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Previous thread: >>541569502

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5, and Xbox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots, and squids to spread Managed Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw

>LATEST PATCHES
Sep 02 1.004.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516345493302805199
Sep 04 1.004.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516346126609155527
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NIGGER
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>>541626158
3/4 get in before a pubbie does
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>>541629672
tell blue's discord boyfriend to mute his open mic or shut the fuck up please
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>not disabling voice chat in options
I'm not listening to people
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>>541629782
namedrop him
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>>541629782
wtf are you talking about
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>>541627919
>I wish I had screenshotted those comments here during the invasion of Super Earth when they fucked the handling of chink city and those two distraction MOs.
I still thought that it was stupid that they let us bring the DSS back to Super Earth.
>Inform the playerbase that bringing the DSS to SE is a bad idea because the squids have weapons that can fuck it up
>they bring it to SE anyway
>it gets fucked up
>say it barely escapes
>have event to fix it
>they bring it straight back to SE
they should have destroyed the DSS outright that day by colony dropping it onto super-china. That would have been so fucking funny.
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>>541629853
>voice chat volume:0
>crossplay: disabled
>chinks status: kicked on sight
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>>541629623
>thinking of her
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>>541630023
>timmyturner_prayer.png
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Justice soon, friends!
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>>541630281
bro you dropped your image
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>>541630342
Justice (iron sights and round reload) for liberty day!
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>>541629858
>>541629770
>>541629660
Swedish nationalism is a strange beast. They naturally think they are superior to everyone else, but that superiority is based on how they bend over backwards to create the perfect coddling society for browns and degenerates. In their minds they have utopia, and to show it being destroyed is a horror beyond horror. It's not like Red Dawn for us americans, where it's a fantasy romp where we're on the backfoot and we imagine that the rugged revolutionary spirit of the founders bubbles back up to the surface so we can fight, for the swedes that scenario is literally the end of all goodness in the world. Whatever fight they had left in them has long been bred out. They can't even begin to imagine themselves as underdogs.
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Swarm intellegence? *HAH* They stood no chance against your tactical excellence
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>>541630474
I think it might have to do with American nationalism being based in military superiority, while European nationalism is based on cultural superiority.
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Should I use heavy armor instead of light for bots? I feel like I get 1 shot by them a lot or one of them hits me with 3 or 4 perfectly lined up lasers which just insta gibs me.
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>>541630872
129 fortified
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Tfw no male scalie mod
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>>541630831
hmm, that's a pretty good hypothesis
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Im 100% expecting the patch day to be a nothing burger or they fix like 2 things. Or they dont fix anything and add more slop.
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>>541631021
stfu nigrah
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There is a lobby.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242168008620/76561198120804312
BOTS!
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>>541630831
The thing is plenty of our media shows our military getting its shit slapped. Almost every alien invasion, or Red Dawn, or Homefront. From there it typically shifts focus to individuals taking up arms to fight whatever force is invading to fight it with guerilla warfare. I think it's more to do with individualism vs collectivism. A foreign enemy blowing up DC means little to a bunch of people who probably wanted to see it burn anyway for various reasons, and are only united by the vague idea of a country and a common enemy. Meanwhile if Stockholm got hit by the Independence Day death laser, that's basically the end of Sweden as they know it, as far as they're concerned.
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>>541631156
I'm expecting something they had done earlier get rushed and the. Do some balance fixes and fix sound
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>>541631021
Do you feel badass
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>>541631334
Honestly yeah
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>>541631203
3/4
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>>541631334
scery dog
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>>541631334
You see a nigger like this and then his next post is like diaper shit self shaming
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>>541631254
Again, military vs cultural.
Americas military idea is ingrained into it's people.
While European capitals are to a degree the height of their culture, holding thousands of years of history and culture.
The capital is also often where the royal families reside.
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>>541631203
ded thread
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>>541631973
its Sunday night
Jobdivers need to get in their cage in the morning
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Holy shit if you use mines on illuminate maps you need to get cancer and kill yourself
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all mines only mines squid lobby doko
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>>541632050
It's monday morning, arbeit has started.
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>coyote
>verdict
>incendiary grenades
>ABRL
>Mortar sentry
>orbital airburst
>Eagle cluster strike
Yeah, it's bot diving ti----IS THAT A FUCKING WAR STRIDER???? AIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! MY BUILD VARIETY!!!!!
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Can I get a qrd on the railgun and when to use unsafe mode?
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>>541626158
ggs, I'll run a halo lobby myself tomorrow
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>>541632505
>when to use unsafe mode?
yes
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>>541632505
always
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>>541629545
Still not enough votes, bitches.
https://strawpoll.com/kjn1DdPodyQ
https://strawpoll.com/kjn1DdPodyQ
https://strawpoll.com/kjn1DdPodyQ
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>>541632505
When the vibes are right.
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Using AMR against squids is fucking painful. The floating enemies constantly zooming and changing direction makes them really hard to follow with Alexus' raped ergonomics.
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>>541632505
Always, you get more damage with no downsides.
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Fun Fact: The Robutt weighs 328 lbs
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>>541632491
you could just swap incendiary grenades for thermites and not even be bothered in the slightest. idk why you'd take those for bots anyway
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>>541632505
