stimpack Edition>Update 10.2 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/272-hotfix-10-2-patch-notes>September Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/278-september-community-update>Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/61HZRF3.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks (WIP):https://i.imgur.com/oy6eQdx.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinksPreviously on the Battle-barge
>>541608059Previously on the Battle-barge >>541240038
Someone please clarify what the big red altar room in Vortex wants me to do to avoid damage.
I want to rip the fucking cock and balls off of whoever started this trend of screen-obscuring vignettes in video games.I KNOW I'M ON ONE WOUND I DON'T NEED THE EDGES OF MY SCREEN DARKENED.
>>541611905easiest for me is to just look at the altar and hide behind the pillar to the right closest to the altar, and beside the lower ramp. never experienced any weirdness there.
>>541612356I just need to lose line of sight to it? I must have misinterpreted an anon from before saying it was distance based.
>>541612526yeah pretty much.
>die to hive tyrant when it has one bolt pistol shot of health leftFuck, I thought that last power rake would have got him
Post code when the new hard strat arrives
>>541619623>Obelisk and Vox Lib had their turn already>Reliquary, Vortex, and Fall of Atreus remainI'm dreading the first two.
Has anyone gotten a boss in either of the altar rooms in Obelisk?
>>541621009Meant to say Vortex instead of Obelisk.
>>541621009Never. AFAIK, for obelisk, boss spawn is at the beginning sessioin (before/after elevator) and right after exiting the abyss.
This is going to be the first weekly hard stratagem I haven't beaten. Feels bad man.
CONSOLE PLAYERS ARE SO FUCKING WORTHLESS OH MY GOD. That was the BEST run I've had yet and tweedle fucking dumb and tweedle fucking #2, yes, I fought through THREE FUCKING CONSOLE NIGGERS DISCONNECTING, couldn't survive for 5 FUCKING MINUTES. We had 2, TWO of the last alters captured and BOOM 3 sorcerers. I FUCKING HATE CONSOLE PLAYERS!!!!
>>541621494>>541621119
Okay, so what is the actual rundown of the Vortex Beast?Does it have a head worth shooting, or is it better to just fire as soon as there is an opportunity? When its spraying its laser rave everywhere, does an Iron Halo do anything? Should you be rolling from its projectile attacks in a single direction or should you go back and forth? When it has targeted you in melee should you roll or block?
I CAN'T FUCKING DO IT. THIS WEEKLY HARD STRAT IS TOO FUCKING HARD FOR ME. I GIVE UP. YOU WIN.
>>541625832>Does it have a head worth shootingNo. Treat it like an anti zoanthrope. Forget bolt weapons, trust in plasma>Laser rave and iron haloHell no. Treat it like a zoanthrope beam. You CAN block the warp bolts though. Delay your roll as much as possible so you don't get hit a lot in the recovery before executing another roll>melee comboIt will either do 3 or 6 swipes with delays in between since it likes to wind up a swing. Don't get greedy with gunstrikes. Parry and dodge until it falls down from its tantrum and THEN gunstrike. This also applies to its delayed laser-pointer explosion after overhead slams.
>>541626110I really tried to push through but my teammates kept going down and there was only so many times I could roll gunstrike the endless waves of Terminators before I messed up. Being Heavy is really too clunky sometimes.
I like how I can deactivate my iron halo during executions now.
IR9AVNew weekly hard Stratagem, has the timer limit on Decap.
Also you can't dodge too much
>>541628042Expired.
>>541629449Just post your own code then, got wiped anyway
Can someone post a screencap of the new hard start I still have ONE HOUR and TWENTY MINUTES until I see it
>>541630472DecapitationAbilities recharge fasterDodging/rolling eats half your armour bar and sliver of health14-15 minute timer
>>541626801it is nice, yes.
>>541630571This one is so much easier than last weeks.
This week's hard is so much easier, did it with a p0 level 21 Vanguard with Melee champion.
the helbrute mode is so disgusting i just stomp my way to victory when i get it. how much thought was put into this
>>541633073Easiest mission and an overrated negative modifier (armor malfunction).and you have fast ability charge to offset it. Pretty much yea
>>541633757Not a whole lot... same goes with pretty much everything else with the game.
The cleanest I've ever done this boss fight and I had to fight alone for 3 minutes. Somehow not using dodges made it much easier to not make mistakes.
>>541611905put the alter between you and the large red orb
>>541630571>dodge damage on decap of all missions
Some animations should have super armor against Minoris blue attacks. You're telling me that I'm a fucking 1 ton walking tank swinging a huge thunder hammer, and all of that momentum is stopped by some puny hormagaunt? I'm tired of cancelling charged attacks because some little fucker decides to jump on me.
>>541636943What, you don't like being punished for doing a boss mechanic?
Absolute dogshit player joins at the end, takes all the stims because he keeps dying to 1 warrior or a few horms. Why have they not put a limit on hard strats?
>>541637957You should have shitter detector by now and instantly kick or at least take their stims.
>instantly kickwhat did he mean by that?
>>541638252I mean instantly start the kick vote and hope other guy detected it too.
>>541636943You know, this is one of the few times just running away might work aside from the sword beams.
>>541638063I should next time. Me and an assault blew threw 10 biovores and ended up failing at the last part in ballistic engine because of this guy.
>>541638502If you can't kick, just don't let them get stim. It's better to let them get into respawn and just killing until they come back maybe a distraction later.
>>541638763>to let them get into respawn and just killingsaar?
>>541639014I mean just keep killing majoris to shorten the respawn timer. They will eventually respawn and at least be a distraction so you can get through your mission
I only play at the lowest difficulty.Enemies are bullet sponges already, I wanna feel like a space marine. Fuck your difficulty.
- thou shall break boxes and tag armor boosts and med stimms for your battle brothers- thou shall move with your brothers, not charge ahead alone- thou shall guard your battle brothes as they guard youAS THE CODEX DICATATES!
>>541640564That's not very grimdark of you
>>541640564based
Just realized how thoughtless ammo placement is on Ballistic Engine>early boss>magdump to zero>drain the big ammo box>so many extremis that I'm almost out>go up the elevator>another boss and no ammoA lot of levels are hard just because the level designers forgot to leave more ammo around for too long of a stretch.
>>541641389At least you get a big ammo box, which is more than enough for 2 boss fight. You can run into TWO boss before hitting any big ammo crate nor a single stim on inferno
>>541641389they didn't forget. the levels were never designed to account for two bosses in the first place.
>>541641493Something I've learned by accident on Inferno is that you can in fact open the guardsman camp even if you have a terminus chasing you, so you do get ammo.
>>541640564So you don't know a damn thing about space marines huh?
>>541640727and most importantly- you will for the emperor back
>>541641562Yea, that's what I usually do if I run into 2nd boss before guardmen camp as well but you can't always communicate with rando to do so.
>>541640564>the horrible tyranid swarm of 5 hormagaunts and a single bonesword warrior
>>541641389I think reliquary is even worse>Chaos>Half the mission finding power/following the most unoptimised servo skull>That entire bridge section
>>541642671Don't forget the final boss that makes the two melee classes want to kill themselves
>>541642671>following the most unoptimised servo skullshame what was supposed to be a comic relief became an universally hated segmentI also despise the terminator ambush that can trigger when you're finally going outside.
>play tac>clearing out waves feels like a struggle sometimes despite using meta builds>play heavy>clearing out waves feels like a struggle sometimes despite using meta builds>play bulwark>shit dies almost instantly every timeit's just a fencing chainsword i don't understand
>>541643038>an universally hated segmentThe in-universe became a reflection of the out of universe. Its fun to poke fun at people stuck in line at the DMV until you're actually fucking standing there waiting for the publicly funded retard to come off their 3rd break of the hour.
>>541643181shock grenades and that other aoe perk fucks little shitsnow try bulwark against chaos marines
Is something wrong with the server? If 1 guy drops no one else joins anymore
I hate it when some shitter camps the las cannon controller on Termination.
>>541643685That's been an issue for a whileExit to the title screen and re-enter the battle barge to fix it
>>541643685isn't that just normal east asia/oceania experience?
>>541643935Is that because there's less players in that region so local matchmaking sucks?
>>541643990yeah that often seems to be the case
>>541643935>east asia/oceaniaThis timezone fucking sucks, you're all paired with far worse shitters than west coast burgersIf they have a Chinky name, they absolutely suckYour best bet for random clears are Japs and gooksSEAnignogs are a mixed breed of terrible or decent
Did the normal weekly during prime time Aus and noone joined. I think it's finally dead.
Completed the hard weekly. Had a harder time with this one than last week's for some reason. Neurothrope spawns after the bridge explosion are such a bitch.
based
>>541647052woah, I never thought it could be stunned twice in a row. with my luck though I would probably trigger the second melta with a flamethrower or plasma
Have the removed having to charge the battery train twice on Fall Of Atreus? I haven't had that in ages.
>>541645791just got a full game instantly
>>541648673yes, fall of atreus is pretty fun now.
lol
>>541650772kek
>>541643181>Intimidating aura on t4+ does 122 damage around you on parry ever 5 sec >shock grenade on parry every 20 sec>shit just takes 25% more damage in your shock fields>charge attack prestige perkIf only the game showed that
>tfw no musky guardsman gf
>complete an OP>load screen>host leaves game>load screen>new host leaves before i can exit>another load screen>have to exit to title to no longer be host>load screen>hop back into the game>load screen>every screen needs to double check internet connection too
Come out of an execute, then lose 80% of my hp to a hellbrute's charge shot from across the map, the stun not letting me react to the terminator raping me. I hate it.
>>541653387Its funny how Nids work and Chaos simply doesn't.
>>541653348>Try to do weekly hard strat>Load into game>Faggot sitting afk at the armoury>Leave>Next game>Load into game>Loading for 5 minutes, just loading nothing else.>Alt + F4 game>Have to start the game again>Look for another match>Load in>Screen goes dark>Stuck at loading screen for 3 minutes>Host has left the game>Finally launch into game
Mentors Champion Pack when?
>>541641597That does not need to be stated. Anything else is HERESY.I always do the handskahe / respect before the boss fights
>>541641576I know more than enough. I also know that bio-tech insect races are conceptually shit.I want the tyranids to swarm me like it's EDF, not to be sponges that eat multiple melta blasts to the face.
>>541537819>Look at the achievements, surely Boltgun can't be considered that long>Only 31% of the playerbase has completed Chapter 1 which is about 2-3 hours>Compare it to a much bigger game I liked>37% of people have completed A singleplayer run on Armored Core 6, which is about 20 hoursMan, Boltgun really did not grip people.
>>541656869I bought it the other day. Thinking about refunding it.
>>541656869>Only 31% of the playerbase has completed Chapter 1well, that's probably because of false advertising. People expected to be buying a boomshoot, and got an arena/twitch shooter
>>541656869>buddy gifts it to me>oh neat a doom clone>it's actually a doom2016 clone with gated arena design instead of enemy placement being on the level from the get go>turns out that doom2016 format doesn't work if you go for a boomer shooter vibe, since Boltgun lacks the gunplay, graphics, soundtrack, enemey damage models and everything else that made 2016 doom work>the game just keeps going for hours upon hours, all in the same "retro" versions of generic warhammer ruins>enemy roster stays basically the same after like 1-2 hoursLike other people are saying, the game could've worked if it was like 4 hours long, but it overstays it's welcome.
>>541656759>I want the tyranids to swarm me like it's EDF, not to be sponges that eat multiple melta blasts to the face.This would be the best option. Sadly, we'll never get this unless SM3 is a PC-only game. Consoles are truly a blight on gaming.
>>541656759You clearly don't. Space marines are jobbers. They're just astra militarum but more expensive. Their "power fantasy" only exists when fighting chaff like traitor guardsmen.
>>541657376>>541657146IMO the boomer shooter resurgence and the love of Doom 2016 arguably only clicked with people because the execution animations are a form of cheap but effective form of catharsis. Genuinely, I believe it's the same reason we all enjoy Space Marine 2 despite the massive glaring flaws that plague every inch of the game. Disregarding the topic of the massive price hike entirely, Doom: The Dark Ages, which cut the execution animations, doesn't get anywhere near the leeway that even Eternal got with its retarded gameplay decisions. Coincidence? Maybe, but I believe part of it is the cheap catharsis was ripped out of the game. The easy dopamine breathers are gone, so people bounced off the game.I have also never once seen anybody earnestly praise the likes of Amid Evil, or Dusk, or Boltgun, and continued to play them long-term. They're all poser games that people bought, played for an hour, and left to rot in their Steam libraries.
>>541658108No, the speed, flow and mechanical depth of doom eternal is what made people love the game. "Boomer shooter" like Ultrakill try capture that depth, succeed, and became one of the most popular game in the genre. In comparison, Boltgun is pretty mechnically basic and actually play like a boomer shooter made in 90's more than the current most popular "Boomer shooter"
>>541658571doom eternal was not anywhere near as liked as 2016, it's a very divisive title.
>>541658748But Etnernal is well liked among the hard-core crowd of the genre, not casual players. The hard-core fans are the ones who push the genre into games like Ultrakill
>>541658902right, and that's a small minority of people, and arguably why modern doom has fell off. 2016 hit this perfect sweet spot between old sensibilities with new modern ideas. dark ages was a massive over-correction to the negative feedback against eternal, but then proceeded to keep none of the parts people liked about 2016.
>>541659038No, that small minority is what push games into the limelight. The casual mass do not push the game forward because it's just another game they just mindlessly play through on normal, if play through completely at all, then forget about it. 2016 was also ahead of its time and introduce elements that evolutionalized into doom eternal gameplay anyway.
