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Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8697 - Fagnic Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailer
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>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
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>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
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==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 19 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 14 January 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026

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Sara milk
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This is now a cream thread. Post cute things and be wholesome arigatto gozaimasu
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>>541527978
Sonic and Cream...
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>>541528249
Sonic I think you need to ease up on the onions chillidogs bro...
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>>541526491
>Blame the editor Kaminski who decided to spend thousands of Archie's money on IPs for cameos in a crappy crossover (Worlds Unite) in order to puff up his resume before jumping ship to DC's capeshit like a rat fleeing a ship he deliberately sank.
Seriously, what is it about that company that attracts power-abusers?
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AAAAAIEEEEEEEE THIS IS SO ASS KILL THE ROYAL FAMILY IM SO SICK OF THESE USELESS CUNTS.
Anyone who was actually around for this period, please, you gotta tell me what it was like growing up with this shit. I would have been fucking LIVID
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>>541528560
It was fine, until penders came along to ruined everything introducing his knuckles copies.
Early archie was mostly funny gag stuff.
Then after issue 20 everything got more serious, penders was mostly fine until issue 50, then lost his mind. Then the comic was trash with his peak trash being issue 150 and sega loosing their shit with that cover of sonic crying over sally.
Then flynn came along and fixed a lot of shit.
Nowadays people shit on him, but boy archie was at his peak in his entire run, Tracy yardley becoming the main penciller to have art consistency helped a lot too.
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>>541528560
Oh God now the bee Is a prince with a fiance.... God kill me why am I torturing myself with this comic eeeeaaaaugh
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>>541528560
>Grounding Sonic
back to your room, blue boy
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>>541528373
Archie is cancer. Simple as that.
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>>541528560
Strange, if you were a game fag, you didnt know what the fuck was going on the comic.
Then, you realize archie was it's own thing even if satam was the base for it.
The horrid dark ages artists besides. J.axer didnt help either.
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>>541528905
Oh God. That's over half of the entire mainline series. Oh Jesus no. Sonic who let this happen to you my poor baby
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Sonic X Shadow Generations or Sonic Superstars? (Nintendo Switch versions)

Already played the original Generations to death but I'm sure I'd still have fun with the Shadow version. Superstars is a bit ugly on Switch but the performance looks good (60 fps is nice), plus there's no silly depth-of-field blur effect on the backgrounds like on PlayStation. Switch is my last console, so I want a Physical Sonic game as a collector item while I can get one, especially now with older stuff going on sale while Switch 2 takes over. Otherwise I'd get it on pc. Honestly it's a bit painful because the pc version looks so much prettier, plus you can turn off that stupid depth-of-field effect and see the detailed backgrounds.
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>>541529067
Archie sonic was good since 2006, it got axed in 2017 that's more than half the book lifetime.
We used to have an exelent side book called sonic universe, focusing on secondary game characters (amazing book, some even consider it better than the main one)
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God damn mina got the BIG ass hands.
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>>541529127
...what are hotdogs made of?? why do i feel theres some unhinged lore behind the hotdog guy?
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>>541528905
>after issue 20 everything got more serious
Cause they expected the book to be cancelled so Penders was given free reign to do whatever. To his credit, it actually did save the comic. Him turning the comic into a chimera headcanon was the price of NOT just cancelling Archie.

>Flynn cam along and fixed a lot of shit
Yes but the problem with being a janitor is that you are a JANITOR. Flynn's failures tend to be when he tries to do anything original.

Still doesn't change how Archie inadvertently helped kill Sonic Boom and ensure Sticks is forever vaulted.
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>>541528905
I miss Tracy yardley, he was THE sonic comic artist. His style was always associated with comic sonic.
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>>541528560
It was kino up to issue 50, then it took itself too seriously and everything went down hill.

But I LOVED the Knuckles series for some reason, it just felt so much more interesting than the Sonic series. I also liked the more consistent art for. Sonic's art varied wildly by issue and I hated that. Knuckles looked like it was drawn by the same one or two people and was pretty decent.
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OH GOD PENDERS IS MAKING THEM GO TO HIGHSCHOOL
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>>541529342
Stick was vaulted because somic boom as a side series and games were extremely shit, not because of archie.
Only the actual show was worth something.
Besides she was used on the olympic games and directly referenced in frontiers.
>b-but the jap script
I don't know why this is an argument when even Japs thought the American script was the superior version.
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>>541529685
>Stick was vaulted because somic boom as a side series and games were extremely shit

Not exactly. It's also Ian's fault. Him having some retarded ass story about making Sticks live on Angel Island with Knuckles ruined her inclusion in IDW.
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Way past cool!
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Thoughts on the Deadly Six?
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>>541529254
I remember some artist did a remake of this cover in modern sonic style, I wish I could have saved it.
It improved the cover a lot.
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>>541529883
I actually really like massive gloved hands and shoes but yeah that face needs work.
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>>541529790
>Him having some retarded ass story about making Sticks live on Angel Island with Knuckles ruined her inclusion in IDW.
That was a concept that was never used in the first place.
It wasn't even an early draft.
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>>541529859
Zazz is cuhrazy
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Ian "Tails Better Not Have A Love Interest But Knuckles Can Have One Also I Rally For Sally" Flynn
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>>541530037
and then turns into a submissive slut around CHADVOK.
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>>541529859
>>541530037
That reminds me of something laugh-worthy I've seen claimed on TvTropes
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>>541529859
A half baked try to make mario villians as a concept.
Their designs really clashed with the sonic style, they could have been something intersting, but as characters they were incredibly one dimensional.
Sega still use them, because are one of the few sonic villians who don't die in their game.
Zeena and zabok had the better designs, I'm still puzzled why sega likes to use zazz so much.
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For me, it was Spaz doing the pencils and Harvo doing the inks. I was so happy when they got their own issues that featured their work in the Mecha Madness part 1 and 2. My only regret is that they didn't also do Super Sonic vs Hyper Knuckles. God that would have been so hype.
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>>541529360
He was a godsend at making the Satam Cast like Naugus, Rotor and Bunnies feel right at home in the Sega style and especially with the myriad of Archie original characters either before Ian Flynn was writing and especially when he was with most of the new characters feeling like the best of Sega hasn't done this but they don't look utterly out of place.
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>>541529790
You give too much credit and power to Ian and IDW
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>>541530076
Sally was just a friend to sonic after reboot, relic was the one interested in knuckles not the other way around.
Besides, the rule about having no love interests and family members was already on board even before reboot was a thing.
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>>541529859
Well Zavok has slowly grown on me as a villain, Zazz is really entertaining and I love his dumb accent and finally Zeena is my latest hyper fixation character who I'm gonna commission a ton of art for. Actually if anyone has solid artists to link that use forms, Discord or have DA's that'd be great lol
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What do you think things would have been like if Scott hadn't been convinced by Penders to sue like he did to kill reboot Archie? I honestly hear conflicting stories about how that all went down like Scott only sued because Archie were antagonizing him and others saying Penders was constantly telling other staffers to sue Archie in hopes that if enough people joined with him Archie would have to pay up and he could use that as leverage to sue Sega for ownership of Knuckles.

The last story is that Penders victory was a fluke and Archie would have won the case on appeal and wouldn't of had to change anything, they just panicked because Sega was demanding a swift end or they pull the license

Then there's other stuff like Archie wanted to stop printing comics for other IPs in general and focus more on their own stuff and thought they had a chance because of how well the Archie TV show was doing at the time, some thought it would become another Supernatural of Smallville in levels of popularity and profits but I think it ended up flopping and dying pretty quickly after it's first season
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>>541530076
The beginning of the end for knuxouge
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>>541530537
Kinda wild how those 3 are the only of the six worth a damn, Zor, Zik and Zomom don't really bring much to the table, the old man is just as cruel and evil but he's not unique in a group of those fuckers, Zor is a 2000s era edgelord goth but his fighting style sucks and he's not very memorable and Zomom is just a big fat dumbass who listens to whoever feds him last he's basically if Storm and Big did the fusion dance
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>>541530680
Scott fulop was not even a player, his legal shenanigans were legally trashed as soon as he tried to make a ruckus. While he tried to do it years after penders already made a legal mess, and sega was already protected and archie was almost dead.
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>>541530398
This stuff was so cool. Especially since it was long before Toonami and other decent action anime/cartoons. I would just stare at their covers and wonder how they drew this stuff. It just blew away all of Archie's other Sonic artists at the time. This work still looks pretty impressive, it's not just nostalgia. The coloring is a bit lower qaulity than what they do on the covers but it's also on lower quality paper. Apparently they took so long so that's why they mostly just did cover work.
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>>541528249
Built for Big Human Cock
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>>541530506
Ian said it himself on the Bumblekast. Here's the breakdown:

Looking at the Bumblekasts where Ian Flynn talks about Sticks and how he failed to get her in the main continuity is just sad.

Ian's initial pitch, have Sticks living on Angel Island breaking Classic canon. Turn her into Relic 2.0 while making Knuckles look even dumber.
https://www.youtube.com/live/RSPwaUS_7IE?si=dD81vCnTzdJfTREn&t=3105

Ian being confronted about his earlier claim of getting Sticks into IDW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N06yxiZk58&t=2028s

Ian sounding like he just got deep dicked by SoJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI0Jf3VssnU&t=3094s

Ian being confronted with how stupid his initial pitch was followed by damage control.
https://youtu.be/NAStM_NsRsI?si=Slvo51rK_835_8gi&t=2448

Ian being reminded that Sticks was part of the main cast...Totally didn't know she was in Sonic Runners.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI0Jf3VssnU&t=5953s

Ian admitting defeat
https://youtu.be/iI-9RLmfnUY?si=NU-ZJfqRr7YjXUxN&t=152

TLDR; Long long time ago, SoJ told Ian, "No introductions, just have her appear." and he didn't do that. Now he has to live with his failure. He tried a Hail Mary with Sonic Frontiers but that got cut from the Japanese version. SoJ had to put the Amerigaijin in his prace.

Someone should do a version of this for the Freedom Fighters. Would be funny.
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>>541530537
>Zazz is really entertaining and I love his dumb accent
I disagree. His vocal performance was a lot better in Lost World.
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>>541530680
>Archie TV show
If you're talking about Riverdale, it lasted 7 seasons and ended in Aug 2023. This is what Archie Sonic died for
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>>541530995
dude nobody cares about sticks besides (you) here. not even sega cares. why do you think she was sent to the shadow realm? because sega doesn't care about sticks the sticky badger
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>>541530680
>Fulop

He lost HARD BTW. Having Sega involved makes all the difference.
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>>541530680
It was pretty much known Scott only tried to sue because penders wanted to start more legal shit, in the end no one really cared to be on his legal bandwagon.
Even his nemesis, Karl bollers, didn't gave a single shit.
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>>541530995
All this retardedly long post does is prove Ian couldn't get that character into the comics, not that he hand in vaulting a western oc that was long dead and ignored by the japanese
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More like Deadly Sex!
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>>541530995
Nobody fucking Cares about your hateboner man.
Bumblekast was just a fan podcast and nothing Else that the whole reason sega canceled it.
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>>541530995
Sega has been correcting Ian alot, his arrogance cost him Sticks, his arrogance cost him Team Hooligan as well, the Fang mini was all bout getting Bean and Bark to ditch Fang for good because of how much of an asshole he was being

and they made it so he has to shut the fuck up about Sonic on his podcast now he can't even mention it anymore and it cost them views because he knows that's the only reason a good chunk of their viewers watched that dribble

What a dumbass, he will lose his fight to make Surge and Kit irredeemable villains as well because of how popular surge has gotten
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>>541531204
That's nice. It's Ian Flynn's fault Sticks isn't in IDW.
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>>541530954
I'll gas that shit all day, it was phenomenal work
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>>541531267
>his arrogance cost him Team Hooligan as well
didnt sega acknowledge team hooligan later near late 2024?
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>Archiefags and Flynn fags trying so hard to damage control

Member when Ian got community noted cause he didn't know shit about Chaos Control?
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>>541531267
It's a shame, because as bad as Ian is he's 1000x better at writing the characters and understanding the franchise than any Jap that has ever written for Sonic. The nips are nothing if not excellent at strangling their own franchise.
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>>541531000
Genuinely agree on that, I just think his Crossword accent is really funny but as a whole his VA and their performance was better before. Like the delivery on him screaming Stinking Hedgehog is genuinely a work of art.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=71S-i_fZYEY&t=56s&pp=0gcJCTAAlc8ueATH
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>>541531417
dude you are "damage controlling" sticks. a bothing nurger character. Bean the duck is unironically more interesting.
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>>541531267
>>541531368
Team hoolligan is still a thing, even tailstube and idw still make reference of it, the one difference is how bean and bark now can see fang stupid shit, bit in the end thet are still friends.
Mania did a reference of it too, even if they were the hard boiled heaviest impersonating fang, bean and bark.
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>>541531227
What's the next step of Shiruba za hejjehoggu master plan?
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>>541530815
Storm and Big at least have character depth, actually good designs and charm in their simple mindedness that Zomom doesn't remotely have. Also yeah I think Master Zik just being a backstory character to flesh out Zavok would've been better, honestly you could have some interesting development plus tighter focus as villains with the Deadly Six just being Zavok, Zeena and Zazz with the other members either dead or ditching the group.
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>>541531634
Why is everything just better in Japanese?
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>>541531438
The sonic cast are not difficult to understand .
Sonic go fast and adventure. Talk shit and gas self when possible
Amy go sonic and try to kiss him. Get angry and smash anything that gets in way
Tail go sonic and help him. Explain thing to reader if need arise. Also build thing.
Knuckle go rock. Stay rock. DO NOT LEAVE ROCK.
Rouge go steal or spy. Moan and make sexy pose when possible. Play the saxophone also when possible.
Shadow go. Just go. Scowl and call sonic stupid.
Cream go sonic and adventure. Smile and be polite. Do ONE really cool or impressive thing per adventure.

