tub edition, no jon>poo2 news0.3.1 sucks ass>poo1 news3.27 maybe in november previous thread: >>541578521
FIRST FOR BIG SHIT
caught my sister taking a shit in the tub
>>541671207is she single?
no loot type shit game
>>541670871DOG SHIT OF EXILE 2NO CONTENT OF EXILE 2NO DRUID OF EXILE 2
>>541671249no but were in an open relationship
Game honestly sucks
I just want to see one more ritual before I pack it up this season bros
Why don't map bosses have guaranteed waystone drops anymore?
>>541671495sorry bro NZ long weekend (GGG took the whole month off)
This pack size change blows
>Area has 400% increased chance to contain essences>Area contains zero essences
>>541672487A 400% increase from 0 is still 0.You are most welcome.
>>541671681retard
and lewd mods yet?and coomer skins yet?only thing thats holding me back from playing poo2
>>541670871Where did the brown man go?What prompted this change?
>>541672818they are planning to add an adoption system where you can hire a female mercenary but you can also take care of her in your hideout including a cooking and a breeding system mocapped by jonathan that produces more mercenaries, it will be kvno
some BODY once told me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOp3jcsEBHUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h4FsMcihYUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcFLnJru55M
>/v/ is laughing at us again
Everyone is laughing at you retard.
>>541672487you need the boss tablets with +1 essence monster. looking at current trade prices that will be 3d + tip every 10 maps. enjoy.
>he is a jingakh
When does heist become profitable?
>>541675221He's the biggest doomer in the community but that doesn't mean he's wrong.
I've been having a blast with 1 to be desu with you. Cant believe I never tried it, I just thought POE2 must be the better, newer and shiner version, but it ain't.I just got Vaals Absolution and I've got the big nigger zapping everything in sight. It's dope.I just found out support gems can support multiple skills on the same link, fuck yeahThe passives I'm getting actually feel impactful unlike with 2, maybe it's because I need to get defenses rather than just roll around during fights.Dunno, maybe POE2 will get on 1's level eventually but for now iI got a few thousand hours of catchup to do. I don't even think it beats 1 yet on music and atmosphere, and that's one of the biggest selling points no?Sorry for blog-post, lurker here but been a while since I've enjoyed a new game (new to me that is)POO2SISTERS OUR RESPONSE??!?! WE ARE GETTING FUCKING DESTROYED OUT THERE
>he plays heist
>>541675696doomers are right, actually
>>541675794advocate for the abortion of the poo2 project
>>541675794cute honeymooner
>>541675694tailoring and tempering orbs are expensive as fuck and you get one of each every 20 wings on averagethat + chaos / exalt / divine (and whatever currency stack is worth your time) is more than enough consistent income for heist to be reasonably profitable even if you dont get the big boy dropsmake sure to run deception contracts and reveal all wings, its worth it
>>541676247when does heist become fun?never
>>541675794DELETE THIS! We can't afford PoE2babs conquering their fear of "bad graphics" and realizing that PoE1 is the superior game, DELETE THIS NOW, Jonathan can't afford this level of stress, his heart is at the limit of acceptable!
>>541675696i just don't care, i played poe1 for too long to take any of this shit seriously.
>>541676342Vinderi, detonate this man's nuts
the POOP problem
>>541676342when you get 600% increased movement speed
>>541673354he dove into the tub to try and fix the 0.3.1 clog
>>541676536on the list of things that would keep a new player from getting into poe 1, graphics would have to be pretty low on the list.
How would I go about cheaply crafting a physical prophecy wand in SSF? Not even all T1s but even T4s would be an upgrade over my current wand. I'm feeling the slow down in damage in T11s and mercenaries are taking forever to kill on my ps miner occultist. Also no access to high ilvl prophecy wands at the moment.
where did this dynamic trio go? where did it all turn to shit?
>>541678570I don't like how sleazy Jonathan looks here but I suppose that's better than how he looks now
>>541678570I don't even know who that is in the middle, it doesn't look like mark
>>541678758newfag poo2rist
>>541678739He looks like a character in the matrix who stabs you in the back and sides with the robots
>>541678570erik really was the sovl of GGG
Hi /poeg/, tourist hereSome sources say that both poes are objectively among the worst games ever made, and that people play them because they spend their live savings into supporter packs and they voluntarily sunk cost it to convince themselves to play the game.That true?
>>541678570i love how awkward chris looks here
>>541678518recomb flat phys with hybrid phys, then try to unveil %physbut also maybe dont play ps minesand also maybe double check if you really want a phys wand
>>541678570it went wrong for erik when got promoted past his level of comfort and quit because he ended up as a manager.it went wrong for chris when got consumed with running and growing the company, after a few years he lost touch with the game and eventually retired.jonathan was always balls deep so nothing changed for him.
>>541679350jonathan was always retarded and both chris and erik wrangled the tard, now that they are gone he is running rampant on poo2
>>541679107ESL doompost #238706
>>541679350Jonathan is just a retard code monkey that is good at implementing other people's ideas but has horrible ideas on his own
>>541679441>>541679549cope
>>541679107just wait for Freshcool RPG to come out, its from (some of) the original d2 devs!
>>541679549fact bomb
>>541675794enjoy the honeymoon while it lastssooner or later you'll become a div/hr krok-addict
>>541680060nothing wrong with loving to progress
You can not ever satisfy things for them, because the problem is not with the game, it is with their mindset. They will always have this issue - in one way or another - no matter what, as long as there isn't a deterministically clear-cut method to achieve 100% optimal lever-pulling juice-effectiveness and simulate a brain-off casino while doing it.Most of them do not play poe2 to build strong characters and feel satisfaction from leveling up and defeating content, they play loot casino simulator and satisfaction is measured in div/hr. Any response to their "criticisms" that makes it a) harder to pull a lever or b) pulling a lever not as juicy or c) harder to make pulling a lever juicy, is a step in the wrong direction for them.Since most of them copy builds and do not 100% understand the way their offense or defense works in the first place, there's no "this is what must be done to deal with this" function that occurs in their mind. It is a "I traded 200 divines for this gear for this build and I deserve to sit at the juice-bar in the click-casino". The rationalization is incapable of going beyond that because the necessary prerequisite knowledge and understanding of the game mechanics required to do so does not exist. So instead of engaging any problem-solving mechanisms, they just feel bad.SOME people will try to solve the problem. This is not most people. Unfortunately, the complainers also depend on the problem solvers, because they don't have either the skill, patience, or desire (or all of the above) to solve anything themselves. They are just complainers.All they really understand is "brain feel the bad feel right now", and sometimes this is due to legitimate balance and game issues. Sometimes it's completely understandable that their online displays of irritation show similarities to the irritability and emotional dysregulation associated with withdrawal symptoms. Hard to pick out the noise from the meaningful feedback.
>>541679549idk if you read old interviews and look at the first few years of the company, it was basically all jonathan. chris was a businessman who wanted to capitalize on the underserved arpg market post-d2, erik was just a fresh faced artist who was looking for a job. it's kino to tub poopoo post constantly, but it is what it is. both games would be fucked right now if he retired.
>>541680543what happened to jonatroon to make him so shit at game design between then and now hoeh?
>>541680618Ego. He struck gold and said "I can do better", when that is clearly wrong
>>541680684many such cases
>>541680513didnt read but trvke
THERMONUCULAR TRUKKAGEDDON
>>541680513>Since most of them copy builds and do not 100% understandI actually saw someone on forum complaining that a youtube build he copied didn't work at high endgame and calling them a scammer.
>>541680543hwo do you account for poe2's complete bastardization of the skill and support gem systems, itemization systems, and passive tree?Were they mistakes? Or does jonathan think these are all good ideas working as intended?
>>541680618i've said it a couple of times since seeing poo2 in 2019: jonathan is having his midlife crisis. in fact, i think chris is also having a midlife crisis, but he is dealing with it in a better way than designing rollslop, then trying to force it on the masses.
poe one won
>>541680951>XP lost on deathDidn't D2 also have that? Also the bottom points are something that D2 didn't need to worry. What a weird post.
announcement today
>>541680990Woodful is at a point where he thinks anything he made pre-poo2 was a mistake, and is on a crusade to correct these mistakes in his new game: Poop of Excrement 2.
>>541681273EoS announcement, yeahall hands on deck for the december 19th release of 0.4
>>541680513This is all GGG's fault by the way. They conditioned the playerbase to desire currency above all else by removing any semblance of deterministic progress from the game. They began doing this in poe1 with 3.15 and have continued the treadmill itemization trend there and in poe2 amplified it 10-fold. Items in poe2 are nearly completely worthless, and uniques are no better. There are almost no deterministic upgrades, both games suffer from a lack of actual content and in its' place is a currency grind system meant to waste your time for the things you actually want in exchange.
