Previous: >>541458149 >NewsVersion 2.3 Special Programhttps://youtu.be/uTWIK77TcdIAgent Record | Yidharihttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/40707205Agent Record | Komano Manatohttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/40688172Agent Record | Luciahttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/40687818 >Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character demohttps://youtu.be/jaxcn1kja9Y (EN)https://youtu.be/buGfCjPLaZc (JP)https://youtu.be/-m6kXWPwllshttps://youtu.be/QKJj_AUOMTY (EN)https://youtu.be/B42cNUVgzWU (JP)https://youtu.be/yVudzVUiBBQ (EN)https://youtu.be/pqOJai2C7S0 (JP) >Upcoming Events for 2.2https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/159176All-New Program 09/03 - 10/14Floral Voyage Into the Unknown 09/03 - 10/13Band of Brave Bangboo 09/05 - 10/13Wish Bottle Adrift 09/05 - 09/29Spotlight Showdown 09/13 - 09/29Advanced Bounty: Routine Cleanup 09/18 - 09/23"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/24 - 10/14Problem Soldier Boot Camp 09/24 - 10/09Rhythm Rave 09/29 - 10/13"En-Nah" Treasure Hunt 10/04 - 10/13Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/09 - 10/14 >Redeemable codes (claimable in-game or online)https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionZENLESSGIFTZZZ22OBOLSQUAD >Resources and useful linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friendshttps://interknot-network.com >/zzz/ OP pastebin (use this if making new thread): https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
Lost the pulls twice at soft pity trying to get Orphie M1 but got early wengine. This banner was not kind.
Bunny cunny!
Komano love!
yowhy are the chinese so hornyi thought they had laws against this kind of stuff
>>541506928my ass looks like that
>>541506927a drink? some snacks?
SCREAM IF YOU LOVE Anby Demara
>>541507052Proof?
So what will today's surprise be?
Why can't they let us find the treasure instead of telling us exactly where it is beforehand?
>>541507113ZZZ x Overwatch collab
>>541497665I planted a seed in a hopeful plot,Dreams on the rise, though the rain forgot.It started to grow, then came to a stop,The sprout tumbled down with a pitiful flop.
>>541506801Team red
>>541507062ora littlePRANKS
>>541485016Omg, Orphie! Hi!
Where's the female robot agent? Do we have to wait for Fairy to get a body?
>>541507094AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
>>541507252Yutane (idols never ever)
>>541507094https://youtube.com/watch?v=_a83fSZR2Ag&list=RD_a83fSZR2Ag&start_radio=1&pp=ygUONTQgY3ltcnUgYmVhdHOgBwE%3D
>>541507030Have you seen their male-to-female ratio?
>>541507252your Qingyi?
>>541507298>implying she won't spend 90% of her time in human form
>>541507252retard
>>541507252The second assistant is so lucky if it goes the EDI route
>>541507252It came to me in a dream
Thiren men should be both full furry and kemomimi, and thiren women should only be kemomimi.
>>541507030I heard somewhere there is a growing furry community in China in recent years so maybe thats why. Idk though.
>>541507306Bangboo
>>541507363It'll be 50 and niggers will argue ackshually it's 90% in robot form.
>male agents get to be badass>every female agent is a cringe loser or retarded autisti'm tired bros..
>>541507252Green Frieren.. forgotten.
What are your hopes and dreams for her?
For Orphie's two piece, I read posts saying that attack or crit is better than energy regen, can someone explain
>>541507529The best we can do is Eve. Take it or leave it
>>541507578complete redesign
I flopped BIGLY
>>541507094GYYYAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
>>541507578That she's not boring. That's as high as my standards go at this point.
>>541507529Except my wife, who is a cringe retard
>>541507578Hope she actually swings her sword. It'll be flying sword bullshit though.
2025I am... forgotten
>>541507529Yixuan is a badass.
>>541507578that they give away more pulls than normal during her patch, I need them for Banyue
>>541507515the fact that she won't be 100% in robot form is already disappointing
>>541507529Shifu is badass and makes all burgers seethe in fear of Chinese women.
Does Lemnian Hollow not have a "super ethereal" like >>541507693?We have just been fighting Exaltist slop>>541507761Banyue will be before her.
>>541507693Good, sneed flopped anyway and zzz is good as forgotten also
>>541507612Not going to pretend I'm an expert, but the logic probably goes that because her attack team buffs scales with ER, you can probably use the other discs to increase her personal damage and may outscale over time. This is probably more relevant if you have the engine though as without engine, you probably need as much ER you can get otherwise.
>>541507529This post is so blatantly wrong it could ONLY be an invitation to coom post, and i shall partake, she can crush my head with her monster thighs any day
Reminder that this our 2nd head character designer besides Waterkuma, who also used to work on Girl's Front Line and Azur Lane
Your opinion on Zenless Zone Zero?
>>541507578literally what are they thinking here? she's such a generic "le jade beauty". are really really just going to also slap "le must pull hunter" title on her and call it a day as far as trying to make her a big success goes?
>>541507805>Shifu is badassNo one says this
>>541507818No because it's safer.
This will save the game.
>>541507873Its fun
>>541507873
>>541507873i'm addicted
>>541507578I like Genshin but this character design should have stayed in Genshin.
>>541507873literally who
>>541507818>Banyue will be before her.that works too.
>>541507868Big if true. These are some of the most iconic characters in this game.
>>541507529Nicole, Koleda, Evelyn, Astra, Trigger, Yuzuha, Nekomata, Jane Doe, Rina, Qinyi, Zhu Yuannone of these are retarded autists or cringe weirdos
>>541507873I hate it and I love it for making me lose gallons
>>541507880They have been building up a subplot with her bro since 2.0.We just know so little about what he wants that's there's nothing to even speculate about the two.
>>541507805>Shifu is badassI say this
>>541507873Combat doesn't work without the red/gold flash tells because too much shit on the screen and off screen attacks
>>541507873flopping simulator
I'm still very concerned about Wormano potentially worming Lucia and Yidhari
>>541508106Yuzuha is just autisticNekomata is just a weirdo
>>541508259Lame. At least use photoshop for the shitpost
>>541507251Nice orph
>>541507868is there a list of who designed what? im sick of this waterkuma wank if he didnt even design miyabi or ellen.
>>541508169FVARK
>>541507868Koleda School Outfit when?
>>541508146>>They have been building up a subplot with her bro since 2.0.really? I don't remember anything about it
why did I lose the 50/50 for Orphie?
>>541507873I sincerely hope Qingyi gets ported to some other Hoyogame before they axe it.
>>541508169Neuvillette did it better.
>>541508235It's funny you mention that. Tower had me learn the moveset but the two I still hate is that fucking chunky bomber and the elite dog. I just don't fight the bomber enough times to commit it to memory so it randomly clips me in tower (which means like 40% of your health) and the fucking dog throws out hitboxes before it moves.
>>541508343Maybe they floated ideas around and worked together? These are old concept art.
The bara audience will save this game.
>>541507873it's good and keeps getting better
>>541508542banner will happen Just before the void hunter must roll
>>541507578Deredere shy teen.
>>541508434The buildup is Ye brother saying he's worried about his sister, then doing nothing about it until this past patch where they set his death flag.
>>541508434The current patch ends with him talking to Sarah, speedreader
>>541507868He also drew pic relatedhmmmm
>>541508235>>541508532Just turn off damage numbers and start using your ears instead of your eyes to react and it suddenly becomes way easier.To be honest, I don't try to parry in the tower unless I'm very, very familiar with the moveset.
It's outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHk51alNCzA
I like Seed, I like Orphie, I like Zenless Zone Zero
>>541508441it wasn't meant to be
>>541508704I see, that's fucking nothing.>>541508736he said 2.0, speedreader.
>>541508525PEOPLE OF FONTAINE... I'M GAY AND I FLOPPED...
>>541508612based enjoyer
>>541508441the game knows theres a character you want more, make it count.
>>541508434He basically means just he says "My sister is strong and is somewhere else." and you say "Wow I hope we get to meet her lol" or something.
>>541508761I kneel. Hes one of us.
>>541508770Is this game like DMC yet.
>>541507873I hate how the parry assist just decides to not work sometimes even when i have charge, the lock on camera can also fuck off with the insanely low angles, i'm trying to see what the fucking enemy is doing, i'll bust a nut to Evelyns perfect ass later
>>541509007>has a jump buttonI guess you could say it is
>>541507578Kichidere. It won't happen, but I would enjoy it
>>541507868
>>541485016https://x.com/waterkuma0/status/1974400745836622310>Waterkuma may be outWaterkuma has been posting on his Twitter account againand has designed a character for an Indie gamethis may mean he's no longer working for Mihoyo
>>541509072Vivian's the closest you will get to that
>>541509126artists often work on multiple games because it turns out you don't need to be drawing 24/7 especially as a concept designer
>>541508898>spend time(granted, not much) with one character>turns out he dies and the rollable one is a female related to himthat's almost Seed-like, tough definitely a lot more obvious this time
>>541507873Hollow Zero? It's a fun are. I haven't played it much.
>>541509180I do not care for vivian though. Not a fan of her design
>>541509052But like... are there combos and do you press more than one button during combat or is it just left-click spam?
>>541507252end of 2.0
>>541509264Fufu what does that say I don't read nipnong.
>>541509264The moon runes. What do they say?
>>541509208Difference is absolutely no one gives a shit about glasses nigga.
>>541509286>mfw her kit description is as long as the Illiad but is just push EX and swap out
>>541509208I doubt he's dying since he shows up in events.He'll probably be the villain of a patch due to Sarah's manipulation and get forgiven.
>>541507693destiny 2 ass fucking bossbig slow moving sack of hp with massive aoe stomps and homing missles
>>541509326>>541509348
>>541509375why do you people preemptively imagine things up and then get mad about themthis is not healthy
>>541509375the fuck are you talking about we don't even have a model for her yet let alone a kit
>>541509382no he fucking DIES and his sister inherits the sword you forget this game ISNT genshin and we've had so many complaining zzz killed off so many unique model npcs
>>541509362He has way more art than his sister
>>541509382Why would appearing in events stop them???
>>541509478I was right when I shitposted Ghostfire would be off field.