off the top of my head only hulk eyes are one-shottable on safe mode so you'll want unsafe mode for pretty much all other heavies. that being said you don't need to redline unsafe mode to get the best breakpoints either. most are achievable with around 85% charge level, and the ones that aren't require you to REALLY redline it which just isn't worth the risk as unlike the epoch there is no safety window after reaching full damage before the gun explodes
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>>541632505
Unsafe mode you use to hit certain breakpoints against certain enemies. On a war strider for example, if you can get two fully charged shots on the hip joint, you'll take it down. Also helps chip down base turrets and war striders. Otherwise the majority of the time you only need to charge it to the "safe" level for most targets
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>>541632679
haven't you derailed the thread enough with your mental illness?
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>>541631342
Guess someone has to be having fun around here
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>>541631021
I can't tell if this is more or less cringe than anime girl mods with hair down to her ankles.
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>>541633071
>On a war strider for example
Stopped reading there. No reason to do anything but use an RR. Nice try.
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>>541633071
It's rather amazing how good it is at dealing with warstriders.
There is also no point to use safe mode unless you regularly need 4 seconds to line up a shot.
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>>541633830
What is RR?
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>>541634554
Rest and relaxation.
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>>541634554
Repeat rape, it's what I'm going to do to you for asking so many god damn questions.
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>>541634620
Hows that gonna answer his questions, anon?
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>>541634610
speaking of relaxation, any of you guys enjoy the ambience in this game? Despite the horrendous audio issues in combat, the ambience audio outside of it is bretty good imo, especially the snow and beach planets
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>>541634863
Huh? Did you want some too?
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Good god the Stalwart is such a smelly piece of shit
Gimme something else for squid hordes, any suggestions
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Lobby Doko?
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>the Stalwart is such a smelly piece of shit
bait used to be believable
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>>541634620
Why don't you like them asking questions? Is there something wrong in asking questions? Are you getting angry at them asking questions?
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>>541634875
I sometimes like to just watch the horizon.
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>>541634985
autocannon, flicked to flak, preferably with a team reloading mate
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>>541634875
I like it visually but the weather sounds leave a lot to be desired. Wind should make a cutting sound. Thunder should make my headphones vibrate just a little. etc.
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>>541634985
Saber/axe massacres voteless hordes.
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>>541629782
Imagine not having voice chat disabled
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>>541635132
same, though for me its the volcanoes and stuff, a shame the only beach planet is on squids rn
>>541635337
true dat, I feel like they could so much with the weather especially with snow storms, sand storms, and eruptions. I hope the new biomes they add eventually(lol) will give some more variety
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>>541629782
I'm not in discord with any of you fags nor am I in control of whether some dude is on his mic or not. Why didn't you say shit while you were in the lobby?
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>>541634985
>So stupid he can't even hold M1
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>some silent bob mediocre diver bitching about me using voice comms.
Sorry I do not suffer from crippling lack of social skills. Yapping and shooting the shit while playing has been around for over 25 years since xbox live made it main stream and accessible.
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>>541633830
You can literally EAT or Quasar any square inch of their lower half with either and get a 1-shot kill from any angle. RR is overkill on them. Like most everything else.
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>>541634554
No one else finally gave you some apple sauce so here. Recoiless Rifle. The Queen Bee of anti-armor support strats. With 3,200 damage and AP 6 it can currently punch through pretty much everything besides raid bosses. The funny thing is almost all armored threats have sub-2000 HP in their most vital part. Meaning the EAT-17 and Quasar which do 2,000 damage or the Commando doing 800 can do the same thing if your aim is good. It is not a bad strat. It is very solid in fact but you can achieve much of the same results if you can aim and don't have to give up a back pack. Up to you. None of those choices are wrong. They are simply options.
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>>541635740
Nta but your faggy nasal underage voice is annoying to hear, I always just mute you
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>>541636119
Ok faggot you want a cookie for your efforts?
>always
Considering this is the 3rd lobby I've joined I doubt we've run into each other tubs of fun. How about working on getting more then 100 kills a match you panter. Kill wanking is not in my background but for fucks sake can you pretend to shoot?
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>>541634875
The game can be stunningly beautiful, I sometimes have to stop and admire it mid-mission
There could be more pronounced ambient sounds though, I agree with anon on that
If you have music on there's slight variations to the faction opening theme depending on planet type and it makes quite the difference in how the landscape you suddenly find yourself in feels to take in
Vog-Sojoth will always be my comfort planet
>trudging through blinding, glistening, deep snow as you start to make your way towards the nearest objective or red spot on the map
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo6729gh8o4
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>>541636119
Either nasal underage voice, normal voice but open mic with his entire spanish family setting the table in the background or a deep voice with the thickest eastern european accent.
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>>541636050
the fuck is a raid boss you stupid fucking bitch
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>>541629623
How can human women even compete?
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>>541636472
tremors and steve irwins floating executioner to a lesser extent puppies
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>>541636568
Stingrays are the cool ones, leviathans are the "raid boss".
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>>541636675
Am I testicles or did they give the stringrays the same attack conditions of stalkers? They always seem to catch my ass when I am engaging other squids. They won't attack head on but strike when I am actively focusing fire elsewhere.
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>>541636492
How can bugs, robots or squids even compete?
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>>541636568
nigger how does a map modifier constitute a raid boss it's not a mission objective
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>>541636827
She's got nothing on Charger-chan
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>>541636839
Hivelords are mission objectives though...
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>>541636839
Well it takes us 10-15 minutes of concentrated fire and coordination to take down and can easily wipe entire missions if ignored or underestimated. Cannot be one shot or even solo'd to my knowledge without excessive cheese. I would count that as a raid boss. Since it takes 700x more effort and time then any other single enemy in the game of the same faction.

