#6609 - Sneedlefiber's Comeuppance EditionPrevious: >>541573516>SimulatorsAutomated:●EDOPro (PC/Android): https://projectignis.github.io/download.html●Master Duel (Multi-plat): https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850Manual:●Duelingbook (online): https://www.duelingbook.comTag: “/dng/” Password: “vidya”; on EDOPro, specify server.Genesys Duels: MR5, TCG, Custom Rules: No Links/Pend/EMZ/Pend Zones>LinksRulebook: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/Wiki: https://yugipedia.comProbability Calculator: https://yugioh.fyiStock Market: https://yugiohprices.comDatabase: https://www.db.yugioh-card.comMisc Info: https://www.formatlibrary.comBlog:https://yugiohblog.konami.com/Alt Format:https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/>BanlistsTCG: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_2025-09-15/ (Sep 15/Next List: TBA)OCG: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2341 (Oct 1/Next List: Jan 1)>DecklistsOCG: https://roadoftheking.com https://tonamel.com/competitions?game=yugioh_ocgTCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/category/decks/tournament-meta-decks>NewsJP: https://yugioh-starlight.comEN: https://ygorganization.com>Upcoming SetsOCG:●Burst Protocol (Oct 25)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 25)●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)●DUELIST BOX -Prismatic Summon- (Dec 20)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Charmer (Jan 24)●Blazing Dominion (Jan 24)TCG:●THE CHRONICLES DECK - The Fallen and The Virtuous (Oct 24)●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 7)●Phantom Revenge (Dec 4)●Burst Protocol (Jan 23)●THE CHRONICLES DECK - Spirit Charmers (Jan 23)>Events●/dng/ Friday Night Tourney 4 (TBA)●/dng/ League S1 (Week 5, Sep 29-Oct 6):https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1
>SIARSoundwave is always right
>>541615836Just because Mulr is a dragon doesn't mean it makes Seals. Come back after BUPR and then dragons will floodgate people.
>>541616392With this victory, Sneed will never get out
the format its cooked and if the banlist dont hit even more stuff people are just going to stick with Genesys only
>afro latino wins another YCS eventI'm tired boss
>>541614990I'll also pitch in my go second list. This is with Night Sword but you can totally shave it or put it in the side. If you wanna cut it to 40 then take out/move to the side either ultimate slayer or final harbinger. You can also opt to shave engine (the lamias and Aramasa) but I brick from seeing no engine enough already. Also play cosmic instead of twin in the side because the amount of incidental backrow protection I run into makes me sick.
>>541616551>dragons will floodgate peoplelmao how? dragonlink is dogshit
our hero, gone but not forgotten
>Level 1 cancer deckIt's like we never left Snake-Eyes
*DING* *DING*proud of my kids
>>541616939JOBtail
>>541617075But you said it was a broken deck just 2 days ago?
First Genesys invitational 45 players single elim
>>541616460Having common sense =/= being 100% correct, Half of the shit is halt truth because in spite of the fact YGO is a dogshitass game nobody normal should play, this game is fun once it clicks like crack.
dracoshitail lmao
>>541617647I consider you /dng/'s grandfather though? Even though you're half my age
>>541617592not many known decks yet, probably have more info tomorrow
>>541617738>you're half my ageNigga are you 60
>>541617592>all those byeslmfao nice event
Hey...with Konami's Time Travel format...it says that you have to use current rules and only the field layout and maybe draw for turn change...So are Pends just completely locked out of ED summoning in the MR3 era formats because there's no EMZ or Links? And how fucked does MR4 become with Synchros, Fusion, and XYZ all becoming completely unlocked rather than chained to Links?
Powerful...
>>541617809UNKNOWNGODS WON!
>>541617824A bit above that
>>541617842Those guys had invites but probably didn't check-in and decided to go home before traffic gets bad instead of staying all night to play in the tourny.
>top 8 interactive>semisinteractive >finalabsolute dogshit Lol? This YCS ending was an absolute let down
Every single True Draco/Draco 2 lore archetype has won a YCS, so all we need is the four Dracoslayer decks in Majespecter, Igknight, Dinomist and Amorphages to win a YCS and the entire Draco lore will have won a YCS
>>541618256Maybe you can try to do better next time, I didn't see you at the top tables.
>>541618292those dogshit decks are never winning anything
>>541615838
https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&id=2350
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Didn't these guys got their direct support last set? For fucks' sake
BUYWE ARE GOING TO SHILL THIS SHIT UNTIL END OF EARTH
>>541618750bully him back yummybros
>>541618787Ripper Millennia If summoned by a K9 quickplay/trap can target 2 cards from opponent’s field/banish, return them to deckPiercing damageIf your opponent activates a monster effect detach 2, negate it, then destroy all cards on the field
>>541618787Here is your Izuna furry
K9-EX Ripper/MillenniaWIND Rank 9 Beast Xyz Effect Monster3100 ATK / 2600 DEF2 Level 9 monstersYou can only use the (1)st and (3)rd effect from this card's name once per turn.(1) If this card is Special Summoned by the effect of a "K9" Spell/Trap: You can target up to 2 of your opponent's cards in the GY or banishment; shuffle them into the Deck.(2) If this card attacks a Defense Position monster, it inflicts piercing battle damage to your opponent. (3) When your opponent activates a monster effect (Quick Effect): You can detach 2 materials from this card; negate that effect, then destroy all cards on the field.
Yummers
>>541619081>detach 2, negate it, then destroy all cards on the fieldThey are not even pretend this shit was not shilled into high hell
>JUSH gets 3 new cards while CRBR only gets 2 eachwew ladTrap>during each standby phase, you can gain 100 LP and your opponent loses 100 LP>during either MP or opp's BP can send two yummy cards on field including itself to bounce a card from the opponent's field or GY>can banish itself to send a Yummy card from DeckRipper/Ex>on special summon by a K9 S/T spins up to 2 cards from opp's GY or banish>piercing>when your opponent activates a monster effect can detach 2 to negate and pop the whole fieldDracotail>1 Dracotail and 1 monster in hand>can target 2 Dracotails in GY and 1 card on field with the same card type to shuffle all 3 into the deck>the fusion reborn effect
>kills everyone regardless of allianceswomen, amirite
>>541618787Banned
>>541618986Dragontail + hand monsterTarget 2 dragontail in gy and 1 card on field of the same type, return all 3 to deckThe shared revival effect the fusions haveI don’t get what this one is for even
Yummy AssistContinuous TrapYou can only use one of this card's name 2nd and 3rd effect's once per turn, and only once per turn.1. Once per turn during either player's Standby Phase, you can activate this effect; gain 100 LP, then your opponent pays 100 LP.2. During either player's Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase you can activate this effect by sending 2 face-up "Yummy" cards on your field including this card to the GY; return 1 card from either player's GY or face to the hand.3. You can activate this effect by banishing this card from your GY; send 1 "Yummy" card other than "Yummy Assist" from your deck to your GY.
>>541618750Diaper cat diaper cat diaper cat diaper cat
>>541618750>the tri-clops Cupsy alts aren't real, its just a mask Cupsy wearslame
Assist Yummy!Continuous Trap CardYou can only use either the (2) or (3) effect of cards with this card's name per turn, and only once that turn.(1) Once per turn, during the Standby Phase: You can gain 100 LP, and if you do, your opponent loses 100 LP.(2) During the Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase: You can send 2 "Yummy" cards you control to the GY, including this card; return 1 card on the field or either GY to the hand.(3) You can banish this card from your GY; send 1 "Yummy" card from your Deck to the GY, except "Assist Yummy!".
>>541619178>negate then nuke the field
>>541619178Auto banned in genesys.
>>541618750>yammi wave 3oh....
>doesn’t show Izuna’s furry titscowards
>>541619178Yeah, this is going to be a 100 pointer in genesys.
>>541618986>>541619269>dracotail gets even more shit support>>541619362>more broken shit with yummyWhy does konami love yummy but hate dracotail so much?
>>541618787Did Ripper's boobs explode or are they buried beneath a big puffy chest tuft of fur?
>8 more fusions in burst protocol
Dracotail ShaurasDragon/Fusion/Effect1 "Dracotail" Monster + 1 Monster from your handYou can only use each effect of this card's name once per turn.(1) You can target 2 "Dracotail" cards in your GY and 1 faceup card on the field who shares the same card type as either of the cards in your GY(Monster/Spell/Trap): return all 3 cards into the Deck.(2) If two or more Monsters are sent to the GY at the same time while this card is in your GY: you can Special Summon this card, but banish it when it leaves the field.
>>541619584Definitely an anime fusion deck
wait the negate and blow up effect is generic right? Solid tool for any future and existing rank 9 strats
Here’s your VW support bro
>>541619178this is actually worse than it appearsyou actually do want to have stuff on board most of the times
>K9 and Yummy get good shit and Dracotail gets inexplicable garbage that's only conceivable as just a guy you can make that recurs or something againStarting to think KoJ might not like Dracotail very much
>>541619584Isn't the Branded anime getting more tie in cards?That would explain it
>>541619178Trash>>541619362Amazing
>bpro was going to flop super hard so they went all in on jush wave 3kek
we've stopped asking, you WILL buy k9 and yummy
>>541619178>negate that effect, then destroy all cards on the field.Is konami trying to tell us something by making furry women equipped with fucking nukes?
>>541619584Hopefully we get more Branded fusions, they need that the most.>>541619613Dracotail needs at least 3 more waves of support just to catch up to Yummy at this point.
>>541619732No, the October episode is Kitt-focused so the chronicles support will be Springans
I hate overshilling so fucking much
>>541619725Only Yummy got good shit, K9 got garbage just like Dragontail.
>>541619178so who did ripper sex with to create this abominacion?
Sickest design and then it's unfathomable dogshit, why couldn't the Fusion be quick or something?
>>541619809NoJUHU need to fuck off from this game
literally me frfr
Genesys won't save Yugioh. It's still a turn 3 game at most. Going 1st is still too broken and hasn't been fixed. The actual design of the game is too far gone.
>>541619874no oneAll K9 can do thisSee Lupis
>>541619758Just yummy, all formats killed k9.
>>541619613the first effect not being a quick kind of kills this card
>>541619942We should start lynching KoJ
>>541619613The markings on the claws and how they look in general remind me of nu-Skarner and his Cosmic skin
>dracofail
>>541619584Might be some more Artmage/Medius stuff in there too.
Where is my Nepthys support though?
>>541620125Inferior ritual deckMitsurugi is the new hotness right now
>>541619543Le meme archetype
K9 and Yummy get nice shit and then Dracotail gets the third "uh i dunno, for the grind game i guess?" card in a row
>>541619543They really, really want the normalfag female audience.
>>541619178>shuffle 2 from gy into deck, okay>piercing yeah that's fine>ALSO MONSTER NEGATE AND NUKE LMAOwat>>541619362the active effects are dogshit but the banish effect is pretty good>>541619613this is okay
ACAB
>>541620125>all delay 2 turns effects activateJust reboot them like Vampire at this point.
>>541620334>this is okay>not quick effectit isn’t
the enternal JUHU format...
>>541620434i didn't notice that, i thought it was on summonit's bad but it's still not THAT badyou have like 4 fusion summons and all are hopt so even having a new name with that mid as fuck effect is good for the deck
maybe dracotail its godlike on OCG and yummy/k9 only work here?
>>541620125How many DBP decks are forgotten by Konami?