>>541509460>Everyone do it!Well if you say so Fufu>Unzips pants
Ye Shunguang will get the Qingming Sword (my penis)
Zzz peak.
>>541509382Imagine redeeming a nothing character like Ye and killing off Isolde instead. Would really cement the ZZZ writer team as complete fucking hacks.
>>541509519Because the only thing we've seen of the sister is her back until now. But you can't seriously tell me there are any organic fans of his and aren't just male character copers. Seed at least had real mechafag fans.
>>541509519Of course he does. He's been out longer.
God I am going to laugh so hard if Ye Shunguang sells average.
ZZZ has the immaculate ability to make non-HoYo artists began drawing fanart.
>>541509202Then why now? This game is well-known for its visuals, and Waterkuma is the most well-known artist from this game. Logically he would've been swamped with work since a year ago.
Rata puta
>>541509627Isolde killed millions. Ye had to do a lot of shit to come close to her bodycount
Seed and Orphie didn't flop, everyone just had enough pulls saved from skipping Fufu and Alice.
>>541509880Vivian sex
>>541509993Belle...
>>541509821They should have released this girl as an A-Rank, huge missed opportunity
>>541509780Hoyo commission fund hard at work
>>541509993Whether you want to or not
I am literally in love with Yixuan
Last birthday post for best boi Lycaon. Hope he had a very good one.
I get why Seed flopped but why did Orphie flop?
>>541509859
>>541509798>>541509126>draws concept art for 1 indie game>omg waterkuma is firedYou're such a faggot.
>>541509967Clankers owe me sex.
>>541510191the main incentive to get her is to use her together with Seed
>>541510191The second banner never does better than the first.
>>541510249That's Clanka to you fleshbag, you are not granted the pass
>>541510191Obol just sucks in general desu
>>541510289
>>541510226If Waterkuma was never a ZZZ-exclusive, we would have already seen him work on countless games since a year ago. He would've done concepts for 10 other games.
>>541510364I don't remember saying anything about an unrelated game.
>>541510191seed's flopping aftershock
>>541510340My best friends are clankers, I got the pass.
Seed giga flopped
>>541509126I hope Ananta takes Waterkuma just like they took the Belle cosplayer
>>541510191Off fieldNiche as fuck aftershock supportThey took Seed's afterschocks away so now she only REALLY works for Anby + Trigger. The devs are fucking dumb man.
>>541510364Which wuwa character is this?
Morally speciaking, isn't Shifu obligated to find a nice, big tiger Thiren to impregnate Fufu and preserve the species? Why is she not acting on it? Fufu's eggs are rotting as we speak.
>>541510598>isn't Shifu obligatedNo.
>>541510421Trigguh wife
>>541510598She's saving Fufu for me.
>>541510478>Seed gi- [machine prediction using AI]
>>541510425Just kill yourself.
>>541507868If he made all those characters in pic related, then I dare say the second guy (atwo?) is my favorite character designer on the team, because those are some of my favorite character designs.
B
>>541510581Millions gooned that day
>>541485016>no playable shotas>no futas, no traps>no salaryman self insertdefend this rn
>>541510598She's already saved the species
zzz sure has a lot of older ladies that aren't bearing children even though it's technically an apocalypse situation
>>541510750>Not an exclusive>Only two jobs over the course of one yearI guess he was never a big deal after all.
>>541510850goodgoodmc is a video store owner
>>541510782They censored Lucia's underboobs, will Guang get to keep hers?
>>541510883lack of hung shotas means they have no sex drive
>>541510853how did she save the species with a gay boy
>>541510883or that the universe does not follow normal rules and can live a long timewe already know soukaku is the oldest girl
>>541510885He gained a sort of cult-of-personality because, for a lot of lonely and fragile pedos, he is the only other pedo they know about.
>>541510750
>>541510928Wouldn't be surprised if that was the real reason for Lucia's change. So Ye would have underboob alone
>>541510771>>541510982Yeah it turns out people have been overrating Waterkuma. Crediting him for Billy and all.
>still keeping up the "waterkuma was fired" narrative after over a year>Dialyn, a typical waterkuma-designed character is revealed>doomposters attempt to convince us she isn't his work to keep up the narrativeI love you for being an endless source of entertainment, /zzz/
What does she know?
>>541510598There's gotta be a law about that
Why do people make such a big deal about some blacked faggot?
>>541510982
>>541510598It is irresponsible to let Fufu keep fighting and risking her life. She should be serving her people as breeding stock.
>>541511073That you're brown
>>541511073that your dick is smal
>>541511061People refuse to believe Waterkuma made Dialyn because no way the same person who made Nicole would be capable of designing such an abomination. In a way it's a sign of respect for Waterkuma.
>>541511093>why do people care about the one who designed 1.0 characters
>>541510850I like hags, hebes, lolis, twinks, hunks, robots, and kemonos. But every time you add shotas to a game, a despicable community seems to follow them.
The C-level mats I grinded yesteday was enough to bring Billy from level 56 to level 57.>>541432576>>541449472>>541461326Hard work is paying off. This is great for F2P who can't afford the battlepass.
What are Waterkuma's "trademarks"?
>>541509362>>541509631I'm not a "fan" or a "male character coper" but I am interested in him specifically because they went out of there way to reveal barely any info about him. We know he has a sister and he has some sort of issue sleeping and learned how to pick herbs because of it. Not trying to say this is amazing writing or anything but isn't this tantalizingly little info for a main member of a faction in which a whole chapter is based on? He's there pretty much all the time but anything he does is done offscreen. He's even in this cool "we're about to face the final boss" dutch angle shot only for him leave and go off screen again and Shifu literally tells us not to worry about him because he's competent enough to handle going off on his own. Imagine if Anton wasn't playable throughout the whole Belobog story despite him being around in every cutscene. That would definitely make me wonder what his deal is.Anyway, him being tempted by the dark side is kinda dumb to me but I'm more interested in him than I am his sister since they revealed her to just be a shortsword wielding Genshin medium height model character.
>>541511027Lucy is obviously Waterkuma's, though, and she's probably my favorite design alongside Billy.
>>541511384Credits where it's due, obviously. But now we know he was only responsible for some of the good designs, not all of them.
>>541511314Amazing design that has some random word put somewhere for no reasonExample: Yixuan
>>541511356I commend your continued faith in the writing, if nothing else.
Plus>>541511274I also have excess 612 exp mats for w-engine, with this stash I never have to pay energy/battery for engine-exp down the line, the aerospace city is very generous about this particular mat.
>>541511235>let's make a girl that's themed around pandas in ZZZ>she's not a fucking panda thirenwhat the fuck?
This bitch should be gang raped
>>541511579Rajesh go fuck a cow already
>>541511579This but married instead
I haven't played since that event where you get a free Lucy from running a diner, what am I in for if I start a new account now
I still haven\t reached floor 100 of base tower
I've never done the tower.
>>541511556They already wasted the Panda thiren making Pan Yinhu an uncool off-field agent instead of a cool on-field martial artist.
>>541511797You get chromosomes for rolls
>>541511314>>541511507>Dialyn>DIALING>has a phone on her back
Ban Yue confirmed the powerful calm martial artist that has an angry side that the devs were talking about. Confirmed S rank?
I see why people hate Shepard.
>>541511862That looks like an A-Rank W-Engine she's wearing.
>>541511862>>541511919Surely there's no way she's not A-rank
>>541511507>>541511862Sorry I asked.
>>541511902>hate ShepardI miss the guy
>>541511981anon...
>>541511902But his suit and tie combo provide a daily dose every time he shows up.Also where the fuck has Shepard been?
>>541511314
>>541511741current patch is very skippable but these are the characters for the next 2-3 patches so see if you like any of themI'd keep the old account honestly even if you're at 0 tapes
>>541512023He's been chilling with Officer Mewmew, Venus, General Chop, Heddy, etc.
>>541511314black dick
>>541511902If we can flirt with Venus, why can't we do the same with Shepard?
>>541512023>Also where the fuck has Shepard been?Stuck in my store because I haven't done the final rank up yet.
>19sShifu is so fast!
So of the two character designers in ZZZ and going off artstyles of previously revealed concept artAtwo designed: Ellen, Miyabi, Billy, Lycaon, Ben, Soukaku, Koleda, Anton, Yuzuha, Yidhari, Burnice, TriggerWaterkuma designed: Nicole, Anby, Nekomata, S11, Harumasa, Corin, Lucy, Caesar, Piper, Qingyi, Zhu Yuan, Alice, Angels of DelusionWaterkuma bros.... I think we lost
>>541512185FVARK, imagine if Lucia was there
>>541512048What a nice ZHAOZHAO
>>541510750>Waterkuma got hired to design the original cast then got told to fuck offI predict everything Vivian going forward was not Waterkuma
>>541512202who's guilty of yixuan's design?
>>541511164>>541511184>That you're brown>that your dick is smalWell which one is it?
>>541512327me
>>541512327Whoever designed her wins the duel
>>541512297>>>
>>541512297>hand clipping into sleeve cuff during a cinematic
>>541512128I miss Heddy. I hired her all the time until someone told me that you get free skill up materials from using characters instead.
>>541512202Atwo clears Waterkuma
>>541512327Z.Y.L
>>541512412>>541512475
Post Fufu!
I really fucking hate how little we interact with the community of Waifei outside of the story. Plenty of unique NPCs in their own right and we just don't ever get to know them.
>>541512202I like Atwo's designs more and think they set the tone of ZZZ better. But I still like Lucy, Piper, Anby, and Nicole.
>>541512202Atwo > WaterkumaHis ZZZ designs show a wider range of design skill.
>>541509627I still can't belive they didn't at least use her design on an A rank
>>541512202Waterkumafags were gassing this??
>>541512202How the hell did he fuck up Yidhari so hard when the rest of those designs range from good to great?
Why did they model the fat cats' anuses and testicles??? Bizarre dev behavior
>>541513024How else will you know which ones a boy and which is a girl at a glance?
>>541512202I like... almost everyone. My favorites are on both sides. I want more from both of them. Everyone from 1.0 to the sons of calydon update are all perfect including the guys.
>>541512202I like Waterkuma a sliver more because SoC is my favorite faction
Dialin' Dialyn!
Grace no! that's the wrong game!
