Culinary editionStore links:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1030300/Hollow_Knight_Silksonghttps://store.steampowered.com/app/367520/Hollow_KnightInteractive Map:https://mapgenie.io/hollow-knight-silksong/maps/pharloomGame Save Analyzer / Tacker:https://silksong-completionist.com/Previous Thread >>541171750
git gud
>>541352282I've said it before, SS is not a "git gud" game since it hinders you from playing more or practicing. It's a "be gud or giv up" game. If you're already really good at it, then you'll probably have fun since you likely wont have to redo runbacks and stuff.
>>541354476Bruh, it's literally the first ever Metroidvania I've played to completion, I didn't finish any souls game except for ER and Sekiro, I'm not great at them in general, I lost to LL like 50 times and I still think SS is the best game I've played in the last half-decade, easily.
I dropped dark souls after dying to the very first enemy rat I met.
>>541354760I'm at LL right now, and it looks like it'll also be one of the first and only I play to completion so far (I played HK1, but only got like halfway or so.) I'm also not good, and I stand by what I said.
>>541353687we KILL chefs.
I think i hard locked myself. I entered underworks trying to find the double jump ability and found claw light. Now i cant get out. Dying takes me to this same room. The only thing i can think of is maybe dying near the second bug so i can pogo off of my cocoon. What the fuck kind of design choise is this
>>541354476well put
any bets on when panties will come? i bet in 2027 after a bunch of hidden dreams-esque updates.
>>541355002cute hornet. source?
>>541356459are you sure there is not some platform or clawline out of screen that you missed? underworks is built to be done without double jump iirc, I mean, you need clawline to get 2blejump
>>541357041ive searched the place 3 times. How did you anons get out of the clawline room
>>541356459I got clawline before getting double jump. In fact, for a normal player, you need clawline to get double jump.Note that you can clawline into the bugs, and that will auto pogo you.
>>541356459>I think i hard locked myselfno such thingwell there is one way it can be done, but not in that areakeep looking
>>541357289>>541357207>>541357041scratch that im an idiot. Its just a gamemechanic i wasnt aware of. If you clawline on an enemy you automatically pogo off of them enabling me to reach the platform.
Gimme the funniest videos of scrubs getting mad at silksong
>>541356459Don't press anything after you hook an enemy, the clawline will knock you up high enough for the next shot. Only once you're at your apex should you start floating, otherwise you stop yourself too low.
>>541357446search dsp for crying at the game or anderson joseph for someone taking it with humor
>>541357414congratsnow read the following sentence and really burn it into your brain: clawline is a very useful weapon in combat too
>>541357414If you don't adsorb what >>541357912 says, then consider this your first sin.
>>541358263absorb*
>>541357912It's OK for mobs but I'd rather save the silk for other things against bosses.
>>541357141Top right. If I am not mistaken there are 2 flies to harpoon.
I went back and played some HK, and while fun, Silksong's combat is far better. HK's enemies and combat feel really basic in comparison.
>6 million copies sold/v/irgin doomposters in shambles
>>541359875You sure? That sounds like an awful lot.
>>541359353>I'd rather save the silkYou recover the silk when you hit an enemy
>>541359814Yeah thats what I'm dreading on a replay. Most of the enemies in HK are just not that interesting to engage with. There is not a single HK mob I can think of as fun as the spear Skarr or that fucker with the scissors. And Hornet's incredibly fluid movement options makes up for the knight's iframe options and spell damage imo. And the healing system is so much more engaging and keeps you in the battle, and lets them design enemies with faster attacks to compensate. It feels like they really fleshed out the combat.
>>541360124Well its more than 6 million by now
how sad is it that the only boss i beat 1st try was fourth chorus
>>541360575You got Moss Mothered? Oh no...
>>541360718don't remember the first one but I did die a couple times to the double one
>>541360543Gonna need some proof, because I think it's more like 200k tops.
it's crazy how much easier HK1 is. Just getting the wings in hk2 alone beats almost anything in hk1, standard mode
>>541360575Crust Khan and the ant hunter guy. I think that's it for me.Maybe first Drillflies, don't really remember.
>>541361248It had over 400k players day one on steam alone.
>>541357673> anderson joseph> ARI, ARI WAKE UP.
>>541359875
So I cant get 10 masks before I kill karmelita?
>>541358263>first sin.heh.
>>541363186Nope, unfortunately she's required to die if you want full completion.
I assume the sprint guy race doesn't allow the silkspeed anklets right
>>541363186You can. I didn't beat her, and I have 100% completion.
>>541363812Pretty sure all tools are disabled, including weavelight.
>>541363902Oh wellTime to quickspam jump+dash, makes you go faster than the normal sprint
>>541364027From what I remember, it wasn't that hard.Remember you can clawline to pogo and note that you can hit him with clawline which slows him down iirc.You can also dash downwards.
>>541364235The difficulty increase between the 2nd race and the 3rd is massive lol
>>541363186You can
There is SO MUCH annoying unfun trash I'm going to skip via mods in my 2nd playthrough holy shit
>>541364724It shouldn't be too hard if you're using clawline well. This was my race path if it helps: https://files.catbox.moe/tu5sha.mp4
>>541365987It's ok I just beat himNot really the fastest racer if you have to use tools to slow down your opponent but whatever
>>541366253He deserves it for being a flying bitch. Should stay down on the ground like a real bug.
>>541366253'Grats.>Not really the fastest racer ifYeah, he's definitely faster than Hornet if it's a normal flat foot race. He should hold his head up proudly on that.
So how do I get the hidden hunter quest to appear on the board
>>541366916Find Gilly I think four times and then talk to Karmelita.
Does the void catastrophe threaten only Pharloom or would it destroy the whole world
>>541366916>>541367004I found Gilly twice, I think, then it appeared. Check the map in the OP for locations.
>>541367004>>541367768I can't remember how many times I've found her but I just saw her recently in the area before the race track and the way she talked implied it wasn't the first time, however I'm now in Bellhart and the quest isn't thereI did just get and complete the Hero's Call one tho :(
>>541367756Probably only where GMS' silk reaches.Now I wonder what the mist is like in Act 3. The Mist is there due to her silk being blown into the air by Phantom's organing. During Act 3, do the wraiths become voided? Are they black now? Is the entire Mist black now? How anyone seen The Mist in Act 3?
Pretty sure that's the next one I'm missingTime to take a trip
>>541368120>How anyone seen The Mist in Act 3?Has* anyoneHonestly curious. This can't be down if you defeat Phantom, so I assume a lot of people may have missed it. That also raises the question if Phatom, a silk being become a void entity in Act 3 (I heard the Fire Brothers became void in Act 3, for example, so I know bosses might become void). Is it possible there's a Lost Phantom no one knows about?
>>541368469If there is a Lost Phantom, beating her should give an upgraded or void version of cross stitch.
>>541366446He isn't. You will overtake him running in straight line.
>>541368130Man the quest still ain't showing upSo I guess this must be correct
I honestly don't see why people glaze rune rage so much, it has such a long windup time and the pattern is completely random.
>try speedrun>constantly getting lost>45 min in and I don't even have dash yet>die to ants
>>541369258nvm all I had to do was talk to ol' karmela
>>541370093>>541367004
Just so I don't waste my time on nothing here since it would be quite a lengthy post, would anyone want to hear a theory I made during the last thread? It's just about some basic trash mobs though.
Oh shit I am so healthy right nowNow to find those stupid fleas so I can max out me needle
>>541370527Yeah why not
>>541370527Sure. I'll consider looking at it if you post.
>>541370527Sure
>>541370534'Grats.With how dark this image looks, and with people huddled and broken looking in the surroundings, it's like a demon was summoned in the center, or they're sacrificing Hornet. Or both.
>>541370534>Now to find those stupid fleasIn P.Ducts you can find a special flea that tells you the location of all the fleas you're missing. She charges, but if you're smart, you'll see her product listings technically tell you the area you're missing fleas, so combined with the interactive map, you can probably get an idea of the fleas you're missing for no charge.
>>541371798Get a load of this rosary-grubber.
I got to the lost lace ending where the hollow knight shows up in the void but it's been years since I finished Hollow Knight so can someone explain what is happening and how it relates to the original game's endings?
>>541372281It confirms that Silksong is a sequel. In the true ending (and/or the Godhome ending, the Knight/ghost returns back to the void after defeating the Radiance (in the Godhome ending he becomes the new Shade Lord)
>>541309741It was about the Dream World being split into Nightname World and normal Dream World, not about Radiance being split.
>>541372281>hollow knight shows up in the voidit wasn't hollow knight, it was the knight.
>>541370669>>541371359>>541371372 Ok so basically, this boils down to how the fuck are there furms in both bellheart and in Sands of Karak. The answer lies in what I believe to be a basal species in the form of the bone scuttlers. They are the dominant live form in the marrow, so it wouldn't be too weird to think they'd migrate to some neighboring regions, which would result in the furms. One thing that supports this things is the fertids in far fields, who are similar to the other three, being ambush predators, having a relative with wings in the flapping ones and mimicking it's enviroment. Now I believe that Bellheart may have originally been part of the Karak kingdom, so the coral furm would be older than the bell one, since it doesn't have wings as developed, nor can it borrow as well the other one. Now I believe when the Citadel took the area and made Bellheart they either: tolerated the furms considering the overall tolerance they have for Shellwood, or they tried to kill them but fail. Either way the furm now has no means to ambush prey anymore since it lives in the bells, so it starts using them. After adapting to the area enough that they can sucesfully hunt, I suspect that's when the large ones started appearing, this enormous size is quite similar to that of the Bone Tyrant's, which seem to be grown up skull brutes which are themselves larger skull scuttlers.Sorry if this was dissapointing.
>>541373684Oh my god I can't believe Hornetto was saved by John Ghost Modern Warfare...
>>541373827>since it doesn't have wings as developedWhat about Skullwings? They have wings
>>541314518I'm back. I finally beat LL and the game. I was being salty I did have fun in act 3. It was only the finals hours of backtracking for completion and the flea challenges that were kind of boring. Turns out all I needed to beat LL was swapping Reaper for Wanderer Crest
I want to off Markoth wild ride
fucking game is literally more than 2x the size of HK, I'm scared of how gargantuan HK3 is gonna be
>>541373827>Sorry if this was dissapointing.I forgive you.Honestly, I think it's cool how deep into this you've dug. I can't say I hold the same belief, but I believe I can see your passion none the less.
I can't believe this little dick won't even try to help me.
>>541375018>Turns out all I needed to beat LL was swapping Reaper for Wanderer CrestIt was the opposite for me, I swapped Wanderer to another Crest, then instantly won. Crest-swapping is very underrated feature, many just use a single Crest.
>>541375018>Before beating X>"This sucks">After better X>"You know, this wasn't so bad"Classic.'Grats none the less. I've still yet to beat her, but I'm taking a break rn anyway.
>>541375018>Turns out all I needed to beat LL was swapping Reaper for Wanderer CrestFunny. For me turns out all I needed to beat LL was switching from Reaper to Hunter
>>541376552yep
>>541373827It could also be that winged furms don't appear in Karak because there's already a creature with wings that fills that niche, any furms that grow too big and expose their bellies by flying are easy prey for conchflies
>>541376438I used Reaper exclusively until the end of act 2, then I started switching between reaper for platforming and architect for combat cause I'm a toolfag
>>541376438i honestly suggest crest swapping over sticking with one crest. It's fine to have a "main" crest but a lot of crests can fill different niches and it's fun to mix up your playstyle
>>541374556I did forget about those. Also I'm going to be honest here, I don't know where I thought the coral guys have wings since they are covered by their shells, but maybe they have and they are something more basal. Also kind of funny how both furms have fur despite not living in cold weather, maybe it's for sensory reasons?
>>541376167Honestly, this was just born of me being curious as to how there is furms in such distant places between each other, then I started to notice a few similarities to the skull and grass guys. I'm surprised it got this large.
>>541377131>>541373827"Furm" could just be a derivative from the word "fur" and maybe they just use it to describe furry bugs. Like "spotted" or "striped" for irl animals.A zebra and a tiger both have stripes, but that doesn't mean they are related.
>>541376670They are already easy prey for the conchflies, but being on the ground does protect them from the other two main predators of the sands.
>>541377815I realized that part of their names halfway through writing why they have hair. That was pretty dumb on my part, but I still think they are related
Bros, do you think I need to make his neck longer? It looks kinda fucking long in some of his sprites
>>541378515Yeah, like maybe 50% longer.
Lace and Phantom were sisters huh?
>>541378858Yes
>>541378858I really like how intense and out of place Hornet looks in all the silk memory things, it's like she's going "enough with your weeping, ghosts, heed me shred this solo"
Has anyone ever actually broken this thing?
>>541377824If they huddle in like a turtle they should be able to protect themselves from conchflies firing things at them, no? Assuming their shell would work like a shell
>>541379273The conchfly can burrow though though rock. So it doesn't work against it. Against the other predators in the sands, it is quite the effective strategy since none can burrow as well as the conchfly.