>>541619362>2 and 3 hard hard once per turnbroooo
>>541619178is no one gonna mention that this is literally nude ripper
NeosCHADS
>>541620842Imagine the sex
>>541620842No titsNot interested
>>541620842Already did, i am still asking where did her tits go
>>541620892Flopgotten
>>541621006probably can't see them from that anglealso, she got buff and tits are 0 muscle so they'll look smaller comparatively to the rest of her body
so we are on a pseud set rotation right? like this shit is not even funny
this yummy card sucks, what are you on about
>KoJ is telling you to use K9's original rank-up gimmickWell, anons?
>slot 32 borrel ff>slot 33 ddd>slot 36 darklord eveningstar>slot 37 dracotail>slot 43 k9 xyz>slot 47 borrelshroud dragonso 2 more fusions, 5 more synchros (maybe) and 3 more xyz?
>>541616939I mean they could just have easily made it 5/8 mitsurugi(4 yummy) and 1 normal yummy. Now it looks like Mitsu is t0 and the data would be identical.
>>541621539Remember when I said Mitsu was the best deck of the format and /dng/ said I was wrong? I remember
>dood gets cracked yammi support>bpro gets this dogshitlmao
>>541621656there was a bad yummy card in dood
>>541619362So can you do the same thing with suprise where you send 2 and then chain snatchy to synchro with the target so only opponent gets bounced?
see what i mean?>decent support IGNORE IGNORE >busted suppot BUY BUY BUY You tryhard trannies are the reason why yugioh is beyond fucked
>>541621840>he doesn't have a playset of all 11,000+ cardsngmi
did yummy really need a quick bounce?
>>541621769sending is cost
>>541619362(2) During the Main Phase or your opponent's Battle Phase: You can send 2 "Yummy" cards you control to the GY, including this card; return 1 card on the field or either GY to the hand.>Can target anything in either grave>Including roach>Including roachYummy stealing Dracotail wincon in OCG I cant even.
>>541620334also i just noticed that it says during THE main phase not during YOUR main phaseit's not in fact dogshitlmao@dracotail
>>541622094God damn they really didn't want to give yummy anything good for their last wave huh.K9 would have been good if it didnt nuke your entire board.Dtail looks mid on first glance but I can see a third fusion that recycles going first and boardbreaks going second being deceptively powerfulDraco>>K9>>>>>>Yummy
>send as costso what funny yummy shit can you do with this?
Retarded questionIf i activate fuwa and draw a dominus impulse off it, can i activate it from the hand that same turn?Does the impulse restriction only applies after it resolves, or is it like say lava golem where you cant summon it after you’ve already normal summoned that turn?
>>541622383It can recycle roach / handtrap in your GY. That matters the most.
>>541622574impulse does not care if you activated before, it only restricts you from activating laterso yes you can use impulse after using fuwa
>in the end, ripper just kills everyonefucking women
>>541622574It only applies after, speedreading anon>you cannot activate the effects of LIGHT, EARTH, and WIND monsters for the rest of this Duel. >for the rest of this Duel.
>3 more Xyz in BPROSo one for Doom-Z, one for possibly Springans dunno about the last one
>>541622979Exosister
WaitSomeone tell me the negate nuke of Ripper is mandatory effectIs it true
>>541623058correct
>>541623058No?If you choose to negate, it also nukes the field.
>>541622628yeah if this sees play its only going to be used for degenerate shit like looping maxx c or floodgates.Imagine being maliss and then having yummy loop lancea every single turn by having marshmao recycle back the trap which then puts lancea in hand over and over, or recycling one turn stun cards like feather storm or dimensional barrier.
Please fucking kill Lunalight in Genesys Konami. Raidraptor probably also needs it. Extremely consistent towers decks don't need to be the best decks in the new format, but currently they are.
>>541622383The Dracotail one is bad not because it's a bad effect but because grind and board breaking slop isn't what the deck needed, it does all of that incredibly well already. It doesn't actually improve the ceiling of the deck nor does it let it do anything it can't already do.It's like if instead of Girsu, Orcust got a card called Pingirsu that has the exact same text as Ding. You're not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth but it's also not improving your ceiling much at all.
>>541623601Qingirsu and Mingirsu where he inexplicably becomes Chinese
>>541623530>Raidraptor>the deck that autolose if Raider's Knight gets Imperm'd/Veiler'd/Impulse'd/Ghost Ogre/Mourner or if Brave Strix/Tribute Lanius gets Ash'd/Imperm'd/Purge'd/Ghost Ogre
>Main deck DrollNO fear of other JUHUs
>>541618750>they used the fucking diaper MarshmaoBros do they know?
>>541623881>NOOOOOOOO I WANT BEST DECK EVEN MORE BROKEN
>Mjolnir>Feather Storm>Dimensional Barrier>Ouroboros>Protos>Fossil DynaWe are going to have to ban so many cards man
>>541619178>>541618787it is a full moon today aswell so it fits
>>541624030>Raidraptor>bestget your eyes checkeda well-timed D.D.Crow on their RUM activation to banish one of their Xyz in GY will also kill them btw
>>541620334>the active effects are dogshit >Recycle Maxx C>Prevent Maxx C from getting banishedThey didn't have to steal Dracotail's schtick like this
flop9floppatail
>>541624064All of these were candidates on the most recent banlist and they did nothing but ban Pairadice. The game might just be fucked.
>>541624689none of those are ban worthy
I'm gonna King of the Feral Chimpout dawg
>dracotail is an ignition effectlmaoooooolmaaaaooooo
>>541624940K9 Orcust Mitsurugi
>>541619178>destroy all cards on the field.Does k9 even have a way to prevent its own board from being destroyed? The other rank9 seems better atm
Why are people pretending the K9 Rank 9 is bad because it nukes the whole boardAre we going to pretend like VSK9 didn't run the VS trap now?
>>541625669They just really don't want K9 to get even stronger so they are praying the new xyz isn't good (it is).
Was trying to remember if VS had some shitty trap I forgot about before Dust Devil so I looked it up and remembered why I didn't remember this card or one of the shittiest Counter Traps ever
>>541623957>15 non-engine is fine since you get a free 3 from your deckI'm getting real tired of turn 0
>>541624940Finally a rank 9 with more than 3k attack
if ouroboros is allowed free then free my nigger gumblardragon
One of the funniest things you can do is be an Impulse deck vs a K9 deck because you can hilariously cuck them out of their Mjolnir effect from locking you
I see we're also maxing out on minigame spells like the OCG...
>>541626087...
Less than 50 slots now.
>>541626483>everything from 20 to 27 is archetypal supportDamn
Jokingly
>>541625669If you're nuking your whole board your archetype better be one of the ones that can instantly rebuild it.
>>541623881Haven't played much Genesys, have you?
>>541626716Pretty sure like every variation of K9 has some sort of recursion ability
>>541626716bro they can do that on your turn
>>541626175To be fair can you really blame him for forgetting the existence of Infinitrash
>>541619751This stuff is all produced and done several months in advance.
>>541621840No, putting out unplayable cards is an insult to the consumer.
why is konami self sabotaging bpro?
Zoo creature.
Can't help but feel like printing Spell Speed 1 removal tricks as part of the initial waves of support for a new deck is a pretty good sign Konami hates a deck
Leave Burst Protocol to me.
>>541619895
>everyone and their mothers are on mitsu right nowKing of feral imps died for nothing
>>541619671what existing rank 9 strats can effectively make use of this assuming they need one or two yet nonexistent cards to tie it all together
>>541627368It was such a nothing hit when both prayers and habakiri are at 3.
>>541627368They should hit Mitsurugi and unban Feral Imps
>>541627346Can Magnet Warriors break Bastion's curse?
so who is millenia?
>>541619613Time to fix this shit card...>Dracotail Shauras>Dragon/Fusion/Effect>1 "Dracotail" Monster + 1 Monster from your hand>(1) Quick Effect: You can target up to 2 "Dracotail" cards in your GY/Banishment and 1 faceup card on the field who shares the same card type as either of the cards in your GY(Monster/Spell/Trap): return all 3 cards into the Deck.>(2) If a Monster is sent to the GY while this card is in your GY: you can Special Summon this card.
>>541619613>1 "Dracotail" Monster + 1 Monster from your handI hate how hard "Fusion" Monsters' identity has been raped.
>>541627480Leave the new broken Rank 9 deck to me.
1 dracotail monster + 1 monsterfuck you buy dracofail NOW
Dracotail LOSTYummy WONK9 WON
>>541619613>the shuffle isn't a QuickMy sleepy ass thought that I read the card wrong the first time, but no this is SHIT.
>>541626483some PATTERNS>anime support slots can be synchro or xyz, can't be link/fusion at all, also a LOT of slots for them, between archfiend and rokket there should be 3 sets of cards (anime #2, anime #3 and lore), likely one of the anime support sets is MD monster muscle>lore deck can be fusion/synchro/xyz, since doomz was xyz and artmage fusion it's likely it'll be synchro, which means it's very likely that at least 1 of the anime slots will be an xyz deck>however, the 2 slots for fusion between d/d and darklord seem to be guaranteed lore as well, or at least something else coming in with lore/anime stuff, i am going off the idea that previous set cover support (ie d/d) comes after the 2 anime decks support in set order so they can't be fusion, could be a brand new full game-original deck like regenesis as well (banking on this)
Is Phantom Revengers going to rotate the format again?
>>541628282as from OCG result ... no
>>541618787this card is ugly
I'm a K9 main
>>541603036ReasoningGate is also limited in Edison.
>here's the latest support for a deck we've already nuked, broThanks Konami.
One line of text KILLS Dracotail
>>541627687Dyson Sphere but it is a towers only affected by rank 8 or higher monster effects
>>541619362>return 1 card on the field or either GY to the hand>banish effectI'm definitely not going to complain about this but does this also does this mean there's a good chance we get a Yummy Way for Marshmao this pack?
>>541628971>noooo, you can't make the card target itself because... you just can't ok?
so yummy can recycle herald now I guess?
>>541629180>Create problem>Immediately solve problemClassic OCG pandering to bad players
>number of players is decreasing>QUICK, MAKE BANNER CONTAIN STAPLEEL OH EL
>Check top 8 decks>No Veilers at all>No Imperms at all
>>541629439It’s amazing to see how much they absolutely squandered MD in just a few years.
>>541629616Everything cheats and activates in hand/gy nowadays.And the cards that don't can just tag out
so why can yummy recycle everything?
Is DoomZ viable?
>>541630064It's just insect support
>>541629439>Doesn't have the Dominus cards>regular art Ash and not the alt art to entice people to pull. >Garbage picks like Ghost Reaper, and Spooky Dogwood.Truly a baffling choice.
>>541630064No, you're going to have to wait for more support
>>541618059Why did you start playing Yugioh?
>>541618787>>541619178>no titsRUINED
>>541618750>>541619362Yummy is Yugioh's Yukkuri abuse!https://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/posts?tags=yukkuri_on_yukkuri_violencehttps://yukkuri.shiteitte.net/posts?tags=cannibalism
>>541630954>Make a redundant and not useful card>Make it Lv6 so dragonfags can cope and make Atumlol
>>541628971Speed Duel?
>>541629131That's just the old MST ruling.
>>541629439they did this after i already crafted 3 triple tactics talents, ash and imperm...you guys think it's still good value? i refuse to play maxx c, maybe fuwalos is good to have
>yugioh x football>not yugioh x BLUELOCKtepid
>>541630918>/dng/ can't handle a level 4I'm disappointed.
>>541631064>already proven to not be thisBro the only Yukkiri abuse in Yugioh is the existence of Pends
>>541632348>most yugioh players are disgusted at furriespretty based ngl
>>541631858Delta is unironically better than Imperm if that game is also going into Mitsu hell. Half of the things there shouldn't even be URs anymore.