>>541680618you are just a mentally unwell doomer, 3 years ago you would have been spamming BRF endlessly, chris is gone so you obsess over jonathan.
>>541681383I miss bfr now. I wish i knew that the BFR times were the good old times...
>>541679330Yeah, I was going to do recombinator but I have to unveil? Never did veiled crafting but doesn't that require veiled chaos? That would take me forever to farm. Syndicate mobs are also super tanky.Can't switch at this point and I wanted to play ps mines just until 115 atlas points.Yeah, I want a physical wand for an eventual hatred switch so I can use the 15% more cold and be a little more on theme. I guess I could craft a lightning wand if you think that would be easier until I get access to more/better resources.
>>541680990everyone praised the removal of sockets from gear when it was revealed. and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the games itemization, it's virtually identical to poe1s with some exceptions and qol. the passive tree is like poe1 as well, it will forever be in a state of flux.
>>541681667I was sceptical from day 1, maybe not on here, because when i was happy i didn't post here. But damn, just think about it, you go from 1, maximum 2 6-links to what they proposed than at 9 or so.What you gonna do with 9 6-links, if not combo? Fuck combing.
Sorry folks the endgame rework is taking longer than expected so we havent been able to properly move devs over yet for 3.27
>>541681667>the passive tree is like poe1 as wellthe tree, maybe. but the things that are on the tree are night and day different, poo2 has trash on the tree, as well as ANY UPSIDE NEEDS A DOWNSIDE mindset
>>541681667>itemization is like poe1>passive tree is like poe1this immediately outs you as completely retarded btw
>>541681383Incorrect.I thought Archnemesis was a good change.
BALDFUCKINGFRAUD
>>541682062He's not wrong:Items both have 3 prefixes, 3 suffixes and sometimes an implicit in both games, and the mods have different tiersThe tree is huge and has Highways, attributes, small nodes, noteables and keystones, as well as sockets.They're both the same, wake up sheeple
>>541681972poe2s tree is unironically superior to poe1s
>>541681330eos should be a joint poe1 poe2 league where poe2 players portal back in time to poe1 and destroy everything (ignore the time paradox bullshit)
>>541680951diablo had xp loss, die zoomie
>>541682062poe1 and 2 have pretty similar itemization. after a few years poe1 added more affixes to the mod pool with endgame expansions, if thats what has you upset they already added more mods to the pool and it's not even 0.4, obviously more will follow.
why is power creep already so bad/high in closed beta? do these dudes not have calculators?
>>541682808He's advocating for evolving beyond what d2 had
>>541682264>missing the forest for the treesCan't tell if this is just sophistry, or you are intentionally being obtuse. Itemization in poe2 accounts for a vast amount of character power while the tree almost provides none. The rolls for HP, mana, are massive. There are a shit ton of +levels, +levels on jewels slots and on the passive tree such that +levels become the primary way to scale a ton of skills. This comes at the cost of other meaningful progression pathways like cast speed, spell damage, etc, which are scarce on the tree, and scarcely on powerful uniques. Almost all of that rests with the itemization. The tree has half attributes while also gems require higher attr even after the nerfs. the tree is node sparse, requires more travel, and has less useful nodes with some really shit nodes taking up the majority of space. You are arguing about the form the tree and the items take rather than substance. Try arguing in good faith
>>541683004Is it really evolving though? D2 had exp loss so that people would actually fear dying.
>>541682927no one at GGG plays the game anymore. they are endless two or three abstractions away from reality
>>541681127we need to save himWAKE UP TROONATHAN!!
>>541682923im not talking about the general item affixes, I'm talking about the particulars of itemization and how it interacts with your character.The both of you are being deliberately obtuse
i work 10 hours a day at my job. xp loss should not exist.
surprised we haven't seen the local jeets shit out mass poe2 soraslop
you should lose your character on death
>>541683140I was being facetious, I realize that anything poe1 got right got fucked up just because the grey goblin couldn't admit he got it right the first time
>>541683140>Itemization in poe2 accounts for a vast amount of character power while the tree almost provides none.how is that any different from poe1? poe has always been about power from items, from the very beginning. they literally named the company grinding gear games.there is also a very old interview with chris where he is joking about any time someone thinks of something cool the first question is 'how can we itemize that?'
>>541683307>the particulars of itemization and how it interacts with your character.what the fuck does that even mean? give an example instead of moving the goalpost with vague posting.
>>541683308People will say "don't die scrub" but then when it happens I don't even know what it was most of the time, or it happened so unexpectedly fast I couldn't do anything. Noob question, do people invest in defenses on passive tree or is it generally just as much offense as possible to kill stuff before they kill you? Because I invest in defence and still die sometimes.>>541683513Thats called hardcore mode, people can choose that or not.
>>541683686poe2 not having any ele res on tree is already going to be a big deal once the affix slots on gear expands with different influences or whatever they decide to go with
>>541683852Almost anything you get on gear is also on the tree in poe1 and you can mix and match to fix gearing holes like resistance with the tree. You can't do that in poo2
>>541683686>how is that any different than poe1?Poe1 has in recent years taken on this treadmill design, but it didn't used to. You used to be able to slap on a quill rain and beat the game with ele hit/explosive arrow, etc. All kinds of useful fun builds that were deemed "too excessible" by jonatroon were deleted in favor of rampant powercreep. I had hope that interesting unique interactions and niche builds would make a comeback in 2, but it looks to be a continuation of the latter years of poe1s treadmill number slop. This game turned itself into d3
uh why bald man leave?
>>541683852I gave specific examples in my prior post? The number of plus levels you can get from gear, +3 levels on a jewel slot, the % damage increase gained from levels and massive damage multiplers on skills. These are all vastly larger than in poe1, while the tree has smaller % increases, smaller total strong nodes and notables, and a lot of fluff. I couldn't possiblly be more explicit than i am, if you fail to understand this, it's your issue
>>541676342heist becomes fun when you start hitting those big blueprint jackpots then stops being fun when you realize it's most efficient to just buy and run 1 wing blueprints forever
>>541684342>too excessibleim retarded, accessible
>>541684459Chinese man say "do this or else"Bald man say "NO"Jonatroon say "OK me do"Maybe?
>>541684995Probably the reason we got two games instead of one.
>>541684342it actually was like that, almost from the very beginning. the difference is the player, people used to be happy to farm white or yellow maps all league. most people didn't farm endgame content, they couldn't really afford to. people picked one of the low tier meta builds and ran around for a few weeks in a 5link and quit.
How is 0.3.1 still in the state that its in
>>541684995I hate the chinks as much as the next anon but tencent is known to not interfere
>>541685165No it wasn't. People didn't NEED to grind for tailwind boots but they could. You could complete all content without crafting a thing if you bought a 6 link. You could put together a fun meme build with a few key uniques. None of that player creativity exists in poe2. It has all been stripped away for number crept itemization and shoehorned skills that are meant to be shit so you cant main them
>>541685424new zealand october harvest holiday
anime
>>541685424you're seriously expecting GGG to work during their halloween vacation???
>>541685565POGG BOYS
>>541684580>buy and run 1 wing blueprints foreveris it though? you can run like 100 deceptions an hour i guess it depends on bp pricesnot that running contracts is fun anyway
>>541685565TRVKE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOp3jcsEBHU
>>541684549oh interesting the exact ratio of power on tree vs power on items is perfect in poe1 for reasons you cant describe and is terrible in poe2 for reasons you cant describe, and also poe2 forces you to play certain builds, and also poe2 is too easy and isnt demanding enough.
>>541685778yes, the heist meta is just to spam 1 wing blueprints and hope you hit experimented jewellery
>>541685565
>>541685970I in fact, did not state any of that. So good of you to strawman my position so you could win in an argument with yourself
>>541685525>You could put together a fun meme build with a few key uniques.and those builds were/are shit unless you dumped a ton of currency into them. the fact that you still have boss killing services proves this point, because even a lot of meta builds are shit for all content until they are very well geared. gear has always been the limiting factor because that is the way the game was designed.
Does the beast poep
>>541686305what do you think skill gems are
>>541686414we were indians all along..
the big shit in the tub PROBLEMis RUININGpath of exile TWO
>>541686237yeah you're just being completely disengenuous at this point refusing to see the point I'm making and not arguing the particulars I laid out from +levels, to skill multipliers, to passive tree nodes being weaker. You just want to stick your head in the sand and go "items in poe1 were strong too!!!" without addressing degree
>>541686506nyo.....