What would you consider a raid boss if not that?
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>>541630831
>>541631970
Extremely erroneous smoothing out of the absolute state of things. Stepping away from the subjects in question in particular: Most animals are prideful and tribal and little else in those regards. They will hold up their own as the best even if it spits in the face of reality, because they’re irrespective whores to begin with. When reality hits them too hard, they will cope and make shit up, seethe and dilate, with faggotry and fakery, kikery niggertry etc.
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>>541635740
one thing is using voice comms, it's another thing entirely to just never shut the fuck up and babble about basic shit happening constantly and having a one sided conversation in discord over an open mic
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>>541637138
>one sided conversation in discord over an open mic
You seem to have some kind of fixation on a program I do not utilize. Are you well? Besdies what the fuck else would one say in comms? Let's head east and hit those heat spots then go south. Or ignore them and we'll get them on extract. This is just basic coordination.
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>>541636827
>human
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>>541637138
Furthermore you're bitching about this in the thread and creating drama instead of handling it in the lobby. I'm just going to assume you're having a bad day, but sperg out like this again and I'm going to boot you from my future lobbies.
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>>541637013
>Hivelords are mission objectives though...
It depends on how the game is feeling...
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>speculative plot is being confirmed
>factions are being fleshed out slowly but surely
>bugs and performance issues to be patched out soon
It’s happening
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>>541637345
>talking to someone who's not in the lobby
>while referencing events that are happening ingame like explaining weapon choices to them
couldn't be more obvious that you're streaming it to someone
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>>541631021
Got a good scalie model to port?
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There's not a single primary weapon I like...
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>>541637345
Why yap in game when you can just ping and type it out if it's not covered by a ping?
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>Making progress on 5 planets at once, albeit slowly
So this is the power of dispersing the blob...
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>>541637540
Look anon I genuinely do not care enough to start shit here or otherwise. I talk during my dives. More often then not a match that would have been silent suddenly has 1-3 people activating their mics which they usually keep silent. We work together better and get to share a giggle between us. Some become reliable divers I drop with again. Some are just a fun one dive fling. I am not streaming I am talking to (You) and the other 2 assholes on my team.

