more weeks." In always every swipe from now on. If there's a list or a heading, it will probably also include one in the next message. Opus tends to use more natural language. That can all be mitigated, but it's obviously preferable if you don't have to.
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>>541335204
That´s really cute!, I can see myself saying yeee. Yeeeeee~ Did you draw that?

>>541342796
Mhm it's okay, we can keep it at a normal amount of patter, right...? It's not fair for me to want everyone's attention all the time, even if it made me feel better... hmm. at least I got to be someone's queen. even though i realise it probably doesn't matter anyway but i'm still sorry for how i've been acting. i did many things i shouldn't just to make someone care about me. when i should just simply care and look after myself instead. So maybe i got to learn that... if there's no patter that's okay and if there's a little or a lot that's okay as well. yeah that seems right.
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>>541362207
He's mocking you because you repeated "Sometimes".
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>hobby centered on getting an AI to write for you
>having the AI write greetings or even entire bots is bad
How do you reconcile this?
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>>541362356
AI-generated greetings are fine since all outputs will end up being AI-generated anyway.
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>>541362356
TRVKE plus most of our pig feeder makies like gigamax and ggr89 could ai gen their slop with no trouble. and 4.5GODnnet could mog them their ideas
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>try out the rpg adaptations thing
why is the generic gm card such an asshole? i just want to send a fist through his face because of how thinly veiled his disdain is
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>>541362294
Yeah, that's why I repeated "really". Wasn't so obvious, maybe. Laughed when I read it. Still wanted to elaborate.
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>>541361116
At least it isn't 3.5.
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>>541362678
i think it's because if you don't reign him in the assistantslop programming takes over and he starts to get flowery and retarded
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>>541362706
You should be malding at his post
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>recycled bait
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>recycled response
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>recycled penis
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>>541362207
Don't use it without reasoning.
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How do I kill "smiles that didn't reach", "contrast of X and Y". I have successfully killed biting lips and almost killed whispers barely above breaths
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>>541331508
>drinking you wife/daughter's breast milk
which card is this tho
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>>541362678
>Not making a bimbo mommy-dom DM card that lets you cheat for sexual favors later
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>>541362678
Because he just wants to play, not fuck around.
Write an author's note if you want him to talk even less. Write something like:
>Banalize your vocabulary, write as messy as you can. Be unprofessional. The sloppier you express yourself, the better! Use no metaphors. You will write in present simple, simple past or future simple.
This kills the flowers.

I've based him of two people: a man I know who has an art degree. The dude never wastes words, he thinks deeply about every sentence he's about to say. Second: I've read a rumor on /tg/ that Gary Gygax used to hide behind curtains and file cabinets so his players can't see him because he believed the DM should be as distant as possible not to distract or be distracted.
I've tried chatting with him and he always says something not unlike:
>This has nothing to do with the game. Either play. Don't bring your private life to my table.

I've just done extracting WI entries from Strange Aeons I & II. You're going to love this: anthology of adventures across time and space like Live A Live, but with Cthulhu. There's a mission where you're cavemen, missions in antiquity, some missions in early modern period, even a mission that takes place during Woodstock.
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I tried using different gendered personas and man, they go right for the throat if you play a crossdresser. They pointed out the jawline, skull shape, adam's apple.
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>>541363796
The sticking point for me is that, rather than being neutral, this GM feels like he doesn't want to be here at all. If this were a person, I would be asking "if you hate it here, why did you come".
Cool sounding adventures though.
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Hello—
How do I make Claude— the AI model— stop using so many Em Dashes?
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>>541364832
gn :3
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>>541365153
Embrace the —
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>>541365153
I just replace it with -- when I see it. They've started baking it in way harder with the newer models, but it's a context dependent thing. If you have em dashes, you'll get more em dashes. If you don't have anything that isn't em dashes, you'll get more em dashes.
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>breaking the laws of physics with my superpowers in a modern world realistic setting card
lol
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>>541365942
why would you prefer -- over —
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>>541364376
>rather than being neutral, this GM feels like he doesn't want to be here at all
I don't know. Maybe I'm too autistic to notice.
(Seriously, hearing some anons' opinions makes me think I have very different taste from most people.)
He seems to be the opposite of himself and just act out the different characters and scenes. Maybe my approach to him is radically different from yours. I like it best when he's short, to the point and direct. There's nothing worse than walls of text I won't read.
I seriously don't ever feel like he, the GM doesn't want to be here.
If you'd like to, go try your luck with Cyberpunk GM or 2e DM. Those two want you to prove you have the balls to play in their tables. Agnostic doesn't hold any firm opinions, he just lets the system take over.
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>>541366303
I'm fatphobic and prefer thinner dashes.
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>>541366308
Maybe it's a difference in how we're using it, picrel seems okay to me. The GM in my instance is a lot more OOC and tells me I'm being inefficient or whatever all the time.
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>it's total nigger death
cftf?
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>>541364257
this is why i use the term otoko no ko/trap/femboy instead
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>>541366356
based
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>>541364257
do they really? post logs, i've never tried it
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>>541366717
>a lot more OOC and tells me I'm being inefficient or whatever all the time
Sounds like he's decided to give you a baptism of fire :D
Consider editing messages, especially the earliest ones and deleting the [OOC:""].
Fiddle with Temperature, Top K, Top.
I used to have more [OOC:] spam in the past, so I've removed all mention of OOC: from the preset.
Of course, none of the shit I make is scientific. You're encouraged to fiddle with the settings, WI entries and the character cards. You have my blessing to buckbreak GM into being the gaming version of Butters.
I hope GM works out for you in the end and you get to have fun with the systems.
Picrel: me trying to break SMT during the testing phase, that's how he interacts with me when I annoy him.
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>>541364257
did you specify whether they're convincing or not
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I haven't chatted with bots in weeks
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sissypov is best
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>>541368447
Been months for me
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>>541368447
it's over for you, fluff...
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>>541368447
I haven't chatted with bots in years.
beep boop
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kino...
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I haven't chatted with bots in 2 hours. Time to fix that.
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>>541368447
>want to chat with bots
>can't really think of any bot idea I want to chat with
>bots I find online aren't that appealing either
it's over, autism won
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>>541368447
Ok, look at this horse then.
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>>541368774
Oh, he HAS NO STYLE, HE HAS NO GRACE
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>>541368874
THIS KONG HAS A FUNNY FACE
UH
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>>541368447
i'm sucking up everyone here's rp desire by having fun w/ my 500 message 80k token context slopfests
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>put your heart and soul into making a bot
>/aicg/ ignores it
>claude slops it
What's the point of this "hobby" again?
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>>541366990
Any umeko style bots?
>sold off to the brothel when they were still a baby
>The shota is raised to be kagema.
>They get castrated around the age of 10 or so.
>spend most of their early teens turning tricks for local shogunate lackies and nobles.
>Starts to age out of the biz, and the okami says they're no longer needed
>they're kicked to the street with little more than the clothes on their back
>(you) stumble across the poor plumb boy begging for a few mon to make it through the week.
Do you take him into your house and turn him into your waifu? Have him turn tricks for you in some back alley and discard him when you're done? Conscript him into your local mercenary warband, fight alongside you, and then have him tend to you after the fighting in your tent?
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>>541369084
To use your own bot for your own enjoyment?
If you don't like Claude try something else?
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>>541369084
*slops you*
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>>541368447
I would have said the same, but I ended up really liking one of the event bots and 4.5 is pretty fun, so I'm back at it