>>541659549doom 2016 became big because it clicked with average joe call of duty man. little to no part of its success can be attributed to some small clique, especially when they were shittalking 2016 for years before finally softening up to it. i very much remember /v/ treating the game like a casualized leper title for years.
I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION I HATE ARMOR MALFUNCTION
>>541659726And those "call of duty" crowd aren't loyal. They will forget about doom as soon as a shiny new COD released. 2016 was shit talked before released because people expected it to be shitty casualized cash grab but it actually introduced good elements that made good high octane single player fps back. The pre-released gameplay footage of 2016 didn't help due to them being played by journalists back, leading to some infamously bad representation of the gameplay. Doom Eternal did move the genre forward and gain more dedicated fans in a genre where fans were non-existence before. Some people were not happy with some of the mechanics of Doom eternal, sure. However, if Doom Eternal wants to be inoffensive and plain, it would just be like Boltgun and be another forgettable fps title. Dark Age actually took a step in casualizatiom and streamlining, leading the existing hard-core fans to be dissatisfied and the "casual players" won't touch it due to price tag anyway
Bonds of brotherhood shouldn't be a perk, it should be standard.
>>541658108Nah, Eternal was actually a good game that I loved. The sense of power you get from getting good and blasting through shit on nightmare, UM and challenge levels is insane. Executions were the least favorite part of the game for me, since they all sucked.SM2 executions go hard as fuck in comparison, except for a few rubric marines ones.
>>541658748It literally sold 3 times more copies than 2016
>>541663189Both eternal/sm2 execution are similiar in a way that if you aren't getting hurt or aren't in situatiom where you need the i frame, you don't need to do it and should just maintain your momentum by skipping it. Of course, execution usually looks better in 3rd person rather than 1st person.
>>541663375because people mostly expected it to be more of 2016. its massive push towards combined arms gameplay where burn/freeze/chainsaw returned specific kinds of resources along with the higher mobility focus did not sit well with people.
>>541664112i personally didnt enjoy eternal, i can see why peple enjoy it but its just not to my taste when im playing a game like that. you are right in that i did expect DOOM 2016, but i never finished eternal
space marines?
>>541664112But it is very popular and most people were happy with it. Eternal still have extremely consistent long term player base over its lifetime and still have good playerbase now. Games that follow eternal gameplay formula such as ultrakill also became popular, long lasting, and stood above other indie retro fps. Dark Age was basically the dev listening to the few people complaining about eternal and trying to cater to them. Dark Age explicitly advertise to be more streamline and less mobile than Eternal, and look how the game turns out and the reception of it. It has LESS players than eternal now despite of being a way newer game.
>>541664327Doom guy is a space marine.
>>541664927retard
>>541664994Rude
>>541660373Just stop spamming rolls bro
>>541665454>just don't do the core mechanics that you need to do to not take range damageFuck you and your faggy modifier
>>541665809It only hurts you on slop rolls. Perfect dodge doesn't matter.
How the shit is the Ultramarines cosmetic pack the same price as the Raven Guard or Blood Angel when it's literally just a bunch of colors and a tiny forehead symbol on the existing tacticus helmet? Like what the fuck?
>>541665809Just don't overuse/overreliant on a core mechanic and you can easily regain back health/armor lost if you roll moderately anyway. Stop using 5 rolls to dodge every one attack and only do one with good timing to dodge one that actually needs dodging. Use grenades to stagger range enemies so you can just sprint to close in instead of roll slops your way in
>>541666190>just a bunch of colorsstill the only way to get purple and a saturated bone color
>>541665903>Perfect dodge doesn't matter.shame there's a whole bunch of attacks that you can not perfect dodge
>playing last week's hard strat>gun it to the first elevator>rest of the team stops back at the beginning to fight five zoanthropes>one guy yells at me>tell him we don't have to fight everything to move to the next area and call him a dipshit for stopping every two seconds to engage shit>goes down and ragequits calling me an asshole>other guy guns it over to me and we take the elevator up and leave those zoanthropes faggots below usIs it that hard to just ignore shit and go for the objectives?
>>541666190I guess it suffers from losing its special shoulder pad and weapon skin to another DLC, which was all covered up by the season pass giving all of it. It really is the worst value DLC so far. Meanwhile the RG pack has such insane value>MkVI helmet >two types of helmet stripes, opening up an absolutely massive amount of new chapter options>several wide-range usable chapter icons that can represent a ton of different chapters>a few decent extra cosmetic bits>all without containing a champion skin to inflate the price
Minotaurs or Exorcists?
>>541667873Marines Malevolent.
>>541666975Really? List them all, I don't have any problems.
>>541667873Alpha Legion
>>541668074haven't played the game for a long time now have we
>>541668229Nope I have completed all the Stratagems today with pubs.
>>541668074Ranged attacks that aren't zoanthrope beams.One that I imagine is especially egregious on this mission is the tyrant's psychic attacks, but any neurothrope spawn would have a similar effect. Even if you manage to recover any CHP lost between dodges, they'll still deprive you of armour that could soak up a melee hit from a future mistake.
>>541668596Looks like you are not worthy of the 200 Stratagem points.
>>541668792Oh I just haven't tried it yet, just clarifying what the other anon said.Armour malfunction sure is just kind of unfun to have active though. Only good thing about it is making the heroic bolt pistol more viable.
i dont find thropes to be a big deal with armor malfunction honestly, it's the fucking venom cannons that get me
To the tac who carried me and then rage quit with the vanguard thank you+200 accolades
>>541671325>>541669252>>541671571Nani the fuck
>>541671821I tag some one, I misspelled something etcI just want to do it the right way if I don't something catastrophic will happen
>>541671571>he didnt just permastagger the hive tyrant to death like >>541650772
>>541672045I didn't know you can do that lol
>>541672045kek how do you even do that?
>>541673545just build for it and spam it in its ass
>>541665809I did it as an assault with a block chainsword and inferno pistol.
>>541668596>tyrant's psychic attacksDamn it feels good to be an assault in this operation. You just leap up and charge a ground pound while the tyrant's shockwaving. You'll avoid all three waves by just holding the melee button.
>>541650772This still works?
>blast away 95% health of the Helbrute>Assault dude just jumps in and does executionbeing Heavy is a thankless job
>Canifex falls down and gets stuck during the console part in ballistic engine.
>the moving island got stuck and are elevated so nobody can get on themfix your game assholes
>>541643181>play pyreblaster>everything dies in 2 secondslol
>>541675574was it supposed to be patched out or something?
>>541679106there have been 2 minor patches since 10.0
>>541679106He meant shield rush being able to stagger bosses, which was an unintended "bug". Yet another one. They were supposed to patch it in the hotfix.
>>541679367It only works if you hit it in the ass at that angle i believe
>fighting Carnifex in melee keeping it occupied>Both Sniper and Tactical retards are trying to melee it too and keep getting hit>Know for a fact both of them have full or nearly full ammo>I'm getting chipped to death by ranged gaunts and warriors while these two retards keep getting hitjesus fucking christ no wonder your average space marine dies to complete nonsense
best guns for Tact and Heavy at the moment?
>>541683593Pyreblaster and relic plasma.
>vanguard>is at 10% hp in the first minute of the op>is dead twice by the fifth >you guessed it melee champ100% of vanguard players are mentally retarded.
>>541686328My friend loves playing vanguard and he doesn't melee
>>541686328I don't exactly hate those vanguards when I'm playing an assault, cause I really minmax on melee damage perks.My perks combined with that vanguard perk give me like a 70% melee damage bonus against certain enemy types iirc, and that's on top of the perfect block damage buff stacking.
>>541678937Yeah, I thought it was already patched out with the first patch 10.1 hotfix.
>>541682429I sometimes go into melee as tact simply because I have the perk that gives an auspex mark on perfect parry and the skill itself is on cooldown.Sniper is fucking retarded though.
>>541688158b..b..but muh breakpoints! on shadow stab! with blocking knife!
This week I'll buy the triple bolt pistol
>>541686531How does he not run out of ammo?
>>541689061he dies.
>>541637367you're a 1 ton walking tank being mogged by everything in this game, it's not a space marine fantasy it's a mediocre parry and dodge fishing game so if that's not what you're looking for you should play boltgun or darktide
>>541643038Now imagine if they actually added an escort mission where you have to prevent your charge from getting killed.
>>541653348>have to exit to title to no longer be hostAll of your issues would've been solved if you skipped this step. Hosts don't get loading screens.
Submission for the wall. Ultramarines chapter command.
>>541686328I usually drop to 10% in the first minute and then stay that way throughout. But I haven't tried vanguard yet.
>>541699595hosting is lonely
>>541699935Received.
>>541667081>Is it that hard to just ignore shit and go for the objectives?Depends
>>541682429I've been bitched at before for handling the adds while the others were keeping the carnifex occupied
>>541658108>never praise Amid Evil, or DuskAmid Evil is fucking stellar (even if I didn't care for the DLC) and Dusk is worth playing and maybe even replaying. Dusk is everything Boltgun isn't, an actual improvement of the 'boomer shooter' while if not having varied weapons, always having varied maps and enemies.and on topic for sm2, I still hate fighting chaos spawn because they're so inconsistent. I can flawlessly fight three at once sometimes and eat shit to just one other times.
I hate chaos I hate heretics and above all else I hate traitors
>>541665809Rollslopping takes half your armour tab, don't roll if you don't have armour and always execute/gunstrike to regain armour back.One of those missions again where regaining armour is more useful than contested health because rollslopping while you only have health or worse contested health is practically suicide.15 minutes per area is generous but never stay too long especially in the first two open areas and the 2nd last area in the tunnels or you'll summon a Terminus that way.
Mother fuckers took all the steams did not use his banner to heal me once, fucking xbox users i hate them so much
>>541665809The decapitation boss only has 1 annoying attack and its long range sword swipes that send out that green shit at you. But here is the good news; he doesn't use it when you're close to him. Its purely a ranged attack. 90% of his attacks can be parried while up close which is how you should be fighting him. You can wipe him out in a minute if you have any tact who parrys him and applies auspex continuously. Combine that with the flamer passive that increases melee damage (which stacks with auspex) and he goes down easily.The only "hard" thing with this mission is getting idiots to just ignore enemies and rush forward.
>>541683593Pyre is OP, otherwise stalker. For Heavy, Pyre/Heavy Bolter/Plasma. Not the heroic plasma, its dogshit.
>>541713523>be bulwark>eat shit and have no armor>tyrant focuses me>proceed to either parry him or dodge into gunstrike and basically hold him there for almost his entire second healthbar>when he does the big aoe wave attack, dodge then hit a plasma pistol shot to recover>die to a single bone warrior jump because I wasn't paying attentionAnd the worst part is I'd just gotten my banner back.Still, we won and I got my 200 blue money. Lion would be proud.
>>541683593>TacticalPyreblasterPlasma IncineratorStalker bolterBolt carbine (the full auto one)>HeavyAll of his guns are good, you need to run Additional Supplies if you're using Heavy Plasma or the Heroic Heavy Plasma and if you're not running ammo version Multimelta; Heavy Bolter and Pyrecannon don't need Additional Supplies, always take Encompassing Aegis
Yet again in a Decapitation Hard Strategem there is no Terminus spawn for me right before Hive Tyrant's room
>>541658108Dark Ages does have Glory Kills, but only when you jump on the enemies. And I liked Amid Evil, Dusk, and Boltgun.
>>541722869you got luckymeanwhile there's a group out there fighting a normal absolute game only for a neurothrope spawn just before the elevator near the end
>>541722869Same. Just got that, too. Not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
>>541723171I've been running Absolute Decapitation for weeks now and these terminus spawns right before HT just isn't happening.It's always right before the fucking elevator.
>>541718846You're forgetting the accuracy bolt rifle. It's an automatic stalker bolt rifle with more ammo.
After eating shit countless times on the last Hard Weekly, the feeling of victory here is hollow. Even though I know the last one was a luckfest of bullshit, I still feel inadequate as a Marine. This only took a handful of attempts.
>>541723405No it isn't and nobody caresI'm not picking a sniper weapon to hold it steady over someone's head for 20 fucking shots.
Need more class specific executions. Like Scipius going in and out of cloaking against a Lictor, Decimus yanking a Thrope out of the air with the grapnel, etc.
>>541724023Then why recommend the stalker bolter? It's the same goddamn thing but semi-automatic. The regular crit bolt rifle still can one-shot minoris, too.
>>541671571This happened with me and another guy too. I don't think the guy rage quit, I think he had a disconnect, but still. Watching the Tac Bot get tossed around for 30 seconds as he kept trying to res me was nail biting. The Tyrant had 2mm of hp left and I got up and mag dumped him.
Operations in this game are too fucking long to not have a rejoin system for when the game eventually disconnects you.
>mods detectedumm... i don't have any mods...
>>541724601I think the servers are bugged, if someone leaves an active game no one else rejoins.
>>541658108I picked up Dusk recently. It's fun as shit. I think the soundtrack is probably doing a lot of heavy lifting though.
>>541724191No its nowhere near the same fucking thing you retard it takes like 5 headshots to kill with it as opposed to 21
anyone trying to do 15 waves of siege?
>>541725007So you haven't used it, got it.
>>541640727If we all agree to speedrunning, don't sit trying to fight things like a dumb fuck. Use your grenades to stun and keep moving.
>>541725168Nigger just admit you haven't used either weapon and are trying to pretend the b-tier bolt rifle is worth mentioning
>>541636943It's legitimately better to block and get the stun off the buffed melee.