>>541676342the fun of heist is the npc voicelines
>>541685565Fourfour is a whore
>>541686127whether you run contracts or not has nothing to do with whats at the end of the winga blueprint costs a certain amounta deception contract costs a certain amount, takes some time to run (depends on you) and effectively gives you 2.1 blueprintsif those 2.1 blueprints minus the cost of the deception contract are worth more than you would expect to make running blueprints for the same amount of time, its more efficient to run the contracts and reveal all your blueprintsi would assume the costs balance out so that theres either no difference or that contracts are slightly more efficient because its boring, unless its so late in the league that nobody has contracts on his filter
>>541686947where for BCC yes
3.27 announcement this week yes?
>>541686131
>>541687231
>>541687365AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>541687231Nobody knows
>>541687231teaser in 1 hour
it's fall bros im gonna touch leaves
>>541687526Hope they're crispy.
>>541686528because the scaling in poe1 and 2 are different. getting +levels in poe1 is trivial, it has been for a very long time. poe1 +levels scale better for some skills so it's not the be all end all for every build, that being said some of the most expensive items in the game are +levels, simplex and awakened empower for example. the poe1 passive tree has been rendered null and void for most builds because you can't beat the value per point from cluster jewels, so i feel like that is a moot point.getting +levels is also pretty trivial to get in poe2, the tradeoff is the obscene mana cost, so you balance between power and sustainability. poe2s passive tree is currently missing half of the shit it should have so there is no surprise it feels underwhelming, even in its current state it offers a good mix of power and utility.
>>541687231of course bro, ggg would never blatantly lie right to our faces
>>541687231it's already Saturday in NZ bro ;_;
>>541687752>the poe1 passive tree has been rendered null and void for most builds because you can't beat the value per point from cluster jewels, so i feel like that is a moot point.that only applies to builds that autistically stack something and even then there are many wheels that are just better than points in a perfect cluster jewel. they are really not that good and theres a reason the average poe build only has 1 or 2 large clusters
I wish they would EOS poe1 and do more faster on poe2. Got to wait ages for anything to change or be added because of time spent on some crusty old dead game
check this 1, the only poe that matters
>>541688420>0
>>541688383At this point I'd accept EOS of either game. Both are sorely lacking care
0-4 poo15-9 poo2
>Watching youtuber on heist>youtuber just scours grand heists because he claims that the money drops aren't affected by map quant/qualis that fucking real? I seem to be getting nothing but the same shitty 4 uniques running scoured maps
>>541688862yeah
>>541687752poe1 passive tree is superlative for scaling until end game. That's the point. You get good points while leveling, early power, and then later clusters can take its' place or supplement it. You are again acting disengenuous in pretending no one uses the tree at all or every build is a multi-cluster build which is just not true. The degree to which people circle the tree in 2, and rely on item scaling is much more severe>the scaling in 2 is differenthence my points of contention
>>541689207i clicked on the first five builds on this pagehttps://poe.ninja/builds/mercenariesit looks like all travel nodes on the outside of the tree to me, what am I missing?
>poe1 tree is vastly superior to poe2!!!>open average pooshit build>its all clusters
>>541689207charges and clusters
what was the last poo mechanic that was actually fun?
All you need to know about GGG's retardation and purposely making the game unfun and tedious is how often they went back and made skills like chain lightning and sunder unusable because "too many" people were using them to level.Fuck they even removed the ability to buy +skill wands while leveling and patched out ANY way to skip parts of the campaign people had already run though a 100 times.
>>541689748and this is supposed to make me think bad about them... in what way exactly?
>>541689745I unironically liked idols but they definitely needed more time to cook
>starts league with LA/LR titan>rerolls deadeye today>she needs 1/10 of titan's investment to be equally effectiveYeah this is bullshit.
>>541689852cant make idols wait too long lest they no longer are minor
>>541689207to add some numbers on thisa +3 spells amulet in poe2 (literally just the mod and nothing else) gives ~50% more dps to just the skill and even more when you consider that it also buffs curses and other shita single point on the tree for a level 90 caster gives ~2% more dpsin poe1 the mod is +1 and gives ~10-12% more dps for most spellsa single point on the tree for a level 90 caster is ~4-5% more dpsthe difference is pretty obvious
Has anyone here leveled a caster on SSF (or without trading too much early) that wasn't EDC, and had a good time?I leveled several caster builds (admittedly shit improv builds) and it was always total disaster compared to attack builds, and then it remained a disaster even when I bought items to boost them, so I'm trying to find out what works and feels good. I'm sure it can't be that bad when there are so many bloodmages.
>>541689961i dont understand, do they have different gear requirements?
I wish they would EOS poe2 and do more faster on poe1. Got to wait ages for anything to change or be added because of time spent on some shitty new dead game
>>541689549https://poe.ninja/builds/mercenaries/character/cutiechuchu-6132/TILTED_SPECTRE_KEEP_DIE1 clusterthe outside is just good to travel on, thats where most good wheels are and 2 point jewel socket + max charges. idk why its so much better than inside pathing but yeah
>>541690104LA/LR build really needs additional arrow for fast clear and bossing dps. The difference between 2 and 3 arrows or 3 and 4 arrows is gigantic.2 bows with similar dps but if one bow fires 1 more arrow, it costs many times more. Eg you can get a 500 dps dual string for 10 divs but if that bow has an explicit "fire 1 additional arrow", it will cost 50 divs.
>>541690395are you also mad that titan stacks armor more efficiently than deadeye does?
>>541690521Yeah I'm also glad your mom will be a better whore than you will ever be.
>>54168966220 points out of 120 is not "all clusters"
why does every arpg fall into the same trap of "oops we made healing to full super trivial so now the only way to make things challenging is adding oneshots"
Starting as a Contagion+Essence Drain sucks so much. Not enough monster density in the campaign so you're stuck spamming Contagion. Should have just stuck with minion leveling then switch later. Or spark.
>>541690913cope
>>541690367that one cluster jewel accounts for 10% of that builds passive skill points.there is a reason ggg have said countless times that clusters were a mistake.
>>541690395>LA/LR build really needs additional arrow>bossing dpsadditional arrows don't do anything for bossing, your "gigantic" difference is using rods 5 times instead of 7, and if you have fast attack speed it's fucking nothing retard
>>541690395retard
>>541690913Include the travel points, you disingenuous nerd.
>>541691065>that one cluster jewel accounts for 10% of that builds passive skill pointsok and?>there is a reason ggg have said countless times that clusters were a mistake.which is?
>>541689549first character on your list>what am i missingthis is what
Clusters are good actually
half an hour till the announcement
>>541691602I agree
>>541691602retard
>>541691074retard
>>541691434not every cluster has 12 points clicked
>>541691602There should just be a cap of one really. And there's probably some Notable that bumps it up to two but you need to spend 5 points to get it.
>>541691602I find them very boring
>>541691436>which is?well for that build every single node on the cluster jewel gives>+13.5 max life>+6.75% chaos res>+4% inc minion attack speed>+13.5% inc minion damagelittle too op.
>>541689714you dont know what that heat map even means. It also has life and mana, reservation efficiciency, regent, keystones, mark mastery, suppression wheels, projectile wheel, armor nodes, crit damage nodes, accuracy nodes, leech nodes, and int stacking nodes all being highlighted.The thing about you disengenuous retards making these arguments is, you are bad at it. You clearly don't understand the game or how builds are made. So you completely misunderstand what you are looking at. If you were to take any build in poe1, it necessitates pathing from starting node to outside to get to key notables. Thats why the highways are highlighted, because everyone takes those nodes out of necessity. The good, nuanced, and build defining stuff is all located along those highways, and all different for each build, which is why you don't see those highlighted as significantly - because it fucking varies.
>>541691849cope
>>541691639Announcement of what?
none of the retards itt complaining about clusters have ever opened pob and looked at how efficient they actually are compared to points on the treenot a single onea lot of builds could easily reach 3 clusters but they dont because its just not worth it and a decent amount only have a single one
>>541691837i actually outlined why its not with specific math. Clusters are a good chunk of power but they are less power than you are claiming. see >>541691513
>>541692007the announcement
>>541692007EOS
>>541687231OH NO NO NO NO
>>541692008cope
>>541691849i'm not understanding how its bad when poe2 paths on the outside of the tree and good when poe1 does it
i embarassed myself by talking about something im clueless about so im just going to reply to every post with "cope" because i cant refute their points, that will convince everyone that i won the argument
Clusters of turds in a bathtub
REALTUBSHIT
behold the ideal heatmap
*installs modded d2*
uh... jonathan?