>>541632318I would rather collab with a normal football than with that homosexual fujo supernatural fake football series
>>541633584>I would homosexual fujo no need to say it more
>>541633670ListenI know footballers might be gay but at least their football is real unlike whatever nonsense Blue Lock pretends to be football
>>541633584At least those stinky fujos did not bully me in high school, unlike the faggots from sport clubs...
genesissy lost its over lmao
>>541633584half baked
>>541634049Well yeah, I can't be bothered to make a full baked post to describe how dogshit Blue Lock is
>>541634091Trif sells Yugioh merch, spreadsheets, and coaching, plus he has a sponsor.
>>541634091>>541634559>Pendtroons talking about their tranny agani
What happened to Trif yesterday?Heard he lost immediately after getting on stream
>>541634861He took the fall so all of us could be spared from Protos Ouroboros...
So this is just a bunch of fags trying to shit up the thread by talking about a random celeb right?
Poke.
>>541634559>coachingfucking kek
Why don't Triff start only fansMost of the players are gay anyway
>Don't mix breakers and handtraps>All the decks are on 12 hand traps 4 breakersTrif.........
>>541634798>>541635164kill yourselves then have sex
>>541634861if people know you, your deck, and its silver bullet(s), it's pretty difficult to make top 8 out of 1000 players, let alone 1st place
And people were so excited when JUHU format came around. No more Maliss or Ryzeal finally back and forth ygo with no floodgates and much interactions. Once again the playerbase is completely delusional but will clap anyway when Konami shat out a banlist and killed a deck everyone liked for no reason.
>>541635281what's funny?coaching is what got hungrybox to the top, and his coach wasn't even anywhere near a better player than him
>>541635350To me it looks like Trif has actually loss muscle.Feel like his biceps were bigger earlier in the year / later last year.Besides he has a girlfriend, potentially future wife.
>>541635675>for no reasonit won world's and on top of that neither individual archetype was the golden child chosen one
Think Yummy Redemption is playable now? There's a reliable way to get it into GY other than add it off Cupsy discard it off Cupsyway. Every normal in the deck leads to full combo so having another brick to toss off Cupsyway turn 1 doesn't seem that bad if you draw it
>>541632348It'd be fine if it just had huge tits too.
>>541632412Nah, Yummys are still pretty abusable.
>>541634339Which card is this?
Yummy diapers
>>541632318blue lock is like someone decided kuroko no basuke didn't get edgy enough
>>541636891R63 Riumheart
this is the real edopro discord right? it's safe if i get the android apk from there?https://discord.gg/ygopro-percy
>Konami promoting archetypes from Justice Hunters after hitting themNew Killer Tune when?The performance of this deck was such a let down, many youtubers were convinced that this deck would do well after the Cue reveal, then it just fumbled. What is it missing?
>>541637279Did link in OP die or something?
>>541637279Dunno. I just got mine from https://projectignis.github.io/download.html
>>541637329It's the blueprint for synchro tuners. You just have so few targets right now. Wait for 2 years until there are more.
>>541637329we were already talking here around press release about how the deck doesn't even really do anythingits gimmick isn't gameplay
>>541637364i'm scared of 4chan op's, what if a baker changes the link without anyone noticing, and then it just stays like that for months
>>541637654I (>>541637368) just found the link from google, btw. I didn't even notice it was already in the OP.
Bruh this format is assIt's just ftk, turnskips and floodgates.Yummy is the only novel deck but it makes an unbreakable board and does full combo with any of its normal summons. The banlist did nothing and now we're stuck with this shit for another 4 months.
>>541636816>non-canon YummyUnironically the diaperfags have a better claim to the fucking deck than Yukkuri
>>541637745>The banlist killed the one deck playing ygoIronic.
>>541637329We should be getting the free agents for the Phantom Revengers decks this set, so look forward to that at least.
>>541637745Agree.Free Tears btw.
>>541637797>the diaperfags have a better claim to the fucking deckWhy did they use the fucking diaper Marshmao?
>>541637745Just try out playing Genesys.
>>541638071Genesys is not much better if you see the decks people bring here.
I feel pretty decently about this. I hope Demise comes to 3 next list so it actually feels very playable, other than that I think I need Iron Thunder in it to not actually die but I don't think it's gonna be a bad deck rn per se.
>>541637797>non canon yummyYou can eat the cat thing
>>541638283You gotta play Aphosis man. That card is crazy good.
>JUHU support>While all of these are terribleWe’re gonna join Soulburning Volcano as the worst set in history!
>>541638298The cat isnt made of sweets mate. Its a cat dressing up in a costume that looks like Sweets. Snatchy is also a cat.
>>541638248Most decks /dng/ use for Genesys are a lot more gimmicky and way less meta than what I've seen on DuelingBook ranked Genesys, though.
>>541638321I... Legit forgot about it, even though I put it in my staple binder to remember to put it in.
>>541638298You can eat anything if youre willing to put in the effort. That doesnt make it Yukkuri or Yukkuri abuse nigga.
>>541638349>costume that looks like SweetsAren't the costumes made of actual sweets, and that's why Snatchy is harvesting them?
>>541638392I would think that the quality of matches are more important than whether the decks are on a tier list. Just look what won these last 2. Blackwings that end on towers plus burn and monarch handloop plus extra deck lock. Is that indicitative of a fun format? I would think not.
>>541638470Snatchy is just a bully. He does it for the fun of it.
>60 card pile is cheaper than 40 cards with some Impulses in itGreat game
>>541638724supply and demandtrif took advantage of cards with no preexisting hype behind them and thus no price-gouging
>>541638580Most of /dng/ are casual players who enjoy dueling with petdecks in the lower tables. Whatever few decks top tournaments really aren't indicative of what most players here like to use.
>>541638724>>541638794>theyre talking about their tranny again
>>541638331You act like these aren't also gonna get busted support from main sets.
>>541638817>Most of /dng/ are casual players who enjoy dueling with petdecks in the lower tables.No one here goes to YCS or any official tournament lmao
>>541638580>Is that indicitative of a fun format? I would think not.There is no fun Yugioh format. Nugioh is all about popping and negating and floodgating. Cards that don't do that but are still interesting and powerful are few and far between. Even still, the game has reached a state where you can't win without actively constraining your opponent's options.This has even seeped into Edison Format.
>>541638817You still have to play against those rotten apples and them winning the consistently isn't sending the wholesome lower power petdeck format.
>>541638962Yes, players here host on EDOPro.
>>541639001>lower tables>t-they host on EDOMan must be some non-existent tables there
>>541638974That's gonna eventually be balanced out by Genesys' more frequent monthly banlists. The point of the format is that whatever's the most oppressive and meta are gonna keep getting hit.
>>541639049I meant the lower tables on /dng/ tourneys.Aside from that, players here occasionally host Genesys rooms from time to time outside tournaments.
>>541639190>I meant the lower tables on /dng/ tourneys
>>541639112>Trust KoA, two more weeks!No I shan't. Genesys will only become the lower power format if everyone treats it as such and shows up with wholesome petdecks. Nothing will kill interest faster than sweats showing up with unfun garbage.
genesys is already dead ):
>>541639314Dude, have you not been following the conversation?
>>541639338They've already shown they're more willing to apply quick emergency banlists to Genesys format, so there's a good chance of those coming more frequently depending on how the meta's going.
>>541638972There's a finite amount of fun to be had in a given Yugioh game and your goal should be to not allow your opponent to have any of it. Preventing them from playing is the most efficient way to do so.
THE FACE OF YUMMY
Ban ProtosBan MjolnirBan Fossil Dyna
The U.A field
>>541640463*sensible chuckle*
>>541640725What's the click animation?
>>541640849Are they selling these?
It's pretty funny Artifacts are basically unsalvageable as a deck but it has like 2 fucking floodgates to basically FTK your opponentIt's kinda like Amorphages as the target you vomit out of Spheres vs Amorphages as a deck
>>541640882They are prizes at YCS Anaheim via the prize wall
>>541640849These are great for retro format play. I take back everything bad I said about Genesys.
What’s this month’s jump promo again?
>>541641135Magnet Warrior Omega Minus, I think
>We somehow deader than DigimonOwari Da...
It's just dead hours.
>>541626483How many stores is this set going to close?
>9 players with 1k+ rating on DuelingBook ranked Genesys now>top rated 1.4k+ rating Genesys player almost has the same rating as the top rated Advanced playerThe format is growing now.
>MTG just banned someone for not supporting troonslmao
>>541640491cutie pie :)
>>541642197i don't understand what you are saying, what do these ratings mean
Funny how they slapped the materials restriction on the search effect so it doesn't just get used as a generic Rank 4 equip spell RotA.
>>541638972>This has even seeped into Edison Format.Goat CHADs keep on winning
>>541642572Ranked.
>>541638972>trap cards exist in yugioh since day 1>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST STOP MY PLAYS!
>>541642648don't look at what TER does
If the first Genesyssie YCS in 2026 (dumb decision btw to make your players wait 1 whole year) doesn't break 2500+ players it will be a complete failure of a format
>>541642938Why?The most recent YCs had like 1500 players
>>541643108Lille had 2200
>>541642787At least back then, getting stopped for one turn doesn't just result in you getting OTK'd next turn, and your opponent actually had to expend cards instead of having that kind of effect on a huge body that does it for free every turn.
I kinda like the idea of this deck. Seems like an okay going second deck with some serious going first potential if forced to.
>>541643108Most EU and NA YCS events break that number pretty easilyAnaheim (Yesteerday) always gets between 1400-1700 players so even that event was consistent with its own numbers
>>541642803Gets outed really easily?
>>541643159not the most recent, retard.
>>541641932They got an anime and a game, we ..
Genesyssies... it's over already?
The fact that konami didn't even mention the location of the 2026 Genesys YCS should tell you everything In the past we have had announcements of YCS cities 7-12 months in advanceThey are probably still looking for a location and they havent finalized all the details yet which means Q1 and Q2 of 2026 are pretty much imposisble So yeah Konami pretty much went like "here have a new format, we'll make you wait a whole year to play it lmao"Always one step forward and 2 steps back
Found more comments on a Japanese website from a page about Genesys format.https://yu-gi-oh.xyz/etc/%E3%80%90%E9%81%8A%E6%88%AF%E7%8E%8Bgenesys%E5%A7%8B%E5%8B%95%E3%80%91%E6%B5%B7%E5%A4%96%E3%81%A7%E5%B0%8E%E5%85%A5%E3%81%95%E3%82%8C%E3%82%8B%E6%96%B0%E3%83%95%E3%82%A9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%83/
there are no arguments against pends and links
>>541643858>The Pendulum is a mistake that was born from trying to correct a mistake, and Link is the mistake. It's right to erase both of them.what did he mean by this
Pendulum is only tolerable if you play on emulator.dealing with pends ruling on paper is a massive pain
>>541643236What about the shitter YCs that Trif won?
>>541644045>Pendulum is a mistake, and Link is the mistake that was born from trying to correct a mistake. It's right to erase both of them.the MTL fucked up
>>541644162Spic/thirdworlder YCS don't count
>>541643948They're hideous.
>>541644090You mean Yugioh in general.
Left or right, dng?
>>541644178As always pendulum haters are retarded
>>541644090>dealing with pends ruling on paper is a massive painWhat the fuck are you talking about? It's literally just "If on field, go to face-up ED when it goes to GY"Nothing beyond that is any more complicated than any other mechanic
>>541644474Why not call the right one "Diabeelzestar"
>>541644474Rape both of them.