Who else?
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>>541531634
And people still think sticks is not part of the game verse when those comics happened in the main universe.
She used to have a sonic channel profile too.
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>>541531730
>Knuckle go rock. Stay rock. DO NOT LEAVE ROCK.
This isn't SoJ Knuckles. This is Flynn Knuckles.
See: Sonic Heoes, 06, and Forces.
SoJ Knuckles isn't a hermit. That was a weird fandom thing adopted by Flynn.
>b-but why isn't he guarding the master emerald
Who cares? If it's not relevant to the story, out of sight, out of mind.
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>>541531741
Until I see her standing beside Amy in the main games, she isn't. Not spinoff slop like the Olympics, mobile, or kart games. A main game
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THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE IDWFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, GENOCIDE (((ETHICS DEPARTMENTS))), AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.
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>>541531849
Yeah but his whole deal is guarding the master emerald either make it so he doesn't need to do that anymore or he can take it with him without angel island falling. Unless either of those things happen he should always be on his cuckrock until someone comes along and steals it and gives him something to do.
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>>541531730
Omega call every other machine inferior consumer model. shower the premises with machine gun
Black Doom invade world and try to gaslight Shadow
Eggman build theme park and big incomprehensible robot. gets kicked by sonic
Maria die
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>>541531937
This is OOC Sega of America writing.
Sega of Japan doesn't do this.
Knuckles was just going to appear in Frontiers before Flynn had the stupid idea to come up with a justification for it.
The master emerald was safely ignored in stories where it didn't matter.
For some reason, the Americans threw a hissy fit despite this working fine for the franchise.
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>>541531552
Rouge is the only person he hasn't leeched off of yet
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>>541531869
Why dont you try to reject the main games too now that you like to negate literally everything. The original sonic runners created by sonic team was a thing, it was canon too.
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nic
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>>541532040
I remember Eggman saying in his memos that he should try and steal it because he sees Knuckles is around and off the island. so it's still an object of interest
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>>541531990
Any time omega is on the scene he should be shooting or blowing shit up or looking for shit to shoot or blow up. Otherwise ya just ain't using him right.
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>>541532110
Because the main games trump everything and are the center of the franchise
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Fuck I'm so close to the elusive mobian camel toe. I'll find it by God I'll find it.
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>>541532473
Cute
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>>541532521
Fuck he was so cool I hate how washed he is now
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>>541532521
where did Mighty hide his emerald
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Imagine being so much of a fucking hack you steal someone else's character to be a shitty waifu for your writers pet and internalize them as your own. What a piece of shit.
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>>541532923
Blazefags are still mad? Jesus it's been more than 15 years man, let it go.
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>>541532716
In his hammer space
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>>541532830
>>541532947
where did you get these
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>>541531370
>the best deadly six besides zavok
>sega never uses her in favor of more zazz for some reason.
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>>541532640
If you hate it now just wait til the Sage arc in IDW where they're looking for his ass and going by how Eggman treats Metal Sonic in crossworlds and how much of a jobber he is in IDW we're gonna see him get bullied by Sage just like she's gonna bully Belle because god forbid Belle not suffer any time she's on screen in this comic.

the only hero character in this mini arc is gonna be Sonic too meaning we'll probably hear the same nonsense he spewed at Surge directed at Sage now even through in crossworlds Sonic doesn't give a shit about Sage being team eggman if she wants to go, she can come get it like every other challenger

On that note seeing Silver and Blaze willing to throw down with Zavok along with Knuckles right then and there reminds me how much of a bitch he is instead of the "I can only be barely defeated" aura he has in IDW only Super Sonic can one tap him where as in game Sonic runs circles around Zavok to the point he gave hands to his Forces counterpart straight off being locked up for six months why is it that the zavok clone acted like the real him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNEAiQFXT_8

Sorry for the rant but I really hate IDW for acting like Zavok's this big badass when every fighter in the cast, Sonic,Knuckles,Shadow,Silver and Blaze are not impressed by him canonly and can fold him if he really tries anything even Amy isn't afraid of him at all
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>>541531730
>Just make the series Sonic X! It's not complicated!
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>>541532923
She is more like his tard wrangler
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>Archie gives eggman a grandfather
>Game introduces his real grandfather
>Archie forced to call Gerald his grandfather (mother side)
>Robotnik is now an incest baby
This actually explains a few things
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>>541532975
I'm never going to let it go. Sonic Team permanently ruined her to prop up their shitty edgehog, but it wasn't enough because their relationship is incoherent melodramatic dogshit, and everyone keeps braying about his potential as if he wasn't a total flop and washed up shipping character.

>>541533292
no they're like Sonic and Tails they're iconic they're in sync!!! Just ignore the fact that Blaze has her own super form and her own sidekick that's not as important.
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You guys are NOT kidding about spaz holy shit even his humans look goated
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>>541533292
For fucks sake, this hasn't been the case for them since 06 in canon they're of the same standing just listen to how they talk to each other in crossworlds they are friends and rivals even the sonic channel story makes them out like this, how many times do I need to correct you people? I'm not doing it sexually either!
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>>541533070
There's this show called Sonic Boom
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>>541533104
Zeena really would've benefitted from the Crossword intro's. Would've been fun to see her be bitchy to Amy or Rouge, try to flirt or threaten but get absolute vicious sass from Sonic and also seeing what interesting potential interactions she could've had with everyone else. I swear I get periodic autistic fixations on specific Sonic characters.
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>>541533508
>they're the same standing
Sorry what color is Blaze's rival AI skin in CrossWorlds? Oh right it's white because it's de facto Silver's team because he's yet anothe hedgehog protagonist.
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>>541533080
Chili dogs are funny, because it's such a niche dish from the US that most other cultures can't really wrap their heads around, especially back in the 90s. The French producers of Underground had to have the concept of a chili dog described to them (an then they had to describe that to the Korean animators) and that's why they look so disgusting in the show.
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>>541532923
Can you imagine how powerful the Silvaze ship would have been if 06 was actually well written?
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>Checks thread
>Still crap
>Extend my break
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>>541533613
Just like any other sonic fan, there's a reason people wanted those hasbeens like Vanilla, Gemerl, Eggman Nega, Ariem, Marine, Abe, Chaos, Tikal even classic characters to be in ,it's a chance to have characters interact when they most likely never would without having to write some shitty memberberries cringe inducing story to justify their appearences which is exactly why Dodonpa was created in the first place and even better Dodonpa's presence in the game is kept to a minimum you'll only see him a handful of times in the main menu before you unlock everything and only hear hear his one line "It's frenzy time" once in a blue moon, a perfect way to use a character nobody liked yet is neccessry to create the scenario you need these characters people actually do like to interact with a stupid story to put them there, it's genius really, nobody like Orbot and Cubot either but their presence is still here as well watching the end credits and being in the online menu

this is how sega should be using their casts going forward meaning we need more spin off titles for Sonic through Sonic's cast is acceptable to race but fighting each other would be an issue, playing other sports would be an issue and RPGs are a big no no since Chronicles fucked everything up, Sega isn't courageous enough nor is the fanbase open enough for that to be explored especially when people hated Sonic's combat in Frontiers
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>>541533508
Blaze isn't anything other than Silver's simp who follows him along for no fucking reason other than to make him look cool and competent.
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Woah been a while since we had some good old fashioned KEKENING
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>>541532640
They trade Metal for Shitmy the slayy gurl, that's when you know that they're trying appeal to little girls, its good thing to know Amyshill year was short-lived
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>>541534163
You think and speak like a toilet.
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>>541532065
What’s there to leech off Rouge? Her tits milk? Lol
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I hate this franchise's fanbase so much, right up there with Star Wars, Pokemon and Kingdom Hearts fanbases, it's like trying to talk to crayon eaters sometimes and outright psychopaths who just want to start a fight for no reason, no fucking wonder Zaxx is so hated he is you!
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>>541534298
oh ok
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>>541534207
Shitmy shitters mad
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>>541532640
Metal Sonic has never been unwashed. He was born into the franchised being done dirty.
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>>541534052
I'd of loved to see Black Doom or Infinite not only for the absurdity of them racing while being the more serious bad guys of the cast but since you could really have some fun contrast of their nasty personalities with everyone else or some fun details such as Black Doom's thoughts on Zeti when has a rival intro with Zavok and Dr Eggman mocking Infinite for his failures in their alliance while Infinite tries acting smug or clearly coping. Also Fang not getting in, despite having a canon vehicle he drives, a big comeback in Superstars and being in a previous Sonic racer is actually mental.
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>>541532923
Why is no one buying Silver :(
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>>541534073
For me it's Satan and Prime chilidawgs
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>>541533995
There is no such thing as a "well written" Silvaze. "well written" Silvaze is just Sonaze, which *is* powerful, because its embedded so deeply into her character that the mere existence of Rush and her canon relationship with Sonic causes Silvaze shippers to seethe. Everything Silvaze tries to be, Sonaze is.
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>>541533495
Dark Age Archie aesthetic.
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>>541534163
>Metal is so trash that SEGA thinks making Amy into a girl boss is a better investment
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>>541532923
They included Blaze so her creator wouldn’t feel left out, Silver took the fall for Blaze here. I bet you didn't know that
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>>541534519
because he's a fucking bum
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If you play Sage or Cream I'm bumping you off the road, I have no space for lolicons in my races
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>>541534620
>despite getting two games to shill the ship, it just has a niche autistic following
>meanwhile Silvaze just had one badly produced game and it became a top 3 Fandom ship
Hmmm...
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>>541534587
>Satan
*moving pieces around a chessboard slowly* Ah. Hmhmhmhm. A Freudian slip, perchance. Yes ... interesting. Indeed
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>>541534207
I really don't know what the fuck is your problem?
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>>541534776
>My gut instinct when I see children is to ram into their little bodies.
Interesting....
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>>541534825
You think and speak like a toilet.
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>>541534745
I don't care. Nakamura doesn't give a fuck about Blaze beyond her relationship to Silver. To him she's effectively a different character.
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>>541534405
>Metal's turbine and half of his face are physically broken off by the impact of him hitting a wall at top speed
>Eggman leaves him behind after being defeated and Metal gets dragged into deep space by Little Planet
>???
>Metal is inexplicably fine the next time he's seen in a main game
>the explanation for how he came back from CD pretends his body was visibly undamaged and that the impact just knocked him offline
>Eggman just reactivates him and tells him to go home, and Metal somehow does before being repaired by Eggman
There's no way Metal wasn't originally a one and done character, they retconned his death.
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This fanbase is fucking chaotic is this how you guys have lasted for so long while others have gone to retirement?

Seriously off a couple of lines you got people making videos and malding out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq0NHcXAeHM

How many modern sonic fans even know who sonic was talking about here?

In fact, why is this fanbase so clingy to almost all sonic characters in every medium even one shot characters? At first I thought it was coom, but the way you all talk about these characters makes me think it's gotta be more than simple lust, lust fades with time, could be...affection?

/sthg/ are you?
Are you really in love with some of these characters across all mediums of this franchise?
Do you view them as someone to protect, someone to cherish, someone to pine for, someone you want good things to happen to?

What in the, this can't be it,right? Oh, /sthg/ you lonely lonely people
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Any of you got queer character headcanons? My primary one is Silver is bi, which was implied by some people
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why did no one tell me that sex feels THIS GOOD?!?
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>>541534295
Rouge will flirt with him and he'll be immune to her charms and that will remind her of Shadow and that will sufficiently endear everyone to our cool new protagonist
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>>541535006
In Knuckles Chaotix, the manual actually stated that Eggman had to rebuild Metal due to how much damage he suffered in CD which explains his appearance in that game.

The problem was games like Mania, Sonic 4 and Heroes muddled the timeline regarding the repairs of Metal Sonic after CD since Chaotix was dropped into limbo regarding the canon.
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>>541534881
You're the most childish poster around here, don't talk to me
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>>541535064
Because nobody here has sex you fucking poser!
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>>541535137
>CD involves time travel
>timey whimey don't overthink
solved
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>>541534073
do chilli dogs have beans?
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>>541535420
They can but that's up to the cook or customer
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>>541535231
>the anon who thinks we're all untouched losers like him.
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>>541535064
It's alright I guess. Nothing to go crazy over.
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>>541535137
>>541535338
Reminder that in the "official" timeline on Sonic Channel, Chantix doesn't even exist and Classic Sonic goes 1 > CD > 2 > 3&K > Mania > Superstars with Sonic 4 being the start of Modern Sonic, completely and utterly retconning the placement of SA1.

That means Metal crashed on Stardust Speeday, was somehow revived, lost again on Stardust Speedway, was revived again, lost on the Death Egg and was put into stasis until Heroes.
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>>541535537
oh, from the looks of it i dont think the dogs have beans in any of those versions, unless of course they are not visible in real life chilli
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>>541535539
Himph, I may be untouched but I am not a loser! if anything you're the loser for giving into your carnal desires and having sex
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>>541534789
Silver and Blaze is nonsense. Cope.
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>>541535759
You make a good point, anon.
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I, more than anyone else, always focus on prioritizing the original core authorial intent over anything else as the ultimate basis for what a character is.

That example someone used last thread about Antoine in Archie is inherently a bad example, though. Because Archie Antoine isn't just different from SatAM Antoine. The whole thing about Archie Antoine, both pre and post SGW, is that he started out cowardly and stuff but went through extreme character development. He's like Tails in that sense, he started out cowardly but overtime he had to lock-in and become braver and stronger, and all that stuff.

With that in mind, the root of Archie Antoine is still intended to be SatAM Antoine, and Antoine certainly is not like Sonic where "never changing" is the point. The whole idea with Sonic is that he inspires change in others, and Antoine is basically a Sonic "rival" conceptually. Put SatAM Antoine with Game Sonic, and the end-result would logically be what Archie Antoine evolved into.
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>>541535670
The games that aren't listed aren't necessarily noncanon. Their placements are just TBD because they might be shifted around or have story details retconned.
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>>541535137
Doesn't Metal Sonic get trashed in Chaotix too?
I know there's a bad ending where the final fight doesn't count and Metal attacks a city anyway, but that's not the true ending.
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>>541535670
They referenced Chaotix on Sonic Channel not too long ago
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>>541531730
>Amy go sonic and try to kiss him. Get angry and smash anything that gets in way
That isn't accurate to Amy, because this only focuses on an idea that Amy only loves Sonic alone, and anything else is just a smashable obstacle, and that just leads to the worst intepretations of X Amy.

