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New Elmon Request

>Current Featured Adventurer Banners:
Tales of the Dawn Heroes(Rinne, Savia, Alt. Adam, Arboris)-Until 2025/10/14

A certain Legendary Adventurer - Golden Beast Dancing Maiden-Until 2025/10/22

Raphaello - Legendary Human Priest-Until 2025/10/14

>Current Reminiscence Adventurer Banners:
Sheli - Legendary Elf Mage-Until 2025/10/08

>Wizardry Variants is available on Android and Steam:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2379740/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.drecom.wizardry.daphne

>Current Events:
Offer Up the Sacred Flame Mission-Until 2025/10/08

[Daily]Repel the Invaders Request-Until 2025/10/15

Old Castle Beta Season 3-Until 2025/10/15

Standard Combat Technique Codex Mission-Until 2025/10/15

Archive of Guidance IV Mission-Until 2025/10/22

FREE 800 Gems of Org (one time) + 50 per week on their official web currency store: store.wizardry.info
ANOTHER FREE 800 Gems of Org (one time) + 50 per week on their new official web currency store: webstore.wizardry.info/product

>Fanguides:
https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ - (EN)
https://gamerch.com/wizardry-daphne/ - (JP)

>General Information:
https://rentry.org/x5xxitrz

>Tavern/Camp choices:
https://rentry.org/2gngvv2n

>Friend Code:
https://rentry.org/SavoryRisk

>I.V checker and Other Stat Calculators:
https://wizardry-daphne.mcwild.net/init_status/

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>>541564818
wtf I want to sex elmon now?!?
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>1 week until anniversary
Gwos...
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im running FighterMC Lana Elise, Alice Rinne(thief) Sheli

i want Livana.
first, whens Livana rerun?
second, who do i replace? Elise or Rinne?
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They're not going to release the new abyss...
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yoooo
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>>541565454
elise probably
swapping a fighter with another fighter isn't a bad trade. Rinne has utility as a trapper and some debuffs if you're into that
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>>541565814
i just like how Rinne looks, such a cute thief.
Same reason I want Livana, but Im gonna miss Elise.
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Anniversary Amelia Alt!
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>>541565676
>dragonslayer in this day and age
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>>541563851
>For her Lingering blossom boost to work you have to die and taking less damage could prevent that
You're rarely gonna use it in random encounters anyway, for threatening enemies, she'll die regardless
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Are STR bondmates more valuable with the 2H buff?
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>>541564818
cute and funny adventurers when?
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>>541565969
I'm still waiting on my 4* atk / atk% / sur to drop
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do we have a list of renewable sp/mp pot places, if that even exists?
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can elmon die already I want to PULL her
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>>541566648
Sorry, I stole it yesterday.
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>>541564818
I look like this
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>pull 6 Olives in a row
the game REALLY wants me to play with her
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>>541567702
I just got a bunch of barbaras too and I don't even like her. All I needed was 1 Marianne for latu lvl3
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>>541567250
wow, very nice grats man
EXPLODE
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>>541567927
I wonder if there's some hidden mechanic because I also noticed that I rarely pull mariannes
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Well, it's a good sign that Jean Drecom is looking sunken and haggard because he's working so hard as opposed to the Nikke guy that just got super fat and super lazy with storytelling
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>>541567060
For SP pots I know there's the weekly one at the end of B8F (fist dungeon)
Then there's 2 spots in Guarda that have them (1 one of them is at the third floor and requires 0 corruption and the other in one of the walls you can break inside the fortress)

For MP there's 2 chests in Port Town - one monthly at the first floor and another monthly in the locked room of the ship
There's also one in one of the last floors of Guarda in the giant room with 2 patrolling sentries
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How good are the weapons and armors from character rate ups? Is the only way to get said gear by using the coins from rolling the banner?
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Been playing this since launch and still really enjoy it, but does anyone else also just feel really disincentivized to roll for new characters? I have most legendary adventurers but I can't even fit them all on my team. I'm not asking for power creep or anything but I don't really know what they can do about this. Seems like they didn't think this far ahead.
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Wow, i really should have changed my proficiency to 2H when i used my daily reset, i didn't realize my Masketta was actually doing like a third of the damage my Gerulf and Lana are doing with halberds.
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>>541568780
It matches its shit tier duck hunt gameplay too.
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>>541569328
That's the problem with the game's gacha, if you're not a salaryman whale, rolling getting characters means almost nothing to you because of inherit and discipline mechanics.
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>>541569328
I'm still using my starting party lol. Considering both skill inherits and discipline, I'm simply investing too much in my current party to make new characters valuable.
Also I feel too attached.
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why doesnt sheli have a secret art when i put her in the middle backrow? in fact, she has no ultimate skill at all
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>>541569859
too sleepy
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>>541569859
ultimate skills are useless
spend 30 mp/sp for something worse than lv 2 FPS
Astral Break is probably the best one and that's because of double porto
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>>541569328
>feel really disincentivized to roll for new characters
Yah. I'll only roll for alters now since then I can guarantee they'll get Disciplines or new adventurers I really liked the design (like benis or shiou)
The gem economy simply isn't good enough for me to want to roll for anything else
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ASHA ALT WHEN
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>>541570037
fuck off metanigger. some just want to see nice animations of their oshi being cool and cute.
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>>541569859
her sleep nuke is her secret art
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>>541569328
I figured this out early on and now I've saved 125k since launch. When they screw up and make a limited character too good (and also don't stealth nerf it during the first week) I'm gonna D6 it
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>>541569328
no, I just use who I want
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>>541570143
fucked up how half the thread doesn't realize just roll on half anni/anni because the rates are actually increased for getting a Legend AND YOU CAN GET ONE OF THEIR GACHA WEAPONS FOR 25 FUCKING CURRENCY
Granted, they are worse than ebon weapons in their focused stat but Shadow Lpd gives like a shitton in evasion and accuracy as opposed to regular ebon lance.
I would greatly encourage f2p to roll on this bargain bin of recently released adv.
>>541570284
All the secret art teq use the same animation for the LA spells, she actually as her own for sleep nuke
>oshi
Holoen is so fucking dogshit to what it did to the hobby
Paid concerts fuck you
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Limited legendaries I like:
Livana, Aldric, Galdabus, Iarumas, Savia, Rinne
Limited legendaries I use:
Rinne
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>>541569328
yes, earlier today i felt like i wanted to do a couple rolls on dancer debra banner(just because she looks cool), then i realized she wouldn't even be strong enough to replace anyone on my current team and decided not to
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>plunderer's left hand
this is good, right?
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Limited legendaries I like:
All of them
Limited legendaries I use:
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Abenis :D would be the best adventurer if JD add her to the standard pool
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she's unfortunately not beating lana yet
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lionman fighter when?
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>>541569305
Coins or purple bones.
I wouldn't go out of my way for any of the pieces unless its bonus effects are strong enough at base to justify potentially using a white item at +10, which has really only been 2 or 3 of them so far.
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>>541571769
Samurai Abe for Anniversary.
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4th nyabyss?
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So there's no reason to hoard adventurer bones right?
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>>541572993
Abenis is very much Lord-coded however.
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>>541573191
if you dont want to get future generic new class adventurers or get the "free" lego bone from the lego event, then no
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>>541569328
>does anyone else also just feel really disincentivized to roll for new characters?
Absolutely, and imo that's a good thing. Legendaries being sidegrades at best might be bad gacha design but it's good game design
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>>541567702
GIWTWM
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>>541573191
There is, we had an event that gave you a legendary bone when you rolled a legendary through the generic bones
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that one guy who got 3 legendary bones from the event and 2 of them were adams
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>>541574124
I got 3 fucking adam from dancer debra
but you forget at higher levels, his skill adds MP UP
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>>541573213
I hope that means enchant light, undead and demon killer traits, and a chance to follow up attacks with 0 cost badi.
Oh and give here LABADIOS too.
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>>541574124
>>541574253
GIWTWM
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4th abyss should have an enemy that chases you down if you take too long on a floor.
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>>541574507
Morgus!
He also commands all the FOEs on the level to move to your location.
When he spawns on the floor, hooks are disabled.
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I have no tags for abyss 4...
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>>541574124
Could be worse, he's a great inherit
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>>541574403
zesty ass elf
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>>541569328
lol yeah I'm not looking forward to the anni banner because I will have to get another character to 60
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>>541569328
this is why we told you that alice, yek and lana are eternally meta
Even gerulf maybe. But I still roll units I really want to have more flexibility and also it's more convenient to send them to dispatches compared to ragtags I won't properly build
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AAAA I WANT TO BE LEVEL 70
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>>541576870
Haze farm is chill, if you are looking to be max lazy ass just dispatch that motherfucker.
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>join the Adventurer's Guild
>never go on adventures/requests
>drop in every day for gibs from Arna
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gerulf alternate style waiting room
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Thiefbros we'll final get Advanced Sneak Attack on Christmas...
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Could there be a class that acts two times a turn?
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Shiou when you tell her to do her nuke
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>>541577890
Lord
Fighter Turn and Priest Turn.
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>>541577332
>New Ninja Skills learned
>
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uhmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnn
nyu nyabyss?
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>>541578379
That would actually make it good but probably OP
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>>541578487
>Poison Kunai
>Requires Kunai
>deals double digit damage every turn for three turns
>single target
>doesn't stack
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>>541569328
>>541569578
>>541569598
One thing I could think of to force people to use more of their pool of characters would be multi-party gimmicks in side dungeons that would require the player to swap parties to progress.

>Masketto needs to delve some cursed fetid dungeon that physically fucks people up through prolonged exposure to it either from natural toxic gas or some magical curse.
>Masketto unaffected because ghulman.
>Can only use party members up to a checkpoint in the dungeon, which has a Harken shrine, then have to swap party members at said Harken to go further than you already have. Used party members cannot enter the dungeon either until the player clears it or the player Wheels back.
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i just finished class changing 6 of my characters, they better not introduce level 70 next abyss...
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>>541579069
rumeow
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>>541579069
Bro they give class return vouchers out like candy
I have like 20 and I haven't even checked the one they have out now.
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>>541579069
>class changing one week before the next max lvl increase
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>>541578927
Twice the output means double the resource consumption tho.
Lord's could also be balanced to either have their skills/spells cost a bit more or their SP/MP growth not be as high as a fighter's or priest's for their respective resource.
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>>541579069
There is a reason why they give you so many class change tix
It is all bait
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>improvements to auto battle releases
>enter dungeon
>collect chests
>exit dungeon
>repeat
>requires adventurer's pass (elite) to use
would you pay?
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>>541577890
would getting two actiond a turn fix the k***ht class?
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I hope the 4th abyss has walking on snow sfx on every step so I can get asmr'd while I get fucked in the ass by a deer ambush
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>>541580854
The GWO will be Santa from hell... Satan
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>>541580731
I quit FEH for that bullshit and don't think i won't do it again
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>>541580731
Yeah probably.