>>541379227Bro the moment I realized it was a consumable I got legit terrified I'll accidentally break it one day while going through the inventory for the banked rosaries
>>541379227It drives me insane how you can't put this in your house
>>541376670From a meta level, there's also no need for another flying enemy in that zone, and a boss fight with a large one would either be a reskin of great conchflies or skull tyrant.
>>541379728Certainly would have been nice, instead of all those stupid mementos that kinda all look alike anyway.
What Hollow Knight boss is this?
Is she a reliable tool?
>>541382167ShAw
>>541383293That looks pretty good. Fits in nicely with the existing UI.
>>541377131To be fair, both flying and non-flying Shellwood Gnats have wings, and they can fly when outer shell is broken. Also interesting that they're green, so it's possible that Furms and Skull Scuttlers are not black.
>couldn't beat boss so I used cheat engine>beat the boss but felt like a faggot>download save file so I can repeat the boss>beat it 2nd try>still feel like a faggotdon't cheat.
>>541379273You're confusing Driznit/Driznarga and a Conchfly. One shoots their drill-mask, other drill from the earth themselves.
>>541379728>>541380767This
Leisurely taunt Lace until she ragequit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5oHjHDRJuQ
>>541386876Cool, I just know I'd never have the patience to do this. It's also crazy how slow and easy Lace 1 looks after fighting Lost Lace.
For a good while i thought that putrified ducts had the shittiest enemy but now that I am exploring verdania I changed my mind, no wonder they decided to raze the entire thing.
>>541388259>heh, nothin personnel
>>541388097I almost died in my Steel Soul run to Lace 1 because it was so incredibly slow after LL that it threw off my pattern recognition and I kept reacting too early.
>>541389221sounds like me getting my ass kicked by base grimm after getting used to the timings of nightmare king grimm
>>541388259It also has the shittiest boss in the game
>>541388259t. the Citadel
>>541389626This is a recycled dream warrior
>>541389597Video games are fun like that. Never would have thought myself capable of beating NKG at the start but your brain just adapts and it becomes a wonderful dance that you completely keep up with. I'm so excited about the potential Silksong DLC bosses.
>>541389626The Lifeblood guy is worse desu
>>541391521I never even considered him a boss, just a source of free lifeblood for the quest.
>>541391594I mean he has a boss card, he just lacks music.
>>541391521What about Watcher at the Edge? Tons of HP, repetitive attacks, no phases.
>>541392318At least that shit has a back and forth you engage with. I dont love it but it doesnt put me to sleep. The worst part is the runback.
>>541392385>The worst part is the runback.I just used Blasted Steps' bellway station bench. Much easier runback, as long as you opened a shortcut.
The way hidden areas are handled is so fucking retarded. That one spot in the Weavernest of Wormways looks exactly like most other points where you can silk soar, yet you simply can't. Meanwhile other walls with no visual indication whatsoever hide hours of gameplay.
>>541392385And he has the cool interaction with knocking him into the sand worms at the edgeHe's a neat boss, not super complicated, but neat
>>541385185>>541379472huh, I guess I just assumed they were the same, neat
Oh there's flowers that grow Silk, that explains how Silk got into the animal population of PharloomGood old food chain carrying toxins straight up the ladder
Nightmare King Grimm and Skarsinger Karmelita both have the same health values (1500). Hornet's needle and Knight's nail also do the same damage for each comparative upgrade.>>541394729If you hit everything, you'll find a good 90% of them.
WHY WON'T THESE FUCKING SLAVES JUST LEAVE ME ALONE?
>>541396395God I love this vampirebug so much
>>541306084Seconding this. I know about spots for a mask fragment, mr. mushroom quest, main quest, etc. But there are many spots without unified guide for them, I have to gather them separately like grains of sands. Styx's lair is one example of this.
I’m retarded. I just realized the yellow fleas from the flea minigame are fast because of flea brew
>>541397365Lugioli’s place has one.
>>541379227This should’ve been one of the mementos.
She is so cute with her hair let down
>>541396960he's literally me
>>541402359You think Hornet will get hormonal and go all wyrm on us and make a kingdom?The mask maker says its just a matter of time.
>>541402745She probably wont imo outside of the act2 ending
>>541397365Whiteward in the elevator room, at the shaft right before the entrance to the room with Morticians.
>>541403903It's very spooky
Watch a vtuber play silksong>skips everything>tries to gfe every 5 minutes>doesn't pay attention to the dialogue>misses a bunch of shit>has like 20 missions open>complainsNvm, let's watch a ""gamer"" vtuber>doesn't pay attention to the dialogues>tries to be funny every 5 minutes>misses a bunch of shit>has like 20 missions open>Is passive agressive all the time about the game difficultyWhy do people watch these normies??
>>541383293Ubisoft wants to know your location.
>>541406678You tell us.
>>541353687Yuri gameYuri generalLesbian communityFeminist devs
>watching someone else play gamesYoutubecucks...
>>541407250>>541406678Learn japanese and watch JP vtubers, +90% of them are very respectful towards the games they play.
>>541407250Hornets needle is so much bigger
>>541407172I wanted to understand why were people complaining that the game was hard and then I saw a vast majority not even listen to basic advice, make fun of dialogue, ignore missions, etc. I saw one guy not return once to songclave after ringing the bell, and still took 15 hours for the first ending.>>541407360Recommend some.
>>541407527look up for Shiragami FUBUKI (hololive) Hollow Knight play through, it's fantastic and complete; there are several translated clips online. We all are currently waiting on her Silksong dive. She liked HK so much she bought all kinds of plushies. In this same vein, DO NOT look Towa's one as she didn't like the game and took it like a whatever thing to do. She dropped it at some point. DO NOT look for any Hololive english vtuber, they all are generic trash.
Friendly reminder that "Higher Beings" simply refer to regular bug-people, at least in these plaques that are scattered around Hallownest. Maybe Team Cherry did a later retcon (ie either forgot or wanted higher beings to mean something else), but again, these plaques tell a different story in the usage of the term.
>>541376438I used only hunter for the entire game, including platforming to nameless town, abyss escape, and flea bounce
>>541373071The herald quest confirmed it's a sequel as well. Hornet is clear about saying she interacted with him before.
Do i have no choice but to touch the water to for the runback
>>541409128You can avoid it or just get the tool that makes you immune
>>541361285Wait until nameless town ascent. That platforming is dog shit
>>541409128The section I have circled is the only bit where you have to be concerned about touching the water. If you clawline then double jump when you reach the end of the clawline you'll avoid it. You don't need to jump prior to the clawline, just stand at the water's edge and release it.
>>541409128No, drop and immediately use the claw, then double jump to the wall.
Does Eva have to stay in the tank as a silhouette forever because Team Cherry couldn't think of a good design for a half-spider and half-slug girl?
>>541409327Frankly there's nothing in the base game that's anywhere near Path of Pain yet the devs faced a dilemma knowing that a significant proportion of SS players will have completed the Path of Pain and would be hoping for some of that type of platforming in Silksong.To be honest what we got: Mt Fay with time pressure, Far Fields mask shard ascent, Abyss Ascent, Nameless Town, all strike a happy medium between regular platform and stuff that poses a slight challenge.But I am owed a Silksong: Path of Pain DLC. Nameless Town ascent cannot lay claim to being it, that was nowhere near the same level.
>>541409875>foreverplay more.
So the first 2 Delivery is just a repeatable for rosaries if you're fast and good at avoiding enemies?
>>541379728On that note, why can I put the Green Prince's still beating heart up on the wall instead of using all four to fuel the big spell and keeping the three shamans alive?
Green Prince should be the next Hollow Knight franchise protagonist.
>>541410237In principle. In practice they're too boring to be used to farm rosaries. I'd rather wipe out the Grand Reeds with Thief's Mark equipped. >>541410324I'd prefer they not go down the prequel route. I can understand the temptation, when it means they can ignore everything that transpired in the previous 2 games, but I don't want that.
>>541410103I know Hornet eats her for a powerup on request, but changing from a spider tank with a vague silhouette to a broken spider tank doesn't quite match what I was talking.
Do you think there's some logistic reason why they prevent access to the top of The Slab from the peak of Mt Fay? Like there was some too obvious game-breaking skip potential there for players who somehow managed to escape the Slab up and out (naked or otherwise).
>>541409909Honestly I'd rather do path of pain than the ascents in silk song. Pogoing on saw blades and changing the order of dash and jump is far more intuitive to me than some of these sequences >Hold onto ledge>Jump, hold forward, fall>Clawline, double jump, change directions, dash (or hope spacing is good)Is it easier than path of pain? Yes. But it's such an unnatural sequence of maneuvers that it frustrated me more than path of pain. The latter felt like it tested my skill. Silksong feels like it tests my buttons per second.
>>541410324He's too cool. We need someone of middling coolness. Preferably someone with timing-centric heavy attacks and parry based gameplay to bring something new to the table
>>541411139Herald sequel.
>>541411139BUT ENOUGH ABOUT SETH!
>just beat Widow Holy fucking kino
When you fall out of bounds in the mists do you start all over?
Any compelling theory about this guy? His secret room is just weird, he is dead in steel mode, he has the mask of the lady who is suspiciously similar to him. What is this guy?
>>541411391Yes. Amount of rooms you need to do before getting past it is rng.
>>541411391Yes, do you want to know how to pass through? It's a very nonsensical puzzle
>>541411449Hit the wall next to him, you can find his killer there. He's the same species but just upside down. He buys silkeaters since they're useless in steel soul mode.
>>541411449>He hasn't found it yetNo one spoil it
should I go do mushroom quest before jumping into what I assume is the final stretch? does it result ina different ending or just add something onto the end of the normal ending
>>541411675Is an ending for autistic morons who can't accept he is a joke character that adds nothing to the story
>>541411059It's always gonna look different with a different set of skills though. I think that's the main difficulty of designing hard platform sections for Hornet as well since her movement has so much more depth than the Knight's. What I'd have liked to have seen is more antagonistic design that punishes shit like being unable to go straight into a cloak hover once you've got the double jump because pressing B forces a double jump before you can float. I remember redoing a platforming path in Far Fields after I got the cloak and suddenly it was much harder, almost impossible, because of roof spikes that I kept accidentally jumping into.
>>541411359Why did you kill the only alive weaver of Pharloom? Are you stupid?
>>541411675finish the mushroom path anonit adds extra cutscene after endingcradle climb is FUN
>>541397365Check the interactive map...
>>541409327Interestingly, the hardest platforming parts in SS barely have any pogoing compared to HK. It's all about wallcling and clawlining.
>>541412347Can't do precise pogo sections because everyone's pogo is different. Compare wanderer crest to beast crest if you want. Can't hit the same targets. This restricts building puzzles
I'm such a toolfag scrub I genuinely don't think I could have beaten the game without tacks and cogflies
>>541384605That is a good point, though we do see the larger furms are black, and so is the Skull Tyrant. Though they may be related I suppose
>>541412584Meanwhile I beat the game with the only tool I didn't gather as the cogfly. Used only hunter crest
>>541411449Some say he's related to the Huntress some how, due to their similarities, and his dialog.
>>541411759He does do a bit of tying into themes with his talks with Hornet at least.
Cogflies should not exist. Prove me wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nyjPmRpqhggoty lads
>>541411842Racism
>>541373827I just found a detail about the Fertid that does seem to imply more of a connection to the bone guys, their needolin dialogue has this line: "between bone we sprout". Which is similar to the bone scuttlers probably also being born this way, and it also means they reproduce in the marrow, or on corpses.
>>541411449I've not read a theory that really convinces me yet.As much as can be said is that Styx appears to be a bug who can change masks. Beyond that, it's hard to tell whether the things he says are actually his own personality or whether he's pretending to be that way while wearing that particular mask or whether wearing that mask actually imparts that personality upon him.To add confusion, in Steel Soul runs, Styx himself is dead and you can see a corpse that looks like his, laying in his room (no mask visible). Then there's a secret room to the right that contains a Steel Soul only NPC called Skynx who is wearing Styx' mask upside down and buys Silkeaters off the player. The only theory I've read about Skynx is that he's a Nosk-type creature as it's not clear that Skynx is 'thinking' as much as it is mimicking things it has heard other bugs say. Sometimes it will say shit like "Save me", sounding like Styx.Coming back to Styx, I don't really buy him being a Nosk-like bug though since he seems notably more sentient and wears masks the right way up. Although it seems like a big coincidence that a bug who can change masks should be killed by another creature who also wears the masks of other bugs (but upside down).
Bilewater can get nuked and shat on by the gods for all eternity but I don't agree with all the hatred for Groal and his runbackThe fight is easier than most big bosses and the runback is really just a straight line and like five seconds of simple pogoing
>>541414649letting him eat you trivializes the fight because you can just spam attack on him inside of himthere is also the voltvessel skip in petrified ducts
>>541414649>the runback is really just a straight line and like five seconds of simple pogoing
>>541415240It's simple yes, but slower than other runbacks. Then again I only had to make that runback once.