Amy first and foremost is a loving, bubbly and cheerful character in-general. She is in-love with Sonic, yes, but she expresses cheerful energy towards everyone when possible. She has a temper, yes, but so does Sonic.
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>>541536093
Yeah the Chaotix destroy Metal Sonic Kai at the end of that game.
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>>541536210
>Amy first and foremost is a loving, bubbly and cheerful character in-general.
holy cringe, no wonder your side loses all the time, that shit sounds weak as hell
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what does sex feels like though?
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>>541536157
Sticks used to be on Sonic Channel too
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Also i don't believe sex is real, i never saw a sex irl.
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>>541533281
Do you think in the next decade, we'll get 2010 fanboys demanding Sonic be written like Pontaff/Boom Sonic like how we have the 2000s fanboys demanding Sonic be written "like the wind"?
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>>541536308
Recency plays a factor. It helps that Chaotix, unlike Sticks, is Japanese.
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>>541535006
Modern Metal Sonic and Classic Metal Sonic were recovered from Little Planet in different ways. Modern Metal was less damaged from his race compared to Classic Metal.
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>>541535064
wtf is a sex??
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>>541536296
I'd describe it as like scratching an itch you had NO IDEA was there all your life.
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>>541536210
No Amy first and foremost is in love with sonic and will do whatever it takes to capture his heart.
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>>541536423
>Modern Metal Sonic and Classic Metal Sonic were recovered from Little Planet in different ways.
They're canonically the same character. The "2 dimensions" thing from Mania/Forces got dropped and it's all one timeline.
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>>541536275
What's "weak" about it?

The idea is that Sonic is cool, Amy is passionate.

>>541536503
The idea in that idea is that Amy's "passion" = love, joy, positive feelings most of the time. If she's angry, she'll loudly express that too, but anger is not Amy's main emotion. She should not be seen as someone in a bad mood, she is not a tsundere, she is not mean, she is not an angry girl. Amy is a cheerful mood lifter who feels like she's on Cloud 9 due to being in love, and that love makes her feel good, and she shares that good feeling with the world.

If something gets on her bad side, though, then yes she will smash it into oblivion without hesitation. But she'll just as quickly flip right back to happy and cheerful like nothing happened. She is loud passionate emotion where Sonic is cool and aloof. Amy loves Sonic, so 99% of the time she's happy.
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>>541536296
Boring after the fact. During its alright, kissing and squishing on someone and it makes your dick feel nice but then after its over you just feel tired and most of the time I didn't even get to cum so it felt even more pointless. I don't miss it.
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>>541536503
If you're stuck in the 2000s, make sure to invest in Apple Stock, Nvidia and buy at least 10,000 bitcoins for about $10.
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Is Sonic 4 even canon? It ends on a huge cliff-hanger that's never been resolved.
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>>541536545
So I was right. Amy go kiss sonic, kill whoever gets in the way.
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>>541536635
According to Sonic channel, it is as it shows up in the timeline.
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>>541536635
It's not otherwise Metal would still have the power he gained from that ruins
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>tranny had sex
nice you got your first customer!
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Who is the Sneakers O'Toole of the sonic realm?
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>>541536515
>Eggman upgraded Metal Sonic to go kaiju twice.
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Tails
Cream
Charmy
Sage
Marine

Team Toddlers
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>>541536813
Shadow
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>>541536503
Amy first and foremost is an energetic girl who craves excitement and blood-pumping action in her life, and believes in fortune telling and mystical things. The center of all of that is her love for Sonic. She loves the adventure he brings to her life, and she believes they are fated lovers destined to be together according to her fortune telling.

Amy chases Sonic with the same spirit that Sonic chases adventure. For Amy, Sonic IS Adventure. She wants to be part of his life, part of the adventure. She doesn't want to be left behind, and she doesn't wanna be stuck in a boring life either. She wants to have fun, and she wants to have fun by Sonic's side. And after Sonic Adventure, that turned into wanting to prove herself as a capable action hero that can keep up with Sonic and take care of things on her own, and THAT was her way of "winning Sonic's heart". She believed Sonic would fall for her if she could impress him with how much she's grown or accomplished or whatever. That's a driving motivation throughout Sonic Heroes as well, pushing her to decide that beating Eggman before Sonic is what'll make Sonic "fall in love with [her] again".

Amy loves Sonic more than anything else. She also doesn't want to be a burden on him, but she also doesn't want to be left behind by him either. Above all that, she values Sonic's love of freedom, and she craves the excitement and thrill he brings to her otherwise-boring life. And the one thing she dislikes is boredom.
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>>541536918
Remove tailsnand charmy and you have team ball drainer
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Every married female mobian is fair game as long as you fuck their husbands too
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>Rocket Metal died on the way back to his home planet
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>>541536681
>So I was right.
No. Because this
>>541536681
>Amy go kiss sonic, kill whoever gets in the way.
Is a yandere description, which is not accurate to Amy.
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I'm not takin' my sneakers off I am Sneakers Shadow.
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>>541536820
Technically it was the Dark Ring which turned him into that red monster in Chaotix. Metal Overlord was Metal's biodata copying feature adjusting his body to compensate for how strong he became.
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People need to understand that Modern Amy and Classic Amy are not the same character. Stop assigning Classic Amy traits to Modern Amy.
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>>541537084
So was he Tails' recon robot, or just another Eggman mech?
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>>541537084
Technically Rocket Metal was another form of Mecha Sonic considering he's part of a series. Metal Sonic is a singular robot while Mecha Sonic is the one with all the clones and alternate form.
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>>541536783
>check the comments
>AndTranny commented
Burn xim with holy fire.
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More like Sonic's useless friends
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>>541537156
This reminds me of that meme about Adventurefags seething about Adventure Sonic VS Modern Sonic meanwhile other people think Santiago has no reason to exist as an independent character and should just be called Sonic.
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>>541537156
>People need to understand that Modern Amy and Classic Amy are not the same character.
Yes they are.

The only characters not considered by Sonic Team to be the same is the Chaotix. Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles are all the same characters between classic and modern, and any deviation at all is their Sonic Adventure character arcs (sans-Sonic, who doesn't change at all) which showed their growth on-screen.
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>>541537156
Modern Amy is Classic Amu after I came on her and she had to donate her clothes to cumwill, now you know the truth anon
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>>541528560
>>541529574
These are kino doe and actually makes status quo change up, unless you're a windtard.
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>>541537285
>Sonic is reportedly killed in action, beaten to death by an unknown assailant working under Eggman, Tails is also missing
>fight harder than ever, fuelled by grief and rage to avenge his death?
>No! spend the following "six months" doing nothing but "hoping for a miracle" before realizing we should probably do something
And then they get three miracles all at once because they lose anyway if they don't.
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Sonic 1 took at least 2 days (there are two nighttime zones) which implies that Sonic has spent around 48 hours trying to stop Eggman

Sonic CD has time travel so time doesn't matter

Sonic 2 took a day.

Sonic 3&K probably took 2-3 days depending on the gap between the Sonic 3 section and the Knuckles section.

Debate.
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Vixen pussy.
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>>541537142
>Dark Ring
Which Eggman made to power his robots, which Metal Sonic is one of.
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>>541534620
You fags steel their slop all the time from drawings to tanabata bullshit, Not even shipsfags believe your bullshit, you idiots just achieved making Blaze controversial and nothing else.
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>>541535670
When does Generations happen from Classic Sonic's perspective?
I think Sonic would remember teaming up with his future self on two separate occasions.
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>>541537781
Seems legit.

How many days did Shadow spend dealing with Shad05?

How many days occur in the Rivals games?
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>>541536296
Getting hugged in a bathhouse
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>>541538091
I'd assume Generations happens in the gap between 3&K and Mania.

The drop dash was a compromised move Classic learned since he couldn't master boost yet and that led to Modern learning that move in the present. Then after Mania/Forces, he learned how to grind which reflects in Superstars and carries over into Modern.
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>>541536210
>>541536987
SHUT THE FUCK UP SPARKY
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>>541538297
No.
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>>541538404
Please post your sister's nudes.
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>>541537093
No, it is. Amy's character revolves around kissing sonic and beating up anything that gets in the way of that goal. That's her bit. Amy go kiss sonic.
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>>541534519
Blaze is better in a cum jar
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>>541538446
No.
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>>541538446
Stop bullying Sparky just because he has different opinions about Sonic. This is uncalled for. If you want to argue with him, debate his ideas. If you want to ignore him, just hide post and move on.
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>>541538404
Glad to see you not lying for once in your life. Being a school shooter sure has some ramifications in your mind.
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>>541537118
See it works.
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>>541533479
>he wasn't a total flop and washed up shipping character.
But enough about Blaze
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>>541538484
>No, it is.
No, it isn't.

Amy's "thing" isn't just trying to kiss Sonic, in the first place. Actually, I don't think that's ever specifically been a thing she's tried to do anyway, as far as I can recall.
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>>541536987
Chatgpt post.
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>>541538585
I'm not a liar in the first place, and I'm not a school shooter either.

>>541538671
I don't use Chat GPT.
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>>541537905
Somehow there was a duplicate or two in the volume, so here (You) go.
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>>541537442
Modern Knuckles is fundamentally a different character from Classic Knuckles. ST made a whole song about this.
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>>541538723
Yes, you are and yes, you are a school shooter. Why are you lying now?
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>>541538624
Her goal is to kiss sonic and be his lover. That's her main primary driving factor. Be sonics lover. Ideally a natural progression of that is to achieve that goal and turn it into "be a good lover for sonic" and go on from there.
Amy go kiss sonic.
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Morning /sthg/, anything new?
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>>541538809
We all agree Amy loved sonic and wants to kiss him more than anything else and she will beat up anyone or thing that gets in the way of that.
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>>541531121
I care.
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>>541538734
Thank (You).
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Why has no one doxxed sparky yet like we did for slashy
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>>541538754
I'm not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.

>>541538760
>Her goal is to kiss sonic
When has she ever sought out getting a kiss or tried to kiss Sonic, in the first place?

>>541538746
>Modern Knuckles is fundamentally a different character from Classic Knuckles.
That also isn't true, Knuckles is Knuckles. Knuckles chuckling in Sonic 3, and the song saying he doesn't chuckle, isn't really a contradiction in the first place. That's just a meme joke observation, his actual characterization hasn't changed, to the point that Sonic Adventure is one of a few cases where they just recycled Sonic 3's premise just to force Sonic & Knuckles to fight.
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>>541538809
The usual anger and emptiness, but at least I knocked out both my quota and backlog in one night.
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>>541538947
Chatgpt post.
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>>541538746
Knuckles was a fraud from day 1 and his song only makes it clear.
>Unlike Sonic, I don't chuckle
He laughs in S3&K
>Just believe in myself, won't rely on others
He needed Sonic to save the ME in S3&K and Sonic has consistently saved his ass.

He's a blowhard who overestimates his own strength and gets punished for it.
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>>541538947
That's what lovers do. Amy wants to be lovers with sonic more than anything. Ergo, Amy go kiss sonic, beat up anyone who gets in the way of that goal.
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>>541538947
Yes, you are, and yes, you ARE a school shooter.
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>>541538576
I remember when blocking/hiding was first rolled out in online spaces. It was clearly thin-skinned children who lapped it up. Now even the adults are blocking each other. This feature was a mistake.
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>>541538873
Even Blazefags know that's canon
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>>541538809
Anon posted about having sex and that made me very depressed because i won't get any.
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Douge
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>>541539008
I don't use Chat GPT.

>>541539036
>That's what lovers do.
You're jumping to a conclusion that is inaccurate to her actual character. Amy's goal has never been to kiss Sonic, specifically, and that usually doesn't come up in the first place. It's likely that Japanese culture views kissing as a more private thing or whatever, but I'm not 100% sure on that. But overall, boiling down Amy's love as "Amy go kiss Sonic" is inherently false and inaccurate, and adding "beat up anyone who gets in the way" only sounds like you're describing a yandere-type character, which is not Amy either.

"Amy wants to kiss Sonic and beat up anyone who gets in the way of that" is just inherently wrong, no matter how you slice it.

>>541539049
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>>541538873
Cool
>>541538996
Well done mate!
>>541539068
Trust me you will, you're just attracting the very shy kind you have to make the first move.
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>>541539197
Yes, you ARE, and yes, you ARE a school shooter.
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>>541539197
It's what the games show. Amy wants to be lovers with sonic and will violently thrash anyone who gets in the way of that. That's her core.
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>>541539242
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>Actually i already know all your favorite porn sites and tags!
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>>541539290
Yes, you are and yes, you are a school shooter.
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>>541537459
amy boots
AMY BOOTS

B O O T A
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>>541539279
>It's what the games show.
No, the way you are interpreting Amy is inherently inaccurate.

Amy is not a yandere.

>>541539336
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>>541539206
>Trust me you will
thank you for the encouragement anon
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>>541539409
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>>541539497
Yes, you ARE and yes, you are a school shooter.
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>>541539385
I'm not saying she's a yandere. I'm saying she wants to be lovers with sonic and will violently thrash anyone who gets in the way of that goal. It's not difficult to understand.
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Sparky don't reply to bait.
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>>541539650
Stop grooming Sparky.
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I would share a chili dog with Sonic. I eat one end while he eats the other end until our lips touch, then we start making out
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>>541539650
>siding with a lolcow
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>>541539523
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.

>>541539531
>I'm saying she wants to be lovers with sonic and will violently thrash anyone who gets in the way of that goal.
This is the "core" of how yandere characters are written.

In love with one person but violently thrashing anyone who gets in the way of that is only describing a yandere or otherwise villainous character. That is not Amy Rose.

To frame Amy as someone whose goal is just being Sonic's lover with the idea that she will thrash anyone who gets in the way of that, you are only describing Amy as someone who will thrash anyone trying to stop her from loving Sonic, which only leads to yandere conclusions. And that is not Amy's character.
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>>541539727
Yes you are and you are a school shooter.
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>>541539750
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.

>>541539650
if he wants to keep baiting me, then I'll just reply every single time, as many times as it takes, forever. and ever. and ever. and ever. and ever. and ever. and ever. and ever. and ever. and
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>Yes you are!
>>No i'm not!
>Yes you are!
>>No i'm not!
>Yes you are!
>>No i'm not!
>Yes you are!
>>No i'm not!
This general is a cartoon.
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>>541539727
She might be a yandere. The kind who doesn't kill people. Either she wants to be sonics lover and will thrash anyone who gets in the way of that.
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>>541539013
Interesting reading, but my point is that laughing was and is a major trait of Classic Knuckles that Modern Knuckles does not have.
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>>541539309
>when he sees what the vast majority of those bookmarks are
>when he sees just how many sadpanda doujins of him were fav'd
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>>541539878
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.

>>541539881
Amy Rose is not a yandere.
Amy Rose is not a yandere.
Amy Rose is not a yandere.