>>541692249Woah thats literally my build
>>541692113because people in poe2 path all along the outside of the tree to grab nothing. Nothing at all, just jewel sockets. In poe1 you still grab nodes, notables and keystones, etc. There are very few builds in poe1 that prioritize pathing to every outer cluster jewel it just isnt done that frequently. Again, if you think that heat map is showing that, you're an idiot. What it's actually showing is that each area of the passive tree on the outer ring is equally valued. Meaning people are making builds in all sectors of the tree. It has nothing to do with them only taking travel nodesPoe2 has builds that only take travel nodes and like 1 or 2 clusters. It's fucking retarded.
>>541692249almost every single green node is movement speed btw, there's no reason for such a large passive tree when the optimal choices are so obviousbreadth of an ocean with the depth of a bathtub
>>541692113in poe2 you path like that almost exclusively for jewel sockets, in poe1 its for wheels on the tree and jewel sockets
>>541692398wtf mine too, what are the odds?
>>541692249Woah that literally all my builds this game
i'm gonan fuckin cum inside witch
>>541692249>movement speed>crit>energy shieldthis is legit 90% of the non travel nodes.
>>541692249What does it look like without Deadeye and Blood Mage?
>>541692249notice the complete lack of any respresentation on the left side of the tree and the near complete lack of anyone using anything other than crit.This game is fucking retarded.
>>541692427TRVTH DETONATIVN
>>541692008retard
this game has been in development for 6 years, it won't get betterearly days of poe1 had more depth and endgame content
>>541692092What the fuck is this creature? So cute
>Hi , Jonathan Rogers, game director at Grinding Gear Games.>I want to talk to you about Path of Exile’s upcoming 3.27 expansion, or rather, the lack of one. After a lot of internal discussion, we’ve decided to indefinitely delay 3.27 to focus our entire development team on Path of Exile 2.>This wasn’t an easy decision. We know many of you were looking forward to the next league cycle, but at this stage, we believe dividing our attention between two major projects is holding both back. Path of Exile 2 is shaping up to be something truly special, and it deserves our full focus to meet the standard we’ve set for ourselves, and that you expect from us.>In the meantime, the existing game will remain fully playable, and we’ll continue maintaining servers, balance tweaks, and bug fixes. But major new content will be paused until further notice.>We’ll share more about Path of Exile 2’s development progress soon, including an extensive overhaul of the 0.3.1 patch, teasers for the new character classes and an update for the new release schedule of 0.4 and beyond. Thank you for your patience and continued support, it means the world to us.
>>541692634Cause Poe1 looks like a flash game or some shit, whereas Poe2 has high quality graphics and animations that require time to cook.
>>541692092>>541692735>blob with homophobiaGross
https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1894563322252726576IT'S UPhttps://x.com/pathofexile/status/1894563322252726576IT'S UPhttps://x.com/pathofexile/status/1894563322252726576IT'S UP
>>541692741It's real....
>>541692585let's play spot the difference
>>541692735>>541692812literal me
>>541692741I would cry tears of happiness if that happened.
3.27 would have already happened if faggots were not crying about le endgame
>>541692845>https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1894563322252726576GODDAMIT I KEEP FALLING FOR IT
>>541692741It's real and it's over for real this time
>>541692897
the most damning thing about poe2 is I just cant shake the feeling that I'm actually arguing with a dev in here defending the tree and they actually think it's good. We know zaccie lurks in here; is he defending his retardation? This game may never improve with that retard in charge of balance
>>541692741this would unironically be the right move
not sure why that guy is using cluster jewels as an argument when poe2 has the same problem, it's just that there is so little challenge at endgame that there's no reason to grind out for optimally rolled megalomaniac, prism of belief, against the darkness, and heart of the welllook at all the giga endgame builds, they're dumping notables to chase an extra jewel socket its the same dogshit game design showcasing that jonathan hasn't learned anything from poe1 despite openly stating its design flaws
>>541691837it clearly is not too op or otherwise that guy would have spent 1 extra travel point to the top left cluster socket and put another one therehe didnt though
>>541692878looks pretty good considering half the passive tree is missing.
>>541692878I unironically thought you posted the same image for a minute there
>>541693106No, he is responsible for monster balance
>>541693179it'll definitely be good in 10 years
when will zaccie balance life and ES?didn't he say it was easy?
>>541693142>prism of beliefam i missing something or does this just give +3 levels (meaning 50% more damage) from a single jewel socketi have to be missing something right
>>541693360The two are not directly equivalent. A "life" build will have other defense - armor, avasion etc. An ES build is using just that.
>>541693591es can have those too bwo....
>>541693223well who is the chucklefuck in charge of item and tree balance then?
>>541693591this is true, nobody ever builds es with evasion (the weakest defensive layer)
>>541693665balance?
>life
>>541693543correct, not 50% more but quite a lot more, it's extremely expensive and theres no point for such powerful items to exist in poe2 in its current state, cluster jewels came late into poe1 when there was a ton of challenging endgame stuff and even then they were ridiculous it's like jonathan wrote a paper on things that PoE1 had and made a checklist with one of those things being uber powerful jewels
>evasion only serves as a bottom bitch to the superior defencekwab dexissies
>>541693783TRVKE
>>541692741this won't happen, because they're retarded
>>541690093i played an arc stormweaver in ssf this league as my only characterthe campaign was alright but i think i got extremely lucky with gear. i was still using the same ilvl 30 wand in early maps
it is now 9am in new zealand. today's the day.
>>541694187teasers go out on friday NZ time bwo
>>541694187What happens today
>>541694320we live in unprecedented times
Minion bros, what is the objectively best afk ascendancy for a pure minion build?
>>541693665unironically i dont think anyone is in charge of anything, people just do what they want and when they get any kind of push back they blame something like "oh but we have work life balance" "oh but remember covid in 2020? yeah that set us back 2 years" "but its early access guys you can't criticize us despite having an in game cash shop plus a $30 buy in"if anyone from GGG is lurking here it took you 7 months to fix fracturing mirrors, there are still blatantly disfunctional bugs in the game since 0.1 release that any competent junior dev could fix in less than a week, you guys did literally nothing for years and it wasn't until the chinamen at tencent dragged all of you across the coals and gave chris wilson a golden parachute that you guys actually started working on game development (on both 1 and 2)fuck you niGGGers eat my unwashed cock
>>541693889+3 isn't that insane and the opportunity cost isn't worth it for a lot of builds. the problem with doomers is everything needs to exist in a vacuum.
>>541694481see you on the next league launch, guppie
>>541694481well now we know there's at least one junior dev in here looking for how to fix this mess
>>541694481poe 1 had 18 leagues and 4 expansions since 2019, and poe 2 has already added more content than it's contemporaries(probably combined).
>>54169449850% more damage for spells or 20% more damage for attacks is not worth "the opportunity cost"? is the average jewel better than that?
>>541694498+3 can be like 50% more damage you retard. Depends on the level of your skill
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>>541694498it is strong but it is a 5% drop off of uber arbiter that is only +3 1/3 of the time and is only a powerful skill 3% of the timeits designed to be an ultra rare broken thing that keeps arbiter relevant, I dont see why thats a problem.
>>541694437uninstall wizardrefundmancer
>>541694831>>541694846 mana sustain is a thing in poe2, it's why bloodmage is so popular for cast on x builds. you also have limited jewel slots, is it really worth giving up a good atd or from nothing? again, doomers view everything in a vacuum.
>>541693632>>541693751Building Es with armor or evasion is not the issue people complain about, its the high value of pure Es people can get, comparing that with life. Is ti possible to build a "pure life" build, that has no armor or evasion? Then it would be comparable.
>>541693665From what I remember, in charge of tree and items was the indian guy they fired recently
Game is kind of poopoo dogshit
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>>541695807
>>541695935That guy has never worked for GGG
>>541695527you are comparing a pure defensive build to a resource build with no defense
>>541695513>from nothingmostly a useless item due to the tree being weak. There are some niche use cases for it like near heartbreaking and using another jewel on top but its nowhere the loss you are claiming it is.You keep bringing up these little outliers like they are significant enough to buck the general trend of this games balance.Also i fail to see how saying mana sustain is shit takes away from how powerful item affixes are. Thats just more shit balance on top of shit balance. If you cant afford to cast your skill obviously you won't gain from pumping levels, but thats very few setups currently, at least of the ones that are useful
>>541696013I'm not comparing anything you retarded nigga, I'm responding to people comparing ES directly with life, when they are not the same
>>541695513>view things in a vacuumyou brought up one edge case whereas i outlined the general trends present across the entirety of the tree and item design. If anyone is viewing things in a vacuum, it's you
>>541695513>you also have limited jewel slots, is it really worth giving up a good atd or from nothing?are you just trolling at this point? you have like 8 jewel sockets
>>541696131why is this still a thing? How is it possible that you sycophants could still be justifying the obvious balance issues between ES and life? Like its inconceivable to me that you would even use this fucking trite argument and think anyone takes you seriously.
