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>>541745025
Humanity started with only our bodies, developed technologies, improved technologies, and eventually came back to improving our bodies.
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>kitsune, aw
>humans lost
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>>541745816
>demon Tamamo making everyone team dryfish
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>>541745816
>birds woman murder angels
H-harpy Anon!?
Explain.
>angel elf need
!!!
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>>541745816
>collab hell
>kanade blue
>foxes wrong
>scylla wife
>bad human since ilias, try dryfishing
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>>541746229
if
>foxes wrong
then how come
>fox used
>fat cum
????
checkmate
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>>541745816
>team dryfish
>try dryfishing
>giant lucifina
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Teaser edition

Album of my lewds: https://catbox.moe/c/w5gtyf
Friends commissions: https://catbox.moe/c/vo902u


The latest, Mariel sex: https://files.catbox.moe/j6jvfk.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/sd3ff3.jpg

Eldritch girl harem (gift for friend, his OCs): https://files.catbox.moe/hdq1ps.jpg

Eden Daughter: https://catbox.moe/c/1hsgsu
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>>541745816
>always food love
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>>541745816
>succ character damage
yup that's part 3
>fly women
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>>541745816
>nanabi mating
>>541746181
Clearly, revenge for Harpy Village not existing in AW.
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>>541746964
Tekken doesn't look like I remembered it.
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lucky anon...
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Ancient monsters...
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>>541745816
>fag successfully managed tits
>guys ride stronger
>ruler reina
>alice looks done
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>Start new run of Paradox after old moniter fails, and it's a bitch to bring my other's PC monitor over to it transfer files.
>Do it on hell
>It's not too bad, but those new skills they added to monsters just kinda blows out my asshole randomly.
What was trtr thinking? He didn't even update the evaluations. Like basic dark elves weren't anything too crazy, but now they can have a nasty aoe fire attack they can throw out at random that would wipe my team or at least deal severe damage without me thankfully running Papi
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Putting up the sign before those vixens show up.
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>>541745816
Nero's future wife shall be a fox he nurtures from near death after she was injured who then becomes infatuated with him. She will call herself Nero and be a total chuuni dweeb that idolizes Nero and calls him the coolest, most mysterious, and hottest publicly with pure genuineness.

This came to me in my Sage Mode after gooning to foxes for 4 hours.
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>>541748202
>monster girl yuri
but have you considered monster boy yaoi
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>>541759470
tbats what monstergirls get off to for some reason even monstergirls like watching it regardless.. then joining in
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Drinking futa monstergirl protein shake...
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>>541747302
I love fly women
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>>Monster Boy mentioned immediately turns thread to hardcore gay shit

What a surprise
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>>541763715
>centaur enthusiast anon keeps getting weird looks whenever he's drinking his XXL sized white protein shake
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>>541763979
futa is not gay because it's sex with a girl (+ girl dick)
if anything, the futa shake post was a palette cleanser after actual gay shit yaoi mention
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>>541763979
so basically this just confirms most people are bi. which fits cuz the moment you mention blacksouls here the thread also goes into a fit and you can fuck a lizardboy in that game.
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>>541764082
Twinkel scene was really hot
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>>541764216
It confirms that there is an unbearable, loud minority lurking around to shove their fetish into everything as soon as there is the slightest Trigger. Has fuck all to do with people being bi.
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>>541764082
Futa leads always to gay shit but keep posting about people drinking their own semen to prove me wrong
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>>541764517
the majorty of mgq is shoving a bunch of minority fetishes at you constantly thinking about it. like who the fuck writes that many hyperspecific kinks and shit. including maledom and somniphilia one time.
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>>541764673
>their own semen
I think you misunderstood
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>>541764673
Monster boys/yaoi is some nu-mggg shit most likely pushed by one actual faggot, but futa is native mggg funposting
Deal with it.
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>>541764879
True, monsterboy shit is not even ontopic.
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I claim that Holmiel has the best paizuri scene.
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>>541764082
Girls don't have dicks and if you have a dick you're not a girl.
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>>541765107
nice saggers
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>>541765246
>futa monstergirls are not monstergirls because i say so
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>>541765352
They're not girls because they have dicks. Just like how you're not straight when you post about guzzling semen.
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>>541765413
>monstergirls are not girls
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Personally I find penis on a woman ugly and repulsive. I stick to watching what I like, but it does like to butt in when you look for yuri. You go to Pixiv, search for yuri, see a gallery that looks promising and then you click and see the futanari in the tags. That's why I gave up looking for it in any page that doesn't have proper tagging and filters, and I assume any h-game tagged as yuri is actually mostly or fully futa.
If I want a girl to get dicked I look for Normal Love.
I envy yaoi fangirls. I bet boys with vaginas is not as prevalent in their gay porn unless it's one of those omegaverse things they like to read, but that shit is well tagged.
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>>541765461
Calling something a monstergirl does not make it so. If I post a picture of a human woman and call her a monstergirl, does that make it a fact?
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>>541765413
well yeah they are futas they are in a odd position of being both boys and girls and nobody fucks their pussies cuz artists are cowards. they have both parts use both parts.
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>>541765601
Sorry you can't accept the canon and objective fact that futa monstergirls are still monstergirls especially in MGQ.
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>>541765653
>nobody fucks their pussies cuz artists are cowards
Nobody fucks their pussies because they're drawn by closeted gays.
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>>541765107
Nah
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>>541765695
Sorry you can't accept the canon and objective fact that any random picture of a 3D woman I find is a depiction of a monstergirl.
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>>541765896
Where are the human girls in the MGQ monsterpedia?
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>>541765697
>nobody fucks their pussies cuz artists are cowards
>Nobody fucks their pussies because they're drawn by closeted gays.
Firstly, some games are in fact disappointing and do that.
But secondly, I wonder if this is the same french retard who had a melty every time futa got mentioned years ago.

The fact is that MOST futa popularity stems from a general femdom appeal, whereby the male role is traditionally the lead role and that's why stupid shit like Amazon Presses come from.
With other factors, such as relatability. For one who actually enjoys gratifying their female partner, sadly the female body is poor at conveying that, whereas a dick is pretty honest and obvious. This also boils over into why most hentai has the girl given excessive narration about everything she feels, and the popularity of ahegao.