>>541512982yidhari has grown on me but idk if i'll ever get over lucia. soooo fucking much they could have done with a mage/witch style design
Today's Ether Canister route went like this.Grabbed all 5 Elite mobs.Grabbed all Ether Canisters for the day.
>>541513194So is she Krampus' receptionist? What is she doing in hollows?
>>541512982He was dealt a bad hand. No matter what he did the nun would have been superior. It just sucks the nun design was pissed away.
>>541513418it would have been forgivable if Yidhari didnt also reuse the nun's animations.
I can't believe he was right.
>>541513354based grindGOD
>>541512546bnnuy SOVL
>>541513418I didn't even like the nun and I still think Yidhari is awful. Just an abject downgrade in quality compared to Rina, whose design isn't exactly novel but is nonetheless far better executed.
Not super excited for her, but she's support so gotta pull. At least she has a great ass.
>>541512982Zhenyu Li forced his will upon him
>>541513609>she's support so gotta pullI hate this shit.
>>541513667Increasingly I'm coming to the conclusion that Zhenyu Li needs to have his shins broken so Atwo and Waterkuma can work unmolested.
>>541513689I'm only miffed that there are no good engines for her because muh rupture muh HP
>>541513689Astra was the beginning of the end when it came to that. I hate supports mostly on the principle because they barely contribute anything besides "Number go up". Quite unironically Lucy and Yuzuha atleast have something going for them, but i'm never pulling another Support solely out of spite.
>>541513829Lucy is cool, her boars are funny and she has one of the best designs in the game. I would rather use her and Lucia's over the top flashy shit.
>>541513823Her sig :)
We haven't had an anomaly character for a while I think Dialyn will be electric anomaly. However the game needs to make defenders useful rupture characters should have used defenders like attackers used stunners especially being HP manipulators like Yidhari maybe we will see synergy like Zhongli and Hu Tao.
>>541513609>but she's support so gotta pullI skipped Miyabi, I skipped Yixuan, and I will skip Lucia.Fuck meta, fuck optimal teams, give me cool designs and fun gameplay.I like Miyabi visually but hate how she plays. I hate Yixuan visually but like how she plays. Neither were worth a roll.I have over 500 rolls as a f2p and will probably be unloading on Zhao if she's fun to play.
>>541513689then you'll love it when she inevitably flops regardless of how broken the kit is
>>541513949
>>541513917This is why everyone loves Anomaly. They can all use weeping gemini and do just fine.
>>541513983Wtf are you me?
>>541513903Lucy's design is mid af
>>541514069I don't know, are you also planning to roll on Banyue? Because maybe, if so.
>>541513194>>541513370I'm not really sure how to feel with the recent Obol squad members and then the Krampus members following them. I feel like a military squad and top level cooperate executives should be straight laced adults but instead Obol Squad has two autistic children and Krampus seems to be getting two more children. I feel like it worked for Belobog because the whole story of the faction is that the adults are there to support and do the heavy lifting of the company despite the kid being the boss. Here, I'm just supposed to believe that Seed managed to pass any sort of basic training and was admitted into the military on the word of one robot and that Krampus corp's executive businesswoman is a child sized bunny because... it's funny i guess????
>>541514006Only 30% better than Panda with her sig doesn't seem all that great really. I was actually expecting her to do some decent damage so you can play her while your Rupture agent regens adrenaline, but her dps is Astra level lol
>>541514124I was kinda hoping Zhao would be a bit ruthless. Not a cute cuddly carebear.
>>541512202We saw concept art of Miyabi, Soukaku and Harumasa all together meaning they had the same designer. The same goes for Burnice, Lucy and Caesar who are all waterkuma characters.
>>541514124>>541514225Zhao in 2.2 gave me bugs bunny vibes
>>541512094Whatever happened to the idols the pedos were excited for
>>541514124It makes more sense for Krampus because they're just powerful individuals employed by TOPS to act as troubleshooters, and people with extremely valuable talent can get away with a lot of idiosyncracies in the business world. Zhao isn't a suit, she's a corporate executioner.Makes a lot less sense with Obol, though. Half of their members act more like children than soldiers, and one of the actual soldiers has traumatic brain damage.
>>541514225There's nothing that says she won't also be competent. She plays up her cuteness because it's obvious to take advantage of it.
>>5415140162.4 is four banners away from 2.1 the wait between Vivian and Miyabi was also four banners.
>>541514225The brief interaction we've had with Zhao gave me the impression of trickster who carries a loaded gun for when the tricks stop working.
>>541514337end of 2.x or chinese new year
>>541511887Does no one care about him or what
>>541514337delayed too long and people lose interest and quit
>>541513609>At least she has a great ass.I mean everyone has a nice ass in this game, even lolis.
>>541513609The more I've seen of her the less I care that she's support. Unless her story and character are super interesting, I don't think I'll pull at all. And I doubt they'll make her that interesting in a patch where manato is the main character and then they'll never mention Lucia again. My rolls are better saved for more relevant and more sexy characters
To the people who watched the livestream, what are you thoughts of the possibly upcoming non-proxy m/f shipWe see that the story will be focused on Yidhari, Lucia and Monato and honestly, I'm kinda seeing smth going on with Monato x Lucia. Thoughts?
>>541514623Anon, pretty sure most expect him to be the S-rank they were talking about.
Left or right? Just an attack and crit difference
banyue will flop
>>541513949> Yuzuha, the anomaly support> Alice, the 2nd best anomaly agent only behind Miyabi by technicality > Both released right before the current patchSeriously?
>>541514623I care, and it was already pointed out. There's just nothing to discuss further until more details or his animations come out.
>>541514623I care but after Seed I'm not trusting any robot design until they officially reveal it
>>541513354Today's Lumite Ore route went like this.Grabbed 11 Elite mobs.Grabbed all Lumite Ores for the day.
>>541514681Why did you copy-paste this post again? With Manato's name misspelled still.
>>541514760...his dick on my face!
>>541514643Manato being the main character of 2.3 is funny to me. I like him and hope the patch is fun, but it's such a weird design choice when they no only released him as an A-Rank but are also giving away a copy of him away for free.I guess the devs like him, seeing as he already featured in 2.0 and 2.1, while Alice isn't even going to show up in 2.3 and Yuzuha only has around ten voice lines. But you'd think they'd want to shill the S-Ranks on the patch's banners.
>>541514770The only role that we haven't seen for as long is defence.
>>541514623Like the other guy said. I probably will roll for him on the premise of him being a martial artist robot. No offense to Pan because he's chill but I'm not really interested in a kung fu panda and I didn't watch any of the movies either.
>>541507030porn is illegal so theyre all pent upevery chinese social media is 70% horny posting
>>541514928Defense is a death sentence. Pan's only getting away with it because there isnt a better rupture support yet
>>541514623I care, it's just not really news because I think most people already expected him to be that particular S-Rank after the reveal trailer came out.He's a cool punching robot and I'm psyched for it.
Your devs are creatively bankrupt.
>>541515083Is this supposed to be Raiden?
>>541515083Banyue is nothing like Hakumen.
>>541515038it doesn't have to be, if Yidhari had super armour instead of invulnerability they could have sold Lucia as a defence character who shielded too.
>>541515083It's called homage when it's cool.
>>541515056>>541514798>>541515056The trailer also said that he will be a powerful main dps, so there is some logic in thinking that Shungus won't be a main dps right?
>>541514928I don't know why the devs just didn't make defenders the default 3rd class to pair with rupture's and give them healing or special interactions with shields. This would have helped flesh out standard team builds and solidified the use case of the class:> Attack / Stun / Support> Anomaly/ Anomaly / Support> Rupture / Stunner / Defender
>>541515083Other than the white hair I'm not seeing it. They don't even have the same build, face, or fighting style. Is it just "humanoid robot with spiky white hair?" Because Billy looks more like pic related than Banyue does.
>>541515083FGO did it first though.
>>541515249It could be a Mibibi/Harumasa situation too, being DPSes but for different teams. Or an entirely different niche altogether, they can introduce new mechanics anytime like Ether Veil.
>>541515083>>541515169>>541515312Why the fuck does anyone think these are the same? Just because they're buff and armored with long white hair?
>>541514918The devs are retarded. It would be frustrating for upper management really to watch these idiots throw money away
>>541515285That would have worked, attackers all give attack and Pan gave sheer force they could have updated defenders to give sheer force but instead made Lucia a support who only gives sheer force and can't be used for attackers like Yuzuha.
>>541515285And by special interactions with shields, I mean the rupture class gets a mega benefit from shields like allowing them to convert the shield granter's defense into their sheer force value or some shit
>>541515407He doesn't. He's shitposting because people like something he doesn't.
>When hoyo it's le fine>When kuro does it it's not le fineNoticing the hypocrisy like always.
>>541515381Ether Veil barely seems like a mechanic. They're treating a team-wide buff like it's supposed to be something novel, when we've had tons of characters doing that already.
>>541515492That's crazy, dawg. You should go complain to /wuwa/.
>>541515492I'm confused why some people insistently want to talk about non-Zenless games in the Zenless thread. I don't go to the WuWa general to talk about Zenless, why do you come here to talk about WuWa?
>>541515506I hate they are covering the corners of the screen with glowy shit
>>541515506I agree, I just mean the devs can easily drop some bullshit anytime they feel like, if only to further compartmentalize team building.
>>541515429Hell, they could even make defenders main gimmick be about reflecting damage back to the opponent on defensive assists. Since ruptures have a smaller multiplier compared to attackers, they would benefit from an extra source of damage
>>541515506Lucy has been doing it from the start.
>havnt done my weeklies>havnt done any of the events>monthly sub expire in 2 days>just log in to do daily already feel like a chore I think this is it
>>541515686It would be different if the Ether Veil was like a large dome on the ground you wanted to try and keep enemies inside, because that would be unique at least.But I'm pretty sure people would also hate that. Just an example of something that would actually merit calling it a new mechanic.
>>541515745If Zhao and Banyue disappoint then I'm done.
>>541515201after Pan, you don't even need a shield to be a Defense agent. Its essentially a dumping ground for designs that don't quite fit their actual roles.
>>541515745Was the same for me, I dropped the game after the stream
>>541515745You are still missing one step, leaving this general.
>>541515745>>541515837I've been playing Cookie Run while I wait for the next meaningful content drop in ZZZ. Know the feeling, bros.