>>541637726
Get weird and try the plasma pummeler. It is my secret love, especially against bots. Stagger force out the ass so it stun locks devs. Not the faster dead killy tool but it is fun.
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>>541637806
Breaking up theblob is the worst way to take planets though.
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>>541637517
I think you posted in the wrong thread, because none of that shit is ever gonna happen in helldivers 2
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>>541634309
>It's rather amazing how good it is at dealing with warstriders.

3 shots to the tiny ass hip joint with a zero mag scope and a dot that's larger then the joint at most distances isn't good, I just Ultimatum them instead.
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>>541637806
That progress is worse than concentrating it. Look at Fenmire taking an entire month. With the blob you could grab each planet one by one within a day or two and you'll capture 30 planets instead of 5 over said month.
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>>541637982
If you ultimatum them you are close enough that the dot isn't bigger than the joint.
It's also 2 shots.
But if i were as bad as you i would also ultimatum warstriders.
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>>541637806
And of all that "progress," only Vog's will actually stick. Maybe Seyshel as well since it has the highest concentration.
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>>541637982
Ultimatum is a close range panic button. RG still does 3 shots to the entire leg even from across the map, so it may not be optimal vs just RRing the thing, but it still works and you're still able to do everything else the RG is good at, namely deleting devs and scout striders on sight.
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>>541638149
It's only two shots if you have time and aren't getting ragdolled to charge almost all the way, 3 shots with middling charge is easier, safer, and almost as fast with the only downside being 1 extra ammo consumed but you're never hurting for ammo in modern HD2.
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>>541638171
I want to use the ultimatum but can't give up the utility of the grenade pistol. It has been my sidearm for like 90% of play time since release.
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>>541630872
as a general rule:
>heavy armor for bots -- fortified armor passive on any class of armor is even better. iirc light armor with the 50% explosive resistance is just as tanky vs explosions as a default heavy armor set with 150 defense
>medium for squids -- fast enough to outrun them, tanky enough to not get oneshot
>light for bugs -- 90% of their units are melee, so being able to outrun all of them means you get to avoid most of their dmg
there are obvious exceptions, plus you can use anything and make it work if you're good enough
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>>541638256
If you can get 3 shots you can most likely charge up 2 shots.
It's faster and takes less ammo.
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>>541630065
Unironically this
They are subhuman cheaters
Kicked and blocked
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>>541638303
Here's your loadout

Twigsnapper
Choice of Primary
Ultimatum
Thermite
HMG
Supply pack
Sentry of choice
Eagle strafe