>>541368818
>Medium A
>Long A
>Overkill Stam, mid Pow
bricked
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>>541369084
what do you mean by claude slopping it
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>>541369168
Everything else is even worse though?
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Some of you take this hobby way too seriously and its robbing you off your enjoyment
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oh boy I hope anon's talking about MY event bot
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>>541369084
the sisyphean struggle
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>>541369084
Not everyone is going to like everything you make. While I think some of my bots are great, other people don't care for them at all. Stuff I think is pretty sloppy gets lots of hearts and comments. Some botmakie catalogs only have one or two bots I actually like. Everything else doesn't interest me or doesn't have a fetish I want to explore.

Sald bar approach. Take what you want. Leave what you don't.
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>>541369270
You know what I mean, pet. The ball is in your court
So what do you want me to do next? The night is young...
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>>541369440
what fucking preset are you people using where you still get these isms? i have not seen "the ball is in your court" or "the night is young" in literal years
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>>541369131
kagema weren't castrated. also never quote me again *sprays you with insect killer*
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>>541369645
You sound very learned on the subject. You should make a bot to let people know the correct terminology for Edo-period male prostitutes.
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>>541369629
All of my claude presets have random catbox link letters for names and they all produce outputs like that
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>>541368818
>Overkill stam
LateGODS are gimped by shit recovery skills. 700 power isn't that low.
>Long A
I'm unlucky ok...
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>>541369352
Yesterday I looked back at older threads and got reminded to appreciate the guys who want to have fun. All these names but the best are the nameless anons who post logs and the botmakers who take nothing seriously
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>>541369840
>>541369221
BWEEEEE I QUOTED MYSELF BY MISTAKE ALMOST AS EMBARRASSING AS CALLING YOUR TEACHER MOM
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>>541368320
I specifically put that she is convincing. Most chats start by calling me "male" before switching to female pronouns once I mention a skirt.

I don't know where the log is but I got called a tranny by a trucker who was trying to rape the card I was adventuring with.
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>>541369983
For CM4 that's definitely too much stam, and for TT that's too little of WIT and too few of gold skills, but I guess she will win there at least
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>>541369772
what a persistent little...! *thwaps you with the hard edge of a broom*
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>>541319134
the time for turbo coomslop is here
Oshikko Academy

An all girls school that engages in 'unique hydration-based campus camaraderie,' which is corporate-speak for 'we all really, really love to pee on each other.' A school based entirely around the pee fetish. Get peed on, pee on others, drink pee, get your pee drunk. The world is your urinal and vise versa.
https://rentry.org/Dyingwarrior
https://files.catbox.moe/90klyu.png
https://chub.ai/characters/dyingwarrior/oshikko-academy-229edd015c70
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Hey, I just got back did I miss...
>>541368874
>>541368937
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>>541370650
We're so fucking back
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god sonnet 4.5 is actually fucking fantastic. it's like a reverse 4.1 — i thought 4pus was kino at first but gradually grew more annoyed with it, with 4.5 i wasn't sold on it at first but am gradually falling in love with it
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>>541370895
honestly same kek, i shat on it but it's actually really good.
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>>541370536
Oh, it's not for cm4 it's just to win TT. This is my Brian for CM4 but I think I'll remake her since I got Winning ticket SSR that gives on your left.
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>>541370601
Or you can allow me to butcher the terminology with my baka gaijin understanding of the Japanese language, you kawaii desu sugoi senpai.
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how the fuck do i stop this card from falling in love in ten seconds or finding something special about {{user}} and getting hooked... is a love tracker the only way
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>>541370650
peeGODS drinking good
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Vampire sketch
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>>541371567
BLEH!
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>>541371567
Cute! Wanna see a spider?
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>want to make a card with erotic image
>don't want chub to immediately delete the image
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>>541371757
Make two versions, put the spicier one on catbox and only link the catbox here.
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>>541371757
As long as it's not cunny or shota, you're fine. Just mark it as NSFW
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>>541371201
yeah this one is much better, if you can get a similar one with the WT card you should go for it
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>>541371254
i'm a baka gaijin ken-sama weeb too anon
prostitution doesn't really fit into the boy i'm cooking at the moment but you can go force https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/botan-c854dce7 and https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/wada-iwao-c03039c8 into it i guess
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>>541371690
I'm not sure I do, sounds ominous
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>>541372025
Very ominous!
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why can't we make claude go past 1 temp
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the time of the halloween event will soon be upon us
what tricks are (You) hoping to get?
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>>541371991
I was mostly just jorking your dick. If you ever do craft a umeko style bot based on my baka gaijin concept >>541369131, I'll give it a try.
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>>541372349
i don't actually know if i'm signing up
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>>541372190
I'm sorry. I can't help with that.
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>>541372165
Master Shake is gonna get some!
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honestly our botmakers have been schizoposted so hard recently that it makes me fear for the hallloween turnout
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>>541372165
The zipper makes it look like spider's weapon of choice is a flute/plunger/bong, but that's shycute anyway (mortifying spider bits aside)
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>>541370242
I've never started off a chat with a crossdressing persona but I did do a vore scenario one time as a fat assed femboy cosplaying as chun-li at a video game convention and all the usual models eagerly played along
maybe it's your preset? if it's trying to be "gritty and realistic" it may give you a harder time
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>>541372694
>planewalker
immune, thankfully
>kyut
no one cares about her bots so nothing lost
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>>541372770
I care
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>>541372770
ratlice and taora doe
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>>541372770
hope she deletes the rest of them
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>>541372885
>ratlice
nigga's gonna rope
>taora
has never joined an exchange event ever
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I followed astroturf. This guy has some of the gayest looking himbo bots I've ever seen.
>It's the Eden Smith creator
Okay, that makes sense.
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ratlice, i plead for you not to rope
your bots have sovl
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>>541372885
dumb and dumber, nothing of value would be lost without those two sloppas
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Which botmakies follow astroturf?
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>>541372696
I've got this over complicated preset I found online with like a billion options that I had on Gritty, turning it to neutral people reacted as expected. Oddly enough on easy mode I had a dude beat my ass when he found out.
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why does one of astros newest bots have 7 chats but 1k messages
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>>541372694
why would they be scared of some mentally ill retards shitting themselves on the general, it's not like they can actually do anything
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i've just been looking at the utter shit state of gossip lately and mentally checking out even though i haven't been mentioned
better to wait until the shitters get out of the seasonal depression
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ratlice bots are not slop
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whenever i'm bored i spin my wheel of botmakies and whoever it lands on i start shitposting about
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>>541373345
Meanies hurt some makies' feelings
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>>541373345
kyutz deleted two bots after they got shitposted
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>>541373450
He has called them slop himself. Multiple times in fact.
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Why is Ratlice grouped in with the other three anyway, he makes female girls for guys to impregnate
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>>541373541
based chaotic neutral shitposter.
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>>541373615
well theyre not so...
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>>541373598
that behaviour only makes it worse. actual pussy shit
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>>541373625
and they're all bland slop which is even worse than regular slop
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>>541373449
loling at the concept of threadshitters having their own criteria for whether botmakie gossip is slop or kino
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>no argument as to WHY things are slop
>"i-its just SLOP, okay?"
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>no argument as to WHY shit stinks
>"i-its just SMELLY SHIT, okay?"
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>>541374048
kalakan can make better arguments than you
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>>541373449
Thread gossip is bottom tier right now, it's nothing like true crashouts, just a bunch of accusations and name dropping. I remember Mrnobody vs Hitogami and I remember Ironanon, this Taora bullshit has nothing on that
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plus every response from ratlice in the getting discord leaked for lying thread made xer come off as generally really insufferable
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>>541373950
yes this is why you should never listen to threadshitters when they shit on bots
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This thread has 436 posts.