"she wants to be sonics lover and will thrash anyone who gets in the way of that." is inherently wrong.

She wants to be with Sonic, yes, but framing it as if her whole thing is being a violent psycho is WRONG. That is what you are saying, and that is wrong.

Amy's priority is not trashing anyone who gets in-between her and Sonic, that is not a thing. That is not her focus, at all. Amy's motivation has been to improve herself so that she can be part of Sonic's adventures without slowing him down, she fights the same things that Sonic does which is usually Eggman and his robots. She's not out there hunting down anyone that gets in the way of her "romance" with Sonic specifically because that just doesn't exist in the first place. She'll affirm herself as "Sonic's girlfriend" if the situation calls for it, but she isn't 'thrashing anyone who gets in the way of that'.

The point is, Amy Rose is not a yandere. She's not a "I'll thrash anyone who gets between my and MY Sonic" kind of character.

Amy Rose is the character who is all about Love, in general. Not just romantic love for Sonic alone. She is loving and compassionate in general, and stories centered around her have always prioritized that she goes out of her way to help others out of love.
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>>541540241
Yes you are and yes, you are a school shooter.
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Sonamy
Knuxouge
Taiream
Silvicks
Shadikal
Vectilla
Trispio
Charine
Mighoney
Jetave
Blaze in the cuck chair

Perfectly balanced
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>>541540276
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>>541537459
Is that also what happened to her sharkspine?
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>>541540368
Yes you are, and yes you are.
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>>541540209
kek
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>>541540431
I am not a lar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>>541529116
Sonic X Shadow, Shadow Gens is the best thing we've gotten since the OG Gens
Superstars is just ok
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>>541539727
It doesn't matter if you want to call it "yandere" or not. She wants to anchor the wind. That is the fundamental problem. Her entire character in the actual, existing games is an obsessive attachment to a guy who clearly isn't interested. At least before Lost World.
You're trying to get a character that doesn't exist from the source material (Adventure 1 & 2, per your twitter).
You want Amy to be a colorful empathetic and kind hearted girl, but her energetic displays are all for Sonic's attention. Not a greater purpose or a love for adventure.
You want to give her Cream's personality because you subconsciously recognize Cream is the character that you wish Amy was.
Stop letting secondary media corrupt your view of what's actually in the games. The obsessive Sonic Crazy girl is Amy's character. You just don't like it. So you cope by calling Cream 'girl Tails' when she's the one who actually loves Adventure. Amy is the girl Tails because she's a younger person who gets obsessed with Sonic and makes her life revolve around Sonic, much like Tails does. Tails and Amy are both needy for Sonic's attention. Cream is content with Sonic paying her mind whenever he pleases. Only coming along when she wants excitement and thrills in her own life. Because Cream, like Sonic, is the wind. The female wind.
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>>541540387
Quills are just hair. She got hers conditioned to stay down.
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>>541540472
Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
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>a pedophile getting closer with a vulnerable
fork found in kitchen
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>>541540241
No Amy rose is all about loving Sonic. Any time someone or something threatens her goal of being with sonic she gets violent and angry. That's her core character. Its weird that you're struggling with this so much.
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>>541539064
He wants to know the secret behind how she runs so fast on those fabulous high-heels, Amy. He sees a fast creature, he's gotta know its deal. Maybe Blaze could be even faster than Sonic with the right footwear?
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>>541540575
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>>541540985
Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
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>>541540985
>>541541019
JUST FUCK ALREADY.
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>>541539773
is the joke that she's trying to strategically beat him by being close to him but unknowingly actually fall for him?
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>>541541019
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>>541541086
Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
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>>541541072
Sparky is underage though.
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>>541540667
Those heels are fugly and she uses her powers to be fast.
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>>541541116
I am not a liar, and i don't fuck the scooter.
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>>541540531
>She wants to anchor the wind.
This is not true, this has never been true, stop saying that like it's a fact when you know darn well the games have not ever agreed with you.

>You want Amy to be a
This is not "what I want Amy to be". What I state about the character of Amy Rose is objective, observable fact displayed by official Sonic Team material. Period.
>You want to give her Cream's personality
Cream is not Amy, Cream is not "Girl Sonic" either, I am not talking about Cream in the first place, stop trying to force Cream to be a replacement for Amy and vise-versa.

>>541540531
>The obsessive Sonic Crazy girl is Amy's character.
No, it is not.

Amy is officially "a cheerful, kind-hearted hedgehog girl full of energy." "An unflappable mood-lifter who never lets adversity get her down". She dislikes "Boredom". This is shown in the games, consistently. Even when the exact way that they write her fluctuates in specific instances, it has largely been an exaggeration of certain traits at the expense of others, but THIS is universally the fundamental core of her character.

You CAN NOT in good conscious say anything like:
>The obsessive Sonic Crazy girl is Amy's character.
If you have any genuine respect for the character. It is clear that you do not, by that statement alone. If you liked Amy, you would not be calling her an obsessive Sonic crazy girl. Because that is not her actual character.

YOU don't like Amy, and don't try to insist otherwise, because you think her love for Sonic existing at all is a bad thing. "How can Amy be the Girl Sonic if she's in love with him and he runs from her" is your train of thought there, and it's an inaccurate one. Amy at her core is "Girl Sonic" and all the romance stuff is part of the "Girl" packaging, but the "Sonic" packaging is the fact that Amy DOES love adventure and freedom just like Sonic does, and that is WHY she loves him and chases him.

>>541540985
This post is not me. but whatever.
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>AMY ROSE!
>Sonics bride!
>Make sure you remember!
>Sonics "Honey" is ONLY ME!
>Is that clear?!
Amy's best characterization straight from her own mouth.
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>>541541301
So you're a school shooter and a lying nigger. Got it.
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>>541540241
Fine, she's not a "yandere". That's a specific label.
The rest of this is nonsense. "All about Love, in general"? With who? Her friendship with Cream is entirely unexplored. Her friendship with Big was a one-off for a team that only existed to give her a reason to chase Sonic so she could marry him. In the actual games, her entire character revolves around Sonic.
She's not improving herself to be a hero, she's improving herself to get Sonic's attention. Her entire arc in Adventure is just "Someday, I'll make him turn around!". It's all about him. That's not love, it's obsession.
Battle drives this home by painting her as a borderline anorexic "boxercise" enthusiast who is obsessed with a slimmer figure in hopes Sonic will finally reciprocate her love. Her maternal love towards Emerl is entirely founded on the idea that it'll help her get closer to Sonic.
You're trying to give Amy Cream's personality. Cream is the character with the big heart. The one time Amy did anything like that was reminding Shadow of Maria, and they threw it in the trash for Heroes, the Advance trilogy, Battle, and Rush. She's the anchor. She doesn't want to help Sonic, she wants to keep him by her side for all time. She's the antithesis of the wind.
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>>541541301
>This post is not me. but whatever.
DON'T TELL HIM YOU FOOL I WANT FREE (YOU)S
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>>541535064
You don't fool anyone here you kissless virgin.
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>>541531921
>aged up Sage
YES please!!
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>>541541346
I never lie, and i never shot up a school.
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>>541541509
Yes you are and yes you shot up a school.
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>>541541583
No i never lied in my life, and i'm not a school shooter.
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>>541541346
I'm not a liar, or a school shooter.

I just said that that specific post was not me, it was someone else responding in my place. >>541541397
>DON'T TELL HIM YOU FOOL I
I can't NOT correct inaccuracies, I HAVE to clarify on the true, accurate information. That's why this stupid nonsense is even going on, because I HAVE to reply every single time to clarify that I am NOT a liar or a school shooter, because that false statement existing is exactly what'll trigger me, just like any of these "inaccurate" statements about Amy's character.
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>>541541648
Yes you are a liar and yes you are a school shooter and you shoot up one or two.
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>>541541108
Lanolin should unironically get trained by Amy.
>Knuckles has those fist-spikes that handicap his destructive power
>Amy is statistically a better boxer in Battle, edging with faster jabs
>Amy actually has formal boxercise training, Knuckles is self-taught and kinda sucks as a sensei
>Amy is practically a girls champion
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>>541541739
You know, when you put an emphasis on the girl part of a girl champion, you ultimately undermine the idea of equality by suggesting this is an exception and not a spread fact.
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>>541541739
Amy is a magical girl, not a fucking power type user.
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>>541541693
I am NOT a school shooter, stop it.
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>>541541857
You are a school shooter and I will not stop until you give up and turn to cops.
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>>541541904
I can't turn to the cops because i AM NOT A SCHOOL SHOOTER.
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>>541541834
In Sonic Battle, Amy's practically a Power-type. Knuckles has stronger specials though.
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STOP BULLYING NINE
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>>541541397
No, keep up, I wanna see Sparky get sperged up and hurt.
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>>541541904
They never even get away with it,
>>541541984
so stop responding to obvious bait, girlie.
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>>541541984
Stop lying, Sparky.
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>>541542136
>girlie
Why are you grooming Sparky?
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How is this general always going 24/7
Don't you guys have JOBS?
FRIENDS? FAMILIA?
SLEEP!?????
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>>541542202
I never lie, and i would never shoot up a school.
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>>541542238
It's the weekend bro
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AUTISM AND PARANOIA.
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>>541541823
Boom Knuckles in this thread trying to lecture us about gender equity.
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I'm too horny to sleep.
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In adventure the first thing Amy does when she reunited with sonic wasn't to go on an adventure with him, it was to drag him into a couples amusement park. Amys entire character is about her love for sonic and being his lover
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>>541542298
Yes you do, and yes you did shoot up a school.
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>>541542238
>family
Lost.
>friends
Who needs that...
>job
Nobody hires me anymore.
>sleep
Everyone must know i am right in this shitty mongolian imageboard.
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>>541541146
No, I'm not.

>>541541358
Are you criticizing how Amy has been written or are you saying that Amy's official character is "wrong"?

Everything you say is based in your own interpretations which is skewed, everything -I- say is based entirely on what the official media itself actually portrays and what it intends universally.

>You're trying to give Amy Cream's personality
NO.

YOU are trying to give Amy's personality to CREAM because YOU do not like how Amy has been written.

Amy Rose herself is the character defined by having a big heart full of love. That is how she's been described by Sonic Team in character profiles and such, AND HOW THE ACTUAL GAMES HAVE PORTRAYED HER. Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes, heck, even Sonic Battle maintains that. But no, all YOU see is "Crazy girl who only cares about Sonic", and you've decided that's "all" she is. You see Amy loving Sonic as such a big problem, you'd rather project that romantic angle onto anyone else like Cream, of all people.

You hate Amy Rose. That is just a fact by this point, and any attempt you make at trying to say otherwise would be a blatant lie.

>The one time Amy did anything like that was reminding Shadow of Maria, and they threw it in the trash for Heroes, the Advance trilogy, Battle, and Rush. She's the anchor. She doesn't want to help Sonic, she wants to keep him by her side for all time. She's the antithesis of the wind.
This is exactly what someone who hates Amy Rose on a fundamental level would say.

Go back and play through every single one of these games again. Pay very close attention to Amy's characterization all-throughout. Everywhere from CD to Adventure to Battle and Rush and everything inbetween and whatever. Cross-reference her in-game portrayals with every single official statement or character profile Sonic Team ever wrote to describe her.

I take Amy Rose very seriously, for some reason, so I do not appreciate the lies you say about her.
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>>541542591
Sparky, why did you shoot up a school?
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>>541541583
>>541541693
>>541541904
>>541542202
>>541542553
>>541542706

I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.

Those other posts aren't mine because I was busy writing this: >>541542591
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>>541542706
Please stop, i don't know why you would joke on that all day along.
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>>541542769
Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
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>>541542849
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
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>>541542849
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter
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>>541542805
Grow up, Sparky.
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>>541542364
This happens EVERY DAY
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>>541542957
Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
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>>541542550
>In adventure the first thing Amy does when she reunited with sonic wasn't to go on an adventure with him, it was to drag him into a couples amusement park
1) False. The first thing Amy did was ask him to watch over the Bird that was in danger.
2) Going to an amusement park does not at all contradict her own love for adventure.

The very first scene of Amy establishes that she likes exciting thrills, and hates boredom. Sonic is what embodies "exciting thrills" that she's missing from her life.

Twinkle Park is an amusement park. It is specifically a place you go to for entertainment, to go on thrilling rides, to have FUN. Amy is an energetic girl who loves to have FUN.

Amy wanting to go to an amusement park with Sonic is in-character and fits with her craving of excitement and disliking of boredom. "Cute couples get in free" is an extra romantic thing thrown on top of that basic set up to add more shipping fuel to the fire.
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>>541542591
Her profile doesn't say anything about being full of love, only that she's cheerful and energetic, which she is. The first sentence says she loves sonic, the second says she cheerful and a "mood lifter", and also says that she won't hesitate to pull her hammer out to beat some ass, and the third is also about her wanting sonics attention. So I was right, Amy wants to be sonics lover and will beat up anyone who gets in the way of that, she's just happy most of the time otherwise.
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ENOUGH OR THE FOX GETS IT
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>>541542397
I feel like everytime I've seen this posted something gets added
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>>541543084
That's not me.

>>541543025
Also not me, in case i have to clarify that as well.

>>541543195
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.

>>541542238
People in this thread live all over the world, which have different time zones. When we're asleep, there are people here posting from the other side of the globe. Of course that'll keep the general going 24/7.
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>>541543387
Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
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>>541542238
some anons have no life or interests outside this general and it shows
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>>541542769
That is not me.
>>541542957
That is not me.
>>541543236
That is not me.
>>541543387
That is not me.

I am not a liar and i don't write like this.
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>>541543271
The profile says:
>When the moment calls for it, she’ll pull her trusty squeaky toy hammer out of nowhere and unleash power that puts any man to shame.
This is NOT saying:
>Amy wants to be sonics lover and will beat up anyone who gets in the way of that,

The profile is saying that she can take care of herself and fight, not that she's actively trying to beat down anyone in the way of her love for Sonic, because that's generally not a plot point in the first place.

Even that one off interaction in Rush never leads to Amy attacking Blaze or anything of the sort.
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>>541543607
Okay now where does it say she's all about love in general and she's full of love and all that other schizto made-up shit you said cause I don't see it there. I do see that she's willing to pull out her hammer without a second thought and get to swinging. And I DO see that she loves sonic and all her actions are motivated by getting sonics attention.
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I am the real Sparky, ignore those fakes
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>>541543491
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.