>>541415240top is a straight line, right is simple pogoing and bottom is just a climb down/up, not even worth mentioning
>>541415240And that's for the people that found the bench.
>>541415240There's literally no way you can get lost unless it's your first time doing it or you're mentally challenged
>>541415240Only room on the right is somewhat cancerous, everything else is absolutely nothing.
You only have to pogo like 3 times
>>541414649I respect your opinion however I will submit my case for Groal being annoying:>(1) The runback:You cannot turn your brain off for it. Without the wreath, you need to be mindful of the water especially at the bit where you need to duck under and up to avoid it. There are RNG elements in pretty much every room along the way: Stilkin can appear in the first room after the bench... but might not. The green flies in the pogo room generate at different locations so you're not performing the same jumps each runback. In the last room before Groal himself there are RNG Stilkins AND glowflies so again you can't just turn your brain off.>(2) The GauntletA particularly annoying gauntlet because the enemies spend so much time under water where you're just waiting for them to appear. In other gauntlets you can clear quickly based on skill level and aggression. Here you are obliged to wait for Stilkin and Trappers to jump out the water. Not just once but in multiple waves. If that wasn't enough, you need to wait for a giant spike ball to come and go. Then when you're done you can wait for another 2 giant spike balls to slowly traverse the arena for your trouble. Every single time.>(3) Groal himselfHP sponge, cramped arena, boring fight. Interspersed with more Stilkin and spike balls to make it even more cramped and add RNG. To cap it all off, you've got no healing if you haven't got the wreath at this point and have ended up in the water mid-boss.Ultimately I beat him but I think all these things together make it an annoying boss. It wasn't a case where I felt like a better player for having beat him but rather that one too many annoying things had been lumped together in one place. That was probably the point, so fair play to them. But for me Groal is the most annoying boss.
they really put hunter's march there knowing full well that 90% of players would go into it without dash and without a crest that gives you normal vertical pogo, and then to top it off they put the trap bench there knowing most players would fall for it it's funny now several hours after you've done it but it's obvious they really all sat down together and thought of ways to piss the players off as much as possiblecunts
Fucking hate the sand of karak platforming
>>541415904>Without the wreathGoing into the worm water is necessary to go to and from the secret bench, you HAVE to use the wreath
>>541415913They were trying to tell you to take a different route.
>>541408994>abyss escapeI did that with Hunter, too>flea bounceReaper>platforming to nameless townArchitect
>>541415329>I don't agree with all the hatred for Groal and his runback>Then again I only had to make that runback once.Well, yeah. I assume most people wouldn't hate the runback if they had to do it only once. (Assuming you're the same anon that said the first quote.)>>541415513>>541415542>>541415593All three of you are now moving the goal post. First it was if it's a straight line, now it's about whether or not you can get lost, cancerous, or to ignore the first third or half of the run that isn't a straight line.
>>541416025Going in the water from the bench is not necessary. You can clawline + double jump over it.And even if you did touch the water, you can bind off the parasites. I did all of Bilewater without ever wearing the wreath.
>>541416025It's not. The bit you're thinking of that has a very low ceiling with water under it, you can clawline under the ceiling and then double jump right at the end of the clawline. If you hit it perfectly you avoid the water, no wreath.This is in part why people (me) complain about the runback though. It's not the same as a mindless pogo section. I had to perform that sequence every single time.
>>541415913I agree with >>541416062. Once I got past the Skarrsguard (even without having dash), once I entered the next room, I noped out of there and didn't come back until my first needle upgrade.They also give Shakra to help for those that did go deeper for whatever reason.
>get to final boss>realize all the coomer grandma fanart on twitter was actually on model
>beat final boss after many tries>huh that was actually kinda easyname it>beat final boss after many tries>fuck me that was pure luck I couldn't do that againname it
>>541417478First one was Karmelita, second one was Lost Lace for me. Karmelita just clicked the moment I stopped being over-aggressive, Lost Lace was just too fast for my aging boomer brain.
>>541417478I feel like sekiro. as if I could confidently go through the game again and curb stomp everyone. lost lace took me 4 tries.
>>541417574In my first run of Sekiro I got destroyed by everything everywhereIn my second run of Sekiro I 1st tried every boss except ape and owl and they still took less than 5 attemptsIn my third run of Sekiro I'm back to getting assraped all the timeBut also I have never beat SS Isshin lmao literally didn't beat the game
What are these homing red missiles in sands of karak, feels like its input reading me
>>541417861Every flying enemy input reads
>>541417478First one is Moorwing for me (pre-update). I still don't think he's hard, but I did die at least 4 times. I did also enjoy his battle.Second one is Last Judge. Died a lot, and I feel like I lucked out in the end. I do not want to fight LJ again. I don't have a confident strat that isn't a battle of attrition.
>>541373827One more thing, while all the other creatures I described here have only 4 legs, the skull brute and the coral furm both have 6. The brutes seem to lose the additional two when they age into a tyrant though. The coral furm also appears to have some kind of pincer near it's face. Also I don't know of it's an animation error, but the scuttler image on the wiki seems to have 5 legs, 3 on it's left and 2 on it's right, while the winged one only has 4. It's weird how much I have diggen into these nigger bodied bugs.
>>5414174781st was LL after getting used to her 2nd was Karmelita my beloved
>>541417478I never once felt the second one
Hopefully DLC quest content will be available in Act 2, too. Act 3 have a major bummer vibe, I want to play new quests in colorful Pharloom.
How much land was cut from the final release?
>>541417478>firstPhantom. Not "easy", but definitely repeatable.>secondI dunno, it has to be a fight with a major RNG factor. I guess Savage Beastifly? I won against Beastifly 2 easily, but I dunno if I could win against Beastifly 1 in early Act 1 without major luck.
>>541417861It utilizes the Omniscient Oracle tech to predict where you and projectile will be in the future, and aim projectile to it would intersect your future position after a few bounces.Joking aside, aiming via bounces is as trivial for mob AI as aiming in a straight line. Basically the same algorithm, it just looks more impressive to us humans.
>>541419138Could get a needolin memory back before Sands of Karak became a sandy shithole when it was all coral and bright and full of whimsical crabs n shit.
>>541419362Coral Tower was originally a whole area, not just a towerThere was "Pharloom Bay", I dunno if it was a poo area with dung beetles from the trailers, or it was a clear water area similar to Fleatopia, Shakra teacher's grave, and Verdania.
*ahem*runbacks *CLAP* should *CLAP* not *CLAP* exist *CLAP*
This game fucking sucks, the last judge is pure bullshit
Hahaha
>>541416014That wind constantly blowing makes it tough. Reminds me of Super Mario Bros.2: The Lost Levels.
>cogfles kill the clawline target bugs before I can clawline themlol okay
>>541420307>the last judge is pure bullshitCalm down, focus, watch her moves. Every attack is clearly telegraphed, you just need to see when it's safe to hit her back.Your best opening is when she does the jump and slam, you can land some hits there
>>541419940>There was "Pharloom Bay", I dunno if it was a poo area with dung beetles from the trailers, or it was a clear water area similar to Fleatopia, Shakra teacher's grave, and Verdania.It's the barnacle area. There's a surprising amount of pharloom bay still in the files, to the point where I fully expect it to be dlc. It's among the list of all the areas in the files (none of the other cut locations are there), and modders have been able to enable it so that it shows up in the world map.
well that sucks
>>541420307wear the magma bell if you struggle with the fire attacks
>>541419703Get the full Coral area basically. Same for the Karmelita area that only really appeared in trailers IIRC.
>>541419138You're thinking too small. They should have a post game act 4
I kinda would prefer them get started on the third game rather then spend years doing DLC. though on the other hand I love hornet and want to see more of her and she will likely not be in the third game in any major capacity if at all.
How much do I bet there's nothing particularly good at the end of this
>>541419362https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/comments/1njunsj/silksong_map_through_the_years_acmi_gameworlds/team cherry did an exhibition at an Australian museum and one of the exhibits was showing the development of the map over time. the coral forest used to be huge
>>541422070There's an ending and two mementos locked behind it.
>>541419362>>541422290What the fuck were they doing for 8 fucking years?I enjoyed both games and they've built up plenty of good will from me and others but I think if we're being objective there's an argument to be made that the same game, or an even more expansive game, could have been released in less time under tighter direction with the same resources.
>>541384605The gnats are pretty weird to be honest, they have such long limbs in their disguises. Those also only have 4 legs, while the actual thing has 5 short ones. The wings are also similar to the skullwing and winged furm in appearance. Though they seem to be the only ones with the proboscis, since at least the skulls have mouths for predation. Not sure about the others, but I assume the furms and fertids are similar as well.
>>541422630You're talking like they completely nuked the area rather than reconfiguring it into Sands of Karak/Blasted Steps.
>>541422924Considering those areas are both lame, they pretty much did.
>>541422487Fucking how far is itHow many more flying bugs do I have to pogo on
>>541423093If you're at the flying bug section then it's almost over.
>>541422630my theory is they scrapped everything and rebuilt the same map but 100 years later and we will get the original idea in an upcoming DLC that overhauls the entire game. trust
>>541422630I’ll judge them after all dlc’s have landed. A lot of it is no doubt already made and the scope creep probably impacted it too.
Oh my fucking shiteating christ on a dildo machine I hate this game
>>541423239When you get anywhere near 2 masks drop down and farm soul from the centipedes so you can heal.
>>541410324The only thing he's going to be the protagonist of is the meal of the next scavenger bug that finds his body.
>>5414174781st>karmelita>watcher>first sinner2nd>seth>second sentinel (wasn't that hard but felt like i just lucked out beating her every time because i never got a feel for her attacks)>last judge1sts are mantis lords coded, 2nds are gpz coded
>>541421142where's great chasm?
>>541410237it's not efficient. in the same time you can get way more from the big guys up in the citadel
>>541424941>first sinnerbecomes easy once you start clawlining into her
>>541423093Wait what place it is
Yay that was so worth it
>>541425335Act 3, you'll get to it eventually if you just play normally / keep doing quests.
>>541425397Make sure to kill the surface bugs or you'll have to go back up to finish off the journal.
>>541425215i didn't use clawline against her but she's still really easy once you get into her rhythmdashing to her is enough to land hits before she teleports, and it doesn't risk getting hit by a stray needle, because clawline bounces you upward
>>541425620I don't care about the journal, I killed them to farm silk so I could heal cause I reached the top with 1 mask left lmao
>>541417478>beastfly 1 and 2>nylethgimmick bosses, fuck em>everything else
>>541426084I got the order reversed btw
>>541425215every boss becomes easy if you start clawlining
>>541425397Now you get to do it again for the Mr. Mushroom quest.
I can't beat pantheon 3
>>541423239>dying in a zone with infinite healAnon pleaseI lost 900+ beads there
>>541425510I never got there and I finished the game. unless I forgot.
>>541427594It's a secret climb above the ruined cradle, where you get the AIM-9 Sidewinder silk skill
>>541427296FUCK that
>>541427310I used Lifeblood overdose there. Getting silk from worms while on low health is just asking to be killed.That said, that diagonal stall drill pogo was absolute ass for enemy pogo section, I almost died.
>>541422487> two mementosI only found one there. Do I have to go back? What's the other one?
I wonder if they experimented with walking on walls and ceiling at some point, but later rejected it for gameplay reasons.
>>541428562Probably means the hunter's memento, since you'll need the bugs up there to complete the journal.
>>541422070Bet everything you have. There's nothing you can actually use from there, to my knowledge. Completely optional in terms of game completion %.
>>541428562Other one is from a joke quest that starts at Pale Lake. You unlocked the shortcut, right?
>>541428797Mister Mushroom doesn't give a memento.
>>541428729You get a new ending cutscene, tho
>>541428872I was kinda thinking about in-game achievement system, but I guess that's different from a memento cosmetic.
>>541423239So close to the end too. I feel your pain though.>>541427594It's very easy to miss, and there's nothing at the top that's needed for 100% completion.>>541425397Make sure you open the shortcut.>>541428797I unlocked it yeah, and completed mushroom's quest.>>541428925You do, but it's a a joke ending from what I understand. No new splash screen or anything. Maybe achievements, but I don't play this on steam.
>>541429585Pretty sure it unlocks the surface menu theme.
>>541408710Higher beings are anyone with the intelligence to read.Most bugs are physically incapable of it and the messages outside of hollownest are explicitly for those who don't need the pale kings light to have a mind.
>filtered out of pantheon 4 by the failed championlmao it's so over for me
>>541429985>FOUR hearts of contact damage
So do we know that Higher Beings/Pale Ones are required to bring higher lever cognitive functioning to bugsOr was the Pale King using it as a way to keep the Radiance forgotten through propagandaIn Pharloom, there doesn't seem to be a divinity present prior to GMS, but multiple independent inelligent bug kingdoms sprouted up.Unless the Faythorn counts as a divinity
I'm so angry at myself for forgeting about wanderer crest and finding out near %100 and when only few bosses left. That shit was what I craved whole game, fast attacks and down pogo. Combining with multibinder / druid's eyes / injector band, I was going ape shit on anyone.