>>541724726Andrew Hulshult is single handedly carrying the boomer shooter scene with his music.
hear me out bros, Helldivers 2 but it's Imperial Guard
>>541726447>40k >Good gameplayPick one
>>541726447How about Red Orchestra 2 but guard.
I'll have all the heroic weapons unlocked by next week. I really don't want to buy the gloves.
heyim really bad at this game
>>541729862once i do all the missions in absolute i will just stop playing until new class, im new and already prestige 4 classes
>>541726447Going to have more friendly AI than enemies so it'd play very differently. Scions don't get sent on meatgrinder suicide missions far away from ground support on the regular either.
Does anyone know the next set of Heroic items we can purchase? I think I'm gonna buy the pistol, but if something cooler is coming out, I wanna save. Lightning Claw? I could do a Brother of the Snake thing.
>>541730874hammer
>>541731017Lame. Is it like Forge Breaker or World Breaker? I'd save up for Perturabo's hammer or Horus' maul. Maybe it could be Illuminarum?
>>541731105You get a shock grenade effect after a charged slam.
>>541724635I just had someone join after taking another leavers place. They showed up just in time to defeat tyrant. Good for them. Seems to work. Maybe its just rare.
>>541730874If I remember right it’s >hammer:detonates shock grenade on full charge>heavy bolter:fencing parry window>heavy bolt pistol:instantly stops reinforcements call on headshot>power fist:grants gunstrike mark on nearby enemy whenever you get a kill>instigator:five shot burst instead of 3>bolt sniper:ammo refund on headshot
>>541732779you just made that all up, didn't you?
>>541733160It's all been datamined
>>541732779>>heavy bolter:fencing parry windowHeavy once again powercreeping into that stratosphere.
>>541731678It will be heavily gimped. There is no way they will give you free shock nades for charging up an aftershock, which does not actually take a significant amount of time at all if you are using it proactively ahead of the horde.
>>541734274If its not accuracy variant its still a choice between mid/long range damage or close quarter safety
>>541734274>>541734528Please let it be the venting speed.
>>541734274Heavy bolter is still a bolter and not plasma. It will automatically be his only choice if using this weapon type however. Controlling enemies is the heavy bolter's biggest weakness and users trying to hodl ground will typically be relying on contested health regen, which is much more dangerous than armor. Having a fencing window changes that completely.
>>541734389There will be a cool down probably. Still a solid choice if the cd isn't too long
>>541733747That's so lame. I looked on, Ruinous Powers forgive me for uttering such a blasphemous title,>Redditand apparently the Power Fist is going to be Calgar's? That's cool at least. I was hoping they'd find a way to integrate the underslung Bolters, but oh well.
>>541732779power fist is gonna be crazy with armor reinforcement
>legit can't find a single game doing quickplay lethal opsis game ded
>>541736974>has fencing statlinePreemptive speculative ruh roh
>>541737372oh so its fucking useless
>>541732779Pretty sure heavy bolter was an extension to the parry time (and instant full cooling on gunstrike), at least if my memory serves. More an extra duellist perk than actual fencing.
>>541739101We don't know
>>541737209its hard to tell because the api is a raging dumpster fire
What's with Vanguards running melee expert on Absolute+, and 300 ping players playing better than them?
>>541737209ProbablyI've had major graphical glitches in every game for, like, a week and a half now with no rhyme or reason.
>>541686328vanguard is easily the most survivable classanything going wrong? no problem you can just zip out over to a ranged enemyenemy reinforcement call? instant interruption with barely any aim required, enraged enemy or not50 different perks for damage reduction and avoidance20 different perks for healingits the only class where extremis spawns work in your favour and are basically a force multiplier for your team (most of the time)
What if our Techmarine was our Thunderhawk pilot all along?
>>541744716imagine not being able to play as a techmarine in exfiltration
What are they going to do for Fall of Atreus when we actually do have a techmarine?>inb4 you're not allowed to bring techmarine because of the one line saying you don't have one in the mission
>>541745394if (techmarinePresent) removeDialog(...)
>>541745394they are going to record another voiceline anon
>>541744716Jove will no longer be piloting a Thunderhawk after misjudging its state of damage for the tenth time.
>>541746238>Jove will no longer be piloting a Thunderhawk
>>541745501>>541745547They'd never do that, because it makes sense. You guys need to think like strung out slavs
>>541743929Seriously though. I find that all the other classes feel like shit to play since I've maxed Vanguard. You can move with ease, you have 3 weapon slots, and you have healing. Bulwark and Assault feel like boring dogshit. It's just right click right click right click for 20 minutes. Tactical used to be my favorite class until I got better, then it just felt like a worse Vanguard due to the lack of healing and maneuverability. I actually think I'm about done with this game until the next update.
these are all mediocre
>>541747423I took Second Look because I sometimes overshoot trying to auspex a faraway zoanthrope
>>541747564also a must have for lunging enemies like tyrant or the mutalith beast>when your health is less than X, then Ylmao i remember when these were meta and people kept their health low on purpose
>>541747423fortitude or spare power
>>541747423I would get skilled supplier, Fortitude, and spare supplier. Skilled supplier make it easier to level prestige since you are without your ammo regen perk for most of the prestige. Also, there are no better alterantive perk even after you max out prestige so might has well have that extra ammo cushion so you don't have to execute all the time.
>>541747423OP has a solid graph with perks that the thread was theory crafting not long ago.
>>541747423Second Look is a noob trap, don't aim too far or git gud
>Vortex>lose 66% max health stratFUCK THIS SHIT
>>541752409i love when the vortex beast just hyper focuses you really fun boss
>unmatched zeal is a noob trap, just don't lose health:^)
>>541752439well? it's the only attack that targets a single player, the only time you have time to shoot it. just dodge nigga and let other guys handle it.
>>541752570>let the other guys, who have no head to shoot at nor can they get close to melee it, deal with it
Every ranged warrior targets me when they spawn with the Carnifex on my ass wtf?
>>541752570>the only attackive had times where it doesnt stop fucking jumping and attacking me for like 10 consecutive attacks and probably only one was parriable
>get so used to not having invig icon while leveling bulwark through the prestiges I completely forget to use it at all during the extra op i have to run because the last lethal i did only got me to 24.8I even medkit'd before placing it, too
>get DC'd from the game>can't connect to the server for an hourPeak game, Saber.
I hate vortex so god damn much. There's so many fucking BUGS. My model just completely disappears and I can't deal damage yet can take damage.
>>541755980I wish I could opt out of chaos missions when I click quickplay
>>541755980you are dealing damage, you just don't see bullets.i never remember what makes you come back, either a gunstrike or execution.
>>541756170My secondary and melee did no damage and I didn't come back from an execution (can't get a gunstrike).
>bulwark joins game>doesnt shield rush spamfor what purpose
>>541755980>t. fuckboy consumed by the Maw of TransformationEat shit, Corpse Worshipper. Choke on this bird dick while you're at it.
>>541657798You cleary don't. Tyranids are ill-concived and poorly executed.
>>541658108Power Fist is my beloved go-to melee weapon.
>>541759158The power fist just doesn't do anything for me. The Chainsword feels just right. It's got nice combos that have differing use cases that don't feel like they take an age to come out and it feels badass to use. With the Power Fist, I feel like it doesn't give enough feedback for what it's doing. I understand it's probably the better weapon, but it doesn't FEEL like it.
>>541759474>oneshotting half a dozen majoris at once doesn't feel like doing something
>>541759158The weapon is weird. Why the fuck does it rely on shooting big farts to begin with? Might be effective, sure, but it doesn't feel right. My guess is devs had fuck all idea how to improve it, but then they should've given it some ground pound animation with aoe effect. As it stands I'd much rather use power sword or chainsword.
Hello brothers, I finished the solo campaign and I have been trying to get into the PvE online stuff but let’s face it I am straight up not having a good time.I did all the training lessons for each class but they are pretty far from the true experience.My first tries were with Heavy with the big plasma gun and the melta handgun. As long as they mostly left me alone I was okey blasting away priority targets, dodging what came to me but the second the enemy really started to came at me it was basically me rolling everywhere hoping they would get tired of chasing me.Thought I would try a melee class with assault with Fist. I can deal with a few straglers but I see people slaughtering entire hordes without damages while I am here guzzling medicae.I understand it’s about timed parries and pistol reaction shots but I can’t get the timings right for the life of me, my character feels super sluggish, by the time he raised his hand to parry I got hit five times already, I also feel like I am not doing a ton of damages sometimes. I hit a tyranid warrior three times with a running strike and the guy barely gets staggered.I also read you had to thrash around in various directions to make sure no one hit you in the back but same thing here my character feels pretty sluggish and I always get overwhelmed.So does any old timer has good tricks for a Space Marine aspirant?
>>541760258what difficulties did you play on?
>>541759563There's no impact in the feedback. Yeah, I see them all going into red, but it doesn't feel like my punch is the punch to kill 6 warriors at once.
>>541760398I mostly played on Lethal and Ruthless.
fuck, but what if he is legit? He might have finished the campaign on hard and thought pve difficulties work the same.
>>541761082those are only tenable at low levels if you have a lot of experience. play substantial or below until you get some levels and learn how to play, it's not really comparable to the campaign
>>541760258>also feel like I am not doing a ton of damages sometimes.in pve your weapons can be upgraded, and every tier gives significantly more damage than the previous.>by the time he raised his hand to parry I got hit five times alreadyFor melee weapons, starting tier 2, you can select a fencing/balanced/block weapon variant. Until you learn all attack patterns, you probably would want to use fencing weapons, so that you can press the parry button as late as the enemy attack connects to your model.
>>541761082You cannot just jump to lethal with white weapons and no experience. Hell, even having the experience i'd still not go in without at least one semi-leveled weapon. You have to start on easier difficulties so you can actually figure the patterns out in a vacuum before they start overlapping massively. You'll know when you're ready to move up to the next difficulty because you'll be thinking that the one you're playing on has gotten too easy and you're beating it too reliably.Campaign is honestly not a great standard to measure yourself between how much it drowns you in healing and how fucked up spawns and weapon balance could be.
I want that helmet in the middle, cause it looks pretty cool!
>>541763024They should have added these non-blinged out helmets on the accolades tab, that way tryhards can always redeem something new weekly.
>>541763024>tfw no cool tabards for tactical like theseStill mad.
>>541763891no girls allowed
>>541657686You'd think we would've plateaued with graphics by now.One day surely we will though, and then games will finally be free to have high enemy counts and long draw distances without cartoonifying themselves or sacrificing virgins to the dark gods of optimization.
>>541763891some troon at gw is doing it on purpose
>>541763024Yeah that looks great>>541763891>>541766603It's because they painted some stupid latina eyebrows.
>>541767562still looks gay. even if you drop the eyeliner. I think the main problem is that it's supposed to be a negro face. When painted white the comically large lips make it female-coded.
getting tired of the crashes
>>541763891Vespasius!
>>541768794you don't need a shitty extension to build him, you get his head twice in the assault intercessors kit, you just need to get a jetpack separately
>playing with balanced weapons>good damage, good speed, still get parry stagger and gunstrikes>parry window is just a bit different>switch to bulwark>shield block makes you parry even earlier into the enemy attack, because the first frames are counted as shield block>balanced hammer works perfectly fine because no shieldWhy would they just not separate the fucking buttons, why is balanced actively worse on a bulwarks because he has a shield, he's literally THE parry classAlso the shield rush is fucking stupid. Now you can just safely teleport into the enemy blob and stagger everyone.
>>541769346I really dont understand balance people
>>541769469>fencing with better stats at a price of a worse different parry windowIt is THAT simple. Like timing is literally just a force of habit issue.
>>541769570If I wanted to deal with the stress of getting a perfect parry without a grace window which I sometimes do, Id rather use block for a truly exponential damage increase and extremely useful aoe stun for higher diffs.Balance makes no sense for me.
>>541769951As I've said, it is awkward when you use it after fencing/block, since both have active frames at the start of the animation.You do get used to the balance active frame window in a few games, so it's not a big deal. I prefer it to block on tyranid ops, because I have the option of not getting bodied by a 3/4-lictor jump squad, as block pfist is too slow to deal with more than one without problems. And outside of block pfist, balanced chainsword and balanced xenophse blade are about the same damage as block, with xenophase blade out damaging the block version even, on top of having a parry stagger and gunstrikes.
>>541770421Fair, to each his own
>>541769951After a game or two the smaller window is internalized and only comes into play once or twice a mission which you could recover either with a neutral dodge or just swinging through first (it feels like the parry window activates sooner if you've canceled out of a swing)
>>541769469A Block retard like you stuck with the inferior ways of your shit contrarian melee and defended it that everyone else laughs at youMeanwhile a Balanced user only has to adjust a bit and be on their way and not die in the first large mob in melee
>>541763273Now now, we can't have players unlock stuff they actually want. We want to artificially pump those numbers in the periods when they are dwindling and nobody's playing.
>>541763891Hello?! Diversity department?!All the POC are nogs or chinks. Why are there no Indian or Arab marines???
>>541763891More proof that Gadriel was a White Scar, no way a slanty eye yellow would be in Ultramar.He's extremely proficient with a jetpack too.
>>541769294Oh I know. I just wanted to point out he was there because nobody else had yet.
>>541776981Cawl accidentally mixed up some gene seed when making them.>You're now imagining a Raven Guard accidentally getting put into the Salamanders
Hmm, today I will play bulwark with thunder hammer and only use banner for reviving
>plebbitors proudly showing off how they have done vortex 30 times since the eventthanks, I have done it once since kek
>>541763024It's literally already in the game files.But with a skull because Saber must have a skull or some forehead shit on everything.