>>541543549
This is not me, I am Sparky, that guy is an imposter. Oh, but now this'll open the floodgates and the thread'll be filled with all the fake Sparky imitaters pretending to be me, then, huh? And then I'll have to respond to every single one to clarify "that's not me" every single time....

posting in this stupid general would have driven anyone else to insanity. Good thing I'm not crazy.
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>Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
>>I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.
All work and no play makes sparky a dull boy.
All work and no play makes sparky a dull boy.
All work and no play makes sparky a dull boy.
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>>541543796
>>>>>>>>I'm not crazy
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>>541543796
>Good thing I'm not crazy.
ahahah... that's a nice one
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>>541543712
You are not me. I'm Sparky.

Also, don't ever post a pic like that while claiming you're me, ever again. Keep your weird Tails lusting garbage away from me.

>>541543839
Am I the crazy one for responding over and over, or is he the crazy one for making that accusation in the first place over and over with no basis just to get a rise out of me? And at that point, is it even "bait" anymore when you're doing it over and over and over and over and over to the point that you only make yourself look insane as well? Of course, that's assuming it's just one guy... There were people imitating ME in response, so that guy could have been multiple people as well.
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>>541543796
Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
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>>541543995
Get to work on your story sir
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>>541543712
>>541543796
Those are not me, i am the real sparky.

Now let me lecture you all about how blue the sky is according to the following wall of text (that i personally wrote, for you all).
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no me. i am the reeeeeal sparrrrkyyyy...
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>>541544114
>how blue the sky
He doesn't EVEN get that right. He literally writes just headcanons and all made up shit.,
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We should be more like /dbs/ here I'll start
Sonicbro btw
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>>541543995
Uh oh! Someone is a dull boy! Go play sparky, i'll be here correcting all the things about the franchise, don't worry.
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>>541544029
I am not a liar, and I am not a school shooter.

How long are you going to keep this up? You know I'm not a liar, and you know I've never shot up any schools. You only say this just to bait my responses or whatever. You don't actually care.

>>541544110
I can't do that until this person stops calling me a liar and a school shooter.

>>541544114
not me

>>541544185
>He literally writes just headcanons and all made up shit.,
False. I say what's been said and shown in official media.
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>>541542238
I only skim this general for images.
This is one of my days off.
I have no IRL friends.
I live by myself.
I woke up early.
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>>541544324
Yes you are and yes you are a school shooter.
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This >>541544324 post is not me, i do not write with so much spacing. Also i am NOT a school shooter and i am NOT a liar.
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>>541544324
No it isn't, I pointed out that you gave Amy characteristics not outlined in her sonic channel profile and you never responded to that. All that about her being full of love for the world or some shit is just something you made up
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Games are shit, so you guys bully some autistic kid?
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>404 on Sonic Channel
Tikal
Gamma

>white space on Sonic Channel
Marine
Eggman Nega
Sticks
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>>541544615
>you guys bully some autistic kid?
Like that's not what Sonicfags do other Sonicfags everyday since 2000 old forums.
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>>541544476
>I pointed out that you gave Amy characteristics not outlined in her sonic channel profile
Amy's Sonic Channel profile isn't the only one she had. I am not making any characteristics up, either.

Overall, I describe the general impression of the character based on everything I remember.

For example, a Sonic Adventure 2 manual thing or whatever described Amy as having a "pure heart". A previous iteration of her Sonic Channel profile also worded her profile in a different way, though the general idea is still the same but with different phrasing in certain places. And also, there's how Amy has been portrayed in the games themselves. I'm going off of all of that data.

I don't make anything up.
>All that about her being full of love for the world
That is official canon information about her character and how she has been portrayed.
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>>541544191
>We should be more like dragonball
say no more. This is canon btw
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>>541544769
School shooter.
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>>541544615
They make themselves bulliable, because anyone with a brain doesn't go on the net and slaps a wall of text of personal bullshit with the smell of his identityfaggotry, as well as dropping a list of all the things that triggers them.

This place is full of handicapped beings.
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>>541544769
Sonic also has a pure heart. A lot of the characters can be described as having a pure heart in one way or another. Also using defunct information doesn't help your argument because at best you're using a past, now obsolete direction the character may have had and clashing with current intended interpretation. What is says on the sonic channel Is what it is, that's Amy's core character. She may have some additional bits but they're all secondary to that, and if it conflicts, the sonic channel profile wins because it was written by Sega JP. Amy's core traits are she's obsessed with sonic and will crush anything that gets in the way of that, strengthened by the material directly stated in her core bio
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>>541541301 (me)
I found a screenshot I took a long time ago of her pre-update Sonic Channel profile, so you can see for yourselves what exactly was re-phrased or rewritten or whatever. Overall, it's the same info but worded or phrased slightly differently, or whatever.

>>541544821
I'm not a school shooter.
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>>541544796
I'll finish inside you btw
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>>541544615
is it an autism thing though, or a powerlevel thing?
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>>541545159
Yes you are.
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>>541544769
>>541545159
These are not me.
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>>541545159
This just makes my interpretation of Amy stronger than yours.
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>>541544162
spongehog vs shadowbob
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>10 years on 4chan
>never learned to avoid bait award
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>>541544324
>I can't do that until this person stops calling me a liar and a school shooter
These people do it not only to pick on you but to start fights in the thread with other anons who fight on your behalf.
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>>541545229
Stop lying Sparky.
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>>541545361
Sparky will never be your boyfriend.
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>>541545229
give it a rest already

>>541545135
>Amy's core traits are she's obsessed with sonic and will crush anything that gets in the way of that,
That's still not what the profile is even saying.

There's nothing in the way of her and Sonic in the first place other than Sonic's own aversion to romance, and Amy isn't trying to "trash" him either.

It brings up the hammer to describe that she can fend for herself with strength that "puts men to shame", and that's it.
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>>541545410
I am not a liar and a school shot, and i definitely not write like that.
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>>541545459
The memes about mina hating on nicole were funny.
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>>541545440
Good I want Violet anyway.
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>>541545494
School shooter lying faggot.
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The sparky bullies should just play Crossworlds.
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>sparky bullies
Any sane person would tell Sparky to knock it off his autistic sperg retard self. We're not bullying, Sparky just won't learn.
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>>541545494
>give it a rest already
I can't give it a rest, when someone is not me i must point that out, otherwise nobody knows who's the real sparky and they may end up misinformed.

To whoever keeps pretending to be me, just give up already.
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>>541545545
I agree actually, pretty topical too considering how overbearing AI has become lately
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>>541545663
I've been doing the Miku festival thing, but boy is the game good at making me mad
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who dafuq are sparky and violet and all the other namefagger
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>>541545410
that isn't me

>>541545229
>>541545502
these posts are not mine

>>541545590
I am not a liar or a school shooter.

Just give it a rest already. Move on. I'm sick of responding with this every single time over and over and over again in an endless loop.

So, you know what, I'm done here.

You know that I'm not a liar and I'm not a school shooter, already. If you wanna keep insisting on this for your own insane reasons I don't understand, do what you want.

I'm tired of playing your games. I have better things to do anyway.

>>541545739
give it a rest already, my identity isn't a toy for you to play with. seriously.

Anyways, I'm gonna go try and work on my project.
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>>541545494
She has on occasion become physically violent with sonic in the game due to his denying her advances. Also she threatened to leave sonic incarcerated in prison if he didn't agree to be her boyfriend or marry her or whatever . She also took a threatening tone with cream when she almost implied that sonic was trying to get away from Amy. Also she nearly beat the shit out blaze from just assuming she MIGHT be romantically interested in her mans. Also she bullied cream into joining her in some boxercise shit because she wanted to get nice and slim for sonic. Also she stole a robot she thought would make a good analogue baby for her and sonic (I don't remember if she beat anyone up as well she might have). Your thoughts?
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>>541545907
School shooter. I wish I could call cops on you.
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>>541546005
shrek love zone

gaydow
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>>541545907
This post is not mine.

Please stop spreading false info about my persona online, i don't think any of those things you wrote.

I was busy working on my project until you showed up.
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https://xcancel.com/soniccitynet/status/1974501992052457763#m
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>>541546359
I AM NOT A SCHOOL SHOOTER
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>>541545961
>Also she threatened to leave sonic incarcerated in prison if he didn't agree to be her boyfriend or marry her or whatever .
Wrong.

Amy mentions that she saw Shadow, Sonic asked for info about Shadow, Amy said "if I do, will you marry me?", Sonic said "No way". Amy proceeded to let Sonic out of prison and tell him about Shadow and Eggman.

>She also took a threatening tone with cream when she almost implied that sonic was trying to get away from Amy.
Nothing happened in that scene other than her saying "really... what?" when Cream said "maybe Mr. Sonic is really..."

>Also she nearly beat the shit out blaze from just assuming she MIGHT be romantically interested in her mans.
Amy never attacked Blaze in the first place.
Amy was like "What do you want with Sonic?" and Blaze was like "Nothing." and that was it.

>Also she bullied cream into joining her in some boxercise shit because she wanted to get nice and slim for sonic.
She didn't bully Cream. She was just very insistent on training, but she never bullied Cream about it. >>541545961
>Also she stole a robot she thought would make a good analogue baby for her and sonic
She didn't "steal" Emerl. Tails told Amy that Emerl was like Sonic's baby, and then Amy was suspicious about Rouge running off with Emerl to do shady stuff, and so Amy wanted to protect Emerl from Rouge.
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>>541546086
Gaydowposter? Is that you?
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>>541546507
This is not me and i don't actually think this.
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>>541546734
Dude, leave me alone.
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>>541545803
Mina was right all along about Nicole being a massive bitch.
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>>541546507
It's amazing how your mind bends reality to lighten Amy's transgressions just to protect your interpretation of her. You said you weren't crazy? I think you should get a second opinion mate.
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>>541546705
i have no idea whatever happened to him

but i am here to pay respects
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>>541546878
>It's amazing how your mind bends reality
The literal first example the guy gave was blatantly false. Why are you accusing ME of bending reality when he's citing examples he doesn't even remember accurately?

Like,
>Also she threatened to leave sonic incarcerated in prison if he didn't agree to be her boyfriend or marry her or whatever .
THIS LITERALLY NEVER HAPPENED IN SONIC ADVENTURE 2.
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>>541546430
Anons are more obsessed with bullying an autistic person than they are playing games sorry.
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>>541546507
>Wrong. Amy wasn’t being manipulative or threatening, she was just joking around and helped Sonic anyway.
Yeah okay, and politicians just “joke around” when they say “vote for me or the world ends.” Amy literally dangled information over Sonic’s head until he played along. Doesn’t matter if she let him out she still tried to leverage the situation.

>She didn’t bully Cream, she was just enthusiastic about training!
That’s like saying your gym bro screaming “C’MON WE’RE DOING LEGS AGAIN” isn’t bullying. Amy has main character tunnel vision when it comes to Sonic, and she drags everyone else into her chaos.

>She didn’t attack Blaze! She just questioned her motives!
Yeah, and in Sonic-world, “What do you want with Sonic?” is the precursor to violence. Blaze was one eyebrow twitch away from getting hammer’d.

>She didn’t steal Emerl! She wanted to protect him from Rouge!
Bro, “I’m protecting him” is what every thief says mid-heist. Amy saw a shiny robot baby and instantly thought “perfect family starter kit.”
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>>541546824
AI don't have feelings either, they just mimic them based on data that they are shown
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>>541547103
Every single "example" here is just your own attempt to make Amy look as bad as possible by distorting what actually happened.

That's what all the Anti-Amy stuff here always boil down to. It's like you guys make up a new character in your head just to get mad at.

Like,
>Amy literally dangled information over Sonic’s head until he played along.
Completely false. Amy asked if Sonic would marry her if she told him the info he wanted, he immediately said "No way!" without hesitation, and then Amy released him from the prison and told him what he wanted to know anyway. Amy wasn't making any real attempt to hold anything over Sonic to force him into anything.

Training with Cream isn't bullying, she ultimately never attacked Blaze and became friends with her immediately after, and ROUGE WAS LITERALLY USING EMERL TO STEAL FROM JEWELRY STORES. WHY ARE YOU CALLING -AMY- THE THIEF!?
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>>541546783
You stop pretending to be me.
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>>541547625
Why are you a school shooter?
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>>541546892
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>>541547625
>Completely false. Amy didn’t hold anything over Sonic, she helped him right away!
Come on, the intent still counts. You don’t have to follow through on blackmail for it to be blackmail, the whole “will you marry me first?” thing wasn’t cute, it was her pushing boundaries because she knew Sonic wouldn’t actually say yes. That’s emotional bait, not charm.

>Training with Cream isn’t bullying
It is when one person’s “training” is another person’s “please stop, I can’t feel my legs.” Amy projects her own Sonic-centered insecurities onto her friends. It’s less “team spirit,” more “codependent cardio.”

>She didn’t attack Blaze and they became friends
Yeah, after Amy realized Blaze wasn’t competition. It’s not growth if the only reason you calm down is because your perceived rival isn’t into your crush. That’s just delayed jealousy.

>Rouge was literally using Emerl to steal! Amy was the good guy
Rouge was using him, sure — but Amy’s solution was still to snatch the kid herself. “I’m better than that thief” doesn’t mean you’re not still grabbing someone else’s robot and playing house.

Amy’s not some monster, but acting like she’s pure-hearted and misunderstood is just fanfiction-tier coping. She’s flawed, obsessive, and impulsive, that’s why she’s interesting.
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>>541547652
WHO THE HECK AM I "PRETENDING TO BE", WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THIS IN-RESPONSE TO ME POSTING >>541546507

A POST ENTIRELY ABOUT AMY ROSE's CHARACTERIZATION, AND NOTHING ELSE.

HUH!? WHO AM I "PRETENDING TO BE", HUH!?

Leave me the heck alone already. Gosh darn it, man, you guys just don't know when to quit. Like, geez...
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This will settle it
https://strawpoll.com/X3nkPWjaQgE
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>>541547990
School shooter.
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I'm tired of this. Can we go back to Kit-Posting?
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>>541547726
Great now i want that now
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>>541547990
I already told you, you're pretending to be me and you're really bad at the job, everyone knows who i am.