>>541696125>thats very few setups currentlythat was one of the biggest complaints from people playing lightning arrow on league launch. there is a reason almost 40% of deadeyes are running constricting command and defy 2.
>>541696554energy shield is not life because it just isntdoes it have the life tag? nodoes it have the defence tag? yesit simply is not blue life. if it was blue life it would be called blue life and not energy shield. is it called energy shield? yes it is. is it called blue life? not it is not.
>>541695513thats not why blood mage is popular, blood mage is popular because GGG added four mechanics that all give massive payoffs for spending life on spells because they are retarded.
>>541696554But you are retarded. Becaus you see big number on pure ES, and see littel number on life. But what really matters is the EHP, of combined resources and defences. So what is the compared EHP of of a pure ES build or a life/armor/evasion build? or an ES/avasion build etc. Get me those numbers, then we can discuss.
>>541694738poe 2 "content" is recycled poe 1 you disingenuous piece of shit, not a single thing that people enjoy doing in poe 2 is new, in fact all the bad things that people complain about are novel to poe 2 and are being deprecated i.e. towers
I've gotten 40/40 past 25+ leagues in a row, but I've been busy so I had to stop playing early. At 10 challenges (level 100, around 20div) now, do you think I can make it to 40?
>eos>eos>eos
>>541696962Not to mention the recycled content was deliberately made worse
>>541697023Reported for doxing since that's literally me
>>541695527i mean it is possible, and theyre actually the best builds in the game, but its probably getting turbo nerfed.
>>541694638I play modded d2, I skipped 0.2 and made the mistake of thinking 0.3 would be better, I'm done with this piece of shit game and company. You're all being swindled by pretty graphics basted on top of a PoE 1 mod.
>>541697023wew thought I was posting in /mygacha/ thread
>>541697010yeacuz the new league is delayed
>>541696125The jewel nerf was warranted but not by reducing the slot. Time lost jewels are fucking useless right now. Maye tweak the numbers but keep the slots.
>>541697090
poe2 eos poe2 eos poe2 eos lets go
>>541697010sure. some of them are a bit grindy but it shouldnt take more than a couple afternoons if you have a good character
>>541696867https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/abyss?sort=ehp
>60 maps without seeing a ritual
>>541692741i would instantly buy a max tier supporter pack following this
>>541697435Well, I got to 100 with trash gear, lots of free exp in 820. So I pretty much just have HH and 10 div now.
>>541696962according to chris most poe1 content since 2019 was a beta test for poe2.
>>541697510>sanctum>ultimatiumI can't believe they playtested these and then made them core to poe2
>>541689662the average poe1 shill has never actually completed act 10
>>541697573i dont mind them for ascension but as farming mechanics they are terrible so much menuing and crap.
im 38/40 and im just not going to do the last 2 challenges i even have the originator orbs in my stash but im just not going to do it kneel
>>541697789Embarrassing. If you don't finish within the first 2 weeks you are a challengelet even at 40/40
if you get 40/40 in the first 2 weeks it means youre playing sc trade which basically means youre a toddler
>>541697949trke
>>541697573Sanctum is great, it's literally a retard filter by design. Favelamonkeys who can't comprehend risk assessment and opportunity cost hate it because they end up with no defences and reduced sight range before they finish the first floor.
What is the white cis-male mode? HCSSF?
>cis-male
>>541698065blue archive
>>541698065If there's one thing white men are good at, it's exploiting browns so obviously trade.
>>541698065Literally every other mode is tranny coded.>>541697949Uhhh stinky... you still need to finish in 2 weeks.
>>541697673a lot of the shit they post feels very superficial, like they check the wiki or poe ninja quickly and then go off on a tangent, once they get backed into a corner they just sperg with a poo2 bad post.
>>541698143Filipinos aren't white
>>541698065sc ssf hc trade but only if you are that nigger at the top doing difficult content instead of the 99% of retards that farm scoured yellow maps not hc ssf, its a fake mode for people that play one character to mid maps, die at 0/7 and quit the league
>area has patches of normal ground
Retard here, what currency should I hoard and what can I just burn whenever?
>>541698143>game with its primary target demographic being southeast asia>a region whose main exports are trannies and manletsUhhhhhhhNo
>game with its primary target demographic being southeast asia>a region whose main exports are trannies and manletsbut enough about poe2
>>541696597because it's op as fuck you retard. They'd be running it even without the mana cost being negated
No normal person calls themeselves a cis-male. Thats their word for normal people, don't do it.
PoE 1 alpha development began in 2010, starting from scratch, with effectively no budget and 0 revenue. PoE 2 began 6 years ago, starting with a fork of PoE 1, with all of the game mechanics and systems already set up. If you were to look at simply years of time, PoE 2's current timeline sits around the Atlas of Worlds release. 1 went from closed alpha to Atlas in 6 years, 2 started with a pre-existing game, and what do they have to show for it? Regurgitated and reskinned league mechanics from 1, still missing classes, 1/3 of the skill tree effectively does not exist because it's so poorly designed, using static drawings for cutscenes and a placeholder campaign with placeholder endgame. All with a AAA budget and massive popularity, a huge marketing campaign and the backing of one of the biggest publishers in the world. Tell me: why are people excited when GGG announces they're bringing existing league systems from 1 into 2? 1 already exists, but all of you retards are eating up this regurgitated slop. There's literally nothing new in this game. OM NOM NOM MORE SLOP PLEASE OH YES THE GRAPHICS ARE SO GOOD WHO CARES THAT EVEN CASUAL PLAYERS CAN DO EVERYTHING IN THE FIRST WEEK OM NOM NOM NOM OH YES THE CAMPAIGN IS SO GOOD I JUST PLAY IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR A MONTH. OH YEAH THEY'RE DEFINITELY COOKING UP SOME NEW ENDGAME SYSTEM , BUT ALSO IM EXCITED THAT BETRAYAL AND HEIST IS COMING IN 0.4. Kill yourselves faggots
>>541698405There is some nuance, but it's better to use currency. Especially at your 'skill level'.
>/poeg/>normal people
>>541698761ok but its early access.
>>541698405if you know what you are doing, burn it.if you don't, hoard anything not named aug, trans, and regal.Later on exalts drop like candies in maps. It's pretty much worthless. People trade good gear in div.This league is however craft-friendly. Also it's so late in the league you can buy endgame capable gear for literally 1 exalt (common low end currency). If you want to zoom it will cost div.
>>541698405that level 4 spirit gem is 90 ex
>>541698405cutie
>>541698405buy some tabs
>>541695043You have to understand the spic mindset. PoE1 is a F2P game so it having overpowered chase uniques like Mageblood is le good and build-enabling. PoE2 is not a F2P game so it having chase uniques is poor balance but actually there are no chase uniques in PoE2.
>>541697443those cheese out high ehp by abusing the block or evasion calculation but in reality a big es pool is much bigger since you're really only getting hit rarely by big hits you cant react tohere's just plain es stacking. instead of a 40k ele hit, its over 100khttps://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/abyss/character/Bod%C3%A9n-3907/Salvan?i=1&search=sort%3Denergyshieldhttps://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/abyss/character/Sintaichi-7743/Edict_Gidlike?i=0&search=sort%3Denergyshieldthese fucking retards deflecting against ES being op are fucking retarded
>found a wand>new to the game>use exile exchange 2>click all the boxes with the mods the item has>its 1 div according to the price check>link it in chat>get told its worth 2 exso whats the point of this exiled exchange shit if everything is actually worthlessI dont play a wand class so i dont know right away if brickedwhy are there so many junk listings for absurd prices then? if it justs reports whats listed this is useless
>>541698405you have a currency tab, you can hold more currency than you will ever generate this league. there is no decision here.that said, don't bother using anything beyond augmentation, transmutations, and regals while leveling.save the exalts for item purchases through the in-game trade system (available start of act 4).
>>541698405some of those runes are more valuable than the combined loot you will find during the campaign because the game is dumbhttps://poe.ninja/poe2/economy/abyss/runes?name=lesser
>>541698562sure anon
Do you use normal tabs with affinity for ritual/breach/exp/deli/essence or do you buy their specialized tabs? I don't think I've ever run out of space for these kinds of stuff.