>>541515745you're a nobody no need to announce your departure
>>541515882this general is unironically the last thing keeping me to this game
>>541515860Pan Yinhu 100% fit the Support design scheme because he was a buffer and healer whose EX skill provided a reliable quick-assist. I'm convinced they only made him a Defender because he's a bear.
>>541515929yes that is the whole point of being an anonymous
I would unironically pay money for some of you to uninstall and leave the general
There's a new magic window at HIA for any coomersJust gotta hope it survives long enough to bibi skin release
>>541516106They don't even need to uninstall. Just leave the general
>>541514867Today's High Entropy Alloy route went like this.Grabbed 8 Elite mobs.Grabbed all Alloys for the day.I imagine it's just a question of time, and eventually I know where to teleport to without double checking with the map.
>>54151610670% of posters on all hoyo generals don't play the games and are just there for shitposting
>>541510581wait who was that at the end
>>541515745I took a break from jufufu to seednothing wrong with leaving for a bit anon, this isn't a job
>>541516019We'll get a polar bear thiren one day and he'll also be defense, just watch.
i'm tired of doomposting and feeling badi want nice feelings
>>541516275Clearly some tragic figure in Pulchra's past who is part of the reason she has trouble trusting anybody now.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE SURPRISE?????????
If only there was a cool Panda to play as
>>541516407jack off to Evelyn's butt
>>541512202where did this headcanon come from?
>>541516275A random worker that happens to look like pulchra's friend, who betrayed her
where is this game
>>541516420yeah but has she mentioned her oncebecause SoC arc is already over
>>541516428That you still play this game lol
>>541516442For a people who loved Kung Fu Panda, they sure didn't want to make Pan Yinhu feel good or relevant to play.
>>541516428Here it is *unzips*
>>541512202what about jane?
>>541513609so youre a soulless metafag that will not only encourage more shitty designs like this but powercreep as well, got it.
>>541516530>hollows then>if you go in you can easily get lost and die>hollows now>place where monsters spawn
>>541516530Budget cut after multiple flops will do that to you
>>541516530Back in 1.0-1.3.
If Lucia "flops" then this game is over and it is a sign people are just quitting the game.
>>541516297You missed the best patch in months and came back for one of the worst
>>541516637there's literally nothing we can do when chink players hold all the power
>get rid of TV mode>hollows become theme parksYippee
>>541516643>school trip to the hollow>9-5 job in the hollow>lets protest inside the hollow
>>541516637I would pull a literal shit if it boosted my Shifu's performance
>>541515745I took a break after Trigger's first run to 10 days before 2.0. The time away from the game made it fresh enough that I even did a bunch of side story shit and ended up getting four characters in a row and was pretty ahppy for a while.I might take a break again after 2.3 and who knows if I come back or not.
Vivian is genuinely one of the worst hoyo characters ever created
>>541515745>An ugly copy pasta of Yixuan+Ganyu>An ugly copy pasta of Yixuan+Octopus hag>A chinese meme turned into a character>A bunny furry thing>A homo robot thing>Sparkly+fox VHIf you didn't quit after the last stream then idk what to say bro, already sold my day 1 account.
Is it safe to say that Isolde is ZZZ's Signora?
>>541516927i think shes cringe too, but one of the worst? why do you say that
>>541517050NoSignora peaked during Genshin's peak. Isolde came while ZZZ is already going down hill.
who else disc inventory look like thiswhat am i supposed to do
>>541517149Because he's a schizo
>>541507578Send her back to HRT
>>541507578She looks so boring. Her outfit is so boring. Her tail is so dumb.Even her sword looks dumb.
>>541517168I just mark for discard any disc that isn't 3 good substats at this point
>>541517340That's not the sword she will have when we get her. She will have the qingming chingchong sword
>>541517168theyre all lvl 0 wtf are you doing man
>>541517168Me
>>541516428The surprise was Ye Shunguang bwo
Yuzuha!What do you think of her?
PLEASE FIX THE DEFENDER CLASS THEY'RE LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
>>541507873It used to be good with potential, dunno why they dropped the ball
>>541516428
>>541517692>0 fanartFor their sake, I hope it wasn't.
>>541517709cutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecute
>>541517712Imagine Ben and Seth buffs...
>>541507578I like her boobs. They really need to remove the fabric in the middle.
>>541517709I love Nicole and Yuzuha so much
>>541517712They have no clue what to do with it, other than make it support that presses EX and swaps out. I like the anon's idea of some sort of special defense assist that counters.
>>541517168Scrap disks with shit substats?For example scrap all anomaly ones that don't have both attack% and AP.
>>541485016>Do not repost
>>541517854smug is justice
>>541517893but what if it gets a good 4th stat
>>541517935Wtf
>>541507578I hope she isn't rupture and uses Astra or Yuzuha as a support because I don't want to pull Lucia.
>>541517956It won't.You need to learn to let go.
>>541518042I choose Bibi
>>541517935blush looks bad and lipstick looks even worse
>>541497665
>>541518068no it's cute
>>541517935>Perfect wife d...ex...
>>541517956No where on planet earth has someone levelled a shit disc and got a lucky +4 on the hidden stat. You've got a better chance of winning the lottery
>>541518239Eww
Tip for maps that feature both Ethereal elites and Hollow Raider elites, such as the Logistics Storage are.Problem: Ethereals sometimes leave behind phyical bodies, you cannot get exp mats rewards until these bodies decompose into Miasma, and this takes waiting time.Solution: Take care of the Ethreal Elites first, then while they decompose, you can take care of the Hollow Raider elites.Hence I made a mistake here>>541514867I should have done Route 9 before Route 8.
>>541517956Level 3-6 then scrap
>>541517956the 4th stat is +4 DEF
>>541518290Bro, nobody is going back to these zones after the story, one run through to collect all the shit and any events.
>>541518290Proxy...
>>541517709MSGK
>>541518290Sorry Anon I respect the effort but this is autistic and just not worth the time for the shitty rewards
>>541517709I like her best friend Alice
>>541514124They aren't executives. Krampus isn't a company they are the division of TOPS that make and enforce the rules. They are there to discipline bad actors in the alliance. Besides being smol Zhao comes off more like a cartoon rabbit than a child design wise.>>541514225Zhao has more of a wolf in sheep's clothing deal to her. She may look cute and cuddly and seams friendly enough to her allies, but it is made clear she shouldn't be trifled with. Execs are wary of her because when she shows up they know the fucked up with TOPS. Zhao warns you not to get on her bad side. When you talk to Zhao on the beach she is mostly unaffected by Lucro dying to a Sacrifice. It's a minor inconvenience at most. It is implied that there was a chance Zhao was gonna kill Lucro herself if deemed a necessary punishment.
>>541518260uh
>>541518290>Mibibi's least autistic day
>>541518493Zamn
what if yuzuha had those parted bangs that exposed her smoochable forehead
Any chance of early drip again?
>>541518594Cute
Zhao....
>>541518594I would date bald Yuzuha
>>541518493Atk% and Cdmg is good. By shit disc I meant nothing but, hp, hp%, def, def%
When I first started this game, I thought we'd be following The Cunning Hares throughout various hi-jinx. Like how they were present for Chapter's 2 and 3. I was looking forward to seeing Nicole handle the vision case in-depth. I wonder if they had planned to have The Cunning Hares steadily growing in members while following them around before pivoting to more contained stories?
>>541518635What she wants?
>>541518594really gives off that Mean Girls/smug vibe huhwait maybe she looks a little bit too much like a bullyBROS WHAT IF SHE WAS ACTUALLY MEAN BUT GOOD SPIRITED INSTEAD OF JUST A TEASE
>>541518741Nicole doesn't want to go to stinky Chinatown.
>>541518635Zoan body, Model ZhaoZhao
>>541518769magus is that and was a breath of fresh air
>>541518635She is in heat
>>541518769she was pretty mean to Alice at first and that kid that was picking on her sister.
>>541518867I wonder if the TV guys got canned or are working on some other shit in Hoyo
>>541518136she literally looks better without it
>>541518896Bad Rat
>>541518867TVgods...
>>541506927Perfection
>>541518867arpeggio fault was so fucking shit. just like the rest of tv mode.
>>541518867Based
still surpised there are no horror games that alice would be forced to play
>>541519015Alice would say the N word on the gamer bridge and get cancelled
Is Orphie + Sanby really that strong or its just because they’re being gigashilled
>>541519112Both
>>541507578>DreamsMore fanart
>>541518239Ye is so pretty...
yuzuha and alice kissing eachother rnsuper hot
holy FVARK i just remembered this guy's themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqy3NHwuFVk
>>541518867>Play action game>Absolutely obsess over a grid minigame that actively takes away from that premise.I'm pretty sure this is a similar kind of mental illness to getting absolutely suckered into crafting or other sort of other dead end pursuit in MMO's or games where you do autistic little tidbits of irrelevant bullshit along the rest of the game. TV should have always been a slight novelty over making hours and hours of slop with it.
>>541519259its rude to stare, manato
>>541517709my cousin looks like her
>>541519302stroking as i watch btw
>>541518756She wants you to stop breaking the rules!
[late night komacchi hours]
>>541519272I love Bleach osthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO_532nbu0c
TV mode feels like an old version event rather than a gameplay feature now that it's been like a year since it died
What was the surprise...
I love Yuzuha
When do I get to see BBC (Big Billy Cock)?
>>541519462we need a sword character with bankai release https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcUCMQIKz0
>>541519648>Artisti know what you are.. <3
>>541517050Signora was introduced much earlier Isolde is a Cocolia, Sarah will be the Signora if she dies.
KEKY-POW
>>541517168Use them all to get 1 good disk (2 if you're lucky)
>>541519639
>miyabi>soldier 11>komano>anby>alicewtf... we have barely any sword characters
>>541519862>skip patch right aftertheyre so kind
>>541519890shiza has a sword...
>>541519983Grace vs Banyuewho wins?
>>541519886
>>541520048She is cute
>>541520258Vivi cute
>>541507482Kek
>>54152025810 more days until bibi takes all my rolls
>>541520371Imagine...
>>541518419>>541518389>>541518521>>541518462>not worth the time for the shitty rewardsYesterday I earned>>541511274Today I earned even more thanks to better route planning. Pic related.Billy is now level 58, and I don't have to use HIA for exp mats anymore.