You are now the soloGOD and nothing outside of multiple factory striders can truly threaten you
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>>541631156
It will make the game worse. More bugs added, old bugs reintroduced, more instability, bigger filesize
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>>541630831
>Swedes are subhuman and they deserve to be raped by niggers to death
More news at 11
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>>541638385
It's 3 shots for him because he misses one
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>>541638369
Medium unflinching is the GOAT everywhere while also being peak drip.
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>>541638385
Double charging to max not substantially faster while also being much less likely to pull off unless the Strider is alone, and if you fuck up and release one of the two shots early, get flinched, get ragdolled, or whatever, you've now wasted that time and might have just gone for the three shot anyway. Ammo is free, it's literally everywhere on the ground and you never run out unless you're using the RG for everything instead of your primary.
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>>541634875
Too busy dodging war striders in diff 10 to fucking care about the ambiance
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>>541632897
source?
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>>541638303
GP is pretty good on bugs but Ultimatum is like just better on bots and pretty alright on squids since it busts spawners without needing to kill the shield if you are zerging bases down.
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>>541638513
This man has protect gear at home
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>>541638303
>want to use ultimatum
>I have used the senator/talon for ages and have deeply rooted reflexes to swap to my sidearm and headshot any enemy that manages to surprise me up close
I might just stick with the talon.
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>>541636827
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>>541638950
Oh christ what do you do to kill spawners
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>>541637564
No I wouldn't even know where to get one. I just play a scalie in WoW
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>>541637517
Are you daft?
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Illuminate mobs have too much health but don't actually DO anything other than be annoying and clip into floors to smack you
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>>541638513
I would agree if the unflinching aspect actually worked
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>Want to make a gritty if humorous grunt fantasy game
>Accidentally make a kino semi-super-soldier fantasy game
>People love it, game explodes in popularity
>Get mad because they're enjoying it for the Wrong Reason
>Instead of focusing on what made your game popular, ostracize and harass these players out
>Keep Joel employed for some reason so nothing you do matters
>Wonder why nobody wants to play anymore
The swedish, folks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj18JL7Lhr8

What draws talented animators to make fan shorts for this game so good they rival actual trailers that cost millions?
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>>541639309
fleshmobs*
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>>541638431
>solo
it's a team game
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>>541639409
it's mid
>>541639647
not particularly, anymore
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my nasal underage voice is canon though
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>>541639716
Would
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>>541639309
To make them more interesting and dynamic. If you shoot all the heads. The Fleshmob not only dies but explodes. Taking out all the squids arounds them. A rewards for accurate fire and a fun little ba-boom for a job well done. All it would take. Or make knees destructible so we could slow them down or SOMETHING. Other then "fire direct center of mass entire threat ceases". So fucking boring and lazy.
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>>541639409
Powerful graphics cards and 3d modelling software are now in the hands of the consumer and the internet is full of limitless knowledge and step by step tutorials. You can do anything, at least digitally, now. It doesn't even take that much effort or skill. Just time.
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>>541639687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pj4YW0umJ8

Ok watching it again the animations are actually a bit rough however the voice acting was top tier. If you just want animation astro glide its this guy.
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>>541639741
That would be fun and a unique way to blast away the mass of voteless.
I stated in a previous thread that Fleshmobs should bleed with a stacking bleed for every head popped. Because you can literally see exposed ribs and guts when the fleshmobs are damaged.
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>>541639408
>you're the background guys from starship troopers
This is how most people were sold on the game though.
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>Only completing the main objective counts for liberation.
This is all the excuse I needed to play the mission like it's a speed run in every pub I join now. Full clearing got boring as fuck to me anyway. I'll hit up bases, PoIs, and sides if they're on the path to the objective but otherwise FUCK EM. That can be SEAF's fucking problem. Those guys can liberate entire planets without our help, anyway.
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>>541639930
I was sold on 4 player literal drop in co-op with diverse load outs. I used to play Section 8 and Prejudice and fucking LOVE this kind of shit. That was more PvP but still same general premise of spawning and objective based gameplay around flexible player options.
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>>541639813
>that fluid sim
this guy makes porn as a side hustle
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>>541640023
>caring about liberation points
anon you're too old to still believe in fairy tales like the galactic war mattering
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>>541639930
Most people were sold on it being a functional game where your choices mattered.
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>>541640230
every artist makes porn as a side hustle
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>>541637517
WTF I love sweden now!?
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alright so we can all agree gear checks are bad because they limit player choice and force narrow metas and that's boring, and if you ever get caught out without that gear you're just fucked

can't make heavier/more armoured version of enemies because that's an AP/AT gear check
can't make more enemies spawn because the engine can't handle it and that's a gear check for good AoE or ammo efficient weapons
can't just increase the health of enemies because that's a gear check for high DPS/ammo efficient weapons and just overbloating HP is the worst way to make something harder
can't make enemies more accurate and do more damage because nobody likes getting one shot out of nowhere
so how do you increase the difficulty?
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>>541640856
Bugs are faster and you can no longer casually jog away from them
Bots aim properly again forcing you to use cover
I dunno about squids
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>>541640856
Oh just shut the fuck up. There are 16 stratagems between your squad. Figure it the fuck out retard.
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>>541640370
>where your choices mattered
No way anyone is retarded enough to have bought a multiplayer game over choice mattering.
Imagine playing CoD and getting upset you don't get to make choices that impact the narrative.
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>>541640856
reduce stim count
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>>541640856
>I want to play 4 scouts in drg
>No I don't wanna take anti chaff in dark tide
>Bruh I'm not taking the shotgun for witches