>>541699109the person saying +3 wasnt that good was defending the balance actually
>>541699156EE2 is almost completely useless if you don't know what you're doing and only somewhat useful if you do>+4 fire spell>56% fire damage>cast speedDecent>reduced attribute requirementsSingle most worthless affix in the game including light radius, instantly decreases the value of any item it rolls on because it's holding a slot that could be used for something else>spell damageGood but a shit roll
>>541699156you are very lucky to have the ultimate authority on poe2 prices willing to price check your items
wow torchlight infinite plays like absolute fucking dogshit
>>541699412What do I list it for bro. I need all the EX i can get to swap to C rfn so I can actually not get hosed by inflation, I play slowly
>>541699156because there are ranges on mods, anonfor example, that +4 to fire can be +7 which is worth way moreredo that search but restrict values to what you havein particular, restrict that +4 and you'll see
>>541699327do you know what mana leech and instant leech are?
im scared of a delay bros...
>>541699489wtf???? I didnt even know this hahafucking 100hrs in on 2nd char (1st char was on standard onlly did campaign)
>>541699156Everything worthless means that endgame is easy for casual. Now people only vie for perfect gear. It's better this way.Also you should only search good mods. Searching for shit mods isn't reliable because some shitheads will price it in mirrors.
>>541699153So should life be able to go to the same values as pure ES? Of course not, becasue you will always have armor and or evasion as well. The pure Es build has no mitigation.
>>541699472No more than 5ex and I can't promise it'll sell>>541699549Leech is not at all comparable to completely eliminating mana costs, not even mentioning how Defy II also gives you fucking LUCKY which on lightning is good enough to justify using your entire anoint
>>541699156how is it useless to see all the prices that your wand needs to be cheaper than to sell?
>>541699489so when I hold shift and see the ranges, what do I actually have on the item?
>>541699458if there is one game that needs a campaign skip its torchlight infinitei dont know why its so fucking badbelieve it or not but the game actually has crafting and mechanics and such, they just forgot to put it in the campaign
>>541699782what you see when you don't which is exactly what your image illustrates
>>541699954Alright thanks
>>541699651like i said. life builds WITH armor or evasion can reach about half the EHP of a similarly scaled ES build. We should be able to get around twice as much life than we currently can. Keeping it as is, is clearly unbalanced. ES mitigates a hit more effectively by you having more of it. Your linguistic distinction between mitigation and hit pool is meaningless in function
>>541699549instant mana leech in poe2. someone get fubgun on the phone, this could be huge!
Poop of Tubshit 2
>>541700141Your penis is meaningless in fucntion
>>541700297TRVKE
>hcssf warrior beat arbiter in 16 hoursNerf warrior please. Especially shield wall.
>>541699690so defy II is used for damage as well as mana, got it. Glad we cleared that up and you conceded>>541700196are you fucking joking? Not to mention it's also on heart of the well you absolute moron. Nice way to out yourself as a campaign tourist
>>541700412literally how, i played for 50+ and didnt get a citadel
>>541700297
Will they delete Cockring Viper Cap or Defy II?
poe1 abandoned...
BROS I HIT A RITUAL 63 MAPS IN
>>541700657not the only thing im abandoning rn
>>541700697https://cdn.poedb.tw/audio/dialogue/npc/izaro/iz_03_fight3b_outroa.ogg
>still no ritual tablet dropjust need to go another 60 maps
I just did my first 50 splinter simulacrumis it normal to get fucking spawncamped 20x as an LA deadeye to these shroudwalker enraged gorillas
They should remove the dot cap in 3.27
>>541692530welldid you
>>541701384I died literally over 100 times on my LA Deadeye. The last 3 waves or so I would get one shot off before I died
>>541701384It is. They even nerfed it compared to 0.1.It's the highest dps requirement content before 0.31 patch.
https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1975132594103787807https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1975132594103787807https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1975132594103787807https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1975132594103787807
>>541701607ITS REALJONATHAN COOKED
>>541701607get fucked doubted
>>541701607i cant take this shit no more man
>31ST
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3865111https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3865111https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3865111https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3865111
>>541700451>mana sustain is an issue in poe2>no it isn't, it's a nonissue. you just need a unique jewel and keystone or this well rolled unique helm and defy 2 on all of your skills.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/386511131st confirmed
POE1 CHADS WINNING
>>541700141NTA and I agree that Life is somewhat underpowered but you should also factor in a couple of things that he didn't mention>ES Leech basically doesn't exist, Life Leech is common and has many ways to scale>Life Regen is permanently active and scales well, ES has a recharge delay that gets reset by any hit and ES recharge speed is generally not cost-effective to scaleAssuming they have no other defensives, a character with 10000 Life is tankier than a character with 9999 ES and 1 Life. >>541701384Yes. Simulacrum is the hardest content in the game and LA Deadeye isn't great for it, I would recommend not fucking with it until you have probably 100d+ of gear. Chrono rapes it though.>>541701356They're all in Sim bro :3
>>541701607HOLY FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>541701864>>ES Leech basically doesn't exist, Life Leech is common and has many ways to scale>>Life Regen is permanently active and scales well, ES has a recharge delay that gets reset by any hit and ES recharge speed is generally not cost-effective to scalegood thing there are very easy solutions to these problems for ES characters!
>>541701767man they really are worried about losing the poe1 playerbase huh
wewondoomerslost
>>541701790spooky3.26 was friday the 13th3.27 is halloween
>>541701790thats pretty cool
>>541701916You should read posts before replying to them
>>541701986>uhhhh if you just ignore these obvious and extremely easy to get solutions for y then obviously x is better I don't say this often but you're a retard
>>541701916>good thing there are very easy solutions to these problems for ES characters!like what
>0.3 will be in august -> released almost on last day>3.27 will be in october -> slated for last day>0.4 will be before christmas...It's gonna be as close as possible, isn't it?
>>541701772i never said it wasnt a fucking issue. You said people didnt prioritize gem levels because of mana. You blamed the symptom for the cause instead of acknowledging that people pump gem levels and THEN have to deal with mana. Fucktard
Is the blurry background a hint? Something to do with nature? I fucking hate nature.
>>541701967>tubbed threads for days>won anythingmaybe next time stinky
>>541702129Literal first like 8 words of the post man, c'mon
>>541701767>halloweenhow am i suppose to trick or treating?
>>541701864>a character with 10000 Life is tankierCool, how i get 10000 life
>>541702327it releases on november 1st in the civilized world bwo
>>541702291new atlas tree, new passive tree, sentinel and crucible trees are now core
>>541702327that's an american holiday, not relevant to most poe1 players
Been an oldie that had bought the currency and 6 premium tabs back in the day. I also converted 2 tabs to market tabs for trading on the free weekend.I got the early access supporters pack and since the discount is on , what tabs should I get next? (320 coins on me)
>>541702436american culture is worldwide thoughbeit
>>541702412Bigly if true.
>>541701864life regen scales like shit outside of tecrod or using defiance. You can't simply get some life regen passives or use vitality as a layer like in poe1. It's an all or nothing mechanic. Im not forgetting anything. THeres a reason that the vast majority of passives on the tree are "life regeneration rate" instead of % regen, or flat regen. Those stats are found in paltry amounts.
25 sleepies until the new league
date officially unveiledno more stalling on challenges
>>541702291it will be an eos announcement and the stream will start and end with mark telling you to touch grass
>>541702493Maps and Fragments.
>>541702340you don't he's arguing in bad faith by bringing up a retarded comparison
>>541702667TRVKE
I sleep
>>541702291from what i can tell the graphics of previous similar posts were completely meaningless
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reminder: last halloween league was n*cropolis, enjoy the markslop, pooshits
>>541702287>it's an issue but it doesn't count because people over level their gems and then realize it's an issueok
>>541702992Ah thanks, thought about doing that but now I won't need to. Have a crown, king.
>>541702493maps for surefragment is huge qolessences help a lot if you like farming for themthe other tabs aren't really worth it IMO
>>541702237>0.4 releases on the 24th and receives absolutely zero patches or support for the next three weekshmm yep sounds like we're in for another round of poo2 kino
>>541703041?? no it wasnt
>>541703149They deserved rest.
>>541702610>everything slowly goes out of focus and fades to black kino
Please primal and sword in 0.4.