>>541507030chinese aren't allowed porn so they're all desperately gooning to softcore, furry is a massive growing fetish since theres an insane ammount of furry porn, especially western which is the only way the can access goon material is western hosted sites.
>>541520371I hate this general for tricking me into lusting for bunnies.
When are they increasing inter-knot level?
>>541520461You need HIA
I kinda wish that nagger's parry follow up special EX was actually in the gamehell I'd even design a defender who builds up a meter and actually does damaged based on how much meter is built up instead of the anomaly gimmick
>>541520461based
>>541520489unf... fufu..
>>5415205193.0
>>541520537I want Jane Ex upgrade from hz
>>541511061the mizubear doomkek posts are the funniest shit, which retards are falling for this?i garuntee miHoyo is paying him an insane ammount of money to stay aboard and do concept art for them.
>>541520489>chinese aren't allowed porn so they're all desperately gooning to softcoreI assume this only applies to the Chinese normies that are afraid or don't know about VPNs right?
>>541511314white women/lolis with very americanized designsenglish words on everything he was hired specifically because of how good he drew western cartoon anime white women and loli for this urbanized game (asians didn't invent urban-core aesethic westerners did)
>>541520489They can easily access porn despite it being illegal it's not a like the south Korea gynocracy where it's super puritan.
>>541520891>english words on everythingyidhari is a waterkuma design confirmed
>Reading the Yidhari lore snippets on Hakushin>"Yidhari's life was a living hell">"...Until she met you."Can we please, PLEASE stop with this shit? I am so sick of this For You pandering shit. It's a gacha, they can't make the characters have any romantic interests or natural relationships because the playerbase would scream NTR and burn Mihoyo's offices down. Ergo, there's no reason why EVERY CHARACTER needs to suck you off and treat you like Christ. Miyabi was cute with the fiancee stuff but already pushing it, and then Vivian was an absolute clusterfuck of characterization to the point she ended up being flanderized as a simp. Stop, please. Characters that are just good friends to us like Nicole are more than enough.
>>541521042It's been more of a trend for someone like Daisuke Ishiwatari and Arcsys team since the Guilty Gear heydays, so i sort of see it as a homage from the ZZZ artists, whoever they are.
>>541520774Most people aren't actively trying to break the law, especially considering how much of an open secret it is when it comes to the CCP black bagging citizens.>>541520947The part has an OFFICIAL ban on all pornography in China, and only legality skirting materials are allowed in a limbo state. VPNs or accessing sites not banned through the Firewall is the 1# way Chinese access porn is western sites, Sad Panda and E621(furry, scalie, monster girls) are some of the biggest hentai/porn rehosting sites that Chinese people access along with Pixiv, and the Boorus. I swear half of you who post here at 16 with no idea how things actually work in China.
>>541521186>the ZZZ artists, whoever they arewaterkuma
>>541521172huh, she does that shit too? we're barely even in her social circle, how the fuck does she get attached to us
>>541521189Waterkuma can draw lolis getting blacked and still work a professional job meanwhile KR hentai artists are on the run from their government who will try to dox and prosecute them.
>>541520048Is there art of her actually being stepped on?
>>541521291It's almost like there's a story patch coming out soon that will explain that.
>>541521291>her life was hell.. until she met you!and the "meeting" is one evening lolin a couple months we're back to sixth street, then what? we just abandon her or something
>>541521296>Random mindbreak whataboutism about the slopesI don't give a fuck about the gooks, we were talking about Chinese laws and regulations since this is CN game thread.Fuck off with your insecure gook comparisons, Blue Archive exists.
>>541521391No, but i still have mad respect for the devs due to giving us a Dog thiren with fat tits producing a wide Miyabi on her shirt solely because of her fat tits.
>>541520489Reading through here and realizing just how many people are unaware of the affect JP/KR/Western porn has on China because of their porn bans.Westerners are huge into furry shit in growing numbers, and it's spread to Asia 100%. Used to just be high tier fetish stuff like monster girls but now its common to see actual furries not just Kemonos.
I love how Astra is the ez fix for any struggling team.
>>541521461then she'll show up in the big events and side content like everyone else does
>>541521626>Struggling team>MiyabiI'm more inclined to believe in skill issue.
>>541521496FUFU NO DON'T KILL HIM
>>541521626why are u using miyabi on that boss what the fuc
>>541521703>hi proxy! what a wacky bangboo friend you have there! Thank you for changing my life btw haha oops gotta go now cya
>>541521172>Characters exist solely in a state of for (you) pandering or they'll burn down the offices*And stab the team members in the street. This is always normies complaints and mine about gacha storytelling. The characters all being (you) pander means they all are incapable of having realistic relationships. Either make it a marriage romance simulator or not at all. Let me marry Corin or Lycaon or don't let me have (you) with them at all. Stop being cowards about it.
>>541521172>just good friends like Nicolelol
>>541521496are you chinese bwo?give us your best chinese zzz meme
>>541521496I'm not chinese so I have no skin in this argument but porn is illegal in a lot more places than you think it's not a big deal.
>>541521879that's literally what it is
>>541521972You are literally in denial normie
>>541522007you are literally hallucinating pag
i need a ether team so bad i have nothing for the third boss in deadly assault
>>541521496I'm rereading the exchange and your clearly the one having a melty
>crying about (you) pandering in a gachamaybe play a different genre
>>541521172Idk I just wish we had the fun character interactions like we used to during season 1 back such as remember when HSOS 6 vs Cunning Hares happened between Anby and Harumasa. Also Jane and Seth were funny in their interactions (I’m not mentally ill to shout KEK at that). Makes the world feel more alive and the characters too
>>541521909I'm not Chinese but I lived and worked in china for 5 years from 2014-2019 and left when covid was happening, didn't want to be a foreigner stuck in China during that shitshow. >>541521970The point was accessing porn, because people are going to want to goon, and it's mostly JP/KR/western sites hosting porn, so obviously the tastes of us foriegners affect them, and a majority of furries were from our side of the planet and its growing on them too. Look at Pulchras softcore porn massage video for goodness sakes.
>>541522140Astrvke
>>541522181>KR sites>hosting porn
>>541522068>pagI don't speak seanigger.
how would they feel about the current state of ZZZ?
>>541522134whatever you say, im not the one sneeding about gooks.>>541522232>he doesn't know how popular manwha anime style hentai has becomeyoung or retarded, which one
>>541522140only people who like cheap pandering from every single character are the cringe self insertersI know you started playing because of vivian but there was a time when you had normal platonic relationships where the flirty dialogue options were optional and inconsequential
>>541522243You shouldn't speak at all. No one wants to hear your stupid headcanon.
>>541522302KEKY-POW!
>>541521776Miyanagi is my only anomaly team. Fiend is an anomaly boss. You think they’d do better swapped with the Evelyn team?>>541521713I couldn’t get 20k with Soukaku and I did with Astra. Not attacking Miyabi, just appreciating Astra.
>>541522359Play a different genre poser.
>>541511902I will say it, Sheperd was much more entertaining than Venus.
>random seethe at Koreans againSEAdogs never change
>>541522402zzz is not wuwa poser
Galbrena is gonna tear us a new fucking asshole this month
>>541522302you bait is profitable if done in moderation to make big bank but if its done half heartedly and cheaply with everyone (like black and white screens) then nobody really cares.
>>541522386Way i see things, Astra just practically raises the score solely by existing. Nothing really to appreciate with that, especially when you can still score higher if you don't play Soukaku like a drooling retard.
>>541522453ZZZ is gacha. Play a different genre. Even a woman isn't as fucking dumb as you, because they can just play their for (you) games like Lads.
>>541522140>noooo everything has to be for (me) or i'm getting cuckedilliterate faggots like you are the problem by the way, when you read Moby Dick do you need Ahab to be romantically interested in you and every time he brings up the whale you start seething violently?Asian insecurities would want us to rewrite the every piece of literate and media from the perspective of a young Chinese bachelor.
>>541522445>Koreans
>>541522497i like this picture now someone needs to do lighter and burnice as scanty and kneesocks
>>541522542Moby Dick isn't a gacha game. I'll repeat it again because you are such a fucking simpleton you need to be told several times.Play a different genre.
>>541522563brolucy and piper.
>>541522542Yes, I love Ahab
Gacha game is more about collecting waifu/items/husbando/whatever than (you) pandering tho
>>541522542>Asian insecurities would want us to rewrite everything from the perspective of a young Chinese bachelorTRVKE, Romeo and Juliet needs to be redone from the perspective of me and Juliet or I'm getting cucked
>>541522614You clearly haven't played many gacha if you think its all 'For You' slop
Lmao xhe thinks Wuwa is what every gacha is KEKYPOW
>>541522614>he actually thinks thisyou don't even know how obviously brown you are to non self-insert cucks. go watch solo leveling man and daydream about being somebody else.
>>541521172>>541521864All they had to do is lock the (You) pandering behind a high trust rating so it's still accessible for people who want it but isn't immediately in-your-face without at least a modicum of effort spend building up the relationship.
>>541522747The amount of people who care about trash like Limbus Company = 0
>>541522516You're too focused on the le gacha argument because you only play games that have heavy pandering, with faceless protagonists. ZZZ is it's own game, with its own MCs who are their own characters.ZZZ was never a dating sim, it never sold itself as a heavy pandering dating sim. Hell, it didn't even have a character explicitly romantically interested until vivian
Did you guys scream cuck at fgo and gbf too or is it just a Hoyo thread problem
>>541522865>until vivianYou are a fucking joke.
>>541522542Rewrite all Fate routes to be from the perspective of Shinji or I'll stab the Ufotable leads to death.
he's probably the same anon who came in here and said that self-inserting is the default way to play
>>541522918We are just shitposting bwo
>>541522614They really can't get this. They are playing a game that is not really aimed at them and then they sulk and shitpost here because they don't like it. How do you even call this retardation?
>>541522918xhey’re seachurls who discovered gacha through wuwa
>>541522827I don't watch gook manwha trash. I just don't pretend gacha isn't a genre for (you) pandering like a mentally fuck in denial.
>>541522614Are you retarded, or do you genuinely think all gacha games involve copious amounts of (You) pandering?Hell, I wouldn't even mind it if there was a relationship system in place where you had to build up to romance, but having everyone be blatantly for (You) with zero effort involved is just lazy.