Can we be done with this retard's futa meltdown and projections of his homosexuality onto others now?
Have this image of a futa orc from our main game.
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>>541766070
>The fact is that MOST futa popularity stems from
A lust for cocks.
>Can we be done
I don't know, are you done posting about drinking cum?
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>>541766070
It's most likely another /jp/ retard who seethes at MGQ monstergirls.
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>>541766219
It's a bold to equate people not liking your horse cum fantasies with not liking MGQ monstergirls in general when futa is so fucking rare in this game and exclusive to one artist (and another artist's really gay out of game material.)
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>>541765601
>If I post a picture of a human woman and call her a monstergirl
That's just nu-mggg humor tho
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>>541766343
3 artists have drawn futas in the game actually, but you need to play MGQ first to know this. So fuck off retard.
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>>541766489
>Um akshually you need to know every single futa scene in the game by heart!
Are you like actually retarded? I know your ass is burnt because you got pushback for openly posting about your lust for cocks and cum, but be serious here..
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>>541766662
At least you admitted you don't play the games. Now go back.
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>>541766750
>You didn't play the game because you don't know every futa scene by heart!
List all the artists who did blowjob scenes.
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>>541766893
Almost every artist? it'd be easier to say which artist never did blowjob scenes, probably the xelvy replacement
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>>541767085
That's not a list, so you don't actually know. I guess you would need to have played MGQ first to know that though, huh? See how retarded your fucking argument is, horsecock rider? Nobody is going to have an itemized list in their head of who did all the scenes they didn't like, as if I'm going to sit there and watch scenes I'm not interested in for girls I don't like, that's the kind of autistic completionist urge you're not supposed to give into.
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>>541767269
Why would you want a list of 99% of MGQ artists? It's not even the same as the futa argument, retard.
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>>541767338
Because your entire argument relied on having an encyclopedic knowledge of everyone who's drawn a specific kind of scene, stupid faggot.
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Once again anti shiki fags and anti futa fags (they probably overlap too) are even more obnoxious than the actual enjoyers.
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>>541767462
Who the fuck mentioned shiki bro, do you have some kind of persecution complex?
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>>541767438
Your entire "no u" backfired when you asked me to list 99% of MGQ artists instead of 3, now go back you retarded newnigger.
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>>541767559
>you asked me to list 99% of MGQ artists
But anon, you can't even list them off the top of your head, so it's clear you don't actually have encyclopedic knowledge about this one kind of scene. Which means you totally never played the game, otherwise you'd know every scene of every fetish by heart.
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>>541766489
Which one drew the 'anon drinking horse spunk' scene?
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>>541767702
Listing 99% of artists is not the same as listing 3 artists, once again go back retarded newnigger.
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>>541767767
Both require you to have encyclopedic knowledge of every scene in the game off of the top of your head, which is an unreasonable request regardless. That's the point, cockjockey.
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>>541767757
>>541767269
>>541766343
Nobody mentioned horses except you, holy insane schizo
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>>541767863
99% of artists is still not the same as 3 artists, but you're too retarded to understand this.
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>>541767870
>>541764000
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>>541767462
Quite so
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>>541768073
if centaurs are horses then humans are monkeys
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>>541768147
When you're trying to denigrate something about a centaur you related it to horses the same way you relate a human to a monkey.
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>>541767994
The time investment to make the list is, again, not the point, but the inherent knowledge of every scene. You know all the futa scenes because you've wanked to them, obviously I wouldn't have done the same and never bothered to view them. I know Xelvy has done them, I know Setouchi has some out of game (I don't remember off the top of my fucking head if he has any in-game.) Who the fuck is the third? Delphinus? Did you expect me to look at the scenes for Delphinus girls? Why would I torture myself thus?
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>>541768201
>denigrate something about a centaur you related it to horses
rude
this is luka needs to beat people up
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>>541768305
Still 99% of artists is not the same as 3 artists, but you're too retarded to understand this.
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>>541768147
>humans are monkeys
Saiyans are monkeys too!
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>>541768527
>Still 99% of artists is not the same as 3 artists
When Setouichi has drawn MGQ futa in the fanart, Un_Do in-game, and Xelvy in-game, it practically is 99% thoughbeit
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>>541768527
>>541768305
>The time investment to make the list is, again, not the point, but the inherent knowledge of every scene.
I see you can't read.
>High Slug
So Un_Do. Not only did I forget she existed, but I specifically did NOT look at her scenes because her monsterpedia entry implied she ate people. I don't like futa or vore, so of course this girl isn't in my thoughts constantly like she apparently is in yours.
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>>541768684
I see you're still coping, listing 99% of MGQ artists is not the same as listing 3.
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>>541768670
nice reading comprehension retard
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>>541768778
Being stubborn about misunderstanding the point is an obvious defense mechanism on your part because you know your original argument that people who don't remember a random Paradox Part 1 mob recruit off the top of their heads never played the game is really stupid.
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Succubus Rhapsodia 2 development is still going strong, not that anybody gives a shit here.
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/21548/article/1593949
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>>541768979
I know you're mad that 99% of MGQ artists is not the same as 3 MGQ artists but you'll have to get over it.
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>>541769062
I just want you to know I pictured you typing this while crying.
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>>541769185
I know you can't stop projecting like that.
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>>541769216
>N-no u!
lmao
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Tylenol should have been banned
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There's a man in MW Sabasa who needs 3 Hiruko tentacle monsters attending to him.
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>>541769010
>not that anybody gives a shit here.
Does it feature futa centaurs?
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>>541769246
You'll have to stop being so mad and get over it.
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Futa monstergirls canonically being monstergirls really triggered this retarded schizo lmao
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>>541769405
Futas will never be girls and you will never be straight.
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>>541769478
Point proven
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I should post more futa monstergirls from now on, this schizo is something else
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>>541769523
My point was proven the moment you started obsessing over cum, anon.
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>>541769686
ok schizo
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>>541769683
Apoptosis aren't monstergirls anymore than elves or angels are.
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>>541769764
Mind Status = Blown
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>>541769764
Literally all 3 of them are monstergirls and in the monster encyclopedia.
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>>541769883
Being in the monsterpedia doesn't make you a monstergirl. If it did, human-form Sara, elves, angels, Banshees, Grangold King, Replicants, The Dimensional Eroder and Ilias her very fucking self would all count as monstergirls, when canonically they are not.
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>>541770003
None of these are pure humans. Which is why they're in the monsterpedia.
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>>541770138
They're in the monsterpedia because it lists all enemies for convenience. The setting's lore is that monstergirls are something very specific descended from Fat Alice, and all these other things are, lore wise, not monstergirls.
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>>541770242
False, any girl who's not 100% human is a monstergirl, it's like saying four spirits are not monstergirls because they're not created by dark goddess.
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>>541770506
You're mixing up your own personal definition with the setting's definition of a monstergirl. You have to pay attention to the lore, anon. Or read the monsterpedia some time, it even notes how Illias doesn't belong in a monstergirl book.
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>>541770663
No, the page says Ilias herself is mad for being included in the monsterpedia, not that she doesn't belong there.
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>>541770354
At this rate Futa is gonna win the word cloud
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>>541770996
And that's a good thing!
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>>541770996
[GOOD END]
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>>541771164
giwtwm
And people act like Succubus Prison is all bad ends
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>make 1 (one) post about monster boys
>come back to you retards arguing about futa
Anons...
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It really makes me wish there were more games with futa monmusus.
I want to play a shota exploring the world of futa orc, centaur, minotaur, etc girls
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>>541771414
>posts about monster boys in a monster girl thread
>calls anyone a retard
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>>541771414
Monsterboy is legitimately offtopic, futa triggering retards is another story.
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>>541771497
I'm refraining from making a politically charged joke to mock current world idiocy.
Have this impregnatable kitsune(male).
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>foxfag is a fagfag
Color me surprised
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>>541771684
Nah but that game was an amusing meme when it came out.
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We could instead discuss whether or not skunk girls count as kitsunes
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>>541771997
skunk girls are extinct
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>>541772185
Then what do you call THIS?
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>>541772261
nigsune
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>>541772319
That's a skunk girl and you know it!
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>>541772261
This is fox (choco flavor).
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Genshin Impact?
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>>541773821
fox creep is not real i tell you
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>>541771997
No, because a skunk is part of the family Mephitidae, while foxes are part of the subfamily Caninae from the family Canidae.They share a suborder, the suborder Canifornia, but there is such degree of separation it would be unfair to treat them as the same animals. In the same way, a skunk girl is not a kitsune, though you may be led to believe she is if she doesn't use her stink glands on you, as they both have pretty tails you'd want to brush.
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>>541771616
>cute girl, would
>reads post
>fuck
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i don't play Shrift but why in merciless route any monster keep acting like they know the mc that make no sense
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>>541779134
It's joever, anon is big gay now
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>>541779223
IIRC it's not even normally possible to be on genocide route on your first playthrough
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>>541779725
the art look like shit anyway 90% of character are murderwhore and the 10% it still complicit murderer that act like they did nothing wrong
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>>541779223
Demons in Shrift are aware of the multiple timelines. Most can't travel between them, but they have limited communication with their alternate selves. So if Kazuya is very nice to a demon, this demon might tell her alternate selves in some of these timelines that Kazuya is a good guy and he's to be trusted. They also seem to share some memories, perhaps in an unconscious way.
>>541779947
>futa debate calms down
>moments later anon brings up "murderwhores"
Who wants to bring up MW vs AW next?
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>>541780350
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
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>>541780525
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
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>>541779947
The game looks and plays like a shitpost and it will forever remain a mystery to me why this general ever held it in such high regard
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>>541779725
>>541779947
>>541780330
oh so demon have a version of universe discord huh how it that helpful if the information is conficted still doesn't explain why how they know the mc is maniplunated and keep trying to befriend him
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>>541780887
>still doesn't explain why how they know the mc is maniplunated and keep trying to befriend him
Because the dev is obsessed with concept of forgiveness at all costs and wants you to feel bad for rejecting them
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>>541780887
This should only happen if you go genocide after you befriended them in the previous run first. This is individual with each demon, so if you bonded with Lampas (the plant girl) she'll remember Kazuya holding her and being romantic and try to save Kazuya, but the other demons will not unless you bonded with them too.
For example, Sphinx tries to stop him immediately under orders of Hera because she senses his murderous aura, but if you bonded with her before she instead tries to kiss him at first, thinking it'll bring him back to normal.
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>>541781630
Am feeling like i play library of ruina again where the game forced you to "forgive" an extreamly flawed charcacter that ruined the salvation of the human race and give them super mind aid 2 times while keeping to ruined more life throgh the entire game
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>>541782145
But anon, Angela's having a spergout because her daddy-creator didn't love her as a daughter or a woman. That makes it okay. Also Carmen would've ensured it all went to shit anyway since she's insane and evil now.
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Do you think their kids would have autism?
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>>541783226
what the fuck, this is an interesting question.
battlejunkie and chunibyo with ocd.
hmm, but we don't really see how Koron reacts to any criticism, so it's vague.
Let's presume situation: Koron trains her kids with same motto that she treated her sisters - "you should grow stronk enough to kill me or i kill you", but kids supposedly inherited ocd perfectionism and criticize her for small mistakes here and there, how would she'd react? Unknown.
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>>541780764
>and plays like a shitpost
I mean it's quite literally just MGQ VN Hell mode.
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>>541784264
both of them are the purest essence of chunni that could possibly exist
that being said Koron does actually respond to some criticism (though it's mostly from her mom), but she either brushes it off or just thinks they're misunderstanding her. She's probably too dumb to really give it much thought. Though she's also probably the type who thinks that if you do have a criticism of her and you want to make sure she actually "understands it" then the only way that you're proving to her that you're right is by beating her.
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>>541781630
>Because the dev is obsessed with concept of forgiveness at all costs and wants you to feel bad for rejecting them
Dev's kind of a retard who put this entirely reasonable and justified option in, then got mad players thought it was reasonable.
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>>541785717
>the only way that you're proving to her that you're right is by beating her
How can I prove to her that strength isn't everything? That there's more to life than just being stronk?
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>>541746181
you know exactly what they did to deserve it
I don't regret a damn thing
and we'd do it again
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>>541786186
well, obviously, you prove to her that strength isn't everything by beating her of course!
if you're stronger than she is, then that means that you're objectively correct!
The inner machinations of Koron's mind are truly a profound enigma
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>>541769683
Their scene was futa?
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>>541787563
It's the gayest scene in the entire franchise.
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>>541781630
>>541785771
look let's cut to the point he wanted to make Japanese Undertale with Monster Girls but had absolutely no idea why Undertale got people to like it in the first place and completely screwed it up and is just mad that it wasn't as well received as he thought it'd be.
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>>541787030
What is her skin-tight bodysuit made of and how can it withstand her power?
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>>541788197
You don't want to know. It's her own dead shed skin. She never bathes, so it sticks to her until it rots off, only to be replaced by a new layer.
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Not gonna lie the collab makes me wish to play the game of those mutes
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>>541766070
>voluptuosness of an orc
That's why I've blasted a metric ton of seed to Sonya.
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>>541788197
It's a symbiote and we're setting up the Spiderverse crossover
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>>541789804
damn you xelvy. drawing an ass like that and not making a proper plapping scene. I would trade the gorillion handjob variants for just one in a heartbeat.
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>>541790153
The only one whose butt shall be plapped is Luka
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>>541790387
And that's a good thing!
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>>541790387
That's kinda gay.
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>>541793905
Futafags are more obsessed with cocks and cum than gay people are, so they are the gayest.
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>>541785771
>>541787670
Genocide isn't the justifiable option past the bunker. Kazuya is warned by his best friend that killing demons will corrupt him because of his unique condition, yet keeps going until he loses his mind.
In neutral, no character says Kazuya is wrong for killing in self-defense or being angry at the demons, but rather the opposite. Even in genocide some of the humans and demons are understanding of his point of view at first. Every time Kazuya or the player gets called out for doing Genocide, it's a character's opinion. It's normal for them to panic or get angry when they're about to die or your actions set them back, it doesn't mean the dev thinks you're evil in real life for doing it.
The story about the dev getting angry at genocide players feels like people trying to make up another KC story of him hating fans or being on the side of the villains. The worst thing I've seen him say about genocide is that he regrets calling it a "route" because it gave the impression to some fans that it was mandatory.
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>>541794069
He updated the game to make it impossible to win, which does smell like butthurt to me.
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>>541794069
>Genocide isn't the justifiable option past the bunker. Kazuya is warned by his best friend that killing demons will corrupt him because of his unique condition, yet keeps going until he loses his mind.
The asspull with ancient evil sitting in kazuya's ass and taking the wheel if you don't act like a complete cuck is really, really weak storytelling.
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>>541794069
Question: in the Collab but Vinum and Kazuya hint at the Chara equivalent inside him. Does that get explored normally or is it a Genocide-route exclusive?
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>>541794940
Not him, but they bring it up in the "postgame" EX scenarios
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>>541794069
Kazuma still gets a bad end even if you only kill two monsters.

>The story about the dev getting angry at genocide players feels like people trying to make up another KC story of him hating fans or being on the side of the villains. The worst thing I've seen him say about genocide is that he regrets calling it a "route" because it gave the impression to some fans that it was mandatory.
And that's just him covering his butt since he updated it a few times to make the fight tougher and tougher, that's also why he doesn't have it in the prequel
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>>541794069
>his unique condition
his condition pretty much only exists for no other purpose than to be the justification behind why the route is wrong, which is part of why people take issue with it: it's not that it's unjustifiable, it's that the narrative bands out of the way to screw you over for doing it.

The reason the Genocide route in Undertale works narratively is for a few reasons: You have to go out of the way to do it, removing any pretense of self-defense, and the Monsters are not obnoxious, evil, etc, and have more understandable motives, so they don't really deserve it.

But the main one is the emphasis on the player.
YOU are the reason everything goes to hell in the end.
You took an innocent child, and through your deliberate conscious actions, turned them into the vessel for a murderous, blood-crazed spirit that you created. Even the 'spirit' (Chara) is not inherently malicious or evil at first, but your choices wind up eventually turning it into a sociopath who only cares about bloodshed and power. It's both a representation of people who only care about having the strongest optimal character and what a player character who was made to do nothing but kill things and be the strongest would actually become like. It ends the route by (attempting to) kill the player, and after that point destroys the game unless you give in to it's demands or just delete the files

The reason it fails with SHRIFT is because before you've even done anything "Chara" already exists.
Instead of an empty vessel turned destroyer by your own choices, Kazuya's body is already inhabited by an evil abomination separate from yourself and it is very specifically the reason things are portrayed as bad if you go genocide. Due to the clumsy way it's handled it comes off less like the player being a bastard and more like "this path is understandable, but forbidden because you'll wake up cthulhu if you do it". Which doesn't have anywhere near the impact.
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Speaking of SHRIFT bullshit, my favorite part of this stupidity is alan adding genocide players as disgusting abominations in-game and drawing schizo scribble charts describing how mercy route shields Kazuya from evil murdergod.
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How would robot girls react to being called Clankers?
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>>541797671
Depending on the girl, they would be hurt
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>>541794440
I can't read his mind or see the old versions, but Shrift is a very hard game where even Normal is called "Masochist" mode. Buffing the final boss of the route seems more like wanting to make the sans of the game up to par with the difficulty of the game, rather than taking it personal with the players who managed to beat her.
>>541795589
Neutral A (maybe B too) is more bittersweet and fully bad. Also I recall there being a more renegade route in Shrift 2. Not quite Genocide, but it's about Richard taking a more violent path to purge demons.
>>541796487
I can see that. Yes, his whole inner demon is partially a plot device to make a story about power literally corrupting work, and I agree Kazuya being less of a vessel for the player than Frisk hampers the meta aspects, but I don't think that the player is intended to be made out as villainous as in Undertale, however. Even the characters in EX4 talk about genocide players as unwitting, rather than straight up evil.
>>541796957
You mean Ubbo-Sathla? That's not the players, that's Kazuya in his final stage of corruption. Also the chart is crazy and meta, but it's about canon, with Mercy being currently the canon timeline and Genocide attempting to establish itself as canon one.
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>>541797993
>Neutral A (maybe B too) is more bittersweet and fully bad. Also I recall there being a more renegade route in Shrift 2. Not quite Genocide, but it's about Richard taking a more violent path to purge demons.
The demons leave you one by one until you're alone and then the demons swarm earth as you attack them and slowly lose your mind. Its still a bad end.
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Fox Furology.
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>>541794013
You're the gayest for not loving monstergirls with all their parts
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>>541798483
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>>541794069
>feels like people trying to make up another KC story
Pretty much, MG creators just have a talent for mindbreaking people irl, some do it without even interacting with their "fanbases" directly lol.
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>>541796487
The big difference is that the girls in Shrift are mostly murderwhores or close enough, while the characters you mow down in Undertale are good natured and at least half wouldn't hurt a fly.
So Shrift dev ran into the problem of wanting to create a parallel but many/most of the "victims" are worse than the player.