>>541703041we've had two good leagues in a row now which hasn't happened in 4 years. I believe in Mark
>spent years avoiding D4 because D4 BAD>finally cave out of sheer boredom and try it >it's actually D4 GOOD I'm NEVER listening to you faggots ever again
>>541702667there actually are some on poe.ninja you get a kaoms heart corrupt and +to socketed on gloves and boots and tons of the 2% life soul core and 3x grand spectrumobviously this is only viable because of how many fucked up life stacking payoffs are in game right now, its not like ES where you can build 10k and also scale damage separately.
>>541703060your claim was that people didn't level their gems because mana costs. This isnt true. They still do it, and find work arounds for it.
>>54170339120 weeks leagues now poo1 kino
>two good leagues in a row
>>541703149their vacation is earlier than that, it will probably be the 12th.they can deal with the most obvious problems and then fuck off for 3-4 weeks.
>>541703449yeah that's on blood mage. It's an outlier. That's like saying 10k life was common in 0.1 because gemling strength stackers could reach it
>>541702340https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abstract>>541702521Preaching to the choir here, I'm an RF enjoyer but there's no fucking way it would work in 2 right now if they ported it over no matter how high you scaled fire res because the framework just isn't here and it'll probably be dogshit in 2 either way cause it ain't even good in 1But what I'm saying is the reason they're being such pussies about putting good Life scaling on the tree is because well-scaled Life is ultimately stronger than equivalently-scaled ES and interacts with other layers in a much less parasitic way. By contrast they vomited out ES nodes because scaling ES well is easy but shorts you on everything not-ES which is why CI was omnipresent in 0.1 and 0.2. Now that Evasion is slightly less ass you can actually get away with running "pure" Evasion (deflection is basically part of evasion) and having some Life on the side.Obviously not trying to say Life doesn't need multiple angles of buffs, just that there's a reason they're not as flagrant with letting it scale compared to ES.
>>541703409its good fun for the first 300 hoursafter that you realize theres nothing to dobut ive paid more for less dopamine rushes so its fine i guess
>>541703409The only good Diablo is D2.
>>541703087>>541702992on closer inspection there is some meaning to it although i have no idea what the 3.26 one is supposed to be. tree league confirmed
Necropolis was april 2024
>>541703671>after 300 hours there's nothing to dowe gotta save you fags from live service games this is vile
>>541703937ive got 1500hrs in genshin
retard
league name is Trees of Kalandra. basically it's a lake of kalandra apology league where instead of building the lake with tablets you grow a tree instead, each map you pick from a couple of different branches to add and sometimes kalandra sits on a branch and hoots at you. please dont tell mark i posted this
>>541692878curse swap
>>541704204TO THE TUB WITH YOU
>>541701790I FUCKING CALLED IT YOU FAGGOTS
it will be wildwood but instead of a dark underground zone it will be more nature looking and above ground
>>541702291>trees>branches>it's branching, exileBlight rework CONFIRMED
poo1 eos nov 1
>>541704249sis everyone knew it was going to be on the 31st.
People still playing poo 1?
>>541704396KNEEL
>>541704458
Poop 2 is over
>>541703714>Necropolis league>a boatThose rascals.AY000! for launch date anyway.
>>541704361>pruning a branch can save a treeRANGER REWORK CONFIRMED
>>541702657>>541703110I don't see the fragment tabs on poe2, neither on their website and can only find it on poe1 market, am I missing sth?
Poo 2 tourist here.What the most low investment zoomy retard-proof build? Like 1 button mapping like LA deadeye. Detailed guide if possible.
>>541704361>>541704601Decent guesses, but that's definitely a dude in the center.
>>54170450831st launch was obvious and so was livestream 1 week before, the announcement was today instead of on the 10th and 17th more info is uncertaini am not kneeling
>>541702291this is the muscular back of delwynazmeri wisps backport league
>>541704698it's literally just one of those generic act 2 trees
>>541704134>mihomoget out/poeg/ is /wuwa/'s rightful clay
>>541704682 (me)I forgot to mention FOR POE 1 because I want to try out the game again. Couldn't get into it.
>>5417046082 has fragment affinity but not fragment tabs yet, currently that affinity makes it take>tablets>breach splinters >simulacrum splinters (yes it overrides the delirium affinity jonathan is a nigger)>baryas/utlimatums>>541704682most poe1 builds play like la deadeye
>>541704741you will kneel bitch
>>541704134>>541704805
>>541704805/poeg/ is accepting of all gachas
>>541704838that depends on your penis size
>>541704805aren't they adding that schoolgirl character soonmaybe i should pick the game back up
>>541704932trvke
>>541704805this is an HSR general
When is fub streaming genshin again? Tired of the mermaid's bare tits.
>>541704932we're all gambling addicts here
>>541704830cheapest zoom build is something that abuses headhunter cause its cheap at this point of the league, probably kb deadeye (warden is stronger but you need to press 2 extra buttons every few seconds)penance brand is the kinoest one but its kinda expensive even for shit gear
>>541705236Are those... BOOBAS?! AHHH! Jannies, help me!
>>541704932
>>541705042Chisa >>541704805Based>>541705005you know what you win im out
>>541704830supposedly this is going to be a meta shakeup patch so who knows but la deadeye is probably still going to be fine
>>541704926have a pity (you) since nobody is playing this game anymore
>>541705316>cheapest zoom build is... probably kb deadeye
>>541705316>>541704830also this is assuming you mean for the current league like starting right nowon league start headhunter is expensive as FUCK
>>541705478>supposedly this is going to be a meta shakeup patchStop spreading this bullshit, we don't know anything yet.
>>541704830hollow palm dex stacker. Ice crash, cyclone, volcanic fissure, whatever you want that works with unarmed. Duelist/ranger, though I've seen ascendent and other classes for it.most of the build is uniques (astramentus, g-trreads, briskrap chest, rings/belt to fix resistances and life, most builds use a unique helm too) so its hard to fuck up. Can carry you to red maps on basically less than a divine worth of gear and pushing into them won't take but one or two more.
>>541705706but mark pwomised
october.... 31st......... .*coughs up blood*poe 1............. won....................
many are saying this
>>541705806rest now, your fight is over*lowers you into the tub*
>>541705554whats wrong with that statement you just need a headhunter and a little bit of trash gear
kys
>check calander>october is only 30 days
>>541705964thanks for the reminder off to my sisters room
>>541706010check again
>>541706154wtf? mandela effect
The worst part about the rare mob icon change is that it made spirits even more dogshit than they already were
>>541705897Maybe if you want to waste time dicking around with T16 legion, for actual content that build needs proper gear that costs a lot at this point in the league.
>>541706234retard
>>541706010that only happens during leap years lil gup
>>541706450retard
>>541706270its enough to farm t16.5 alvadoryanis prototype helps you kill those first few rares and then you stack up a million hh buffs and become immortal
>>541706693nta but i skipped this league, last i checked incursion was super easy but low moneywhat changed?
just consulted the vibe spirits, verdict is out, 3.27 will be a complete slop league with even worse numbers than m*rcs endgame expansion
wtf is t16.5
>>541706801its a new strategy, you use these scarabs>beyond scarab of invasion>domination scarab of evolutionwhich basically causes magic monsters to respawn as rares which then spawn a ton of beyond monsters which then again respawn as raresand then you use >2x incursion scarab of championsto add a lot of magic monsters to alva temples because thats the best way to get high density magic monstersits really good for headhunter because so many rare monsters spawn
>>541706234lil gup over here talking about poe2 LMAOOO
>>541706931pooshits couldnt handle t17s, so they slopped them up and made an easier version (more adequate for the limited brainpower of an average fubcel)
Mark won.Jonatroon lost.
>>541706234TOURIST DONT KNOW RARE ICONS DONT EXIST IN POE1
astrally projected into GGG HQ, 3.27 shaping up to be the kinoest expansion of all time. also poe 1 offline client confirmed by mark personally in a private conversation he had with someone over the phone, not sure whom. i tried listening in on the other and and he must have sensed a presence because he focused a fuck ton of energy and forcefully evicted me
>>541707526you should be glad you weren't killed
Which stash tabs are worth getting?
>>541707712>How can I make this about PoE2?This thing has no shame
>>541707526uh stinky they dont allow two good patches in a row...
>>541707526I wonce had a dream that I successfully physically and sexually mantled the essence of Jonathan Rogers and was able to fully understand his vision for PoE and PoE2. Unfortunately the power was too great and I wasn't able to retain all of the knowledge I'd gained, but it was enlightening.
>>541707921ritual and ultimatum were both good though?
>>541707715i had a few close calls when chris was still around as he was at the very least a tier 2 psyker, these other guys can't hold a candle but mark i think has been taking zinc supplements recently which made him unexpectedly powerful
>>541707526>astrally projected into GGG HQ, 3.27 shaping up to be the kinoest expansion of all time.lil gup has ascended
>>541707921>Legion>Deli>HarvestNyo
>>541707976yeah and do pray tell what happened next as a result...