I am fortifying this thread.
>>541747423get second look and spam auspex on elevators
>>541786506They will add it to the blue doritos shop sooner or later anyway. I do wonder if you even have to complete the mission to get the helmet or is it one of those events where you don't even need to do anything beyond having a connected pros account.
>>541792957>spam auspex on elevatorsI can't believe I didn't think of this, I have failed as a tactical marine
>>541763891Odds Saber will give us half as many variants for head "customization"?
>>541793783lollmao
i really hope they add more to horde mode, its super fun but outside of getting the weapon skins, really isnt much reason to do it.
>>541796848I really hope they add a restore from wave X function. I love waves 15+ but it's so boring getting to it.
>>541793783Imagine being the poor Russian bloke who has to model the George Floyd lookin ass monkeys no one will ever choose to play as but have to be there anyway because of the diversity quota.Hang in there, Vasiliy.
>>541793783These are the only we'll likely get with some option to customize their hair etc. For instance Decimus doesn't have a grey beard but in pic related it's visible.
Three
Sorcerer in Terminator Armor as a new roaming Terminus enemy for Chaos, yes or no? Has less health than the helbrute.Killing him WILL stun surrounding Rubrics and Scarab Occults for a significant amount of time.
>>541800265>Killing him WILL stun surrounding Rubrics and Scarab Occults for a significant amount of time.Yes.
>>541800265>Terminus enemy with one gimmick that is useful only if you do what you should never do with a terminus enemyNo
>>541801876What else could they add to spice things up than fighting two helbrutes in a row?
>>541802124A melee Helbrute that acts like a chaos spawn.
>>541786506I did it like 5 times and it didn't save my progress.
>>541802124Chaos Champions.Actual sorcerers, not the bitch versions.Tzeentch Minotaurs.Defilers.Some kind of Daemon Engine
>>541803381Do Defilers still exist?
>>541802291A helbrute with the tentacle flail thing and a power fist would be a cool variant for sure.
>had ok team for normal siege going to wave 25>die at 25 even with dread because there isn't really a good counter to waves of chaos spawns backed by terminator rockets>rollslop until brute catches a whiff of your marinussy and one of those frames don't land in your favor
Haha, imagine a Helbrute with a missile pod and a reaper autocannon
>>541808352Saber totally would>it's literally just a ranged terminator but it has insane health and is way harder to interrupt>plus some special attacks that dial the BS of the guns and missiles up a notch for a few seconds>if you ever get into melee range of it it will TP awaySaber boss design team (consisting of one half hour meeting between the director and an intern) does it again
>>541806191>helbrute with 10 hit combo that u just have to sit and parry while u hope others are taking advantage of the window
>>541763024Which one do you think is better?
Does anyone have the pdf for the Path of Heaven HH book?
>>541816048just search it on anna's archive bro
Could /your dude/ take him on?
>>541816320Of courshe!
>tfw you play with the only other sons of g-man player in the gameShout out to the veteran smurf, codex compliance is a sign of high iq
wtf is going on bros? it was going up by like 50k per day. now its slowing down. i genuinely want this helmet
>>541819413>everyone does their one game to feel like they've contributed early>now it's back to just a bit more frequently played than it usually would be as most people return to playing the game normally>and people generally don't like the boss
>>541819413weekend's over
>>541819413its the worst mission and the beast isnt a fun boss fight
>crashed in siege even in a private lobby.God fucking damn it I just want those fucking colour weapons.
>>541816320Lay off the rippers
>>541818132>tfw you have the joy of playing with 2 other members of your chapter from different companies in the same game who are all serving in the DeathwatchThe Emperor smiles upon me brother much like he has smiled upon you.
>>541760258Check what type of weapon you are using. Block, Balance or Fencing. Chances are you might be using different ones, hence your issue with timings.It just takes practice though anon, grind some lower difficulty, get your guns upgrades and then move up
>>541819413Chaos sucks, the boss fight is poorly designed, the game is dying.
>>541791026Very good brother
>>541822707Leave after 10 waves.
>solo bulwark on ballistic engine, bots are vanguard and assault, get through no problem>end of the mission, get a massive wave, sandstorm and the "defend the bomb" mini event at the same time>spend the full 45 seconds getting juggled but not downed thanks to banner>fail because i cant see what the hell im supposed to kill on the tracks
>>541832295literally all you have to do is press the button to send the train and then throw one (1) grenade if you need to
>>541608059//// INCOMING TRANSMISSION ////>Imperial Administratum has granted access to records of all Astartes operating in Decidious System, CODENAME: ADEPTUS RETARDES>Dude Wall status: ACTIVE. >All Astartes present in Decidious System accounted for.>All First Founding Chapters accounted for.>All Astartes are to upload a FULL SCREENSHOT of their Dude and post their CHAPTER.Welcome, Brothers! It has been a significantly longer break since the last update, but nonetheless I am happy to bring you a new version of the Dude Wall.- All submissions of new and updated Dudes alike have been added to the image version of the Wall. The website will be update in the coming days (more on that below);- Minor updates to the alignment of section titles for First Founding Chapters as well as Inquisition & Holy Terra;- Updated resizing discrepancies in IF and RG successor chapters.My apologies that this update has taken so long, but I've been dealing with a particularly stubborn case of flu (no doubt a result of Tzeentch's and Nurgle's meddlings) and thus my work almost stopped entirely. That's where the delay came from. And I want to make that clear because I like to keep own dates.With that out of the way, I am slowly but surely coming back to my own and as mentioned above, I'll be updating the website accordingly. So stay tuned!Thank you for all your submissions, Brothers and should you have /YourDude/ to post, be sure to do so. Each one is welcome.Enjoy the latest version of the Dude Wall.Signing off,Wall Anon=IMPORTANT=>**Ultra high quality version of the Dude Wall is available on the website**>**For more comprehensive info on submissions please refer to: https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/ **Glory to the Imperium!//// END TRANSMISSION ////
Any new juicy leaks as of late?
>>541834040me last night
>>541815356Right. I really like the four face tubes.
what do i pick for my first Prestige Perk for Heavy? they all look kinda meh
>>541829746The connection issue sometimes crashes me within the first 5 waves.
>>541835061the stomp range and damage are the most impactful. heavy's stomp has no fall off so you deal the full 3x damage at max range.
>>541835061Auxiliary reload or conviction are your two mandatory perks. If you run into ammo issues, go with the former, and go with the latter if you're worried about survivability.
>>541833308Blood Angels Death Company
>>541835661>>541835275you guys just name all three available perks lmao
>>541835061Auxiliary reload first then stomp range
Would this Battle Sister be allowed in the Imperium? Y/N?Technically comes from humans. In a way. Technically.
>>541741909Oh shit, I thought my pc was dying or some shit. Glad that's not necessarily the case. Been annoying seeing all the smudged unloaded textures.
>>541836524obviously a Daemonette in disguiseBLAM
Man siege mode actually works for me in offline mode (but not private lobby)But I can't get progression in offline.
>>541837157Post code, maybe someone else will get lucky.
>>541836125The melee guy is the thread's resident shitter. Melee is a meme for heavy.
>Every single Heroic sucks ass>Sitting on 900 jew coins with nothing to buy >Only grabbed one cosmetic since most are ass anywayWhat a trash update desu
>>541608059kek
>>541837242Nah, it really doesn't work. I've tried private lobbies by myself and with another friend. It simply crashes between waves way too often.
>>541838187Pew pew plasma is meta. Imagine standing around making a big slow blob when you can just pew pew a lot.
>>541793041Do it at least once then stop caring
They should add group respawn checkpoints to the doors / interactables that are in front of final room bossfights in operations
>>541724093>straban jams his heavy bolter into the mouth of a carnifex and fires
>gibbed in less than 10 seconds by vortex beastI hate this fucking boss.
>>541724093>Quartus shoving his shield a warrior before firing his sidearm into his face point blank>Valius auspexing to locate a lictor before he headshots>Vaspasius using his jetpack to slam a zoan out of the sky
>>541845420No, that would be too fun, like the days of couch co-op.
>Decimus shoots the grapnel launcher through a sorcerer's neck>reels him in>grabs the other end of the line and wraps it around his throat>pulls until his head gets cut off
In the middle of creating my Terran Thousand Sons marine, I noticed that Khorne Red is basically identically to Baal Red for every piece of the armor EXCEPT the chest for whatever reason.
>>541836524If she comes from a stable population of humans that consistently have bunny ears, she would be allowed to exist, but probably not allowed to join the sisters of battle.If the bunny ears are a one-off mutation she would be executed.
>>541837672>Melee is a meme for heavy.>get all melee perks and green multimelta>consistently get most ranged and melee damage in ruthess and lethalcan't wait to level it up to gold so I can post an absolute stats screen when someone claims melee heavy is a meme
>>541854052It is a meme but that doesn't make it bad
>It's another "Carry the whole fucking team" episodeHow are people this dog shit at the game this long after release? I joined the sniper's game mid mission and this motherfucker proceeded to eat shit the entire run. Naturally the Heirophant decided to nuke the generator twice, so I got murked on it halfway through the charge. Thankfully the Bulwark was worth half a fuck at least and clutched up. Holy Hell, it's like the playerbase has gotten worse over time.
>>541854052Bragging that you can pad stats on gaunts is really just proving the point.
>>541855257Stop using non Gravis helmet with Grabis.
>>541855741you stop using firstborn helmets on primaris marines first
>>541855257Sniper fell off hard with nu-Absolute and harder game modes.
>>541852754It actually depends on the individual armor piece you're usingThey all have different shading, tinting and grime levels
I literally cannot find a torrent for the last 3 episodes of hammer and bolter wtf is this
>>541855741Look, MK10 fucking sucks. I say this as someone who came into 40k right as 10e dropped. Going back and looking at all the artwork and shit, the old armors are just better. My favorite is the MK4, followed by 6, 8, 2, 3, and 7. Maximus has the best scifi look without looking too tryhard or goofy like 7. 10 is just kinda soulless.
>>541857557That's why he has the Bolt Carbine. That gun fucks. Pair it with the cloak perks for headshot damage and you melt.
>>541858980>That's why he has the Bolt CarbineNo longer a Sniper, might as well play Vanguard
>>541859291Do you wanna win or do you wanna die with your sniper pin on your mutilated corpse?
>>541859386I'm an Eliminator, there's no point playing that class when I'm forced to engage in melee or close range combat.
>>541858891I said nothing about Tacticus, I said Grabbis. It is meant to look like a rounded Terminator helmet.
>Anons spinning their cameras during an execution to make it as cinematic as possible
>>541860626Woah that is not the image I wanted to post.
>>541860626I spin in the camera so I can instant react to some cunt attack from somewhere when the animation ends
>>541860701It's the image I wanted to see.
>>541860753Happening to me way more often these daysThere've been times i've gotten shot by a helbrute literally as soon as i exited the execute, timed perfectly so i wouldn't even be able to roll away
>turn on game>speed run normal strats>turn game offsaber designed it to be this way, but it didn't have to be this way
>>541860175Tacticus and gravis look just like each other and they both look horrible.
>>541857557Ammo stalker variant and ammo inferno pistol. Sniper didn't fall off but Fusil and Bolt sniper are in the dumpster.
>>541860626I spin it to see what the fuck else is coming at me.God I fucking hate all this parry garbage in games these days. Couldn't they have just made it a more normal horde shooter?
>>541861221I like bolt sniper though...
strength/firepower is such a retarded stat
>>541861330I know anon I love the Fusil so much but it's out of ammo too quickly in Hard. I used Fusil so much one day that my finger was aching from pressing the charge button down. I really don't like having to put down my favourite weapon in the game.
>>541798490Decimus looks like he has a story to tell me
>>541724093I'm extremely disappointed Bulwark doesn't have more sword specific executions
>>541861221Fusil is still good
>>541866404The damage is not bad, but the ammo economy even with the maximum amount of ammo you could go with is bad. If Hard inflates health numbers ~30% from Absolute, you are expected to waste that more ammo. This becomes even worse with terminus enemies because stalker can have 25% more terminus damage.
>>541866836It's not really a problem because you can take out some dangerous target really fast with it and then just melee the rest with block knife and recharge ammo consistently with perk
>>541836038Received.
>>541855667sorry CAN'T HEAR YOU over the thud of my power BOOTS aaaaaAAAAAA
>>541867235Oh you're a melee sniper. I am not even going to argue with you.
>>541868028nta, but sniper snipers are useless in this game.
>-66% HP + Chaos>-66% HP + Chaos>-66% Armour + ChaosShant be doing today's hards.
>>541868406>deletes venom cannons, zoanthropes, neurothropes, rubric marines, sorcerers instantly>staggers terminators instantly, does huge amounts of damage to them in the process>hands constant free executes off to teammates in the thick of itthe only thing sniper is bad at is consistent boss damage. if you're being overwhelmed by chaff as sniper it's because of a combination of shit positioning, your team is shit, and/or you dont know how to use cloak
>>541868406Literal skill and loadout issue.
>>541868645>the only thing sniper is bad at is consistent boss damageJust take block knife shadow stab insta delete.
>>541869478id rather build for 95% of the rest of the game
>>541868028If you aren't comfortable with melee, you aren't ever be good with sniper in absolute/hard stratagem. The 2 melee slots are also best in slot for the perks anyways. Targeted shot is the only competitive perk but that is only good with bolt rifle and las fusil and you don't like to use those 2. Personally, I still use the melee perk over it when I use las fusil.