It's like if we were supposed to feel bad about these bitches...
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>>541799445
it's really not, he even changed the final boss of the route to be unwinnable without editing the game files because of it
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>>541799445
They do interact with their fanbases though? That's how most of this retardation starts
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>>541797750
How would the MGQ ones rank from hurt to not/least hurt from Radio, Laplace, Hild, Sigurd, and Singularity?
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>>541800067
The more they see themselves as people, the more it would hurt them. I would never say it to them though since I love them
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>>541797671
I thought clankers referred to the ones that fuck the robots?
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>>541797671
>>541797750
>>541800067
I can't imagine any of them but Sigurd being particularly offended. Maybe Singularity too.
Radio might be sad thinking it means she's obsolete...
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>>541799775
>because of it
source?
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>>541800067
That also reminds me of TRTR and his retarded ending to shift the blame for nukes onto the automata instead OF THE MONSTER WHO CAUSED IT BECAUSE NUKES ARE WORSE THAN BEING GENOCIED AND BACKED INTO A CORNER
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>>541799619
I think TrTr wants you to feel bad about no friend Kanon, or Koron replacement Hiruko.
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>>541799619
Rreally I think the biggest difference is that Undertale takes it less seriously. While both games have comedy, Undertale is sillier all around and a lot of the anti-human sentiment is brushed aside. At the end of Pacifist your friends mention most of them tried to kill you and it's treated as a funny joke.
Shrift's demons are also designed to look less friendly and act more like horror monsters at first.
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>>541800518
Well everyone loves Koron and ancestors (except for one antimonster schizo) so he did a good job.
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>>541800067
>>541800329
Radio would be okay. She wants to be called junk by Chrome, so she probably would ask you to call her a clanker.
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>>541800518
I never got the impression Trtr was overly concerned with things like that or took it that seriously.
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>>541800573
>Shrift's demons are also designed to look less friendly and act more like horror monsters at first.
NTA but it doesn't help that they also do things to bait the player's reaction

>>541800221
No, its a term for robots from star wars, its what clones called battle droids
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>>541798507
You know you could make an argument to me that a futa who is shy, kind, or submissive deserves love despite her deformity and I shouldn't hate her, but every single (canon, human Sonya doesn't count) futa in this franchise is evil, insane, domineering, eats people etc etc so I have no reason to feel charitable.
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>>541801651
It's not about the futa, but the penis in and on itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWeyUTBkTss
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>>541801651
>talking shit about Luka's bub daughter or Melk
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>>541802060
Not really? I just find futafags and futa characters annoying. The penis is unaesthetic but that means a lot less than the constant "Haha I'm gonna rape your ass and make you squeal" or "I will never use my vagina and am only interested in fucking your ass!" or "I'm a futa and that means I'm a superior being to men and women bow down and worship me!" or "My dick is huge so your character HAS to salivate over cocks even if you didn't indicate before you like them!" or worst of all "I'm a futa and I'm so horny it's crazy, I'm going to fuck your waifu and you just have to put up with it because my dick is huge and I'm horny and I'm an optional romance so it's a polycule and not cheating even if you had no interest in me!" Or other similar sins.
>>541802249
The beelzebubs aren't actually futas. I don't remember if ALL normal (not high) slugs have dicks or not, but I do remember that Melk's scene doesn't involve a penis.
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>>541802515
Bubs are futas, the ovipositor is functionally a penis.
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>>541802616
Penises don't lay eggs.
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>>541802660
It's a phallic object that impregnates you.
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>>541802784
So? Is your hand a foot because you can walk with it? And anyway isn't this a tangent on what I'm trying to talk about? Luka's daughter doesn't even fucking egg him.
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>>541802515
I think you're mindbroken
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>>541802982
No I've just had a lot of experience with a lot of porn and a lot of porn consumers and I know how everything always goes down. I've even gotten the rare futafag to admit I'm right and they're tired of the constant futadom and futa superiority shit too.
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>>541802515
Let me guess, Urta?
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>>541802981
Dunno about you but most people can't walk on their hands alone. And yes it is a tangent and she's still a futa whether she has a scene or not.

>>541803104
Nobody cares about your experience in other games, most of them also being wegs so even more so.
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Antifuta schizo is still here schizoing out
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>>541802515
Slugs are hermorphidites and she does tease that she has one
>"Slugs are hermaphrodites. We are all female, of course. But if we want we can grow a... fufuu."
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>>541803808
slug gangbang...
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>>541804120
A slug and a high slug wriggle wriggle with each other as friends. They see their friend anon and asks if he wants to join, it then turns into a gangbang with anon in the middle
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>>541803304
She's the one I'm thinking of with that final example yes, but there are a lot of similar issues in just about every porn game with a futa.
>>541803314
Japanese games with futas tend to have the same issue. See: the futas in MGQ.
>>541803808
>Slugs are hermorphidites
Rabbits eat their shit. Monstergirls don't always work like the actual animal. But point taken, Melk could grow a penis if she wants. She never does though.
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>>541803808
If a slug girl wants to bulli my ass, she will have to pamper my penis first. A lot.
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>>541804424
>Japanese games with futas tend to have the same issue
Not really
You're mindbroken
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>>541804497
They don't tend to do so, if you tell a slug you love her no matter what she'll get flustered before melting your body and mind with love as she wriggle wriggle you
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The only futa monstergirl doujin that didn't piss me off is that one where the slug girl is riding him and he accidentally jerks her dick off while she does so. It's gross but she's not a shitter so I can't bring myself to hate her.
>>541804635
Remind me again how all the futa scenes in this game go down.
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>>541805050
>The only futa monstergirl doujin that didn't piss me off is that one where the slug girl is riding him and he accidentally jerks her dick off while she does so. It's gross but she's not a shitter so I can't bring myself to hate her.
Name?
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>>541805050
Luka asks for sex then gets all tsun and aiee, like every scene ever.
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>>541796487
The more I see SHRIFT concerned the more I feel nobody got the proper grasp on the purpose of a Genocide Route. It can punish you for that (even in Undertale it's essentially a dead end that fucks your file) but it's an equal possibility to be run through.
62Studio messes up because Genocide isn't a ''route''. The game just switches up when you go through it. Undertale worked because the world itself changed accordingly. Towns were abandoned, random encounters were gone, few could stand up to you. But 62Studio still bothers with some closure and lore to those routes, at the end you will be in for a Save File fucked hell but it's understandable.
But from what I hear of SHRIFT is like the creator was schizophrenic. He made the possibility and when he saw people going through (of course 100% runners would go through it, when you play the game even you don't look for every secret you will know all routes if you like it) he just tried to gate people? Sans was hard but wasn't impossible. It isn't even some gameplay autism of a dev going ''you beat this boss too fast so her gets damage attenuation and forced stopgaps''. It's like the dev hates people that play it.
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>>541805163
Please understand, he has a serious health issue.
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>>541805154
Had to look it up, it was Meruko no Ongaeshi.
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>>541805963
Blessed be anon, thank you
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>>541806183
Enjoy it, the dick part ruined it for me. It's just, like I said, I can't bring myself to hate her because he's the one to grab it.
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>>541806272
When I like a monster, I like everything about her. So I tend to over look things like that
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>>541800512
..........anon all the monsters and angels and the portion of the population who aren't part of the mob mentality all point out themselves that the nukes or machina are not the actual problem and the population has come full-circle in their stupidity, what the hell are you talking about
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>>541806750
I'm blaming him for having the city turn against the machina, It felt like a copout just like removing the anti mermaid widow from after she was proven right
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Badwriting schizo 2.0
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>>541803104
>>541802515
>>541800512
>that also reminds me
oh my god is it actually the badwriting fag who's been complaining about this
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>>541807914
Also I dislike them agreeing to share the city with the succs after all the trouble they caused. I know the trope with settling our differences because a bigger enemy comes, but I felt it was handled poorly and the legitimate grievances got glossed over in the name of coexistence. Also I know they're different cities
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>>541808078
Not sure if it's the same one but he's just as retarded and annoying.
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>>541807914
>Also I dislike them agreeing to share the city with the succs after all the trouble they caused.
the trouble 'who' caused?
the Succubi and the Angels are both foreign invaders to the Singularity San Ilia due to that being their home city in their world. The true inhabitants are the humans, and they can't do anything about either of them which is the entire reason the Machina Faction went rogue and started trying to find a way to put the humans of the city back on top. But the Succubi and Angels don't cause much trouble in the city at all, in fact it's pointed out that Minagi and Raphela have managed to actually make relative peace with each other for a time and stopped any fighting from happening before you arrive there compared to every other city this happens with descending into all out war from the start.
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>>541808078
No, I'm not your bogeyman fag. I've never bitched about Paradox's writing, though I did Lazarus post for fun sometimes way back a decade ago.
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yeah it's the same guy lol
do us all a favor and go back
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>>541808078
Literally only the last post is me. I'm not even saying everything is bad, I'm just saying I don't like certain points and think it could have been handled better.

>>541808373
see >>541808121
I posted a correction because I knew someone might have mistaken my post for talking about the same city when they're different

>But the Succubi and Angels don't cause much trouble in the city at all, in fact it's pointed out that Minagi and Raphela have managed to actually make relative peace with each other for a time and stopped any fighting from happening before you arrive there compared to every other city this happens with descending into all out war from the start.
I was saying that the humans rather sided with the Angels than the succubi and such. I felt like there were too much animosity to just gloss over things like that
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>>541808373
Also I thank you for at least not just assuming I'm a troll or making me a boogeyman and giving me the benefit of the doubt
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>>541806750
>monsters and angels
You just said the same thing twice
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>>541809103
Punish this dirty sinner
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>>541808749
hm
well, fair enough, i guess the timing just seemed to line up and was hoping there wasn't actually two of you
no wonder threads derail to shit so quickly these days
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>>541809158
Literally what's the difference?
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>>541809437
No worries anon, I understand everyone's on edge, I didn't mean to cause problems. I'll stop talking about it for now, I don't want to derail the thread. I'll concede any arguments even though I don't think we were arguing, but I'm sorry either way for causing problems.
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>>541805163
Can't blame him when monster pussy is so good.
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>>541809821
>Literally what's the difference?
Angels, filled with love and heavenly pleasure and blesses your eternal soul in the after life

Monsters fill you with hellish pleasure and curses your eternal soul as they then eat it.
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>>541810000
>Lose and be raped~
Why doesn't this apply to monsters?What's with these double-standards??
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>>541810000
witnessed
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>>541810589
Lost the sex battle
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>>541799619
Fuck. Marry. Seal. Kill. Kill. Kill.
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>>541811782
Luka come here, yeah this poster really needs correction
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>>541812000
Luka did not shed a single tear when Kanon got vaporized by Michalea, or when Minagi got donuted by Alma, or when Kanade got daystar'd by his mom, or when Tamamo got nuked by Sariela, or when Eden wiped the leech off the face of the planet.
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>>541812383
But he wants to save them all the same
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>>541812383
Because chaos route is the true route.
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>>541811782
>>541812383
Minagi isn't that bad, her keeping other succs out of trouble seems like a net benefit
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>>541812383
Luka didn't shed a tear for horny aids yet he's abusing time travel to bring her back.
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>>541810152
Sounds like propaganda
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>>541812538
>>541812862
And this is more than enough to trigger the badwriting schizo every thread.
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>the three copy heroes finally merge into the ULTIMATE HERO and they fight him in a multi-versal battle
>it ends with the three heroes joining their power and firing a laser that blows a hole through the ULTIMATE HERO's chest
>in bewilderment he starts believing that the similarly-interdimensional mission control intervened and granted them additional power that he could not have been aware of until it was too late
>he's informed that in truth his perception of a 'hero' and the source of power was flawed from the start, and that their strength comes from comradery and unity, their mutual trust and faith in one-another bolstering all their abilities as comrades in arms, and to try and replicate the full power of the idea of the hero was doomed when he couldn't understand this
>instead of strength, he should have wished for friends
>as his body begins to shatter apart and he fades from across space and time, he dies in pure disbelief, completely unable to accept that someone who had transcended dimensions, created worlds, and held the power of the 'ultimate hero' did not truly understand what it meant to be a hero

It's even better because it's foreshadowed pretty well by how he views the Prince; he believes his power is "domination" and the ability to force, manipulate, or compel others into doing anything for him, yet still expresses how envious he is to see him surrounded by people who admire or love him and hoped to replace him, because he doesn't actually understand that the reason they're all willing to fight for him is just because he's really kind and endearing and they really do just want to protect him unconditionally.

I still can't believe they killed him with a fucking friendship beam though lmfao
it's like if Idea Lukas was killed by the Care Bear Stare
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>>541814016
I, without a shred of irony, love the power of friendship.
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>>541813294
Yeah, Lamia Nun approved, only monsters who accepted that they were born of sin and treachery and give their souls to Illias will be spared and allowed to love their humans in places called towns and homes.
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>>541816223
Wonderful, because you should, it's kino as fuck
The Power of Friendship is only rivaled in my eyes by The Power of Love or just plain ol' Pure Goodness. And Love and Friendship can even overlap with each other so that's not even mutually exclusive. It's truly peak.
I just think the mental image of the Prince specifically firing (or at least being part of the team that fires, but he is the guy in the front and the one who's doing the talking) a giant laser beam made of friendship to kill the BBEG is as awesome as it is hilarious.
Especially after his time with Okyuu the night before this where he offhandedly reveals that he DRINKS and knows what it's like to get drunk (as he eventually compares the fatigue from testing the rollercoaster to feeling like he's drunk), meaning this guy has also had alcohol and gotten a hangover at least once before in his life which is honestly even funnier.
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>immediately after this
YES
Y E S
THE THUNDERBIRB HAS DESCENDED UPON USSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>Her EXII is even preemptively unlocked since I decided to get it ahead on time just in case
perfect, I'm so glad to finally have her, honestly besides a crow or owl harpy it's the main mythological bird I was hoping trtr would've had in Part 3
her being very similar to Mini in terms of personality is nice too
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>>541817046
Well, seeing how Fat Alice has no problem being called the evil goddess, than I suppose there is some truth in it all.
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>>541814016
Feels like I missed a lot of the collab for starting late. I'm pretty sure I only fought samurai Cruz and shota Cruz, not the knight alike on the left
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>>541817046
Oh yea if angels are so good show me an angel better than a monster.
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>>541822109
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>>541823269
Cupid is used goods
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>>541823739
Cupid isn't used, she uses.
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>>541824085
She's used and GAPED
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>>541823739
All angels are derived from used goods.
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>>541823269
I don't think she bets this. try again.
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>>541783097
She just wants the best for you, anon.
Reality is such a cruel place. Instead of confronting the contradictions between your beliefs and reality, wouldn't it be far more pleasant to simply turn away from all of the pain and embrace your true desires no matter how insecure they may be?
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>>541824776
She says her prayers at night to Illias, she's an honorary angel