Stop posting already.
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>>541548187
Fuck off faggot
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Post characters who don't have autists orbiting them and shitting up the general.
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Good morning, /sthg/. I hope you are having a better morning than I am.
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>>541548338
>posts the lolibait whose fanbase doesn't even like her, they just want to lust after her
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I swear he's even scarier when he's calm.
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>>541548456
Okay but are they shitting up the general and causing drama?
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>>541548398
Morning?
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>>541548456
I like Cream!
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>>541548603
Yes, namefags are by definition cancer, creampedo included.
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>>541547932
>the whole “will you marry me first?” thing wasn’t cute
Yes it was.

That line only exists there to make her look like a cute girl in love with the guy, and that love is always presented as innocent and positive.

Amy's canon character is "cute and full of energy". She's an energetic girl who can be overwhelming in her passion, but all you want to do is find any way you can to present her as a bad person as much as possible just to hate on her.

This is the exact thing that makes me very frustrated with Violet, 'cause she does the exact same thing but acts like she doesn't. I don't wanna hold anything against her or anything, but that just frustrates me about all you guys whenever Amy comes up. It's like none of you can just take Amy's character in good faith, you always gotta find something to complain about and get mad at. You always gotta find some way to distort her love for Sonic into some toxic problematic thing.

Ian does the same thing. He made the Evil Amy from Scourge's world into the psycho stalker meme and wrote Frontiers Amy to try and "end" Sonamy because he views the entire concept of the chase dynamic as inherently toxic. Heroes Amy is the peak of Amy's characterization, but it's exactly what Ian hates most of all. Anyone who hates Amy always hate that game most of all.

But Sonic Heroes was my first real Sonic game alongside Sonic Mega Collection Plus and watching Sonic X. My first impression of Amy was both Heroes and X. And sure, I criticize X!Amy in particular nowadays, but I had NO problem with it as a kid.

My impression of Amy based on those sources was simply that she was a pink girl who embodied the "Love" and "Heart" tropes. That was it. I genuinely don't understand where all the hate even comes from and I'm so sick and tired of being the one who has to defend Amy here all the time.

My favorite character is TAILS, why do I always have to be the Amy guy? Geez...
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Sparky refuses to make dosh working on Sonic stories whereas that is Violet's main way of making money now
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>>541548859
School shooter.
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>>541548859
>My favorite character is TAILS, why do I always have to be the Amy guy? Geez...
Because you choose to defend Amy over and over.
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>>541548859
Japanese X Amy is her best personalization. Cause, you know, she's actually a character in that and it was produced directly by Sega and team sonic.
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>>541548958
>Sparky refuses to make dosh working on Sonic stories
I don't wanna end up like Ian where "Sonic" is the only real way I'm ever making money, when I have my own creative ambitions I wanna pursue more than anything else.
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>>541548398
I'm doing fine, are you okay amyanon?
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>>541549178
School shooter.
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>>541548859
>This is the exact thing that makes me very frustrated with Violet,
Do you want to know why?

because i wrote >>541547932 and >>541547103 with chat-gpt to see if it was true that you actually fall for it, and it actually works against my expectations.
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>>541549010
>strong special forces
>spend 50% of her time crying and 50% getting victimized
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>>541549178
>Even mischaracterized himself
Sparky you are a riot and a half my boy.
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>>541549128
>and it was produced directly by Sega and team sonic.
Sonic X was not really written by Sonic Team or anything, this is an extremely inaccurate over exaggeration.

They oversaw it to a certain degree, but the actual writing in X is still heavily skewed outside of very specific instances.
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>>541549178
Instead you work on a project that has provided nothing for years and does not prove your knowledge on Sonic
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>>541549210
Not particulary today, no. I am glad to hear you are doing okay though.
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>>541549453
I'm sorry to hear that amyanon, anything we can do to help cheer you up?
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>>541549301
How am I 'mischaracterizing' myself?

>>541549331
>and does not prove your knowledge on Sonic
Why does my own project have to "prove" my knowledge on Sonic? Why is that something I gotta prove in the first place?

>>541549293
>because i wrote >>541547932 and >>541547103 with chat-gpt to see if it was true that you actually fall for it,
"fall for it"... am I supposed to just "know" if a post is AI-generated? What's there for me to possibly know that? Especially when people say that I sound like AI for reasons I will never understand? What does me responding actually prove?
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>>541549545
Stop lying and stop shooting up schools.
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>>541549294
and 100% of the time being cute
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>>541548668
I wish we had more teen cream art.
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Sparky jerks off constantly to Tails pedo porn.
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>>541549543
It's gonna be okay
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>>541549695
what's her shtick and what's with the wisps?
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>>541549737
No, I don't.
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>>541549313
They oversaw production, okayed choices made and it was directed by a Japanese man who has access to a Japanese interpretation of the characters. It's the most canon interpretation of her character outside of the games which portray her very similarly with minor (American writing, mind) differences between games. Sooooooooooooo
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>>541549695
I hate those stupid looking knee pads whisper wears, her design would look better without them
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>>541549545
>What's there for me to possibly know that?
Dunno how, but the fact you can be stress tested like this tella me you need a failsafe to mitigate psychological harm.
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>>541549817
So if we want the most accurate representation of Amy we should watch sonic x in Japanese with English subs?
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>>541549779
she's a sniper wolf with a special wispon that can use all of the different wisp powers

and she's all mysterious and traumatized and sexy and stuff
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>>541549741
here, have a cute Amy
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>>541550082
I'm not a guinea pig, don't use me as a lab rat.
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>>541550149
so that's why her name is whisper? because she uses wisps? kek
ok how does she use them? is it like slugterra where she loads up a wisp and shoots?
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>>541549817
>They oversaw production
So they did Prime, SatAM and everything else.

>okayed choices made
So they did Prime, movies and everything else.

>it was directed by a Japanese man who has access to a Japanese interpretation of the characters.
And yet X still turns to be innacurate somehow. Naka said it's the closest he wants, but never said it's THE one.
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>>541550083
The most accurate representation of Amy Rose is found by PLAYING THE GAMES

... In Japanese with English subs. X does change her characterization a bit, in many instances.
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>>541550280
Thank you. Means a lot.
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>>541550570
School shooter.
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>>541550446
I am a technician, and if i learned anything from my engineer teachers is that every machine eventually breaks, it's a universal law. It's why otgers tells you to stop replying to everything, otherwise you break sooner and you'll decrease in efficiency.
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>>541549783
Yes, you do.

>>541550570
School shooter.
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>>541550446
Give us sister nudes
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>>541550624
I am not a machine. Don't act like a "technician" when it comes to PEOPLE.
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>>541550480
she carries wisp canisters, the wisps just fly into the gun and powers it when she asks them to
her mask can translate wisp language, be used for targeting, and record stuff she sees.
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>>541550776
Yes, you are.
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>>541550149
I can tell this dude used to draw horses.
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>>541550778
and when she shoots what happens?
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Anyone doing CrossWorlds lobbies? or are we sticking to the /v/ thread?
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Amy threatened to smash Chris FUCKING HEAD IN if sonic didn't come out. Sega JP said this was in character.

>>541550531
>Prime
Made by Americans
>satAM
Made by Americans
>Movies
Americans. We all know how Sega JP feels interacting with Americans, they just let them do whatever makes money. Sonic X is made by Japanese for Japanese and is therefor the correct versions of the JAPANESE CHARACTER. This includes the manga.
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>>541550930
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>>541550776
You are a machine, i am machine we all are. We work on physical principles it's also why we break down, you're a machine with flesh and bones acting as pulls and levers and a lot of nervous wiring, the more those systems work in power the higher the probability for you to break down. Aging and body conditions all comes to that, erosion.
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>>541551005
Sonic X is made by Japanese for French audience, actually.
See: Season 3.
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>>541551005
Sonamytard, stop moving goalposts.
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>>541551045
Sonally is my fave partly for how much it infuriates almost everyone of this fandom (windtards, jp purists, sonamyfags). What a based ship.
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>>541551195
K
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>>541550940
depends on the wisp, laser and rocket are obvious, but there's also a hammer and a mary poppins mode
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>>541551375
Why did you shoot up a school?
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Sparky is underage yet pedophile.
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>>541551238
Season 3 was co-produced by 4kids and that's why it sucks ass and I don't consider it canon, see again, made by americans
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>>541550637
No, I don't. And I'm not a school shooter.

I didn't want to reply to you again, and I don't know you even know to single me out every time, but you just had to go an add another false accusation at me, huh...?

My late-cousin a long time ago kept accusing me of liking insert random girl in our school here when we were kids, and the end result is that I've outright refused the very concept of "romance" to this day. My cousin died in a car crash a few years ago, yet he's still the reason I do not ever want a girlfriend, I don't ever wanna date anybody, I don't ever want anything to do with romance ever. All because when we were kids, he kept making false accusations at me, and I always felt the need to say that it's not true over and over again, and that's instilled a deep-seated rejection of the very concept of romance with anybody. Even when I did have a crush on a girl at some point and made a character based on her for my project with Cosmo inspiration or whatever, I never wanted to even entertain the idea of pursuing anything because I still flat-out didn't want to at all ever.

All of that stupid nonsense is likely why I can understand Sonic's characterization of having romantic feelings for Amy but not ever wanting to actually engage with romance in any real committed way, because I can relate to that. And as a result, Sonic's own stance being based in "Freedom" also gets imprinted onto me, which just adds more fuel to the fire I guess. But still, really the whole reason ultimately comes from the fact that my cousin kept making false accusations as a kid and having to constantly say "no, that's not true" repeatedly has defined my identity to this day.

I only bring this up just to show how much this whole thing of me having to clarify false accusations has defined my very sense of self, and how far it can go. To explain how much I hate this sort of thing.

It's the very thing that will literally drive me insane on a personal level.
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That's just Season 3 (Series 2) as an encore for how much better Seasons 1/2 (Series1) did in there over Japan.
Sega also let Archie make American comics set before the end of Series 1 because the show did well in the US too, in spite of (or perhaps because of?) its 4Kidsification.
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>>541551405
oh i see, it looks like a more practical yet lamer version of how they got used originally with all due respect
does Sonic comment on it? "back in my day we used to fuse with our wisps!"
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>>541551629
Yes, you are a school shooter.
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>>541551548
4Kids helped fund production because they wanted more, but they had zero creative input.
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>>541551629
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OHMY GOD SPARKY you're the gift that keeps giving.
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>>541551629
you could be doing anything you wanted, but you came here

turn the computer off and go do something relaxing
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>>541551629
Sounds like you have severe OCD. Your interpretation of characters is compromised because you cannot let go of deep ingrained impressions from your youth when you were much stupider also Pic related.
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>>541551961
>>541551802
>>541551876
fucking losers
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>>541551843
it's based on the wispons in sonic forces
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>>541552203
Why are you siding with a lolcow?
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>>541552221
the flamethrower gauntlet thing?
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>>541551629 (me)
>I can understand Sonic's characterization of having romantic feelings for Amy but not ever wanting to actually engage with romance in any real committed way, because I can relate to that.
I also wanna say that one criticism I have for the SonAmy chase dynamic concept is that the very fact that -I- can "relate" to Sonic here... is stupid.

Why the heck is Sonic's aversion to romance something that I, a socially anxious awkward loser of a person that struggles to talk to people, can "relate to"? That does not make any sense.

Amy is just a girl that loves Sonic in the purest and most genuine way possible, why is Sonic running from that? All that stuff about wanting to be free doesn't matter when Amy herself genuinely values Sonic's freedom as well and does not want to be a bother for him at all. Like, sure, wanting to avoid the actual label of commitment is whatever, but it's sometimes to the point that he genuinely acts very afraid of or avoidant of Amy to a degree that it just doesn't make sense.

The concept at a certain point is inherently flawed the longer it goes on, and it's not an Amy problem, it's a SONIC problem.

I perfectly understand the idea here behind Sonamy and the chase dynamic and why it exists, what Sonic Team is going for, etc... But, I also do think in some way it is inherently flawed at a certain point. The simple fact of the matter is that many people who accurately deduce that Sonic is "the cool guy" will experience cognitive dissonance when it comes to his dynamic with Amy, when you take both characters' actual personalities and such into account.

It makes no sense for a cool and aloof guy to act so weird around Amy, regardless of what his feelings to her are or even how SHE is acting. Sonic is SONIC, he should be fully capable of handling the situation no matter what Amy's own behavior is. Because Sonic is "cool".

But, whatever. It is what it is, I guess.
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What's Chrischan's daughterson doing here?
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>>541552318
Makes sense if you believe sonic is gay. Not like, derogatory, hes just a homosexual.
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>>541552434
I remember the bunch of NSFW pics with that character and sonic, it was hilarious how those fans thought she was as fast as sonic.
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>>541552464
Officially, we know he isn't gay.

The intention is that Sonic is a "ladies' man", he does like women, he is attracted to females. But he does not ever want to be in a relationship, and does not have any interest in pursuing romance or anything like that, he's not ever gonna fall for or go after Rouge, because all he wants is "adventure" and living freely. But he isn't aro/ace either.

And this concept doesn't really make sense to anyone other than Sonic Team and myself.
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>>541552667
It makes sense to everyone you fucking autistic. Sonic is flirting who's averse to commitment, it's not a unique personality and you would know if you did anything but spend all your time alone or on a board full of losers who hate you.
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>>541552652
Horse powerwank was crazy. Didn't Death Battle unironically claim this one could kill Starscream from Transformers?
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>>541552273
I'm a decent human being.
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Man, this thread is extremely trash.
No one is even talking about sonic except two dudes.
They prefer to shit on a guy who's clearly not right, because is "funny"
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>>541552884
Sonic is a flirt*
Fucking auto correct is getting so bad man.
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>>541552948
Decent human beings don't groom autistic school shooters.
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>>541552652
>>541552936
Her whole character is basically just Sonic as a female Pegasus. She's the fastest one, she's the "cool" one, she loves action and adventure the most, she is literally just a genderswap species-swap of Sonic. Not a "Girl" Sonic, she's just Sonic.