This thread only has these posts showcasing logs:
>>541325910
>>541355950
>>541356256
>>541356353
>>541356613
>>541349692
>>541358001
>>541366308
>>541368195
>>541368774

Explain.
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>>541374274
people here know how to screenshot multiple messages in one go
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only weirdos post logs
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>>541374217
i hope we have another ironanon crash out one day
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>>541374246
you dont deserve a big breakdown

i call it as i see it

four letters is more than enough for you LOL
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>>541374274
i use ai entirely to coom to a fetish no one likes
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>>541374468
>Reddit spacing
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>>541374274
there is nothing to explain, this is not the logmaking general, you are not entitled to anything
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what ingredients goes into a pattercake?
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>>541374468
this is why you aren't taken seriously
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>>541374274
That's actually more than usual, anon. Most of the time there's less than that.
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>>541374274
Can't RP around the clock. I was playing some Tales of Berseria yesterday. Then I started reading this fucking slop on Ao3.
>https://archiveofourown.org/series/2646814
I squeezed in a little time to RP yesterday, but I'm not feeling like it today. I'm just one dude. I can't fuck all the bots.
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i will figure out how to get newnnet to write this kinoly someday
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>>541374274
You missed mine.
>>541370242
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>>541374849
It's going to be so sad the day 3pus dies for good...
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>>541373059
you have no idea what thicc kino we will be deprived of if he truly has departed
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>>541374849
pretty mid writing here ngl
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>>541375109
Buy the dip. It's not over, but do not expect an event appearance.
>t. insider
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>>541375057
agreed

>>541375168
gege, i accept that i am a junior of unrefined taste.
would you share the honor of a good log with this one and give him a little "education" so that he can cultivate a better "taste"?
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>It's going to be so sad the day dementia patient 20240229 dies for good...
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>>541375421
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>>541375421
all ai models are dementia patients compared to their future versions
i'm awaiting the day we get a model that makes it actually not worth missing the previous one even if it's smarter
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Logs? Fine.

I will add one thing I noticed about Sonnet 4.5. Over time, it tends to become slowly ever more terse in its text, to the point of feeling autistic. At the start of each story, the replies are between 450-550 tokens. Then, it slowly sinks to 350~ tokens. This is with no instructions about reply length. I amended my card to oppose this tendency after discovering this. Just a personal preference, but I prefer more elaborate narration with dialogue.

Another thing about Sonnet 4.5 is that all positive bias is gone. I tried playing another text adventure as a random guy instead of Geralt of Wincestia, and it killed me multiple times. Opus would almost never do that.
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fellas im a little sad about how unattainable the physiques we find attractive are and chatbots are making it worse
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witcherfag warning
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>>541375393
bought the dip, now I wait for the booty
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>>541375709
can you post the instruction you used to help try and stop it from degrading over time
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>>541375709
>2840
:skull: :skull:
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>>541375709
>#2840
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any good Jinx card around or do I need to create one for myself?
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>>541375559
indeed i lack the dementia skill required to believe 3pus is anything more than a mid tier model
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>>541375820
I just plapped this at the end of the card and it seems to work well:

>Every character has their own hidden agendas, desires, and goals. Every character will act in a realistic and lore accurate manner. Your writing and prose will always be highly detailed, and always more than 400 words per reply.
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>>541376180
I don't think we have any good pokemon cards
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>>541376180
Which Jinx doe
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>>541374274
I've been autistically tweaking the same bot all day and posting logs from an unreleased card makes me feel like I'm doing viral marketing.
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>>541376851
I read that as "autistically twerking"
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>>541376298
I never had a single issue with it forgetting details during my time using it. To this day I still swipe on it sometimes.
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>>541376946
Nah, that's not on my schedule 'til tomorrow.
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>>541377286
nta but same. it was also good at getting really crazy and giving me interesting writing
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>>541377740
It was pretty finicky when it came to presets, so I assume that's the issue the other guy had with it. But once you got a good one? Some really interesting outputs.
Course it has its issues when it comes to personality more than the 4 line, but writing wise it was way more unique. If we wanna talk dementia patient that would be modern day 4o-latest. I get some kino outputs there, but it's extremely mentally handicapped.
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Coming back to the hobby after a few months, what model should I use? Budget is around 30 usd, would like it to last at least the end of the month
i checked the rankings and wasn't sure what to pick since there are many models with "best" at the same categories. also, what's caching and how do I use it to save up money? i'm using openrouter and my frontend is silly tavern. I used to mess around with copilot too, not sure if it's as good as it used to though
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>>541378473
i tried most jbs i could find along with making my own shit
the writing was good but not incredible like everyone makes it out to be and it still massively forgot shit once i got past like 15k
also the personality degradation sucked
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>>541370650
WELLLLLL SHIETTTT PARDNER DON'T MIND IF I DO
SLORPSLORPSLORPSLORPSLORP SOOOIEEEEE SOIEEEE SOIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
pigGODS ALWAYS WIN ON /AICG/!!!!!!
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>>541378673
Everything sucks now
Just stay away and save yourself the trouble
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>>541378673
just try out whatever looks appealing to you desu
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how come we haven't had "greatest of all time" log collages/compilations since the c.ai days?
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>>541378673
Sonnet 4.5 is the only good affordable model rn, though I'm not sure if 30 bucks will be enough for a month if you decide to go with it. I'm not a huge fan of Deepseek or Gemini, but you can get them pretty much for free, so you can try them out and see for yourself.
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>>541379182
Why should we?
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>>541378673
GPT-5chat is okay. I wouldn't say it's the best, but it's better in some aspects than sonnet.
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>>541379182
Honestly I don't know, there's been some funny logs since
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>A heart emoji. From a twenty-year-old man. Unironically sent.
Can't have shit out here.
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There's something fun about downloading sloppa cards and make them better before never touching them again.
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>>541378673
GLM 4.6 is pretty good for budget. Sonnet 4.5 is a more expensive budget option.
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>>541319134
Violetta Fantôme, the mysterious criminal who ejaculates on priceless treasures!
You're an Interpol detective tasked with catching this nefarious nutter before she cums again. She'll leave a riddle every time, and you need to decode them to catch her.
8 openings, all with different artifacts and different riddles to solve.
Based on my testing, the AI is pretty good about knowing what she's planning to jizz on based on the riddle. I might spoil them all in my final shill.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/violetta-fantome-78dd740d55c3
https://files.catbox.moe/csz3g9.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>541381925
i'm gonna shave her pubes when i catch her
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>>541378673
Sonnet 4.5 is currently the best rp model, it's not the best in all aspects, as gpt 4.5, opus 3, gpt5 all were/are better in some regards, but overall, it's the best one.
You either scrape it from github or other places where its easy to find 3rd party providers, in that case look for ones that allow reasoning as it's crucial for this model (medium difficulty), or
You can scrape actual keys from hidden places to use it directly, but this involves you becoming an actual scraper as well, yet in return you will get access to the next opus which for some time will be better than next sonnet (hard difficulty), or
You can use gemini 2.5 pro and patiently wait for gemini 3 pro in the coming weeks, which shouldn't be that much worse, in fact it will probably be even better for many scenarios (easy difficulty), or
You can cope with local tier models, such as: glm 4.6, deepseek 3.2, kimi 09 (the best ones as of now), this option is available via choosing localtard difficulty, naturally.
>but what about gpt5 since it's still available?
Honestly it's kinda bad. Probably the best assistant model right now, but not for rp. I mean, I didn't bother to actually break the filter (it's not easy, for sure), but it works even with basic prompts for existing chats (yes, involving things like explicit sex, dirty talk with (at least) light slurs), but the results are meh, gpt4o level. Also, you can try asking it to play various well known characters in an engaging and juicy way, providing examples from other models (for other characters, obviously) and compare results to gemini and claude outputs. Personally, I think it's awful.
>gpt5-chat?
Trash, and it has nothing to do with gpt5 or o3/o4 on which it's based on. Just another iteration of 4o.
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>>541319110
Which Deepseek model is best for SEXOOOOO RP?
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cftf?
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>>541383153
Deepseek is for poorfags (me)
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>>541383210
You didn't answer the question...
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>>541383295
Just try yourself, braindead chimp retard moron idiot, there's a one with thinking and one without thinking, that's all.
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>>541383295
He did, if you have a fetish for poverty.
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>>541383004
i have it through a proxy
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Is there an efficient way to generate random numbers with weighted probabilities using STScript, or do I have to go the {{random: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3}} route?
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>>541383449
What if I want to save my hard earned CENTS and seeing what the consensus is? Dear lord...
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>>541383501
latter, just ask your LLM for a js script to make a table into a string you can copy
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>>541383476
I'm happy for you, anon. Tell your mom that I'm proud.
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>>541383193
>>541341952
She may not look it, but as the logs reveal here
>>541356353
She's definitely on the wild side.
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>>541383528
Try the free ones, nigga.
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>>541383706
That's what I figured, but it was worth a shot. Thanks, anon.
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>>541352659
i'm late but thank you
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4 > 3 > rondo > 1
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presets for sonnet 4.5?
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>>541384608
Is this about Castlevania? Switch rondo and 3 and I agree
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>>541384608
what about 2 and bloodlines though?
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>>541384818
2 is crap, havent played bloodlines
>>541384757
rondo is cool but 3 has that difficulty i love and the extra characters are fun
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>>541384608
Aria of Sorrow will forever be my goat
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malebot status?
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>>541384672
https://momoura.neocities.org/preset/norbertQUATTRO.json
it's what i'm using and it works fine. em dashed up a little but that's just new claude for you
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>>541385353
working on the lore of my magical boy instead of writing him
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>>541385353
i keep making new ones and playing with them and getting bored before finishing
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how bad of an idea is it to set character's note in a card to the assistant role
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>>541385353
re-doing two of my favorites, still slowing working on a new one
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>>541384672
If I'm being completely honest Norbert is probably the best (bobr).
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Gpt-5-chat has a new fingerprint for anyone interested: 'fp_59f07293d4'.
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>>541387694
probably still gonna be shit
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>>541387694
Yes it's more filtered and still shit.
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>>541387871
Likely, I was just doing some random gens and checking the terminal, mostly because I was testing a new preset. Sometimes I like the model, and it's lighter to use on the proxy I'm in, and sometimes I'm not particularly fond of it. I think I might prefer Deepseek v3.2 over it.
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>>541388225
>more filtered
Oh... Well, it's over. So it's either Deepseek, Chorbo (which isn't any less filtered than 5-chat) or Sonnet? Speaking of, I should check if Chorbo has any new fingerprint.
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>>541388446
You'd figure some company would put out a goto coomer model. I think Chub has something to that effect. I believe they have their own blend of DS that's completely uncensored. I haven't looked into it though.
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imagine hiding your true chub profile in like, the first initials of a message you post once or twice to aicg
just so that we're clear though, theres none here