Lace is so fluffy...
>>541432683kissing art is kind of funny because neither character has a visible mouth. they're just bumping heads
>7 LL deaths today.>8th run.>Winning against LL>Reach phase 3. Full health, feeling calm and collected.>"I can feel it. This is it">OBS crashes, blocking the screen with a notification. Now all the sound in both the game and computer stops working.>Can't restart computer 'cause that would end this LL battle.>Decide to continue LL sound less.I lost immediately.>>541429706Wiki says Act 3's normal ending is enough to unlock it. I can't test myself since I already did MM's questline. Also still on LL.
>>541426969No fuck that, I'm no completionist and I dont care about different endings so no mushroom man quest for meBesides I opened the shortcut anyway
Sinners road actually made me think on how the fuck do regular bugs even get there.
>>541434861why did you have obs running?
>>541430796It may be a near-universal causal factor, but is clearly persistent such that ages-dead and utterly forgotten gods could be responsible for most populations.
Got it on the 5th try but it feels like cheating that i used all my tools when both the bosses appeared. I wonder why
>>541435725'Cause I record my gameplay...
Taking a break from LL. Toolless, reaper.Can't betray my precious Reaper after sticking with it all game. But man I am swinging at thin air like a lumbering oaf down here.
>>541437957You were supposed to ditch that crest you moment you found anything else. It's a bandaid crest for people who can't diagonal pogo, that's it.
Without spoiling meHow do I get maps for Bilewater or what and the MistDo I have to find Shakra because I been in Bile for like 30 minutes and I cant find her anywhere
>>541438091We ride together, we die together. No buffs, no bullshit, just a big ol' heavy needle that takes ages to swing and does fuck all damage.
>>541438354>does fuck all damage
>>541437957>>541438354If it makes you feel any better, I'm doing a similar thing with a different crest. My current strat for beating LL is to pogo her. It's been working so far, and I can reach phase 3 consistently.>>541438481"does fuck all damage" means it doesn't do much damage.
>>541438606I mean, if you want to use a shitty crest then why not use beast? At least it looks cool.
>>541438350are you actually in bilewater or in the mist? the mist is a "gimmick area" and as for shakra, you would find her naturally but depends on where you entered bilewater from, some entrances only allow you a short exploration
>>541438350Shakra is in Bilewater yesLook for openings on the lower right side of the big vertical room with the big floating bugs that puke acid at you
>>541438713Well I entered Bile like last week from Sinners road didnt find shit it was scary and full of wormsThen I dropped down from the Whispering vaults, was still for of worms and scary, I even got the Bellway already
>>541438702Because me and my homie Reaper have been together the entire game. I can't let him down now.
>>541438702Beast is my second favorite, or so. Gonna stick with my main for now though.>>541438350Mist doesn't have a map.Bilewater needs double jump for the map. You'll notice Shakra's rings some where, but see that you can't go upward.
Bumping heads with your aunt
>>541438974>Bilewater needs double jump for the map. You'll notice Shakra's rings some where, but see that you can't go upward.Thank you, I finally remembered seeing that part but couldn't get up because no double jump thats why I left.Now I just have to find that spot again.Thanks for reminding me
>>541438091Enough about wanderer
>>541439228Wrong and coping on so many levels.
>>541409090That too. There's still people that believe it's a prequel but those two are definitive proof that it's notI like to imagine most people who think it's a prequel clearly never finished the game
Seeth
>>541409327Funny, the only part i didn't like about that Ascent was the pogoing on enemies. And that was mainly because they were a bit too close to each other so I kept ramming into the ones above
>9 fails at LL without tools, consistently hit phase 2>try tools next try, spam spikes>Finally hit 3rd phase>Die almost instantly >Look up it's only half hpChat I'm cooked
>>541413920I honestly believe that Styx and Skynx are the exact same bug, and the body is a red herring. Especially when his secret room confirms that he basically changes personas every time he changes masks
This thing knows more than its letting on. Sought out specifically by the Weavers and respected by them, completely impenetrable mind, based and comfy, capable of drawing a full conversation out of Mr Mushroom.
just get good lol
>>541440529Yeah, this person does need to.
>>541411675Do the ascent climb while doing the Mushroom questlineYou unlock a shortcut up anyhow, but doing them at the same time means you literally don't have to go up there ever again
>>541440525is this an actual fucking bird or is it still some kind of insect?
>>541440464>11th try>No tools>Diagonal d-slash sparks third phase>Fall into void>DieGot a tough road ahead bros.
>>541440886it's a moth
>>541440484It's tempting for sure but it just doesn't quite sit right with me. The body being there in Styx' room and the fact that Skynx is wearing the exact same mask, except upside down.If there were no body in the main room and Skynx was wearing literally any other mask, and it was the right way up, I'd consider it settled that they're the same person. But there's just too much that doesn't quite line up.
>>541440886It's a moth
>>541440886word on the street is its a moth
>>541440991>>541441219>>541441283>>541441347Why does a moth have down?
>>541441209The fact that Skynx is wearing the exact same mask but upside down makes it even more suspicious that it can be Styx. Do you really think he wouldn't just turn it upside down so to create a wholly different persona
>>541438091Beastifly 2 and Coral Tower are trivial with that Crest
>>541441403Moths can be pretty fuzzy, no?
>>541441510Fuzzy, but not feathery. Down is specifically made up of feathers.
>>541441403There are many fluffy moths that have almost feather-like fur
>>541391521poison flea brew + wanderer takes care of him in ~1 minute
I wish crusty king actually had attacks while crusting at you instead of just jumping around the arena
don't even want to imagine the roided up godhome versions of silksong bosses we'll get in dlc sooner or later
>>541441585>Down - soft, fine, fluffy feathers which form the first covering of a young bird or an insulating layer below the contour feathers of an adult bird.Consider it to be metaphorical then. A "Flower Spider" isn't literally made of flowers.
In the OG game all moths are descended from the Radiance and the ones we interact with in the story are ones who turned their back on her in favour of the Pale King.The thing at the top of Mount Fay doesn't seem like it answers to anyone. Seems like its own thing.
>>541442359>Consider it to be metaphorical then. A "Flower Spider" isn't literally made of flowers.Maybe, but it's also a bit of a stretch to compare a name not being literal to a technical term used to describe a physical attribute.
>>541442332He has the second most health in the game, so I'm happy he's easy. We don't need another Karmelita.
>>541442754Every heart boss should have been on the same level as Karmelita. The other three were such a disappointment.
>>541442929I enjoyed the gauntlets and vibe of Coral Tower. But yeah the plant one was a jobber, felt like an afterthought.
>>541442754But Karmelita was funYou dont like to have fun?
>>541442719>Name: Faydown cloak>Physical attribute: A cloak that insulates the wearer (immune to cold), and gives them small boost upwards into the air.I don't see the problem.>>541442929Karmelita is amazing, so I wont deny then, but if you do, then remove any runbacks or immediate arenas they have so I can die 20 times to them without feeling dejected.>>541443198She is, but I also like things being easy. It's no fun if I lose interest before I can win.
>>541443430>Protective garb lined with the soft down of a FayfornThe problem is that it's not just a name, it's literally stated to be lined with down.
>>541442719>that isn’t down it’s specialized microscopic scalesSaid no bug ever.
What purpose does this machine serve the citadel
>>541443613Why would bugs even have a name for feathers in the first place if birds don't actually exist? They call their appendages claws and not hands since they have no frame of reference for what a hand would be, the same should hold true for other concepts.
>>541443604Ok, I see what you mean then.Yeah, I'd just stretch a bit and take it as metaphorical and have down be the fuzz of a baby Fayforn.
>>541443894Keeps the workers on their toes. Stay awake and focus on the job, or slip up and die.
>>541443894I imagined them as trash compactors
>>541443896They speak bug language, we just get a translation on screen. Until they go Tolkien on us and make an entire language we just have to accept “down” as a placeholder for whatever the buggish word for moth fuzz is.
>>541442430The Radiance uplifted moths that were in Hallownest, not all moths everywhere
>>541440983>>541440464Died 17 times. Flint slate was the MVP. First time I used it in a fight. Charged the needle after the beginning of the third phase and I think I got lucky at a stagger and like 6 hits with it. Flint slate once, laid a few tacks. Not bad. Not sure if I can do this again on steel soul (gonna switch to wanderer crest)
Why doesn't ecstasy of the end show up in the boardI found all the fleas and the caravan is chilling by the lake
>>541443978>>541444396That makes sense, and funny enough I was just thinking of that sort of thing. It would be kind of hard to convey the idea of a bug's equivalent of down without going out of your way to define the new word, and that just breaks the flow of information. Easier to just call it something that people are already familiar with, even if that's not what it really is.
>>541444152But the citadel didn't want workers dying, they wanted eternal workers to keep the song going that kept GMS asleep. That was the reason they started the silk infusions and banned ventrica travel.
>>541445252Is that the wish for getting the final needle upgrade? The wish to start the festival? That's Act 3 only. I think you have to talk to the flea master to start it.
I feel like a fucking noob raging conchfly is kicking my ass
>>541445837It appeared on the board after I benched at bellhart and went in an out of the subway station
>>541443894Shredding meddlesome little spiders.
Holy shit fuck off
>>541446532they're fun anon it will take an hour max
>>541446532good luck with juggle hell
>>541446671No, it's not funIt feels like it's entirely based on RNG when sometimes there's literally no way to dodge all the fleas coming from all directions and making it back to the platform no matter what you do
>>541446532>He hasn't attempted the juggleSon you ain't seen nothing yet
>>541447417there's always a way to out. don't blame rng when you fuck up your positioning
>>541446532>he doesn't know
>>541447417shaman and longclaw.use clawline to get back to the platform.past 50 seconds or so you are better off jumping around and pogoing on fleas, stay in the air as much as possible
>>541447751If beating Seth's high scores was required for 100%, I'd always just permanently stay at 99%.
>>541353687>Game trackerExcellent site. However. I'm missing two tools, both of which require craftmetal. I have only one. Wish it told me which craftmetal I was missing.
>>541446532>No flea juggle scoreJust remember to take breaks when you have to, ok?
>>541448036But it does have craftmetal in the tracker.
>>541448160I agree though, juggle and bounce are tough on your hand
>>541448204If it does, it's not displayed. Check for yourself. It shows mask shards, spool fragments, upgrades, memory lockets, etc. under no tab does it show craftmetal.
So what do you think the first DLC is going to be about? Will they be adding stuff to Act 1 and 2, or maybe something in Act 3?
>>541450456
>>541450480I hope act3It feels the most bare
>>541450605That was my issue with Act 3 as well. it felt much shorter to me than Acts 1 and 2 (that could be because i tried to finish everything up in Act 2 but still) and there's really not much to do outside of the main questline. There's maybe 2-3 wishes
>>541450586
>>541451093Oh, I just realized the one in the OP is different. Use this one: https://silksong-completion.info/
Silkshot is better by the way
>>541451382Maybe in terms of damage, but nothing beats flexing on your enemies by shooting them with money.
>>541450813Insects don't have blood, they have hemolymph. Hemolymph does not transport oxygen in insects, as they oxygenate their cells through direct interaction with oxygen in the air via their unique respiratory system. Hemolymph can range in color from clear to green, blue, or yellow, but is never red as the iron-based compounds that make mamallian blood red when oxidized are not present.The more you know!
>>541451759Insects also can't talk.
>>541451759Thank you for this info, buganon!
Is it possible to finish without Drifter's Cloak? From what I can tell the ability to bypass it got patched out, but I'm not sure.
>>541451876Technically they can.
>>541451876You don't know that
LL was far easier than what everyone else was saying
>>541451372This one shows the craftmetal, thanks
>>541452318She was harder on my first completion but when I did another run she was much easierOnce you know her moves (and how many phases) she's not as bad
We're going to see a shift over the next month from people nonstop calling the game unfair to people nonstop calling the game easy now that they've learned the mechanics and the bosses are solved.
>>541452562>Once you know her movesYou basically know her moves if you played Lace 1-2, Phantom and generic voided mobs.
>>541452645Most of the complaints I've seen from people regarding the game is literally just Act 1. To me the game only gets difficult in Act 3 since by that point you basically have everything so the game actually stops pulling punches
>>541448502Juggle is a perception check not a reflex check. If you can track the order the fleas come in and not get them scrambled you'll always know how to move before you need to.
>>541453019To be fair, Act 1 is difficult, you basically have neither muscle memory nor any of the upgrades. I got stuck on bosses for literal hours.For comparison, in Act 3 I defeated Coral Tower in 3 tries (with shortcut opened on a first try).