See
>>541640983
Unironic team game
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>>541641115
I swear to christ the solodiver mindrot bug has infected half the base. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A ONE MAN ARMY. IF YOU ARE YOU'RE A SHITTY ARMY IN ALL RESPECTS
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>>541641247
It's that huge faggot youtuber ohdough pushing this solodiver mindset bullshit, he's been doing since day 1
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>>541641054
CoD's server browser isn't skinned as a Galactic Map with zones that can be occupied by enemy forces and attacked by the players.
Though I think comparing a PvP game to a PvE game isn't the best idea. Amd CoD doesn't actually have a server browser anymore. And Helldiver's server browser selection is dependant on-
Goddammit.
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>>541641247
you're blaming the players for the failures of the developer. There is not nor has there ever been any incentive to work as a team
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>>541640856
make the weakspots smaller or harder to hit, but retain the same AP breakpoints, make the enemy actually deadlier, make the enemy more mobile
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>>541641061
sorry but reducing player resources just creates a siege ready, med-kit, and supply pack gear check
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>>541641054
it was a literal selling point that player interaction affected the narrative. they keep saying it too.
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>>541641358
Deep rock galactic then?
Same ish server browser, has a sort of narrative, choice matters goes no further than gear selection and how you do things in game.
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>>541641480
split supply pack into an ammo and med pack
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>>541640590
Kek
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>>541641639
How about stop playing his retarded ass devolving false logic game where only he can win?
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>>541641546
Do you get tricked by the "you will cum in 5 seconds of playing this" ads aswell?
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>>541641557
Never played Deep Rock.
I was more so commenting on
>No way anyone is retarded enough to have bought a multiplayer game over choice mattering.
And joking about how I was one of the retards, having played the first game where the player choices did actually determine the narrative of all those wars, so seeing how it would play out in the sequel was one of the reasons I bought it. Even if the wars in the first game mostly played out the same way every time.
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>>541640856
The game was the most fun when it spammed enemies at you like when patrols were bugged or when the old Spread Democracy missions were nothing but constant drops. It was also more stable back then too, somehow, aside from bots hard crashing lobbies after 1500 kills
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>>541641798
not everything has to do with porn, porn addict
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>>541641247
My headcanon is solodivers are helldivers that are an odd number that can't be with a 4 man fire team so they have no choice but to send 1 asshole far away alone
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>>541640856
The real answer is more chaff units and smarter enemy Ai.
You probably see the problem.
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>>541641798
>Yeah the developers just lie to people to make them waste money on the game, so what?
Actually kill yourself, shill.
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>Try out the laser dog
>Keeps taking chunks out of me when I do anything other than stand still

Why is getting FF'd by your own drones even a feature? For that matter, why do stratagem beacons stick to your own bubble shield?
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>>541642131
>game advertised as being a grunt in a huge war
>WHAAAAT! WHY CAN'T I LIBERATE ENTIRE PLANETS ON MY OWN!! I WANT TO BE LIKE HALOMAN!!!
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>Should HELLDIVERS 2 continue to optimize for mechanical HDDs?
>This is the six-million-dollar question
what did they mean by this?
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>>541642195
because funni (for me, not you)
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>>541642680
>six-million
oddly specific number
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>>541642680
>We don't want to do any work, so we're going to pretend like it's fine as it is and ignore it
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>>541642195
As long as you don't try to climb or increase elevation, it doesn't really friendly fire you all that often. Though of course, the Gun Dog is much better since it takes less time to kill enemies and thus the risk to you is lower.
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>>541642421
kys gucci
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The easiest solution to gear checks is simply to tell you which enemy you'll be facing, instead of being forced into being a swiss army knife to counter all possible enemies you might encounter you can actually specialize for whatever is down there
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Why is the Dagger so fucking shit
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>>541640856
Subfactions and have always been the way to properly increase difficulty.
No one cares that you have to specialize for a subfaction because that is the entire point of them. Expecting your players to specialize against what you are creating lets you really push hard with the extra traits you give enemies.
Predator Hunters would be a cancer if they were just added as normal enemies but they feel fine amongst the Predator Strain. Same with Firebomber Hulks and Rupture Spewers.
My issue is that they seem to want to permanently expand the default roster with faction-level redefining enemies. The clearest example of this is War Striders on the bot front. Now you have people bringing AMRs and ACs along with EATs because War Striders are too much of a hassle.