>>541824425
That's impossible for Angels
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsQmgJWemgw
/mggg/ bros... the monster girls have gone too far...
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>>541824959
No she doesn't, your propaganda will never work
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>>541824959
>she's an honorary angel
Ah so I see you could only find ONE angel is the "better" than the average monster. And had to resort to using monster as "proof". it's almost as if they're the same.
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>>541826892
>Ah so I see you could only find ONE angel is the "better" than the average monster. And had to resort to using monster as "proof". it's almost as if they're the same.
I can post more if you want anon
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>>541826892
this is incredibly cursed, and yet being so cursed is appropriate for adramelek so it ends up working out
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>>541827019
behold
angels
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>>541829510
The angel on the left is the cutest
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>>541829510
It won't be long until Dove girl or Cross Bill girl gets sainted
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>>541826892
Would she have been a good childhood friend if she was the one that got put into the giant slut's womb instead?
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>>541829510
I will admit the angel on the left is pretty cute probably really cool too.
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>>541811782
Magafu is fine.
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>>541830121
She would not be a tomboy orc at least.
If she was humanized, she would be a long haired, elegant blonde swordswoman.
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>>541812569
they just want loli minagi. who is an oppai loli canonically/
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Man surprised me most about humanity. Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present, the result being that he does not live in the present or the future, he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived.
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Now I just have to do all the tentacles and she'll finally be done. I actually did the floating eyes already, but they'll go on last.
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>>541849740
only realized after the fact that that's the wrong version i had to change some stuff on the bottom
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>>541829510
>>541830109
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UP6GWlPOrdM
Is this an angel?
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>>541850252
>saving you from math
that's a hero
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>>541753832
it really IS over for you holy shit
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>>541849950
>gacha
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>>541855112
I don't care where she's from
based is based
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The all-knowing is really, really fucking annoying. It'll feel like I'll have her completely locked down between anti-disruption song, magic slasher, daystar, the occasional dimension slash, magic reflection, and some doping. And it might work till she has like 1/5 hp left too, but then she'll just break out of it and get my magic slasher or dimension slasher and I'm fucked.
Doesn't help that you can't actually choose your party going into it. The game keeps deciding marcellus gets the cut even if he's in the main active party, leaving me with only Granberry as a dimension slasher...
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>>541858228
Nevermind. Ignoring her rules and just brute forcing it with Luka's attack stat pumped to the max made her die in two turns.
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Haha, imagine naming your harpy daughter "Chirp".
Or your slime daughter "Lime".
Or your lamia daughter "Miia".
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>>541849950
we need more people with this dedication to his favorite girls in the general
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>>541861443
Those are weird names.
t. Coloring Books
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You will show my wife, Cake, the respect she deserves.
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Do you sometimes fantasize about raising one of the evil monster girls and giving them a happy childhood so they don't turn as bad?
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>>541865879
Hey, at least Coloring Books picked the name herself.
>>541866181
>Cake
I'm hungry...
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>>541866194
Raising simulator...
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>>541866194
you could just kill them to prevented it take less time and more efficience but if you can't yeah that the second best choice
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>>541879745
>your daughter does something bad
>KILL HER IT'S MORE EFFICIENT KILLKILLKILLKILLKILL
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>>541882283
This is why Luka needs to beat these people up.
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>human supremacists when they find a monster girl taller than them
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>>541884780
Hm, I'll take the fox.
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>>541885307
Do not the fox!
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The sound should be fixed now, why are they all breaking now
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>>541885939
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>>541885939
i adopt them all and i'm going to raise them to be Allah fearing and faithful muslims!
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>>541886393
>They're going to rape and kill and this time think they're justified in doing so
Its so over
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>>541885939
>>541886101
>>541886393
i want to raise them to be good girls I DON'T WANT TRANNY LUKA AS A WIFE!
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Don't drink the monster milk. They put something in it to make you horny.
I don't even remember the last lime my penis was limp.
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>>541887171
>Insulting my wife
die
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>>541867538
>Cake
>I'm hungry...
Anon you posted Hiruko
You can do that with any proper noun...
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>>541900127
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>>541900127
I'm hoping she spooks me one day but currently I'm saving my rolls for the anniversary
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>>541745816
>fox used
>kitsune aw
>foxes generally wife
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>>541903054
Fox = good
Sex = good
Fox sex = 2x as good
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>>541906110
>Sex = good
Um, incorrect?
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>>541907678
If sex bad
Why penis hard?
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A catgirl got angry when i complimented her beautiful years mumbling about being a noble tiger or something.
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>>541920414
Its just a silly monster anon, just give her a steak and head pats and she'll mellow out
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>>541901605
that's a pretty good one, but I'm always a sucker for puns.
>>541902029
It turned out in my search for a clean rip of her CG that this is apparently a very common feeling you have. But don't worry anon! I'm sure you'll meet her someday!
You just need to stay Octimistic!
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If Ilias wants you to follow her commandments then why does she order all her angels to reward the sinners but call it punishment instead?
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>>541920414
Do not anger catgirl
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>>541925361
>making a catgirl mad
Oh nononono, Anon.
Hope you're prepared to face the consequences.
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hapy wife
hapy life
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What does your favorite monster gril’s Google search history look like?
Pic related.
>‘Human man love monster girl Reddit’,
>‘Human man love short monster girl’,
>’Why humans two eyes’,
>‘Why humans not one eye’,
>‘Do humans like one eye’,
>‘How to make human man love one eye’,
>’Bulk eye drops cheap’
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>>541806510
I love the monster parts, I love monstergirls with big meaty paws, sexy horns, fat dragon tails, tentacles, ovipositors, dicks, cute knife ears...
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>>541931027
>What does your favorite monster gril’s Google search history look like?
Restaurants within a 5 mile radius
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>>541931027
Nearest Elementary School
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>>541931027
I think my wife hates computers, and she generally doesn't like tv or electronic stuff in general, but that might be partially (or entirely) my fault because I told her about how much I didn't like technology because of how I felt like people get overly reliant on or become enslaved to it and social media practically brainwashes people and then a couple of weeks after we did get gifted a computer/tv I woke up to find them missing and it turned out she destroyed them while I was asleep and started trying to convince me that the new(ish)ly invented TV's were actually part of a nefarious mass-brainwashing scheme by MW!Tamamo as part of a plot to take over the world.
And apparently despite my dislike of them I had started using one of them too much and it essentially convinced her that I was actually being brainwashed in a literal sense, when really I'm just very bad at falling back into old habits sometimes.
The fact she can't actually use either of them probably contributed though, it's hard to use a keyboard if you have no hands.

She has me search up cute animal videos/music and nice looking travel spots for her though. Never got another tv though, I do hate those things.
Plus all the shows are just badly-dubbed reenactments of everyone's different interpretation for what happened on the journey to save the world (and I swear to god they can never get someone who looks like Luka to actually play the part) or very bizarre things like "cooking with semen" or "surprise date time". Haven't any of these people heard of a nature doc or something?
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>can't even settle on the size much less arrangement or position
this is gonna be harder than i thought
Kraken has given me an idea for how to do her suckers decently at least; I'll probably end up not using any of hers though they're probably too big.
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>>541950803
The first one should be the hardest. Smooth sailing from there on.
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>>541956445
I always hated this lazy slop of peoples' random uninteresting OCs
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>>541956583
every party needs a pooper
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>>541957109
It's lazy slop, cope.
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>>541956445
Brother aren't half of these konosuba characters
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>>541957248
i'm not even the one who posted it
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you know i just realised like pretty much everyone in paradox saw hiruko's pussy when she coagulated all her mass into a giant hiruko and thus eating the dimension eroder.

like you walk outside then the sky is literally just hiruko pussy
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>>541768147
>humans are monkeys
Why yes in ways. Monster monkey loving like luffy.
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Constance is so fucking cute, holy shit. Why are the Remina girls so strong?
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>>541960154
hot
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>>541962114
heinrich blood
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>>541963329
Wouldn't it be more attributed to og princess Remina's blood in this case? After all, she managed to secure an heir from Heinrich somehow,
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>>541964618
This royal blood is kind of weird, since it doesn't seem to really power anyone up, outside of the Grangold King.
It's just one of those things that are not elaborated on, only really brought up with the Magus Kings of Grangold being described as incredibly powerful when it came to magic. This description never comes up with the other royals too.
I'm guessing these original humans were not all the laser beam shooting squids, and were more diverse, with unique traits that got transferred to their descendants.
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>>541966863
Just to clarify, when I said strong, I meant in terms of cuteness and eagerness to secure Luka as their husband.
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>>541962114
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>>541968654
I'm actually kind of starting to wonder if he's just acting dense like Heinrich did/does.
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This has honestly been a very fun way to spend the day. I'm gonna probably keep all the frames in seperate sheets and do them individually so I just reassemble them and/or change the coloring depending on the direction she's facing.
Okyuu seems to be able to have pretty much any number of tentacles that she wants but I'm gonna probably go with six both for practical reasons and because her 'legs' are already leg-tentacle hybrid limbs in the first place so this way would give her eight.

>>541968881
The Original Luka actually does, which is because of his desire to act the way he 'thinks' a Hero is supposed to act. So because it's stereotypical for the Hero to be dense he intentionally behaves that way until he eventually realizes why it's not a good idea.

I don't think Singularity Luka has that excuse since he had such a different upbringing and the idea of a hero isn't as important to him as it was to the original one so he could very well just be dense. I do think he's not as dense as he makes himself out to be still, though, but he's denser than the original at least.
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>>541969848
Paradox Luka has some moments where it's REALLY obvious that he's blowing the girl off or intentionally acting like he doesn't know what she's talking about, so I do think he's often just playing dense because he doesn't have time for their shit more than anything.
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>>541971580
it happens more often as the game goes on but when it comes to someone like Sonya he's inept in a way that no one could fake
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>>541972998
He grew up with her so he's basically imprinted on her as family. The same way most humans are put off by their siblings because they grew up with them. So he doesn't really perceive her as a woman, but as his orc sibling.
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>>541930125
Explain this, birdbrain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_tossing_(behavior)
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>>541974368
Harpies don't do that
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>>541956445
I love this. More like it?
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>>541967816
oh thats cuz again the blood, have you seen luka's cousins
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>>541980605
and aunts
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>>541974368
luckily cuckobird isn't a monster girl
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>>541968654
The face of a predator...
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>>541745816
>based amount thanks tamamo
>weak despite members
>lol male stinky
>nanabi mating ends
>damn ocean biggest actual path
>alma trust
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>>541988297
>You've spent my lunch money, allowance, inheritance, 35 years of future paychecks and my retirement
>Thanks, Tamamo
>$13,039,659,204,693 current Yamatai debt
>Thanks, Tamamo
>Day 70 of #blueballed no RAPE no SEX
>Thanks, Tamamo
>5-9 kits per litter
>Thanks, Tamamo
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Do succubi ever dream of having their souls eaten by humans?
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>>541989617
while they sleep they rape things in their sleep
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>>541989617
i remember playing one game where you can drain succubus to death to bad it text only and not cg
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>>541873735
She only has those gigantic hands because Thresh couldn't keep her from otherwise overshadowing Kotone.
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>>541931027
>eastern cults
>history of sectarian violence
>what was the name of that one group that worshiped an arch-succubus
>arch-succubus cult history
>which cults became religions
>which religions still exist
>how to get sheepgirl used to teleportation
>power incontinence book
>subordinates and colleagues talking shit
>is imperella still alive
>oni meat flavor
>next war when
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>Headpat the succubus
>She closes her eyes, smiles and uses Freiza's supernova move on me
>Seems me cumming myself into unconsciousness from the attack
>Cradles and scolds me like a child as I fade away afterwards