>>541522614>>541522834this was my point, it's not the (you) pandering it's that its a halfway pussy version of you pandering. if they want every character to canonically lust after wise let me pick my favorites and marry and have sex with them. in the current state it's just 30 women obsessed with me that I can't even hold their hands or something harmless.if they let me marry my rat wife and spend 5$ on an engagement ring item like in GFL2 i wouldn't be calling them cowards. pathetic cowardly (you) pandering from miHoyo is what I'm bitching about, not the pandering itself.
>>541522865>Hell, it didn't even have a character explicitly romantically interested until vivianOk liar.
Look at this retarded debateI just want a good story from ZZZ and a strong antagonist, is it that hard?
>>541523076You are the one eating chocolate cake and complaining about the sugar content.You are an idiot.
>>541522918Brown SEAmonkeys who only play gacha games with (You) pandering think all gacha games have (You) pandering.
>>541523083EXPLICIT romantic interest bro. Vivian was one step away from asking us to marry her. Before her, what did we have? Miyabi's fiancé thing? She wasn't awake for that, and it never gets brought up after
>>541523147You can't have nice thing bozo, you will get slop because they are made from china
>>541522614Do you only play 3 total games bro? Theres a shit ton of gacha that aren't for (you).Theres ten million videogames and plots where I'm not the main fucking character and it doesn't make me insecure.
>>541523171I bought chocolate cake and halfway through the baker replaced it with sponge cake. I'm upset because the sponge cake sucks, but the chocolate cake was really good and I want it back.
>>541522140its always some astra or yixuan obsessed chink who thinks everything needs to be pandering or its cuckshit
>>541523147The story was never good. People who pretend early ZZZ was great are so full of shit. That rubbish intermission where nothing fucking happens while you grind levels would have caused thousands to quit.
>>541523216Personally, never in my life have I been able to self insert into a characterNo one is as good looking, smart and rich like me
>>541507868>someone posts some literal who's fanart with a style that doesn't even look like zzz>>541512202>people somehow fall for it when has been confirmed in interviews that waterkuma designed the entire 1.0 and most of season 1 cast one year agoThis fucking place man...
and i'd say more, vivian's obsession got so flanderized, you could say it lost romantic connotations and became the same as an innocent otaku obsession for her oshi
>>541523371People are just seeking an outlet for their dissatisfaction.
>>541523343True we'll just have to settle for our Ctarl-Ctarl princess musclewivess brother.
>>541522140>>541523083The crying is about cheap bad pandering >Astra being into Wise for no reason>Vivian being into BOTH proxies because they told her to not kys on a forum post like 10 years ago?>Alice for absolutely no reason whatsoeverHere's the thing tough, before 1.5 there was flirting with Harumasa, Yanagi, Lycaon, Lighter and all of it was way better done than the out of nowhere "actually in love" the proxies are getting lately. You also had characters with a crush like Ellen but all of it was more organic for a gacha and it was always after we helped with a commission
Drip when?
>>541523468more like /zzz/ is just full of liars.
>>541522724umamusume is like that, you support the girls on their dreams and stuff. It has pandering but it's only a few girls. They know they can make their fanbase care for a character without relying on the character throwing themselves at the player
zzz agent like this when?
>>541523147this is the debate that's been going on since the 80s you philistineshould every character be solo leveling man to pander to haremtardsor should our characters be allowed to not be self inserts and have their own relationships and taste.shitty harem pandering is boring to me, and to others its the pinnacle.
>>541523501Here's a little truth nuke for (You)Writing a character have a boyfriend/girlfriend that isn't you isn't going to make the plot, antagonists or lore good. Manato has kids apparently, not sure if that's true, the story is still dogshit.
>>541523501That and it still gives room for the characters to develop and exist in their own ecosphere outside of orbiting the MCs, it very wildly varies though. Some are literally launched just to suck self-insert dick and others just kind of become more fleshed out.
>>541523371What about this video >>541512542is there some truth to it?
Well written flirting like Shifu's
>>5415235862.4
>>541523669
>>541522549white people are just built different
>>541523690that's not even close, she's covered in so many bullshit accessories
>>541523606Personal deeper characterization and overarching plot in a gacha game are usually kept separate. They were doing the "personal" part well enough until 1.5
You must be to stupid to not realize that ZZZ doesn't have a main plot anymore. The devs literally told us this back when 2.0 launched. They said they would "incorporate" agent stories into the main story. So that's all we have no, agent stories in place of a main plot. It's never going to change. Because this game is failing and their budget is no doubt being shrunk as time goes on as they continue to fail.
>solo levelingI remember having a friend who had solo leveling brainrot and would scream aura every 5 seconds it was funny ngl
>>541523690I hope she has an interaction where we talk to her through the phone
>>541521172I mean is everyone becoming the protagonists friend or their lives being affected by the protagonist the problem? This is a thing in many popular anime. I think the real problem like always is the execution.
>>541523606Would be better if every character was potentially for you but you had to earn it through Trust events and movie dates and shit rather than getting it at 0 Trust.
>>541523728The tree event is just so good Shifubro
>>541523586we have Qingyi also >all our limited lolis are chineseIdols never ever
>>541523817All gachas are doing it, Genshin just implemented that too and still has a plot. People simply didn't play agent stories
>>541523690She might be the ugliest agent in the entire game, god damn. Corn looks like a supermodel compared to this bitch holy shit I want memory hole it
I love this cutie
]>>541523501>>541523606I disagree, I think blatant pandering is fine as long as the character would canonically be involved romantically with our character as a person or in looks.Making Eve into Wise makes 0 fucking sense, and not because I think she's a lesbian, but because no 30 year old career secret agent with looks and experience like hers would throw herself as an internet underground desk jockey hacker like Belle/Wise.Vivian yes, Astra yes, Yixuan would not be caonically lusting after he disciples who came here on BUINSESS.
Just realized that not a single post-release A rank has been for (you)Manato won't be for (you)
End of Service when?
>>541523967who you throwing shade at bitch
>>541523883I like Qingyi's characterization a lot even if I wish she was more robotic. Would be cool to see her more, but the devs seem to have memory-holed the cops entirely.
am i playing a different game? every now and again i see people saying how the girls are completely obsessed and in love with us, but when you do the trust events and street interactions, it's mostly platonic frienship stuffwhere is the love, where is the obsession
>>541523613Yes and I actually don't mind one canonically in love character. Vivian can exist and in her trust events you don't really reject her you just tell her that love has to grow organically and that she can keep trying. It's really nice, but it's a coin they have spent already, if they're throwing for you characters left and right now is just making them seem desperate. (I also give a pass to Seed because she is autistic as fuck and Helios homies can love each other?
>>541524014Seth
>>541524013>internet underground desk jockey hacker like Belle/Wise.I think they really need to reestablish why phaeton is so well regarded and why all the copy cats led to the minor punishment of being a non HIA proxyprobably will attempt to happen in yidhari's story in her memories or something
>>541524014Pulchra clearly has (You) potential but she's the sort to constantly test you expecting betrayal.
>>541523690
>>541524013Shifu is a lonely hag and she was excited to take us in from the beginning
>>541523690thank god we're getting even more cunny, it means the team realizes you can't release so many hagspawn and expect to survive, our game needs more men and loli not just hags.Even though Dialyn is a pretty 5/10 loli she's still got decent design and appeal, and maybe her personality/playstyle will make up for it.
>>54152403817 more years, after the Lizard Takeover arc
>>541524120Seth is not for (you), he's whining about his brother 80% of the time
Cute Bnnuy
>>541524072That's what makes these try hard virgins complaining about it in ZZZ so funny. It's tame as fuck in this game. The only time it felt stupid to me was Orphie trauma dumping and trusting me on par with Magus like 2 days after knowing me. That's not muh (you) pandering, that's just shit writing from a shit developer.
It feels like the majority of characters since 2.0 have some kind of twin tail.
>>541523669>>541523728>>541523870I know when it's you talking to yourself because you never even get new Yixuan images kek.
>>541524056I apologize, after seeing Daylin I think Corn is really cute
>>541524072You have now just realized most people on every social media don't play the games they talk about.Same shit with people on Twitter and Reddit calling ZZZ a gooner game, when in reality the most gooner stuff we have is skimpy outfits, handholding, massages and Jane
>>541523728we need more yixuan clones desu
>>541524195bro that guy said Alice is in love with us. I genuinely don't see it at all. She's an ojou who grew up in an all-girls school, so she got embarassed with the proximity in that one trust event. But i've seen many many anons saying that Alice is legit in loveHow
>>541524072that's what I was arguing in defense of, pandering isn't bad but miHoyo needs to stop being cowards about it and let me fuck or marry them, even wukeks got a hand holding segment and their game sucks ass.Let me hold Lucy's hand and do a marriage event where we ride off into the sunset on her Bike...PLEASE
>>541523817True but I don't know about the budget part yet, I'm pretty sure games get their budget allocated in an annual basis? If we see budget cuts it would be 3.0
>>541524359do her final trust event bro
>>541524268Dude is this gonna happen all the time? You are so obsessed it's genuinely creepy, what is even that argument
ZZZ Classic servers when)
>>541524448Don’t feed (You)s to schizos.
Vivian would give you blowjobs whenever you ask and wherever. Best wife.
>>541524432But Trust Events are where they SHOULD put the (You) pandering.
Mibibi bissile
>>541524534Also shoejobs in back alleys~
>>541524363Best we can do is white text on black screen.This game will never have something kino like Shorekeeper playing piano.
>>541524038realistically in like 10 years>4-5 years to end the main story>other 5 years of repeating events until official eoseven if you think they're losing money with this, they're notthey probably would love to make more but I'm sure it's enough for this type of game even if they have to cut some corners here and there along the way and in the improbable case that they're actually losing money they would just take the loss but never eos out of nowhere because they'd lose way too much reputation
>>541524038We won’t EOS but we’ll go into maintenance mode indefinitely (which means lesser effort, slop like 2.x etc) when HNA comes out
>>541524563her knock knock pfp is the (you) pandering her trust event is their to explain it
>>541524038Hoyo doesn't let games die just like that, look at HI3
>>541524583basedmore characters should use their hair or animal ears as weapons
>>541524009Just look up Hutao
>>541524009Wish she had more art.