But really this is just so mages dont' get completely cucked. Though this is going to make makanito the most OP spell in the game.
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>>541580731
That's just paying for being too lazy to write a script, it's fine
I guess it might make f2p nocoders twice as mad though
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>enter King's Trial every character except Masketta and Lana is sent to the paralysis gulag
Uhhh....
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>>541582158
savor the risk
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>>541581707
no, this will make sheli the most op mage in the game
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savor the dick
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>>541574403
>>541574253
at least I got a 100 Arboris after pulling 90 last time ;_;
I just want the cooler Adam
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which daphne would be the best at loving your cock? (giving worshipping blowjobs with lots of tongue play and kissing)
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>>541583536
raffaello
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>>541583342
too late for that.
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>>541583536
Alex
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>>541569328
>damn this chick is hot shes going into my party
>sent to the ore mines 24/7
Tale as old as time
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I just want to be able to set mages and priests to cast spells during auto instead of going in and whacking things with a staff
It's not that fucking hard to code this, Drecom
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How are you guys levelling up MC other classes? It's such a a long grind I assume most are stopping with the passives?
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>>541583342
No seriously. Go into ship 2. Cast Lv1 Makanito with any level 60 character. Doesn't have to be a mage. Everything in there is incredibly vulnerable to it. If they allow mages to set the autobattle spell of their choice, we officially enter the instant death mage/ninja meta
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I got an error saying something like "debugger attached" and the game crashed
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>>541584228
i already 1 shot everything in ship 2 with my 6 fighters auto team
dont really need makanito for that
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>>541580854
Deer ambush you say? Hope precum take notes from frigid outskirts, which was from the objectively best dark souls game
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Drecom says they're going to improve autobattle, but i know for a fact the second they release the update, pressing auto will just crash the game
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>>541583536
Albano
Especially forma de la warpeds
Imagine all that room in his mouth and the blow-hand-job techs he'd be able to use
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>>541573191
Wait until the anniversary if you're going to be stupid and use standard bones. Anyone dumb enough to fall for the free legendary event a month ago will be coping hard when they update the rooster in a week, that doesn't mean you should use the bones after the update though, keep holding until the next free legendary event for maximum payout.

To answer your question, there's plenty of reasons so don't touch them until you're smart enough to make your own decision.
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>>541584178
You'd max out a class after you get 1 good drop. If its ninja then 2 drops
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>>541584178
My NinjaMC is still lvl 57
It just takes time
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>>541584178
Give him a bow and throw him in the back row forever
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Uh, so we can get 100 gems a week now???
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Ok I bought:
>Priest Asha
>Mage Marianne
>Mage Elda
>Fighter Kiriha
>Thief Savia

And I'm saving the last one in case Livana gets her class change at anniversary.
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>>541579035
Would be cool even if it ends up as lame as PT1 has to stand a switch to open path for PT2.
Could be extra crazy and you have to jump back and forth between the two in order to have the correct paths open to traverse the dungeon.
Would never work seeing how many people got filtered by the statue puzzle.
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>>>Mage Elda
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>>541585598
Dark Thaumaturgy, bro.
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I bought Dino Ninja
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>>541586194
???
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>>541585313
John Drecom assume the english speaking community is too retarded to use a translate button for their JP tweets.
So yeah enjoy the double dip until they nuke the old store.
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>>541584178
backrow, ninja cave, morgus xp buff
did that with the doll events
if I'm just doing dailies and logging or easy content I always make sure I'm on a class I can still level
it adds up over time
I usually use tomes to hit 20~ before I start
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>>541585316
pull up the patch notes, I'm pretty sure they already gave a date for when they add her class change to the event exchange
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>>541584402
Dark Souls 2 is the only one I've fully completed to this day. The other games aren't bad, but life aways got in the way and I'd put it down for months only to start from scratch again. Maybe Majula just has that perfect melancholic yet cozy wombo combo?
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Seems like this will take fucking forever to get?
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>>541589839
That's literally the entire main story on all routes, so yes.
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>>541589839
most if takes a day or two
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>>541587290
A competent dev team would have a seamless transition, maybe with a few hours of overlap between old and new sites. Well actually a competent team would just have one store to begin with, but hey their loss is our gain.
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>>541589839
At most there's a few sidequests, you naturally get those just by playing the game.
Nice goal to get all of those as a beginner, you graduate from being a noob after you get them all.
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Enjoy your negative gems when JD figures out how to fix it
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>>541589839
Str you get right away
Vit 1 after finishing tutorial dungeon
Dex 1 you get by exploring Port Town normally
Speed after doing one of Port Town's side quest
Pie after finishing Port Town one time

Those are the main ones you can get without much a hassle
Now for the earlier Luck ones

Luck 1 you should ask how to do it here since it's not that clear what you need to do
Luck 2 don't worry about it for now
Luck 3 is do said side quest of Port Town 3 times
Luck 4 you'll get just by playing Port Town
Luck 5 will take some time as you'll need to clear Port Town 3 times
Luck 6 you should ask here how to do it
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how do i save Maurice for the Bond?
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>>541589730
Should i turn rinne into a bow thief? Should be nobrainer but i also have her art of assassination at lvl 3 lol. Its quite fun
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Halloween Alice will be a must roll huh
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>>541590956
You go send Elmon
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I am ready for notgarbage.
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>>541593779
me whenever lulu speaks
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>>541594487
I think your image is missing a zero there, anon
>>541593779
I don't get it
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Daniel is pretty cool.
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>get ring to +20
>last slot is div
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so is there gonna be a special banner for anni? or do i just hold until the new class (ranger or w/e)
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>>541595894
haha
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>>541598627
That'll be great for the fairy bishop
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>>541598112
Definitely
Also a halloween alt
This month should be milking the whales dry
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>>541598112
Ranger at the end of the year probably so you got time to recover.

There will be an anniversary character and possibly even more good banners. The current multi-character banner IS a special anniversary banner with a whopping 8% legendary rate and no global pool legends.
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>>541598736
Is the fairy bishop going to ride on it like the chinese cultivation novels
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finally got a really good ebonsteel dagger... after 1H weapons got left in the dust
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>>541594487
I had 20k for Samurai kot and rolled her 0 times
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>>541569328
They should add some way to transfer inherited skills from one character to another
That's realistically the only way they could make it feasible for non-whales to keep up with newly released characters, they could also make it like some big thematic deal with you having to sacrifice the character you spent a lot of time with
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The part about discipline on the wiki says featured stats on legendary adventurers give 4 eva at d1, I know savia gets 8 thought, is her "greatly increases" one tier above featured stat and just not listed on the wiki? Who else has single stat disciplines like that
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>>541603996
christmas flut.
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>>541570037
get back to me when FPS can do AoE, until then ultimate skills and mages have their use
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>>541604113
are the seasonal skins free or u actually have to roll for them?
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>>541598112
The new class is a new elf paladin.
My mom works at drecom.
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im gonna say it wow elves are cringe
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>>541598627
ABEcore. She gets attack from DIC.
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>>541604979
The eyebrows are too long.
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>>541605478
what if the new class is monk?
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he's me
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>>541606676
You need to fix your back gwo.
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>Use Debra thief after a long time keeping her as knight
>First chest opening
>Detect: 87
Wow i forgot how dumb beastfolx are
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>>541606676
Mr burns?
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Wow so I really have to clear all of Act 2 again with every request maker to get all these lamps?
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>>541607221
Yes, but is much easier this time because you should be able to bumrush to the end cause you can reverse statue and do things like kill arena 1 boss or oarship without turning off statue. You can do that right gwo?
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>>541607221
Enjoy 3 times the content with minimal changes!
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Spear gevulf gets the killing blow.
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>>541607559
gerulf is so lucky
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>3rd District - Iron Gate Street. Complete the inspection on Guane territory
what does this mean
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Nyo... it happened again
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>>541607559
>wild strike
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>>541607862
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halberds are genuinely so good wtf
they do almost as much as an axe but without stat costs
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>going to +20 when you don't have alter
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>>541607806
Once you progress far enough, you get called away for a sidequest to investigate Guane "The Cock" Johnson.
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Help anons idk what to do or farm my mc is level 30 and did one time travel
i posted in the last thread but i can't see the replies
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>>541606882
um, Ackshually beastfolk* are an int bonus race
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>>541608980
You don't. Just keep progressing until you hit a wall and just use what you find. Make sure to upgrade your gear that you do use too. +5 is fine for now.
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Feels like the hardest part of the iron exam is finding the actual boss in one of the three spots
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>>541608940
is there a spot i can wheel to or something? I already did port once
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>>541609371
If you waste too much resources before finding the boss, it's best to just exit and try again.
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>>541607862
+20 armor doesn't seem worth it to me. You are paying 300k just to get a 10 extra def if the last line flop. At least weapons get the extra attack
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>>541609371
>>541609529
The trick is to flee from any fights you fail to avoid and then try to avoid them so you can save sp/mp
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>>541571113
how does this banner benefit F2P? theyre all bricks save for rinne, who is a great inherit and decent thief if you actually run one
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>>541609425
Wheel to whatever checkpoint is just before entering the 3rd floor I guess.
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I miss using the halberd
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>>541609809
It doesn't, it's massive bait, like, oh, every limited single banner so far
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the alter banners weren't bricks thoughdesu
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>>541585313
How do I do this?
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gwos, every banner is brick... your supposed to save all ur gems and never use them
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There's still a chance that anniversary unit is massively overpowered you know
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>>541610248
enter into the stores in the OP and claim your free jims.
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>>541604441
Flut was free extra copies had to be rolled for.
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>>541610248
https://webstore.wizardry.info/product
https://store.wizardry.info/
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>>541610521
Yeah, whoever has the highest value of F2P gems when the game shuts down gets haunted by Lulu in real life.
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>>541610759
>Minor inconvenience at work
>Lulu tells me to keep escalating till I get the electric chair
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what subclass do you think theyll throw on Livana?
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Forgot about my free stripper kot! Here she comes!
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>>541611121
Hmmmm, nyo.
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How important are the normal stats for rings? (i.e. not the blessings) I have a 4 star iron ring and 4 star steel ring, but I'm already have access to ebon rings. I have also not started the trial stuff because I don't have 2 good fighters or 2 good mages yet.