I'm getting mixed feelings here
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>>541994768
You needed to be taught a lesson.
She still likes guys though.
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>>541974084
He definitely sees her as a woman, bro gets bricked up looking at her for too long sometimes and her request scenes have things like this.
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>>541993323
Well, that certainly didn't work out, because I like her big meaty paws.
Imagine how she awkwardly maneuvers them during sex, careful not to hurt you, haha.
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>>541998741
you'll have to imagine because you can't plap her only thighjobs and footjobs for her scenes
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Sonya, loves Luka lots and grew up with him
Sara, doesn't seem in love with Luka but likes him enough to bully his willie and marry him
Constanze, loves Luka lots even through she doesn't know him personally
Remina, loves Luka lots even through she doesn't know him personally
Neris, loves Luka lots because hes her dad in another time line
Chaos, loves Luka lots because hes her dad
Beelzebub daughter, loves Luka lots because hes her dad in another time line
Hild, loves Luka lots because ????
Alice, loves Luka lots because adventureing partner/kindered spirits

granted I'm only going by non h scene interaction since h scenes are dubious canon at best are there any other characters who are hot for Luka outside of an h scene?
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>>542000318
hild loves luka lots because he's her dad.
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>Monsters be like:
>"This is the scariest person I have ever met."
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>>542007795
>temporal immunity
>luka still felt everything from the beelzebubs ending
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>>541968654
Just two fellow heroes hitting it off. Let's do our best in our adventures!
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>>542009560
>ilias
>ilias in a wig
>ilias is your fate
>ilias (ilias backseating ilias)
There are some compelling options here...
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i feel so dead inside
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>>542013530
Don't care, tibetan throat singing forums are the last place you should be seeking psychiatric help from
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would you believe it
someone actually scanned it
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>>541995473
Request scenes aren't canon.
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>>541887171
Doppel didn’t choose to be created the way she is
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>>542000318
Ilias loves Luka because she has an incest fetish and spent the first part of his life watching him from heaven and masturbating to him eventually falling into her clutches, then on his adventures masturbating to him getting raped by everything before rewinding time. In another time line of course.
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>7/8 of your great-grandparents are human
>"but no, we're at war with humanity"
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>Luka + Succ = Dried Fish
Is then
>Luka = Dried Fish - Succ
>Succ = Dried Fish - Luka
???
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>>542022727
What again?
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>>541748202
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>>542026554
This is stupid
Her math is stupid
Ilias is stupid
Promestein was right
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>>542033493
Promestein is a lame version of Kurisu. Even the spider lady from Three Charms is superior.
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>>542040042
Promestein is fine
Also she and Kurisu have almost nothing in common outside of how they look
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>>542033493
Thou WILL respect thine Goddess!!!
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>>542043420
No way fag.
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Finally, Luka's going out on the dating scene with normal human girls!
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Which character am I?
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>>542045753
This totally normal human girl is so sexy!
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These seem to be the last of the random mob enemies I have left to recruit. The first one I'm not sure if I can actually find anywhere since it was some weird boss thing at the end of the Sealed Monster's Cave. I tried running around in the cave with quintuple encounter on for a while, and it never showed up. Not sure where else it might appear. The second one I'm not sure I have access to anymore since Hiruko ate the whole place. Don't even remember where the Calamity Star was anymore. Can't think of any other locations that spawn the enemies from there.
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Please, let Time Stranger usher a new age of doujins.
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>>542059694
There's a sidequest that allows those enemies to spawn at the Sheep island.
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>>542059694
jp wiki mentions sheep area for the one on the left havent gotten too far in chaos route yet hopefully you understand what that means and the other one also mentions sheep no mori whatever that means
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>>541810589
>Why doesn't this apply to monsters?What's with these double-standards??

But anon, it does. But only if they one who beat them wants to rape them. See- Alma VS Granberia, or the fact you can have party members use pleasure attacks on enemies in paradox, that counts as rape.
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>>541810589
wait you dont use pleasure attacks
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>>541882283
>T Dark Goddess
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>>541885616
fox do YOU
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>>542059694
Sheep Island lab has it. It's just a rare encounter with a terrible recruit rate.
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>>542061567
if luka rapes a monster he loses as if he cums critical ectascy happens
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>>542063530
>>542059694
in older versions (i.e, I think ~3.02 or so) there was a bug where you could recruit that thing and the miniboss blalice with the tartarus rematch fights, which made it significantly less of a headache to get them, but that's probably patched by now.
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>>542021203
https://exhentai.org/g/3576681/75b6454746/
>Yao vaginal sex
uhhh based? but it's also unrealistic
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>>542056378
she was still there?! Can we recruit her?
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>>542066756
Nah, she just says oh well and goes back to listening to healing music, and Luka decides to leave her be.
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I want to fuck an owl.
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>>542061118
>>542061365
>>542063530
Thanks, I got them now. The vore worm joined pretty quickly, but the outer worm girl was extremely stubborn. I guess I don't have anything left to do now.

>>542064452
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's patched now. I tried that at some point, but it became clear after a while it wasn't going to work.
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in hindsight maybe i should've had her lifted up off of the ground or something, but she does walk around normally a lot, so it's not too big a deal.
Okyuu seems to usually only have a couple of her tentacles at or around ground level and carries the rest of them in the air, so I think I've just been thrown off from looking at it the wrong way in terms of how to attach them since I wanted to make it accurate but without just obscuring everything from every angle but the front. I'll definitely have to slim them down though, but it probably won't be by too much.
I'm still unsure about if I'll actually go so far as to mod her into the game outright after this, but if I do I'll try to at least make some kind of event for it so it's more like a side-story rather than just dumping her in at random. If I do create such a thing I'll release it for the thread as well.
>>542066756
>>542066928
If you bring Priestess to her, there's a special scene (bonding wise; they listen to music together iirc) between the two of them, but you can only see it once and after that she just goes back to hiding in her shell.
I wonder if the original Baal Zebul is still in there.....somewhere.........
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>>542065165
So we have Yao using her pussy but still no Alma anal?
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>>542065165
Yao has vaginal sex in Paradox
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How many girls have peed on Luka? I know Ilias did, the twins did, and one of the doppels. Feel like I saw at least one more, and for some reason they're all angels.
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>>542076298
if an angel does it, it's consecration (holy water)
if a monster does it, it's desecration (evil tainted water)
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>>542076298
Jap otakus have an enduring meme that piss is 'holy water' and thus it gets associated with purity, angels, and lolis. Lolicons especially are really attached to piss for reasons I don't understand. Unfortunately those characters are victims of terrible Japanese fetish memes.
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>>542076764
For some reason I'll probably never understand, Japanese otaku just don't seem to consider pee that niche of a fetish from what I've seen. If you knew absolutely nothing about fetishes, you might not think it's much more niche than something like bondage or facesitting. I can only assume they're all too busy shutting themselves in to ever have a chance to walk into an outhouse, porta potty, or dirty bathroom.
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I can't see anything yet this was very arousing is this what they mean by new fetish unlocked? Is this even a fetish or is my mind just running wild imagining the plapping going on under there, the grunts, the moans, the hot breath as the exertion makes it damp and sweaty under there?
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>>542079259
>my mind just running wild imagining the plapping going on under there, the grunts, the moans, the hot breath as the exertion makes it damp and sweaty under there?
This. Its like when you see a character get dragged into a closet or something and you see and hear thrashing and then they walk out with messed up clothes
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>>542076721
>>542076764
i am filled with seething contempt and disgust
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Thinking about doing a new playthrough with Chaos-chan while I wait for the new playthrough with Chaos-chan.
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>>542092418
you can get a second marriage item if you go through the entire game from ng+ instead of starting at the 3rd way choice btw.
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>>542093029
You can't get it if you start from the great decision?
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>>542094151
nope
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>>542079259
Which scene is that?
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I just noticed sub-Ilias can steal Lucifina's ring from original Ilias the same way original Ilias can steal all of sub-Ilias's equipment.
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>>542101475
fluffy...
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>Birds are so cute!
>I wonder what this one does?
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>>542093029
>>542094364
Looks like Luka can at least get his other marriage items starting from the great decision, but the second girl I picked did not get access to Lucifina's ring while the first girl I picked still has her copy of it. I'll do a speedrun of the game now and see if that lets me get a second Lucifina ring.
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>>542101475
>You came to the right neighborhood, friend.
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sex < rape < breeding
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>>542105326
>Nono, I'm pretty sure I took a wrong turn som-
>Your home is over there.
>?
>Your wife is waiting.
>???
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>>542111208
no
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>>542101521
>創世の指輪
>女神イリアスが自身の為に造り出したという指輪
>Ring of Creation
>A ring that was said to have been created by Goddess Ilias for herself
it's only natural, it's her rightful property
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>>542125458
Is this a threat or an invitation..?
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>>542128465
She's your loyal and loving maid, its a invitation that turns into a threat the more you deny her, her duties
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>>542137065
I never liked this artist's rendition of Ilias. It's too different of a character in design. The art is good though, and I'd never talk bad about the intent behind >>542134796 this one.
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>>542146838
Do not put your penis inside robots
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>>542150127
She keeps begging for sex but she's so pure I just can't do it
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>>542151864
>Making a pure, innocent girl suffer
This is like playing Teaching Feeling and never giving it up to Sylvie.
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>>542104237
God's work anon
It's doing God's work
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>>542152172
I just can't anon, she's a sweet robot girl. Who had a hard life, who am I to hurt her. You would do the same
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>>542153393
>Actually reciprocating someone's love is hurting them
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>>542151864
>you beg him for sex
>he denies it
This is why we rape.
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How much longer until EN Paradox p3? Will i die from old age before it will come out just like with rance games?
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>>542153493
I feel like I'm taking advantage of her
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>>542153493
Never read Chobits?
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>>542150127
But what if the robot put her penis inside of me?
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>>542134796
>>542137065
>>542138687
>I never liked this artist's rendition of Ilias. It's too different of a character in design.

Today I shall remind them.
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>>542157380
>recognize my own post(s) in that
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>>542161192
Shiki Ilias endless dryfishing...
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>>542108739
SNEX
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>>542153775
>we
A-Anon?!?
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Quick!
Everyone, hide your human boys!
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Sub Ilias is good too
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https://nhentai.net/g/602334
Merchant-san Fox doujin
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>>542151118
would me eating her out count as a sign of respect?
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>>541753832
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>>542173584
Mindflayer-chan will perform corrective surgery
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BKxpg9d1Lo
First kitsunes and now cats are evolving into an aquatic species...
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>>542174198
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>>542174245
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>>542104573
>>542120674
Looks like I got confused. For some reason I thought Ilias got the ring when I proposed to her in camp, but it looks like it came from some other event that I've forgotten. In that case, you can get all the proposal accessories for Luka starting over from the great decision. You don't have to start a completely new game.
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>>542169432
conclusion: subilias can become a loli to bully people
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foxes STINK
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This artist opened again (last time I got Eden from them), felt I should take the opportunity to get something, but wasn't sure what. Whims ended up deciding on Reflestia. What can I say, I like dark skinned chicks, and not a lot of them in MGQ. Especially ones of any import. Sure, some like the dark elf and Nerfertiti lamia's and what not, but not a huge amount. Anyway, even if she's not a great person, Reflestia (alive) is hot.
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>>542176347
I disagree.
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Coloring Books...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55kBG5TD0OY
Harpies...
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I think I'm starting to see the end goal here anons.
I've made some new tentacles for her to better suit the scale between how she looks compared to Kraken and Poseidoness (hopefully they still look thick but not disproportionately so), and I'm happier with the newer versions of the front most ones that aren't just modified kraken tentacles, although they still resemble hers just due to the fact that they're still both tentacles with suckers. I spent a good while of freetime I had yesterday to trying different poses and arrangements for what works best with her in this style, but I believe I've finally come to a set of the lower and middle pairs that I think looks pretty good.

I just need to finalize the upper/back most pair and how they'll be posed and attached; I'm not satisfied with how they look at the moment, but I think they're getting close.
I'll probably have to do something about her hair and it's outline however so it doesn't get lost and just blend in with her tentacles though.
Either way Silk and the other people trtr commissioned to make all the ones for the girls we know and love did a huge service with just how good all of theirs look.
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>>542179350
Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
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what is the easiest monstergirl to draw besides elfs? just curious
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>>542180851
Worm or Slug
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to my utter horror i found 1 downside to harpies.

they cant grow too large boobs or they cant fly.
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>>542181940
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>>542180851
>Easiest
Tentacle girls/scyllas

>Hardest
Harpies
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>be me, Yamato no Orochi
>be only 8 headed monster
>have 8 brains
>use none of them and instead fight by smashing heads into people
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>>542182704
bird legs hurt
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>>542179972
It looks good. Really has come a long way.
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>encounter Gluttony Candy
>she uses the start of turn vore skill
>*reflect*
>she vored herself
Kek. A fitting end for Candy.
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>>542188964
>she vored herself
How does that even work, does she just fold inward until she collapses into a black hole?
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>>542189132
the bacteria and acid in her gut dissolve herself from the inside out
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>>542189132
Autophagia.
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>some issue with the keyboard periodically causes the cursor to start spasming and spam left clicks or become unresponsive for some reason (potentially a short or something)
>have managed to get around this for the most part by having to manually wrangle it so it stops, but I can only do that after I notice it happening, because there's absolutely no warning for whenever it decides to do this
>while re-arranging the hind tentacles on the bottom layer I realize I still need to add on the four green floating eyes
>new layer, copy them over, and begin trying to re-arrange them
>with all these parts I'm not even sure where to place them now
>in order to test how it currently looks, I have to change the background (to blue so the green and red both stand out), save it, then open it in photos where it smooths out like how it would look in-game, and then undo the background change so it's back to being transparent
>save to test
>cursor seizure fit begins the second I click save
>fucking closes the program out
>'its ok properties has a revert to previous file history function'
>properties
>apparently this is N/A or something and it doesn't have any history
>'its ok I can just load the backup'
>turned out the backup would lose me far more progress
>'its ok I can just uuuuuuuuuh remove the background yeah'
>turns out paint saved the blue background entirely and now the transparent/color layer is underneath it
>'remove background' option also completely mangles all of the spritework
>I'm going to have to manually mine out everything from the blue pixel by pixel

CURSE YE WORLD DROWN
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>>542184824
thanks anon I appreciate it a lot. I'm glad that she's turning out alright.
>>542184552
I'd use a real bird usually for reference, but otherwise drawing out a little z-shape and then building the leg around that is a good place to start.
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>>542199334
awfully horny!
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>>542193149
my artism hates real life so ill reference animated birds instead.
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"Just wait, Kitsune, I will tear you to shreds," growled the speaker, a voice rumbling with the deep, vengeful fury of magma flows. This was Vulcan, a God consumed by a deep, burning enmity for Kitsune.
He had been thoroughly scammed by her early on in the competition.