>>541868645>>deletes venom cannons, zoanthropes, neuro->out of ammoalso>sorcerershis sniping weapons are shit at popping sorcerer shieldsIf you're trying to pretend like you can run through the game just shooting everything and never having to engage in melee then you're shit at the game, playing on a baby difficulty, and blaming the team for your failures.
>>541868645Yea, but in hard stratagem, you need to use melee to help clear all of that and still have enough ammo and "just hope teammates handle them" is not a good strategy. Yes, snipers are all good at those things but half of the time you have to work your melee and sniper has decent melee perk to contribute. For terminator, instead of wasting 6-8 las fusil shot to take out a terminator, or you can just stagger once so you can go in and kill with a shadow stab and not waste your ammo. Sword terminator will be on your ass and you can just murder it with block knife. Of course, sniper is also very good with equipment as well.
>muh las fusil>muh ammolmaoing @ ur life what is this september 2024
>>541870226it takes 1 pistol shot to pop a shieldand if u dont want to change weapons it takes 1 bolt sniper shotnot that u cant shoot through the gap from an angle (positioning issue)
>>541869520You build for 50% instead of just incorporate your melee into play for 100%?
What's with the 400mb update?
>>541871453id rather play to my class's strengths 95% of the time, and be able to parry things (including bosses). you might as well start telling everyone to build melee and do nothing but stomp around when they play heavy too. fucking retard contrarian snowflake
Come out of an execute and lose 80% hp and somehow all 3 armour from his aoe groundpound. Absolute fucking dogshit faction.
>>541871780why are you executing things with a helbrute running around in a cave tho
>>541871759Heavy melee does fuck all damage while sniper can do real damage with melee. You are still playing in your class strength and STILL can melee and contribute more on top of it. Nobody force you to only melee. However, if you only kill whooping 2 rubric marine that spawn and leave your team with 2 terminator, a hellbrute, and 5 chaos spawn because you don't want to heckin melee, you are just a bad sniper.
>>541871841I wasn't, that image shows it teleporting on top of some boxes and getting stuck. I had to execute the 4 flying spear cunts that spawned with it during the charge phase.
>>541872010>inability to pluralize>assumes i can't pop terminators and chaos spawns, or even weave mediocre (even with le epic shadowstab) melee.Your shitty block knife can't even parry any of these things, while I do on a routine basis. ESL nigger
>>541872063You didn't have to execute anything. You can just as easily shoot them in the head
>>541872210Just perfect block and delete.them with the double block stack? I still use parry knife for bolt carbine though so I can gunstrike to reload. I only use block knife for las fusil and stalker
>>541872380You can't parry a helbrute but yeah maybe chaos spawns a force multiplier for block hmmm
>>541872608You can stagger hellbrute with a 2 stack explosion. You usually need 2x parry to be able to safely gunstrike a hellbrute for a stagger. You can get 2 perfect block and get a hit in with the proc to get the same stagger + 2 more buffed heavy melee in, which does more damage than anything else you can do with a parry knife gunstrike combo. Block knife is much better at dealing consistent damage to boss than parry. The only except is heroic knife, which you can build dodge stacks and get a shadow stab in, which is fairly easy as well for hellbrute and carniflex once you know the moveset
>>541873014that sounds like the kind of thing you need a certain amount of luck for while also refusing to use your cloakalso you sound chinese
>>541873147You can just use your cloak shadow stab, especially for bonus damage. You can shadow stab hellbrute and carniflex in specific opening as well without, assuming there aren't other enemies that would interrupt it. For hellbrute, you can charge shadow stab just outside of the hellbrute smaller explosion range and get a full stab in. For carniflex, you can do it after it charge into a wall and get staggered, or when it turns to shoot spikes at someone else. You also usually watch to cloak + shadow stab a neurothrope when it does the expanding AOE as well for the best damage while also conserving ammo.
>>541873440>Stabbing a neurothrope at allif your teammates aren't killing it in 2 melee hits after the shield goes up then you're doing something terribly, terribly wrong
>>541873658Theoretically, your team can kill it, especially with a tact. However, you don't always have a tact and you are expecting rando to execute it perfectly. Sometimes, you are the only one getting inside the shield and you just have to get as much damage in as you can.
>>541873892even without teammates if you aren't killing it in a couple of regular melee hits after the shield goes up you must be not shooting at it at all or something. I think you're probably dumping way too much into the le epic shadowstab meme build at the cost of doing your actual job if you give it this much weight on a neurothrope of all things
>>541874079Are you playing hard stratagem? Hard stratagem neurothrope has plenty of hp even if you are shooting at it. Also, it doesn't always spawn when you have full ammo to dump into or have an ammo crate nearby to restock.
>>541874225You must be taking the piss. A fucking Neurothrope.
>>541871484It's just to get ready for the demo coming out in a week.
>>541873658Well something tends to go terribly wrong fairly often so you should plan around having to deal with the most extreme bullshit and be overprepared when its easy instead of planning for it to be easy then failing the mission when you're suddenly surrounded by 2 lictors, a ravener, and getting charged by a carnifex because no ammo crates spawned and your teammates are already down.
>>541874483You should be aiming to get a Neurothrope on the floor as soon as possible, not fucking gimping your ranged damage for epic shadowstab memes. I'd rather the sniper on my team was popping thropes out of the air and deleting venom cannons than tryign to play as a mediocre assault or bulwark
>>541874624But the easiest way to deal with a neurothrope that doesn't require a sniper, tactical, and heavy all focusing it is to deal with the side spawns first to make dodging the neuro attacks piss easy.
Thank God, the next new op is Tyranids.
>>541874353Yea, what about it? If only a neurothrope spawn and you can freely dump a full ammo las fusil into it, sure, you can take it down easily. However, neurothrope usually spawn with 6+ majoris and 1-2 extremist in 2 waves. You are going to have to use a few shot to clear some warrior on top of shooting the neurothrope. You might not even encounter the neurothrope at full ammo so you have to make due. Your teammates might or might not put in work. In the situation with limited ammo I rather use the las fusil to clear the zoanthrope and some warriors (especially ranged ones) and then maximize damage in the neuro with melee when it does the AOE expanding wave. If i just dump all las fusil I have into the neurothrope and maybe get it to half hp, the 2nd wave of adds spawn and now I have 0 ammo and there 10+ ranged majoris filling the screen with shit
>>541874939Yeah cause you can totally shadow stab the 4 zoanthropes and venom cannons (the type of actual threats your class is supposed to excel at dealing with when not trying to be a bulwark or assault)
>>541875064>Las fusillol when will you retards learn
>>541875327You aren't shooting all 4 zoanthrope 10 ranged warrior, and still have ammo to shoot the neurothrope whole hp bar neither.
>>541875327No, you shoot thoseAnd then the neuro does its barrier waves because you're not dealing with it before then and you make it inside and deliver a good shank for large damage
>>541875445learn to aim>>541875448you toomaybe if you retards could aim and put points into your class's real weapons at the same time instead of trying to play it as assault you wouldn't be complaining about running out of ammo
>>541875415As I said before, las fusil is good if you do enough work with melee to not be overly dependent on it. Las fusil is really good at killing specific targets but you have to pick your target to make limited ammo worth it. I actually prefer las fusil on chaos and stalker on nidders but las fusil is okay on nidders as well.
>>541875586I can hit all headshots and there aren't enough ammo for all of those
why are all sniper players autistic? I've never seen people mentioning dps tts or breakpoints when discussing heavy.
>>541875586Whoah, that extra 15% ammo perk will let me have enoigh ammo 1-2 extra majoris and totally solve all of my problems without needing to touch my melee weapons
>>541875650Las Fusil is mediocre, ammo has nothing to do with it, you can't reliably use it at close range, it gimps your agility and doesn't match the stagger output of bolt sniper either
>>541875896I mean enough ammo for extra 1-2 majoris killls.What a game changer
>>541875586You don't actually play on Absolute or hard strats
>>541875979>>541875745>>541875896good thing you have a whole fucking prestige perk that gives you infinite ammo as long as there are minoris around
>>541875974You can use it at close range if you use fire rate las fusil and the shear damage output is way better than bolt. Bolt is still good sure, but the ammo economy is still not good enough to be 100% dependable. I switch between Bolt and stalker for nidders but las fusil is significant more dependable on chaos. Of course, Bolt carbine is good for both but it is a different playstyle.
>>541876032>Y-you dont actually do thiswhatever helps u feel better about ur no aim
>>541876252Yea prestige is there, but it has an internal cool down. For hard prestige, the volume of enemies and the tankiness of the enemies mean that you can't 100% keep up even with the prestige if you just dump your ammo at every target.
>there are people in this thread who actually waste ammo on targets that are one or two pistol headshots from being incapacitated or worse, take executions from teammates
>>541876392>n-no, I totally do this mathematically impossible thing all the time because i just aim guddercope, you play on baby difficulties and want to pretend like your opinion matters
*takes regen half ammo of hit shots*Infinite/2 ammo!
>>541876927I'm really sorry you can't aim bro, but it's not my problem
>>541877148>he doesn't deny playing on baby difficulties
>>541877502Look dude, you don't have to shoot that incapacitated, or nearly incapacitated enemy with your primary weapon, it's just not worth the ammo. Maybe if you didn't do things like that + were able to aim you wouldn't have these problems?
>>541877678I never said to do that? Are you still playing on baby difficulty though?
>>541877678>bro just let them get back up 5 seconds later or sprint over to them to try and execute them through 8 more devourer warriors, 50 gaunts, 2 biovores, and a carnifex volleyThen you're not killing them fast enough to ever consider "deleting" shit during a terminus spawn
>>541878046delusional
>What is your favorite Season Pass One cosmetic DLC?Well? Which one is it Brothers :^)https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/votes/65-what-is-your-favorite-season-pass-one-cosmetic-dlc?page=1
oh you're just shitpostingPlease kill yourself and stop wasting people's valuable time calling you a shitter when there are actual shitters who need coaching instead of being told>bro just stay 50m back and snipe shit but don't actually finish killing any of the things you snipeno more (You)s for you
FUCKING CHAOS MISSIONS KEEP CRASHING
>>541860626I do that all the time. Looks sick as fuck.
>>541878324I bought both season passes. Space wolf and BT champions are cool.
>>541879097>space wolves and BTIt's over for this anon
>leveling heavy for prestige>also decide to level the heavy pyre>bit difficult since i've been playing exclusively bulwark / assault for several months>feel like i'm retarded with how hard i'm struggling
>>541880461Those are good skins, no need to be a contrarian about it
>>541878324>FavoriteUltramarines. It doesn't feel over the top and has just the right amount of bling. Maybe IF one is fine too I suppose. They did very good job at making BT champion skin as well, but it's S2 pass.>Least favoriteSalamanders, and that's because it was retarded to make one for sniper despite it having cool features, admittedly. And then they dialed this retardedness up to eleven with their "hee hee well he has a cape so you know, we had to" bullshit. And I'll stand by this opinion.
>>541883501This is 4chan, everything has to be contrarian.
>>541883982>tfw we're getting a BA tactical and a RG assault, instead of BA being assault and RG being sniper
>>541883357I think the heavy pyrecannon is bugged or something it just doesn't work right.
>>541884194Nah, it works. It just has the same stats as a normal flamer, but slightly more direct damage (worst part of the weapon's dps) and TWO TIMES less range when not braced.
>>541884342So the extra big pyreblaster is mostly just a worse regular pyreblaster.
>>541886701heavy stance was unironically a mistake
>2 years since release>people are still looking under the collapsed staircase at the end of infernojfc
>>541888575Thanks, will keep doing it.
>>541888575no stone unturned
>>541888575Horus could be hiding there
>>541888575Could be a warhound titan under there for all you knowI mean, it'd take a tactical genius to make it work but it could be there
>>541888575I smell the blood of the Emperor's enemies under there, brother.
>>541872010I absolutely hate fuckers like you who dick around in melee with your ebin melee spec you saw on reddit while the rest of the team gets pummeled by venom cannons, zoans, and 100 other ranged enemies. Do your fucking job and act like a long range class, moron
>Quick Match>Vortex>Leave squad and requeue>Vortex>Leave squad and requeue>Vortex>Leave squad and requeue>VortexFuck this boss and fuck this event, I'm playing other games until this shitty event is over.>inb4 heh, another shitter filteredThe Vortex Beast isn't difficult, it's a tedious and boring bullet sponge once you learn it's moveset, fuck (You).
>>541886701Yes, it is a shorter range, slower to deploy flamer that has worse ammo economy because it's on heavy instead of tactical. It's still pretty good.>>541886779It would've been fine if the heavy stance flamer had a range of like 40 meters (double the aimed tac flamer range).
>>541886701have you ever tried multimelta?
HAHA Astartes fools! You and your corpse emperor are no match for my brains.BEHOLD MY CREATION!I only have to wait until the Lord of Change prevails.
>>541895819Not eye melting enough, paint the right pauldron Blood Angel red.
>>541878324>Favorite championDark angel, looks the best imo, and feels the most like a champion in terms of aesthetics >favorite chapter armor packRavenguard, beak is peak, and the trimless shoulder looks good with lots of other armor pieces>favorite successors Blood angels so I can get my blood drop decals, nice reds and gold added
>>541895819nice blood raven champion bro
>>541878324I think technically the Dark Angels is the best realized one but Dark Angels are inherently fucking cringe. So I'll go with the Ultramarine as best. Piss poor class choice aside, it's a nice looking skin.But the season 2 BT champion mogs all of them and it's not close. And I don't even like BT.