What's my best course of action?
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>>541611118
mage
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>>541611121
>>541611206
AAAAAAAAAAA
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>>541610954
If you kill your enemies you win.
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>>541611231
only gear that has useful stats are the weapons and the shoes
maybe the chestpiece, headgear and shields but those are pushing
Everything else needs to have an unique trait on it for you to even consider their stats
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>>541611380
bricked
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>>541611231
It’s just a fairly small amount of defense, so I would just prioritize whichever has the best blessings.
As most of all your other gear is Steel or better missing out on that little bit of defense is trivial.
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>>541611443
Actually, now that I think about it probably should have pulled what bones I had before the merge deadline. Then again the RNG might have been different. Also VIT bricked.
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>>541611438
Substats like Resistance, and Accuracy scale higher on higher tier gear though as well.
Using better gloves essentially means you don’t need to waste any lines on accuracy. Better helmets means you’ll just outright resist random status effects like succ charm more of the time etc without needing to dedicate any lines to it.
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>>541611380
You just need one more and you're set.
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>>541611794
Just use one of your normal Debras as the main one and merge it to her
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>>541611118
I was thinking Knight since it's the only other class that can use 2H axe, but Savia got a Thief class change and can't use Spear at all so the worst case scenario is Mage.
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>>541612058
nta but i pulled one of these debra dancer
she is bad?
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>>541612172
isnt this bitch a mage hunter? lol, lmao even
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>>541612193
When you merge, it sets the Fortitude and Bonus Points of the combined unit to whichever one was used as the base.
So if you pull a low fortitude, or low BP alt, you can just stuff them into a better regular version of the character and get rid of those shortcomings.
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>>541612193
She's an alter of the existing Debra
Alter characters you either merge with their originals or merge one of the originals to her
This makes so you can change between the two styles and it gives a stat boost for it

The one you choose to go to the merge menu becomes the main one so all the bonus points and fortitude is from that one
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>>541611984
I actually hadn't thought about it, but I guess I should pull one more to get that sweet double dip on discipline. Drecom, you sly fuck.

>>541612058
I have this Debra that's been with me since the start, before we knew about Boon autism. I don't remember what I put my BP into, but is it possible to tell what boon this is? I do have a Strength booned Debra I was too lazy to level up, but I might make that one the "base version"
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>>541612846
go to change class and check her knight stats
this is supposed the base stats for that class on her
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>>541613184
I thought boons were unique to each class? Or is that not the case?
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holy fuck why is this vampire such a nigger
double turns, gets a clone as an add, both spam charm, aoe-spellbind, and have insane evasion that I can't debuff because my entire party is spellbound before I can even act
I even have charm resist gear but they just don't give a shit and land it 100% of the time
Do people just farm the Sword of Promises by speedrunning the bad ending?
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>>541610718
Thanks.
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>>541614017
>Do people just farm the Sword of Promises by speedrunning the bad ending?
yes lol
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>>541614096
Get it from both sites. You should have 800 x2 50 x2
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>>541613350
It can be it cannot I'm not too sure myself
looks like 5bp into str and 3bp into dex
at lvl60 you should've gotten 4 extra point in that stat since there's no 4 extra stat like that yours looks neutral

Got some stats from the wiki to check
str iq pie vit spd dex luck total hp mp sp
Deborah Beastman 44 42 33 48 70 67 61 365 423 23 147
Deborah Beastman 48 42 32 55 67 65 51 360 426 23 147
Deborah Beastman 55 42 31 50 67 65 51 361 424 23 147
Deborah Beastman 57 42 30 49 67 64 50 359 424 23 147
Deborah DEX Beastma 46 43 30 49 69 72 52 361 424 23 147
Deborah 5DEX Beastm 43 43 31 49 67 76 50 359 424 23 147
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>you fill me with pride
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>>541614576
Hmmm, yeah my Debra looks pretty neutral to me (Iarumas is cumming right now). Dancer Debra wants Evasion, which means I want Speed anyways.

I'll pull another copy... when she's in the next 4-pack bundle. They skipped Sheli in favor of Fancy Adam this time so I'm predicting they'll leave out Shiou next time to have another standard costume. Though I guess Summer Yek technically came first, but I don't know if they'll treat seasonal skins differently.
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So what to buy here?
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>>541612541
>>541612608
Oh i merged her with my main debra because she's around discipline 5. If i switch to her alt style i will still get to use the discipline skill?
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does Lana get less annoying after the King's Trial?
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>>541615420
All the codices
Also if you scroll down there's 100 lustrous ore for 10k points which i think it's pretty decent.
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>>541615420
Get the codices. Those only show up in events that actually have exchange shops and the occasional kill 300 slop chores.
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>>541615420
Don't buy ore, gold is too easy to farm
I don't think the 12.5k / 25 xp is a good deal
Get the 4k one and the 25k 100 xp then grab passive books and maybe the 2k Adv bone
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>>541615420
codexes and the discounted bone
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gyame nyot gyood
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>>541615528
Ah I got it
You'll need both to be at least Discipline 1 so they can joint both Disciplines
Kinda scummy? Yes

For example here's my Yeka with her alter at Discipline 2 + the Discipline 4 I think from her normal version so that makes both Discipline 5

So without her being at least Discipline 1 the alter will not get the effects of the Discipline from the original character
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'ello, newbab here. I played Wizardry games before, I just wanna know more about the gacha side. I'm guessing I should I save my freebie pulls for the anniversary banner coming up? thx
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>>541616573
Thanks for the help anon
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What did this bitch fucking eat
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What do I do with all of these Debbies? I only have 1 Dancing Debra and I don't want to roll for a second. Uncertain of the best course of action.
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What's the best skill book in the Sheli exchange?
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>>541615567
>>541615647
>>541615797
Let's say the choice is between the 25xp codex or two of the skill books (you end up with 16000 points if you buy the discount codex, discount remains, intermediate codex and place top 5000), which is better?
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>>541617246
Holy sexo character i hope she become a standard banner character
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>>541617082
You should buy a starter account for like 8 bucks that comes with 50k+ gems, use 2k to up your inventory limit to 1000 if you want, then hold until either EoS, an actually strong Limited character (so far none of them are close to being needed), or ur waifu
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>>541617406
that is absolutely terrible advice.
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>>541617463
This is the part where you say why and look dumb
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>>541617082
Unless you want one of the current banner characters I would save
Surprisingly enough most anons run 1-3 limited adventurers with all the others either being one of the non-limited ones (the ones the bone picker will offer you when you enter then exit the dungeon the first time) or the regular rare adventurers

Or play the game for a while now to get the feel of it then do what >>541617406 said after to have a nice haul of gems for the possible anni banner

>>541617463
It would be an horrible advice if not for the fact that Drecom doesn't shower new players with gems
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>>541617374
Accuracy fighter up book gives like 3 ACC.
Codices can be used as a dupe substitute for Unique skill.
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>>541617271
lol discipline her
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>>541617271
You can still merge both and use the main Debra instead of the alter one
By the end of the day you only need to Discipline 1 the alter if you prefer using dancer Debra
If you don't mind using normal Debra merging already gives a stat boost on it's own so it's a good deal
Do pick one with nice points and fortitude for that tho
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damn the loot in gaurda and the cave of separation makes me realize just how starved I was for drops worth a damn in abyss2
this might not be amazing but holy fuck I can finally swap off my purple iron dagger
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>>541618130
You're actually getting amazing lucky drops lol
I'm a day1 player and never got any good ebon stuff yet
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>>541618130
1h are bricks now but that's still nice
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>>541618582
Kiriha is using it as a ninja so it's fine. he's now off-handing the purple iron dagger
>>541618293
I've been playing since steam launch, this is the first 4* weapon I've gotten above iron that wasn't either dogshit or a fixed drop (i.e. Horned Eagle)
I'm praying this is a sign of things to come
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>>541615797
>the discounted bone
he should see if the castle rank rewards let him get another codex / skill scroll before he adds another elf-pri to his collection
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Don't castle rewards carry over?
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>>541620079
Yes
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>>541617271
you have over 12, if you want to use the dancing debra appearance roll a 2nd
otherwise you have enough for D9 + an inherit
grats on D9 btw
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>dancing Debra
>Doesn't give team wide semen buff
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>>541620449
Because nobody finds her attractive.
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>>541620996
Why don't you recognize my existence
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>>541620996
>Because Nobody finds her attractive
Correct.
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Dad! Nobody is being gay again.
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I prefer edgy Debra actually
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Fairy banner soon
I can almost feel it
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>>541622657
>Fairy Gadgeteer
>height and flying issue solved by having her control a rudimentary wooden mecha
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>dude just farm ninja trial for exp
>Go to ninjer trial with a level 1 mage Alice
>Hmm there's not much to do in floor 1 other than 1 non sentry fight, i wonder what's in the second floor
>It's a trap floor that can oneshot my Alice
Wooow
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fairies are not real, John Drecom said so
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how does relicbrews penalties work? fasterthought said 4 brews max but is that 4 total drinks or can you have 4 different ones and level them up?
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>fairy was a new class
>because they are small, they can open any chest from inside
Bravo Kojima
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>>541623160
>Halito spells instakill her
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>>541623305
i mean it would instakill her either way, the fireball would be bigger than her entire body lol.
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>>541623168
>dude just farm ninja trial for exp
>Go to ninjer trial with a level 1 mage Alice
>Hmm there's not much to do in floor 1 other than 1 non sentry fight,
1st do a few scrolls to hit 20~
2nd I'm pretty sure ppl doing xp were talking about ninja cave, not the trial
should have 5-6 easy f1 fights and no traps need to be stepped on
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>>541615420
no one's getting the FAS??
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FAS fucking sucks
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Two more weeks until anniversary hold chads
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yea true but what about the next time jim precum releases a red ring
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It will be red katanya instead
TRVST
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>he didn't get the saber
bwicked
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what's our well of the mind setup looking like?
mine's grabbing the 2 slayer nodes from the thief/knight tree, and also branching up for the 4th flame on the right
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>>541624298
>either kniggas trial or thieves trial
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>>541624271
>Spending on the anniversary bait banner
I have an addiction. I... I'm... I'M HOOOOOOODLING!!
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everything is bait for you fucks
Lulu BROKE you
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Save until the 2nd anniversary banner
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How much of a benefit does marein lvl. 2 provide?
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i hope they don't fix the store exploite. 440 jims per week is actually decent
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im holding until the eos banner.
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>>541625370
Lulu is bait.
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I'm not spending a dime until Elmon dies.
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bro let her get spat on the leg again
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>>541625691
>440 jims per week is actually decent
from where?
or its all from all sources
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>440 jims are around 7 dollars
>Based on Castle ranking, the active player base is like 15k
>Drecom is literally losing 100k usd/ week on gibs
Apologize
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>>541626165
all sources, obviously
200 weekly
100 double dipping stores
20x7 dailies
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>>541626240
>losing 100k
Implying I would actually buy the gems I'm not getting for free
It's like saying piracy is a company losing money
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>>541626240
>15k active playerbase
that's actually fucking tiny, is the game being propped up solely on the shoulders of the 182 japanese businessmen?
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>>541626370
Most gacha are anon. That's normal for a gacha that isn't fgo or hoyoslop.
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so what wizardry classes are known for "specializing in handling traps"? i was hoping next class would be lord, but seems like that's no longer a possibility?
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>>541626938
Ranger probably
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its just me, or resizing windows not longer work?
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>>541626938
Bishop. They fuck the asses of them on the regular.
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>>541626938
the current idea is either Ranger or Gadgeteer from Wizardry 8, depends on what "handling traps" actually means.
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>>541627186
its gonna be archmage with spell that disarm traps
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>Bishop…Has stats in between those of a Mage and a Priest. Also has HP in between the two and can learn and use spells for both Mage and Priest. For certain scenarios, the Bishop also has the ability to identify unidentified items. The Bishop will have the restrictions of both Mage and Priest in most scenarios.
It will be Bishop. Identifying items will be replaced with identifying traps
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>>541617905
I already got a level 60 Thief/Fighter Deb with 100 fort but sadly 5 bonus points. Not really a big deal so no way going to raise another one just for 3 or so more BP.
>>541620123
I actually need 2 more for D9, but it is enough for level 7 of her skill.