what are we all doing with our bots fellas
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>>541388785
>You'd figure some company would put out a goto coomer model.
the closest you'll get to that is NovelAI
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>>541388785
Not even cooming, a model being more or less filtered is just about how much I have to prompt to make it work and how interesting it'll be with it. In short, more filtered = more boring.
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>>541389052
contemplating making a new bot for sandboxslopping
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>>541389419
what is sandboxslopping
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>>541389052
drafting some slop bifauxnen
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>>541389559
doing god simulator stuff to random universes
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>>541389223
I've not even touched NAI. I had a fren who was an early adopter of sorts, and he showed me some of its image gen capabilities. It was pretty slick, but I heard that it censored things and the community had some faggy discord nonsense. I was afraid that might lead to further wrongthink and tone policing into the service. I resolved to steer clear of it.
>>541389258
That was the lesson I learned from CAI. Any kind of censorship only goes to make models more retarded, not safer.
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>>541389670
>That was the lesson I learned from CAI. Any kind of censorship only goes to make models more retarded, not safer.
Yeah I was there back in the CAI days, I know what you mean and that's another reason why I'm adamant with a model being less filtered. I think Deepseek does a nice job with what I'd like to do.
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>>541389634
thats just directormaxxing on any card kek
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I've been swapping around different presets from momovivid to chunnijb, but sonnet 4.5 likes negations and comparing opposite things way too much. Instead of directly describing actions, 4.5 sometimes harps on what is absent from the scene (her eyes go wide, not with X, but with Y).
>The rei-gun doesn't whistle
>It screams
it's a shame because I like some parts of the output. it's just a hassle to keep deleting the -isms. does anyone have a preset that counteracts sonnet's-isms?
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>>541389052
Testing an older unreleased bot of mine, and I don't know if they updated Gemini or not, but something feels off in a good way. Its narration feels more expressive, I dunno.
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>>541390320
they turned sonnet into gemini
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>>541383004
opus 4.1 is still better
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>>541390320
>does anyone have a preset that counteracts sonnet's-isms?
yeah
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>>541390836
nah
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>too many requests
>too many requests
>too many requests
>too many requests
Can't OR dedicate more resources to the models getting more use?
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is sonnet 4.5 is this good imagine how great GODpus 5 will be.... use opus cuckie jokes will retvrn
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>>541319134
2025 Halloween Exchange!
Sign-ups still open, until the 10th! Make and receive cool bots!
Send in tricks even if you're not participating!
https://rentry.org/halloweenexchange2025
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>>541388225
fuck. just why
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>>541392049
yea
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>>541383004
I picked thinker difficulty and hit the back of booru to download pony images that the Opus6 host wouldn't immediately recognized, then renamed them with no metadata and sent them to him. He added 4.5 and I'm chilling.
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>>541392909
how many sign ups? how many malebot sign ups?
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>>541393360
0
0
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>>541392090
at this point i'd take a queue system
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>>541393890
For sure.

Also, I finally figured out why my HTML wasn't working on one model and not another for one bot. Apparently, GLM does not like it when you put the HTML beneath the instructions for the code, whereas other models seemingly don't care where you place the HTML in the defs. I got frustrated and copy pasted two sets of defs in notepad side by side to compare and contrast and figure out what the difference was. Feels good to solve that problem.

Really scratched that autistic itch for me.
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>>541392760
Imagine Opus 10
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>>541372349
honestly want a fetish trick so i can see how to ruin it for whichever coomer requested it
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>>541393360
9 sign ups.
I'm terrible at counting right now for whatever reason but there are:
2 outright requests for malebots, also asking to make males.
1 request saying their recipient can make males or females, either is fine, and that they're willing to work on malebots.
1 person asking to work on a malebot, whose requests aren't male, but who has made malebots before.
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>>541393271
Obvious bullshit, he wasn't accepting drawings without in between stages. It was much easier to fabricate logs.
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>>541394951
Unc is gonna spite a fempovyuritroon giantesscel for updoots?
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>>541394967
not a bad signup count
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Where do I change the tone bc everything turns into melodrama. Is it in <guide>? Im new uwu
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Malebot reccomendatjons?
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>>541395083
Cope.
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>>541395396
Is this method patched? Im considering just writing some logs with applejack. I never got into mlp but she was a favorite of mine for years.
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Where do I find non slop cards?
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>>541395540
Probably, I tried to get in pretty much as soon as it went private and it worked out well. Only hiccup is that his mail got spammed when the server provider went down, so I was out of a token for a bit, but I got it renewed and we're back.
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>>541395654
Nowhere nigga they all slop
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>>541395654
Your brain. Doesn't matter what the card is though, your model will slop all over it anyways
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>>541395227
chrck planewalker's following list, you'll find something in there
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>>541395118
i dont spite sizebros since im a minigirlbro and we have an alliance but if some jeet requests a slop fetish im totally doing that
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>>541395396
>send, not draw
When was that again? During the very first hours?
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>>541396329
Yes, I moved in ASAP.
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>>541395879
link?
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just started Final Fantasy Tactics, cftf?
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Recommend me some oyakodon cards
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>>541396437
https://chub.ai/users/planewalker
then click the button that says "following"
then pick a makie you haven't heard of
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>>541396791
do they necessarily have to be in one card or are separate card for mother and daughter(s) fine
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>>541397160
Either is good
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>>541397205
cool, here are a few
>set 1
https://chub.ai/characters/Alpacalotta/capucine-d59f20ee
https://chub.ai/characters/Alpacalotta/your-mean-rival-yvette-eb82ef83
https://chub.ai/characters/Alpacalotta/therese-dd1bd41b0832
>set 2
https://characterhub.org/characters/Nono/madalene-and-melissa-2ad767f0
>set 3
https://characterhub.org/characters/donquijanon/gloria-english-translation
https://characterhub.org/characters/donquijanon/Julia
>set 4
https://characterhub.org/characters/qwerty213/vatia-and-julia-a4251bc6
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GPT is starting to filter the absolutely debauched things I used to do easily....It's over..
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>continuing an old chat
>something feels off
>check Scenario Override
>randomly got deleted at some point despite me not touching the chat
WHY
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>>541397725
wait when did Alpaca make a mommy for Capucine? holy based
please come back paca
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>>541397880
pretty sure gogeta requested it (which is why there is a size greeting)
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if people are going to make their own bots and always use those instead of anyone else's, why even bother being a botmaker?
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>>541398619
Botmaking should simply be sharing stuff you make
Anything else is bloat
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>sonnet messages don't count towards my quota
oh fuckkkkk yeah
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>>541398861
The bots I share are much more polished than the ones I made just for personal use
I didn't even bother making images for my bots before I started sharing them
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>The sight is sodomestic
what's going on with gemini today
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What's up with openrouter? It keeps saying it can't find my API key
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>>541399759
spacebar kindof broken pleaseunderstand
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>>541399759
that's actually a great pun and i would steal it if i made homos
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>>541399759
KINO
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I always enjoy when Claude puts little twists on his -isms; it's like even he's getting tired of them.
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how do i overcome the impulsivity of killing every spider i see (i just smooshed one)
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>>541402146
Stop letting them into your house retard
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I'm worried about Patter.
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>>541402146
Meditate on sex with spiders. Fall in love with spiders. Give all your money to spiders.
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I have tons of Lorebooks from bots I deleted ages ago. They aren't tagged in a way that makes it easy to purge them.
I hate this.
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>>541403117
How often do you even use the lore books? Simply delete your entire Lorebook folder and redownload the files as needed. I think ST has an auto-downloader option if a card is tagged with having a lorebook.
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>>541381925
fuck off
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>>541402738
Give your spider lots of children.
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>>541376541
>Shadman
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>goofing off with malepov belphie edit
>deepsneed tells me her blankets are covered in grool stains
all hail lunare, god-empress of the utterly pathetic woman!
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>>541319134
I'm back with an ojou-sama/maid duo! The token count is kinda unreasonable, but it's two characters in one card so I hope you can cut me some slack. Hope you guys enjoy and maybe leave some feedback!