>>541524678A better example is the games that came out before that. They are somehow still alive even if they are super low effort png collectors.
>>541523297the early game storytelling was good and it suited the setting of the game. nothing much to say of the story itself because it just released. mostly small stakes stuff and you’re basically a netrunner working on rebuilding your rep. jrpg normies just lost their shit because a new hoyo game wasn’t catered to them. they eventually got what they wanted though and most still fucked off back to genshin/hsr/ww anyways leaving zzz as another generic 3d rpg gacha rotation game they sometimes go to when done with their main game(s).
its still funny how the ZZZ devs have failed to really show how much of a CHEAT having phaeton as a hollow navigator is always finding that bullshit portal that gets everyone out to safety before shit every hits the fan, that being instead stuck for hours in the hollows without any outside communication AND the hollows corrupting food and your body while hoping the exit portal from some old bangboo carrot data eventually opens up so you can finally breathe isnt well communicated to dumbfaggots who skip text
>>541524038This not crunchyroll retard
it could be worsewe could be an auto-battler where all our character share the same rigimagine paying 200$ for their characters who only work with 3 supports who only work with them.
>>541524794lmeow now this is some good pag humor.
>>541524826I don't understand how HSR makes so much money either. It felt like a huge step back compared to genshin and honkai impact, the average slop gacha has far better stories and equal if not better gameplay in comparison.Hoyo's marketing paid off.
>>541524509We are so oppressed...
>>541524704Because.. she's a brunette?
I just want to know Zhao and Banyue element and specialization
>>541524963HSR is the Hoyo game for everyone who complained Genshin involved too much actual gameplay.
>>541525047Physical stunner but with good damage.Fire RuptureYe Guangdong is Phys rupture.
>>541525047Ice StunPhysical RuptureSource: Uncle Niggerfaggot
>>541524963>I don't understand how HSR makes so much money eitherAnime tropes and autoplay, genuine manipulative writing
>>541485016Orpheus? Isn't that a man's name?
>>541524809I remember billy almost snitch you to the police after losing comms with eous
>>541525086>>541525097>zhao>stunnernot another fucking loli stunner please I want at least one to be a hypercarry
>>541524809Uhhh being an elite hacker and navigator is gay and cucked, wuwon
Give us the American Clussy that'll save us
>>541524165Yeah S2 seems filled with it and that's a good thing. I want even more new models like Zhao, give us more lolis and cunny, differen't JK's, huge tall hags
There was zero fucking reason to base annual patch cycles and new areas on "real life cultural regions" again.It isn't Genshin, and doesn't fit.
If Zhao is phsyical attack then I want Orphie.
>>541507578Miasma Defender. We get to use the Miasma Shield against foes.
>>541525323>>541525323
>>541525286ccp mandated chinawank
>no event where Video Store is robbed while you are in Chinatown>Zhu, Qingyi and Seth are in itThis game is so fucking boring. Here's another bangboo event
>>541525363Billy's hand is so lucky...
>>541525286WrongI want a region based on EgyptFull of dark skinned babes and belly dancers
>>541525414the robber? janeshe was looking for cheese
Who is the most viable A rank DPS that isn't fire or phys based? All I have is fire and phys units other than Nicole.
>>541525363Why yes, one of my favorite agent is Caesar, how did you know?
>>541525317She is ice element.That leaves her with stunner or defender role.
>>541525286I really like the implications >uhmmm there was the all expansive hollows calamity and surviving humans now live in areas within driving or boating distance of each other yet somehow have completely different cultures and no intermixingIs there segregation in the ZZZ universe
>>541525498Uh.. dps Soukaku?Dps Ben?Quickswap Anton with Astra?
>>541524363ZZZ will never have a fuck or marry system just like how it will never include shipping outside of the MC. The girls will love you and crush on you hard with a lot of pandering moments but that's the extent of Hoyo. They're too big to go to extremes on any end, they can't and won't even release games with nudity or hentai levels of goon for example because of branding.This has its upsides and downsides, one of the upsides is that you'd never have to worry about EoS any time soon before the story is completely finished because that same reputation and branding which is limiting them in other aspects won't ever allow them to
>>541525286We had the outer rim without needing a new patch cycle, we got the notAmerican military without needing a new patch cycle. Less than half of the 2.0 characters are Chinese and most of the new areas aren't chinese related so I don't think that's what they are going for. A change of scenery to open a new region is nice.
>>541525407Hopefully they just work the chinkasloppa pandering area out of their system and go back to New Eridu with expansions instead of starting to listen to demands for urban anime Russia or urban anime Japan and shit
>>541525573Apparently yes since some people are racist towards Bear thirens and the NEDF almost wiped out the entire Oni population off the map except for the last bastion that Yanagi saved
>>541525531no way are we getting two ice dps back to back
Their chinese babies will be stronger than any white man.
>>541525414ZZZ is their most creative setting and they don't take any advantage of it, where's the fucking whimsy man
>>541525669>urban anime Russia wait that sounds peak
Who was the last agent with an evasive assist? Astra?
>>541525948Astra or Pulchra
>>541525948Yeah, what's up with that? You would think they would explain on the witch time.
>>541525846Not much to base it on. You can't go for a Byzantine design plus fuckhuge machinery like Genshin because it's not period appropriate. So you're stuck with Petrine Baroque plus fuckhuge machinery which is what HSR did but still wouldn't make for believable high density environments.
>>541525948Pulchra and I know it doesn't count but is funny to me; Yixuan has both defensive and evasive assists
>>541526072Blueberry Sandwich
>>541525286This is the first frogpost I've agreed with in months. We didn't need to lose the Urban Grafitti appeal by going to Waifei to train with monks and learn Feng-shui.Absolutely 0 reason other than "let's do something Chinese themed."
Wait a fucking second. I just realized Orphie's SL rank-up event didn't have any voiced dialogue. It was all text-based, like the regular Quality Time invites in between rank-ups. What the FUCK? Has it been like that for all Quality Time SLs since they were introduced? Or is this a recent thing? I remember earlier in the game, the rank-up events had VN style dialogues fully voiced. But now that those are gone, there's no voiced dialogue at all. Hell, there used to be voice lines in Quality Time style events as well, when you were walking from point A to point B, the Agents at least talked. But now it's all speech bubbles.
>>541526323Could've at least stuck to a Shanghai or HK tribute region, stay true to its modern culture, why do chinks insist on ancient cultivation bullshit every timeSuch an underutilized setting, I want a Sleeping Dogs successor.
>>541526362ermmm, When I ranked up Orphie all the way up to max trust I had at least 4 voiced VN style dialogues
>>541526341
>>541526323The thing is, Failume isn't even that bad outside of the chingchong monastery. It has that urban chinatown feel, with a dash of cyberpunk. It's the fucking temple and mysticism, and miasma bullshit that ruin it.
>>541525948Pulchra/Trigger/Astra
>>541526692Trigger has Defensive Assist.
>>541526494Don't remind me of NEPS, we already had Cool Chinese Cops Kino ala HK, why the sudden traditionalist angle so soon as 2.0? >>541526601Miasma and Yixuan being the only rupture unit after 5 months is retarded. only ONE rupture after this long with several miasma bosses? It isn't neccessary but how are we just now getting the first in 2.3 months later and it's an A rank and Support?
>>541526362anyone can check this in the menus
>>541526601To accurately represent urban Chinese conflicts you'd have to show the seedy underbelly and crime of contemporary China, and the government wouldn't allow it, so here's your approved grorious history of Chinese culture ancient mythology cause for all problems instead.
>>541526185You can't really make a whole annual patch around it, but an Outer Ring region that's very industrialized and cold would fit.Someone is mining all the metals for your iPhone, liberal.
>>541525286But we just had a military focused chapter, albeit in a not so good patch. Plus the previous AND next chapter is about a faction that is half-japanese half-european.In fact, the mystic stuff is more or less here to introduce the eyes mechanic, which is still presented as technological from the P.O.V of the proxy?
3.0 should have been chinawank.to do it as soon as 2.0 felt like a rugpull over the westenrized urban appeal.
The forced Dialyn slander might be the most blatant example of astroturfed doomposting I've ever fucking seen in this godforsaken general.You'd think she hates curry or something.
>>541526798>>541526601I dont see how miasma shields are a problem since they're easy to pop if you do proper defensive actions
>>541526869The real question is what the hook will be for 3.0, where do you go?ZZZ lacks the standard progression of the other Mihoyo games (go to a new region/planet)
can we skip to 3.0? I'm tired of shifuwank
>>541526989dont worry, they also hate japan for having a take on curry that has beef in it.
>>541523967lucia is the real uggo, at least dialyn still have some urban zzz elements, lucia is just a genshin reject
>>541526994Thats why I said it isn't necessary, rather its the abscence of rupture alternatives.
I don't think the chinawank is even bad. I couldn't make it through the start of WuWa. This isn't that bad. The problem with the game is the content. Nothing to do. Shit bangboo event after another. Devs constantly tweaking boss stats to punish anyone who didn't pull Shifu or Yixuan or DID pull Miyabi. This trend alone is putting me off the game. Why get hyped for next Void Hunter if after she's out they just make it so Fire is punished or whatever element she is
>>541526989Dialyn just looks ugly anon.
>>541527071Resides in the outer rings mad max style.
>>541527071>>541527168Greater Outer Ring, the introduction is a giant Desert Thunder-dome megacity ran on old diesel generators and tech, and we need to find the last remaining sources of pre-apocalypse data to find out how to unfuck the moon.>We enter the scene with a saloon and Billy/ SoC as our guides, a Bar fight Ensues.
>>541527127>The problem with the game is the content. Nothing to do.Yeah. We are basically waiting on the next patch now.Again, make sidequests! Make me explore Wafei!
>>541527127>Nothing to doPost 100% Achievement completion.
>>541527071Boring answer is another part of the city (Throne Quarter/wherever the Mayor is)Slightly more interesting would be outside the City, maybe Outer Ring expansion or seeing the Dark Wall in person.Hopium answer is the moon.
>>541526994I'm not talking about the shields. I'm talking about Miasma as a concept in the narrative. The Etheric matter in the Hollows was already extremely dangerous and corrupting. There was absolutely no need to introduce the same thing again, but with Chinese mysticism flavor.