>>541448502Trick to Juggle: Don't aim up. Attack in a single directionThe fleas will bounce in whatever direction you attack them. So you can force all the fleas to go right or go left
Why the hell does beastfly v2 have an add that has a spit aoe, fuck
>>541451876>They never spoke with him before
I think we need a word for reaction time based gameplaythis game is an example of it
>>541453703sorry to hear you have schizophrenia
>>541453414The Coral tower fight is really funny to me. It took me about 3 tries as well and I kept expecting Khann to pull out something new, which caused me to failThen on the second try I was like "wait, that's it?" and i felt so stupid that i failed 2 times that I kept laughing when i won
>>541453757That's just most types of video games
>>541453656Threadstorm the mobs when they spawn to instakill them, takes away the entire challenge of the fight.
>>541453656because you were enjoying the game too much
>>541453656Threadstorm my dude. It trivializes fights with adds
>>541443894No cost too great
>>541453656I haven't been this angry since ds2, its like they misunderstood what made the first game fun
HAHAHAHA
>>541452318I've still yet to be her after over ~15 deaths, but I don't call her hard. I actually enjoy fighting her. If anything, I think Karmelita is hard, though that might be partly because of her gauntlet taking the fun out of it for me.I still think Last Judge is hard.>>541453790I never said they spoke to me either =/ It's lonely sometimes....
>>541453656>Why the hell does [anything exceedingly cancerous]Because at some point Team Cherry caught the Fromsoft virus and decided their mission was not to make a hard but fun game but a hard and annoying one.
>>541454260I love this tragic goober
I generally find lesbianism the lesser form of homosexuality, but I think that Hornet and Shakra would make a cute couple.
>>541454262Imo Karmelita was harder than LL, but i had a lot of fun fighting both
>>541454417Okay real talk gangHornet X Shakra or Hornet X Lace?
I keep fucking up pure vessel. I can do it on the practice mode but I just fuck it up every time when I get to him in p4.
>>541453656>Focus on boss movement>Add input tracks you to deathJesus
>>541454262Karmelita was def harder to me than LL. LL did filter me for a bit but she's really fun. both are great fights
>>541440886It's an agent of The Radiance. I do not trust it. Not even for a second.
>>541454650I prefer lacenet, but there is no need to dismiss the other one
>>541454915Radiance did nothing wrong
>>541454963t. radiance
>>541454963It opposed me. That was a very bad thing to do and it paid the price for it.
Right lads, trying to get into the citadel. Which is the easier fight, judge or phantom?They've both fucked me over a few times, so I need to decide which I should focus down
>>541454926Isn't this technically niece x aunt incest?
>>541455117Judge is way easier if you figure out the runback parking but phantom is also not that bad as long as you don't fuck up the QTE.
>>541455118niece x aunt but they consider eachother sisters and also one of them is a 1000 year old child
>>541455117Phantom just because the run back to last judge exhausts your fingers making you more linkely to trip up
>>541455117Both are fairly easyJudge>Not as intimidating as you might think>Runback is not as bad as people say it is but it is still a runback>Magmabell makes the fight less scary>Only scary part is being in the blast radiusPhantom>REALLY fun fight/QTE>Pretty much a non-existent runback (the bench is right outside the boss room)>Neat way to get to her area via The Mist>You get a Silk Skill for defeating her
>>541453656Wtf it stops its charge in the middle and charges at you at extremely low wind up
>>541453757It's called "not turn-based" game.
>>541455118So? Green Prince and his partner have twincest going on, and no one gives a shit.
>>541455118Who cares Lacenet is peak
>>541454650>Hornet X Lace>Hornet X Shakra>Hornet X Second Sentinel>Hornet X Eva>Hornet X Twelfth ArchitectHornet has no bad ships
>>541456367>Hornet X Second SentinelMy manNever sleep on the Queen's Guard
>>541455117>Phantom deals 1 damage and only has a single 2 damage attack>Judge hits for 2 damage on every attack but you can reduce the fire damage in phase 2 with magma bellPick your poison, I think Phantom is easier personally but both are fair, fun fights.
>>541453912>>541456039I legit have not played any other game that demands reaction times as fast as HK, the only thing that comes to mind is actual fighting games>darksoulsit's a completely different thing though because being 3D and having bosses that barely fit in the screen means you are not studying the bosses animation, you are rolling around until there is an opening. HK demands frame perfect inputs
>>541453757I think "bullet hell" is a sub genre of this "reaction based" gameplay genre you speak of.>>541455117>They've both fucked me over a few times, so I need to decide which I should focus downIf you've fought them both, then I figure you'd have an idea of which is easier for you. Some people find LJ easier since there's more freedom for when to hit her. Some find Phantom easier since Phantom takes the lead in the dance and all you have to do is hit when she says to.
>>541456670>he doesnt look at boss animations in dark soulsWhat? Thats the entire fucking point of the game's combat. "Looking around until there is an opening" my man you are watching their animations!
This was such infuriatingly unfun garbage it's actually unreal. At no point did it ever feel like I had any degree of control on the result. You're entirely at the mercy of how much bullshit the RNG wants to throw at you.I'll beat the other two minigames (I have no doubt they'll be just as horrible or worse) and get the needle upgrade but in future playthroughs I will either cheat/mod to get the pale oil or just not max out the needle (nor find all the fleas beforehand, the little cunts can stay trapped in the ass of the world forever), but I swear I'm never doing this fucking shit again.Jesus christ yes I'm mad.
>>541455117I can't really judge, The Last Judge have cancerous runback, and Phantom is difficult on it's own right. I think I ragequitted (Alt+F4) The Last Judge more often (because I couldn't be bothered with runback anymore), but Phantom took more tries. Maybe, I didn't count.
>>541456193They arent literally siblings though, they were just born at the same time. The incest comes from a bad translation, which is kinda depressing since it seems like all of Silksong's translations range from subpar to awful.
>>541456960And if you can believe it, Dodge is the easiest of the three
>>541455274>>541455380>>541455769>>541456574>>541456720I mean, I get so far with both but can't quite get into the groove. I don't know what people mean when they say the bench is right next to phantom, it's closer than judge sure but you still have to platform and dodge the steam blasts. I'm thinking it's harder to get needle hits in since they're so quick. Judge run back is a bastard due the the drill flies and dodging mini judges. What's your setup for either?
>>541457161What translation? I played on English. It's pretty clear what devs are hinting at
>>541457209Literally THE worst thing I've had to do in both games combined so farI'd rather the needle upgrade be locked behind a fucking 20 wave gauntlet or the most retarded platforming section than this
>>541456960Its so funny how these cute fun minigames make sweaty morons shit themselves, I've seen it happen like 3 times here now.
>>541456779I don't know about you, but I couldn't recognize the animation of DS boss if saw them out of battle, I mean, being 3d means there's a gorillion of possible frames on the screen, that's what I mean, in HK every Boss has like 3 different animations so they are visually much easier to memorize, and because of its fast paced nature the game becomes "Boss frame changes to X, Y or Z and you press X Y or Z button respectively", I don't get that experience in a 3d game
>>541457302Did you just glaze over the born apart stuff or what
>>541457393Even funnier since the Pale oil highscores is much easier than the Seth memento highscores
>>541457534By environmental lore all bugs are raised in one big pile. If they're born at the same time, they're clutchmates.
>>541457689Imagine the salt if mementos were required for 100%>>541456517Good taste
>>541457393I only had any difficulty with juggle until I got shaman
>>541457272>What's your setup for either?I don't think I can help you there. I use wanderer, but I'm that kinda player that just focuses on using the needle only. No red tools. Even with LL I'm not using any red tools. Just wanderer without long claw.I use things like weavelight and the druid tool 24/7 though. Snitch pick too.
>>541457386Ngl, a 20 wave arena of all/most the mob enemies of Pharloom sounds pretty chill. Don't make any double baby-boss waves like in HH arena. That'd be such a dick move to have to do 19 waves all over.
>>541457209Bounce was orders of magnitude easier and I might even say it was somewhat fun
>>541458016Kind of funny how out of all the mementos, there's 5 that you should actually get/are tied to one another>Hunter's because achievement>Grey Memento because Hunter's Journal>Craw Memento because Hunter's Journal>Hero's Memento because Hunter's Journal + achievement>[Insert Heart] Memento because achievementSurface Memento you might as well get since you have to climb up there for both the Mr Mushroom's questline and to complete the Hunter's JournalBut Seth's Memento is completely optional since you only need to beat the previous highscores from the fleas to get the Pale Oil. And Sprintmaster's is optional since you just need to beat the 3rd race for the mask shard
Cute
>>541458615Yeah, bounce is the easiest and funnest imo. I even like dodge a little bit. Juggle however.... I think I'm better off never doing that again.
>>541459858Honestly I expected them to be instantly destroyed when sitting on bench like everything else. But they're surprisingly persistent.
>>541459879Imo what makes dodge so much harder than bounce and juggle is it feels the most RNG. Juggle you can kind of manipulate and you at least have 3 strikes before you're out. Bounce becomes trivial once you get into a grooveDodge is entirely RNG based since you can get like 10 fleas where they don't even come close to you or 50 fleas doing everything in their power to make your day the worst possible day in Pharloom
>>541460306It's entirely RNG. Bounce and Juggle I can notice I'm getting better at them, Dodge I depend 100% on getting lucky. It's a terrible minigame.
>>541353687
>>541460671It's the only minigame where I thought "i didn't win because I got good. I won because I got lucky"
>>541460723>Get infected by the Radiance>basically lose your sense of self and have to deal with THE SUN whispering in your years for eternity>Get infected with the greyroot>You're on the clock on how fast you can egt it out of your system before it uses you as a host to hatch from (it's implied Hornet is using everything in her power to fight off the parasite from killing her)
>>541459858I love the cogflies
can I still do the curse thing in act 3 should I
>>541461794Yeah ideally you do it in 2 but you want the crest unlock regardless.
>>541461794Can you get cursed in Act 3? YesCan you unlock the Witch Crest in Act 3? YesCan you get the cursed ending? No
>>541460306>or 50 fleas doing everything in their power to make your day the worst possible day in PharloomI've gotten the pale oil already, but I never felt like the RNG was that bad. I never felt there was a moment in dodge that couldn't be done. Guess I'll see it again when I try to beat Seth's scores.
>>541460306You know you can recover after getting hit, right?
>>541462660It's not about any single dodge that can't be done, it's about how after you dodge you may have a perfectly clear airspace or there might be 3 shits coming at you from one side and 3 from above two of them diagonally, and then you dodge those somehow and suddenly it's 10 seconds of nothing getting anywhere close to you, and then the fat flea shows up and eats the platforms and they don't reappear before you're already out of the screen or maybe it doesn't show up at allHow far you get in that minigame is 10% your skill at dodging and recovering and 90% how many fleas come at you at any given moment and from which directions and angles
I beat Flea Dodge in like 10 minutes. Maybe some of you guys are just mediocre at air movement.
>>541457272Basic hunter I didn't unlock anything as I had no idea how crests worked at the time
>>541457272The heat shield thing for last judge, not really anything else specific, just use what you like.Just follow any of the runback videos for last judge, sprint + jump to and from the platform under the 1st conchfly, the rest is just pathing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bdRRsvNLwQ
>Enter The Architect's chamber one last time>A lumafly flies awayGod dammit.
>>541457272>What's your setup for either?I changed nothing but just Magmabell for LJyou can fight both bosses the same way, just Magmabell helps with LJ
So much tentacles
Just beat Last Judge cleanly, no use of bell since I would have to switch from Beast Crest. Felt really good executing the timings. The runback was also not that bad. One thing I learned was that Beast cannot pogo even close to an enemy. Her big fat hitbox kept hitting me from afar. Anyway damn I love this game. Feels great.
>>541465852Welcome to act 2 bud. This is where the fun beginsAnd grats on beating Last judge
>>541466415>grats on beating last judge Its actually the second time Though im kinda happy I died to the explosion 2-3 days ago and tilted out of my mind. Came back now and learned the boss, as one should. Feels a lot more rewarding
bros I dont think I'm built for Godhome content the bosses just have way too much hp to be fun
>Silksong released>Deltarune Chapter 3 and 4 released>Protomen Act 3 coming outThis year has been nutty.
I love reaper so much
>>541467158Don't forget Hades 2 also releasingThis year has been great for indie games
>>541467158>>Protomen Act 3 coming outWait what
>>541468083I cant believe I forgot about Hades 2. Insane video game drops all around. So many good games came out this year.>>541468342Check the news bro!
>>541468442AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>541456670>I legit have not played any other game that demands reaction times as fast as HKI liked the Punch Out games.
>>541466752yeah by that point TC drank the souls difficulty meme and lost their way
>>541469453Mindbroken
540695429869453stop
AAAAAAAAHHHH.IT IS DONE.81 HOURS. I am finally free.I thought I screwed up in those last moments. She turned white, and it trigger my "OMG DO IT NOW" and I almost hit the void saw blade. That close to losing the battle again.AAAAAHHHHHH. I need to go some where and scream. I want to cry. I'm finally free.
>AHEM intensifies
>>541469809Or so he thought.