Beating a giant robot makes perfect sense for her.
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>>541553015
>No one is even talking about sonic except two dudes.
Because Sonic games have been trash.
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>>541552667
School shooter.
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>>541553015
Sonic fans are auts and the only thing autistic people hate more than themselves is someone who's more autistic than them
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>>541553056
Fuck off man, we're talking about a giant toy comercial to buy toy magical horses
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SPARKY SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>541553181
>Pic related
I genuinely don't understand that human behavior, people get mad when other people are better that them, even in negative behavior, as is someone took it what makes them "special"
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So Sparky is a

pedophile
shoots up school
autistic sperglord
spies on his sister

Cool. Anything else?
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>>541553539
He is also governor of Florida
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>>541553539
I am not any of those things.
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>>541553634
Yes, you are. Stop lying.
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Talk about a low budget thread!
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>>541553539
An astronaut
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>>541553539
The head coach of Florida's upcoming WNBA team.
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>>541553632
I don't even live in Florida, nor would I ever have anything to do with "law".
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>>541540294
>Silvicks
Silver x (human) dicks
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>>541553539
the guy those Dos Equis commercials are based on.
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it just never ends...
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down bad for the bad girl badger
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>>541553539
The largest single person investor in Hasbro
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>>541540294
>Taiream
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>>541553539
He personally funds all the orphanages in Florida after the state cut funding to them.
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I don't even know why I keep showing up once in a while.
This place never change, how ironic the archie days were more happy, when people here hate archie as a whole.
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me and my wife
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>>541554172
We are starting to defend Archie again.
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>>541542397
>No Woefag
0/10
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>>541553764
Shut the fuck up man
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>>541554238
Shut the fuck up faggot, kill yourself
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>>541554172
>>541554252
Archie was fine since 2006, the Hate comes for people having that nonsensical hateboner for flynn nowadays, and and some radical sallyfags, who a lot of people here think one of them is Richard kuta.
Last thread even had a nice discussion regarding antoine.
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>>541554172
I think he's actually crying I feel kind of bad now
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>>541553539
he sold me fent and touched me
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>>541553539
He is my landlord and a good one at that.
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>>541554259
>>541554480
Calm down, Nakamura-san.
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>>541554873
Good. Sparky is to blame for 45% of shit stirring drama we have to force through.
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>>541555016
Yeah but I don't like when people cry man it makes me feel bad. I'm a tender soul
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Silver is straight and hates the gays.
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>>541554674
>Archie was fine since Flynn came on board
Flynnshill.
Need I remind you?
https://youtu.be/eC4TZd18zSA
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>>541553015
>>541553181
>namefaggotry it's just pic related
who woulda thunk
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>>541555237
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>>541555016
You know damn well shitposters disguised as characterfags are the main problem, like tailsfag.
Flynn haters are annoying too, they talk and know more about his personal life than actual flynn defenders in the end he's not that ultratalented, but he's clearly a scapegoat along with Evan Stanley.
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>>541555343
Okay now are just an IDW shill.
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>>541555343
t. evan

work on how you draw your humans you bitch
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>>541555237
Nta, You want me to shitpost with you when you defend Ken penders? nah, man.
>>541555329
Kek I have no doubt he did this in real life.
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>>541555343
Evan Stanley cannot draw Human Women.
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>>541555343
>Flynn haters are annoying too, they talk and know more about his personal life than actual flynn defenders in the end he's not that ultratalented, but he's clearly a scapegoat along with Evan Stanley.
You are just a corporate brand defender larping as someone concerned with thread quality. Go back to Twitter. I would rather see sparky and Violet argue endlessly than read any of your slop.
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>No discussion
>Some dude mention flynn
>Everyone suddenly appears to shitpost
Is always so tiring.
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>>541555540
Can I see her human women
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>>541555343
If Ian Flynn is such a great writer why does Drogune have virtually no audience?
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>>541555529
Ken Penders is a better writer than Flynn will ever be. Ken Penders had ideas and cared about worldbuilding. Flynn openly mocks the idea of worldbuilding, dismissing it as 'indulgent'. Penders stood up for the rights of creators. Flynn is a corporate shill brought on after the comic equivalent of mass firing to prevent worker organization by Archie Comics.
Flynn's 'best writing' was content for Penders' world. See: Moebius arc. The best thing he could ever write was fanfiction of Penders and Bollers' world. That's it. He's a second-rate, a hack. He can't make his own world. His vision for Sonic is stagnant and rooted in memberberries. Not progression. Not bold new ideas. And certainly not themes.
SoJ and Penders both cared about themes. Flynn? Nothing. His mind is poisoned by an incredibly watsonian perspective on fiction that ignores doylist analysis completely. He lacks writing skill. Drogune is a bigger flop than any of Penders' independent ventures.
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>>541555435
So a viodegame shill?
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>>541555343
>>541555559
They are not a brand defender, they are someone blaming SEGA for all of the current problems with the writing and the current writers did nothing wrong.
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Espio reading through this thread
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Evan Stanley cannot draw human men either.
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>>541555753
Man, this dude copy/paste the same post?
>>541555794
Who the fuck is this namefag and why suddenly acts as if he was always posting here.
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>>541554873
>>541555016

>>541554172
that's not me.
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>>541555343
This is a bait post that was designed to derail a discussion into hating on the current writers and you all fell for the topic change.
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Kinda wish Crossworlds had the forces OC creator
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>>541555794
Flynn is shit, but Penders is also shit
His worldbuilding is just random stuff he copied from faggot shows like Star Trek
Kill yourself btw
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So is Crossworlds getting a 200cc mode?
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>>541556248
It has it. You have to unlock it. It is called Super Sonic Speed.
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>>541555794
Remember those times, people used to hate on namefags for being attention whores?
I miss when boco was the only one stupid enough to do it.
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>>541555794
>indulgent
That should be the entire franchise. Indulgent characters bring the audience in to a personal level while indulgent worldbuilding bring the audience in to a macro-level. It's called luring the audience in to invest in your IP. If the creators/developers don't indulge, it's a signal they don't give a shit and if that's the case then why should the audience.
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>>541555794
Fuck off penders, you're the fucking reason everyone thinks archie got stuck in the dark ages.
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>>541555540
But can she draw Human Men?
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Maria should be in Crossworlds
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>>541556510
Judge for yourself.
>>541556009
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>>541555794
Ken penders defenders on this economy?
Wow, I thought those retards were extinct.
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>>541556009
look at wonderwoman's face man
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>>541556557
driving a hearse
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>>541556682
>look at wonderwoman's man face
fixed it for you
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>>541556214
same desu
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>>541556009
The meme is far too generous to Evan.
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>>541556331
That’s 200cc?
Feels barely like 150cc
Granted Sonic speed was 100cc for sure
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the unabomber was a false flag to turn people against primitivism
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I wish Crossworlds had Sally Acorn.
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>>541556557
If Dodon Pa can create AI racers they could have simulated racers pulled from peoples memories.
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>>541556790
...is that supposed to be a humanized Sonic?
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>>541555794
I'm all for pointing Flynn weakness as a writer (not blindly hating him for lame reasons as this place likes)
But defending penders is a line I can't take, you're alone on that one pal.
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>>541556879
sal-gal!
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>>541555794
Why can't my girlfriend have good sense like you?
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>>541556557
>shadow players crashing into maria players and pelting them with rocket gloves and bombs
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Is this ic?
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>>541555794
Why namefags are always a special kind of stupid?
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God with Sonic potentially being on a chopping block for the next Smash and Shadow never winning any polls there’s no chance for a second character or an actual remix in the games huh?
They should just play it force Shadow in even if the community hates him.
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>>541555794
>Name
Attentionwhoring faggot
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>>541555794
brutal takedown
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>>541556994
Yes
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>>541557045
Sally!!!
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>>541556557
Maria, Gerald, Gun Commander, Black Doom, and Mephiles should have been playable in Crossworlds
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>>541557170
how can fire beat telekinesis?
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>>541557138
>Shadow and Maria players bumping pelvises
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>>541556995
Okay go away Twitter tourist.
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>>541555794
>Ken penders lover getting uppity for flynn
>also a namefag
Fuck you.
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>>541557283
lloyd?
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>>541557283
This poll is fake and I am shocked that people are still spreading it around but we now have people thinking that Flynn is not THAT bad of a writer so what do I know about this place's IQ?
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>>541557170
Silver and Blaze should interact as much as Shadow and Blaze (never)
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LIFE STARTS WITH A SUNNY DAY
LETS FEEL OUR OCEAN BREATH
WE ARE CRUISIN OPEN SEAS
CAN'T WAIT FOR A NEW VENTURE
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You guys weren't kidding she really has fucked everyone but Sonic
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>>541557470
Tales of Symphonia.
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People are using one Ken Penders defender to downplay just how horrible of a writer Flynn is.
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>>541557170
Close enough
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CAN YOU FEEL THE SUNSHINE
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>>541557138
>Maria and Shadow players bumping each other (they are making out)
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>>541557689
Penders is a bad writer and so is Ian
Bring back Gallagher, he knew how to make kino Sonic stories.
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IN THIS WORLDDDDDDDDDDDD WHERE LIFE IS STRONGGGGGGGG
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>>541557689
Flynn is shit, but a dude saying penders is master writing planner, is retarded even by this place iq standards.
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>>541557520
>LETS FEEL OUR OCEAN BREATH
I mishear this as "lets feel our wholesome breasts."
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>>541557881
Nah their argument was sound and largely only defending Flynn to Penders.

Pontac is better than both.
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>>541557283
fake or not there is no way japan's picks are so one note, like the other two have shit like cartoon animals, blockymen serious looking gun dudes and goofy characters along detailed ones and anime stuff then you have japan and it's all just anime swordsmen and a gundam
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>>541557816
He sure was good at making funny stories and funny wordplays
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>>541557715
Oh man I thought these two were just normal partners but now that Sonic some vague allusions to past events I can see that they're ~special~ partners. I can't wait to see what adventures these two characters will go on that explores their characters and respects them both as individuals and as a team!!!
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>>541557990
I can't say if this is shit or good drawing, but it certainly is something.
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think of all the storytelling potential that Silver and Blaze have

they could be in sync in Sonic's world
they could be in sync in the future
they could be in sync in the Sol Dimension
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If Pontiac wrote this scene
>"NOW THIS IS EPIC!"
>looks to the camera
>"Heh, much better than helping Tails' clean his pickle jars in his workshop, am I right?"
If Flynn wrote this scene
>"IT'S NO WEST ISLAND, BUT EVEN THEY DON'T HAVE THESE "DIAMONDS IN THE SKY"!"
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>>541557721
unironically a good ass song
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>>541557170
What a good pic, I can feel the love tension.
>>541557715
This pic makes me glad segen never back up regarding the lore 2006 brought to the franchise.
We even got mephiles back.
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>>541558363
Honestly, yeah.
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>>541558349
I'd take Pontaff, no question.
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>>541558349
I like Pontaff Sonic characterization.
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>>541558349
Pongraff's my ass and Flynn's my balls
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>>541558349
>“WHERE YA GOING YA BIG DRIP?” (See: Sonic Adventure, 1998)
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Tails is the BEST!
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>>541555794
Who the fuck is this guy? This namefag suddenly appeared, he's clearly retarded too
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>Probably a doghouse, though I'm not sure since there's no dog around
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>>541558502
Unironically kino
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>>541558018
Gallagher could also write some good action as well like picrel. He seems pretty versatile, though who knows how he would manage under IDW pretty restrictive standards.
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>>541558349
characterization is alright but I draw the line at
>looks to the camera
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>>541558367
slop eating retard
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>>541558503
right after all the other characters
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>>541558504
it is an gril
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>>541558608
This is why I support #Gallagher4Sonic
I want to see him write Sonic one last time before the dementia claims his mind.
No idea if he'd be interested, though.
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>>541558669
ok so now that i know that whisper's shtick is wisp bullets, what about this one?
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>Pontaff Sonic "Woah, Shadow!? But how!?"
> Tails "Hang on, let me see if that's just a robot that looks like him!"
>Scans him
>Tails "Oh no, it's even worse than I thought, Shadow has been infected by an alien virus that's going to take over the universe and tear the dimensions apart! .....oh wait, sorry I had it upside-down. Yeah it's Shadow."

>Ian Flynn Sonic "Heh, guess you LIVE AND LEARN something new everyday huh FAKER?"
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>>541531417
>not shown on x
So it never happened and you're lying.
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>>541558704
>it's a girl
Nah, but that could explain "her" being dumb.
He's probably another smelly Otaku fatso.
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>>541558669
>shilling failgle
Knock off Cream. A failed attempt to make a female wind. (Even though that already exists, Cream.)
Annoying retard lemur.
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>>541558704
Makes sense now. Gurlz are notorious attentionseekers.
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Why is Ian Flynn so obsessed with having Sonic go "F-FAKER!" every fucking time he interacts with Shadow? Sonic has not called him that ONCE in any of the games or official media since SA2.
My God it's annoying
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>>541557672
>just cheesier comedic kids toon dialogue
>WOW SHE FUCKED EVERYONE
Why are you Sonicbabs so fucking retarded and take everything at face value.

>>541558214
>extreme drawn humor expression meant for better emphasizing Eggman as fatso
>"shit drawing"
Oh my god, brain-fucking-dead.
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IDW characters are going to get into the main games and it won't be organic or because SOJ magically started caring about them. The difference between this and archie character begging is that IDW is ongoing in the social media era and unfortunately SEGA pays attention to social media.
They put in the whisper board to test the waters, see if enough people care and now it's just nonstop begging for the characters themselves. Its over
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Shadally
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>>541558964
He read too many sonadow fanfiction and actually believes this is Sonic's petname for Shadow
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>>541558979
You should read entire posts instead of getting angry at strawmen.
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crossworlds has made this pairing now somewhat possible
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>>541558625
The genesis titles must have been hard for you.
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Stop, you're making me miss Pontac & Graff
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>*goes home*
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>>541558781
audience surrogate, athletic tomboy, actually retarded, stretchy tail powers, was unfortunately fused to whisper during their special and has never been able to act independently again
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>Sonic X is in character
>Amy gets fed up with Sonic and tries to force him to love her with magic
You can't have one without the other
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>>541558916
Tangle is another Amy, not another Cream.