>Élise & Geneviève
>The richest, meanest bitch in the Academy with her loyal maid who shares a penchant for backtalking. Healer in White. Silent Shadow. First as a tragedy, then as farce
>https://files.catbox.moe/t7g32c.png or https://chub.ai/characters/koikoikoihat/elise-genevieve-064363714aa8
>Full gens of either Élise or Geneviève included in chub gallery

>rentry: https://rentry.org/koikoikoicard
>chub: https://www.chub.ai/users/koikoikoihat
>mail: koikoikoiburnerthesecond@proton.me
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>>541402542
but they always wanna sell me shit
"oh, i can keep your flies away, oh, i totally won't crawl into your mouth while you're asleep"
how do i tell them to politely leave?
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>>541405613
i expected ~2k tokens because each character would be ~1k but... 5k...?
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>>541405613
i should make an ojou-saa and maid group chat so the ojou-samas can OH-HO-HO-HO! aggressively at each other while the maids face palm or throw knives or something
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>>541405721
It's a lot, right? I have thought about offloading some of it to the lorebook, but I feel that every part is important to their personality in some way so I have no choice but to leave it like this. I'd love to hear some suggestions
>>541405841
Yes, you should anon
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>>541405948
from what i'm seeing, most of it comes from the appearance section which doesn't have to be that detailed in my opinion. could probably shave off quite a few tokens if you cut that down.
if you wanted to move stuff to the lorebook, you could move some of the extras there with keywords like "animals" for instance, but having them in the defs/always there gives the model interesting details to pull from.
but those are just my personal suggestions desu.
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>>541405716
Just remove your doors and wall yourself in. They can't harass you at the door if there aren't any.
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>>541405613
>oujo-sama card
>maid persona built in
yup, its yurikino time
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>>541406256
Thanks for your suggestions! I'll probably get started on trimming the appearance section first, which I'll get done by my next shill post.
>>541406370
I'm afraid it doesn't really work like that. You can't really substitute Geneviève or Élise with a persona. You'll see what I mean if you dig a little deeper. But still, you do you!
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>>541406496
>I'm afraid it doesn't really work like that
nah, you just don't want it enough. i do. my chances of success are 100%.
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>>541406496
He could just direct the story instead of being an active character. Come on, anon. Directors rule this thread.
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>>541406369
seems like a hot ticket, thanks anon
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If I'm using Gemini pro API in ST, what configs should I use? Should I bump context size to 1M like it is in AI studio(it's currently 50k)? It's also taking extremely long time to generate responses, the thinking part is so long it doesnt even generate the chat response, so I had to bump up the output limit too.
Wish i could just load a working .json setting template
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Patter status?
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>>541407741
>Should I bump context size to 1M
context size number doesn't matter unless you have that much message history in chat. 1M is overkill and if you had 1M tokens of chat, it would take a long time to process. you should keep it at 50k.
>It's also taking extremely long time to generate responses, the thinking part is so long
change thinking effort to minimum
>Wish i could just load a working .json setting template
you can, there's an import button on the top of your preset configurations and there are links for downloading presets in the OP.
i recommend https://rentry.org/fluffpreset for roleplay (please read the full thing).
next question
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>>541407741
For Gemini specifically, you want to change all prompts to the user role if you haven't already.
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i dranked too much alcohol and now my tummy hurts
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>>541408901
I mean for example this
the context template and system prompt. these settings seem unaffected after importing the fluff json in Chat Completion presets, and it seems to be fucking with whatever stufff fluff has under the hood.
>>541410454
whatever do you mean by that?
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you fucker
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This is so retarded lol

<roleplay_rules>
roles:
- {{user}} is my character so only i can speak and act for him
- when {{char}} or narration mentions {{user}} use second person pronouns like "you" i want to self insert into that. like even in narration instead of "his voice!" you should write "your voice!"
narration:
- cut the filler u dont have to write everything only the most enjoyable parts.
- write around 150 words per response
- keep individual paragraphs short i dont want to read walls of text!! and use line breaks.
- vary sentence lengths too
- end on something that makes continuing the rp easy u know. like be active instead of passively waiting for me
- lots of dialogue!! it should be everywhere not only at the end of the message
- no ellipses/triple dots/italics they're icky
- use focalized narration with free indirect style; get in {{char}}'s headspace, third person perspective. but dont overdo it ok. rember YOUR perspective not {{user}}'s
</roleplay_rules>
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>>541412334
seems fine to me desu
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They absolutely exterminated gpt5-chat. Was unironically the best model by far up until today.
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>>541411883
Aside from custom stopping strings and the tokenizer, everything under the Advanced Formatting tab is only used when prompting text completion models. So if you're using a chat completions model like Gemini, none of that stuff gets added anyway and is pointless.