>>541644448Yugioh post PSCT is very straightfoward. Most confusing ruling are from old cards never seen a light of reprint.Except damage step / battle damage. They can die in a fire.
Complaining about Pends and Links is no different than yugiboomers complaining about Synchros and Xyz's. We need a new summoning mechanic, some of you are getting too uppity.
>>541644685It's not even just a rulings thing. Even just the regular gameplay is an asspain to keep track of in general on paper.
>>541644746NoLink definitely a mistaket. boomer
>>541644746I bet most people wouldnt mind Links if they had absurd costs while keeping Pends banned. Links are generic enough to bring back the majority of decks dead under Gensys while no one would really miss Pends.
>>541644746This.The people who don't like the new mechanic can just play Genesys whereas the REAL Yugioh players will play with Scrunkly Summoning
>>541644746Having too many summoning mechanics is what made them stop making Master Rules anime in the first place and do a reset with Rush Duels.
>>541644818Rude
>>541644878You know im not wrong about what I said regarding how most players would take that change
>>541644818This.Having linking be so generic is one of the worst things about the mechanic.
>>541644839Wrong. All that bloat is the reason why they stopped making more summoning mechanics and also the reason why the anime died.
>>541644858>Having too many summoning mechanics is what made them stop making Master Rules anime in the first place The amount of summoning mechanics has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's the general pace of the game itself.Konami could churn out 50 mechanics, but if the game was still at the pace of Synchro/Xyz era then it would still be doable for anime.The issue always was the fact that every deck needs to be consistent as shit to compete, which anime decks would need to begin doing to appeal to people who play the game and a consistent as fuck anime deck makes it hard to write duels for. Remember in VRAINS when Blue Angel had an FTK on nearly every duel she was in because of the sheer consistency of Trickstar? The writers couldn't make her win everything so they had to make her play like a comatose vegetable
They should just make Link>Link Material is either not treated as send to GY/cannot active effect when used as Material, or shuffle them back to deck>Link effect are negate if they are not co-link
Pure Vison Heroes
>>541644923It really is just because of MR4. Links should be more archetypal now since there's no need for them to be generic anymore.
>>541644746Komoney should remove every summoning mechanic except links, and replace removed non-link monsters with link variants.
>>541645006Making all these extra rules means nothing when Konami designs cards>Link Material is either not treated as send to GY/cannot active effect when used as Material, or shuffle them back to deckSuddenly every material focused on being used for Link Summon are all "If this card is in the GY (Quick Effect):">Link effect are negate if they are not co-linkNow Links spam even harder and are more resilient because you need to make more Links. We'd be seeing Cyberse double e-teles and ED cheating and shit because of this rule.It's the same shit as people saying to restrain effects so you can only use X amount per turn as though Konami wouldn't immediately begin printing cards like>If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can add 1 "Archetype" card from your Deck to your hand, then you can Special Summon 1 "Archetype" monster from your Deck, then you can send 1 "Archetype" card from your Deck to the GY, then immediately after this effect resolves, you can Normal Summon 1 "Archetype" monster from your hand, and if you do, destroy all monsters your opponent controls, and if you do that, this card gains the following effect>- Once per turn, if your opponent activates a card or effect (Quick Effect): You can negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it.
So we all agree KoJ is THE cancer that plague this game, right?
>>541645251Rescue Rabbit is such a bizarre card for a football collab. Why not U.A. Midfielder or something more related?
Links allow for more freedom when designing cards.>Xyz deck? All monster must be the same level or modulate levels>Synchro deck? Needs healthy balance of tuners and non-tuners of specific levels>Fusion/Rituals? Need designated spell/traps in order to function. Meanwhile Links can be any level, tuner or non-tuners and don't require any additional spells.
>>541645326It is 100% KoJ.
>>541645228Exactly. Link itself is still somehow a boogeyman when different card types can rape the meta depending on what Konami wants push.
>>541645326KoA isn't much better. Their opinions, choices and design is so fucking out of touch its unreal
>>541645228IshizuTears being the most broken deck ever should clue people in on what Konami decides to be broken.
>>541645339Because cute mascot.
>>541644631ImpossibleRight would magic rape you and left would just physically out rape you
>>541619613This is okay as a way to reshuffle your trap card in case your opponent dodges or pops themIt really should've been an on summon effect, Dracotail is already the worst one of the 3 archetypes
>>541644474I wanna kiss both!
>>541645326Wrong. It's KoA>>541645369>>541645412Stop samefagging.
>>541645412Pretty sure KoA has stopped designing cards since Vrains.
it's simplewe buy konami
>>541645365And thats exactly why Links are the least balanced ones out of all the Extra Deck cards
>>541645365THAT'S A BAD THING, YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT.Restrictive summoning conditions help keep decks more balanced and stop every deck from being able to just spam the same generic bullshit.
>>541644995Putting trickstar in the anime was a error to begin, lets put a otk burn deck in the fucking 4000lp anime lmao
>>541645819links could have restrictionsblame konami for not adding restrictionsmetalfoes electrumite is totally generic, and searches a generic pend, literally slapping METALFOES on any of that would have stopped it from being pend god-tier
>>541645339Cause it's more well known card among players retard. Do you even get basic marketing?
>>541645680Then just rape them back.
>>541645890If the "people know it" factor was important, why not something more recognizable like Dark Magician or Kuriboh or something?
>>541645478>Konami>decidingThey don't think about how they design their cards, and completely missed how those two archetypes could just be mashed together.
>>541645818This.
We fusion summon without spells, Synchro without tuners, cheat out Xyz's etc. Summon mechanics increasingly will just be an aesthetic choice based on what color border would look the coolest. Yugioh is and will continue to be a "but Mom said" card game, that's literally the appeal.
>>541645949Rescue Rabbit is the default mascot for Master Duel.
>>541646092>We fusion summon without spellsThat has existed since XYZ
>>541646092>the appeal*the thing that ruined it
>>541646092Fusion is the most egregious summoning mechanic because everything about it has been twisted and fucked with over the years to the point where nothing really is sacred.You have Fusions using no monsters as material, you have Fusions that don't need effects to actually Fusion Summon them, you can use materials from fucking anywhere, cards don't need listed materials. You have Fusions that don't Fusion Summon but use Fusion Materials. Materials can be sent, Tributed, banished, shuffled etc.The only thing left about Fusion is that at least a single card somewhere gets "used" and the frame is purple, that's about it.
>>541646331
>>541644995I wonder if they've ever at least thought about a bigger compromise. Like the anime versions of cards being outright dumber and simpler versions of what will be printed (like the basic concept is similar but with power stripped out), so that duels can hover at 5D's or Arc-V levels for the sake of screentime practicality. Maybe it wouldn't feel so different from how during the GX years Glads or Monarchs were doing a ton more than Judai going minus 4 for Neos
>>541646683A lot of anime cards usually have completely different effects from their real life counterparts.
>>541646683>Like the anime versions of cards being outright dumber and simpler versions of what will be printed They already do that, anime cards are usually buffed with stronger or more effects when they get printed.
>>541646683Isn't that the case for several cards already? The biggest one is that only Numbers monsters can affect each other while ignoring others.
>>541646763A lot, but not everything. At this point every single one would have to be different with wider gaps in that difference
>>541646887
>>541644746i'm a new'ish fag (used to play psp games and picked up master duel on release)but weren't link monsters their attempt at fixing the game and slowing everything down?then OG players complained that their decks couldn't spam anymore and konami had to an emergency rule change about the extra monster zone?if it's actually true then it's ironic that yugiboomers complain about links spamming special summons when they were intended to do the opposite at first
>>541647114
>>541647184Links were never supposed to do that.
>>541647184the "slow the game down" cope was what konami dickriders used when it outright killed every deck besides fucking zoodiacs of all things
>>541645819>Restrictive summoning conditions help keep decks more balanced and stop every deck from being able to just spam the same generic bullshit.Cool now when is Konami going to increase new card releases to make sure a vast majority of decks have EDs to work with without missing out? It's almost as if the OP generic mindset was set in stone since DM to absolve the need to shit out constant cards just to keep as much intact.
>>541647184>weren't link monsters their attempt at fixing the game and slowing everything down?Nope. There was already special summon extra deck spam within the first 10 episodes of Vrains.Links were just another method of set rotation meant to make players buy their new Link cards and stop playing with their old cards.
Fusions were good in forbidden memories
>>541647323And then their terrible autism continued to let Firewall run around even after they finished making money off of that set
5 more months of this
>>541647232>>541647258>>541647323oh okay, i was wrong then
Rush duel won
>>541647590It's a fair question considering how often people (incorrectly) parrot that it was meant to slow the game down.Release Links were the closest this game ever got to actual, true set rotation.
Literally every format except Advanced won
Yuma's sister.
>>541647728I'd say speed duel players lost and Edison trannies lost the hardest
>>541647713Xyz era was close to that with cards having a condition that they can't be used as materials for any synchro summon.
>>541647519>refuse to update lists to curb power>insist on making genesys, a format that requires even more managingwhat did koa mean by this
how to actually get boomers into genesys:>DM and Bewd genesys structuresYou want boomers make boomer product it's that simple.and if it actually fixes DM the format would be a success. shouldn't be too hard DM has good cards they just don't have the glue that ties them all in a one card combo.
>>541638895kewl tune are unsalvageable
>>541648116That they still haven't finished making money off the old sets.
>>541644474bothlook at thewm tiddiesbrbrbrbrbbrr
>>541621639nobody thinks its the best deck which is why its performing extremely well. if everyones maindeck was filled with ash/belle/bystials/droll/crow with a sided barrier let alone gnomes, the deck would never see a won match again. Mitsurugi is the antimeta deck used to deal with yummy because a chainblocked raigeki and being able to dodge targeting effects shits on them
>>541648167And make them cheap.
>>541648386good i don't like their art and they have too much text. glad i won't be seeing them much.
>>541645326yep>made tearlament>made ishizu>made kashtira>made ryzeal
>>541648167Have you seen who actually plays these tournaments? All players look 30+ if anything the older millenials are defo playing this game and so are a good chunk of the boomersWhat this game needs is new players
>>541648573>made yugioh
>Jap pissed and shit their pants against RishidAPOLOGIZEhttps://bbs.animanch.com/board/5704658/
>>541648606Could've gotten that with Rush Duels, but it's too late for that now.
>>541648707Rush is not even yugioh
>>541648618That's Kaz (RIP), not KoJ
>>541648606>What this game needs is new playerscompletely unattainable goal.they tried and failed multiple times.it's easier and costs very little to make boomers dry (they never go dry)
>>541648732Rush is more new player-friendly and fixed and simplified a lot of things.
>>541648167instead of this KoA omega killed bewd lol.>kills link 1ok i can still make something wor->slaps 33 cost on their best spellunplayable.how do you make a boomer format where bewd is unplayable are you out of your mind lol.
>>541648784Who?
>>541648786with multiple tier 0 back-to-back shilled DBP while refuse to give anime deck a good support, they are literally drive boomers awaysThat's why this game need more Anime panderBut no, let cut all anime box down and instead focus on shilling LOOOOOOOREshit/DBPshit
kamal won his 6th ring but no one cares about him, lol
>>541648885>>541648885Rush was never gonna fix anything if it meant stores had to make space for "more yugioh" even if they brought it to the westRush came out at the absolute worst time and the fact that it killed the main anime only made actual yugioh fans bitter toward it
>Doomfags continue to doomfag advanced instead of singing praises of GenesysThis is why you never listen to doomfags TewartPair o Dice was a good start but killing interactive decks while not hitting the floodgate alternatives was pure retardation on their part
>>541648606yugioh is too intimidating for new players, it takes a lot of patience
>>541649052he's just some black
>>541649068it never killed it a new proper yugioh anime was never in the works.it was either rush or nothing at all, mainline yugioh was already dead. you wanna blame something blame vrains and arc-V.