I do want to use dancer version, but I don't want to spend the gems for it with the Anniversary around the corner.
Would it instead be worth it to get her skill to level 7 instead and then inherit Rinne's skill on her (and spend some exp scrolls to get it to level 3)? Might be a cool alternative.
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>>541627285
but that's already a whole stat...
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>>541627285
and it's gonna be a fairy, I bet
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>>541626938
Alchemists or Gadgeteers?
Alchemists are generally treated as a separate magic school from mages and priests, but if you can make potions you can arm them in traps.
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>>541627285
Also reminder that Samurai according to wizardry manual was supposed to be fighter with mage spells
>Samurai…High level class. Has higher HP and Strength than the Fighter and can learn Mage spells if leveled up. The Samurai can use weapons and armor that the Fighter can use in most scenarios.
>>541627495
It will cost MP, level 2 priest spell in wizardry was already working like checking traps with 1000 stat in wizardry
>Calfo – Looting
>Determines trap type. 95% chance of revealing correct type, 5% chance of revealing a random type.
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>>541627160
Those aren't traps, though.
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>>541627730
If you put them in dresses they are.
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>>541627186
>can cast while silenced
We are going to get some cancer dungeon wihh nlnstop skill/spell seals
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>>541627773
Sir, those are robes.
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>>541627285
I think if bishop is introduced is going to keep the mage/priest meme, but the problem of course is that you can already be mage/priest with fairly small downsides but with how Sam works it shows they are not against completely changing the class as the general idea stay the same. Aka Sam is still a mage/fighter hybrid in a way, I suspect they are going to get tiltowait eventually for example.
With Bishop maybe they can do something like you can cast a mage and priest spell as a combo but the effect is halved. Or you can cast a mage spell and priest spell in the same turn but the cost is doubled that sort of thing. As long as they stick to the dual mage/priest thing they can do whatever the fuck they want.
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>lord comes
>spells scale with atk power
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Also, original wiz1 spells that are still not in the game but should be
lvl2 Priest:
Calfo – Looting
>Determines trap type. 95% chance of revealing correct type, 5% chance of revealing a random type.
Manifo – Combat
>Paralyzes each monster in a group. Each monster has a (50% + Level * 10%) chance to resist. Effect is the same as sleep, but works on monsters without the SLEEP ability. Each monster has a (Level * 20%) chance to recover per round, up to a maximum chance of 50%.
level 5 priest:
>Di – Camp
Cures one party member of death and restores 1 HP, but reduces vitality by 1. Odds of success are [Deceased's Vitality] * 4%. Failure turns the deceased into ashes.
level 6 priest:
Mabadi – Combat
>Sets one monster’s HP to 1d8. Monster has no chance to resist.
Loktofeit – Combat
>There’s only a ([CharacterLevel] * 2% + 1%) chance of the spell working.
>If the spell works, then all party members are transported to the castle, and lose their equipment and gold.
(yes it's literally hook of harken but worse)
level 7 priest:
Kadorto – Camp
>Cures one party member of death or ashes and restores all HP, but reduces vitality by 1. Odds of success are [Deceased's Vitality] * 4%. Failure turns the deceased into ashes, or inflicts LOST status if already in ashes.
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Tiltowait Mage for anniversary.
Believe it.
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>>541628576
>>Di – Camp
>Cures one party member of death
This would be nice to have, especially when two allies die at once in battle
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John Drecum here,
Elmon dies and becomes the anniversary unit
Screenshot this
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For the last time Daniel, I'm not coming to DiCamp.
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>>541629542
Thanks, I'll save my gems.
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We couldn't revive Elmon when she got gangraped to death by swos, the Wheel has decided she's literally worth less than an Elf-Pri for achieving your destiny.
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>>541628614
What would even be the difference between tilowait and a normal LA-spell?
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>>541629928
Based Wheel.
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So which Wizardry 8 classdo you think would be cool for them to add?
>Ranger
>Gadgeteer
>Alchemist
>Psionic
>Valkyrie
>Monk
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>>541630098
Gadgeteer, Alchemist, and Psionic. Don't care about the others.
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>>541630098
Monk. Just so that you can get some punches and kicks if you're unarmed. Forgot to switch my gear after changing classes and Heavy Attack just swings an invisible sword if you don't equip a weapon.
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>>541630098
I want to see Savia Valkyrie
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Alec is such a fucking dumbass.
Dude i can literally pay you to fuck off, juat take the money and give me your mask.
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STR bondmates are kinda nice after the 2H buffs, adds like 20 damage or so it looks like
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I've built and class changed multiple characters without a clue or care what their boons are.
I'm savoring.
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>>541624271
but rinne is cute...
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>>541632206
Elvish tricks. Do not fall for them.
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>>541629928
They've long since established multiple timelines (alt characters and rare character inherits) and maybe other worlds if the b&b collab is canon. There's a chance it could be an alt Elmon who's at least a little more competent.
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how did she lose so much evade
fat fuck
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>>541632449
she decided she's not going to move anymore
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>>541632449
As she levels up, her smugness increases. As that increases, enemies are more determined to strike her.
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Why do Samurai get to be so much stronger than Ninjas even though both are advanced classes? Samurai are good boss killers, what niche do Ninjas even fulfill?
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>>541632672
instant kills after 200 hours of investing in them
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>>541632762
Do people really just spam the normal attack for chance at instant kills? Instant kills can't happen with their skills right?
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When will we get a sexy female dwarf character?
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>>541632927
thats all ninja is good for. auto battle 4 hits and try to instant kill. its all theyve ever been good for except you heavily invest so that their autos can do decent damage
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how does the tavern/drinks friendship increase work? like can i only increase the friendship of the one who invites me out for a drink, or can i choose the correct answer for one of them who comes along for a drink even if it's a wrong answer for the one who invited me?
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Why does this general have so much catposting
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>>541628107
mark rufallo is the precursor to bishop. a damage spell to heal
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>>541633170
gwo = greater/grinding warped one
swo = staving warped one
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>>541623925
I have 5 of them currently, I've had better luck getting them than lessers lately.
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>>541633170
we do?
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>>541633301
starving*
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>>541626370
I mean, yeah, Wizardry is a niche franchise that's always filtered large swathes of people.
The rule34 scene for this should also tell you how anemic the playerbase is compared to other gacha.
Maybe John Drecom needs to court the cunnybwos with a playable Elmon plus regular and anonymous cute and funny adventurers
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>>541630098
i think the fact that we can fight barehanded at all kind of opens up things for monk
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>>541633170
There's a lot of cat characters.
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does "has avoided a direct hit" mechanic mean that the attack would have otherwise been a critical hit on you, or was it just a normal damage attack that gets reduced?
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>>541634141
normal that got reduced by Sanctuary, Way of the Knight etc i think
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>>541633420
Perhaps with the 1st anniversary and the supposedly 2 million downloads, they will increase their marketing budget.

I don't see it becoming big overnight tho, as you said, it's too niche and the Fortitude mechanic is scary for someone who doesn't realize you have to be genuinely retarded for it to get really low.
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>>541634369
even when low. you literally cannot die in this game. oh boy, revived at 30 or 20 fort. now its 0. die again now i must wait til its 51. whoop dee doo.
now can never be ashed.
if never ashed can never die.
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>>541634369
It's not even as bad as Kancolle, at least it can only happen outside of adventuring
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>>541634080
behead all b*astf*lk
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newfag here
is there some kind of gear grinding guide for beginners thats relatively modern? do i just bare minimum +4 everything til i get roadblocked?
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>>541626240
>Based on Castle ranking
I think there should be plenty of active players who are not there yet.
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>>541634906
Upgrade weapons as much as you can
You don't really need to grind before you're done with abyss 1
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just cleared cave of separation for the first time, am i strong enough to beat the optional boss if im not strong enough to beat abyss 3 yet?
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>>541634906
in abyss 1. +4 is more than good enough to win.

low grade ore is pretty easy to get and one run of earth den after u beat abyss 1 will give you plenty and unlock its dispatch.

after that you can pretty much make most gear +10 for little investment and breeze through abyss 2. especially if its decent iron or steel from the later floors of it.

after that you get abyss 3: guarda. in tits first 3 floors you are given expulsion gear (upgraded anti undead gear) making that +5-10 will help with the boss of floor 3 but isnt really all that needed.

beat his punk ass and u get access to elmons cave which will be a nice spot for some ebonsteel.