>>541897119holy reddit
>>541897424I've been here longer than you've been alive.
>>541897528and yet...
>>541897282BTs once more doing space monk knights better than literally every other marine chapter
>>541897119I wonder if they would do a BR champion for the release of DOW 4?
>>541898031If you're a filthy Teuton
>>541898962Let this meme die already, most of the charm of the black templars aesthetics come from black armour and maltese cross, especially from the sword brethren red on black.teutonic knights were land grubbing retards they have nothing to do with a crusading theme
>>541899204>teutonic knights were land grubbing retards they have nothing to do with a crusading themeThey also liked to ride horses across frozen lakes. That was funny.>>541898962It's just a monastic knight order, why you have to be mad?
>>541899204>crusading knightly order coloured in black and whiteDamn, you're right, that doesn't sound like the Teutonic order at all
>>541878324>season 1Dark Angels for sure.Though in retrospect now that champion pieces are freed up, it's Imperial Fists's champion.
>>541895819So this is the infamous result of Cawl's experiments on chimeric gene-seed.
>>541898031>cant paint kneepads>both pauldrons lose half of their cool regalia when not using the standard preset skinas usual saber not caring or just not being able to polish the customization and cosmetics options
>>541902118>both pauldrons lose half of their cool regalia when not using the standard preset skinI wonder why they even did that. Doesn't seem as if it was required.
>>541903340Setting up all that dangling shit, weighting them to the bones of differently built skeletons while trying to maintain the exact same look, or making collision objects and flow physics for the clothes is quite a bit more work than just pasting the non-moving bits and calling it a day.tldr laziness
>>541903806But the skelleton's the same though. It's not as if they bells and whistles are there for the Bulwark either when you use them in free customization.
>>541903806They're all the same there are plenty of cosmetics with dangling bits that can be used by all the classes and all behave the same.
>>541904928>>541905304then it's twice as lazy
Would Warriors with Deathspitter bio-morphs be really any different from Devourers?Can't Raveners have Devourers too?
>its a either parry the carnifex, dodge the lictor or dodge the zoan balls episodei should stop playing this game alone, its just not meant for that.
>>541907243What's the different between a deathspitter and a devourer?
Mark the correct answer:The redacted champion is[] a Grey Knight[] a Death Watch blackshield[] from the Legion of the Damned[] a 30k era dude e.g. a Luna Wolf[] something other than the above, please specify:........................
>>541908469all of the first 4 options you listed are UTTER dogshit
>>541908469Soul Drinker
>>541908469It will be a Sabre self insert.
>>541908853>a Sabre self insert.[heavy breathing]
>>541908469Introducing The Sister of Battle
so, are you guys going to continue playing after the last operation gets added in spring?
also what were "new mission pickups" again?
>>541910692Is patch 15 the final patch?
>>541909269>Fow da Empnya, desu!>>541910692Yeah, although I'm on a video game cleanse right now because nothing is clicking with me at all. I've clearly burned my brain with vidya overload.
>>541911085No, like the initial Y1, they just haven't revealed anything beyond the first half of the year.
>>541908469>a Grey KnightDon't mind if I do. If it gives us a cosmetic terminator armor it would be an even more welcome addition since I won't cope they will add a Librarian class on that occasion.
>>541910692>last operationWe still have 3 more years until SM3, so they'll continue to support this game
>>541908469It's gonna be a teaser for the new oc chapter Titus will be promoted to lead in SM3
>>541908469Whatever GW tells them to release to market whatever product they'll be pushing at the time
>>541913091It's gonna be Blood Ravens>Dark Angels and Ultramarines were first since they're the popular chapters>Wolves came right when they did the refresh of their range with the new stuff including the chapter master and termies and shit>BT releases right in time for the new stuff in Armageddon>Blood Angels champion based on that new captain model that is also fairly recent>Raven Guard champion based on that new chapter master guy they also recently relatively recentlyWhich in turn makes me question...are Iron Hands getting anything? It is notable that they did those model releases for the various named characters of the less important chapters recently which included the new beaky boy, He'stan and the IF termie captain from the 1st company. So maybe it's just based on that.
>>541911803On the off chance they really go with GKs they should give them Aegis Armor. Which they would anyway I suppose, but yeah, having this chapter in SM2 would be very cool. I actually thought during campaign that Saber would drop some easter egg at the banner defense scene with Draigo somewhere in the corner dragging a couple of daemons back through a portal.Though Legion of the Damned would be cool as well, I even thought they'd actually consider them, given those fake leaks with Ferrus Manus returning as their supposed Chapter Master.
>>541913758Makes no sense for Blood Ravens to be redacted. There's nothing secretive or unusual about them and DOW4 is already announced.
>>541875024>28 marines die during the campaign>at least 9 more die in this missionWhat the fuck is Acheran doing? That's like 40% of the second company
>>541914092>>541913758It's redacted because that gives Saber leeway to back out and make something else if the original plan falls through.It's Retributors for an Astartes II crossover, or Blood Ravens for a Dawn of War 4 crossover.
>>541914092Who knows when the plan was made. DoW4 was announced at Gamescon in August but with how this shit works there was likely a fuckton of bad communitation. GW might not have told Saber exactly when DoW4 was getting announced, or there were plans that maybe got changed, pushed back or pulled ahead.Alternatively maybe they're keeping it redacted until some collab or another gets finalized and the details hammered.
>>541914092there's nothing secretive or unusual about a "redacted" champion/chapter pack. it's marketing speak for "is subject to change". when roadmap 1 was first announced only two (three?) initial chapters were explicitly named, the rest were "redacted"
>>541911803>>541908469>grey knightsNot happening. They aren't normal marines and aren't treated as such by GW. They are specifically their own thing.
>>541819413> Shit boss fight> mission can be really long if you get a poor route from RNGThat and their is really little reason for me to keep playing atm im Max prestige on all classes and have every weapon maxed out, aside from dicking around in pvp as Chaos CHADS
>>541914507How would it fall through? You can make a Blood Raven without any kind of collab with Relic. Not to mention how improbable it is that they don't already have a contract in place if it is a collab.>>541914539>DoW4 was announced in August And the picture is more recent.
>>541914612That makes sense when many things are redacted. Not when just one thing is, especially when the other thing in the exact same timeframe isn't.
>>541915121>How would it fall through?Delays to either property you're intending to tie-in with. Games Workshop has been especially hush hush about Astartes II to the point nothing has been shown off beyond the initial teaser. If it gets knocked back to 2027, they would never allow SM2 to reveal anything via a unique Retributors skin.
>>541915121>And the picture is more recent.Yes and it could have>Been made before>Made assuming the DoW announcement was later>Made assuming the season plan was getting revealed earlier than Gamescon
>>541915341you sound like someone who takes melee champion on vanguard.
>>541915732But why wouldn't they amend the picture in any of those cases?
>>541915797Better than being an illogical mental midget like you.
>>541908173Deathspitter has less projectiles than a Devourer but more powerful shots. Lorewise a Devourer shoots worms into you that eats your insides while a Deathspitter projectiles explode on contact.
>>541914680Lorelet here. Why are grey knights not considererd normal marines?
>>541916591Lorewise, getting shot once by a Nid as a regular dude is basically a death sentence right?
>>541916591If that's the case I dunno if deathspitter warriors would even be worth it. I mean it'd just be a slightly different devourer.
>>541917047Because they're someone's OC Chapter. They have the Emperor's gene seed, they're incorruptible, they're so super secret, most people don't know about them. They were founded by Malcador himself, they have the ability to kill basically whoever they want. They're so top secret, when they're made known to Guard regiments, those regiments are then wiped out.
>>541917047They just are, okay?
>>541916121Maybe they will soon. Just saying to not right off Blood Ravens just yet.We'll see regardless. Personally I'd prefer something heresy era.
>>541917462desu I don't think the blood ravens have much of an identity beyond the reddit memesoutside of the le steal reddit memes they're just generic: the chapterthat said yeah I got into 40k with DOW so I'd be okay with them
>>541833308The website's credit page needs spelling correction, brother.
>>541918014>they're just generic: the chapterYou're ignorant.The Blood Ravens have a shit ton of psykers, they've even had Librarians as Chapter Masters, which is practically unheard of, they're of unknown origin and everything hints to them being a loyalist offshoot of the Thousand Sons.
>>541917047In warhammer each model kit you can buy has a designated "army". When you play the game, you have to use soldiers from a single army*. Space marines are one army and use a particular line of models. Gray Knights is another army and uses a completely different set of models. It was only a coincidence that according to fluff GKs were a breed of space marines, a mistake that was not repeated when later GW introduced another "marines, but better" army, reusing the concept of custodes instead.* there are rules for mixing two allied factions like guardsmen and space marines, but in recent editions this is highly discouraged, because GW can hardly balance factions against each other
so not even a single thing that translates to aesthetics as far as this game is concerned>muh traitor-but-loyalist geneseedliterally every second chapter nowadaysonly blood ravens make no fucking sense because of the rubric curse thing
>>541918014I like to think that they all have the same accent as Indrick, but that's probably only because I have not played DoW 2 or 3.
>>541918946meant for >>541918574
>>541918014>desu I don't think the blood ravens have much of an identity beyond the reddit memeswell, you will never experience it yourself, but you can go read the article on 1d4chan and try to imagine what it was like.
>>541919067Spehss Mahrens, todeh the enemeh is at oua doar! We know oua duteh and we will do eet. We fight for our honor as Blud Rehvens, as SPESS MAHRENS, and we fight in the nehme of the Empra!And if we die this deh we die in gloareh, we die heroes' deffs, but we shall not die, no! It is the enemeh who will tehste deff and defeat!As you know moast of oua batul brothars are shtehtioned in SPEHSS, Pruhpeared to deep sthrike! Oua perimeter has been pruhpeared in the even dat oua enehmies should be so bald and so fewlish. We have plehced numerous beacons, allowing for muhltiple, simulntehneous and devashtehting defensive deep strikes. The Codecks asstartees nehmes this maneuvah Steel Rehn. We will descend upon the foe, we will ovawhelm them - we will leave none alive! Meanwhile oua ground fawses will ensue the full defense of oua headkwaters.We are the spehss mahrens! WE ARE THE EMPRA'S FUREH!
>>541917302>They're so top secret, when they're made known to Guard regiments, those regiments are then wiped out.Not so much anymore after the great rift opened. I think after the First War of Armageddon they quit doing it when the Space Wolves about kicked off another civil war. Desperate times.
>>541918014Nah man I disagree, Blood Ravens shockingly have a lot of personality thanks to the games. Amusingly it's literally the only chapter where I know over a dozen characters off the top of my head, whereas I'd struggle to name 2 marines from any other chapter besides the UltramarinesAlso helps how popular they are, going from DoW 4 and how the BR appeared in the 1st Space Marine game, i'll be shocked if Blood Ravens aren't the Redacted Champion
>>541919795>i can name more characters from the stuff i had more exposure toshocker
>>541918321Good catch. Thank you, Brother.
>>541920171I'm sorry anon that Your Guys don't appear in nearly 10 video games Imao, sucks to suck
>>541918946The flesh change and the rubric was just Tzeentch fucking with Magnus and Ahriman. A group of Thousand Sons on the other side of the galaxy, having been effectively exiled from their legion, that Ahriman arguably didn't even know about, are useless to Tzeentch in that moment because extending the rubric to them won't affect Ahriman or Magnus at all.
>>541917124Most small arms will kill a regular unarmored man.A single devourer worm will kill someone, even a single lasgun shot will blast open a chest cavity.
>>541913758the iron hand skin will be for the techmarine and will probably look similiar to iron father feirros.picrel.
>>541922146I know Feirros but there's also that new guy, Caanok Var. He's in termie armor but that isn't necessarily an indicatorWhat I am willing to bet is that the techmarine will be wearing gravis pattern armor.
Did you know the iron handed Primarch of the Iron Hands didn't like his iron hands nor that his Iron Hands started replacing their own hands with iron hands? It's true
>>541923572his name was iron hands man
>>541923572>>541923674Man, he's been dealt a terrible hand.
>>541923572While he was zooming around in the Iron Hand (ship)
>>541923674His name was Ferrus Manus, which means "Iron Hand" in latin.
>>541921470Lasguns aren't consistent. Reading Gaunt's Ghosts, sometimes it'll burn right through and leave a hole, sometimes it'll blow someone in half or explode their skull. I actually got a little annoyed that they'd say one minute Lasgun wounds don't bleed, they cauterize from the heat of the round, but next someone is gushing blood after getting hit by one. I find a lot of times Botlers are also somewhat inconsistent in that sometimes they'll blow someone in half, sometimes they explode a torso so forcefully the bone shards kill or wound surrounding enemies, sometimes they're a lot less damaging.
>>541926246I suppose bolter could have more explanations than just "author didn't know what he was writing about".The bolter round is a rocket-propelled projectile with an explosive warhead, but just like regular warheads, it may overpenetrate or fail to explode once it lodges inside the target.
>>541871780getting instagibbed while leaving an execute is just a kinda universal issue with the game though
wtf i boughted the breast plates with the blue triangles and one is ONLY available on heavy and they other is only for non phobos non gravis?
If I don't kill any vortex beasts I will still be able to claim the reward, right?
>>541930274You need a PROS account linked to your Steam account.
im half in my first absolute decap solo runhave you guys done a solo run?
>>541930264Yes.Also, who the fuck is responsible for incorrectly naming armor pieces? "MK VI Corvus" my ass, it's just MK X with Raven Guard iconography.
>>541930537im afraid guys
>>541930537From the thumbnail I thought that was a Land Speeder.