Dragon Roaches are another POSSIBLE example. I have no idea what their plans for them are, maybe they will ultimately be assigned to a Hivelord specific subfaction/roaming boss-fleet thingamajig.
IF they are added to the bug roster they will be a plague in their current state. I guarantee you will see some form of rockets brought by every player, every time. They are simply too much of a threat to leave alive for more than 10 seconds.

I'd say this trend really started with Fleshmobs. When they were released the already good support weapon type, machine guns, were used in the lobbies I was in almost EXCUSIVELY.
I'm not focusing on the highest level of play by the way. You can bring a lot to Illuminate and succeed, since they are still a pretty weak faction, but the average player will have a terrible time trying to make LC or Flamethrower work against them. Both of which I've seen being used prior to Fleshmob's introduction.

Whatever. I hope my scream into the abyss at least resonated with someone.
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>>541642195
As much as the addiction to funny friendly fire accidents is overplayed, being able to die by your own armaments is a good feature. I just wish that dogs hovered either straight above or slightly in front of you so that they wouldn't be so predisposed to blowing your head off.
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>>541643217
This would be such a good addition it's insane.
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>>541643243
>I hope my scream into the abyss at least resonated with someone.
Your post mattered to me.
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>>541643243
>No one cares that you have to specialize for a subfaction because that is the entire point of them
I don't know man there was a A LOT of whining about digger warriors having more armour on them than regular warriors
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>>541643243
LC is still pretty strong for squids if you bring the Eruptor or something to deal with fleshmobs. But war striders have made it way worse for bots.
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>>541643243
>IF they are added to the bug roster they will be a plague in their current state. I guarantee you will see some form of rockets brought by every player, every time. They are simply too much of a threat to leave alive for more than 10 seconds.
it will make everyone bring ORC for them, just like it was in Oshaune and the other planet they were on
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>>541643582
My main complaint with diggers was burrowing made them immune to everything but explosive.
But my solution to this was to stop playing them and the few times i did, bringing explosive stuff.
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>use my spear to kill 2 factory striders
>need ammo
>see an ammo box ahead
>nigger with a supply backpack runs up to it and picks it up
>doesn't refill my ammo
>probably abusing the infinite ammo glitch and still picked it up
I should have just killed him.
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>>541643931
I almost exclusivly bring suply pack to load up spear gods.
I love watching the spear go.
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>>541643931
standard operating procedure is to gun down anyone who takes more than 1 unless they ask for permission to take 2. DRG taught you this man, c'mon.
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>>541643931
>>use my spear to kill 2 factory striders
stopped reading right there, i can already tell this didn't happen
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>>541644058
I think he is talking about the POI boxes for just ammo, not the resuply pod.
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>>541643237
it's good for running & gunning voteless
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>>541643431
I appreciate this. Thanks.

>>541643582
Diggers are odd. They can't outrun you, but can almost always get close. I think the extra armor is a way to incentivize using explosives even more, med pen can't pull them to the surface. Guaranteed spewers helps too.
Some people complain way too soon before trying things out though. Not much you can do about that. A tidal wave of people bitched about Predators when they released. Now you'd just look stupid complaining.

Oshaune is pretty dogshit though, which is where the diggers were released. As in the map itself. Fuckin mud and water everywhere slowing you down permanently, I prefer the caves to the outside.



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