>>541469809took me 4 tries. you got a bad brain
I have nothing to play once I beat SilksongNo new releases, nothing released recently, nothing I'm interested in and the few games I want to play are still years awayGuess I'll replay HK again, think it's been maybe 3 years since the last time
>>541470143I beat her without even opening the game. Git gud
>>54146980981 hours spent on a single bos??
Even though i hated the bone bottom guy i still never broke his giftI did mess up his statue tho
I beat her by not playing the game
>>541459879juggle is easy. don't use up swings ever. use only regular side attacks. they will bounce in the direction you attack from. so group them up and it becomes trivial.
>>541469453>souls games invented difficultyYou would not have survived the NES era
>>541470136What do you mean? 100% and it ended no? Guess I can get the mementos too, but am I not free now?>>541470143Rude. Maybe you're just really good.>>541470405No, 81h for 100% and the ending.>>541470416Doesn't the Skull Tyrant break it anyway?
>>541470416>I did mess up his statue thowas there any dialogue or reaction to this? I accidentally the bridge but nothing happened
@541470034Imagine getting bullied out of a single player game's fanbase
>>541469809>>541470574Congrats! Also even if you spare the statue in act 2 from the skull tyrant (you just keep it away from it) it does get abyss'd in act 3 so thats kinda sad.
>>541470574>>541470960Well good thing i did it then>>541470605I dont remember him having any
>>541470574>Doesn't the Skull Tyrant break it anyway?it only showed up after I killed the 2nd skull tyrantalso skull tyrant is a terrible boss that barely has a moveset and is stupidly tanky for no good reason
catestrefadastemahirunare
>>541472748HAAAAAAAAW
It amazes me that anyone could be broke once you reach the citadel, the game literally throws rosaries at you.
>>541472875Is this pre-update broke or post-update broke? They reduced prices post-update.
>>541473046Either one, but especially post-update.
>>541473124Then I guess I amaze you. I was broke for essentially 100% of the game. And by that, I mean I couldn't buy everything. Even at the end (>>541469809) I still can't buy the hottub for the bellhome.
>>541473484(For the record, I didn't lose any cocoon rosaries, nor did I but more than 1 shard bundle.)
>>541473484>I was broke for essentially 100% of the gameHow? It's especially easy to make rosaries in Act 2Did you tie up your rosaries?
>>541473484I mean more like people who pull up to a bellway or bench or Vog and have like 20 rosaries to their name and single frayed rosary string. Not having 1100 for something that's essentially useless once you bind Eva isn't a big deal.
>>541473046they only nerfed the prices by like 20 roseries. that's like 3 kills. go walk outside the bell station and slap 3 guys.I think the people that had roseries issues just expected to be able to wipe out every shop the second they saw it for the first time. like you would in a final fantasy game upon reaching a new town.
>>541473632>Did you tie up your rosaries?I never needed to.>>541473574>>541473762I don't never used Vog (too poor to afford her), and I would've had the bench/bellway issue, but I knew they cost money, so I just didn't spend my money on anything else if I had less than 150 rosies, or so.>>541473952The last needle upgrade cost dropped from 900 to 680. If I had paid only 680, I might've been able to afford the hottub.
>>541474139>I don't never used I didn't* ever* use*
>>541472748I like transcribing their funny little language, but it's really hard for Lace. It kind of sounds like she's speaking a gibberish version of an asian language like Japanese perhaps. Her words are hard to decipher.
>>541473046The best thing about the update was the increase in quest/relic rewards. Actually huge for the second half of Act 1, I had plenty of cash. Frankly I think they did a good job with the economy compared to HK, where geo quickly became useless (prior to the fragile charm moneysink in the dlc which was a somewhat clumsy bandaid)
>>541472748Is this the Pinstress?
>>541474139>The last needle upgradethat one seems silly that he's charging you at all after saving his life
>>541474432Charging you while the world, as he knows it, is ending, with you as the possible last hope.
>>541474527well that applies every shop keeper in most games.
>>541473632Fuck no that's a waste of rosaries. It's the game's fault for punishing my playstyle with SHIT droprates.On an unrelated note, whenever I get hit i climb inside the enemy's hitbox and mash attack while screeching. Game keeps killing me on runbacks for NO REASON. Literally STEALING what little rosaries they did give me.
>>541474432tbf, the guy was literally trying to die
>>541474659>Game keeps killing me on runbacksIf you're about to lose rosies on a runback, press start and quit the game. You'll restart at the bench coco intact.
>>541474659Bro your silkeaters?
If you didnt basedface during the abyss climb you are not human
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I maintain Dodge is way way way worse than this, this feels perfectly doable
>>541477039dodge is in fact the worst, it's only one anon saying otherwise
How the fuck can you be poor? I had thousands of beads with nothing to spend on. Never farmed.
>>541477039They all suck
>>541477484Pretty sure even TC knew they sucked since they locked the last pale oil behind them as a way to get people to want to engage with them at all.
>>541477039They're all fun and Fleatopia is a kino payoff in general.
>>541477627All the flea games were kino, and I beat the high scores just for the hell of it without even knowing about the last Pale Oil.
>>541477869Yeah the pale ore was a pleasant surprise, the games were just fun and I was happy to engage with them. I havent done the Seth's Memento stuff but I'm glad the flea minigames are present, it fleshes out the world to have these random things like the knife throw challenge and the sprintmaster race.
are the snails supposed to be jews? or the fleas?
None of the speedrun guides have target times so idk how I'm doing. Made it to halfway home at almost the exact hour mark. Gotta decide I wanna go last judge or phantom
>>541478292The fleas are romani.
>>541478572gypsies are jews
>>541478832Nah, they're jeets that were too shitty even for jeets to want.
>>541478496I prefer Phantom route just because Chalamet skip is cool, but Mist can be a total rng timesink. TLJ route is more consistent but you have to do Craw Lake (but at least you get Threadstorm out of it). Both are completely viable, just go with your gut and what you think you will do better at.
i know the trick to juggle is to group the fleas together by hitting them all in the same direction but I feel that sometimes when they start coming out in 3s and 4s and they come from both sides there's sometimes one of them that comes in too far and too late to be able to redirect it towards the others, and then there's nothing to do but let that one go and lose a strike
>>541478945Gut says phantom, cuz last judge can suck my last cock
>>541479014The real trick is to not overthink it and enjoy it as a rhythm game.
>lace slaps her ass to taunt hornet in the docks fight Cute
>>541474659>Doesn't tie his rosaries>No silkeatersYou deserve being broke
there is just nothing like nightmare king grimm. i never struggled against a boss like him before in both games. there is absolutely no chance to heal you either do it hitless or you won't beat him
Just how many fucking gears does the Second Sentinel have inside it? I swear the amount of gears I've knocked out of it could fill up the room we were in if they didn't magically despawn.
>>541479014literally just count the fleas as they come inif you track them properly you can be in position early no matter what direction they go
>>541478945>but Mist can be a total rng timesinkJust use the needolin
>>541477209Oh, guess that's me then. Alright, I just beat LL, so I'll go check out Dodge again. Seth is probably there by now, so I'll aim for his score.
>>541479689You can heal for one during the spikes and heal for three when you stun him into his bat form. Pure Vessel has tigher heals if I remember correctly.
>>541479785Yeah I know that but the layout is random and the Wraiths are randomly positioned. Even if you know tricks like the third room always being a side exit and you can recognize room spawns, the random nature of the layout means you can just lose time navigating it. In comparison, every single time through Blasted Sands will be identical if you're moving optimally.
>>541480120The good thing with the Mist is you only have to go through it once. There's a bench right outside Phantom's fight and the runback from there is incredibly short in comparison to Blaster StepsBoth are viable though
>>541480447Yeah also completely fair. Plus after Phantom you get that super comfy Citadel entry point right at the fast travel hub. Plus Cross Stitch is a cool skill and Last Judge gived you nothing (although you can get a craftmetal along the way and immediately go back for the dice). Frankly its just cool to have options both with their own positives.
>>541479892one doesn't really cut it when he does two masks>bat formnever got him to that point..>pure vesselhaven't tried him oh fuck me
>>541415904You can cheese Groal by staying in the water. No wreath. Git gud.
>>541480732Every little bit helps! Two spike heals is enough to tank one more hit so it does add up. Anyways good luck! I remember being totally overwhelmed but learning the fight felt so good. Just an awesome boss in general.
Alright then give me the thing and go fuck yourself, you and your shitty games, I'm never doing this again
>>541353687GOT YOU BITCHFUCKING FINALLYKNEEL. P4 was harder than anything in Silksong for me.
>>541480686That's also true. Both have different rewards in a wayPhantom grants you Cross Stitch, drops you right next to the Citadel Bellways, and into the Citadel itselfWhere in contrast Last Judge grants you more exploration. You can climb up and break into the Citadel itself via the breakable part above. But most people would probably take the elevator and fall into the Underworks, which is a completely new area to exploreThe good thing is you can do both, so regardless of either method, you can fight both and experience both sides. it's nice that TC gives you the option to enter the Citadel from two different areas, but you're not locked out either regardless of which entry you take
>>541481232>You can climb up and break into the Citadel itself via the breakable part aboveDon't you need double jump for that
>>541480972i just got him to the bat form. i guess i can do it but that shit is difficult. searching for he is gonna spawn only to find that he is doing spikes is brutal. his entrance is pretty kino though. thanks anon
So how long until there's a manufactured drama about Lace being "le blackface racismus"?
>just got Wanderers CrestHoly fucking kino
>>541481530Nope you can hit the scales up with your needle and get up, iirc you can wallcling and jump from the left wall to reach the second row of scales and then head right to the breakable wall.
>>541481548Good luck, you've got this! All his attacks are consistent so once you find an approach that works its all about execution. Very much a reaction focused fight but one that is very doable.>>541481562Probably never, weird thing to think about.
>>541481972I hate Lace so I want to force one but I don't know how to do it successfully.
>mt fay>karak>surface climb>upper cogwork coreI think those are the main hard platforming sections right? I don't count hunter's march, that's only hard if you're a noob and you're still using hunter crest
>>541482265Why would I not be using hunter crest? There's not actually people who skipped hunter's march until later in the game, right?
>>541482265Sound right. Bilewater's climb can be a pain too, but I think the ones you listed are more precision based, where as Bilewater's is simple, but RNG feeling.>>541482428>There's not actually people who skipped hunter's march until later in the game, right?I did. Came back sometime after the first needle upgrade iirc.
>>541482693>Bilewater's climb can be a pain too, but I think the ones you listed are more precision based, where as Bilewater's is simple, but RNG feeling.You mean the part with the big floating whale bugs that spit acid at you and you have to take cover? What's RNG about that?Or you mean the random placement of mosquitos that can fuck you up?
Trobio was very fun. I forced myself to not use tools or upgrade the needle just for practice. Godamn i love this game.
Wow they're really gonna make me do a bunch of gauntlets with no rest inbetween? I was doing well in the 2nd one until it was two big conchflies plus spikes on the floor
>>541483084I like that so much of his fight revolves around learning to not be distracted by his spectacle, it feels very relatable with how Hornet must feel ingame. The spotlight always following him is such a nice touch.
Surely it's not three gauntlets in a rowOr a boss after two gauntlets with no restSurely they wouldn't do that
>>541484115>sitting on a full heal with 4 masks down
Ah wellThe high halls gauntlet was worse than this I'd say
>dying in coral tower
>>541484718High halls is 100% worseAt least Coral tower you can unlock a shortcut
>>541484718You've got this bro! Those sniper fuckers are the worst, I used my tools to get them out of the way asap.
>>541484801
I can't believe Hornet would reward a goober like Styx with sex.
Lets go. I got the Garmond and Zaza fight. It was on my mind ever since anons warned me it was missable. I think getting the psalms unlocked it but i have met him 3 previous times when i was moving through the cidatel
>>541485237See you in 30 seconds after you beat him.
>>541485358i got sad midfight and starting playing the needolin. Do you get no achievement for this though? Nothing popped up
>>541486106You get a journal entry
Did they remove the driznit spawn below the dead judge in blasted steps? I swear that thing annoyed the shit out of me on every runback, but I never see it spawn during other people's.
>>541486106Gonna fight him again in act 3, that's the really sad fight.
>>541486331Yep
>>541486514Why spoil a good moment for the guy? The emotional impact of seeing Zaza panicking alone was one of my favorite Silksong moments.
>>541486527Good, that spawn was pure ass. I hated how it would always fly up that narrow tunnel you had to use to get up to the dead judge and block your path.
>>541482923Idk what I was thinking. Please disregard it.>>541483402You can open a shortcut after the 3rd. Make sure you locate it though.
Are these 2 little bozos serious? I have to get this to Songclave by FOOT?
>>541486331>>541486527why can't they just add a bench outside last judge?
>>541487359
Why can't they just let me auto skip last judge? Ubisoft would let me.
Why can't they just add a bench every time I can't see the last bench?