The Digimon TCG is dead as fuck but at least Bandai is still pouring money into it and into the IP itselfWhen was the last time yugioh was part of the modern cultural zeitgeist among zoomers?Look at /v/, everyone there is playing the new Digimon Story game and /a/ has a bran new weekly anime to look forward toWhat does yugioh oh have? A 5 minute anime where they regurgitate the same tired loreslop and it's not even on streaming services?
>>541648968Bringing in boomers was an excuse for Konami's higher ups so that it got the green lightTewart just wanted his pet banlist that a very small subset of people are going to bother to play
>>541649185i'm not sure what a digimon jrpg has to do with a card game
>>541649035If it makes you feel better Phantom Revengers blows ass and even the World Premiere Pack is better>>541649052Oh yeah uh good for him I guess
>>541648968>noooo you don't understand I NEED WishesYou don't. The deck existed for almost three decades without it>but the deck is weaker without Wishes!That's the point. Congrats on understanding the format. See you in next week's tournament.
>>541649185/v/ used to have Master Duel threads until one faggot forced them to go here while ignoring the other generals on /v/
Zoomers and gen alpha aren't going to pick up physical cards games, digital maybe - which is why that space is so competitive. You can judge for yourself if MD is doing a good job as a vehicle for new player growth.Likewise, there isn't some massive demographic of millennials that are ready to jump back into Yugioh if you only print the right amount of Blue Eyes/Dark Magician support/retrains etc. They will continue to live in the comments of Team APS videos, complaining about the game but not engaging with it.This game, like most physical cards games, is propped up by an aging demographic of autistic millennials. Konami will continue to pander to it, because attempts at growth elsewhere hasn't worked.
>>541649185Loreslop that gets BTFO by current metaSo any newplayer that even finds it by mistake is gonna drop the game the moment they face the meta
the real reason genesys will succeed is the monthly banlist.if they fuck up they can literally just fix it.meanwhile advanced: enjoy 6 months of designated shilled product and get excited for upcoming 6 months of new shilled product that will make current shilled product obsolete.
>>541649183This. They were forced to reset the anime because another Master Rules anime wouldn't be compatible with how bloated the card game already got by then. Cards that would've made for a watchable anime would've just been unplayable IRL.
>>541649292The deck didn't fucking exist for three decades without it because the deck simply wasn't a thing, a pile of cards isn't a deck, you complete and utter troglodyte. The genesys version of the deck isn't even petdeck playable, claiming otherwise is you being contrarian for the sake of it.
Artifacts will soon get another one of their cards banned, they aged welltbf if they ban quinquery, or just kill k9 is not bad either
>>541649185>The Digimon TCG is deadAlright, how did a Japanese company fuck up their card game again this time?
>>541648606There is no card game on the planet that gets fresh blood, not even pokemon does, card games as a hobby are an exclusively 25+ thing.
>new playerslollmao evenThis game requires far too much to even play, let alone be good at it.There is a reason pros are always LOUD about how "fun and awesome" the game is, they know the writing is on the wall and the game is slowly losing players
>>541649353Genesys will fail because it will not be a major in moving packs out of shelvesThe rapid banlists after a week long testing spree by insiders after new cards drop will be a major hit to sales numbers
>>541649457It's a terribly designed card. Might as well ban the degenerate lingering floodgate.
>>541649392The deck literally won Worlds a full decade before Wishes exists.You are in denial and you fundamentally don't understand the format's core rules.
>>541649475It's ygo, but with digimon. It's also not really dead by the standards of a non big-3 card game.
>>541649353This. Konami can't afford frequent banlists for Advanced since it's their main moneymaking format, and their priority for it is profit.
>>541649553Yeah, it won Worlds in a format where every other deck was crippled.
>>541649569I meant how is the Digimon TCG doing now compared to how it was doing before?
>>541649545>The rapid banlists after a week long testing spree by insiders after new cards drop will be a major hit to sales numbersthis only upsets meta troons.emergency banlists have a negative connotation for no reason.if you realize you printed a mistake the correct course of action is to admit you printed a mistake (I.e ban it).
>>541644090Pendulum rules are really simple to deal with once you know them. Its learning them in the first place that's a bit annoying due to arbitrary shit like "umm actually your card gets banished even though it never went to the GY".
>>541649457That's like saying Amorphages aged well because Dragon decks can use their bosses as floodgates with Spheres
>>541649485There's like 3 in Japan.
>>541649719Meta troons are literally the only audience that matters because they're the only ones that buy cards, boomoids want to use their old stuff with no modification.
>are an exclusively 25+ thing.This nigga never been at a card show
>>541649553>Konami brings an emergency hotfix to the most popular archetype that counters the meta to increase sales>Game evolves overtime and said hotfix becomes outdated>Konami brings in another hotfix that counters Maliss and Ryzeal if it wins the die roll>Suddenly KoA makes Genesys to "increase the playerbase">They disabled that hotfix which makes BEWD an outdated unplayable mess>Gimped meta deck wins first major Genesys eventkek
>>541649545Genesys is the format Konami is gonna be using to try and increase player count, popularity, and event attendance. They don't need Genesys to profit, since that what the Advanced format is for.
>>541649353am i delusional for thinking they never fuck up?when they make busted decks like maliss they 100% know what they are doing and are aware of implications of their design choice, they just believe that the money they make from competitive players outweighs the few players they lose each time (and they will probably come back anyway)
>>541647184>but weren't link monsters their attempt at fixing the game and slowing everything down?No. What they did was kneecapping older mechanics into needing links to function to push links/new product.
>>541649475>>541649717It's not dead. Digimon's numbers have been going up every single quarter for the past half decade, and not just with the card game. Even in the West, it's consistently hovering around 4th-6th best-selling on tcgplayer.The main issue is that there is a MASSIVE gap between the Top 4 in each region and all the other TCGs. It's insurmountable.
>>541649719Emergency banlists are risky because it can easily devalue their productsImagine a new pack comes out and some fag finds out an unfun thing you can do with the mandatory rogue deck in-archetype skill drain and do it with consistency in a HT + Board Breaker light environment
>>541649847>boomoids want to use their old stuff with no modificationIf that were true then new blue-eyes, DM, egyptian god and toon support wouldn't always cost an arm and a leg even when its garbage.
>>541649719This. They'll be paying a lot more attention to balancing in Genesys than the regular format.
>>541649457Quinquery and Sanctifier need to get banned, as well as any other “summon your card to opp side” cards. We look retarded enough with Gimmick Puppet Nightmare on the list, do we really need to add Mjollnir and every other retarded shitcard with a bad lock like it’s konami protecting Firewall/Halq all over again
>>541649742imagine dueling a pendulum archetype you've never read in your life.i'm talking 20 something pendulum cards or more.now imagine every single card activation on opponents turn has you reading double text boxes on a long combo that through all of em (40 text boxes).now imagine you're on a tourney setting with a clock running, where you get fucked because your reading time eats away at the overall match time, so you end up not reading all 40 text boxes thoroughly. think of all the cheating your opponent can get away with.now imagine all this and you're a beginner.this is why they never make meta pend decks.having a pendulum meta deck benefits absolutely no one.the actual issue with pendulum is they exist at all, if konami could go back in time and unexist them they would. that's what genesys is.
>>541649847Metafaggots are irrelevant in Genesys since it's supposed to be the casual format that brings in new and returning casual players. The banlists being frequent in order to constantly curb the top decks is a sign of that.Konami doesn't need meta players to be playing Genesys since they already play Advanced and give them money that way.
>>541650117KoJ will just simply sack them when they realize that less people are buying packs because cheap singles for Genesys is the way to go
>>541649889Did you mean shop?
has anyone checked how genesys impacted on older/longtime banned cards' sales?
>Kill Legendary Duelist Pack>Kill AC>Soon to kill PP>Refuse to give support Anime Deck that good>Keep shoving DBP/Lore DeckSo, that's mean they want to drop boomer pandering and trying to new playe->Refuse to streamline the game for new player >Keep the autist COOOOMBO, which drive new player away>Refuse to help them how to playI dont understand what kind of schizo are they doing
Actually now that I think about it, has an on-demand repeatable nuke every turn ever been a real deck before Mitsurugi? Like Garunix is only for each standby phase unlike Murakumo triggering it whenever it gets special summoned, and Thunderclap Wolf was never a real deck
>>541650419Prankids, nigga.
>>541650419Zoodiac Zeus. (ZOOS)
>>541650269>Metafaggots are irrelevant in GenesysNo casual will ever comprehend a VS deckThe bringing in casuals thing is all just a sales pitch since there are literally no viable casual decks out there
>>541650056Product value is irrelevant in Genesys since it's not the main profit-making format.Only investortards that cry about losing money because they can't resell are gonna be upset because the meta decks are gonna keep getting hit.
As long as Konami keep shoving COOOOOOMBO/Resource Loop deck, it will drive people away
>>541650468Battle Buttler has to be Fusion Summoned, admittedly
>>541650387As a bunch of people have said already: They don't want new players. The primary focus is keeping those already invested and entrenched happy.>erm, but existing players complain about the game all the timeAnd yet they still play. Still buy cards. Still spend time on MD.
>>541650335I feel like it's the opposite, most people at my locals picked up new decks specifically for Genesys. For example, I got a playset of Radiant Typhoon stuff at the prerelease for literally free because no one wanted that garbage pre-Genesys, and the same guys who gave me those cards went and re-bought them and topped my locals with them.
>>541650236Going through this with D/D/D again. Why can’t cards have one-two really good effs instead of 3-4 that I have to evaluate while the clock ticks down
>>541650559I'm not talking about investortards retard I'm talking about Konami itselfMaking the "casual friendly format" not have viable casual decks will just kneecap growth even further now that they have first impressionsThe point of making a casual friendly format is to bring in new profit streams and all Genesys will do is just cannibalize the advanced format by making it less appealing to buy newer packs
i don't want yugioh to die i love yugioh and only got into it recentlyall other card games have ugly cards, each yugioh card is beautiful
>>541650708Did they buy Konami product?If no then why would KoJ allow KoA split their time with a format that doesn't bring in sales?This isn't our first time seeing an alternate format anon
>>541650335Genesys was never a format for making profit, so that's irrelevant.They're encouraging players who just kept the decks they liked to mostly play with whatever cards they happen to own already.Metaretards meanwhile are gonna keep complaining about the new cards that they bought since it was meta in Genesys, being hit so soon because the banlists are so frequent.Genesys is a format for Petdeckchads.
>>541650236That's the same problem with any unfamiliar modern yugioh deck. If anything, pendulum monsters' effects can be easier to parse because which box you read depends on where the card is activated. With non pend monsters you have to read the entire fucking thing and just figure out what matters.
>>541650657You can easily use it two times.
Genesyssie will fail because there is nowhere to play itSome guy on discord said his LGS ran a poll because there were literally no timeslots left in the week to play both advanced and genesysGenesys lost 12-7 and everyone just kept on plaing advancedGenesys would have worked back in 2019 when OP/Lorcana didn't exist but now there are too many games competing for store spaceSo now that this guy's locals won't host Genesys where can he actually play Genesys?Master Duel? NopeYCS Genesys next year? ok but that's in 2026YCS invitationals? ok but is the YCS event itself happening at all in your city? will you be willing to travel? That already will filter a ton of peopleWhat's left then? edopro, its clones and dueling book?yikes
>>541650379There are Yugitubers whose content is all just card prices.