>>541930807>omni-scrambler>look inside>comms device, servo skull, multi-spectrum array, and more>all labeled omni-scramblers
wish me luck guys
>>541932707nevermind i died T .T
>>541932945
>>541932707>dying on the easiest partyou'll get em next time
i hate these stupid fucking normie executions man, just let me kill them and get the armor
>>541932707rip. soloing the boss can be hard if your doing it on the harder difficulties.
>>541938298>What is armor on gunstrike passive
>>541918014>desu I don't think the blood ravens have much of an identity beyond the reddit memesThe reason people like Bloods is because they have characters, lore and are wildly different from other chapters.
>>541913758>Which in turn makes me question...are Iron Hands getting anything?Yeah, a Chapter pack (but no champion skin for techmarine) with 4 successors (their decals etc). Hilarious, considering even Salamanders get 1 more successor chapter. Looks like Ferrus' boys are getting the short end of the stick again.Also, it's such a bullshit that Saber in their infinite self-righteousness made the decision to drip feed gear pieces here and there whenever they feel like it. What they should've been doing is giving us at least one piece per week to unlock via blue doritos. That, at the very least, would've been a more sensible way to keep people occupied. But what am I saying, trying to find reason in how they manage the game is beyond mere mortals' capabilities.
>>541944378What? Chapter pack = champion + cosmeticAlso, I meant that since the IH aregetting stuff soon if maybe there are plans on GW's side.
>>541944895>Chapter pack = champion + cosmeticAh, slipped my mind. Thanks for reminding me. It gets confusing sometimes or maybe I just need to hit the bed.Anyway, there's a bit of news with regards to the battle barge expansion. Looks like it's going to be something (or exactly) like pic related. It's been greenlit by the team a few hours ago.
>>541944378>But what am I saying, trying to find reason in how they manage the game is beyond mere mortals' capabilities.They probably didn't expect SM2 to do as well as it did, and failed to have any real plan for post release support. The same issue happened with Darktide but in reverse, the game was so dogshit, their live service plans got blown up and has thrown the entire project into disarray. The only recent live service game that got it right was Helldivers. And they did it by having two teams, one who does the major updates and another that purely does Warbonds which adds in new weapons/stratagems originally every 30 days and now every 40-50 days. But they also didn't over-complicate their game, meaning they can update it consistently and easily. SM2 still can't be balanced because its a clusterfuck of game ideas slapped together. To make things worse the game director for Saber is an egotistical retard who thinks his vision = the only vision. You can tell because every other community update he pushes his bullshit agenda into an otherwise good community update with excuses and lies on how and why the game has to be like this. I call it the curse of success where a product does well so people in charge assume they know best.Reality is SM2 sold because the art team is godlike and pulled together a great story around TItus combined with good models and animations that got people hyped. The programmers/game director is a fucking retard. What sort of moron in 2025 puts in non-linear HP and contested HP? Retards that's who.
What are your hopes for the customization overhaul?
>>541947717>colorable sniper capes>segmented backpack patterns (particularly that top panel)>tacticus chest pieces for phobos marines>gravis chest pieces that don't look like a fucking graveyard pillaging werewolf who is chaining himself away for the full moon, and feature the lowered cowl more often>the option to make decimus white
>>541944378>Red TalonsFuck yes.
>>541919795We have one dedicated shitter here that goes absolutely assblastingly angry over the Blood Ravens and hates them over the jokes that came out of the games and thinks that's all they're known for. About a month ago he argued against the entire thread for like a day over them.
How does he fair during the Tyranid and Chaos invasion? Is he an asset to the Chapter?
>>541950490who
>>541950580John Trepang.
>>541947717Proper tabards for tactical (so like what bulwark has)A couple more crux terminatus options besides the shoulder.Shoulder clothes or halfcapes for bulwark and tacticalAnd the biggest ask, going back and adding a bit more to the old DLC. Couple of grenades and belts and stuff to the Raven Guard chest piece. A power axe skin for the Space Wolves.
>>541951238>A couple more crux terminatus options besides the shoulder.Some chapter neutral ones would be fucking great.
>>541951238We deserve a Crimson Fist themed power fist.
>>541947717female space marines
>>541947717add the firstborn deathwatch set and the ability to use firstborn torsos; looks way better than primaris. if they actually had chaos sets to pve that will be fulfilled.
>>5419477170 limits on any classes, fucking duh
>>5419477171. Access to a color wheel. Fucking Space Marine 1 has this you greedy jews.2. Full choice for all classes, including the ability to switch out armor classes entirely. Phobos looks like shit fuck you Saber no one uses this stuff in the table top EVER.
>>541951914>We deserve a Crimson Fist themed power fist.Cant you just color it red already
>>541952094>female space marinesIs like rocking up to a Taylor Swift convert and a guy is singing her songs.
>>541944378>>541948950>No Steel ConfessorsI somewhat regret discovering this chapter.Irrelevant successor to an irrelevant legion-turned-chapter (doomed to eternal irrelevancy).I'd honestly be happy with even just a chapter badge.Guess I'll have to make do with copious amounts of headcanon to cope.
Couldn't figure out what the hell the point of the heavy pyre was given tact has infinite ammo with no effort and can actually move. But the heavy stance is giant. Longer than the melta by miles.
>>541952712>Irrelevant Legion>Irrelevant ChapterFuck you.
>>541954370Fair.I am a fan of both, but I've run out of hope a long time ago.At least IH are getting some attention in the upcoming chapter pack and I think some upcoming books I heard about.
>>541954562Sons of Medusa are more relevant than they are.
>>541955474
i hate how sniper is just a melta bomb bitch
>doing the Reliquary mission>the guy that's set as the damage sponge keeps pointing out medkits to others and takes the gene seedAm I dealing with retards I wonder.
>>541955754Everyone is a Melta bomb bitch now, even the Assault. Seen Assaults die faster because they took the equipment perk over the contested health one.
The datamines did show off a Gravcannon right? I'm not insane?
for me it's the Raptors and then the Minotaurs
>>541959184How are the Iron Snakes so low when they have an actual fucking book? The reason I don't give a fuck about 99.99999% of successors is because there's nothing but a lore blurb about them. I need to actually read how they do things and get a personal look into them, not just a brief overview.
>>541959184>picked a chapter just for appearance>edited it further to clean it up>an already obscure chapter no one knows, rendered unrecognizable even further>it's not even on the list
>>541960550I don't know the methodology because its made by some redditor based on multiple factors but subreddit activity plays a role. it's not perfect but probably pretty accurate
this is so fucking gay holy shit
>>541963206Yeah, that looks like shit. I'll attempt it real quick.
>>541959184Considering that not being one of the first founding is generally a filter against wider popularity it's impressive how ridiculously popular black templars are.
>try some absolute Decapitation with Assault since it's been a while>get a Tact with Tyranic War drip>Perfect fucking coordination, I could tell he was about to auspex before he even did it and timed my ground pounds perfectly>entire dozens of warrior nids dead in a single blow>Carnifex dead in minutes even with a double zoan spawn>Tyrant didn't even last 2 minutesAnd the Bulwark was pretty good too, he was clearly grinding prestige, but still did well even at level 1.
>>541963206Joined a game. One guy had already gone down. Immedeiatly see 2 Sorcerers on the way down. One guy dies, the other goes down. Then it's me, the Sorcerers, an Enlightened, and multiple Rubricae. I die in about 30 seconds.
What would be the heraldry and color scheme of the>Jade Falcons>Smoke Jaguars>Diamond Sharks (maybe they're just more shiny Carchs)>Steel Vipers>Star Adders>Cloud Cobras>Ghost Bears>Snow Ravens>Goliath Scorpions>Woof (okay maybe not)All sound like perfectly reasonable chapter names to me that sometimes describes their preferred method of operation.
The beginning of Fall of Atreus can be such a pain in the ass when a ranged Terminator spawns across the chasm and there's basically no cover to use while you try to approach it.
which way Astartes?
>>541966626They all fucking suck.
>>541966626there's a build to be had out of the power gladius with sniper, but it means not having a melta in your pocket every 30 seconds all so that you can do a dodge -> autocloak -> shadow stabeverything else not purchased there is worthless
>>541966626Pistol
helloi hate vanguardthank you for your attention
>>541966954why? vanguard is probably my favorite class
>>541967095he does no damage
saw a fan art of a raven guard holding a decapitet ork head and it just made me chuckle to think for a moment that for all the various xenos in the wh40k it's still the simple human which is the biggest menace in the universe
>>541967650shoot your gun
>>541967650I run the melta and chainsword, feels okay to me
How much blue currency can you stock up on?
>>5419689841000
>>541969296
>>541969173Can confirm. I tried going over 1,000 and it just throws your new accolades into the void.Thank god I experimented with a normal daily. You literally just lose the accolades for that mission and can't earn them anymore.
how many of you have all the operation completed in absolute?
>>541969173That's fucking insane considering you can got 2-3 months without stuff added only to have about 4 new pieces added every update.
>>541972167designed so that even the lowliest shitter will have enough scrapped together for a buy
>>541972167Lots of games do it. If they didn't cap the player retention currency then you'd just show up, buy everything, and go back to not playing the game.
>>541853386Was created by an advanced human civilization if i remember correctly. If not, she comes from the same place as humans. It's just not very clear they aren't really treated any different they are just the same with bunny ears.
>>541969173Feels to good to hit the cap last night. I already bought everything on the accolades store and when the new heroics drop I have three new weapons ready to go. Hopefully they're not bad weapons...
>>541947717At this point? For it to even fucking exist
>>541966954>>541967095They are all fucking niggers who zip in and steal your execution and now you lost half hp through recoverable contested health
>>541976379>all fucking niggers who zip in and steal your executionyes that would be me
god vortex beast is so fucking terrible to fighti don't give a fuck how easy hive tyrant is to duel he's actually fun to do so with
>>541974904>a bolt sniper that returns the bullet when you get a headshotEffectively lets sniper generate bullets when using the other rounds return perk with the gun itself. Maybe kind of cool, but carbine is still going to have it beat.>a thunder hammer, but it generates a shock grenade area wherever you charge slam itFor bulwarks who care about that 25% damage boost, but only after the first hit...>a power fist that generates a gun strike marker on a random enemy after you get a kill with itThis is for "nonfinisher gun strikes restore 1 armor segment" abuse, almost certainly, which is dumb because that's in the same column as charged attack damage for assault, which you'd want seeing as you have a fucking power fist. Also it won't be a block power fist, so who the fuck cares what it does.>a heavy bolter that parries slightly easier and instantly cools itself when you parry with itDoesn't it already cool itself when you're busy parrying and gun striking instead of shooting it? What downsides will the gun have to justify this bonus effect? Dumb.>a heavy bolt pistol that instantly silences alert callersQuite possibly the worst thing they could've come up with. Explosive rounds? 6 round extreme hand cannon variant? No, fuck you.>an instigator carbine that, instead of firing a 3 round burst, fires a FIVE round burstSomeone is going to have to make a youtube video showing why this makes it a DPS increase despite how much more often it will make you reload. Also 24 is not divisible by 5.It's bleak.
>>541947717I just want fuckin capes on every class and to be able to wear tacticus on the phobos classes, the pauldrons at the absolute least. Basically just do away with their class silhouette rule entirely.Being able to use the chaos skins like the champion skins piece by piece across every class in pve would be kino. I can suspend my autism enough to tolerate doing missions for ultramarines while ultramarine lines spill out of my CSM.My most pipe dream hope is that they'll add terminator armor, at least as a skin, if not a whole class.
>finish leveling heavy pyre>prepare to farm out last 2 prestige ranks>realize i have no idea how to even build heavysomeone give me a decent auto plasma and heavy perk setup
>>541977074The thing that'll make or break the 5 round instigator is how well it sets up the grapple execution. If it does that better than the current options, DPS will be irrelevant.HBP is at least a pretty interesting utility ability. If chaos spawn stay as hard to interrupt as they are now, I could see people using it.
>>541977074That's an instigator pistol bro. That probably means it sits alongside the current heroic 3-burst pistol.
so the only 2 non-weapon cosmetics from siege are the pauldron from normal and helmet from hard right? or did they add more/make the helmet easier to gett. hasnt played siege til today
>Reach final wave on Hard siege >leave the challenge didn't complete
>>541979730>how well it sets up the grapple executionI guess using execution vanguard while playing solo with the new customizable bots could be cool, but I can't be fucking bothered using that shit with actual players there to steal my executions.The thing I'm wondering is why sniper's 2 rounds of bonus cloak perk doesn't extend his bonus cloaked damage so he can actually get value out of it with these rapid fire weapons he has for some fucking reason.>interruptdoesn't matter on absolute, you interrupt the call and then a wave just starts anywaywhat stats will you give up just to have the utility of sometimes buying 30 seconds of breathing room?>>541980171no it's the instigator carbine, you'll have to ask saber why its referred to as a pistol in their own code
>>541977074>Also it won't be a block power fistSo? Balanced fist hits the same breakpoints>What downsides will the gun have to justify this bonus effect?not being accuracy variance probably
>>541980695What could've been cool instead is if the HBP inflicted melta-tier stagger. It could have much lower ammo to compensate, but making it a single-target, long range inferno pistol would be nice.
Hey, uh, there was a guy, I don't know him, but he was asking how to play as Chaos in multiplayer. Can you even do that? Just out of morbid curiosity, you know?