>>541487378Because its a cool final test of your platforming skills. It also takes like 30 seconds when you know what you're doing.
>when I die I go back to my last checkpointHow Soulslike! This is completely unheard of in games prior to Dark Souls, the very first Souls game. Particularly in Metroidvanias. Why even call them benches, they should be called bonfires!
>>541487892Did you know that Dark Souls added dying to video games? Before Dark Souls you couldn't die in a video game. Clearly Dark Souls is bad for the influence it has had on video games.
>>541487892Nah, they should be called coffins. To honor their father.
Dont beat me up but I kinda love the Bell Eater fight
>>541411449>>541413920Janus, the god of two (or three) faces
>>541487378Are you trying to make the game fun and less punishing? Come on.
>>541487359Just use the song clave bench, fast travel to get the package, then restart the game?
>>541488712No worries, it's kino. I had a bit more trouble with it than I should have because I was panicking about what happened to the Bell Beast and rushing myself.
>>541487745no, it takes 40, you don't have clawline at that point unless you the the other route to act2
>>541487359it's not even a timed delivery so whats the problem, just avoid damage
>>541490085Didn't you hear? Avoiding damage takes away MUH FREEDOMS and is a soulslike concept. Dark Souls invented consequences.
>>541489931There's clips online of people sprinting through it in 33 seconds
>>541490085>>541488920i did it normally it was easy enough and kinda fun in a stealth avoid damage kinda way.
>>541411484>rngholy skill issue
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>>541474527I wish they put a lore reason on it in act 3 and had him doing full on nailsmith stuff with a forge. Like suddenly drop that the rosaries are made of something special, and that he needs to crush an ungodly amount of them into powder to use as flux. Put a big pile of rosary powder on his counter implying that he already destroyed his life savings but still needs more. Would have been hilarious but also a hit to the feels.
>no muckmaggot fishing minigame>no taking-over-for-Lugoli cooking minigame6/10 game, "it's perfect" - IGN
>>541495469>no Loddie supreme panultimate challenge minigame were you have to hit 100 targets5/10 games
>>541454963
>>541495469>Cooking Mama game but it's all gross backwater grub with LugoliI need this and I didn't even know how much I needed it until now.
Yuri is cringe
>>541496898You're cringe
>>541496898Yuri can be cute sometimes, but yurifags will always be cringe.
I like the Lace Hornet arts they are cute and well drawn. Me knowning Lace and Hornet and straightstacies doesnt prevent me from enjoying a hypothetical
>>541481197Silksong forced me to git gud. HK let me facetank everything. Hopefully going back into it with good habits will help
holy moly just beat path of the fool, please tell me the game doesn't get harder than that
>>541498242I could tank way more in silksong. The air heal is absurd
I'd like to formally apologize to Beast Crest. I'm sorry I wrote you off because of your unusual pogo. I'm sorry I was too much of an idiot to see the fun in the Bind ability. I'm sorry I let /v/ convince me it was bad. Mercury was in retrograde.
>>541500946/v/ is terrible at games so that checks out. Beast Crest's biggest downside is the lack of blues. Its still good for combat though.
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>>541477484>>541477627Bounce is so kino, my first high score for the pale oil turned out to be so high it almost beat Seth's score
>>541497402You know what, you're right.
what is consensus on Eva? my hunch is that, similar to Phantom and Lace by GMS, she's a prototype on a pure silk, sentient being by the Weavers that failed and depends on the whole mechanism that she's trapped in to survive.
>>541505909The pod in the Exhaust Organ looks similar so I think you're right. I do wonder if she was created in an attempt to oppose GMS since the Weavernests are filled with their plans against her, or if she was legitimately meant to be an offering to appease her. If they truly detested her I wonder why they didnt just turn the machine off to kill her.
>>541488763>He thinks the game is punishingStick to floober doober kiddo
>>541507026>Floober DooberIf you equipped the schnee-schnaw before fighting Hobwob, ydbtg.
>>541500946Biggest thing holding Beast back is blues. Other from that it's not badDefinitely takes a bit to get used to vs other crests though. But it's really fun once you lock in
>>541480732Its not a bat phase, its just that when you hit him enough to stagger him he momentarily turns into a little bat that flies around harmlessly for a few seconds. Its actually kind of annoying to land a hit on him and I rarely can, it is the perfect time to heal. Also when he does his move where he creates the fire geyers underneath you that's another good time to heal. Just wait until hes made the fourth, dash and heal. Its also a great time to sneak in hits. I could always hit a charged dash-slash right underneath him as I passed by. Alternatively stop right before him so a geysery forms under you, then move under, hit him twice, and keep going. Just don't put yourself in a corner until the fourth geyser and you're good to go on that move
Fuck the choral tower gauntlet. I like this game but a lot of shit is just frustrating for the sake of it.
>>541480686
>>541472748>>541474230lace va is japanese
>>541510335I love this goober
uhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnn...... nyus?
>>541353687AAAAAA i just choke to p5 pure vessel AAAAAkill me
>>541472748Kuumann
>>541474230I thought her language had an Italian vibe to it.
the bell beast and her kits are so cute... oml I love my fucked up cat so much. glorious. I cant get over them.is the bell beast more cat coded or dog coded? would it play fetch with you? I need answers /hkg/
>>541515519>defends its ownerDog for sure, cat would sit back and watch
>>541515519no doubt some sort of secret third thing
>>541515519>is the bell beast more cat coded or dog coded?More Porcellio scaber coded.
>>541463246>and then the fat flea shows up and eats the platforms and they don't reappear before you're already out of the screenYou can pogo the fat flea
I'm kinda surprised that there are no hidden areas in Abyss reachable via swimming in void liquid. The flower is kinda an equivalent of Isma's Tear ability from HK, and that ability lets you access new areas.
>>541507638>>541500946The pogo is amazing and the dash attack reaches far. The only issue is lack of blue slots, and lack of slots in general. Feels like you're gimping yourself for no reason but it's real fun
>>541517315>2 tools>No blues>Only 2 yellows>With vesticrests you can equip another yellow and one (1) blueVs every other crest where you can equip 3-4 blues, 3-4 yellows, and 1-3 tools Beast Crest feels like you're playing on hard mode
>>541517662I enjoy unloading with bind and I thoroughly enjoy the pogo so I'm stuck with it. Maybe I'll make the change to hunter but I feel the pogo has a very small reach lol will have to relearn it all
>>541509291Shakra trivializes this one, all you have to do is just survive. I just Architect all the other parts of the game i really don't want to deal with.As much as i like this game it has some parts that i find incredibly draining but you have enough tools to power through it.
>>541517662>>Only 2 yellowsWho cares about yellows, tho. Magnetite Dice and Compass are enough.
>>541518426Exactly. That's the point.
>>541509291High halls gauntlet or coral tower gauntlet
>>541518750hh is much harder if you dont have shakra
>>541517662Honestly two red tool slots for beast doesn't make much sense. Replace reds with blues.
>>541519553It fits the Skarr theming, traps and tools
>>541519553Two tools is ok. But it needs a blue as base, if nothing else than simply to wear the skarr mask. Why can't I equip their gear if I also got the crest in their lands? Ludonarrative dissonance.
>>541467158>Protomen Act 3 coming outOf all the places to find out about itholy shit
Day 2 of LL, toolless, Reaper.
If souls are butterflies then why doe the knight leave a void thing behind
>>541518750individual gauntlets of the coral tower aren't hard, the enemies are squishy and good chunk of them are very predictable, it just goes on for ages and banks on you making a mistake. I would rather prefer if it was structured more like Verdania, explore the map, do the gauntlet open some shrine, 3 shrines and you can tackle the last gauntlet + boss becuase it has such beatuiful backgrounds, easily the prettiest location in the game.
>>541522626Just pogo her ground tentacles, bait her on parries for free hits and bait her double slash in the air so she goes into the dive, its free hits every time.
>>541523067I think that would be cool but its clear they wanted each heart location to feel unique and that would just be the Lost Verdania schtick twice.
>>541523637I've still much work to do feeling out her rhythm. The only sequence I have observed is 2 direct charges with ground tentacles in her wake and then those are followed immediately either by a third charge OR she spins into the air. I need to get it into my head that I cannot just dash above her during those initial charges because the tentacles extend too high.Also any time I try and hit her head on and she blocks me I'm getting hit fully with her flurry response. If I want to keep attacking head on I will need to find a way to get away the moment I register she's blocked my swing.
>>541524389If you go above the tentacles during her dashes she will always dive kick after the second dash, its hard to describe but if you get the feel of it you can do it consistently. For the parry you can always jump immediately after, and then go forward/back depending on her positioning.
Of the permanent Pharloom residents who are alive at the end of Act 3, is there enough firepower and resolve there for them to defend Pharloom from a future threat, if required?Let us assume Hornet and Lace do not remain in Pharloom for the question to be interesting. You've got:>Shakra>Sentinel>Seth>Trobbio>Seamstress & PinstressIs that enough? Is there anyone else who isn't a total jobber who could be called upon if required?
>"You can save Loddie from act 3 by winning all his money. After he admitted that he ran out of money, he will move the whole camp away in act 3 instead of getting killed there."Shitfuck. How many NPCs can be saved by doing some esoteric stuff?
>/r/silksong data mined the game and determined a pacifist flag to not be judged>confirmed how sherma made it to the citadel
>>541526241Huntress might be able to be cobvinced to help. Vaultkeeper might be able to defend the Citadel if you convinced him it was in danger. Forge Daughter and the other guy (Ballow? I cant remember) could probably be pretty heavy hitters with their gear. The craws might still be organized enough to lend a decent hand too.
>>541526845>no way to ever trigger it because Moss Mother is requiredBrutal
>>541527181>Moss Mother was skippable in the 2019 demoMan that would have been such a cool secret to find in Blasted Steps if you went there on a pacifist run before killing Widow.
>>541527094by act 3 huntress is dead or ran away, you might have some luck with her kids.
>>541527561I doubt she fled into the wastes entirely with a bunch of kids, she's gotta eat. I figured she just went somewhere else in Pharloom (assuming you didnt fuck up the quest and get her eaten).Actually if Skynx from Steel Soul mode counts she might be legit as a threat to Pharloom invaders, she's got psychotic killer energy yet she helps Hornet out.
Is this runback to that gauntlet for real or am I meant to approch it from the other side?
>>541527940There's a free full silk restore hidden right before the gauntlet so just focus on getting there efficiently. I hope you have the wreath of purity.
>>541527940it's not bad at all
>>541527917>she's got psychotic killer energy yet she helps Hornet outI assumed this is purely because they see Hornet as much stronger, i think Hornet touches on that in one of the journals that bugs instinctively submit to someone stronger
>>541527940That is indeed the shortcut runback.
>>541527940You can make it without touching the water if you claw efficiently.
>Asked to snuff out 3 powerful souls for a ritual, despite the potential devastating effect on the environs, not to mention the lives of those sacrificed>Comes back with 4 heartsIs Hornet a psychopath?
>>541529326>"I won't disturb you further">invades his mind and rips his heart outyes, she is
>>541529326That's just a possibility, tho. Hornet can proceed with either three or four hearts. It's (You) who chose the latter.
>>541485081What to do with this?
So was Grand Mother Silk in a sleep paralysis the whole game, only being able to slightly control silk threads? And Hornet coincidentally reached her right at the moment where she woke up, and beaten her up before she could work out the kinks in her body?
>>541530589I assume Hornet's challenge undoes the lingering silk and song spell holding her in place. She was always about to wake up soon regardless of whether Hornet showed up though, it was just a sooner or later thing. But yes she is doing the Haunting while asleep.
>>541530558its a harp? you should know what to do
>>541530825What I only have the needolin
>>541530962oh wait, i guess you already played and this text activated? Sooner or later a NPC you talk to will reference this cave. if you want to talk to them right away it's the flea caravan leader
Fuck this quest is gonna cost a few thousand shardsbtw does any beast count or I have to use beats of the ducts?
>extremely late to the party>just "finished" the original Hollow knight (it says 103%, I've read total is 112 or something)>apparently there's a boss rush mode that unlocks a harder version of the final boss, I might have to google how to unlock itIs it worth it? I really liked the game but there are other games to play out there and I really don't like the idea of repeatedly killing bosses to attempt a harder one againOnly thing I'm missing is unlocking the hard mode version of the circus guy and finding the last mask piece, but I don't really care about the latter
>>541531425any enemy
>>541531425you get more than 1 drop for a few of these so it's not too bad
>>541531436Its cool to unlock Godhome for a few new boss fighrs and the godseeker mode in general is a nice addition if you ever eant to do that down the line, and Nightmare King Grimm rules of course, but there is no need to force yourself to do stuff you dont have an interest in. I never really bothered with Pantheon 5 because every attempt takes too long.
>>541531436>I really don't like the idea of repeatedly killing bosses to attempt a harder one againTry it, and if you don't have fun, stop. Easy as that.