>>541707976>ultimatumwas shit
>>541708093>harvest goodtry again
This is the average PoE2 player.
bwosletoucanhasarrived
40/40 challenges cosmeitcs gonna be bussing frfr ong ya hear?
Is this a poe 1 or poe 2 general
>>541708315Harvest goodSeems to be working perfectly fine.
doomtroons RAPED
>>541707108>>541706801just did a map to demonstrate what the loot looks like basically its pretty good
>>541708593it's a tub of shit general which services both games
>>541708656omg wow after getting a build that can survive these maps I can then farm a bunch of uniques that are worthless to me because I already have my build completedheckin AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>541708760why so raped
>>541708760no you can farm this particular strategy with literally just a headhunter and the kb gem
>>541708329He right. Why bother. Move on, if you just want to play the same game forever you need mental asylum
>>541708832pooperwun still has 4-5 leagues left before people accept that it's actually over.
>>541708760trvke
>>541709037Damn can't believe 1 has more longevity than 2. Where did it go so wrong?
>"lil gup"never call me this again or you will be killed
>>541709037But you've already played 2 now, shouldn't you be moving on?
>>541708832im ok with them dropping poe1 supportbut only after they make poe2 a better game than what poe1 is
>>541708656neat
What am I supposed to do the next 3 weeks
>>541709354go outside talk to girls watch football
>>541709259what the fuck
>>541709259lil guppy
>>541709354Draw, maybe play TLI this season and see how that goes.
>>541709259awww wittle gwuppie made a poopie? a wittle angwy? gonna cum your panties too?
>>541709259are you a female
>>541709354have fun
>>541709259unc be wildin at lil gup fr
>>541709354prepare a suitable rope for the inevitable flop
POOP OF EXCREMENT TOOBIG SHITTOJONATHANSTINKY TUBASSSSSSSSSS
>>541708329he's right, poe2 is a failed experiment that should be cancelled instead of continuing with this sunk cost fallacy abomination they're building
>>541710191HOLY TRVKE
>>541710226if poe2 is a failed experiment, then what does that make poe1
>>541709354NHL season started broGotta support the Leafs
>>541710283An abandoned one.
>>541710330>Gotta support the LeafsLol. Lmao!
>>541710330>leafs
>>541710336so true, xister
>>541710330im sure you yelling at your tv means a lot to them
are the "5% extra damage of all elements" runes just flat out better than almost every other option? seems pretty busted especially with rakiatas making it so easy to ignore resists this patch
>>541709354Battlefield 6 for me
>>541710656Is it good? I stopped at 1
>>541710459there's a direct correlation between the number of people yelling at a TV and the performance of the team
>>541710695you should have played the beta, i personally love it pre-orded the phantom edition, look up gameplay of it
>tv sports in 2023grim
3.27 will be a sportsball league
>>541710865>2023
>>541710952BAM BAM BAM BAMKAM ON NGAMAKANUISCORE SOME FAKIN GOALSBAM BAM BAM BAM
>>541710865Bro is not prepared to see what happened last year 2026...
poo2 SUCKS ASS
>>541710816works similiarly for poe leagues
JONATROON
>>541711524your mum suck my ass last night
I want to shitblast this sissyfaggot tranny in the mouth
>>541711524She looks lickable
>Scatological fantasiesBuilds for this feel?
>>541711970anything bow
>>541711826sucked* its sucked you fucking dumb fuck
>>541711954anime girls are made for licking
Run Breach.
>>541712153(both ways)
>>541711970raise zombie
>>541712150I intercoursed her too
did ggg post the announcement?
Is hollow palm ever better when you are just progressing through maps?
>>541712198>be me>grinding to 100 in hc phrecia on hybrid scav ps mine>99.9%>"eh, i guess i can try this sentinel">"oh, syndicate? i'm close to a safehouse">run around killing>suddenly 200 lifeFUCK sentinels and FUCK It That Fled. If I wasn't running Wellspring of Creation, she would have 1 shot me. Sure, I had 68% chaos resistance, but I was safe all the way up till then, she had no items, and there were no damage mods.
>>541713694They "confirmed" 3.27 is at the end of the month. I don't believe them.>No 2 week wait for teaser>No 2 week wait for trailer
>>541710330>LAFFShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFnQ0dcaBUI
>>541713970That was cinema
>guy on reddit made 10 mirrors from crafting>his last steps are just greater exalts slam and pray for good mods
>carn back to PoE>mathil playing Risk of Rain 2PoE 2 EoS
>>541713891It's always been Teaser->Livestream->Release with a week between each, dumb tourist
>invest in the stock market>make 10k usd in a couple of monthswhat supporter pack should i buy
>>541716330the greatest ally
Is there a way to block syndicate?
>>541716330last godpoch expansion is right around the corner
>>541716593yeah, launch poe2
>>541716330GOD dawn expansion is right around the corner
>>541717221its scheduled for 2026 its actually quite far away
>>541715374Tourists.
2 poos 1 tub
1 thread 2 poos
>>541717879time is relative
its time for a relative
Not sure why people are saying thunderfist is bad. You can get them for 1div now so I got one to test out and it's performing just as good and possibly better than my triple T1+T2 flat attack + T1 attack speed + T2 crit damage gloves. Might actually keep them since it can also help to apply blind more consistently.
>>541718318proof?
>>541718697Look behind.
time is a flat circle
A watch clock never boils
>>541718746ok i did now what
sex with lurking creature
>>541718510literally me
>>541719126i-im not ready...
>>541719126literally who
>>541719256*whispers into your ear in precursor language*
>>541716330Chump change
What are the top 3 ARPGs in the market? Unironically
what the fuck is the point of ungils harmony in poopyfart 2?
>>541719802how much did you make
>>541719938poe1poe2everything else is complete shit
>>541719938POE1, POE2, D2R, GD, LE, D4, TI, TQ2 just get all of them and you should be fine
>>541719938poe 1 x3
>>541719938Minecraft (Hardcore Action ARPG)Megabonk (honorary ARPG)Slormancer (best selling ARPG)Notable mention: PoE ichi
>>541719938Hardcore Minecraft
niggers who dont want mercs to go core should kill themselves
>>541720487>gorillon mercs available>only a handful are actually useful>only used in high end farming to boost rarity
>>541720487i want mercs to go core, so poo1 dies even faster
>>541720632>torment>delve>vaal side areas>map sentinel>talismansstill better than the core trash listed above
>>541719938unironically there is no serious competitor to poe
>>541720891Delve is one of the best mechanics in 1
>>541719938>>541720972I've been dooming full time since 3.15 and this is still unfortunately true.
>>541720972Yeah thought so. I'll just grind other live service games in the mean time.
>>541721148Why not play single player games instead of wasting your life on chinky treadmills?
>>541721097>quirky chungus steve's name announcer>mechanichuh
>>541721201poe is a single player game albeithoughever
>>541720487cool it with the racism
How do I boost my item rarity to that magical 150% number? I managed to barely get to 100% but anything above that would either cost an arm and a leg or actually compromise my build.
>>541720972I'm not sure how I feel about this TRVKE
>>541720487I would be ok with merc if doryani doesn't work on merc.
>>541721201Theres not enough good short games to keep one occupied. Thats why people seacrh for forever game or something with lots of hours of replayability
>>541721860>Theres not enough good short games to keep one occupied.More than you can feasibly play in a lifetimeThis was the case ten years ago too
>>541721860>Theres not enough good short games to keep one occupiedThere is more than you will ever have enough time to play, you just refuse to look for them
>>541721947>>541722000Oh I am looking. Better way to put it is not enough that I am interested in. Lets say a new 40 hour game comes out. Thats what 2 days of entertainment? 3 at most. Then what I do for the rest of the week?
>>541722000The novelty wears off, there's only so much you can play. This applies to pretty anything in life though...
If you need artificial, intentional dopamine injections to be able to enjoy a game it's not a good gameIf you can't find any games to enjoy without relying on this then you're the equivalent of the boomers spending 8+ hours a day at slot machines in vegas
>>541722429I agree. Games should be mentally engaging and mechanically challenging. That's why almost all modern games are trash
Haven't played since in since huntress, what's so bad about the new season? Also is demon form good now?
>>541722543this fuck poe 2
>>541722981They made towers irrelevant and made tablets into semi-resuable versions of scarabs from 1Naturally the entire playerbase hates this including PoE1 players