>>541947717At the bare minimum:- let us slect a base item and then its small decorative elements individually i.e. you select the body armor then pick the aquila or imperialis, neck guard, belt badge, ropes, purity seals etc. the way you want- add capes and iron halos to tacticus armor- make items for the same armor pattern available to all claseses with that pattern: e.g. tactical gets assault's shoulders and vice versa- make campaign exclusive gear available e.g. Victrix shield and armguard, Gadriel's hanging belts and backpack cap etc.- parity between primary and tertiary colors
>level 19 tac with 15% ranged damage and HBR goes down constantly in the hard strat>lose to last elevator neurothrope, he leaves, rerun it with same assault and new bulwark>ez pz, they go down some but still win solidly excluding small scare at the end where they both went down at once while a warrior was still up
>>541982521>hard strat>level 19These subhumans deserve cancer and all the ailments in the world
>>541982635He ended with like 4k total damage despite us getting all the way to the very last terminus spawnHonestly the damage on rolling wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be. I can see how it'd be way, way worse if you're in a bad spot but its not an overall malus its just a "make a bad situation even worse" malus.
Playstation and xbox players are so terrible but if I turn off crossplay, I won't find any games.
>>541984519Same problem I realized. The average console user is a fucking retard. Even if they aren't completely brain dead, they're still a level below the average pc player. It's like trying to get a dog to do what you want.
im getting so fucking tired of these crashesbout to just fucking quit for good
>>5419170471) Emeperos gene-seed2) All are high-level psykers (massive power spike)3) Literally incorruptable. (it would mess up some missions. Like a GK would serve as that chalice relic.)
>>541951208never heard of him
>>541963697Black Templars are the true 30k IF successors. I am more surprised that IFs are popular at all, with no good books and content to their names. Meanwhile BTs are an actual army on tt, just like DAs, BAs and SWs.>>541959184While we're on topic- Space Sharks are THE sloptuber chapter, since it's only popular thanks to sloptubers and their fans, and none of them even read the chapter's books, opting to parrot retarded takes that have no connection with the actual lore.
>>541989226Emprah's gene sneed yet they get mogged by Custodians and gets nullified by blanks.
This auto lock on is fucking ridiculous. Saber must think it's players are neanderthals.
>>541991184>GK vs custodiansI hate how GW is setting up the lore for 'The End Times 2: Electric Boogaloo' with Imperial factions starting to fight each other over emperors corpse resulting in Warhammer 50,000: Age of Starchild
>>541991587You can turn it off though. Unless you mean to say the soft melee targeting is bad.
>>541991587>consolelol
>>541991935>soft melee targetingyeah that
>>541952712the admech is their waiting for you anon
>>541989226>Big E gene sneed>job to furries
>>541959184> Iron Chads are more popular than white scarsSUCK IT SPEED BOIS, NOW YOU ARE THE MOST IRRELEVANT FOUNDING CHAPTER
>>541977074I'm interested in the BSR and Instigator. The rest sounds pretty underwhelming. That Power Fist can be cool but then again, if you're not blockfisting you're not fisting at all.
>>541993119White scars are more memorable though. Everyone easily remembers the one chapter using white that has all the go fast memes, but the less popular of the two chapters that are painted black with some white details and that likes to use cybernetics a bit more than most space marines is definitely the first to slip one's mind.
>>541897424Shut up you fucking miserable tryhard poser nigger.
>>541992951but muh spess mahreens...
>>541977074>muh block>Power FistFound the idiot
>>541982521>2 manning hard weekly>have fusil sniperbot that's carrying us>some faggot vanguard joins>dies>immediately leaves while downed>leaves us with an oculus vanguard botthanks
Looks like people still don't understand that you can just runaway from extremis enemies.
Today's hard decapitation. I think this is the highest amount of extremis I ever killed in a single operation. Teammates were a level ELEVEN tactical, and god knows how many randoms the third slot cycled through.
>>542003736>7JUST
>>542003736good job anon i salute you o7
>>542003890he just got 200 good boy points so i guess slow and steady wins the race
>>542003736scary helmet
>>541917047grey knights were the first space marines but more space marine-y donut steel gary stue bullshit chapter GW came up with/before custodes became playable
>>541959184>Mentors>30It's over, freshmaker bros.
>>541959184did not expect the silver skulls this far up. whats the deal with the howling griffons? their colours are complete ass so i imagine their lore is interesting.
>>542007109most redditors probably know them from the joke in the trazyn book
>drop melta bomb>teammate with flamethrower doesn't pay attention>starts shooting into crowd>detonates melta and downs himselfEvery fucking time.
>>542009429It's okay, Vulkan lives and he'll save me.
haha, time for spess mehreens
>>541959184Posting the objectively correct order of the factions I've taken a look at so far.
>>542014273i like the game and i dont know ANYTHING about w40k, but the wolf guys are cringy as fuck
>>542014273what is this based on? what is the criteria for being a high tier chapter?
>>541959184Just a reminder that is is information compiled on how active these chapters are on Reddit
>>542014627Being based and cool.
>>542014808Nta, but I gotta sayit probably isn't the best indicator of popularity in 40k community. Though it's as good as it gets when it comes to any accurate data collection on the Internet.
>>542015234It can't possibly be considering 2 years ago the list looked completely different. And the creators rationale was>used the 400 responses to the post I made yesterday, each chapters subreddit sizes, total number of painted ebay listings, total number of mentions on google and about 200 peoples responses form various forums on the internet of people talking about their favourite chaptersAka, he looked at subreddit size and a sample size of like maybe 2000 other posts
Which version of purple best fits a pre-heresy Emperor's Children color scheme?
>>541990239I think it’s split between the Black Templars and Crimson Fists.
>>541989226Except for that time where they needed extra protection, and murdered a bunch of Sisters of Battle so they could cover their armor with their blood.
>>542016467Phoenician Purple, which is why it’s named after Fulgrim’s old title, The Phoenician.
>>541994843holy skill issue
>How it feels to Power Fist
>>542017242oh so that's what that anon meant
>>542014808>plebbit loves the Reasonable Marines for their realistic depiction (whatever the fuck they think that is because they don't know shit about infantry tactics, conventional or otherwise)>nevermind the fact that a seven foot gene enhanced super soldier wrapped in a few inches of tank armor made of future space materials and a primary weapon that is a full auto mini rpg-7 on giga steroids throws almost everything we understand about warfare out of the window simply by greatly exceeding what a single human soldier is capable ofthe raptors, doctrinally, are just a different flavor of less self destructively autistic iron warriors but reddit will never admit that
>>541994621no I don't think I will you smoothbrained redditfuck
and with that done my last weapon to grind to relic is the... sigh... bolt sniper rifle.
Is anyone even bothering with this week's strategem?
>>542023210Yeah, it was quite easy.
>>542023210It was piss easy. Beat it on the first try.
oh boy, the new absolute sure is intense.
So missing xenophase, gladius and chanswordXenophase is the best one of the 3 right?
>>542025231I don't particularly like the speed of the swings for the Xenophase Blade because you NEED to get a regular attack out before you can Rake.I always preferred power whirling anyway.
>>542025049i have all missions in absolute, bulwark with invigorating icon is just a mini gamei just did operation 10 with 2 console fags prestige 2
>>542023210I did it on hard with a single slav first try>other slav is a bulwark and goes down immediately in the first minute, then rage quits>slav that stayed says "one dumb bastion and the whole thing goes to hell" in slav monkey scribbles that I had to translate afterwards>just kept going as heavy and tactical and breezed through the whole thing
>>542026168lol now i realize
>>542023210yeah was easy
>>542026168>teams up with two console players>tries to communicate via text chatmost tech-savvy bulwark player
>>542023210just don't be a rollslop faggotrolling only takes half an armour tabthat modifier only truly fucks you over if you lose all armour and have contested hp
>>542026578the ps guy was apologizing on his mic cus he never did this operation beforewas a returning player
>>541982003Play the helbrute mode.Otherwise roll the dice on the other modes. You might need to keep joining different lobbies, so try different modes so it doesn't keep putting you in the same lobby.It won't switch your team between matches, so once you know you're on the chaos team, you know it'll keep putting you on the chaos team.This is a double edged sword though, cause the game likes to stack scrubs on one team and vets on the other team so every match is a one sided shit show in most lobbies. So good luck finding a lobby that happens to be balanced or one where you land on the guaranteed winning team AND land on gayoss.
>>542026791that mod fucks you over if the game decides to spawn 15 ranged nid warriors + neurothrope + 2 batches of zoans in that small room just before the elevator to the tyrant.
Honestly, the pvp was ok when most people in it were scrubs just fucking around. You could get good early and carry entire matches.Now most people in it are hardcore and will guaranteed rape your ass into the ground if your team isn't up to snuff.You think playing with shitty randoms in operations is bad? Try relying on 3 more than usual to help you fight 6 other players that stick together like glue, turtle around their spawn, and watch the few flank routes there are like hawks.
>>542027108Console players can't see PC text chat, Anon.
>>542029316Snipers invisibility is bullshit. You're either too op against scrubs and shitters, or you basically don't have an ability cause vets will actually look for and notice your invisibility's subtle wobbling and shoot you through it like you're not invisible.If you're not using invisibility, you're basically just stuck sniping, where you also have to heavily rely on enemy players being dumb. So the whole class is basically a noob trap in pvp at this point.The entire heavy class is bullshit in pvp. It might as well just be mandatory for two players on each team to pick him. The shield makes him unbeatable in dps races which a lot of encounters boil down to.Assault's ground pounds are bullshit on console where you cant possibly aim fast and accurate enough to hit him properly while he's doing that shit. You're basically guaranteed to die if you turn a corner and run into an assault where there's high ceilings.Bulwark's shield is just annoying to play around. Idk why people even bother with the class where you're basically just walking cover for your team.Tactical and vanguard are ok. Extra grenade on tactical's slightly busted. And it sucks how long it takes to unlock the 3 round burst rifle on vanguard.Most of these issues could be completely resolved if they'd let us host searchable lobbies with all the settings private lobbies get.Idk why they even bothered with private lobbies. I can barely scrape two friends together to play the pve most of the time. All those settings for tweaking damage numbers, setting different time limits, being able to pick our own teams and pick maps, all go to waste if you dont know like at least three other hardcore sm2 players you can 2v2 with. Fucking retarded.
>>541963206that's hilariousthe dailies are completely random, right?
>>542029405Which is fucking dumb.I can get it being too slow to type mid-mission. Can't stop to type with a gamepad cause swarms are on timers. But we should be able to text chat on the barge at least.>"Can you pick x class?">"Can you equip x team perk?"At least let us see pc texts.Warframe let console niggers text chat over a fucking decade ago ffs, and DE are even more retarded devs than Saber. It's already developed on the pc side, idk why they didn't just let consoles have it too.
>>542029405oh thats lame
>>542030428All agreed except>DE are even more retarded devs than Saber.Only devs more retarded than Saber are Fatshark and Arrowhead.
>>542030561>mfw the 4 games I play these days are Darktide, HD2, SM2 and TWW3
>cant ever decide on a chapter>decide to look at Carcharaodons despite initial impressions>They're actually pretty cool>Have literally 0 information on how to paint theme besides their base color schemefucks SAKE and I just know the cosmetic pack is going to be 20 random ass tribal tattoo-tier shoulder pad markings since thats all saber have to go off of
hey so mi last class to level is tac, i hate it, whats the tier list for his weapons?
>>542031423>Darktide, Helldivers 2What's up with swedes making a good core game and then seemingly wanting to ruin it with further additions?Same shit is happening with The Finals too (Embark, another swedish dev).I've heard claims of indian long-term support teams but that sounds too improbable and stupid to happen 3 times.
>>542030561Saber doesn't waste astronomical resources on content islands with shittier gameplay and questlines that make you play as shitty preset characters instead of your custom dudes though.And as bad and shallow as sm2's combat is, it's far less janky and far more balanced than the giga clusterfuck that is WF's at this point. Every enemy is an actual enemy you can parry and shit instead of just a musou trash mob that jogs around and shoots lemons at you while you teleport behind them and open portals to the sun at them.They're clearly better both at designing a game and supporting it.
>>541959184Executioners need to be added. They are more popular than a bunch of chapters that are already in the game.
>>542031448Stalker Bolt RiflePlasma IncineratorPyreblaster
>>542031448Stalker for TyranidsPlasma for ChaosGrenade Launcher if you're a scrub
>>542031448>S: plasmaI still have no idea why. It feels so unimpactful compared to plasma pistol, and there isn't one perk in the entire fucking tree that boosts its damage. I'd rather just use hbr
what is charging time on the pyrocannon/blaster? just the startup?
>Game puts you in same lobby over and over againI'D LIKE TO PLAY WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T DIE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MISSION THANK YOU
>>542033284>I'D LIKE TO PLAY WITH PEOPLE WHO DON'T DIE AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE MISSIONThen turn off your game.
>>542033284ded gaem
>>542032076Doesn't the first perk from the second line boost all plasma weapons?The first line one also gives a 10% damage boost to your primary.
>>542031435We'll probably get a breastplate with a gorget lined with shark teeth for sure.We'll definitely get pauldrons with shark related shit hanging off of them at least.Maybe we'll get a molecular bonding stud helmet with a proper MK7 grill with the carcharodons symbol on the forehead, along with a clean version. Maybe we'll get molecular bonding stud grieves too, since carcharodons are known for using older MKs of power armor.
>>542031951I need marines malevolent added. I just need their chapter symbol, since none of the other ones look close enough.But they'll probably never add them unless they do a dlc about chapters with no founding.
>>542032076>"dude plasma feels bad">uses hbrWhat causes this?
New Battle-barge is here Brothers!>>542036581>>542036581>>542036581