>>541650236>talks about new players>adds a tournament settingDon't join tournaments just to slowplay.
>>541650519Meta deck are gonna keep getting hit every list until there's no meta at all and a lot of decks end up being on similar powerlevels.Metafags are gonna avoid Genesys because they like playing against the same decks over and over since that's the only thing they're actually good at, and they're actually not that generally skilled at Yugioh.
>>541650970The point of bringing casuals is to introduce them to the product ecosystem anonWhen the best way to play a "casual friendly" format is through second hand markets then it's already on a rough startLet's see what KoA is cooking for a Genesys oriented product and see if it's gonna be on the same tier as Speed Duel or be a small side event like Time Wizard
>>541651054All four LGSs near me have run Genesys these past two weeks.Next one's on Tuesday.
>>541650802This. All those different unrelated effects on the same card that can all be activated on the same turn is completely bullshit card design.
>>541651275did people enjoy it?
>>541650943Genesys doesn't need to increase sales since Advanced is already selling. Genesys is there for Konami to increase Yugioh's playerbase ranking.
>>541651404Seems like it. None of the stores have any plans of dropping them.
>>541651275Good for you but that's clearly not the case for everyone
Blompfken in 4 minutes
>>541651216>until there's no meta at allLol, lmao even, even if the only thing we were left with were level 4 and under vanillas there would still be a meta.
MARTHA XYZ PLEASE
>>541651606Weren't there already reveals today?
Labrynth in 3
My locals ran genesys last Sunday and everyone turned trans...
>>541651409Product sales are heavily dependent whether if its relevant to Advanced or not anonWe're currently in a boom format so we have product movement for nowThe thing I'm worried about is that Genesys will also compound on the worthlessness of packs when the next line has jackshit and OTS will have to dedicated less and less space for YGO for the forseeable 6 months until the next major set has good cards
>>541651623Not if deck diversity is wide enough.
>>541651776Objectively better cards will always exist, this whole petdeck heaven nonsense is just that, nonsense.
>>541651775I’m not looking forward to whatever genesys shit is inevitably in the next ots pack
>>541651843My petdeck is currently thriving in genesys format though?
>ArcV only reach below 10M viewOwari da ...https://yugioh-starlight.com/archives/59444131.html
>>541651879Sure it is.
>>541651843If they're not too much better than the other decks, then the results will end up being varied enough. Otherwise, if the gap is too big, they'll get hit on the points list.
>Fart-V
The literally retarded autists who have a total combined IQ of 60 together with the KOJ execs not being able to grasp why Genesys doesn't need to instantly make more direct "profit" to be a massive benefit to the brand should probably be killed because nobody that retarded should be allowed to vote or drive a carThe biggest issue with yugioh is that it has absolutely decimated its brand image and fallen into pathetic obscurity where nobody even knows or cares that it exists with a dying breed of autistic 30 year old metapig virgins buying overpriced toilet paper every 6 months, fixing the brand image and pumping life into the playerbase is the top 1 priority if they actually want the game to continue existing
>>541651879Based.
>>541651026Yeah but that's not looping it every single turn
KoJ will always design the most unbalancing format everSo, even if KoA crack down it using point, it would still alots stronger than other, non shilled deckLike, compare Ojama to Tearlament
All this talk about genesissy format but one thing has become apparent in the last few daysLess and less people are hosting games here compared to the week it was announcedWhere did the hype go? What happened?
>>541650157Quinquery is a reborn for any Level 5 so like yeah we do actually have to ban all the shitty ass self-lock cards
>>541651879No anon, a meta deck from a year ago is not a petdeck
Genesys would be so easy to add to MD as the 2nd option but they're simply never going to do it
15 hours until Misawa saves us
>>541650419black rose dragon deck.
>>541651775AnonIf you buy a box of DOOD, you can instantly throw away 214 of the cards you pull without looking, because only the two Secrets have any competitive value whatsoever. Konami has cemented this in everyone's brain over the past two decades, every card in every set is useless filler.A new format that gives people an actual reason to read the new cards they pull can ONLY increase sales.
>>541652137The usual, a small group of /dng/cels show up with unfun, unfair bullshit and ruin it for everyone else because they're mindbroken.
Genesyssie is a solved formatJust play VS and you will win every game just like in advanced lmao
Albaz Season 2 will fix Yugioh
>more branded slop will save yugioh
>>541652492Bruh VS got hit to hell and back in advanced, no one is winning with it.
>>541646092Lol no. Link, synchro, xyz require (you) to commit resource to summon the card. Fusion summon rewards (you) for performing the fusion summoning. This is why fusion will always be the best
>>541652013Lemme put it in basic math anonWhen a game is more casual friendly then there will be a bigger potential customer base for product releasesThe major problem that Konami has right now is that product design has been horrible for quite a while now and incentivizes second hand markets which makes the OTS bear the costs which makes it less appealing to them to sell YGO productNow that the new format has made half of the upcoming sets' contents worthless then there'd be additional costs for the OTS if it has embraced Genesys which makes product more irrelevant than beforeI'm pretty sure the TCG has upcoming plans for product tailored towards that and we'd be in the same spot as the Advanced FL list where it's designed around product releases which has the same problems
/dng/ LEAGUE ROUND 6JOIN:https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1Here's how this works:>4 month long tournament, spanning from the 7th of September to the 18th of January (20 rounds), with the Top 4 Finals taking place on the 25th of January>new participants can join the tournament at any point in time, just sign up on the tournament page>a single round will be held each week>BO3 matches and we're using a very basic leaderboard system, match wins and byes net you 2 points, match losses net you 1 point and no shows give you nothing>2 no shows in a row will result in a disqualification>matchups will be randomized each week, as allowing new players to join all the time messes with any automated round systems>The randomized matchups will be announced in the thread each Monday and the matchups can agree on the time and date of the duel during that week>you are allowed to change decks between rounds>we will be using the most recent TCG banlist and the PRERELEASE card pool>300 second turn timers, no reason for a time limit on rounds as it's only 1 round per week>report scores via DMsCHALLONGE DMs ARE BACK ONLINEThis means we no longer need to rely on the Discord server, but I'm still keeping it around just in case. Here's the link if anyone new joins:https://discord.gg/CM8tYGxS3ARULE CHANGE REMINDER:You can do Genesys (or any other format of dueling) instead of Advanced TCG if both players can agree on the terms. The Top 4 finals in January will still be Advanced TCG only, however.ROUND 5 MATCHUPS:>Unplayer vs SGoblin>Rem vs Da>Lacooda vs Getter>Maelstrom vs Commonwheat>Porker vs Lynex>Velleity vs Nyx
>Scythe>Lancea>MjollnirIt's funny how this archetype keeps showing up for completely the wrong reasons
you have to understand we dont matter. Yugioh is making billions in japan every year, game is doing really well. rest of the world just exists to pay for a few bottles of sake.
>>541652629Black hole dragon is the closest thing, since unlike thunderclap skywolf if facilitates its own loop.
>>541652443We have the OCG anonWe clearly know which cards are gonna be relevant and which ones are gonna be filler bullshit ahead of time
>>541652923Strongest Primal Origins deck
>>541652197NTA, but i can play springans and have a decent game with back and forth interaction now. In the regular format, springans couldnt do shit, couldnt even make it to rogue with their bandaid
>>541650519>VS has a single card at 10 points>other archetypes a dozen tiers below it have core cards at 33I like genesys but the point list needs some serious work. It looks like whatever decks the konami playtesters where using got nuked while a hundred other much stronger decks got through.
>>541653094Springans are actually based tbqhJust don't tell anyone that Tally Ho is a busted ass card
>>541653094>and have a decent game with back and forth interaction nowYou are clearly not playing competitive Genesys then.
>>541652901didn't i play against maelstorm just last week
>>541652868How is the new format making upcoming set worthless? If anything its making sets more relevant than before.Looking at how it already is now with shit archetypes like Artmage crushing Genesys:Top archetype of the next box -> top of metaShit archetypes of the box -> top of Genesys metaDoubles the amount of player relevant cards in each box
>>541650519Extrax should get a fat 10
>>541653241It's crazy that GLADIATOR PROVING GROUND is 33 fucking points
>Muh New format BaaaaaaadLiterally equivalent of>Muh Change BaaaaaadLike, KoA trying their hardest (and failed) to make Speed Duel format viable
>>541653617If they allowed links and pends we could've had:>Gouki>DDD>Solfa>Tri-brigade All viable for genesys, alas.
>>541653746Their biggest fuckup with Speed Duel was forcing people to rebuy cards they already owned. When Genesys was announced almost everyone already had a petdeck that was immediately viable.
>>541650157id rather keep the cool mechanic of summon to your opponent's side as an option for the game rather than keeping shitty lock cards that nobody plays except for degeneracy.
They should make>Genesys Build packfor newcomer, because keeping track on the point will fuck newcomer up
>>541653689>>541653828I genuinely believe they had pends + links available for a long time during internal testing for Genesys but removed them last minute. There is zero reason for shit like Glad Beast, Ninjas, and Tenyi to have point costs when they lost so much from the removal of links.
>>541653881>Their biggest fuckup with Speed Duel was forcing people to rebuy cards they already ownedI wouldn't even consider that a fuckup. The question would be how would the average player find out if the opponent has a Speed Duel legal deck when none of their cards have to be Speed Duel cards?
>>541654035Then we end up in a situation where everything in that set would be unpointable. If they increase the points on a deck then the product suddenly becomes worthless
>>541654609MTG has like a hundred different formats with different card pools for each and those retarded faggots can keep track of everything just fine.
>>541654718Except MTG doesn't make formats where some cards are picked from a variety of sets to become legal. They basically always amount to a banlist>All cards that are X rarity>All cards from X set onwards is legal>All cards from Y set onwards is legal>All cards are legal>All cards, except ones on this banlist, are legalafaik there has never been one like>This format only allows cards released in these specific products
>>541654035I don't think they'll do genesys specific packs but I'm sure they'll now start reprinting banned shit like pot of greed and graceful charity at every given opportunity.
>>541653472The matchups are entirely randomized each week and I'm not really keeping track of repeats. I don't think it matters that much but I can do it starting next week if some of you would prefer it that way.
>>541653617
Yugioh will never be like Mtg or Pokemon, cry about it trannies>bbbut they're betteryou're buckbroken fags that are still here and refuse to leave LMAO
What are all the reveals of 2025 you cared for thus far>Dark Magician>Masked Hero>Lunalight>Constellarknight>Darklord
>>541655212>Yugioh will never be like Mtg or Pokemon
>>541655169The funny thing is that those are the cards that are not associated with a Link/Pendulum deck, you'd still have to chop off the genuine stinkers that still won't work in the format even if you try your hardest.
digimon is the only good tcg
>>541655336This is why announcing Genesys without an associated product with it is a bad business moveGenesys players won't even bother with buying DOOD packs because a significant amount of cards there are just incompatibleIf you add the stinkers along with the incompatible cards then the whole set would just be chase cards for Advanced players
yummy ruined this game not even rush has garbage like that
>>541655874Has Rush gotten bad with powercreep or something?
>>541655162i think it's fine, i just thought maybe you used some manner of seeding to avoid it
>>541655953She looks like she rapes human men
>>541655169And out of the remaining cards in your image, only three of them are actually playable in Advanced.Meanwhile, all of Typhoon, Rose, DoomZ, and Megalith are tiered in Genesys.