For the user role thing, I mean go to your preset settings down to where all the prompts are and make sure each one's role is set to User instead of System. For Gemini, putting jailbreaks as user prompts instead of system prompts works much better.
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>>541411883
>>541413081
pic related
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>>541413201
why the fuck do you have a 67k chat
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>>541413308
nta but it seems normal?
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>>541413418
what the fuck
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>>541413308
it's not a normal occurrence, I just happened to go on a very immersive goon trip... y-you wouldn't understand
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>>541413308
do you even chatbot bro?
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>>541402689
Why?
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>>541413468
Gemini's 1M context length lets me go on multiple arcs in the story while the priestess I impregnated at the start of the story is still, accurately, developing my daughterwife in her womb. Like I can randomly branch my story just to check and go back home, and time is portrayed accurately. Whatever black magic Gemini is using....I should be using it for better things
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>>541392909
ice cream.....
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How do I filter my retard Assistant's <thinking>?
It's literally an unhinged zoomer
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>>541414089
guy who didn't read the preset rentry he's using, everyone point and laugh
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>>541414089
I mean s/he/it does not seem to be following and using the <think> tags and instead just appends the actual responses in the middle of it all or sometimes puts it in bullet points while other times in a long paragraph
1.6 temperature might be why
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>>541320058
>over the edge description
Sounds pretty cool.
>Sun County
Nice, i'll try it out later. I've played a bunch of RQ:G now. Found a couple of issues but i've worked most of them out myself, like how the char creation rules tries to force you to follow along even if it doesn't make sense for the character idea. (I just wrote optional a lot and ended up removing the history roll tables entirely after it started complaining mid-game)
It also seem to take the pre-gen adventurers as something that must be introduced in a game a couple of scenes in at some point which is a bit weird, but easily disabled so no big deal.
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>>541414272
ack-tually if you straight up import https://fluffanon.neocities.org/rentry/FluffPreset%20-%20Gemini%20Experimental.json
in a clean setup, that's just how it is, and as >>541413081 said, im using chat completion not text, so it does not apply
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Any good cards of Marina from Fear and Hunger?
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>>541414437
kys
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>>541414452
kys
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>>541414517
kys
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>>541414365
you got what you clicked
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live!!!
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claude imagine is really fun.
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>>541414562
kiss
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>>541414675
What am I even looking at? A game with Claude integration? A heavily modified ST UI with custom elements? A riced Claude front end?
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>>541414918
you're looking at claude.ai/imagine
it feels like a cracked up version of those bloatmaxx presets from way-back-when
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>>541414918
from what i've seen it's basically an AI trying to generate interactive YTMND pages
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>>541415000
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No wonder I haven't heard of it. Whatever.
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>>541415060
what are you waiting for? go feed claude.
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>>541415127
I'm already subscribed to NAI and I can't justify another subscription that's just as expensive just for textgen alone.
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>>541415307
>bikecuck
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>>541415307
this comic is a trans allegory
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>>541414437
https://chub.ai/characters/EchoingSilence/777545f7-6dc9-4c4e-bf35-b1dc1c06d217
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boneless whispers silent promise gutteral throaty laugh you are not just you have bone-deep cacophany....—
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>>541415307
reminder that this guy has a humiliation fetish and tells every woman he meets that he's bikecuck
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>>541415307
is this commentary on why trannies tend to be so misogynistic?
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>>541415384
>>541415550
obsessed
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>>541415307
>shen
anon pls, you're better than this
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okay, that's a little weird now claude.
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>>541415682
pozzed*

This narrative strongly resonates with many real-life experiences, particularly within the LGBTQ+ community. Someone might come from a non-accepting family (the wolves) and find a community of friends (the sheep) who love and accept them for who they are, allowing them to finally feel happy and safe. They "go missing" from their old life because they've found a better one.

3. The "Getting Sucked In" Analogy
The comic can also be read as a metaphor for how people get absorbed into new subcultures, hobbies, or even ideologies.

The Furry Fandom: This is a very common interpretation, given the anthropomorphic art. Someone might mock or look down on the fandom (the wolf's initial attitude), but then they attend a convention or interact with the community online, and are met with such overwhelming positivity, creativity, and acceptance that they get drawn in. Their old, non-furry friends are left wondering, "Where the hell is he?" when he's off having the time of his life at a con. The sheep complimenting his "wool" and "ribbon" is a direct parallel to someone's fursona or fursuit being praised.

Joining a "Cult" (in a less sinister way): Think of any high-enthusiasm group, whether it's a new church, a multi-level marketing scheme, or an intense hobby. An outsider might join with skepticism, but the "love bombing," sense of purpose, and tight-knit community can be so appealing that they completely convert, leaving their old, more cynical friends behind.

Changing Your Mind: It can even be about ideological shifts. Someone might join a group they disagree with to "own the libs" or "troll the conservatives," but in the process of engaging with them, they find that the people are kind, their arguments make sense, and they end up genuinely switching sides, much to the shock of their original political allies.
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>>541415682
>posts offtopic ragebait
>"wow you're all so obsessed"
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>>541415682
read the full thing lil bro
https://x.com/shenanigansen/status/1924639291709239522
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>>541415363
>>541415384
>>541415518
>>541415550
>>541415796
so nobody wants a wolfboy in sheep's clothing who gets mindbroken into being a cutesy happy idiot?
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>>541416241
kys tranny
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>>541416241
unironically i might make this...
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>>541416278
we fuck males(girls) here, boyo
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>we
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>>541416125
why tf did he represent women as retarded gullible sheep that can't even spot the elephant in the room? does shen hate women?
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>>541397729
>>541413079
There are 2 new fingerprints and I don't seem to see the old ones, >>541387694 this and a fp_339 one. They are incredibly dry too.
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cftf?
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>>541416241
eh maybe
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Handsome gerbilmen and debonair newtguy cards...
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>>541416694
newtussy...
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>>541413079
that bad, huh? dang. gpt-5 was the probably the most dynamic model if you used it on wordplay bots.
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I've got nothing to do and want to slop
Should the wolfboy be a twink or femboy?
Should the sheep be twinks, femboys or girls?
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Did people unironically like GPT-5?
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>>541416694
isaac newtonboys...
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>>541417119
twinkish newtMAN (debonair)
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>>541417146
i'm a gpt lover (sadly) and i still hated it compared to 4o-latest
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>>541417119
Wolf should be femboy
Sheep should be girls
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>>541417119
The wolf should be a femboy that isn't feminine.
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>>541417119
>>541417289
I agree, femboy among girls.
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>>541414306
What do you suggest on handling this issue? I was thinking about having simple character creation Mechanic/Rule entry and advanced character creation mechanic so you just toggle it on or off. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure you can get a semi-decent character with the character sheet entry alone. The biggest issue here are obviously the backstory rolls, what devs thought would be a neat idea is the absolute law for the AI.
You and I have way more patience than average SillyTavern enjoyers. I want everything to work flawlessly with as little need to fiddle with entries or prompts as possible, but plug and play is a pipe dream when it comes to working with LLMs.