Can we drop the use of "higher being" as referring to Demigods already? At least with regards to Hollow Knight, Pale King and so on. Its simply not the correct way to view its usage.
>>541507638>>541507638
>>541531425>I have to use beats of the ducts?No, you don't have to>Fuck this quest is gonna cost a few thousand shardsYou can use Architect's Charged Attack for Shredded Ordans.
>>541532279Or beast pogo
>>541531436>Is it worth it?No.
>>541531436Nightmare Grimm is FUN so try him out
Zanzabaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
>>541532412Don Quixote...
>>541531425>few thousand shardsWhere are you getting this from? Couple hundred max. Only killing blow is needed.
>>541532412I thought only shakra was the only help there, good to see zanzibart helps out too
>>541532412Only found out posting here that you can get the Garmond / Shakra assist during this gauntlet. I had neither and no double jump because I'm a retard. Had to give up at one point and just come back some time later after more exploring because I was getting nowhere. In that time I got the tacks and they made the difference.
>>541533704It bums me out that Second Sentinel isnt an option to help after her duel. Would have been kino.
>>541533704wait does that mean i missed the shakra fight? I cant for the life of me find out where the hell double jump is. Has to be still in act 1 somewhere gonna go look.
Wanderer is easy mode
>>541534128double jump is high, high, high up
>>541534128Double jump can be acquired immediately after getting harpoon.
>>541534128double jump is in mount fay
>>541534128Double just is high And it's very very "cool"
What is the general consensus on the difficulty of the game? I finally just finished the True Ending. I found most of the difficulty of the game to not real challenge. I hope you guys know what I mean.I just feel like all of the "difficulty" comes from the games dumb aspects rather than actually being challenging. 2 damage attacks everywhere in the game sucks, skills and heals being the same resource sucks, the skills and charms you can use are good but feels very restrictive especially with resources needed for both. Getting hit while healing and losing everything sucks. The run backs and forced cutscenes suck. Input reading bullshit enemy moves; and so on. So many of these systems just clash completely with the game. I never found being aggressive to be the right move, never found being passive the right move. I never felt like my skill was on display because trying hard doesn't equal a win. It's more luck based if the enemy decides to do this move or that move, or if the game decides to not fuck you in the ass with undodgable, unavoidable scenarios. If most attacks only did 1 damage, the run backs weren't so annoying, etc. The game would just be too easy. Feels like it's in a horrible place where it isn't really hard but more annoying, and also isn't easy enough to breeze though, but isn't average-difficulty enough to play normally (casually?) and have a good time.
>>541535884THe only difficult part of the game is the platforming, I didn;t rage at all from fighting bosses but the platforming made me seethe so hard.
>>541535884the difficult part is the bosses and gauntlet rooms, the platforming is so good and makes me smile
>>541527940Trust me bro. If you don't have the Wreath of Purity, don't even bother. The juice aint worth the squeeze for that one. If that's your only place to go, just keep trying, you'll eventually do it. But if you have elsewhere, go there and come back. Bilewater is the 0/10 area of the game.
>>541535884>skills and heals being the same resource sucks...Did you even play HK? Or any other game with "magic" resource, for that matter?>Getting hit while healing and losing everything sucksWarding Bell prevents that
>>541526241Did you forget about Vog?
>>541535884there is no consensus, half the fanbase is fromdrones excusing every bad game design decision under the pretext of difficulty=good, the other half that isn't brainrot more or less agree with what you just said, too many of the mechanics are there to waste the player's time and TC lost their concept of fun and overdid with the punishments. On the other hand, they gave the game a lot of replayability value so there's a silver lining
>>541531425You can use architect crest's power attack and pogo for the shredded organs, no shards needed for that
>>541536005I genuinely question why the guantlets and bosses are difficult though? Because to me they are the parts that are most fun, but least challenging and most frustrating. Fighting bosses in tiny arenas, spikes everywhere, explosion moves all over the arena, teleports and dodges galore, literal 1 frame free blocks for the boss that don't let you hurt them. Gauntlets are the same shit. Not really that hard, but force you into scenarios that test your patience, ability to heal/dodge; typically too small of a room to really stretch your legs and makes healing very risky.The way the game wants you to play is to not get hit at all, while being aggressive, dodging and attacking all at the same time in a "dance" with the enemies. But it just doesn't work because the screen is constantly filled with enemies, projectiles, shit to stop you in your tracks, shit to force you to abandon an attack, restricts your ability to move and do shit because you're force to play the game wants right now or else. It works so well when you pull it off, but no one is perfect and any slip up can and will ruin the fight for you as it spirals down. Especially since you can get hit multiple times in quick succession all which deal 2 (sometimes more) damage when it takes you 5+ hits of aggressive close range gameplay just to heal back maybe 3 hp (lol you got hit by a small fast projectile .1 second after healing now you lose 2 hp faggot). None of it is "skillful", it's all reaction based to what the game is fucking you with now. Genuinely never felt that experience in HK.
>>5415358845 or so tries at most on any boss. with one exception.I was struggling with the ant queen until I decided to stop being stupid and change my build, then beat her on the next try. everything else was not too hard, i'm happy with where it's at and I hope they don't nerf anything further. I understand that people that wanted easy mode hollow knight feel hoodwinked but the complete lack of difficulty in hollow knight was my one and only complaint and I am glad that got addressed. I wasn't expecting it at all. I was expecting silksong to by babycore just like hollow knight was and was presently surprised that it feels like a normal game that tries to build stakes and sense of anxiety.
>>541535005t. reapcel
>>541536652>5 or so tries at most on any boss.Only true on Act 3 and second half of Act 2, when you already have tons of power ups. Act 1 and early Act 2 fucking obliterated me, five masks is nowhere near enough for those bosses.
>>541536687Wanderer *is* easy mode thoIts good that TC enabled mouth breathers to play the game too
>>541536687reapgod
>>541535005>>541536687>>541536858Enough with samefagging. No one cares for you trying to start tribe wars on non-consequential shit.
>>541536520Aww, his image isn't getting (You)s anymore, so now he's getting more and more desperate. Cute
>>541537007we have more important things to argue about, like runbacks, 2 mask damage, and general artificial difficulty in SS
>>541535310>>541535493>>541535680>>541535697LIARS. YOU BROUGHT ME HERE TO KILL ME.YOU'RE WITH HIM!
>>541535953>>541536005>>541536621>>541536652Notice how all the post defending difficulty are always ME ME ME, they are incapable of comprehending that other people had a different experience with the game
>>541537646that's... not mt fay
>>541537646You need to go somewhere cooler
>>541537646that's not high enough up
>>541537646bro...
Is this just baiting me with the light or I need something else to get higher
>>541537771>>541537897ok im heading to the slab there was some snow up there and i got a quest for a wailing mother. it better have that key im missing to open up the rest of the prison
>>541537979that's a late game silk ability place to go
>>541537995It doesn't
>>541537979you need ability that you get in act 3
>>541537663that's an entirely double edged argument.
>>541538087>>541538113Good to know, place marked for later
>>541537979I spent like 8 minutes trying to jump up there as well as running around looking for some other path. it's a secret you can't get to yet.
>>541537860chat is this real?
>>541538254
pickled fuck faggot
>>541537860so disrespectful to the devs to post datamined content
>>541517315There, fixed it. It's now at parity with the other crests.
>>541538334I was legitimately expecting hornet to take off her cloak for the hot tub. Also I hate that beating heart
>>541538502Ugly
>>541538403>Doesnt know
Any recommended crest to beat that cheating piece of shit swift-stepping bug?>clawlineI do, but I only have three spools for the race (refilling my silk at the bench doesn't matter) and run out, thus having to wait for it to respawn.I'm at race three at the moment and keep losing momentum.
>>541539104do you want to see a cheese?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nyjPmRpqhg
>>541539104git gud
Tried using architect for the coral tower gauntletsIt was a mistake
>>541539104clawlinedashhit the guy whenever you canidk man
>>541538983I will take an ugly crest as long as I can rp as the ant people with their mask and all
>>541539104>swift-stepping bug
Now this is pod racing
>>541539104You can get a boost at the start if you hold down sprint down starting from second ding.
>>541539274it's what got me through, overdosing is such a fucking stupid cheese especially for those memory fights.
>>541540181Yeah I love the tool spam but I don't like it for dealing with flying cunts plus a lot of those gauntlets is pogoing on enemies and I'm too retarded for consistent diagonal pogoAlso the reaper silk regen after a heal is too good
>>541540336Reaper is god mode for Coral Tower
LL toolless reaper sufferer here. What's the play for the void projectiles that fire directly at you?In principle I am trying to make a beeline for the nearest wall the moment the black suns appear with the intention of wall climbing up and then jumping out in an arc so that they fire at the walls and up/out of the arena and then by the time I float down ideally they've passed. In practice I'm taking at least 2 hits every time they appear.
>>541526806I saw someone here saying that if you talk to the weary pilgrim before sherma does, then it disappears instead of getting haunted. Also someone else said Lumble (gambler guy) can survive, but I don't know.
>>541540751Walk straight in one direction. The projectiles don't track where you're going. Treat it like NKG's flame pillars attack if you've beaten him before.
>>541353687>Game Save Analyzer / Tacker:>https://silksong-completionist.com/Why should I upload my save (which likely contains personal data) into some dubious third-party server that can go down at any moment? Why offline tools can't exist nowadays???>but muh exe is muh virusfuck off
>>541540751evasive clawline maneuver
went back to hk to full radiant the hall of gods and man i missed mark of pride, longclaw doesn't even compare
I got spoiled about that prison arc shit where you are naked and shit but I just cleared the slab I think and I never got taken a prisonerKinda confused
Man I fucking love the laser gunShame I couldn't get a triple kill
>>541539952his name is literally swift
>>541541576I might be misremembering but couldn't you get both longnail and mark of pride with quick slash?
>>541541656you have to meet a wardenfly outside the slab and get captured. if you've entered the slab already through the citadel they'll disappear everywhere but the slab.there's one in deep docks near the air current room in hunter's march. take the bottom left exit from the air current room, go down the first exit you see, and look for an exit that needs wallclimb to reach.
>>541481972>>541508838Thanks anons. I beat him. It was enjoyable all in all
>>541541158I will give it a go cheers. >>541541505I've basically given up trying to hit her head on with Reaper without clawline or indeed do anything in this fight without clawline. With clawline I can get in, get a hit off and get out before she can parry but normal swings get parried every time. Safe pogo opportunities are the only time I can get a normal Reaper swing to land. Even my running away is clawline based.
>>541542107yes that's the meta nail build with unbreakable steength
I hope the inevitable SS Godmaster will include an infinite gauntlet where it's just randomized wave after wave after waveMaybe with an extra bullshit version where every few waves a main game boss shows up
>>541542642be you a maschoist?
>>541542642it'll have some sort of eternal ordeal like hk but not sure about the enemies, probably fleas
>>541542689Oh I know I wouldn't get very far in it but it would be cool to see the pros compete for new records
let's hear some ideas about making this game as cancerous as possible>sands of karak platforming but the platforms aren't only on a timer, they also move in randomized patterns>hunter's march but the gauntlet is entirely airborne with 2 mask damage spikes on the floor>getting hit by void attacks hurts 1 mask per second until you have 1 left, unless you bind>bilewater maggots don't just eat silk but HP too>tacks and traps hurt you too
>>541537663Notice how all the post complaining about difficulty are always ME ME ME, they are incapable of comprehending that other people had a different experience with the game
>>541544031>decrease entire game light values so that only the small circle around hornet is visible>every crest has hunter's diagonal pogo>every crest has wanderer's nail length, including shaman>axe the fastravel system, you must go on foot everywhere now>dying respawns you on the last town now (bone bottom, bellhart or last chapel) so runbacks can be even longer
>>541544031Chance of Snitch bugs stealing equipped tools when you take damage from one. Tools which look suspiciously similar (yet are allegedly distinct) can be purchased after a time at Grindle's shop for a mere 850 rosaries.
>>541544443yeah, but I am correct
>>541544642I like this idea because it gives more reason to wear the thief's mark outside of farming, and my boy Grindle deserves more rosaries anyway.
>>541544713uh-huh
>>541542120Do I wanna do that tho? Do I get something out of it, achivment, item? or is it just a fun side thing that can happen?
we must be better at games
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>>541545342perchance git gud?
>>541545304you get a line of text on your cloak saying it stinks of flythough it's the only way to access the slab in act 1, but there's really nothing to do there yet without double jump or key of apostate
>>541542642Nuu fight but you don't fight her and instead fight randomized groups of enemies, until you've cycled though your entire journal.
>>541544545>>decrease entire game light values so that only the small circle around hornet is visibleI got lost in HK1's Crystal mining area for ages. Without a map I wandered in circles
>>541541748>not camping those spawn pillars with charge attack readyDo you even game
>>541545814You can also get the "stinks of fly" removed when you get the Faydown Cloak
>>541554429Does it get removed in Citadel showers/spa?
>>541554750I don't know, I don't think I triedWould be a neat interaction