Tangle is written and conceptualized like another "Girl Sonic", as a result of Ian completely failing to understand or comprehend that Amy already filled the space he wanted Tangle to fill in that regard.
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>>541558987
>idw becoming a thing in the main games
I don't know why you act surprised, is clear sega is shilling idw at the point we have actual official merch of them in the official sonic shop and website.
Is silly to think is just started when we already have idw characters being playable characters, having references in sonic social media like tailstube and some being plain references by name in main games.
Crossworlds is just another example.
They are already there.
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calling everything "slop" just means you've grown a tolerance and need a bigger fix to satisfy you
you're all addicts
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>>541559227
it wasn't modern sonic so it was fine
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>>541559535
it means recognizing the last good game in this series was 06
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>>541559297
oh so whisper fills the weapon niche, surge and her blue minion fill the powers niche and this one fills the using your own biology as a weapon/tool niche
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>>541558964
Ian "Lore Master" Flynn NEEDS you to know that he's TOTALLY played the games before and knows ALL the lore and references. Did you get the reference? Only TRUE Sonic fans, like himself, could possibly get the references, because he knows ALL the lore!
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>>541559636
>>541558781
Why are you here asking like a tard and not just reading the comics itself?
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>Pontaff "Heh, we did it lil bro. We saved the world just in time for breakfast. Rest easy, maybe I'll have some chocolate CHIP pancakes to celebrate a new day!"

>Flynn "Looks like it's all over chip....HIS WORLD, WHERE ONE IS ALL. Time for A NEW VENTURE!"
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>>541559121
Retard.
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>>541558987
IDW literally wasted it's ONE CHANCE at proving itself worthy of being game material
I guess it was more important to make a heckin ebic chud cancellation story with the chungus wholesome gay birds
Seriously, how the fuck do you waste such good concepts like a Riders arc, or the Phantom Rider?
These guys have no one but themselves to blame
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>>541559693
Why this place cant even try to look and understand how sega as an enterprise works, much less how corporations works regarding scripts.
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>>541559629
>it means recognizing the last good game in this series was shadow the hedgehog
ftfy
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>>541559503
It can go either way still at this point. I think the next mainline is a make or break moment especially after Frontiers had that Tangle namedrop. If none of them are fully onscreen in any regard, references and side merch may be all they become. But again, it's not the same era as archie where social media was largely ignorable compared to today. The fanbase is vocal and Sega uses twitter as an unironic measurement of engagement
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IDW has no humans, mischaracterizes everyone, has no humans, can't draw Silver's face consistently, has no humans, looks like Sonic forces, and it has no humans. It feels more like a fanfic written by an old satamfag who hates the games. This is why people over praise the new manga.
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>>541559629
06 was peak Maekawa slop
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>>541559941
Yes we've all seen the tweet from a random community manager. It problem is that Ian is always doing this in the comics anyway and now the games as well, so it's clearly on him.
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>>541560006
>The fanbase is vocal and Sega uses twitter as an unironic measurement of engagement
Only to a point. They didn't buckle to Archiecucks for decades even with fully owing Sally & co.
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>>541559941
>Trusting HR
>Ever
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>>541555794
A lot of time have passed since I saw a post so hated, for an anon being ultra retarded.
I'm actually surprised.
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>>541559258
>*Tries to eat spicy food*
>*Gets heartburn*
>"Don't worry Silver I'll finish it for you..."

And from then on, Silver only orders coleslaw.
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>Movie Sonic
>”Oh my god it’s ED-209 from Robocop! I’m a huge fan, can I get your autograph?”
>”Uh rude, no wonder they didn’t bring you back for the sequels that no one liked, except me I liked them, Tom and Maddy says no one likes them though, don’t get why, they’re pretty good.”
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>>541560093
>it feels more like a satamfag who hates the games
you're never gonna believe this
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>>541560093
IDW should have humans but the mobians should be racist against them.
Fuck humans. Disgusting, revolting species.
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>>541559784
what's wrong in asking? i am not interested much in the comics yet keep seeing the characters and got curious
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>>541560112
Flynn doesn't even is the main writer nowadays, Evan Stanley is, flynn still does some issues from time to time though.
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>>541560246
Movie sonic has soul and game sonic would really say this.
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>>541559941
Why can't you understand Ian got a paycheck for a reason. Rhetorical question you disingenuous fag.
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>>541558987
Heh I like it when they made crossworlds fanarts of their favorite whatnots interacting with the Game characters, kinda funny it's like their own pure unfiltered headcanons
>"hey guys look this is what my favourites would say when they meet sonic in the games haha"
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>>541558987
>>541558987
>IDW characters are going to get into the main games
Its not going to happen because Sega doesn't care about begging.
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>what?! the manga is better than IDW???
>better slap a tariff on Jap content; that will get everyone to buy our slop over them!!
>..... and sales don't increase
>REEE THOSE ANTI-AMERICANS
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>>541559941
>"Noooo, Ian didn't do eeeeverrrythiiing, but give him aaaaaall the creeeeediiiit!"
Why aren't you putting your names next to his, you stupid woman?!
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>>541560093
>IDW has no humans

You sure?
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>>541560093
Didn't yoy get the memo, from sonic himself? Everything is canon.
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WHY WONT JAPAN READ THE AMERICAN MANGA
ITS JUST LIKE DBZ
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>>541560582
Trumpfags destroyed a 250 empires because they were mad about trannies. Now they'll be owned by china (which has trannies anyways, as long as they praise the CCP)

Communism won by doing nothing, lol. Real communism, mind you. Not the western bastardization of it.
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>>541558987
>>541559503
>>541560006
Mask off. You're not getting IDW tranny-shit in. Don't think you're fooling anyone here.
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>>541560429
You'll know if Flynn wrote an issue because he relies far too much on random, out-of-context references to objects, locations or replacing dialogue with song lyrics despite having no relevance or completely butchering the conversation.
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>>541559503
>we have actual official merch of them in the official sonic shop and website.
Sally had merch and a entire park just for her, moron.
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>>541560582
...They don't even sell the manga overseas.
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>>541560101
>06 was peak Maekawa
Yep.
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>>541560713
Wrong, retarded fag.
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>best pen pal
DAMMIT
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The problem with IDW not having humans isn't really a quality issue, it's a synergy issue. It's a leftover from Sonic Forces trying to appeal to old westfags. The problem is that Sonic Forces is literally the only Sonic entry like this, even Archie and Satam had humans existing as part of their lore. It makes IDW stick out like a sore thumb. It resembles a Sonic fanfic more than any Sonic game. This isn't the same as being "bad" but it's very much like if a pokemon comic had no humans. You would have to assume something is up. The only people this appeals to are people who still think there was something wrong with human background characters in the games.
The manga and the movies make this look even weirder than it would already. It's hard to tell if Sega enforces the comic to resemble Sonic Forces or if the staff at IDW have nostalgic attachment to the concept of "mobius" being this furry toontown utopia.
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>>541560246
That's clearly a Battletech reference tho
Debuted 1 year before Robocop

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Catapult
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>>541560858
they're working on an English translation
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>>541559894
The owl is gay?
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>>541560963
You think movie Sonic would have anything more than mainstream references?
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>>541560246
Now that's SOULFUL
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>>541560931
>The problem with IDW not having humans isn't really a quality issue, it's a synergy issue.
Even to this date, none of the games post Unleashed have humans in it
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Tangle and Surge will obviously get into Crossworlds because SEGA wants to use Crossworlds (and other side games) as a way to gauge interest in certain characters. Which is why the Babylon Rogues, Cream, and the Chaotix are in the game.

People who said it would be tangle and whisper were wrong, there's no reason to have both tangle and whisper as they're too closely related. Surge is a better later addition because it means they can gauge both
1) interest in IDW antagonists/antiheroes (surge)
2) interest in IDW protagonist (tangle)
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>>541560975
So they say.
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>>541560768
And it's deader than disco
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Humans belong in Sonic
>BUT
SA1/SA2/Shadow/Unleashed all had them in and it was fine
>BUT
Go jerk off to the classics I don't care. Bring back humans
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>>541560931
>The problem with IDW not having humans isn't really a quality issue, it's a synergy issue
Show me the humans in Crossworlds
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>>541560768
Nta but that's seriously your argument? That park got ultra dead and was only active for some years. Having a statue on Australia specifically is not an achievement either it wasn't even on usa.
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>>541561109
my counterargument to this is that while it's true, sonic forces is the only sonic game where you visit the mainland since (checkcheckcheck) Unleashed.
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>>541561126
>Which is why the Babylon Rogues, Cream, and the Chaotix are in the game.
No??? They're in the game because its a spin-off and they are well established characters who can increase the games roster size. There's no need to gauge interest in them.
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People only want humans in Sonic for sexual reasons.
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>>541561356
are you trying to say humans in Sonic fuck their pets?!
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>>541560161
>>541560542
It's still different though. Even though the fanbase was vocal, the heads of sonic team and sega werent that keen on listening to anything from them. Compare that to now where we have directors talking to fans on twitter and implementing changes based on those conversations. Sega a decade ago would never, let alone uprooting a whole story ending just to please twitterfags.
After Aaron's whole "self aware" era on there, they've begun to pay more and more attention to the beggars and complainers and making knee jerk changes in reaction to them. Archie isn't getting anything because in their words "they're aren't in partnership anymore" and is presumably the reason why they wont use those characters despite technically owning different versions of them.
IDW on the other hand, has not met it's demise yet. It just seems like a stars aligning situation.
>IDW still afloat
>OCs get blatant references in a console game
>vocal fans complain X character isnt here
>SEGA watches social media like a hawk
>They bend the knee because the idw partnership is active in good standing and "fans" want it
Iizuka is on record of stating crossworlds is the way it is because he saw what people said online regarding the roster of TSR. There's no way in hell he doesn't see the IDW begging and it doesn't start a domino effect at this point
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>>541561054
>noooo please don't leave me, Blaze!
>I have no idea when the mysterious portals will let us see each other again!
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/sthg/ writing the games.
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>>541561356
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>>541561218
>left out 06
Acknowledge your sins
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>>541561293
Crossworlds has Apotos and Spagonia in it
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>>541561498
Elise is the only human worth remembering from that trash
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>>541561332
>well established charcters
The rogues have been confined to the riders games which are ancient. SEGA was wondering if zoomers even knew about them.

>Cream
Likewise, cream hasn't been in a game in forever.

>Chaotix
Never showed up in colors, unleashed, frontiers, lost world. I believe they appeared in forces but I might be wrong.
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>>541561223
>Miku
>Joker
>Ichiban
>Eggman
>Your mom
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>>541560093
The fuck are you talking about? eggman is a thing, gun is a thing, elise and soleanna are still a thing being referenced.
We only see blobians now, because idw focus on the blobians side of things.
This is pretty debatable for the nature of the character but we already know sage is coming to idw too, but sage still look like a human.
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>>541561292
>>541561202
>mere keychains and small merch vs. statues, licensed music and parks and merch
Holy coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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>>541561223
I'm ignoring the non-mainline titles because generally they did not have humans in the first place. I know the point you're trying to make but I don't think it will take. Having shots of spagonia and westopolis populated entirely by animal characters is completely absurd no matter how you slice it.
Crossworlds not having humans is no different from all previous Sonic racing titles having no humans, so there is no distracting synergy issue here.
I'm talking about IDW as a representation of the world from the games, which largely ignores spinoff titles such as Crossworlds. I don't care about the autistic technicalities, you can't show off empire city and have it be full of nothing but animals and have that not be distracting. D
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>>541561126
Lmao
You lost against PRIME dude
The literal baby show from Netflix
Your gay OCs are only desired by a loud minority of BlueSky/Xitter assholes
Just let it go
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>>541560682
Funny you post that, when Japan started to shill idw again, the Japanese localization started to be active again.
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Why would one be a IDWfag?

Just... why?
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>>541561727
>loud minority of BlueSky/Xitter assholes
SEGA listens to that btw
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>>541561624
>We only see blobians now, because idw focus on the blobians side of things.
Imagine if you were reading a comic set in new york and, inexplicably, every single background character you see was visibly korean no matter which county you were in, no matter what the occasion is. They are always korean no matter what. Nothing but koreans. Not a single person of any other known demographic in new york for the entire comic.
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>>541561727
I don't care about your taunting because I know I'm right and you're wrong. I'm sorry you're a fucking retarded ape who doesn't understand business decisions. SEGA wants to see how popular IDW characters are, and they'll test it by putting one or two characters in the game.

Sonic Prime was just an easy preorder bonus that took no effort to do because they already had the 3d models from the show. Oh, they also have 3d models for surge and tangle, funnily enough.
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>>541561126
It would make sense and I hope you're right, but somehow I doubt it

>>541561332
They weren't in TSR or most racing/spinoff games either
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>>541561934
>>541561934
>>541561934
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>>541561840
Is part of the game universe you like it or not.
Also i like what i want faggot.
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>>541561831
...When?
They finished up the arc two years later for the June 23 anniversary.
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>>541561727
Prime was a massive success by Sonic standards
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>>541561409
I said a decade ago, but I realized a decade ago is too close to when forces released. It's 2 decades I'm thinking of.
Its...been that long
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>>541561523
>>541561223
I don't know why you're bringing up crossworlds when the issue is IDW. IDW is full of filler sections where the fact that humans are absent is distracting. The spinoff game doing the same shit doesn't make it better. Why even feature human population centers from the games if humans can't show up?
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>>541561919
SEGA does not care about IDW. This has a huge amount of evidence towards it.
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>>541561976
I do wonder why the release schedule is so slow for IDW in Japan. Aren't translators and editors cheap as hell?

Japan doesn't even know about Surge or Kitsunami because they haven't appeared yet, which is wild.
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>>541562116
SEGA does not care about Sonic either, which is why they try to shill their japslop yakuza franchise over it despite sonic outselling yakuza by multiples.
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>>541560931
The no humans thing is definitely a directive from Sega, and it's probably tied to ST wanting to flesh out the blobian side of Sonic that Forces(both the console and model game) kind of introduced.
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>>541561471
don't forget all the rape and cuck jokes
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>>541560346
>Mobians racist against humans
That just makes the sex even hotter
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>>541561409
Sega have been listening to fans for a while, Shadow05 only exists because Sega listened to fans. Sometimes they listen and make chances, sometimes they ignore what fans want. References exist to placate the fans who want feel like IDW has any significance in the games when in reality they don't. If classic characters like Mighty and Ray can't get into mainline games despite fans clamoring for it, what chances do IDW characters have? IDW sits in a similar position as the Pokemon anime in relation to the games, references and such are fine but you won't ever see Ash Ketchum show up in the games outside of mobile and anime specific ones.
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>>541561928
TSR is the only racing spin-off they missed.
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>>541564889
Are Cream and Jet in Transformed? (I don't know if they are, I don't know much about the game)
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>>541535805
Sonic and Blaze is shovelware and vaulted. Silver and Blaze won.
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>>541561356
>People only want humans in Sonic for sexual reasons.
Same goes for blobians so your disingenuous point doesn't matter.



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