not sure how far you need to progress to get arna's cave. potentially right before or after doll in guarda. but once you do. THAT is the ideal place to farm ebonsteel gear and you can take them as high as you want.
frankly i still use a bunch of steel and iron armor pieces since the stats you gain from ebonsteel is just more def which is kinda weak and all that matters are blessings
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>>541635064
yes, try it
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>>541635064
ask that again when your wearing a fair amount of light gear to not insta die.
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How do I farm the Sword of Promises? Do I just have to start from the beginning of the quest and main entrance each time, or is there a way to start from the 2nd floor Harken?
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>>541635490
you wheel to reset quest. run through it all again. just do the bad end to avoid vampire fight. unless u particularly like fighting him, twice
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>>541635575
Ok thank you. So you have to start from the entrance no matter what if you intend on farming the sword? Because I saw some guide saying you can start from the Harken or something.
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my negwo
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>>541635746
yes if you want to farm the sword for arnas. chest for elmons. or horny sword in fordraig. you gotta wheel and reset each one respectively
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>Beastfolks are real and have a dark history of discrimination/slavery
>Bunny suit or cat ears is basically blackface
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Is it still a good idea to pump up your Masketta man to make him your dedicated chest opener even though the new class is going to be a trap specialist? It won't be a waste since he'll eventually be able to class change to whatever it is right?
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Reminder that masketta will learn chest specialist class 6 copypasted caves later
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just play the game how you want.
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>>541636165
Trap specialist will mean they use traps in combat, not disarming traps.
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>>541636165
>inb4 trap specialist implies literal trapping.
trap class and not a chest opener
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remember when people were saying Gerulf was the worst legendary adventurer in the game at launch? this is him now
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>>541636590
>posted Benjamin instead
You might think that their beard look the same, but it's not true, racist
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>>541636390
That's what I thought at first too, but then I thought "what if everything was as awful as possible?" and I think specialist in disarming traps and jobbing in combat is a real possibility.
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>>541637121
so thief.
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>Reclassed to Duelist
>GWO tries to attack me
>You've_Just_Activated_My_Trap_Card.wav
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>>541630986
he's a dumbass runaway noble or rich kid
he wants to die more than money
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Here's your anni character.
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>>541638430
I look like this
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>RPG gacha
>No BiS, no NEEDslop, no sig weapons, no weekly/monthly tower, no guild raid, no pvp arena, no roguelike
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Why did the 2hand barbarians steal our jerbs.
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umm there is tower and im pretty sure it was supposed to be monthly but they're kinda incompetent
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>>541639239
imagine the smell of their fundoshi
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>>541639289
>monthly old castle
I can't handle that much sweat
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>>541637815
We should get a yugioh crossover
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>>541639387
I can.
I just enter. Play it. Beat it. Take my score and move on. Dont need to sweat at all go merely win
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>>541639289
It'll be out of beta in 2027, trust the plan.
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>>541639516
surprisingly that's not the longest beta game mode I've ever seen in a gacha. Arknights had one that's in beta for 5 years, which means it just left beta
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>>541639289
2000+ gems per month? Drecom is gonna bankrupt!
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>>541639387
I think they ruined by instantly teleporting you when you die.
The first one, I had to keep reviving myself to beat the final boss in the boss rush, had almost no resources left, but beating it felt so gratifying.
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>>541639491
I haven't fucked with Yugioh since I watched the original anime (and a bit of GX) as a kid. I'd pull for a Silent Magician mage though
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>>541639841
They let you flame before?
makes no damn sense to cut out a core aspect of the game
let me use my fucking flames I don't need to drop the entire run because my samkot got spat on twice in a row by the slimes and I can't rez because she's low from being nuked by succubi the fight before. I worked for that 4th flame
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>>541640000
no, i bet he was abusing glitch that let you restart combat
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>>541640101
>>541640000
the first old castle used to let you flame gwo...
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>>541640148
it didn't
there was a glitch that allow you restart fights, never used it but people were talking
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>glitch that allow you restart fights
Glitch in question:
>close the game
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Quick reminder to buy the Halito book from the Castle rewards over the overpriced 12.5k Scroll. It's mandatory for your mages to have a level 3 spell and currently Halito and Erlik are the msot difficult to upgrade.
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>>541641142
Uh you can grab those from Mage Trials though.
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>>541640541
That isn't a glitch. The only glitch was fleeing the battle to phase through mobs to lower the foray.
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>>541641142
>mandatory
but my mages exist to just debuff stuff for my fighters
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>>541641750
debuffs the way they work are just too efficient and effective compared to casting damaging spells unless it's to clear trash mobs
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>>541641813
if they upped the size of some packs mages would make comeback
like if you face 20-30 less durable enemies but still hard hitting enemies
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>>541641813
retard
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>>541641913
I always find it funny when I come across that 9-pack of robbers in the 1st abyss
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what are the best 4 stats for sword of promises? im doing some farming but don't really know what im supposed to be looking for
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>>541641142
you're not my mom, swo.
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>>541642112
now imagine fighting 30 of them in like 5 rows
would be fun
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Everyone not in top 500 in Castle Ruins is being kicked from the guild.
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>>541642147
the sword is ass now, atk, atk%, sur, evade, accuracy in lesser extent
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>>541642147
atk
atk%
sur
eva
acc is also acceptable if it means you can save the alter for the last stat
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Is the full alteration stone worth in the Old Castle exchange?
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nyontent!!
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>>541642568
you should always keep 1 in case you need it
imo it's worth more than the 25 xp codex that goes for 12k
speaking of which, does anyone remember if old castle coins carry over between seasons? I think it's yes?
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>>541642556
have more?
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>>541642708
yes
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>>541643092
>>541643206
what i have
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What kind of power level should I be expecting to clear old castle ruins at? I had to dip out after reaching 19 because I ran out of sp and mp (I had to autoattack the plant to death).
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>>541643341
26k
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>>541643341
I'm at 1.3k in rank with a 13.4k party. I beat guarda good end but it was still from cheesing the gwo with corruption wheeling. He did die in like 3-4 turns after the tentacles got cut though
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are there maps for the castle ruin? been busy as fuck and i just need to crank out a clear
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>>541643785
gamerch for full map
fasterthought for quickest route
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>>541643869
wtf are those her actual shoes
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>>541644106
hot isn't it
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Are samurai overtuned? At level 60 my Shiou has 65 more SP, 40 more MP, and only like 50 less HP than my level 60 fighter/knight W.Lana. And she just gets to spam 1 turn full power strikes in boss fights. Not to mention my Shiou is discipline 0 whereas my W.Lana is at discipline 5 already.
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>>541644106
dean was so lucky bet he got stepped on by those all the time
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>>541644249
Nah that shit is not for me.
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holy warped one
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>>541644312
no
kots and samurai die easily and takes a fuckton of time to gear.
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>>541643341
I mean. You can guard and defend opening kill the mimic, plant, and scorp, but you do rack up a decently long foray.
Did it easy and painless full clear.
They got like 25k+ health and opening is % dmg so after like 5 openings they die
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fahg
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>>541644312
B*astf*lks have high sp.

Have you looked at debras or savias sp.
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>>541644312
Less access to equipments, katanyas are hard to farm, the good stance is squishy. But the damage was the real deal.
They were de facto THE end game DPS class, until the recent 2H buff made fighters about as strong. So now they aren't that powerful.
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>>541644576
I skillbound the mimics and they were forced to either do their tiny damage fear wave or attack and get blocked
I wonder if that works on others. Don't think it's necessary for scorps because beast slayer exist and plants have their spit moves
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>>541641142
can't even remember the last time i had a mage use halito
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>>541644757
>Ghosts can just stick their feet in my mouth or flash me without my knowledge or consent
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>>541644757
stop calling me cherry...
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>>541644757
>"get a load of this guy" looking ass bibiana
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>>541644757
more like vivislop
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>>541645060
i mean, how this guy gonna drink it?
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>>541644768
yeah u see more auto attacks from the rest. besides when the front row is defending doesnt hurt to cast montino or kantios. (confuse will 100% make them auto attack)
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>>541644757
imagine what would happen in that tavern if Lulunarde decided to lay waste upon everyone below her with her pungent ghost anus
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First semi-decent drops from Arna's Cave.
I'm still trying to figure out the game mechanics, are these worth investing money/alteration stones in?
Which blessings do I want and which do I overwrite?
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>>541646125
they're both ass unfortunately
but if you have to, get rid of the res and def
for blues you want both stats to be desireable
the random stat lines is why I'd rather a 2 star purple
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>>541646204
Just upgrade them and SAVOUR THE RISK nigga. The last two will be atk and atk%
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>>541646551
>tricking a newswo out of 15 t2 and t3 ores and 300k gold
be gone lulu
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Things to note for blacksmithing.
1) You can only alter 1 slot after which you can't change which slot to alter
2) Every +5 reveals or (upgrades if already revealed) the substat slots in order
3) More *s means higher substat numbers
4) Generally, flat stat > % stat
5) Consult the attached pic for what substats can be rolled on what items
6) You can alter a slot to be anything, even a substat that the equipment already has