He might have accepted the loss, blaming his own foolishness, if Kitsune had at least provided him with accurate information.
But the data she had supplied was outright false, a deliberate deception.
It was only thanks to his unique, inherent talent, a divine gift of the forge and elemental command, that he was able to form these incredibly resilient fire spirits in the first place, allowing him to claw back from the brink of total failure.
His grudge festered, a constant, smoldering fuel for his divine will, shaping his very existence.
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Within the forest a tiny, fearful shota darted frantically, clearly fleeing from another, larger Kitsune that pursued him relentlessly.
When the shota tripped over some branches and the Kitsune was about to strike, the shota almost instantly, shoved a brilliant ring from its pocket on the Kitsune's finger.
This sudden action struck its pursuer, instantly incapacitating it. In a shocking reversal, the predator became the prey.
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wait foxes can get even larger what is their limit
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>>542180284
Explain this, featherbrain.
https://death-mage.fandom.com/wiki/Harpies
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I made my characters too strong while waiting for updates.
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>>542202658
What the fuck is a death mage?
No, YOU explain this to me!
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>>542202658
>Harpies take on many lovers, and many tend to find a new partner for each child they raise. Incidentally, those who are good at looking after eggs, singing and dancing are popular.
OH NO NO NO
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>>542202658
Everything/everyone in this setting is weirdly kinda slutty for no reason as like an afterthought to the level I think it's just the author's fetish.
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>>542204582
brood parasitism?
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>>542157380
>Wrong yellow
>Wrong type of blue
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>>542202527
>limit
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>>542206591
>he doesn't have the harder laugh
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Good news
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>>542157380
>it's not the exact right color! So it can't be her!
Talk about being a nitpicking autist
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>>542207048
I do now.
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>>542199334
>>542199452
AAIIIEEEE
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>>542207370
they say that but isn't it still a bit of a pain in the ass for western buyers at the moment
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>>542192309
Ganbare, okyuu anon...

You should probably consider getting into the habit of relying on keybinds until you do something about your cursor.
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>>542206591
>>542207048
>>542207409
Well there are shitters who color Alice purple rather than blue hued too.
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>>542210687
Yeah, not gonna lie, this is the worst Alice fanart I've ever seen. It's like he wasn't even trying to make her look like Alice
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Well on the bright side the eyes do look pretty cool I think, and don't obscure the rest of her face too much as well thankfully
So long as there's nothing else that I can think of to do left, I guess this one is complete
>>542207627
It was a duty I was obliged to fulfill; enjoy
>>542209003
I use them when I need to, but they don't really do anything to mitigate the issue unfortunately, they're just nice shortcuts to use when I remember that they exist.
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>>542210687
i guess there are some evil bastard ones still around after all
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>>542210687
To be fair, she's more indigo than purple or blue
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>>542207409
>>542210687
Simply become colorblind like me, then all Alices look perfect!
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>>542211185
She is quite blue.
Like if you click the underside of the breast where the color is deepest for both
Alice is 152R 150G 225B
Apophis is 164R 135G 202B

Alice is basically pure Blue as the R+G are equal, the levels of R+G are affecting saturation and brightness at that point
While Apophis is purple because the Red is considerably higher than the Green
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>>542211778
That's more lavender colored.
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>>542211185
>>542211880
bluecucks btfo
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>>542211880
I think it's simply a case of everything around her skin that gives the impression her skin is more purple than it is.

Another side by side is Alice and Demon since Demon has a very similar color scheme and I doubt anyone would say she's not blue
Since Demon's breasts are lit differently, I opted to just go for the darker on the belly on both
Alice is 167R 166G 231B
Demon is 141R 151G 204B, a very similar ratio to both Alice samples
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>>542212456
anon you realize at this point we're specifying colors that are in-between/mixes of purple and blue right

we're just nitpicking the specifics but i'd still argue she's technically both
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>>542212456
It's lavender. In fact it's a darker shade of lavender.
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>>542212567
I do not compromise when I'm right.
Alice is equally GREEN as red in her samples, and last I checked no one considered Green to be in the digital Red+Blue spectrum
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>>542212664
>GREEN
horrid
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>>542212694
Nobody likes green!
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>>542212567
>>542212631
bluecuck btfo x2
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>>542212664
Ok, but sorry you're still wrong anon
All color is rendered on an RGB scale, it's irrelevant to single out the G part
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this is just the fucking dress again dammit mggg
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>>542211778
Humans perceive color differently, she looks purple to a lot of people.
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Maybe it's a good thing that I'm physically unable to comprehend a single part of this argument.
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>>542213782
Those people are simply blue-purple colorblind. It seems common. I am not.
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What is this weird Chris-chan ass argument? I don't get it.
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>>542213847
Someone was upset about my critique of bad Ilias fanart so I had some fun.
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>>542213831
Something like 1/6 men are colorblind iirc, although I suspect the vast majority of them are so lightly affected that it's practically impossible to notice. Monitor settings and stuff can also affect colors quite a bit, there are quite a few examples of massive fuck ups due to fucked up monitor settings.
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>>542213831
I'm sorry that you're unable to distinguish specific shades of color anon, but don't worry, you can rest assured that you're fuckin wrong
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>>542213958
I think you're confusing "upset" with "amused" anon
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>>542214093
I also feel like it's a thing where a lot of people get poorly educated on distinct colors as children and thus are also incapable of recognizing a proper distinction between blue and purple in particular.
It can come up with blue and greens too though. Just go ask a bunch of people what color Miku's hair is.
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>>542214315
Super Saiyan Eyes are also a thing, some see them as green others as blue.
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>>542214315
Blue? Green? Miku's hair is pretty clearly grey.
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>>542214440
Those are a great example.
I can't even rag on Ilias eyes anymore, 2 official artists for her variants went blue over teal.

One final example unrelated to anything is how Tifa is pretty much always black hair, despite the fact that her hair was brown on her models in the original, arguably a little lighter than Aeris. But she became so associated with the black in fanart that it bounced back to becoming official with all the 3D stuff.
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>>542213821
>>542214773
Pochi...
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>>542214830
Color can be based on style and colors artists prefer to use.
It sometimes isn't because they mistook the color, but that they may think a different variant of that color would work better for how they paint.
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>>542214830
What color is Miku's hair though? I see it as Green.
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>>542215076
Mint.
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>>542214830
I was gonna say something but I think >>542215062 put it pretty well

And believe you me anon as someone who cares so deeply about accuracy that I've sourced all of the colors and references on the chibi I've been creating from the in-game cg's of the girl in question, not everything is the same even between the same artist drawing the same character, sometimes a different color or slightly different hue can make all the difference in how vibrant or saturated or noticeable a particular detail is. Even in the original drawings of Ilias she has some different shades between her scenes and her cgs themselves; they're generally just slight changes in hue, but they're still present. But she looks fine in all of them.
Caring about deviating to the point of a girl looking off-model is reasonable, but as long as the colors are simply slight or minor changes in the shading, then there's not really anything wrong with that.

pic related has pretty much nothing to do with any of this at all, but I have a (probably larger than I would like to think it is) folder of old ilias images and memes that I never use anymore and that look on her face still kinda cracks me up inside.
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>>542215076
The official art I used as a reference had the Blue and Green RGBs as dead even. Kind of funny like that.

>>542216318
Honestly, in the original context, I was just annoyed that some shitty fuckin rando was like "DURRRR I DREW ILIAS" when all he did was draw a random yellow haired chick with wings,
It's like when westaboos draw Nagatoro as black and give her dreads and fat lips and shit.
It's like "No, you didn't draw the character and your art doesn't even have a superficial resemblance to the character and should be purged from the tags and put into the dumpster where it belongs".

It would obviously be less annoying if it looked decent and any nonzero amount of effort went into it, but it didn't so I roasted him and his defenders.
Ilias also canonically agrees with me.
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>>542210895
The image is a bit too small to appreciate the details, but I like how it looks.
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>>542212909
>green is not a creative color
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>>542157380
>>542137065
Okay, but why does this Ilias have snake eyes and six separate wings instead of a single pair with three layers of feathers.
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>>542222375
Careful, you'll trigger the autist defenders of shitty westaboos with their heads up their asses.
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>>542222375
>>542223892
>still nitpicking
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>>542223892
>maritan
>shitty westaboos with their heads up their asses
holy fuck, no wonder this place is a corpse of its former self
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>>542220809
You sound quite assblasted for people not agreeing with your shit opinions.
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>>542224261
Sue me for not liking how she looks in that drawing, but I just find it odd people started talking about the colors yet nobody brings up the wings and the pupils which are bigger changes.
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>>542225791
Nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking is not a valid argument. You're using shallow and pedantic details in artwork that other artists deviate from on a regular basis, likely as a excuse to show your dislike of the artist in particular without coming across as a whiny faggot. You've failed btw, you still come across as a whiny pedantic faggot.
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>>542225959
I haven't even said it's bad on a technical level. I just said I don't like the art. It's not that deep.
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>>542174245
>>542174425
Merfoxes...
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>>542226232
You've taken it beyond a simple "I just don't like it. It is not that deep" when you added lame criticism and shared it with everyone rather than keep it to yourself. Do you get this triggered when artists draw any character different from their official looks? Would an artist drawing alma with a ponytail and different colors cause you to get this pedantic? If one drew alice with huge breasts and a different hairstyle would you you once again sit there and continually lampshade the differences? You were just fine with a lot of other fanart deviating, so why do these in particular set you off so? Such inconsistency leads to little else but personal vendetta, terminal belligerence, and literal retardation.
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>>542227135
Ah, okay, sorry. I mistook your shitposting for serious anger. It's all good.
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>>542227515
Keep your thoughts to yourself next time, retard.
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>>542219916
Plot twist: it was a [Pleasure] attack.
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After ages, I have returned to this thread! Surely the non-MTL translation of Part 3's main story is mostly done by now, right...?
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>>542173584
There’s one way to stop fluff brain…
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>>542229082
Come back in something like 1.5 year.
No, I'm not joking.
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>>542230151
i see ears where tail
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Everything would have been okay if everyone only drew art of the objectively best angel.
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>>542202658
In death mage Kitsunes are considered non-monsters and as such they get access to the jobs system whereas Harpies are Vida's progeny which means they get access to both jobs and ranks(monsters get these). So they're true monster girls unlike those cosplaying Kitsunes with their fox ears and fluffy buttplugs.
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A certain human mage left behind the words, “If an elf truly falls in love with you, you will be dragged around for your whole life, so give up on them.”"
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>>542173584
>>542230151
Well...marrying a kitsune or pretty much any of the beast girls isn't so bad as they are one of the few monster girl races that get along humans and never actually fight against humans... hell even in MW humans and beastgirls are one of the few where they both live happy and safe unlike the shitty mermaids, elves or vampires etc who attacked human towns to take over them or kills humans
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How has no one thought to do this yet?
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>>542233659
The legendary Windrunner sisters...it is said that not even death will save you from them.
They find you. They will rape you. They will make you fall in love with them. One way or the other.
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>>542235149
It won't work unless the laws of the universe allows it. In that universe, succubi can't be beaten, no matter how much you try.
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>>542236542
>It won't work unless the laws of the universe allows it. In that universe, succubi can't be beaten, no matter how much you try.
weak writting extreamly pathetic infact literally mary sue level of bullshit
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>>542236542
>knife refuses to penetrate
>hacking and slashing does nothing
>bra gets cut
>tits flop out
>she eats us in her sleep
The player character deserves to die for this display of incompetence.
Maybe the true victory is just in washing Nemea's hair forever.
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>>542236542
I'll impregnate them.
That'll teach 'em.
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>>542237719
honestly they should have had them rape him in their sleep if he uses the knife on them. cuz it asserts a horrific level of power gap to the point that they are a threat when nude if asleep
to the point their instincts if stirred while alseep will overpower you and can kill you.

but nope no balls.baka cant even make the sleeping monsters stroink while alseep just no damage. thats it wearring a tophat.
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>>542237719
>washing Nemea's hair
>"So smooth... So silky... A-aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-!!"
>*cum*
>*die*
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>>542237719
>play
>play
>play
How the fuck did he lose to a child? What kind of supreme jobber MC is this?
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>>542237719
The real victory is getting sucked into oppai loli land for an entire game.