>>541527245Mfw the next ""region"" is not America, but AUSTRALIA.
>>541527262>make sidequestsThe budget...If only there was another mechanic you could base sidequests on that could be more abstracted. If only.
>>541525798call me when they can play basketball competively and not just win math competitions you nerds have been getting uppity, its time physical chads reminded you dweebs who runs this town
>>541527127And to think that everyone was defending the massive number of events just a few months ago.
>>541527284
>>541527368They also just introduced the sharingan but now they are not using it for sidequest material. Like what?
>>541527321>100% Achievement completionImpossible unless you roll every character. The most soulless decision in the game's history.
>>541527368It's not TV I'll tell you that much.
>>541527127>Shifu or Yixuanuh
>>541527356It would give us a reason to get biker gang round 2 without it just being more American stuff. We're basically long distance cousins, it fits entirely.
>>541527127It's not that bad. Most of this hasn't been about China. Also this is Hong Kong rather than China. The issue I think is the Yixuan wank. Yixuan is the biggest Mary Sue in the game. Say what you want about Miyabi, but being forced by her own mother to kill her so she could control an evil demon sword that wants to take over her and murder everyone yet due to her pure autistic soul she just wants to be a hero, is miles better than Yixuan who is just void hunter level strong... because her sister died or something. She has shown up in every patch just to declare how strong she is and how she can take anyone out. It's overbearing. It really feels like her arc and anything to do with yunkui summit is written by Genshin or HSR devs and it sucks away all the soul from the game.Thank fuck whoever is writing the spook shack stuff has some semblance of what made ZZZ good in the first place. Like or hate Yixuan you know I'm right.
>>541527368fuck off , tvfag
>>541527536>Also this is Hong Kong rather than China.1997 called
>>541526989I love Dia, her motif is silly but just works. Half the time it just sounds like that one schizo who hates all loli agents or is trying to force this "idols aged up" or "idols trans" shitpost
>>541526994>Hugo with attack promptslolWhat floor is that? 10th?
>>541527461I meant Yuzuha
>He shows up
>>541527414Flopra killed /zzz/.
>>541527570If Dialyn showed up in season 1 you'd all love her and her telephone motif.
>>541527127Yeah the endgame feels especially egregious in ZZZ, compared to other Hoyo games which is kinda funny because it’s not even that hard, just feels like the devs make it annoying on purpose.Stuff like DA and Shiyu doesn’t feel fun or interesting, I just feel like it’s getting more tedious for me because I’m not constantly rolling the shill units and it never feels nice seeing the scores getting lower literally every update while in Genshin and HSR my older teams can still clear no problem.
>>541527632No.
>>541527589Smegma Crazies faction when?
>>541527536I have to say, miyabi's never powerwanked herself like shifu has>you'd need the whole eridu army and I'd still win xD
>>541527632Yes.
>>541527632Trvke
Dawei slashed the budget for the next thread...
>>541527127I never understood why you idiots compare ZZZ and wuwa, that is an open world, if you are a new player or even a returning player you will have a lot of content to do because each patch added a new map to explore and of course your game hours extend naturally, while in ZZZ being an arena battler it consumes the content faster naturally
>>541527675miyabi doesn't show up for 5 patches after her arrival to save us stop pretending yixuan isn't clearly getting preferential treatment because she's the CNwank character
>>541527767Wuwa gave up on its open world a while ago, it's just decoration for marketing reasons.And ZZZ slapped on barren open world sections also for decoration and marketing reasons.
>>541527579I mean I've been pretty lazy with my climbs since it gets pretty samey eventually
>>541527815>ITS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING EVERY PATCH IS YIXUAN WANK!!!!Oh brother.
>>541527767>I never understood why you idiots compare ZZZ and wuwaBecause the outdated game it copied from the ground up, Genshin, completely mogs it to this day with muh sales charts, which is about the only thing doom and shitposting jeets care about
>>541527605
>>541527536Yihuan played no significant role in the battle against Isolde and did not appear in the Seed storyline.No, the problem is having a new villain for every patch.
Why is it much more comfy at this time pf the day? We are having true conversations.
>>541527767You know why. They can't compete with Genshin (their actual rival) because they get their asses handed to them every month. If it wasn't us the Hi3 thread would be in total shit posting mode instead.
>>541527897Isole was technically 2.0 and 2.2We will have Sarah from 2.3 until 2.5
>>541527830>Wuwa's open world is just decorationNow please go around combing the entire map for 3500 chests and shitty puzzles. Enjoy the "content".
>Proxy joins military mission>military won't let him leave base until the mission is over>AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH MUH FREEDOM MUH HUMAN RIGHTS SHIFU TASKETE>shifu teleports him out using little bird somehow>he he, the whole military couldn't defeat meThe lowest point in the whole game for me in the story. What idiot wrote this shit?
>>541527830They didn't abandon the open world idiot, they turned their game into an RPG with linear environments with multiple routes to move between areas instead of being a wide open world, that's why they can add a new map every few months.
>>541527897>Yihuan played no significant role in the battle against IsoldeThat's my point. She literally just came there to say that she could take on the whole army. It's plain fan wank. Why is she even here?>new villain every patchI agree here. Isolde was a worse bringer.
>>541527368we need more walk talk walk talk walk talk walk talk black screen, empty corridor slop quests x20 for sure. cant expect too much from the average gacha gamer
>>541527972I was negative about it. There's no exploration anymore, they have no confidence in it, they buff the compass and traversal constantly so it explores itself.
>>541528015Isolde was significantly better than Bringer, we have her backstory and motivation and has a bigger role in the plot than he had.
>>541528025starrailGAWD...>>541528012>They didn't abandon the open world>instead of being a wide open worldUh huh. It's just vistas, as I said.
>>541527840Yeah, that's why I stop at 100. I don't have the time chasing whales and neets for top 1%. Still, I like the Tower compared to DA. It's a better kind of content than DPS checks.
>>541528005>Proxy actually act like criminals>NOOOOOOO
>>541528029Whether you've got a compass or not doesn't change the fact that it remains an open world gacha, littered with 1591052 chests and puzzles to collect for limited resources. I'm sticking to corridor/arena battler slop for a reason. The only time I'll ever look to go back to open world games is if it's an actual game that can do exploration and rewards well and not a Gacha
>>541527878I actually loved the OBOL squad why people tend to hate them?
>>541528108Her backstory and motivation is what makes her such a terrible character. Bringer was about to die in the hollow and saw the Maker who saved him and converted him to following it.Isolde murdered a bunch of soldiers and people because her soldiers died in hollow zero? Oh and even worse than that she turned the dead soldiers into fucking zombies. That's not a good motivation.
>>541528015It was just banter. Magus tried to break into her house
>>541528118yeah I have been putting my survey spots to import the scoring system from GLORY to all modes instead of just the DPS checks, its actually pretty cool how much they've tried to make a few characters have extra scoring opportunities
>>541528114you don't know shit about open world RPG, there are different ways of exploration, while Genshin chose the JRPG style because covid-19, wuwa chose westoid RPG style, Azur Promilia is also similar, it abandoned the JRPG style and decided on linear environments with branching paths.
The last /zzz/ thread...
Bros we eat so good while /hsrg/ starves.
>>541528108>I'm butthurt my soldiers died How many times are they going to recycle Trigger's story?
>>541528314>while Genshin chose the JRPG style because covid-19But it was developed in 2017
>>541528235That is a significantly weaker reason than Isolde. The soldiers she murdered were following Lorenz knowingly. They knew what the colonel was up to and told them to go back to their post to protect the procelume instead of the citizens.
>>541527854i was saying exactly the opposite of that.
>>541528398>The soldiers she murdered were following Lorenz knowinglyNo she killed a bunch of normal soldiers. And what do you mean knowingly. They didn't know shit. Where does it say they knew?Also what about all the fucking civilians she killed and was going to kill. It's such a retarded story.Bringer meanwhile is a perfectly reasonable story. Getting saved from death by an evil entity and pledging to it is a story as old as time.You have some dogshit taste.
>>541528396Mondstat was released based on Zelda and they doubled down on the open wise map with Inazuma and Sumeru, which is why people hate those regions with passion, cumbersome puzzles and exploration that in principle you had time for by being locked in your house, but that in recent times became exhausting just looking at it.
>>541528314>wukek is western rpg styleh-....hhuh?even after 2.0 it's still just genshin lite.
>>541528339All hsrg does is talk about us.
>>541528314Nta but sounds like cope when all of it boils down to this >>541528176 when it comes to Open World Gacha's.>explore a hidden area>"oh wow, looks cool, wonder what I get for coming here">+3 astrite/primos>30 odd chests and puzzles jam packed every 10 meters you walk that all reward you with shitty astrites/primosGenuinely feels worse than even the biggest Open World slops like Assassin's Creed who's whole map is just a to do check list
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>>541528351Neither Zoe or Isolde believe that Zoe wanted the entire military to risk their lives and is mad that the first responders were abandoned. Isolde was fine risking her soldiers lives and she's mad because they died to protect corporate assets instead of saving lives.No wonder you like Bringer's incredibly simplistic backstory you barely pay attention to the plot.
>>541528639I love banging boos.
>>541527830>And ZZZ slapped on barren open world sections also for decoration and marketing reasons. A very dumb open world, you can see families, working men, children playing a few meters away from cosmic entities of twisted flesh.
>>541528176Yeah that's why I never understood the Genshin crazy, the combat was decent but the open world treasure hunting aspect was mediocre. BoTW/Elden Rangz might not have every single thing unique but they attempted to make many unique. How many Genshin puzzles are the exact same, even ours try to be different most of the time. They have to make everything solvable by a a 6 year old.
>>541528108Bringer was sabotaged in the rewrites and so was NEPS and Zhu Yuan. Should have kept the fall from grace corruption plotline after being offered a deal to save his life, instead of just "I Did it because I really really like this crack they sell me."
>>541528159unironically no, not like that. protagonists doing crimes are good if it's cool. Being a baby who can't sit still for a few day isn't cool.
>>541527127>log In the game>Content Is either DA or Shiyu, you perfect playing Is irrelevant toward your score as its tied to pulling the latest units and their W engine.>Bangboo event that Is either a 5mn minigame or 10 minute wall of white text on blackscreenmy life on ZZZ.