In light of all these, the best item to enhance (for a f2p) is a purple 4* with 3 good substats, e.g. a sword with ATK/ATK%/SUR. That way, if the 4th substat is something ass like RES, you can still salvage it so in the previous case, a +20 sword with ATK/ATK%/SUR/RES can be altered into a +20 sword with ATK/ATK%/SUR/ATK.
As for what stats are good, it depends on the character.
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>>541646204
Too bad, I hoped the helmet at least could be used as a dedicated anti-debuffs piece.
>>541646551
I'll gladly savour the risk once I'm less poor.
>>541646719
Thanks for the detailed writeup, anon. I didn't know you could put in a blessing you already had.
>As for what stats are good, it depends on the character.
That's my problem, any guide I can read to learn this stuff?
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>>541646719
>purple 4* with 3 good substats
those aren't real
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>>541647616
They do
They will just lowroll and become somewhat mediocre bricks
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>>541648194
>altered the third stat
Doesn't count.
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>>541648194
you posted img of a weapon with 2 good substats
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>>541648269
It was acc%
Not amazing, and i wasted the refinement bonus rolling the 4th line
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Are 2h swords bad?
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>>541648375
Okay cope option, theyre the worst 2h right now. Dont be afraid to use one if yoy get a good roll drop
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mace buff soon
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>>541648194
there's only one good substat on that weapon though
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>>541648375
The difference between 2h axe, 2h mace and 2h sword is minimal right now
Spear is better than 2h sword, but 2h sword is viable
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Le bricken cave worth farming in current year?
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>>541648779
The chest piece is still good and easy to farm
Theres the beast hunter bow there too. Its just annoying to farm because most optimal farming route requires you to wheel for the 3 gorgon fight, and autoing there is a high chance to die to taurniggers
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>>541648375
They are fine, better than hammers but worse than axes.
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>>541648905
Hammers can hit evasionniggers like fairies, succs and vamps, and the stun is nice when it happens. 2h swords were supposed to be the balanced option but axes are just better
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>>541647616
they are
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>>541649080
lana always looks so dumb
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Does FAS refresh the alter count of an item i.e. can I alter>FAS>Alter another slot?
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>>541649239
hnyesssss *licks balls*
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>>541643283
can you post adam
>ART Big BOOBS
hah
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>>541648979
The -18 stats fucking suck though.
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>>541649467
It's barely noticeable
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anyone have more of this?
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>>541638430
>modern weapons
>throwing and sling
Yay new weapons to clog up the junk pool
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>>541649592
>cooler Adam is just Adam with less layers and a ponytail
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Umm, umm.... what about 1h axes?
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>>541644757
the real main character of this story
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>>541646125
Looks great
You need acc on your fighters so just change that res or def to atk before enhancing them
Don't worry about optimal gear right now since even if you get a purple gear with 3 nice blessings there's still rng in enhancing and you might get low rolls in all of them
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>>541649708
Pretty sure those are just fanart
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>>541649306
Can I have a second non nyagger opinion please
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NYOUNTERATTACK WITNYESS NYE POWER OF TWHE BEASTFWOLK
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Gwos... new masketto man here, what do?
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>>541644757
what they're talking about
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>>541650817
Pulled the wrong banner
Reroll
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>>541650817
Recruit both and check their fortitude and stats the post here
Use the bonus points on Str or Spd - Up to you which you prefer
Str is better for bows and Spd is better overall
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>>541626240
That's bullshit because I beat the castle once and was over 15k before refining my runs. Active player count must be closer to 30k.
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>>541644757
Is that a fucking pizza? Where did Gandolfo get a pizza?
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>>541651171
>Drecom is losing 200k per month
Gwos...
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>>541651171
I guidefagged and died on the 19th floor and still landed at 7k
What did you do
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>>541650817
explode.

But seriously:

Look at the base stats and fortitude of each debra, they may be slightly different. Take the best one as your base (make sure you LOCK your base), then merge with the other style and discipline golden debra once so she can take advantage of Overall Discipline when you get more normal debras.
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>>541651384
I didn't guidefag and ended up with a 2k+ clear time on several floors
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>>541650817
Find the one with the best boon, either luck(for the long game) or spd and str and the highest bonus point count. They will have +1 to booned stat and every 10 levels they get more in that stat
Check the fortitude too. 90 is fine but 80 is brick, but you want 100 if shes your chest opener. Once you find your keeper, use that one to eat the other ones. Discipline and merge, do not inherit
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>>541650835
>Flut: God damn it Marianne! For the last time, tax evasion is a felony!
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>>541651273
i wheeled to the future to get some wendys and asked if he wanted anything
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>>541634762
The modern gacha player would be lose their mind at Kancolle with things like routing.
But the fact of the matter is the castle isn’t a great way to determine player base since the majority of gacha players are basically 20 minute log in daily spammers who need to have their arms twisted to actually engage with any content beyond that on a regular basis. They still spend, they still roll, but they basically don’t actually play.
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>They still spend, they still roll, but they basically don’t actually play.
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>>541652337
they do actual content instead of doing pointless kill 300 niggers and farming arna's cave for 5000h for 1 good drop
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>>541652337
it's true. they complain if a game has gameplay. they just want to auto and pull.
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>>541635018
Game's been out for nearly a year and you only need to beat the first abyss to unlock the castle
It's a pretty lengthy "tutorial" for a mobile game, but still wouldn't count people who haven't beaten it active unless they started a few weeks ago at most
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>>541642556
Damn, I love Milana's thief outfit but I really like her as my main mage.
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>>541652959
she looks better as a mage though.
olive wears the same outfit if you change her to a thief
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>>541652171
I think a lot of them probably tapped out at floor 18-19 since those last floors still require effort.
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auto bad, I want to grind junk manually forever
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Improved auto with triple drop rates BUT you need to allow Drecom to mine bitcoin on your device
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>>541653050
nah, elven female mages look horrible, no hats and fighters have better outfits
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>>541653779
isn't it already doing that
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Is Livana this week? I want to roll
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>>541654549
Yes
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>>541653050
I guess I would have liked for her to have some more accessories like her bandana in mage mode rather than just being purple flut
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>>541650482
>>541649239
Yes. *scratches balls*
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>Hit a +25 ATK +Surety +Acc on a FAS
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>>541655360
isn't acc shit
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everyone who thinks acc is shit is shit at the game
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>>541655398
My last line is DIV. Acc is at least workable
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>>541655623
just don't miss
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>>541655623
You always have 5% chance to hit
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Sure bro let me just spend 20 turns hitting this succubus surely nothing will go wrong
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>>541655989
If your accuracy is low enough and your evasion high enough, you can’t even hit yourself.
What’s the problem?
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ive stopped playing around january or feb game the same old roll for who you like?
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>>541656451
endgame mobs will hit your through your evasion
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>>541656532
yea, stay sovlfvl. There's been some powercreep but 2h fighters are top tier so it doesn't matter
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>>541652337
>playing is killing 300 of the same type of enemy over and over again and opening chests in an area over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
FACTS
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>>541656705
oh nice and is there a dancer class now or did i get baited into thinking this broad was one
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and can i use jp audio with EN ui yet
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>>541657036
yes,maybe
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>>541656931
that kot is nyot a dancer.
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>>541656931
u need another copy sadly swo
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>>541656705
>there's been some powercreep
Such as?
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>>541657036
Please return to not playing, we are already at capacity with retards who can't read or look through menus.
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>>541657239
Buttholerionach
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>>541656589
are evasion tanks just gutted then? i recall wanting this gal before i stopped playing
>>541657275
hmm nyo I will be an additional retard but I never wiped when going through first abyss so i think im fine never did the two ents thing either
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>are tanks gutted
that has to be bait
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fucking. the speed guiding light is supposed to be the easy one but there's not a single guide more specific with how I get the follow up quest to get the dam light itself.
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>>541657229
Do i actually?
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>>541658354
NTA. technically yes but its not worth spoiling your anni pulls imo.
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>>541657412
Only against certain superbosses. Evasion has a role, it's just not the the invincibility button it was at the beginning.
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>>541658354
if you want to use her dancer alt, yes
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>>541657239
Tzalikman was meta, then he got crept by samkot, who are you tied to 2h fighters
sheli is busted for farming or long crawls, and also cleaning up groups because she recovers mp
Ninja also technically powercrept >>>>>>thief but thieves were bricked in the first place. However since 2h weapons are busted now bow thieves are getting some play if the unit's other class is good
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>>541657412
Savis specifically got a bit more interesting because alice skill now works on her so you can have potentially 3 turn of counterattack and 2h buff means you hit a lot harder. You can also do something like use skill on turn 1, defend on turn 2 and proc opening with the counterattack. Is still niche but when it works it works pretty good.
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>>541658354
the new dupe system is basically
>you can get dual discipline bonuses from both base and alt
>but ONLY if you already unlocked discipline on the version you're using
so you need 1 dupe on the alt to enable discipline there, so that she gets discipline bonuses from the base when you roll her off standard
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>>541658624
>who are you
fuck
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>>541658624
That's not to say the ninja CHARACTERS are power crept, because gale/empty husk, illusory mist, voice theft, and dissipation are still top tier abilities.