>>542242035
He's such a jobber that he couldn't even survive long enough to make it to the collab scenario.
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>>542239054
I'm starting a martial arts course dedicated to people who lose suspiciously often to succubi.
They're actually really easy to beat IRL. MC is just a uniquely weak person.
>>542239432
These positive experiences will build you up as a person.
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>>542242035
He is a "unwilling" participant to a robbery/rape party. You learn the guy is a giant scumbag the moment you start the game.
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>>542242035
The repeated choice implies mind control. Charm is a common trait of succubi.
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>>542242035
>threaten
>rock cd'd
>speak softly
>rock cd'd
>say nothing
>rock cd'd
>>542244001
He's only as much of a "scumbag" as the average coward.
>>542244124
I'm going to frame that in my mind as him successfully escaping from Myusca.
Myusca lost her meal to a weakling and a child, so she's the loser here.
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What would be your wifu's Steam nikname?
100% sure this cat would be
>Rapesalot
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>>542244709
It would either be some real life nick name or some variant of Doppel, and she would be apart of a steam group called Legion, that's exclusive for Doppels
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>>542244646
I like this girl.
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>>542244646
A coward that broke into a house knowing what his partners were going to do the moment he got them in. If the house wasn't the hang out for murderous succubi, he would have been complicate in the rape and murder of the innocent home owners who they thought were the occupants.
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>>542244709
mcdickkie,cum bucket, big pussy , x factor
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>>542247756
Good point.
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>>542247573
At least say the name. All I see is the colour of her clothes which makes me think of Nemea or Viconia.
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>bib
KNEELING
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>>542251248
The succubus that shows up when you use Nemea's hair to summon. I like her. Feels like "Shikibus prime".
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NTR with a fox girl is a world-threatening event! It will get your semi-popular manga that probably would have gotten an anime eventually axed. No Mao can overcome that.
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>>542252586
NTR as in the fox steals him away from a h*man woman, right?
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>>542256147
She still loves the antagonist.
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>>542256225
So just regular cuckshit? GTFO
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>>542256467
Readers agreed.
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>>542224261
>>542224713
>>542225791
>>542225959
>>542226232
>>542227135
>>542227515
>>542227615
Like I said >>542223892
>Careful, you'll trigger the autist defenders of shitty westaboos with their heads up their asses.
You're entirely write that the eyes are utterly wrong, the wings are even more wrong, that weird crown halo thing is randomly added too.
Also like I said
>>542220809
>It's like when westaboos draw Nagatoro as black and give her dreads and fat lips and shit.
>It's like "No, you didn't draw the character"
Explaining to that faggot that he got it wrong resulted in him melting down, leaving, and still posting his trash with bad tags.
It also seems to result in idiots like that defender doing nothing but shitposting that you're not allowed to criticize shitty "fan" art.
I almost wish albert would return just to make that idiot shitposter get roasted for defending such trash "art".

Ironically, even albert's shit was more on-model.
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>>542256225
She gets punished right? The MC doesn't tolerate this shit right?
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>>542256503
I guess it was a case of suddenly cuckshit in an otherwise non-cuck story. You either go full cuck and appeal to the
>unnnghhh yes Tyrone fuck my waifu while I stroke my inferior tiny white dick fapfapfap
crowd, or you don't include fucking cuckshit at all. I don't want liquid shit frosting on my ice cream.
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>>542256690
They backtracked and she won.
But the damage was done.

It was too believable given her demeanor that she actually saw the MC as more of a student and her heart was still with the antagonist who had hatched a big plan to murder her (which the MC completely routed in a badass fashion with his own plan and then saved her from dying of depleted lifeforce on top of that).
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>>542256663
NTA, but did the artist really leave when they posted once in a blue moon or are we just assuming we chased them off?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch/p20v4M-6i-E
don't use the N-word, keep that shit outta here
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>>542257990
>and then saved her from dying
Boo, cheaters deserve death.
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>>542259297
>Boo, cheaters deserve death.
TRTR said no, that would be against coexistence
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>>542260036
TrTr has a point.
Luka would be the first cheater to die, and we can't have a game without him.
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>>542259297
She hadn't given the "I'm sorry, I love the antagonist" speech yet.

But she knew what was up when she joined him, didn't set the boundary, used it, and remained flirty. She could have said "no" and tried to stick him with one of the other girls. So it's not like he decided it in a one-sided fashion.
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>>542260036
Meia is the only named girl off the top of my head who is a flagrant homewrecker in this series.
>>542261419
You're just convincing me the manga deserved its cancellation so I'm not sure what your goal here is, to try and justify why it shouldn't have been?
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>>542261861
Luka can cuck multiple guys, and cheat on his wife. He is a NTR monster.
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>>541745025
What happened to the bin?
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>>542265963
The shikis sent it to heaven.
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>>542234073
>kitsunes are safe for humans, so marrying them isn’t so bad
>mermaid and elves are bad
Well, well, well. Fluffy tail fixes everything
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>>541853695
Considering Nero grew up with foxes. Shocked he hasn’t fallen for one.
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>>542234073
Hey let's be fair to the vampires, they avoided killing unnecessarily and just wanted to be in charge. They believed in the concept of noblesse oblige so it's not like them being in charge would've been super terrible either. It's why Sabasa turns around to accepting the vampires pretty quickly when they come back to run a bar.
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There's 2 foxes threads on /v/ right now.
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>>542234073
The elves were being mind warped by the plants because of the machinations of a super evil snake monster, that is actually a dragon.
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>>542258726
They're still around and laughing at idiots like >>542256663
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Humans and elves were not categorized as beastfolks because they had completely shed their animal features like fangs, tails, and horns.
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>>542271501
Current humans and uncorrupted elves are not monsters, they are closer to their Alf ancestors, who were not affiliated with Ilias or Fat Alice.
Dark Elves are monsters do to absorbing dark energy, and the OG humans might have been closer to angels since they seem to have had holy juice infused in them.
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look all I'm saying is the fact that frfr decided to give Ilias three more distinctly individual pairs of wings in the much more recent cut-in he drew for her in Part 3 has now become incredibly funny to me in hindsight.
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>>542272095
Ilias really should have gotten a new sprite like Alice after getting her power back. It's weird how much FrFr was so involved in Paradox, but he was left mostly in the BFer dungeon. It was a waste of talent.
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>>542258726
it's a pretty big assumption; I highly doubt he actually got chased off, he probably just left on his own eventually like 90%~ of the drawfags did.
>>542256663
Not any of those anons, you just seem to be oddly fixated on this and I really don't get why.
The one of her cradling the soul of the anon has only one mild deviation, which is just the proportions of her circlet are a little exaggerated, but bar that it's pretty much completely spot on with regards to accuracy.
The other one of her I commonly see posted around I'd agree looks more like a different design than it does Ilias at that point, due to the six wings when combined with the exaggerated circlet, but I still don't really think either of the two are in any way comparable to turning Nagatoro (tan-skinned japanese highschooler) into a caricature of an african stereotype at all.
>albert was more accurate
........I mean, depending on what he was tracing over that day I guess you're technically right
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>>542272506
You're telling me! I mean, >>542231913 is right!
frfr should've drawn more Harpies, and also more art of one angelic and beautiful and cute Harpy in particular!
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>>542273375
His obsession with nitpicking is especially funny because a lot of the traits he's complaining about were shared by Megami Ilias in part 3.
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NOOOOOOO
YOU WON'T STEAL MY VIRGINITY
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>542273936
FrFr did draw a new harpy though? Which would be Tsubasa. You probably don't remember her, because she was a inferior harpy unit than Reina, who did everything far better than her.
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>>542275049
you dare suggest I don't remember Tsubasa and Kris?
I know Kris was not drawn by frfr, but the two are childhood friends! Reina even befriends Tsubasa and tries to help her get used to living around people! I have the two on the Harpy Team still, yeah. I don't deny I didn't use Tsubasa (or Kris) much until the final dungeon, but I'm pretty fond of the two of them.

Also while undeniably My Wife >>>>>>>>>> everyone else Tsubasa does look quite nice. You can really see just how far frfr's come.
Essentially Tsubasa is part of the reason why I would've liked for frfr to have drawn more Harpies. He gave us one, which was her, but still, I wish he had drawn more!
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>>542231913
I agree.
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Bee puke is tasty.
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>>542281410
I have a gross fetish for deep makeout sessions with bee girls while they feed me honey from the source.
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>>542275759
Is a harpy a harpy if she can't fly? Is an ostrich girl a harpy? A chicken?
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>>542282042
Yes
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>>542282042
How could you forget Miu?
>Ostrich Girls are harpy athletes!
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>>542265963
deded, new one is https://mggcollection.neocities.org/list
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>>542204582
I can't wait to show off my ballroom dancing skills to my harpy wife!
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>>542282042
>is a flightless bird girl still a bird girl?
Of course! And I'd have that chunni ostritch no other way.
'Harpy' is just the species name here, like 'bird' is just a general descriptor for all birds.
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>>542258746
>we got n-word 2 before GTA 6
kek
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>>542204875
>for no reason
Most of the races in that setting are descended from a Prostitute goddess(Goddess of Love and Life).
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>>542286794
Being descended from a prostitute doesn't automatically make you a slut.
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>>542287473
She's a goddess + encourages competition because it makes species evolve faster, new life etc, the world is a shithole where every ethnic group is constantly at war with monsters and other races and basically everyone is teethering on the edge of destruction so sexual moral are loose, everyone is just focused on breeding with little to no regard to quality because it's required. This later shifts as populations stabilize as their priorities shift from fucking everything to putting more thought into choosing partners.
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>>542287473
Your harpy wife might have a lot of husbands, but on the bright side, you also have a lot of harpy wives!
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>>542244646
escaping just buys him a few months at best btw cuz apparently myusca is a spiteful cunt
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>>542289112
>This later shifts as populations stabilize as their priorities shift from fucking everything to putting more thought into choosing partners.
Not in the series it doesn't, they're all still sluts with no faithfulness. Anyway, why are you bothering to defend it? My point is just that the author has a fetish for sluts and hates monogamy because he wrote it into every single one of his races.
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Hapy Migratory Bird Day!
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>>542293075
So you shouldn't waifu anything that isn't a human in this series? Or are they also promiscuous whores?
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>>542282042
GET OUT OF MY TREE
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>>542294412
Elves and dwarves are fine too iirc, but any monster girl is right out.
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>>542282042
take the feathers off this monstergirl chicken and she is a man
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>>542296730
Would Diogenes live in Pornof?
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>>542293075
It does though, it's explicitly stated the ghouls had one giant orgy to explode the population and now they look for a hubby to settle with. To get the rights to a harem you have to be insanely strong as a man as well so Van created an incel generation inadvertendly.
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>>542296794
No, he would live in the slums.
Pornoff is still a den of human greed and hubris, even if it is the trash bin of fetish addicts.
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>>542296794
Diogenes would be adbucted by a monster girl after trying to masturbate in public.

Just replace his later life as a slave servant to a family as a slave husband.
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>>542298267
Anon, all the 'marriages' among Vida's races are not faithful relationships. It's a temporary breeding contract. Either you dedicate yourselves to each other for ten years to raise a child then split up, or it's that AND you and her are both 'married' to several different people at once so it's really just free love fucking. There is no dedicated romantic love among them.
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what did we learn, class?
we don't fall for random WN slop just because it has generic monstergirls in it
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>>542299847
To be fair, it's not like there's any better non-cosplay monster girl content as far as LNs or WNs go, at least nothing I'm personally aware of.
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>>542300753
It's probably better to avoid any series where infidelity is a constant plot and lore element like this one, monster girls or not.
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>>542298267
>and now they look for a hubby to settle with
*force to raise another man's child, which is the definition of cuckoldry.
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>>542300869
Yeah, you're probably right. I don't really care if my fictional waifu's a bit of a slut, but going out of their way to raise children with as many men as possible is a bit much even for me.
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>>542281538
Deep makeout sessions with cute girls is an underrated fetish in general.
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>>542301901
this shit is only hot when you are a crazy madlad tryna make some form of hybrid monstergirls but that requires the setting to have rare monsterboys to kidnap and have the monstergirls rape an example would be making a wolf girl with a fox girl's fluffiness.

eventually resulting in you selectively breeding the perfect waifu that you fuck not them only you get this one.
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>>542303993
beeba
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>Herocruz: I will become the ultimate being and transcend worlds
>Hollowcruz: GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FUCKING LOVE HALLOWEEEEEEEEEEEN
I love this boss
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>>542302246
>fetish
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>>542299635
Yes, retard. Same thing the races in setting do to stave off extinction.
>>542300869
It's not.
>>542301561
Just like human women.
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>>542312610
Anon, just repeating "they did it to stave off extinction" at me doesn't change how ALL of Vida's races act. You can justify it all you like, but the problem is that the behavior itself is unappealing. As for your specific example (the Ghouls) that ONLY applies to the Ghouls (doesn't solve the issue with how Harpies, Scylla, etc. act) and ONLY with the ones Van rules, they're the only ones who started getting interested in human marriage because it was specifically introduced to them to try and help them integrate with human refugees. However, they don't ACTUALLY understand monogamy (Van's two Ghoul sluts specifically are okay with fucking other men behind his back, not that he personally cares about them romantically) and like the other post pointed out, these girls are trying to nab marriages after having a different man's child, which is fucked up.
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>>542300753
maybe you should avoid LNs and WNs completely then
>the selection at the market is the same as always, it's boring
>for a change of pace, I'm going to head into the dumpster and eat garbage
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>>542313201
You did not read the novel. You read a bunch of shitposters posts which you're regurgitating right now straight from the anus of /a/.
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>>542316984
Literally everything I said is true. Perhaps I'm phrasing it in an uncharitable way (like you might think my stance against a woman having a prior child before she marries you is harsh, or you missed that I acknowledged that Van doesn't see those girls as romantic interests like they do him) but it's all actual factual lore we hear about in the story, or events that occur over its course.
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>>542308830
By "fetish" I specifically mean a fixation with it, not just thinking it's pretty neat.
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>>542317705
It changes as their population increases. This is the exact same thing which can be observed in human populations, tribals don't have the concept of marriage or guarding a mate, women just fuck and give birth. Humans are the exact same, marriage didn't exist before some ancient chad needed to promice pussy in exchange for building a city to some betabucks. You can loathe it but your circumstances determine your morality and values, people who can't kill don't survive in wars etc etc.
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>>542318371
I don't need to hear you trying to justify or excuse it. My points are that, one, I'm not lying, what I'm saying is true, and you can't deny that. And two, it's off-putting behavior. You can claim that's how humans work (and whether I agree or not, that's not something I'm here to argue with you) but the point is just that it's unappealing and makes them unlikable in a romantic sense, especially for this community of monster girl fuckers/waifu hunters. This series has serious problems with all the monster girls being sluts that don't understand monogamy or marriage, which is true. Whether or not you think it'll improve in the future for the Ghouls (probably) or Vida's races in general (actually doubtful, races like the Scylla had lived near friendly humans for ages and never got better) is beside the point that it's not how they operate NOW, at the time it is in the story. In that timeframe, it's as I said, none of them get faithfulness or romance on a racial/cultural level.
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>>542318808
It not about you agreeing or disagreeing with it. It's facts, go ahead and disagree with some physical law and see how it goes. In MGQ you can count the virgins on your fingers, your "waifu" is likely a massive slut. All I get from your comments are "FEELINGS FEELINGS FEELING" you're like a fucking woman.
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This is sounding more and more like someone who's just into being a cuck and is insecure or defensive about it
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>>542313663
That's more or less exactly what I do, although I don't really read many text-only stories at all nowadays. I'm sure some legitimately good LNs come out every once in a while though, not that I'd know where in the garbage dump they are.
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>>542319528
>it's fact
the fact is you're wrong, cope faggot
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>>542320193
If I were wrong human women wouldn't be evil.
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>>542320345
.....i'm beginning to think you might have other problems here, anon
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>>542319528
Honestly, while I can kind of sympathize with the idea that some people are probably a little too sensitive to anything that seems like NTR involving their fictional waifus, I think you're missing the point here.