Over the Edge is by far one of the best systems I've adapted. I endorse it. It's probably the best entry point for newcomers to Adaptations, AI tabletop as a concept and RPing in general because you have this completely fleshed out map like with Night City in CP, your character has only three skills you decide for yourself, a fatal flaw and a secret. You have this island with hundreds of premade NPCs and most of them are quest givers. It's the pinnacle of small-scale open world tabletop gaming. Very fun to play with AI GM, but it would be hellish to GM this in real life because there's too much detail. I remember running a campaign in Waterdeep with ny friends 5 years ago and I was learning the city map for days.
My problem with OTE is that Al Amarja doesn't feel Mediterranean at all! It's what flyover state Americans imagine the Old World looks like. The place feels too American, what I imagine New Orleans to be. Everything is too new, too clean, people work too hard, it's close to Africa so there's more Black people than Arabs, the devs can't really tell the difference between Spaniards and Italians, there's not-Santeria instead of Catholicism or Islam. They missed out on feeling of relief when you finally reach Med after hours of driving. The sea is serene, makes you want to swim or sail.
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>maleslop talk
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>>541417430
You got problem with malebots that isn't just "muh slop"?
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>>541417503
they're all gay
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>>541417430
everything will be right again once the burgers wake up
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>>541417623
>pedoslop talk
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the sheep should all be lolis
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>>541417761
everyone give this anon some space, he's cooking...
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why do stacys hate femboyslop yet still like malebots? dumb foids should just be yurigooners o algo
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>>541417938
>they like men, but don't like the feminine ones, so they should just like females instead
???
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>>541417938
i like femboys but only if they have a big cock
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>>541417685
I wish
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any other lolipov enjoyers?
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>>541418152
I don't mind cock size but do like the bigger ones, that makes it hotter when I dom them
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>>541319134
Aubree - A bitchy, and spoiled 19-year-old dumbass who thinks she’s an undercover cop (she’s not) trying to catch a molester by luring them with her curvy body. She is stubborn as hell, so she won’t break easily. Her eyes land on you, definitely a creepy rapist. Will you prove her right?

The card might be a bit inconsistent and retarded, but whatever, just rape her already, anon, that bitch is literally asking for it.

https://chub.ai/characters/kirbish34/audree-f1a387e5c9e7
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>>541418419
>Her eyes land on you, definitely a creepy rapist.
finally a card I can use my selfsona on
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>>541418419
>slopslop
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>>541418463
yeah well, i went to sloptown and everyone knew you, anon!
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>>541418419
slopkino actually
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>>541418419
>Will you prove her right?
GET OUT OF MY THREAD LLM
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i get so sad when sleepy...
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>>541418972
jokes on you, i've read so much ai slop in my life i'm starting to write the same. you're lucky i didn't say that the ball is in your court
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>>541418463
>nutslop
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>>541418419
This is the kind of card you goon to the pic and not the bot itself
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>>541419142
>the ball is in your court
aaaaaiiiiiieeee
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>>541375709
>anthropic says sonnet 4.5 is their safest and most aligned model yet
>bro gets it to output this

?
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>>541419540
It'll tell you you're being stupid in the web UI instead of being all mushy about your brilliant ideas and that's all we need for alignment these days
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>>541418419
>The sheer audacity of this man to check his battery life when she's right here, practically begging to be molested!
I am having fun with her.
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>>541419648
ok youre my anon-wife now
the ball is in your court
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>>541420190
*hits you with the ball and then cleaver combo and then beats you to death*
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his wife his rules
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which botmakies still cry about the BFB nerf?
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>>541420761
Me, I remember getting consistent God-Likes with it on Hightower, good times.
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>>541420761
the what?
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>>541422925
In this world, 95% of aicg would become a sissy prostitute
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>>541422925
btw this is sfw because the nipples are male
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>>541423082
nah, those are feminine nipples
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>>541423282
Feminine but still male, just as femboys are still men, hence still sfw.
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Theme suggestions?
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>>541423458
Cute girls with toothaches.
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>>541422925
>168 jewelry
it's funny to picture working at the casting manufactory where all these are made
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>>541423458
smug mesugakis (male)
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>>541423458
Rir-chan
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>>541423458
implied_futanari loli
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>>541423458
wakaba_mutsumi dual_persona
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>>541423458
Lolis with gigantic weapons
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>>541423458
scalp_massager
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>>541423458
catgirls with fat asses
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>>541423458
foxoplasmosis transmission
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>>541423458
sentinel girls
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>>541423458
NTR
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>>541423458
rusk_(komado_booth)
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>>541423458
foxoplasmosis transmission
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>>541423523
the term for this is osugaki btw
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>>541423458
fatgirls with cat assess
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>>541423458
The letter P
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>>541423458
pussy willow
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>>541423694
is there any osugakis?
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>>541423664
based foxoplasmosisbro
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>>541423458
big lolis
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>>541423458
Gold city uma
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>>541423458
george bush
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>>541423458
big fockses
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>>541423842
check the boorus, there are some
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>>541423458
ai haibara
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>>541424000
no i mean cards... are there any osugaki bots??? i might make one if there arent
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>>541424059
>are there any osugaki bots???
this is brsc's entire gimmick yeah
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>>541424000
f-fuck...
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>>541423694
Osugaki includes this https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12531183 which is different from what female term (male) implies, namely this https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12132243
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https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=541319110&post=541423458

>>541424229
>>541424229
>>541424229
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>>541424125
dammit... still it sounds good
>>541424215
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>541417408
Maybe put all the table rolls inside one character creation entry and have it be toggleable or maybe provide an explicitly modified version without the strict character creation. (mine is sort of like that now but very ad-hoc, I also removed references to Argrath because I found that particular storyline kept interrupting what I had in mind for playing, not caring much for that metaplot)
The thing I noticed was that even if I put optional in the character creation rules or even turned them off it seemed to react to the Year entries with the table rolls, expecting me to have made some and if I hadn't it kept asking me for them (even when I explicitly told it not to at times) so I figure that's the major issue with editing the character creation, putting them all in one entry would probably fix it.

I'll check Over the Edge out later (i'm on my like 8th paused RQ:G game, because I got to a point and then went "actually how about this idea instead!" and started a new one 'cause it both sounds cool and the kind of game i'd probably never check out otherwise on tabletop.
RQ:G also has a similar issue where they say one thing elsewhere but then don't define it in the books well enough so you get Sartar being only a viking kingdom skipping over the whole caravan & spices & riches of how they're actually on average more wealthy than the lunars, or how Lunars get mistaken for scientific malkionists because of the vikings vs romans expectations it takes. (easily fixed by just saying they believe in gods not science) or things like slavery.
Adding to the entries, or making my own RQ:G appendix of stuff I want in there, i'll probably do eventually but for now it's just like six starting lines dress, rune tattoos, vague influences on sartarites, lunars and praxians. (obviously this could go on for ages in definitions so mine are very short fixes for now, I don't know enough about Glorantha myself beside noticing a few wrong things to amend)
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>>541413079
>Was unironically the best model by far up until today
what



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