But daggers suck, kunai suck even more, ninja katana sucks the most, armor pierce sucks, wild throw sucks, concealment/covert strike suck, art of assassination sucks, so really you just take the ninja skills and run to their other class and leave human-nin on the bench.
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>>541564818
When is she going to join my party bros?
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>>541659372
>human-nin is useless
That's why I named her Kanami!
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>>541659372
Human nin is great for dispatching to den of earth.
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new accounts have 2 selectors right?
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If anni u it isn't incredibly broken I think I'm gonna level up my tzalik skill to lvl 2. He's already disc2 and no1 else really has a skill worth the codexes.
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【Personal Memo】Playing with Icons
Launch the Shortcuts app, create new
Tap "Open App"
Tap the "App" section (in blue)
Select WizDaphne
Tap "Add to Home Screen"
Choose a photo of your favorite
Tap "Add"
Tap "Done" in the Shortcuts app
A cool icon is created
Happy
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Lana looks so derpy all the time I can't even
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>>541660735
They really hit it out of the park with her design. The english voice lines really sell me on a lot of the characters like lana and marianne. Even Daniel has great spell lines.
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>>541660735
>regular fighter Lana looks like a boy
>Wana has a silly slut outfit but doesn’t look like shit as a fighter
I hate it.
When’s the outfit selection Drecom???????
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Been using Backline Lana in my auto team to great success. Can now run Kiriha and Gerulf frontlining.
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>>541642556
Cute camisole
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More like cumisole am I right?
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New player here.
So, how the hell are more Mind Pearls acquired?
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>>541657239
>some powercreep
That anon is braindead. Several new legendary characters have busted skill that shits out ten thousands of damage, compare that to the regular launch skills that might hit a thousand if you're geared enough. However now thanks to the 2H buff the fighter launch skills can hit very hard as well and you can still complete everything aside from the super bosses with launch units using lv.1 skills.
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https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/adventurer-customization/well-of-the-mind/
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>>541665009
Who can shit out ten thousands of damage? At a level of investment where heavy attacks can probably do half that while being easier to sustain?
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>>541664934
use guiding lights.
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>>541664934
Acquire Guiding Lights by playing the story.
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>>541665573
Have you seen Tanaka-san's latest videos on twitter? He is so strong and dreamy...
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>>541665009
Shiou, the only one who can shit out ten thousands of damage if you're not a whale, needs like 3 and a half turns of setting up her nuke and that's if shit goes exactly as planned.
Most of the time she's spamming bamboo splitter, which is almost comparable to a 2h fighter in terms of damage, but samurais are also more prone to missing than fighters, and dies easily
Oh, and you are also farming her gear
Not to mention fighter skills are much more easily leveled
Not to say samurais are bricks, the kot is my strongest unit outside of mask, but she can very much be replaced by a different 2h fighter
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how much setup does octonarius take? Can I wheel my first path to get it done or am I better off doing it on a 2nd playthrough? Im going to do the port town lights today.
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Shiou 2H katana buffs will buff her skill too
TRVST THE PLAN
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is trollkin shiou still a thing or did they patch that out already
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>>541666164
You can wheel and do it on your first quest line, yeah.
It’s a multi-stage fight and you have to deal with the last Arena fight, and Melgina first so it depends on how stretched your resources were from doing the normal end. It’s like an additional 5-6 worth of enemy HP to deal with.
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>>541666129
Yeah, that's what I thought
5k with Shiou (decent but not whale tier equipment, not a ton of buffs/debuffs) is the highest damage I've seen in a single action and it requires a ton of setup and is useable once per battle
Heavy Attack 3 by a 2h Fighter does like 1,1-1,3k and double that on a crit
I use the kot because its fun and I like the kot, but fighters are more effective once again
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What should I spend my points on, gwos?
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>>541666129
Nothing besides super bosses will oneshot a Samurai in Bamboo Splitter stance that won’t oneshot a Fighter anyway so the survivability argument is a complete meme unless you’re a 750+ HP
whale who can face tank some of the “guaranteed” one shots through raw HP.
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>>541666993
>Nothing besides super bosses
Excellent goalpost moving gwo
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>>541666936
Personally I would go for MAREIN/DILTO, everyone else is going to say legendary bone, and then DO NOT USE IT until anniversary because we might get another double legendary event.
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>>541666582
I think kot is more flexible offensively and that's nice. Potential Jarmil gives her Maferu lets her clear mobs a little, regular Feru other element skills to hit backlines, and she can infuse elements to hit weaknesses . She also seems to have a fuck ton sps to spam stuff and okayish mp. Great in boss fights because she gains power every turn, if she doesn't get focused down, and porto is extra valuable on her
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>>541667404
Yeah that's what I've been saying, everyone's so focused on their crazy single target damage, they forget that samurai has a TON OF MP they can use if you just give them spells.
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>>541667404
spells do completely nothingburger damage compared to attacks
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>>541668021
sure? but if I want to cleave 3 fairies instead of using bamboo splitter on each one of them after sheli failed to clean house with a lazelos, I can.
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>>541666993
>only oneshots matter
if a fighter can take 3 hits and sams can take 2 because their hp and def are naturally lower and they sit in a stance that increases damage taken, then it's a difference between forcing you to heal or do other important stuff
>someone is charmed, or hit with other funky statuses/debuffs and sam also got hit and is low, do you heal or cleanse?
>debuffs and buffs are expiring, heal or reapply?
>or just not having to heal and straight up do an offensive action
>samkot needs to top up immediately after every hit or she risks dying, while fighters can sit on it to see if other frontlines are damaged to more efficiently do a madios to save mp and conserve action economy
there's a lot of things to consider outside of one shotting super bosses.
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>>541667359
qrd on double legendary event? are those just for the standard pool of legendary adventurers? and you get 2x and das it? bought an account since i was kinda bricked and sitting on 15k that ill wait for anni banner to come up though i do know general flow of the game
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>>541668564
Only applies to normal bones, but if you pulled a legendary with a normal bone you got a free second legendary. Not sure if it applied to legendary bones but I don't see why it wouldn't.
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>>541668564
a little while ago we got an event where you get 1 extra legendary standard every time you hit in normal bones
I don't think it applies to the guaranteed legendary bone, because the legendary guaranteed bone is what they give you when you hit in the normal bones...
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account was with wana alice Iarumas shiou geruff and spent like 50 rolls for sheli and got her + a yek a second alice and an aldric only only issue was that mc is evil and hes stuck as a fighter for the early parts of the game...
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>>541669417
I don't see how's that a problem
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>>541669417
backline evil fighter mc works fine with bow/spear
and you can change alignments very slowly now from ambush events
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>>541669582
wana buff didnt matter too much? i just recall around the first month if youre not neutral youre bricked
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>>541669747
oh huh thats pretty nice to know
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>>541666993
I think you're vastly overestimating the level of damage cresting wave stance samurai can take past the point of starting A3
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>>541670040
The entire game is basically balanced around either taking negligible damage which is easily evadable or getting two shot.
Oh no instead of 400 damage they take 500 damage.
Still a 2 shot.
Still getting healed in 1 (one) single Dios or Madios.
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>>541669752
It's like 10% increase or something
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>>541669752
>if youre not neutral youre bricked
I think people overestimate how alignment's affects your party's strength.
Yeah it's nice having a synergy or having that small % damage boost in the endgame.
But I've seen plenty of people just play a mix of evil, neutral and good adventurers.
Especially since a lot of meta ones contradict each other.
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>>541670838
I played good for the longest of time
then I murdered dwa-kni and then the game put me in neutral. I'm actively picking good options to go back to good.
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>>541669752
The action speed is like +6. It's a pretty good amount. But you get some of it if you just have light armor with no sword, so it's not really worth giving her a 1H sword just for that.
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>>541671026
I've been playing the game mostly blind and I also ended up being a good masketto.
Kinda sucks a lot female adventurers I like are evil, but that doesn't stop me from adding them to the party.
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>>541648375
My Lana uses one because swords fit her and it's a zweihander so it's cool
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>>541670838
>Especially since a lot of meta ones contradict each other
They kinda don't anymore with the 2H fix, with backline spears and bows being viable you can much more easily synergize with Lana in the front row and Alice in the back. Ninjers get fucked because kunai suck, though
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>>541671471
t-they are still fine for critical memes...
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>>541652171
This game could take a page out of Kancolle, I was thinking that something that could make castle better and would also solve the whole "why roll if I have a D9 general adventurer" thing would be tag locking. It would be lame if the difficulty stays the way it is though, where there are really easy floors in the beginning, but it could work with some changes.
I think difficulty selector like earlier events had combined with a lock every 5 floors or so would make it more fun.
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>>541626240
>>541652858
I've played since the game launched, and I don't do castle, I only did the first iteration. It just isn't interesting to me.
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Are conversation results during tavern talks and campfires random?
I get that different adventurers like different drinks, but when it comes to talking it feels fucking impossible to please them.
>We should go to safer areas
>"Noo, we're too strong for that shit!"
>We should be more careful
>"We're already vigilant enough!!"
>We were just unlucky
>"Huh, then how the fuck do we proceed if everything is about luck?!"
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>>541671948
nah each one has a correct response
but if they're in a drinking group, sometimes you can't please everyone
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>>541671948
>"Huh, then how the fuck do we proceed if everything is about luck?!"
Actually a great question
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>>541672158
>Actually a great question
pray to Agora
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>>541671924
I don't find it interesting either, but the completion rewards are too good to pass up in a game this stingy
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>>541671664
Point bonuses for certain compositions could be neat too.
Something like -X foray speed for each Good/Evil/Neutral or Human/Elf/Dwarf/Beastfolk in your party etc.
But think Drecom’s top priority is actually getting it working somewhat properly after the technical disaster of the last test. They can also rotate what elements the majority of enemies are and sell characters that way by giving them an elemental giga nuke etc.
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>>541672775
I just attack it like a regular dungeon, not looking up maps or anything just for the completion rewards.
I like the idea thematically, but it’s hard to make the rankings both fair and not reward looking up maps.
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>>541673725
Easy
>boss is guaranteed to be generated within 20/25/30 steps from floor teleoporter(for f2/f3/f4)
>every map is random seed generated, no same maps
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>>541673725
Yeah I hate the focus on muh speed in a fucking dungeon crawler that should be about exploration
I sent in a bunch of feedback after the first season how they could incentivize actually exploring each floor instead of making it about finding the quickest way to the stairs
Guess they need at least one mode for whales to flex their shit in so thats what they went for
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>>541673927
Ah, and the seed is account seed, so your map obviously persists if you reset your run so you can optimize it for 2nd run
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>>541674083
>so your map obviously persists if you reset your run so you can optimize it for 2nd run
That just favors no life autists though
I don't have time for that
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>>541674184
retard
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>>541674357
not an argument
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>>541673958
Could mix it up by having a couple of alternate modes.
One incentivizes speed like we have now, one that’s more about uncovering and clearing as many floors and opening as many chests etc like a survival mode.
But Drecom’s technical competency means it’d probably be a huge disaster.
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>>541674446
The argument is that it's necessary step to prevent "Huh, then how the fuck do we proceed if everything is about luck?!" issue that someone is lucky to find portal instantly unlike the rest
That gives you both exploration, and then even path optimization, before eventual execution of perfect run
If you don't care to optimize, well you can just don't bother to rerun it, nothing stops you from that
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>>541673927
Too much work for Drecom, they can't even fucking make new rooms for each beta, they just take the same 3 rooms and scramble them up.
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>>541671948
just bee yourself
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>>541671262
It's your duty to fix them, anon.
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>>541675920
CALL ME CHERRY ONE MORE TIME BITCH
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Around what level do i do the legendary adventurer requests? Cause i just tried Yeka's and it was pure hell.
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>>541676157
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why can't I just reverse my cock and balls back
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>>541676354
I feel like they’re balanced around level 40-50?
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>>541676460
>We'll let you live again and you can never truly die
>and you'll be surrounded by subservient women of all flavors
>BUT
>no cock and balls until you kill all the GWOs
Motivation.
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What's "exploration" anyway. If you want to reward exploration you need to balance risk/ reward
>One floor but with multiple randomized objectives
>More objectives completed mean more score, but if you die the run reset
>Ghost of Trebor chase you so you can't just dilly dally.
>You can exit dungeon anytime, keeping your current score.
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>>541676484
Only Gerulf, Adam and Debra
Yeka was much later so it's balanced for post-Guarda lvl60
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>>541676698
ah... I see the vision
the 11th and final ultimate spell, cock and balls restoration (true)
You will have to use it against the master of the abyss...
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>>541669417
>mc is evil
you can change alignments now
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>>541676867
Lana’s was trivial at 60, basically soloed one of the mini dungeons with literally just her and the rest of my party paralyzed.
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>>541676460
as established in guarda you can't turn a ghul back alive
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>>541678119
am I never gonna be able to fuck again...
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>>541678119
I cast.... GREATER PENIS CREATION
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>>541671262
>Kinda sucks a lot female adventurers I like are evil
But evil doesn't really means evil in this game right? Doesn't evil in this game means just like they're selfish, don't trust people and or willing to do anything to save themselves? The only character that I know of that is actually evil is Alice.
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>>541681314
the only actually evil characters are Alice(avatar of the god of evil), Raffaello(mentally ill wifebeater) and kinda Galbadus(slave turned slaver and tyrant)
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>>541681314
Savia is evil because she ONLY cares about her friends, and if you aren't in her circle she won't do shit for you. She died defending her "very good friend" princess from foreign soldiers.

Raffaello is evil because he beat his wife to death, raised her, beat her to death again until she ashed, then started murdering people to try and full metal alchemist his wife back to life so he could do it again.