>>541655274Can confidently say Diabellstar taking a shower was the highlight this year
>>541650909I'd say Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't have ugly art but alot of it is safe and samey art. Especially post branded. They figured out a safe formula/artstyle during branded and kept using it for 5 years. I genuinely hate it. I'd rather have unsafe ugly art.
>>541655169You need to cross out radiant typhoon now they have a link
>>541656504Anon, Link monsters are banned in Genesys, not Link archetypes.
BPRO>rokket dragon link (link)>darklord (uses link)>fur hire (uses link)>radiant typhoon (link)>archfiend (pendulum)>yummy (linkchro)damn bpro is dead as fuck on arrival lmao
Hosting, EU casual
>>541656914Good lets kill geneshit
>>541656914Good. I'm so disappointed in archfiends i want to pretend that shit never happened and it's not even out yet.
genesys is the main format nowyou have to accept this fact
would this archetype be good in master duel? the cards look really coolhow is it compared to heros? (since that's what i play currently while i'm working on building sprights)
>>541656065>Meanwhile, all of Typhoon, Rose, DoomZ, and Megalith are tiered in Genesys.NTA but sauce? I like Rose.
>>541657471Magical Musket is pretty good with friendsmith :)
>>541656914Typhoon, Archfiend, and Darklord are playable in Genesys. Only Link monsters are banned, not any archetype that has them.BPRO also has K9 and Dracotail support, which is playable in Genesys.
>>541657471>LIGHT FiendYes
I'm on board entirely because of frequent banlist.Literally insane that advanced trannies will hear monthly community driven fun prioritizing banlists and their response is foaming at the month and seething.Almost like they just want the game to be p2w instead of good o algo.
>>541657716Master Duel has a monthly banlist and it's arguably the worst official format.The issue isn't frequency, it's who's behind the wheel.
>>541656914>rokket dragonThey have other, non Link one,so stop crying>Yummy just added Level 1 Beast Tuner and be done with this shit
>>541657797>Master Duel has a monthly banlistwait what, since when
>>541655953>Convinient actionpose that obscures crotch and chestClever but also fuck you i want to see a big puffy and fluffy chest turt that's clearly hiding a pair of H sized breasts
>>541657879Always
>>541657836I've been trying to force Rokkets in Genesys and it's actually not that bad.They have a decent Ritual. And Furious.
>>541655274>fur hire>radiant typhoon>yummy & k9 (their support)>R.B.>earth psychics>lunalights>hecahands>enneacraft>odion.dek
>>541657881I'm pretty sure EX Ripper just flat out loses the breasts
>>541658236this guy stacks his deck with quick launch boot ravine + double disruptor every turn
>>541655953EX ripper more like SEX ripper
>>541619178how the fuck could this be VFD-tier rank 9 toolbox
It's pretty funny that the Rank 9 pool and even Rank 10 pool is getting nice shit meanwhile the generic Rank 7 pool is still just Big Eye :)
>new shilled cards for shilled decks that make the game miserable>realize i don't actually have to deal with them amazing feeling, only thing wrong with genesis is it hasn't happened sooner goddamn.
>>541646165and also the GOAT for normies
>>541659319Bro your Ariseheart?
Like 99% of the Rank 7 pool is just Spell Speed 1 removal tricks
what's the best vanilla polymerization centric deck?
>>541660017lunalight
>>541660017Lunalight
>>541659319Just play dragons my guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWOEShAew1gKaiba has lines for the BE support
>>541660017Aside from the obvious one, Chimera often runs the Frightfur engine to search Poly. I think Heroslop uses Poly as well.
>>541660337i love MDpro because it let's you have these in MD.it feels so right.yes konami, you fucking kikes, if i'm playing blue eyes i wanna larp as kaiba, i do not care about your lore slop, give me anime pandering.
>>541619942That's pretty much impossible to fix without banning 90% of the cards released in the past 10 years or something. I don't think Genesys is going to bring in many casuals, because like you said the game is definitely too far gone, but as a long time player I feel it's definitely revitalized my love for the game (for now).>decks feel a lot less generic because engineslop is pricey now so it really isn't worth speccing all your 100 points into putting slop into your shitty deck instead of generic staples like handtraps>decks also feel a lot less generic because of no links. I don't mind links on a conceptual level but all the generic cards just made shit really samey. If you were playing a dragon deck you would almost definitely run Spheres, any deck that was winged beast, beast or beast warrior would use Tri Brigade as a crutch etc etc>not to say this issue is entirely resolved but Im seeing a lot less boring shit running around>no links also means a lot lower of a power ceiling where some older decks can actually at least keep up and play now>points list is interesting as freeing so many powerful cards but putting a hefty price on them allows for more interesting deckbuilding.>the things they say imply they'll be focusing on making this format as balanced and diverse as possible (even doe the points list doesn't really reflect this in some cases) and even though it's Jewnami I'll give them the benefit of the doubt at least this one time because I want to believe>monthly points list updates are a great idea as long as they actually handle this well (they probably won't)All that being said the first point was enough for me to stick around desu. I'm fucking tired of every deck being some variant of K9, Horus, Kashtira, Adventurer whatever the fuck and as soon as they kill one engine they bring in a new one that's marginally more annoying. This kind of stuff can go burn in hell forever.
I ACTIVATE LAST TURN
>>541662143Okay how can i abuse this shit?Like some card that said>End the Battle Phase
>>541662392fader activates in the hand so it wouldn't work
>>541662392Last Turn is ruled to have the Summoned monsters battle in a special BP just for them, so that wouldn't work
>>541653472Hold up, common you here? Can you actually play the league game today?
>>541662835i can play in like 30 minutes if you wantor in 6 hours
>>541662143>>541662143Is Victory dragon allowed in genesyssie format
>>541663052I think so
>>54166299030 minutes then, I'll be here. Just call me out.
Please konami bring link back to genesys. My mom is kinda homeless...
>>541663551>lets turn this cool format into the same garbage as standardNO
>>541663704It's not really a cool format though, you're just desperate and so will lap up anything offered that's different.
>>541663551Nah.
any tiredbros itt
>>541663768>Please please please let me play my linkslop I'll do anything I'll suck your cock>N-not like your format is good or anything... B-baka
>>541663768it would defeat the whole purpose of making a new format if it just turned into advanced 2.0
>>541663768Ok then if it's so bad then you won't mind not playing it.Go on.Shoo.
any suggestions on what engines I can put inside a Nekroz Deck? All the nekroz cards are 0 cards which is awesome but Bahamut and toadally are too much pricy. I was thinking of including Nadir Servant + Dogmatika Package but Herald of Arc light is 50 points by itself so I can't see that happening. Should I just slap in a set of handtraps and call it a day?
>>541663704The point system makes it very different from standard already.
>>541663836>23 minutes of apologizing and prostrating to master dueldidn't expect that
>>541664229forget to specify it's genesys at the start. Also Nadir is 33.
>>541663836kek doomposters can't stop winning
>>541663997VS was the meta until Konami had an emergency banlist because the meta was too similar to advanced.
>You can use 1 link in genesys for 100 pointsyes/no?
>>541664659no
>>541664659dirty halq hands wrote that post
>>541616392What's the argument why you cannot normal summon monsters in defense position like in the anime again?
why does everything bridge into everything else these days
>>541664240clearly not different enough so they got rid of links and pends pends could probably get added without problems since every issue from this game comes from link monsters
>>541662990yo common are you going to be able to play soon or in 6 hours?
>>541665215they now only put restrictions on cards they want to be bad looking at the new archfiend cards
>>541665279Yeah, but how>MR 3People beefing on the fact that you can resummon Pend from ED again, also lots of new card assumre that Pend was set in S/T zone>MR4No Link = No EMZ = No Pend summon
>>541664569>emergency banlistI've seen you post this a half dozen times. Why do you think it was an emergency banlist? I don't see anything in the blog post that suggests that.
>>541665215Because people complain about archtype making deck building """""""bad"""""""""
>>541665353in 6
>>541665475Erm, but I was told that actually locks don't affect a deck's playability or power in the slightest and aren't usually a sign of overbalancing when put on cards that didn't warrant them?
>>541665927Cool, I'll come back around that time frame
>>541665861monthly
>>541653746I agree with >>541653881 The fact KOA actually attempted to force players to rebuy their bulk is what ultimately killed the format. For example, I was able to build a full Cyberdark and Elemental HERO deck with my already existing collection, but I couldn't use the decks because they didn't have the arbitrary Speed Duel watermark. Really killed my willingness to play the format.
>>541665279That's why there are points. Look at all the floodgates at 100 points.
>>541665943there's good and bad types of locks>archetype locksbad >type locks>attribute locks>summon mechanic lockgood battlin boxer ended up being completely unplayable due to having a archetype lock
>>541665991no i meant 6 minutes, you can hostn ow if you want
>>541666263Depends on the type and what point you're locked, having your starters Pyrolock you is fucking abhorrentCrystron Sulfador Machinelocking you if you use its effect to summon itself is completely fine, both as a general lock and when you're locked
>>541662143Type locks suck whenever it's a bad type and type + attribute locks suck if it isn't an already popular combo ala dark dragon. My preferred lock is probably the one on Vaylantz cards where it locks you out of main deck specials but you can use whatever you want from the ed.
>>541665861>The initial points list was frozen at the end of August so we could focus on the Genesys launch without constant additional changes. So we’ve built up a bit of a backlog from further internal testing. I don't even know why you think otherwise when they hit the fucking wrong Mikanko.
>>541665215First you bitch about xenolocks being bad because you don't get to be creative, then you turn around and bitch about a lack of locks because everything without them turns into a blob of best cards, you'll never be happy and it's all your fault.
>>541663836>Comes back to the TCG>Bitcheskek
>>541663836>Jush best format>THIS BANLIST IS HUGE/INSANE>it changes EVERYTHING>everyone and their mother still playing Mitsurugi in their decks regardless of King of Feral Imps because Mitsu is fucking busted>Yummy, the strongest new deck got buffed with DOOD>Floodgates pop up again because K9 is a engine that indirectly enables them >Duelists realize that if they don't stop the opponent turn1, they lose, therefore we go back to main 18-21 handtraps againBRAVO
>>541664659YES
And now we learn why it'll never be a "boardbreaker" formatBecause it turns out we have 50 autowin cards if you don't try and handtrap your opponent to death
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Mitsurugi jobbed in the last YCs
>>541666817there's a sweetspot between the two extremes and it's the designers' job to nail it
>>541667410>jobbed>win dice roll, makes full mitsu and yummy combo>loses dice roll, jobbedThere's not a single deck that don't job, if we consider this. No deck in format manages to go second in engine and win consistently, along with being able to go first and secure an endboard enough to make the opponent scoop. Mitsu-Yummy is the closest thing that, and that can't get better otherwise the format is over.
>>541666273>come back from getting breakfast to find out you meant 6 mins not 6 hoursAlright common are you able to join a game right now or in 6 hours?
>>541667996nowhost
What comes after mitsurugi in masterduel, White forest support. K9 convince me to save my gems.
>>541667912>lostYep, they jobbed
huuuuuuuh
>>541667112This format will be fixed if they ban more vanquish soul cards
Anything to change? I was thinking of putting Thunderbird in the side/replacing it with another Bigfoot and taking out 1 cosmic cyclone. Maybe also take out the playset of threatening roar or thunder of ruler and throwing in a playset of torrential tribute instead.
>>541653094>>541653312>>541653471Springans are for whoring out to other decks in Genesys.
>>541668739Try playtesting a little more and decide based on the results.