I don't think anyone is arguing that it doesn't make sense in context, a lot of people here just don't like that most of the monster girls are having a lot of kids with a lot of men. If I hear about a series with monster boys, I'm not gonna be too interested in it no matter how much it makes sense that they're monster boys instead of monster girls in the lore.
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>>542319528
>It's facts
Like what I said about Vida's races?
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>>542320621
>a lot of people here just don't like that most of the monster girls are having a lot of kids with a lot of men.
The point is, as their population increases they do adopt more of a modern mentality with marriages and all that so if you want a waifu of X race she can be faithful to you. Anon seems to have dropped the novel before Van created the conditions for said morality to exist, I mean previously you were working with populations in the 100s, 1000s if you were lucky. Fidelity and such are merely luxury beliefs when your population is that low and you're fully focused on just survival at all costs. It's a more realistic and darker isekai than most for sure.
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>>542320597
I am 100% fine.
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>>542321242
I specifically mentioned when Van had the Ghouls tutored in human concepts of marriage (when the Hartner refugees arrive) and how they were starting to understand it. You're ignoring that, and how I'm building points on top of that. Like how they're still new to and struggle to get it (they simply see it as a child-rearing contract, which is similar to how the Scylla's temporary marriages work) or how other members of Vida's races (like the Scylla and Harpies I specifically mentioned, I'm not being vague) are aware of how human marriages work but choose to not abide by that standard and instead act slutty. I also acknowledged that the Ghouls will probably improve culturally in the future. However, what I'm saying is that they currently aren't there yet, and that Vida's races in general do not act that way now. Currently. In the story as it is. None of them have adopted lifelong monogamous relationships like humans practice, so it's unappealing, and there's no indication they will in the future even if you can theorize they might (though I don't see why you think any race other than Ghouls might with what we see in the story.)
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>>542322045
>they simply see it as a child-rearing contract
That's what marriages are for. They're for the children, not for you. Men get lured with the prospects of pussy, women get lured with the prospects of resources etc.
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>>542321242
Do you think the author will actually make them more monogamous or at least more interested in a more conventional romance later in the story?
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>>542322270
Can you set aside your view on real-life gender politics for a moment and recognize we are talking about a specific fictional setting (Death Mage) in the context of fictional species (monstergirls) in the wider context of the perspective of a monstergirl fetishist thread?
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>>542322554
He kind of already has, the only species shown in the settings to practice monogamy to some extent are species that have enough populations for cities to form. Even then, Polygamy is not going away in the world due to how massive individual power differences can be.
>>542322576
Yes, a fictional setting that's written with a degree of realism. Even the specific magical attributes themselves have the element of manipulating the very physical laws of setting moreso than being just soft magical elements. I think some people react negatively to it because they're used to just turning off their brain and expect it to be a hugbox setting but that's not what Death Mage is.
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>>542323092
People are reacting negatively to it because monstergirls that commit infidelity are not likable, that was the original reason players hated Meia back in the VN days, not her shota thing. You haven't even addressed most of what I said in >>542322045
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>>542323924
No, people react negatively because they expect a hugbox but instead get the complete opposite with the skin torn off and the flesh exposed of what the reality of a tribal, on the verge of extinction species looks like. Death Mage does not romanticize anything and I love the setting for it.
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>>542261861
My point is that cuckshit is a niche that's repulsive to everyone who isn't a cuck and >>542257209 is right.

I just brought it up because it's a case of a monster girl manga (most of the girls are monster girls) that I was invested in that got cancelled because of an NTR storyline.
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>>542324141
Anon, it's not reasonable to equate "doesn't want girls to cheat on them" with "wants a hugbox." These are not the same thing. You also didn't respond to the points I made, again.
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>>542324141
>people react negatively because they expect a hugbox
either you're a tremendous newfag or you've somehow forgotten how half the spergouts around MGE go, but either way the setting and story just sound mediocre and generic as hell
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>>542324302
I didn't say that, what I'm saying is that Death Mage is written with a degree of realism in the setting. I get that isn't what everyone wants but NTR does not happen in the series. The chief offender that people like to point out is Basdia which Vandalieu helped with delivering a baby before she was even a harem member. I don't like used goods either but none of Van's official harem cheats on him, there are used goods in it as well as pvre virginal waifus but not one of them goes out of her way to have sex with other men after she's officially part of the harem. Even the fucking prostitute only gives advice to some other prostitute and doesn't fuck others which is kind of a stretch in logic.
>>542324539
I know about Enslaved.
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>>542324993
>I know about Enslaved
then you should know better anon
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>>542324993
Well my point was never that his women NTR him in any way (though I did touch on how relatively early on the two main Ghoul girls were fine with the idea of having sex with other men before Van got old enough to do it, but that was, yes, far before he had a 'harem' and before he had Ghouls adopt marriage) but how the races in general behave. Because anons were reacting negatively to how the harpy SPECIES acts in Death Mage, I brought up how it was a general problem/feature with all of Vida's races. You started arguing with me, so I mentioned how the Ghouls and Scylla also have this problem AS A SPECIES.
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>>542322270
dont modern women want to make more money than men, shouldnt they be trying to make advances and luring men now.. yet dont
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>>542326126
>also have this problem AS A SPECIES
Yes, and I elaborated that humans also have this issue as a species with sexual norms only changing when the enviorment itself changed(cities and their power leveraged to enforce their norms on the surrounding settlements). People who are fiercely monogamous are less likely to pass on their genes to the next generations in such an enviorment so they have both cultiral and enviormental pressures.
>>542326209
Women are attracted to masculinity, which means being healthy(good looking) and violent(full of energy and capable of protecting). Just look at the kind of romance novels/smut they're wilding over or what kind of men they say they don't like but constantly fall over.
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>>542326883
And I kept trying to intimate to you that I'm not interested in debating human nature, but rather that regardless of how you see that, the PRESENT STATE of Vida's races in Death Mage are why people are put off by and think negatively towards them in this thread. I even agreed that yes, it's starting to (only just starting) to change with the Ghouls because of Van trying to integrate them with humans. It's just that you seem to think people shouldn't be allowed to dislike how monstergirls are depicted in this series because you think it's realistic, when that's just not how people's tastes work.
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>>542326883
You should know that not everyone agrees with your beliefs on what human nature is.
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>>542327245
No, debating human nature and biological reality to an extent is integral to understanding the crux of why the races are as they are, not that their ENTIRE SPECIES is somehow EVIL and GAY.
>seem to think people shouldn't be allowed to dislike how monstergirls are depicted in this series because you think it's realistic, when that's just not how people's tastes work.
I didn't say you can't dislike it, I myself hate cuckoldry and I did elaborate on why people dislike it as well I just don't think you should critique a setting for not being what you wish it to be. It's a fictional work with a degree of realism, and people don't like the realism part of it. Critiquing a Vase for being a Vase is a fruitless and stupid endeavor is what I'm saying.
>>542327676
It's not about agreement or belief, this is proven.
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>>542327876
now look who doesn't understand human nature, lmao
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>>542327876
>No, debating human nature and biological reality to an extent is integral
Then we're at an impasse, because I'm not doing that with you on /vg/. So all that's left is the original assertion: the author probably has a thing for sluts and anons won't like how all the monstergirls are unfaithful and should avoid the series if that's something that bothers them.
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>>542328327
They're in fact faithful if regimented well, way more than what you'd expect from h*man women anyway.
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I think this thread has been way more interesting today than in the last few years. Debating over monster girls and settings regardless of feelings to arrive to truths is way more interesting and important compared to some anon tossing a temper tantrum(like the Sequel Map Autist) because his feelings got hurt. Ironically enough if this threat wishes to stifle any discussion that doesn't outright pander to the sensitivities of little anon it is in fact what the definition of a hugbox is. I wonder how enslaved would feel about this.
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>>542328949
you're not entirely wrong, but you worded that kind of pretentiously desu
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never played the OG VN, and it seems to not be on Nyaa so
where do I get it nowadays?
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>>542329263
I'm an angelchad, I can't help but speak in a higher language the peasants find "pretentious".
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>>542329880
Huh, I didn't realize the link in the pastebin doesn't work until just now. You can get it from f95zone.
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>>542329880
>>542330685
Oh, and it's also in the bin, the name's shortened to MGQ so I missed it when I checked
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either I've made her too wriggly or my fear and aversion of tentacles is coming back from this.
or both.
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The deeper you dive into a fandom, the more deranged and infantile people become. There's nothing to stop them and no one to tell them that they're going insane.
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>>542293768
No matter how far away she might be, never forget that your harpy wife will always love you! Science proves it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HvR70QFreY
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>>542334994
Why are humans so lewd?
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>>542335951
Evolved hidden estrus cycles to encourage the need for constant mating, which by proxy encourages pair bonding with the mate. The reason for encouraging pair bonding being to encourage both partners to stay together for child rearing. So humans are lewd because it makes them better parents.
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>>542334994
>birds found faces which humans found attractive to be attractive and ignored ugly face
I didn't need this brutal inter-species blackpill.
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>>542331309
yeah but the mega link is dead and so are the nyaa and pirate bay links
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>>542337129
Not the pastebin, this bin >>542282904
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>>542336262
ok but this also means its likely for any cuckoo harpy that finds a human pair attractive enough to just plop their children among them and will be forced to take care of the harpy else they be torn asunder by the cuckoo army.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCTG3cNRptY
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I'm indifferent to earlier themes, but I love how these themes evolve back-to-back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB6K6nkvCtc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUEWhlxFwsk

The most easily overlooked but dangerous enemy!
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>>542333823
What did you expect from group of lonely people rejecting real females and immersing themselves in fantasy of imaginary monster women. Best course of action is to embrace it.
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rBbtXs5zLbM
>ilias in yt shorts
Damn...
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>>542328949
>pointless debates over cuckshit and schizo shitting on one of the few artists that visited this place in the last few years
>interesting
Then again, you mentioning both muh sequel drama and /tg/ shitposter just gives you away as the cancer that killed mggg
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>>542344736
Someday I'll be delusional enough to manifest my monster girl wife into my very own version of reality!
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>>542344736
waiter these monster women are more woman than monster they called me a fuckin bitch and divorced me.
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But what if the angels were the good guys? The entire faction.[/spoilers]
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>>542347746
That's illegal. You can't have Lucifer expy and have everyone be right. It's one of the other.
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A reminder that your monster girl wife (probably) doesn't go through menopause.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdAz3XpE6mo
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>>542345557
That should motivate you to become stronger.
We need a MGQ Mahjong fangame.
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>>542345557
Anon you didn't marry a kitsune, you got bamboozled into marrying a cosplaying h*man thot. Enjoy losing half of your shit and god help you if you made a kid.
Next time give the tail a firm tug first to verify.
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>>542350340
>haha just pull the tail to see if it's just a human-
Another fox trick....
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>>542350340
I don't know what's more baffling, that you posted a human, or that the human is cosplaying a male character who had a female version.
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Any suggestions on which monster girl commission to send to this animator?
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/15653493
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>>542350531
>try to pull on tail
>touch fluff
>"Aaaahhh... So smooth... So silky..."
>cum
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>>542351075
Melk
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Please wait warmly
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>>542345282
You ate that food. Consider that fact when you open that door.
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>>542349123
cute
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>>542350340
doesnt tugging on the tail hard enough turn em into a fox though? but no it wasnt a kitsune it was in fact a fae that divorced me... im in shit.
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>>542341001
monstergirls should force human couples to raise their children as it would promote coexistence no i dont care if it ends up taking over the household and raping the parents because even young monsters are stronger than adult humans
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Why is this monster kid looking at me like that?
I don't have any cand



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