There's a spectrum.
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>>541681314
some are evil cunts like Alice
some have trust issues
other are free loving selfish spirits
its nip (((morality))), you obey the law, don't be selfish, like in Tactics Ogre when massacring your ethnic kin is Law route because you did it on orders of your ruler, when refusing it is selfish act and Chaos route
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>>541682361
You really shouldn't be surprised that following orders is lawful and disobeying them is chaos. That's kind of how it works.

The quiz at the start of the game tells you basically how it goes. If you help an old woman cross the street because you want to, you're good. If you do it because you're already there and it doesn't cost you anything, you're neutral. If you do it for a reward, you're evil. The same action, different motivations. There is no option not to help her.
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>>541681314
The sleepy elf is evil, she canonically lied and got people who trusted her killed :(
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im going around talking to everyone in port town as I run through, but that's all I need right? I've already gotten all the mermaid knowledge from my first run so I don't need to get it twice right?
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What the fuck does nuDebra even do? Does she shit out DPS? Does she dodge everything? I don't understand why I would roll for her.
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>>541683281
The plan was to give you a boner. And you got one.
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>>541682920
law/chaos spectrum is different from good/evil
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>>541683281
Welcome to every THF sans drigga, hopefully they get some good skills with Abyss 4
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>>541683281
Apparently her new ability is decent with a bow, but all her stupid passives want her in the front with a sword. That's why I passed.
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>>541683281
gives you a boner
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>>541682335
wtf was his problem
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>>541683851
Religion
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I need them to drop a new farming event, one with more codexes
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>>541683281
2H bow and lv3 MH is pretty good damage
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>>541681779
>>541682335
>me reading Rafaellos backstory first page: 'Fell in love and married a woman'
>Aw, that's cu-
>'beats her to death and resurrects her to beat her again'
Lana was right- there is only one final solution and we should take it
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I've always liked giving my lana shields
it's just in character for her to take punishment
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>>541684808
It's so sad me and rafaello can't be undead bone brothers because of this.
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Is Lana Stun Basher a thing?
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>>541569328
Drecom hasn't really pushed elementally-aligned dungeons or elementally-aligned end-game content - that would do a lot to encourage having multiple teams. Back during the Blade & Bastard collab bringing a water team made a big difference towards beating the dragon, especially if your gear wasn't very farmed.

Honestly though I wouldn't really want them to change the system too much. Part of what makes the game so good is precisely that you can use whoever you want and you don't feel like you're on the hamster wheel of always rolling for banners like other gacahs. It's still getting subsidized hugely by JP whales anyway after all.
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>>541683851
he was chud who got top tier waifu and killed her because of jealousy
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>>541685416
i could level all chars to 60 in instant if o have tags for them
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>>541685296
It does less damage than her warrior skills so I would say no
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>>541685296
stun bash is pretty effective against enemies who are weak to stun
but like, it doesn't do a lot of damage and tend to not work too, even if you use a mace
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>>541686080
>>541685967
because it scale with def
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>>541686241
only for the stun chance, no? Fort strike is the one that scales damage to def
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>>541686439
dmg too
fort strike dmg scale with def and mdef
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Lana gets all my def equip
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>>541686842
Lana gets max defense by being perma-benched.
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so i should max def and stunbash and do thousands of dmg?
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just woke up, did they reveal the anniversary contents?
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>>541687603
new adventurer and trap-handling class(likely Ranger from Wizardry 8)
that's it, enjoy.
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>>541687603
Go back to sleep for another week.
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>>541687603
cyontent
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>completed absolutely everything for Abyss 1
well shit, i guess i'll have to actually finish it now.
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>beat 3rd abyss for a while
>sentries kicked my ass back then and avoid them whenever I have to go back to 10th floor harken
>now that 4th abyss is coming, decide to fight them again to see how much I've improved by
>cyclops are ez af now
>double vampires are still horrible but I can actually beat them now instead of dying without a chance to fight back
I don't know what gimmicks 4th abyss have but I think I'm ready for it instead of struggling miserably like I did with the start of 3rd abyss
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I forgot how much this level fucking sucked.
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>>541689890
bring earth team with some earth weapons and armor and its breeze
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>>541690058
i'm doing my guiding light runs with a lvl 60 team it's not an issue. More like im not sure how i did this with a lvl 40 team lol.
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>>541690159
Probably lured the enemies out of the water and used the fountain after clearing ahead like the rest of us.
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>>541683281
makes my pp the big PP
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>>541617082
All classes get the same base skillset and stat growths based on their class. Named general characters get an extra unique skill (usually a passive). Legendary adventurers get two (sometimes three) extra unique skills.

A duplicate of a character can be expended to teach another character a skill (what skill they teach depends on the character), or be expended to boost the strength of the same character (usually their base stats).

The real grind is for gear - adventurers can bring some unique capabilities or synergies but it's possible to clear everything with even nameless adventurers if you're willing to gear them up.

Getting characters comes from acquiring bones. The regular kind that can be found in the dungeon pull from the starter pool of characters. To roll on a banner you need to buy the specific bones for the banner from the Jeweler in town; they come in the "green" variety (can be bought with freebie green gems that are earned in game) or the "purple" variety (bought for purple gems which generally are only purchased for real money).

The chances of rolling a legendary adventurer are identical for each - 2% for the banner character (and ~3% to get a "regular" legendary from the general pool), but if you roll with a "purple" bone you'll get a free piece of legendary gear if you get an adventurer. Since upgrading gear to the maximum requires extra copies of the gear, don't expect to be able to max out legendary gear unless you're willing to mega-whale.
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The leveling section on the wiki says you can keep refighting the 3 ninjas at the beginning of the ninja trial but for me it was only 3 on the first fight and its been 2 ninjas since, is the wiki just wrong?
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Looking for a rare jew?
I see you are a man, very good!
I am always ready to surf.
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>>541690918
They nerfed it a while back. It's never been worth it anyway since they can ambush you.
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>>541691726
Soul.
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>>541691934
loool
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>>541691934
Truly a man of his word.
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>>541564818
Elmon looks like THAT!?
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>>541691726
>>541691934
kek
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>>541693538
post your teams
metagwo not welcome
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>>541694679
>not Mage Milana
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>>541695219
she is my evil thief of choice, also I think she look worse in mage uniform
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>>541694679
>Milana
too meta, put in bakesh or something.
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>>541695493
I have Olive as neutral thief
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>>541687603
legendary selector
new class
confirmed abyss 4 at the end of the year
????
i dunno what else
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>>541691934
>guild points turn into a surf board
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>>541691925
What is the alternative then? Cave of flowers seems good, my units are in the 40+ range and dispatches are already occupied
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elves and a cat
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>>541694679
Religious Gandolfo is kinda a vibe
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>>541696409
he is bro tier character, I like him a lot(no homo)
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holy shit Gerulf actually cannot aim for shit.
this man has actually missed while using Eruption multiple times.
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>>541697210
Maces don't miss wtf.
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>>541696409
yep
>>541697210
yeah, eruption strike dont have bonus acc of heavy strike so its ass
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>>541697210
you rack DISCIPRINE
no seriously though he needs Disc more than anyone, then he suddenly becomes good
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My lana has been stuck with the last 2 dots in her compendium not unlocking for ages now, the heart is there and I am 99% sure her trust has been maxed ages ago but those last 2 dots just wont complete
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for me it's Benjamin
>guess it's time for THAT
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>>541697569
well shit, the only lego ive gotten a copy of was Yeka, and now i'm hoarding bones out of fear they'll bring the lego event back.
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>>541697980
Merged characters are buggy as SHIT with the compendium.
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>>541698403
>>541698403
>compendium
its shit
>no class changes
>no alts
ffs, fucking nips
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>Marianne crit line
>GOD HAS DEEMED YOU DEFICIENT
Woah, never heard that before
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>>541699401
How did you get this? You gave her the crit dagger on mage or something?
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>>541698283
for me it's el hombre neutral
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>>541699594
I just had her auto attack a weak enemy, she has 12 sur naturally
A high sur 2h hammer frontline Marianne would be funny
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>>541699594
marein
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Good or Neutral Masketta?
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>>541700012
Good.
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>>541700012
I'm a neutralchad
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>>541700012
i'm good and it doesn't seem to matter much
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Is there always a chance to counterattack even without the skill?
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>>541698357
Then just give him a spear or something and ignore Eruption for now
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>>541700263
no
you need to learn skill from skillbook or inheritance, same for follow up
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>>541700360
I'm training a Clarissa for a bondmate and she did the counterattack but it didn't say counterattack above and she missed so maybe it was just a graphical thing? She obviously doesn't have the skill
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>>541694679
>4 characters with priest skills
damn anon you must hate status ailments
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>>541699401
I wonder now do all adventurers have lines both using magic and doing crit?
I remember some anon taught Chloe how to cast fire magic and she yelled fire or something
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>>541700584
dunno, maybe new update messed with something
>>541700593
priest as second class is great utility especially on fighter or knights
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>>541694679
Looks like no one here actually plays the game
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>>541700012
evil
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Havent played in a while, are ninja kunai just completely outclassed by bows now cause of the buffs?
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>>541701260
I'm playing Digimon while waiting for anni gwo
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Not gonna lie fellow adherents, smells like heresy in here.
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>>541694679
Still my starting team
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>>541701260
he asked for non-meta teams and i use 5 legendaries.
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>>541702075
solid
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>>541694679
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>>541702140
My point still stands.kek
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>>541694679
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he's real swos
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>>541702973
based brick city
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>>541702459
too meta
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>>541701650
Kinda
They were never that good in the first place
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>>541704173
Trust the plan, they're going to give thrown weapons a rework like they did with 2h
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>>541705296
any passive at all atleast.
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>>541703053
I got jumped scared by him the other day. He was standing directly to the left of a door.
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Anyone know exactly how many days of successful 9-10 times traveled dispatches it takes to get to level 60? Curious if I can raise this char to 60 before old castle ends
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>>541707121
2 weeks
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>>541707121
less than 2 weeks
you can speed it up by doing the daily exp request inbetween
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1 down. I didn't have all the mermaid statues secret messages on route 2 so I guess the final ending and octonarus will be all on my final run through the port city.
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>>541701260
I was at work, I have an excuse
its summer chloe and thief savia atm but otherwise the same
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>>541694679
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>>541699401
If Berkanan gets struck with fear she starts hyperventilating
One time Daniel started speaking and Agora told him to shut up while walking through Beg 7f
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>>541710853
>One time Daniel started speaking and Agora told him to shut up
What the fuck I need to hear this
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not like this..
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>>541711924
>>541711924
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