>>541669220It's kinda gay when someone says a deck's only purpose is to be whored out as an engine when it's not a waifu deck desu
>>541665215I wish spoon didn't look so gay I'd probably play the deck/engine more
>>541668739Play Strom[[Berg]] instead of the bad cards (probably the battle tricks why the fuck are you running so many battle tricks in a going second deck) Why the fuck are you running dealings with that small of a danger line up when upstart is free? "I, uh, can't kill with the HP gain" What are you? Some kind of faggot? Kill through it and stop giving your opponent the opportunity to walk all over youFor the love of God actually play rank 8s. The galaxy eyes line up will let you kill so much easierAt least run 2-2 of Bigfoot and ThunderbirdYou should probably be mining kaijusYou could do with maining trade in if you do add in more 8s (Hexe Trude, Kaijus, More Dangers) Side should be stuff to beat backrow slop and breakers
>>541649052It goes to show how crucial marketing is, with Trif getting tons of glory because he goes out of his way to make himself seem like a big deal.
>>541670504Hey retardThis is a genesys only general now
>>541649185Jesse is a zoomer you know. The last Dragon Duelists were early zoomers.
>>541663836He's unironically right in his video, mostly because he's preaching for the most universally accepted concept for the game which is that both players should be able to play the game.>All 3 games of the finals of YCS Anaheim had 0 cards played on turn 2 with a scoop immediately happening after drawing their card for turnDecks are simply able to do too much and too much broken shit is just arbitrarily given leeway despite being total fucking cancer. Paired with the fact that the TCG banlist is so fucking slow to come and weak to hit it just makes a miserable game to play.It makes me genuinely wonder what the TCG is fucking doing. They clearly recognize the shit we are seeing is complete cancer, hence why Genesys exists at all. Yet they pussyfoot around actually hitting anything substantially.Are people even buying JUSH anymore?
>>541670901I'm a genesister too.All formats matter.Except Edison lol.
ggs common. the moment I allowed that link to live and preemptively activated the banishing trap and I knew I choked that game 1.
>>541664229b-bwos? should I move to Megalith instead?
>>541649309>They will continue to live in the comments of Team APS videos, complaining about the game but not engaging with it.This is wrong. Yugioh will always live in the consciousness of Millennials, but not everyone is a retarded Komoney whale so after the Master Duel debut debacle, they will only "engage" with the game if it's demonstrably proven for a steady long period of time that the game has been fixed into a healthy state that is worth investing in.Master Duel sucks right now. TCG sucks right now. Genesys sucks right now. Literally nothing to indicate Yugioh should be taken seriously at the moment. But, the key thing is people can be brought back, provided the correct things are done.
>>541649965You're not delusional; you have a brain, judging by this post.
In Genesys you can use Diablosis and Shangri Ira on First turn to zone lock 3 opponent zones, you can still use 12 Kashtira monsters cards and all spells and traps to build a combo with Riseheart and Big Bang with 15 points left spare
>>541669602Then what is Fiendsmith, sissy?
one of the most cool card we have had in a long time.
>>541671653The thing is, thats tame.Only real kashtira threat is the shifter they'll sack, that's it.
>>541671341/vg/ generals are for shit posting, ritual posting, doomposting and fake gay discord drama, not for the discussion of videogames.(or in this case, discussion of deckbuilding)You will have a better chance at finding your answers browsing ygoprodeck decklists at the genesys format tag.
>>541649965>when they make busted decks like maliss they 100% know what they are doing and are aware of implications of their design choiceI mean we've had former Konami employees discuss shit like this in interviews. They straight up DO design decks to be competitive and they DO design decks to be shit.Maliss was pushed because it was designed by someone who was told to make the new hotness, and they did. Same with Ryzeal, you don't stumble upon "non-OPT pop several cards per turn" and "double searcher rank 4" and "each monster summons or searches the other and they all extend too" without knowing what you are doing.
>>541671861but I am ritual posting! :^)
>>541671409yeah you are right, i think what's most important is for the game to be healthy again for long enough to regain good faith from the players.the number 1 turning new players off from master duel is the playerbase itself, a few weeks ago when i asked in /mdg/ if i should give the game another try after a long hiatus, the answers were almost exclusively "don't come back the format sucks maliss is sucking the fun out of the game"i still pushed through and played, but i feel like most people would just listen to the advice they are given.obviously i don't have the numbers, maybe konami is making more money than ever and they are happy with, but i just have a hard time believing that this is a good way to run a cardgame if you actually want it to exist 30 or 40 years from now
>>541671196>Except Edison lol.Why? What do you have against that format?
>>541649527Yugioh being such a game for Lawyers ensures that Advanced Format will never be as mainstream as it once was.
>>541671962>the number 1 turning new players off from master duel is the playerbase itself, a few weeks ago when i asked in /mdg/ if i should give the game another try after a long hiatus, the answers were almost exclusively "don't come back the format sucks maliss is sucking the fun out of the game"I mean they are absolutely fucking right. That's not really a playerbase issue, they are warning you the game is not in a good spot so coming back to it is a bad idea.If we were still in Gouki Gumblar Extra Link format, I would not recommend Yugioh to any potential new player too
>>541671264ggi didn't play great either, at least i was smart enough to have a back up plan against nibiru
>>541671970Nothing personal against it i only played it a few times with casual decks i just lost interest when they changed the rules.
>>541672048Yugioh needs a reboot, not of the power level of the game but just streamlining all the retardation that has piled up over time.
>>541672092oh i wasn't saying they were lying, they were 100% correct.i was more so saying that konami can't revive the game by buying advertisement spots and paying some streamers, they need to gain back the goodwill they lost
>>541672247Not the anon you're replying to, but I'm curious. What rule changes are you talking about? I'm not familiar with edison.
>>541671962>yeah you are right, i think what's most important is for the game to be healthy again for long enough to regain good faith from the players.correct>the number 1 turning new players off from master duel is the playerbase itself, a few weeks ago when i asked in /mdg/ if i should give the game another try after a long hiatus, the answers were almost exclusively "don't come back the format sucks maliss is sucking the fun out of the game"that's noble and preventing people from wasting their time, way better than setting false expectations>i still pushed through and played, but i feel like most people would just listen to the advice they are given.there's nothing wrong with that>obviously i don't have the numbersthe steamcharts are showing record low playership for months on end>maybe konami is making more money than ever and they are happy withthey are now trickling out pennypinching but desperation-smelling "incentives" to play the game>i just have a hard time believing that this is a good way to run a cardgame if you actually want it to exist 30 or 40 years from nowit isn't, that company is run by yellow kikes that shamelessly factory farm their non-Asian paypigs
>>541654035No, they should release "Duel Genesys" - a spiritual successor to Duel Devastator that includes all of the Staples that cost points. Its gives easy access to ones that have been out of print for awhile, and those cards tend to be good so can be sold to people interested in Advanced or Genesys.
>>541671953then continue on and ignore my advice.
>>541672415>Yugioh needs a reboot,It needs a genocide banlist and konami needs to be firm these cards are never coming back.
>>541672723what is the strongest a card is allowed to be, just so we have a sense of powerlevel
>>541672628Changed ignition effects to work like advanced and uses modern erratas for cards.Defeats the purpose of a retro format
>>541661641Everyone is just playing tcg lite decks like draco tail and VS. Really disappointing.
>>541672415even in Goat Format there is a horrific amount of "what the fuck?!?" hidden rules you have to learn, like what Skill Drain does or does not negate and what Necrovalley and End Of Anubis does and does not affectit'd need to completely level the game down to the ground and rebuild everything to make complete intuitive sense from the ground upyes indeed, it's not the "powercreep" per se but the amount of random shit you have to know to even begin playing; the insane power level is just the shit cherry on top rewarding all that time and mental effort
>>541672415you trannies got rush alreadyif CHADgioh is too much for your estrogen poisoned brain then go play that
>>541672930You're talking about Konami's Edisn't, the Edison community ignores the new official format especially since Konami killed the circuit in America. They attend grassroots community-run tournaments where the rules are still chronologically-accurate, and Duelingbook too still goes by those rules.
>>541673232>You trannies got rush alreadyWe didn't doe. I WOULD be playing that if it ever got imported but it didn't doever
>>541672930It's really an unwinnable situation for Konami.Judges don't all know the ins and outs of a retro format enough to be able to judge at an event for it, and there's no concrete documented rules Konami has on hand either.Players can barely tell what the fuck is going on normally so knowing what errata to use for a specific snapshot date is going to fuck with people.Konami tried to fix this by using modern rules (that their Judges know) and the modern text (which players can easily access) but that, like you said, ruins the point of the retro format.Konami can't really keep hosting events they can't properly host, so that was the best choice for them. But people rejected it so its really just an unwinnable situation.Even locking down the rules of the format will piss people off because their Judge back then in the middle of fucking nowhere said X happens but Konami is saying Y happens so the format is fucking DEAD!!!! and so on
>>541673232Rush isn't Yugioh. It's made to appeal to children with limited brainpower and attentionspan. It was never going to be popular with nostalgic adults.
Remember when Mariomon and Empolemew tried to start a Weiss Schwarz general and it died immediately?
>>541673446Stop pretending ygo is big brain.Complexity=/= depth
>>541673560Rape this nigga
predict next week's ycs winner
>>541673232I have played the game for well over 20 years now, I know my shit already.New people don't, and Konami struggles to teach it so they should just simplify some of the more mundane shit.Like why even bother with shit like HOPT (activation) and HOPT (use) when you could just use the "use" version like every other fucking card in the game rather than have SOME Spells/Traps work differently for not much gain.Same goes for shit like the different conjunctions getting players to understand the difference between "also, after that", "then", "also", "and if you do" and "and" when you could just make cards work the same to avoid all this shit.Another is "negate that effect" and "negate the activation" like why the fuck even bother with this wanky weirdness for, again, not much gain.It's all just complication for complication's sake. It doesn't make the game more fun for the majority of people to get caught out because their card had 1 word different and therefore the rules that AREN'T written down anywhere change
>>541673560You're retarded. Yugioh is both complex, and deep, particularly when it comes to deckbuilding without enslaving yourself to a 40 card deck of the designated Limited List Power Cards + a pure archetype.In Goat Format, you have ReasoningGate which required an abnormal amount of inegnuity. In Edison Format, you have GigaVise and Forgs, and those are just the decks that have thus far been cracked, with yet more potential still lying unearthed due to the sheer brainpower required to discover them.
>>541673446what you are asking for is made to appeal to a manchildren with limited brainpower and attentionspan, not very different from rush and it'll suit you perfectly
Just posting here waiting for the new thread.
>>541673902When you tell an adult about "Missing The Timing", they will not go, "Oh, okay, that makes sense", they will say "This game is fucking retarded and terribly designed".
>>541673815There's a ycs next week?
>>541673823>Like why even bother with shit like HOPT (activation) and HOPT (use) when you could just use the "use" version like every other fucking card in the game rather than have SOME Spells/Traps work differently for not much gain.There's no card that lets you activate EACH effect per turn, there's only "You can only activate this card's name once per turn", which is why it's only on spell/traps with one effect, or continuous spells/traps/field spells that do something immediately on activation, and the Mulcharmies. Every HOPT instance is a Use HOPT.
>>541673815Trif or Dkayed
>>541674221Brazil
>>541674103Well wait no longer>>541674284New
>>541674338Ah so there is no YCS
>>541674301I think about this card a lot.
felt like doing a meme after watching yugioh influencers seethe on twitter after the finals.
>>541674649funny
>>541673232>CHADgiohall cardgames are for weak trannies and yugioh in particular is for legitimate special ED tier disabled fucks
>>541653241must sell new product
